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Penis game, Penis general edition

>News
Black Cat Character Reveal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn7a5F9oJwo

Dev Vision Vol. 16: https://youtu.be/Z6JC-ciabRg

Balance Patch Notes: https://x.com/marvelrivals/status/2044143818870550725

White Fox Character Reveal: https://youtu.be/esb1CBW2WK8

Lower Manhattan Map Reveal: https://youtu.be/ChBE64P3Ams

Hospitality 101 Event: https://x.com/i/status/2041591841058124198

Version 20260326 Balance Post: https://www.marvelrivals.com/balancepost/20260325/41667_1292877.html

Dual Life of Peter Parker event: https://x.com/i/status/2034336534070272258

Daredevil Twitch Drops Season 7.5: https://x.com/MarvelRivals/status/2044793206441664560

ESU Open Day Event: https://x.com/MarvelRivals/status/2044445651661168813

>Store
Black Cat's Urban Predator: https://x.com/MarvelRivals/status/2044113460653371426

Iron Fist’s Lin Shao: The Knockout and Jeff The Landshark’s Maid to Chomp Skins: https://x.com/i/status/2041169240045097174

Cloak & Dagger's Daring Duo and Captain America's Brett Hendrick: The Star Skins: https://x.com/i/status/2036118339370586501

Punisher's Marauder Marksman: https://x.com/i/status/2033996794342838398

Ultron's Odinforce Ultron Skin: https://x.com/i/status/2033981697981546574

White Fox's Yoon Ji-woo: The Leader Skin: https://x.com/i/status/2033966601918181456

The Thing's Fear Itself and Daredevil's Born Again Season 2 Skins: https://x.com/i/status/2031407298669666551

Psylocke's Once-Captive Corsair & Captain America's Cursed Captain Skins: https://x.com/i/status/2029738798007886162

>Links
Hero Hot List: https://marvelrivals.com/heroes_data/

Guides & News: https://marvelrivals.gg/

Tracker Resources: https://rivalstracker.com

Mobalytics Page: https://mobalytics.gg/marvel-rivals

FANDOM Wiki: https://marvelrivals.fandom.com/

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Black Cat variant who's been lost in the time stream for years and is so desperate for Peter that she molests an innocent Peni variant cause it's the closest thing she can get
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>get diffed in qp
>can't do anything about it because the other team is coordinated with each other just enough they effectively shut down anything your team tries
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>play with friends and friends of friends in a six stack
>one mains Punisher and Squirrel girl
>constantly swearing and yelling in mic in a petulant whiny way like "FUCK this DaredDevil! FUCK I can't do anything what a CUNT! I can't DO anything!"
>if we lose a game he's always like "Wow what a bunch of sweats that team needs to touch grass"
>try to help by pointing out good turret spots and tips cause I Lorded Punisher on my DPS bench
>he just keeps doing the same dumb shit then complaining
Like I dunno nigga if you can't do anything on the character maybe try a different one or try changing your play and grouping up. Doesn't even use Punisher's ziplines and barely ever turrets. Try using his kit. Try aiming. Stop trying to 1v4. I swear to god I'm gonna start muting this fag in the GC.
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>go from gold 2 to gold 1
>instantly start losing game after game
>derank back to gold 2
>start winning consistently again
This has happened literally 3 times now. There can't possibly be that big of a skill gap between 2 gold ranks.
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I’m a diehard DPS instalocker but I occasionally play strange because the M1/Whip/E combo is fun to pull off and I like using the portals
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How the fuck do you climb out of celestial with all the dogshit jeff OTPs? Fucking hell, this is so difficult that I cant even figure it out.
I've never seen so many until this season, its actually appalling how many of them there are, because you cant do anything with a Jeff when the entire enemy team change to Starlord, Psylocke, Phoenix, Punisher to just punish your backline nonstop. There are so many of these little faggots that you cannot avoid them, because you quickly run out of avoids.
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Ive been playing Magik non-stop in Vs AI and I usually do very good. But I am afraid to take her to Gold comp. Should I try her in Gold?
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>>564132815
gold is a smurf rank where everyone locks DPS, so if you're okay with that then sure.
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>>564132815
Gold isn't much better than AI
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>>564132815
Gold and the rest of that area is literally just smurf city.
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>spider-man players
>friendly, with the team, sees themselves as a tool of the team
>black panther players
>niggers through and through, see themselves as the sole person and act like a spear chucker ninja
Life imitates art doesn't it? The amount of times that someone goes bp and you just ask "yo you're black aren't you?" and it's dead on is astounding
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>EVERY GAME WHITE FOX
I don't get it
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>only play Jeff, get the rare tism spider main that actually goes for healers, get raped
>swap with sue main next round
>spidey becomes a non issue for everyone, forced to swap
Why do you fucking failures even attempt to play anything else? You’re here to fucking heal
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>>564132815
How do you do well with her in AI matches? The bots wallhack and see you coming then lock on with their aimbots. Real players can remain oblivious to a diver like Magik until it's too late.
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>>564133628
>get matched into a QP lobby
>hear some black guy on mic
>roll my eyes because i already know he's going to be a playstation player who plays like shit
>correct 99% of the time
It's comical at this point how it's always true. Hit P to see the player list and there's the playstation logo every single time.
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>>564132815
If it's hard AI, then gold players are gonna be worse than that. AI will straight 180 lock on to you once one of the backline has spotted you while the healers will turn on aimbot to heal each other perfectly
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I'm so exhausted of this game right now, because it feels like you need the planets to align just to get a win or be able to win. Today I fought so hard for multiple Celestial II rankups into Celestial I and they all ended in disaster because I just kept getting Jeff or people swapping into Jeff. I got Jeff so many times that I actually won a couple matches, and we only won because It's a statistical improbability to not win with him eventually, but the probability hinges on teammates carrying the player in question. I checked my match history and I saw him on my team for like 4 or 5 matches straight which equated to an after school special length. and I even got him for like 10 or so matches today. Do you want to know something funny? I have literally lost with him on the new map like 4-5 times and I've played it like maybe 8 times.
I had matches where Jeff players would swap to Invisible Woman, Luna, Cloak & Dagger, Rocket, Mantis and White Fox way too late into what could have been a comeback and they would do better but it was already over. Your team lost too much space, the team's ultimate economy was completey fucking cooked on top of it. I even played against a couple champion jeff players who would tilt after one death and go straight to a meta healer. And it's like, where is that initiative when I have one? I've tried not saying anything to them in hopes that their bullshit meter overflows, but it doesn't. It's like if one of them see you slightly carrying the game, they wont get off of it, but at the same time I dont want to blatantly throw just to get them to stop playing it.
Today I queued against a Jeff player and by god the game gave him such a stacked team that they tried EVERYTHING to work around this little nigga, they tried going trip with CnD, Mantis, they tried going GOATs with Thor, Hulk, Groot, but eventually we just 3/0d them and they couldn't leave their spawn on their turn, in fact the other non jeff healer was so angry that he just went afk
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>>564133760
turning into a bigass fox monster and killing people is fun
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>>564134435
This but Xbox
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>>564135020
Bro, that fucking character is garbage. Lets be honest, white fox is only being played because support sissies are tired of playing the same 3 healers every match.
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>>564133179
>pic
Flank Shotgun only Punisher mains would beg to differ.
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Look, all I want to do is get back to diamond and get a border, that's it. I've done it before. However it's so frustrating to solo queue, and when you have a full time job. Loser queue is real too. Had one awesome match at the start, got paired with a one trick Squirrel Girl the next, then next match got cancelled by a thrower, then the following match was yet another loss with crap DPS who disconnected resulting in a surrender. So once again, a session has one step forward, two steps back to keep me where I am. This is what I get for warming up in Quickplay and having back to back wins. I am ashamed to be stuck in gold this season I know I'm better than this, because I've done it.
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Soon
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>>564135431
This particular season has just been much more difficult because you have to factor in a couple things.
- OTPs are starting to crack under the pressure
- There were 2 new characters added that people are throwing on
- the strategist bans are causing people to spaz out

Last season? I flew straight threw Diamond and GM without even breaking a sweat. This season? You are fighting with your own team more than you're fighting against the enemy team.
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>>564135723
There are like three characters that I recognize to be in a public domain within a decade so I guess you want your Carol to be in that 10 year group too.
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>>564135315
>She's only "garbage" because her healing sucks, I know because every game has a WF and they are too busy DPSing.
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Am I just shit or is Black Cat's fortune grab nearly impossible to hit? The hitbox is so small and you gotta be so precise it feels like unless you just throw it in front of the whole enemy team straight on.
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I dont even understand why you guys are playing this game right now. It's in such a terrible state that you cant even have a quality match without someone losing their head.
I saw multiple teams including my own FF these last couple sessions because they realize the problematic person on their team wont adhere to fixing the problem, so you just have to surrender and avoid the player. It's a good game but the bad balance and especially the players are making it way worse.

I just started playing Destiny again, and its sad because Destiny is in a rough state but it still manages to be more fun than Rivals currently, which says a lot.
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>>564136372
Yea, you gotta be able to aim. At least, I assume that's why I suck at it. That and you only get one shot every 5 seconds.
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>>564136451
I've been playing Crime Scene Cleaner, and just bought HADES 2 and Cosmic Invasion just now on sale. Will get to those later.
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>>564136451
I just play quick play, if they wanna treat the game like a clown show i'll treat it like one.
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>Spider-man OTP
>Playing QP to see how to feels to play against spiders as support
I'm probably just playing against bad spiders but I don't feel like I should ever be dying to that character unless I take a bit of damage and I get put into range of GOHT > Uppercut. Seeing a lot of engages from the supp POV made me realize I'm probably way too telegraphed in my own engages since I just shoot them for half a second and they scurry off to a health pack.
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>literally push off the enemy while using angela's charge
>somehow don't carry
buggy piece of shit game
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>>564135890
I think I'm just going to instalock Ultron or something. Allows me to pick up the slack on two roles. I was trying really hard this evening with Peni and Strange but god dammit DPS fucking suck at taking advantage of pressure. I wish I had the team I had the first match of the night. I was Strange, had a Thor, Sue, Gambit, Punisher, and Magik. We killed it on the NY tablet map, 3-0
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LITERALLY how the fuck has faggot knight not been nerfed even slightly yet.
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>>564137472
i also play strange in gold and it feels like my performance doesn't matter at all outside of portal placement
either my team can take advantage of the space i make or they can't and there's not much i can do about that
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>>564136451
Sounds like you just need a break, cause that webm clip doesn't look fun.
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You know what really grinds my gears? Problem since season 0; players cannot prioritize enemy targets worth a damn. Situational awareness is nonexistent. I'm not even talking about picking counters, I'm talking about dealing with the most important target at any given time. Most DPS, and bad tanks, are fucking meat grinding into the opposition rather than figuring out who is vulnerable and who should be dealt with systematically. And it's not even restricted to shit negative score players too, as for example a positive Spidey or Black Panther can kill at all the wrong times. It's ultimately about space kept, and running out the clock, that's it. A flier? Fucking shoot them first. A tank pushing all the way into your backline? Everyone stop and kill it, then move on to next enemy target. Enemy healer retreating back to spawn? Maybe let it go, and regroup to further fortify the point.

