Remodels When Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/01-30-2026-update.102822/post-207811>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>558279738
Surely if I play SIlver enough, she WILL fuck me
fuck rem
Sex with Venator
>>558312939>hfw she goes 0/6 the next night shift but get first picked every time anyways
>>558312939>>558313035Two correct posts in a row
rate her cosplay
That's a nice ult Nina. It would be a shame if someone targeted ypu.with a hyperbeam
Why do people ship all the girls with Mina instead of with each other?
>>558313116MOTHERFUCKIN' LASER
why does seven never get picked in nightshift if he's had a 60% winrate at all ranks for a year? also I have literally never heard anyone complain about him ever
>>558313256this list is archon coded
>don't mind fighting like 80% of the cast>Whenever I see that nigger cunt Paige, that retard Graves, that faggot Apollo, that whore Celeste, that bitch mode Silver or that stupid degenerate Billy I will start swearing like I have an actual medical condition and the game instantly flips a switch in me that makes me mad enough I can't even enjoy when I win>3 of the aforementioned characters I've seen every time I've loaded the game the past week due to them being new characters but it's usually at least 2 of them I'm facing every single fucking time and I can't counter build all of them
Imagine Graves sweaty feet after completing the ritual running around all day in those boots
Mina Ha's vampiric hypnosis!
>win the game because the feeder on the enemy team fed harder than the feeder on your team
>>558313256Drop Silver down to Celeste, drop Apollo down to win with your monitor off and bump McGinnis up to Controversial and this actually kind of checks out
>>558313256Honestly yeah looks about fair to meKelvin doesn't really have any place in the list at all though. He's simple but still basically press no buttons to win, because his buttons don't actually make him win
>>558313035I saw the version where he had his cock out
>>558313397I'm thinking about Abrams' instead.
>>558313345I genuinely feel great disgust when someone playing mcginnis or graves decides they want to split the entire fucking game.
>>558313397This but Paige, especially after her chubby goonette ass just did an urn run
>>558313256I'd personally move Graves up a tier because you at least need to take into consideration her garbage early and weak midNot that it should be difficult to be careful and farm but I'm still surprised at some peopleBut once builds start coming online, yeah she's definitely stupid easy to use
YOOOOOOOOOOOOSHIT WHERE IS MY ALICE HERO???????? I NEED HER NOW NOW NOOOOOOOW!!!
>>558313756>move Graves up a tierMaybe on planet retard where you're from
I'm gonna blow a fucking gasketAnd she's going to get nerfed even more
>>558313256yamato is tankier than you think, switch graves and celeste
>>558313723How are you even meant to play mcginnis? I only played one game but my turrets got instakilled in lane and they were constantly diving me past my team in fights, making barrage useless
>>558313849My poor sad pathetic werewolf wife...
>2/12 haze has the temerity to open up vc and speak some shit i can't hear
Celeste!
>>558313836You sound mad
>>558313898turret build is a meme, do barrage if the enemy is low/dead to kill their guardian
>>558313898Split the enemy with wall and then shoot them.
>>558314005I am because I had to deal with Celeste Paige and Graves last match
>>558308953Surely people don't unironically first-time in actual matches? How self-centered do you have to be to just ruin the game cause you can't be bothered to spend 30 minutes learning how to pilot a hero to the smallest degree?
>>558313256>p*cket, yamato, venny, gay talon that high>dynanigger in balanced>giganerfed kelvin that lowVenator is literally celeste tier broken while also being braindead.
>>558313849How do you fuck up Silver that hard?
Why does doorman call venator cain?Isnt his name quinn?
>>55831410380% of the heroes have nothing in their kit that takes any more learning than "cast their spells in hideout a few times".
>>558313256>Dynamo>Balanced>Wave let's you 1v1 almost any hero in the game by itself>best teamfight ult>Aoe teamwork evade for any delayed effects like seven stun, bebop bomb, or rem sleep>Balanced
>>558314103>nooo you can't play this multiplayer game against other players! You have to play bots!
>>558314293>Rem sleept. doesn't play the game
>>558314204Be an aimlet so you can never get into wolf form or do your main source of burst damage in human form
>>558314216I have a suspicion he was originally going to have a different backstory where he was the biblical Cain who was the son of Adam/Eve and killed his own brother leaving him to be marked and wander the earth.I think somewhere down the line they just decided to make him a regular priest.
>characters with the highest WR are those with the most self agency in a game where you can absolutely positively have 0 trust in your randomsI am absolutely shocked
>>558314112Didn't realize Venator had built in mobility and air control like Celeste, or his bullets automatically went towards other players if you shot at the ground like Celeste
>we're repelling a push>catch!
>>558314326You use it right before thr sleep goes off and it takes 2 full seconds to travel in the invicible ball. Even if it procs it's most of the sleep duration
>>558313849>make a gun character>give her a doorman-tier gun
I think Dota 2 might just be a better moba than Deadlock
>>558314376And then there's paige.
>>558314103Skill issue.
>>558314376Explain why Ivy's winrate is 52% when her best build is as a support.
>>558314481But the gunman's gun is pretty solid if you build for it
It has come to my attention I cannot aim. Who should I pick?
>>558314481Doorman gun was good, Silver sucks ass.
>>558314654CelesteGravesAbrams
>>558314439You can't use it because the windup of sleep disables movement abilities
>Pretty much every single topranked E6 streamer is only playing new heroesI feel like this batch has been a success of character design but a failure of keeping powercreep in check/reasonably restrained. Graves is the only one not being spammed because of how obviously she's been nerfed into irrelevance. Every top rank lobby is nonstop Celeste Apollo Venator Silver and some Rem
>>558314439Rem ult disables movement abilities the whole time he's looking at you, and the sleep starts immediately afterwards with no gap for you to quantum in.
>>558314654Victor RemNutty professorGoo
>>558314654Paige. And I'll call you a kid diddling faggot every time I see you in game
>>558314823It's canon that Paige is attracted to minors
>>558314216Victor's callout for Venator still calls him Rourke. Valve workshopped several names and had the voice actors use whatever they thought they were going to stick with before ultimately going with Venator/Quinn.
>I keep missing my shots with Silver>when her entire thing is being a close quarters shotgunnerYou don't need to aim if you can just shoot them in the chest/back close up, that's what her kit is built around
>>558314938His name is clearly Quin Cain Rourke
Gun doorman fucking nukes what the fuck.
>>558314723>>558314754I swear I've done it but maybe I was on the edge of the aoe because rem was retarded. I guess it doesn't take that much effort to have your allies bait it out, then blink in to save them. Good singularity counter initiation setup too
I literally don't see her anymore in my matches. What happened will she get a buff?
>>558315014If you're impressed just know you're witnessing the super nerfed version of gun Doorman. He used to be way way stronger.
>>558314350If we didn't already have 2 vampires, Cain being literally in the game would be absolute kino.but then reddit atheists would probably seethe over Christianity being literally true.
>>558315014He's actually got some decent hands if you can hit your shots. Spirit Doorman is probably better especially now but it's still fun actually using a gun that isn't just a full auto thing or a shotgun
>>558315072I mean I still am gonna play him spirit/expansion but holy shit one shot does like 600+ damage it's fucking insane. You melt people.
>>558313256Pocket isn't that punishing Lil bro
>>558315072actually my favorite part about that was all the carried gunman faggots that acted like it was always shit
>>558315032Rem has unstoppable during ult.
>>558315115Venator is dealing damage that bypasses all resistances through the power of god. It’s already confirmed.
Literally can't say anything on reddit without being called a pedophile.i swear, that whole site is underage.
>>558312896me when i catch the lash thats been ulting my team
If I make a white calico/wraith skin mod would it get delisted on gamebanana or are they neutral? There is black celeste and graves skins on there so it would only be fair if I made the black character white, right?
>>558315069Your average M1chud doesn't want to play a nigger
>>558315309Immediately, bro. Gamebana is just as cucked as Nexus if not more so to the point where I've read moderator posts basically banning stuff that's banned on Nexus out of solidarity.
>>558315309You should go for it either way. Bimbofy the fuck out of Calico.
Should I stop funmaxxing and try other builds than melee Venator or is it the only good build on him?
>>558315507There's lots of people who would disagree that melee ven is good. But those people have no whimsy.
>>558313256Every character requires some amount of skill to play properly except for M&K, Apollo, and Warden
>>558315309You'd get nuked from orbit immediately >>558315295Why are you on Reddit lilbro
>>558315306Lash x Bebop yaoi..
>>558315179Why would that matter if I'm out of it and warpstoning in after the channel completes? Are you ESL (brown)?
>>558315574>Calling me ESL when you thought you could Dynamo 2 out of Rem ultNigga
>>558313256>all my regularly played characters are "spam buttons to win" or below>and also doorman
>>558315507>>558315546I dont understand melee venatorAre his melee damage numbers very high or what
>>558315507Nah melee ven is fine. Just be sure to go firebombs sometimes instead if the enemy comp is mega-heal-aids.
>>558315675His shotgun blast stuns if you push them into a wall and your tier 3 upgrade makes your next punch blessed
>>558315675Most heavy melee damage of any characterGutshot with the duration upgrade stuns long enough to land a heavyGutshot t3 makes his next heavy blessed
>>558315652>Calling it "2" instead of ability name/description>Game knowledge is an indicator of English>reading comprehension isn't Yep, we got a brown here boys
>>558315675You max your 2 and stuns make your melee do true damage (stake is blessed). Stack lifestrike and crushing fists for big damage.
>>558315675His melee attacks after a shotgun stun are blessed so they deal damage past all resistances
>>558315546His 2 is a stun on walls, and at max level your melee scales with your level, and does true damage. If you get fed enough, a 2 into wall > Heavy Melee can one shot non-tanky builds. Shit, go echo shard and do it twice in a row.
Why does no one play Geist tho? Don't think I've seen a single one in 50 games.
>>558315441>>558315445>>558315559Well that's fucking retarded. Maybe I'll share it here for the fun of it. Hate this double-standard bullshit.
>>558315559They have an app and i'm on my phone a lot.also i get a lotta furry porn from reddit.
>>558314972You don't know what struggle it is to be an aimlet when even a shotgun is a struggle because you undercorrect or overcorrect and always clip them but never hit them unless they're still
>>558315742OH YEAH JUST LET ME TYPE OUTQUANTUM ENTANGLEMENT INSTEAD OF 2Petty little bitch
>>558315309White demoman has been a staple of ages. You'll be fine.
>>558315742See everyone else referring to Venator's Gutshot as "2" itt right now by the way? I don't need to type out "Quantum Entanglement" we both know what I meant when I said "Dynamo 2"
>die after getting put to sleep by rem ult>respawn>go to lane>rem jumps out of nowhere and ults againOh okay. I don't really want Rem nerfed though, I just want whoever picks him to be dragged out into the street and fucking curb stomped. 50% chance you're taking out a pedophile that way too.
>>558315959This is a moba thing. and people are showing their stripes by not understanding that they've always been called by the default hotkeys.
>>558315817she got powercrept out of existence alongside half of the other gen 1 heroes
>>558315069She's boring compared to the other m1 heroes
how do you play mirage. im trying to learn him but i dont understand how to build/play him properly
>>558315886Yes, you should. Or you could say ball, or simply entanglement. Only retards from LoL call abilities shit like Q or 2. Brown 3rd worlders who can't pronounce ability names
>>558315742nigga, i don't even know the names of abilities on my main.. why the fuck would i read anything other than the description once?
Valve needs to add not just more supports to deadlock, but healers too.
>>558316090nah, you're just retarded.
>>558316032In Dota you were openly mocked for calling abilities by their keys, so no it's not a "moba" thing, it's a LoL thing. In the original mod dota there were no standard hot keys for abilities so calling them by their names or effect stuck in dota 2
>>558316090We aren't writing a fucking essay here pal. If somebody says a heroes 2, do you not know which ability they are referring to? You have autism and you should keep it to yourself you cunt.
>>558316090No one agrees with you, you should stop embarrassing yourself.
>>558316039Abrams really is the only one that survived basically unscathed throughout all of Deadlock's run
>>558316080go all in on djinn mark, put quicksilver on it, press 3 when you run out of ammo, press 3 if you have built up mark on enemies and they start running away to kill them offscreen, tornado dash through enemies to immobilize them, roam the map, push objectives if a teamfight starts happening then teleport back to your team with your ult if you successfully kill a walker
>>558316172They just need to buff Kelvin's healing so it's not useless.
>>558316001Even as a rem player I think its stupid how quickly you can have your ult ready again just by driveby pillowing every camp you run past.>>558315817Her only good build requires you to hit headshots and her gun doesn't have a really forgiving firerate/ammo count like all the other good m1s.
>>558315069Nigga I don't see how you could get any more boring than Haze
>>558316080I want to see Drifter fuck Mirage in a full nelson while Nashala watches. Sorry I didn't help you here, but seeing that image stirred those feelings within me.
>>558315817I do
>>558316236Zoomer faggots who have a 20% literacy rate disagreeing with me doesn't embarrass me, I assure you. Not that it matters because you're a thirdy
>>558316220I've been playing dota since 2012.. but sure. whatever you say, hun.
>>558316330meant for>>558316052
>>558316401It's thirdie, not thirdy you retard.
>flooding the enemy lair with spiritjacked/slowing mcginnis turretspoint of no return very often it seemsworks exceedingly well on the defense as well
>>558316497Marty, my beloved.
>>558316220I played dota since warcraft 3. I still remember the old hotkeys for Jakiro Timbersaw Dark Seer Puck etc.There's nothing wrong with calling abilities by their standard dota 2 hotkey if its in a casual online discussion. It's literally just saving key presses and everybody with a brain cell will understand what you mean. Like do I really need to type out shit like Purifying Flames or March of the Machines in this setting?
