>Demo days Next: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-67Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-66>AGDG resources https://hackmd.io/SNd2YQugRG-36CLYc8Og2w>Helpful links New Threads: >>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/>How to WebM https://obsproject.comhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter>Previous Thread>>554723542
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>>554818513What do we honestly think of this hobby going forward in 2026?
>>554818917Gabencunt killed it.
>>554818513i checked void war's r*ddit to see how they are taking the fact the game got removed from steam and they seem to be supporting the game and crying about itproof that AI assets do not matter if people wanna play it
>>554819253Wow who would've thought
>>554819253also forgot to say but the dev is russian if that matters
>>554818917geam?
>>554819253>>554819398I still don't understand why you single out this game in particular, out of numerous other ones on Steam with undisclosed AI usage.
>>554819497He seethes about any game that makes more money than his does (which is all of them).
>>554819497give me names ill investigate, this one is outrageous because hes literally copying FTL which is smart since the FTL devs said they moved on and wont make a sequel but also hes copying the 40k universe too, it feels like the game idea itself was given to him by AI, probably looking at games where people want a sequel and added in the warhammer stuff
>the other thread got deleted
this thread
>>554819687>looking at games where people want a sequel and added in the warhammer stuff
Oop! Sounds like someone forgot a part of the OP. I'll fix that for ya. >/v/3's Jamhttps://itch.io/jam/v3jamSurely it wasn't removed out of an obsession for /v/3. Couldn't be. Not like the schizo was in the thread right up until a new one was made.
Great artists steal.
>>554819687>give me names ill investigateYou can probably find a bunch by browsing the latest releases. I don't mean highest grossing but literally everything that released today.I would imagine any game with an undisclosed usage of AI that's still up probably doesn't have more than 500 reviews, but thanks to how gabencunt set up Steam, good luck finding every game that didn't reach 500 reviews from 2024 for example.
>>554819939people wouldnt antagonize you if you didnt antagonize the thread, not that complicated just chill and i hope v3 becomes a nice community event, just stop shitposting dude
>>554820040I'm curious where /agdg/ thinks the line is between referencing works that influence your writing/design process and out-and-out stealing.
>>554820212It's all free real estate.
>>554820193The funny thing is, I really don't shitpost here as much as some anons would like you to think. I lurk most of the time.
buying laser scanned environments from eastern europe to populate your ue5 slop game is better than generating a few portraits in your pixelshit
>>554819253I think the other guy lied and it was Games Workshop being overtly annoying again that resulted in this.
This thread is for truedevs only
Gabencunt did this.
>>554819939Get over yourself my guy
>2005>be me>absolutely 0 chance to get and dev/computer related jobs in my city>2026>"people back then had it so much easier"i never understood this.
>>554820770they referenced the pre->during covid boom and timed it just right
>>554820420>laser scanned environmentsSoulless imo.The Max Payne approach of stretching obvious photo textures over low/mid poly meshes is better both practically and aesthetically.
>>554820212the line is at litigation
>>554820680It was Gabe who made me grab a free key for this and never even bother to installed it.
>>554820212Where indeed?
I'm making so much progress
>>554820921holy based
>>554820909Speaking of which, has there even been a single /agdg/ game made in this style over the years?
>>554820212There is no line, morality is decided by popularity. If your game is popular it has cool references, if it's unpopular it's derivative. If your idea is unoriginal but popular it 'popularized' the idea, if it's unoriginal and unpopular it's slop. If a popular game steals ideas it's called borrowing and if it's unpopular it's called stealing.
>>554820571Proof?
>>554820212I've found that i gradually change things to be different so I just steal at the beginning and by the end i've created something unique out of my own interests/limitations.
>>554821554This anon gets it.
>>554820212I used an AAA game as reference. Im paranoid the similarities may be too high even if its not a 1 to 1 copy
>>554819497It was one of the first big indie games to very blatantly dodge the AI disclosure back when the disclosure was still new. No doubt a sign of things to come since now many games don't disclose.
>>554821654>>554820571okay if one of you is kannadev, who is the other one?
>>554819939Ill take squilchan, shadowchans face is just buttugly in this one lol>>554820680Sales like this are just way too low for me to continue development
>>554818513you forgot>>/v/3's Jam>https://itch.io/jam/v3jam>>>/wsg/6077799
>>554824121None of them are
>>554824559
>>554820212toby fox stole from homestuck.Notch stole from infiminer.Eric stole from harvest moon.Vampire survivor dev also stole his idea.Flappy bird stole his idea from a flash game.Peglin dev also stole his idea from a game from candy crush devs.
>>554825362And I will steal from all of them, to create the ultimate video game
>streamer Lacari banned for loliIs Lacari the archetypical /agdg/ poster? African, incompetent, pedophile and degenerate?
>>554824121You don't want to know.
>>554821654>>554824559>>554824698Hello Afros.>>554825467
>>554825631
>>554825467Lacari is funny tho. And bald.
>>554826032>>554825631
>>554825918>JewestOne
Curious how you never hear cries about "ecelebs" when the zoomers start off-topic chatting about literal who non-gamedev ecelebs.
>>554826212I didn't even notice that. FFS.
>when your elf game doesn't sell
>>554825467I don't know who that is. I only watch Vinny, Joel and Cybershell.
>>554825467>loliIt was 3d. He's fucked
>>554827254it will sell if he adds sex
>>554827254Why do people still act surprised about this stuff? Every single one of his viewers have loli and its plastered all over his stream, he has multiple anime figures, etc. Like gee, you think?
game dev?
>>554825362from which game will you steal?
>>554829239It's actually a big deal because reddit is freaking out saying its because gacha ruined his life, porn addiction is real, anyone openly liking loli should be investigated, etc etc. SO fuckin glad I'm not making an anime game.
>>554829239
>>554829841>reddit
>>554829887lacari please stop
>>554829841>Lacari is the Peter Dinklage of lolicons
>>554829887'risu...
Thread got quiet. Y'all are fucking spooked kek.
>AI CEOs are begging people to use AI and stop calling it slop>Altman in 2024 said ads in chatgpt would their last resort to make money, now it has ads>OpenAI chair just said AI is probably a bubbleAI chads...
Sometimes I see games with just outright terrible art and then.....several hundreds or even thousands of reviews. I think I know what kind of games I can make that get away with art that looks like a child drew it or get away with an artstyle that may be simple but still works for the type of game it is. However a lot of these games aren't exactly small <1 year development cycle games, maybe 2 years with the kind of content they have. It gets to the point that I may as well consider bigger games like 3-4 year dev cycles and just slap in low quality art because those at least end up in a weird spot of either being thousands of reviews or flopping hard and getting like 100-200 reviews. In fact 2 of them that go with very simple artstyles beat me to the punch on one specific idea I had, neither is done and one has clearly gotten into development hell.Is this it? Is this how I simply settle with my terrible art skills by making games that can do well despite the art?
>>554831786what?
seriously though kanna don't forget to remove ur .txt files from ur game release
>>554832145Good. I need pc parts to drop in price. How am I supposed to even get a laptop to dev on? Especially since I eventually want to retry my hand multiplayer development. I got yet another GMI idea that relies on multiplayer (not a slop tier idea btw). It's the kind of multiplayer game I like but it will probably be a game that gets 5k reviews instead of 100k like slop can easily achieve. But 5k reviews is enough for me to throw in the towel on waging and go full time solodev or just hire a team and basically be like Kojima.
My game just uses dice rolls for everything. Why think?
>>554832215you're circling around the issue like there's 2 axes but instead I'd recommend thinking of it in terms how many times you have to sell the game before someone plays it. That's to say if the game is one thing but it looks like another, that's really an unnecessary sell. When you have a unified vision that runs through the game where everything is just self evident and clicks from the start that's where you can "get away" with having on paper low quality assets or gameplay. A bad idea for example would be to make a ragegame/streamerslop that looked like a modern AAA title, by creating an assetflip you are helping people who look for that type of game to find it faster.
Ugh, fine. I will dev for a lil bit.
>>554832837mine's coinflips, kinda like a big if statement.
Sometimes I see games that are like mine but just have so much more content and better art and they flopped. Makes me discouraged, has this happened to (you) guys?
>>554833542No.
>>554832898>terms how many times you have to sell the game before someone plays it. That's to say if the game is one thing but it looks like another, that's really an unnecessary sell.I'm confused, what do you mean by this part.But yeah a unified vision makes sense a lot of the games I mentioned seem to have that just from looking at them. The art is very lackluster but it all just clicks for the kind of game it is supposed to be.
>>554833542Yeah. I read the negative reviews closely for those
>>554829239we gave up
>>554834556Work on your game NOW!
>>554834047Easy exampleI make a RPG with a diverse castI put the gayest and blackest character I can think of as mascot of the game90% of my characters are normal and what you would expect from an RPGMy game is now signalling that my RPG is gay and diverseIt can work in a similar fashion for artstyles, take Battle Brothers and Soulash 2, both have characters represented by a round head like a discord pfp. When I want to buy and start the game, the game must first try and sell me the idea that I'm not playing a head, I'm playing a character and it's worth going against my initial gut reaction
>>554833542You should be discouraged. You are literally making [existing game, but worse in every way], and you're never going to make it with that. Go to https://games-stats.com, find your most relevant tag(s), and go flip through the games around your targeted "make it" revenue. If you can't make a game of approximately that quality, then you're flat out NGMI.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCzhyUsDHPE
https://vocaroo.com/11bzlHqvxIOUreckon this hits the gran turismo vibe i was going for?
>>554818917Don't spend money unless you're getting paid via patreon?
You have to spend money to make money.
>>554835517What if I have no money to spend to make money?
>>554834771>marketing is not the problembuy an ad
!!!TRVKE ALERT!!!AI is a win, but only for the idea guys. Do you have amazing ideas, but can't code for shit? You will soon be able to make fun games. Do you have shit ideas, but you're a great coder? Your games will still be shit!!!!TRVKE DELIVERED!!!!!
>>554832465bro thinks he can demoralize kanna
>>554835594get a job
>>554835594You fucked up. That's your own fault. You had to have squandered every opportunity and your family's goodwill to get to that point.
>>554835881>You will soon be able to make fun games.theme song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbPP_bb585E
>>554836190that's it, incel. I'm vibe coding my way to a box of steam chocolates just to dab on you
I bought another Claude account sigh
>>554835517I've decided to spend 4 dollars a month, is that enough to make money?
>>554834771No games with my tag combo
>it works
>>554834771>oh man can't wait for him to tell me the formula>just make pretty game>ok>first game is pretty walking sim>I mean I guess>next game looks like a flash game walking sim>"I don't know why all these games are successful despite implying I did"damn what a video>>554837093same
Investing into the current pipeline will be good. I just have to get some more art for one thing which I can do tomorrow, then it will be all setup to go
should i psot progress to here?
>>554837852I can't help but imagine anime posters as bald and black now
i relapsed again...
>>554838206>>just make pretty gameI don't remember he saying that, but it's like when anons here say to make a good game. GMIdevs just know what a "good game" is, while NGMIggers seethe at the notion that there is such a thing. If you don't know, then you simply don't have the vision, and you're not going to make a good game.
>>554839690agreed, I don't understand making game you don't think will make it
>>554839587I have long hair thougheverbeit.
