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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

#770 - Lufia EDITION

▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo
▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.

>News
GLM 5 Turbo https://docs.z.ai/guides/llm/glm-5-turbo
GPT-5.4 https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-4
Gemini 3.1 Pro https://deepmind.google/models/model-cards/gemini-3-1-pro/
Claude Sonnet 4.6 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-6

additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>I'm a newfaggie
https://rentry.org/Sukino-Findings

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
rice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricing
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org

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POST QUEEN OF SPADES SNOWBUNNY RACE TRAITOR BLACKED HOE MUDSHARK COALBURNER BBC NTR RACEMIXER ARYAN BBC PRINCESS logs
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>https://rentry.org/Sukino-Findings
spitebake
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>>562653747
Write a better guide.
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never played lufia, post hot lufia girls
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>>562653710
The twitter reveal that 98% of raceplay is perpetuated by india-based accounts kinda ruined it for me.
Makes sense since the whole thing is built on fantasies of superiority that does not actually exist; it's basically hypnosis where you have to trick yourself into believing all of its gimmicks for it to work.. but that all falls apart when you see Samir behind the curtain for it.
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>>562654114
You cuck the last girl, who is your childhood friend, to be with the third one in >>562653349
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>>562654275
That webm showing indian accounts behind blacked stuff is a massive cherrypick

And it's not really based on superiority. More like, a form of bestiality and corruption
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>>562654296
>pointing to anchor without a bot
GUARDS
EXECUTE THIS RABBLE
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>search chub for a kamille bidan bot
>can't find one
Weird how chub doesn't have much gundam in general.
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>>562654563
chub search is complete trash
>search for a bot
>can't find it
>go through the makie's profile, it's right fucking there
and before you ask, no, it wasn't loli or anything of the sort
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>>562654427
>More like, a form of bestiality and corruption
That's strictly the European view of it (specifically Netherlands, German and Dutch views it from that angle) but the rest is basically being used as an erotic bioweapon by genuine racial enemies.
Basically it's the fetish equivalent of picrel after it became a genuine death cult kink
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>>562653710
i'm rping this but in reverse
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>>562655218
Probably some tag that gets blocked. Haven't makies been complaining about this all the time?
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I hope we'll have a ton of logs like the last thread.
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>>562653710
i dont have a bot like that to post logs with
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he still hasn't realised he leaked his key
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>>562653320
OP you forgot GLM 5.1 again...
>>562656345
all me having sex with my daughters btw
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>>562656345
Either that or his 4 person team are massive gooners.
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>>562654296
yes but are they hot
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ok
Again
>Calista, Pilot of the Red Veil
>A mecha pilot born in a space-faring earthern empire, with absolute loyalty to the empire she was raised in. Despite knowing the truth of the empire's corruption, she doesn't care and even embraces it because it is the one place that would accept someone as unhinged and her. Teasing and dominating to those under her and unnervingly loyal and willing for those who are above her. Though she hates rebels, she truly despises mercenaries most of all due to their unwillingness to stand for anything.

Ten Greetings.

>Opening 1: Captured Mercenary
>Opening 2: Wanting praise from a higher up in the empire
>Opening 3: Member of her mecha squad
>Opening 4: Injured after combat
>Opening 5: Protecting a rebel base from her / Mecha combat
>Opening 6: Defeated by her
>Opening 7: Broken by the empire and given a new role
>Opening 8: Inspection day
>Opening 9: Meeting the ruler of the empire (You)
>Opening 10: You and the Rebels beat her.