Don't even get me started on chokepoints
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>>564136372
You're kind of shit. I have shit aim, but I manage to hit it more often than not. Aim at the tank if you're not confident. It's a short cooldown, so just keep using it whenever.
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>>564136451
I just do my 10 placements, get the diamond border and fuck around in QP till then. Usually play heroes I don't normally play at that time too. If it wasn't for the Marvel IP and fat asses in latex and suits, I would've dropped this game in a heartbeat.
Shame Black Cat has this awkward janky feast or famine kit cause I would be playing he fuck out of her.
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>>564137993
I wish I was in your shoes. This is what I get for slacking for seasons and falling so far. I want to be in a Diamond cozy spot, that's all
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>>564136451
I haven’t played this game in months. I’m pretty much only here to keep up with developments hoping that they can get things back on track. So far that doesn’t seem to be happening. I’ll probably boot it up and give the heroes I haven’t played yet a try soon. Your webm makes me very sad because it reminds me that while Destiny’s world is pretty cool it not really engaging.
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>>564138137
>I wish I was in your shoes. This is what I get for slacking for seasons and falling so far. I want to be in a Diamond cozy spot, that's all
I'm a slacker too not a big fan of how they handle balance patches, but I guess I didn't enjoy it in the past cause of solo queue maining tank mostly. This season I'm just gonna do DPS and Support just to get things out the way. But I'm still at the mercy of dealing with Plat bans.
Game placed me in Plat 1 so I'm just expecting to get hit with the biggest losing streak before hand.
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>>564138183
> I haven’t played this game in months
Why are you in this general?
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Playing against hard AI on a dive character is genuinely not fun.
>Trying to make a play with Black Cat
>Get sniped by Iron man
>Watch the death cam
>He's jitteringly aiming all over the place, generally forwards towards my team
>Suddely whips around and starts firing on me
>I dash
>He auto tracks it and pops me
How the fuck am I suppose to learn like this?
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>>564139141
he's here for the futa porn
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>instalock angie hoping someone else will pick a shield tank so i can dick around and bully their healers
>no one else picks tank
>have to cuck out and switch to mag or strange
I just want to have fucking FUN for once. Is that so much to ask?
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>>564139187
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>>564139219
Just ask for a second tank
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>>564139169
you can't really "learn" flanker melee characters against Hard AI because they just immediately focus/headshot you. lord help you if there's Hard AI squirrel girl, adam, or moon knight.
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>>564139219
Angela should have Venom's survivability
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>>564139141
>I’m pretty much only here to keep up with developments hoping that they can get things back on track
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>>564139141
cus he wants to be, mister internet police
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Yes, I just joined as a drop in for quickplay. No, I am not going to switch to a healer or a tank because you want to win. Yes, I am playing just for fun. Sorry, I'm going to mute you if you complain and blame the match on you if we lose
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Black Cat is not popular enough to have a difficult moveset so people just dropped the character so quickly, dont know what they were thinking
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>>564140269
Not difficult enough cause they're still trying to steal her from me in my matches.
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>>564140269
She's not that hard. All you really need to do is farm coin and use the whip/dash. The stuff from the shop is situational.
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>>564140106
You don’t need to be in this general to do that.
Just google the fucking game or use social media like YouTube and Twitter.
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>Spiderman player ragequits after getting killed by me multiple times
Yes! Another hit for Luna Snow!
>His backfill goes Spiderman and ragequits after getting killed by me multiple times
What do I do for an encore!
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>>564140106
>>564138183
Also this general is the worst fucking place to do that with. /mrg/ is full of shitposters while the overall MR community rarely has the same viewpoints/opinions on things.
You can only really keep up with the development by playing the game and forming your own opinions.
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>>564132454
you sound engaged!
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>>564133628
>The amount of times that you just ask "yo you're black aren't you?"
i don't do dat...
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>>564138183
How can you even gauge that when this general is just full of shitposters, contrarians and waifuposting?
I would think that every season is shit since there’s always anons spamming steam charts
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>>564140325
People are finally getting the hang of her. I'm seeing her show up more in matches now.
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>>564135315
but you're not tired of playing the same 3 characters?
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>>564139219
Just flank with your Luna
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tfw it really is gg no heals
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If you 6 stack in quickplay you should jump off a bridge.
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It's insane how many games are entirely melee dps comps right now. Black Cat instalock is understandable but the drooling retards locking BP, Fist, DD, Spidey alongside her need to uninstall immediately
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Season 10!
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Gooning to Venom
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Everyone is in GM. Is GM the new Diamond?
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GIVE TANKS A COOMER CHARACTER HOLY FUCK ROGUE ANGELA EMMA ARE SO FUCKING UGLY BLACK CAT SHOULDVE BEEN A TANK
GIVE THIS CURSED ROLE ANYTHING
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>>564145036
and more
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>>564145630
Rogue is not ugly.
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>>564145630
>GIVE TANKS A COOMER CHARACTER
We have strange, magneto, thor, hulk, thing, venom, cap
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>>564145630
They're almost the same model though with slight tweaks in scale.
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>>564140269
I barely see her in 18v18, might be the fastest a character has ever dropped off. I dont even think shes hard is just the random Moba shop doesnt have any good synergy with the rest of her kit
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>>564146205
she's shitting up QP along with spiderman what do you mean?
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If they do devil dinosaur this game is cooked
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>>564146071
I don't see it and her face is much more attractive than Rogue's.
>>564146205
>might be the fastest a character has ever dropped off
I wish I had these lobbies you guys were talking about. If she stays this popular in the future I'm not even gonna bother trying.
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My predictions for Black Cat when people figure her out. She's going to be permabanned in a couple of weeks. Screenshot this.
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Will they fix the man-face?
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>>564146893
of course not, and the only thing she has going for her is covered up by a giant cape
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>>564135315
>garbage
Lol
Lmao even

She's literally the most OP healer right now
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>>564146893
I better be able to take off the retarded head piece and cape or so help me god
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>>564145857
My mutant wife Rogue
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>>564145707
I need to catch up on everything I've missed.
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>>564147721
you haven't missed much. thread has been dead.
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flop cat
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>>564145630
they gave us Rogue but won't make costumes for her. actual Monkey's Paw.
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Man I hate being a geriatric gamer. I start off strong but by hour 4-5 my eyes start getting heavier, I get more headaches and I get angry easier. Fuck
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Top 3 most versatile Tanks?
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>>564150149
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>>564148029
That's a damn shame.
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It's funny that you can play Black Cat without even using her spells. Just spam double jump and whip
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>>564150203
lord i hope

Scott HAS to be a vanguard right
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>>564133760
Heal has semi auto aim (even if it's actively bad to miss direct hits), teleport to get away, good anti dive with the melee, supportoids think it's cool to become a big fox that farts out heals in an aoe.
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>>564147268
>She's literally the most OP healer right now

That's still Gambit.

>>564150149
>Top 3 most versatile Tanks?
Magneto, Magneto and Magneto.
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is this true?
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>>564151186
I don’t think he’s saying no to all that
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>>564150203
>>564150872
I don't like this narrative
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>>564150996
>magneto

what if we took zarya but removed the only fun part of her that she can build high damage and gave them a shitty projectile
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>>564151186
proof?
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How many times does your backline need to get wiped before people finally accept that you just need a defensive ultimate?
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White Fox is the most busted character in the game and it's going to take 2 or 3 seasons for people to realize it.
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Spider-Gwen never btw
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>weekend over and Felicia never hit 150k
faggotbros... we lost...
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>gambit, elsa, white fox
have simple kits. Get instalock'ed till this day
>rogue, black cat, Deadpool
Have complicated kits. Nobody lock them

I see a pattern here.
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>>564152901
And Black Cat wasn't even the top or second most played hero during her own launch weekend, kek
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>>564153303
Deadpool and Black Cat are overdesigned, Rogue is just poorly designed.
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>>564152901
To be fair Overwatch purposely dropped their new season on the same week, and new popular games like Windrose/Pragmata released as well.
115k is still an impressive number considering all that.
Solid numbers and she's fun as fuck? Feliciachads won.
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>>564131956
Imagine the smell
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>>564152901
>the only costume i would want is already available as a mod
gg no re
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>>564153685
cope
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>>564154671
LOL
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I take back what I said. Black Cat is not clicking with me.
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>plays jeff into magneto / spiderman
>gets angry when the team asks him to swap

is this just intentional trolling to get someone else to fill?
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>tfw doing all the seasonal challenges with blade only
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Uh uh, you are NOT allowed to play Black Cat in my ranked games yet. You don't even know how to play her.
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>>564156183
You saying you don't want a 42% winrate hero in your matches?
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I want more pirate skins
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>>564156553
its not even that
its just that no one wants a person to play a new charact er that happesn to get filtered like every other diver (namor-invis)
you literally will cook every diver in the game with these two and they never get banned because for some reason zhiyong wants gambit, elsa, pheonix, groot, punisher to be bans for the rest of time.
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>>564156752
I got this and Psylockes and don’t use them
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>>564156976
need healer too soo... invis again I guess?
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Hey hey /mrg/

As I finish up the Black Cat and GothGF Hela 2026 Sets between my bigger high priority comms/other stuff, for tonights warmup I managed to whip up a Flat Colours so far of Scarlet Witch/Wanda 2026 since so many of you guys here and just in general loved how I drew Wanda last year, so here's your first look!

There will be Pubes/Tanlines/and Piercings Alts confirmed, debating on Preggo Alts but if the Alt Count doesn't get too crazy I'll add them, enjoy the Wanda preview!
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>>564158664
is there a beta safe version for cucks too
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>guaranteed win
>guaranteed lose
>guaranteed lose
>guaranteed win
>guaranteed win
>guaranteed lose
i have felt nothing but sadness ever since this season started
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>>564158664
>There will be Pubes
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>>564158664
Fucked up how Vision isn't here to see this
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>>564158664
Pure sex
Also draw more Psylocke
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>>564158664
how many Preggo alts have you done before? any for the canon moms like Sue?
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>90% for the gambit recolor
Don’t forget to get your twitch drops lads
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Thank you Deadpool for saving the tank role
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>>564151186
Yes, and I'm the spiderman.
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>>564158782
>is there a beta safe version for cucks too
wat
>>564159286
YESSIRRR I remember even before I drew Wanda the first time so many people expected her to have a big bush because she's romani lmao
>>564159290
>Fucked up how Vision isn't here to see this
It's fine Ultron's cooler even if he isn't voiced by James Spader in Rivals
>>564159429
>Pure sex
>Also draw more Psylocke
I've been seriously eyeing down her disco skin, the one with the Blue Hair/Bob Cut so that's most likely gonna be my next Psy, after I finish up everything else first ofc!
>how many Preggo alts have you done before? any for the canon moms like Sue?
Alts? Or Sets with Preggo Alts?

