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7.5 Roadmap Edition

>News
Black Cat character reveal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn7a5F9oJwo

Dev vision vol 16: https://youtu.be/Z6JC-ciabRg

Balance Notes: https://x.com/marvelrivals/status/2044143818870550725

White Fox Character Reveal: https://youtu.be/esb1CBW2WK8

Lower Manhattan Map Reveal: https://youtu.be/ChBE64P3Ams

Hospitality 101 Event: https://x.com/i/status/2041591841058124198

Version 20260326 Balance Post: https://www.marvelrivals.com/balancepost/20260325/41667_1292877.html

Dual Life of Peter Parker event: https://x.com/i/status/2034336534070272258

>Store
Black Cat's Urban Predator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rbalW0qYaQ

Iron Fist’s Lin Shao: The Knockout and Jeff The Landshark’s Maid to Chomp skins: https://x.com/i/status/2041169240045097174

Cloak & Dagger's Daring Duo and Captain America's Brett Hendrick: The Star skins: https://x.com/i/status/2036118339370586501

Punisher's Marauder Marksman: https://x.com/i/status/2033996794342838398

Ultron's Odinforce Ultron skin: https://x.com/i/status/2033981697981546574

White Fox's Yoon Ji-woo: The Leader skin: https://x.com/i/status/2033966601918181456

The Thing's Fear Itself and Daredevil's Born Again Season 2 skins: https://x.com/i/status/2031407298669666551

Psylocke's Once-Captive Corsair & Captain America's Cursed Captain skins: https://x.com/i/status/2029738798007886162

>Links
Hero Hot List: https://marvelrivals.com/heroes_data/
Guides & News: https://marvelrivals.gg/
Tracker Resources: https://rivalstracker.com
Mobalytics Page: https://mobalytics.gg/marvel-rivals
FANDOM Wiki: https://marvelrivals.fandom.com/

Previously on /mrg/: >>563625197
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I'm done tanking. I'm tired. No more. Fix the damn game
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>>563698894
This nigga made the OP with a fucking thumbnail LMAO
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>>563698894
damn minipass spam is real
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they really didn't playtested this shit
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>Felicia is a whore that flirts with everyone
It's over.
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>Possible hero data for Moon Knight and Squirrel Girl for Blood Hunt PVE
gonna be comfy
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>>563699281
Great, Mag barely moved....
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>>563699117
micropenis stare
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>>563699281
weren't retards bitching that the CC protection was actually worthless and would never actually trigger yesterday?
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>>563699356
>Moon Knight
He’s an obvious choice for PvE, especially if it’s horde-based like zombies was. Sad he wasn’t actually in zombies but we got Blade’s best skin instead so it evens out I suppose
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>>563699281
Thor and Rogue are now F tier overnight lmao.
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>>563699371
Every guy's got a micropenis compared to hers
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>>563699507
Not mine
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>>563699281
What am I supposed to see here?
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>>563699281
>tank tards cry about CC like morons
>tanks tards also lose all the CC that makes them playable


deserved...like I said CC is not the problem it never was, bucky was the one exception and everyone blew it out of proportion
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>literally the 2 most boringest tanks are now the only viable ones
I DONT WANNA FUCKING PLAY STRANGE OR MAGNETO
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What did tanks do to deserve such treatment? You can't play Emma, Rogue, Hulk, Thor, Peni, Groot, Cap, Angela, so what the fuck? They all die all but instantly when trying to do their function, piss damage, and yes Im fucking bored playing Strange and Mag
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>>563699775
You WILL play them.
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>>563699675
Mag dropped out of Rogue's combo because it's essentially a burst of CC moves that filled his Tenacity factor really fast, meaning the new system is a hard nerf to her. And she's already situationally okay, generally bad.
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>complain about cc
>cc gets nerfed
>cry
???
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Good thing pve is coming out next week so I can just get all my missions there
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It’s my birthday wish me happy birthday please
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>>563699775
hahaha the china dev way
boring is the only way too win which is basically standing still and shooting
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You WILL be buying her pass and all her additional cosmetics, right?
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>>563700009
this is all the devs care about is which matching purse to wear
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>>563700009
>no barefoot or no socks option
dropped
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>>563699281
>rogue cucked
Holy fucking based. Most insufferable tank to ever have to face. I fucking hate her with every fibre of my being. Eat shit rogue fags.
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>>563700009
While I like the idea, I do not care for the outfit.
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>>563700009
this concept could be cool with characters like Iron Man
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>Spider-Man's new legendary has that dead-eyed stone face during any emote since they were never designed with his face in mind
You think they'll ever go back and fix that? It looms pretty bad when you can only use one emote normally.

Even something like his seat emote looks off. His Man-Spider one just looks silly. Screaming and writhing around in agony while his face doesn't move and his mouth is shut.
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>>563700003
Happy birthday! :)
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What is up with quickplay suddenly getting full with scrubs? Every time I try a different character I rarely play, the enemy team are hyper competent at healing and my team usually makes no effort to take out the healers that are constantly negating any damage done to the frontline. I always have to switch to the characters I'm good at to get any KOs because 4/5th every match I get, i'm paired up with absolute retards. Is quickplay based on skillmatching?
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>instantly nuke the enemy players at the start of the match
>they swap characters in real time
>healpool staggers us for 4 minutes straight
>not even an apology

lol why are teammates like this? do people care more about rage baiting or being a complete cuckhold than they do winning the match and getting it over with?
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>>563700349
Iron who? This is a marvel game. We only care for sai, luna, and sue skins here. They sell the most what with them being the most popular marvel characters of all time for generations.
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>>563700364
In other news, Spider-Man is also fucked by cc changes.
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>>563700398
Quick play is always full of scrubs, usually on both sides. I get MVP with Fantastic quite often
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Soon
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WOW THESE SPECIFIC CHARACTERS ARE MAKING THE GAME UNPLEASENT WITH CC SPAM?
LETS DO A UNIVERSAL CHANGE TO CC FOR EVERYONE EVEN THE CHARACTERS WHO RELIED ON IT AND WERE C-B TIER

lol isnt it funny how they keep doing shit like this? is phoenix got nerfed then like 4 other characters get nerfed.
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>>563700398
>suddenly
where the fuck have you been?
Honestly if QP didnt have the okay you can win against bots rotation this game would have died 2 seasons ago
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>>563700634
Damn. Mister Marvel is looking sick!
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Is the Glartrox cinematic?
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Maybe Brogue’s dogshit kit shouldn’t have been so CC heavy to begin with. Did you troons ever consider that? Huh?
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>>563700310
fuck you
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>>563700675
I mean these are the same devs that just buffed luna snow for 0 reason
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gambit might actually go on to be one of the longest lasting reoccuring bans in the game.

I'm genuinely surprised that Zhiyong and GuangGuang refuse to take the L on this because It's just as clear as day that he shouldn't get healing on his ultimate let alone be able to damage boost.
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>>563700835
Speaking of Brogue, did the Brogue/Mangela/Emman poster pass judgement on Black Cat yet?
What's the verdict?
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>>563699484
Good. Rogue is fucking cancer.
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There will never be reworks btw. Devs are too busy making a hero and like 3 team ups for every single month so expecting BW to get a new gun or some shit is delusional.
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>defend Rogue against hate
>buy her bullshit wedding RNG skin
>praise Netease for designing an underpowered character under the guise "git gud"
>and now they pull this bullshit
It's so wrong bros
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If you need to chain CC to play your hero, then you don't deserve to have CC.
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>>563700009
Yes
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Just fucking fire Zhiyong already holy fucking shit it can't be hard jesus
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I usually roll my eyes at doomposters and literally never say that kind of shit but I unironically think that if they go through with this CC change this will accelerate the death of this game.

Who tf was complaining about CC?
Im diamond, play dive tanks and duelists yet I never felt like it was that big of an issue.
Is it a high elo thing? is it a bottom elo thing?
What a shit show
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>>563701254
>Who tf was complaining about CC?
Who isn't?
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Sex with Thor while CC immune
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>>563701168
zhiyong owns 50% of netease
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Wait so you telling me jeff and white fox is just gonna drop out of CC skills while infinitely healing themselves?Namor just gonna bubble out of my thing tackle?Psy is gonna just dash out of my groot ult?
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DPS characters are the core of everything wrong with this game
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>>563701254
I still think they're doing this to show they're being responsive to complaints, but they know it's a bad idea and will revert it after enough people get how bad of an idea it is.
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>>563701254
The over healing overrided any excessive CC any ways, not to mention gambit has a cleanse, thing and groot had some cc immunity built in.
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were you guys really being outmatched by rogue
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>>563701316
Getting mass CC chained is not fun of course but how often does it actually occur?
People in this game dont comms of any type, so coordinated combos of that nature aeemingly rarely occur (in my personal experience, Ill admit).
Hence why Im asking if the people asking for that change were higher elo people who have to fight people with brains and teamwork in mind or did the bitching come from players who cant even plan 2 steps ahead.
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>Emma's beam does piss damage, takes too long to build up, and her shield is worthless now
>Rogue's cooldowns are ridiculous enough as it is
>Hulk has to flee constantly and we're doomed to revert into puny Banner, a form no one plays willingly
>Thor has to dive head first into the fray and usually pays for it
>Angela has shitty health/shields, and her charge attack is jank as fuck thus making her entire playstyle unplayable
>Peni has to lay down 3 mines to kill anything, and her web zip is still bugged
>Groot is circumstantial and easily countered
>Captain America can't kill anything

NetEase, just say you fucking hate tanks. That's the reason why so many end up solo, you make it impossible to play the role.
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>>563701015
In game model seems ok. Much better than her 2D artwork. She’s no Sue but she’s also no Emman either. Let’s go with a cautious ‘not gay to coom to for now’ verdict until she officially releases.
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>>563701254
Everyone was complaining about CC but the primary problem was
Bucky
Phoenix
Elsa
Angela
Spider-Man
Invisible Woman
Luna

They just had an overwhelming amount of stun and if you ran 2-3 of them in a team composition then you couldn't play specific characters. This upcoming update is the best example of Zhiyong spitefully punishing everyone because he doesn't want to nerf things on a case-to-case basis. They legitimately just need to accept that specific characters are ruining the game and It's suffocating the entire roaster.

But for some, they'll continue wearing the clown-make up. Hopefully Reddit have a meltdown when they CC venom and Hulk into nonstop deaths.
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>>563701650
Putting Spider-man and Luna on the same list as the others is certainly a choice.
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>>563701650
when they cannot* cc venom and hulk into nonstop deaths.
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didnt realize last thread is already dead so im reposting my shitpost
>play ultron
>retards tell me to pick heal bot support instead of adapting to our picks
low gm is so shit
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>>563701639
Agree on everything except Rogue. Fuck Rogue. Tired of faggots pretending this piece of shit flying everywhere and literally cluttering your screen worse than Deadpool In Your Area is bad.

Also Groot is THE most banned tank in the game, what are you on. Ironwood buff makes him immune to Wolverine.
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>>563701828
Most players who bitch about Ultron usually overextend and have crap positioning. You can't accuse an Ultron for healboting, unless they just outright refuse to shoot. If you stick with him, you can be immortal
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>>563701650
Sue and bucky had gotten buffs they didnt even need..
turned sue into a slow machine and bucky into a grounded machine
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>>563701382
yes
ignite the battle!
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>>563701717
Spider-Man has the most insane mobility of any hero shooter character ever made and can pull people to their deaths from nearly every relevant range he needs.
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>someone goes Punisher
>it is now impossible to play Venom, Thor, or Hulk
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Blade bro, I have been on the edge of my seat wondering, what are your thoughts on Black cat? She catch your eye?
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>>563702207
Don’t forget thing. Stupid fag has been busted for ages now and no one seems to care.
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>>563700971
Clicked and thought the acorn was a cock cage
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>>563701648
I can agree with this, even if I think her general design takes too many cues from the others and makes her look kinda samey
>>563701091
Once again, the emojis are just better (minus the freakishly long fingers)
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>>563700971
Need a close up of tippytoe to make my decision
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>>563700971
yo wtf that's a big ass clitty cage!!
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ChudThor
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>>563699281
they might have to actually roll this back before tomorrow just what was Chinkyong thinking, the complaint was getting hit with multiple CC from different characters. It should only activate for that not one fucking character
why cant he do anything right
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>>563702679
these dialogue exchanges are always so cringe
>hey spider man! remember the time i fought a giant spider once?
>heh, thats nothing blade! what about the time i fought off 15 rabid vampires?
>heh, i could take them myself!
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Hulkbros, I quit. No more. I am Psylocke main now. Psylockesisters, I'm struggling with supports. They can heal up so easily so I end up using my left-right-left without killing anyone. How can I as Psylocke deal with the easiest role?
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>>563702869
You can't quit.
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>>563702051
The amount of characters that have no or little to no counterplay to pulls can be counted on one hand. If you're getting pulled off for the vast majority of the cast you were outplayed.
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The main issue with Hulk and CC has always been that his jump is cancelled when he gets CC'ed. That's literally it. No one asked for them to render all CC in the game null and void.
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>>563702869
you swap to magneto, cuck
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>everyone just wanted diminishing returns on hard CC so you don't get frozen/webbed/displaced into dying
>they just introduce a huge global mechanic that includes all soft CC so now the game is entirely unpredictable

it must be a really sweet gig to get paid to be a fucking retard
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>>563702869
pull up psylocke dark-skinned_male on second monitor
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>>563702679
>Rivals Thor confirmed gay
Congrats, baraposter
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she's got a bad case of gamer posture
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>>563703238
>Please bro, just go Magneto. Mag is the best solo tank. Please, just play Mag. Trust me bro, we don't need a second tank. I swear the tanks are good, just skill issue bro
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>>563702831
That’s what happens when your shit is marketed towards “all ages”
>>563703510
Gay wishful thinking more like
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>>563700009
skin is good but buying every cosmetic piece is retarded and most of them are downgrades to the original pieces
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>pull up psylocke dark-skinned_male on second monitor
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If you're wondering why Squirrel Girl is getting skins, it's because of me
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>>563704090
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>>563704090
damn you been licking butts and shooting nuts
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I got the lowest amount of rankup points on my team for this game lol

I genuinely hope the cc update kills this game because i cant afford to waste anymore cortisol on this shit
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I think at this point I hate Punisher more than I ever hated Phoenix

>shuts down off tanks entirely with the shotgun
>requires a Magneto pick to have any sort of counter play
>if the Punisher also has a Magneto/Strange on his team your Magneto counter is no longer a counter

Other than having a significantly better Hela/Phoenix at mid/long range there seems to be no actual counter to this character. He counters tanks, off tanks, divers, and flyers.
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>>563704430
DPS gods bow down now peasant
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So do Thorfags also get fucked by the CC changes?