>>558316497Didn't read. Sex, though.
Can you actually get banned for chat?
>>558316636Just muted. I've gotten 3 so far. Last one was for 4 days.
will we get a report option for pause abuse
wen will valve add a chinese hero to deadlock?
>>558316636>Can you actually get banned forYes, if someone reports you.In fact you can even get permabanned for leaving matches.
>>558316694Right after the smug, evil shota gets added.
>>558316694yeah, sun wukong, as is tradition
>>558316694We already have the oriental rep with Yamato
>>558316549If you actually had been around that long (or read my posts) you would know that what everyone in here is saying to me would be said to people in any dota 2 thread back then, and you can refer to effect. Yes retard it it better to say march or ult than USE HIS 4. Link a single dota cast where they don't use ability names, please
>>558316636there is literally no reason you should ever conduct yourself in a manner where that is even a point of concerncastigating someone for being bad is not going to improve them. tread water as best you can and go down with the ship with grace and learn your lessons and try again
>>558316662That's really surprising to me considering it's a Valve game. I still have a shotgun called niggerblaster in CS and the amount of shit I've spewed over the years in tf2 servers is enough to make a Klansman blush
>>558316776So because dotards said thing in the past it must be true? I am a doard and never gave a single shit. I have played dota 2 since 2012, and dota one since I don't even fucking know. It doesn't fucking matter.Also if you were a dotard you wouldn't have claimed that March of the Machgines is Tinkers 4, it would be his E. Get your autism checked
>>558316850dota 2 clamped down hard too. I didn't play for like 8 years and I came back to a 1300 communication and behavior score. So I'm muted for like the next 300 games.
>>558316850Dota has a full on good boy point system where you lose access to communication if enough people report you.
>>558316776>Link a single dota cast where they don't use ability namesBecause they are speaking that out loud. Holy shit you are thick
>>558316725When will valve add a smug but morally good shota?
>>558316868It's not autism to call you faggots though. You're all brown retards except the people saying migga, they're white broccoli cut virgins
>Be Pocket>Throw out cloak and get in the suitcase>They follow the cloak>I don't teleport to it and get away
>>558317036Pocket is literally Puck
>>558316976I'd bet huge money than I'm whiter than you lol.I'm as pale as a ghost
>>558316920>>558316931Jesus Christ how horrifying
Should I stop bunnymaxxing on Sinclair ? Lost 6 games in a row with that build. I bunnymaxx so much I don't even put a point into Vexing Bolt until I've maxxed everyting else, and I also don't buy Rapid Recharge.
went 1-6 and got placed emissary IV
>>558316931Personally I don't think any mulitplayer game needs text or voice chat. Literally all the info is on your screen and anything that isn't should be covered by a good ping system.
>>558317138How do you do damage? Strictly speaking bunny maxxing is good, but it's only good if your team mates arent goldfish that are always confused when the enemy they are shooting shrinks into a bunny.
>>558316960That’s too obvious and even League's done it. Smug, evil (possibly devil or vampire) shota is the way to go.
>>558317094RIP BRAYY "THE FIEND" WYATT
Is Shiv the most unlikable character ever created in a MOBA?>the AIDS kit>the ugly monkey mug>the shitty Elvis cosplay like anyone even cares about that fag in 2026>"yOU'rE dEaD"
>>558316220>In DotaI don't give a shit what retarded dotaniggers do, this isn't dota
>>558317263Maxxed assistant is pretty good damage, I find Vexing to be quite underwhelming without extra spirit + burst/tankbuster compared to the impact of bunny + greater expansion. I'll try investing a bit more into Vexing Bolt and see if it's worth it.
>>558316786>there is literally no reason you should ever conduct yourself in a manner where that is even a point of concernIt's fun.
>>558317339I still can't believe his last match was a Mountain Dew sponsored gimmick fight
Dota player here, I'm eternus which was an easy feat for a dotachad like myself
>>558317087Post hand>>558317528This is the second moba by a developer, it makes sense to follow the trend. This kind of two step thinking is beyond the zoomer mutt mind unfortunately
you know i know in dota is something behind cosmetics but i wish that whenever you get a tier 4 item your hero would get some subtle effects
does this game have MMR? Today was my first time playing and one of my games had two dudes who went like 30-2 while all of us had like 1 kill total in the end
>>558317453THE BAXTER SOCIETY SAVED MY LIFE
>>558316786I want to tell Paige players to fucking kill themselves for being stupid coddled cunts though, they deserve to know the objective truth about themselves and their character
>>558317630No Hotpoo you're not gonna make my character wear a bunch of stupid gay shit
>>558317635Yes but it's basically nonsense, new players are often getting thrown into games around archon.
>>558317635hit escape, click your steam pfp in the top right, click to the rank tab in the middle, there isnt just mmr but a whole rank system
>>558317635Yeah, click on your avatar in the top right and you can see it. MMR is kind of all over the place right now partially because it's poorly implemented but also because there's a ton of new players and you're new too so it needs to figure you out.
>>558317573I only get Rapid Recharge and Boundless Spirit specifically for bolts, but I max bolt early (after lvl 2 assistant for duration) as I get the 4.8k spirit spike. If you are good at hitting bolts you are a very strong ganker at that point.Max bolt earlier is also really good for split pushing, since its really easy to have an assistant setup in a safe location that also has line of sight to enemy walkers.2-3 max damage double vexxing bolts will kill a walker faster than you think
>>558317635Matchmaking has been pretty shit since late last year, and now there's copious amount of smurfs. Alchemist/Ritualist is where most of the newbies are, but for some reason some people get thrown straight into oracle/archon right off the bat.
>>558317705NTA but I'd like a Kha'Zix or Tiny equivalent where they visually and mechanically change over the course of a match.
>>558317831>Matchmaking has been pretty shit since late last year, and now there's copious amount of smurfsThat's a fault of people making smurfs, not of matchmaking in and of itselfIf they queue they have to end up somewhere
which one sucks out semen better? Geist's hand or Graves' hand/
>>558317629Pay up
I need this game to release so we can get more goonslop
apollo's early game damage is still just too much
>>558317787>catch out a cocky sinclair pushing yellow walker by putting his assistant right next to him instead of on the other side of the walker>he still gets over half the walker before I kill himI'm just glad it's not pre nerf gun sinclair that would do like 300 damage per bullet on a burst fire gun with an additional hyper rapist asssistant against objectives.
>tfw you're dominating lane and get to just walk up and snatch their jungle from them daring those low-health bitches to stop you
>>558317986I mean Geist literally has a succ ability with her green hand
>>558317986Lady Geist sucks it into oathkeeper to buy herself more time, then tongues your urethra for a proper cleanup.
>it's another episode of "your lane partner gets hyper aggressive inbetween waves right as the boxes spawn so they feed and blame you for soulmaxxing"
>>558318008>posts a niggeryellow palm without the restI bet the bottoms of your feet are white too. Doesn't make YOU white
>>558318064>taking the enemy sinner at full health as abrams because you heard the below half health haze miss sleep daggerWatching some cuckold in the doorway as you take the sinners from them is the most gratifying shit in this game.
>>558315817>unique identity as gatling mage that uses health as a resource>actually its just another m1gger nowshes boring as shit now
>>558318030>apollo's ... game damage is still just too muchYeah agreed
>>558318213Why the fuck did you leave lane they were both at 90% they were basically dead!!
>>558316330Invisibility is already inherently more fun than all of Wraith's abilities
>>558318221Absolutely desperate. I already went above and beyond to satisfy your baseless racism.I don't need to prove any more to you. I was trying to help you maybe learn something
>>558318319everytime a hero with an interesting kit ends up being a m1gger i want to die
>>558318356>veil walker is still bugged on calicoIt's insane that the character who's whole deal is she's a master of the shadows she can't go invisible without the game bugging out
>>558316330>Not having fun skulking around the enemy jungle, sleeping someone, and dumping an entire mag into their headFuck's wrong with you?
What are the characters that should be at the top of my ban list? I am thinking either Haze or Victor. Haze because my games drag too long and she ends up gigaraping everyone if farmed too much. Victor because of those reasons and also people can't buy a simple Healbane/Decay/Toxic Bullets early to shut him down for the rest of the game.t. Ritualist/Emissary/Archon.
>>558318349>>558318213I had a retard Seven player like that turn on his mic and beg everyone to report me for "trolling" because I didn't follow him to make le epic play to kill the full health enemy lane when both me and him were at 20% health (something he didn't communicate about wanting to do either)
>>558318481I ban Bebop because fuck Bebop
>>558318481Depends what hero you intend to play.I ban Haze but thats because I spam Sinclair and don't want to ever steal her garbage ulti
>>558318656I regularly play with a friend who goes in on 80% health enemy under guardian because he can't read HP barsOr he'll go in on a "low" (like maybe 40% HP) enemy when he's at 20% expecting magic to occur
>>558318481I ban Victor because he's OP and sometiems he just straight up makes you (or your teammates) unable to effectively play the gameI don't mind most other heroes because they don't effectively nullify certain heroes, but Victor making any close range/melee option useless just blowsWon't be as much of an issue if/when draft becomes a thing tho
>our Abrams ended the match with 16k damage>but the enemy's Billy ended the match with 11kWhat causes this phenomenon
>>558318903Not enough data to respond
>>558318903how about post the results, censor the names and match id if you want but we need to see the actual builds if you want an answer
What was their fucking problem?
How do I play lane as Graves against Bebop without constantly feeding him bomb stacks?
>>558318481>Ritualist/Emissary/Archon.Ban Victor, Haze is a wet blanket if she doesn't get fed in lane and doesn't have the sheer sustain that Victor haa
>>558319127Frederick and Jacinta
>>558318481bebop or another character that always tanks on your team and does well on the other team.
>>558319139You swap lanes, play extremely passively, or feed him stacks. Those are your options when playing into an early game counter.Just like how if a bebop is laning against a dynamo, he's probably leaving lane with only like ten stacks
tfw will never be in silver's wank bank
deadlock official trailerhttps://youtu.be/l8fU3_VMeL8?si=OxLFHymFZ72Advkl&t=37
>doing decent in my lane, going 2/0/1>look at scoreboard>our lash is going 0/10/1
>watching friend's low rank game>enemy bebop grabs his ally silver in lane>puts bomb on her, runs backward, runs forward, then runs backward again>no shooting or dodging or anything>silver, in retaliation, misses all her slam fire shots, rolls forward after him twice, then awkwardly runs backward>all told both of them took about 100 damage total>my faceI forgot how fucking bad people could be lmao
>>558318894>I ban Victor because he's OPJust buy antiheal/curse bro hes not that bad.Inhibitor or Crippling headshot melt him. He's not even tanky enough to survive through multiple cc most of the time.
>>558320152This post reeks.
is lash good or am i trolling by picking him
>>558320285SEEKER GOD... forgive me for dare suggesting you deviate from your left to right build.
>>558319782buckle up
>>558318894>Enemy team has Victor>I'm playing Graves>Build Toxic Bullets and InhibitorTeehee
KEEP YER EYE ON DA BOLL, BOIS EN GERLS
>>558320582im thinking we remove this bloody bitch bastard ult from the game
THE SPIRIT URN IS READY TO BE CLAIMED
Sun Wukong hero when?
>>558320042>play with shitter friends of a friend>go 33/0/9 >they have a terrible time and go back to overwatchI did warn them
>>558320772never. wuxia flying sword guy instead
I'M FULL OF SOULS HERE PEOPLE
>Apollo, Mcginnis and Infernus throw the game for the enemy by trying to backdoor nonstopViscous looks fun though I want to give him a try
Playing this game is miserableSometimes I wonder how dumb these goyim can be
I'm being used as bait, aren't I?
Why does krill have a scandinavian accent?
Victor and Silver aren't a problem its only because the goyim are retarded and refuse to buy counter items
>>558321193Victor is even more funny since he sucks so much during the early/mid game. Even when ahead you can rape gank him and he has very little counterplay besides running away and hoping you let him go back to afk farming.
>>558320834>they have a terrible time and go back to overwatchI fucking wish mine would go back, they just feed all game and bitch about it the entire time but insist on getting into the game regardless (because Deadlock has cool characters and it's the current thing on Twitter), I want to relax and watch YouTube videos on my second monitor not have a guy scream in my ear about how HE CANT DO SHIT because he's 0/16/4 but still thinks he can 1v1 the enemy carry that has 40k souls compared to his 20k souls, I can't go offline to play anymore either because they might look at my match history
>>558321193You're acting like counter to counter items don't exist. You're acting like Silver is so fucking pants on head retard proof that even the counter items don't do enough
>>558321058>Viscous looks funHis kit is kind of weakHis 1 has no charges and a pretty lengthy cooldown but does decent damageHis 2 is really good for healing and avoiding damage, but if you want to target teammates you have to rely on them not being retarded and jumping out of it into the nuke you just tried to save them from and then blaming youHis 3 gets charges but scales off melee and can be parried, so it's better for movement unironicallyHis 4 is pretty situational but can be good for running down people or fucking someone up in a cramped space
>>558321368>Silver is so fucking pants on head retard proofshe is thoughbeit
>their team>A 45k yamato>a 40k lash>a 40k venator>my team>me as Doorman and my ass at 31k 4/7/12 at endgame>my Pocket going 0/14/7>my Billy that's a rando and like 5/5/5 but he's at least a hypeman trying to talk up my Doorman gameplay I don't think I've had a good game this entire weekend
The buffs from the Buddhas and the bridge don’t last forever? What is the point of the super small buffs then?
