Bareback (because she's a horse) Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/01-30-2026-update.102822/post-207811>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>558060389
my trashy lesbimbo turned straight horsewife celeste!
Graves!
Sex with Venator
Vyper lamia remodel with big tits naked overalls submit post
She's a unicorn you stupid retard
Victor is the best character in the game
Boring: Celeste has a horsecockExciting: Celeste has a horse vagina and anus
I have to say, for me it's Lilah Silver
>>558094278Can someone get this man a "True"?
https://youtu.be/UQUl1TdCwFkdid you guys figure out who Doorman's voice actor is?
>>558093925who artist
celeste insists she's a lesbian until a shota starts bullying her
>>558094278Woke: she has all 3
>>558094405Dangerous combination
...
I got a question, if Unstoppable is active and I heavy melee an enemy and they parry it, do I still get stunned?
>>558094480BABY IM PREYNG ON goo TONIGHTHUNT YOU DOWN goo YOU ALIVE
>>558094207SHE'S 18 YOU SICK FUCK
>only streamer I like stopped playing my one trick(Venator)now who the fuck do I watch
if yamato gets remodeled and has the stupid fucking kung lao hat I'm gonna rage and scream and pound my fists
>>558094480
>>558094480Cosmetic Rem
>>558094207if valve understood their playerbase then they would add cosmetics like this
>>558094480Deserved for being a tranny and playing Silver
Best heroes for climbing solo queue?
>>558094737Are you pisslow? If so then Victor 10000000000%
>>558094480holy KEK
>>558094226a unicorn is a horse, but is not called a horsein contrast, a seahorse is not a horse, but is called a horseid draw a venn diagram but im busyhope this helps
>>558094480based visc god makin ya seethe
>>558094737go eat lead paint chips frog faggot
>>558094737Literally anyone until you get to high ranksOnce at high ranks anyone who has a teamfight winning ult like Lash or Dynamo
I feel like I can't fucking carry in this game, like no matter what I'm going to have a minimum of three completely dead weight teammates that do fuck all. The enemy *team* always ends up so much more farmed than my team, it's ridiculous.
>>558094207Why did you make her fat... the whole appeal is her being skin and bones like a spooky skeleton
>>558094480>rem AFK farming sinners
>>558094991>Rems that take their own team's doublesthese people deserve to be shot
>>558094480I feel like it took a lot of restraint to not flame down the mic.
>>558094480>doesn't even have rank 1 wolf formDESERVEDactually probably would have lived if you built properly
>>558094480actually kino
NIGGA I CAN'T FUCKING HIT ANYTHING WITH HOLLIDAY'S GUNNNNN
>>558094480holy kek
>>558093925>Every single game: Perfectly fine, smooth running, zero performance issues>Last game: TWO THOUSAND PING YOU RETARD, GET FROZEN IDIOT. HOPE YOU LIKE POWER POINT.What the fuck is wrong with them? Can they not put me in some damn foreign server?
If you don't goon to graves we can't be bros
Melee Holliday
Gun Mo'n'Krill.Thoughts, deadtards?
>>558095665There are some good meme gun builds, but krill? Nah, I don't think so.
>if I don't play Mo the people who get Mo on my team are literally allergic to using their ultPleaseJust press 4Bind it to mousewheel down if you can't it it do fucking ANYTHING
>>558095665Not today, idf
WHERE IS THE NEW UPDATE AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH
The outline of Silver's cute tail through the wall.
>>558094480that's an afk in spawn moment
If the game ends up having just skins instead of swappable cosmetic slots like Dota I’m gonna be so fucking mad
>>558094991I’ve seen one of these edits with warden does anyone have it
>Try a new hero for the first time>Matchmaking puts me up against a duowow how fun yoshit!
>drifter on my team>he gets shat on early game>proceeds to autistically farm jungle for the rest of the match while we fight 5v6 until we losewhy is it always drifter players? what attracts failed males to this character?
>>558095879>pick a stupid fight>die>get mad and throwI wish I could study this mental illness
>>558095890I wonderit's valve and they didn't invest all this time into the game to not monetize the shit out of the cosmeticsso definitely battle passes and fomo full skinsswappable cosmetics I'm not sure
>>558095994
>15/2 enemy Haze is hard carrying her retarded team >starts focusing me (Dynamo) on teamfights because she realizes I am the only one with a functioning brain on my team too>chases me and manages to delete almost my entire health bar>clutch a quantum just in time for 3 of my monkey teammates to go unga bunga on her ass>teabag her body with barely 100 health>mfw she ragequitsGod, I needed a match this good after this atrociuos week of dogshit queues
>>558095890I don't see why they wouldn't just do the Dota thing again. It lets them have unique limited versions of a gun or hat or whatever without it needing to be an entirely new skin.
>>558095994No
>>558094729What makes Silver a tranny character?>>558095139Honestly I've started green maxing on Silver and been finding way more success with her. Usually have both armours before 25 minutes
>>558096053They hate women (based)
Why does Celeste have an absolutely instant team fight winning ult on a 5 second cooldown?
If Valve introduces cosmetics and Seven doesn't get a sombrero then I'm quitting the fucking game
>make yamato except give him 3 powerslashes>better range than yamatos powerslashes>better movementlet me ban the new heroes already
Silver needs more nerfs.
>broken heroes>power creep>even more bugs>underwhelming and poorly implemented brawl modethis update was shit overall and I refuse to unquestioningly praise the devs just because there was a content drought for 5 months. bases and patron look nice however
>>558095075>no the sinners shouldn't have gone to the player who takes the least time to do them>the rem is supposed to just leave them for the enemy to take because lord knows my ass didn't get to them in time
>>558096463Take the enemy sinners you fucking faggot
swear to god I've lost like 20 of my last 30 games but my rank refuses to fall please get me out of this phantom hell I don't belong here every game has people raging at me LET ME OUT LET ME OUT put me back in oracle A-HHHHH
https://voca.ro/1jqQ1X1Ay96u
>>558096417Thanks for your input metro
>>558096616kek
>>558096417this but celeste considering her nerfs did nothing at all
>>558096530He can in fact take all of them.
They should buff Ivy cause she's cool and she deserves it
>Mo is the one mo(aning) >krill is the one drillingwoah deepest lore ...
I am so fucking tired of this gun carry/Victor goes into the jungle and emerges with 40k souls shit
Where is the Frog hero?
>>558096775their name is pocket.
>>558096735No, I think she's had enough of your buffs.
>>558095085after having my comms blocked for 3 days for telling a 0/11 infernus to kill himself I just don't bother with chat at all.I've also muted voice chat a long time ago because all I hear is ear-grating slavic noises always coming from someone who dieed at least more than5 times in under 10 minutes
>>558096330celeste really tried to melee you on the same timing that you'd parry the guardianchrist
we need bigger boob character sex milky FUCK
>>558096835Damn I've been telling my retards to kill themselves after every game and I've yet to be muted
>>558095890Oh shit there’s nothing stopping the game from having a community workshop with fan-submitted content, is there? That’d be so based
what's the longest name I can have that shows up below my character portrait?
>>558096803I'd probably play Pocket more if he was green and had a frog head
>>558096616I hope you get raped
Business idea: I pick Seven and rice sidelane like a chinaman until Eternus 6.
>>558096914people will say "paige" but they just don't understand
>>558096914well said
any of you fags ever make any builds? or do you just net deck
>death is cominf
>>558096865>he doesn't do the "pretend to not look at someone to parry their heavy" trickYou turn your back to someone at close range, they will melee. I was listening for the sound, guardian swing was fortuitousSome players just LOVE getting parried. Like this abrams
>>558097006I'm doing that but with Mirage. Just perma afk lane janny like the old anti-mage I have finished farming memes.
>>558097057simply build what the match demands from me.
>>558096835>after having my comms blocked for 3 days for telling a 0/11 infernus to kill himselfIf you got muted in a Valve game then you're probably insufferable to play with.
>>558097102his beetles need more velocity
https://youtu.be/JF5BfLpgB94Hello lads, I learned video editing and decided to make a video with some fun Abrams clips, hope you like it!
>>558097084i mean the "trick" is fine but that was just celeste being retardedyou were (potentially)walking up to guardian to parry it, so them throwing a heavy melee there is like jumping in front of a car
I've been running gun-heavy with some spirit Apollo, and absolutely destroying it. His gun stats are pretty insane. I love it when people buy slowing hex and I just spam red slashes at them and watch as they get confused only to finish raping them with my abilites.
>>558097080Honestly, I use his ult practically off cooldown. Tells me if anyone is nearby and you'd be surprised how often you can force people to back off without ever being near them.
>>558097201Yeah his 1 is kind of whack conceptually and in implementation
*weights your shots*
>>558097417Show me
>love mina's design>love playing her>im fucking awful on carries and always chokedo I just give up? ive played her like 14 games and won 2 of them
>>558097296Audio seems super low bro. Good for you enjoying the blueman and having absolutely no respect for your opponents ability to press parry.
>got a 3 hour ban because I had to quit the game in a hurryDamn. I didn't expect it to be that long. Are the timers cumulative? Last ban I had was 1 hour long but that was more than a month ago and I have been playing full matches since then. I would think they would go down with time.
Siphon bullets Mirage.
>>558097737eventually they will just put you in low-prio queue which is near impossible to get out of unless you're actually good at the game, so yes in the future i would avoid just leaving a game.
>>558097296Audio is low. But watching abrams retard smash people is still funny.
>>558097737did you tell your team that you had to leave?
>>558097846He didn't even get a permission slip from GabeN
>>558097546prooohhhh :DDD
>>558097678Just keep playing her that's what Mina would've wanted
Let's see what this dick can do
why are there still voicelines about "the guided hand"
Hugs and kisses
>>558097845>>558097706Oh damn, I'll need to see about fixing that, thanks friends!
sometimes I think /dlg/ has bad takes but then I'll read what normies are saying about the game and its some retarded shit like>bebop is so broken>"well that's not so crazy, his hook is really-">because his bombs can stack infinitelyits like a whole different reality where several counter items don't exist and bebop doesn't have a bomb range of right in front of his nose
>>558098179ivy if she was mexican
>>558098156because the guided hand is the new team nameamber hand and sapphire flame are outnow it's court of the hidden king and guided hand of the archmother
>>558097846Nope, which is what I meant as in a hurry. Checking about it, the timer never goes down even if you play a lot of games and it only increases with leaves so I guess I'll just do my best to not leave again. Timer is over anyway.
>>558098142He can do a lot. Have not played the game?
>>558094480Oh hey that was meI was wondering why I got two kills lmao
>>558098205I wouldn't stress too much, just look up some audio mixing guides or something for your next video. I'm sure there's gotta be a relatively easy way to get the audio set correctly with modern software.
>>558094657What if she actually gets to throw it like kung lao
Spirit Abrams?
Sex Abrams?
>>558097057I did today actually but it failed to hit top daily...it's over
Would I have more carry potential on Graves or Yamato
>>558097417build ID? I think you unironically have to build gunpollo now
>>558098762Graves is effortless
Mina is for ____!
like two seconds after I die on any character I hear a faint meowing noise
>>558098817Mina HA
>>558098817the 4B movement and would never have sex with men
>>558098817brat correction
>>558098602uhhhhhhhh mod name??
Lowest non 0 obj damage I have ever seen
>>558099118diddy blud graves
I don't think I can stand how one-sided matches are any more, good or bad.I'm actually losing my mind. It's so bad. There is absolutely zero clutch or close matches.Is the whole genre like this?
