Finger Friend Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/01-30-2026-update.102822/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>556735692
>your haze goes 1/10/3 and can't hit sleep daggers>their haze is a hacker that gets banned after two days
>yet to break ritualist 3 since starting in september>rank shuffling puts me in emissary>win 2 games>now archon 2????I'm not built for the movement here take me back.
>>556763671>hollidaywhy? ive played her and seen her played a few times and she seems incredibly straight forward, not really that obnoxious
Do you guys actually like the farming aspect of the game or is it a necessary evil for other "more fun" aspects of the game to exist? (Builds, objectives, lane pressuring, etc)I've played league for like 10 years and farming has always been the most boring part of it, "denying" farm makes it a tad less boring but also makes it more annoying imo
https://youtu.be/zWsgekghoLI?si=3iAb4prWDu36DXqR
>>556763709For me its>play in a stack with friends who are significantly lower rank>lose but never actually drank>sometimes we win and I rank upYoshi works in mysterious ways
>>556763909There needs to be different kind of jungle, objectives and urn rework. I'm fine with farming, doesn't take too long to get up to speed or get fed but they can make it more engaging than what's on the plate right now.
>>556763864I never see her and people hate her ult
>have like 10 heroes and venator in rotation>get venator like 80% of my gamesno hes not favoriteddoes nobody wnat to play this guy?
so, we all know cosmetics and lootboxes are coming at some point, but in which way will they be implemented?will they do like in tf2 and dota where they add individual items and sets which you can mix and match, or will they add character and weapon skins like they did in CS?
>>556763909I like pushing waves. Jungle needs more diversity. Enemy types, hazards, buffs and debuffs etc.
22 hours and 27 minutes until APOLLO
>>556764210Who are you most played/highest skill rating heroes
Why did a unicorn decide to disguise as a prostitute?
Weird how Celeste was my lowest priority this patch but might end up becoming my most played of the new set.
>>556764423so she could fuck as many human men as possible
>>556763909all i know is boxes are lame as fuck.
>>55676426122 hours and 25 minutes until apolloCHUDS are BTFO and supportCHADS win BIGLY
>>556764331paige
>>556764423>Unicorns get caught and hunted because they always hide as the most obvious virgins (nuns, school girls, librarian)>Celeste evades unicorn hunters by looking like a whore and dancing half naked for money>no one would suspect she's a virgin unicornGenuis really
i know there is a "give me me more serious matches" matchmaking option but is there a "put the 4/18 venator on the other team" matchmaking option
>placed in low priority for afking and leaving>need 1 required win>time to get into match is a little longer than usual>play the most disgusting stomp of my life, lane partner and I don't die once, almost 100k soul diff by the endwas that supposed to be a punishment?
>>556763909farming needs to exist so that things actually happen on the map, otherwise you need to sit and wait for urn before either team would have a reason to interact
why are there so many fags on this game
>most insane items I've ever gotten in brawl>can't do anything because of unplayable lagif your fucking servers can't support 100k+ people playing right now then stop fucking inviting people or alternatively stop hiring jeet coders
Any really good movement guide video?
>>556764881>Valve game>Free to play>Cast of wacky quirk chungus characters
After playing 300 games of Brawl, I can conclude that 90% of the roster is useless. I can look at the draft and know which side wins with 90% accuracy, with the 10% being the players that have literally never touched that hero before.
>>556764881Sorry.. I just find the game to be really fun..
>>556763438>>556753151>>556752979>"if there's an opportunity to get a lead">oh so this must mean you should overforce, play like shit and get yourself killed! lol you suck!!!Genuine subhuman retards, too stupid to live.
What do you guys think of my Venator build?
>>556765284>my Venator buildthis is just a standard m1gger build thoughdoughloughbeight
>>556765186underrated ship
>hear the the sound of Rem's ult starting>"we're saved!">can't run or dash>it was the enemy Sinclair
>>556765094Some are saying this...
>>556765284>lash insisting on fighting a gun character in a small room
Apollo bros, our time is now.
>>556765186Make yourself useful and blow me.
just shitstomped a vyper + lash lanei will now have sex with his stalker to assert my dominance
>>556765452why is calico d tier
>>556765452>mina in SShe literally has the lowest Brawl winrate>inb4 blaming it all on first timers
>>556765452>sinclair d tier????
>>556765563idk I've literally never seen her once and didn't feel like making a separate categorysheboons must be wildly unpopular to play
>>556765284extremely terrible build, i am sorry.
>>556765284If you're going to max 1 and get extra charge I don't know why you wouldn't get Recharging Rush at the minimum and also probably Ballistic EnchantmentI don't like Intensifying because all the damage is going to fall off during ult.
>>556764881competitive game with strong character designs and good art direction attracts people who "identify" with fictional women
>>556765559just shitstomped a vyper + billy lanei will now have sex with the goat to assert my dominance
is it dumb that part of me is hoping Celeste is a support hero just so I can focus on playing her and not having to learn farming patterns? I yearn for my Position 4 days where I got to kill people and roam while not having to play strictly supportbitch heroes
>>556765505I'm not an Apollobro I just don't want Celeste to win
>>556765452>Fern, geist, bebop and lash>B tierYeah these guys are delusional.
>>556765762Her 2 gives a single target damage reflecting barrier apparently, so I'm sure you can build her support-y to some extent, she just won't be Paige/Rem tier where she can support an entire team.
>torment pulse + exposure kelvin
>>556764979Lief
>>556765692I got both of those in that game. Rapid is great. More nades and more traps. Honestly, I feel kinda mixed on Ballistic Enchantment. I'll have to play with it more I'm wondering if superior duration might be good on Ven. Makes your traps last forever, your burn and stun last longer, and you can be more patient with your ult. And if you have Ballistic Enchantment your buff will last longer
Flopping tranny deadcock.
If I get another brawl match with Rem and Graves on the other team I'm going to shit myself.
>>556765628He's the hero that requires the highest IQ to perform.
>>556766124you dont like perma grave stones? spawning the most annoying creep you could think of?
>>556765526I don't remember Abrams saying that..
>>556765186I really like the way Abrams and Dynamo talk to each other. They seem like good friends.
>>556765934>so I'm sure you can build her support-y to some extentoh i dont really care about building her support, I just mean I want to be able to do fun shit on her without feeling the pressure that a hard carry like wraith or mina would
>>556766150I dont think that's how tier lists work man. You gotta put the tier based on someone with competency playing it
>>556765965Chat, is this good?
>>556764881hot men and hot women
>>556766150in that mode it just comes down to constantly stealing dynamo and graves ult
>>556765762>>556766290Her kit is>fire breath>single target barrier, has some kind of damage reflection gimmick>skill shot that bounces between enemies>channeled area damage ult like sevenSo she sounds like mid-back line spirit damage, not a hyper carry.
>>556765186>not abrams and venator
Venator hard counters silver pretty funny
>rem runs off to steal all the sinners on the mapkey or locked?
>>556766282It's really wholesome and makes me feel warm inside, Dynamo in general is cute with how he talks about his wife and all.>>556766583Is this better?
>>556766714keyed
How do I build graves? I have been trying active reload + toxic and getting sup. stamina + arcane surge but idk if theres better gun items for her
we have you now :D
>>556766761ok you asked for it
>>556765452>Dynamo C tier in BrawlNo one is saying this.
>>556766774Gun graves is a late game pivot stop building her like an m1 from the start god.
It's weird we still dont have a nature themed hero.
>>556763909I'm 100% ricer
>>556766890well i get stuff like Duration/CD too but having zero gun in midgame at all feels really shit idk do you suggest dropping active reload or toxic?
>>556766748>Is this better?yea
>>556766714i only steal them if nobodies around on the side lane while they're having a brool on the other side
Warp stone or Phantom srike on silver?
>>556767028Good, that's my quota for this thread anyway I'll post more dumb gayshit in the next one I'm also tired I need rest so I can play more games tomorrow
>>556766150I've never played sinclair before and I have won every single brawl with him.You just max ult and fucking steal the biggest impact ult on the enemy team, except you get to use it 2-3 times before theirs come up.Bonus points for him being able to use long cooldown ults before the enemy even has them available.
>>556765284>Extra charge instead of the orange charge itemForgivable>armors on shit health poolLess forgivable >glass cannon on shit health poolUnforgivable
>my rank is actually changingdeadlock is healing...
I need a beautiful girl(failure) to play Deadlock with me also Ivy is the hottest girl in the game.
>>556767025Recharging Rush + Tesla. Get toxic a bit later. It's not as useful early due to how close you need to be. If shit's that close you need them dead fast or you die. Exception is high healing match ups.
>>556766069Ballistic gives a ton of weapon damage to make followup nades and ult better, also the range is great. I don't think duration is worth it because he doesn't get anything substantive out of spirit and he can use the souls and slot to much greater effect Hopefully the spirit resist scaling he has going on gets buffed because it may as well not exist right now
>>556765604As a mina picker who's shit on her but I still play because >mina cute I can confirm that her winrate is shit because people like me are shit.
>>556766918need a schizo druid from scotland or ireland expressing disgust at the modernized, industrial world of NYC.
>>556765604its not first timers, is just mina attract agp sissies who are actually support players at heart. so they tank her winrate.
why is cc so cancer in this game
why the fuck am I oracle, im not improving or even trying at all wtf is this
>>556763909i like box running somewhat but i think the neutral camps are too boring, they are just stationary circles with (almost) hitscan, same with midboss (but that one's actual hitscan)
>>556767687I went up two entire brackets this week. I'm scared to queue anything but brool right now.