Slow nigga hours
>>554840445gotta scrub some hard drives
cris how much hair do u have left for research purposes
>>554840823As much as I want to generate
~demo daynumber 3on agd g~
>>554840997cris isn't real?! shit it all makes sense now. no man could be that retarded in reality
finally upgrading my shit monitor for a better one. time for some l33t devving...when it arrives in two days
>>554820909That gun actually looks excellent for the time. No way that's actually an ingame shot.>>554821436Too much effort.
>>554839656
>>554839339no.
I have to implement a status effect system and unify my sources of increased damage, cooldowns, etc.Please wish me luck!
>>554841698good luck anon! you can do it!
>>554819939>Surely it wasn't removed out of an obsession for /v/3. Couldn't be. Not like the schizo was in the thread right up until a new one was made.See when you bait schizos to gather around v3 like this it puts everyone at risk of getting pulled into a mess, I know you don't understand this because you're a shitposting nodev at heart but please just consider it. You can't be a hyper sensitive unprofessional shitposter while also wearing your company mascot outfit and then also try to pivot into being some kind of mainstream expo that "doesn't have the 4chan stigma attached". You know? I just don't understand why you have so little common sense. Letting guys who spam doxxes and buttholes on 8ch set the vibe in your discord and just generally baiting schizos in the thread all the time. You should know better.
>>554841867>you're a shitposting nodev at heart >You should know better.
I'm finally at the point with my game where I have a uniform approach to everything. I can quickly add new systems, entities, whatever into my game. All the wiring and scaffolding is there for everything so to speak. I even put extra time to make sure I can make most anything with the IDE without having to code anymore.Now I'm kind of paralyzed because I don't know the first thing about HUDs, or UX elements, and beyond using free pixel sheets and making UI elements like boxes I don't really know anything about style or artwork. I don't want to use AI. Is there any good stuff out there about UX/HUD design you think I should read?
>>554834771The revenue estimates on that site are so completely retarded
This is the progress I am most proud of.
sixseven
>>554833542>more content>better art>floppedunderstand why they're flopping and you will know what need to be changed in your game
truehttps://x.com/Messerschmied14/status/2014357290963411343
>>554841867NTA but you're just as retarded as you claim he is for bringing up an hours old post just to ignite drama during a dead period.
>>554842490It's net, not gross. It includes the Steam cut, but doesn't include MTX or DLCs.
>>554842498>Yes, the majority of my engine will be written in QuickBASIC>It will still run faster than Godot
>>554820406You get banned and brag about it in your discord my guy. You're not a gamedev, you're a shitposter who nested in this community for years and decided to pay people to work on an expo for you and now you're trying to build agdg2 which you openly admitted in your discord because you love to overshare like most narcissists. You really think you are like an official in this community and v3 is an official agdg thing that needs to be in the OP and that it's ridiculous for someone to remove it and you have no concern about how that looks. It's all about power with you. You think you're hiding it because most narcissists do think they have everyone fooled.
>>554842692They're retarded with or without that frankly, I think a lot of the games I recognize are underestimated by at least 10x
>>554834771>Over $1m revenue4 (0)>Approx. half a million2 (1)>Approx. quarter of a million3 (1)>Around 100k to 190k6 (1)>Between 10k to 99k5 (5) ;_; the odds are not looking good. The numbers in parentheses signify the amount of games in that category whose art I can achieve. The one's at 6 figures that I can match stand out for one obvious reason or another. But I'm seeing a few of these get away with high prices compared to the art quality.
>>554842276I was going to recommend you look up graphics design fundamentals, but I just went and looked and holy shit is it bad.
>>554840997Cris......the first AI, a real AI. Released in the 80s or 90s he escaped containment. The SCP known as Cris.
>>554843412>Cris is AIChatgpt has some serious competition
>>554842276https://www.gameuidatabase.comas for reading, "picture This: How Pictures Work".
The primary goal was always to be the king nodev who holds court over a community of established gamedevs. The power is intoxicating for someone like that. This is why he bullied Osh.
>>554843516>Chatgpt has some serious competitionCris generate me a game about destroying pantsu.
I haven’t posted here in forever after finally giving up on game dev, but I just saw that Vinesauce played Acrolyte a few days ago. All the comments on the YouTube video are super positive too, people seem to have been really impressed.That’s awesome, congrats man (if you’re here). I hope you and many others from /agdg/ make it.
>>554843716Kek'd
Some progress
Nigga it ain't that serious holy shit
>>554843716I just realized your visionhttps://ca3gamedev.itch.io/pantsu-destroyer
>>554842602>You're not allowed to read and react to post #20 in a 100 post thread Silence, actual retard.
>>554844136150*
>>554843808Thanks. I'm not him but your comment made me feel good
>>554818917It’s not going anywhere. Like you said, it’s a hobby. There will always be people who want to and like making games. The dumbasses who get into game dev purely as a money making scheme are few and far between, they just happen to be the most vocal.
>>554843929>removing MY things from the OP again schizos? surely it can't be because your obsessed with my amazing blahblahblahblah
>>554734212Thanks wasn't expecting such nice compliments.>>554825467>>554827724It was a virus that downloaded automatically. Please understand.>>554839656>>554841472Stop gooning and dev so that I may goon to your deving
>>554844383The developers are willing to bet their livelihood by trying to make a living off of gamedev are far more passionate than hobbycopers will ever be. Every video game that you've ever seriously enjoyed was made by people who make video games for a living, not some unemployed basement dwelling loser living off mommy or welfare.
>>554832145>Check some different places to verify this>Literally every comment is celebrating and praying the bubble pops and AI diesThe big AI companies lost the optics war so hard. This is not just artists celebrating, its every comment I see. What were they thinking?
>>554839656why did you do it?
>>554845246I just want to buy some ram... I use Claude a ton, but let AI die I was fine without it.
>>554845117>so that I may goon to your devingkek
>>554834771I have to watch this at 1.30x speed.
>>5548455422.0x is always my default YouTube speed.
>eceleb appears on my screen
>>554845246It's when they started nessing with the breads and circus's (video game systems, pcs, phones).>gamer: reeeeee i cant play my video games without paying 2x the price for the console/pc!!!!>people who rely on high end pc equipment: reeeee they're reducing the supply, i need this for work and i dont get a stipend for it!!!!>stacies and non stacies and even men: i will not pay more for a phone that has less than my last phone!!!!
>>554839587I imagine myself as a Humbert.
>>554845246>The big AI companies lost the optics war so hard.It doesn't really matter to them because the underlying tech is still used to control the world. They just made it available to the commoners as a pretext to pumping investment money by the trillions into it. Now that the tech has reached a certain level and they're sucked up so much hardware and perfect the database construction process they're more than happy to let people keep hating AI while it runs everything. If they didn't act concerned about these things it would kind of ruin the illusion of AI being a consumer product arising organically from publicly traded companies.
>anti-AI impotent rage and e-celebs>every single dayGlad I'm not a schizo, that sounds tedious having to maintain a posting schedule because you're insane.
>>554845246The investors are tech illiterate and don't care if GenAI succeeds or fails because they can just buy the debt off failed businesses to get back the Datacenters for cheap, then repackage them and use their "new" businesses as leverage for new loans to focus on AI applications like medicine and material science. They currently don't have to assume any of the risks while reaping all of the rewards.
I am very close to finish the 4th map Corridors of Lust, the map will have gravity shifting and non Euclidean spaces (for example a corridor is larger than it's supposed to be).
>>554846681based based based
>>554846514>anti-AI impotent rageWhere.>nooo you cannot speak of AI unless I dictate the discussion You're a low IQ nodev though. I think we can take it from here. This was never your thing that you're the expert of or something. You're just larping like you do with gamedev in general. Step aside poser.
>>554845390society
>>554846824You have to stop before it's too late.
>>554846523This. It will all be used to develop the quantum computers also, the marriage of that with AI is what leads to the the singularity which is the primary direction of all things. It's cosmic.
>>554846681Love that you can take out lights. Are those panels going to have animated dance loops?
>>554846681I really admire that you didn't lower the weapons yet. It's such an obvious thing to gripe about for anyone failing to appreciate how it makes your game instantly recognizable and stands out from the rest.
Willow's character has really gone downhill since she became a lesbian witch
>>554846681mixed reviews trooncore refundslop
>>554846681why is the character 6 inches tall?
>>554847557>yetactually that's the wrong way to put it and sounds ambiguous what I mean is DON'T lower those weapons. Keep the SOUL
>>554847790>low effort boomer shooter with tranime>SOULpick one
>>554846817Counterpoint: you are insane, I wouldn't mind it because this is 4chan but people like you are making us yesdevs leave. Did you get molested as a child? That would explain your behavior and if so I'm sorry it happened.
>>554847657>>554847663>>554847880melties are here!
>>554846824>>554839656have you tried not relapsing?
>>554847970
>>554845246Practically all of my normie coworkers went from loving AI to despising it within the span of a year once tech companies (mainly Microsoft) started forcing AI shit into everything against consumers’ will. Across the board it’s made using virtually any program significantly clunkier and slower despite promising the exact opposite. I can feel a sense of relief wash over me whenever I switch to an “archaic” program that hasn’t yet forced me to use an AI agent, because I know 50% of my time won’t be spent playing tug of war against said agent as it tries to steer me in whatever generalized “correct” direction it’s determined I must take.Tech companies were way too heavy handed with how they approached this, but all they cared about was slapping an AI label on their products to increase share prices.
>>554847976is this the part where you tell us about how getting demo reviews is a great success?
>>554846817>>554847970>Where.No answer btw
>>554845117Trying to fit in, Lacari-sub?
>>554846681
>>554848143>all they cared about was slapping an AI label on their productsand you're gonna SELL IT. You're gonna SELL IT
>>554834771So many games that look fun......yet they.....did poorly.......Bro's is this a repeat of the 1900s when gaming had a crash from so many games? Except this time the demand for quality is so high that genuinely interesting games are failing while the few at the top are absorbing the majority of gamers?
>>554848193Watch out he's gonna spam youtubers now.
>>554846681It's kino!
>>554848512>genuinely interesting games are failingCareful...
>>554847557I think that anime face makes it stand out. according to the comments on tictok etc
>>554848650how many times you gonna samefag to that? freak
>>554846681I have a feedback but it might just be for the webm.I think the glow on the health is a little high it makes it less readable.
>>554848510That’s the thing though, they’re not selling it. They’re just putting it into their existing products that are already used by millions of people so they can report artificially inflated earnings and user data. Then if the shareholders stop falling for that trick they start charging their customers for the AI shit they never asked for via a subscription model.
>>554847657the target audience are not that fussy(not a dig)
>>554848512>the 1900s
>>554848896it does look bloomier than the blue glow. less crisp, like the camera has a smear there.
>>554848512and these *checks notes* .. Japanese cartoons .. has something to do with this?
>>554849132Technically correct. Us 'lennials are from the 1900s
/v/ dev thread > agdg
>>554849458In certain ways. They serve separate purposes sometimes.
>>554820680What did the dev do to you?
>>554849295
>>554849329I know, I just don’t like seeing it phrased like that. It makes me feel unc, as they’d say.
>>554848512>>554849132>>5548493291980s>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_crash_of_1983>The crash was attributed to several factors including market saturation in the number of video game consoles and available games>market saturation....available gamesIsn't that what is happening right now unlike the golden age of the early/mid 2010s?