Getting molested by one over and over should proc Tenacity pretty fast.
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>>563704812
There is no agenda anymore, Thor IS D tier!
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>>563699675
Combo character can no longer combo.
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>Thing can't do his grounded slam into his ULT.
>Wolverine can't Kidnap into his ULT
FIRE THESE FRAUDS. THEY DON'T EVEN PLAY TEST THEIR GAMES
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>>563704812
Tenacity procs off all types of CC and this includes soft CC like slow/displacement. It also applies through ults. So now Thor's shift, E, and ult can potentially proc CC cleanse.
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>>563704812
Everyone gets fucked by it. Remember its a team game, everyone is getting CCd all the time and yours could always just be rhe unlucky last one. Maybe Thor only dashes once, but the got two ticks of Wanda's stuff and a Sue shove and slow before, so your one dash you tried to use just makes them immune and fucks your ass.
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>stand in peni web
>accumulate infinite tenacity
>be forever immune to cc
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I fucking hate Marvel
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>>563700971
Wtf is Squirrel boy thinking wearing his chastity cage in public? What a pervert.
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>beg for rogue buffs
>get a slight cooldown decrees then nothing for months
>cope and play her anyways since shes still pretty fun
>devs say fuck you and nerf her anyways

Alright I'll just play dps since all the fun tanks keep getting gutted.
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>angela
>blade
>hulk
>invisible woman
>jeff
>Mr Fantastic
>peni
>rogue
>scarlet witch
>spiderman
>the thing
>thor
>Venom
>wolverine

These heroes have chain CC kits and probably get fucked hardest by new anti-CC system. How long until they roll back kek?
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>>563706175
never
we're in the eos endgame now
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>>563699281
>they really didn't playtested this shit

I could've told you that from the solution they came up with. No actual good game designer would've done such an overdesigned and fragile system that could break in so many ways.

What they should've done is just flat out remove a lot of CC from most of the roster, especially Duelists and some Strategists. There is simply way too much CC in the game for heroes that don't need it.
Zhiyong is so fucking bad at his job I'm actually stunned.
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>NetEase says they're going to nerf CC
>tanks get excited
>NetEase puts in a blanket CC nerf across the board, nerfing tanks the hardest of all from doing their job
NetEase consistently proving that they only have a hammer so everything is a nail. Anyone with a brain would recognize tanks are the class that need CC and CC resistance for game balance. Instead NE is terrified of making DPS and Supp babbies shit their diapers if they just gave Tenacity to tanks.
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>stand under enemy storm
>build up and be cc immune
ban this tenacity merchant whore
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>>563707078
They can't.

They have backed themselves into a corner building DPS and Support kits around CC even down to adding ridiculous soft CC to retarded shit like Moon Knight's Ankh. If they did what they should have done, strip CC out of every DPS but maybe Wolverine who it's essential to and all Supports, they would be faced with a chimpening of players freaking the fuck out.

Likewise, if they did what they should have done and just gave CC resistance to tanks, then DPS and Supps would also lose their fucking minds that the tanks get something they don't. We're already getting treated to, "Oh but WE get hit by CC too it affects everyone!" because these players have literally zero understanding of how different roles have different purposes in a Hero Shooter and maybe there's a reason tanks should have CC resistance but others shouldn't for the same reason supports should have healing but tanks shouldn't.
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>bloated diver kit
>oh hey, let's also give this hero an entire page worth of extra abilities
>like team wallhack, self purge, portal through walls, invisibiility, a movement ability and grounding zone
Why do they keep just throwing so much shit into all hero kits.
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>>563706175
The game is gonna be more focused on side content anyways so soon the 6v6 changes wont matter. Were gonna get what overwatch promised but at the cost of balance being whatever it is.
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>>563705649
She deserves a nice strong man like her brother to breed her…
>>563706636
True…
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>>563699046
The amount of retarded hoops retarded comic writers go through to ruin characters should be documented.
This is all because they can't stand the Galactus/mpreg parasite angle.
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>>563699479
None of you read Blood hunt did you.
Moon Knight was a key part to that.
Also give me fucking Tigra holy fuck.
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>>563707470
should have been random pick to make you think fast and work around it
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>>563699378
I'm one of those and I wrongly assumed the one designing and implementing it was a human being and not an insect.

Does the immunity trigger from blade's anti-heal?

CC immune foes are unaffected by anti-heal ergo it counts as a form of CC.

He applies it in 4 ticks, on top of a knockback, for 5 total in a single dash.
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>Supports complain everyday
>Supports get everything they want and blessed by khonshu
>Tanks complain once
>Tanks get monkey pawed and their entire linage will be cursed
I'm sorry I underestimated your power supportsisters...
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>>563707808
No, but it applies on microboops like catching someone with the dash.
The funny thing is that slows don't count, it seems that this system is specifically designed to stop displacement and hard stun CC only. Other form of debuffs don't count.
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tigra and cheetah should kiss
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>>563698894
Finally PvE is almost here
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>>563708397
>another waw zombies but shit event
oh boy can't wait
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>mrg kept saying half season patch will fix everything
>the half season patch actually makes the game much worse

lol, lmao
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the CC reduction was actually made solely for 18v18 the REAL main mode
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>>563708875
THE MOON
MRRRR!
THE MOON
MRRRR!
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huffing Doreen's bushy pits!
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>>563708840
Hey look they removed half of a CC ability by nerfing Bucky and he only got a massive damage increase in return
I'm sure this will make the game much more playable
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>>563708840
>Zhiyong says that some big change is coming that everyone has been asking for
>they wind up implementing it in such a way that makes it clear that they don't even bother to consider playtesting shit and don't play half their characters
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>>563709581
>bother to consider playtesting shit
Nigga, it's on a test server now
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Any Iron Man mains experience your mouse lagging when you are using your chest beam? I don't know whether it's the game itself or my mouse but I keep on lagging at the most important times when I am trying to lock onto an enemy and it sometimes makes me want to smash my stupid chinkwear mouse.
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>>563698894
I just learned that Felicia tells Spiderman they should go fuck sweaty nasty style in a corner somewhere mid match.

Gonna goon so hard to this bitch.
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>>563707860
weird pic
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>>563699775
So play Peni who is actually strong and is getting stronger with her buffs.
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>>563709686
Disable framegen and lower the settings. You are experiencing input latency during hectic fights because of fps drops.
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Felicia wants T'Challa's meat.
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we DC now?
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>>563709720
yeah too bad she walks like a fucking skinwalker
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i cannot wait for all the new art and Blender smut my FUARKING Captain is gonna get when they finally add her.
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>>563709182
SQUUUUUUUUUUIRRRELLL
STAMPEEEEEEEEEEDE
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It's time for the strike boys
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>>563699356
>>563708397
They're definitely shifting focus to the alt modes like PVE and 1 v 6 with the Path to Doomsday. Which I may not be against. The comp scene is fucked but I still have fun in the 18 v 18 modes and the occasional alt modes like that battle chess mode they had and the first pve was fine for an initial experiment. So yeah, go for the more chill fun modes and leave that mess behind.
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When you bring me out can you introduce me as The Undertaker
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>>563710404
Why does she have this line with Rogue of all characters?
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Is it all going to be 1v6 for the path to doomsday thing? Loki is the first one but they're gonna do the same with Ultron and then maybe Thanos?
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>>563711101
I have Z's hairline.
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>>563710806
I bought this variant physically.
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>>563710404
what a whore
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>>563711230
Most likely. Recycle the mode with different bosses and stages.
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>>563711230
I hope this means Saxton Hale, I mean Thanos, will be playable
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>>563711289
based. i hope you enjoy adding it to your collection.
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>>563709720
That's a man playing her. No bitches would play this overcomplicated character
You goon you gay
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>>563711627
are you okay anon? mentally I mean
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>>563711730
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>>563711230
If it is then Dr Doom would make sense as the playable characters at the end of it.
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>>563710404
jesus, look at the man hands on rogue
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Did they just rip off Smite. From the recent Smite patch notes
>Tenacity now reduces the intensity and strength, but not the duration of:
>Vortexes
>Fears and Taunts
>Intoxicates and Trembles
>Slows
>Knockbacks and Knockups
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>>563712604
Who the fuck cares about Smite?
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>>563712875
the Rivals devs clearly
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Wont the new tenacity mechanic completely invalidate Emma's ult?
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>>563710404
Nah, she's just trying to steal his shit. She has no flirty lines with BP but she does with fucking Angela for some reason.
Also holy fuck she mogs Rogue so hard.
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>>563713214
Yes.
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>>563713214
You're right. It's time to give Invis a second shield charge
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how's this for a black cat kit?

Passive 1 - enemies can't hear her footsteps.
Passive 2 - any enemy in her presence has a 50% chance of their crits failing.
Passive 3 - whichever enemy lands the final hit on her gets super bad luck meaning for the next 10 seconds they have a 50% chance of any of their attacks doing 50% less damage.
Passive 4 - whoever has ace on the enemy team is worth more money than their allies.

M1 - standard melee attack. doesn't steal money from people.
M2 - ranged whip attack. cost money to use and has a chance to crit no matter where you strike the enemy. also grants bonus health if she hits the enemy. doesn't steal money from people.
Shift - dash attack. 2 charges. pierces through enemies. steals money through those she passes through. also inflicts super bad luck.
E - whip that steals money from the enemy.
R - the little strange portal. but instead of being magic, make it a gadget or someshit.
F - gamble move. press it to spend some money and get a random passive buff for 10 seconds. could be a speed boost to herself and surrounding allies, could be a damage boost to herself and surrounding allies, could be invisibility to herself, could be seeing through walls for herself and allies, could be CC immunity for herself and allies, could be healing over time to herself and allies, or it could just result in wasted coins. buffs can't be stacked. if you use the ability while a buff is activity it just gets replaced by the new one.
Ult - she throughs a bunch of cards at the enemy. anyone hit by it is give a random debuff for a couple of seconds, and the severity of the debuff is up to chance.

keeps the theme of bad luck and stealing money but doesn't result in her having 50 million magical moves like a wizard. her niche will basically be flanking to steal money and buff her team.
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>>563713214
Not entirely but getting caught in Emma's ult will basically give any character full Tenacity meter lel

Enjoy. I mean if anything if you're a tank you're going to want to walk into Emma's ult to take damage as a trade for full CC resistance and go apeshit.
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>>563712604
No. No one has done something as retarded as the anti-CC thing in Rivals. Any sensible designed wouldn't even have greenlit it for prototyping.

The way to do it is to have a passive CC duration and/or intensity reduction. Either for a duration or passively. Having it pop a multi second long CC immunity after a set amount is retarded, making it too uncontrollable and random.
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Will maid Elsa shake her fat ass in front of the camera like Deadpool?
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>>563713931
>Will maid Elsa shake her fat ass in front of the camera like Deadpool?

Of course not. For males it's not sexist because it's a """joke""" but for women it's sexist because it's a woman. Double standards, what's that?
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>>563714013
I thought the based chinamen were above that shit?
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>>563713550
i've noticed lately that people are less interested in speculating about upcoming heroes and daydreaming of kits because the honeymoon phase of the game is ending and many of us are still without our favorite heroes and are increasingly frustrated by kit power creep. i'm sure this is a decent write-up but frankly NetEase aren't going to listen to us so it's just kinda pointless.
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>>563709640
The "test server" is just there for streamer dipshits to make content. They're not gonna change the update.
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>>563715349
You're noticing nothing. The "drought" is from the people who wanted to do that shit had already did it for the characters they like.
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>>563716172
did Zhiyong send you a little trophy for being his #1 fan?
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>>563716234
Yeah he did. I put it next to my trophies i get for fucking your mom. Tough competition but I always come out on top.
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>>563716559
don't worry. getting trophies for being the last man at the orgy is still good
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>>563715349
More or less.

Characters I want:
>Juggernaut
>DOOM
>Cable
>Beta Ray Bill
>Doctor Octopus
>Cyclops

The only one of these that isn't full on A list known by everyone is Bill basically. Maybe Cable to an extent but he's like Marvel A- tier at worst given how highly featured he was in the 90's and even wound up in Deadpool 2. The others are as basic as they come. Yet for some reason they are insisting on shoving in random Literally Who characters as if they're going to run out of Marvel characters.

They could do an entire year of nothing but Spider-Man villains and still not leave the Marvel A-list. Then there's all the X-Men. Avengers. Villains. Marvel has such a deep bench they can do literally years of well known characters even at 12 per year.