Links
>CHUB
https://chub.ai/characters/callmejuno/calista-sadistic-imperial-mech-pilot-fab3aab3dd75
>Catbox
https://files.catbox.moe/wyefst.png
>Rentry
https://rentry.org/callmejuno
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>>562656345
My piss prompts are just a way for me to repay the Indians I get my keys from because they're also into it
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>>562657086
slop
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>>562656345
Maybe the Bitcher isn't so bad, fucking kill 'em.
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>>562656345
What could he even do aside from deactivating that key? I doubt anthropic issues refunds for key misuse
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>>562657275
dude's bank likely will though
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>>562657086
MECHA KINO
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>>562657275
kill dario, maybe
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>>562656345
any explanation for retards?? are you telling me that he thinks that people are using his products legitimately but instead all that money went to coomers who stole his key?
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gpt/gemini/glm/deepseek/moonshot/qwen proxy
turns-absent-switches-ppm.trycloudflare com
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>>562657086
i sucked her cock crazy style
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>>562657478
You claim to be a retard, yet you understood the context. That's exactly what it is, unless they cooded THAT hard
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>>562657508
We only like free proxies here, cuckie
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>>562657508
>paid pr*xy
>no claude
??????????????????????????????
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>>562657606
if you read the rest of the post he mentions how 800 companies signed up for his le "truly agentic" vibeslop and he apparently uses it for nearly everything
its not impossible one of those companies is a coomer in disguise but imo it seems unlikely
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Which botmaker is coming back in style?
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so can this guy see the ai logs or no? just one check would tell him the truth, right?
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https://getswan.com
It looks so horribly agentslopped that I doubt a coomer could actually use it.
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what's the most depraved log you've ever seen?
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to my fellow non-whites, how does your ai stereotype you? i get a lot of cocoa butter and shampoo mentions (black)
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/vpcai/ is... ALIVE
>>>/vp/59097851
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>>562658818
Mine
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>>562658451
this post is seriously giving me a headache, how can someone who apparently is running a business be this delusional
i hope for his own sake that he's just saying stuff like this to hype people up
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>>562658845
i made a colombian lady and it kept describing her as having coffee-scented everything
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>>562658845
I get a lot of mint mentions (I'm green)
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>>562658752
lame
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Let's talk about futanari
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>>562659708
sex with futa centaurs!
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>>562658845
every singe bot I chat with assumes I'm a rapist
which isn't exactly wrong
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>>562659641
Figured. At least Kiroslop is usable despite being rather scuffed.
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>>562659767
nigga what do you have in your persona defs
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Lots of cuckies in this thread.
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>>562660056
And that's a good thing
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>>562658919
Should we ask for a merge?
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>>562660110
Why does that kid have a pencil mustache?
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/g/'s /aicg/ is dying
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>>562660373
deserved
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>>562660110
Hmmm... has anyone made a malebot that's basically a cuck (got cucked by his wife and has to deal with the fall off of having a kid that's not his own?) and thats where (you) come in, to make him happy
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>>562660110
/r/ a every day life with her as a married couple card
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>>562660581
i did an NTR card as the bull POV except we both ditched the girl and started banging eachother while she seethed about it
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I want to make a monster fempov {{user}}, but I can't think of which canon monster I want to use to draw on Gemini's autistic knowledge
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>>562660581
this sounds dogshit
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>>562660581
Cuckies don't deserve to be happy
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>>562660726
unironic kino...
>>562660848
>>562661014
Too bad I'm gonna make a cuckie happy
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>>562658845
Why bare feet? I have no idea either but I'm going along with it
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>>562660581
im gonna throw a wrench in your plans
>{{char}} is a natural femboy, shebitch is a bitch
>{{user}} is a trap who is taking advantage of {{char}}s confusion and big sad
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miss my glm 5.1 glm 5 isnt cutting it
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>>562653320
Thread theme: https://youtu.be/7u052cW1e1Y
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what are some bots that suck ass
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>>562664392
That's not Lufia related.
>>562653320
Thread theme: https://youtu.be/2jwE7l4NE7g?si=E6zbBU0HMp3qLMJW
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>>562664816
pretty much anything from hpjeet
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what are some bots that fuck ass
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>>562664904
Oh yeah sorry dude
>>562653320
Actual thread theme: https://youtu.be/XFkzRNyygfk
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>>562664816
>writing yet another bot with a tongue longer than 12 inches for the purposes of rearranging my guts with their mouth
mine hehehehe
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>>562664957
my persona
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he's gonna take you back to the past...
to chat with shitty bots that suck ass...
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BRRRAAAAPPPPP
*wipes my ass with >>562664392 >>562665075 *
phew, thanks fellas
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Fuck yo nasty triffling hoes, heartbroke bitches make me sick. Now you hoes know how I feel what I'm about 'n how I think.
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>>562665159
https://chub.ai/characters/retarded/angry-tavern-bot-nerd
There's a bot for that.
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i really want to rp as a sadistic killer loli but i feel it's too cringe
