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Average Seven Player Edition

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/01-30-2026-update.102822/post-207811

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://www.deadfrag.com/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Last Thread: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/558243072
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>60 heroes
>play against the same 5 every match
boring
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Nevermind, this might actually have been a scripted loss compared to the previous bad game I had. Graves was like 0/7 out of lane
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>MINA HA
>SUMMON THE HIDDEN KING AND YOU MAY HAVE AS MANY SHOTAS AS YOU WANT
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THEY DO LOTS OF THINGS
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Does anyone know why my game full freezes and forces me to end process in my first match of a session with 100% accuracy?
The 100% is not hyperbole, it happens every single time. First game of the session, I will randomly freeze either right in the beginning when selecting items, or after the first round ends. Then I will close process, reconnect, and it won't happen again. I can play like 10 games after that and it will not freeze again.
I don't understand how it can be happening every single time with the first match but then with no subsequent matches.
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HAS THERE BEEN LEAKED HERO NEWS?
HOW IS CADENCE?
IS SHE SAFE?
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Werewolf pussy
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I have been on the most abysmal losing streak of my life. It has gotten to the point where I switched games, went on a losing streak there, came back to DL, and am still on a losing streak
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Post the pubes chart, I need a new main.
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>hmm this duo I'm playing against are obviously smurfing, they are buying and consistently using counterspell on everything important, performing well above this mm bracket, hitting far more than most players, have great macro and teamplay, they're playing like Eternus in low Archon
>check their accounts, 1 is an obvious smurf account and the other is a private profile
Sure, I like feeling validated when my guesses come back correct but I wish Valve would hwid ban smurfs or something. Yes HWID bans can be got around and circumvented but if they think it wouldn't genocide the smurf population then they'd be wrong. There is no way most smurfs who aren't already cheating in some way are going to bother bypassing hwid bans just to smurf.
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>>558279696
>>558279907
same as usual then, I stopped playing the game like a month after release because healer ults were boring as fuck
get someone low or make a good play then US AGAINST THE WORLD and the entire enemy team is invulnerable
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>Necromancer
>Optimal way to play is not as a spirit spellcaster but a soulless m1 click spammer

Soulless
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they should add a hero named six so you could lane with seven lmfaoooooooooo
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>>558280084
wussy if you will
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>>558280354
>Braindead 0 aim character
>Be surprised that her builds play into this in a game where aiming is extremely hard
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Can I get an invite?
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>>558280354
>Optimal way to play
>Noobtrap
You might be retarded
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Starting off this thread by saying I want to have sex with men. I will now grind games.
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>>558280393
Issue is her spells are dogshit, you cant just sit back and throw skulls because they evaporate in seconds and then you get zero use out of your passive

Skulls should be immortal and they should rework her 3 to make it so it empowers her other 3 spells
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>>558280354
The optimal way to play her is a tanky debuffer with some items from every category
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they should remove ranks
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Played an ascendant match with a Haze Vindicta duo on the enemy team who were blatantly aimbotting. Even their own teammates were accusing them of it. Both only had 20 games total, all on the same characters, 95% of them victories. I just cannot imagine the life of someone who duo queue cheats in a closed alpha. That's even gayer than just having gay sex
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>>558280645
Skulls should only be able to be shot when they're within a certain range
You can't prep skulls for an upcoming engagement because they'll just randomly be popped from across the lane
So realistically you'll only get one, maybe two uses of your jars each fight
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>>558280354
God I wish I was Apollo...
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>New players getting into Phantom within 7 games
>I cant even rank up in Oracle no matter how much I win
LET ME IN
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>>558280156
I haven't seen this chart
All I know is that if Silver isn't at the top of it by a wide margin it's simply inaccurate, she'd have an utter rainforest complete with treasure trail
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>>558280374
Everytime someone says Seven in comms I reply six seven
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>>558280881
I can't decide if duo queue cheating in a closed alpha is more or less homosexual than duo queue smurfing in a closed alpha.
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>>558280645
The whole thing with the skulls persisting and you being able to shoot them is just weird. I think it would make more sense for them to just kamikaze explode like the zombies.
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niggas is getting frogged like crazy out here
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Guys... the Deadlock to tranny pipeline is real...
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>>558281123
sisly...
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>>558279738
>how I feel when it says "joining the fight as HAZE"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BAcA2PgcSI
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>>558281123
Trans chicks are not only cute but also good at vidya
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>>558281123
I want to believe this is just "haha man dressing as a woman" joke but in this day and age it's probably a AGP or faggot thing.
>>558281670
Without fail if I lane against rem as Haze I end up getting hyper fed and I feel like haze beating Rem's ass for staying up too late playing on his DS.
>>558281869
>trans """"Chicks"""""
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Videos with players standing out in the fucking open trading with Drifter meanwhile when I pop out for even a second most of my health just vanishes
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you will find your trans wife in deadlock
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>>558281980
>but in this day and age it's probably a AGP or faggot thing.
You're right, sis, he's so obviously an egg.
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how to get good as shiv
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>>558282060
If it isn't Eskay I'm not interested.
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>>558282146
bro you can do better than that
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Add a hero that's constipated and their wish is to fix it, they only joined the ritual because they just happened to be around when it was starting and thought "why not?"
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>>558282139
Just be yourself
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>>558282146
Based. "Her" voice is sexy.
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>>558281123
lol
To be fair he has a wife (female) and seems to be treating it as a joke
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>>558282139
what doth knife?
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>>558261843
Why did people get so mad about this post. There's nothing gay going on in the art.
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INHOUSE?!?!
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who here identifies as trans (like celeste)
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>Skeleton Honey literally cries his eyes out about Apollo being OP, about Venator being OP, about Silver being OP, about Shiv, Bebop, Abrams, Victor and Holliday being OP
>while maining Celeste claiming she's not OP
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uhm guys you told me playernumbers would fall off very quickly after no more new characters will come out, why didnt that happen yet?
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>>558282960
It's almost like all these ecelebs are faggots
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>>558283237
Its actually impressive that the game retained players, considering the abysmal dogshit state of the matchmaking.
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>>558282960
>look up who the fuck that is
>has an obnoxious le ebin close up off his ugly pale face
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>my paige duo keeps getting distracted by her sissy hypno in the middle of the lane
useless bitch
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>>558283486
Sorry
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>Bebop hooks someone
>I melee
>We both get parried in the same parry
>Bebop - "Stop getting parried"
nigga you did the SAME thing as me
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>>558280354
>necromancer
>optimal way to play her is to let her minions do the damage instead of her
makes sense to me honestly
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DEADTARDS?????????
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>>558283646
that is not in fact the optimal way to play her
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Celeste... with huge boobies
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>>558283342
Really enjoy these Beachlock outfits
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>>558283432
deadlock is fun even if the matchmaking is complete garbage
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man that's so cool how the devs are dismantling every single gaming industry trope by letting Ivy be the very first ultra late-game support in the history of the world
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mina hypnosis...
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>>558282960
The number one requirement to an eceleb is have 0 self awareness and narcissism cranked up to 20. Does it really surprise you that a person like that would blame everyone except themselves?
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>>558283760
league of legends devs are fuming at the fact that her ears are not at the top of the head
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Every one of my new friends gravitates to Mina in one of their first games because "whoa, cute asian vampire girl" and instantly gets disappointed because her gameplay is just lame as fuck gun clicking lol
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having ivy on my team and silver on the other team is like watching my wives fight...
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>>558284042
what does mina hypnpsis do? does it make you play mina? does it make you love mina? does it turn you into mina?
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>>558281123
this is the SECOND time he dresses up and this time he has a wig on.
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>>558284187
many such cases
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>>558284002
too many "supports" are capable of scaling into the late game and it's cringe
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>>558283342
>>558284053
He'll go 1/14 on Celeste and then go "WOW APOLLO JUST HITS ME FOR AN EASY 300 DAMAGE, THIS HERO IS SO BUSTED"

Or complain about another hero "escaping for free" while B hopping out of the most retarded ints
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>play duos with friend
>our games go smoothly, opponents feel roughly our skill level
>play solo afterwards
>every game has 1 turbo murder player who has 60k souls by 20 minutes and rolls my team like a 50ton truck
>check their profile
>it's always barely 2 pages of games
am I unlucky and been collecting all the smurfing faggots?
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>>558282517
I actually liked the image for its wholesomeness but it was immediately ruined by homosexuals per the replies, per usual
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Am I the only one that finds celeste insanely hot? Like the hottest aside from mina? People call her the tranny character but she seems like a new york or new jersey weirdo chud who is freaky and would suck you off if you gave her a hundred bill
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>>558284136
I do love that Silver's wolf ears are on her actual ears.
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There's not nearly enough yuri art of Geist dominating the other girls
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>rem and graves on the same team
just give me a fucking draft already
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>someone speaks
>it's a girl
>she has an undecipherable accent
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>>558284002
The Dota concept of a support doesn't exist in Deadlock, they're all utility scalers
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>>558284245
Mina hypnotizing Paige to strip naked and wear a leash
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>play drifter
>either a useless shit all game or snowballing out of control like crazy
>no in-between
I don't get it. Such an inconsistent hero. Shitty laning that requires you to severely outplay your opponents then just dumpster them. No other character has such variance.
Never seen a drifter game where I said "eh, I played well but we still lost". It's always "I played like shit so I lost" or "I played well so I won".
Meanwhile I can play Apollo and slam any key on my keyboard and "outplay" my opponents without any thought
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Why do I even play anymore
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>>558284813
>someone speaks
>it's a girl
>they're playing Paige
every time
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>>558284829
the dota philosophy still exists tho

there are supports who are effective even if they have less souls
which has always been the definition of a dota support their effectiveness even if they have the least farm priority
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>deadlock
>girl
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Just lost four games in a row and I want to kill myself
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>>558284356
>>558284829
by "ultra late-game" support, I meant that she is only fun to play as after 75 minutes
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>>558284813
>>558284910
I've sexually harassed 4 different Polish girls I came across in valve games.
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>>558285164
try 15 game losses and you will have thoughts you never thought you'd have faggot

4 is nothing. Ive seen multiple big deadlock streamers lose 3 in a row today
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>>558285164
haha noo don't kill yourself haha don't do a flip
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>>558284972
Yeah they can do things from behind, but it shouldn't be seen as unusual that the "supports" can scale into the late game like a core, because they can all do that. There aren't any hard 5 supports that are nothing but ward bots with a stun or a useful ult past the early game.
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>>558284371
I think a lot of the smurfs are guys with friends learning the game, I made a smurf to teach a friend, I only have a few games on it but its not like I can play with him on my main because its eternus

if it makes you feel any better the matchmaking already clocked Im a smurf and fills deadweight on the rest of the slots so the account is still only 50% wr
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>>558283784
Building GUN on her sucks because of the range, and being squishy, you need a shit tonn of money and snowball to pull that off.
Building through spell damage also sucks because she deals none.
Only viable build for Graves is utility support
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MIRAGE IT'S YOUR LONG LOST BROTHER MAMDANI
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>>558285750
FUCK YOU MIRAGE
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Not turning on voice chat, sorry
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>>558285557
I'm Ascendant IV and i didn't make a smurf account to play with my noob friends. You know why? Because i'm not a massive faggot
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>>558286282
"dude why aren't you doing anything and not diving tower after i fed the enemy four times AAAAAAAHHH!!!"
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>>558285164
I won like 20 brawls in a row so it looks like I stole your luck
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>>558284982
this game is like valorant which is attracting all the genz ewhores
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>>558286282
>i-is that... a guy in his twenties? AIEEEE
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how the fuck do i escape fights? i keep just holding s and shooting at the enemy but it obviously does not work
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>>558284002
>ivy player whining even though she has 54% winrate

it keeps happening
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>>558286745
>is like valorant
In what way possibly?
Valorant is Counter-Strike with an Anime paintover, and thats what makes it popular
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>>558285425
this
I was a bit deranged at times during my league journey
but I saved it all for lolg and did not type anything ingame except for occasionally being a bit sassy
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>I never see Yamato in my games
>ok let's try her
>she's actually fun to play
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>>558286745
not a single gen z ewhore plays this shit. Its either valve chuds or insane extreme leftsist and trannies. This shit is unironically too complicated for marvel rivals, overwatch and valorant ewhores. Deadlock attracts the autism audience and women are not autists but attentionwhores instead
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>mouse died
>snowed in
>can't play deaddy until thursday
FUCK FUCK FUCK
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>>558286930
>her
>she's
bar
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>>558286282
>he can't control his lust for cock
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>>558286903
in that it's an easy to get into team game that has designs that actually appeal to women, not what leftists claim appeals to women
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>>558286903
valorant is nothing like cs
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>>558286930
Honestly I kinda don't like how Haze has become almost the writer's pet with how they talk up the OSIC and the Sandman.
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>>558286861
learn the schmovement
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>>558286995
what
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>>558287029
and scalies are nothing like furries
but I will still lump them together and I don't care if they think I'm wrong
just as I will lump valorant and cs together
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>>558287036
OSIC and 7th moon need more reps if anything
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>>558287029
I mean, most abilties are CS util but with a retarded gimmick.
Its a CS clone with worse movement and ADS for CoD kids
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>>558286745
It's the opposite. You only need to look at Twitch to see.