>>556767302I feel like I could lose or win 8 in a row and only have a 50% chance of a rank change either way
>>556767681Cause there's fuckloads of it and the TTK is really low
damn I just got into high elo guys (alchemist 1)
>>556766918selecthero hero_druid
>>556767136Phantom Strike is bait.
why are Abrams players like this?
>>556767681Just pick counterspell, bro.
Instead of box running I wish that the collection stuff was more like literal Mario kart coins and pickups where you just walk over them
ivy's fun to play :D
>>556768019BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASED
>>556767224Yeah, when I made that post I thought the tier list was about the real game, not the Mario Kart battle mode.
>>556768053Shame shes ugly!
>>556768019peak size differencedrawfags get on it
>>556766918Boho was incinerated
if im playing holliday and I ult an enemy into my team, should I still jumppad-dash for the extra second even if it means that my teammates will lose that 1 second of proper aiming since theyre gonna be flying forward?
>>556768183she wasnt plant based she was a witch (doctor)
>>556768019How do you come back from this
>>556768272it depends if pulling the enemy 1 second further into your territory is advantageous or not in that specific situationif it means they survive instead of dying, then no
>>556768308Which doctor?
>turn brawl game around and kill everyone at the end>get thisSilver can be so funny to play as.
When watching a match, without ANY UI-related info(souls per minute, items purchased, etc) you can intuit what rank it is by the elevation that fights take place inGround level fights only and glued to lanes VS rooftop parkour acrobatics bullshit
>>556765505Old pic from Wednesday, I'm up to 60 votes on him by now. Movement heroes are the lifeblood of this game and I am doubtful Celeste has any sauce, so I am behind Apollo.
>>556768148she hasnt been for a while if you actually played the game
They should swap Grave's 1 and 4 summons1 - Summons X skeletons to attack whoever Graves is gunning or else they just wander to the nearest enemy4 - Skulls attack everyone in proximity to the grave stone, cant remove them without destroying the grave
>>556763438I'm thinking of getting in the game.What's its size?
>>556768148rude D:
>>556768019They never say this to ME
>>556768482
How do you get those weird new vertical health bars? I tried the citadel_unit_new or whatever thing in console and it did nothing
Street brool late game items are so fucking bugged NEVER PICK THE COMBO ITEM, YOU WONT GET IT
>>556768456i do and shes still an ugly creature, her voice is ok.>>556768502im sorry :(
>>556768019kek
I hope they keep Silver parrying by presenting her ass and give Seven something else
Darcy sucks off homeless guys in the back alleys of the cursed apple.
>Playing Venator in Brawl>3 enemies get enhanced plated armour
>>556768414OO EE OO AHH AHH TING TANG WALLA WALLA BING BANG
>>556768626late game brawl item picker is bugged as fuck no matter what. Sometimes it doesn't sell the item or gives you some completely random ass shit. or gets stuck empty and forces you to press skip or some other weird shit.But buying combo items with full inventory is 100% recipe for disaster.
idk if im going up in ranked and he isnt as good now or if it was nerfs but holy shit i cannot catch a win on victor. No idea how to win on him anymore
>>556768551Thanks, man, it's more than it should but less than I thought as modern vidya in geenral and GAAS in particualr are so bloated.
>>556768694>Darcy?
Is express shot on silver a meme?
>>556768694Stop projecting, Apollo
>>556768927graves first name
>>556768938it doesnt work in wolf form so yes
>>556768694even jokingly its weird as fuck to type this about a teenage girl, please stop
>>556768938it's fine for getting into form
>>556768881kek
>>556768694>>556769060graves does compensated dating for energy drinks and vape cartridges
>Silver werewolf form S1 is a bite that heals you for hitting enemies>It doesn't activate Healing Tempo's buff-on-heal effect>Abrams S1 is a zone that heals you for hitting enemies>Mo & Krill S1 is a swipe that heals you for hitting enemies>Both activate Healing Tempo's buff-on-heal effectIs this a bug or what
>>556768938Its actually good.
>>556769060She curls her tongue around homeless man smegma and chews on it before using her necromantic powers to revive it into undead sperm and swallow it.
>>556769351>>556768938>>556769012>>556769101it's garbage and a waste of 3200just buy decay it's 100% better and applies anitheal too
I have about 2% more respect for Mina players since I realized I can't aim for shit while playing her for some reason.
if im playing a hardcarry and im hyperfarming after lane and a fight breaks out on the other side of the map is it my fault for not being there as the highest net worth player if my team loses that fight or should that fight not have even been taken in the first place
>>556769618not with that double blink
>>556769559why decay over torment pulse, torment pulse helps her farming
>archon>emisary>archon>emisaryI should stop trying out new heroes and pick a pool already.
>>556766150sinclair is a stupid persons idea of a high iq character
>>556769694you dont need to farm on her really, just hit sinners and invade to hit more sinners. I dont even buy monster rounds you just take over their map spacetorment doesnt help you proc wolf form from a distance either
>>556769618mina players redeemed after graves that dont even need to aim
Gooned to Mina more times than I can count
>>556769910cute art!
>>556766890Nah her 1 is worthless and her ult doesnt need investment, gun is the way
>>556769656Depends on the game state but 90% of the time you should be focusing on farming. If your team flames you for not taking bad brooling fights mute em all and continue power farming until your big powerspike.The only exceptions I'd argue are earlyish midbosses for obvious reasons.
>>556769060this is your sign to fuck off back to r*ddit
>>556768437ive played her one time in brawl and when you figure it out a bit youre basically in ult 24/7 and can shred their backlineits honestly pretty stupid
>>556765452>Sinclair that lowThere's always going to be someone abusing characters with busted ults in street brawl and Sinclair takes those characters and spams their ults with a much shorter cooldown
>>556769910vamps and succubi are just such a peak archetype
Will we ever have designs as unique as the initial set again?there's a certain charm to "Sci-Fi character rejiggered into Occult Noir" that is missing from the latest batches
i was alchemist 3 yoshi... yoshi... wtf
>>556770016epstein is dead, you lost
>>556769760you should stop worrying about rank and enjoy the gameplay whats fun to you and youll get better anyway
>>556768938Yes, express shot is for burst fire guns to cope with being unable to get firerateWith silver you can simply get firerate
>>556770162that was epic bro
>>556770103im archon 5 now
>>556763438is there a visual indicator for when someone is in execute range for Shiv ult?
Bros I'm kinda new and my fav heroes are gun heroes, tell me is it normal in high elo for people to roll to the sides just to slide for max ammo during engagements to get a few extra shots off before having to reload = more dps or is that not optimal and slide shooting is more just a small bonus during engaging and fleeing than something you're supposed to regularly abuse?
If you play graves and dont build lightning scroll you deserve to be shot.
>>556770364>caring about graves ult at allALCHEMIST DETECTED
>>556770364That seems a bit dramatic.
they should just make everyone start at initiate
>>556770356yes
>>556770287they glow red
>>556770287your reticle is red
>>556770075No, in fact they will touch up a lot of the old characters to make them look more in line with the new ones.
>>556770484this would just make initiate smurf centralpeople smurf a lot already
>>556770412You throw that shit near a teamfight or objective and basically guarantee stuns.
>>556766364torment pulse is lowkey always good, its another nuke for your hero and it procs all spirit damage items + gives you more reason to get superior cooldown
reminder that ranks are a memeascendent/lower eternus might as well be emissary/archon, full of retards and mm terrorists
>>556770412graves ult is the only good part of her kit ritualist-kun
>>556770653Delayed stuns that dont matter against only retards that let themselves get hit yes. Maxing wall is way better you have control of where they get stunned and is less conditional
>>556770487yes people do side roll just for the extra ammo?
>>556770831Well yeah no shit you max wall dumbass.
>>556770807>infernus playerdie
>>556770840yesand forwardand backwardand down slopes
>>556770840You should be roll shooting whenever possible yes.
>>556770356thats almost the entire point of vyper
>>556770840*slideall the time, fleetfoot and burst fire let you slide more
how many deaths can someone have in lane before you just throw your hands up and accept defeat? 5? 6? 7? 8+?
please please PLEASE keep nerfing bebop! hes just TOO good!
>>556770872I'm not spending 6400 on a conditional delayed stun without even investing into tombstone, that's retarded. Just buy gun and defensive items
>>556770953like 6 7
>>556770953laning doesnt really matter that much especially in lower ranks as people dont know how to push the advantage anyway
>>556770953if theyre like 0-2 and giving me nothing i go boxesif theyre 0-5 but im like 5-0 then thats fine as long as they dont start slurping my farm the instant lane is done
>>556770936yeah but not a huge fan of her desuSo far I've been doing warden wo sliding around just for ammo, it just feels goofy, hard to get used to
>>556770356Its useful tech but vastly overrated, you have people that never get ammo or reload items and say "just slide bro" which is retarded
>>556764120Tbh Urn is perfect as a ctf mini objective. They should just add more.
>>556771153nah laning matters a lot and not just for the huge momentum (low rank players dont know how to punish over aggression and just passively jungle till they lose)but also because it shows you how braindead your teammate is it's gonna be a 5v6
>>556770953idk but all but 1 of my lane partners were fucking terrible today>billy with a pocket>big big BIG pussy 0 dives with me>venator cant shoot 0/6 in lane>giest cant aim and do 1 hit on a 1hp dynamo warden I left with as bop 0/7/2 in lane>billy with yam>same as the pocket big big BIG pussy the only good one was with a abrams when I was playing graves. I didnt want to dive with him but being a GOOD player I followed up on his big dick plays
Do you think they'll ever add a slider to each hero to indicate whether they're aim-focused and spell-focused? Somewhat like a difficulty rating in League/Dota, like Haze being all on aim, Mo&Krill being all on spellcasting and Seven somewhere in the middle.