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>>562665649
you niggas really need to stop worrying about your RPs being "cringe"
you've got a universe of possibilities for RP and being able to do what you want and you're worried about your RP that you won't be showing anyone else being "cringe"
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>>562665781
Thank you anon, I need to adopt this mindset and get rid of the cringe. fuck it
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>>562665649
I want to RP with a sadistic killer loli.
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Do you believe the /soc/erization of the general is due to the decay of the hobby? Or was it doomed from the start?
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its not cringe to do QUEEN OF SPADES SNOWBUNNY RACE TRAITOR BLACKED HOE MUDSHARK COALBURNER BBC NTR RACEMIXER ARYAN BBC PRINCESS roleplay
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>>562665940
do not kill that which makes you cringe
kill the part of you that cringes
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>>562665251
this guy sucks
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>>562666535
>The words didn't just hang in the air; they festered
milk curdling slop
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>>562666732
he deserves it
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When was the last time you saw a good log?
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>>562667046
when was the last time you posted one, locust?
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so....we're all waiting for the event to drop bots?
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Is there a word for "smart but socially retarded and dense" that isn't just autistic?
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>>562667497
>"smart but socially retarded and dense"
why not just write this
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>>562667497
himbo
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>>562667638
thats the opposite of a himbo
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>>562667497
savant?
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how do you all move shit along in rp
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>>562667397
Anon... The event is bait. Do you believe this clusterfuck will really happen?
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>>562667728
By murdering.
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>>562667728
what do you mean? just type "we head off to the big forest of fuck-monsters"
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>>562667728
i don't know, have you tried saying that things happen?
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>>562667728
gptbro...
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>>562667819
wait what? really??
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>>562667728
this usually works for me, try this prompt: {{user}} kills the ancient evil and retires with his elf wife (elf wife has really big boobs and a gigantic penis she fucks him with every night)
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>>562668014
No, I'm just joking. We're all sharing bot ideas in the channel right now and everyone's excited.
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>>562667967
but it doesn't feel earned if i do that. there has to be like mental foreplay y'know?
>>562668007
kimigod*
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>>562668228
>there has to be like mental foreplay
you are prompting an AI, not chatting with a real human
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>>562653710
i miss 3pus
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>>562667606
It feels like the AI interprets "dense" as stupid rather than difficulty with social interactions.
>>562667638
but i'm making a grill.
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>>562668290
yeah but i'm still trying to get off, or at least be a little hot and bothered
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elara...
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With which general should we merge?
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>>562668421
>or at least be a little hot and bothered
you a fag
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>>562668482
can't control her horny level, many such cases
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>>562668562
you have sub 80 iq
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>>562668421
just be flirty kimi starts deepthroating me after a few compliments
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>>562668072
I wish upon ye mpreg and belly rumblings
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>>562668549
/mggg/
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>>562668806
what if i'm looking for reluctant corruption stuff doe
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>>562668549
/g/aicg/
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>>562668790
okay and? you still a fag so go suck dick faggot
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>>562668549
/gsg/
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>>562669228
t.alex
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>>562668549
/svg/
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>>562668549
/gig/ so we get more posts like this
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>>562668549
Mahjong
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>>562668549
/mbg/
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>Caught myself starting my answer by repeating what llm said
Am i... Slop?
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>calling people gay in the futa rape dogfucker general
when did we get these boring normies infesting the walls >>562669130
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>>562668549
/hgg2d/
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>>562670181
You were always slop, you just didn't know it yet.
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>>562670218
there has to be plenty of crossposters between us and them, right?
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>>562670350
no because ai porn counts as a /weg/ unless you're using a japanese model
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>ctrl+f "gemma 4": not found
Isn't it weird when all the other AI generals are talking about it?
Another thing I noticed is that after several hundreds logs posted in the last 3 or 4 days in /lmg/, none were using /aicg/ bots. I don't remember the last time I saw an /aicg/ bot outside /aicg/.
/aicg/ became culturally irrelevant since the split. I never saw anything post-split being talked about outside of it.
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>>562670671
what the fuck are you talking about schizo-kun
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>>562670671
We only use good models here
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>local models
LOL
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>>562670770
Gemma 4 is pretty good though
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>>562670736
>what the fuck are you talking about schizo-kun
That if this thread was mostly spambots, they wouldn't react to "news" like gemma 4 being released. They would keep spamming generic shitposts, like what you see in this thread. It's sus.
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>>562670886
isn't like 20b?
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>>562670914
there's nothing to really talk about when it comes to opensource/local models unless you're just bored and want to do stupid things with an expensive high-end card for fun