>>558321412his ult gets good when you get it to tier 3 and can now use abilities and items with it, before that i just mostly use it for escapes
>watch eternus laning guide>"yeah you should just clear camps during laning instead of going for kills"soulless
>>558321412Can you still run urn with Viscous ball?>>558321535Statues and sinners buffs are permanent, runes are strong buffs that last for a short while (you have a timer on display in the lower right) or above an enemy's head.
>>558321535The buddhas last forever, the bridge are like 180 seconds or so, boss
Yes I understand a 55-60% winrate is decentYes I am slowly climbingYes I understand I am the common denominatorYes I understand its a team game BUT If I dont win lane we get turbo curbstomped hitlered and lose by a lot, seldom do I ever ever ever get carried if I have a bad early game.
Its up puritan chuds. Get it before it gets taken down.
>>558321624going for kills is how you end up going 0/6 in lane and creating the enemy team's hypercarry
>Hit Apollo with slowing hex>He just gets to mash parry and either get away anyway or make you waste time on slowing hex and then he gets to start flying around again
>>558321624Honestly if you're below Oracle and just lane with zero jungle you'll probably end with most souls in the entire game.People below Oracle do not lane bro.
so the next patch will be>nuking celeste>killing off melee venator>nerfing silver
Eternus guides be like>Do this very basic thing you already know to do and the rest is macro intuitionWow thank you guide very useful!I hope all of these channels go extinct once the game goes mainstream and they get replaced with something actually worthwhile.
>>558321535The bridge buff is temporary and it's that, a buff for major teamfights/pushesThe Buddhas are permanent
>really enjoy melee venator>give shoulder charge abrams a try>feed, parried, loseWhat should I be building to really pop off?
>>558321695Why would a no tattoos mod be at risk of being taken down?
>>558321640>Can you still run urn with Viscous ball? I don't think any character can do anything with urnI'm pretty sure it disarms and silences you until you either deliver it or drop it
>>558321836Someone's feelings could get hurt.
>>558321412>His 4 is pretty situational but can be good for running down people or fucking someone up in a cramped spaceYeah I was able to trap him and an enemy in dome once and it waa pretty funny seeing them get chain CC'd. The one ob .y team was using the punch for movement and damage and it looked pretty fun
>>558321751>I hope all of these channels go extinct once the game goes mainstream and they get replaced with something actually worthwhile.They'll just be raped and gaped once the big streamers start playing this game, people like Deathy will be rendered homeless
>>558321640>Can you still run urn with Viscous ball?Yes, the urn pickup doesn't silence you for the first half of the channel so you have to ball up before then.
I do not care for the melee in this game
>>558321412>and can be parried, so it's better for movement unironicallythe average person in my rank doesnt know parrying is even a game mechanic
N1H3B
PLAY WITH ME!
>>558321845But you could ball before grabbing it, no?
>>558321878Tranthy is a mossad plant and will survive just to bring the overall value of the community down and so more undesirables can find an enclave where they'll be accepted by their cuckold reddit overlord
Aussie hours inhouseN1H3BN1H3BN1H3B
>>558321694I never understand why every time I win I have to carry the most retarded teammates ever, like people genuinely worse than just getting a Bot with medium diff AIBut I've never been carried EVERNEVER do I get some mf that gives ME an easy winEarlier today I had a game where my lane partner Mokrill left to go run around the jungle instantly, before anything would spawn, and I had to hold our lane and farm soloBy the end of the game we were shitstomping the enemy and had 8k souls on them but the Mokrill was fucking 0/11
>>558322052Maybe you are too heavy to carry. Im in ascendant and I get carries plenty of times.
https://youtu.be/dNbU0gieBgc>Video about Deadlock has almost 300k views in 3 daysYeah this game's gonna be fucking huge when it comes out huh
>>558321058you left out the juicy bits
>>558321695Are there mods that add QoS tattoos?
>>558322291No Deathy there arent
>>558321193Victor and Silver are not close to being the same and Silver has a lot of counters while Victor's counters are few.
why do these mods keep telling me to install in my DEADLOCK folder but my folder is still Project8Staging?
>>558322291Just for that, I'm making Calico and Wraith QOH mods
>>558321776You probably want at least one stamina item, kdash is good both for getting in and for giving you some credible gun threat when meleeing isn't an option.Bullet resist shredder is ok for some bonus shred+hits the 4.8k with sup duration.
>>558321998THE STREETS OF OSAKAS
>>558322330Nigga its the same character. They both walk at you. Just walk away
>>558321695Post a link, faggot
>retarded rem takes our sinners instead of enemy sinners
>>558322260PLEASE ignore the part where I have a crashout even though I know I could've played better everyone constantly throwing out blame made me seethe..
>>558322362No you are not
>be me, the lash>in lane with ivy duo, against graves and goo>buy rebuttal for goo, never tried it before>parry at least half of his goo fists, get heals, never not doing it again>graves gets ult early from free denies, drops it in veil>melee, she's hiding in her tombstone, get parried>dove by her and goo, die>me: "wp">later, on our blue walker>she drops tombstone on roof>parries me AGAIN>escape, live, we win teamfight off of my ult>me: "that won't work twice">graves: "but you got parried again :)">me: "and you died">she tries to do it two more times, i ult her each time out of her tombstone>buy curse for their fed mina, shitstomp both of them>win>tell graves "try participating in fights next time"bros, it's good to be king
>>558322573fuck graves, well done
>>558313256sinclair's difficulty is the most largely overstated thing in this gameit is fake because the hero sucks total dogshit and the real hard part is making him work more than his kit to win
>>558322573Another victory for The Lash.
>>558322473Are the double sinners okay to take?
>>558322704The secret to sinclair is to just cooldown reduce your ult and hope you get Graves or Bebop on the enemy team then you can assrape a single lane with three tombstones because all Graves players are retarded and will let you take their ult.
>>558322473what do I need to do to get lil helpers off of a sinners?
>>558313256Everybody told me Haze was braindead...enemy teams keep telling me to go back to CoD and saying I have 0 skill...
did they do the pink fluorescent bikini mod for celeste yet
>>558322473>take enemy sinners>ours are still up>my whole team is just brooling mid
>>558321695She does look better without the tats, but I don't have a problem with the tats thematically. So meh who cares?
>>558321845Ivy can still carry somebody who has the urn, but her flying speed is capped to the urn holders run speed
>>558322937because many people act like tattoos are the same level as race and sexuality. You weren't born this way, there's no chemical imbalance in your brain, you just want to put ink in your skin
>>558323018Ivy can carry it herself still as well, but same thing. You'll basically make it halfway before losing flight
>>558323031I judge tattoos on a case by case basis. Some are fine, some are trashy.I judge the ones that make the tatooee look like a fucking poser the worst
just got carried hard by inferno
Playing as Dynamo is so stressing, even when I win it feels as if I have to constantly be on the lookout to deploy the black hole at the perfect moment in all teamfights, every time I show up with my ult ready I'm public enemy number one and if I whiff it not only do I piss my team off, the other team takes it as a sign that I'm free pickings. Even playing as a gun/stomp hybrid build and melting someone in seconds everyone on the other team treats me like they're bullying a potential school shooter.
>>558316172>>558316694>into touhouGo back to /jp/ faggots
>>558322791Punch it yourself to steal it from him
>>558323353>Being able to recognize touhouAnon think you'd need to go back too. I only know Yuugi because I blow my load to muscle chicks so often
>>558323289>Rem/Graves lanePol Pot tier lane combo holy shit
>>558323289You will never be a wxman
>>558323353Isn't it funny how ugly people only have ugly friends. Attractive people won't associate with an uggo no matter how nice they are.
>>558323457You don't understand he's gonna post his private collection of men in dresses to own you so hard bro!
People keep complaining about Rem lanes but isnt that just a free Ult advantage lane if he's retarded and feeds his little guys onto his troops
>>558322478truthfully I have no place to judge as whatever language these two are babbling and wraith's broken english would probably drive me crazy
>>558323506>lookism is realwow, i didnt know that, next you will tell me that the sky is blue
>>558323564
>>558323587The sky isn't blue, look at it at night, retard
>>558323353KILL ONEMARRY ONEFUCK ONEGO
>>558323638Kill myself
>>558323353it's the same faggot every single thread.i genuinely do not understand what causes these people to repeatedly post this shit when everyone ignores them.
>>558323880my 'cord profile looks like this
the coomer mods for this game are kinda disappointingeven the mina shit has nice jiggle but I wish it just kept the dress
Playing seven has been so nice recently.its great to have a hero who just has a direct stun, 3+ seconds too in the late gamegood farminghits really hard without any bullshit gimmicksand a strong ultbeen playing too many of the new heroes and going back to seven and just having everything you need feels so good
>>558323963>even the mina shit has nice jiggle but I wish it just kept the dressThat's why I use the schoolgirl mod
sure love every new release being an even bigger powercreeping mess than the last
>apply DOT to Apollo>he can now activate his long range stun whenever he wants
>pick vyper>slither>shoot people>maybe bolait's just that easy
game just crashed with some error about verifying files
My computer runs this game just fine in most cases but the instant I go near a Doorman door my framerate shits itself
>>558324287Checking in
what the fuck is this shit
Deadlock needs mods like this
>"Infernus isn't black, he's half-ixian!">look voice actor>black actor who almost exclusively voices black characters
>>558324497maybe manually delete it then verfy
>>558324497Your ram or ssd is dying
>>558324497you got wirus in your computer sir
>>558324526It's the classic "they aren't black they're [dark-skinned something or other]" cope response
>>558324524am not fatherless nor require ragebaiting to exist so no
>>558324003Are you a new player?After a certain elo everyone just buys debuff remover/counterspell so his stun becomes worthlessStill nice before that
>>558322784>had sinclair on my team that would majestic leap dive the graves, steal her ult midflight and then teleportFunniest shit I had ever seen.
>beebop and seven in a street brawlwelp time to afk, this one won't be fun
>>558324705>playing street brawl aka shit bowl
>>558324770I hate farming and games lasting 40 minutes when the 15th decided whose the winner anyway
>>558324676I almost always buy leap on sinclair. Makes spell fishing so much easier and its also great for stealing enemy sinners and shit. It's also reasonably doable to use an escape since juking for 5 seconds with even a close range assistant swap is very feasible.Very often when I'm just fishing for a spell steal I end up wasting enemy ultimates and shit just to swap back out and dodge it all. Juicy little bonus
>>558324705>>558324820street brawl is fucking ass yo play the weel game
>>558324497Your ram is cooked I'm afraid, that error only pops up when your ram starts to malfunction.Get ready to cough up 300 euros champ.
>>558323289>infernus carry in the big '26
>>558324869why
>>558324614He's Ixian thoughApollo's dialogue with him would make no sense if he were a black guy
>>558324956because it's proper deadlock as opposed to a mindless broolfest
>>558324634yeah but every single person needs to buy them or they get fucked.if 1 guy refuses to buy a counter to it you can just cast it on that one dude and he now needs to run away or stun his entire team (or his team needs to counter spell it when it triggers on them) and if you can put it down after they already blow it then it still fucking them, such a short CD for such a big aoe stun is nuts.its pretty easy to deal with in the mid game, and early game you cannot capitalize on it that much (but its still very nice) but its incredibly annoying late game
>microfreezes your gamenothing personnel kid, it's the wrath of god
>>558325005who said that? You? It's an official mod
>>558325119it's a kiddie pool for marvel rivals/overwatch shitters
>>558325176so it hurts your feefees ok
>>558325004He's half ixian.Now guess what the other half is.
>>558325306Both of his parents are Ixian, retard
>>558325306>halfboth of his parents are from ixia and immigratedhe directly says thisare you retarded and don't understand that two people from ixia makes a full blooded ixian childapollo even implies hes a pureblooded ixian
Nobody's cornered the market or been the first to make an AI art porno visual novel named something like Deadcock for 2.99 or so on Steam. Just saying, there's an untapped market here folks. If you're not first to the "ironic" reviews ypu're last
>>558324871RUNNING MEMORY DIAGNOSTIC NOWHARDWARE PROBLEMS DETECTEDTHIS SHIT WAS BUILT IN DECEMBER
>>558325551do it yourself, fag.
>>558325551AI art isn't real art, I would never spend my money on sloppa.
apollo's damage in the first 10~15 minutes of the game is still way too stupid, with extra spirit and cold front he can already do 500 damage at 4 boons with sigil and two flawless advances and landing 2/3 isn't even a big askwhen people say you have to buy items like slowing hex for him they really mean you have to do it in your first 3200 souls and then he'll probably still eat you 100-0 once he has ult anyway>>558323476thank god for that>>558325695try lowering your ram speed in the bios or worst case scenario turn off xmp/docp and see if you still get memory issues but if you have to turn off xmp you might as well replace it entirely
>>558325695Been there done that, gonna have to send it to warranty and be ram-less for a month I'm afraid, unless it's quicker wherever you're from.
>>558325551You'll just get taken down nigga.
haze players need to be gassed
>>558326057wtf...what'd i do...
https://youtu.be/ZYAPgPH9hsITheme of Venator vs Warden lane.
>>558325065>game is completely fine>enter the approximate area of a mexican (venator player) and drop 20 frames I hate this fucking character why is he broken? And not even in the mechanical wow he's so strong but literally fundementally broken. He breaks the fucking game by existing what causes this
>>558326123Isn't this an Apollo vs Yamato lane?
>>558323936>minaKEKS are 'cordtrannies Ohonononononono, who could have anticipated such a twist of fate!