What Deadlock does is attract Tumblrinas who obsess over the designs and pump out fanart/fanfics but the people actually playing and streaming the game are the same core audience of
>TF2
>DotA2
>CSGO
Valvedrones AKA hyperchuds
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>>558287129
isnt Yamato like the only active member of 7th moon in US?
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>>558287036
I don't know why but I always assumed Abrams would be the true posterchild of deadlock but Haze is probably the character with the most interactions with the cast
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>>558287159
>I mean, most abilties are CS util
dont fucking kid yourself
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>>558287207
>Guys play the game
>Women draw art of the game
This is the way God intended the world to work btw. This is genetic. All the way in our bones. Men hunted or tilled the soil, women knitted and weaved. In "e-girl games" like Overwatch, League and Valorant you can see the natural order upended by women actually playing these games, resulting in a neverending moderation spiral.
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WHY ARE NIGGERS SO FUCKIGN OBSESSED WITH WALKING AROUND THE JUNGLE INSTEAD OF PUSHING A LANE
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>>558286385
thats weird, you sound like one
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>>558287207
Why would Tf2 or CS player want to play Deadlock?
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So is Cheshire just a powercrept Calico and Mr Ripper just a powercrept Drifter?
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>>558286745
This game attracts giga autism retards, tonnes of trannies and incel chuds. Basically the same audience as fighting games desu.
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>>558287374
who?
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I don't know what an OSIC is
I don't know what a 7th moon is
I don't know what a baxter society is
I don't know what ixia is
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>>558287326
Oh wow, 4 different ways to get flashed, that are practically the same, but different in a weird gimmicky way that doesnt have a reason to be a thing, almost like it was made by Riot games
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>>558287462
>ixia
sex people
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>>558287129
>>558287290
I just mean how in a lot of dialogue there's stuff like Drifter or Seven who talk down various organisations but when it comes to the OSIC Haze is like "if we were coming for you, you'd already be dead kukukukuku".
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>>558287343
tubers and streamers tell their viewers that noobs ignore the jungle and there is loads of free stuff there
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is it a dotard thing to say that winrates don't matter when it comes to balancing and that's why faggots think seven shouldn't be nerfed
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>>558287374
I've seen the Cheshire "leaks" but who tf is Mr Ripper?
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>>558287519
also some of the flashes work through walls
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>>558287529
homosexuality isn't right
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>>558287462
you shouldn't
because only autists care about lore
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>play Graves
>ult build
>i put my ult up on lanes as soon as i can and even have refresher
>team cries and screams at me for "standing around"
what am i supposed to do bros
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>>558287462
My wife Mihono Bourbon
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>>558287608
so you're an autist?
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So, now that the dust has settled, which one do you prefer more?
The new 6 or the old 6?
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>>558287536
>Ice frog game
>Tell people to go jungling
Are they trying to make a playerbase of free kill bots, so they can stream their hecking super compilations of kills?
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>>558287360
>Why would people who played games about shooting people want to play a game about shooting people
Huh??

Ever since battle royale died off, the biggest playerbases in gaming (multiplayer, not singleplayer story-oriented vidya) are team shooters and MOBA games. Deadlock is basically designed to leech playercounts from both those categories at once
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>Paige
>Pudge
>P**ge
coincidence?
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>watch enemy Apollo be complete dogshit and feed all game missing every parry
>he's 3-7
>our Shiv who has played otherwise perfectly, but not gotten a lot of exectues, is 4-0
>watch retarded faggot Apollo run him down 1v1 mid because he just holds W and mashes buttons then presses 4
>Shiv literally cannot do anything about it

When the fuck are they gutting this retarded character
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>>558287539
pub winrates are irrelevant

>b-but eternus!
pub winrates are irrelevant
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>>558287462
>OSIC
FBI 2
>Seventh Moon
Japanese gang
>Baxter Society
Monster hunting jannies, they do it for free
>Ixia
Demon homeworld and new American vassal state
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>>558287660
nyes
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>>558287539
Thats like as far as you can possibly get, Dota people are obsessed with winrates and stats
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>>558287539
Seven's ult should have falloff damage.
You shouldn't be taking so much damage just from so far away.
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>>558287108
I got it
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>>558287808
Only if you give it global range will I agree with you
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Seven ult should Silence and Disarm and at max rank come with built-in Unstoppable
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>>558287703
Shiv could have done something about it if he bought an item, dumbfuck. Slowing Hex and Counter spell make his entire kit completely irrelevant and you usually don't need both.
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Made to be forcibly corrected by smug bratty shota's
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zeus press 4 to do 1000 damage to every enemy ability when
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Are there any modding guides?
I'm trying to make a custom Kelvin skin without that fucking rock, but I can't get the animations to work in-game. I've managed to export the model and it appears in ModelDoc with animations working, but in-game he just T-poses.
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>>558287942
Add Haunt so we can have ghostly illusions magdump into everyone's asses
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>>558287942
I'm genuinely surprised they haven't added this retarded spell yet

or sniper assassinate
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OH SHIT NIGGA
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Are you suppose to go spirit or gun as your DPS as McGinnis? I love her kit but I can't get a read on how you build her.
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>>558288030
>or sniper assassinate
Isnt that just Vindicta's ult?
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>>558287942
Next hero vote. Also it will literally be just Zeus again
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>>558287769
The weird thing about the Baxter Society is "guys who hunt monsters for free" sounds like a designated Good Guys Faction[TM] but all its heroes are assholes
>Geist
Human sacrifice to a demon that replaced her arm in exchange for staying young and beautiful
>Calico
Corporatecuck assassin for Fairfax, had one(1) job which was to kill Pocket and fucking flubs it
>Grey Talon, Shiv
No real deep lore other than that one's a generic Amerindian caricature using old Neon Prime weapon assets and the other one is supposed to be handsome
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>>558288030
um
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>>558288124
she has the most build variety out of every character in the game, there's no real wrong way to play her just don't get caught out
if you wanna be meta though you're an w+m1 tank
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>>558288129
>>558288168
I meant sniper's ult in dota, an extremely long-range homing nuke
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>>558288124
I go spirit for turret shenanigans
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>>558287942
Seven's 4 is the Deadlock equivalent of Zeus ult
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i cant fucking lane as paige anymore
i can't hit orbs because "paige moment"
i try and melee instead and i eat a face full of damage
what are you meant to do? hope my lane partner is good?
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>>558287703
Both him and Celeste were mistakes, it's not even the numbers but the kits themselves that are badly designed and seem like they came straight from league with all their mobility and risk-less gameplay.
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>>558287895
If he'd been included with the latest heroes it would have
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What if they added an all-melee hero. Would it work/how would it work?
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>>558288160
Theres literally nothing to suggest Geist has anything to do with Baxters society, where did you even get that? Because she has an abnormal arm? Its not prosthetic
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>>558287942
Add Storm Spirit I wanna see him run across the map without cd's
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>>558287942
LET THE HEAVENS RAGGEEE!!
*triple kill*
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>>558287703
>watch retarded faggot run him down 1v1 mid because he just holds W and mashes buttons then presses 4
You're literally describing Shiv
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>>558288271
ehh not really, it's more like phoenix egg
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>>558288309
Graves is already in the game and she sucks Bronx hobo sphincter
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>>558288160
Calico explicitly left the baxters because she wanted to stop doing it for free and Geist has nothing to do with them at all.
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Let’s blow bebop
And let’s blow the shit out of bebop’s shit
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Man i've been spamming street brawl so much. I think about playing a normal game but then i remember the fuckass teammates, annoying lanes, stupid games where you have to be assraped all game. Street brawl is retarded but its also so much easier to enjoy
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on launch they should nuke all mods
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>>558288238
Dota is a top down rts controls, it being self homing isnt going to be translated to Deadlock, a 3rd person movement game
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>>558288160
I don't think Geist has anything to do with the Baxter Society, and Calico left it because she was tired of doing it for free and wanted money
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>>558287942
karthus?
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>>558287942
This would be nuts in deadcock since you can see enemy health bars at all times
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>>558288324
>>558288153
lack of mana means they'll never be able to just outright drop a dota hero into deadlock
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>>558287942
Talking about Dota why in the fuck we dont have Rod of Atos, Power Treads, Blademail and Dagon already?
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>>558288408
It is nothing like Phoenix egg
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why is america even invading ixia when its literall hell
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>>558287539
Winrates matter but never tell the whole story. A character with a losing WR might struggle in the chaos of pubs but be busted as shit in a stack. They might attract worse players on average or have a high skill floor. Something that nobody likes to talk about either is that a character with a bad WR might be obnoxious as fuck to play against while a character with a good WR might still feel fair.
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>>558288535
it's nothing like zeus ult you FAGGOT
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>>558288529
Definitely need something other than vortex web that I can use to keep that faggot doorman from running away
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>>558288467
Whomst? Is Karthus that purple catgirl?