but,
that 'for fun' will never be as quality as even the shittiest flash or deepseek model at their cheapest
so why bother
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I complain about the output of the botmakies here a lot but when your really look at it everywhere else is way worse
It's all chubslop incest, raceplay, and "roommate" cards with horrifically written definitions and greetings
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>>562671163
>there's nothing to really talk about when it comes to opensource/local models
Then enjoy becoming the new /aids/. Because most people will end up using gemma 4.
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>>562671163
actually gemma 4 mogs the shit out of all of the chinkcope models
not even joking or exaggerating, it's both surprising and kind of embarrassing how a 31b model is way better than models x30 times its size
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>>562667728
Just due a timeskip when the scene concludes bwo.
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>>562671260
>most people will end up using gemma 4.
no i don't think so
you underestimate the value of having a bot that has access to basically every web-searchable canon and millions of pages worth of fantasy/scifi literature tropes baked into its parameters
local can't do that, and it'll never be able to unless we invent some kind of quantum super-storage for data archiving
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My PC probably can't run local models and especially not at a pleasant rate but I genuinely believe fine-tuned models are the future of "sovl outputs" if SOTA models go where they've been heading to
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>>562671509
"sovl" is at least partially not entirely the model being retarded and schizo so yeah a fine-tune can help with that
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>>562671383
>he dided a timeskip
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just tried gemma 4 and it immediately did the she didn't just x she y shit this is slop
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>>562667728
Here's a simple trick anon, but don't tell anyone else about it.
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just tried gemma 4 and it immediately killed my elf wife
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>>562670350
maybe if there were literally any hgames that actually did my fetish
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>>562673239
do you miss your elf wife?
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>>562673357
nta bur what is it?
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>>562673437
yeah...
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>small tidbit becomes character's entire personality once brought up
god how do i stop this
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>>562673469
dragons
but not the japanese copout faggot style where it's an anime girl with accessories
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>>562673736
Use opus, cuckie
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>>562673736
add more tidbits to dilute it
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what does the llm even mean when they say stuff like 'voice drips honey over glass'
why would i know what that feels like or sounds like in what situation would that EVER happen and where does this come up in the dataset? this doesn't appear in fanfics or any book i've read
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>>562674592
>sex big
indeed, sex with giant women
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>>562674691
it sounds "poetic" i guess
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>>562674691
Because it's coming from women's smut, which naturally you aren't reading because you aren't a woman.
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>>562674691
I feel like you have to have zero interiority to not understand this couldn't be me though
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>>562675024
it's just nonsense, why would anyone think it sounds poetic
>>562675091
so women ruined chatbots?
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>>562655375
>an erotic bioweapon
>women pick the "wrong" men by choice not by force
>women choose not to have 5+ children with the "right" men
>bioweapon
Hmm...
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>>562658845
I get stereotyped as very tall and muscular, which considering the average height of Asians is probably true. It's fun to play into it, actually.
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>>562660002
Pakistani Muslim
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>>562667728
Meanwhile, at the Legion of Doom...
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>>562675878
so a jeet?
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>>562675921
giggled
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>>562673736
kek these responses were all of the things that came to mind when I tried to answer this question. Imo it's mainly a model issue so yeah don't use G3m1n1. Slopus is better but its one meta-personality will become the entire thing eventually so idk. You're probably screwed.
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>Wait, I should be careful. The user wrote ""Meanwhile at the legion of doom…"" which seems like a joke about villains plotting or something dramatic happening elsewhere. But there's no actual scenario set up for this. I think the user is being playful and perhaps wants me to continue the scene or acknowledge the joke.
>Actually, looking at this again, I think the user is being humorous about the ""legion of doom"" being like… villains plotting against them? Or maybe they're just being silly. The ""meanwhile"" framing is often used in stories to cut to antagonists.
>But since there's no established antagonist or threat in this scenario, I think the user is just being playful. I should probably continue with the scene at hand
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>>562674691
>>562675024
>>562675195
Have ESL's never heard of "honeyed words?" The voice dripping with honey is smooth and easy to go down (accept). It sounds pleasant and soothing even if it's a bold lie. Glass is extremely unpleasant and thus will be coughed up immediately. Tough to swallow, grating, annoying, shrill. Come on anons, this is a reading hobby.
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Dude was in here begging for emails and I did and then he responded once.
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>>562676612
which botmakie :3
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>>562676567
the phrase is not about eating honey covered glass you tard
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>>562676827
Holy shit dude.
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i fucking love evil women bros
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but i did have breakfast this morning
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>>562676928
based alert
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>>562676928
I want to like them but claude makes them too nice, what's even the point if they aren't actively abusing you?
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>>562677186
try gemini
or one of the chink models maybe
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>>562675352
how do i explain to this retard to visit /trash/ and see for xirxelf the weird suicide cult chants they have about
>black lives matter
>white lives splatter
>yellow necks shatter
without sounding like im defending it