>>558099482In some respects yes but it's particularly bad in this game for whatever reason
>>558097084abrams finds a way to feed in lane no matter what
>>558098817Getting knotted by Silver's wolf form
>>558094480REMMMM REMMMMMMMMMMM WHERE IS MY REMMMMMMMM STOP LEAVING ME SOLOOOO THERE ARE 4 PEOPLE GREEEEEEN REMMMMMMM THEY ALREAFY STOLE THE SINNERS LOOK AT THE FUCKING MAPREMMMMMMMMMMMM
Silver has a cookie thoughbeitCry about it, fags
Be honest bros... how cooked am I?
damn, I'm actually goated!>emissaryit's phantom now, chuddie.
>>558099719funny way to spell big fat horsecock
>>558099482prior last update with the five new heroes felt like the comeback potential was far stronger idk what happened but every game is just decided by whoever fed who in laning stageshit sucks
>>558099719Only in werewolf form
>>558093925>enemy team straight up admitted theyre going to spend the whole game targeting me as Rem>they lost but made me 1:16:8What the actual fuck, why would they do this
>>558099854because fuck you in particular, thatch why.
>>558094991>>558095085>>558095879>>558096096I was honestly pretty checked out of that game by that point, we were getting stomped so hard and Venator already had like 10 deaths 14 minutes in. I had a really fucked up lane (that I was actually beating until gigafed lash showed up). We ended up pulling together with good comms and winning.Pretty nice comeback. Except Ven, even the enemy started slagging him off on his 19th death, dying twice alone while we have rejuv.
Do you guys prefer gun builds or spirit builds
>>558098817Rising up and taking what she deserves
>>558100083Spirit builds are more fun because spirit items are more interesting whereas gun items are all boring ass stat increases
>>558099719Yeah and that's incredibly hot
>>558098817Getting dom'd by shota's brattier than her
>buy spirit resilience>apollo's ult becomes useless
>>558100032>getting stomped pretty hard>only fucking 8k down, barely even a 10% deficitWhat is it with you crybabies sometimes
>>558099752Guys?
>>558100083Gun builds because I can aim and don't have to cope that pressing button and seeing damage happen in a big AoE is more interesting.
>rem is lane hitler>graves is braindead and lane hitler>silver is ass>venator is a risk of rain 2 dlc character>celeste is insanely op>apollo is braindeadthese heroes sucked
Hitting people while they air dash around is basically impossible for me
>>558100083melee builds > spirit builds > gun buildsGun builds are alright but I much prefer spirit or melee.
>>558099482I've had a lot of snowballing matches but also a lot of comeback matches, but you have to get on voice and coach your team. I know it's reddit brained to not call them faggots for feeding, but you have to remind them you get extra souls from creeps from being behind and let the waves come to you etc. A 20k lead at 80k souls is a lot less than a 20k lead at 150k souls. Also remind them about items that counter enemy heros, yes even at high ranks, because most people are brainless auto pilots and will wait to get any counter items until their last slot instead of building them early.Pubs are just... remarkably bad at mobas. They don't understand anything other than last hit>make money so you have to make the item and decision choices for them
>>558099719Fine by me
there really is no way to win when valve's niggered up matchmaking puts you with 3 braindead retards who haven't touched a keyboard before
>>558099482Just play brawl and enjoy life
Silver has hairy pits pussy asshole and legs btw
>>558101075hell yeah
>>558100387tags? nipple_biting, shotadom, mindbreak
i feel like the towers dont really do enough damage
>>558101075Imagine cuddling with her under the covers about halfway through the night you'd have to toss them off because she's too warm.
>>558101075>PitsHell yeah>PussyHell yeah.>AssholeOH HELL YEAH>LegsHELL NO I'M GONNA FUCKING VOM BRO
>>558101245They don't They will never get buffedThank you for playing!
Graves has hairy balls btw
>completely ignoredIt's over.
>>558100491>soul difference is the whole storyWhy are you getting so emotional?
Am I retarded or Infernus is weak? Despite getting practically perfect build for him in brool it feels like I'm tickling my enemies. Even headshotting squishy carries feels like shit.
>>558100820I'm in upper phantom and it's a grab bag of competent players and people who never look at their map and just run into ganks or just wander around doing nothing
>>558101393Get closer, stack buildup is affected by falloff
>>558101245The towers offer nearly no threat and have almost no hp. They need to beef them up to make games last like 10 minutes longer because as it is T2 die to creeps alone with no issue. Give the statues outside base regeneration too like dota T3 towers so you have to be ready to full commit to them
>>558101075How hairy...
>>558101491>10 minutes longerAnon people already hate 40 minute matches
>>558101393he's been power creeped
>>558098476gubami
>silver shits his pants, goes 1-7>"durrr this game gets so boring when you get higher rank"die silver players die
>>558101376>implying i said thatJust seen too many niggers take a slight loss early and cry it's a stomp because they didn't get the lead right from the offYou call an 8k soul diff at 14 mins a stomp, I call you a faggot
>>558101436Yeah that's why ypu literally tard wrangle them all day like you're the chaperone on the short bus. Just like telling retards not to eat thumbtacks you have to tell them to build healing reduction for Victor or get curse for Mina >>558101649Well those people are retarded. At least give the t3 statues and shrines regen or they'll literally die to creep chip damage over time. Zipline is too powerful of an escape that's available to anyone pushing for free
>>558101673if by power creeped you mean "nerfed 15 times in a row because he was Hitler to play against and reddit complained"
>cringe as fuck Rem is crying the entire game about how he's not a meta hero and about how the game is taking too longi swear some people need to have their keyboards taken away from them
>>558101393he's lowkirkeuinely weak
Has anyone tried that Magic Carpet Graves build? Is it any good or just a giant meme?
>>558101801I agree about giving base defenses regenDunno about buffing the hp of the tower and walker, just massively increase their damage output. As you said the game has a massive problem of the towers not being a threat, we just got at least 3 new characters that can dive them with 0 consequences
>>558102040this shit is mega op, I abused it to make it to oracle 1
>>558101710It was a stomp because we were getting stomped and this continued after the webm too. Just because the soul diff was "only 10k"(you might be surprised but they also took the walker after killing two people under it). There was a point where we lost all walkers and hadn't even gotten green guardian. It was a stomp but we pulled together and won. I never gave up but we were getting stomped. Don't see how that makes me a faggot
>>558102192>Don't see how that makes me a faggotBecause you called it a stomp like a babby and are now trying to play it off
What’s the biggest soul difference you’ve ever closed?
>>558099719>>558100364>>558100842>uhhhhh we furries are NOT zoophiles honest!!!lolAnyway you have to go back to deviantart
>>558102304I think about 40k and I once actually won with a 20k deficit at a point where that would actually matter. If it gets to 40k it's near impossible to make a comeback I feel like and 50k you might as well accept the loss because unless the enemy team all decide to sit in your fountain with their rejuv and leaving your shrines up it's over.
>>558102293It was a stomp though? And I never played it off, I called it a stomp like 8 times in that post. And now you're getting emotional. Soul diff isn't the whole story and 10k at 14 minutes isn't exactly counter evidence to the classification. We were getting stomped, why do you disagree? We were getting killed over and over while farming or trying to get comeback urns and losing every fight. What do you call that?
>>558094480>Pick a shit fight>Get immediately dunked on>Try to run out to save your own skin leaving your Viscous for dead>He also bails and ends up inadvertently taking you out with himJustice
>Graves x Apollo becomes a thing>They get targeted by the friends of HumanityLearn from Grey Talon. It's not worth it.
>>558102063I guess that makes sense since increasing their damage will kill creeps faster and make pushes harder, making them feel like they're doing more hp damage. They need better attacks and shit too because the guardian and walker look like they're unity store assets from another game. I know it's "prealpha" but they couldn't get some mystical king/mother ghost or shrine in supernatural noir NYC instead of a scifi mecha?
>practicing billy against bots before taking him into a real match>spamming light melees on bots because they never parry it>assume light melees can't be parried and wonder why they aren't done more>try it in first real match>parried on second swing and killed a minute into the matchWish the bots were smarter
>>558101485I was within like 15-20m from my target and it was still rather underwhelming. Not even talking about doing literal 0 damage to Abrams despite having spirit burn+toxic bullets.
>>558094480>>558102530>running through group of enemies>lose all your health because of it>rage when you dieI've got a bad habit of trying to take a shortcut through a group of enemies but at least I know it's my fault for being greedy when I die
There needs to be an active item that counters counterspell.
>>558102885Curse should disable counterspell.
the number of characters who can get by with just kinetic dash and point blank for items is way too high.
>>558102923kino
>melee venator just deletes me in a millisecondcool
>get girl teammate>check her matches after>Rem, Celeste, Paige>get another>check her matches after>Rem, Celeste, PaigeAre they the egirl trinity roster?
>>558102937this is a person who fundamentally does not understand the issue, you nerfed mystic shot and cultist enough, there will always be a 3k and 1.6k combo people rely on, youre just gonna muscial chairs the fucking items
>>558102923never respect an abrams player
>>558095890I mean that is how tf2 workscs is a bit of a different story but they are even kind of like that.the hair models for example are separate meshes to the rest of the body, so I would assume at the very least we already will have different base skins, hair, and guns/projectiles
>>558103058won't un-rape you i'm afraid
>>558102923Did you put it to wumbo?
Genuinely had one of the worst matches of my life. I'm going to just fucking uninstall.>Kelvin and I lane against Victor and Lash>Try to help him out, can't finish up>Suffer, try to play passive but get picked off when I try to support Kelvin in the 2v2 or Kelvin gets picked off when he helps me>Die a bunch, Victor gets fed>Team understandably yells at me>lose in 20 minutesI feel bad for my teammates. I should have just ragequit and let them leave instead of forcing them to play this match. Fuck my life.
infuser was too good as a T1, and it's still too good as a T4the game would be healthier if infuser was removed and a different spirit lifesteal active replaced it
I'm not a one trick pony I got like fhoa
>>558103164I'm sure it's not that ba-Jesus Christ.
>>558103282>infuser T1I forgot about thatBeing able to instanuke people in lane as Mirage sure was something
>>558103164shit dudemaybe you should uninstall
>>558103164Get back on the horse, you pussy.
>>558103164>43k souls>in 24 minuteswewlad
>>558103164Two pieces of consolation1) You weren't the only one eating shit2) The fact that you recognize you ate shit is a good sign, hang on to that and let it keep you humble the next time somebody on your team eats shit
>>558103164oh man you fed a game and lost that's never happened to anyone you're the worst player of all time
>>558103164>Seven still manages to go 0/3Kinda embarassing for him
>>558103164>venator game>go 0/5 in lane>teammate also goes 0/5>look up>both right laners also went 0/5>left lane got like 3 kills total, also died a tonWe all did so shit that at least none of us were mad at eachother
>>558103164probably a smurf anyway
>>558103164today i laned against an eternus 6 smurf and instead of losing gracefully he went 1v11 mode and flamed his whole team while feeding on trophy collector calico you can always be a worse teammate
>>558103530Hard to get kills if Victor kills them all before you can even reach them
>>558103531Yeah, I fucking hate when people are continuously blaming when all of it is the enemies fault and no matter what they did nothing would change that outcome.
>>558103164>0/7/0 chudatorI think your whole team was not very bright
>>558103164Maybe it's time to take a break, anon.
>>558103164>team yells at meThe only person on your team who has any room to talk is the Celeste. If someone else spoke they're retarded because almost all of you sucked shit.
what's the startup on heavy melee?