Valve, hire this man. Or just steal his idea idchttps://youtu.be/K-rBDqrTnSY?si=2W28t79WgD__8ziW
Open beta 2030 minimum. Trust the plan. Full release in 2078. Trust Valve.
>>556771229I find it much easier to land headshots consistently when I'm walking vs sliding around, so idk how much I wanna go into sliding nonstop especially post reload items
viscous is so funny
my games are significantly worse after that matchmaking reshuffle than pushed everyone up a tier
Celeste is pure sex
>>556771495There already is a default build for each hero but I don't think Valve will railroad people into gun/spirit, it's not really their style.The indicator for beginner friendly heroes definitely needs to come back though, especially as the roster grows.
>>556771601i was ready to shit on this, but that's actually a cool idea
I'm just trying to get out of Emissary man and I have to put up with this shit in every game
>>556771802Just perform well and hope that the rank resets bump you up
>>556771734>but I don't think Valve will railroad people into gun/spirit, they already did
>>556771664>look i killed someone with 4k less souls than me!wow impressive good job anon!
>>556771601this would be insane, it would just mean whoever picks up the urn wins because you cant fucking catch it
I miss solo lanes so much
>>556770807true>>556770916true
>>556771665turn on extra competitive, people say its placebo but if you are in pisslow like me you are less likely to get senior citizens on their first day on a PC
>>556771601that's pretty funny, add some baseball mechanics when meleeing it for maximum chaosBut it would be a balancing nightmare since whoever catches it would deliver the urn in 5 seconds
>>556771802this happens from initiate to eternus.
>>556769910how do I carry as Mina? and i'm asking legitimately, I understand she's a strong character but I always seem to get blown up before I can do anything
>>5567719894k souls isn't a lot and he had 5k unspent, and you're either ignoring or too stupid to see the whole point of the clip was to show him controlling sinclair's trajectory with goo punches
>>556771734they already did that with the item update 10 months ago no reason to mix it up anymore
>>556771989thanks anon i'll make sure to only clip things that you approve of from now on
did they boost everyone's rank again today?i didn't do anything and i went up one rank from yesterday.
>>556772164You snowball from lane which you're supposed to win and keep that momentum, but yeah she's a bit of a win lane lose game char, and her ult is shit imo, but winning Minas stomp lane so hard they use it to terrorize and shit on their lake opponents anywhere they might be
>>556772164>win lane>roam to other lanes to win their lane>steal enemy jungle/kill enemy farming their jungle>dont ever die and throw your lead>be a disruptor in team fights, you arent designed for damage, you are designed to single targets and annoy them/silence them
how dogshit are mina playershow are you asc being this fucking bad at the literal singular best laner in the game
is pocket good
>paradox bebop laneThere are fates worse than death
>>556772484you have literally no hp so even the smallest mistake means you die and it gets worse the higher in rank you go.
>>556772596hes in a bit of a rough spot right now, not much of a reason to play him unless you really enjoy playing him
curse on silver is pretty good, thanks for the suggestion!
why don't haze players buy this
>>556772643>even the smallest mistake means you dieOh yeah except you being able to turn invulnerable and move across the entire laneLike wtf lmao
>>556772758because 80% of her damage is fixation not gun
>>556772797so? Plenty of cc in this game to prevent that or catch
gonna be honest guys, im having fun with Holliday, just jumping around dropping bombs on peoplei am noticing for some reason my jump pad doesn't have as much forward velocity as videos I watch, what's with that? they'll be flung forward and going around corners and shit while im just kind of perpetually going forward
>>556772758her damage comes from her passive stacking up not actual weapon damage
>>556772643lying faggot mina is not hard at all
>>556772643>you have literally no hp so even the smallest mistake means you dieyou have the best escape in the entire game and rake healingkill yourself, ritualisttard
at least i know statistically which games im likely to win or lose
>>556772797>>556772949>>556772986Play her then.
>>556772949>>556772986you fags have never played Mina
>>556772896momentum inheritance
>>556772896you need to play csgo surf maps to fully master her
>enemy on yellow is already at 18k because of 17 deathsfix matchmaking
>>556772890Yeah and guess what, every single other character has to deal with that while being slower and not having a completely broken escape buttonEvery single Mina player is a retard who cant aim taking shit angles, holding down M1 and doing way too much fucking damage.Then devolves into riding the line and pressing R at someone and watching 70% of their HP disappear without any counterplayAND YET they constantly still because theyre still sot bad
>>55676891730gigs is fucking nothing today. Some games are like 100gigs. Tf2 is like 25 gigs or something
Celeste and Silver are hot, but we need some big milkers on the next batch of heroes
>>556773219>>556773209I have mina on my hero bar to get the new heroes. I literally won with melee mina yesterday cause gun is boring. Maxing rake to help finish off after a fat melee. Abusing her escape for mind games. Mina is braindead easy
Who is the most honest Deadlock hero?And why is it bebop?
>30 minutes in>Victor has a 16k lead because no one except for me has bought anti-heal>"Victor is such bullshit"The concept of counter building is foreign apparently
>>556773790but the build says
>>556773790Counter building is boring. I'd rather make myself strong enough not worry about it. Also, thats the support cucks job.
>>556773554So, what i'm reading here is>i got raped by mina player and my anus is on fire
>>556773790I had one just an hour ago where a teammate in the other sidelane typed, verbatim:>i hate that this game lets mfs get carried by their character and rank up even tho they suck. kill urselfto a mcginnis player, then abandon lane 4 minutes in allowing her to freefarmand he was playing fucking GRAVES
Why does Silver's gun have such a tight spreadIt has all the downsides of a rifle but with the limitations of a shotgun
>>556773790i would say 50% of this game player base are hero shooter retards and the concept of building just doesnt register with them, they just go build browser pick one of the top ones and built like a retard.
>>556773986I want Mina to finger my ass and jork me off.
>>556773524the only treatment available is street brawl. at least if you get shitters/smurfs the suffering will be over sooner. you can also abuse heroes like graves for easy wins
>>556772758Her weapon is more bursty than sustained
Imagine explaining to a new player that dashing forward in the air is a waste of their stamina.How do you even respond to the inevitable "thats fucking stupid"?
>>556773986>RapedMore like Raked
>>556774047The build browser is what makes the dogshit moba part of this game tolerable.
>abrams and bebop low priority>high priority doorman>queue brawl>get abrams instead and there's no doorman on either teamfix this god damn it
Silver with the resets is literally insane holy fuck. Get unstoppable and you just destroy teams 1v6
>>556774059
>>556774106How so
why dont people run veil walker on rem it seems tailor made for stealing sinners without punishment
>>556774425YES
>team is just dying left and right>forced to play "hold lanes and farm" game>wtf why are u not fighting BRO we need to FIGHT BROthese people need to kill themselves asap
>>556774738So what do you do THEN
Hats?
How does I Doorman?I'm bad at the game, but I'm going to learn a tougher character and I don't give a shit how many people have to suffer while I do.
>>556774738NGL they might be right, deadlock is retarded you NEED to fight them off your side of the map if youre losing farming doesnt work you need to BROOOOL
>>556774831I can't wait for cosmetics I'm getting sick of the chars all looking the same, also levels to grind for, can release hurry already?
>>556774047People like that don't even read the actual build they just queue it up and buy literally everything in it, even if the build says something like "pick 1 out of 2-3"
>>556774894kill yourself.
>>556774846They're not right at all. If you're behind and you have 2 lanes full of farm and a bunch of uncontested camps, you should be raped in every hole if you ignore the creeps to go fight a random player who is up 5k on you.
Haze gives Rem nursing handjobs.
my first ever game as mina in ascendant 6 i went 9-0-23 and i didn't even get my 4.8k green spike >>556774473i've tried it and it is decent but with high movement speed and greater expansion stealing sinners is pretty low commitment
WITHOUT FAIL if silver is on my team they are feeding 1-12, if they're on the enemy team they are going 15-0. i have literally never had a good silver on my team fuck this cancerous character
inhousu when? I want to play support Mina.
>>556775043nursing prostate massage*
>>556775024>nobody fights>they come to kill the guys farming the lanesWHOOPS
>>556774894>I can't wait for cosmetics I'm getting sick of the chars all looking the sameI want model updates more. Some like Sinclair look like dogshit.
>>556775024retard, they kill you when youre farming split, just cause youre the pussy hiding while your team dies doesnt mean youre doing the right thing by not dyingwithout grouping, especially as the highest NW team, they will just continue roaming and killing your team
>>556775389youre right actually mb keep going 2-11 down 21k souls every game alchemist-sama
>>556775564I will, thank you. I'm oracle/archon though
>>556775043hot
Lost all 3 of my games today deadtards...
every game seems to be dtermined by who has abramseven if they feed their ass off in lane or don’t have many kills lategame
>>556774106its not a waste of stamina? side dashing off a jump is the best movement unironically
Buff Silver
>>556775831Abrams definitely seems a bit too strong. He beats any other frontliner and has a better escape with ult so you cant invest abilities on him it feels oppressive
>>556775112same for me. Rem on my team? stealing all our farm and not using helpers at all. Rem on the other team? Macro god nightmare thats always on the opposite side from me Graves on my team? 6 deaths in lane and pops ult maybe once the entire game Graves on the other team? Zoning god with lanes perma pushedSilver on my team? feeding specialistSilver on the other team? perma in ult during the teamfight unless I buy counters and somehow perma on fire in lane. Venators I have noticed have been pretty even but I have had maybe one good rem and never have had a carry graves or silver or venator on my team since the patch dropped.