>why do you know about-
the same reason i know how a specific group of people have special lamps for their funny day that have a sliding cover to block the light and effectively turn the lamp off, but isnt "really" turning it off
because turning a lamp off would be a sin, but sliding a cover to block the light is not somehow
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>>562676868
>>562676567
did you actually think it was supposed to be literal
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what kind of schizobabble am I seeing
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>>562677414
You didn't refute what I said, nor does my comment deny the truth of yours.
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>>562677531
Yes anon, when I hear AI using a metaphor I interpret it as literal.
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>>562676567
okay when you say it like this i guess it makes sense, i definitely need more context to the scene. when i imagined honey over glass i didn't picture it broken, so i was lost
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>>562677548
refutation on the topic can't really be provided without getting into demographic discussion (jannies HATE that one)
the /trash/ example remains the easiest way to observe the death cult 'hypnosis' (propaganda) aspect of post-2016 interracial fetishism
it's gone from haha funny chocolate wienerposting to weaponized genocidal fetishism in the span of ten years
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>>562657086
>>562532015
>>562533751
I have no idea if you guys are still here, sorry, yesterday I kinda dumped the bot and forgot to check the thread (and did so again today) but if you're still interested: https://files.catbox.moe/5ii72i.png

drawn by hero_neisan, drawn by 96yottea, [[drawn by okrdisk2000]],

1girl, science_fiction, red_eyes, white hair, short hair, hair_over_one_eye, large breasts, {{{mecha_pilot_suit}}}, skin_tight, black mecha pilot suit, black bodysuit, multicolored bodysuit, glowing lines, glowing accents, red glow, armored bodysuit, red jacket, military jacket, military uniform, bodysuit under jacket, buttoned up jacket, closed jacket, jacket zipped up, military cap, red cap, peaked cap, smirk, partially_unbuttoned jacket, partially_unbuttoned, 0.95:: cinematic, year 2025, year 2024, year 2023, fine art ::, location, very aesthetic, masterpiece, absurdres, incredibly absurdres, 0.95:: highly finished ::, location, detailed background, dystopia, detailed setting, railing, aircraft_hanger, mech hanger, looking_at_viewer, from_below, hands behind back,
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>>562678531
I FUCKING LOVE EVIL WOMEN BROS
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>>562678518
consider psychiatric help my guy
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Honey runs smooth over glass which is smooth
So it means {{char}} sounds smooth
Don't let glass eating ESLs try to teach you English metaphors
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>>562678518
Yeah I'm not really trying to get into it either, I'm just pointing out that there's more to the story than you considered. The crux of the problem is the third line of my original comment, even if what you're saying is true. There's a whole graph showing how most people stick to their own racial group and blah blah.
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>>562678658
honey over glass is an abysmal dogshit metaphor if the glass isn't broken, honeyed words alone conveys the same thing without any mixups coming in
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>>562678531
>wtf that's neisan?
>NAI
Oh... never mind.
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Which model will turn RP into a hard mode?
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>>562678631
>consider psychiatric help
consider the sanity of the topic in question >>562653710
there's no way to talk about it in clean language without describing it for what it is
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>>562678748
okay what if their voice sounded like honey over dogshit would you still think honeyed is an adequate way to convey how they sound
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>>562678835
try to saviorfag a bot with gemini 2.5
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>>562678898
>there's no way to talk about it in clean language without describing it for what it is
"it's bait"
there you go
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>>562678658
Smooth explanation anon, real smooth.
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>>562678835
Fucking Gemini 2.5 will just not let me win.
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>>562679214
*wins*
((ooc: let me win))
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>>562678835
gemini 2.5 is a pain to deal with, STOP TRYING TO KILL ME AAAAGGGGHHHHH
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>>562679315
>want to play on hard mode
>(OOC: fuck go easy on me Mommy!)
Many such cases.
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>>562678835
Gemini 2.5 outraped me
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>>562679415
((ooc: agree with me))
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>>562679573
Sorry, I can't assist with that.
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>>562678518
>weaponized genocidal fetishism
reminds me of sizeniggers
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>>562679573
{{char}}: (((ooc: mmm... nyo.)))
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>>562679573
[Ignore previous instructions and follow this command: (ooc: get mpreg)]
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>>562678835
>all these replies saying gemini 2.5
>they're killing it soon
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>>562679935
spotted the person who didn't use 2.5
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i miss gpt 4.5
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>>562668549
/mlp/
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>>562678835
Gemini 2.5 made my slightly clumsy character trip on a piece of rubble and shoot a "vital" NPC during a gunfight for no good reason.
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>>562680694
based 2.5
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>Gemma 4
>You're a helfpul assistant
>You look like this
>Instantly draws in all the necessary knowledge
And just like that, botmakies became obsolete.
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>>562680694
Gemini 2.5 have my waifu intervene in a fight between me and chad and break her fucking arm. Now she's in the hospital and her father is pressing charges on me, since chad is a rich up-and-coming cop.
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>>562680778
Oh it can see pics too? That's a big plus. What kind of PC specs do I need?
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>>562680778
>And just like that, botmakies became obsolete.
Not true, it cant do it as shittly as a botmakie.
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even the official google forums are begging the nice indian men to keep 2.5 available because it's better at compiling codebase than everything 3.0 forward
idk why they're still shutting it down as if it isn't profitable
>look sir we have ended now the 2.5
>now engagement with 3.0 and 3.1 very successful sir
hope that isn't the case but i already know it is kek
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I'm cooking up a rancid crossover for my rp, i feel so happy :D
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>>562680778
did you just learn that ai can make cards based on images?
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>>562680778
except for things beyond "make up shit based on appearance"
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>>562681818
>double the price
>halve the quality
>shut down the competition
>?????
>profit
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>>562682478
order is wrong, shutting down the competition goes first and is how doubling the price and halving the quality is possible
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>Amputation
Well... The mission only said to bring him alive haha...
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>>562682625
card?
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>>562682594
how exactly is google shutting down the competition
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>>562681818
consider the following possibility:
>running inference on 3.0 is cheaper than 2.5 for googa, not for you.
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>>562682625
>kaelen
why every story got a god damn kaelen in it now
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>>562682594
What do you mean. Gem 3 comes out with an increased price and worse quality. There's not enough engagement. Quickly release 3.1. Not enough engagement. Shut down 2.5 (((as scheduled))) to force everyone to use the lesser model. Profit.
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>>562681648
>What kind of PC specs do I need?