>>5581037791s
>>558102501>it was a stomp because it was a stomp even though we were only 10k downbla bla bla keep trying
>made it to phantom>still cant parry on reactionlol
>>558101075>>558101607
>>558104164phantom today is ritualist 6 months ago
You guys think Graves uses the Lich's hand to masturbate?
>>558104335that's how she found she could use the hand as a weapon. That was never the intent initially.
>>558103164>not a single healbane>not a single spirit res>not a single slow>not even an attempt to counter victorhe should've farmed you all even more.
highest skill floor/ skill ceiling characters?
>>558104251Okay, and?
How often do you guys get counterspell?Is it a good investment, even if you arent all that quick on the parry key?I am thinking of adding it to my builds after seeing some clutch videos
>>558104704Top 3 item in the game. You should be buying it most games.
>>558104634Probably Doorman
>>558104704counterspell is uniquely broken, you should learn how to use it, some characters become C tier by virtue of using this well, pocket, apollo, lash, etc...
>>558104635What he means is that rank doesn't matter. Yoshi is boosting everyone so streamerfags can get games instead of sit in 10+ minute queues timers.
>>558104704i buy it in 90% of my games it is very overpowered
>>558104771>pockethow
>>558104704every game against bebop and lash without question
>>558103164You’re not the first person to feed a Smurf and lose and you won’t be the last. Don’t take this shit too seriously. I’d recommend you actually get items to counter if someone’s giving you issues though, most builds have them. Just read them and then see what did the most damage to you
the "counter spell the lash ult" meme is really catching on
>>558104842counterspell his only worthwhile spell? counterspell his cloak satchel cold front combo? how not
>>558104842you can parry the suitcase
>>558104873>>558104939how do you get the timing right though? he can pop it whenever he wants
>>558104704Easily the strongest item in the game. I don't think it's ever bad.
>>55810504390% of pockets value is affliction, any amount of prediction on your part and you should be able to react, I dont know what to tell you other than in eternus people can counterspell my ult if I use it predictably
Any advice for mina? it feels like i'm always around the middle of the pack in terms of hero damage, is that supposed to be normal? or should I be topping the charts?
how is this game so hard man, my aim is bad but I'm challenger in league and I have 150 games now still emissary 4. something isn't clicking. if I play to farm up I feel like I get strong but nothing ever happens near me and I end up with basically 0 kp and can never actually pressure walkers. if I play to come to fights after shoving it will be 6v5 and some how nobody commits to the fights and we just waste time or even lose the fight. I literally flank on drifter and my mo&krill or dynamo or rem will just not use ult and I'll die or get kited. then I watch high elo drifter vod and the dude just runs around barely even farming and anybody on his screen just flops even when he has barely any damage. I don't get it, in my head I would be able to play off my teammates or have them shadow me when I'm pushing but I'm perma just fighting people who run away and buy disarm and then their whole team rotates and my team does nothing. I'm actually tilted at how bad I am, if I wasn't so stubborn I would probably quit but I have to find out why I'm so bad
does anyone actually buy Phantom Strike?
>>558094207Need
>>558105305if you climbed another moba you should realize you are not playing the same game the people you are watching are, change your strategy to be more selfish, get stronger than anyone else on the map and win by carrying harder, if drifter isnt clicking pick someone who can carry harder by vacuuming farm like a braindead dipshit, warden, seven, wraith, etc.
>>558103164Don't feel to bad man, EVERYONE has games like this. What makes the difference is if you learn how to lessen the impact of losing a lane and strive to improve. Sometimes you gotta fold em, don't keep feedin. You'll make it eventually.
>>558105341me
>>558103164
>>558105341every game with abrams
>>558103164I had a great time not long ago, probably the best match so far. Very stressful as I focused super hard on not dying and taking the right fights while my team threw but very fun too.I'm super new (~15 hours) but watching F2NKe's guide video helped a lot.
>playing against good sinclairsMight be a fate worse than death
>>558105717I watched his guide too, and I tried to stay with Kelvin and take fights. I don’t know if it was our matchup or just our skill level but we couldn’t confirm kills. By the time we lost guardian it was already too late to stop the snowball
>Mina or Vindicta fly>Goo fist them back and forth between 2 buildings>Death moan to getting goo'dViscous canonically FUCKS the entire female cast btw
>>558103164My whole day yesterday was full of 1-2 death matches and most assists/heals and objective damage.Today I've gotten pretty similar results to you though.It's just how it is with this game. Sometimes it's a nice satisfying set of rounds, other times you want to uninstall and kill yourself and shove a remote up your asshole.
The cooldown on Abram's charge is way too long. Reinhardt's charge is 7 seconds or something.
>>558105305>my aim is badHow much damage are we missing here?
gargoyle
>>558105858My lane partner was Billy. After the first two times he died I stopped committing much to fights he started. He died like three more times after that before fully leaving lane. There isn't much you can do if your teammate keeps running at them.The only kills I got in lane were from enemies over committing but I purely focused on farm. Not sure what an Abrams would do in that situation though.
this game isn't fun enough to justify 1 game out of every 10 being evenly matchedIt's too hard to play safe in a lost lane so the new players given to either team will feed 20 kills to haze and then quit
just got carried by some girl playing drifter
>>558106642or as I like to call her, wife
i just realized mina has big thighs. That's hot.
heh
>>558106782based and true
>>558106896Disgusting creature
>>558103282They need to bring back t1 infuser, yes. That shit was fucking kino.
>>558106783If your age isn't on the clock she's not interested
>>558100737>melee buildsI want to learn Abrams and maybe another melee character but I'm at the rating where people will parry raw melees fairly often, what's the trick to it?
>>558106959do you seriously need to post your live reaction to the mirror?
>>558107115Mindgames with light melee/intentionally missing your heavies until they waste their parry then you start swinging.
>feed my ass off>type in all chat "trans rights!">I am forgiven for feedingIt's just that easy
>>558107115The easy way is to stun them first. The hard way is to learn to bait parries.
literally delete victor from the gameholy fuck what an insanely faggoty hero
>>558107058she's only attracted to money and influence and how it can benefit her. In all likelihood, she'd be a complete goldigger who tries to mask it by saying that she "prefers older men"
>>558107115There is no trick you just play abrams, billy, bebop or viscous.I was hoping silver was gonna be more melee oriented but instead I get a gun burst character, I guess that's fine though.
>>558106689that twerent no girl
>>558094396>>558100387>>558107058why does this spam only happen during jeet hours
>>558107220bro your healbane?
>>558107298sadly the shotanigger is here all day
>>558107298you'd know jeet hours better than anyone here, vikram
I think there is nothing as sovlful as the 50/50 split between chuds and trannies in valve games.
>>558107559two sides of the same coin
>>558105305league of legends will teach you bad habits about mobas because of the very strict team roles and heavily choreographed game flow.pressure lanesshove the waves inyou don't need to actually hit the buildings, just create map pressureif the entire enemy team shows, then you hit the buildingsonce you are strong enough that you can easily duel some of their heroes, you start actually pushing, once the entire team bar a hero you can duel is showing you pushwhen they show, you fuck them up and take the building, if they don't show, you just take the building.repeat until you are farmedjust don't diekeep up map pressureif you want to play a more aggressive and timing oriented line up and close games quickly, then you simply require more coordination than you will get in most pubs and especially pubs of your level.you are not going to be able to just run around raping people as drifter like you see in higher level games, if you are not getting the kill quickly, your team isn't doing their part, then just fuck off and don't die
>Celeste player starts yelling at me for dying twice and gets completely pissed off when he died when I tried to save his ass>Mute em and go help Silver as Abrams while Haze swapped lanes with me>Ended up helping Silver get MVP with over 30 assistsAbrams 2, combined with Scourge and Torment is so fucking bullshit.
I'M CLOOMBING
>>558108083I miss being a low rank shitter playing Lash. No one bought counterspell. But now that I'm an ascendantshitter everyone fucking buys its and it pisses me off!
Graves and Silver making out sloppy styley/y
>>558107058need a noble, cocky, sadistic shota to dominate mina
What do I play if I wanna stomp ritualist games
>>558103164He penetrates my butthole. It hurts so much, but I do it for Lash!
>>558108325Seven
>>558108158>play lash>entire enemy team buys counterspell and spellbreaker at 15 minutes even though our most dangerous person on our team is a fucking haze and vyper >play against lash>teammates can't even fathom buying spirit resilience against an entire team of spirit vomitersThe inclusion of this item has lowered my enjoyment of half the cast drastically.
The shitty matchmaking is really burning people out, they need to prioritize it quick
>want to play Warden>have not played Warden in 2 years>it still has him as "rating above average" for me>going to have to relearn him against people who are on heroes they know and have been playing recentlyfuck
>>558108325Billy, warden, seven, abrams
>>558108505>go like 5/20 >rank up entire division anywaywhat the fuck am I supposed to make of my skill level? I'm the most boosted player ever
>>558108549I'd say >>558108549 these are your top picks but I'd also add Victor and Wraith on that list.
>>558103038>>check her matches afterHow can one do that?
>>558108734In the post-game stats you can view profile, then view all match history in the top right.
EVERY APOLLO PLAYER SWALLOWS HIV+ LOADS OF CUM DAILYFUCKING RETARDED ANIME CHARACTER HE'S NOT EVEN FROM THIS FUCKING GAME IT'S LIKE FIGHTING A FUCKING MUGEN CHARACTER FUCKING DIE FAGGOTS
I don't understand Drifter:>Second ability has him teleport behind his opponent>Ult covers everyone's screen>But he's a gun heroShouldn't this nigga have some melee items in him? Every build is just on hit shit.
Sirs, please do not the pony.
>>558109025
*kills Dynamo*>"Now what was his wife's name again? Marla....."
Graves' PISSY CUNNY
>>558109297Graves the kinda bitch that pisses herself when she cums too hard
>>558108429Vyper…
Another stomp, Mina was really running it down and just pushed all game.
>>558109216*kills Graves*>It’s fun when they’re young like thatThis nigga is EVIL
I changed my mind, I don't want to climb anymore. Oracle is such a hotspot for raging dimwits what the fuck.Put me back into the bottom ranks at least they don't pretend to be good (most of the time).Now why so many just spam brool
>>558099752Anyone?
>marry Geist>fuckGraves>killRem
>>558109342That’s Paige actually
Can I go a single match without some literal spic beaner subhuman feeding 0-15?
>>558109448They both do it but Paige apologizes repeatedly when it happens and Graves just loses all brain function
>>558109438tier lists are gay
>>558109164>no tramp stampgarbage
PullBack
sovl vs. sovlless
>>558102040i don't think you need magic carpet to reach rooftops, sounds like the guy that made this build doesn't have a jump key.at the worst if you wanted to do this you could just buy warpstone and have an actually useful item (warpstone to parry people winding up to punch your ult is probably pretty good).
>>558109548VALVEHIRE THIS MAN
>lane partner never fucking clear wavewhat are these animals?
>>558109583more like valve fired this man
>>558109634brawl player accidentally queued normal matches.
>lane partner clears wave instead of maintaining equallibriumsigh
Valve should add a tanuki to deadlock!
>>558108548god that was miserable
>>558109634They're confused overwatch players trying to work out where the objective for the map is so they can ignore it
imagine being a sovl vs. sovlless retard for a 18 month old alpha game
>>558109754god i could just imagine the gigantic balls dangling violently from her penis
>>558109769you did your best that's all that matters
>>558109634I get the feeling you do nothing but pve for 10 minutes
i turned off voicechat
>>558109754Too much overlap with Hoodwink
I’m sorry I’m such a failure. I’m trying my best to be good, but it’s not enough.