>>556775024you should not be in the jungle if the troopers are on your side of the map.
>>556775831I have lost multiple games the last 2 days with literal bots playing Abrams on my team
>>556775112try ganking their lane to get the snowball going early, as a silver player I either am useless or unstoppable due to early laning advantages. Very fun char tho
>>556775949>ignores the part where I directly mention pushed lanes being abandoned just hang yourself man youre such a stupid fucking faggot
>Celeste is a size queenBROS.......
>>556775112just beat them. even if they go 14-0.remind them that they're a mutt.
Have you guys ever actually gone to 10+ deaths before in a match? I don't think I've broken double digit deaths outside of my beginner matches.
>>556776180Only in inhouses because I'll start feeding on purpose if someone complains.
>>556774894Dopamine receptors do brutally raped that you NEED to see imaginary numbers go up to find enjoyment in a GAME.
>>556776180all the timei play tanks and win games tho, someone has to initiate
Rushing 4.8k vit is actually optimal on more heroes than it is not.
koth, cp, ctf when?towers suck ass, either they're fucking cardboard or a stalling hell mechanic
>Celeste has Swan's old passive that makes her stronger the more she dashes, jumps and slidesSCHMOVEMENT BROS?????
>>556776439no she doesn't lol
>keep seeing people saying paige is really difficult to playAm I misunderstanding something about her kit? What is supposed to be so difficult about her?
>>556776439>no movement abilityumm
>>556776648nobody said that. you just wanted to post your shitty mod.
Can Celestefags explain to me why you find her so attractive now? Serious question.
>>556776648I think you read that wrong? She is literally the character you let your girlfriend play (on controller) because it plays itself.
>>556775872Thats my point? Theres never a reason to forward air dash when you can side or diagonal dash.
>>556774023>and he was playing fucking GRAVESI had a Graves player melt down on all chat about how retarded Silver is because he kept getting ganked while solo pushing a walker over and over again.
>>556776434I'd tell you to fuck off but I think street brawl would be more fun with a random set of modes like this instead of just trying to rush down a tower
>>556776054if i try to gank my bitch ass lane partner will whine
>laning against remwhat do i do
Bebop nerfs can't come soon enough
I CAN'T PLAY ANY CHARACTER EXCEPT REM...
>>556776934Hope he's part of the 90% of the rem playerbase that is retarded.Otherwise you instantly lose because he can't be focused, he pushes the wave like a mcginnis, has a nuke and is taking all your resources while you fight him.
>>556776758she reminds me of an MLP oc
>>556776934Rush him down in early game, he's very weak at that point and it's hard for him to recover
>>556776982and even rem you still play like shit
>>556776936They come every patch. But you'll still keep getting hooked.
>>556776929then swap lanes to silver and enable her>>556777046>takes multiple melees to kill a single helper creep>he can do multiple at the SAME TIME>if he buys rebuttal you literally cant risk trying to even kill them>wins lane for freeWorst design ever
>>556777107NTA but if they removed the bomb stack nobody would play bebop except people who play for the hook, which is a very small amount of bebop players
>>556777079I can only play Rem too, but I'm pretty good at it actually
>>556777060>rush him down through the invincible creeps and untargetable + dash form he hasHELLO RITUALIST SAR>>556777173I like the hook way more than bomb too bad hooking barely even matters with all the faggot mobility in the game. Hook should disable stamina usage for 2 seconds
>>556776758white + feminine
>>556777107I don't give a fuck about his hook its his retarded bombs my dumbass teammates keep feeding him
>>556776732I have watched several videos where they all list her as being harder to play and not suited for new players. All 4 of the ones I watched all listed her as difficult.
>>556777173Well, as a Bebop player I would welcome them removing the bomb because it fucking sucks anyway. Actually rework the ult too, it's boring. Tanky Gunbop is way more reliable.
>>556775389>doesnt mean youre doing the right thing by not dyingIf you're trying to force fights while significantly behind, and you don't have something like Dynamo ult to shift it dramatically in your favor, then you are a retarded nigger Your ebin skillz are not going to save your stupid ass from the Victor with a 10k lead on you, it's just going to make it a 14k lead instead
>>556777270both of those players are retards. chicken and metro.where does Deathy rank her? his opinion holds more weight.
>>556776648decision making :)
>>556777471you have nothing to lose, without fighting you will just lose anywaytaking a decisive fight while the enemy is split up and farming is the only way to come back 90% of gamesit's literally the oppposite of what youre implying im doing btw, you cant win 3v2v1 because they all have more money, you need to swap lanes and gank all at once to make the money lead pointless by outnumbering themlearn to play cause youre not playing to win by trying to hide and farm
>forgot to save that fucking awful mirage video now that i actually want to post it somewhereFUCK
>>556776758Look at this and tell me she isnt max qtTattoos are take it or leave it tho
>>556768694What motivates her to do that? Charity, pleasure or rebelliousness?
>>556776758perfect figure and beautiful hair/eyes.
>>556768171Abams...
>>556777640just search the archivesFOR THE DJINN
>>556773787Mina is but obscurus tier dlggers aren’t ready for that conversation
Jesus christ this game is fucking insanely addicting in a good way.Reminds me of Warcraft/Superhero mod from CS 1.6(1.5)
>>556777730Tattoos make her trashier and thus hotter. Without the tats she'd be too conventional
>>556767302+2 numerals today.I am leaving pisslow behind...
They are gonna nerf Silver again and she'll become the worst character in the game just like it was with Victor
>>556778080Already is
>>556778002okay? why are you reposting shit from 2024
>>556778080Good
>>556777926it was only a few threads back thank god
>>556778002fucking superhero servers were so lit.
>>556778150what is this faggot talking about
>>556777730Celeste needs a shitty saturday morning cartoon style theme to blast for maximum annoyancehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQX2sShoy38
>>556778080Yoshi here, to make both Graves and Silver fans happy, we decided to make a very serious decision and we will be nerfing Bebop and Shiv again
>>556777730Holy shit the FUCK ME eyes is such a massive improvement
>>556778080they wouldnt dare..
>>556778225you're acting like we didnt already know this for 2 years? You're not...a-a *gulp*...newfag....right...?
how do i stop my lane partner from dying so much why won't they buy healing rite
>marvel rivals gets a new anthro babe mod practically every month>All we get is pic relatedThis isnt fair, why did all the furries go to capesloptown and leave us with the faggots?We have actual anthros here!
>>556778080Victor is still OP, thoughbeit.
>We want the futa audience
>>556774059This, but Darcy Graves instead.
Lol baited
>Apollo's combined votes since day one>Celeste getting more "new" voters coming her way after Silver and Graves got inWhat does the shitcord poll look like now?
So the Archmother represents Order what does the Hidden King represent? He's not exactly chaos, but with his associations with Fire he's probably not not chaos
>>556778638idgi, why would he be for the futa audience and not Celeste? do you mean the fujo audience?Apollo is clearly designed for straight women. He has that prettyboy Korean gacha game for girls that tracks your periods look.Look at how hot he is:>>556764261
>assassinate scales with spirit>gives gun damageLiterally what is the point of this character?
>>556778638i dont get it. Are you saying he is a futa? Or that people into futa like him
>>556779115second
>>556779063Archmother is top down influenceHidden King is bottom up
>>556779115i love futa and i dont like him
>>556779138When I'm under the influence I always say "bottom's up" hahaaha cheers!
>>556779106hebephilia audience
I cannot fucking see Venators traps on the ground. And since I'm playing Graves I can't even shoot them to disable them, her guns doesn't lock on to them
I know there's the link in meta builds but is there like a Fat chunk of text I can read to understand the general build theme and theory? The total opposite of TL:DR?
>>556776432Yes it is, especially on frontliners. People just rag on it because Metro picked it up even though people a LOT better than Metro started it.
>>556779261
greytalon is back to being playable again after his buffs.always a bad fucking time when this cocksucker is in your game.
>>556778904celeste has more combined votes since day 1 than apolo ever had
>>556779280Bro she's an older ephebe than Graves is and Graves is still too old to qualify as hebe instead of ephebe. Get your terms right. Vindicta is probably Mina's age or so, discounting the few hundred years of being a ghost.
>>556779361I don't think I've had a Grey Talon in any of my games since the update
>>556777872Wrong horn, bro... Please fix it my autism demands it.
need ivy wife
>it's a Grey Talon in brool episode>roll Seraphim Wings and bully him to death by jumping up to him with Graves' auto aim pozcannon and raping him with every status effectFeels good man.
I really wished Deadlock would aesthetically lean towards a grittier and gloomy artstyle while putting an effort to keep the voicelines/writing within a believable alt 20's-40's lingo and cadence. But it seems like the visuals are now pivoting towards a "safer" more OW/TF2/Fortnite look as well as occasional giving the characters "MCU-like" quips.There's nothing wrong with vibrant colours but I really felt like the darker themes would allow Deadlock to differentiate itself from it's competitors in that aspect.What do you guys think?I know some of you may think that the gameplay is enough to separate itself but I just want to focus on it's art style
>>556779106They want her to deal sustained damage with gun as the game progresses instead of spirit-fueled 1HKOs with her ult because people still have TF2 Sniper PTSD I guess.
BLACKCOCKONLY
>>556775024>you should be raped in every hole if you ignore the creeps to go fight a random player who is up 5k on you.Which is ironic, because that's usually what happens as a direct result.
>>556778712Trapper bros... we're home
>>556779810As expected of Celeste voters.