>>554849615nta but we warned him that he's making a game in a dead genre with no hook, i think he's a furry iirc and they tend to be autistically stubborn but there ya go
>>554849725'they' being the negro folk
>>554849458link to the /v/ dev thread please
>>554849458make one
>>554849919https://discord.com/
>>554849735back then there was nothing good to play. the novelty of moving 10 dots around got old
>>554849791>make a furry game>don't put furries on the capsule art>don't advertise it to furrieswhat went wrong?
>>554849735We're in a new golden age actually. Didn't you get the memo?
Finished coding all of the logic. Now I got no other choice but to work on the animations.
>>554849735Grim. Apparently Nintendo's NES saved the console market by shutting out games not deemed fit. Sounds familiar to when PC gaming didn't just let you enter the few big ecosystems willy nilly and when grifter youtubers weren't selling people the gamedev high life dream when in reality its not all that great, Branno and Biteme unironically being closer to the reality of gamedev unlike those channels where the dev never even finishes a game or produces so few games that they get outcompeted by the slowest devs here. I mean come on Sasquatch B has that one crummy game. If we had a 7 day long game jam, Im sure most anons here could produce a small game better than that.
>>554847557>makes your game instantly recognizable and stands out from the rest.Yeah, that's why I a haven't lower the weapon, I remember someone here posting a meme image comparing Guns and Nuns's aim view to Doom and CS, and that convince me to just keep like that.>>554847497You didn't plans for that, those panels are there for decoration, but I really like your idea. I will try and animated them.>>554848896I think some maps make it harder to read so I will keep that in mind.
>>554850516is that a koikatsu model i used to mod that game years ago
>>554850516Wait a second, that shadow, it reminds me of that green haired girl from Fiend Heart but with a non chibi artstyle lel
>>554849735The crash and our ecosystem have nothing in common since they relied on physical copies of the games to distribute not to mention that any big year in gaming immediately followed a major recession. There's a pattern of minimum oversight, talented creators becoming available (from other industries) and people wanting to distract themselves from the failing economy. The exact same pattern repeats with movies and tv shows.
>>554850354Very interesting. And Japanese cartoons had something to do with this logic?
>>554847497Kek when I first saw the webm I thought it was animated until I got a closer look
>>554850516omg is that a shadow of a heckin Japanese cartoon girl!?
>>554850942That's Korean.
>>554849735>>554850075Yeah games back then were literally trash and ended up in the trash where they belong. Games in the 90s were incredible.Saturation has been an issue the past decade or more, it's not as relevant if you make the right kind of game in certain genres. And even genres that do seem saturated because they have a dozen titles are still viable because people will buy and play anything in that genre.In the 80s crash people did not collect huge libraries of games the way they do now.
nigga opus 4.5 is lowkey goatednever pay for rpgmaker plugins it can make better ones without bugs and with better perfs, sheesh
>>554849295>>554850942Where've you been?
>WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWW IT'S MY FAVORITE JAPANESE CARTOON FROM KOREA, THE COUNTRY WHERE ALL MY FAVORITE BOY BANDS AND FERMENTED CABBAGE DISHES COME FROM!!!!!!!!!!
>dragon khan copycat seething over anime in an anime website
>>554851231>FERMENTED CABBAGE DISHESKimchi is goated.
>>554851372tranime in a tranime website*
Imagine for a second the PC gaming market crashes. On Steam alone the games released in a single year drop down to just a little over 500. Wew wouldn't that be nice, odds of success improve so long as your game is good enough.
>>554850516lol I made that.. 6 months ago! wow
>WOOOOOOW IS THAT A RUSSIAN CARTOON LIKE MY DADDY USED TO WATCH IN THE OLD COUNTRY? I NEED TO USE THAT AS MY AVATAR ON 4CHANNEL!!! I AM SO RUSSIAN AND UNIQUE! >what, where's my mom from? shutup >I AM A BASED RUSKIE AND I LOVE RUSSIAN CARTOOOOOOOOOONS!
Oh but I thought Fygoon said in the last thread he didn't post here anymore. Strange.
>>554851470cry harder
>>554851525imagine for a second having a personality
>>554851525Your odds of success are already incredibly good so long as your game is good enough (yours is not).
>>554851576Unironically I was looking for that earlier but quickly forgot
>>554851597>cry harderme to your mom
>>554851597Stop fucking posting bocchi like this. She wouldn't be mean to people she's NICE
>>554851615imagine making AI your whole personality and still failing to make a game, oh wait you have dome exactly that Joshua keky pow or whatever it is you say>>554851630shut up Dragon Khan cloner your game sucks, no one cares that your daddy thinks its good. pppffft good for the fridge that is lmao!
>>554851740POW
>>554851114>nobody plays fighting games anymore>Street Fighter 4 gets released>nobody plays open world games anymore>Minecraft gets released>nobody plays mmos aside from WoW anymore>FFXIV gets released>nobody plays 3rd person games anymore>Dark Souls gets released>nobody plays ARPGs anymore>Diablo 3 gets released>nobody plays RTS anymore>Total War: Warhammer gets released>nobody plays DayZ anymore>PUBG gets released>nobody plays COD anymore>Warzone gets released>nobody plays Survival Craft anymore>Valheim gets released>nobody plays crpgs anymore>Baldur's Gate 3 gets released>nobody plays Tarkov anymore>Arc Radiers gets released>nobody plays jrpgs anymore>Expedition 33 is releasedsomething will happen any day now...
>>554851937>good for the fridgelol
>>554820531>I think the other guy lied and it was Games Workshop being overtly annoying again that resulted in this.I choose to believe that this is the case, and not some other thing.I also believe that GW is going to eventually, some day, discover why letting their long-nose legal department roam the open roads and maul innocent passers-by is a bad idea.Notice that i said "discover" and not "learn from" because learning requires them to still be alive after the discovery.> First man to discover explosives> Second man to discover explosives> First man to learn how to discover explosives and not die in the process
>>554851875The time for nice bocchi is over.
>>554851981or my favorite>nobody plays Dwarf Fortress anymore>Dwarf Fortress is released
>>554851981>nobody plays sokoban games anymore>Frederick Conception's Bokube is released
>>554852301nobody ever played suckoban games lmao
>>554851981>nobody plays 3rd person games anymoreWhen has anyone ever said that.>something will happen any day now...Please be more clear with your communication, schizophrenic person.
>>554852560>Over its history, the series has sold over 4.1 million copies worldwide, with more than 40 official games released across various platforms.
marmo won
>>554852760so they're popular in one small chink village who cares boring
>>554850712Yeah, I wanted only black silhouettes and make every panel have a different images so no room looked the same, but, making a drawing for everything will be too time consuming, especially because I only need black non explicit silhouettes and I don't have too much time left for development. Thinking in a solution, I figured out that making a demon girl on koi, taking a transparent screenshot, then removing all saturation and brightness give me a nice black silhouette. Some anon mentioned if it can be animated and I guess he is right, I just have to take enough screenshots and code a script to animate the sprite renderer on Unity.>>554850805Haha, not the same, but I love tomboy demon girls so I have a tendency to make one when creating a demon girl.>>554851576lol, that's the image.
>>554834672Noooooo only hard stuff is on my plate I hate working on the hard stuff, don't make me!!!!!! On the brightside I did find good art references >>554850354Which game, Aggy Chan or the Elf one?>>554852183Kita the Mean has joined your alliance. Also kek the artist that made your pic is the same one that made mine.
imagine having Japanese cartoonbrain to the extent that you believe Sokoban was all the rage back in the day
>>554851525What the fuck is a pc gaming crash and how come your game would be one of the 500 but 20000 other games currently aiming for a steam release somehow don't make it?Stop fantasising.
>>554852301Oh no bokube is this... is this another one of your "my game actually is good and ignored by the algorithm" moments... oh boku not like this boku. This is not the way...
>>554845246Hopefully it pops and all the free to use AI dies. Its for the best that AI be reserved for the tech savvy and wealthy. Giving the entire third world access to slop generators is making life worse for everyone.
>>554850354How do you dev so fast?>>554852916>and I don't have too much time left for development.Nta but what???? Self imposed time limit for the game to be done? Something coming up irl that forces you to finish it by a certain date?
>>554853089Simple, a never give up mindset. The normies would drop it the moment their parasocial friendship youtuber and discord disappear. I've devved solo for years before even showing up here and meeting all my cute aggy frens. I can survive with the parasocial youtube or discord or twitter stuff. 4chan isn't even parasocial on that degree anyways. I can survive, I can just like make game straight into a gamedev collapse scenario
>>554853186>Giving the entire third world access to slop generators is making life worse for everyone.Uhh my life is completely unaffected by that. Okay though.
>hear fact that you don't like>seethe for 3 posts in a rowimagine kek
>>554851875>she's NICEshe also has mean moments>>554851740>t. chickened out with the girl at the gymkek
everyone knows what a sokoban game is... h-how ...
a game where you wrestle twinks
>>554853616Ma'am, this is the game developers' general filled with game developers and game developer lolcows.
>>554853448Why don't you just make a good game that people like and want to play instead of fantasising about a magical scenario that somehow eliminates 95% of your competition and resets the Internet back to 2005?
>>554853745every gamer over 25 knows.
A game with squares you say?That's just like my game, Bokube By Frederick Conception!
Bug: The player can still aim and shoot while knocked down by a heavy attack. I wonder if I should leave that in but I probably shouldn't for balance.
>>554853616Sokoban used to be all the rage back in the day. I know because I watch Japanese cartoons and read Wikipedia.ja and eat ramen from cups
Okay. This is last time. I swear.
>>554853268>Something coming up irl that forces you to finish it by a certain date?Yes that's the reason, for personal reasons I cannot delay the launch beyond April, so I making my maximum effort to finish this game on time. Basically, I only have one bullet and I will not allow myself to miss.
>>554853905Bokube, a Frederick Conception game, by Frederick Conception.
>>554854025you're a bug
>>554854025Balance is a bullshit reason devs use to fuck up their games and make the gay and lame.
>>554854025she looks like she fucks nodevs
0.7% of all Steam games are sokoban games
>>554854045Click it and see what happens.
>>554854437It's just a jump button. What's the worst that can happen?
>>554854347I...
>>554853745*and exeleb worshipers, whoops forgot to add that (im trans btw if that matters)
>>554851981exception that proves the rule
>>554853745>Ma'am, this is the game developers' general filled with game developers and game developer lolcows.hmm?
>>554854038it was unironically. but only among 130+ IQ gamers.
>>554854038I eat my ramen from the ground with my fingers.
>deprecated feature that's enabled by default that for some fucking reason scales deltas applied to the controller by a completely fucking arbitrary number (2.5 and -2.5) fuckhttps://forums.unrealengine.com/t/why-does-the-inputyawscale-default-to-2-5/477043
>>554852978>Which game, Aggy Chan or the Elf one?Elfu.
>>554855483sounds like a skill issue
>>554855483Any of the controller yaw stuff should have been removed years ago. It's one of those things that are good for example projects and bad once you start making a bigger game.
great games provide a specific, necessary "nutrient" for the gamers soul. It brings "light" and "joy" into a world that can be dark and confusing.
>>554856018Bro, that nutrient is called "Vitamin D". Go outside, get some sun, and touch some grass.
>>554856267it's night
>>554856353It's always night when you lock yourself in the basement.