I understand they need to make coomer characters to sell skins to keep the game going to Black Cat makes sense but like, why Luna? Why White Fox? Why Devil Dinosaur? A big T-Rex is cool but it's not gonna push people into the game, adding people's favorite characters does that. i see Marvel Tokon making the same problem where the devs think lol so random picks is cool and creative when in reality if you want people to buy your game you should jam it full of all the most popular characters and just a couple off the wall picks.

Although for Tokon they're just doing the new fighting game standard of saving fan favorites for DLC to sell battle passes.
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>>563716662
Not a good reply in terms of a comeback nor smart given what I already said.
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>>563715349
>>563716989
GuangGuang flat out said they and Marvel want to have hundreds of characters in Rivals eventually. So they will drip feed heroes people actually want with most of them being literal who ones.
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>>563716989
great post. i completely agree with the sentiments expressed. i really hope the rest of the Tōkon trailers aren't as underwhelming as Spidey's was. i can only hope that the player count of Rivals will crater to such a cataclysmic extent that they'll lock in and start more popular characters and less literal who's.
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>>563717624
start *adding* more popular characters
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Yoon Ji-Woo: The Leader
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Release the caltrops!
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>>563717920
Yoon Ji-Woo: the big fat ass
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>>563717920
Is that kiriko or juno
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>>563700003
Happy Birthday
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Venom-chads...
Our Goat abuses women...
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>>563718931
Based. All women in this game should be beaten
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>>563718931
Another reason why he's the goat
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>>563718931
based
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>>563698894
>avengers 1 iron man costume
Man I don't want that shit
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>>563718931
No wonder they have no interactions.
Felicia keeps her mouth shut around Eddie for a reason.
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>>563718931
the moment Felicia realized she was the side chick
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>>563719634
Forgot image.
Eddie was a completely different character in Amazing Spider-man, kinda weird he got a whole ass comic run and they barely acknowledged how much of a monster he used to be.
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i'm hoping, coping, praying, that the new PvE will be more focused on gameplay mechanics and less on upgrade grinding
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>>563699728
CC has been a problem since the game debuted.

>>563694531
Not having the game littered with CC is an even better idea.

>>563697991
Too many people in this game don't know how to play without a shield tank

>>563698962
>14.92% pick rate
>58K matches

That might have something to do with it.
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>>563700009
Hulk hasn't gotten a skin in over half a year. I'm not buying shit.
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>>563700009
it's crazy how this game simultaneously has some of the best art to feature in a marvel product and some of the worst. what is this boring ugly crap?
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>>563720928
Rivals originals can be very hit or miss.
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>>563700009
More light blue and pink huh
no other color patterns exist I wonder why is that
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>>563701443
>>563702869
Save your cooldowns and bait out their cooldowns
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Yo yo /mrg/

Wanted to practice drawing Hela again and this was initially supposed to be a quick warmup sketch but now I'm drawing a Standalone Hela 2026 Set in addition to the Lady Loki x Hela Hardcore Oyakodon

So here's a first look! Will also have Tanlines/Nip Piercings/Pubes/Textless Alts in the finals, currently debating on Preg Alts

>>563489701
>Don't take this the wrong way but this version is super sexo compared to your fully colored stuff, this just hits different.

No worries anon! You aren't only one and even I think this sometimes, there's something about the Flat Colours that's honestly so appealing to me that gets lost in the rendering. I might just start seriously practicing dialing back the rendering in certain areas to reach some kind of middle ground. Ty for the constructive feedback tho I appreciate it
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What a day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQVoZDYnOo0
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>>563705649
What's wrong? Is this the scene Magik references where Wolverine read stories to Magik about Kumiho?
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>>563706636
That would explain why they keep pumping out so many skins for the same characters.
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can you keybind black cats gimmick? like f +1, f + 2 etc otherwise its clunky if you have to click it
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>>563722530
>ai slop
What shade of brown are you? Cardboard? Shit? Dirt?
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>>563721595
>Will also have Tanlines/Nip Piercings/Pubes/Textless Alts in the finals, currently debating on Preg Alts
Now that's what I call BASED! Vol 12.

I'm really looking forward to HelaXLady Loki, and I'm sure you've got a lot on your plate, but what's the ETA on your first Felicia pic? She's gonna be easy coom fodder for the devs and fanartists alike.
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>>563698894
Could this be the first actual good winter soldier skin?
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>>563725514
I forgot to add, Blood soldier looks good but when every skin he's had makes him look drastically different and has no mask it starts getting a little annoying
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So they take feedback log in as luna and bucky
play for probably 10 games and "balance" based on the games they played
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>Elsa nerfed finally
>still have to play Magneto every game because every DPStoid has flocked to Punisher

It's genuinely crazy how Mags holds this piece of shit game together
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>>563702207
Thor player here
You're bad
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Jeremy says Thor is fine
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Off the bat here's how I'd change Black Cat
>currency caps at 300
>currency constantly ticks down
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>>563718896
Would nut
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>>563727695
With great power comes great responsibility...
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>>563727695
Should’ve ended it with calling him a spoilsport since they’ve had similar conversations in the comics
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>>563723506
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The CC changes are great. Fuck Rogue. Hulk is actually better now, it's a dumb character with low skill expression, as intended. Angela and Thor are largely not affected.
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https://files.catbox.moe/1dqg69.jpg
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>>563729063
soon felicia will join them...
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>>563727964
She might be a little overtuned right now, that doesn't mean you need to Black Widow her shit before she's even officially out. Let's at least see how she fairs in the hands of the people first.

Deadpool's kit has tons of bells and whistles and it's generally agreed that only Tankpool is strong, Healpool is okay, and Duelpool sucks.
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>>563727695
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>>563729196
Why dont we make her underpowered at launch and make it better over time
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>>563727695
selfinserterbros...we VVON!
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>>563729304
The back to back release of Blade and Angela nearly killed the game
And Angela wasn't even bad, most people just sucked ass with her at first
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>>563729427
They still suck with her. They all cry for a 2nd tank
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>>563729395
yeah, you won the mental illness award
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>All this bickering about CC changes
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>>563729979
It's mostly Hulk retards throwing a tantrum that they can't juggle you for 10 minutes AFTER exiling you forever. The only character that is actually fucked by this change is Rogue.
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>>563730090
Rogue is cancer do I'm fine with it
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>>563729427
>Nearly killed the game
The game was perfectly fine. Angela is in a good spot now and never had an oppressive season so i call that a win. Blade just should have been a tank
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>>563730090
They could take the CC out of Rogue's kit, except the ability drain, and she'd be fine. Most Rogue's use her moves for added damage and mobility. The fact she pulled, knocked up, and dragged with the dive kick are added effects no one asked for.
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>>563730090
It also affects thor, peni, thing, and to a smaller extent strange in a moderate way. The changes originally meant to help off tanks is going to kill them.
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>>563730864
>Peni
???
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I was hoping black cat would be a tank with a massive gigantic ass and thighs but she just has an ass and thighs
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>>563729269
Why is she so horny, bros? I don't read the comics at all, is she supposed to be like this?
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>>563730978
The webs cause CC
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anyone else waiting to see where black cat ranks in the blade's harem?
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>have only played dps characters with extremely little or no cc since release
Feels good
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>>563730978
>Character who is hard carried by cc will be affected by cc change
Thats why she got a buff this season. They knew she was getting hit hard
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>>563730864
>Peni
>Thor
Not exactly because their CCs aren't long enough to trigger tenacity and even if applied on Thor's end, he can still drag you even if the effects are reduced slightly as the patch notes states.
See here:
https://files.catbox.moe/sj1g9m.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/sj1g9m.mp4
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>>563731174
Peni will get hit because at any point there are a bunch of effects going on in the game that count towards the cc change. Its short but it will stack with the other affects. Thor will be hit similarly but he can play around it a little more.
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>>563731038
Wouldnt she be the first?
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>>563731597
right now psylocke is the harem commander
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>>563731038
Blade has no interests in another black
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>>563731735
Isnt blade just a black incel?
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>>563731038
You are brown
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>>563731452
>there are a bunch of effects going on in the game that count towards the cc change
So the system is working as intended because that means it affects those characters as well too. In a 1v1 scenario, tenacity will rarely applied but in a team contention scenario the mechanic will appear more often.
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>>563699281
I've seen enough. Nerf Rockets dash again.
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>>563732007
These characters are balanced around what they have been doing so it's going to kill some characters until they are changed (and they typically wait forever to do that)
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>>563730864
It doesnt affect any of those characters in a significant way, streamers have already tested it. Slows don't count as cc for whatever reason. Thor doesn't stack that much CC in practice despite the bubble and hammer push. Hulk is affected primarily because the exiled shit eats most of the tenacity threshold before they launch the juggle combo.
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>>563719835
god i love macfarlanes spidey run.
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>>563732569
Can't Hulk do the juggle thing without exiling? Hulktards seem a bit entitled here.
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>>563732854
The exile just makes it easier to set up
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literally just make it so all tanks bypass all the anti-cc bs like emma's grab already does, tanks are suppose to be a high priority target and should be a treat at all times
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jesus christ, negros is doing some wacky things with her portals. theres so much more potential than i realized, you can make portals that go really damn far if you find the right spots
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>CC changed fuck over Spider-Man
Fucking based, I'm so tried of that faggot getting free kills pulling people off the map
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I'm dropping Storm. I can't take it anymore.
>Ultimate is a suicide button(thanks powercreep)
>Tons of bad matchups now
>Easy kill target in every new character trailer
>Play Storm into Psylocke, I dare you
>Healers just laugh at your ult(thanks again powercreep)
>Slowest flyer
>Need to be near the ground for team to utilize aura buff
>Tons of average abilities ground you
>Still reloading wind instead of infinite ammo
>Shots pierce, but veer off path after the 1st hit, so unreliable
>Speed still useless outside of leaving spawn

and the worst offense:
>Still no Gala skin
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>>563733373
She just needs something small as a change. I absolutely love seeing a good storm player so i get constant buffs
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>>563732854
>>563732967
So the juggle isn't even dead like they claim. The cc change is already a huge buff to Hulk, who is already meta this season. Hulkfags really are entitled fucks.
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>>563733291
Whats killing me is the fact the enemy can see where the portal is and they all just act like no ones gonna come from there. Imagine Strange puts a portal somewhere and every ignores it? lol
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>>563733373
tbf storm has been shitty in every adaptations shes in,MVC2 is legit the only exception,shes mid in tokon trash in comic invasion , mid in ultimate alliance etc for some reason a weather bender destroys devs imagination
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>>563730992
no more melee tanks please,deadpool showed the problem with that trash role and they nerfd him because he was dominating
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>>563733373
Did the rework even help? The wind tempo giving you bonus health then switching to the lightening tempo for damage and resets seems like the go to, no?
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furry healer and dps, now we need furry tank
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>>563734714
Angela
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>>563733373
A lot of fan favorite characters are starting to get power crept to hell and back unless your favorite Marvel is man with gun Punisher, Bimbo with a ton of over shields, or you got lucky and its a support character blessed by all the Zhiyong buffs.
Kind of sucks Storm is my favorite character but devs never do anything unique with her.
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>>563735423
They're probably going to rework popular characters as sort of re-releases down the line for player boost, but probably not anytime soon
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>>563733367
>CC changed fuck over
>I'm so tried of that
Hates Spider-Man and is ESL; it's more common than you may think!
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>>563733373
Why Storm isn't a support I cannot fathom. She could have had three "modes".

>Rain: Healing
>Wind: Movement
>Storm: Damage
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ANOTHER Psylocke skin Netease?
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>>563736186
There is nothing wrong with a duelist who can do some support. The issue is that they're hard to tune like tanky duelists and end up being super niche. Afaik Storm sees some use in tournaments, but she's probably not good in uncoordinated teams.
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>>563736186
Because supports got to be good and netease hate negroes
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>>563735376
actual tank...... and not timegated skin either......
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>>563736362
That first psylocke skin gave them a shitload of free marketing (even though it's just her normal 90s costume). I'm convinced they've been trying to replicate this again ever since.
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Netease hates blond men and loves blond women
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>>563736362
the queens of the game get all of the skins
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>>563734697
>The wind tempo giving you bonus health then switching to the lightening tempo for damage and resets seems like the go to, no?
Nah. It trades a potentially team-wide damage buff, and some of your own damage, for temporary bonus health. Imagine stealing damage from your teammates and yourself just so you can get bonus health at a really bad conversion rate. She's also the only character asked to do that: trade damage for bonus health. Everyone else just gets it for free but even if she did get bonus health for free, it doesn't fix her issues.
The lightening aura buffs just cemented the fact she should always be in lightning form. She's not a brawler that an sustain in a fight, so there is no play-style where you farm bonus HP in wind form, then swap to lightening. You''ll get blown up before the benefits of her wind aura come into affect and your trading kill potential for it.
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>>563699775
Why the fuck are you complaining at this point? Zhyiong has gone on record saying he wants one specific meta (poke) to always be stronger than everything else. This is the game he wants. It is not going to change ever.
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>>563737029
>hates blonde men
>thor has more skins than most the female cast
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>>563736186
While that sounds amazing, she would never be allowed to leave rain mode. Like a Luna who swaps to damage mid ult and someone dies.
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chinks don't know how to make fun game.
i go play superior american game, deadlock.
bye bye.
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>>563736362
I buy them all so yes
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>overwatch
>tanks are so annoying they make the game complete unfun