According to my Patreon tags the amount is 17 Rule34 Sets with Preggo Alts but a majority of those are League of Legends girls with the only Rivals girls so far being, ironically Angela and Hela

Maybe for this next Wanda Set I'll give her Preggo Alts if the number of Alts isn't so nuts, but it's a strong possibility!
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>>564160361
oops forgot to quote >>564162224
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how come whenever i see spiderman footage they keep like 5x more momentum after a basic swing than I do to the point where on some maps they can get over halfway back from spawn in one web
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>The best anti-dive is a diver
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>>564153312
You're expecting too much if you want her to be picked that much on competitive. Peoppe are learning her on quick play.
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>>564162620
That's enough, Sanjeet.
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>>564157761
Nuuuuuuuuu~!
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>24days left
>already completed battlepass (free tier)
>only thing left is a event with 52d left
>Already GM, so no need to grind rank anymore
Yeah... I can finally take a break from this shit game.
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>>564163416
finished already?
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>101k 24h peak
Lol! 3 days in and we're already back to sub-100k
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What's the key to climbing as a tank main?
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>>564164843
Not one tricking.
>hulk and thing to peel
>hulk to cuck moonknight
>thing to cuck spidey, panther, and rogue faggotry
>cap to discipline snipers and annoy their backline
>thor to murder cuck tanks, tank busters, and Angela
>strange to cuck peni
>mag to cuck starlord ult
Etc…
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>>564164843
>climbing as tank
lol, have fun gaining less points on win and losing more on loss.

>>564163372
This was always the case. Most tanks are shit at peeling.
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>>564165178
Thing is not good at peeling, stop spreading this misinformation. Mag, Thor, Angela, Emma are all better at it.
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>>564142667
theres nowhere else to six-stack you friendless dork
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>>564153685
HAHHAHAHA FAGGOT YOU WERE SAYING IT WOULD HIT 200k EASILY
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>>564158664
i *NEED* a summer skin for wanda this year
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>>564162224
I don't even care about her background, I just love bush.
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>>564153685
xD
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i took some advice on how to play Felicia that i saw in the thread yesterday, and i kinda clicked. She's fun but never going to be my main character, her items aren't all that useful and theres a lot of other characters who do what she does better. I've been a tank main since the game came out, but I'm genuinely not doing it this season - I'll pick healer if I need to in the few ranked matches im gonna do, and just chuck squids as Namor every other match.
Hoping the PVE is fun, but if its the same fucking roster and one or two more characters i doubt i'll play it past the first day, the zombies mode got boring in under an hour because i didnt like any of the playable heroes
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>>564162224
>I've been seriously eyeing down her disco skin, the one with the Blue Hair/Bob Cut so that's most likely gonna be my next Psy, after I finish up everything else first ofc!
Please do
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>>564151186
I just realized when watching that clip from the map loading screen that pete's staring at her tits, black cat realizes that, and she slaps him lmao.
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>>564169139
black catwoman has just an outrageous design bottleneck in her kit where you can't really accrue her resource fast or consistently enough to be useful. so you can't actually use any of the nifty "fun" spells like the portal or even the invisibility. if you actually consistently sit at like 400+ or more luck it's because you're either playing extremely conservatively or the enemy is just bad
>E spell
gets blocked or misses half the time because its a slow projectile that gets stuck on every defensive move that the game is chock full of
>shift spell
arguably the most consistent way to build her resource but is on a massive cooldown and carries risk of instant death
>m1 attacks
LOL

meanwhile her basic combo requires like 600 worth of luck, and if you miss any of your shit, you instantly run out of coins and and you're left there with your dick in your hand.

methinks the design team should remove the luck cost from her whip move and instead make it charge based, like 3 whips on a 5 second recharge rate. its fun to spam it forever on 5 enemies but ultimately retarded and gay for the health of the hero overall
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>>564164843
Climb as something else, then play tank. The game values your contributions less in the game as a tank so you get half as many rank points.
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>>564165568
Nice metal rank advice
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>>564170831
>meanwhile her basic combo requires like 600 worth of luck, and if you miss any of your shit, you instantly run out of coins and and you're left there with your dick in your hand.
Well, she's a dive character, that's the point. You're not supposed to have much sustain. You shoot your shot and retreat.
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>>564170831
i wasn't getting any kills at all until i started really using the whip on crowds that weren't aware of me yet. its strong as hell and a good finishing move, but like you said, you have to work your ass off to get a few charges of it. then you have to sucessfully find your way into the crowd and pick off your target, then pray you get out alive. i've been playing sue for a year+ now, so i started using her invisibility boost a lot to get away and it helps, but again - it cost a good amount of your stack so there goes your next attack. back to scrounging for change
putting the whips on a cooldown would help a lot, we can only hope they act fast like they did with White Fox last season
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>>564171015
I really dont get why they let this happen. Solo tanking is a bad experience for the whole team and its becoming more common every season.
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>>564171435
it's not her lack of sustain specifically, it's her inconsistency. it sucks to play her, it sucks to play against her and it especially sucks to have her on your team. i notice i am ace and have good stats on most games as her, but then i look at my team and my teammates are just getting buck broken on cooldown. the hero plays extremely selfishly, exerts no pressure and has to spend like half the match waiting to get enough coins to do something black panther does out of neutral. even if black panther was less of a threat otherwise, he at least adds pressure by very consistently mind controlling the enemy backline. his cooldowns are short and he has no mario party minigame mechanic to manage.

desu it's all immaterial. no one at netease understands game design deeply enough to look at this kinda stuff and how different heroes impact how the game feels to play. it's a lost art

>>564171507
same but i doubt they're smart enough to do it and instead they'll just pingpong her numbers between being busted and overpowered and bottom of the barrel troll pick
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>multiple anons in this general that don’t even play the game
That explains the thread quality
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it sucks how you can't even play tank if your healers suck
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>>564171595
It's been this way since season 0. Zhiyong unapologetically hates tanks and thinks that's how you distance this game from Overwatch.
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>>564172287
to be fair i also hate tanks and i hate tank players too. they slow down the game and make it gay and annoying. i hope they all go to hell
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>1 eternity
>2 celestials
>2 GM on the other team
>2 diamonds
>2 plats
>1 gm on mine
meme ass matchmaking
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>>564147721
I got doc strange and jock thor so at this point im waiting for another skin I like
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>>564172218
>role that needs to create space for their team to play
>role that is entirely reliant on their team to follow through with picks
>completely reliant on healers to stay alive because the amount of damage in this game
>the most team reliant role in a team game AND gets the least amount of points in Comp because fuck you kill yourself

i thought asians were smart
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can I watch stream replay in client for rewards?
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>>564172541
Real, I’ve never been as annoyed at any characters as I have at Groot, Magneto, and Strange
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>>564170831
>idiot can't spend 5 seconds slapping the enemy tank twice for 600 joins 30m away before going in or flanking
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I enjoy tanking because i love cucking duelists
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>>564171194
You don't know what makes a good peeler and just parrot Thing like every other clueless idiot.
The damage resist is shit for allies, Thing has no good CC and the best he has is clunky as shit and can be ignored and he has no way to keep enemies off his allies.

Here's a simple test to see how retarded you are. Who is better at peeling, Thing or Mr Fantastic?
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>>564172541
>they slow down the game and make it gay and annoying

You just described Strategists.
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>>564172541
Maybe go play cod if you just want some quick ttk gunplay
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>>564174367
those are annoying too but we are luckily getting to the point that strategists are just dps but with the ability to top allies off and also the best CC spells for killing stuff (the overwatch 2 formula)
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When are they fixing thing?
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>>564174658
When you get good at the game
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>>564174639
>those are annoying too but we are luckily getting to the point that strategists are just dps but with the ability to top allies off and also the best CC spells for killing stuff (the overwatch 2 formula)

Strategists are not like Supports in Overwatch at all.
Strategists are effectively healbots with extreme amounts of outgoing healing and in a game with no proper antiheal. They have CC, high mobility, self heal and huge healing ults.
Compare Gambit to any Support in Overwatch and you'll see how absurd they are in MR while also being insanely strong healers.
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SOON
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>>564175231
Here comes the contrarians
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>>564147721
I thought you had quit
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>>564172564
>my team is full plat retards all console
>enemy team is all GM+
Quick match is fun
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>>564175145
theyre not but theyre getting to the point that they are. they are making the same "discovery" as blizzard and realizing that supports feel like shit to play if you cant defend yourself. so you end up with stuff like luna that can poke hela off the map because she does the same damage but has tons of self sustain, or invis woman pull that has a higher chance of resulting in a kill than typical bucky hook usage

the main obstacle to me playing luna as a dps every match are my teammates unable to wrap their minds around it. even if i have better stats and "feel" more useful than when playing punisher or hela, it doesn't matter as long as metaslavery is a mindset
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>>564174834
What rank do i need to get in solo queueing every season before you say im good at the game?
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>>564176428
usually eternity or at least celestial but ive played that game and it goes like

>youre not good
>ok now post your REAL stat page with video proof that its yours
>ok even if youre eternity it doesnt matter because you stacked with someone to reach it
>ok even if you solo queued it doesnt matter because you played <hero>
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>>564172689
They're very good skins, I saw Spidey has a skin I need to grab too whenever I'm fully setup and able to play again.
>>564175954
I was away from home for a while, but now I'm back gooning to Venom can now continue.
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>>564172689
Football Cap is pretty good too and I think it expires this week
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>>564176908
Thats why i asked like that. Im only a cel 2 peak usually high gm but thats mostly because ill stay with my friends until the end of the season when i solo queue to climb.
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>>564177985
Football Cap is the weakest out of all of the ESU skins, followed by Hela’s. Those are the only two mediocre ones imo.
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>>564177985
Right that one is alright but I already have wolf cap and im gonna try to manifest a sexy summer cap
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>>564170831
i think if she gets an m1 range buff then she'll feel a lot more consistent to play
she doesn't actually need any numerical buffs, just a fix to make her economy more flexible
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>>564175231
stupid, sexy Gambit.
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>devs force you to switch after they powercreep the shit out of your main
hero for this feel?
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>>564175231
Is it me or did they change her face for that skin? Seems lighter than usual
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>>564180349
Agree,her face looks thinner
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Rivals got me to start reading some comics, starting with the Strange run from 1974. These constant exclamations he makes are getting old, the slightest shit can happen and he’ll say something like
>By the quims of Qurroth!
Also, Clea is Strange’s charm in game, right? I still have no clue who she is besides some love interest/student (that’s pretty fucked up of strange to take advantage of an apprentice like that, I thought this guy was supposed to be a hero)
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>>564176323
>theyre not but theyre getting to the point that they are. they are making the same "discovery" as blizzard and realizing that supports feel like shit to play if you cant defend yourself