>>558326321If you mean the theme of two swordmen fighting wouldn't that be the Jetstream Sam fight theme?I posted It Has to be This Way because it's about two people realizing they have a lot in common but are forced by the circumstances to fight each otherm
>>558326102always played by fucking rats, able to stack their fucking passive across the lane, said passive can be stacked on multiple people despite being named fixation
>>558326321Nyohttps://youtu.be/FhHeGZoWl0g?si=xD1TrJg3ed7Wc4uz
>>558326321That would behttps://youtu.be/h-rj8HVW3PQ
I parried the guardian in my lane for the first time today. I felt like a god.
this game can't be played solo, you have to play with a stack because random allies work against you
>>558326567Now wait until you roll when your melee creeps runs up to him.
>>558326653>not lucky enough to get good teammatesskill issue
>>558326653You need a 3 stack minimum to get a guaranteed win after gaining a 30k soul lead
El Botones Sacarino
>>558326794Doorman is bald under his hat btw
>>558326653my friends are shitters so stacking with them just means they die 15 times each and bitch about how hard the game is
>>558326794Señorita Ofelia
mvp
When will we press our claim and carry out our annexation like the US did to South Ixia?
Rem is fun
>>558327137SOVL vs coomershit
>>558327349I NEED to play as her
>>558327349>>558327412ugly, tumblr-tier design
>>558327137el superintendente
>>558327349>LeftAn accurate reflection of modern-day America. Relatable to the everyday experiences of the common gamer. Approachable, with a recognizable silhouette.>RightTrannygazed "Lilith"-coded demonic femininity, woke DEI empowerment that shills a delusional university elite's idea of what womyn should look like.
>>558327349>>558327412beautiful, 4chan-tier design
>>558326505i'm sorry...i'll ask yoshi to rename it...
>>558327349>>558327412Cadence is safe-horny tumblr design and a nu-tieflingIf they make a female ixian character she should at least be athletic and not a fat pig
>REM dies 12 times>blames team because he doesnt get helpdo these people not know the role they're supposed to take? theyre playing a character that is meant to help yet beg for help god i wish overwatch would be even more popular so theyd just stick to that game
>>558327412average, twitter-tier design
>>558327412In the Deadlock universe, the US has a major issue with Ixian grooming gangs. Ixian women come over to our dimension claiming refugee status from the NATO-led UN-sanctioned liberation war against the despotic North Ixian regime. But when they arrive, they aren't good hombres. They don't contribute to the economy. Instead they go to our public spaces and prey on young human boys. These demons are literally stealing the seed of America's future one nursing handjob and leglocked creampie at a time.
>games played: 40>games won: 12Does it get better brehs
WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP SAYING THAT IM NOT HELPING WHEN IM DOUBLE REFRESHER ULTING WITH GRAVES WHILE THEY HAVE A TEAMFIGHT THERE ARE 30 ZOMBIES RUNNING AROUND WHY DO THEY SAY I DONT HELP?
>>558327978No you fuckin idiot you will lose EVERY SINGLE GAME FROM NOW ONdumbfuck.You're DONE.
>>558325815turned off expoPC just turns on and nothing happensGoogle said reset CMOS, don't have a button and don't want to start popping batteries out Looks like I'm headed to microcenter thank god i opted for their warranty on ram
>>558327891I read the first sentence and the last one and that's all I needed to know
>>558328029Apply some debuffs if you want to help you memelord.
>>558328029Are you also putting down double walls?
>>558327891If we lived in the Deadlock universe and there existed Ixian women who are basically Draenei with accent and allIt's over for meI ain't ever coming home
>>558327891Abolish ICE, open the borders between America and Ixia NOW
do the devs ever read the bad matchmaking thread or is it just a fax-machine into a paper shedder setup?
MIRAGE, IT'S YOUR LONG LOST BROTHER, MAYOR MAMDANI
holy evil rape draft
Literally worse than Hitler.
>>558327412Who is breaking the horns of the Ixians is the question, Abrams and Cadence are missing a horn but Apollo still has his and Infernus is a race traitor that hides his horns and tail
dead game
>>558329156Dunno but I hate themThe asymmetry is PISSING ME OFF
>>558329156Sorry, I was pulling on her horns a little hard. I expected them to be more sturdy
who the fuck is the other warden one trick on statlocker
Sex
>Get silver>ult builds up 1 time in 38 minute match>every situation, the enemy just looks at my direction and deletes mecant aim for shit
quarry to settle hero in deadlock when??
>>558329494calico if she crakkka
>>558329494We love our nubian queens here at /dlg/
>>558329494hell naw nigga dey done whitewash the cat
>>558329494jeet
>>558329494HOLY
>>558329617NO WE DONTTT I HATE BLACK WOMENinfernus? he aite tho
>>558329586someone with tiny's ult and a passive that has a chance to reflect bullets back at the attacker (and stun them) would be peak kino
>>558327412Imagine having a thick and tall Ixian wife using her prehensile tail to pull you close or give you sneaky little love squeezes
>>558329340Holy fuck another asymmetry hater schizo. You are just like me, brother. I fucking hate the stupid forced asymmetry where you just break one horn on a horned character.
>>558329402This is fake news, Cadence is cowgirl and amazon position ONLY
>>558321412You can parry this motherfuckers 3rd? Didn't even occur to me.
>>558329695And then she leaves you for chad because women are brutal hypergamous creatures
>>558329560I always knew Silver downplayers were people who think aiming skill is optional.
>>558329728If he is in your enemy lane get rebuttal and make goo boy cry if he is trying to do a melee build, yes it reflects the damage of his punch ability
>>558329745You must suck an awful lot of eggs if you immediately think of her leaving you
>>558329156I broke Abrams' horn using them as handle bars, sorry.
>>558327584>>558327814She's fat because she's an opera singer, that's super soul. Too bad we gonna get some generic woman #16 instead
>>558329823Yes I am eating eggs to ascend, I'm not there yet.Thank you for checking on me
>>558329617No we don't we only love platinum-blonde pale-skinned werewolf women
>>558329156Abrams is low caste cum dump slum dweller. Apollo is high class aristocrat.
>>558329862Fat ixian lady with horned viking helm but the horns are her actual horns poking through the helmet would be too fucking good for this awful piece of shit game.
>>558329745>white man has been here>how can you tell?>bringing up being cucked out of nowhere
>>558329710Is it really that uncommon to hate it?Abrams I'm kinda fine with due to his horns being so small and it fits with him being a close range brawler kind of guy though I still think both being unbroken would look betterBut when they're larger or prettier horns like Cadence has, it just pisses me off
>>558329494>>558329617they need to make her face more attractive and giver her less retarded pants and she'll be great
>>558328384>>558328483im putting down my walls, im activating heroic aura which boosts teammates as welli have mystic slow and suppressor
>>558330241Then just call your teammates faggots
>>558330160The angry eyebrow things on her glasses are a huge fail, can't take this goofy bitch seriously
>>558330160give her better haircut. PAM BAM. Done
>>558330117No but I had an autistic rant about it like a month or two ago and called schizophrenic and took it to heart. I do genuinely think it's a lazy copout for character designs.
>>558330070>one-note, one-time joke>"good"Keep your shit opinions to yourself.
>>558330284i do all the time lmao it just seems to happen fairly often if i decide to dick around with an ult build, if im not within 2 metres of an enemy im apparently not helping
Graves bros...
>>558329710why is archmother so hot
>>558330356Then don't you worry cause I'm standing with you on thatAsymmetrical horns is just horseshit
>>558330472Thanks for the twitter update bro, glad I subscribed to your newsfeed
>play Yamato>Apollo on the enemy team>both me and him get fed>we duel 5 times in the match>in the last teamfight he solo ults me>counterspell it>kill him>win the matchまだまだ修練が足りんな、小僧。
>when the 0-14 Seven tells you that he did more damage than you
deadcock
>>558330902You shouldn't be able to counterspell both the initial tag and the damage. It should definitely just be the first hit.
>>558330986I countered the initial tag, which made winning feel all the more sweeter.
>>558330628It's over...
>>558330902
>get paired in lane with a tranny>immediately fixates in every play I make, doesn't even use Rem to steal sinners, lowest dmg and souls on the team>lose>go to next game>play vs tranny>gets owned so hard in lane that the retard starts following his teammatesHilarious mentally ill retards.
>>558329710>>558330117i agree with you two
>>558330968well did he?
>>558330337surprisingly enough i actually like her haircut (mostly cuz i live in a pretty much white-only country so i never developed attraction for black haircuts), tho they should make her hair more dense so that it looks less like male pattern balding. either that or get rid of it completely and just leave her with the bun
>>558326968
>The big 26Stop saying this
50 cent mod now has a gloat portrait
>>5583316522k26
Cute
>>558331652anno domini 26th of the second millenium
>>558331652hmmmm.... nyo...
>>558331652unc is seething rn
i never got it, why did zoomers start adding "the big" infront of everything?
>enemy team has 4 dc's>3 teammates are farming our own jungleyep
>>558331878general zoomer slang is just downstream of black slang, same reason they call asses gyatts now
>>558331878I don't think zoomers invented the big apple.
>>558329494Yoshi is too racist to add blonde characters
Thoughts on this Vyper redesign idea sirs?
>>558331713Based.
>>558332113where's the bobs why is the face human looking
>>55833184225 year old man with a receding hairline pretending to be a teenager on the Internet.
>>558332113>human facein the trash it goes
>ban bebop>still have to lane against him half of all my fucking games what is even the fucking point of this system
>>558332191And you're a 27 year old baldie pretending you're 50. Relax, anon.
>>558327891"ixian" would probably be the top category on porn sites ngl
>>558332113looks like a dudemanly jaw, manly neck specificallybut the rest is good
>>558327891That's fucked up man. Someone needs to do something about these Ixian sluts snatching up all the young impressionable American boys and teaching them the pleasures of the flesh
>>558332113she should have cloth or something around the lower area of her tail for modesty.
>>558312896I just woke up and my mother tongue is not english so bear with methis is what will happen:>every character will have 3 cosmetic slots, head, clothes and bagpack/accessory >on the main menu you can access a current events cinematics, with new chapters every major patch>saw a speechless cinematic with stylized characters reacting to the coming of the archmother and the hidden king>there is this 60's woman hero with a hairstyle like a crumbling pancake tower, has this circular device like gun that absorbs map props and shoots them as heavy projectiles (map will have more destructible objects like books, vases, lapms and garbage) >there is a sub menu selection on viscus, the only hero that can have different personalities attached to her, changes colors and names, the red one is angry , the white one can use viscus's 4 like a low cooldown ability >there is a toy robot with a human voice that runs around that can charge itself with electricity and can rapidly traverse the map in straight lines in a cloud of plasma>there is a bald old man hero that never open his eyes, a woman with the jaw of a man that drives a mini tank, a red demon like monster that jumps around and only growls and bark. can't remember the rest>there will be a simple unlockable grind like system for each hero, each one having alternative or different weapon, 3 variations and a custom one like in mortal kombat X>there's a basement on each base, with a rune like power up, and a secret passage into the streets, that opens up once the shrines are destroyed>once shrines are destroyed, the team can alternately vote in the basement for a player to be the vessel of their patron, the player gets increased stats and two last lives, once he dies the game is over
>>558332440>Someone needs to do somethingi volunteer myself. if it means sparing the youths from the evil shotahunter demon milfs, im willing to make the sacrifice
>>558327891>A small percent of Ixian women engage in CONSENSUAL relationships with American boys>Moral panicYet when Lady Geist has an entire harem of shotas locked up in the Baroness that she milks dry daily, nobody bats an eye
>>558332662Geist is a PATRIOT. AMERICAN shota sperm belongs in AMERICAN milf wombs. Thank you for your attention to this matter!
>rape my lane>lose the gamemy bad for not knowing how to optimally jerk off denizens for 30 minutes
>>558332498this reads like the bible
>>558332662why does doorman work at her hotel anyway
>>558332791He Likes To Watch
>>558332791much like the daughters of wealthy people who go to do volunteer work in third world slums, doorman got bored of being a god and decided to become a wagie
>>558332662>>558332735Kill yourself weird incel freak
>>558332735Geist is French lol
it's nearly March and these people still have their Christmas lights on
>>558332870>Another clueless libtard defending the Ixian shotagrooming mafiaYou just wait. Once Cadence is released she will have dialogue interactions with Geist talking about cute shota wieners
>>558332662>>558332735keep living normal chad
graves' ult or her entire kit needs significant reworking/tuning. she's not even broken, but refresher on her leads to extremely unfun permanent lane jannying if she is even a little bit decent at movement and can put it in really stupid placesthe amount of pressure she also gets with it in lane with it is even worse. there's been a few games where she'd force tower by 6-8min, then immediately go for walker just because her zombies are still up or she hasn't used it yet, then have a walker down before 12min. when paired with someone like apollo, she just commands an absurd about of space before anyone has access or is buying warp stone.she's never top of the lobby either. she's just slams into a lane and forces someone there for 20+ minutes if she's even a little bit unchecked and the other person is just not allowed to participate in fights.this shit is "how do we break doorman" all over again, except instead of having people get carted out-of-bounds or across the fucking map, it's putting a tombstone on top of yellow crane or in a closet until the enemy gets bored to death and leaves, at which point, free walker/base towers
>>558332981>>558332993
>>558332892>Immigrated to the US in 1776 the day after it was founded>Wholesome chungus small business owner (Baroness Hotel is tax-exempt for providing employment to exactly one demigod)Why, she's as American as apple pie
here is your lane partner
what do i do if i'm graves, the enemy laner is a sinclair and everyone on my team refuses to swap with me
>>558333123Get raped to death from a mile away, that's all you can do
Who does he main and what rank would he have been
>>558333123play the game
I wish I got raped by graves
>>558333059I look like this and main Graves and Mina
Europe only plays Dota, Deadlock, and city builders
>>558333115I had a 0-6 a couple days ago against a Paige and Bebop Luckily I managed to recover and we won but I've never been stomped so hard in lane before
>>558333201bebop, alchemistsome will say venator, but he hated catholics
>shadow weave echo shart crushing fists melee venator
>>558333059Average Graves player.