>>554856267no goy you need vitamin d from a pill we sell you
>>554856267there's a storm outside. wind over 70mph
>>554856436ok... I'll go out... just don't look at me ok?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqoLtu7h-wcHandsome man teaches you when to spend money on your game.
>>554856631Proud of you.
>>554856735Hey Branno, it's Guys here.
>>554834771do people really watch these kinds of videos
>>554842752anyone working in QuickBASIC should look at QB64.com as an IDE for BASIC."Unlike traditional BASIC and QBasic code, QB64 gets compiled automatically into machine code – allowing exceptional performance, easy distribution, and the ability to link with external C and C++ programming libaries."
>>554856880I'll genuinely throw anything even slightly gamedev related on in the background to use as background noise. Usually just Marnix videos because he doesn't add a bunch of annoying sound effects or music.
Programmer who only draws stick figures here.Any pixel art tutorials you recommend?
>>554856735have a good one
>>554834771Marketing isn't everything - unless you don't do itRemember that
>>554846681kino alert
>>554856990https://www.derekyu.com/makegames/pixelart.htmlyou should also animate your stick figures, helps as a basis for many a sprite!
>>554856990It's not hard. Pick a palette from https://lospec.com/palette-list (do NOT under any circumstances stray from your palette). Then, go to https://www.spriters-resource.com/ and trace/kitbash from older professional games with your target art style.
>>554857187Incredible. Thanks a lot anon
>>554854025I like this art style, the megaman legends style should've have taken off over the ps1 shader or n64 slop
>>554856957I'm too tilted on biteme to listen to them anymore. Here's 50+ minutes of him explaining why they aren't making games anymore, all within the past 2 weeks.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSmwDlu3-s4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYoQbPOrJFwBut they canceled 2 dozen games, that's what really makes them like the real game studios!
>>554856735I think its pretty funny this guy made a video about cargo cults in game design and went on to create a DomeKeeper clone only to realize that it didn't appeal to anyone.
>>554856735imagine paying for music when you can AI generate music and nobody will notice your music is even AI
>>554857420Trvke
>>554854105I see, I hope your life goes well fren!
>"dodge this"only a few animation left for transition
>>554857405Making a [something]-like is not the same as cargo culting cmon anon.
>>554857384They're going to release their Chernobyl game this year at the very least. Though if I was them I wouldnt because 3 games with the same basic foundation is basically cementing your studio as the Anomaly Game studio.
>>554857513maido
The best marketing is making a game people actually want to play. You don't need a youtube video to tell you that.
>>554857420instead of paying for music, spend 200 on a 32 key midi keyboard that collects dust.
>>554857405if he makes the domekeeper effigy, domekeeper fans will fly over his house and drop crates of food
>>554857420Having a note worthy composer attached to your game is a marketing tool in itself.it's why so many horror games will get Akira Yamaoka to write a single track for their game so they can advertise their game with his name.Hans Zimmer does something similar too.I don't care how cancelled he is, I would ask Jeremy Soule for music if I was making an RPG.
>>554857618Many flopdevs suffer from NPD and absolutely hate the idea of making games that people want to play. The world needs to revolve around them and only them.
Wow so Buffy died at the end of season 5 saving the world and her magic fake sister. I wonder what that means for the last 2 seasons
>>554857860Buffy inspired VTMB game when?
>>554857618I thought the best marketing was begging the other troons on discord to leave a review on your demo?
>>554858008Why does this bother you so much lmao
>>554857420>he doesn't have an analog synth autist buddy IRL to make all the music for his gameNGMI
>>554854025For better or for worse, your game looks like ai
>>554858698looks like that that megaman legends style loli AI image that was spammed here over the last year or 2.
>>554858869meds
>>554859331
>>554859428this post is extremely low quality
>>554855509Are you from Yemen?
After some investigating three genres are off the table. Absolutely grim, such low review counts for games that require a lot of time to develop. Might be time for me to consider towel tossing if this is how competitive it's gotten.
>>554854025Make more hard to aim? More heavy probably shaking while the duration of the knock
>>554860128No harm.
>>554860128I looked up first person dungeon crawlers on that site and it's very grim, time to trash this project.
Big shoutout to my boy fatfuck gabencunt for massively fucking over niche genres with the caveman algorithm that only recommends successful games.
"Niche genre" is a euphemism for "games that people don't want to play".
>>554859942Semen.
>>554861437
Crying hours. Daddy issue hours.
Gaben saved PC gaming from mediocrity. Yeah, I said it.
>>554862575PC gaming pre steamBanger after banger after bangerPC gaming nowBrainrot after brainrot after brainrot
You want to "make it" with an obscure genre because of your ego. e.g. "Farming sim" is actually an incredibly under-served genre, but you're never going to make one of those because you absolutely hate the idea of you telling your family and friends, "I made a farming sim and it made $10m" and they say, "oh so, you made a SDV clone?"Your goal isn't to just make a good game and find success. Your goal is to come out of nowhere and wow the world with a completely unexpected success. You don't what to succeed using any tried and true formulas for success. Spoilers: that will never happen.
>>554862687I wanted to debunk this but I genuinely can't.
>>554856957as an ESL I can't do that
>>554862894You can't because you're retarded.
>>554862687You don't even play videogames. Run along back to /v/ now to lose some more arguments with other fake gamers.
>>554863105Cris I need your take on the Steam/Gabe issue.
>>554862838i've studied the blade
>>554863319While you studied the blade, I partied and had sex.
>>554863207kek, I'm not Cris
>>554863501proof?
>>554863197I play more video games in a week than you've played in your life pablo. PC gaming was at its peak in the late 90s to early 2000s. We're in a period of complete stagnation now where the best games are the ones that clone the games that came out back then.
>>554863603Go ask your mother.
>>554862838>"Farming sim" is actually an incredibly under-served genreproof? stardew has that genre on lock even though you still see lots of farm game slop on steam
>>554863687d-dad?
If I had asked gamers what they wanted they would have told me: "Idle clicker with better graphics"
>>554863907https://store.steampowered.com/app/2238470/Grimshire/
>>554862838>scared of the idea of you telling your family and friends, "I made a farming sim and it made $10m" and they say, "oh so, you made a SDV clone?"Trvke trvke. Well kind of. The prejudice is internal they actually hate the idea of making the "clone" themself and don't even consider actually doing it and what it would be like to show it to anyone. This is the easy way, they can make nothing and just complain and be scared.Been watching this farming sim dev kino latelyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld9qvxoaB6Y
>>554863907https://steamdb.info/app/2678830/charts/I don't appear to have it saved, but there's a popular Zuk chart that compares median revenue of games in a genre to the number of games released in that genre.
>>554863660>le old? GOOD>le new? BAD>LE PEAKFucking yawn.
>>554864128
>>554864128I've been saying this for almost a year now.
>I don't appear to have it saved, but there's a popular Zuk chart that compares median revenue ofnonononononononononoNOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>554864380Le old good? Yeah every other game making any money on steam is a clone of le old.
>>554864226this doesn't look very good...
Week 1 of sexy Dominions Clone.pivoted from unit assignment and battling to world map.i saw a icosphere and got inspired. i think instead of 1 map it will be sphere planets with different themes and at certain tiles will be gates. If you want to travel you need to control a tile adjacent to the gate.fake 3d was hell though. But more fun than ui in pycode
>>554864573no, and yet, 1,894 reviews for an early access farm game
>>554864668nice
>>554862838in my backlog of ideas, i was vaguely thinking about making a farming game thats solarpunk-themed with a bit of automation gameplay in it. i dont have any time to prototype it though
>>554864568Don't care. I play numerous titles released in the past few years and they're amazing. I don't need zoomies and spergs telling me games were great in the past, I played them then too. I'm just not a retard hipster who is scared to enjoy "modern gaming".
>>554864668>week 178>sounds disturb npcs with bigger ears, build your house walls accordingly
>>554865000mindless consumerism isn't something to brag about
>>554864876cows with solar-panels on their backs. it sells itself.
>>554864724it's a farm game x werewolf vn if my memory serves correct
>>554865124See how easy it is for you to say absolutely nothing in response. Brainrot indeed.
>>554845128>not some unemployed basement dwelling loser living off mommy or welfarethe people deving as a hobby are the jobless ones? I would've thought the people aiming for this to be their income would be the ones without incomes...
>>554862687TRVKEAlthough valve did unintentionally improve gaming for a short time with greenlight which gave us tons of fantastic games.
>>554865207it appears to serve incorrect. there's survival elements. if you don't get enough food people perish.
TRVKE pepe keeps saying something that is based and true in the first sentence but the second sentence always makes me hesitate. Tighten it up, trvke pepe. Less is more.
>>554853186>Giving the entire third world access to slop generators>Its for the best that AI be reserved for the tech savvy and wealthySlop will still continue, most of the slop is made by fully automated content generators. Indians were just the scapegoat, the real problem were wannabe Jews trying to get passive income doing nothing.
progresssome more health bar stuffyou regen back some of the damage you take, food can refill this "gray health" baralso added "lost HP" effect and rewrote the entire shader because it was getting painful to maintain
>le greenlight was so le peak le golden agelol anon literally has senile dementia.
>>554865870Nice.
>>554865772>Indians were just the scapegoatUmm duh consider who you're talking to. They try and fail to make AI slop and then they rant about Raj and pajeets all day to cope. People this simple used to be cannon fodder and now we get to see them in technology hobbies making noise like this.
>>554866020https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l01AMCBG0Wk
>https://howtomarketagame.com/2026/01/15/pc-gaming-has-changed-less-than-you-think-12-examples/Not much has changed about PC gaming hardware since the 90s. We still use mouse, keyboard, and a 2d array of pixels. The only things we've improved on are VRAM and internet connection speeds. If you completely ignore any of the newer genres that this hardware allows, like MOBAs and battle royales, then yeah, nothing has changed. Movieslop is still the same movieslop it's always been.Physically, humanity peaked at Korean Brood War players. AoE 3 and 4 flopped, and everyone is still playing AoE2 for that reason. We simply can't muster up more APM.In the 2000s, we went through a phase where DSL got fast enough for us to move our AIM chats over to Varrock bank, the Origimmar bank roof, and the MS Free Market, but that wouldn't last. The rise of Discord was the final nail in the coffin for MMOs as a genre, because the game we really wanted to play all along was just Discord. The entire friendslop genre can be thought of as minigame DLCs to Discord.>>554865634May I offer you a lengthy TrvkeZUK rambling instead?
>>554865870this is one of the best health bars I've seen in my life.
>>554865870also now there's officially different monsters with different stats, equipment and behavior
>indian mentioned>zukjeet posts a blogpostyou cannot make this shit up
Greenlight was cute and wholesome which is why gabe killed it because he's a fat fuckin cunt that can't stand to see beautiful things in the world.
>>554866085Viscera Cleanup Detail but in india
>>554866109thanksits a simple trick, just combining a normal rectangle health bar with this mask (red is alpha, green is prebaked shadows that draw on top of the juice)then i draw the skull and stuff on toptechnically health bar also can fill between any 2 arbitrary points on the rectangle, but the only 2 places i use it is either fully vertical or fully horizontal
>>554866162Sit the fuck down and read my blogpost, dumb bitch.
>>554865870WOAH! OMG I LOVE YOUR HEALTH BAR AAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!