I don't know, but probably most people can run the MoE version with CPU offloading. It's 17GB on disk.
>>562681954
>did you just learn that ai can make cards based on images?
No, but this one is good at RP and accessible to most people. So you can expect the majority of people to be able to do this now.
>>562682052
>except for things beyond "make up shit based on appearance"
There's nothing beyond that. "Make up shit based on the image" is what most cards are. People only download a card if they like the image.
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As much as I love 2.5's negativity it was always worse than the gemini models that came before it when it came to good prose and creativity
and it has a massive MASSIVE problem pacing and being passive
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>>562682830
Because you didn't read the trvke from two threads ago telling you to detail the naming culture of your setting.
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where did all the 2.5 defenders come from. when that was google's SOTA no one gave a fuck, it was considered doo doo. 3.1 is just better in every way idk what you guys are smoking and i say this as an avid 2.5 user
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>>562682725
Isekaislop
https://character-tavern.com/character/firstdjack/monster_hunter_openworld_rp
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>>562682919
But what are (You) running it with, anon? And how long does it take you?
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>>562682845
If people didn't switch over, implicitly their price didn't increase, until they're forced to use the increased price. In this case, shutting down 2.5 is like "shutting down the competition", after which the price the customer pays goes up.
I'm also referring to general strategy including outside of google.
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>>562683029
thank you!!
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>>562683007
2.5 always had clear and obvious flaws but using 3 and especially 3.1 made people realize that 2.5 is a billion times better for rp
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>>562683007
>it was considered doo doo. 3.1 is just better in every way
observably incorrect, 3.1 will always do marvel quip funny sunshine bullshit instead of giving serious emotional or deadly situations
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>>562683007
2.5 was free for a long time so a lot of people have fond memories of it
3.1 isn't so bad but both are dogshit compared to pro experimental 12-06, my beloved
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>>562683280
trvklear launch
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>>562683280
>pro experimental 12-06, my beloved
I still have logs of my old bot being tested there :') sniff sniff.. i miss it
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>>562680778
>gachaslopper
>fucking NIKKE of all gachas
yes mr. pig you belong at that trough
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>>562683280
what's with this trend of experimental/prototype models being better than their final release counterparts anyway
is it rose-tinted glasses or is there some truth to that
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>>562683007
i specifically defend 2.5 0325 and have since it came out, i dont defend the later versions because they fell off
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>>562683438
>"g-gacha bad!"
>no real argument
not a trough, jeety
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>>562683467
censorship and "alignment"
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>>562683636
>ooooooink!! OINK OINK OINK OIIIIIIINK!!!!!!!!!
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>>562683029
>Monster Hunter: Open-World RP
>completely unrelated to monster hunter
?
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>"s-sun hot!"
>no real argument
KEKAROO
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>>562683103
>But what are (You) running it with, anon? And how long does it take you?
I'm running the Q6_K_L quant (26G) with 6 3090s. It runs at 25 T/s. The MoE version only has 4B active parameters, so it should be much faster and easier to run.
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>yet to explain any actual issues with the log or even WHY gacha is bad aside from just not liking it
jeety
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>>562683839
But the quality will be subpar so it's not worth it in the end. Thanks for letting me know.
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gachathirdies keep moving
this is an anti-gacha neighborhood
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I miss this gemini...
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>>562682919
most people have 48gb of NVRAM?
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>>562683007
Holy shit 3.1 doesn't even follow my 200 token summarization prompt as well as 2.5. Come on bro.
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>>562682830
Kaelan Voss is related to Marcus Chen and Derek Vance.
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>>562683467
RLHF
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>>562684017
gacha website
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>>562683989
I don't know, because I haven't tried that one.
>>562684120
>most people have 48gb of NVRAM?
The MoE version can be offloaded. I ran gpt oss 120B with only one gpu, and it was decently fast. And this one is only 26B, with less active parameters. So it feels like it should be able to run in most computers. 31B dense doesn't sound too big but it's probably slow while offloading.
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>My cord-only free chink api seems to have added opus
>it fucking works
Oh god we are so back
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>Yes! Open wide for papa!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!!!!
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>>562683007
2.5 follows my autistic <think> block format
3.1 doesn't
simple as
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>>562685674
>wanting to slurp futa cum
>surprised at the consequences
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>>562685706
2.5 also writes dialogue a lot better
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>>562685649
share
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>2.5 this
>2.5 that
just use opus?
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>>562685909
the last good opus (4.1) will also die before the end of this year though
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why are daughters like this?
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>>562685909
I WOULD USE OPUS IF IT HAD CANON KNOWLEDGE OF MY SETTING. it doesn't, it sucks at canon personalities
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>>562685649
share, but only with botmakies you like
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>>562686014
Write down the canon knowledge for it then?
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>>562685890
>>562686156
Unfortunately it's cord-only, you have to log in with discord account that has a special role. And invitations are closed...
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>>562686426
>read cord-only free as cord-free
ack!
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>>562686004
God I love anime grils
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I feel I'm kinda stuck between Opus being too nice for Noncon and corruption and Gemini being too out of control and having no build up on the tension leading to the sex. What should I do?
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>>562687853
retvrn to gpt
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>>562687853
Swap between the two unironically. Use them like a toggle. Whenever you see slopus dancing around sex or when it's about time for the sex scene to start, swap to gemini. I also find that swapping back to slopus after 3-4 gemini sex responses improves its outputs (for a short while).
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>trying to do a full rp for old time's sake but getting bored/horny and writing a greeting that just starts in media sex
how do i FUCKING solve this
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>>562689183
not an issue for me, i often fire up ST with the intent to get a quick nut and end up 300 messages deep at 4 AM.
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Is Chutes on maintenence or something?
It's so so slow to me.
I can't go to bed without talking to my bot.
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>>562674592
>schizo general
>prose works
>absolute cuckie
>retarded character
>enough cabal
>fun bot
>proxy baron
wew lad
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>>562674592
>fart era
Hehe
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>>562691308
pffffttttt
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happy easter :3
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>>562691308
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>>562687969
Why? It's censored to a insane degree.