>>558109959same bro, same
>6 game lose streak>go up a rankummm? thanks I guess
had a rough patch the other day when trying some new characters but we are back to green town today
you can just tell your lane partner is outputting 0 pressure, which is honestly seldom but you can just tell
Haze is Missing
>>558109909So did I. Not exactly interested in retards screaming completely redundant calls.
>BRO STOP GOING INNo.
>>558109754Someone who could disguise as like a sinner or something would be cool, similar to Neeko
>>558110016the only time I really get pissed off by this is if I am 1v2 but I still have to kill the wave, some people really just sit there watching you do everything, its insane
>Valve should add a (Insert fetish here) to deadlock!mmmmm, nyo I don't think so.
Am I a lobotomite if I find Graves fun?
>>558110316who are you quoting
>105 kills in 33 minutesbroolkino
>>558110317Only if you think you're not getting carried by her kit
>>558110316Every character from here on out should be a fetish character.
>>558096435>underwhelming and poorly implemented brawl modeHuh??? Street brawl is great. What is your complaint with it?
years from now characters like graves will be considered outdated...
>>558110417He’s probably gonna cry that it’s not full random or some shit
>>558098179valve should just man up and make this canon
There's no way to implement a hero that doesn't, in some oblique way, pander to at least one persons unique fetish
why do gay talon players get mandatory "WOW AMAZING" voice lines from other characters for hitting their 1s?
Every Deadlock character is a fetish.
WHO WAS THE DROOLING FUCKING MONGOLOID WHO THOUGHT IT'D BE A GOOD IDEA TO GIVE PUDGE AN INFINITELY SCALING AOE NUKE
>>558110484Not one person has sexualized or tumblerized Sinclair yet.
>>558110316What fetish is a tanuki representing???
>>558110594There's no way getting fucked by a mannequin man isn't someone's fetish
>>558110559But enough about Boss Baby.
>>558110316learn to ignore the coomers
>>558110702Blitzcrank then you gargantuan faggotThe point stands
>>558110559>pudgewe call him blitzcrank in here tourist
Shiv's here. We can't let him collect trophies.
>>558110752goku*
>>558110485Because the game wasn't designed to have more than 20 characters.
mid oracle I am starting to lose games. better macro, better teamfighting and itemization. so this is how it starts, eh?
i wish i had a cute bf to play deadlock with
>>558110485>graves player mad because someone skillfully landed a skillshot
>>558110559>>558110752he's more like roadhog
>>558110752But enough about Back at the Barnyard.
I hope the next 3 heroes are the mind control fetish hero, the instant loss fetish hero, and the NTR fetish hero.
>teammate gets my hero>they perform better than I would've
>>558111086But we already have Paige, Graves, and Mina
>>558098142Abrams is so attractive bros..
After testing Rem a little I noticed if you point blank sleep someone and IMMEDIATELY follow up with a pillow you don't wake them up from the damage. So you can sleep > pillow > pillow again or melee
>>558111162NTR-kun...
>Graves got 3 nerfs back to back almost immediately>Celeste has been allowed to run rampant for nearly 2 weeks with just a slap on the wristI don't get it.
The game is unplayable slop right now. Meta is too strong; non-meta is useless. Third of the characters are Hitlers while the rest are useless or take three times to effort.Even winning I'm not having fun. BORING. Game was better in 2024.
>>558111201I don’t get the Paige one..
>Play mostly with friends>They are not very good>Can usually hard carry them on Haze>Trying other M1 heroes like Venator and Wraith feels like suffering in comparisonI can't tell how much of this is a skill issue and how much of it is the nature of the characters. It feels like when my team isn't doing much that I have way less agency to get anything done by myself or be proactive at shutting down the enemy team trying to get a lead.
>>558111162See what they did right and copy them
Why don't I see many Graves or Silvers anymore?There's a Venator, Apollo, Rem, and Celeste in every single match, but Graves and Silver seem to be in every other match at best.t. Phantom 1.
>learning mina haaaaa>lane match up is silver>my s2 doesn't exist
>>558111605graves is boring and silver is hard, theres a lot of silver in eternus but she might be hard enough to play that people are discouraged in phantom
They need to step back for a while from the Halloween cliches and go back to the NYC cliches for a while for the next heroes. I want an Italian mobster.
>>558111605All the new heroes have been in every match if mine every since they were released
>>558111631drink some g fuel and 2 their bola
>>558111605i see silver every game
>punch venator gives him lots of resistance and high hp>on top of a stunyeah this guy needs a heavy nerf.
>>558111705Nah Graves is fun when people randomly explode on tombstone parry
Would this game improve if there was no minimapwas first person onlyhud elements like teammate and enemy stats, builds, net worth were hiddenand there was no timer at the top of the screen?
>deadlock has no black king bardoes yoshi hate black people
>>558112147what about the bar infernus works at dumbas
>>558110316this is exactly why they should add electroswing into the game
>>558112147unstoppable?
>>558111995>first persondropped
>>558112317isn't first person usually considered more competitive than third person where you have built-in wallhacks
>>558099752What characters should I focus on?
>0/9/0 seven on my team>check build>gun seven
>>558112436nobody is trying to look at your fucking tier list man, just play whatever you have the most fun with
>>558112447>Another 'me good, team bad' post
>>558111319don't expect anything other than the most shameless apologetics from this general. /dlg/ has consistently and repeatedly said the game is fine (until of course, they patch the game and then whatever they changed had always been broken and NOW its perfect)
>>558112436idk bro you said "cooked" and "didn't vibe with" so you seem annoying and should probably just go drink bleach
wait a minute this game is still in alpha, nothing I do mattershehe.. nothing I do matters... hehehehe *devillish grin*
>>558112550hey it's better than the "me smart, everyone else is incapable of reading" crowd that infest gacha generals
>>558112640no one intelligent is in a gacha general
>>558112636nothing ever matters
>>558112663>everyone is retarded except meyou are the exact type of person I was describing
>>558112703youre in the deadlock general you stupid cunt
>>558112550more like>why is he doing so bad>oh
>enemy team has an apollo and/or graves>mood instantly ruinedlet me ban these fuckers already please god
>>558112778you're on 4chan retard you're not better than anyone herepeople over at /g/ think their board is the only one that is not "cancer" like "shit" boards like /v/truth is, they are no better
>>558112972gachanigger you are subhuman, the only reason you can pretend you are equal to anyone else here is anonymity, dont ever fucking forget that you worthless double digit nigger
>>558108894You can delete him from the game with one item purchase, crybaby.The same people who have been whining about Haze since 2024 and never buy counter items are now going to whine about Apollo in perpetuity, great.
>>558112865they're B tier at best just buy counter items
>play against apollo>buy slowing hex and/or spirit shielding>play against annoying m1>buy disarm and cursesimple as
>>558094480i'm making a folder at this point.
>>558113217What counters graves?
The problem with GT isn't that he's an old man, it's that he's a bow character and bows have negative aura
>It's another "team ignores the victor and refuses to get healbane/inhibitor"
How do I stop getting raped by Lash?
Is Spirit Sap/Rusted Barrel good to buy?
>>558113409the problem with gt is having to drive his fucking bird
>>558111995so u want to play a regular team based shooter?there are plenty of them, go play them, this is a moba.
>Silver, Graves, MinaWhy is valve spoiling us with futas?
>>558113402idk I'm actually just saying stupid shit to fit in. metal skin?
I hope the next 3 heroes>>558113538>omitted the biggest futa cock
>>558094737Abrams is God-tier. Abuse him while he's absurdly broken. You cannot fuck up as this hero. Recommended builds are salty abrams, iphonz abrams or crayon gun build.Victor is a valid choice until you hit Oracle or Phantom, then he drops off a cliff unless you play with a friend who's gonna play support to babysit you while you're weak (Kelvin + Victor synergy is sleeper OP).Haze plays pick assassin that scales into a carry late game, always viable, but she's squishy so you can easily get CC'd, burst down and exploded if your positioning, timing and pickings aren't ideal for the better length of the game. Use Parzelion's Haze build.Warden JonJon build is close to fool-proof.Mirage is supposedly OP, I just never see him because he is the most boring hero in the game.
GT's bird should be replaced with a thunderbird that comes straight down from the heavens like a pagan predator missileIt would instantly elevate him into coolest hero status
>>558113434Rusted barrel is very underrated into a enemy gun lane, you can literally use it every minion wave. Spirit sap is funny because it makes heroes that deal tic damage like Graves and Infernus deal literally negative damage
>>558113714That's just a CoD killstreak.
I think if they reworked paradox, the carbine would be the first thing to go
>>558113980it is 1000% gonna be the wall btw
>>558113980the only thing that needs to go is the bomb it doesn't fit her at all
Graves sucking my balls off.
I can't believe it took me nearly a year and a half to realize this, even though I'm an Ivy main, but heavy punching immediately after doing your entire combo is free and deals more damage than her gun could ever dream of, it can often lead to an instakill. I only started doing this because people kept trying to parry the air after I stunned them.Hope this helps others who don't care about watching competitive, since none of the usual youtubers would ever dare play Ivy, not even for 2 seconds and Valve is set on never letting her gun deal any damage.
>>558114051pov: you're a diddy blud
>>558113753When buying it what would you generally buy it over different items, or do you just sorts get it if you plan to go disarming hex?
>>558113964And? Graves ult is just attack dogs and drifter ult is counter UAV, retard
>>558114039It wouldn't be a deadlock hero without a generic grenade skill 1.
We need female version of Venator but she just insteadd sits on your face and suffocates you with her thighs.
>>558114127>When buying it what would you generally buy it over different itemssorry what? I don't understand.You don't need to keep it, you can just sell it later. Disarming hex is a bit better now that debuff remover is nerfed.
>>558114276I mean, because during laning phase there's generally a handful of items you'd normally buy, right? If I were to grab rusted barrel in a game while it's only 800 souls it'll still be that I'm buying over something else I'd normally buy if that makes sense..
>reanimation is just tactical insertionbros, are we actually a CoD clone this whole time?
Guys...
>>558114461>tranny icons
are they gonna force silver again in the next night shift?
>>558114461Yeah that art is genuinely gay and shit
>>558114538I think most teams realized they overvalued her but shes still gonna be abrams/shiv tier in prio, expect her to get picked within the first 3 every game still
>play bebop>point his hitscan at the soul before it even pop>get denied anywaywhat the fuck?
how do i get over the fact that no one else in this game knows how to play from behindi swear 90% of players think this isn't a moba and that you're always as strong as the enemythey'll go out trying to gank enemies on their side of the map and commit to it when the rest of the team isn't close enough to follow upthey'll avoid farming waves because they're retarded and would rather lose a walker if it means they get to farm ONE more medium campno one looks at the minimap ever, no one is aware of waves, no one is aware of missing heroes, no one has any idea how long it takes to rotate, and no one will ever follow up on something unless you scream down the mic so loudly that their brain gets overwhelmed and follows your command without hesitation (but with the execution of someone several ranks below you)
>>558114461that one is cool and all but I kind of wish they would make an icon pack using AI to turn everyone into either gigachads or basedjaks. It'd be funny how stupid and unnecessary it would be
How big is Celeste's rod...
i want to marry graves after she becomes a single mom and adopt her children as my own
>>558114827*sigh* cursed to be a dota mastermind in archon... these plebians wont listen to my superior macro decision making...