>>558333201Counting or not counting street brawl?
sounds like you are not at a skill level where losing lane matters in the final match result
Okay?
>>558333296Europe only plays PC games, we don't count foreigners playing sportsball games on consoles as European of course.
>>558333474okay
losing lane doesnt matter
t. eternus 4 or below
>>558333514*eastern europe western europe cod and sportsball console slop is much bigger than PC gaming
>>558333201The big CK would cry about Vindicta and Grey Talon being bullshit characters but never buy knockdown against them
Bola before kick or kick before bola
PUH BAK!!!
losing lane can matter or not matter in any rank
>>558333030nothing personnel
why are we vaguepostinguse the reply functionthis isnt tekken or shadowverse where the game is utterly dead so people just use the general as a chatroom
>>558332113fits her being a hopeless trash nigger but it's kinda missing the "charm" current vyper hasi unironically believe they should just stick to her current scaled gremlin model and upgrade it instead of completely remodeling her
winning lane doesnt matter because someone on your team fed harder to compensate
baby making breeding with Pocket
phantom's a nasty rank. it's like old D4 from league
>>558333030yepthe issue isn't that she's overpowered, it's that she's a bad character. you can be a bad player but as long as you spec into your ult you can generate insane value for your team with no risk or skill involved
>>558333713I've had plenty of games where winning my lane did not matter because my other lanes shit the bed that hard
>>558332498every hero will have slots based on the hero themselves, not a fixed generic amount of cosmetic slotsthere will be a lot of cosmetics and systems involving those cosmetics
>>558333113>1776she's 150 years old, not 250.she immigrated in the 1850s
>>558333823human elo doesnt even feel like it starts until ascendant 6 now every rank below that just feels like oracle
>>558333745I've seen people get up there and break it. Still a good spot nonetheless.
>>558333030enter
ive played 100 hours and im arcanist :) my first moba. is this good
I want to main lady geist but I always feel so weak as herany general tips or video guides you guys can point me to to learn how to play her better?
It really feels like I can carry harder with "supports" and their massive AOE nukes + CC than with M1 heros who basically deal negative damage if you ever fall behind.
>Abrams buying Echo Shard for shoulder chargegod i hate playing on my alt account
>>558333201All this dude did was debate some fucking college students and now he ain't ever gonna rest in piece.Kek poor bastard.
I feel like a lot of the older characters need reworks of varying degrees, the new characters' kits are clearly the result of a slightly different design philosophy, with all of them feeling a lot more complete than the older characters.
>>558334091This is why the game won't be out for years, 80% of the roster needs significant reworks in design, appearance, or both
>>558334091then why are the strongest characters right now all characters who are some of the oldest?
>>558330160I mean I just dislike that she has overlap with WraithIt's not as bad as rivals snowbunnies but it can be tricky to discern the two black women with purple color coding at a glance
>>558332113I mostly like it but I agree with >>558332445 and >>558332361. Also I don't really like her hair being neat, I think she should either have it out wild or have no hair at all.Further I'd say she should have good knives instead of glass shanks, she explicitly says she brought her good stock for the Ritual
>Team-mate gets 1 v 3'd>Cries a little in voice chat>Tell him we got two walkers and a 20k+ soul advantage out of that>He actually chills outProper lad, denied his friend request but Apollo you were the goat.
Friends of humanity hero when?
>>558334170I said "most", not "all".Also the good old characters are characters with fundamentally strong kits or numbers.
>>558332919They'll never understand our pain packmates....
>>558334015i buy that every game on him lol
>>558334225Tsmt I need one more for supernatural racist trio
>>558334091SENDING BEATLES
>>558334306Is it worth going full melee Abrams with Echo shard or are you just better off building a mix of gun/spirit?I like slotting in lifestrike/spirit snatch/torment pulse since I'm aimlet but I doubt its optimal.
>>558334213>get ganked by whole team in lane>*distant explosions*>"We've taken their green walker."No better feeling.
>>558334306>the utterly wasted rem ultWhy are they always doing this lol
>>558334306The best thing about playing Abrams is brutalizing the female characters.
>>558334495may as wellnot like it has a cd
>armor piercing rounds allows you to shoot through kelvin dome>shoot through mcginnis wall>allows you to damage the person vyper ults>you can shoot through paradox wallwhat the fuck is this item
>>558334507Abrams is an equal opportunity rapist, he rapes the males too
>>558334654>goes through ivy stone form>viscous cubeyeah its dumb
>>558333928there's tons of them, most of them don't evenrequire leap/super stam, but this one is on the ceiling and it will push you down if you don't ledge grabthere's other's like it as welli have leap in screen shot, but im just testing places with and without it. i just used the 2nd floor hallway. she can stand up there, use her skulls, zone a fight with hands, and parry behind the headstone, all without needing to be "in the fight" directlyit's stupid>>558333943mcginnis contests and is *present* in lane, and her turrets only hold wave. graves' sometimes doesn't even have to be there to get shove for free.again, she's not "strong". she's just extremely obnoxious, especially with how low the cooldown is on decree without any cdri'd gladly buff anything else she has just to get 10-15 more seconds on it. every three waves is too much
>>558334778Check out the out of bounds rooftops next to the mid lane walkers. Works on both sides of the map.
>>558334213>>558334494>Fighting 4v1>Winning just barely>Glance at other lanes>Pushed all the way to our base, enemy walkers upNo worse feeling
>>558333987Get radiant regeneration early, Oppress lane with bomb, max bomb early and jungle fast to out-econ the enemy, switch to gun later in the game with berserker and spellslinger to delete health bars.Some people say only do trades when you have your 2 available but I can never remember that in game. Some people want me to join their 1v3 just because I have ult but fuck no I'm not trying to die.
>3/22 Infernus tells us to stfu when we ask him to stop suiciding>Says he's doing good damage each time>Postgame>Least damage dealtSeriously just automatically low prio anyone with double digit deaths
How do I climb as Doorman
>>558335168You swap to a carry hero.
>>558334602A lot can happen in 115 seconds
YOU GON CRY, YOU GON BEG
>>558335232b-but if I swap to a carry hero that means I wont be playing Doorman
>>558334213>friend gets permatilted in lane because he's getting poked by a haze from mid bridge>tell him to at least focus on the wave and clear health creeps>gets PTSD and refuses to fight back or move past tower even when we're back at full health>he keeps seething despite not having a big soul deficit>due to being tilted he takes dumb decisions and dies>becomes even more tilted>at one point he just rushes past the wave and the full health billy so try and kill the 20% health haze>dies and says "I'm gonna punch my fucking wall"Honestly it was pretty funny but I wish he would learn the incredible power of stop caring, just look at your farm and objectives and if you're good you're good. This is why laning phase is important in lower ranks, most people don't have the mental to bounce back after a shitty lane even if it objectively went well.
>>558334494>Getting jumped by their whole team>leading them on a wild goose chase>die >look at the map>1 person at base, 2 people slow pushing a wave, 2 people in our jungle
>>558334414i usually get brs + superior duration for 4.8k spirit and otherwise i'd rather build gun, gun is much stronger for him atm. you can purple maxx and build around siphon life its pretty funny you can even reliably proc spirit burn with it >>558333856this is pretty much exactly why i despise her now that she's decidedly weak everyone who still plays her is a drooling retard spamming ults with cd/duration and contributes nothing else to the matchi hate her kit on principle because i dont like when competitive games force in heroes with drastically reduced skill floors made for retarded people and women
Graves shouldve been british.
So what do I do as Silver when Graves pops ult under a walkereven if I dive in I explode like 4 zombies and die instantly
>>558335168Take all sinnersbuild gunget vortex
>>558335168Be a macronigger. Every time people fight just take a walker/defend a walker.Pure macro can get you as far as Phantom
>>558335018dumb as fuckyeah, you can get up there on most heroes from the other side without extra/super stam, but every second chasing that piece of shit deployable on a rooftop is time you're not in a fight, or even taking needless damage from oob hurt zone, yet her dumb bullshit is allowed up there
>Stand directly behind a trooper>Get hooked by Bebop anyway
>>558335386first logical Graves post in 20 threads
>>558334654>gun niggerdy only has two real defensive counters>a 6k for onhit and a 3k for raw bullet damage>APR counters the 6k and not the 3k I don't want to bring it up in the forums because I feel like they'd just buff APR and make it so you can't counter gun at all instead of flipping which item APR counters.
>>558335168put mystic and greater expansion on door, put door 1 down in your escape spot, push walkers, escape into your door (there is no time limit between placing doors)also learn the cart > door method of pushing people into your walkers
>>558335168As soon as you hit 6 you should be able to kill someone, pretty much nobody on the lower ranks will notice if you place a door behind them.
OBJECTIVE truth about kit design
>>558335328This is why I enjoy playing carry, I can get utterly fisted in lane but as long as I play it slow and just focus on farming it doesn't matterNot tilting is super important, I hope this game never adds surrenders. There's always a chance of a comeback usually stop acting like a whiny faggot and play the game.
>people stopped talking about how they made Silver less cute, gave her lgbt eyebrow cuts and took her freckles awayYOU GUYS NEVER EVEN LOVED HER.
Why the fuck is "Yoshi" so bad at balancing this game when he has 20 years of dev experience. Holy shit.
>>558335768Calico's and Victor's current design is literally stat check: the character
>>558335779Holy fuck it is so infuriating playing a carry and having a good lane and then beginning your slow crawl up but the enemy carry got fed 12 kills in lane (not even 1k souls above you in value) and your teammates (who fed the enemy carry) all start crying that we should just let them end.
>>558335768>haze>good kit
>play like shit and feed my ass off>farm my ass off and have a soul lead on most people>play well and get kills>fall behind on souls because i'm not in the ricer mindseti am so fucking dumb
Love how playing most of the characters released more than six months ago feels like playing with one hand tied behind your back, they powercrept this game to shit before beta even kek
>>558335856Wrong, I complained about it on the forums.
>>558335527Icefraud game. See Dota 2 Undying putting Tombstone in hard to reach places.
>>558335454You do not goYou accept that you've forced an ult out of her and that's probably all you'll get without any outside help, and you press the S key
has anyone ever figured out who Yoshi actually is? valve's employee list should be public and they only let experienced devs with some amount of social power in the company take roles that include interacting with the community. We already know the tf2 valve employees are on this so, who is he? Is he Robin? Eric? Kelly?
hello americans
>>558336103Literally the only way to make this game playable if you are in EU or it's hacking russians in every game
>>558335768>Change one abilityYou get Ivy OUT of there and put her in that bottom column right now
>>558336079He's Icefrog from Dota 2 and his real name is known from some court case. He's a brown guy.
>>558335928my friend does this when the enemy team starts killing our patron, he just starts begging in chat for our team to not fight back and just let them have it and he stands in spawn and ragequits the moment the game ends
>>558336156What kind of brown? Indian? Black?
>>558336153i only play on na servers in any online game i refuse to play on the eu servers
>>558336156>they put the dota guy in charge of community interactionsthe tf2 guys really don't want anything to do with the valve community after meet your match jeez
>>558336103I've played in NA a few times now and it was pretty chill. I'd say people powerwanking their region are retarded the only thing that differs from the two are how people act in voice. The gameplay is the same, the macro and micro is the same and valve has pretty decent code for high ping, though it is very noticeable. But it's not like it's unplayable.>>558336209I have a friend who would start pouting and inting every time we played standard. I haven't played with him since street brawl because I don't find street brawl as fun as standard.
>>558335963Yeah?
>>558336228arab
>>558336103I am American and I once got put in a LatAm lobby for some reason and I heard the worst microphones I have heard in my life and both teams just called each other putas the entire game
>>558335963<Haze Voice> Yeah!
>>558336315cute. he should advocate for more arab rep if he's not a pussy
>>558336154No.Ult is good, Stone form is good and Tether is good.Kudzu fucking blows cock and is one of the worst parts of playing Ivy. just does not feel good to use at all.
>>558334602its literally over 3 minutes
>>558336079He could just be some random no-name that Icefrog vouched for that worked on any moba or possibly hero shooter, impossible to know for sure.
>>558336153But if you play at 7-10pm in yurop it's the middle of the day in burgerland which means you're only playing with and against unemployed people.
>>558335768You don't actually play Sinclair. His kit is damn fine
>>558336279the moba guy works on a moba... no fucking way....
>>558336481you don't know how bad european servers are due to russians and slavs
>>558336408Tether is omega clunky. It should prioritize heroes in range by default
>>558336481remember when the playtest had time windows?and you could spoof your window with console commands and be guaranteed games with aussies and kiwis?good times>>558335768im with >>558336548 - sinclair's kit is fantastic. he just needs a new model.
>>558335768whats wrong with paige/ivy
>>558336593It's way overblown and NA has its own share of dirt in their playerpool.
>>558336481I'm unemployed and a useless aimlet though
>>558336103>>558336153>>558336247Illegal immigration is even happening in my Deadlock matches...
>>558336408OUT I SAYIf you play her that much you should be able to recognize its creep controlling strength and its ability to effortlessly clear waves and push lanes from afar, and how fucking valuable that is especially lategame where lane control becomes more important than just collecting a few more soulsAnd that's not even getting into actually using it in fights to hamper enemies and deny areas, especially with Mystic Slow and/or Suppressor. Or using it on Walkers so you can still actually do sizeable damage to them even on a spirit buildOUT
>>558336726>It's way overblownit really isn't due to russoids being sub-humans who play the game completely differently and don't know english
>>558336726It's not overblown nigger, EU is unplayable
>>558336642>and you could spoof your window with console commands and be guaranteed games with aussies and kiwis?As an ausfag I more remember having to play on 300 ping with burgersAnd still winning because there were so many people back then who insisted healing was "bad", I think because they were desperate to make sure people recognize the game wasn't Overwatch
>>558336103Doesn't work. I tried it and the whole lobby still spoke Russian.