>>558288539
Lots of oil in hell innit
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>>558288470
No? You only know enemy HP while they are in vision
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how the fuck do i suck so bad at celeste holy shit
give me the secrets
why does it feel so hard to aim all of her abilities, but apollo just says fuck that and everything is easy as shit to hit with him

>>558288296
at least with celeste you have to be good (besides ulting in a team fight)
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>>558288539
oil
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>>558288616
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi0TIoL3yhw
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>>558288225
I went with a weird jack of all trades build and I did well early but I felt like I wasn't doing anything later on. Gonna try to specialize more based on what Im facing.
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>>558288539
they probably got like netherite
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>its a victor free farm and no one buys anti heal/cc episode
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>>558288529
I want Deadlock's Dagon be a potato masher hand grenade
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>>558288287
Yes and if they're bad you WILL be playing janny for everyone else while they wonder why they can't get healed as they run 300 yards directly into the enemy guardian
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>>558288736
Doesn't fucking matter how much anti-heal you have when the dude has a refresh. having to fight him three times over is pure cancer.
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>>558288736
Shit I can sound this out perfectly but I can't remember what it means
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>>558282960
Celeste fags are somehow the most obnoxious players in this game.
>Downplaying their OP fucking hero
>Stanning a fucking moba character
>She's trans and I use the black mod (:
>YURIYURIYURIYURI SHES A FAGGOT YURI
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>>558288539
America needs all the warpstone
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>>558288520
Cute and canon.
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>>558288529
>dagon
please no
>power treads
what would it even cycle? gun/health/spirit? too niche
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>>558288520
Paige does the whole "oh girrrllll" conversation in a deadpan voice with Tiktok therapy language but the moment she gets home she starts working on a realpersonfic, feels guilty about it being an irl friend and deletes it, then masturbates furiously to the noble demon prince yumeslop trope using her Bad Dragon: Ixian Impact dildo until she lands the multiple orgasm combo and blacks out until 3 AM when she wakes up to see 50+ unread texts from Graves
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>>558288560
okay that's fine and all but seven's highest winrate is in eternus specifically and he dominates every single bracket no matter what
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>>558288736
Buy Inhibitor Nigga
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>>558282960
Celeste is the biggest outlier in the game in terms of power
That being said I have no idea who that streamer is and I'm glad I don't
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Celeste is only OP because they gutted movement tech
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>>558287885
I wouldn't mind.
Give it global range, but it falloff so badly that it might be dealing only 1 dmg/s when you're in other lane
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>>558288539
It’s described as being beautiful though
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>>558288669
She kind of falls off late in general, if you go turrets they die to lategame aoe and the lack of a real m1 steroid means she's generally going to lose to real M1 carries 1v1 assuming equal souls.
Staying relevant with her mostly relies on snowballing off your strong start and maintaining a solid lead.
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>>558288736
The true victor counter item is focus lens
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Kill all ecelebs and eceleb worshippers
Also any anons who earned the Brought Up A Streamer's Opinion Award must be stoned to death
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>>558288431
street brawl is way more fun than the actual game
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how the fuck is celeste op? its not like her skills do a lot of damage
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>>558287998
I'd ask deadlock modders on gamebanana. Anyone here who knows modding is probably too busy gorilla-slamming their keyboard over a lost game or gooning to mina at the moment
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>>558288763
Deadlock's Dagon needs to be a Zip Gun Wand with more gubbinz with each level
>>558288897
Yes please, I want a good ol' Dagon party with the boys
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>>558286972
just go jog, anon. Don't let your weak, sad bitterness twist your whole world view. I've heard several girls on voice chat, not every game but at least some of the time, and sometimes we won thanks to those same girls, one of them even had a twitch stream. If anything, I've only heard two obvious trannies in over 500 hours.
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>>558287902
>damn bro your fed hero couldve done something against the 3-7 retard if he'd bought items to counter the useless feeding retard!
You sound very stupid
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>>558289268
celeste is op by way of her 1's spirit damage when you hit your shots doing fuck you nigger levels of damage
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Add Shank, shiv's older brother who is bigger and stronger and more monkey
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>>558287998
Look up guides to Source 2 first
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>>558288901
very accurate
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>>558289323
but that requires me to hit my shots
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When are they gonna add a "the floor is laval" ult?
Just use it, and everybody need to either be floating in the sky, or wall jumping.
There's already plenty of skills like that, just make it a huge aoe around the character as ult & last longer now.
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>>558288869
>She's trans and I use the black mod (:
>YURIYURIYURIYURI SHES A FAGGOT YURI
To be fair, the people that are like this don't actually play the game
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>>558289241
I think its like scrolling reels/shorts. Its braindead fun, but it does feel braindead.
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>>558289345
I want Chink. Shiv's long, lost asian brother.
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Riddle me this, lorefags. What species is Mo supposed to be?
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add them to the main game mode
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>>558289529
Mole
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>>558289529
mokne
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>>558289345
>Gorilla hero
God please, just port Cheston, he'd fit right in.
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>>558289529
>retar
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>>558289529
mole
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>>558289529
In the hideout theres a diagram of a mutation from a normal mole to Maurice
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I wanna be a debuff mage or DoT mage...
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>>558289535
Man I’ve never seen like half of these
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>>558288901
this is oddly specific anon
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>>558289535
I'm pretty sure I won a game off the back of a prism blast roll, that shit is wack
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>>558288529
Speaking of Dagon, can we get a cult of dagon/Innsmouth Fishman hero? It fits the time period esthetic and isn't too SAVE ME FROM CTHULU to be a trope
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>>558289535
Some of these aren't in-game, are they just in the files?
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>>558289535
>enhanced piano in normal mode
that would cause so many spergouts
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>>558289535
>12800 souls
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>>558289676
Buy items that make you do that?
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>>558289715
slork
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>>558289676
Trapper soon stalker
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>>558288901
>noble demon prince yumeslop
can I have a qrd
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>>558287703
The fact that this is a MOBA filters people so fucking hard.
>i killed him 4 times in lane so that means he can NEVER beat me again!
Not how it works, and it's the biggest sign of a new/bad player.
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>>558289535
I think some of them would be fun as items or for a hero kit if they were toned down
shrink ray for generic access to the tunnels
one is basically a linken's sphere
Piano should be a t4 knockdown upgrade or give it to a living cartoon character because it's too funny to only be in one mode
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>>558289535
I have NEVER seen Apex Conbat, Ancient Shielding, and the Scream

The fuck do they even do
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>>558289352
I'm not going to learn Source 2 unless Valve is going to hire me.
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>>558290043
They aren't in the game dumbass
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add them to the game
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>>558290067
>I want to learn to mod this game
>But I would never ever ever ever learn how to fuck around with the textures in the engine the game runs on
Then don't mod it
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>>558288901
Here's Paige's unfit chubby ass delivering the urn
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apollo is the must unfun thing to play against, what the actual fuck
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>>558290083
>>558290043

does that mean street brawl will get updates where they rotate out legendaries?
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>>558290149
>fuck around with the textures
Looks like you just have no idea what you are talking about, retard.
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>paige
>getting dommed by shotas
Name a better duo
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>I feel like Lash in a room full of Bebops!
Your response, /dlg/? Without sounding mad.
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>>558289917
It's the opposite. Hero shooter gamers from Overwatch/Marvel Rivals would expect to get beaten because killing the enemy repeatedly doesn't give you any increased strength in those games

It's MOBA players who would be baited by the "I have a money advantage = item advantage = I can mog this guy with pure stats from now on" and then getting the tables turned on them when their opponent turns out to be a schmoovement demon or is a m1gger that can click heads real good
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>>558290181
none of the new heroes were properly balanced or tested
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>>558290240
That's one of the more cringe lines of dialogue honestly
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>>558290136
Bro your Mo&Krill????
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>>558290181
>Literally use any control ever
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>>558290223
?
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>>558290327
That sounds a little mad to me.
And I think at the point where she's on a 12 killing spree she's earned it
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>>558290354
I want to rice
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>>558288296
>risk less gameplay

slowing hex disables apollo's kit and celeste was made as another "buy knockdown" hero. by default there's nothing "riskless" about them
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>>558290354
They aint got ability to increase the amount of money, or give their allies a 4200 items
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>>558290154
omg
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Viscous ult would be cooler if you could absorb whoever you passed over.
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>phantom 3 lobby
>one team randomly gets multiple ascendant players and just stomps
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Krill should have a special passive where he gets to live after Mo dies and he can go and hop on someone else's shoulders since his gun sucks ass anyway
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>>558289898
>Yumejoshi daydream about their anime husbandos
>One common trope for YOOMing is the otome isekai where you end up with a handsome nobleman or prince
>"Ok but what if he was a cool demon guy and had horns and was good at fencing and had a tail and always spoke in a very smug manner and-"
Yoomersloppa
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do you think east coast, west coast or central has better match quality?
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>>558290509
Is that ult any good? I tried him but it just seemed to invite people to beat my ass.
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>>558287617
you drop one tomb in the lane push and save the other tomb for a teamfight, then get up in there and succ up their silvers gun damage like ur fuckin neutering her
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>>558290596
They're all shit because Yoshi is a NIGGER who can't fix the matchmaking system(because he's a stupid NIGGER)
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>>558290584
oh yeah understandable
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>>558290154
She probably forgot to wear a bra
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>>558290456
for...for free?
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>>558288560
I think how fun heroes are to play against is actually the main thing that's used for balancing
Seven is allowed to be S tier because he just had a kit that's useful at both defending and pushing objectives, but none of his kit feels bullshit especially after over a year of tuning
Meanwhile Shiv's kit is just so obnoxious that he's kept at D tier until he gets reworked
Graves on release was less irritating to play against than Apollo on release, despite her being highest WR of the new heroes and him being lowest
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I have 15+ heroes selected but I end up getting Venator like every 5th or 6th game
Why does nobody want to play this old fuck
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>be mirage
>lash partner
>keeps yoloing into fights and gets me killed
>team blames me for losing
ogey
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>>558290954
>Why does nobody want to play this old fuck
He's the only balanced new hero
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>>558290954
I suspect yoshie is fiddling the matchmaking to give priority to new heroes to add to the data used in balancing
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Should I learn Yamato or Billy
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>>558290954
He's THE default M1gger with nothing special gameplay-wise. So now that the novelty has worn off, the only people playing him are TRVE M1maxxers who have put all their irl skillpoints into aimtraining 12 hours a day
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im never gonna learn to play celeste bwos
i should just fucking play apollo from now on so i dont have to fucking bother aiming
celeste movement is just so fucking fun, shes the only hero i can (barely) bhop on bwos
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>>558290809
The virgin Paige forgets to wear a bra
The stacy Silver owns it and doesn't wear a bra on purpose
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>>558290954
I get pocket all the time even if hes my 14th-16th choice
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>>558291098
Yamato if you're trans
Billy if you're transer
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>>558291140
Thats because her tits are SMALL
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>>558291098
i think billy is more fun and probably more generally useful
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>>558290638
Viscous is weird in how he's basically like four different characters depending on how you build him, but also his gun build where you never ult is also just his best
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>>558291098
theyre both good, one is just better at 1v1s and one is better at hitting 4 man chain gangs for clips
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>>558290236
Mina and getting dommed by shota's
Geist and domming shota's
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Celeste and Rem are way more fucking broken than Apollo, you people are smoking crack if you think the guy that gets cucked beyond belief by slowing hex and counterspell is better than those two unkillable retard-proof characters.
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>Play Seven
>after we take our lane guardian or if enemy takes lane guardian
>afk farm for the next 15-20 minutes
>rape everyone
>leave
Also I realized I have no Seven art please post Seven art.
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How come pros in this game don't utilize usual MOBA tactics like leaving 1 jungle creep alive or only last hitting creeps during lane to avoid overextending? Do people just ignore macro shit for now or game is just too fast to bother with small shit like that?
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just played a very fun street brawl, this comp was fucking goated
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>>558288627
use the molest celeste build
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>>558288669
worst comes to worst just supportmaxx with a bunch of active items
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do you keep queueing even during a loss streak or do you strictly stop after 2-3 losses in a row?
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>>558291338
Thats beause he's got a basic call of duty gun, no character that isnt an m1gger carry should have a gun like that
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>>558289535
aerial mastery would be so fucking cancer in game
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>>558291395
Pushing wave is just better in 90% of the situations in Deadlock, contrary to other mobas
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>>558291406
what is this
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>>558289917
>im up 3 items i should reasonably be able to fight this person
>oh wait they can just 100-0 me with no counterplay

Shut the fuck up
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>>558291361
He's more fair now after getting taken out back but when he first released he could nuke objectives with his 3 and could AOE execute the entire enemy team to end any extended teamfight
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>>558291457
which call of duty game has a goo gun?
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>>558290464
You fags say this but how do you deal with them during the laning phase when they are flying around like a DBZ character and can't hit them with anything while they get to just dominate the lane, do you unironically rush slowing hex/knockdown first item or what?
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>>558290954
Harder to get value out of than literally any other M1 hero and weak as fuck compared to the other new faggots
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>>558291435
i genuinely cant play more than 1 game in a row, this game requires so much fucking attention i need to take a smoke and go for a walk. i cant imagine doing 3 games in a row.