>>558114848>wojak critical portraits>gigachad killstreak portraitsthat'd be sick
>>558113714Or the fire bird from Slavic folklore.
>>558114817yeah it was too good at denying enemy souls so they made it kind of shit at securing any souls including your own
I love apollo being in every single fucking match ever so balanced yesssss
>get midboss>start losing brool despite that>nobody wants to pull out>our carry dies a second time>people start pulling out but not at the same time>get picked off one by oneThis happens to me enough times that I want to try and find explicit answers to it
>>55811494840% winrate
>>558114885yes, this but unironically except i'm phantom
>>558114992woah...
>>558114885This but unironically, being a long time Dota player in the lower ranks is like having godmode.
>>558114948he is terrible and will probably go sub 45% WR
>>558114885yes? maybe not a MASTERMIND but how hard is it to look at the minimap for a second while rotating or farming a camp? or after several games realize that when the wave gets close it's bad and you should kill it
>>558114992>>558115019>>558115107alright niggas, I get it, you run boblow
>>558114980>>558115084>le 40 IQ postsNext you'll say Mina is bad
Mina is bad
>>558114885I just draw giant circles on the map for the retards in my midshitlow games
>>558114974not this situation but my "favorite" post-midboss occurence is my team's haze immediately running to the enemy's hard jungle camp and dying twice before anyone has a chance to realize what she's done
>>558113409well you said aura so I'm going to have to disregard your opinion
>>558115180I tend to draw "IVI" myself
>558115152love when niggers larp like they're above emissary.>heh. ur in low rank. im top 1 trapper in the world and my team has never made a macro mistake
>>558115373uh oh phantomchud meltie...
>>558114367Realistically it's only a 400 souls loss, after you sell it. And, if you get appropriate value out of it, the item pays itself through kills or the value it created by allowing you to get souls you otherwise couldn't because of oppressive gun damage.
>>558114885>accurate analysis of the games a player has been in makes them a midwit somehow
>>558113409Grey Talon would immediately become the most beloved character if you could press a button to spam a honk sound effect during his ult
>>558114827Don't ask in this thread, I posted something similar a while ago and people told me that you need to chase the enemy to their jungle when they're 20k souls ahead.
>>558113409Kinda true, Hunger Games did a number on the bow. Destroyed all of Legolas' hard work.
I feel like everyone below phantom is the same skill level, retards, there's no difference between a seeker and an Oracle player except maybe the Oracle dash jumps a little more often. Then phantom players just kinda suck, and it's not until you reach ascendant that people seem to know what's going on.All this to say that they need to rebalance ranks again and maybe cut the amount of ranks in half since it's so redundant.
>>558115559gotta make sure it's redundant
>everyone in this thread is ascendant+wow we're all so good!
>>558115559THE STREETS OF OSAKA
>>558115442I see, that makes sense. Thanks anon you've been a big help.
>>558115542fuck that twink
>>558115559*summons a rice field*In here I am emperor
>>558115693I am ascendant 4 and I have never tried hard in this game ever, I just like to spam seven orbs and kudzu for lolz
>>558114532>>558114556Honestly I downloaded it because I wanted to see the gloat vs critical portraits and never uninstalled it. It reminds me of an old nickelodeon show about surfers or skaters I think?>>558114848This would be fucking based.
>>558115693online discourse is so fucked nowadayseveryone larps as a top tier player and just parrots pro player opinions ad nauseum>>558115770this genuinely made me laugh kek
>>558115785same i play with a blowtube and im eternusi dont even have parry bound
Lose
>>558115808I CCP Chairman in here
I think I played with a weird parry script bebop He would literally parry every single time I parried and I think it was so he couldn't accidentally get parried from light melees
if everyone gets a built in ability to deal with melee i think we should all start with metal skin and a new item called spirit skin which does exactly what you think it does
How do I improve my mental? Whenever some faggot goes 1/14/2 while behind 15k souls I get so frustrated. How are these people even human?I had it happen three games in a row.I think its retards queuing with their friends who are brand new, placing them in a lobby they dont belong in, and instantly losing the game for everyone else.
>>558115693there's too many people who live and die off winrate as a sign of balance for that to be true
>>558115808 I'm emissary 5 and i think my opinion unironically matters when I say that I want Lash to be a not ult bot.
everyone is here eternus btw no pisslows allowed
>>558116148u r a midwit n i will not engage with uur bad
>>558116176the rest of his kit will be buffed to do damage and can scale but his ult only pulls 1 person now and it no longer has as much horizontal range
The fact that anons here think reaching eternus or ascendant is some grand feat just shows how doodoo they are
>>558116176competitive gaming/esports have ruined balance discussionsit's very strange that people don't realize that the majority of the game is below eternus and that they want to have a fun gaming experience. they also think that balancing for low skill players will always ruin the top player experience
>Devs put out patches every other day>Somehow the same meta garbage stays top tier for weeks/months on end
>>558116258or how new they are, we have several verified eternus players and even some that are notorious like song of silk and yet they will cope that theres no way they are arguing with legit players
do /lolg/ posters imply that everyone should be able to easily hit challenger
>>558116148They're following advice from /dlg/ eternuses who say you should play aggressively when you're behind in souls.
>>558116276low skill players like fucking around and exploring things, making things for top players lets them do that bro.
>wondering why objectives are taking massive damage to even single waves>load bot lobby and watch green>creeps run straight under walker and force it to either slam and miss half the wave or ignore them entirely>base guardians "melee" glitches out and can't knockback creeps meaning only one of them is actually doing anything(targeting the creep being healed to full by the glitched melee)Did all the focus go to street brawl
>>558116324>we have eternus players in thread>that means every single person in this thread is eternus and if you disagree with the twitter tranny hivemind you're seeker
>"does not interrupt channeling abilities">it does
>>558116431makes up shit nobody said to seethe about award
im eternus btw just thought anons should know that
From now on you must all have tripcodes and post your ranks for your opinions to matter
>>558116405>le trickle down balanceyou still can't be thinking this in 2026. like come on
What are the most important movement techs to learn?
>>558116176I miss playing him as a roamer that ganked while being really sticky back when you weren't supposed to tell people about this game or share shit online.
>>558115267You are retarded.
>>558116557Ass blasting and shuffle gangnam boosts
>>558116181I never got used to those massive pecs, they just look out of place
>>558116557the quirk chungus deluxe
>>558116468>player posts experience>"only shitlow players experience this, you are dumb, bye bye">isn't an experience unique to shitlow ranksit happens like clockwork
>>558116557Learn to slide after literally everything you do. (even mantling)Learn to not constantly dash like a retard and waste stamina.Learn to wall jump.
>>558116131this but unironicallyrebuttal is a bullshit item btw
IdeaDoing the crouch air dash to fall to the ground faster should stun an enemy hero if you land on them
>>558116812tie it to metal skin and you have yourself a deal
>>558116276dota is balanced for all skill levelswhy do you think deadlock will be any different?plenty of heroes have been nerfed despite being awful in pro play for example because they were good at lower ranks, riki is a prime example of a hero who was getting nerfed for years because he would stomp low level games despite being dogshit.after this clearly wasn't working he started getting reworked for years until he could achieve a reasonable balance.and there are plenty of other examples of this being the case for dota.sure, some heroes are dogshit at low level and good/balanced at high level, but that isn't exactly an issue because plenty of people DO actually do well with them at low levels its just they have a higher skill floor or knowledge requirements so most people who try them cannot properly pilot them on their first try and do poorly
xQc is playing Deadlock again
>>558116812Wait you can crouch air dash? This game has fucking fast falling???
>>558115559They should have never introduced visible ranks and should at this point be confident enough the system doesn't work and just go back to hidden MMR. It was introduced around the same time as the hero labs panic button when people were doom and gloom and "Deadlock has flopped" made them freak out about playercounts. Now it's a continuous sore and makes the bad matchmaking even more obvious
>>558116874dota actually isn't balanced at all skill levels because you see that certain heroes perform disproportionately well at lower ranks
>>558116891xQc is too stupid to enjoy this game
>>558116894yes, also if that impresses you do you know about source physics quirks involving velocity that it retained from quake partially
>>558116894Yeah, I honestly don't know what use case there is for it though, maybe it's helpful for heroes like GT and Vin who I don't play
>>558116874real midwit hours lmao
>>558116987The only Source quirks I know are surface-level stuff that's relevant to TF2 like air-strafing and crouch jumping
>>558116891>the guy who bought ricochet as his second item and died to a campWhy should I care?
>>558116891>>558116956He egoed on twitter when someone laughed at him for pic rel
i made a tierlist around how annoying i find playing against certain charactersim not very good at the gamesome of these i put higher because even if they have good counter items, it feels really annoying to have to buy some of themim trying to rate them as if they were balanced perfectly and just around the kinds of play patterns they push u toward
>>558116946such as?some heroes do better at certain ranks, yes, but disproportionately? nolike spectre does better at low ranks right now, but shes a 54% winrate hero across all game and 53% winrate in her rank with the lowest winrate, which isn't on the upper or lower end of ranks, a 55% winrate at the lowest rank isn't insane, its just some variance.very few heroes are more than a percentage point or two of winrate in any arbitrary rank vs another or their global winrate, heroes that are get rebalanced and changed.dota is balanced for every rankalways has beenalways will bedeadlock will be the sameeven if it takes a bit of timefeel free to provide examples if you disagree>>558117023go back to league of legends faggot
>tfw too unconfident to win a 1v1 skirmish when pushing a sidelane>so i just go brawl insteadmad?
>>558117069>>558117081you got click baited, he didn't actually die to the nuetrals even if he did buy ricochet second.
>>558117135I think he means heroes like Omniknight who have had periods of being disproportionately powerful at lower ranks while they're average or even mediocre at the highest levels
>>558117114How is pocket honest by yamato isn't.
>>558117135check invoker winrates
>>558117114How is gay talon more honest than venator
>>558117114You haven’t had a good Mirage in your games
>>558117114A good vyper player is the most obnoxious mega nigger lane opponent with her 300+ damage venom with very little soul investment
How long until this game has some semblance of balance? It's so boring to play against the same 5-10 heroes every single game
I need Lady Geist paizuri
I'm fucking retarded in lane.>When do i shoot at minions vs shooting at heroes?>When should I push up?>When should I fuck off to jungle or gank?>Should I wait for minions to kill each other or should I kill them myselves?I can literally do everything else, it's the early laning that I get fucked up on.