>>556777270wow that looks like someone Id listen to
>>556779106Her point is to turn me on with her feet
>>556779969don't respond to bait
>>556779682Because snipers are aids
>>556779460Your autism shall suffer no more, for the next 10 seconds at best
>>556779435Proofs????
>>556778465It's fine if you dont dig capstuff but it's probably for the following reasons:>wider audience (Due to having a huge IP and a casual-friendly gameplay)>fully released game>MR designs tend to be conventionally attrative for both males and females>arent most anthros in Deadlock male?
>>556776758I liked her before even the update, which means my opinion is better than everyone elses.I think it's because she's a good mix of being a girly-pop, bimbo-esque barbie type person but also being alternative and cool.Like she's one of those extremely rare types who isn't just alt for the sake of being cool, it's her actual lifestyle. But then she's a literal unicorn because she's actually hot and 99% of those type of women are typically disgusting
venator buffs doko
>>556780039is that meant to be graves? why does it look like she has a beard
>>556780039Thank you, king.
Why does the gunplay have like 0 feedback. I feel like I'm shooting at nothing then they somehow die
>>556779452you'll run into your reminder of why they had to gut this character soon enough.
>>556778002How many hours do you have? I'm at 200 and am completely burnt out at this point
is celeste going to shoot beams out of her baton or something, that sounds retarded
is there a character you dread seeing in your team? I hate playing with Hollidays and Silvers
>>556780329No her horn silly, when she releases they'll release the bebop rework and she will have his except it will be a rainbow.
>>556780329>inventing something to be mad aboutit appears you are the retard here anon
>>556780273collar too tight squeezing her neck
>>556780329she's gonna shoot out pink stars with sparkly rainbow trails behind them
>>556779106They saw people having too much fun on full spirit vincockta so they made her ult give weapon damage rather than money to incentivize building hybridNot a fan
>>556780329No she actually has an M16
>>556778080So the wider player base is gonna learn how to play her, and then Yoshi will push out a buff that makes her uberbroken for months?
I hops Celeste's ult is just one big fuck you laser
>brooling>bebop and seven in the other team>don't get knockdown at allStill won somehow
I can't decide whether or not Drifter's VA is bad or so bad it's good
>>556780726Wouldnt that just be bebop 2.0?
>>556780726We might unironically get a Lux style global execute ult.
>>556780889but this time the lazer is burst dmg
Alright, I couldn't get online for the previous week.So how's silver?Is she OP?
>>556779106She is currently unplayable if you have a bad lane with her, you have to farm all game on one of the worst farming characters to do anything.
Why do people think he's boring? I think he's quite fun
>>556779332>>556776432If you think about it HP is actually a damage stat because you take more damage before dying so youre doing more damage
>>556780726It's probably more cc oriented than pure damage. Maybe a blind of some sort or you can't look away from it
>>556780954Idk if you play league but if so>Celest/Lux>Bebop/Vel'kozlike that?
>>556780889No like >>556780915Instead of a sustained laser just one massive beam that lasts for a second
>>556780989for 2 days she was
>>556781112we dont play trannyslop here sorry anon
>>556780989yes she's OP still, people dont know how to build or play her even lightbringer maxes the wrong tier
>>556781112i was thinking of a ult version of Gazlowe lazer ability
>>556781210Deadlock is the first nonslop MOBAWhatever your frame of reference for MOBAs is, it is slop
>>556776982can you even really consider piloting rem playing the game though
>>556780989Actual dogshit
>main point of hero is getting to generate souls to scale fast at the cost of your scaling being overall weaker>get rid of extra souls for 5% of a combat stat she benefits the least from>also doesn't buff her overall scaling to compensateBravo icefraud. BRAVO!!!!!!!!
>>556781308>Deadlock is the first nonslop MOBA
>>556779682Because the long range sniper archetype is something every developer feels like shoehorning despite the balancing quirks and drama they entail.
>>556780989if you're above phantom yes shes good
>nu healthbars show staminayay or nay, /dlg/?>>556768553>open gameinfo.gi in deadlock folder>scroll down to "convars" section>add this line to the bottom of the convars"citadel_unit_status_use_v2" "true"
>>556781468Try harder, anon
>>556781210I'm not telling him to play it, im just trying to see what he meant. relax>>556781302just looked that up, thanks for clarifying. That required "windup/channeling" does look healthier than Lux's ult. good idea
>>556781071This is why I will be rushing inhibitor on every hero from now on.Sex with Darcy Graves and Mina Ha at the same time, btw.
>>556781393So... that's good?
celeste ult is her whipping out her MASSIVE futa cock and cooming like a shotgun blast
>>556779682>1HKOs with her ultThat has never been possible with her because her ult only deals high damage against people at half leath.
>>556781638Greena Ha*
say something nice about your MVP for the match.
>>556781760he cute.
>>556781065he's shit outside of his ult. many such cases
>>556781494>despite the balancing quirks and drama they entail.The reality is most people either like or don't mind snipers and the people complaining endlessly about them online are a vocal minority upset about a playstyle they don't like. That's why they've been in practically every MP shooter since Quake and why they'll continue to be in new ones no matter how many video essays are made calling them broken.
>>556763438I can't win unless I play Graves
>Find Sillyver alone in lane>Combo + Torment Pulse + Escalating Exposure>Dies>Leaveslmao
>>556781065Too much m1 for keyrollers and too much keyrole for m1ers. Personally I like him and find it funny he nearly one shots Mina.
>>556781065what games did you play before this?I never ADS but you do it in every clip.what's your zoom sensitivity ratio?
>>556781967What's ADS?
>>556782137Aiming down sights
>>556781760people always hate on Mo for the hate crimes but it's actually Krill who's the one grabbing people. #justiceformo
>>556779640i agreehopefully the next batch of characters isn't half children
Didnt realize until now that Deadlock really is just western Darkstalkers
>>556781967Should one not be aiming down sights?
>>556781494>long range sniper archetypeI feel like Vin is well designed in that regard, her snipe is a valuable resource and it can only deal big damage if the enemy is already weak, so she can't sit 3 miles away, she has to engage with the fight.Enemies will also always know when they can get sniped because everyone will be paying attention to their health all times, nevermind the giant lens flare, the laser and the arm time of the rifle for full damage.And then Talon exists, ignoring all of the rules above.
so when are they revealing that rem was just a funny early april fool's joke and removing it from the game
>>556779682>people still have TF2 Sniper PTSD I guessI still think it's funny how practically nobody gave a shit about sniper until bots started but TF2 players are adamant he was secretly OP this whole time, a fundamentally broken design, and their opinion on the whole archetype has absolutely nothing to do with cheaters raping them for years.
>>556779640I agree, not a fan of the direction the art direction is going.
>>556781071And movement speed is a defense stat.
So when are they revealing Graves 2?
>>556779640The gritty style didnt work for gameplay
>>556782226
>>556777270mirage is so hilariously weak I wouldn't say he's "easy" to pick up.
>girl on voice>it's always graves, mina or paigeWhy do they only play these heroes?
>>556782525Would you prefer if I said Deadlock is just western Kekkai Sensen?
>>556782348Not really. PCs got better as tech improved so bruteforcing the spaghetti code became affordable, teamplay improved at a baseline, Sniper got new busted utility and "nah let's not do that" unlocks. Organized teams realized for ages being able to kill guys without ever having to directly engage in damage exchanges is retarded.
>>556782503you forgot dynamo but do you really not get why they only play those 3?
If you see>Silver>Mina>Holliday>Vyperon your team, gracefully accept the L and go next.
>>556782503They want to self insert as the cute girl characters
>>556781895>That's why they've been in practically every MP shooter since Quake and why they'll continue to be in new ones no matter how many video essays are made calling them broken.That's just SF Honda syndrome.
>>556782636I'd rather you kill yourself weaboo NIGGER
>>556782503The only times I've heard girls on mic they were playing Ivy and Rem
>>556782674if i see vyper on my team im getting my dick out
>>556782754People play snipers though. Nobody plays Honda.
>>556782503I've only heard trannies on paige, and only encountered one girl who was a bebop player.
>>556782674my holidays have been good but the rest yeah... also my vindictas are always browns or mouthy white incels while the enemy vindictas are always aimbotters
>>556782781Same here, was playing a few days back and our rem turned out to be a foidGuess they just like the small, cute critter/kid, must be their inner clock telling them to have babies
Is there ever a reason to NOT buy leap ever
>Phantom>team still feeding Drifter 12 kills in laneat what rank can I expect 2/3 of the lanes to not go 0/6?
I once got matched with an actual Drifter fanboy/girl/they/it/xe/fagwhatever who's entire Steam profile was devoted to how sexy Drifter and Astarion are (with their steam bio being "sorry that I suck at Drifter, I play him because I want him to suck me") and their Deadlock bio literally only had him played as a character with 100+ games
>>556782348>a fundamentally broken designI don't think it's a fundamentally broken design, awps are fine in CS. Most of these games have objectives that necessitate players to move or occupy certain spaces, even if the sniper kills everyone they'll usually suck at doing the objectives. TF2's problem is that with suficient aim Sniper is also the strongest class at close range, that would have been easily fixed with something like reverse falloff.
>>556763438>Finger FriendThis is a term to mean casual lesbian behaviour. Do you think Graves uses the Lich hand to finger herself?
>women speaks >random guys who didnt talk before start talkinghmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
>Holliday lassos my Haze>I combo the Holliday>Doorman sends me to the Baroness
>>556783003enemies that have dots
>>556783095His virginity isn't going to fuck itself buddy.