>>558291474
what do you do when your side is pushing lane, but your partner stays at the guardian trying to harass them? i dont want to leave them and risk them getting dove, but i know it would be more efficient to just go get boxes/buff/etc
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>>558291532
Its just an automatic rifle gun, they are all just cod guns because they all play the same, with only exception being Seven because his gun shoots in bursts
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>>558291395
>leaving 1 jungle creep alive
I think that's just skill issue on pro players' part. They aren't perfect in every aspect of the game, contrary to what their egos believe
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>>558291130
are ya aiming at enemy feet and are ya buying velocity boost first item

I like adding kinetic dash to my early game items as it gives you a bigger mag, higher fire rate and cus ur fuckin Celeste you have loads of stamina to do the jumpdashing
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>>558291507
It's not even a true execute, it just does bonus damage below 50% hp. People actually like it's Shiv ult guaranteed kills. You have two opportunities to counterspell it and take no damage from it.
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>paige
>rem
who should my 3rd pick be for "support that does a fuckton of damage while also not having the game on their shoulders"? i know you need 4 right now with new heroes but im thinking for the future
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>>558291395
>leaving 1 jungle creep alive
used to happen a lot when cultist was better, you'd cultist the big creep and leave the rest
>only last hitting creeps during lane to avoid overextending
only really worthwhile if you've got the enemy zoned off the wave and you can completely deny them, otherwise you're better off pushing the wave quickly and using the time gained to do other shit
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explain why Graves is good. She's a gun carry with no range or damage, but has a spirit kit. And is also slow/squishy as shit. Sure if she gets fed in lane she run anawy with it i guess, but literally every character can do that. Fucking schitzo game design.
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>>558291691
shes not good nigga shes just cute
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>>558291483
look it up in game
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>>558291395
>only last hitting creeps during lane to avoid overextending
I assume because boxes, the fast movement, and nature of being a shooter where every character can more easily pressure people under their tower and escape ganks means it's just always better to have your wave pushed up.
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>>558291395
You would usually leave 1 creep behind to fuck over their jungler since you're not in there often but in Deadlock 6 niggas are roaming around constantly so it wouldn't make much difference since they'd clear it soon after.
Also you have way more casual movement at your disposal and lane minions are worth a lot more so it makes more sense to shove since objectives are never too far away to haul ass to. In League for example top usually runs Teleport just to cross the map but Deadlock has everybody zipping and zooming around.
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>>558291748
the wave being pushed up also cuts down on their zipline movement range
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>>558291657
>You have two opportunities to counterspell it and take no damage from it.
That doesn't really change the point though. Counterspell is a mandatory buy this patch but it is partially because of that ult being so strong if you don't counterspell it
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>>558291626
i dont feel like velocity boost makes it that much easier for me to hit, but yeah i aim trying to aim at feet to get the autoaim bounce.

>>558291739
theres multiple bro
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>>558291435
i go until im not having fun anymore usually. losing sucks of course but it has to happen eventually so no sense in getting upset over it.
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>>558291665
dynamo 1 is super powerful, rapid recharge, a damage buff like arcane surge will see you cleaning a creep wave at long range with the press of a button, and the spell expansion items since that goes with your ulti too, you can throw on a whole bunch of debuffs like healbane and easily get that applied to half the enemy team in a fight, it's fucking amazing
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>>558291214
There's NOTHING wrong with that
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this patch is the worst the game has ever been
almost every match is decided at the start from the random comps
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>>558291913
could be fun, so is he not built as a tank? i thought fat guy = tank
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>>558291902
go sit in testing and really examine the difference that velocity boost gives, it really does help, I promise you
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>>558291885
>filename
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>>558291885
AWOOOOOOO
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>>558291691
shes been good for like an hour, when her skulls actually did some damage, and people were too retarded to kill them. CUrrently she does nothing but ult
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>>558291973
Mo and Dynamo are both tanky so that they don't die when doing their ult, vs Abrams or Victor who are tanky so that they can take aggro off their teammates
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>>558291885
>this nigga ahh reading a book!!!
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>>558291973
not really a tank, you can get tanky items for him but, he's not really a frontline fighter at all. The big difference between him and mo and krill is that the latter is definitely a tanky frontliner, krill has a lot of life steal going on too
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>me 2 weeks ago
>man deadlock is better than ever i'm having so much fucking fun bros
>me now in archon
>sweating my ass off trying to clutch wins because the matchmaking algorithm has gone full retard placing me with imbeciles on my team while going up against cheaters or clearly better adderall faggots and i can feel myself wanting to tie a rope after every loss because i only win 2-3 times for every 10 losses
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>>558291885
>only at miller grove
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Backstabber does fucking nothing
Stop buying it holy shit
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>>558292085
>CUrrently she does nothing but ult
Do you even play her?
The root is far and away the strongest part of her kit right now, it's fucking brutal
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>>558291885
>abrams trying to bait a parry as if a Silver's gonna even bother pressing F
Lol
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>>558280080
nothing on cadence specifically. with old gods new blood we got a character in the game files named Opera, who leaks seem to think might be Cadence in some way.

deadlock ua thinks that Cadence herself will be locked to Ivy's visual novel with Opera filling the place of a music hero on the roster

hesy also says that opera was scrapped so
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i just got pillow nuked by a fed rem
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>>558292163
There's at least one Eternus faggot obviously smurfing in every second Archon game (complete with empty steam account made two months ago with only deadlock on it), it is absolutely exhausting when these adderall-fueled zoomers with perfect aim, macro, teamplay, farm, movement, parry, counterspelling and 4 actives show up to ruin the comfy Archon lobby by going 8/0 in lane and bullying everyone for 30 minutes. If Valve doesn't get a grip on this smurfing in a closed alpha shit soon then this game will be fucking destroyed by them when it's actually out.
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>>558291585
You really just need to communicate with your lane partner. The basic lane meta for deadlock is pushing your wave as hard as you can, then if you get prio you either continue harassing them if you think you can pressure the tower or get a kill. Otherwise, go get boxes/kill neutrals. But you need to communicate because yes, your teammate might get killed if you leave and they stay.
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>>558292347
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>>558292620
this is what will happen in any ranked matchmaking for this game. this is an incredibly sweaty game and eventually you will be stomped and it wont even be close.

cant wait for them to add the turbo mode
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>>558291691
She's not a gun carry, she's a teamfight support like Paige (hence why they have the 2 highest winrate boosts in Brawl compared to Standard)
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>>558292620
on one hand there aren't nearly as many cheaters in deadlock as there are in other online fps

on the other hand the amount of smurfs in this game is out of control so you regularly run into the sweatiest most tryhard adderall fps zoomers and streamers and youtubers playing with their dogshit friends or smurfing to feel better about themselves
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>>558292163
This shit happened to me as a new player, my first 15 games were with and against people who have never touched a keyboard and I only lost one game due to DCs but then it suddenly put me up against clearly competent players while still dropping all the same glue sniffers from before on my side. I still don't even know what I'm doing outside of the basics, just trying different heroes and practicing movement while my other lanes pull a combined 0-15 and lose walker by 10 minutes.
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>>558292738
what is prio?
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>>558292795
was this a real anime or did they have someone draw this just for malcom
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>>558285164
I once had a 15 loss streak in Dota on my birthday
suck it the fuck up
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>>558292930
Slang for lane priority. Basically if you managed to kill their wave before they killed yours, meaning they can't effectively trade else they're going to tank troopers and lose way more HP. Laning is all about getting prio in Deadlock.
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>high sensitivity
>can't hit shit but can react fast enough during fights and when shit hits the fan up close

>low sensitivity
>can hit shit but can't react to anything up close

>medium sensitivity
>doesn't feel as good in any situation
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>>558292917
2024 Deadlock had a lot of cheaters playing Haze and Wraith, but I haven't seen anyone I can say for sure is cheating since I came back for the brool update. There are definitely a shitload of smurfs in regular though.
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Mina is probably an analslut
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>>558293024
Yeah, it's called Nazca. Apparently Bryan Cranston worked on the dub and that's part of why it's in there.
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>>558291885
>only at miller grove
kek
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Do these niggers flag your account if you get chat restricted once and then automatically mute you because of a single report or something? Is this another game where I have to completely unbind all chat button
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YES I love going up against the extreme aggression rape demon smurf in lane!
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>>558291581
It's so laughable when people say he's weak compared to the other new heroes. He definitely leans more towards overpowered than underpowered and other than Silver I don't think he's weaker than any of them.
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>>558293354
If you're getting chat restricted in a Valve game then you're almost certainly a gigantic faggot and should unbind all your chat buttons for everybody's sake.
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>>558293146
https://mouseacceleration.com
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>>558293585
projection by a brownoid + doesn't answer my question
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I can’t kill.
I can keep people alive and distract, so objectives, defend lanes and clean up lanes.
But I cannot fuckin’ kill. I just cannot.
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>>558288901

did you read any of what you were typing or did you let schizophrenia take the wheel?
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>>558291581
>>558293528
There is no world where a pure damage nuker is weak, people are just bad at him
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>>558293640
>projection by a brownoid
lol
>doesn't answer my question
I did answer your question. You're just too retarded to figure it out.
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>>558290154

you will never feel Paige's chubby, unfit ass sitting on your face
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>>558291565
>get an item to shutdown a character
>but-b-b-b-ut the build I'm following doesn't have that item in it!!!!
>AAIIIIEEE I can't think for myself
>they should just be gutted!!!
fuck off my game nigger
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>>558293895
Nah you're just spewing brownoid nonsense, I figured it out completely
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i was told geist can anchor lane well but I feel like I take too much damage bombing waves, do I buy monster rounds
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>>558293893
I mean his ult really doesn't do that much damage anymore so this pic doesn't apply.
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okay, wheres my invoker hero, icefrog? what about my meepo hero?? huh?? HUH???
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>>558294012
I still chunk people for half their health in the late game
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>>558293940
lol, okay dumdum
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>>558294063
We need techies. I want to place invisible mines in front of sinners all game.
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>>558286930
She'd be a lot more popular if she wasn't Neon Prime. I wonder if they're holding off on redoing her so they can have her VA do lines for all the current characters and whatever new ones they're cooking up
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Paige is boring as fuck to play.
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>>558294257
We had them but Yoshi killed him and turned him into a goth teenager
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>>558294063
i want an abathur and murky equivalent
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>>558294257
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4QS3rCDlg4
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>>558293736
Same
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>>558294073
A lot of heroes will chunk you in the late game.
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how do I get a cute bf to play deadlock with
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so should i not play celeste at all if i'm not a schmovement freak? i'm trying her out in street brawl and i'm not able to do shit
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>>558294638
You need to first understand how celeste's kit works and how you can use it to kill people.
Movement with her is mostly taking advantage of source velocity shit.
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>>558293986
I wish I knew. Sometimes all you can do is get healing and throw them from a distance
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>>558294554
hi
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>>558294778
i understand her kit, 3 with the spirit amp and how her ult works and her shield and the silencing and her 1 and how it adds spirit damage to her shots

but hitting the shots is hard
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I don't know if I've ever had a good or fun game playing as Venator. I get utterly shit stomped every single time.
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>>558293939
this but unironically. the only characters that have an excuse are pure gun carries, the rest of the team can always have 1-3 CCs. hell, tanks even have phantom strike which is their best all-in-one disarm/blink.
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>>558287539
Icefrog doesn't care.

>Io
~39% winrate in pubs
Permabanned in comp

>Omniknight
consistently 55%+ WR in pubs
never picked in comp

Dota has had at minimum ~70% of the roster picked every tournament for a decade and a half.
League literally had ~15% of the roster picked every tournament until Riot literally FORCED the competitive scene to pick different heroes by banning them after they'd been picked per round.