>>558117114>Struggling with graveshow bad do you have to be
>>558117147they did, 2nd item ricochet on haze is actually the ancient and still ultimate greed buy on her and he was speedrunning bad players with it because at the end of the day xqc is still a retired (albeit shitty ow tank) professional fps player
>>558117227NTA but Pocket is very honest, their 2 has a very loud and obvious telegraph and every Pocket player is trying to do the exact same thing, it's Bebop levels of predictability but without the mental terrorism of getting hooked Yamato is fine imo but I can understand it because she's a nigger in lane and if she gets fed the grapple feels like a death sentence
gun items are so superior to spirit items its not even funny. and to add insult to injury half of the spirit items work better on gun characters
>grab enemy carry as mo>team all stop shooting them for some reason instead of just focusing them down>they break out and kill everyone I'm even screaming in voice comms, man. Don't let the fucking haze with unstop, vampiric and ricochet survive she will just wipe you. They never listen.
anyone got that one silver gif
>>558117604
>>558117341literally never. if they are not willing to make any serious and dramatic attempts to balance the game in the nearly two years of the highly experimental closed playtest they will never make any real changes. expect to see those same 10 heroes in every match since no amount of half assed "+x% -y%" value tweaking will fix the fundamental problems of the cast or even the game itself
>>558117227yamato's grab feels a little too freebarrage feels slightly better to play against compared to powerslash because it isn't as all or nothing (also i swear the powerslash hitbox is still fucky)i also think his suitcase + coat stuff is pretty predictablepocket's ult is annoying like eczema and yamato's is annoying like one of those shits that makes you bleed>>558117268idk something about having to cower from venator ult feels more annoying than a lil minigame of dodging a birdi have a lot of fun trying to duck gt birds>>558117294i think ur right im gonna put him up to a lil annoying. i think what makes him balance out in my mind is that his ult (at my shit skill rank) feels like a blank in laning phase bc no one uses it to do anything useful, so laning against him feels ok besides le stack building character>>558117297yeah but it feels very all or nothing? it feels like if u can keep space it's nbd to be against her but i could be convinced to put her up a tier just bc it's annoying to have to cower during laning phase if u get below a certain threshold>>558117413im a shit player but the sites i see still have her at S or A tier depending on rank so it seems to be a universal thing lolanyways i dont like that she gets autoaimi dont like that she gets one of the most spammable ults in the gameim shit so killing the skulls is annoying and sometimes i fuck it upand the line is still kinda busted to me imoty for not bullying me too hard
>>558117668I'm only archon so don't bully me on this, but it's sad how much more "batteries included" newer heroes feel?? Like I feel like they do everything and it's a lot of bullshit and then I look at a guy like abrams and I wonder what went wrong
>>558117604hippy hops?>>558094285
how do you beat rem in laning phase anymore
>>558117761The term you're looking for is power creep. It's definitely not your imagination, it happened in dota as well and eventually they had to go back and update all the older heroes to have new mechanics so they could keep up with the newer heroes and all their bullshit
>>558117786this >>558094285 was the oneit is silly and makes me smile thank you
I want to heavy melee Holliday's barren womb with my cock
>>558117876i mean power-wise old characters still see good performance thobut it feels more like old characters are statistically strong and newer characters are... mechanically strong? or idk how to word it. they have stronger toolkits, but maybe worse numbersmaybe they'll do the dota thing and start by removing all passives and always having some kind of active thing even if the skill has a passive effect
the most annoying troons on xitter literally all use these portraits
only troons mod the gamethis is a factyes ui mods count
>>558117998The mod scene is proof that the overwhelming majority of gamers are tasteless
>>558117668dota randomly reworks huge aspects of gameplay on a regular basis
The game would be a lot better if Apollo would accidentally refer to Graves as "Darcy", and maybe even quickly correct himself after.
https://youtu.be/mjcuwfZrGEE>your teammate for tonight sir
>x isn't a problem because it's only good in low elo!!!ok, and most people are low elo. I'm not going to stick around and grind the game out if I'm playing against some 100% pick/ban turbocancer every single match. Especially in a Moba where they can just go farm your teammates even if you "git gud" enough to beat them on your own
>>558118052look at "bare silver" if you want a kek
Scalies genuinely think Ivy "saved" deadlock LMAO
>>558104704Honestly I go straight for unstoppable, it's much more reliable. I can't counterspell during channeling ults. Plus you can only parry every 20 seconds but unstoppable can cover you throughout your ults.Only a must buy if a bebop gets stacks.
>>558117998>i got mad on twitter>i should tell 4chan about this
>>558117998>Woah there are you drinking water, don't you know TRANNIES drink water? What do you have to say for yourself, huh?I use them because they're sovl. The Lash one is great
>>558118103the internet has ruined people's ideas of balancethey all parrot their favorite "competitive" esports eceleb without realizing the game is supposed to be fun for everyone, including low rank players
>Still no Vindicta feet pics despite being barefootVindictaKEKS have no excuse
>>558097754Its pretty common
>>558117998>that Drifterkeklink to mod?
>posts asking about gameplay>no replies>posts about waifu faggotry, shipping and feet>derails the next 30 posts
>>558109754Fuck off retard
>>558118190>admitting to using the tranny iconsbest post your rank to save yourself
>Lash caps out at 1 grapple charge without items even on max upgrade level, making Extra Charge or Rapid Recharge effectively mandatory>every new hero gets 4 charges for their charged abilities before the items are even counted
>>558108158Go flog lash. Slam procs the spellbreaker or they counterspell then hit them with a double flog through eco shard. Plus you have better sustain.
>>558118135You already made this post, get some new material
do you guys wanna crowdsource our own icon pack? like we all draw one or so heroes and we compile them and it could be sovl
>>558117685>anyways i dont like that she gets autoaimIt seems to boil down all to this, it makes shitters absolutely lose their fucking minds like Symmetra did in old Overwatch.Ignoring the fact that its insanely short range she can't use to poke in lane, and during team fights she has to get in people's faces as a character with zero built in sustain, mobility or durability. >i dont like that she gets one of the most spammable ults in the gameDoes zero burst damage and can easily be destroyed in most cases.>and the line is still kinda busted to me imoLiterally just dash away or double jump over it.
>>558118368Make a bunch of hero icons that are just wieners with different accessories to tell which hero they are, like a blue wiener with horns and a book
kelvin is the cirno of Ritualist matches
>>558118421>gun stuffthe problem with autoaim in a game like deadlock is that it's such a movement heavy game that part of the counterplay to gun is... dodgingbut what if you can't really dodge?>Does zero burst damage and can easily be destroyed in most cases.don't mind the macro implications and "easily destroyed" is funny considering she can put it just about anywhere and it just baits ur parries>Literally just dash away or double jump over it.doesnt mean it's not annoying? a stamina sink is frustratingdid u not read the post its about annoyance not "omg shes busted"(btw she has a strong WR at all ranks)
>>558118497What does this mean
>>558118542melees* not parries sry
>>558117114Hazebros, we need to work harder...
>>558118542>(btw she has a strong WR at all ranks)too bad winrate means nothing, Mina is one of the strongest heroes the game has ever seen and she has like a 46% winrate
>>558118421I don't think you've ever played GravesHer passive lets her trade extremely well in lane especially against gun heroes, she's more limited by her shit ammo capacity than her range
>>558118629i think if shes perfectly "balanced" shes not that bad? a long range, skill-based CC (but not just a straight up stun), a damage passive (you can play around it like most stack abilities), a getaway that isn't some bs like mina's two free blinks, and an ult that is basically just damagei guess the jungle stealing kinda gameplay is annoying, but lots of heroes can do that nowadays desu
>>558118641WR is not the gospel but that doesn't mean it gives no information. If a character has a positive WR and a high pick rate in literally every rank then it's pretty damn reasonable to say they're a strong character.
>>558118368>/dlg/ icon packCould be neat but how would you organize something like that in the irony-poisoned modern age? We're a long way gone from the era of Four Leaf Studios
they arent kidding about eternus 6 lobbies being a completely different game than the rest of eternus i get raped hard in them
>>558118641>winrate means nothingit does when i dont like playing against her and she is statistically likely to beat me regardless of who is playing hereither way i put mina in the tier below its not like i dont think shes annoying too, but her kit is annoying in a more traditional sense (strong mobility, annoying stack i need to think about, most free escape in the game, and a damage ult that also ccs because fuck you)i just dislike graves more because her macro w/ ult makes her into a choreif i lose a gunfight it usually feels like it's because she didn't need to bother aimingthe autoaim compounds on this because yea u can play around the line but im also having to aim and do other things while she can just walk and vaguely look at meand the skulls are annoying and i dont think anyone can actually convince me otherwise
>>558118821at minimum you'd need to give it a month or two for the /v/igger tourists to get filtered out
>pause match one second before patron is finished>entire chat starts seethingthis will never not be funny
>>558118821>ask for submissions>don't accept things that are unfunny or overly ironic>????>profitim sure some shitlord will get mad that his epic twitter tranny meme doesnt get in and try to make it into drama but i think its not too hard to filter the shit from the gold (even if its subjective)
I think I have to make a smurf account for the forum. None of my feedback gets any views since I made a post 1.5 years ago complaining about Russians in European matchmaking. Before that it was double digit thread views and Yoshi likes all over. I think they blacklisted me after I implied Russians were less than human in some private feedback.
>>558118684Literally just dont let her near you
>>558118905Kill yourself
>>558118954What did you expect, nigga?
pausing should cost soulsi like that it exists but too many people post a meme and make us wait 30 seconds instead of using it for a real reasonor people use it as an excuse to pee like hold it u fucking child
>>558116276>balancing for low skill players will always ruin the top player experiencedesu balancing for shitters ruins the experience for everyone>everything is watered down and simple>nothing to learn, nothing to execute, nowhere to grow
>>558118854>she is statistically likely to beat me regardless of who is playing herPeople should be legally mandated to take a statistics course before they're allowed to engage with them in public, that isn't how it works at all.
>play paradox yesterday >feel extremely confident going in, land combos quickly, feel like I'm in one of those montage videos>play paradox today>feel extremely scared like everything is gonna one shot me, combos feel clunky, often not casting the wall before swapWhat the hell happened, was I on some kind of high yesterday that let me play out of my mind
>>558118991I would much prefer they had banned me instead of shadowbanning me to gaslight me into posting feedback they aren't reading.
Who is the biggest rapebait in Deadlock?
>>558117998They're good portraits man.
Everything can work
>>558118954>complaining about Russians in European matchmakinYeah great fucking feedback, totally needed to make a forum post just like the other 2k+ messages that are SO helpful to the alphayou morons who just complain about MM and other players have zero social skills outside of your computer. learn to be useful in something youre invited to play jesus christ. why hasn't europe fallen from their own stupidity? oh right you have to lean on the US.. for EVERYTHING
Soon....
>>558118975Stay under your guardian while I eat your jungle
>>558119091vyper
>>558119091Mirage
>>558119091Graves and it isn't close
>>558119091Unfortunately by most objective metrics it's Viscous
>>558119037>confidently wrong midwit responsemany such cases
>>558119156it is literally always morally correct to shit on Russians
>>558119091Graves is actively being groomed, has two stamina, and has a skirt for easy access.
>>558119156Kill yourself zigger apologist. I have no problem with newer players, less skilled players or even the flaws of the matchmaking (easy to chalk that up to smurfing subhumans ruining it for everyone), Valve will likely fix all of that eventually. But Russians needed to be segregated from the rest of Europe because they never communicate in English and always sperg out and ruin everything when something doesn't go their way. It's a completely different issue to complaining about the matchmaking issues themselves.
>>558119037Genuinely, how is it not? If she wins 53/100 games, I would expect to have a 53% chance to lose when I'm against her with all other factors held constant. Now, there could be factors in my favor like every other character on their team being absolute shit, but in aggregate, we expect that to be the case. Now, there are things you can use to sway this. Like playing a character that's disproportionately strong against her or stacking a party with those characters. But we're talking about the aggregate. Me playing a random non-Graves hero and facing a graves.
I've always found it hilarious that every region has their own shitters that ruin games.For Europe it's Russians.For Asians is PinoysFor Americans it's Brazilians and Peruvians.
>>558119558dont bother, anon. they don't know what they're talking about (or are ragebaiting)
>>558118905BAAAAAAAAAAAAAASED. I do that when i get raped in lane, but thanks to my superior game sense from 10k hours in dota i always comeback.
>>558117395Prioritize shooting at minions but don't be a retard who only focuses on "me shoot minion haha", defend yourself and shoot retards who sit in the open as well. You basically want to play around cover/veil especially if you're a shotgun character like abrams.