>>554861437Israel?
>began prototyping a semi-idle incremental>decide to play some for research>??????how the fuck does people find this fucking shit enjoyable? its terribleeven the ones that try to be mildly interesting with the mechanics or whatever they give you a 'equip best' buttonso you dont even have to think about playing the game at alljust check in another 30 minutes and click the buttonfuck you fuck you fuck youskinnerian bullshit how people are gobbling this up
>>554866518awesome.
>>554866140I can't believe you teamed up with an artist and got this. This is unfiltered childlike SOVL in the backhanded way.
>>554866795Gamers really are stupid animals. Seeing a number go up and become big number then hearing a sound is enough to make them happy. We have a few people here that are like that too.
>>554866795number go up = I'm mastering something... I'm the best..
>>554866795Are you playing F2P MTX ones? Play the paid ones like Tower Wizard or Digseum.
>>554866902let me cook bro
>>554866346Vishnu cleanup derail
>>554866996>leave the computer running>go make a coffee>sit back watch a video essay>clcik game window>click equip best>im mastering somethingfuck you fuck you fuck you fuck youim gonna end up pivoting into a rogueslop instead fucking incrementals this isnt even a fucking game what the fuck
>>554867123
>>554866020Nope, still fuck AI sloppers. When I see AI content I don’t think of who the promoter could be, I think of some AI agent prompting random words into LLM and converting them into prompts to post. AI brought the skill requirements to a level where python script can become e-celeb. AI is the dead internet, it is not low IQ masses posting higher quality content.
>>554867131thats the thought process. >heh I tricked the system, I'm mastering it without even touching it!I got that feeling one time in my life when I 'beat' sim city 2000 and left it running for hours and then when I had a bazillion dollars I filled the entire map with arcologies.
>get told to just use other art as reference rather than memory>don't even zoom in despite the blur on it>finally perfect the design I've been failing on>the angle was screwing me over>look at reference>uhh why does this look so similar?>scale down the reference to see it's true shape>mfw it's nearly identical with just a few different design choicesSurely I cannot be sued for this right???? This isn't the first time this happened, in fact the last time, I simply rotated an object I designed to get the shape I wanted. Lo and behold, the exact same angle and design of a game I was referencing, ironic as that means they likely did exactly what I did. Considering how I achieved it I refused to back off and kept the design. If I ever get sued, then I can prove I came upon it naturally and could do it from memory alone in a court room. But this one? How do I even avoid getting sued? The shape is nearly identical but easy to also draw from memory. Sure there are differences in color choices but it otherwise looks like a copy. I won't get sued right? It's not exactly a complex design.
>>554867632You can literally just trace and no one will sue, retard.
>>554867632"it's a parody"sue-proof (unless you are garbage pail kids)
>>554867069>digseum>mouseover something >the button fucking TILTS hmmm juicy>click excavate>minesweeper minigame>no consequence for """losing"""">find relic>get coin>????what isthefuckingpointwe need a berlin roguelike definition thing to decide what actually constitutes a fucking GAMEno lose/win condition = a toy, not a game
>420+ posts>only 4 devs post progress
>>554867859is digesum a scratch off lottery ticket in game form?
>>554867982YES
>>554867871The guy I'm working with asked me to stop posting here
>>554867859Puzzles don't have lose conditions.
>>554867982and the "reward" for """"winning"""" is more tickets to scratchthis is fucking MENTAL jesus christ>>554868049and what did i say?puzzles are solved not played
>>554868030smart guy
>>554868030GMI>>554868357y u heff 2 b mad?it's only game
>>554867702Really? There is only a few pixels difference. Iirc the other game I was working on, it wasn't even just a few pixels difference in shape it was literally the exact same structural design. Though by the end I recall adjusting it slightly to better fit the design constraints I had for it while buffing out some stuff that felt off. I guess that's the difference between me and them. I get too obsessed about perfecting the design while they seemingly just decided it was good enough and went with it.
>>554868747Someone please post the Stardew Valley chicken for this neurotic woman.
>>554866548Based smug Kita fren dropping gamedev knowledge
>>554867131>>leave the computer runninggreat way to start a fire. but yes, keep leaving your computer unattended retard and learn the hard way nonce
>>554866346Made in the same game engine as Mudrunner
>>554869786
>>554869786H____ M__
>>554818513Recap made from a sample database. The script is done. Why u no use da format?https://litter.catbox.moe/apzsc461ht171wtk.jpg:: Game Name ::dev:: nametools:: toolslink:: linkrepo:: repoprogress:: progress here on multiple lines if you wantAnyway even though it looks bad it's 100% functional.
>>554866091>The rise of Discord was the final nail in the coffin for MMOs as a genreanon, I...
>>554870047>/agdg/ went downhill after devs stopped linking to their tumblr
>>554870539>tibia
>>554870047How does this work? The last guy had a website for this
>>554870047>he actually did it, the absolute madmannoice! are you gonna host it somewhere or just post it on the threads?
>>554870862How many of these games even released?
i'm ngmi without a marketer
>>554870984why do you guys always ask thisuh from this particular image only aerannis i think
>>554871120You would understand the concern if you actually made video games instead of simply lurking in the gamedev general for over a decade to experience gamedev vicariously through others.
>>554870579Yes they used to post all their degenerate gay fag schizo shit on tumblr and /agdg/ was for game dev. Then tumblr fell and that had disastrous consequences for 4chan as a whole.
>>554871294but i did release a game? still dont get itthis general currently has 20+ games under 10 reviewsbut also 20+ games above 1000 reviewsodds are bretty goodwhat are you worried about son?
>>554871667>but i did release a game?proofs?
Brahmin AI BVLLs run /agdg/
>>554872425
>>554872425You meme, but I was unironically in voice chat with a BrahminCHAD friend over the weekend, and he helped me figure out the best way to write my system prompts.
It's a real stroke of fortune that Angel brought back a new girlfriend from the demon karaoke singer dimension given that Buffy is dead and all
>>554818917I don't spend money on my game
>>554871102No one is
>>554873326No one is willing or able to market the unmarketable.
>e-celeb nigger got banned at the start of this thread>thread was mostly fine and chill>e-celeb nigger ban evades and returns>thread instantly went to shit againNo wonder yesdevs are leaving this place behind.
>>554870047If these can start getting hosted i'll start using the format again. I stopped once the website stopped working.
The image's quality is bad for some reason I think because I converted it to .jpg for some testing but it shouldn't look like that.>>554870830There's 3 scripts, one that fetches the past threads from 4chan, another that generates a database, and the final one makes an image from the database. The idea is you run all 3 every week to get an image for every week.>>554870862Thanks. I don't have the capability to host it so it's just gonna be on the threads. I only posted the catbox link because 4chan doesn't let me upload images for some reason.By the way I could also open source the scripts if anyone else wants to use them or develop them. I'm not quite happy with the style but all that matters is that it works
How sad it must be to have such low-IQ and pattern recognition abilities. I've been here the whole time, but he can't connect the dots unless it's based on the image attached to the post, and there are at least three of us who post with those same images.
>>554818917Indie devs need to stop worshipping steam and go to places where they are appreciated like itchio. Fuck steam. I wipe my ass with it. If your game does well on itch then go to steam for the extra money but otherwise you are burning your money for nothing.
>>554874282>Pogo you liar! You said it was just le heckin hobbirino!!!!!!IIRC pogodev pioneered the /pgdg/ meme. He's always been one of the more jobby posters.
>>554873562>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I WANT TO POST OFF TOPIC JAPANESE CARTOON SPAM IN PEACE ON THE AMATEUR GAME DEV THREAD WITHOUT MY FRICKIN THREAD BOOGEYMAN OF THE MONTH RUINING EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!
>>554874343>Indie devs need to stop worshipping steam and go to places where they are appreciated like itchioIt's not really indie devs that worship Steam, it's gaymers. Vintage Story and Hytale devs both didn't want to release their games on Steam, with the VS dev citing Steam's refund policy as one of the reasons, and tons of gaymers had literal chimpouts over this.Most indie devs just simply follow the money, because they don't have a big enough, loyal enough audience to overpower steam cultism.
>>554862838I've looked into it, it's not easy. Random chances in success, some decent looking just flop, while others with terrible art are doing decent.>but the median success is better!Yes but the development time for such games is much longer too. Idk I don't like that mixed odds of success/failure. Despite this I have wanted to make a farming sim for a long time, it's just a very time consuming game to make. My current situation is not conducive for making such a game, maybe in a few years, probably never.
>>554874282we are splitting revenuei did a small rev split with a sound/music guy for pogo3d too>>554874431i did not pioneer the pgdg meme. i did post my fair share of "your pgdg invite is on the mail" and made the original walljump image though
>>554874728I want to get big enough that I can just avoid all the PC storefronts with unreasonable cuts and stick to>my own website>itchio (10% cut is the minimum, any lower and you might get kicked by the site owner lel)>epic (assuming the setup process is easy and its cut is 12% without Unreal Engine use)And for the console side probably just Nintendo. That's the only ecosystem where I can reasonably accept the large cut, it's closed off and stops the flood of slop from just pouring in. Resulting in good discoverability. Yeah that would feel nice, a game so good the crowd will come to me to play it.
>>554874431>>554875014Sorry. I was just joking.
>>554875014Oh and good luck btw!
>>554875386>itchio (10% cut is the minimum, any lower and you might get kicked by the site owner lel)first time im ever hearing this, what's that come from?i've had mine set to 0% since leafo flopped to payment processors so now the only fees i pay on itch are to the people who dictate itch's policies.
>>554875716>what's that come from?NTA but I'm pretty sure that's what it says on their site when you set your cut, "You can only have it as 0% up to a certain point" but it seems they don't enforce that rule as much.
>>554875386>>epic (assuming the setup process is easy and its cut is 12% without Unreal Engine use)You're probably better off listing on GoG instead of Epic, GoG has an actual loyal userbase and their cut is also small, 13% I think?
>>554873872A website that shows the progress could be doable, but it's outside my scope a bit.
>>554875854no it doesn't.
>>554875986a public google drive would be enough desu. Just a place where things get hosted and achieved.
>>554876041I distinctly remember seeing something like that earlier when I set up my game on there 5 years ago, I must be misremembering something then, or they changed it since.
>>554875909GOG is 30%.
>>554866795>began making a game in a genre I know nothing about >WHAT IS THIS Maybe play the games first then decide whether to make it. As for the people "gobbling it up" they want something to tap on a screen while they watch a movie or something, what do you want. That's not the "gamer" demographic you would normally aim for but spergs like this can't comprehend that because it makes them feel superior to look down on anyone who is actually playing videogames (which they don't) >>554866926I still think you're larping actually and don't even have a prototype. Many such cases in this general.
>>554875854>>554876041it doesnt AND im fairly certain the text on this page is unchanged for a decade now, it still lists says>Industry standard (30%)even though the industry standard is 15% now.
>>554873562^this is what happens to a person when their narcissistic schizophrenic disorders are so strong that they refuse to tolerate seeing another human being on their computer screen.That and also they make no games. Obviously.
>>554876227Do they say this anywhere on their platform or is this something that other devs on there have said?
>>554876342>Sony, Xbox, Nintendo, Google, Apple, GOG, and of course good ol' Steam are all 30%>the industry standard is 15% now.Shouldn't you be at least a little embarrassed to post here after getting demolished yesterday?