Riot is THE definition of artifical. And to top it all off they try and hide this fact by constantly pumping out 'developer' videos where their faces sit behind a cam and justify all their shitty balancing decisions.
Meanwhile, during their actual personal laid back streams, they admit to intentionally ruining heroes in comp play because they have an abnormally high winrate in lower pubs.
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>>558294835
pls be in chongching
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>>558287539
does seven have a high winrate in high elo because of his farming? or is his kit just that good
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>>558294951
>they admit to intentionally ruining heroes in comp play because they have an abnormally high winrate in lower pubs
based

fuck competitive cucks
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>>558289535
Unironically might happen one day. 60 minute neutral items are basically just like this in Dota 2 and are put in to say "END THE FUCKING GAME YOU RETARDS".
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>>558295034
one of the best laning kits (free AOE knockdown, orb pokes, best steroid) and requiring coordination to take down usually equals a strong hero
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>>558288539
hot ixian women
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>>558287539
The fact Mina has a low winrate should tell you how useless those numbers are for judging balance. Learn to actually articulate why something is good or bad and defend the position if you want to be taken seriously.
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>>558289535
>no ring of repick
>randomly swap to a new hero in the cast with the same items and levels with buffs for 30s

baka
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>>558294638
You need to get used to her weapon first, the shots are pretty slow but they rebound with a bit of autoaim. You don't really need to be an air strafing god to play her well (but it helps of course).

>>558294861
In brawl specifically I like to get all her skills to level 2 and depending on the items I get I either max out her ult or her shield. Movement doesn't matter here as much since it's pretty confined.
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Can anyone tell me why Hidden King side gets a door from this camp to lane, but the Archmother side does not get this door???

Its infuriating
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>>558295208
Cadence can't come to the game soon enough.
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>Enemy team use FOUR solo ults on me
>lash, seven, haze, graves (which I'll admit has some utility after I die though)
>my team STILL MANAGES TO LOSE THE FIGHT AFTER
fuck me
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>>558295286
>The fact Mina has a low winrate should tell you how useless those numbers are for judging balance.
No it shouldn't, not in and of itself. Not unless you can actually articulate WHY it's the case. You can't just be a statistician and then not be able to understand and explain the statistics.
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Who is the easiest champion to learn the game with?

I keep getting steamrolled in cs and lasthitting.
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>>558284836
Vampires are very common in smut so she has probably fantasized about something like that at least once
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Why are Mina's thighs so fucking fat.
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>Valve still has uploading screenshots on steam disabled for Deadlock
>as if people aren't full on streaming the game daily on twitch
ENABLE THAT SHIT ALREADY
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>>558291902
>theres multiple bro
no there isnt retard
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Apollo needs to sleep after the ritual.
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>>558295520
victor
you just need to learn to turn off your 3 and when to jump in and go balls to the wall
you can do some cool tech with his 2 to immune stuff like bebop pull
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gay sex with apollo
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>25% chance for 100% more damage
how much dps increase is this? any numbers?
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>>558295520
Paige
Don't have to use your gun, don't have to farm, don't have to jungle
All you do is cast spells from far away
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>>558295756
Apollo is not gay and is in love with Darcy Graves.
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>>558295767
25%
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>>558295767
2 * .25 + 1 * .75 = 1.25
Or a 25% increase
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>>558294951
Because league's main income source is champions and skins. Their esport shit is one big advert for champions, not the game. They know if some pro pops off on a champion it's gonna get picked by casuals and sell skins.
And since casuals are 99% of playerbase it is in riot's interest to keep them happy.
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>>558295767
Anon...
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>>558295767
this is like a 6th grader math question dude dont embarass yourself
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I'm debating playing tonight.
On the one hand, I enjoy the game for the most part.
On the other, it's Sunday, and there's only so many one-sided matches I can mentally take.
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>>558295859
>>558295863
>>558295871
>>558295880
i-i was just testing you guys...
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>>558280053
>TAKE WHAT IS YOUR'S
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>went from arcanist 6 to arcanist 2 trying to learn celeste
well eventually ill win a game
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>>558295965
It's ok to be dumb anon
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does kelvin even have a purpose anymore
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>>558295335
you have to find the key
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>>558288539
USA in Deadlock is still in manifest destiny mode
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>>558296052
built-in faggot detector
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>>558296023
Its brawling time
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>>558296052
his purpose is to be another character for my friend to go 0/10 in lane as, alongside billy, drifter, mcginnis, and dynamo
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>>558296035
What if Rem hugs a pedophile
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What hero specific keybinds do you guys use?
I've heard of right click getting appropriated for Apollo's 3 and crouch on Viper, but what else?
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>>558295286
>The fact Mina has a low winrate should tell you how useless those numbers are for judging balance
It's a data point. Just because it's not the end of the story doesn't mean it's useless. You use that data to further analyze the character and back up your conclusions. Like how Shiv eats shit in pubs but gets picked all the time in coordinated play. If your only conclusion from that is just that the character is good and the winrates are wrong then you're an idiot.
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>>558296147
Hi, Dave.
And I'll have you know my Dynamo goes 1/0/27.
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why don't all of the heroes just agree on one side to support so that no one has to die and they all get their wish :)
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>Warden, Apollo, Gay Talon, Paige, Mirage
>All building counterspell + debuff remover
>Still top dmg as Greenbop
I LOVE THIS FUCKING GOLEM
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>>558199114
#ranked up
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>want to play a char that isn't haze.
>Every non-haze game I play i get braindead carries who can't get picks or kill people.
>go back to haze and get competent teammates again.
ughhhhhh
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>>558296149
That's just a Rem/Drifter lane
>>558296164
Right click for Doorman door
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>>558296164
I put Venator's 2 on my thumb button specifically for making wall boosting easier with it, though I haven't gotten the timing down perfectly yet
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geist if she was hot
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>>558295994
She's been doing this way before she became a vampire btw
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>>558296283
There are other m1gger carry characters you know
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>>558296328
What is this about anime cratoons that erases a person's sense of taste?
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>>558296328
Why are french women such huge sloots?
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I swear to Christ I rank up more from losing than I do winning. I think i rank down more when i win. This matchmaking/ranking system is so turbofucked.
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>>558296120
>The first event thing happened in 1899
>Deadlock is set in 1949, 50 years later
>Infernus, an Ixian in his late 20s/early 30s is a second generation migrant, putting his birth around 1920ish
>in real life, niggers were still seen as questionably human in the 50s
>in deadlock, literal fucking demon alien migrants were welcomed with open arms in the fucking 1910s
>the friends of humanity is perceived as "controversial" for suggesting that maybe we don't want to throw our resources into a fucking interplanar war and take in all their migrants
The rancid stench of Sweet Baby Inc still lingers on Deadlock to this day
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Smug portrait Kelvin looks like a basedjack
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A teamfight is about to happen mid, but a wave is pushed up to your base. You are the most farmed person on your team.
Do you go to the fight, or clear the wave?
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The thing about Deadlock outfit mods is that the characters are already sexually appealing as-is
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Rem's butt looks so soft and fluffy and fuckable
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>>558296719
perfectly suits his playerbase
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>>558296770
wave
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I really do not get shiv late game. He seems shit. Im shit
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Funny how I hate playing supports in League or other hero shooters, but here and in DOTA supps are just hate crime dispensers, created to bully the enemy team as much as humanly possible. Why is it only Valve who figured out how to make fun supports?
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>>558296627
That's great champ but idk what it has to do with my post
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>losing really badly
>enemy team talking shit all game
>goes on for too long, we come back
>start winning
>pause right before game ends to rub it all back into their faces
is there a more satisfying feeling?
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VALVE

HIRE

THIS

MAN
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all that warden/vyper/yamato meme art will be lost in time... like tears in rain
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>>558296897
Gay supports, soft cc shitty debuff/buff/heal bots
Good supports, hard cc, nukers
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>>558294887
490400
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>>558296897
>Why is it only Valve who figured out how to make fun supports?
deadlock supports are the add zoomer version of what support should be in a video game.
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>>558297008
Vyper art will be found on r34 once her visual update comes out
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>>558297008
Yeah it's gonna be really weird in the future when they get actual final designs and people will be asking who the fuck are that weird cop and 9head ayy lmao.
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>>558296912
I think I had originally intended to address your statement directly but then I started thinking about the politics of the setting and it got away from me
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>>558296973
please save the fae satyr design for a new ixian hero
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>>558296897
Because Valve games are only ones where the roles exist for a reason, and not arbitrary decision of a gamedesigner that went "Guys, lets do it like in MMO games!".
Leage roles are completely artificial and designed by Riot.
In overwatch all the damage dealers are lame as fuck, so instead of making them interesting, they made it so you HAVE to have two, limited it to 1 tank, and turned supports into heal bots.
IDK about rivals.
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>>558296770
there are too many variables to give a straight answer for this:
>which hero am I, and am I fast?
>how many people are at the fight?
>is there someone on the other team that can easily backdoor T4s here
etc.
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>>558297140
Yamato alien skin will be the $1000 tier reward of the 2028 Deadlock Battle Pass
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>>558296283
I feel the same but I honestly think part of that isn't getting better teammates just that Haze is fairly self-reliant. Having bad teammates on Venator feels so much worse than on Haze.
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>>558297247
>and turned supports into heal bots
Nigga the problem with Supports in Overwatch is that they do too much stuff that isn't healing
The problem with peak Brig was that she could heal AND duel any character in the game and win
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>>558294638
the movement is only there to get you in and out of combat safely

she's primarily a hit and run fighter, farts out all of her spells at once, backs off a bit for the shield and the dashes to reload, jumps back in again, just chipping away all the while with the auto attacks which do have surprisingly long range
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never playing mirage again holy fuck what an absolute garbage hero i want to kill myself
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HERE COMES THE BARREL!
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>>558295337
this design is so nice but it's so vanilla I doubt it won't change, I just hope the final design keeps her MASSIVE thick long tail and the hefty hips to hold it up
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>>558296813
sick art
I wish I could draw this good
body proportions are so fucking hard
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>>558297247
>limited it to 1 tank
I curse blizzard for this every day. Theres no fucking reason for forced team comp in ow, let alone 1-2-2, outside of little bitch m1ggers who get mad when they don't just auto win because they clicked heads like in deadlock. Off-tank was the most fun position in OW.