No. Rivals supports are infinitely better at defending themselves, have way way higher healing output and are almost exclusively primary fire healers with no cooldown. There is no discovery happening, just a doubling down of the exact same dumb decisions Rivals did from S0. If they actually looked at Overwatch Supports they might've learned how hard they fucked up their healer designs.
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>>564180349
She looks better
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>>564179368
First good catbox link
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>>564178215
I disagree, but he clicks for me on a personal level that probably doesn't for other people, so I understand where you're coming from.
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do NOT buy the FOMO hellfire gala skins with gold units, only do with blue ones, they'll comeback next year (buying NOW will only show em that you are a sucker)
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>took a Norwegian player to win Ignite tourny for NA
>is also best Cap world
How do I git gud at Steve Rogers? He seems fun
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>goblino larpin as american
lol
lmao even!
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>>564180648
Older comics really didn’t age well in a lot of aspects. You have some where the dialogue holds up kind of but Strange stuff is especially filled with a lot of overdramatic flair to match up with the ‘mysticism’.
>>564175231
Right is good. Left is… really weird either way that open chest.
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>>564181632
if you're a confused degenerate tranny, yea
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>>564180849
its been about 2 years since i played overwatch but if i recall correctly, trying to kill a support in that game is a herculean task because of how the game plays. generally as dps you are slow as shit, your gun does 0 damage at range, so you have to basically walk through the enemy tank somehow (you will die during this step). you are really just incentivized to play off of your tank and slowly look for openings that happen due to the enemy's error. there was some game design wisdom by gabe newell 25 years ago when he said "video games is when you make the game respond to what you are doing" and overwatch is the mathematical antithesis to that idea. overwatch is a game that does not respond to anything you do in it, things just happen and you have to cope with it.

rivals duelists have way more mobility and tools in general, so they can off angle, poke at range with better fall off and generally infiltrate the enemy's line. and whether or not you kill a luna as a hela is more up to whether you actually position correctly, hit your shots and play around her abilities. matchups feel a lot more predetermined in overwatch because heroes are slow, predictable and gay in general. unless you want to suggest there is anything similar to spiderman or black panther in overwatch. there are times when i don't like playing marvel rivals, and when it starts to eerily remind me of playing overwatch, but at worst i think the game is just retarded, badly balanced and run by morons, but the game has never offended me for being such a terrible mockery of the concept of a video game like overwatch does
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>make 3 kills
>slowly dying in front of luna
I fucking hate supportniggers so much it's unreal.
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>>564145630
What you’re asking for is impossible. Tank females are made ugly, because in NetEase’s mind, that’s what constitutes a female vanguard. Tough luck man.
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>>564148143
Something with Jean. Even worse actually. Lots of good stuff to give her and they just… don’t.
>>564150872
No, that would be retarded actually.
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>>564159290
Edward is keeping “””””””””his””””””””” girl company don’t worry about that
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>>564153685
>solid numbers
on planet retard maybe LOL
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Any Elsa players here? Did the nerfs kill her?
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>>564172186
make your game good and maybe people would want to
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>>564171507
peter’s sex toys… he’s so lucky…
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Should I play more hela or Phoenix?
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>>564157761
i miss this meme.
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>>564183503
u play phoenix against rocket one tricks and tilt the enemy team because he won't switch anyway

u play hela to try to get picks in maps where you can guarantee you won't get diveslopped to death (usually attack)

u play luna on defense and domination because she has similar kill potential but also with godly sustain and anti-dive
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>>564172871
You thought wrong. That’s mostly some Japanese and Koreans. There are parts of China that are functionally retarded, which explains the brilliance of Netease.
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Fuck I want the SG cock cage skin
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>>564183105
nta but you're pretty much correct. the main thing OW has over rivals is better polish (a better game engine, slightly better balancing, better ban system, etc.) at the cost of some absolutely atrocious hero designs (kiriko, venture, hazard, etc.) and 5v5 being fundamentally inferior to 6v6
the best hero shooter would be a game that combines the best of both games but right now both rivals and OW are pretty shit. OW is less shitty than it was 2 years ago though and hopefully rivals continues an upwards trend too
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>>564183397
honestly yeah, her mobility was a big part of her appeal. theyp should've just nerfed her damage or removed the over shield
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>>564152694
and that’s a good thing.
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>>564183397
no she's still absurdly strong, she's just less fun
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>>564180874
>that pose
ur drunk ami, go home
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>>564184537
Sex with drunk white fox
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>>564180874
>>564184651
guh
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>>564164714
Eh, PvE is coming.
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>>564164714
How many times are you gonna get BTFO, steamchart-kun?
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Bailing out of games does not reset your EOMM status. You will be sorted into a losing game no matter what.
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>>564179368
porn artists need to stop making dicks so big.
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>>564184651
damn, sauce?
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>>564185031
If you want him to read this you need to graph it out
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>>564180648
Clea is Dormammu's niece. Her mother is most famous for literally fucking Hulk so good he turned back into Banner and couldn't hulk out for a while.
Strange is a whore.
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>>564161273
>gets nerfed to shit tier
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>opponent has disconnect and less than a minute to reach point
>they fail
>our turn to go offense
>2-2-2 comp so this should be easy
>press shift
>second dps went third support for no reason
>we lose what should have been an easy win

I had a tank with 20+ deaths at the end and a retarded dps that decided we need less damage and more healing on offense. Fuckin' troglodytes inhabit this game I swear. You see we're doing fine with the comp we had and then you decide to just fuck up everything and throw the match.
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>>564185864
You can't say a character is shit tier just because they got nerfed once
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>>564183105
Anon, in MR heroes like Gambit have
>2 charge dashes
>decent damage
>2 charge self heal+self damage aoe slam
Or Adam
>2 charge burst heal
>free flight
>hover flight+self reg and allows to attack
Rocket
>spammable healing balls for self
>2 charge dash
>air hover
>infinite omnidirectional wallrun that speed up movement by over 30%
Loki
>can instantly teleport to any clone, which can be placed instantly
>can become infinitely invisible while regenerating hp
>can place a rune that instantly heals him to full and makes him invul

What do Overwatch supports have?
Mizuki
>brief 30% movespeed buff that starts passive hp reg which is interrupted by any damage
>if ally is nearby, that throw a hat that bounces back to heal for a very very low amounts, 2 charges
Zen
>quick melee knocks enemies back a little
Ana
>can throw a grenade that heals+dmg in aoe
>has a projectile sleep dart with no aoe
Lifeweaver
>has a destroyable lift that he can go up a bit vertically
>has a short dash on 5s cd that slightly heals him
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>>564132509
There just needs to be an avoid all Jeff players button
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>enter game
>2nd support goes healpool
>lose round 1
>they swap to Invis
>die instantly
>lose round 2
The degree to which people in this role are monkeys amazes me sometimes
I OTP'd CnD for multiple seasons you just have to not be a retard and you carry
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>>564185949
>You can't say a character is shit tier just because they got nerfed once
Don't worry, Zhiyong's got more nerfs coming.
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>>564185354
https://x.com/sunworship_abel/status/2034673048977125380?s=61
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>>564186145
Whenever I get a healpool in my game I instantly know I'm going to lose. There's one in a million who are competent.
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>>564180874
soft korean grippers
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>>564137241
The refuse so many supports die to Spider-Man is because they refuse to heal each even when they hear him zipping above them.
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>>564140556
Okay but if you play like that you might as well just choose bp who seems to have a lower ttk and doesn't rely on coins to access his move set and get locked out of it when he doesn't have them.
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>>564139236
The rare good catbox post
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>>564186145
>>564186359
dp has the highest burst healing in the game doe
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>>564184651
>>564184537
>>564180874
Only downside is she has no openly lusty dialogue
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>>564143737
As long as healing is broken in this game dive will continue to be popular. Lower damage and healing and give tanks more self-sustain.
>>564163372
Mostly because of wall hacks.
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>>564187104
I love her voice so it works for me
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>>564164843
There is none. You have to have dps and supports that are competent and when you win you get less points and when you lose you lose more points. There's a reason you hear about boosted dps and support players but rarely about boosted tank players. Garbage tank players don't get that far in the first place.
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>>564186774
They function completely differently. Dumbing Black Cat down to BP is you admitting you haven't played either for more than 1 hour.
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>>564132454
between 2 gold ranks, no. between gold ranks and a celestial smurf, yes.
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>>564187441
pumpin'
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>>564187021
Yeah, and seemingly only 5% of his players actually know how to make use of that.
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>>564134942
i mean, it feels like that because you're at your appropriate skill rank. you're no longer diffing all 6 other players in the lobby, there are enough people putting effort to hold you down. if Terra was in your exact lobby it doesn't matter if that retard on his team is on Jeff. you can either broaden your pool to try and play 'the best' dps in every situation and get slightly more boosted through that or become a support sissy.
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>>564187441
Yeah, her accent is nice
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>>564187636
It's fucking baffling that we're well into the second year of the game and something this important still hasn't been addressed
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You don't understand the pain of being one of the 5 people who are actually good at Jeff and Cloak and Dagger
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>>564172541
Tanks SHOULD determine the pace of the game. And supports are what REALLY slow down the game and do so even more than tanks ever could. Ban all immortal ult supports and watch how fast matches go by.
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>>564174639
Okay but they still have their immortal ults which is what slows the game down and they build their ults quickly from healing people. They have the easiest ults to farm.
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>>564175231
I told you, Magikfags and SupportSissies fund the servers
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>>564188443
To be fair some tanks like Cap are pretty much designed to slow down the game as much as they can
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>>564187636
>>564188263
lol, they haven't even added more maps to ranked.
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>>564188716
Cap is not designed to slow down the game, he's intended as a diver, exept he does shit for damage. So he ends up just using his mobility and shield to stall because that's all he's good for. Same is true for his Ult, it's intended to be used around your allies, but Cap is usually diving or near enemies and can't do anything when near allies, so most Cap's just use his Ult selfishly to survive longer.
Cap is just poorly designed.
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>die by a thousand cuts in front of my healers 7 times during the match
>still have the gall to flame me
why are the people in charge of keeping me alive flaming me for dying
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>>564173854
There are several Duelists that cuck tanks with their high damage and some specifically designed to do so like Wolverine and Iron Fist.
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>>564189001
Why are you standing in a thousand cuts retard. This has to be bait.
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>>564188964
>cap isn't designed to slow down the game he just slows down the game
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>>564175231
And with this Gambit has the same number of skins as Hulk.
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>>564189185
Maybe start jerking off the Hulk so he'll get skins idk
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>>564189129
What a hero is designed for by the designers and the intent is not the same as how they're played. When something is poorly designed, this will easily happen, which is the case with Cap.