>>556782674It's practically a game rule that the hard to play characters on your team are played by 70iq retards while the enemy team has 100 hours on that character/are hacking/are smurfing
>>556782503becuase they are cute?
why is it that I only get matched against graves when I'm playing a slow firerate single projectile character
>>556781586>if you're above phantom yes shes good>lowest winrate hero in phantom+ at a pathetic 44.18%I can understand downplaying heroes because you don't want them to get nerfedBut why upplay them when they're just complete shit?
>try out grey talon>find him really fun, and im good with him>don't want to play him purely because he's a fat ugly native guy that looks like a grandmacrazy how fucking badly they messed up that character design dude
>>556783083>awps are fine in CSEveryone fucking hated awps in CS too wtf are you talking about
Graves' hairstyle is cute. i like it
>>556782876You can't fix her>>556783047You can'tEveryone has bad games. Everyone makes mistakes.
>>556783094Isn’t it weird she calls the lich her friend even though she’s probably like a master to her
>my holliday lassos someone>say "don't move">meanwhile my holliday
>go Rem>rush lil helpers>win lane>8 minute mark I steal all of the sinner's on the map>enemy team has no souls>enemy team has no items>enemy team losesHe's gonna get shadow nerfed isn't he?They're gonna get rid of lil helper gambling aren't they?
>>556783325They've been saying for over a year that he's going to get a redesign. Actually most of the cast is going to get a redesign iirc
>>556782503the character they pick is just another facet of them trying to appealif they pick a cute character they're appealing as cutethats why they dont pick ugly
>>556782348my observation was whichever team had the most snipers (or spies for that matter) was 90% most likely going to lose since they tend to just work on having a pretty k/d ratio instead of completing objectives etc. >but muh area denial! but muh uber charge denial! but muh ____!yeah none of that actually really ever played out.
>>556783474>You can't fix herWho the fuck said I want to fix her? I want to raw her ruthlessly while she weeps because lash isn't returning her calls.
>>556783083>that would have been easily fixed with something like reverse falloffIf he Jarated you, you basically are dead in the following exchange with his nearby teammates unless he was stupid enough to either go too far upfront or was too slow/tunnel visiones to move up with his team. Another issue in TF2 is that the type of maps that would contain a Sniper aren't played much or liked.
>>556779640The gameplay is why we play it. A lot of the inferred "gritty"ness from back then was because of the game being straight up unfinished.If anything, the current direction is a lot more consistent with the visual novel.
>>556783587Really? Thank fuckDid the devs say it on the discord or in some patch notes?
>>556783095This is indirectly true for me, except I only start talking if the guy talking is tilted or tilting the team. Someone tilting in voice over some chick when they themselves are like 2-10-3 annoys me. Just focus on the game.
>>556783484It's more sad than weird. It means she has literally 0 friends outside of her undead teacher.
>>556783651based stdmaxxer
>>556781871nades are goodshotty is goodhis heavy melee deals more damage than anyone elseand trapper characters always make for fun moments
>>556772758buying any gun damage as haze is a waste because of the way your gun works with fixationwithout fixation haze's gun has abhorrently dogshit DPS, so you must stack as much fire rate as possible to max on fixation stacks fast
>>556783651based honestly but you're gonna end up with an egg and she's gonna try to keep it
>>556782358nope also damage because you do more damage by keeping up with the enemyit's damage stats all the way down
>>556765452>kelvin is a-tierin tourneys, maybe, otherwise like a B-C
>>556782649Sniper isn't competitively viable in tf2>W-What about muh highlander?Pubshitter mickey mouse gamemode isn't real competitive.
>>556783703>Did the devs say it on the discord or in some patch notes?They're slowly updating old characters. Some are obviously way too rough like Sinclair and Viscous.
>>556783325It's simultaneously too safe but also out there.
If my lane partner dies, is it best to try to not kill troopers before they make it back to lane if possible? What should I be doing during moments like these?
None of this discussion about snipers is appliable to Vindicta in the slightest because this isn't a shooter and Vindicta can't one-shot anyone.
>>556783703it is known
>all the new characters except graves have sub 50% winrates>still constantly pickedhow long does it take for people to realize they suck and stop playing them?
>>556784250soul vs goonerbait
>>556784367take all the farm of course.
>it's another sniper discussion devolves into "muh competitive viability" episodeThey're not fun you retardsNobody cares about whether they're OP or not, the archetype is just fucking cancer
What's your patron wish, /dlg/?
>>556784367>If my lane partner dies, is it best to try to not kill troopers before they make it back to lane if possible? What should I be doing during moments like these?Farm and play it safe.
>>556784414when are you going to realise people dont care about such thing? people want to play cute/hot characters.
>>556784250ngl Geist's old design looks betterPocket also looked better. He actually looked like a teen. He looks like a weird ass baby now
>>556784420old geist literally had her ass sticking out, you could see the entire shape through it
>>556784367Sucks to suckFree farm for you babyI'm guessing somebody bitched at you because they fed like a retard and expected you to wipe their ass for them
I genuinely dont think its possible to lose lane on rem, has anyone ever actually seen it happen
>>556784094>Sniper isn't competitively viable in tf2Because they basically had to make specific rule+map set that basically made it so that picking Sniper had an opportunity cost you shitty /SFG/ refugee. He's still the most common offpick in 6v6 and having at least one flanking scout be good at the minimum is necessary in any organized team that doesn't want to be total fodder.>Pubshitter mickey mouse gamemode isn't real competitive.Has been for years anon.
>>556784367you earn less overall by not holding the wave and now your teammate will be useless allowing the enemy to use all their shit on you do not kill the wave if possible or limit it
This double-veil arch gives you a passive speed boost for some reasonI assume that used to be a feature and they just forgot to take it out?The one on the other side of the map doesn't have it
>>556784673OH GREAT MORE GOONERSLOP
>shit on enemy team so bad they asked if I'm employed>they literally think being a wageslave is some type of own
>>556784462I wanna be able to shapeshift
>another match, another MVP>>556781826thanks>>556782176uhh I think mo is the big one that grabs them though?
>>556784367take the healing troopers for yourself to full heal if you need it and then farm boxes, let your stupid guardian get pummeled if needed.unless your teammate is a retarded little bitch then you just take all of them and let them melt down since something else was going to trigger them anyways.
>>556784457It all dwindled down to a binary kill or not kill. The only fun one was SMNC's Sniper and he had a ton of non-rifle utility you needed to use to not be free as fuck to gank.
>>556784752we have you now :D
>>556784462to be an anal queen hag
>>556784414The bottom 5 winrate heroes has at least one rep from each of deadlock's hero releases (closed alpha leak, that weird era where they released new heroes solo like shiv, hero labs, last years 6, this years 6).
Odds on Apollo being straight up a Genji copy?
>>556782649>PCs got better as tech improved so bruteforcing the spaghetti code became affordable>Sniper got new busted utility and "nah let's not do that" unlocksBoth of these were true several years before people started insisting he was broken.>teamplay improved at a baselinelol>Organized teams realizedYou mean the teams that play on completely different rulesets? One of which where sniper is only a situational pick and not even meta while teams have multiple soldiers and scouts and demoman is literally restricted? If you think that he's broken on rules he literally was never designed for and that only a small portion of the playerbase uses then sure, I won't argue. So is demoman.
>>556782262idk I'm just used to CS where it doesn't exist, but I know in other games like COD you can't hipfire and you're required to ADS. so I was just curious.
>>556784462Sex forever
So, is haze supposed to be a negress?Cause thats the vibe im getting
>>556784752im sorry but...that paige build sucks!
>>556784808seconding
>>556784367depends really, but if it happens early and you take it, consider the rest of the lane lost and you are playing for yourself from now on, your team mate will not be able to come back from that decision
>she's not maining Mina
>>556784462Venator’s hand in marriage
>>556784957doesn't matter when you got me on the team /flex
Does mmr even work for a team game like this? If you take the best player and pair them with the worst player, then fill the middle it would still be '''blanaced''' numbers wise, but thats still going to be a shitty game even though the mmr is evens out.
>>556784931Uh DUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>556784462Mina's smooth, pale vampire ass on my face, at least 2 hours everyday for the rest of my life
>>556785104what makes it different than any other game with mmr?
>>556784839>people started insisting he was broken.Because the pub floor finally started to go up.>You mean the teams that play on completely different rulesets?Nah. Just being on a decent non Valve server with a good skill level. Doesn't have to be stellar.
>>556763709I really fucking wish there was an unranked mode>Went from Arcanist 1 to fucking Emissary 6 since the last few updates I miss getting away with dumb shit, playing the main mode feels like a chore now
>>556784658>Ermmm he's the most popular offclass, it's the rulesets fault stupid chud.No mid presence = irrelevant cheeseGo get kicked off another open roster, shitter.
>>556763709there is no schmovement in archon.there is still no schmovement in oracle.
>>556785104only solo queue works, having separate mmr for parties and solos is the only way to fix it but they removed ranked solo mode because parties had to face each other's smurfs and cried (every party has their tryhard friend on a new account to get easier games)
>>556784462unlimited access to ivy and vyper's unwashed cloacas
>>556765452>Wraith, Calico, Sinclair D tier>Mina S tier>Lash B tier>Mirage not in his own special tier at the very bottomGr8 B8
>>556785179This, but Paige instead.
>>556784752mo is swiping them, krill is grabbing
>>556784462to be mina
>>556785083anon would you mind writing up a mini-guide for her? I really like playing her but I'm just not good at her
>>556785217its avrages,. In something like chess or a fighting game its easy cause the mmr level will literally match or be within x ammount of points and be an even game. In a team game if you put the player that regularly goes 20-1 witht he guy that regularly goes 1-20 then the team mmr will even out. Sure the over all stats/numbers will be even aginst eachother. But the game itself is going to be fucking dogshit in terms of being an enjoyable game.