>>558336983Brainlet
>>558336707>whats wrong with paigeUlt shouldn't be allowed to be angled to hit people in the air, Knockdown/Root is one of the most braindead things in this game, shield does too much early game when paired with guardian ward. shields need to not be allowed to be stacked and instead prioritize the largest active shield.1 feels clunky and shitty.>Ivysee >>558336408>>558336839I know exactly how Kudzu works, bro. It could one shot everything on the map, doesn't mean it's a fun ability to use or enhances her kits enjoyablity. I don't feel anything whatsoever when I plop a 1 down and nuke the creeps that the enemies were using to push.I just sit there with my finger in my ass waiting to do it again until they either dive me/swap lanes or I run out of Kudzus.it's just not interesting game design.
>>558336947>the people that coped that healing was bad when matches were decided by who had the 200k healing dynamos or kelvinsThat was fucking funny.
why do I always get the fucking haze and wraith who never rat? The enemy haze would have already eaten two walkers by now. And why the enemy team ALWAYS scour the jungle clean when I blink
Are the devs aware of the random mini freezes happening during a game? This shit can happen at the worst possible time.
>>558336726you don't have russians, it's that simple
>>558337162>Randomit's when Venator uses tier 3 shotgun
>Seeing my wife silver fumble the 50k soul lead (we're going to be poor for fucking ever.)
>>558336983>block eu servers>queue in deadlock>get put into non-eu serversit's that shrimple
>>558337162Its the Source Engine special, somehow you could rock a cutting edge rig but you'll hit a micro stutter soon or later.
How do I change the region, sick of EU
>>558337294I did that. The lobbies were still full of Russians like me
>>558337071If only Ivy was as good looking as the fanart Ivyfags post of her
>Europeans moving to the Americas for a better lifeWhat year is it?!
>>558337380The big '26.
>>558335768>mo and krill doesn't need reworksYeah dude getting a 5 minute long stun literally just by standing next to someone is so engaging and cool. Definitely doesn't need an overhaul.
>>558337251I've been getting this before Venator even released.
>>558337417DONT HECKING SAY THAT
>willingly playing with laglol
>>558337417
>>558337514Ivan detected
>>558337071>It could one shot everything on the map, doesn't mean it's a fun ability to use or enhances her kits enjoyablity.>I don't feel anything whatsoever when I plop a 1 down and nuke the creeps that the enemies were using to push.>it's just not interesting game design.I refuse all your notions based solely on these three statementsIt is interesting game design as it gives her a way to scale that isn't just more fighting and more damage or healing or stunning. It helps her with macro, it gives her an evolving place as the game goes on that she doesn't have early.If you don't feel it when you use it you're simply broken and you shouldn't make that everyone's problem. I love influencing and controlling fights with it. I love demolishing creep waves with it. It shouldn't be changed and ruined for everyone else, and she doesn't belong in that tier you put her in.
>>558337380they should fuck off because we're full
>>558337476Does it stop when you reset the game? If so it's a memory leak issue.
na is shit dont come over we're all bad you're gonna lose your matches
>>558337417>>558337484>>558337530I don't get it. Is this a new meme?
>>558337417>guy that's probably got hair loss pretending to be a broccoli head to upset other men who have hair loss
>>558337535>if you don't want to play with permanent lag then you're actually russian yourselfOk faggot, have you tried not being in low priority queue?
>>558316676I got report restricted for 3 days for "abusing the report feature" because I reported people for pause griefing
>>558337630thistrade russians with unemployed zoomers/gen a being mouthbreather's on someone else's time
>bm pause>"noooooo you can't do that! reported! reported! reported!"
the weird part about the russians that come over to play on NA is they always complain about their teammates being americans.what's wrong with these people?
>>558337782I say this, and i mean itGet rekt, always enjoy seeing the notification in dota when bm niggers get banned
I for one, don't want you disgusting EU dogs with horse shit mental on my NA servers.play with your own repugnant kin, we do not want you.
>>558337868haha vpn goes brrr
>>558337851>always enjoy seeing the notification in dota when bm niggers get bannedSame lol, the social credit system in dota caused a lot of seethe for a reason: It did its job
>>558337782>oh someone on my team fucked up, let me just pause to highlight their fuckup>what the fuck why am I banned this system is so broken it's impossible to gain behavior scorethis is not a hypothetical I have literally met somebody who couldn't understand why he was muted and he was pausing to be a cunt several times a game and was genuinely so fucking stupid he couldn't put two and two together
>>558337782my personal favorite is saying"brb, pissing on your corpse" after killing them.
>>558337804that's not evena fucking russian thing it's every euro whether they're eastern euro or normal eurolook at that fucking faggot metrohe was literally calling NA a dogshit region "full of people who don't understand the game at the highest level" type of shit from day one0-5 nigger professing that NA is the worst and he's losing because he has to learn how to play incorrectly to winso why'd you come here faggotget the fuck out of my country
Which character has the best gun in the game?
>>558337380Every year since 1933
>>558337782I once had a pocket completely lose his shit because a bebop teabagged him, just kept begging in all chat for people to report the bebop for toxicity
>>558337939I know a dude that had to literally mute his mic because everybody refused to play anymore low prio games with him.
>Enemy team desperate enough to use five ults to kill me because I'm fed>I kill two of them before going down>My team with 5 ults up won't fight the 5v4 against foes with no ults>Enemies get midboss for free>>>Enemy creeps kill our green walker because EVEN THOUGH NONE OF MY TEAMMATES ARE FIGHTING THEY ARE ALL TOO BUSY JERKING OFF IN THE JUNGLE TO CLEAR THE MASSIVE CREEP WAVEI want executions for these niggers
I still haven't paused yet in this game
>>558337380Lady Geist is literally a French immigrant, just ask her
>>558337645When you suddenly see the same word or phrase being used everywhere assume it's this and you'll be correct most of the time.
>>558338347b-big
>>558337645It's black slang being stolen and appropriated by whiteys, shakes my head not going to lie
I've played on both servers because I queue with a burger friend occasionally, in my experience EU level of play is higher but communication is lower. At least in ascendant. People talk a lot more in NA, mostly about inane shit, but also make more calls on voice. I'm sure a shared language helps. In EU servers people mostly use voice chat to complain or call each other retards.
vindicta is such a good character now they just need to add mccree from overwatch
>>558338212ive seen entire teams get super cocky and forget about objectives when one or two of them get fed. they just roam around looking for teamfights while their walkers or shrines get pounded by creeps.Then they get that teamfight they were looking for, die, then helplessly watch as the team with the 1/24/6 feeder wins.
>>558338432They can never make shit for themselves unless it has to do with rape, child abuse, and murder, tsk tsk
>when you see it
>>558338175Each gun is good for different thingsIf you mean best gun for fulfilling a wide variety of purposes well, I'd say McGinnis
>>558338452Americans love to YAP in games, sometimes it becomes unbearable noise and I have to mute them.
>>558338576https://youtu.be/OuIZZQvySzw
>>55833857618k healing?
Holliday rework when?Unfuck my cowgirl so I can fuck her.
>>558338576Man what the fuck
>>558313035SODOM WILL BURN
>>558313256>Minakek how does she mindbreak you guys so much.
>Play Deadlock>Never talk>Never type>Just ping objectives sometimes>Mute/block anyone who talks, types or pings anything that isn't constructive>Watch Deadlock streamers>Only watch Eternus 6's>Webcam on? Shut stream off>Nonstop talking? Shut stream off>Just want to see some clean top-tier gameplay that's all>Discord? Only for Saturday night gaming with the lads
>>558338953I like to yap in games and do in character RP stuff from time to time. it helps more often than it hurts. Anything that can prevent tilting.
>>558338953based and mental sanity pilled
>>558313256>Viscous>Made irrelevant by being able to press FVyper is literally cripple tier with the AP rounds ult nonsense and don't get me started on the echo shard jar aids gravestone graves build.
>>558338706>gooner porn addict retard sucks at video gameswooooooooooow
>>558337645No i just say it because>we're in the 20's and it's funny abbreviating it because your first instinct is to think 1920>I just added the adjective The Big because I thought about New York (the big apple)It's not that deep, anon. People are freaking out about AAVE or ebonics or whatever but I'm not even American and New York is italian in my eyes.
>>558338706When she doesn't get to spam nonsensical barrels that do 250 damage at 8 minutes.
>>558339291Meanwhile Mina can just take 300 health less than a minute into the fucking game
>braindead charactersApolloBebopCelesteMo&KrillVenatorWardenEveryone else requires at least a modicum of thought
>>558339291I'd gladly take that, I fucking hate her barrels, they're fun but don't fit a cowgirl character at all.
nothing is as rewarding as doorman ulti on the single same enemy player all game long until they fucking break down and totally spiral
WHY DO PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND THAT A DRAFT SYSTEM WOULD BE FUCKING CANCERThe perceived advantage is that your games will be better because kind-of-ass lane comps will happen slightly less, which is fucking retarded, because imbalanced and one-sided lane comps happen all the fucking time in Dota role queue anywayThis same philosophy extends to the broader pick phase, which, again, is a load of fucking shit caused by a delusional memory about how they counterpicked a fucking meepo as earthshaker onceHere's what you fucking lose:First, you lose the ability to play whatever the fuck you want. Want to play Yamato? Sorry, some fucking autistic streamer has decided that Yamato isn't a good pick with your lane partner, and now they're fucking bitching at you all game for not doing something violently fucking autistic and studying how the """pros""" pick heroes 5000 MMR above youSecond, the matchmaker no longer knows how to place youYou know that "relative hero competence" chart? The one that recognizes when you're playing your more favored hero vs picking some random shit you never try? One of the biggest causes of games being lopsided in Dota is when you have a bunch of onetricks playing their favored picks on one team vs a bunch of people picking off-picks on the other team. With the matchmaking system knowing picks ahead of time, it can balance teams according to player competence. If you can't appreciate what a massive fucking boon this is, you're too stupid to be giving any kind of advance on how the pick system would workI am so fucking sick of having to explain this to people and I am deathly fucking afraid that icefrog or yoshi or hot-topic or whoever the fuck will cave to the RETARDED FUCKING DIPSHITS and I'll be stuck having to play Paige every game until the rest of time because some fucking cunt streamer called FunkleDunts has decided that no you can't play the hero you want to play because in his Eternus Sweat Handwank +++ games FUCK YOU
>>558339291>>558339413Just make Holiday (aesthetic) a different character.
So i got invited to the game over the weekend and started out playing alot of ivy. any recommended builds/ generals tips to help improve? finding myself getting steamrolled with melee or other characters just nuking me.
>>558337614I think so, not 100% sure. How do I make sure ? It has to be VRAM because my card is 8gigs.
>>558339448So anyways when's the draft?
>>558339535READ IT AND ABSORB IT YOU FUCKING MONGOLOIDUNLESS YOU WANT TO HAVE STREAMER METAS JAMMED DOWN YOUR COCK LIKE RUSTY BARBED WIRE UNTIL THE END OF TIME
>>558339434I do this to doorman as sinclair
So aesthetics aside, Graves' gameplay is a failure right?>Autoaim M1 that drains the enemy's M1 can't be too strong so the range gets gutted>Charged S1 that creates a cloud of damage-dealers can't be too oppressive so skull synchronization, hp, damage all get nerfed>Ult is just spammed off cooldown in a lane nonstop. Creates boring PvE interactionRight now the only real playstyle she has is a mindless afk-pushing NPC. It's ridiculous. Inb4 they leave her in C-tier for 5 years before doing a full rework
>>558339448Trvke, draft would be ass for exactly the reasons you listed.
How to fix Holliday: barrel gets an expanded radius when shot by Holliday, bounce pad arc changed to be less vertical
>>558339598>JAMMED DOWN YOUR COCK LIKE RUSTY BARBED WIREDon't threaten me with a good time.
>>558339413tnt barrels are a classic western trope though
>>558339365Every single time a mina dares to attempt a love bites proc I hit her with a Puddle punch alt fire splatter combo that goes off in less than a second. She is so annoying but holiday is far more annoying because she's an actual threat to the cumcube of a character that viscous is. Simply due to being equally aggressive in lane while outdamaging him by quite a bit and any good holliday will parry your punches so you can't throw them under your turret or out from theirs.
>>558339448>First, you lose the ability to play whatever the fuck you wantNever had it already>Second, the matchmaker no longer knows how to place youWorks in dotaIf the draft is the same as dota then just first pick if you know what you want. You are just a baby that doesnt want to get counterpicked on your special hero
>>558339507buy defensive greens with spirit resist if you find yourself getting deleted by spirit heroes. learn to parry for melee. as for specific tips for Ivy, I dunno i dont play Ivy.
What if we gave her more barrels but took away her jump pads, so she bounces with the barrels like Demoman
>>558339434First Doorman game I got I saved that shit for any time Silver dove on my team, shit was so funny
>>558339448i don't think we're getting draft mode anyways since we would have gotten it already with all the new heroes just added.they're clearly going for something else with how the current queue system works with hero priorities and the one soft ban slot thing.nobody wants to waste 5 minutes of their life in draft,
>>558339613You have not experienced echoshard jar aids gravestone graves that farms T3 camps with tardstone and buffs her skulls with that bullet resist active item so you can't kill them. Cancer to face.