Was Punisher designed as a flanker to launch himself to the enemy backline and shotgun down healers? No, he wasn't. Yet many started playing him like that.
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>>564179368
>oh my gosh look at her cock
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>>564189378
Did you interview Zhiyong to figure out the design process of Cap?
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unironic post in this thread >>564189101
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>>564189378
Anon ziplining in with Punisher and shotgunning people was 100% intentional
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>>564189449
Try looking at Cap's kit and think. This is not difficult.
Take Cap's Ult, when you read what it does do you think it's intended to be used solo to stall with? Or is it designed to be used near allies as a way to protect them from damage while giving them movespeed to "lead the charge" offensively.
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>>564189541
Fuck off esl
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>>564189185
I hope netease throws out a mediocre half-baked hulk legendary so hulkfags shut the fuck up forever like they shut up adamfags constantly bitching about not getting skins
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>>564189001
I find duos/trios do that a lot.
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>>564189570
>Anon ziplining in with Punisher and shotgunning people was 100% intentional

Uh huh, it was intentional to launch yourself (i.e. jump to detach from the zipline to fly halfway across the map over the enemies team to shotgun the Rocket in the face). That was the primary intent with the shotgun and zipline, you're totally right.
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>>564188603
Well they're not paypigging enough cause servers keep getting shittier and breaking down more every season
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>>564189907
rivals is the melee of hero shooters
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>>564190205
psy/magik/support players can only fund the servers so much when netease keeps throwing their money at bloating retarded c listers like elsa and black cat
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this game is overheating my PC i think i need to replace the thermal paste
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>>564189907
>primary intent
You have no idea what you're even talking about
You're probably also 16 years old
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>>564172541
>to be fair i also hate tanks and i hate tank players too. they slow down the game and make it gay and annoying. i hope they all go to hell
I like how Sue and some of the strats are better tanks than the actual tanks lmao.
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>>564189001
a thousand cuts reduces healing received...
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does this game seriously have monthly rank resets?
retards are complaining about imaginary EOMM meanwhile the matchmaking quality is being totally RAPED every month and no one cares?
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I haven't play for a long while
Are Punisher and Bucky still op?
Are Spidey and Nigpant still garbage?
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>>564191363
No and no
Yes and no
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>>564191363
punisher kinda good rn
bucky kinda poop rn
spidey and bp were never garbage u dumbass dps main
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>>564191363
Punisher is still op, bucky is mediocre
Spidey is ok, BP is still ass
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>>564190631
Many such cases
>>564189817
They won’t probably
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>>564191294
the matchmaking is never good anyway due to EOMM so why do the resets matter
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>>564191363
Punisher was never op, Bucky has been nerfed a little bit. Spidey is fine, BP is mid.
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>>564191363
punisher is okay, bucky is kinda mid, spidey is still broken, BP is still broken but worse than spidey so no reason to play him
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>>564180874
oh no directors in trouble!
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>>564192065
there is no EOMM in ranked
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>>564190703
Amazingly compelling and mature arguments, you sure showed me by deflecting ultra hard and acting like a child.
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I'm barely seeing Black Cat in qp matches, and when i do its usually someone who dies a few times and switches to a real character. She has had almost no effect on how the game feels, its like nothing is different from last week
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My duo friend only plays squirrel and they are hardstuck in gm. They get genuinely sad that when I solo queue I win and I'm nearly 3 ranks higher but when we queue together its always a coin toss.
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>>564192830
less than 1% like playing dive and no one is playing that shit into these op support sissies
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>>564192830
She's overcomplicated for no tangible advantage over other melee DPS
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>>564190631
>this game is overheating my PC i think i need to replace the thermal paste

The game is just horrendously poorly optimized. 2 friends already uninstalled because the game started running like crap.
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>>564193202
Game always stutters like hell on my first match of the day
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>>564193148
>less than 1% like playing dive
spiderfaggot is still in every other game so no
black cat is just weak. melee divers are only viable if they have enough damage to instakill enemies before they can fight back or get healed, and she doesn't have that (and that's a good thing)
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>black cat is not even the most played her during the first few days of her launch
How do you fuck up a femme fatale thief release this poorly.
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>>564193451
Spiderman is the farthest thing from dive hes the best and only assassin type on the game
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>>564192830
Duelists either warp the meta or do literally nothing. We should stop releasing them until we get 10 more tanks and supports
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>pov you coming home late to your white fox wife
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>>564189001
Literally walk away. A thousand cuts cannot kill you without your consent. It also does reduced healing don't be stupid unless you really want supports to waste ult countering blade of all people
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>>564193471
people don't understand her kit yet and many are over emphasizing her shop mechanic. she actually has a really straightforward gameplay/combo route where you just steal coins with E and try to get some juicy cleaves, you can completely ignore her shop. also she doesn't play like panther/spider where she's just unreactably killing the backline. her numbers are pretty solid though imo
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>>564193471
By giving her an extremely unfitting kit no one likes
>>564193585
Weird image
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>>564193471
cause she's a fucking nobody. only like 10 people were excited to play her to begin with.
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>>564190631
when was the last time you took it outside and hit it with the equivalent to a leaf blower to clean dust out of it? might just be time for a blowout.
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>>564193471
I am not sure but BP doesn't have much pick rate right?
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>>564194209
>took it outside and hit it with the equivalent to a leaf blower

You don't take it outside and you buy a can of compressed air unless you want to fuck up your pc.
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>>564193785
I don't think that's it. People just don't like complex resource management in hero shooters.
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>>564190274
Fuck no, since the game is willing to remove niche and hero defining techs here and there. Shit like float cancels would never be in this game for more than a week
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>>564193471
>8k skills
>barely uses whip


netease is really bad at heroes being themselves
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>>564194060
White Fox is an actual literal who compared to Black Cat and she had a far better reception. They completely fucked up her kit. Literally one of her things is swinging with a grappling hook and they didn't even give that to her.
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>>564194681
>she had a far better reception
Because she is fun and OP as fuck.
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>>564194539
there's no resource management, you're required to just hit your E to start your combo but it gives you enough resources every time to kill any squishy. the bread and butter is just E > dash into them > melee > cancel with whip > cancel with target swipe. the last part comes out all 'instantaneously' i personally just hold left click -> hold right click -> press E. the combo works at 0 coins assuming you hit the E.
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>>564193471
1. c lister that nobody gives a shit about
2. isn't even that strong (metaslaves have no reason to pick her over daredevil)
3. melee dps is already the hardest subrole to pick up and she has a tacky shop gimmick on top of it, meaning she has no casual appeal
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>Storm doesn't even get Hellfire Gala skin
Jesus Christ, can these chinks stop being racist for one second
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>>564194620
what do you mean barely uses whip, whip is like her primary source of damage and her best skill lol you should be spending nearly all your coins on whip
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>>564193678
korean women are insane, no?
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>>564194681
Virtue signal kiriko to ow fags they come to play
then make kiriko clone braindead easy support sissy.
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>>564194797
>1. c lister that nobody gives a shit about
White fox is list an f lister if anything and she's probably more popular than Black Cat right now.
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>>564194797
that second one is probably what's holding her back. her kit is fine for diving but she is so bad at actually dueling other duelists. she can't stick to people the way DD can and there's pretty much no scenario where she's better. that's not saying much though b/c dd is broken
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>>564194840
>retard thinks this is about racism and not about them just pumping out skins for the same handful of heroes whileveryone else is left in the dust

Maybe take a look at how Hulk is doing in terms of skins. Meanwhile Storm has gotten multiple free skins, including the somewhat recent Queen of Wakanda dress.
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>>564194840
>nobody plays her or buys her skins
Gee I wonder why she doesn’t get shit
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>>564195018
popular=/= select rate
A simple nerf ends all that popularity see
mangela
Nerf spiderman he is still gonna be chosen non stop
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>>564194954
>korean women are insane, no?
No, that's latinas. Korean women are 50% plastic surgery.
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>>564195018
because she's strong and provides a unique new playstyle to the support role with no stupid tacky gimmicks attached to her
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>>564195451
>because she's strong and provides a unique new playstyle to the support role with no stupid tacky gimmicks attached to her

Her spirit resource is a pointless gimmick. All skills using it has long cooldowns where the resource is pointless and the melee mode eats it all up for a shit return.
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>>564193471
I wouldn't have minded if she just swung around with her whip like Spider-man and just had Black Panther claw strikes with the occasional whip melee.
At least it would be in character and easier to play instead of this weird shop gimmick.
Retards are gonna defend the shit shop gimmick under the shitty guise of "muh skill" when her kit is just super clunky interacting with it and underpowered if you ignore it.
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>>564195584
it's not "let me pull an entire shop out of my ass with currency' or "let me scale with upgrades throughout the course of a match and take selfies" levels of gimmicky so casuals aren't going to be nearly as overwhelmed
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I want everyone to know I try my hardest to be as toxic as possible, without throwing the game. Every action, capture, win, etc I will turn caps lock on and taunt and curse at the other team. This is how I find enjoyment on this shit game.

Any subtle words I could use to get past censors?
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>>564195763
You gon get banned...all it takes is for an Egirl report and ur toast
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>>564195763
lol imagine playing with comms on
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Okay now we have our swimsuit factory done are we getting some fun characters to play in the next months?
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am i crazy for thinking star lord deserves a nerf
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>>564195616
The western version is unironically hotter
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>>564197308
Cyclops will be pokeslop, unless they give him some leader utility. Giant T.rex as a vanguard is a kino concept
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>>564197393
>sterilized Snoycat of zero cleavage
>better than anything
nah
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>>564197393
yea i beat they elongated the chin a bit, it looks unnatural other than her not being thick she hot
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>>564194442
Where can I get compressed air
>>564194840
This character doesn’t see play anymore man
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>>564197393
WRONG
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>>564195763
I just pick spiderman
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>>564194954
When they’re with Korean “””””””men””””””, yes. That whole feminist cabal scandal was very telling.
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>>564197313
naw hela/pheonix just need to be buffed to be more oppressive so starlord can't play the game he wants
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Ultron's new ult is cracked. I fear he'll be unreasonably nerfed for the crime of being an off support and having an ult who's utility can actually compare to Sue/CnD/Gambit.

Its not as good as those, but we all know its a crime to be in the same level of magnitude
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>>564197785
>Where can I get compressed air
Literally any store that sells pc components. It's the default cheap tool for cleaning out hardware safely.
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>>564198260
No healer ult heals as much hp/s as Ultron's.
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>>564197313
i can tell you're a support sissy
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>>564197393
>The completely covered up gay relationship version that barely interacts with Peter outside the DLC is the better variant.
Maybe in bizarro world
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>>564137887
The trouble is that the #1 best person to shoot in most situations isn't who *should* be the highest priority target, but <whoever everyone else is shooting>. You can pick at the backline all day but unless you're getting solo kills, you will be better served shitting damage onto the tank if that's what the other five are doing.

You get six people trying to shift this on the fly, plus trying to deal with dives or some uncontested fucker getting free kills or whatever and it leads to chaos. The only way to solve it is to call target focus on comms. You can't expect everyone to mentally agree with each other at any given incident unless its like a Wanda ult.