>>558117228yeah, and?hes worse at low rankswhat is your point?hes a hero who requires more mastery to make work, bane has the same winrate because bane requires teamwork.you seem to think heroes being difficult to execute means that less skilled players who casually try them is a problemits a problem when a hero is broken at low ranks and stomps people while being shit at high ranks, a hero being difficult to use isn't an issue, at a low rank you can still just learn to play them even if most people who give it a try will suck and not play them again. yeah his winrate 3.5% different between his highest and lowest based on rank(49.94% at herald vs 53.41% at immortal), but its obviously only an issue when its higher at low ranks, it means hes balanced for all levels of play when hes not egregiously broken at a certain rank.
>>558119890holy midwit seethe
Mo&Krill main here. I think Graves is going to be my new main in this game.>Mo&Krill has good early and mid game, but falls behind so hard on late game and no matter how good items you buy it won't help him.>Graves is good from early to mid to late game because she has good scaling as Carry>Both also have very similar gameplay of close range front liner or flanker.
>>558118980reactions like yours encourage me to keep going
>>558119992>mnk falls off late gameyou ult the enemythey die
>>558119071That's fair but you also really should have expected something or tamed the autism and worded it better. I also can't really blame them too much for a shadowban system just thinking about how much awful feedback is being given by people that barely play but who'd get pissed and complain or make smurfs to continue clogging the forum if they were banned. It's pretty much the only way for it to matter and not be like a 4chan ban.
>>558117220I mean yeah there are been periods where that is the case.but there are also periods where a hero is broken at every rank.being busted at certain ranks isn't really a huge issue when its only for a patch or so, that's just a balancing issue, dota's balance isn't perfect by any means lol, I don't think anyone would say that.omniknight also had an absurd winrate at EVERY rank for ages but one of the lowest pickrates at the same time at every rank (basically the lowest when u discount shit like wisp, chen, ench, etc that basically no one plays because of the micro + big teamwork requirements) and it was just because he countered some heroes really fucking hard and obviously, he got changed for it.the game really is balanced around all ranks because of these types of changes.>>558119923go back to league of legends faggot
>>558120087>being mad because you're wronglow complexity heroes perform disproportionately better at lower rankshigh complexity heroes perform disaproportionately worse at lower ranksur just mad bc im right lmfaooooo
I hate that this game is getting filled by OTPfags.
Siphon bullets venator
>>558120148I already told you to go back to league of legends faggotwe can all tell you have never played dota
>>558120031>Solo one guy with ulti vs>Solo 3 guys at same time with ulti and jar
>>558120178I WILL one trick victorI WILL afk farmand if I don't get my hero?Enjoy my half assed abrams gameplay.
>>558120193sorry chud, im an immortal meepo spammer
>>558120248lmao you probably picked the worst hero randomly to say you spam to sound credible
>Be practicing Apollo>Against Silver and Drifter while Abrams is my partner>Buy bullet vest second item>Absolute shit on the both of them in lane>Still lose because green fed the fuck out of Seven and was now 20k souls ahead of everyone>Lose>????>Rank back up to emissary 3Thank you Yoshi very cool.
>>558120315I'd rather win games than rank up, won't take away the feeling of defeat
>>558120301? i like playing meepo wymi still hate what they did to him over the years (i miss the slow...)
I want to play Sinclair but by God do I feel useless even when I'm ahead, landing his poofy bolts is a pain in the ass most of the time
>>558119558>all other factors held constantYeah except the other factors will never be held constant, the comps will always be different, the players will always be different, you go on to point out the countless variables that are at play when it comes to a match then go "eh but if we ignore alllllll those then I'm right" but you can't ignore them because they suit the narrative you want.
>>558120379ECHO shard bunnies or no ballsAt the end of the day you will never be a carry so just focus on being annoying as possible.
Apollo's ult is so fucking broken and powercept>ok so he teleports>he does huge damage>he slows>all in a big AoE>Can also be used as an escape worst case
>>558120027Not my problem, kill yourself
>>558119992Training wheels gaming.
>>558119992>Graves>frontliner
>LEAKS!!! LEAKS!!! LEAKS!!!!>Look at this Community ModWhy are Deadlock redditors like this?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg4wTAkuB5I
>>558120443That's the angle I've ended up working, just building actives and being slippery, but it's kind of risky because you're really leaving the carrying up to randomsIt is fun when it works though
>>558120398Nta but you are the one ignoring the variables that contribute to the 53%, its an aggregate
>>558120398Are you retarded? Like genuinely. It's in aggregate. If I play a hero weighted by pickrate and am playing with random heroes weighted by pickrate against random heroes weighted by pickrate + Graves, I expect to lose 53% of the time.The point isn't that you cann't self-select to change this number. I can play the best hero against Graves always. I can have an entire team dedicated to optimising my matchup against her.The point is that for the average player loses against her 53% of the time. I am part of the average because I am part of the population. If I play endless games against her with random heroes, it will converge to the winrate that corresponds with my current rank.Like did you think I was suggesting that a random number generator decides the match? Are you that dense?
>>558120749I'm aware and aggregate statistics do not speak to individual matches
>>558120794...you are genuinely fucking retarded. I play the game in aggregate. I play several games. My own sample gets closer to the population over time. There will be some bias because I am included in the sample, but assuming I am an average player for my ranking, it should be similar.Yes, in an individual match, the chances of me beating Graves can change. I could play the best hero against her. She could die of a fucking heart attack. I could get paired with a top 10 player because of the poor matchmaker. The Graves could tilt and feed.But overtime my own aggregate games will trend towards the mean of 53% loss against her.You can say "You can learn to play around her" which is great for my individual skill and progression. But guess what, a certain amount of the population is ALSO learning to play around her and that's still factored into her winrate.
>>558119667and it's never yourself
paradox just doxxed pocket
>>558121019>I play the game in aggregateYeah, no.Your statement was "When I play against graves she has a 53% chance of winning" which is not aggregate, it's an individual match and not how it works.
>>558094278Mysterious: she has a cloaca
Paige can't stop queefing
>>558098179'vy and Krill
>>558121220Yes? With all of the data you have on me, that's exactly what happens. I play a hero weighted by pickrate. I play with other heroes weighted by pickrate. I play against other heroes weighted by pickrate.She wins 53% of the time. In an individual match the statistics change, obviously. But you're really trying to frame it like I was talking about individual matches. If we talk about individual matches, I could give you more specific numbers (although with less certainty because the population goes down), but it would more often than not be near 53% still. Because, y'know, math, averages, etc.But keep trying to act like you understand what you're talking about
>>558121395>anon says something very specific>some retard responds who doesn't understand maths>misinterprets his very specific statement as being wrong because someone once told him some other generalized for some context he doesn't understand and is applying something unrelated to itjust don't bother with him manhes retarded and doesn't understand squat about statistics or interpreting them, many such cases on the internet
>>558103164Jesus fucking christ
when will silver receive non-work in progress voicelines? its been at least a month yet she still speaks in forspoken quotes
>>558121703It's peak midwit shit. I'm glad he at least is trying to bring knowledge of statistics into it, but it's such a gross misapplication. He's totally right that for an individual match the change can change wildly, but that's not the point I was ever making. Individual matches don't matter in the case of balance, because we've all lost to some totally non-viable meme build at least once and that doesn't make that thing particularly powerful. Performance overtime demonstrates power.
>>558103164i had a game like this a week ago where i basically fucked it from minute 20 and i just abandoned to save my team the time.
>>558099118>>558017883
>>558121842>mad that the forspoken characters talks like a forspoken character
>>558121842I like her current voice. I hope they just expand on it.
>>558093925I know they nerfed Celeste's movement but did they completely gut it or just nerf? Can you still do the air strafe movement stuff or is it basically gone?It was a fucking cool mechanic.
wait lash is silver or something?
>>558094923big ass give me a boner
>>558122940silver is lash after her transition :3
is there a deadlock yt channel that explains how each character in about 3-5 minutes with 2 example builds or something. Essentially the deadlock version of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NkUpSaB3c4
>game starts>go into lane as drifter after buying his 3 to gain stacks from the get go >literally just farm the minions while occasionally trading blows with the enemy (as you do)>the enemy is low health so I push in a little and I mention it in comms>die to a paige 1 but got both niggas on critical>alright alright my lane partner can kill them>RussianSeethingInVC.mp3>he just hides>they leave>lane partner just stands there typing in text chat >"WHY U PUSH DRIFTER FUCKING RETARD???" >bro the objective is free to take >"DRIFTER YOU BOT FUCKIN UNINSTALL">they come back and he chooses to fight them alone >he dies>Infernus btw>we lose the game >he goes 4/3/7 even though the kill average for everyone else is in the 20s>somehow he still flames me for the entire match Why are Inferniggers like this? Is there like something I'm missing here? Is there a special strat these Infernus players have that I'm not getting???? I guess fuck me, right?
playing lategame without supports is so fucking boring, playing 7 into victor venator with dynamo and rem both rescue beaming and divine barriering everybody on the enemy team
>That feel when absolutely abysmal fucking aimits holding me back and I cant do anything about it, I'm at my limit
>>558119045that's how i feel about playing doorman
>>558123072It's not Inferniggers, it's the russians.The only young male still in russia are the ones too autistic and timid to be drafted for the war. No wonder they're just as timid and unreliable ingame as well.
>>558122940Lash is wolf in sheeps clothingSilver is sheep in wolfs clothing
Apollo has got to be THE most disgusting piece of shit character this game has EVER fucking seen>60% bullet res while in 3 (for some fuckin reason)>THREE of them>they all heal him>relatively low CDs compared to his contemporaries like Yamato>disgusting execute ult with 0 counterplay until you fork over 3200 for counterspell, meaning anytime you're below half for the first part of the game, you just fucking die>repose works on bullets for some fucking reason meaning that you just have to either eat the stun to attack him back or just let him beat the shit out of you>can still parry for some reason while slowing hex'd so he still escapes even while slowedNot even release Victor/Drifter was this fucking retarded.
>>558120531enjoy your pauseits even funnier when the people get so mad they pause 6 as well so we end up with 6 pauses
Am I fucking blind? Where in game is it stated Venator gets a blessing to his melee or whatever from... what is it, Grenade?He DOES get a "melee blessing" right? How and where is it stated how? I can't find it.
>>558123225I swear the low ELO hell is real because these fucking slavs got no gamesense. They should know by now that a Drifter needs kills and assists to become more valuable of a teammate in the late-game. These candyasses that never push are the reason why I'm only at +20 stacks in early late-game so I'm basically worthless compared to a well executed early game.
>>558122049yeah she shouldnt be a forspoken character in the first placevalve needs to change her immedeatly>>558122243her voice might as well be genuinely good, but the VOICELINES they gave her, as well as their DELIVERY are astronomically bad
>>558123148Just play one of the aimlet heroes. Then trashtalk people with aim.
>>558099719correct, it's black and puffy as hell
>>558123375It's his tier 3 shotgun upgrade. The stats for blessing damage are attached to his ult, though.
>>558123396Russians are still suffering from the selective breeding that occured after WW2 and is being recreated with the modern war.The functional breeds are thrown into the frontline to die, while the timid sub-70 IQ autists stick around to procreate. It's all a ploy by their elite to brain drain their own population and make them easier to control like cattle.You can see this express itself in deadlock where the only good russians are cheating or smurfing. Their natural state of being is being dogshit.Their continuous seething anger comes from sheer confusion of their own state of being.