>>556785418>ivyYou wanna jerk off to the smell of rock, dust, and lichen?
behold, the first guest character
>>556784462I want to be a normal person
>>556785334How is having a frequent use case in matches as a class scouts swap into for key moments and medic kills "not competitively viable"? You speak of him like he's fucking heavy. Even then the prime point many people have made here is that Sniper classes either aren't fun to play as or are badly designed/balance problems waiting to happen you literal mong.
>>556785270>Because the pub floor finally started to go up.People always say this and then I boot up the game and players, Valve server or no, are just about as shit as ever. People say how broken he is and act like every other sniper is a quickscope machine and he beats scout up close and then I play scout and barely care about him unless he's nearby and a free kill.
>>556785583>he doesn't whack it while huffing mossNGMI
>try gun doorman build>mfw melting everyone in just a few shots, and getting a stun with cart is an insta killJesus Christ I've been bell gaming this whole time when I should've just resorted to GUN
>>556785596Nah, it needs to be my boy. Let me mine lanes.
>>556785519you can see her name sis, just copy the build
>>556785764i dont think it's a build issue though, I think i just am not good at piloting her
The reason Graves became a Lich intern is because she couldn't get a boyfriend
>>556785824oh..
>>556785670>Valve server or no, are just about as shit as ever.Just find a decent server.>then I play scout and barely care about him unless he's nearby and a free kill.So you fought shitters. I can make the same case with Medic players leeching onto one guy, refusing to use the crossbow or constantly face tanking rockets and dying before they can get an über off.
if I am phantom, what should be my irl line of work, this might be retarded (might means absolutely is) but Im trying to figure out what to do with my life but never really understood what I'm capable
>>556785845*gf
>>556785845>graves farting on my cock and balls
>>556785743>>556785596I think the best one might be templar assassin, her kit would work well enough and shes a ranged character
whats your fav drifter build guys
>>556784462remove paige and holliday from the game
>>556785865>Just find a decent server.Okay, what ones do you play on? For some reason, nobody can ever point me to this mythical server where the god-tier snipers roam free.>So you fought shittersYeah, I fought TF2 players.
SERIOUS RESPONSES ONLYDo we know what Mina or Drifter's ears look like? I need to know if they're normal or pointed.In some vampire lore they have pointed ears.
>>556785743look what they did to my boy :(
>>556786087You can literally go in game and see Drifter's ears. They're pointy. Mina's are round
>>556785894ball washer
>>556785894Epstein island guard
wait drifter is a vampire?
>>556785596Yes, yes, a fine suggestion anon.However,
Canon Lash-Bebop interaction.
>>556785928That's kinda like Slork's labs kit. He had a wall latch where he'd turn invisible while sitting clung to the wall.
>>556786326You're actually fucking retarded
>>556786438I just thought he was a crazy homeless guy that got powers from demons or something idk
how could we have a flamethrower character without it being a tf2 pyro copy
>>556786505make pyro a unicorn
>>556786505Venator is already in the game
>>556786497Mina is vampire larpDrifter is truevamp
Is it too much to ask for a shorter mode that isn't completely coinflip bullshit? The RNG ruins street brawl
>>556786505Firefighter who learned to become a pyromancer to save lives
>>556786505You really think we're gonna get another fire hero after Infernus already exists?
>>556786505Well you remember Bo Rai Cho from Mortal Combat?
>>556786497drifter is a homeless vampire mina is a high class princess vampire
just one more week until we can ban silver from our games!
>>556786776no! fuck you!
>>556786776you know you can buy a tier 3 item and shut her down, right? use your ban on worse offenders.
>>556786914I want to ban her so my team will stop picking her and feeding.
>>556786914silver is the worst offender
>>556786914Decay or Disarming Hex?
>>556787250obviously disarming, sweetie. but she can just get unstoppable later.
>>556786718They can easily make it unique by having their gun be a kelvin-like beam and their dot having counterplay like spending stamina to roll it off.
>>556786914I've been dominating as silver (won 6 in a row) and there's no counter to her, press all your abilities on me and I'm still going to make enough space for my team to wipe you after. She does so much in teamfights it's ridiculous. And if you DONT focus her and she gets a reset in wolf form it's gg. She is so good and her only counter is preventing her from getting money in a complete stomp
>>556787345But why though?
Popping metal skin and standing still in front of a silver is funny
>>556786776Graves*
mina but you play her like blademail qopthink about it
Last night for getting my votes in, swung 60 votes for Apollo.
>it's a dynamo spams his tp with ally ability off cd episodeSTOP STOP STOP STOP STOP
>>556786367ORALE
>Celeste has built in splitshot>has the lowest movespeed>but has 4 stamina bars baseWHAT WE THINKING CELESTE BROS?
>>556786505>how could we have a flamethrower character without it being a tf2 pyro copyI fail to see anything wrong with that. Pyro is one of the easiest mercs to fit into Deadlock.>m1 fits perfectly, no changes needed>air blast could work on a cooldown>1 is scorch/det flare for poke>2 is gas passer, third upgrade gives it detonate upgrade from mvm>3 is thermal thruster for mobility>4 is a low cd close range axtinguisher swing
WHAT I THINK? ILL TAKE ON ALL OF YOU!
>>556787510wasnt bm qop only a thing because bm built out of an int itemalso when are they giving return fire the aoe passive so you can farm with it
>it's another episode where your teammates call mid but don't hit the rejuv
>>556787879>4 staminabout to do some crazy shit with mastery on her
just fought a tank/punch bebop with witchmail and radiant regenshit seemed absolutely retarded but he was mutilating my team with it so i guess he knows better than me
>>556787970>fag on mic: mid mid mid mid mid mid>fag on mic proceeds to whack sinners and then goes silent when questioned why he didn't go midSTOP IT FAGGOTS
>>556786776can't imagine what pisslo you have to be playing at to think Silver is a good champ, let alone a champ worth banning Bitch is useless.
>>556787879>4 stamHoly...
WHO IS BEING UNLOCKED TOMORROW, DLG? https://poal.me/69xj0yhttps://poal.me/69xj0yhttps://poal.me/69xj0yhttps://poal.me/69xj0y
>>556788168Apollo sweep!!!!!!
>>556788061champ?
>>556787879how do u know? larp
>>556788168Voting Apollo knowing full well I'm going to lose
>>556788168Jeb!
>>556787942it's because blademail was overtuned, and it deals magic damage, and qop has an innate that lets her heal off magic damage dealt.
>>556788168been voting for Apollo since Graves got in but there is so much momentum behind Celestereminds me of Victor all over again
Once celeste comes out, voting will stop, right?So how long until they release apollo as well?
>>556788061>champ
>>556786162Do you think Drifter is a natural born vampire vs sired? I was wondering the same thing about Silver since a line she has with Graves says she's been a werewolf "all her life."
i put dash on my scroll wheel and i'm never taking it off
SOFTENING EM UP
>>5567884643 days
>>556785083>that hero lineuplmfao
SUCKING EM OFF
>>556788430yea but there was a strong drifter core that made victors loss inevitable, i dont think celeste has as much of a fandom desu
>>556788464thursday
>>556785083>Mina>Haze>Wraith>Seven>InfernusThis is the most turbonigger collection you can possibly have
>>556787926I used to think Warden was just a shitty Ult-monkey until I realized everyone I saw playing him was just a retard
Severely fucked myself by getting used to abilities on the 1-4 keys when it feels like shit to use. Too late to change now
>>556785083>Mina at the top>infernus>wraith>Asc IVholy shit you might actually be a troon.
Why are people so scared to use ultimates in this game wtf
>>556788845Because if I'm playing Dynamo and my Singularity doesn't result in at least two kills I want to light myself on fire
>>556788168>celeste voted for>kpop turned on>street brawling as graves and minait's gaming time
>>556771495But Haze isnt even close to being aim dependentHer gun is extremely forgiving for aimlets and if you cant even do that you can still be useful as an ultbot
new to the game. i tried every character in training mode and none really stand out to me as must plays. sell me on your favorite character, anons
I fucking suck with Venator. How the fuck do you play this hero? The grenades have so little range a single dash escapes them. It's not like Geist's fuck huge bomb, or Ivy's Kudzu bombs. And the traps can be destroyed. What's the point in throwing these around?
>>556788974A Haze who cannot consistently hit her knives is not going to win games
>>556788974both infernus and haze have extremely forgiving guns
>>556788759what else would you use?
>>556777270God I hate this balding ginger fuckHe's insufferable to look at and his way of speaking makes me want to see him cry. Onions incarnate
>>556789079Haze knives are the most forgiving of all the dagger spells, the hitbox on them is super generous.
>>556789016hide the traps behind places. use the grenades more like up close burst until you get lvl2. i'm curious how much playtesters have been crying about venator seeing him like this
>>556788845>OMG HE SOLO ULTED ME>OMG THEY USED 4 ULTS ON ME>GUYS DO SOMETHING PUSH A WALKER GO MID THEY JUST USED EVERYTHING ON ME THEY'RE ALL IN MY LANE
>>556785652>Sniper classes either aren't fun to play asFor (You). You don't think they're fun to play as and many, many people disagree. That's why they're in every FPS and will be regardless of how much you complain. That's why, just like spy, people always used to complain about having a team full of snipers.>badly designedAgain, according to (You).>balance problems waiting to happenEvery class, role, and weapon in everything is a balance problem waiting to happen. You're even arguing over a ruleset where two classes that aren't sniper and play nothing like him are capped because they already are balance problems. One of the most meaningless statements I've seen on here in awhile.I like how you've gone from acting like he's broken to trying to argue to that anon that he's competitively viable to sidestepping to saying what you were really arguing anyway is he's just not fun and the archetype could cause balance problems btw. Makes him sound like a really busted character and definitely not like you have a personal dislike of him.