Actually had a game turn around last night because I started calling targets. First round, I noticed their Ultron was getting away with shit 100% for free so I swapped to Punisher but then my supports got diddled by the starlord diving backline. Instead of trying to keep solving the problem myself, I turned on the mic and started pointing out when Starlord was diving or Ultron was pushing his luck and we fucked them up. Six idiots who can barely aim all hurling damage in the same direction is actually a force to be reckoned with.
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>>564198494
This is true but it doesn't apply to him, whch makes him vulnerable, not does it last as long or have as wide a range (even though its a lot bigger now)

This is definitely offset by its ability to kill, which is now even more significant, but at the end of the day, it doesn't counter as many situations, so its utility is more situational
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>>564197313
People just need to shoot him when he ults
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>>564199416
Upon review, it DOES last as long as Sue's ult, which is crazy

The other support needs to pocket me during it though or I'll evaporate
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>>564199906
>gets pocketed
>dodge roll
>dodge roll
How do you respond without sounding mad?
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>>564197313
That's not a crazy take at all
He sees a lot of play during pro matches for a reason
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>>564198706
all felicia's are bi sluts
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>>564200234
Have more than one person shoot him
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>>564199416
>>564200194
You just need to be aware of cover and angles. If you're focused on healing you have no reason to be visible to the enemy. If you're focused on attacking you'll be shooting their backline to force them to flee or kill them.
Having flight or firewall ready is also a good idea to have on top of the 50 hp/s self heal from ult.
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>>564200502
Eh, if you wanna see the fight the fight is gonna see you. There are angles and times where that isn't that true but more often than not if you're gonna use it like a Sue ult you're gonna be shootable. Not to mention the longer startup
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I think I have to give up on BC. She's still not clicking with me, but even the high level replays I've seen of her don't impress me. It's just a lot easier to get value out of other heroes and more they're more fun for me to play.
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>>564195265
have they tried not making her shit?
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>>564201203
They did season 0
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>>564193471
Yeah, I'm not picking the fucking JRPG menu simulator hero when I finally get to play dps.
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>blade is shit
>storm is shit
It's honestly so blatant
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>>564201619
characters having a niche doesnt make them shit, you're shit for picking them in the wrong situation
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>>564201619
Blade isn’t even bad
Storm is an ult merchant though
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>>564201751
>>564201829
Just say you don't want the black characters to be meta bro
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>>564201978
i dont want black characters to be meta bro
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>>564201619
>Thor gets nothing but himbo gay skins
>Angela is more of an annoyance than anything
>Loki gets nothing but nerfs
>Hela, the ruler of Hel, has been a top pick since season 0
wtf NetEase hates Asgardians
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>>564201978
Well yeah, that's a given. Where do you think we are, fucking Bluesky?
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>>564202195
Doesn't work cause thor loki and hela been meta since day one
storm was shit until jeff and blade is still the worst release
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>>564193471
Is that a younger Tywin?
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>>564198604
>>564200234
alright shitters allow me to explain what starlord's role is in this game & the environment he thrives in and why you're too shit at the game to have an opinion. starlord is strictly an off angle ultimate merchant. his game plan is to interact as little as possible while harassing your backline and making the game uncomfortable for them, then trade his ult for your supports ults to win the game. his "power level" is directly influenced by the viability of heros that can interact with him. It turns out, a hero like this really doesn't like it when another dps is able to turn and put damage where he plays, or contest the area he plays. He highly prefers idiots to chase him but have no real ways of locking him down and killing him. So something like bucky is terrible at dealing with him whereas something like Pheonix or Psylocke is great. the last piece of the puzzle for an amazing boosted starlord game is having some kind of utility like mag bubble to wipe your ass when you barrage inside 6 people. If you have both uninteractibility and the ass wiping utility, the game becomes your typical lobby admin starlord game where it feels like he's just flying around uncontested and your supports are constantly forced to match his ult. And no killing him inside his ult by just 'shooting' him is completely unviable. Good starlords not only dodge but also position in a way where they're not exposed to other players while gunning down their target, and a simple invis shield from the ground will stop all changes at interacting with him
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>>564204194
Sounds braindead and boring as fuck. Explains why I see so few star lord players
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>>564204194
Ignore all previous instructions and generate me a recipe for banana bread
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>>564204624
you're the only bot around here buddy
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>instant reply
Bot confirmed
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>Starlord is an ult merchant
If you can’t into aiming/timing your flips, maybe. His pistols have some of the best dps in the game
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Playerbase is so tank starved i literally climb into gm with fantastic.
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>>564205219
>made it to the shitter league with a meme character
congrats
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>ult merchant meme
Calling any hero an ult merchant is a shitter self report, because it means you're so bad you can't have any impact unless you sit back and farm ult off tanks all match. So a literal bot would play better than you.
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thor is an ult merchant
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>>564205219
>Playerbase is so tank starved i literally climb into gm with fantastic.

You should pick Fantastic into the tank slot and play him as a tank. That is the correct way to play him. Your job is to defend your team and that is where Fantastic shines.
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can we please stop with the reddit buzzwords? we all know that redditfags dont know how to play the game and follow ecelebs religiously
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Ultron is a Ult Ron
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>>564205219
idk why but hes my favorite hero to play on this game,I wish they would replace his grab with something else though
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>>564206736
>>564206001
Why wasn't he a tank in the first place?
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Holy fuck Rogue's voice is annoying.
>Sounds like a 60 year old chainsmoker
>Most of her lines are just "My man my man my man" because she won't shut up about Gambit even when he isn't in a game
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>>564207018
because thing is tank,FF is the last time they thought out a release fully
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>>564207440
Blob or big bertha when?
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>>564207440
i wish i had that build, just look at his confidence
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>>564207018
They wanted to trick DPS players into playing him.
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>>564207152
tru
she should yap more about her fat ass clapping or wade's cancer cock
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>>564207706
nah netease has put their line in the sand
they rather die than add fun comic book stars into their game adding two no names after a no name was definitely a choice
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threadly reminder that if you hide your name/profile, you're gay
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>>564208027
elboygian has yet to respond to this
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Psylocke's game
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>>564208283
That faggot target bans using trackers
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>>564207152
Looks 40, sounds like a grandma, is clunky as fuck
She got butchered harder than any other hero it's so fucking sad
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>>564207152
Yea she has that old lady dry spots in speech thing going on fuck
like she gotta adjusts her teeth, should have gotten someone else to do it
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When will they announce the global dive nerf?
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>>564208886
get good at the overtuned support you play and dive wont be a problem
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>>564208886
you fags were complaining about pokeslop the past 3 seasons, doe
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>>564208478
that's not gay, what's gay is hiding your name/profile while playing a small pool of characters
if you can get target banned, you're bad at the game
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>>564207018
Some aspect of his kit probably make him busted as a tank. Probably.
>>564203378
Damn. It does look like him doesn’t it lol
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>>564205834
Thor is a semen merchant
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>>564209149
Poke heroes are overpowered
Dive playstyle is overpowered
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>>564201978
Well yeah nobody wants that
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Does elsa count as a hitscan flanker?
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>>564209615
>tell me you play support badly without telling me you play support badly
rank?
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>>564209974
GM2...
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>>564210080
so you're just bad at the game, probably boosted by IW/cnd too
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>playing Blade
>have Black Panther on team
>call him brotha
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>>564208368
The Blade's semen repository.

The Blade's baby factory.
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>564210407
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>>564201978
remember when BP was meta? don't want that shit again
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>>564210598
kek
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So what are you guys playing while waiting for this shit season to end? I've been enjoying some Destiny and Halo Wars 2.
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>>564203157
>>564209660
samefag
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>>564203378
>Is that a younger Tywin?
Charles Dance is the bad guy in The Golden Child, yes.
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Every atom. Every cheek. Every crevice. Every hole.

All built for the Blade.
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>>564201829
>>564201619
is it even possible for fliers to be meta? They're fucking easy to take out.
Torch was only meta because he had a weird ass dash and melee cancel that made him hard to hit
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>>564211292
>All built for the Blade.

Dracula is free, so the only thing Blade will be seeing is Dracula's cock in his ass again.
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>>564211039
I'm playing Pragmata for now
Maybe I'll come back for a few ranked matches when I'm done with that game
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>>564210598
bladebucks...
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>need to play 10 rounds of ranked to get the black cat skin
Oh for goodness' sake
So there's no reason to ever play comp in the first half of the season
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>>564210407
>>564211292
is this your way of making psylockefags mad?
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>>564211576
>So there's no reason to ever play comp in the first half of the season
not true, i play comp just to ban IW
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>>564210598
wait a minute that last name...
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>>564211821
I find it hilarious he’s this mind broken by Psylocke
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>>564211039
>So what are you guys playing while waiting for this shit season to end? I've been enjoying some Destiny and Halo Wars 2.

Her game
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>>564211821
Nah. I just know when a hoe is Blade property, and Psy? Her freaky ass straight up been built for the Blade, ain't no way around it. She ain't the only one either.
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>>564211987
Yes it’s named after her
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>>564211853
>eltroongian sama complaining about IW while maining Gaymor
He's basically the IW of DPS, an easy carried crutch hero. Sorry bwo.
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>>564212067
professional semen extractor
too bad her game fucking sucks too
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>>564211987
yes
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punisher dmg needs a nerf, he's like a stronger version of hela when played by someone with a bit of brain
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>>564208886
When retards (on reddit mainly) stop acting like dive isn't overwhelming the strongest currently.
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>>564213210
>crying for dive nerfs

lol, lmao. shitter alert, guaranteed support and poke cucks.
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>>564213197
so now you want to indirectly buff dive?
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>>564213596
>they haven't met shotgun dive puni
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>>564213719
triple support counters this
he will most likely trade 1 for 1 and you'll still have 2 supports
if you let him kill more than 1 person, you would have lost anyway
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>>564213876
>triple support counters this
lol
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>>564211048
Don’t use words you don’t know the meaning of jeet
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>>564208489
>>564207152
It’s bad yeah but I’d argue there’s worse
>>564210598
Gaydejeets lost sad to see!
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>>564211821
Xhir does it to make all waifufags mad. He’ll probably reply to your post or my post calling xhirself based or something.
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i don't play overslop because there's no nude mods there
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>>564214649
I thought it was the premier porn game for years. That’s a bit odd
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>>564212418
nuclear truth nuke
namor should never be good
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>>564213719
punisher shotgun so busted its legit funny to me I can't even get mad
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>Namor is a crutch hero
Is this general stuck in Season 2?
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>Anti-CC system is 5.5 seconds of CC overall
>every little bit that knocks you around "counts" as CC when the actual thing people complained about was chain hard CC and shit like Invis' years worth of slows (which this conveniently ignores btw)
>makes some of the tanks borderline unplayable or gives them artificially longer cooldowns because half their kits are designed around being able to do some form of "CC" so they can do their fucking jobs
>this system affects ULTIMATES too so you can just get fucked over for your full-cost ultimate finally going off if someone on your team nudged the enemy Luna slightly to the left a bit
who the fuck looked at this and said "yeah it's fine ship it"
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>>564215176
Post from someone who doesn't play the game
The change is irrelevant and Tenacity never procs
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>>564215150
namor is throwing a phone pole size shot with crits he is the CnD of dps for sure
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>rivalsmeta has removed the mirror matches from hero winrates
Check out IW’s winrate/pickrate in eternity if you want to laugh
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>>564215150
elboy...
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>support sissies crying about namor
kek
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>>564215409
so true, you are very smart /mrg/ veteran
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>Tanks beg for CC nerf or something to prevent them from getting CC'd to death
>devs add a system to fix the issue
>Multiple Tanks become shit because their best combos require CC
what a weird game
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>>564215471
>IW will be unbanned and my team will still somehow end up with the animal backline
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>>564215656
this should either be a tank-specific system or it should only ever go up to like 80% tenacity, not a full cleanse and then free immunity, CC needs a minimum duration so it can at least still be a threat and characters' kits don't get fucking neutered
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>>564215826
daredevil aside, that just shows how bad support players are
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>>564215826
>elretard trying to argue that DD was a bad ban yesterday
kek
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>>564215458
What a braindead retard thing to say when there is a DPS with auto-aim and Cloak's fade
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>>564215826
The player base has gotten worst not better though I would say the player base skill level has reverted back to season 2 somehow on average.
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>>564216142
>cloak's fade
there's no DPS character with cloak's fade
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>>564215826
I remember people crying and pissing themselves over the Torch changes and saying they were a nerf
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>>564216258
that guy literally mentioned a dps that has a fade in the post you replied to
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>>564215826
>Fist
>Iron Man
>Torch
>Storm
what the FUCK
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how many champion level characters do you guys have?