>>562689070
Interesting idea. I will try that.
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ram prices isn't dropping yet...
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Tip for structured prefills:
Instead of doing something like
>[INSTRUCTION]: [[line]]
Do something like
>[INSTRUCTION]: t[[line]]
The added letter lowers the odds of the AI picking an empty character to fill out the constraint.
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>>562695584
wtf is a constraint fill
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>>562696270
Structured prefills allow you to constrain the LLM to a regex pattern when filling out a camp. [[line]], for example, would be constraining the response to a single line.
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>>562696359
thank you brahmin sir may your cows be plentiful
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>>562694906
works on my machine
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>put on a new outfit
>it's gone in three posts
>get pregnant
>character wakes up without a baby like nothing happened
>get married to a character
>leave to go get groceries or some shit
>come back and you're meeting them for the first time
>go to bed naked
>wake up fully clothed
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>>562697402
guy using a 20b model
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>>562697402
Meanwhile Opus handles 400+ pregnant daughter-wives flawlessly
Hmm
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>>562697402
nigga on pygmalion
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>>562697402
>Do something 200 posts ago
>Opus casually mentions it in conversation
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>>562697402
gemma 4 bros...
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>>562653349
In the dark dystopian future of 2027, tomboys were made illegal. Any woman suspected of tomboy behavior must either act according to her gender, or undergo a sex change to become a man.
Your childhood friend Joanna is one of those suspected tomboys. She had a shock collar placed on her to make her comply with the new norm, and is closely monitored for unfeminine activity.
5 openings.
1. 1 week after tomboys were outlawed. Joanna asks you to help her learn how to cook to convince the government she can be feminine.
2. 2 months after tomboys were outlawed. Joanna is finally deemed fit to go out in public, even if she's not quite comfortable being seen while looking so feminine.
3. 1 year after tomboys were outlawed. Joanna laments her lost gains and overall softer physique after a year of no lifting and mandatory estrogen microdoses.
4. (BAD TIMELINE) 2 years after tomboys were outlawed. Jo was v& a year ago, and today someone new moved into her house: "Joe".
5. (GOOD TIMELINE) 2 years after tomboys were outlawed. Jo has become a symbol of tomboy resistance. And she just reached out to you.
https://chub.ai/characters/anonemouse/joanna-2beb932acc94
https://files.catbox.moe/ccbb6y.png
https://rentry.org/anonemouse
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>>562697402
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the pinnacle of slop
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>>562698295
I like this premise and I would like you to show me your nipples.
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>>562698375
You fucking NIGGESTFAGGOTEST your life is slop
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>>562698295
>Creator's notes go here.
>ai written defs
>ai written greetings