>>554873326no nonce. gamedev is a lottery. everyone has an equal chance to make it
>>554876587you need to update too, google and apple are 15%, windows store is 12%
>>554876731>everyone has an equal chance to make itQuality post. This is what I come here for. I will sleep well tonight. Thanks, anon.
>>554876132I'll see. But I think all that's left is people post their progress in the format, since no one except Nortubel does it.
>>554876587>letting him bait you>thinking he is capable of embarrassment *taps sign*>>554726239
>>554876919>>554876587Zukjeet samefag
>>55487658730% is not even the standard on steamAAA studios aren't paying 30%, they pay %20 or lower. They negotiate it ahead of time with valve.Only indie devs pay 30%
>>554877051*taps sign* >>554876534
gogems little nodev ducks to the rescue we have your back mommy we will argue whatever side you're on Steam bad quack quack Steam bad! chirp chirp
If the 30% is necessary to have your game on steam then why does valve allow f2p games with no microtransactions.>Payment feesBut payment fees are way less than 30%
>>554877215If a game grosses over 50 million dollars in revenue on Steam, their cut also gets lowered. Terraria and Stardew Valley both grossed over $100 IIRC, so their devs pay a smaller cut to Valve as well.
>>554877215it's always worth pointing out that while having percentage changes at certain revenue levels is common on these stores, steam is the only one that A) isn't even based on revenue as far i can tell, just handshake deals with AAAs and B) is the only store where that percentage goes down instead of up.
>>554877383everyone knows this. and it's useless to even ponder because at that point who gives a fuck if valve's cut is zero
>>554877383It does but that's the .001% of indies and they still got charged 30% on most of their money.
How about you mind your own business?
>>554877360>If the 30% is necessary to have your game on steam then why does valve allow f2p games with no microtransactions.
>>554877339>flopagandist has been degraded to thisthey pay you for this trash?
2 cents deposited! chirp chirp
>>554875014>we are splitting revenue>i did a small rev split with a sound/music guy for pogo3d tooWhere are you even finding these people, if you don't mind sharing.
>>554877686Funny image. Never stop calling out the 2 cents posters
Best product ever made.Pocketwatchers are in shambles.
>>554877784sound guy has been an online friend since skypeart guy is in the 'cord
>https://youtu.be/iwrEvlKm1vswill /ourgirl/ rooi beat marnix to gamedev greatness?
>>554836749Why do you need more than one?
After suckering off the gabencunt cock, zukjeet is back to its routine of spamming youtube links.
>>554874343itch.io appreciates indie games? their store gives 0 visibility to games unless you're making the most vanilla crap everIn terms of DEV I now have localized weather that affects the tactical battles in my WW2 total war thing.Post you're games!
>>554879542*taps sign* >>554845762
>>554879131Watched some, she seems sweet.>couldn't get into gamedev when doing 2D until she did 3DKek. Wonder what would happen if I tried 3D for real beyond simply doing a few designs.>scroll her vids>therapyUhhh anon what kinda girl is she exactly?
>>554879664>their store gives 0 visibility to gamesSo does steam. But on itch you don't have to forever pay a 30% cut for absolutely nothing like on steam
>>554879664Nta but this looks neat.bwhats with some of the terrain looking weird with what looks like black roads? Game name?
>>554880113the kind that farms people who think she's genuinely in a constant state of introspective epiphanies
Your head will be crushed in your sleep if you don't lock in this weekend
>>554880136Ok I can agree on that, 30% is crazy high just to fund Gabe's scuba hobby.>>554880193WARCOM on Steam (demo soon), oh yea those weird lines are large hedgerows that are rendered better in the more detailed tactical battles (old WIP UI)
>>554880605Is that a threat? I will lock in because I want to not because you made me.
>>554879131>3:00Wasteland boys gear up. Looks like we got another one.
why is it that every modern religion or mindset or whatever is everytime about accepting being a poorfag?if it's not idealizing being a poorfag, then at least it's about "you cannot make it, it's impossible" like nihilism, doomerism and socialism.it's almost as if everything is a psyop nowadays to keep you poor. not a single movement is about getting filthy rich and making fuck you money and encouraging you to try until you achieved that goal.
>>554880605shut your mouth skinny zoomer
>>554881109Video games?
Are nodevs allowed to join the /v/3 game jam? Asking for a friend.
>>554881445If you're a nodev then how the hell are you going to make a game in a week?Other than that, fuck it join in Maybe you'll be a yesdev by the end of it
>554881445Obvious dramabait
>>554881109>"you cannot make it, it's impossible" like nihilism, doomerism and socialismWhat are you talking about lol
>>554882314I am said nodev hello. I was thinking about joining the gamejam so i can prove that us nodevs can make games too.
>I made MINECRAFT, you know...
>>554880113>Uhhh anon what kinda girl is she exactly?the type of girl that would have been an art-hoe if she had loose white parents rather than strict Asian parents. Basically she's a showcase that nurture eventually bends over for nature.
>>554882465What engine will you be working with?
Autismon a shit
>>554882875Probably godot. I've been doing some learning in preparation, I'm fairly serious about this.
>>554882938I'd say join in and test your mettleI'm taking a break off my main game to work on the game jam game just because it'll be good practice
>>554879131I have wanted to do this many times but as a solodev I know better. I don't think it is possible to roadmap your solo game with dates and deadlines.
>>554883160it's good practice multi line poster but it's a fragmentation of your mind and timeline is what it is. you know very well you can get as much practice out of your full feature main game but call it practice as a cop out. main game is all that matters and that's the truth. once it's released and entirely bug free then you are free to move on if you have no interest in further updates
>>554883260I will exercise my free will and work on the game jam game thanks
>>554883260>Noooooo you can't just take a week off to try and do something fun and experiment. You HAVE to be working on your main project 24/7!!!!!How's that working out for Boku huh? He's doing exactly that. Why isn't this logic working?
>>554880605what does fag cartoons have to do with it?
if Mitsubishi Toyota knew Japanese cartoons would become synonymous with gay sex he never would have invented them
I can work on my game again but now I don't know what to work on. The to-do list is huge. I suppose adding enemies would be important, although the game is fun without them too. So maybe I'll add a relaxed mode without enemies where you just do the thing and watch the numbers go up. Other more sensible devs would add it as an option with no downsides, but I'll want to restrict all the better stuff in the game to players who rise to the challenge.Last banana, no more bananas for the rest of the month.
>>554879131>godotngmi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0qmkQGqpM8has it all cooled off in here?
Is it true that the best programmers are the lazy ones?I've been called lazy my entire life
>>554883904Someone brought up the meme expo and that usually triggers a meltie so I'd continue bracing
>>554883875Prioritize stuff that will allow you to show off the game first off so you don't have to post your survival rations. Enemies are important for that, I think.
>>554864668What's your plan to improve upon a series that's been polished by 20 years of autism?
>>554884720I'm not making a game that looks impressive in any way. I'm counting more on its combination of genres having people think it's interesting and they might want to try it. But my expectations are low.
>>554885325games don't have to be high fidelity to look impressive, just gotta make up for it with style
what if you make a shitty game but it still does well because you're good at marketingpih...
>>554884720Please use format? >>554870047
>>554885617the AAA method.
>>554883508
>>554885487no that's not entirely correct. games that get lucky can pull it off with making up for it with style but for all other games that will not be the case
what went wrong?
>>554885834It's literally in ruins dumbass can't you read
>>554885834well the description makes it sound tacky and garbage so i reckon that played a role in that
>>554883904>has it all cooled off in here?psst
>>554818513:: Hirdrih Technologic ::progress :: Finally got this spriteset out. Ingame, it doesn't look too bad, surprisingly.In Nortubel, it was a lifeguard floater, here it's an anti-virus program.
If your game doesn't have gambling mini-games, I am simply not interested.
>>554886159i'll probably add one now actually. wouldn't be difficult. i'd probably just do a coinflip bullshit and you can wager however much you want
>>554886263Blackjack has the best accessibility/fun ratio of all gambling games and is very easy to code.
>>554885982If the game was successful, you'd say the description is daring, fresh, evocative, avant-garde.
>>554886159The mario games did gambling themed but semi skill based (reflex and matching sometimes) best.
>>554886360just calm down, sperg. i'm not adding a full on casino to my game where it would make zero sense and break the immersion. coin flip with an npc flipping the fucking coin is perfectly acceptable per my game. not all games are the same, retard. and i am more than aware on how easy it is to code.
>my indie game has poker in it!what's next, you're going to add a fishing minigame? a grappling hook?fucking whore.
>>554886448Calm down bro, I wasn't trying to offend you.
>>554885834aesthetic and perspective is reminiscent of ancient games - looks like boomer baitisometric top-front perspective is less visually interesting than top-front-side - deliberate design choice, motive unclearUI lifted straight outta Lords of the Realm 2 - again boomer baitEvery character looks the same - slop warningIt's a tower defense without a clear overview of your buildings/lanes - can't admire the aesthetics of your buildNo clear visual hierarchy decided by shapes and color, likely made by a somewhat colorblind person
>>554886448
>>554886520>you're going to add a fishing minigame? you didn't have to do eric like that...
i lost control of my bladder while cumming after edging for 6 to 7 hours, ended up peeing all over my bed. My mom hasn't woken up yet and i don't know what i'll tell her this timei shouldn't have project hopped into making a porn vn...
im going to pretend i didn't read that
DESTROY THE DOPAMINE RECEPTORS
>>554886520>add a fishing minigame? a grappling hook?I did
>>554885696That Minecraft recap. kekaroo:: WARCOM ::dev:: Broke_Protocoltools:: UE5link:: https://store.steampowered.com/app/4241390/WARCOM_Fortress_Europe/progress:: Turn-based operational layer logicFirst pass at UI elementsLocalized weather affecting movement and battles
https://vocaroo.com/1mAJaxAkd8dm
>>554857384Honestly I saw the signs of them being incompetent early on when they made a big deal about going to the gym and how that leads to "gains in game dev". No one who starts a business has time for gym bro, they spend the first 3 months doing 10-12 hours every day, overtime, whatever they need until they get a steady income coming. Self-care and gym is something you do when money starts flowing in, or when you don't own the business and you're just a regular employee. That's really the crust of their problem really, I feel like they approached game dev as if they were normal employees to someone else's company and not CEOs trying to start something off the ground from 0. They were too relaxed. (I'm not saying gym is bad, and you should still go assuming you're on a years-long project, but their approach is to make rapid-fire releases, they should've focused on that.)Hell, Marnix was taking regular trips to fucking Japan years ago, and now he moved there. Why the hell would you do that when you're trying to get a business going? These guys just want a rockstar lifestyle.
Good streak
>>554887197>the crust of their problem reallyI think you mean crux>I feel like they approached game dev as if they were normal employees to someone else's company and not CEOs trying to start something off the ground100% and that's because they even admit they're coasting on money from youtube and other things besides making games. They are larping really hard to the point that they are just now looking around and realizing (out loud to youtube because it makes them money) that they're not making games. They aren't being game developers.