I do wish deadlock had a dedicated healer support, though. Not this here's one cool down that gives the team a little dick tickle of sustain' thing that valve thinks is healing.
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>>558297458
which would've been fine, if they gave up a useless notion that supports must heal.
I might have worded it wrongly, they WANT all supports to be healers, which is dumb and unccecesary, but they keep doing it because of a completely artificial role distribution, that shouldve never been part of the game design
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i like victor because i can afk farm for 20 minutes and then rape everyone
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Cadence needs to be fatter.
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>>558297458
>The problem with peak Brig
brig was really the beginning of the end for ow. Dive needed to be dealt with, but honestly, they could have just buffed the non dive tanks a bit and it would have been fine.
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>>558297703
Rem can keep his entire team topped up pretty easily, especially with echo shard.
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how does antiheal stacking work?
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>>558297776
I see
That's just a problem with how their combat wound up being designed. They tried a non healing support with Symmetra and they decided it didn't fit with their vision.
I think it works for the Hero Shooter genera when it's carefully balanced (it never will be)
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>mirage gets to the late game
this nigga is strong
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>>558296328
this is total goonslop
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>>558298051
no he isnt he is fucking garbage cause all his damage is behind autos but you cant auto anyone late cause you get gangbanged by 6 people
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>>558298139
and other things seekers say
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Darcy needs a bigger dick
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>>558294861
the way she plays in normal games is different from how she plays in brawl
idk if any other hero suffers from this
in normal games you level 1 then 2 and fling yourself at people, you can't really do that in brawl
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>>558296770
how do you think I got farmed in the first place?
wave of course
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>>558298016
I just dont beive that mandatory role distinction really something needed anywhere.
Maybe its because im a Dota child, but to me it always seemed mad when roles are set in stone like that
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>The dead are good a rote tasks
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>>558297696
just do some quick figure drawing exercises every day
only takes like half an hour each day for a few weeks to get your brain starting to understand how bodies are put together automatically
search 'figure drawing exercises' theres lots of free websites for it
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what i do to subhuman faggots that back when the enemy wave is crashed
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Apollo nerfs fucking when??
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>>558298197
im emissary tahts like a ltitle beter
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When are we getting hair down graves
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>>558296813
Vampire brat should know her place
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what other characters can do 50k damage and 40k healing a game, I wont be able to 1 trick yamato when I want to after the remodel.
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>>558293146
low sensitivity and a huge mousepad is the way to go. you want a 20" mousepad and set your sens so that a full swipe across the pad turns your character about 540 degrees or so.
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>>558298559
dynamo
kevin
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>>558298559
Abrams and Victor
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>>558298257
You gotta understand that these games are shooting for a far more normie audience than DOTA is
The more refined roles make the characters more approachable by giving the average dummy a broad idea of what each character is supposed to be doing
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>have Victor banned
>have had him in 4/5 of last 5 games
this system is such fucking dogshit
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all of the modded clips and screenshots i see are so disheartening
we really lost 90% of gamers to design ruining cosmetics forever huh
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>>558298257
Without role restriction OW devolved into 5 tank deathball because why pick anything else but the fattest jobs and one healer to keep them topped up.
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>>558298881
Eminem Billy and Dr Dre Infernus when?
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>>558297467
FOR DA DJINN
AAAEEEUUUGGGHHH
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>>558297057
I will try it.
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>>558298016
the funny thing is that sym was retarded strong when her overshields had an actual nonzero value and they gutted it because it was extremely uninteractive and boring, not for any other reason, yet somehow never drew the connection from this conclusion to the endless pocket healing the game eventually worked its way into
really sym was just an abortion of a character from the onset, and the flaws were mostly a result of their design philosophy in trying to ensure that every support is as braindead as humanly possible, which was something they never really fixed for the characters who did heal
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it's crazy how Overwatch is less of a shooter game than Deadlock is these days
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Whenever I see this I think of the furry divorced parents arguing image.
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>>558299046
it has been 2 years since his voice acting sounded like that
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>>558299097
2 years since sovl died
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>>558298963
Yeah, and thats not a problem you solve by restricting the heroes you can pick, its a problem you solve by not making it so picking 5 tanks is optimal.
At the very least, you could make it so all the utility abilities like cc and displacement are not locked to tanks and supports, so Damage dealers actually do something besides damage, which literally any character can do already
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YOU'RE DELIGHTFUL, CALICO
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>>558298793
Sorry chud Vic is FUN to play deal with it
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I had a dream where Mina and Silver were fighting over me
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>>558299236
And Mina won, right?
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>>558299236
They were fighting over rem and his BSC
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mina > silver > ivy > graves > paige > vindicta > geist > holliday > celeste
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Tried doing a gun celeste build, but it's not working too well.
It's fine, but it's not as strong as easy to use as just aiming for ult + shield bounce build.
Not sure if I should keep trying after 5 lose streaks with that.
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>>558296973
>cloven hooves for a unicorn
Valve, blacklist this man from the industry
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Remember when we had rofl graffiti?
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I strongly believe matchmaking is currently designed to torment the people who were so obsessed with rank progression they wanted it added before the game even has a finished map. And every update that has since fucked around with the ranks is him refreshing the pain to keep the wounds fresh
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>>558299236
Would only make sense if you were 10-12 years old
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>>558299339
She got disarmed hex'd and Mina forced herself into me
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i'm queueing up for a match guys please be kind to me i'm archon
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>>558296897
One thing Valve always nails are support roles. From Medic to character like Dazzle to Dynamo they feel good to play.
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>watch deadlock video
>jeet jumpscare 10 seconds in
>immediately stop watching
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>Silver be like "I want a better life."
>Patron doesn't do anything.
>Silver goes to a bar to get drunk.
>Meets a guy
>Talks to him for a while
>Starts going steady with him
>Get's knocked up
>marry out of wedlock
>He's well off.
>Live a comfortable life as a mother and wife.
>Technically she got her wish.
>I'm the guy btw.
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>>558299919
Medic is an overtuned healslut by today's standards let's be real
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>"oversaturated" genre
>make one with marvel characters
>success
>make one with valve characters
>success
Gamers are so fucking stupid
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>>558300062
They need to nerf the fucking Crossbow.
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>>558300053
Silver is rem exclusive, srry anon.
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>>558300090
>make one with marvel characters
>success
lmao that shit game is dead
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Dumbass niggers on reddit are actually trying to use this as an argument that Apollo and Celeste are fine and that they need to nerf Seven. It's not even a joke post, they actually believe this
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>>558300090
marvel rivals killed itself with shit balancing
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>>558300090
>make one with titanfall devs
>flop
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luv me Venator
simple as
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>>558296897
Dota supports were made with the philosophy "healing sucks." There were very few healers in dota and the best one (Necro) was a carry. Ice frogs influence obviously spilled into this game because supports are all about making enemies have a bad day rather than sucking your carry's ass
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>>558298953
With Lion it's kind of his thing of seeing how much RGB particle vomit you can stuff on him
But yeah this is volvo's business model so look forward to anime maid mcginnis or whatever
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>Graves, Celeste, Silver

Valve is spoiling us with these trans heros
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>>558300170
the winrates are opposite of reality, apollo and celeste were the highest picked/banned last night shift
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>>558300053
Gay furry self-inserter
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>>558300185
Explain. I've really never heard anyone complain about Rivals
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>>558300273
apollo was banned once and picked once, why lie through your fucking teeth
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>>558300090
>Hero shooter to a 3rd person MOBA
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>hasn't seen singsing for a while
>check his stream
>playing deadlock
>looks like he transitioned
This game does have that effect on people
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>>558300476
>>looks like he transitioned
He literally looks exactly the same as he did 13 years ago
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>>558300185
>>558300158
>113k players right now
>killed itself
>dead
this is your brain on /v/ fumes
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>>558300185
>>558300409
Yeah explain. The only thing I know about MR is the porn and my friend plays the fuck outta Captain America to be a dipshit.
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>>558300256
I feel like celeste would detest trannies is this all just because her hair is bubblegum colours?
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>>558300460
oh no one minor detail was wrong now my whole post is incorrect
stop coping
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>>558300409
same deal as overwatch
>healing grotesquely overpowered but boring to do so role unpopular
>buff healing to attempt to funnel people into the role
>game devolves into healspam blender where nothing actually happens until ults get farmed every fight
the only thing it doesnt have is widowmaker getting buffed every other patch and making the game unplayable
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>>558299823
>PLEASE LOOK AT MY CHARACTER PLEASE PLEASE LOOK EVERYONE AT MY IRRELEVANT POST BUT HERE'S MY MOOOOOOOOOOD TEEHEE :33333333

I think you might be better suited to literally any gacha/mmo general
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>>558300767
bodied that freak
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>turn on extra competitive mode
>still get teams who deathball brool in a single lane while every other lane gets sidepushed and taken, never do anything to stop late game characters from farming it up, and otherwise play the exact same

is this just a dunning kruger thing where all the retards click this button because they think they're good or what
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>>558300767
mad
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>Ascendant games
>Stomp them, put up good stats on average
>Queue with lower ranked friends
>Get raped
Is ranked just fucked
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>>558300919
Noone knows what the fuck it does or if it's even working at all currently.
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>>558300919
>he fell for the extra competitive toggle
yoshi is laughing at you btw
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>>558300409
NTA but I used to be an eternity tank player, supportoids (fags, egirls, redditors ect) will complain unless 90% of the healing cast is S++++ hard meta tier. DPS is still good but tanks take the balencing hit due to the other 2 roles being better. I called many 500+ viewer streamers fags leaving me to rot on solo tank while they flopped on DPS so I havent touched that game in 8+ months. the balence catering to support and dps players happens because they are all the cash cows when it comes to skins. Now I just chill in shitlow archon and oracle while having much more fun here.
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>>558300692
I unironically liked the old ow support line up. Mercy was just your basic bitch healing, lucio gave speed utility and burst healing, and ana ult was really fun.

I do wish there were a couple heros in Deadlock that could get value by doing somtihng thats not clicking heads or farming.
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>>558289535
wtf ive never seen apex combat, ancient shielding, shadow step, timeless emblem, haunting scream, or aerial mastery at all
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>>558300879
Based Mina
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who are these mystery niggas getting wrecked by the mythical overpowered apollo
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>>558301247
They're currently unobtainable in brool
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>>558300919
Yes it is. It might be even worse because you get retards who think they are Acendant but the system is keeping them down.
No magic button can give you good teammates because every single player on their own is a retard.
The ones who are not are in pro teams.
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Here's your lane partner bro
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>friend complains that he still sucks at the game despite having 50 hours
>watch him play
>he consistently goes 0/5 minimum in lane, never farms or clears waves, just brools nonstop, keeps trying to start 1v1s against fed enemies with double his amount of souls constantly, ends up with 20 deaths on average at the end and has by far the least amount of souls in the lobby
>just picks a random top daily build, doesnt look at whats inside, clicks auto queue and auto buy, does this and complains about how he doesnt know what any of the items are
>never buys counters and complains about how whoever is the fed enemy carry needs nerfs (most of the time it his lane opponent that he fed the fuck out of)
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>>558301718
i hope he doesn't feed
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idea: ban people who don't buy a single CC active in 1,000 matches straight
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every fucking match my team wants to brool so i'm stuck on lane janny duty
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LET ME BE STAINED BY THE BLOOD OF THE WICKED
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>>558301718
made for ixian men
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I'm... IMPROVING???
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>>558302078
You're gonna make it initiatebro
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>>558302024
i played against a venator earlier that was like 'thank you lord for this W' as the game started but then we beat his team
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>>558301821
I farm and clear waves and don't die and get a lot of souls and it makes no difference
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>>558301821
I do kinda wish the build browser was a bit more....idk robust or separated or somthing. Most people arnt going to get full value from high rank builds because they just arnt that good at the game to the point where .02% extra of situational whatever the fuck matters. Or builds with a millions 'if x buy y or if a buy b'. Most people dont have to learn a speadsheet.

Id like to see more dumbshit generalist builds of items that are just 'good most of the time'
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>>558299093
I think "in all ways but physical, I am Suzie from Deltarune"
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>There's a North Ixia
>That is where Apollo is from
So what is South, East, and West Ixia like?
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>>558302157
I don't even know how to interpret the build/sell order in a lot of this shit,
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>>558302264
South Ixia is the 52nd state
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>>558301718
I'll take him on!
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>>558302135
I saw a script that puts bible verses into your clipboard after every kill so you can paste them into chat
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Calico's redesign should give her cat glasses.
>inb4 someone mentions that faggot robber cat
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>>558299093
I think of that one image people make fun of silver with with the chihuahua with a white wig.
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>>558300409
>>558300608
>>558300610
it's what that anon said
marvl rivals is an endless loop of 3 supports, cancer dps and no one plays tank
>but 100k players
yeah that's true, but thegame feels like complete garbage to play. every match is the same
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>mexican family exists in spanish harlem
>they get their hands on a gargoyle stooge that shows up out of the blue
>immediately set themselves to becoming the local suzerain cartel and offing everyone in the way
lol wtf
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>>558302201
who from what?
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>>558302157
I don't know if builds could get more retarded than this. Just buy L --> R and don't think.