>>558339457Remove Holliday's 1 and 2 and give it to a new character.Give Holliday new 1 and 2 abilities that actually fit her.>>558339678Trope yes but it shouldn't be the core of her gameplay, she should be a gunslinger, not a barrelflinger.Something like a barrel or tnt should've been her ult in they're insistent on keeping it but her lasso is a lot more fun and better.
>this new character got added and this ability is so fun I can play 1000 more hours of this gameWhat is it?
>>558339931
>>558339678If she was an actual bandito renegade yeah, not for a grumpy little sheriff
They should take the execute off Shiv and put it on Holiday instead.Replace her 3 with a weaker version of the lasso that displaces but doesn't fully kidnap
Painfully obvious none of you niggas have seen a saloon brawl scene
>>558339434Evil
why is this general obsessed with hollidayshe won't get changed, move on
>>558339931Degenerate gambler character with multicast RNG gimmick (works with items).
>>558340057Show the class a scene of a sheriff bouncing around with tnt
Holliday needs to have her jump pad and possibly lasso strippedHer barrel needs to become a bundle of dynamite that's basically a grenade except it works kind of like Doorman's bell and you can shoot it for more damage/bigger rangeLean into the whole sharpshooter thing, give her ult to somebody else, fuck the jump pads altogether, if you want to give her mobility then give her mobility, don't do this looney tunes bullshit
>>558339448The entire reason the matchmaking sucks is because of this bizarre preselect your character systemEvery competitive game has a draft. Get over it.
I've never had a billy not feed relentlessly in lane and then do pretty ok in the mid game somehow.
>>558339879Give the barrels to a Chinese railway worker (the alternative is Sun Wukong and/or cultivation slop, I prefer a creative China rep since one will inevitably be added), give the bounce pads to an acrobat/stunt performer
Remove all of the passives from Vyper's 3 and make her slide distance innate like Celeste's movement is. Give her a new 3 to compensate.
>>558340176Playing billy makes your brain turn off, you pick him and your only desire in the world is to go all in and fight somone no matter the outcome
>someone ingame went to the official discord to report my nameI've had this name for ages so good luck
>>558340298too bad for them that the devs only care about the forumsi get shit all the time because my steam name is george floyd
>>558336408>kudzu blows cockjudging by your mods you blow cockluv me chudzu
I just realized that Vyper's gun is the same as Ivy's just without the stupid crossbow mags that Ivy doesn't even use
>>558340298Do they not know how Valve games work or what?More reasons for Overwatch and Leage kids to shut the fuck up and not post their dogshit opinions
>>558340387I want ivy to blow my cock
>Typical western revenge story protag>But her kit comes from looney toonsGive me an actual gunslinger Ice frog
>>558340078I'll keep lobbying for my sheriff to get fixed and you'll keep seething about it.
>>558340173WrongThe matchmaking sucks because there's a massive influx of new players, but also because the variables that dictate the system need to be tweakedBut the big point is that there are variables that CAN be tweakedAll a draft system will do will be to make good matchmaking an unsolvable problemHave you noticed the little chart in role picking in Dota where it keeps track of your competence in each role?Why the fuck do you think that is?Have you bothered to think about this problem even once in your life or are you just getting your opinions off of Reddit?
>>558340272Because billy players don't realise that the real way to have your revenge when someone focuses you in lane is to rush disarming/slowing depending on the character then silence wave or cursed.If someone has really pissed you off then get both silence wave and curse.
>>558340407I constantly say slurs in chat and the Overkiddies say they'll report me only for other Overkiddies to say "unfortunately Valve doesn't care"
>>558340272Just like actual Billy
>>558340132>>558340192These are all good suggestions and I encourage you to post them on the forum.
>>558340495the massive influx of new players is what forced them to adjust ranks btwpeople with 100+h into the game were getting stuck in Initiate I because they kept getting matched with newbiesand since you need a 65% winrate to climb out of Initiate, it became impossible to get out
Ok but wtf is Mirage's kit
>>558340691Probait M1
look guys they fixed silverhttps://x.com/ssspinkie/status/2025910037273858245
>>5583404491/2 bandit explosives character 3/4 gunslinger sheriff
>>558340132>Her barrel needs to become a bundle of dynamite that's basically a grenade except it works kind of like Doorman's bell and you can shoot it for more damage/bigger rangeIsn't that just the one gunslinger chick from overwatch?
>>558340078vve vvill take your looney toons kit awayyou vvill become a proper gunslinger, yum yum!
>>558340793do you not know how fractions work?
>>558340865yess take the only hard and fun character out of the game i need to m1 !!! there aren't enough m1 chars we need mooooreeee
>>558340682>need 65% winrate to even get into normal ranksAnd this is why it should be based on performance
>>558340803ashe plays much differently than hollidayashe's ult is so powerful it invalidates her entire kitmeanwhile holliday's ult requires coordination and some aiming skill to land
>>558336282I randomly started dropping packets in a game for about a minute last night, had 40% packet loss during a teamfight and I was still able to contribute just fine. Whole thing took place in stop motion, but it was surprisingly not absolutely infuriating.I imagine playing on 100+ ping is totally fine in this game.
>>558340635I called one a nigger and that he should kill himself 3 days ago and I still havent been comms restricted.I swear they dont even know where the report button is in the first place, they're just so buckbroken they try to throw it out like a paper tiger
>>558340495So closeThe matchmaking sucks because the character preselect system was not designed with a large, diverse playerbase in mind
>>558340964It was, and everyone abused the fuck out of it to sandbag their stats.
>>558340901>the only hard and fun character*blocks your path*
>>558340865The only change I agree with is that it should reward you for shooting the barrels mid air some way but why change it to a stick of dynamite? The barrel's just iconic. Like complaining that Abrams uses his book for magic instead of having innate magic.
instead of barrel give holliday a motorcycle with impact damage + knockup so she can lasso someone, motorcycle and jump pad back to her teammotorcycle explodes after landing from jump pad
>>558341056why is a doorman making portals !!!! REMOVE IT RIGHT NOW HE SHOULD ONLY THROW BELLS IT ISN'T REALISTIC
>>558340901Holliday is not hardJumppad+barrel+melee is not hardThe hardest part of Holliday's kit is landing her crackshot, ironically the most m1 part of her kit, the part that you clearly dislike.
>>558340964>>558340682if you are hardstuck in any rank below archon its a skill issuejust pick cadaver man or something
>>558341079Barrels should rain debris down and forward based on its trajectory when shot in mid air
>>558340682>people with 100+h into the game were getting stuck in Initiate I because they kept getting matched with newbiesThat's the story of my Deadlock career, I spent 200 fucking hours in initiate because I have never played a MOBA before, these rank resets have sent me all the way up to emissary. My friend that already was in emissary before the big update meanwhile got sent up to phantom
>>558341117A biker character would be sick as fuck.Make him be Spirit Breaker
>>558341034Yes surely the system will work much better if instead of trying to account for one of the most significant causes of skill variance we just ignore that variable entirely and put everyone into a giant pile while also introducing an entirely new layer of skill variance in the form of a draft
>>558341140holliday is easily the hardest char you are completely useless if you don't know movement/aiming/positioning to perfectionyour escape tool needs you to be better than the enemy since they can also use it just like you
>>558340901Holliday isn't hard, but she is unintuitive. I have almost never seen a Holliday do the jump bomb buttstomp combo, they just roll the bomb out forward, and new players to the character always just assume that's how she's played
I just started playing deadlock today and holy shit what the fuck is even happening in this game?The tutorial is just basic movement shit that anyone who has ever played a video game already knows, and then it just throws you in a match with literally 0 understanding of what anything is.I feel like a 7yr old at an arcade just spamming buttons not knowing what shit does because the game hasn't even given me any fucking time to read what these abilities/items are doing. Can I even pause the bot match?On top of that it feels like the situational awareness required to play this is insane. I can't tell where anyone is half the time, even when they're nearby.I'm scared to play online. Will it eventually start to click and feel slower if I keep at it?
>>558341201THAT sounds like an interesting buff and lets you keep the barrel aesthetic. You should put it on the forums
>>558341415find a friend to play with, I highly recommend itduoing with a new player is the most fun you can have in a moba
Can I get an invite pretty please?776385766
>>558341283It's not that hard to play her as a generic spirit nuker and be reasonably on par with other shitters. Doorman requires map knowledge completely unique to him and Sinclair requires you know all the ultis and their upgrades.
>>558341415Deadlock is a very decision-dense game but you figure it out after a while
>>558341182Hardstuck oracle because I don't play carries or any of the six new characters so I'm at the mercy of matchmakinglock and "Which team has more of the new characters"lock.
How many other characters are like Victor where they reach critical mass and become a problem that requires an entire team to deal with?
>>558341504>map knowledge>putting a door to your walker/baselmfaoalso you need like 200 matches played in total to know all the ultis in the game, sinclair is basic m1 char
>>558341496buy something for 1 dollar
>>558341562wardenabrams
>>558341415Watch youtube guides if you wanna speed up the learning process, and yes you can pause with P at any time.It will click, just focus on getting better at 1 or 2 things at a time and learning what the heros do. You will eat shit for many games though no matter how many bot matches you play to prepare. The bots are fucking retarded and do not teach you good habits against real players
>>558341415Do you have previous MOBA experience
>>558336481When's tyler1 gonna stream deadlock?
>>558341693Probably never, it would be too hard for him
>>558341390I see so many new players picking HollidayIt's really not their fault, everything about her appearance screams "THIS IS A GUN CHARACTER THAT'S ABOUT SHOOTING HER REVOLVER".Only for the new players to utterly fail at her because they got baited by deceptive character design.
>>558341693He's the most obvious Billy one trick
>>558341628Sounds like you made it to the doorman knowledge floor and gave up lil dude
>>558341562Surprisingly not a ton because gun characters can be shutdown by disarm, etc. which leaves us with characters that have strong ults so basically anything from Celeste to No & Skill except No & Skill can lose if his team is braindead since he can't ult the entire enemy team. He's still a problem because if you only have one competent player on your team that No & Skill will do all he can to make sure they do not get to do anything.
>>558341562Haze and Drifter
>>558341693Learning a new MOBA and being a dad don't mix together.
>>558341628>sinclair is basic m1 charYeah sure buddy. So much easier than walking on a jump pad then pushing barrel + melee in the general direction of some fool
>>558338953>watching streamers instead of spectating in-game
>>558341846>late night MoKrill game>top soul counts easily>can delete anyone solo by myself>still lose because team can't do basic macroI saw someone say Mo&Krill is the most useful when he's the lowest ranked player on your team and I agree
>>558341283>holliday is easily the hardest charNo, she isn't.
Bring back paradox wall charges
>>558341846I forgot to add that all these characters are problematic even when you counter them it's just that they don't have to be killed three times if the enemy team has rejuv. Victor's ult should be like tryndamere ult except he dies and revives. At least then you'd just have to silence the low health retard who thought he could just M1 + W his way to victory.
>>558341415Youre just gonna have to play and learn when its safe to push and when to run. Play some bot games to get a feel for your character and the learn the locations of jungle camps/sinners/items. If you feel like you need more practice with a hero try street brawl. low stakes and you get all your abilities from the get go.Nothing will match playing a standard game and just dealing with the bullshit other players throw at you, thats really the only way to effectively learn the flow of the game.
>>558341761I saw this happen in real time with a newfriend, he picked her because cool cowboy only for me to watch his soul fade in real time as he realized her kit sucks
>>558339434This is canon Doorman personality.
>>558341686A bit of dota2, so I at least have some bearings, like I understand the concepts of laning and ganking. The tutorial didn't explain any of that shit of course.I guess I can just chalk it up to the game being in Alpha.I don't see any way to browse the abilities/items other than just joining a game.I do like that the heroes have "builds" already picked out, so I can still level up reasonably without knowing what things are yet. That definitely helps.
>>558339448It's kind of hard to take the game seriously when all we get are random teams, you can kind of see the problem in this patch where they can have a giga broken team comp with the new heros and there's nothing you can do about it.Eitherway I think it's obvious they made it random so they can gather more data, in a real draft mode with a regular ban system you would pretty much never see certain characters and that kind of sucks for an alpha test.
>>558339785Doorman is pretty shit right now, but he does work very well against Silver
>>558339434What's the best way to do this, rush max ult, cooldown, and refresher?
>>558342081Well yeah because he can invalidate someone by rubbing two neurons together which will either relegate them to making no plays and being effectively afk or get them to go ?/10+ because they get tilted from having a mo ult them repeatedly regardless of if they die or not.He's infuriating but even when ahead by 20k souls he's such a joke against 3+ people even punch viscous is a more serious threat but in return he's almost unkillable.
>>558342305>I don't see any way to browse the abilities/items other than just joining a gamepress b in the hideout and it opens up the shop.you can also read what characters do in the "swap hero" segment of the menu.
>>558342305In the safehouse, you can select swap hero in pause menu, hower your mouse over them, and look ath the buttons on the right side of the screen
>>558342425>>558342445oh that's perfect, thanks
>>558339519It happened to me when I had the game installed on an HDD and stopped when I moved it to an SSD.
>>558341415In it's current state it's designed for curious people. You need to go to practice and look through the character abilities and items. You need to watch games to get an idea about what you should be doing etc. It was more obvious when I started though since that was before the hideout.
>buy Knockdown>Seven now gets insta stunned if he uses ultIt really was that easy huh, kind of weird how big the range on that item is.
>>558342305If you have basic dota knowledge you can blast through low ranks simply playing the map which takes very little actual skill.Top priority is push a wave if its nearby as far as you feel safe to do so. Towers in this game die fucking fast, you don't need much of an opening to kill one. Even then dying to kill a walker is a good trade.Just don't get sucked into the endless retard brawl in the mid lane unless you being there will win the fight and get you a walker or mid boss.