You're either a youtuber or a game devYou cannot be both
>>554887609>thomas brush has entered the chat
just failmax and release the same slop over and over until it succeeds then do it againhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stxVBJem3Rs
>>554887831not watching that
>>554887831this won't work on steam, 100% flop rate without promotion efforts100%
>>554819892Don't let go.https://youtu.be/xtLCZ2_-Beg&t=230
>>554888201he's got around 100 reviews on 7 or so titles and a few with >1000
>>554887474>I think you mean cruxOh shit, yeah sorry, I shouldn't post while I'm hungry.> they're coasting on money from youtubeYeah I imagine this affects them a lot, like they never actually feel the "urgency" to make a game that actually earns them money. They have the safety net of "whether the game flops or not we still get youtube money along the way so whatever".
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3707400/OnTogether_Virtual_CoWorking/https://store.steampowered.com/app/3213850/gogh_Focus_with_Your_Avatar/A lot of these games are becoming popular lately, what does it mean?
>>554888109lol
>>554886139looks like shit maybe you shouldnt have spent all that time drawing deformed freaks with huge asses
>>554888427It means anime was a mistake.
>>554888427capitalize on lonelinessmake a million billion dollarseric barone did this btw>>554888331he has a 30+ year long community to support his games, i have done research on him before, if he didn't have these people to support him, he'd be at 50 reviews max on his gamespromotion is necessary
imagine if stardew valley didn't have NPCs and was just a pure farming simmaxximus floppimuslonelymaxx big buxxhey kid, want a friend simulator?hehe
marnix is live
https://x.com/i/status/2014444207394717886this is who i make my games for
>>554889205>already 2 hours and 30 mins inUNACCEPTABLE
>>554846681hey man i remember you posting that platformer with the vampire girl, glad to see you make it and perserve
>>554889284>50% not a bad deal>50% this is slaverygenz vs millennials
>>554889284Why are you gay?
After all the drama and the downfall of his channel, Thor is still devving.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmSLFb-9GzwWhat is YOUR excuse?
>>554889586stop projectingas a former wagie i understand their desiresthere is a reason slop is so popular nowafter a 12 hour slave shift for the megacorporation you are too tired to do anythign realonly slop
New Order of the Sinking Star™ screenshot just dropped!
>>554889914Damn Boku. Way to up your graphical style!
>>554889707he's visual scriptingjava?whatever happened to 14 years at blizzard hackerman?
>>554890092You haters kept making fun of his code, now he has to switch to visual scripting.
>>554885834What did the devs do to you?
>>554889914New article about it, too.https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2026-01-22/jonathan-blow-a-controversial-video-game-designer-returns-with-a-new-game>“Reading this, I knew you had pronouns in bio before looking,” he wrote in one response on X.>In 2017, he implied that women were biologically inclined to be less interested in programming than men. Last February, he called President Donald Trump “the best President we have had in my entire life, by far,” and he has referred to covid vaccines as “an experimental treatment.”Apparently, all 3 devs who made the free games OotSS is based on now hate Blow for being a chud.
>>554889914Looks cool.
>>554890543>3 devs who made the free games OotSS is based on???
>>554890698OotSS is based on a couple of free games made by 3 devs and they all hate Jonathan Blow for being a chud
>>554890543Jonathan Blow is a good programmer and potentially a director/designer but he really should stay out of writing
>>554890698>Jonah Ostroffhttps://sites.math.washington.edu/~ostroff/puzzles/Heroes_of_Sokoban.htmlhttps://sites.math.washington.edu/~ostroff/puzzles/Heroes_of_Sokoban_II_Monsters.htmlhttps://sites.math.washington.edu/~ostroff/puzzles/Heroes_of_Sokoban_III_The_Bard_and_The_Druid.html>Sean Barretthttps://silverspaceship.com/promesst/https://silverspaceship.com/promesst2/>Alan Hazelden (Draknek)https://alan.draknek.org/games/puzzlescript/mirrors.phphttps://alan.draknek.org/games/puzzlescript/skipping-stones.php
>>554890782>OotSS is based on a couple of free gameslike directly? has jon said "I based this game on [that game]"?article you posted is locked btw cant read without paying
>>554891121>like directly?Yes. The mechanics, level design, and, in 2 cases, names, are taken directly out of them.>article you posted is locked btw cant read without payingYou aren't replying to me, but try this:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2026-01-22/jonathan-blow-a-controversial-video-game-designer-returns-with-a-new-game?accessToken=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJzb3VyY2UiOiJTdWJzY3JpYmVyR2lmdGVkQXJ0aWNsZSIsImlhdCI6MTc2OTExNzQ0NCwiZXhwIjoxNzY5NzIyMjQ0LCJhcnRpY2xlSWQiOiJUOUFCUTFLSUpIOTQwMCIsImJjb25uZWN0SWQiOiJCMUVBQkI5NjQ2QUM0REZFQTJBRkI4MjI1MzgyQTJFQSJ9.lCeF7lN0LwTVYvwcCj-Aopgnc3F8154obfddKngFO1g&leadSource=uverify%20wall
>>554890543this will forever be Blow's true legacyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSXofLK5hFQ
>>554890543I just bought 3 copies
>>554891296>liciensing gameplayreally? could he get in trouble if had just copied(obviously not the same names-type stuff that can be changed but who cares about that)
>>554889707There's something surreal about seeing these guys who were destined to be radio jockeys end up like this.
>>554890092Visual scripting is the future. It adequately covers all layers of abstraction. Writing code is actually corny and archaic if you think about it.
>>554892063visual scripting is great at tricking ignorant users into thinking they can do something usefulfor anyone else, its awful
>>554892063he's already using oop as it is like is visual scripting oop for people who can't rotate the apple?
Thor is currently inspiring the next generation of programmers in the new paradigm of the future.
I feel when (you) make progress posts
I'm going to ask a very genuine question and I'm sorry if some schizo's get mad but I feel like it's a good discussion topic.There's been a lot of controversy about /v/3 wanting to supposedly distance themselves from 4chan connections (or at least in a way that doesn't immediately turn away people) but we've also had a fair share of devs here that stop associating with /agdg/ and 4chan as a whole due to publisher deals or whatnot.What is it about this place that keeps people from wanting to ever acknowledge they got their start here? I understand the neogina spammer and the off topic drama are a deterrent but it feels like /agdg/ has become this place that no one wants to credit for their beginnings and it baffles me when I hear devs say "I don't want the 4chan connection" because unfortunately by posting here, you have a connection. Simple as. The Internet is forever.So realistically, why are publishers so scared of 4chan, or is it a bunch of devs projecting when in reality it's not as harmful as you think. Saying "yeah I've posted my game on 4chan" is no different than posting it on a subr*ddit. Both sites have their tame sections and some more unsightly sections so realistically what's the difference?
>>554891897I know what you mean. His career would have probably worked better as someone who makes motivational/ information slop on YouTube.He is good at telling stories but his father pulled him into video games.
>>554892256>there's a problem in the block at line 167>the what?>at the line>what do you mean? can you give me a coordinate? or like color>what?>what?
>>554892158Maybe. Peak competence with it actually comes from being used to writing code though. All it is is a way to quickly prompt suggestions for appropriate methods and API functions and stuff, which is less intuitive for anyone who hasn't learned programming.
>>554892436It's got nothing to do with that it's his dad never being around because he worked at Blizzard so he became a furry NPD groomer, he would easily have been at the top of streaming if his narcissism wasn't as debilitating as it is
>>554892410>There's been a lot of controversy about /v/3 wa-
joshua won
>>554892436Games are way more intellectually stimulating and healthy, it's good that he didn't just end up another political commentator trying to rope in fatherless youth. As for his narcissistic tendencies causing him problems, it all seemed relatively mild and another case of an autistic person falling into the normie meat grinder. Glad he didn't give up.
>>554892785peak tranny post
>>554892929>As for his narcissistic tendencies causing him problems, it all seemed relatively mildgoogle Maldavius Figtree and have a read at the farms
>>554892660>he would easily have been at the top of streamingThat could be a bad thing, terrible even. Instead he has been forced to build a walled garden for himself and for some people that's really the best outcome.
something BIG is coming...
what movie should i watch instead of devving
>>554893049No I'm scared.
>>554893206American Gangster
Me distancing from 4chan.
is it interacter or interactor (the guy that interacted with something)
>>554892410You're only allowed to associate with heckin' wholesome quirk chungus sites like Reddit
>>554893239oh yeah I forgot he implied Mr Robot was actually based on him
>>554892834A trip to the mental hospital? Yeah. It's been pretty nice lately. Based UK case workers saved us.
Are you a beginner tutorial dev like me? I'm making a rpg as my first game, following various tutorials.
It's because suits are fagsIf you want the fag money you have to behave like a fagSimple asFall in line or get left behind
>>554893569maybe depends on the type of gameif youre making a cozy farming slop the tranny audience isnt going to like it that youre a 4chud and will try to sabotage your game
>>554893672No one I know that made it started with tutorials they all made daily goals and after they were done experimented with it to see what else they could do
>>554893805>No one I know that made it started with tutorialsDo your tutorials weirdo. Ain't nobody believing your cope.
>>554893672Once I realized I was smarter than half the people making tutorials I stopped watching them
is it safe to talk about haunted chocolatier without neo vadjes popping up?
>>554894173Yes see >>554893671Josh is literally in a mental hospital right now he said he was getting an emergency evaluation a while ago and it appears to have happened. There won't be any more of that nasty shit here for a while if ever again. I wouldn't be surprised if they got his ISP to hand over some info and he's not coming back lol His computer is probably in an evidence locker now.
>>554894358the world is healing
>>554894096Are you doing anything transformative with them? You have to learn systems level thinking and know enough that you have a reasonable idea how to untangle yourself out of your own problems and then be able to set up a pipeline/workflow. Otherwise you will be stuck in one environment forever and be unable to cooperate with anyone else, perhaps more importantly you won't get into the mindset of optimizing your output. All of these are competitive skillsets that you can't afford to live without.
now if only the e-celeb nigger would have the internet in his jeetnigger village cut off and /agdg/ could finally go back to normal
>>554894681Who are you referring to? An eceleb that posts here or somebody who's obsessed with ecelebs that posts here?
>>554894681Silence 'droYou're next.
>>554894358i'm still here, i had the eval, either they are going to put me in a 3 year help plan or ill go back to some other mental health team, also like i said i only posted the neogina once
unc nostalgic forum dwellers upset that we're in an attention-economy and are unwilling to adaptyour political leaders will be recording tiktoks of their looksmaxxing routine 5 years from now
>>554894505Do official tutorials for software, it always exists, then read and refer to documentation. Not every tutorial is a youtube video from some kid with a webcam mic, it's just structured lessons.Real developers do tutorials. People with learning disabilities do not.
>>554894894>An eceleb that posts here or somebody who's obsessed with ecelebs that posts here?the latter
I really want to make a game that autoplays like conway game of life.
>>554895001
>>554895115but it already autoplays
>>554891871I don't know, but he probably wanted to be fair to the developers who made the games he liked.
>>554895115make an idle game out of it
>>554895115i also enjoy games that play themselves or at least let you just observe, like paradox games
>stuck between making cool game that would take a lot of work, and unique friendslop game that i could get a prototype of done in a week
>>554894173Sure but this isn't the stardew valley general so why would you?