>rivals
>dive heroes are annoying they make the game complete unfun
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>>563699775
Its a herro SHOOTER not hero PUNCHER
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>>563734714
>furfags
>Ever playing tank
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>>563737642
Weak bait
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>>563737767
Funny how they insist every tank be a puncher, but the 3 that don't are the best.
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>>563737658
strangle his blue cock with her lips
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>>563737457
In most fights you'd be in Rain mode. Wind mode gets people back to point faster and gives overshield to her and underlings. Storm damage of course. While Rain would be the predominant one, the others would have use too just like Mantis isn't always only spamming the heals.
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Why is zhiyong so scared of nerfing supports? What are the trannies going to do?
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>>563738919
Supports buy the most skins and thus are the whales keeping the game going.
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>>563738525
Yes, but Mantis isn't asked to choose between healing or damage boost. She can do both at the same time. The choosing aspect is part of Storms current issue.
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>>563738919
if supports get nerfed dpsissies are going to whine that they have to peel
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>>563738156
You're even weaker for replying
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>>563739184
Another one for the Blade's collection.
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>>563739101
lol, if supports get nerfed I'm not peeling I'm killing their supports.
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>>563738919
hang themselves and stop swiping
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>>563731010
She flirts with basically everyone she meets but her body count is probably lower than most people expect.
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>>563733373
Storm main reporting in
>>Ultimate is a suicide button(thanks powercreep)
It's not if you're monitoring cooldowns, but also even if you dont kill it's still a useful tool to force a support ult before the actual fight begins so you can do a team without dealing with that, which is huge.
>>Tons of bad matchups now
Eh, she's a flier. Fliers are like rock paper scissors, that's just part of the archetype.
>>Easy kill target in every new character trailer
lmao character trailer, how mad are you?
>>Play Storm into Psylocke, I dare you
Actually decent against her since when she goes invis at low hp to get away you can use your surge and it'll auto hit her to finish her off or at least reveal her.
>>Healers just laugh at your ult(thanks again powercreep)
You already said this, how mad are you?
>>Slowest flyer
Because she becomes very fast when you want. Wind stance used to be a joke but since you get blue health while in it now it's a legitimate useful skill
>>Need to be near the ground for team to utilize aura buff
Not that near, but also you want to be near because her lmb penetrates for collateral. Ironman also has to be near the ground for his beam and people who go way up to spam the bolts are throwing. All fliers dont go that high.
>>Tons of average abilities ground you
Fliers in general, no big deal. You play mear the ground anyways, as established.
>>Still reloading wind instead of infinite ammo
Who... cares?
>>Shots pierce, but veer off path after the 1st hit, so unreliable
They dont veer off path, they change the attack speed. Do you even play her? Is this bait?
>>Speed still useless outside of leaving spawn
Shitter detected. Wind stance is incredible for stalling a point or chasing the enemy. Remember the surged Wind stance also slows enemies.
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>>563739184
Shame she is melee scum
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You think Black Cat is truly Petersexual or would she be desperate for other spiderman variants?
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>>563739184
I prefer the yellow alt color to this
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>>563739494
Petersexual.
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>>563711230
>ultrons first legendary is going to be james spader ultron
fuck.
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>>563741175
His base is already basically that.
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>>563699484
I FUCKING HATE THESE DEVS
STOP FUCKING BREAKING THE LEGS OF EMMA, ROGUE AND ANGELA
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>green goblin mentioned in spider-mans new story as being the one to kill main timeline captain america
GOBLINBROS HOW WE FEELING?
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>>563741423
>flier
I will delete him from the sky
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>>563739494
Petersexual
Cindy was testing her pheromones on variants during spiderverse
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>>563741363
Yeah except it looks better since it doesn't have the lips/humanoid face, it still has that Ultron jack-o-lantern style. Spader face is what I hate the most about it.
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>>563699484
>>563741397
Thor is fine. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2mvr9uq5UWg
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>>563741423
>rivals
>adding cool and unique designs
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>>563741423
>man with waves kills symbol of American values
What did they mean by this?
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>>563741423
goblin' on deez nuts
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>>563741605
>just play groot thor mag strange or peni bro
How about they stop nerfing the main female tanks. And no Peni does not count, she's not in her mech. You're playing as her robot drone.
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>>563739356
and then there's delusional die hard fans like this that will defend their shit sandwhich at all costs with responses like:
> its not suicide if time it while everyone's abilities are on cd
> Implying they need a support ult to deal with yours at all
> its ok cause shes a ground based flyer
> dude not if she's low heath
> she's fast if I want her to be
> who cares
> wind stance is incredible for stalling point
> comparing unibeam to anything Storm does
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>>563741735
>billionaire kills symbol of American values
fify
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>>563741935
Anon I was being racist
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why yes, i do ban namor, blade and bp every game
and not because of their gameplay
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>>563741854
>> its not suicide if time it while everyone's abilities are on cd
Not what I said
>> Implying they need a support ult to deal with yours at all
Skill issue?
>> its ok cause shes a ground based flyer
Talked about fliers in general not going all that high, actually. Storm plays like two feet lower than most fliers do, that's all.
>> dude not if she's low heath
Sorry this is severe skill issue, I was assume you fought with psylocke and didn't get shit on because that's how it works for me, my bad.
>> she's fast if I want her to be
That's what abilities do.
>> who cares
Yeah? It's ok for characters to have strengths and weaknesses. Dont overreact just because she has a counter, that's fine.
>> wind stance is incredible for stalling point
Another astounding skill issue. It really. Surge wind and got hit about 1/3 as much while generating blue hp, you'd be surprised what you can do with that. Well, not you, you're a shitter, but what I can do with that.
>> comparing unibeam to anything Storm does
I compared the positioning, yeah. Which is comparable.
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>>563742089
oh sorry im retarded i see now, carry on
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>>563741854
I think you might just be retarded m8
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>>563741423
>goblin rallied all of spider-mans rogues to take over manhattan
>used goblin formula to boost their powers
>this happened before dracula
This could have been such a cool season theme or PVE event and it's wasted on lore.
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>>563739356
what server you playing on that lets you stall the point with fucking storm?
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>>563742495
>>563742089
>>563741935
>racism used as a wedge to distract people from their true enemy
Art imitates life.
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>>563742641
If there's one thing comic storytelling loves is doing big climactic events multiple times
You'll get it as a season at some point
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>>563721595
Awesome! nipple rings are great too instead of the nipple bars
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>>563725034
>I'm really looking forward to HelaXLady Loki, and I'm sure you've got a lot on your plate, but what's the ETA on your first Felicia pic?

Thanks bro and LOL you have no idea man my art schedules almost always on fucking fire but it's a good sign since I'd rather be a busy artist than a starving one!

As for Felicia honestly literally if I can lock in even for one night that's all it would take to finish, I can one shot it as all that's left is the rendering/clothing Alts/Pubes/etc

I only really have one priority commission at this time (and it's the last one left from my previous Patreon comm wave, it's a lifesize body pillow commission of Lillia from League of Legends) but my clients are mad cool and know how busy I am.

tldr; Black Cat next
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>>563742715
You cant stall forever but you can put in some time. You position yourself over their DPS head, one of the hardest angles to consistently hit from. Activate your wind surge for a ton of speed making you even harder to hit. Pepper their tank with lmb, doesn't matter that you're tickling him because he's the biggest target and you only need to make contact to generate shield. And basically like 9/10 times you can stall for at least the full duration of your surge buff, which is often all you need.
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>>563743037
>Awesome! nipple rings are great too instead of the nipple bars
KINO taste and noted bro!

I did do nipple rings Alts for pic related Hela so thanks for the reminder to include them again!
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>>563742856
I hope so. Goblin themed season where its Osborn infecting people with the serum to make them insane/overpowered would be kino.
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>>563742247
>Not what I said
You literally said
>It's not if you're monitoring cooldowns
So please make up your mind

>Skill issue?
Your the retard that said it can force a support ult. It doesn't take a support ult to deal with so what are you talking about?

>Sorry this is severe skill issue
Your literally said
>>when she goes invis at low hp
So your point against it not being a bad match up is if she's already low HP? How retarded are you?

>Thats what abilities do
If you knew what abilities did then you'd know she is still the slowest flier like I said and not wave it off with delusion like "shes fast if I want her to be"
>Don't overreact just because she has a counter, that's fine.
How is this a response to the annoyance of needing to reload the wind? Are you retarded? Did I ever say otherwise?
>Still standing on wind mode being good for stalling point
You are literally telling on yourself and I'm going to keep letting you look stupid for doubling down on this. It's always the actual terrible players claiming others are bad.
>I compared the positioning, yeah. Which is comparable.
Literally none of Storms abilities compare to unibeam's range, especially not the aura which is what I was talking about.
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>Hulk can't juggle
>Think ult cucked
>Torch had his legs and arms chopped off
It's over...
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>>563735423
your best bet for the time being until they start reworking season 0 characters is either:

>play a popular skin seller character that ensures they'll get buffs if they're not good (luna, psy, invis)
>play one of the recent new release heroes
everyone else is going to be left in the dust
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This was always a gooner skin collector game and I don't get why people pretend it is something else
There is nothing competitive about it
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>>563739101
Dps don't peel regardless unless you're in the higher ranks. They'll go triple dps and have one tank against two tanks and a wolverine and still expect you to be the one to drop everything you're doing and peel. Then at the end they'll see you with lower KOs and type tank diff or some shit.
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>>563744501
>everyone else is going to be left in the dust
It's times like this where I wish the game was just Ultimate Alliance 4 on PC with mods instead of just an unbalanced Overcuck clone with China at the helm.
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>>563744693
Rankedtards ruin everything, torch and loki come to mind specifically
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>>563744451
>Hulk can't juggle
How is that bad

>think
Good

>Jonny fuck flyers
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>>563744993
It's the most reliable way for him to secure KOs on squishies.
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>>563744332
>>Not what I said
Yep, you only need to monitor the right cooldowns, which is often just one or maybe two in the whole lobby. Not everyone's. It feels like a huge impossible task to you because you're a shitter so you're using hyperbole by saying everyone's cooldown, but it's not.
>Your the retard that said it can force a support ult
Yes, if you plop it right on a supports head they will either die or ult. You can use this when a kill isnt viable to force the ult before the fight begins. This is called ult economy, youd know if you werent a shitter.
>So your point against it not being a bad match up is if she's already low HP?
No sorry you cant read I'll dumb it down for you. When she tries to kill you, and you fight back, and then when you're about to win that fight because you're not a shitter (unrelateable to you I know, but bear with me) she then tries to escape with the stealth. At which point you use the button that kills through stealth. She is not "already" on low hp, you put her on low hp. Well, I do, you're a shitter so maybe you dont.
>wave it off with delusion like "shes fast if I want her to be"
You might be mistaken, thats what YOU tried to wave it off with. I know its hard to be retarded, but thats not what I said.
>How is this a response to the annoyance of needing to reload the wind?
I guess I was giving you the benefit of the doubt but I wont make thst mistake again so dont worry. I was assuming you werent such a massive sperg that you think characters that need to reload are shit because of the reload. Thank you for correcting me.
>Still standing on wind mode being good for stalling point
Skill issue.
>>I compared the positioning, yeah. Which is comparable.
>Literally none of Storms abilities compare to unibeam's range
Uh oh! Retard literally quoted me saying positioning and immediately argued about range instead of positioning! Goddam you are worthless, no wonder you think Storm is bad.
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>>563744993
Getting exiled while he’s in ult usually meant death
Now it’s not guaranteed
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what is this CC change i keep reading about itt?
i live under a rock and have a job so im out of the loop
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>>563745396
Sounds good
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>>563741735
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>>563745421
It's Zhiyong's retarded new plan
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>>563745421
If you're in this thread then those arent true.
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>>563745421
Getting hit with CC builds up resistance to the effect, becoming full immunity after 6 instances. ‘Cinematic’ CCs like Emma, Monster Hulk, and Rogue grabs bypass it.
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>>563745923
They bypass it but they still build it.
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>>563718896
Logan is so lucky…
>>563712875
I ask this all the time
>>563741175
Thanks for killing the hype
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>>563745213
>Yep, you only need to monitor the right cooldowns
>Yes, if you plop it right on a supports head they will either die or ult
Again. Make up your mind. I said it doesn't need an ult to deal with. You keep telling on yourself.

>and then when you're about to win
You don't win this match up and the fact you think you do tells me all I need to know about your imaginary skill level and how delusional you are.

>thats what YOU tried to wave it off
Again you are delusional. idk what kind of psyop this is but you look retarded trying to pull it off.

>I made a response that literally made no sense and thats your fault
Yes we know you are a retard. You just continue to prove it.