>>558342641at low level you can probably just insta win every fight if 2-3 people buy knockdown
Dogshit writing
>>558342316Absolute nightmare team composition.>Graves>Warden>Drifter>Celeste>Victor>RemHad the misfortune to play against this, Drifter and Graves sat in side lines, with Rem buffed winions and the rest of their team roamed as a gank squad and got Drifter fed as shit.
after playing rem so much, every other character feels too slow and heavy
>Win one game>1/10 Haze and 1/5 Warden on my team next game>Lose Uh huh. I'm sure Valve
>>558342795semen demon
>>558342778I meant *Warden sat in side lines
>>558342757>teenager with overly professional and proper parents ends up into a fringe counter culturestandard writing what do you expect of teen characters
The worst part about Apollo and I guess Holiday is it allows bad players to do well.
>>558342305Souls are both EXP and Gold at the same time (you don't level down from spending souls though)Lane creeps are the best source of souls, jungle is relatively mediocreJungle souls are unreliable and literally dropped on death (you can heavy punch the ball players drop to take their dropped souls)Rosh pit is under mid lane, aegis is a team buff with three charges (max one res per player)You get +1 ability point every level (except levels 0 2 4 and 6 which give you the ability to unlock a skill at baseline level)Ability points are spent non-linearly to buff your skills in particular ways (mouseover will tell you more)The shop is cleanly divided into financial tiers (800/1600/3200/6400 souls per tier)Items are very plainly named, item upgrade paths do exist but tend to be a lot more linear and shallowItems are divided into three groups:Orange (gun(right click))Green (movement, durability)Purple (spell (magic), utility (debuffs etc))You get a passive stat bonus for investing money in a given tier (i.e. you get free weapon damage for buying orange items)Big boost at 4800 souls spent on a given tier, mouse over the bars in the bottom left for more detailsNo barracks, just two shrines (kill one to get super creeps in that lane, kill both to get super creeps in mid)No TPs, but ziplines that end where the creeps collideThey get super fast once you kill the enemy T3s in that laneAncient has two layers, second layer can only be shot from up close, does an AoE fuck you, be careful
>>558339448drafttards can't itemizethat's literally itoutside of silver's oppressive lane, graves' oob decrees, and a few tweaks to a couple other heroes, the roster is pretty well balanced right now, and you can buy into a lot of different answers especially with the investment systemyou don't need draft, you need 3-5 heroes you know inside and out on high prio and prio, and you need to learn how to buy the right item at the right time.
>>558342981Oh and WAVE EQUALIBRIUM ISN'T A THING just push that shitAlso the flag creeps drop healing orbsShooting orange orbs is denyingIf you don't shoot the green orbs they'll go to you automatically if you're nearby unless the enemy denies themSouls are divided equally between your lane partner so just shoot whatever
>>558339448draft should be available to 6 stacksotherwise I agree with youthe queue rng is made worse by no draft but at the same time retards need collars. the game would be deeper with draft but it doesnt matter outside of fully coordinated play
>>558343202This is absolutely true, I left it out of the rant but it should definitely be a 6v6 comp mode thingI also think that if you're duo queuing you should be able to prioritize pairs of heroes so that you and your lane partner are more likely to get a pair of heroes you want
Separate queues for stacks and solo when?I just spent an entire game with one guy who was quite competent and two who were fucking dreadful (15k damage on Haze in a 40 minute game type of dreadful).They all kept raging and flaming everyone the entire game but never the two very bad players. Of course turns out they're a stack, the competent guy just plays solo, builds up his mmr a bit, then goes on a loss streak playing with his butt buddies in an inflated rank they don't belong in until they all drop down and repeat the cycle.The matchmaking will never fucking work when you can do this.
The current Abrams meta is almost making me miss the times when Haze was OP.
>>558343480there already is, stacks play against other stacks with solos in between
>>558343480the problem is there isnt enough people to make games just for stacksyoshi has mentioned how teams are the biggest factor complicating balance
>>558342981>>558343083That's very helpful actually, thanks.I don't suppose there's any way to "target" a player? Even a teammate to give them a buff/heal or something? It's sometimes hard to find where they actually are
>>558343667I wonder if I'll ever get good at Doorman.
>>558343480nothing can compare to the pain of being the designated solo player in a 5 stack team, with most or all of them feeding their asses off, I'm talking "there's 3 people on my team with 20 deaths each"
>>558338576I think it's the 4.2k player damage gun sinclair
>>558313170Mina is the bicycle of Deadlock
>>558313170She's the hottest character in the game for every demographic except homosexuals. i.e. Widespread appeal.
>>558343781you mean like quickcast?that's somewhere in keybinds i think
Now that it's the end of thread, I need to tell you all I want to have gay sex with Abrams.
>>558344232For me Silver > Geist > Mina > Ivy > The rest
>>558313170shes a legal mesugaki
>>558339448>WALL OF TEXT THAT EXPLAINS THAT I'M LOW ELO AND MY FIRST MOBA IS DEADLOCKYeah, we know retard.Draft soon.
>>558321695soulless
I still cannot believe people still downplay Apollo. Like brother, he wins almost half the games he's in (49%) and he's in nearly 4/5 matches played (79%).He's definitely a lot better after the changes now, but man.
Mina feels dogshit to play. Probably the most all or nothing character.
>>558339448I don't understand the seething when you can just not play draft modeIts surely gonna be its own seperate que, so stop being a gay little baby.
I want draft because I want to physically see the 12 people that play vyper instalock her.
>>558344472...???a 50% winrate is a good thing you moron
>>558343781Nah just gotta look at 'em as far as I can tell
>abrams is meta now!!!!now??? I swear to god you people just rotate through the same extremely strong heroes whenever you get bored of the last or whenever some streamer tells you what to think. zero original thought in this community
>>558344557It's me, I'm the Vyper player
>>558344620You're misunderstanding what I said. I said that it's incredible that his WR is at that level, while appearing in more matches than any other hero.That's what's impressive about that metric.
>>558344426Dota for 13 years kill yourself>>558344483Dividing the player pool makes matchmaking worse for everyone, and eventually one game mode gains dominanceYou don't end up with different ways to play, you end up with the right way to play and the wrong way to play
Draft wouldn't effect me I play Kelvin
>>558344778>Dota for 13 years kill yourself>Doesn't deny being a low elo shitstainKWAB
>make joke about echo shard melee venator day after he comes out>find out today that people are actually playing it now and it's pretty much his strongest buildfunny
>>558339448Now I agree with you here and also think draft would be bad, but I think a draft mode is going to perpetully be in demand since that's how "pros" play. If it were up to me there would be a mode called "hardcore" or some shit lol with draft, named something that isn't "ranked" but still equally affects rank as the "deadlock" mode
>draft gets added>I still instalock geist because barely anyone plays hernot my problem
>>558344705theres nothing noteworthy about that at all. it just means hes very easy to play
THE PEDOPHILE SENT ME TO FUCKING ISLAND is possibly the funniest callout I have ever heard when the carry in my stack is getting countered by doorman. Screamed during every teamfight.
i roleplay as remi think ive gotten the voice down
>>558345058>>find out today that people are actually playing it now and it's pretty much his strongest buildRitualisttards truly are something special.
>>558345090>how the pros play>implying there are any professional playersthe pro format will be developer enforced as any official tournaments will be run on it and as such practice for the biggest tournaments will be like it.nightfaggots have just invented their own shitty draft mode and the actual competitive format for the game and is not necessarily the format ranked is played on.Take a look at dotaCaptain Mode is the competitive format, you are unable to even find a captains mode game if you try to queue up, ranked in played on "Ranked Draft" which is very different.
>>558345193holy shit that looks just like doorman, did they purposefully make him look like jerma?
>>558345193I don't understand>Be Baroness>Be a hotel>Whole point of hotels is to have guests>Doorman FORCES you to visit the hotel>Then gets mad at you for not leaving within 0.1 secondsWhat's this faggots problem? Geist should fire him for shitting up her customers
idk about draft but they definitely need to let you pick your lanes before the game fucking starts
>play brawl>people STILL don't want to fighthow are you going to HIDE in brawl and at full hp no less. what is there to do other than fight? valve needs to add some pve farming sim mode no one wants to actually engage with the pvp in this game
>>558345385geist is the baroness???
>>558345385>Welcome... Welcome to the Baroness..>You have chosen or been chosen.. to GET FUCKED IN THE ASS.>FUCK YOU VENATOR.. LEAVE THE FUCKING BARONESS NOW!
>>558345321I agree with you man, that's why I put pro in quotes, but the general perception of the average retard is that pros exist and they want to play the same game as their favorite pro. I never played dota but I think a captain's mode option in this game is what I was suggesting, an alternate game mode with a name that doesn't give the impression that it's the default mode (which should always be named "Deadlock")
>>558345441im not gonna dive the enemy team when im playing Grey Talon. im going to float in the back and shoot arrows and owls.
>>558345441>valve needs to add some pve farming sim mode no one wants to actually engage with the pvp in this gameI know a guy who only plays bot lobbies because "this game is too sweaty"
>>558345218yeah i guess the rank 13th player on the leaderboard doesn't count for shit, my bad.
Gun vic feels really fun in testing, kinda want to do it honestly.
>>558345385when does he get mad? all his voicelines are very inviting
>>558345609this post was not about you don't be so insecure
>>558345817glass cannon vic is bonkers with a refresher
>>558333030>Crying about Graves>Crying about Graves running refresher of all things
>>558345758funny.
>>558345894I remember a eternus Paige raping an inhouse with Gun vic memebuild. Tempted to play it legit just because he's cool but I find his kit and meta playstyle boring.
Singularity in this game is even more OP than Black Hole in Dota
>>558345583captains mode has side selection, with one side getting first pick and the other side last pickand it has multiple rounds of picking and banning throughout the pick selectionand all of this is done by a single person who picks all the heroes and bans, with you selecting your hero from the 5 your team draftedpicrel is captains mode draftingthe faggots running their little circle doing draft systems like league of faggots isn't going to be kept when an actual competitive format is implemented, however that looksranked will absolutely also not played on that format as the time it takes to do all of that is way fucking longer and valve + icefrog have shown how important they value minimizing that. they have experiment with a bunch of different modes and settled on preselecting your bans before your queue up, bans are randomly selected from the bans set by the players (50% chance your ban goes through) and if not enough different bans are selected the highest banned heroes are rolled to ban (again 50/50 if they get banned) and it goes down the list until enough bans are filled out, then both teams blind pick 2 heroes, if both teams select the same hero they are banned and the players who picked it have to repick with the other pick revealed, then the heroes selected are revealed, this is repeated, and then repeated again but with only 1 hero selection.I would not be surprised if the current method of picking with some extra changed is the way ranked is played with a completely different competitive format.
I dont want 25min long draft phases I wanna be able to play more than 1 ranked match a day
>>558345217how short are you
>>558346103is it though? the 3d space makes it more unreliable
I watched some tournament Abrams match to see what pro Abrams builds are. It was:Restorative shotRegen for $800Monster roundsExtra staminaBattle vestEnduring speedCounterspellKinetic dashBullet resist shredderClose quarters > point blankTried building it. It's shit. Or I'm shit. Going back to my melee build. Enemies never parry anyway.
>>558346103I feel like every time I see a dynamo hit a singularity nothing happens and nobody cares
>>558321335grow a fucking spine jesus
>>558346572it feels like it cooldown fast enough that it doesnt matter too much if you miss. also if you build charges for his stomp you can still disrupt the enemy team almost as well.
I'm only 60 hours in but I'm already at the point where I dread starting a match and dealing with lane phase
>>558346214That sounds like a strict gun build and not wasting time meleeing. I'm so tired of playing gun abrams.>>558344280>the gay sex with abrams poster posted and there's still not a new thread
>play abrams>don't meleesomething wrong with you
>>558346698>available once every 3 minutes >in a game where characters are slinging fight winning ults every 30 seconds and the game ends in 25 minutes
>posting about the topic>without directly replying like a cowardsomething wrong with you
>>558346892TWO
>>558345758retard
>>558346929>the game ends in 25 minutesI fucking wish, most of my games drag on to be an hour long
>>558317853I want Lady Geist to get older as her health drains.
>>558347084retard
>>558346929Games, even at E6, average 35 minutes now, anon.
>>558345918low elo pedo tranny defending his pedo charactershocker
>>558347176Her critical portrait does so maybe when they start making final models she will
>>558347184dios mio...
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>>558347595>>558347595>>558347595NEW
>>558347182go back, parasocial friendless tranny.
>>558347616>>558347626god dammit
>>558346214Do not ape comp builds.Just stack damage like a retard and get green as needed. Do not buy anything that helps the team as a whole unless it's also helpful to you personally. Protect your mmr, do not build smart. Building smart means you're relying on other players to make use of the shit you bought. Been there, done that.
>>558347787Trying to build smart also leaves you susceptible to over-analysing your enemies when they're acting like idiots.
this thread >>558347616 was made 5 seconds before >>558347626
>>558347743ivy then recycle grifter for the next one.
400 GAMES PLAYEDLANE PARTNER SAYS ITS HIS 5TH GAME EVERWHEN IS ENOUGH ENOUGH YOSHI?
>>558347616cringe>>558347626based
>>558339413>>558339457>Just kill holliday and start over because I HATE barrels for some reasonstop trying to gut my favorite character REE the only ability that needs to be fully changed to something else is crackshot, I only use it for killing creeps faster in lane because I'm a barrel enjoyer
>>558313256>Rem>braindeadAh yes, the character that dies if he's looked at wrong takes no skill.