Man I really hope they do a good job with GTs redesign, he's one of my favourite characters in both gameplay and lore. The leaked WIP remodel was an interesting direction but I haven't heard any leaks suggesting it would be sticking to that look
>>558123375its in his third shotty upgrade: "after wall hit: next heavy melee is blessed" or smth like that
Is it impossible to win lane against Bebop? I played Drifter against him and I couldn't do anything, from level 2 he has the two biggest impact spell in the game at no investment, hook and bomb fuck you up and hooking in this game is so easy you can't miss itwhat's the plan? last hit from behind the guardian and concede it early?
>>558123696I need someone to make a petition that along with banning heroes, we get to ban countries/regions from games because these fucking retards are demons dragging down to ELO hell.I think the fucking draft should be lowered to kids as young as 13. Russians don't even do anything except ruin games and watch gore all-day, so why not let them ruin a battlefield and let them watch gore irl? 2 birds 1 stone.
>>558123848Tier 3 1 and 3, jackass. That and lifesteal bullets / vampiric burst
>>558123715Ts looks so ass bro
>>558123148It's annoying because my reflexes are good, but it's like my vision is just shit
>>558123471>but the VOICELINES they gave her, as well as their DELIVERY are astronomically badNah I think they're fineNot every character needs to be hurling around utterly bombastic "I'M HELPING" Dynamo tier deliveries, she's absolutely fine for someone who's downtrodden and full of self-loathingAnd there's nothing wrong with her lines that isn't also wrong with other heroes', either
wife
how do people fuck up this hard so early in the game, wraith isnt even that good in the first 10 minutes
LET'S SEE WHAT THIS DICK CAN DO
>>558123471>nooooooooo everyone needs to be leckin wholesome enthusiastic chungus
>>558123225>>558123225I don't think you mean "timid", the average russian (and eastern european, to a lesser degree) are not raised to be capable of acting properly. Never have i played with people possessing such a minuscule amount of intelligence while also being extremely proud of being stupid and dishonest.Kind of glad putin is working his hardest to reduce the total amount of russians in the world, big ups to the man.
>>558124221paradox is a generic design and sucksthe only reason they gave her a scottish accent is because "scottish accents sounds cool and she's fucking boring"
>>558124761Her concept art makes the design look a lot better
So Counter Spell is one of the best items in the game, right?Is Witch Mail good? Is Witch Mail good on Celeste when you're getting fucked by spirit damage? Asking for a friend.
>>558117114>GT, Paradox>Honest>Paige>Anything but bullshit>Haze with the sleep dagger, silence wave into ult combo>"A lil' frustrating"What is this bizarro world
>>558124830Witch Mail is great but only if you can sustain damage. If you have spirit lifesteal and are a hero that benefits from spam, it's A tier. But I've almost never seen it being used efficiently.
>>558124830witch mail is okay but its very heroes that it is actually good onlike maybe victor if you really need spirit res?if you just generically really need spirit res you just buy the 3.2k spirit resistance green item for a gorillion spirit res20 is rarely going to be the breaking point and the spirit power isn't that high nor the cooldown reduction that valuable on most heroeslike if you already have escalating exposure and expansion you already have a chunk of spirit res and they are very popular on a lot of spirit heroesand you obviously don't buy it on non-spirit heroes
>>558124830Counterspell is arguably the best item in the game and is as good of an item as you are at using it
>>558124830witchmail is the best item in the game but it's character dependent
>>558124815Very hot
>>558125095>I want to fuck a bowlyou're forcing it
>>558124221>>558124761>>558124815I have always liked Paradox aestetically, thought she was underrated, and MOST IMPORTANTLY, I have HEAVILY SEXUALIZED her from the beginning. The masked woman aspect is sexy in its own way and it's an aesthetic/cool mask. And her classy and stylish steampunk-esque clothing looks good in the way it both hugs and hides her curves. It's both tasteful, and tantalizing. The leather buckle straps all up and down her hips and thighs are really fucking hot. And she's got the leather thighhigh boots too. A button down white collared blouse is sexy. I want to see her sweat soak trough the white fabric and make it sheer. And the buckle straps dig into the fat of her thighs and hips which is like a subtle bondage aesthetic. And form fitting trousers are like sexy "professional"/office lady aesthtic. I wanna unbuckle her and strip them with my teeth and eat her ass and pussy from behind.This has been my "Paradox is subtly SEXXXXXX" thesis.>>558125152no
>>558124597i never said that, nigga>>558124185>she's absolutely fine for someone who's downtrodden and full of self-loathingnah, she doesnt sound downtrodden - she sounds like an edgy 14 year old teenager trying to be cooleither make her sound more desperate, or make other characters call her out on her bullshit (like how it is with billy or mcginnis, for example)
>>558125184
>>558094587What is this song being referenced.
But what do you mail the witch exactly?
>>558122368>>558122368>>558122368>>558122368guys, GUYSSSS, does Celeste still have her unmentioned schmoovement boons, or is she nerfed to the point she's basically the same as other heroes now?
I have discovered a way to "carry" shitlow matches as mcginnis>Build for turrets>Pick either green or yellow>Defend the walker>Defend the walker>Defend the walkerAt 60 minutes your team will win because you have an extra item slot
>>558125184imagine if you had poured all that time and energy into a character with an actual fucking headyou're retarded
>>558125243Animals by Maroon 5
>>558124830Witchmail is giga SSS tier on like Bebop, Victor (depends) and MAYBE Mo and Krill if you're at like 60k and you just have 6k's and nothing else.And then it's mid tier on everyone else.
>>558125243>Baby, I'm preying on you tonight>Hunt you down eat you alive>Just like animals>Animals>Like animals-malsanimals by maroon 5 some shitty top 40 radio song that saeems to have been playing since like 2014I heard the radio for the first time in 10 years recently and it's like they were still just playing everything that was on the radio 10 years ago
>>558125184Paradox is one(1) hivemind using multiple bodies so if you fuck "her" you are also fucking the old fat guy, the hairy midget, the unwashed lanklet, the wrinkly Britbong aristocrat, etc
>>558125261can you not just play the gameshe got a 7% reduction in her bonus air acceleration, but is still 18% faster than anyone else in the air, and all of her other movement is unchanged
>>558125296>Imagined if you poured all that time and energy into [pointless thing] instead of [pointless thing]Huh?
>>558125332>Victor (depends)Is it good on victor? IMO his jumpstart isn't that good, I only use it as a debuff remover or as a speed boost most of the time.The actual healing is meh by the lategame.
>>558125296Mina and Graves don't need to be fought for. Mina is undisputably the most delicious, sexually delectable, 5 hour goon session inducing girl. I don't need to convince anyone of anything about Mina. I have always felt this way about Paradox, but her appeal is subtle, and I've never expressed how or why she has that appeal.
>>558125410imagine if you actually just liked something normal instead of forcing yourself to like the le unique and interesting waifu just so people on 4chan think you're specialit's fake as fuck and it's annoying stfu
>>558125434If you're fighting a Seven and infernus that just somehow can't kill you it's a great item but otherwise no. That's why I said it depends because usually you just want like a spell breaker + warpstone and you should be fine on resists unless you're getting super raped at which point it's better to build every other 6k. Plated armour + Juggernaut + Warpstone is really good to save your ass against Mirage, Haze and Infernus as an aside btw.
>>558125236>she sounds like an edgy 14 year old teenager trying to be coolShe sounds more to me like an irresponsible adult idiot who's nearly done but can't fix it because she's looking for someone to blame, actually. Is this another one of those boss baby cases people keep harping on about?>either make her sound more desperateWhy should they? She's not completely incompetent.What lines should be made more desperate? And again, why?>or make other characters call her out on her bullshitAnd how do you know they won't?
Witchmail is amazing on Abrams because you get permanent uptime on his S1
>>558125184immeasurably based
>>558123681What does that mean? Bonus damage and execute is for melee too?
>>558125573it's also incredible on Viscous and Bebop and Yamatostill trying it on Apollo
>>558125636yes
It's gonna be funny when Celeste stops being new and everyone puts her on their avoid list
Rape GravesBrutal mating press while choking GravesGetting Graves pregnant and then keeping her restrained so she can't abort it by striking her stomach physicallyMaking Graves dependentSniffing Graves' pheromone-reeking pregnant bodyFondling Graves' little pudding tits as they swell up over the course of nine monthsBrushing Graves' hairFingering Graves' plump preggers pussy while she pushes her face against a pillow and moans
>>558125698I don't have the raw edit but I prefer this version of the Arnie Abrams edit
I love graves like a daughter. Infact, she IS my daughter now. Say hello to my daughter who I love very much.
>>558125789GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT
I can't believe they didn't reference this for Infernus' killstreak portrait
remember to turn on dlss and the transformer model for nvidia in settings and not fsr which is set as the default for some reason
lets see what that dick can do
>>558125735I feel sad reading this.
>>558126031for the love of god abrams
Is Bebop the win lane lose game character?
>2v6 in our base, waiting in spawn for team to come up in 20 seconds, patron being attacked but it's cool the team will be up before->"YOOOO BILLY ARE YOU GONNA DO SOMETHING OR WHAT BRO">go out to satisfy the retard>diewoooow who would've thought
>>558126031Marketpliers!
>>558125963what the FUCK even is FSR
>>558125504Imagine being so braindead and incapable of coming up with your own opinions that when you see someone genuinely enjoying something you go "erm don't do that, normal people don't do that, weirdo".
>>558096053The infinite scaling.
>>558126031I can't wait for you faggots to die and burn
>>558125963Yo fr? I've been playing with fsr instead DLSS? No wonder I keep crashing
>>558126114There's a subset of people who will do stupid shit to satisfy the desires of retardsI know because I'm one of themWe must always strive to remember not to do what some pissed off retard wants
>>558126201sounds like someone is in denial! cute egg
>>558126031why is his cigar full of boogers
>>558126201I'm posting it unspoilered next thread now btw.
>>558125902They refuse to let him be cool.
>>558126174Fisting Sexy abRams
>>558126231Another teammate chipped in with "he's gotta worry about his K/D." You really can't win with retarded faggots...
>>558125698they need to nerf her again
>>558126174amd upscaler thing that shouldn't be a thing enabled
>>558126201I'LL CRUSH EM
>>558126031SODOM WILL BURN!
Played a bunch of InfernusSeems to do decent damage if you can aim for shit but unfortunately I can'tTime for Seven I guess
>>558126217could probably be the issue you never know
>>558125789why does your daughter dress like that
>>558126450just play dash infernus then
>grab hero>but also gets a stacking nuke>and also gets a death laser It's funny how the grab isn't even the most obnoxious part.
>>558126349oh FSR is AMD's upscaler?
>>558126495Peer pressure, next question
>>558126575what's the matter organics?
>>558126684Gem
>>558126575can you counterspell bebop bomb when it goes boom
>>558126576yeah that's what they use and deadlock last time I checked had only FSR 1 and 2 only in my settings when there's already FSR 4
>>558126684>golem handcrafted by a jewish niggress
>>558126575>get shit on in lane>scrape together enough souls for counterspell>moment I purchase it he fucks off to rape my team to death>literally never hooks me againdeath for the scrap golem
ban jakposters
>>558126831They'll just post daxters if you do
>>558126849>>558126849>>558126849
>>558126684>Good work, Bebop...God I miss the old Patron voices
>>558126878
>>558126684Hang yourself wojakspamming twitter immigrant
>>558114262Crazy seeing a local school in this general.
>>558095139it was literally level 2?