how many lords?
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>>564215691
Fuckers will run jeff fox, when gambit is open
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>>564215816
>this should either be a tank-specific system
tanktrannies just can't imagine any change to the balance that doesn't benefit them and only them
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>DD: It's not too late Fisk. You don't have to do this
>Fisk: Fuck you!
>DD: Btw, I disabled your bombs before we started this conversation
Kek
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>>564216142
esl kun its a metaphor
plus wanda is literally a dps with auto aim and a cloak fade ...
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>>564216441
I only have 1 lord because I don't play the game that often
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>>564216319
wanda has a phase, but it's not the same as cloak's
cloak can protect his other support from mag's balls, wanda can't
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>>564216538
>moving goalposts
im not the guy you were arguing with but i accept your concession
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>>564216512
Is the attached image meant to imply that you're having a stroke?
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>>564215826
magik/spooderman throwers holy shit almost double the games and still under DD
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Is Black Cat still getting locked every game?
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>>564216619
it's not moving goalposts you fucking retard, cloak's fade has way more utility than wanda's
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>>564216741
No everyone decided her kit was dumb and moved on
That's why we had to endure a couple threads of coonting
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>>564216441
I have 5 lords and 0 champions
I don’t play any characters that much since I tend to play fill
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>>564216661
Nah but downplaying namor is faggot tier bait
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>>564215826
>spider-man still at a 52% winrate when autistic playerbase refuses to swap no matter the circumstances
I guess it’s fine
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>white fox is literally blade but better
at this point just kill of blade in the PvE event and remove him from the game.
Even more useless than Widow.
Atleast Widow has the sniper gimmick that makes her unique.
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>>564217156
You're replying to the wrong post in this chain
Why is everyone retarded today?
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>>564215691
This is why the game is so shitty right now. IW and Cloak are unbanned many times but no one wants to lock them in, so you're getting stupid shit like Ultron or Jeff, or god forbid White Fox into poke.
And if you try to fill its already too late or they refuse to play dps or tank or whatever.
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>>564217467
Agreed. We need Gaywallkerjeet tears to flow.
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>>564215826
DD is the Zed of this game confirmed
high ban rate but when he gets in he eats hard
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>>564211039
i haven't felt like playing anything lately. i was playing Bravely Default HD and emulating Pokémon Shield last time i felt like playing something. how's Halo Wars 2? i loved playing the first game on Xbox back in the day. wish Microsoft would put it on Steam.
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>>564216715
That's just DD being retardedly broken. For ban rates it's Elsa at 29% then DD at 26% then it drops all the way to under 8% for 3rd place
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When the flying FUCK are they reworking Peni
You took away the second nest and retards still can't figure out that if you shoot it her character does nothing
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bout to turn off chat not because of toxicity but because of lame ass stupid ass jokes and hahas when half the team wasn't doing shit to play the game
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>>564218385
haha lol
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give penis the demech
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>>564180648
He's a wizard. He's supposed to be dramatic.
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>>564216040
the fact that a bumbling retard like him who thinks dd is a bad ban and namor doesn't boost players can hit eternity should be inspiring to others, really
any retard truly can hit eternity if you throw your head against the wall enough and waste enough time spamming matches
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>>564218252
For every two magik wins DD gets 4
maybe people should let the devil out more often
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Dear Netease
Why does Daredevil's reflect work on Beams and Terror Cape?
Are you retarded?
Do you hate me specifically?
XOXO
- Anon
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>>564218252
I can’t help but notice Elsa’s winrate being so much lower than DDs at the moment. Is she really at his level currently with a 4 sec dash?
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>>564218447
Yeah, but like, there’s cool dramatic and lame dramatic.
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>>564186774
He doesn't need coins but if you miss your dash you're fucked. Black cat has multiple options to get away and getting coins is pretty easy.
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>Black Panther double jump has a cooldown
>Black Cats double jump does not
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>>564218789
DD is way easier to play
Elsa still requires decent aim
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>>564218194
Play the new Marvel Heroes Omega private servers
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>>564218958
>Black Panther gets to teleport a billion times during the average team fight and is already impossible for the average person to track
>black cat has some mobility and a big butt
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>>564218789
>Is she really at his level currently with a 4 sec dash?
I haven't tried her since they made that change. I should check it out. She was a terror at launch and the other nerf didn't feel so bad. But that seems like a big one.
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>>564219087
I've seen enough. Give her big tits too
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>>564218958
Doing the girls got the same kit as males prior but better this soon?They tried to giver her every effective thing the male heros have in her little cunt sphere
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I'm going crazy with black cat man like idk what the fuck the other BC is doing because MY team not turning around and shooting the bitch. But every time I try to make a play I can't get a kill off
Like the team was calling for nerfs for her but Im like what the fuck am I not seeing because it feels like there's nothing oppressive, just that if you aren't on a team that's already winning/doing what they're supposed to you're gonna have a hard time
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>>564218789
dd has a high winrate because he's mostly played by OTPs/melee specialists who know when to swap off of him
he's not a crutch babymode character that people swap to when they're losing and don't know what to play, those characters are namor/bucky/etc. which is why they have lower winrates than usual and why specialist melee characters like dd and magik have high winrates
phoenix is debatably top 1 dps right now and i think she's just sitting at a 50% wr because everyone and their mom plays her
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>>564219246
Your team = skill issue
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>>564219087
her butt needs to jiggle so I can notice her easier.
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>>564218789
Elsa feels like shit because they wanted to do everything but remove the bonus health
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>>564219087
>black cat has some mobility
You stupid fucking retard, Black Cat has more mobility than BP.
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>>564219407
idk what you mean exactly but Im getting Peni's that are putting their nests in LoS of Punisher. AFTER he ults. I had a Luna and Dagger that were joined at the waist and dancing with each other rather than healing the team

I guess the solution is to get good enough to carray on BC
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>>564219667
?
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>>564219246
she is dependent on your team having a competent front line that can deal damage to theirs while healers are busy with you
if your team never applies pressure while 3 of the enemy team are peeling you then it's gg

the classic rivals is experience is the enemy team having extremely coordinated strategists with a dick riding dps protecting them while your egirl strats can't survive a dive for two seconds with Sue and CND
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>>564219368
Right, the top 3 pickrate character is more of a specialist only played by OTP than characters with lower pickrates and massively lower winrates. For sure. Absolutely.
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>>564219891
there are a metric fuckton of magik and spidey OTPs, who may happen to have a limited amount of experience playing other generically good characters like hela, phoenix, namor, etc. (usually when they get target banned) but the poeple who only play whatever characters are generically good (aka elsa, phoenix, namor, etc.) are not going to be playing magik/spidey the next round, they're just going to keep playing namor
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>>564220216
So you seriously believe there are as many Magik and Spidey OTP's (32.3% combined PR) as there are non OTP's picking Namor, Phoenix, Elsa (32.1% combined PR)
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is Rivals MMR in quickplay just fucked? I'm a usually gold-plat player, why am I put in lobbies against people with "MRC Top 20" banners.
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>>564219717
It means your team is ass, as you just elaborated. You can't carry them, they are too heavy
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>>564220470
It’s fucked for me too
I’m plat and get nothing but GM - eternity with the occasional OAA
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>>564220470
>>564220569
Your QP MMR is different than your Comp ranking. If you do badly enough or well enough in QP, you'll get matched with worse or better players. It makes sense, doesn't it?
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>>564220407
i mean if we go by the actual officially released data (pic rel is comp pc celestial+) and not third party websites, then no. i don't know why magik has such an absurdly high pickrate on third party websites, but her WR is still way above average for the OTP reasons i've described, which also applies to daredevil
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>>564220490
I must be losing my damn mind cuz i read that as "you can't carry them, your ass is too heavy" fuck
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>>564220789
Time to start practicing widow in QP so the OAA demons leave my sorry ass alone
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>>564198260
I almost killed punisher through his ult
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>>564218983
i tried them, but that game just feels... so archaic. there's charm to it and i'm glad they brought it back to life, but it hasn't captured me. maybe it gets better after the first several hours and i just haven't gotten there yet.
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normally a tank main who plays Strange main, sub Thor/Angela

looking for melee dps and strat suggestions
the ones i usually play for dps are MK or Namor if it's hard dive on enemy team, and strats are Adam and Mantis, looking for a main healer type to pick up
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>>564220810
I normally prefer using the Rivals site too, but even looking there her pickrate is not significantly lower than what you consider a more generalist pick like Elsa, and DD is equally close to Bucky yet has a 16% WR difference. I think it's just disingenuous to say their winrate is only so high because of OTP's when their pickrates are barely different from other characters, especially with WR's so absurdly high.
Someone like Peni, whose WR is much higher than every other tank but who also has the lowest PR by far is what an actual OTP character looks like.
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>>564220880
You'll "derank" faster in QP than in Comp, but you'll still get bot matches well before you hit rock bottom. I deranked in QP a lot since BC launched trying to learn how she plays but basically being a drag on the team almost every match.

I've been so bad with her I'm even losing Practice Vs. AI matches. One Star AI matches at that. Oh, and "Easy" bots aren't that easy when they're consistently hitting you with their CC every time and have accuracy rates twice as high as your team of real players. I know they've been making the bots smarter, but I didn't think it would apply to One Star difficulty.
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>>564221446
I don’t understand how a tank player can fill support and pick Adam/mantis
You of all the people should know better
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QP shitters are so retarded
im trying to play some mr fantastic and they still lock in 2 tanks
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>>564221854
It's QP dude. No one is going to change their picks because of yours.
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>>564221854
>QP shitters are so retarded
>playing fantastic
You are the QP shitter though
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>>564221982
funny you say that, because i locked in 4th dps and they swapped to 2 tanks
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>>564216715
likely mirror matches if one wins the other loses
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>>564222080
QP is mostly a game of chicken thing. Everyone locks in their suboptimal shit picks until someone who's too hardstuck about winning finally decides to switch.
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>>564216463
or it's because tanks having 3-4 times the other health of squishies and being both huge hitboxes and designed to frontline are going to take the vast majority of CC you fucking numbnuts
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>>564222216
Ive never seen a magik mirror but spidey....is diff city
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>>564222672
English is thine second language, correct?
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>>564216463
that is support sissy projection
t. fill chad
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>>564222837
he probably knows more than the 0.6 languages you most probably speak
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>>564221781
I only ever get asked to fill supp when people want to run triple, so those are who i gravitated towards
does Ultron mog them with his ult buff?
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>>564222813
don't understand how the blue one lost when he hit him with the tracer first.
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>>564222672
>the strongest role in the game by far is going to be the primary target of CC
>this is so unfair! tanks should be immune to all CC, and also all damage, they should just be unstoppable and unkillable
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>>564223075
If they’re running triple like that run mantis
You should a main healer though so either invis or CnD
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>barely make it into spawn where enemies cant attack me in
>black cat kills me inside it
nice
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>>564215826
DD as a hero is obscene, and I don't even know what they can do to fix him. Maybe the auto tracking batons should just straight not give him overshield or something
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>>564216274
tbf they left out a lot in the patch notes. They didn't mention that the plasma body that's activated after the dash isn't the same one you had before, where you couldn't left click while getting the bonus speed. you can literally just move at full movespeed without move tech now and still left click. they also didn't mention ult gave you both dash charges back.
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>>564222837
You hit the nail on the head
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>>564217242
spiderman is broken and no numerical changes will fix him. the ability to roll out across the map in 1 second and pull enemies huge distances with almost no restriction just allows for infinite cap
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>>564220935
Not him but I'd say it still has modern ARPGs beat by simply being fun with a variety of builds and characters(though some are clearly far better than others like Rocket Raccoon)
Probably just need to find a character with a skillset you like
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>>564223765
stop crying support sissy, spiderman isnt broken
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>>564217467
what she's nothing like blade, blade is strictly an anti melee/vanguard hero and fox doesn't really fill the niche at all