>>554895335use your friendslop to fund your cool game
GTA MMO where you can be anything
>>554895514ABP reloaded, but it's trash and the devs are trash faggots
>>554895204Just focus on getting better, anon. I hope everything works out for you.
chiekn game
E = mc2 + AI
>>554895514You should make Indian GTA, there's no crime meter only Izzat, there are no missions only npcs with Izzat meters of their own
>>554895692ill be good, thanks though
>>554895436probably worth a shot. hows this for a friendslop idea:>rally race against time>2-3 players required>one player controls the cars acceleration/braking>one controls the steering wheel>third optional player navigates
>>554895995sounds a little fast paced for coordination, maybe something where steering, accelerating and deaccelerating is more gradual to give it the breathing room necessary feam-building exercise bonding?
This might be an unpopular opinion but I think deltarune is kinda mid honestlydont @ me
>>554895995how abouthuman centaurpede combatyou and up to 2 friends are a human centaurpede, a horrific nightmare of science. player 1 controls the legs, responsible for movement. player 2 controls the front upper body and can fight. player 3 is the tail and does foot kicks. it uses DAZ-tier models and fucked up animations like that one medieval combat meme game
Undertale was a breath of fresh air at the time, Deltarune is mostly fanwank
>>554895001I like my lore better.
>>554895719Stop goofing around. This is a business.
>>554887831I might have seen this before it's still really good. I like whenever he tells people to stop seething about Steam.
>>554896573
>>554896482I know nothing about Deltarune. I heard about it for 10 years, I see gift cards for it at Walmart (no idea what that's about). I haven't seen or heard anything about it. It's bizarre because I couldn't help be end up seeing playthroughs of Undertale.I heard Undertale was a "homestuck" community thing. I also know nothing about that and yet I know the trivia. The internet did this to me.
>>554887197>No one who starts a business has time for gym bro, they spend the first 3 months doing 10-12 hours every day,Looks like someone's fallen for the CEO grindset bullshit.No one works for 10-12 hours a day unless their work is being a receptionist or a night watchman or something where your job consists mostly of being present.
>>554897438a zoomerCEO spends a great deal of time networking and workshopping business ventures, that is to say get blasted with the bros on meth and cocaine
>>554897438No he's right, those guys are lazy af. Too relaxed. That's the only way you end up starting and cancelling 10 games in a single year. They're either smoking crack or they're just not serious.
>>554897438Work involves responding to emails, coordinating people, making plans or presentations for your teammate, reviewing code, refactoring, rigging models you bought from the marketplace, setting up a remote build machine for your project and whatever. I've worked 11 hours a day before. You don't do 11 hours non-stop of code of course, but you still do stuff that's work-adjacent instead of relaxing or personal hobbies.
>>554897649>not working an unrealistic and unproductive amount of time>lazy afBesides, they released 3 games last year. The games flopped but that's a different matter.
>>554897849>You don't do 11 hours non-stop of code of course, but you still do stuff that's work-adjacent instead of relaxing or personal hobbies.youre fucking retarded if you do this shit regularlyif i have to work more than 8 hours on a particular day im taking those hours back some other day and leaving early
>>554897849>Work involves responding to emails, coordinating people, making plans or presentations for your teammate, reviewing code, refactoring, rigging models you bought from the marketplace, setting up a remote build machine for your project and whatever.So around 3-4 hours of productive work?
>>554897965>they released 3 games last yearThose games were made in 2024 though right. So 2025 was basically a disaster.
Two walking sims and a desktop app.https://store.steampowered.com/developer/bitemegames
>>554898164For someone else? Sure. But it's your own company we're talking about here. Gotta break some eggs if you want your omelette. >>554898186Yes, get those 3-4 hours out of your system in the morning and then spend the day doing low cognitive work such as filling out spreadsheets and timetables, which don't feel very productive but are still very necessary if you're building a company.
Just think what position biteme would be in without their youtube channel. Their games would have 3 reviews. You could say the same for most youtube gamedevs obviously but that's not the point, they should be striving to make at least one game a year that is legitimately standalone quality. Instead they pipedream and cancel 8 games?
>>554898580I don't know where you got this notion that>filling out spreadsheets and timetables>responding to emails, making plansis something that a gamedev would be doing on a daily basis for hours. I have a company and the only time I use spreadsheets is for logging income and expenses which is like 5 minutes a day and includes personal expenses like groceries. The only thing that could take hours a day is marketing but even that, once you set up your accounts, is making a few posts a week and engaging with people which is also a couple of hours a week at most. I've ran advertising campaigns and even that doesn't take more than an hour a week (money is the bottleneck there).Now once one of your games makes it and you hire people and start getting offers from publishers, that's different but until then there's little to do but work directly on your game and you're not doing that for 10-12 hours a day, not producitvely.
>>554887027Thanks but the :: Whatever :: part has to be the first part of the post... I made it that way so it doesn't confuse posts that mention the format with an actual progress post. I'm not sure... I could reverse that.
>>554885039>>554864668>What's your plan to improveMy goal is definitely not to improve or make anything professional. Its going to be a slap up of genre's i like and go up for free on f95 zone.In this case im mixing my love for spread sheet simulators and shit x games on f95 zone. I'm considering making this a scripted game and not a sandbox. Each level would be progressively bigger/more planets with pre generated enemy nations. If your nation prevails and conquers the capitols you get lewd scenes and you get to either recruit or enslave enemy commanders. Then the story progresses between the missions.
>>554864668>>554899647Nice, it's kind of open season in that genre of games especially if it has multiplayer as long as it has similar levels of customization.
>Maid Cafe Sim is 80% complete >let's cancel 6 months of progress because we're too lazy to learn how to model 3D food
>>554899647>Dominions but porn game Holy moly now that's my kind of autism. Godspeed fella. >>554900041>multiplayer >in a porn game Anon...
>>554900542I said what I said, the goonerton window has shifted with the arrival of Gacha, VRChat and GTARP that the public will be able to handle it
>>554864668>Sexy DominionsDaring Synthesis
How long is he gonna have to lay low and not use twitter for people to forget and not barrage him with shit about the white house ordeal?
>>554901217Imagine all the deranged troons in his DMs begging him to make a statement
>>554901402why does he wear the same thing all the time?
>>554901642autism
tick tock....the trvke will be dropped near release...
>>554901217Wouldn't it be easier and more beneficial to just reply with some kind "I would rather not give it any attention"? People would still interpret it as him showing disapproval but in reality he would just be maintaining his neutral do not get involved stance
I have achieved so little today that charging my phone and watching the number go up to 100% feels satisfying
>>554902137your ancestors
my mind completely changed since i 100% gave up on the idea of programming for money. now it's either my own project or nothing.if i need money i get a part-time job and live ascetic or i get welfare.it's perverted to turn a passion into a normal job. it's self-exploitation.
>>554901881Silence is violence.
>>554901738What a sniveling little cunt. It's not like Eric was saying ch*nk or g**k though the window
i say that
>>554902230I'm sure most of them were as lazy as they could get away with.
>>554902771yeah but you're the chosen one who is alive, how many relatives are you dragging around who wish to see you succeed
>>554900250Seriously it doesn't make sense. And then he does a livestream critiquing everyones games lol. It's like shouldn't you be trying to fix this issue where you don't have any modelers and don't know how to model anything? How many games did they 'cancel' for this reason? No interest in solving the issue at all. It's all fake.
Ahem.Not my problem that you gave up.Not my problem that you are depressed.Not my problem that you have shit beliefs.Not my problem that you believe in things that don't work.Not my problem that you hate truth and prefer to be a stubborn idiot.Not my problem that you constantly shoot yourself in the foot.Not my problem that you don't have the capability to learn from mistakes.Not my problem if you feel extremely bad because of all those things.Thank you for your attention.
>>554902137We are living the dream friend. I'll be playing some vidya until sleepy then hop in bed and grab my phone, start browsing the net while watching some TV and it just hits me, this is the future. It's not bad.
It's incredible how much better my life would be and how much more my situation would improve if I just finished my game, yet I still find myself procrastinating. Why you piece of shit body, why can't you just lock in?
>>554903134Why would I want to read a huge list of things that aren't your problem.Didn't read. >Thank you for your attention.Denied.
>>554903368>bodykek come on, is this a bait post?
>>554903368Lock out. And then study dopamine management and time management. Then lock in. Then when you feel like taking a break, lock out again. Stop being 24/7 in the "I need to make it" mindset and you will have more "I'm gonna make it" moments which are what keep you above water.
i noticed that it's easier to allow myself grinding to gamedev success than painfully trying to normify myself into a job i hate.
>>554887197Their biggest issue is their refusal to onboard an artist. The lack of an artist killed their most promising project.It just baffles me.
I just realized Source 2 hammer has the same block out behavior. Great minds think alike I guess.
somehow the longer i work on my project the more time pressure i feel. i don't know what's the psychological mechanism behind this.i also notice this when playing management games, that at first i'm just chill but the longer i play, the more time-efficient i want to become, until it stresses me out to a degree i can't handle anymore.
>>554903932as long as you have the option to sustain your life with a computer and food, why not?
zim is mine nobody else can use it.
>>554904250i start to think of waging as some superior force that forces you to fit in to make money and survive, otherwise you die. but it's one thing to rant about it and do it because you have to, and another thing to intentionally want to fit in because you think it'll fix your life.if someone forces me to eat shit to survive and he's just too strong for me, i have to do it.but trying to make myself love eating shit in order to have an easier time eating shit is just fucked in the head.
>>554904541then your not a desperate thridie, with your perks in life comes some responsibility don't you think?
>>5548924104chan has a political connotation to outsiders, right now it's that you are a /pol/ psycho. I don't think people are ready to defend themselves against: "Why are you part of a community that is Racist, Sexist, Fascist, etc". Even though the same can technically be said about citter and reddit
Me locking tf in
>>554905050fucking hell. Notch doubled in size
>>554902230
>>554902997when people die they stop existing, and as a consequence, stop giving a shit
>>554905515might as well top yourself then huh?
Are there altenative representations to view a spatial relationship between characters besides a 2D grid?
>>554905553if there's some kind of afterlife, especially one where you exist in eternal bliss next to god, then what does it matter what you achieve in life? even the greatest of human achievements would be petty and irrelevant so I imagine my ancestors wouldn't care if I were a fantastically successful game developer or stocking shelves at walmart, both lives would be identical from the viewpoint of eternal bliss
>>554906226If you are a successful game developer then you probably aren't going to heaven anyway.
https://youtu.be/XCgJ3T-_1oE?t=158fatfuck jabencunt
Who?
>>554906226i like to think of them as not in heaven living it large, but tormented and dragged along to observe against their will, knowing they are no longer alive or have agency.
Looking at the top 30 games on AGDG list, there's more success stories AFTER 2020 than before it, so why is everyone crying about the industry? It's better than it ever was, and definitely better than back in Hopoo's era.
>>>/v/731412507>>>/v/731412507>>>/v/731412507New thread
Why do a JRPG have to look like a normal JRPG?Why cant It look like a non videogame like MapGIS?
>>554907459>v3 post 40 seconds after the thread was made Motherfuckers, it was them spamming the threads daily on /v/ all along? Fucking hell.
>>554907819>>554907819>>554907819
if you're jarpig has the characters on the left then it looks inauthentic unless it's a mario game
>>554907817(1) Thread has /v/3 as a immediate reply>It must be my MORTAL ENEMY all along!Betz confirmed it was his thread in the v3cord but said he doesn't make them usually.
>>554908234Sure buddy, "it only happened once I swear".