>Uh oh! Retard literally quoted me saying positioning and immediately argued about range instead of positioning!
Again you are using an imaginary position requirement for Unibeam as a comparison against Storms aura RANGE. You tried to make a lot of retarded points but this might be the most telling one yet.
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>>563708397
… said no one ever
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>>563710404
>misleading jeet post
Business as usual
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>>563742775
most delusional post itt award
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>>563741518
Nah Cindy’s main guy is Peter she can’t get enough of BWPC
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>>563741665
accurate
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>>563700003
what someone else born on tax day?I feel so ancient now
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>>563712604
Smite's DR system has been in place for many years now, and I was just recently tweaked. Before this knockups were not reduced, they just built your DR meter. Smite's system is a lot better though, where each instance of CC reduces the intensity of the next one, but by a tiny amount. Smite's ttk is also much higher, so it's likely you'll be hit by like 9 CCs in a row before dying. Also importantly, Smite's DR system never grants full immunity at any point.
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what we could've had..
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>get a triple kill on their supports with mag's ult
>rocket's brb is still able to rez their luna
Well I've just learned something new
I already knew that it wouldn't get destroyed if Rocket died mid rez, but I assumed it would get destroyed if they all died at the same time.
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>>563731815
Does having his anus stretched out by Dracula’s ten inch ‘stake’ still count as an incel?
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>>563737468
I would play that if the gameplay wasn’t such a letdown. The characters are at least comparably attractive so it has that going for it.
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>>563737029
more like they’re envious of the men but also desire the women (many such cases)
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>>563719835
>>563718931
>>563719835
This is why women love him honestly. That he can gonfrom being a big guy teddy bear just adds to the turn on factor.
Also
>that blatant ass shot
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>>563746102
>Make up your mind
Your confusion comes from taking two different answers for two different situations and expecting them to apply to both. I dont need to make up my mind, her ult as more than one use. You can use it to get big kills if you monitor cooldowns well, or you can use it to force early ults instead. These two different situations will have two different responses.
>You don't win this match up
No, sorry, YOU dont win this matchup. I do, you're a shitter.
>>thats what YOU tried to wave it off
>Again you are delusional
It is what you said. I know you're trying to pretend its what I said because its the disingenuous re-phrasing of what I said that you're trying to make me defend, but it's actually what you said.
>Unibeam as a comparison against Storms aura RANGE
If I meant range, I would have said range. Ironman doesnt use unibeam at max range. His POSITIONING is much closer. About two or so feet above where storm optimaly plays. Which is what I said.
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>>563746968
This is the Hawkeye we need
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>>563731010
Most of the times it’s just an act to distract people so she can steal their stuff she’s not being genuine
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Still waiting on the Venom Wanda romance subplot to be resolved
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>>563727695
>>563709720
>>563729395
Does anyone else get an extremely direct invitation for sex? I think that that alone is pretty telling. Peterbros surely won though no question about that.
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>we don't need two tanks, you need to switch
This is the level of mental retardation I'm forced to endure in this game.
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>>563741423
The way this shit is written is so bad and awkward you can really tell they’re really ESL
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>>563736109
KEK trve
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>>563747551
Did you forget that this is a chinese game or what. Every word in the game is translated from chinese.
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>>563729130
stop talking to yourself freak
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>>563747645
They could still have had Deepseek or whatever revise the text.
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>>563747714
Fucking kek, yeah man that's what this game needs, ai writing. Holy shit lmao
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Wolverine is dead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzaWTrnV4PA
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>>563747714
I used to use that to translate Chinese Darkest Dungeon mods and trust me that's not what you want
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>>563717238
The problem is that that isn’t actually feasible. There’s only so many different ways you can differentiate and create different kits for characters, so while yes they technically do have thousands of options practically it’s way less than that.
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Why is this game such a hog for space?
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>>563747982
I mean this from the bottom of my heart
Good
Fuck this gay midget character
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>>563748115
Squirrel Girl's fat ass take up too much space.
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>black cat gas really fucked up proportions
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>>563716989
>They could do an entire year of nothing but Spider-Man villains and still not leave the Marvel A-list.
very beatable but yes their options are surely not as limited as putting in all these literal whos would indicate
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>>563748115
if you think it's a big game now, wait till it has triple the maps and 200 playable characters. they got up to over 120 in Super War before it croaked. lol
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>>563707560
As usual, something gaining popularity these days is a massive double edged blade.
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>>563747105
Ah, so monitoring cds doesn't mean wait until they are on cd, and Storms ult not requiring another ult to deal with somehow means it forces ults.
Again it's always the actual shitters spouting nonsense and claiming other people are bad. Case in point you, and your delusion that you think you win the Psylocke match up at all. Which im just going to assume is bait at this point.

>POSITIONING is much ""closer""
>But you are not talking about range
This is your last (you) from me you giga retard.
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>>563748227
CRISCO BATHING
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>>563699378
I didn't think CC was that common where Rogue could do 3 seconds all by herself and after seeing all the other tanks getting fucked over it's makes it seem pointless for them to even exist now.
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>>563746284
Its on the historical record. For example worker unions were mostly broken by the boss spreading some "you dont want to be in a union with a black, do ya? Then youd have to pay dues for his benefit!" And then unions fell apart and the people were exploited. This is just a matter of fact, it is a wedge used to distract.
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>>563734714
>furry healer and dps
Wrong
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>>563734714
>furry healer and dps, now we need furry tank
Correct
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Remember to behead all /pol/iggers
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>>563748443
I'm sorry, you're just too stupid to follow. Maybe this game isnt for you, I hear Pokopia was good and maybe more your speed.
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>>563748621
>>563734714
Too human looking for furries.
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>>563748227
I want to slam my hog in her fat ass
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Why does black cat move like a geriatric giraffe?
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>>563734714
>>563748621
>>563748761
Need more cats.
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>>563749064
Her anatomy makes it difficult for her to walk normally
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>>563749064
peter went a bit too hard on those cheeks
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>>563747645
I literally emphasized that fact in my post
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>>563734714
>another Cat character
no, we need a WERWOLF GIRL!
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>>563749064
You ever been punched in the stomach so hard you gotta walk weird in order to breathe?
Well her womb is actually so desperate for Peter that it interferes with her ability to breathe and she has to walk all funny.
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I genuinely do not understand how you're supposed to play Venom. I get you dive, harass, and swing out. Actually approaching feels impossible without swinging in. If I try to wall climb to initiate a dive in I just get focused and I'm already entering the dive near half HP.
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>>563749597
>>563749460
Venom fucked that
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>>563713356
cope. she wants that BBC.
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>>563749694
No he didn't. She fucks Peter only.
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>>563749949
Peter can watch
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>>563699378
Everyone thought NetEase was kind of smart and the change only applied to hard CC like Luna's freeze and Peni's net. Turns out it applies to ALL CC including ults. Any type of displacement or slow will trigger the affect.
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>>563749460
>>563749597
Unironically the case
>>563749694
Could be true too
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>>563699378
No, people were responding to one person asking for one interaction and saying it wouldnt proc on that yesterday.
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>>563750908
slows don't, as far as I'm aware
It's stuns, displacement, and other CC like Hulk's banish
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Why does Netease want all tank players to drop the game? What's their endgame?
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Homing switching!
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>>563751135
Slows do.
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>>563751221
When that happens they can finally give strategists tank perks
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>>563751135
Slows do proc it
Incidentally, this means Peni is now a free tenacity farm and an active detriment to her team
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>>563751436
>Slows do proc it
Not at all from what I've heard
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>>563751436
Dead character if true
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>>563751436
Slows don't proc it, it's already been tested.
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>>563751536
Well it is according to what you heard now.
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>>563739302
She fucks a guy for a blender she is a whore.
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You'll still be able to farm Tenacity off of a bad Peni (most Penis) cause the stun is on a 4 second cooldown
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>>563751436
>>563751820
Slows don't proc it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mvr9uq5UWg
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Black cat moves like she is holding in a big fart.
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>>563751585
These people must have low brain activity because the men are just as skimpy most the time
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>>563752156
some people find that appealing
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>>563752156
hot
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>Miller alluded to a Puerto Rican character coming into the roster soon
>Seen retards that think it's Miles Morales or White Fox and not fucking the Hood which the devs have been expressing with the subtlety of a sledge hammer lately with the game's lore
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>13 Tanks
>26 DPS
>12 Supports
Yeah, this game is done. It's dead. Just bury it
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paying respects for the guy's hairline
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>>563752671
>one (1) prop in a map
>sledge hammer
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>>563751585
Oh no! She looks like every third woman on Instagram! But it's bad because it's in a videogame!!!
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>>563751585
>That will not think of women as people
So what's the problem
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>>563753004
>>563753019
Kill yourself incel
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>>563752815
Strategist and Vanguard players WILL play the same 2-3 viable characters in their class for 2 years to enable my fun as a superior DpsGOD and they will be grateful for the opportunity.
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>>563753298
wow, roastie mad
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>>563752845
He's also a prominent character in the current arc of the Marvel Rivals Infinity comic, mentioned in multiple lore entries, and that prop was a heavy tease from the debut trailer of Lower Manhattan.
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>>563752815
Drax is never coming out, is he?
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>>563698894
I love how Zhiyong hates me for daring to play any tank that isn't Mag or Groot
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>>563753402
Oh man I dont read all that
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>>563751585
Crazy how these people exist. Shameful.
>>563752671
>Miller
>alluded
It’s almost certainly Hood but that guy is a pussy footing faggot
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>>563752671
stfu, elbrowngian
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>>563753553
See:
>>563752671
>>563753642
That's fine. In fact his tight lipped behavior practically confirms he's a shoe-in anyway
>>563753665
I'm not that retard bro.
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>use a normal ability on someone from mid range in a huge cone
>free 300 coins, impossible to miss
>the most expensive shit in her shop is 200 coins
lol, I bet they playtested this shit as well as the cc changes
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>>563752671
yep, that's our next 4 months. Devil Dino, Cyclops, and The Hood.
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>>563754393
They always have to make the shiny new toy a broken piece of shit for the first few months before they start micronerfing
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>>563753402
Marco Diaz?
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>>563754467
Moon Girl (Vanguard) in 8.0, Cyclops (Duelist) in 8.5, The Hood (Strategist) in 9.0 and Captain Marvel (Duelist) in 9.5.
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>Overwatch players complain their latest hero is underkitted
>Rivals players complain their latest hero is overkitted
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>>563754684
We saw it the first time doofus
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>>563754767
Look I know we all say faggot here but you need to cool it with the language
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what's the point of CC ults now?
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>>563753298
There are a lot of women more attractive than you and videogames, movies, TV, comics, etc are going to reflect that whether you like it or not.
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>>563755014
None, they don't work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzaWTrnV4PA
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>the chinks are so cheap and starting to penny pinch the newest emojis are all ai slop

kek, the moneytrain must've slowed
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>>563755112
Wait until you find out that the character models also use AI slop
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>>563755093
Anyone seeing these CC changes and still thinking Zhiyong isn't incompetent needs to get off the internet.
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>>563755112
You want monthly content drops? This is how you get them
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>>563753402
I find if curious that most characters are already established, but Hood's origin is happening in-lore.
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>>563755937
Isn't it kind of the same with Daredevil?
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>>563754539
>both brown twink faggots
It makes sense…
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>>563756008
DD got new powers in lore, but his whole career as DD still happened before that. Hood's just some random crook at this point.
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>>563754467
>>563754672
>here’s your pile of trash bro enjoy
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>>563756221
you're the faggot. marco is a harem protagonist.
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So would it be safe to say they should put the Tenacity patch on ice indefinitely until they can ensure it's functionality? Because it sounds like the trickle down effect of negating CC is having further reaching effects than anticipated...
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>>563757193
Yes. But patch drops later today and they still haven't announced anything.
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>>563756527
Princess Marco is a thing. Cope Juanita.
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>>563755112
Grim. The soul is gone. Then again, there were signs with stuff like Rogue’s fingers being extra long here. >>563701091
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>>563749180
Batgirl is dc.
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Might be time to finally pick this character up
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563749804
why are indians like this
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>>563721134
So they’re baiting ‘roons? Kinda funny
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>>563712551
Vanguard treatment
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If I was Spidey I'd flush MJ down the toilet so fucking fast
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>>563718119
Made for milking whites
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>>563758505
Bitch is constantly hunched over like a gremlin and runs like she's holding in a shit.
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>>563747542
That's how you know retards don't understand the objective of the game: space.

>One tank means one tank has to block all that damage instead of it being more evenly distributed between two tanks one tank makes it harder to make space
>double or triple supports will have a harder time getting their ults quick enough because tanks have the most health and the more supports heal the faster they get their ults
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>>563757987
What's the point of using an apostrophe to remove one letter
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The fact of the matter is that the problem wasn't strictly that tanks getting CC'd constantly meant we needed a system to negate CCs. The problem is that so many fucking teams have one tank who is a sitting duck target to get CCed to death with nobody else to pick up the slack or soak up some of those stuns themselves
Like nearly everything wrong with this game, it comes back to the fact that it needs role queue.
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>>563759412
The fact is hero shooter players are just pissbabies who need to just get over the fact that you get CCd sometimes and stop bitching about it already.
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>>563737486
Edward is so lucky
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>>563738402
No that’s cyclops job
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>>563758505
SpiderCat fans are in a small renissance right now, meanwhile MJ fans have been in the gutter for genuinely a decade. She pretty recently just shook the albatross around her neck known as Paul but they've still got her plodding around as fucking Venom.
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>>563741509
Delete Thor’s semen supply maybe.
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>>563759412
Role queue fucking sucks dick and it sounds like you're a expert in dick sucking.
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>>563748115
Because they keep bloating the game with silly nonsense and are allergic to taking a minute to optimize it
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>>563749647
You dive from walls and high places.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNPsrNNveDA
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>>563759412
>The fact of the matter is that the problem wasn't strictly that tanks getting CC'd constantly meant we needed a system to negate CCs.
Correct.
>The problem is that so many fucking teams have one tank who is a sitting duck target to get CCed to death with nobody else to pick up the slack or soak up some of those stuns themselves
Wrong. The bigger underlying issue is that too many heroes have completely unnecessary CC abilities tacked onto their kits
A better fix would've been to straight up remove several instances of CC from the game. Yes this would also the nerf the affected heroes. No they should not gain any other buffs as compensation
There issue solved
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>>563758505
>chooses slut over day 1 bae