All problems could be solved if build browser had obvious tags that say "beginner" and "advanced" "expert" or some shit.
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>icefrog adds sprays into the game
what's the first thing you're spraying?
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>>558302780
my own cropped furry porn
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>>558302780
Mina x other female heroes hypnosis porn
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>>558302780
my own cropped bara porn
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>>558302780
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>>558302780
Something that only I find funny
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Have you been getting in your melee Venator games before they nerf it this week?
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>>558303067
i only play rem and ivy and mcginnis
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>>558303128
damn that's the gayest hero pool I've ever seen
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>>558302780
https://files.catbox.moe/hww3nm.png
This is my spray since forever
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Good movement in this game seems too hard to learn it makes me want to just not bother playing
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>>558303163
tyvm broski i do try
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>>558303237
that's nice dear
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>117346 players for Silver release
>112715 players for Venator release
We were at 125290 a few hours ago and no one commented on it, it seems this unreleased game has some solid player retention now!
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>>558303302
just wait until we get the item economy. only question is if they're gonna wait for open beta or not
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>>558302741
>All problems could be solved if build browser had obvious tags that say "beginner" and "advanced" "expert" or some shit.
That would still be useless unless there was some impartial arbiter of what levels of info you need to qualify for those tags, if they're purely set by the build creators there's nothing stopping someone just copypasting their old guides and slapping a noob tag on it to get the most views.
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why did volvo make a cartel headchopper this cute
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>>558303067
No. I despise jewish opium for the masses and cucks who spread it.
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>>558302780
Start spraying pal
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>>558302741
>All problems could be solved if build browser had obvious tags that say "beginner" and "advanced" "expert" or some shit.
It does have these, you can put a difficulty tag for the 3 tag icon things
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>see people actually using vc
>can't make out any of what they're saying ever over the ambient noise of a match and my gangster rap spotify playlist for accompanying deadlock games
straight pimpin'
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>Win ONE(1) game
>Matchmaker does this next

Please be subtle with your bullshit Valve<3
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>>558292567
I better be getting my thick tailed, wide hipped, large thighs, big tits demon mommy
She's the only reason why I'm bothering to learn this game
Yoshi I swear I will do to you what Mario does to save himself from failed jumps
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>>558303067
>melee Venator
Yeah i love watching some retard jump around all teamfight to get two melees in maybe
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>>558303067
Just fucking punch people you've stunned into walls normally without having to make an entire fucking build around it, Venator has literally no escape options for how squishy he is (I know about putting a trap behind you but that really only works in a confined space)
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>>558303808
>Don't play for a while
>Get "those" kinds of matches back to back to back
>Go up in rank
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what's the dif between key player and mvp?
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>>558303979
It's literally just Melee Charge and Lifestrike, that's it lmao. You can upgrade the Melee Charge to Crushing Fists later if you really want to.
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>>558303372
Just have the amount of items be the cutoff points like 20 is beginner 30 advanced 30+ expert.
That way it would eliminate the issue of newbie builds that dump half of the store on you.

>>558303481
Yeah but no one uses those icons for shit, it feels like people select random ones for le funnies
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The item that singlehandedly carried me out of shitlow
>Everybody and their mother in low ranks tries to heavy melee constantly
>None of them know how to parry
>They will either keep trying to punch you, get heavy melee'd and die, or stay away from you, knowing you have your insurance policy on hand
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>>558304031
MVP is gold medal
Key player is silver medal, one for each team
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Am I a degenerate if I want to see Graves and Apollo get married and have babies?
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>>558304401
Not true.
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>>558304401
I'm getting slightly better at predicting parries but I've never bought this item because it feels unreliable and doesn't build into anything
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>>558304401
I have 145 hours and 170 games and I still cannot parry heavy attacks on reaction. I hate being a reactionlet.
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>>558300368
None of that was gay THOUGH
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>>558302660
Thanks for your input William
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>>558300674
na, thats you coping lmao. go caught lying because you're seething at apollo and making shit up
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I swear to christ every streamer just plays Silver it's so fucking boring to watch
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>>558305129
>watching streamers
Retard
I love looking at Silver though so that wouldn't be a problem for me in and of itself
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holy shit first time playing rem
this lil nigga is broken
how is this nigga so fucking fun
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>>558304850
There is a parrybot in the sandbox, practice against him by listening to the sound queue, not by looking at the animation
>>558304831
I wish it built into counterspell
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>>558305331
He's fast, he's tiny, he's cute, his m1 is great, he's satisfying from phase 1 since he's a strong laner, and his kit is great.
Whether or not he's broken I do not really know, I'm too young to the game myself, but he's definitely fun. I still prefer Dynamo for my healing builds though.
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>>558304850
I was up against an Infernus in Alchemist who instantly parried literally every melee attack I threw out. I had to aim them away at the last second.
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>>558305514
there are cheats that auto parry
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>>558305454
he's definitely broken
>support
>farming utility
>big aoe damage
>great gun
>small hitbox
>can escape inside of allies
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https://x.com/i/status/2025765800515387716
Holly kinniiiooo
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I see Warp Stone being bought on every hero in high level games lately
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>>558305393
>I wish it built into counterspell
Problem is you'd need to buff counterspell to include rebuttal's abilities which would be a considerable buff to counterspell
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>>558305725
I really hate that I clicked that
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>>558305759
Because it's a good item
>16s cooldown
>30% bullet resist
Crazy how they nerfed leap and not this item.
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>>558299542
Classical unicorns have clover hooves. They also have lion's tails, which Celeste has here, so it's all consistent
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I just started playing yesterday and I think every match I've played has had an enemy Abrams who utterly shitstomps my entire team but somehow still loses
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How do you cope whenever your allies feed their ass off? If it's a cute female hero I imagine they're being fucked so hard they can't think straight.
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What Geist build is good for low level shitters?
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Why do people on kill streaks never want to do objectives? I've lost so many games to people killing lane but then leaving as soon as walker is open.
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I LOVE MY LIL NIGGA REM
I DONT EVEN HAVE TO GET GOOD AT AIMING
IM GONNA SPAM THIS NIGGA AND SEE HOW HIGH I CAN GET RANKED
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I was the first Black Ivy player
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>>558306153
>most healing AND most damage
arcanist 2 btw
i love this nigga like you wouldnt beliueve
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>Do tutorial
>Play a few solo bot matches to practice
>Decide to play a coop bot match to get the feel of playing with others
>Very first game
Wtf....
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>>558306280
>those builds
kek
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>>558306305
Don't even bother playing coop vs bots, it won't teach you anything and everyone always disconnects
Just trial by fire in regular matches
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>>558306280
Man that venator must be furious.
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>>558306232
That is not my problem.
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Quick question.

How did Valve handle the story in Dota 2? Was there some actual progression via comics, events & updates? And how did they handle shitload of heroes? Did they just focus on a few characters based on popularity?

I'm curious if deadlock's 'plot' will be forever stuck at one point in time. Just got into this game because mina cute and I want more of her
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I go 18-2 as Abrams, top 1 net worth, yet we lose and my team keeps pinging me and saying "Careful Abrams". Wtf is this game's playerbase

Also, I tried Celeste vs bots and she seems very powerful. Lots and lots of damage. Too bad everyone wants to play her so I can't. Also, too bad she has so many buttons I've got no time to goon to her non-safe-horny body.

Also
>4 mistyped captchas in a row
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>>558289535
Having a single T5 store credit given to a team via a Midboss drop on the third death onward, or ideally from some other late game objective, would be cool.
Getting one of these items for free might be too good though so I think you'd still have to pay for it at the price of like a T3/T4 or something.
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i've been spamming apollo but it seems like people just autobuy slowing hex now. rip you had a good run captain spark-lite
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>>558291338
his gun build got pooped on and his fist build is currently the best
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>>558306305
Bots won't teach you anything, those retards just brool nonstop, never farm, never strategize, never counter, never do midboss, you'll brainlessly go 30/0 against them and learn nothing
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>>558306342
Why do they even bother queuing if they're just gonna quit instantly?
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>>558306690
Sounds very much like my Arcanist games desu.
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do you think graves and apollo compare dick sizes
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I like building Victor with Juggernaut, Ballistic Enchantment, Escalating Resilience, Point Blank, Toxic Bullets, Leech, Rapid Recharge, Escalating Exposure, and Healing Tempo. I generally also pick up Spirit Resilience and Spellbreaker because of how Spirit-heavy most builds tend to be. Any tips on other items I should swap out or consider to W+M1 people to death? Inhibitor tends to help for characters who have a chance at outlasting me, but I don't really have an answer for characters with xboxhueg burst damage.
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>>558303302
judging by how many "DEADLOCK IS THE NEXT BIG THING" videos youtube is giving me in my feed, it's more likely word of mouth spreading than retention
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>>558306690
Whenever I play Mina against medium bots, I lose
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>>558306943
>gun victor without berserker
que
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>>558306937
can't
apollo is ftm
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i don't know how to make celeste work i don't do any damage and i die in no time at all
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Shota hero when?
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remove vindicta from the game
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>>558306690
Meh, it's basically just a way to lab without using a dummy. Considering I'm literally first-timing some of these characters it teaches me ranges and combos.
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>>558306943
my team told me to kill myself last time i played victor without buying infuser
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>>558307123
THERE you are.
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this game gives me tanktard fatigue
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>>558306530
dota 2 doesn't really have a story, deadlock probably won't either it will just be a game where all the characters have a background and allude to knowing each other
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>>558306943
Oh yeah, and of course I always pick up Fleetfoot. It's funny that I forgot that despite slapping it on almost every hero I play.
>>558307037
I never thought about Berserker, thanks for the heads up. Would it be worth it considering how low Victor's base gun damage seems to be?
>>558307198
I generally prefer Leech to Infuser just because people tend to have better movement/more stamina than me unless I pick up Slowing Bullets. Maybe I'll give it a shot, but I think I'd need more Spirit investment to get equal use out of it.
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unironically a huge improvement that makes the game more diverse since there are no blonde females
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>>558307383
>AI sloppa
gross
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>>558307383
Why is the cat white
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What do you do when the entire enemy is coming toward the urn and you haven't hit your power spike? Is it best to not contest even if your teammates will yell?
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>>558306690
>those retards just brool nonstop, never farm, never strategize, never counter, never do midboss, you'll brainlessly go 30/0 against them and learn nothing
wow so the bots are just like shitlow players got it
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>>558296897
Because they know a character that revolves around watching somebody else get to play the video game is the gayest thing imaginable and why everybody fights to play DPS in hero shooters.
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>Channeled spells can't be interrupted by silences
Wow Valve I didn't know this was literally your first multiplayer game ever, you know this was a solved thing like 30 years ago right?
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>Killing people nonstop
>Every lobby a horde of gamerdads just descend upon me
>People whining they're "friendly" every single time
Why won't it put me into actual PvP lobbies I'm sick of hearing basedboys whinging, I literally got 4 kills on stella then instantly got put into a full friendly lobby
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>>558296897
Because in League and OW/Rivals, the supports are just healsluts that hold down right click the entire time and are designed so that female gamers have something to latch on to
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>>558306530
Originally it was just the premise of two enemy gods (Radiant and Dire) trapped inside of a prison moon by another god who got tired of their fighting. That moon ends up orbiting the world of Dota, and eventually shards of ore fall down to the planet which have an influencing effect on the people near it causing them to continue the war to destroy the enemy god. Creeps are (or were, I don't know if this is still canon since stuff was retconned) normal people who got wholly transformed into mindless soldiers for one of the factions. Those with sterner stuff, Heroes, I guess are also influenced into the war or have their own reasons for doing so.
That was basically it from what I can remember, but since then they released a lot of comics and did an animated show and some other stuff so I don't really know what the canon is anymore since I didn't keep up with things.
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What character do I play if I'm a stupid retard who's bad at videogames
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>>558307870
Threshbros....
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>>558307904
pick a blue character there are multiple
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>>558296897
This game barely has supports
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>>558307754
POV: you are the BIG BLUE COCK of Abrams and the Paige player is thanking you after the match for carrying her healslut ass
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>>558308175
Shut up dork
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HOOOOOOLY
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>>558307383
>>558308352
I don't care if it's slop it still looks like a marked improvement
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>>558307383
Bro your Silver?
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>>558308352
>>558307383
congrats, now she just looks like a marvel rivals blonde white woman of unoriginality
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it's a shame we share air with these people
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What do you buy against an overfed Pocket?
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>>558308556
Okay how is this an issue
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Lady Geist is blonde but she's just old so all her blonde hair turned white.
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just abandoned a game where my infernus was playing MGSV dashing every 20 seconds while waiting under mid crate room in blue lane on cooldown. Watching the replay now to make sure I wasnt crazy, they killed 2 lane creeps total before I left at 6 minutes.
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>>558308616
Divine barrier, any silence, curse, counterspell if you're good enough to parry affliction
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>>558307148
play a real match you pussy what the fuck are you scared of?
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>>558308880
What do you want me to do with this information?
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>>558306530
>>558307342
Yeah Dota 2 just kinda had the story waaaaay off on the side and ignored for the most part
But given the existence of Deadlock's VNs, I think there's a fairly good chance that it'll be far more story focused
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>>558308554
That's MY Silver you're referring to.
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okay so are all the new characters broken in some way? why does it feel like the new characters have so much more pressure ?
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>>558308970
why is my lane partner in crate room at minute 4 on full health
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>>558306530
>>558307342
>>558308981
People are already way more invested in Deadlock's lore and characters in 2 years than they ever were in 15 years of Dota 2 so I could see Valve giving more lore related content.
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Sometimes I throw my lane against Mina just for the sake of simping for her.
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>>558309086
That's new character syndrome for you, every multiplayer pvp game with characters has it to some extent, new characters will always have flashier kits than old ones
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What would be Anon's gameplay be like?
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>>558309114
I know multiple people that play this game exclusively for the characters and setting, most of them are hero shooter players that outright dropped overwatch and rivals for this game
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>>558309183
being a fat angry retard, abilities include:

projection
rage
latent sissy tendencies (passive)
need for breed
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>>558308981
The problem is they are using the same playbook where the game itself is the climax of the story, the penultimate moment, the final battle while the Maelstrom looms.
However, to cope: Some of the voice lines from the Hidden King and the Archmother in Street Brawl make it sound like this is a protracted war between the patrons instead of one big ritual during the Maelstrom but I don't know if it has any substance since it's probably just throwaway lines that sound good to use between rounds or after the game is over.
The other thing is that so many characters are treating the ritual really casually in their voicelines as if it isn't a world shattering event, but I can't really let that have any credibility either since it's probably just throwing the premise under the bus for the sake of fun writing.
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guys, deadlock fucking sucks. pls come back to /d2g/. it's depressing. We've got a new update coming.. i promise.
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>>558309183
take drifter, make him fat and ugly, and change him from being a vampire to being a pedo, his rival is a chris hansen pedo catcher character (who is just a reskinned venator)
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>>558309086
the last 12 characters are the only real characters in the game with a clearly different design philosophy. If valve was serious they're scrap and remake everyone else but they're way too lazy
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so what kind of fucking animal is rem supposed to be? cat?
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>>558297057
Didn't work.
Hes just a no fun allowed hero.
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>>558309607
an owl
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>>558309507
I was playing a bunch of Dota during the monhun event and I checked out the thread. It was deader than dogshit, it's what happens to every general that has gone on too long. Fully insular, no action.
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>>558309679
im not really seeing it
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>>558309620
Might be a skill issue, bud.
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>>558309507
Is PSG still alive
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>every youtuber says silver is broken
>every silver i’ve gone against has been turbo ass
Feels like I’m taking crazy pills, what do they see in her?
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>>558309743
Saw somebody say he's a little gryphon and I think that tracks.
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i wish graves didn't have auto aim and just had a normal gun
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>>558309959
They're just parroting the opinions of the Night Shift pros who all have Silver derangement syndrome for some reason
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>>558309183
You have to manually spend time mashing a button to jerk off and raise your jerk off meter and when it's full you can jump out and bebop-ult cum on enemies. +30 bullet res while in jerkoff animation. Smell ability that pushes enemies in a 15m radius around him back. One giant arm with strong melee
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this game does NOT need draft because all heroes are perfectly balanced and there is no combination of heroes that is better than another. disagree? well then you're just seeker chuddie sorry!
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>>558309183
1 shitpost
- throws a shitpost projectile, leaves slow shit pile

2 meltie
anon shits his pants, damaging everyone him

3 pedo
- being around graves, mina, and paige gives m/s and spirit bonus

4 powercreep
- anon disables all CC actives for everyone in the game including himself, shits his pants in a line that one shots all female heroes
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>one trick for months
>tired of having 99% red arrows
>methodically play each and every hero until they are a green arrow
>some heroes take 50+ games, doesnt matter, i grind until its green
>eventually have all green arrows except the new heroes and yamato
>eternus 1 average
>boot up deadlock
>undocumented rank adjustments
>still eternus 1 but now all my heroes are double red arrow again except my one trick and 3 random heroes)
>I have to grind every single hero out of double red arrow again
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>>558309968
I wish there was no autoaim period. This update having three heroes with autoaim mechanics (Graves lock-on laser, Celeste rebound shot homing cone, very minute tracking on Rem's shots) has left me wary of what is to come.
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How do I Git Gud on Silver?
I can't seem to get into her ult reliably.
t. Noob
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>>558310424
Land your shots, get headshots, use Decay.
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>>558310424
just pick rem lmao
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>>558309101
>>558308880
he still gets the souls but doesn't need to participate in the lane and gets to farm boxes and statues for more souls and buffs
hes griefing you to setup his game basically
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>>558309959
Shes easily the worst of the new heroes.
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>>558310604
The mid room boxes don't spawn till 10 minutes, if that was really his plan he'd be running the side boxes instead
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>>558309959
It's a coordinated gaslighting operation so that anybody who eats dirt on silver goes to look at their streams for advice
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Silver downplayers will burn in hell for all eternity when they die
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Why is every balance patch just
>a bunch of changes that more or less make sense
>random Bebop readjustments
>Shiv nerf
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Ok, I tried some youtube retard's gun abrams guide which involves buying ammo and reloading items, maxing passive then maxing ult then maxing skewer. Ehh, it's weird but it's alright. The enemies die just fine.
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>>558310604
>>558310604
crate room doesnt spawn crates/statues until 10 minutes, he's just griefing me while I get run down on 2 angles by haze and mina, I shant be entertaining 30 minutes of that until valve fixes mm, give me the bad boy penalty
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>>558309959
What >>558310078 said, it's literally just memetically-perpetuated Silver Derangement Syndrome
She's not that good OR that bad, but they have to look cool by saying the things the pros (unfoundedly) say
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>>558310869
I want more shiv nerfs, mostly for tradition
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>>558310912
>gun abrams
so normal abrams?
>ammo+reloading items
ehhhh you only really need kdash for ammo, better to just buy more damage or defense
>maxing passive and ult first
what the fuck am i reading
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>>558310912
>maxing passive first

that was a thing the earliest days of the alpha.
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Why won't my team stick together
The enemy isn't pushing, we could pool together to take down a walker, but we don't
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>>558311108
>so normal abrams?
Normal abrams is melee abrams
>kdash
The fuck is kdash. The guide I'm talking about says to buy some item that reloads you gun when you use the embedded skill.
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Reminder that zero of your opinions matter and Silver WILL be nerfed next patch.
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>>558311260
they're sharing crayons at enemy heavy minion camp you want some? saved the red one 4 u
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>>558309959
She is fine. Very feast or famine depending on enemy team and how retarded they are. And she sucks fat dicks if you can't aim.

Pros believe she's some kind of turbo op game changing hero but so far no one could prove it during night shifts
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>>558311310
Honestly if that does happen then we’ll know Yoshi only listens to pros for balance patches
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>>558309807
Paris Saint-Germain?
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>>558311310
This, and it will be extremely funny. I will honest to God look forward to another Night Shift that amounts to just one long werewolf humiliation ritual where she's trotted out for loss after loss after loss, because the last one was fucking hilarious
t. Silver lover
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Is there a champion that can just stand really far from combat, headshot creeps, headshot heroes thus dealing good damage while staying out of enemies' range? Like sniper in TF2
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>>558311541
Vindicta is suppposed to be the Sniper but she's the worst hero in the game instead of the best hero in the game
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>>558297057
Fix your build shapes, I can't see 3 items, see picture where I stretched box to show them
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>>558311541
Leaguefags GET OUT
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>just won a 5v6 as melee venator
>bait 3 people into the rape closet
>the all face-check at the same time
>buckshot stun into a blessed heavy
>ECHO SHARD
>BOOM another one
I fucking love this dude
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>>558311664
When is a good time to take b̶a̶r̶o̶n̶ kongor?
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>>558311653
fuck forgot the picture
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>>558311494
>she will get first banned to stop retards from first picking her and feeding
can't wait for another evening of silverkino
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if silver was a dude none of you would care
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>>558311902
What if he was a femboy werewolf?
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>>558311902
we'd be talking about how mina is a slave to his knot
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>>558311902
My enjoyment of her would be greatly diminished, yes. Female werewolf is way rarer, and hotter
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>>558309486
>The problem is they are using the same playbook where the game itself is the climax of the story, the penultimate moment, the final battle while the Maelstrom looms.
Very true
Personally I'm thinking that in the actual story, the ritual is basically a massive war between both sides with all the heroes participating and having picked a side, though in game it's only represented by a 6v6
Or the battle between the Patrons is just a side thing to the real meat and potatoes which is the Maelstrom itself
We also don't know if the Patrons are good on their word
It could be lots of things
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>>558311059
Is Shiv the Irelia of this game?
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>>558311902
You genuinely have no idea what kind of furry homofaggotaidscancer was prevented by Silver being female
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>>558311902
Yes, that's why every hero based game releases more female characters than male. nobody likes males.
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>>558311902
Silver looks like an MtF. She has a manly face
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STILL WAITING PEOPLE
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>>558312035
>bringing up trannies unprompted
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>>558306530
The story in Dota was most told through Artifact, and that flopped super hard. I'm not sure why since it was actually a fun cars game, but my guess was buying and selling digital cards. The story of Dota is cool if ypu know what's going on, but it's not something most people would know. Deadlock will probably have more story content
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>>558309959
It's because she's good in the hands of people who are actually good at the game and can take full advantage of her wider toolkit
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make the new thread about mina hypnosis
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>>558312156
>It's because she's good in the hands of people who are actually good at the game and can take full advantage of her wider toolkit
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>>558312339
A story in six words, kino
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>enemy team pauses for 3 minutes at the start
>end up sweeping us with obvious smurfs
I know something fucky is going on whenever pauselock happens, but I can't explain it
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>>558309959
This got me to check her statlocker stats
>low tower damage
>mid-tier damage dealt
>high damage taken, but also high deaths
Ok so she's a brawler type then, how does she compare to the other ~30k player damage dealth, 7.5 death, 40k damage taken characters though?
>Warden has significantly more player and tower damage
>Abrams has significantly more damage taken, more tower damage too
>Apollo's got significantly more damage dealt, also has 1 more kill on average
The only one she's arguably better than is Billy, since she puts up more damage at fewer deaths
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just got off the phone with yoshi. due to popular demand silver has been replaced with rat king
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>>558312496
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>>558312405
>I know something fucky is going on whenever pauselock happens, but I can't explain it
Most of the time it happens because retards forgot to set lane preference to "party"
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She's basically the protagonist of /dlg/ at this point.
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>when you win but only because the smurf on your team was stronger than the smurf on their team
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>>558312896
>>558312896
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>>558306690
I really do wish the bots were smarter
I'm trying to get my friends into this game and it's so fucking hard to be encouraging when they're fucking choking and struggling against bots
And I can see the bots not really teaching them good habits, like half of them just ignore me when I try to explain the concept of a build or even that they could use build browser
And then 20 minutes into our third game they're like "So how come there's so few items to buy in the shop?"
IDK, I refuse to believe they're being IQ filtered by mobas given the retards that play League, but there's definitely a learning curve to this game and it's definitely proving difficult to break their bad habits, especially when I myself have very little experience with mobas.
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>>558305870
ok valve, rehire this man and blacklist me from the industry
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>>558295696
ok this ship is cute



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