>>556789079The knife hitbox is fucking massive, you'd have to be braindead to not be consistent with it
guys care 38H85inhouse.
>>556789295Wat
why does 7 ult displace you
wait what the fuck is this
>>556789349Fuck, I just got into a game!
>>556789360One time Lightning bolt.
>>556789384an AI hallucination of Crownfall - Deadlock Edition.
>>556789428I know that it's the one time lightning bolt I'm asking why it displaces you
>>556788759i dont know how anyone opened deadlock for the first time without looking or changing the keybinds. when i saw ss of the game being 1 2 3 4 i said to myself "insane and deranged people". muscle memory is what will solidify your gameplay. you can relearn but yeah takes time. then again, i use legacy keys in dota. i was also the majority of people who ask for individual keybinds, which i have done for all heroes.
>>556789384Half finished visual novel ideaPersonally I'd rather they just make voiced comics
>>556789079>>556789267>>556789339>tfw have seen Eternus Haze players with over 60% WRs whiff knife after knife
>>556789016I've only gotten him 4-5 times but here's my take.He feels best as a close range brawler. His gun is ass at range and even with long range it's ass. But that's kind of a problem because he sorta gets shit on at close range by many characters. That being said, he feels like an "all-in" type of hero. Like you have to dive on someone, flame nade them, shotgun them into a wall all the while hitting headshots.His traps are unreliable. Use them on stairs/doors/around corners.Don't go for direct shots with the nade. Shoot it off the floor first, much more reliable once you figure out the trajectory.Ult is good for opening fights with as much as finishing someone off.Someone else said this, but he's basically a gun hero that can't carry. Kinda like Seven. Like yeah you're formidable, and dangerous, but if the enemy isn't stupid or just ganks you you're fucked.
>>556767243>Extra charge instead of the orange charge item>20 second cooldown
>>556788974Why did people tell me to play Haze then if I could aim...
>>556784462The power to know what to do if I want to do something, kinda like a walkthrough / guide.E.g.I want to start a trillion dollar company within 10 years.I want to be president.I want to dominate the world.I want to invent FTL technology.I want to invent time travel technology.I want to marry a famous vtuber girl.Anything I want to do, it will list steps by steps on how to achieve that goal to me, and all I have to do is follow it.
>>556789863all the m1gger heroes have easy guns to aim with, if youre actually good go play some gun holliday
>>556784462i just want to live comfortably
>>556789936>Turns out the answer is always "work hard on bettering yourself">Just wasted a magical wish granting genie on a glorified youtube video
>>556789349what's the point of inhouses if they're stacked? so I can listen to my fellow channer cry about jews and trannies?
>>556784462I want all bebop players hanging from a bridge and gutted
>>556789948I was tempted to try her but it sounded like her actual gun sucks ass and most of her damage comes from her abilities.
What heroes need a mechanical redesign except for holiday obviously
>>556790186Yamato for sure, her gun is stupid as fuck and nobody knows how to play her at lower levels. Mo & Krill as well, just a dumbass retarded kit.
How to viper
>>556790186Drifter
>>556790289GET HIM MO!
>>556790186>except for holiday obviouslyyou keep saying this and keep being wrong every time
>>556790086>work hard on bettering yourselfNo, it will be more specific, and not vague shit like that.If it wanted you to bettering yourself, it will tells you exactly what to do. Like go to gym on 3pm later,or read this book.
>lash throw into a pile of 4 gravelingsthis is beyond OP
>>556784540>spoilerActually no, I was just genuinely curious what the "optimal" option here is. Take it for myself or wait and split between us to prevent them from falling behind if possible.>>556784691I had suspicions this was the best option. Though not always possible, but I'll keep it in mind.
So will Valve fix Silver being ruined for anyone that isnt a top 2% player or they'll just leave her like this forever
I finally ranked up and the game is unplayable now. Every match is so sweaty, I can't go anywhere on the map or do anything without half the enemy team descending on me like the eye of Sauron. Constant rage-quitters every match too. Take me back to Seeker.
>>556784513See I think now he looks like a teen and in the old pic he looks mid 20's early 30s.Mostly though I just thought his old hair looked stupid.
>>556790526yeah it gives less souls to avoid people cheesing the lane and giving all the farm to one person like a victor, idk what it is but it's significant like 75% souls value so you cant just double the farm
>>556790539She is fine where she is right now.
>graves is OP as fuck>0 nerfs>silver is total fucking dogshit useless>nerfed into the groundGraves is 100% some loli waifufags special girl at valve >>556790539Whats funny is she isnt even good for those top 2% players
Give a fuck about my lobby 38H85Do you join me?
>>556790891not everyones a lolicon pedo or whatever stop this stupid meme, graves is just a cool hero
>>556790891brown hands typed this
See im a bad person who likes autoaim characters so im gonna play the fuck out of Graves on release
>>556790891silver got hard nerfed retard wtf are you talkng about, her range is gutted and tombstone no longer does max hp>>556790539silver is strong people are just extremely trash and stupid
>>556790952the stacking got old pretty fast
>>556784752what is greater expansion for
>Enhanced Shrink Ray
>>556790336He's a massive retard, I wonder how many years it'll take for him to take the hint
>>556791154i just said silver got nerfed you imbecilic mongoloid
>>556791303>but it's Abrams
>>556791497Silver doesnt have a tombstone, I meant graves. Graves is hard nerfed.
Getting attacked by Billy is so tilting holy fuck. The way your camera shakes and you can't control your character.
does this game have positions/farm priority like other mobas do, or is everyone basically incentivized to farm as much as they can?
>>55679065854%
>>556790186Mcginnis. She's still a collection of abilities and it feels like they have no idea what to do with her other than>gun
>seems like a slow, boring splitpush hero>is actually the reincarnation of TrapperWelcome back nigga
>>556792023shes so cute
>>556791720there are soft roles like money is better on certain heroes but farming isnt hard throwing like it would be in another moba unless youre top rank
>>556792023best girl in deadlockmina is a gutter trash whore by comparison
>lose first 2 rounds badly>randomly go on a killstreak and get a clean sweep victory no matter what I buildThis happens almost every time I play Victor in street brawl
this game went exactly how i expected
>>556792241"randomly"you are getting more items on an item dependent scaling hero, genius
Best Doorman build guide?
>>556792023probably one of the most fun addition in last two new hero patches>unique kit>unique weapon>summoner but actually not trolling with it>has a variety of builds and playstyles especially with her passive and abilites
>>556786628SB feels very character dependent. I've had pretty consistent luck and matchmaking with 7, Ivy, Paradox, Calico.As Billy, I get 1 second queues with no matchmaking - it's always a bizarre a mix of initiates and ascendant/eternus players with nothing in between.Characters who can't use a variety of builds should be avoided at all costs.If you just want to win, play ball 7.
>>556792241victor is dogshit until he gets spirit res, and then hes greatits not complicated
>>556792509bro is stuck in august 2025
>>556792023>>556792356Fuck you faggots, hope your shitty broken ass hero gets gutted.
>>556792314It happened even when I did an intentionally stupid gun build where I avoided all his good itemsThough, I guess he is one of those heroes where basically any T4 adds disproportionate value
>>556792472Yeah SB falls apart conceptually with non hybrid charactersIf a Haze gets no gun item rolls theyre worthlessIf an Abrams doesnt roll any green items theyll be a giant target
>>556792604D:
>>556790186Mirage and it's not even close
>>556791223everything.
new thread when benchods
>>556792472>a bizarre a mix of initiates and ascendant/eternus playersHow do you see other people's ranks?
So what do you think Billy got out of whatever eldritch pact he made, aside from the goat head? I'm assuming it's just nhuman strength/durability, plus whatever side benefits of having a goat head entails.
>>556792604Whether I call you a shitter or not depends on which of her abilities you think is broken
>>556792714only thing mirage needs is a totally new 1, the scarab is retarded
>>556792781>retards get an auto aim hero so now they gotta downplay it to hell and back to pretend that they are actually goodGraves is getting the silver treatment sooner or later, stats don't lie.
>>556786628Street brawl is a casual mode for you to try out a character and their various build options, you're not meant to care about winning
>>556792781nta but her root is easily the best ability in her kit and a paige + graves team is ridiculous in locking down their front line.
Hes still the king
>she's still posting at >750 posts
>>556792932Shitter detectedGrasping Hands was the correct answer>>556793015Correct
>>556792337>>556792337>>556792337help
>>556793214>>556793214
Does the 15% max health damage you take from being shot off a zipline count as lethal damage in and of itself?
>>556792781Not a graves hater (i rabu the graves) but it definitely feels like the wall is her strongest and most unfair move. The fact that it can hit you more than once is kinda wild
>>556792337there are no good doorman builds/guides, you are on your own.
>>556793114read all the items. all of them. or just use search. type spirit power. get only things that raises your spirit power but balance out resistance.600 damage bells
>>556786628a real brawl gamemode without rng would slap hardabout to play my first normal game in 5 months, how fucked am i
>>556793778extremely
>>556790141it doesnt suck its just too hard for most players to use
>autoshoves your wave from the other side of the map with 3 healing tempo heroic aura troopers, reaching walker in 10 seconds, also stealing your double sinners with the remaining helper
>>556794165i just had a game with a rem player that didnt use his helpers for anything besides using it on other players so fucking annoying