yea you will never be hero peter parker
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>>563751585
i've seen like 3 people doing the whole "uhmm this is actually like so bad you guys" shtick and they're all OW accounts
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>>563760675
they are both canon whores
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>>563757786
>old heroes
>tiny minuscule 0.2s buffs
>new hotness
>does twelve different things that already exists
>safe escapes at all times
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>>563757808
when you look like Myron irl, you would larp as a black too.
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>>563759412
people already don't want to fill as tank. Why do you think they would want to role queue as tank huh retard?
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>>563751585
>why is she bent like that?
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>>563761593
imagine being threatened by a videogame charater bitches are stupid man
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>>563761740
All women have to offer men are their bodies.
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>>563761740
women feel threatened by sex dolls there was a study on this years back imagine if men felt threatened by dildos lol
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>>563761740
Then they will be the first ones buying swimsuit skins and yellow thongs for the only female characters they play...
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>>563761527
That's the beauty of it, nobody will have to fill with role queue because everyone will get to play the role they wanted to from the start!
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>>563761740
Yeah imagine seeing a video game charcater and getting mad about it. Like a brown one or something. Couldnt be you, right?
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>>563751585
we get ONE popular game with hot babes after a decade of censored shit that caters to them and they still seethe relentlessly
let us have a single game damn
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https://files.catbox.moe/i5d7rp.jpg
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>Elsa ult dead with CC changes
>4 second dash
>Damage nerfs across the board
Can I at least get back losing 1 instinct per death. Even Daredevil and Jean didn’t get hit this hard
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>>563762803
She deserves even more nerfs
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>season where dive is hugely buffed
>the go-to anti-dive tank is fundamentally broken because of Zhiyong's retarded shit
lmao this is going to be fun
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Fuck it im spamming Mag in ranked until Im Diamond
See you all on the other side
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>>563762935
We’re going to end up with another “support strike”
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>>563762427
>>563761740
You’re already causing some fume take it easy please
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>>563763017
Not much. It’s also shamefully lacking in /ll/. Pretty disappointing.
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Sex with Ami Han
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>>563761593
>this kills the white woman
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>>563763873
Is this an irl red room, wtf
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>Actually a maid skin for a girl
>It's an Elsa skin

Cool...I guess..
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>>563762024
still doesn't change the fact that nobody wants to play tank and it would take 50 minutes to find a game.
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>>563763873
only the barefoot ones will get a green card
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>People ask for CC changes because people cannot play brawlers or divers with the amount of CC they receive
>Make CC changes
>It ends up killing Hulk, Rogue, Thing, etc instead
HOW DO YOU FUCK UP THIS HARD?
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>Retards continuously throw games by trying to 1v6 and getting mauled to death over and over
>They go online and complain about ‘muh CC Rivals’
>CC gets nerfed to shit, turns out it’s actually integral to several characters and their playstyles
Behold the power of community feedback
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>>563764075
will she shake her ass?
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>>563764306
I don’t care about rogue/hulk getting fucked but fucking over thing is bad for the game
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>>563761740
>>563761817
>>563761986
Kill yourself incel
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>>563698894
>Another Psylocke legendary
Why do they keep doing this when I never see her anymore?
>Hellfire Gala voting event
So another girl as I sure as hell will never expect a guy to win unless it's Jeff.
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>>563764389
She'll do a curtsy bow and show you her ankle.
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>>563764306
You already posted this and we already know Hulk isn't dead
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Bucky bros how are we feeling with these changes?
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>>563765123
better than cap atleast
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>>563765310
Cap is better than he’s ever been, and getting a busted permateamup soon?
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>>563765123
Not really a buckybro but I'm thinking of trying him out when the patch hits, since I cant fucking play Rogue anymore after this...
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Why didn’t the devs not just give an anti CC passive to the tanks, instead of a global change. Something like stuns have a shorter duration and knockback effects from squishies being straight up ignored. Would be a much cleaner implementation, and would have a less presumably unintended consequence. What type of devs lets shit like this go through, when it makes an simple ult like wolverine’s immediately worthless?
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The only real loser of this patch is Rogue since her normal combo just bricks
Everything else is just shitposting
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>>563765448
His shield push on ult is broken though
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>>563765658
You dumbfucks who say this always forget this is a team game, not a 1v1. Everyone is throwing out CC all the time. At any point you could go for your combo and have it just not fucking work because an ally Peni shot a web at them earlier or something. Setting up your teammates is legitimately a detriment to them now.
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>>563765658
Thing's entire kit has CC and his ult fails to proc with the charge. You're basically feeding tenacity to enemy divers and can't even stop them like before anymore.

Also Wolverine's ult doesn't proc either if you use it on characters who have some minimal cc.
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>>563765658
I’m ok with this getting fucked because this is not fighting game
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>>563765854
>Everyone is throwing out CC all the time
Everyone is throwing out CC all the time because there's no reason not to
Now people are encouraged to save their abilities for when they'll have the most impact so you don't feed the opponents Tenacity
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>>563765854
how the hell am I gonna keep track of someone else CC meter?No way they are letting this through its gonna be gone by sunday
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>>563764235
For dps shitters, maybe
Tank queue would be nice and snappy though~
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>>563765969
you sound like a faggot who does nothing but launch projectiles from as far away as possible and hope everyone else does the real work
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>>563766063
>Now people are encouraged to save their abilities
They aren't because 90% of CC in this game is embedded in other abilities and you're largely decreasing your own dps if you choose not to use it.
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>>563765854
>Bucky grounds a flier
>goes for the hook
>ally Penny thinks "Oh nice down, let me web them so you can finish the kill!"
>because of that extra CC, when the hook connects it procs the cleanse
>enemy that should have been an easy kill walks out for free because your TEAMMATE worked as a TEAM to help you
I might actually stop playing this game if this happens to me. What the fuck were they thinking.
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>>563763873
>>563764389
>>563764547
but that’s haram…
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>>563766170
Go back to Tekken homo
That shit doesn’t belong in a hero shooter
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>>563766063
I hope you die due to a white fox not using her tail ability to heal you for fear of building CC immunity on everyone she charms while she does it. If you think this is an acceptable way to play the game you're a fucking retard.
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>>563766063
Standing in peni webs and invis orb is now a good idea
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>>563766063
O yeah, Thing, Mag, and Phoenixes are totally going to stop right clicking now not to micro CC to enemies. Elsas will stop using their E that also gives them bonus HP, and Bucky won't use any abilities besides left click. It's a whole new world.
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>>563766518
In that case I'd die no matter what cause if my White Fox is using tails for her right click she's throwing
You should be using tails to Awaken and brawl/dive. White Fox's neutral is crap.
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>>563766645
>play thing
>use cripple puddle to clear a space
>enemies all pile into it to build their meter instead of clearing away from it
They have to revert this, right? This wont go live... right?
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>>563766819
Thing is done.
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>>563766754
Dont fucking talk to me, dumbass.
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>>563766934
Guhhhhhh
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>>563765123
the ult is probably broken again
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>>563766254
I FREAKING LOVE HAREMS
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>>563766934
Dear lord
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>>563761740
people on this site feel threatened by black characters all the time
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I have anger.
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>>563768023
Fetch me a beer, mantis
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>>563763013
Instead of the tank strike. Pottery.
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>>563754672
>Captain Marvel (Duelist)
blow your shit smoove off, pal.
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>>563768573
We're probably getting both actually
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>>563765969
>*Tekken combos you*
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>>563724337
You can set seperate keys for them. RIP controller tards.
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How do we fix fliers in this game? They suck outside ironman’s uni beam.
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>>563769963
You don't. Zhiyong doesn't like fliers.
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>>563762803
>Elsa ult dead
Huh? Doesn’t have a super special unique effect that ignores CC immunity?
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>anti CC should be a tank's thing only
>The mini CC purges need to go
>small boops like Rogue's shouldn't count as CC

There I fixed it. Shit is needlessly complicated. A plat diminishing return would be enough, mini boop would still work as it should but longer CC like bucky's hook, luna's freeze would be less annoying
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>>563769963
I think we should add a duelist who has an ability with no cooldown and a super cheap gold cost that instantly downs and traps fliers
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>>563761740
“People” on this site feel threatened by white people all the time
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Every single dive DPS deserves a nerf
Yes even Black Panther and Iron Fist
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I think you fellas(?) are overreacting to be quite honest
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>>563770454
Rogue literally can't do her basic combo
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Send me that black gooey faggot, the changes don't scare me
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>>563758617
hot
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>>563770126
I am guessing it doesn’t count as a “cinematic” CC like hulk grab
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>>563770564
Maybe she needs a combo that isn't mini-stun spam
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>>563771206
Then they need to address that in the same patch, not break characters and leave.
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>CC buildup erases Spiderman's ult webbing and makes him unable to use his pull on enemies
LMAOOOOOOOO SPIDEYKEKS ETERNALLY BTFO
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>>563771669
Excellent.
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>>563771669
GOOD
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>>563771669
It should never have been in the game to begin with
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Truly gacha was a mistake
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>>563772497
How many pulls? I got my fagpool on 2
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>>563772497
I got deadpool in 2 and Psy in 2
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Characters severely fucked by CC changes so far:
>Rogue, Spiderkek, Thing
Characters moderately fucked by CC changes so far:
>Hulk, Strange, Angela, Wolverine, Scarlet Witch
Characters mildly fucked by CC changes so far:
>Thor, Cap, Peni, Emma, Mag, Elsa

It's not that bad all things considered.
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>>563746119
I say it
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Wait bucky losing earthbound was a buff, since it limits the amount CC effects he puts out. So instead of hook and uppercut having 5 CC effects, now it does 4 only
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>>563773805
Bucky will finally make it to the top of the tier list
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>>563772497
Yet you people keep buying into it. I learned my lesson with the Psylocke event even though I got the skin and everything. Happened bought anything from a Gacha event since.

Also I still can't believe Dazzler wasn't added for a Disco season in 6.
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Why THE FUCK is Iron Fist CC immune?
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>>563774519
He isn't, unless he's blocking.
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>>563774310
>Yet you people keep buying into it.
Well no I haven't (here) but moreso I meant the side effects on this place
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I don't think we're getting an emergency pre-patch at this point.
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>>563774519
Perfect guard.
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>>563774708
Not that anyone here cares, but isn't this going to massively fuck up their esports matches this weekend?
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I want to lick Felicia's taint
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so given that Netease have a retarded refusal to ever back down from a bad idea what do you think will be Netease's solution to this new debacle
will they just remove all the CC from Rogues Kit? will they change how Things charge works?
i do wonder what retarded workaround they will cook up to avoid just undoing the Tenacity stuff
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>thing, rogue, and spidercucks nerfed to d tier
this is a good patch
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>>563775012
Zhitong lost his hairline concoting the tenacity system, they're not going back on it.
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>>563774519
Learn to read
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Imagine if it was White Black and Cat Fox
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I hope the rerun for the first summer skins isn't this year, I wanna feel special for a bit longer...
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>>563775272
this skin is trash compared to sue and mantis doe
kasane teto or bust
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>>563775272
I hope you lose the key to your cage, gayboy
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LOL
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>>563701254
Everyone is posting clips with rogue juggle into emma choke with the caption "cc rivals", the implication being that chain cc make the game too annoying if its directed at a single person. They designed the patch for all the "cc rivals" complainers.
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>could've gave Mantis an undercover skin in the upcoming minipass where she's a botonist or something like that and have it still be free as a good incentive to buy the pass
>instead just make a shitty black and gold recolor of her default skin that looks wildly out of place
Bravo Netease, masterful work
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>>563774891
Women dont have taints.
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>>563776721
"Shocks me to my core" is something that only people who are trying to act offended to mock someone says. This is a bait account and you fell for it.
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Thing won't save you from my dive this time.
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>>563776721
>she loves the attention so much she had to also post it on reddit for further attention
They literally can't break the cycle.
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>>563776721
that's a cnd champ
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>>563775552
I wish it looked like Teto
>>563775086
Kek
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>>563776721
>getting targeted coms
Usually that only happens when you’re playing like shit.
She should stop being dogshit
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Black Cat is so fucking overtuned it's retarded
>2 charge dash
>double jump on no cd and wallclimb
>superdash attack that makes you invulerable even on whiff
>can throw out aoe team wallhack item
>remove cc, even when cc'd item
>a portal that travels through all geo item
>grounding and movement ability aoe field item
>5s cd 300 coin steal ranged attack that gives 50 bonus hp
>all items can be spammed on no cooldown so long as you have coins
>ult marks all enemies on the map with wallhack, 60 meter teleport to enemy range with 100dmg followup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH3qYbtjz-Y
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>>563774310
Dazzler had her spot taken by Luna dude time to make peace with it
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>>563778103
>Black Cat is so fucking overtuned it's retarded
Yeah she's a dive DPS we know
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>>563776721
>everyone falling for this
Pic is same user. This harassment never happened, they just want to roleplay online as someone who passes well enough to get harassed. "Teehee these silly boys keep telling me to get in the kitchen! They think I'm a woman hehehe my voice training must be going really well" type shit.
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>>563742715
Her ult lasts 5 seconds and lets you fast travel before activating it. What servers are you in that are actually killing her in her ult? (Except for countering with Pheonix Ult)

>>563741854
Wow, her ult isn't a press q to win button, but its still possible to win if you use your brain! Clearly this is weak character design
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>>563775012
I think they'll just nix the Tenacity system for a season or two and force some schlep to go through the game and meticulously catalog EVERY instance of CC in the game so that Tenacity only builds and procs on HARD CCs.
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>>563778103
one day i will get a main Tank with the bullshit complexity of new heros
one day and it will be glorious and will be worth waiting through the several dozen useless offtanks they churned out
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>>563778372
Bold of you to assume Zhiyong would go through the trouble of doing all that work.
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>>563778453
Tankpool exists?
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Imagine if Wolverine were released today bros.