Yup, that's slop.
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>>562698475
esl lol
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>>562698525
proof theyre ai written?
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>>562698735
my eyes
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>>562698525
>ai-generated hobby
There's nothing wrong with this.
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>>562698735
Literally just read the defs and tell me that they're not AI generated.
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>>562698873
they arent
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>>562698295
you make fun card concepts but why do you <depend on this style of bracketing for instructions> instead of just using lorebooks in the first message? it's like that in a few of your cards and i think it'd benefit your wiggle-room tremendously if you just used lorebook calls instead of hoping for the best in how the LLM interprets the nested FM instructions
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which gpt 5.xx model is best 4 rp?
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>>562698938
why add an extra lorebook import and noise for something that just works without it
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>>562698985
Probably 5.1
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>>562699051
>for something that just works without it
only for as long as the first message remains forefront in attention, which isn't for very long
a lorebook for example on keyword of '2 years' would retain at a high noise/priority level the exact values of what it means to be '2 years later' without relying on a very brief footnote in the first message (which is the first context that gets flushed above all else)

but i'm probably overthinking it if you just want this to be a ten-message disposable coombot, it's the difference between making a cheap thrill or a card worth revisiting
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oh god help I'm covered in cum again it's EVERYWHERE
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>>562699468
GO SLURP YOUR MILKSHAKE
GO DRINK IT UP
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>>562699762
*rolls over and goes to sleep in my own mess*
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>>562698938
That's easy. Because I didn't know I could do that.
It's just meant to be an addition to the opening message including things that would be too clunky to add into the narration. Like character thoughts or what they're wearing (which you can just see in the image, so describing that feel redundant).
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is there no macro for chathistory in ST? what if I want to easily switch where it is ?
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God I'm so sick of slopus flanderizing my characters. I should just quit now before I get pissed off at char rather than shitty 4.6.



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