>passive healing factor at all times, just constantly healing like 7hp per second acting not only as a self-heal but as damage negation
>bleed stacking mechanic dealing lasting damage to enemies
>wall climbs
>leap hitbox that's actually functional
>two dash charges
>rage meter builds and lasts permanently until death
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>>563778203
go back
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>>563778551
Don't worry, Sabertooth will get all of that and more, then mog him in-game.
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>>563778551
also every single claw swipe applies grounded, earthbound, slow or anti-heal at random
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>>563775012
As usual, Zhiyong will just do some minor number adjustments, plebbit will call him based and that's the end of it despite nothing being fixed.
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>>563778551
They didnt give that healing factor to Deadpool so that's a flub. The rest of this probably wouldnt happened except the two dash charges.
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>>563778551
>leap hitbox that's actually functional
Just aim at the floor when you do it
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>>563778508
not a main Tank
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Terms like Main Tank and Off Tank have been co-opted by Tankfags (a distinct group from Tank Players) to whine about being """"""""""Forced"""""""""" to play Magneto
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Apparently, Thing's ultimate wont work if he stuns you with the slam before hand? holy lul bro

I think this is definitive proof that they dont play the game and if they do they play like 3 characters at most.
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>>563778863
There is no such thing as a "main tank" in this game. You can have two "off tanks" and play just fine.
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>most tank ults and kits gutted by CC change
>Venom basically untouched since his only CC is just the dive on people bounce and Ult chomp but they're incidental
>benefits from Tenacity because he tanks so much damage and CC with his overshield
I mean I'm happy because I like playing Venom but holy cow bros, did they really have to go and do every other tank like that. They even nerfed Tankpool.

I'm still mad they won't give me the MVC Venom outfit.
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Imma be honest with you family I just think Vanguards are cool
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>>563778842
>Just aim at the floor when you do it

The trick is just to touch the enemy with your body, so long as Wolverine's body is touching the enemy, you can grab them, even with your back to them.
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>>563779086
Probably the best season to play Venom now.
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>>563779086
Venom will be really good now. I can guarantee you that there will be rioting on the sub-reddit by the end of week one when Dive comps completely shit on everyone who was used to stun spamming you down to 100 HP.
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>>563778708
Are you retarded or what
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>>563779019
>I think this is definitive proof that they dont play the game and if they do they play like 3 characters at most.

The entire point of this "fix" is so Zhiyong and his team wouldn't have to manually look at and tweak CC for heroes, but as a catch-all solution. They just wanted to do 1 thing and never have to think about it again.
While that is retarded in and of itself, the real problem is is the design for the tenacity system is just stupid.
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>>563778282
No one chooses storm at all and play regular picks like hela and punisher in my server
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>>563779713
She's not a common pick and I'm basically the only one on either team playing her in every game, but that doesn't mean anything about how good she is.
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I told people punisher was broken like a month ago when he became a crutch pick in every lobby i played in
I even started banning him as much as i can

you unironically canoot play
groot, thor, thing, hulk, venom, strange, rogue, emma, peni against punisher because he will just nuke your shield and hp down so quickly now

and the funny part is that the only viable tank is magneto because he completely shutsdown his ultimate. so this whole game hinges on whether you rolled cracked dps who diff the other punisher or you got a magneto that will always brutally ult a punisher out of their own ult. Ill give it like a couple more months before the average player starts bitching about punisher.
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>>563779086
He will never die now
absolute raid boss
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>>563778103
Black Widow's entire kit is that she can run faster for a few seconds and kick people btw
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>>563779971
>this whole game hinges on whether you rolled cracked dps who diff the other
That's all of Marvel Rivals
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>>563764290
After 1 hour of tickling.
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>>563779971
>you unironically canoot play
groot, thor, thing, hulk, venom, strange, rogue, emma, peni against punisher because he will just nuke your shield and hp down so quickly now


good now they should let dive comps do the same
duelist should punish tanks
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Please Zhiyong it's been so many seasons just give Mag a slightly better feeling M1...
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>>563780361
>tanks
>having fun
ABSORUTERY NOT
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>>563776721
Incels can't fuck women, so they harass them.
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>>563778103
Meanwhile heroes like Scarlet Witch, which has also been trash since launch.
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>>563780128
na thats not even remotely true
ive seen a lot of teams come back from bleak losses by simply playing counters and adjusting to team compositions, its just that this doesn't happen anymore because players especially supports only see the diff and resign themselves to a loss if you dont get the hela going 20+ final hits.
I have literally won games where 1 or 2 players were negative, and the enemy team cracked out kill after kill.
Punisher is one of the few characters in this game who can bruteforce a win because he gets most of his value holding left click on every tank and his ultimate completely counters most of the support roaster if not all of them
He gets immunity to cc when he drops the turret and in his own ult
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>>563780647
Onegai... Not even more damage or speed... Just make it feel better...
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>>563779327
It's going to be hell, especially if Black Cat turns out to be another busted dps character. Thing is potentially broken and they already set up the meta to favor dive this season, and there aren't many other good counter options that aren't also fucked to some degree. People will try to push triple duelist comps because everyone will want to play with the new shiny toy also. Patch drops in like 10 hours and we haven't heard anything about them going back on this, so it's unlikely to happen before next week if at all.

It will probably get fixed at some point, but I'm more concerned about the loud majority of supports hijacking the narrative and pushing netease into going back to the previous snoozefest meta.
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>>563780663
easily fix like they did jeff make her missiles primary and the suck a skill that provides over shield
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>>563780973
>loud minority
I'm retarded.
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>>563778734
Unlikely
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>>563780339
Are you literally retarded?
the best characters in the game are duelists because they have too much self-sustain, damage, and chain stunning. This is literally why every match devolves into the same 10 characters being played across both teams

I've seen champion psylockes, black panthers, magiks, fantastic players fold straight into playing phoenix, punisher, hela, bucky, namor because they know they're not going to beat a good one unless they play it themselves.
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>>563780663
>>563780036
Is this the new metric for what makes a strong character? Is Cap the best tank in the game because he has so many buttons?
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>>563778103
all the blaggat players were getting shit on during the preview stream though
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>>563781636
I mean, going by tournaments and the sheer volume of nerfs Cap has got to be the best Vanguard in the game alongside Venom
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>>563781421
Are you crying that the role who purpose is to kill
is killing things effectively? Maybe tankfags need another universal nerf
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>>563781770
Tournaments don't represent well what actually works on pick up groups.
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>>563781792
should you be able to kill things? yeah
should you be able to 1v1 a literal tank who has triple-quadruple your health? no.
I think your team-oriented game should be reliant on people working together.

this game is designed way too hard for rambo players and like i said
its so bad right now that you only see the same dps, tanks, and healers because guess what?
they're all suffocating the rest of the roaster
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>>563781770
Well let's compare new heros to launch heros and see. Cap is a launch heros and he runs out of space on his button like to show them all, and Angela is a newer hero and she uhh... She has one button, two if you count the shield. Man I hate how all the new characters are so complicated!
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>>563782083
The overdesigned kit issue only began with Daredevil.
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>>563782010
>claims to be team oriented game
>why cant muh tank 1v1 a DUELIST?

dude luna adam and jeff can 1v1 most tanks and you saying DUELISTS Shouldn't?
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>>563782010
>yes I want Rivals GOATS Meta I want Tanks to be better DPS yes that's what I want I do declare
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>>563782010
just pick thor
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>>563782374
Yeah lets not pretend that most people here aren't aware of how OP luna is
everyone jokes about it here all the time

jeff and adam? LOL. Dude, if you are losing 1v1s to jeff and adam right now then you are just shit as the fucking game holy crap.
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>>563781636
>Is this the new metric for what makes a strong character? Is Cap the best tank in the game because he has so many buttons?

Strong utility and lots of strong options does make a hero better. Unless you think things like team wallhacks and teleporting through geo and tons of other stuff on normal abilities isn't strong.
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>>563782497
Yeah. It's not possible to balance the game around open team composition.
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>>563782497
>>yes I want Rivals GOATS Meta I want Tanks to be better DPS yes that's what I want I do declare
Currently DPS are better tanks while tanks in this game are just bad DPS with low damage and big hp pools.
Tanks in this game aren't even tanks.
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>>563782738
Except its not a normal ability
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>>563782872
>Tanks in this game aren't even tanks.
Battlecry of the nogames
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>>563782918
Yes it is, it's not an ult. You get money from dealing damage and you have a 5 second cooldown ranged ability which gives you 300 money. The wallhack costs 100.
In terms of costing resources, this is literally nothing.
White Fox and other heroes have a slow resource charge and then spends 33% of max for an ability on a 6s cooldown, that is far more restrictive.
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I think Metallic Curtain should charge the mag cannon
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>>563783079
How is Captain America a "tank"?
What do you think a tank is in games like this? What are they supposed to do? What do they need to have in their kits?
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>>563783396
>What do they need to have in their kits?
A lot of HP
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>>563783396
lmao
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Unpopular opinion, Vanguard doesn't equate to Tank and trying to pigeonhole them in the role is stupid
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>>563751585
>woman known for being hot and seductive in the comics is hot and seductive ingame
wow who would've thought
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>>563783274
It's not, and I'm getting into this with someone who doesn't get that.
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>>563776721
She's right you know.
Gold plat have large numbers of egotistical kids and manchilds for whatever reason.
My account was deranked cuz i didn't play for awhile. Time to time i met obvious smurfs on other team and they destroyed mine. What did my team do? They spent time of type insults at each others without realizing they got hard smurfed.

There is no point paying attention to these people. They are unredeemable.
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>>563783682
>A lot of HP
Wrong
>>563783701
Concession accepted, you have no idea what a tank is.
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>>563783396
Cap makes space by pulling enemy aggro away from his team, and can stall point if needed. That’s a tank
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>>563783682
White fox is a better tank than rogue right now
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>>563783983
lmfao
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>>563783850
>It's not, and I'm getting into this with someone who doesn't get that.
And yet your dumbass can't even say what is and you're so immature and close-minded you will now deflect instead, because you know you're wrong. Go ahead and prove me right.
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>>563784059
>Cap makes space by pulling enemy aggro away from his team, and can stall point if needed. That’s a tank
This is literally what any diver or flanker can do. So Daredevil or Iron Fist are tanks then. You have no fucking clue what a tank is or what they're supposed to do. Are you Zhiyong? Would explain why tanks are so shit and not even tanks in this game.
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>>563783718
>tank = draws aggro
>vanguard = big HP

>dps = chips DMG
>duelist = 1v1

>supp = sustains
>strategist = plans
Is one meant for PvE and the other is meant for PvP? Because that explains the powercreeps, there is no permanent PvE.
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Oh yeah they are definitely nerfing black cats econ, after getting bank from her. It has to be intentional
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>>563783983
There is no tank role in this game. It's a vanguard role.
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>>563779086
Playing venom with random strangers is an cucked experience.
So it's even out.
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>>563784259
>This is literally what any diver or flanker can do
Off course, even a hitscan like hela can do it. The difference is having a larger health pool means someone like cap can do it for longer and much more effectively
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>vanguard = create spaces
>but any divers can do it
Try play full dps divers comp then ,retard.
The reason you can dive effectively because oppo team is busy shooting your tanks which leave space for you to dive. If they all look for you, good luck getting value
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>>563784965
>Off course, even a hitscan like hela can do it. The difference is having a larger health pool means someone like cap can do it for longer and much more effectively
Except that's wrong. Daredevil is much better at it than Cap and puts on stronger pressure. DD has better sustain, better damage, better cc, damage resist, etc.
Ffs, DD is even better as a tank defensively because of his sustain, deflect, ability to pull enemies away from allies and more.

What makes for a good tank and what tanks are supposed to do
>be very survivable, this is not a larger healthpool but also having things like self heal/sustain
>have strong cc as ways to control the battlefield or protect allies
>have ways to protect allies well, be it with barriers, shields, a huge body to block shots with, etc
>have a threat zone enemies respect, which can be used to push and zone enemies away, roadhog is the easiest to understand example because of his hook
>have good team utility, generally through buffs or similar
Tanks are not just heroes with bigger hp pools.

Cap is nothing but a shitty low damage dive DPS with a bit larger base hp pool, that's it.
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>>563784549
Right thats why everyone tells tank players to switch to mag and strange all the time because there is no tank roles in the game
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>>563785684
>this busted character that was released with an overdesigned kit can do things other roles can
No way
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>>563786132
Ah I see it's like the Spider-Man comic Spider-Man: One More Day
I see what you did there, anon. That was funny and clever of you.
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>>563786149
Maybe it's time you woke up and realized that Cap is not a tank and the think you do can be done better by multiple dps heroes. Better at diving, better at tanking, despite being DPS.

The tank design in this game is fucking terrible. But that's a surprise to no one with how insanely bad at design their designers are. Look no further than the Tenacity CC system.
The reason why heroes like Mag and Strange are consistently top picks and why everyone always wants them, is because they are the closest this game has to actual tanks.

A Tank like Makoa from Paladins had a big deployable bubble barrier, a hook as cc to pull enemies into their team or away from their allies, a knockback dash to disrupt or knock away enemies. That's infinitely better than Cap at "tanking".
Overwatch has a hero like Sigma, which can place a barrier, absorb ranged fire and turn it into bonus hp and throw a ranged stun. Infinitely better as a tank than Cap.
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You know that's a lot of words to say "I don't play Tank. In fact I don't play Marvel Rivals at all."
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TTK going crazy with tankpool on a controller
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>a tank should just be a worse DPS with more Health
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>>563787332
Thank you for the free prediction blue creds 100T
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No one is going to put up being tank this season, or any future season until shit is fixed. Expect 4 DPS
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>>563788304
Stop whining and switch to Mag
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>>563788427
lol
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>>563788304
Stop whining and just don't play Rogue
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>>563786132
>Large areola
The thinking man's fetish.
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>>563788304
I'm reinstalling the game just to see how badly my main got screwed over.
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>>563758791
It’s a long story…
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>>563785684
>DD has better sustain, better damage, better cc, damage resist, etc.
Ffs, DD is even better as a tank defensively because of his sustain, deflect, ability to pull enemies away from allies and more.
DD doesn’t have infinite mobility, a high HP pool with no strengths attached and a shield. DD will have more effective downtime, and is centered around getting picks. His kit could work as a tank conceptually, but his numbers are not good enough for it to work in reality, besides as a niche 1v1 specialist off tank like thor, who dwells in flanks and marks the DPS.
>be very survivable
Some of your survivability was traded for the support high healing output. Is what it is.
>have strong cc as ways to control the battlefield or protect allies
They do
>have ways to protect allies well, be it with barriers, shields, a huge body to block shots with, etc
That is the case
>have a threat zone
They do, although you probably believe it is simply just not a strong enough threat.
>have good team utility, generally through buffs or similar
That already exists in some form though, like damage resists, vulnerability, overshield generation to allies, slows and the like. If you feel like your damage is piss poor, nothing seems to die and seemingly randomly your survivability dips and skyrockets, blame the core support design
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>>563788304
Imagine going for suicide strange ult, just for their whole team to be CC cleansed with no gambit in sight. Fucking lol
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>>563789920
Your fault for not switching to Mag.
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>>563782374
Jeff will technically win a 1v1 against a tank... given 30s of no help to the tank by just chip damage+selfheal. Even longer if they have a shield. Luna cannot 1v1 a tank.
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They should just remove ranked mode from the game
End the shitty comp scene too, no one gives a fuck about that
Just accept the game as skin collector like fortnite and focus on side game modes
Its not like it will ever be close to balanced anyway
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>shield tank (strange, magneto)
>dive tank (cap, venom)
>ambush tank (angela)
>frontline brawler tank (rogue, hulk)
>stupid corny piece of shit tank (peni)
theres lots of kinds of tanks, and they each have a different role, which is why its important to not make me the fucking solo tank again for the 100th consecutive match. i wonder what kinda tank the dinosaur will be
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>>563788427
Fix your boring ass hit marker first
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>>563778103
I remember getting called retarded in these threads back in seasons 0-2 for saying we should get heroes like Ant-Man, Wasp, Vision, Nimrod, or Abomination and faggots in this thread would tell me they wouldn't be unique enough in gameplay or that they didn't have enough powers to make a kit out of.

Now we have a literal regular woman who is nothing more than a burglar with the most complicated and ability heavy kit in the game using magic items that she normally never uses and basically apes black panthers style of play.

It's also hilarious that every new season keeps further proving the "This game is tailor made to the Chinese and uses Marvel as nothing more than some shitty brand to draw in non Asian players" idea more and more true. Our heroes this season are another asian woman with like 3 total comic appearances and the sex appeal love interest of Spider-Man wearing skimpy ass outfits.
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None of the tanks are good save for 3: Strange, Mag, and Venom. Wow, great job NetEase
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>>563781792
>Hulk is a melee character that can only deal damage up close and has a large HP pool
>Bucky is a hitscan character that can deal damage at range and has a standard HP pool

>Clearly Hulk should lose a 1v1 in melee range to the guy who can deal damage at any range
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>>563790889
>This game is tailor made to the Chinese
Its not tho, its just that its easy to make sexy asian women to attract gooners and women (main targets of this game)
The game itself is dead in asia, no one cares about it there because they are very competitive and the game is a joke in that regard
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>>563790889
>I remember getting called retarded in these threads back in seasons 0-2 for saying we should get heroes like Ant-Man, Wasp, Vision, Nimrod, or Abomination and faggots in this thread would tell me they wouldn't be unique enough in gameplay or that they didn't have enough powers to make a kit out of.
niggas in this thread just live to hate on shit. you can ask for practically any hero and you'll get called a faggot. it just happened to a Dazzler fan like 20 posts ago. "her spot got taken by Luna, make peace with it" or some shit.
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>>563791148
yes you are a meatshield...if vanguards were meant to kill, mag and strange wouldn't have limited range on their shots,melee tanks are harassers nothing more
Now get yo fat ass in the front and charge my ult fatty
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>>563791461
Why is bucket head making his penis glow?
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>>563791461
If you read it instead of bleeding wildly out of your mangina and got over your victim complex, there was no one “being called a faggot”, just a fact being stated. This is an insult.
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>>563791212
Yeah but
>Luna Snow (Literally made for a videogame)
>White Fox (Literal who more than anyone else in this game except Luna)
>Lin Lie instead of Danny (Only briefly holding on to the mantle and has his own identity as swordmaster)
>Evidence suggest Hulk was going to be Amadeus Cho not Banner (beta screenshots prove Amadeus was going to be playable)
>I remember people also saying that Storm was originally Aero
>The insane amount of original Asian themed skins
>Daredevils base outfit was made to look asian

Just because they failed to actually corner a market doesn't mean they desperately tried.
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>>563791212
More like they cant run the game on their toasters PC and mobile
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>>563790605
I do agree generally but some of them are sort of multirole and can be played multiple ways depending on the situation.
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>>563790889
>I remember getting called retarded in these threads back in seasons 0-2 for saying we should get heroes like Ant-Man, Wasp, Vision, Nimrod, or Abomination and faggots in this thread would tell me they wouldn't be unique enough in gameplay or that they didn't have enough powers to make a kit out of.
And that was valid back then. Those people assumed that the Chinese would have a lick of sense and competent game design and thematic coherency in their brains to not do what they’re doing now. Unfortunately, that’s the polar opposite of the case, and the bad game design choices continue to mount. At this point, even if you do get those characters, you’ll be very lucky if their kit isn’t a lame copy and pasted mish mash of nonsense from other characters kits.
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>>563791809
>Evidence suggest Hulk was going to be Amadeus Cho not Banner
That would have been extremely retarded
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>>563791784
Hes not wrong though people in this thread shoot down any fucking ideas or wishful thinking even though this game basically blew its own foot off and anything would be better at this point.

Remember when we had 300k players concurrentlly as an average for a few months? Remember when the norm was above 150k daily for months on end?
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>>563790605
>super OP chad choice tank


eat mah ass bitch
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>>563791809
>>Evidence suggest Hulk was going to be Amadeus Cho not Banner (beta screenshots prove Amadeus was going to be playable)
post your evidence because the very early screenshots I have seen very clearly show Bruce Banner by name, and I have never seen Amadeus CHo once
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>>563792106
I could see that as valid for someone like Ant-Man or Abomination but Nimrod and Vision have an insane amount of room to work with ability set wise for Tanks and Wasp had room to work to be a healer considering we already have healers with small hitboxes and she canonically sprouts her wings at 5 feet tall which is still much taller than Jeff or Rocket.
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>>563792038
of course, i just posted that to point out that saying there are only main and off tanks is absurd. angela alone switches between multiple roles in just a few minutes if played well, and i can only imagine how wacky and convoluted some later tanks might be. then again, the chinamen hate all tanks and everyone who plays them so maybe they will stay simple and underpowered
>>563792259
>calls himself a tank "chad"
>hides behind everyone else and chucks bombs from the safety of his teams anus, praying no one can aim at his nests
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>>563791809
There's also Peni Parker. Also it's kind of weird that we still don't have a single Latino character. Namor is Latino-coded but that's pretty much all.
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>>563791784
shut up, pussy. you know you were being a prick on purpose. don't throw rocks and then hide your hands.
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>>563791809
>>Evidence suggest Hulk was going to be Amadeus Cho not Banner (beta screenshots prove Amadeus was going to be playable)
>>I remember people also saying that Storm was originally Aero
both of these are completely made up btw
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>>563792386
>>563792620
Ok so apparently you guys are correct and some dude just made fake concept art because apparently people do that these days but apparently Red Hulk might have been an idea once because he shows up as an icon in a character select concept art during a dev stream
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>>563792463
>mad because he died coming out of the spawn door
lmao cri more peni chads stay winning
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I hope we get more character reworks
Jeff's rework was great despite what normies will tell you so we know they have it in them
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>>563793359
We are not getting more reworks. They are making a new character and team ups every month. The only reason we got the Jeff and Thor reworks were because we got Jean who is Hela 2 and Blade who was made since season 1.
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>>563793297
lmao, doing that to people in the first few months of the game was so fun. i played as her for a while but once the rocket team up ability came into play i really started to hate her, very glad that shit is gone
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There's something so disarming about how shitty the ragdolls are in this game. Why don't models fly away with any velocity like they do in TF2? They just sort of go limp and flop to the ground really pathetically, it's very jarring
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>>563793840
Jeff was crying, you monster
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Make a new thread already faggots
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>>563792538
Shut the fuck up you obnoxious maggot you deserve all the shit you get and you better believe there’s more to come
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>>563794250
Fuck you, if you want a tank, you swap.
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I have ult fuckers, someone go strange
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You guys know Black Cat can portal now too, right?
You can be a dpsfag and still make a new bread
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>>563792434
I’m not saying that was a valid response to all of those characters but it definitely was to some of them out there. Now it’s clear they don’t have a singular clue what they’re doing on top of adding the extra work load of whatever the fuck else in the coming months so who knows what’s on the table when they’re doing silly shit like this (I still don’t see Wasp working without fundamentally changing what makes her Wasp but that’s neither here or there)
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>>563794250
Fuck off and wait idiot
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agh bro
I really hate playing comp now because it full of nothing but parasitic duos who take advantage of their teammates

I've been advocating for a solo queue for so long just to get away from this bullshit. Im pretty certain that if they added solo queue, you would never see another female support again.
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>>563791076
>Best tanks are the sexiest ones
Just like the other two roles
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The sad reality is that only the gays play tank, which is why there aren't as many as other roles.
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>>563787332
where? link?
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>>563792186
>Hes not wrong
He was at least 50 percent wrong and likely more
But yeah its no secret this game’s creative decisions are ass at this point and I agree even your average player could probably do a better job with some aspect of it
That being said, there’s a lot of stupid fucking ideas that’s been floated here in the past as well, so I can’t necessarily fault anyone else either
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>>563793840
total jeff death
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>>563795343
Both are overly emotional with an extreme victim complex, I can see it
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>>563795506
>only gays like charging headfirst into the fight, taking all the abuse the enemy can dish out while punching the shit out of everyone
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>>563795642
don't talk to actual fags
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>>563795679
damn, i guess i should never return to veegee....
i'm surprised i can even post, was range banned for like a month
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I love to tank, but theyre making it harder with every patch
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>>563795385
ignite tournament on twitch, or the ingame replay under esports
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>Kill tanks that don't use shields
>Kill Torch
>Don't nerf Gambit ult charge, CnD, or Phoenix
>Add more Psylocke legendaries
So how much longer til Zhiyong gets fired as it's clear this man doesn't play the game?
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>>563795926
>1 new post
gambit's ult charge is the least of his characters problems
its the fact that it heals too
it shouldnt heal
i swear to god that if it didnt heal it would actually be balanced or WAY easier to deal with but they refuse to make these decisions that will actually fix the fucking game.
'
invis? just make it so her shield cant full stop a magneto or namor ult anymore
make it so she cant spam it 20 times in 5 seconds

these are things that would be a huge nerf but not a devastating one to both of those characters, but for some reason they're just fighting every step of the way.
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>>563795926
Yo Uncle Dane, no game developer plays their own game
Just like how no painter spends their time staring at their own finished works and no musician listens to their own music in their free time
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The jews will save us by making a new thread
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>>563796150
This is denial. Plenty of game developers still play their own game, it's just that the most important and influential design leads dont play their own game.
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>>563796150
>Just like how no painter spends their time staring at their own finished works and no musician listens to their own music in their free time
>t.has never painted or made music
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>>563794297
i hope that's not all you've got, faggot.
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If netease are going to kill the 3 tank mommies I'm going to start instalocking dps.

Also fuck all you faggots that kept bitching about Emma until they nerfed her into a handicapped shitty dps.
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>>563796714
>Emma
>Rogue
who's the third?
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We need a front line tank to create the new thread.
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>>563796714
>tank mommies
Kill yourself
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>>563797246
There are no tanks anymore
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>>563797246
>cap
>tank
kekaroo
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>>563797246
sorry im 99% charged
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>>563796714
i know that feel, bro.
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>>563797246
I'm phone posting. I could do it but it's awful to do
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>>563796701
*tips you over and rolls you on the ground*
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>>563796697
Least obvious larp
I make digital art, and I write, and I've dabbled in gamedev. I don't spend my free time looking at my own work because that's work and I don't do work in my free time. That would make me lose my mind, which you would know if you weren't pretending to have an artistic pursuit right now.
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Whatever happened to all the Tanks?
All the Magnetos?
They watched their Team burn
Whatever happened to the Tanks?
Whatever happened to the Tanks?
No more Tanks any more
No more Tanks any more
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>>563797990
>>563797990
>>563797990
Fuck you all
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The thread is dying
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>>563797664
kek



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