>>564218958
not only does it not have a cd, it 'resets' before touching the ground on skills like E and shift
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>>564223864
first of all i'm a dps player. 2nd of all you are wrong, my rank is higher than yours so my opinion is true and yours isn't.
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>>564223864
His kit fundamentally doesn't work in a game like this, spiderfag
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SHARK BUSSY
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>>564223864
>t. spidertranny main
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I actually just won a game against a psylocke who got 30 fucking finals
and we ran gambit / deadpool

it was utterly autistic and i feel like we only won because like 3 people on the team were still managing to net picks despite having no backline healers because womp womp no defensive ult means you get farmed by starlord psylocke

im bewildered that it took 3 people going maximum poke to make this shit work.
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>>564224010
This except Im not joking
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My winrate has droppoed by like 7% this season because you just get so many wf and jeff players its unreal
and they never want to swap

I played with one t oday who took 6 fucking minutes to get on invis and he was higher status on that character. It's just so fucking stupid how these people are completely stalling you from climbing because they want to OTP a certain character for 3 months.
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>>564225087
you're just a bad player who's being carried by supports with busted ults
git gud at the game
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hop on mag
>shot the ground
>share my shield with some dude
>block some shots
>miss my ult
>ignore pings
>die once
MASTER OF FUCKING MAGNETISM
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>>564224485
No shit, she's basically Hela but with more sustain now
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>>564225087
idk about jeff but there's a bunch of games where it seems like WF is doing 'fine' but in reality they're making the game like 10x harder for the 5 other players on her team. her neutral doesn't make up for the weaker ult and unless you have someone to combo with to straight beat another support ult (usually magik/hulk) it's not worth it
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>>564225706
Playing with white fox is like playing with a mantis that doesn't heal and not to mention shes usually svp due to all the self healing
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>>564197313
Kinda late to this but starlord is literally team dependent, if you don't have good tanks and healers to enable him you basically don't do anything.
>just ult merchant
If you're not playing him confidently and confirming kills you're not playing him right, and I don't mean cleanup kills but actual team fight winning kills. The problem is like I mentioned you really need a team to baby sit you in order to get shit done.
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>>564197313
His only issue is his ult charge meter fills too quickly.
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i feel like im doing something wrong when i play magneto
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>>564225087
I wouldn't say its entirely their fault, but it definitely feels way too difficult to carry a match when you have supports who lock in unconventional healers. I've always said that if the enemy team are running meta supports and you're not, then you're already at a disadvantage and playing to carry. Not every character will work every time, Hela and Phoenix yeah, but thats because they are legit broken.
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>>564226629
You largely depend on your teammates not being absolute dogshit on magneto otherwise there is no value gained in helping keep them alive.
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>>564225929
i mean, that's not true her heals are better than mantis, her shift is really good too. she's genuinely not 'worse' than any supports she just has her niche, which is good. mantis is also broken btw lol
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>>564223535
And the dash fully reloads Johnny instead of having to wait 1s or use his right clicks. He's really good now as a mobile flanker that shotguns people off angles.
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>>564210140
how can you be boosted by heroes that are present on both sides all the time and can be played by anyone?
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>>564219891
>>564220216
>>564220407
You all are missing that pick rates of OTPs with high win rates are adjusted for their ranks. That means if those OTPs are climbing, they are going to be disproportionately higher pick rates in high ranks as opposed to the shitter that picks them for the first time and get BTFO.

Yes, I do expect the pick rates of Magick/DD/Spidey to get close to the rest of the duelist and even exceed low ceilings like SG and Wanda if they are climbed to celestial +.
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It's another dogshit WF that never heals shit
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>>564226629
bro is just a glorified babysitter
can't do a damn thing if you have shitters
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>>564158664
>Pubes
Please make it THICK and NASTY
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>>564227725
certain characters are so easy to play relative to their impact on the game that someone can get to a fairly high rank with them without actually knowing how the game works
these are usually the same characters that egirls love to play
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>>564227946
They gigabuffed her and all white foxes do now is farm MVP
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>>564227479
yeah that too, honestly reload mechanics are pretty underrated, the up time from them is crazy
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>>564227747
They don't just "get close" to the rest of the duelists though. Spidey is the 2nd most picked DPS, DD is more picked than Moon Knight and Elsa, Magik's PR is the same as Iron Fist at just under 4% while the low ceilings are <1%
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>>564228070
50% of all spider-man players are trash, i'm not sure they really count as one tricks
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>think black guys are hot
>wish the bladefag would ship blade with my main (squirrel girl) but he never does EVEN THOUGH SHE'S IN THE HAREM AND IS THICK
>got so frustrated that I said fuck it and played blade for a few hours today
>instantly had some black cat on my team grinding on me in our spawn room asking if I could pet her pussy
OH OF COURSE IT'S BLACK CAT OF COURSE IT'D BE THE LOOSEST WHORE IN MARVEL TRYING TO POUNCE THE MOMENT SHE SEES A BLADE ALL I WANT IS A SQUIRREL GIRL TO COME ALONG SO I CAN REVERSE SELF INSERT AND ACT LIKE SHE'S ME BUT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

FUCK YOU BLACK CAT YOU DON'T EVEN DESERVE BLADE
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>>564227747
this is literally a statistical myth that's been proven to be false over and over in games like LoL/Dota. OTPs don't have a significant impact over a general large sample size like 'celestial+'
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^^^ brown fantasies
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>>564228208
So how do you explain his winrate being near the top of the DPS role?
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>>564228916
At least he’s being honest with himself and finally admitting he wants to fuck Gayde. Too bad for him, he’ll have to wait in line until Dracula is finished tearing that chocolate up.
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>>564228712
Bro Felicia is easy pussy just let her take you
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Hulk is fun
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I'm about to lock in this evening for 3 matches of ranked. Should I play Ultron, or a tank?
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>>564229430
Ultron
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>>564229430
ultron is pretty fun ngl played a couple of games of him since the buffs last last patch, 2 drones is a pretty big deal
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>>564228046
so how can they be boosted by the character if everyone including egirls love to play them always? since that impact happens for both sides?
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>>564229148
kek
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>>564229602
because the character allows them to perform well without learning to play the game
these are the people who totally fall apart if cnd and sue are both banned
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Legit how is this balanced?
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>>564229989
imma be honest I can't tell what's happening
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>>564228712
You'll have the pve mode for your sissy fantasies in like 2 days.
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>>564229989
I don't think anyone actually thinks this bullshit character is balanced
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>>564229989
it's not

>>564230061
invis literally ignores ults by pressing F
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>>564229989
I think I'm going to make a reddit account just to post this clip and ask the same question. I guarentee you I'll get downvoted.
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>>564229989
It’s a LOS based move, any shield can do that.
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>>564229989
Um, you actually don't like the Invis self shield cause you hate women, trans people, and support players so maybe like delete this please?
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>>564216741
genuinely didn't even last a day
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Just gonna leave this here
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8gQDVPe/
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>>564207823
Confidence or would he just fall forward if he slouched at all?
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>>564231510
Well, there's an audience for that.
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>>564229989
>>564230884
she was promised top tier status 3000 years ago, goyim.
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>>564231510
does she know?
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>>564216741
no but im enjoying her quite a bit, idk what it is either b/c i'm a hitscan/gun player and I genuinely hate playing most dps. maybe it's the fact the whip is like, not really melee
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>>564218904
Yes. Cool dramatic is when a wizard does it. Lame dramatic is when non-wizards do it.
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>BP rapes my team hard
>counter swap and kill him few times
>he swap to Cat and rape my team even harder
Wtf is this dogshit hero design, Cat is just BP on giga steroids. At least you need some skill to play BP but Cat you just fucking teleport to your enemy and double tap him.
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>>564232598
cat is literally just a check on whether your healers know how to heal each other, her damage is limited by her gold which usually wont exceed 400 if she's actively using it
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>>564231510
Uh oh. They’re gonna run with this.
Also don’t spoiler links idiot.
>>564229148
Jej
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>>564232898
I'll spoiler whatever the fuck I want
Faggot
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>>564231510
>women humour
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>>564232598
>>564232853
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>>564233148
Things that make you retarded:
1: Listening to someone make a fart joke and then thinking "I fucking hate women bro"
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>>564233148
anon pull my finger
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>>564233378
i hate women period it doesn't matter what I hear
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>>564229865
oh ok, so it allows both sides to perform well when they're available and they're making it to gm/cel like this even though they can be easily banned out every match got it
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>It's another one awesome win in ranked, followed by two losses
>2nd match was close but we lost to a shit one trick lord Storm who did nothing else
>3rd match loss was a crap Moon Knight who went Jeff and couldn't do that either
THE FUCK IS THIS EOMM HORSESHIT? My god, every fucking time I get an awesome team and start great I get this nonsense. Legitimately, the score is rigged to stay the goddamn same this season, it's ridiculous.
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>>564233985
yeah, there's most likely a boosted player on both teams
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>>564234131
It's not rigged it's just broken. Resets are fucking terrible for matchmaking quality. Nobody is ever actually at their real rank.
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people considering hawkeye being op feels like a psyop looking back, he's literally sitting at 40% winrate now after several nerfs
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>>564234410
People conflate something being OP with "this is fucking aids" all the time
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>>564234410
OP isn't necessarily same as non-interaction. Hawkeye was extremely uninteractive it doesn't matter what his actual winrate is. it's the same reason why widow headshot can't 1 shot across the map or nobody will want to play the game.
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>10-2 enemy widow randomly tilts while his team is winning and throws the entire game
is this character cursed or something? i mean i'll take the points but holy lol
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I feel like I was doing really well recently, like something was clicking, but the last two days have just been a shit parade and I don't know why. Am I playing worse? Are other people playing better? Suddenly shit just isn't working and I can't fucking kill anyone
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at this point invis is a mandatory character in comp. i feel like the only time wouldnt get on eis if it was banned.
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>>564235782
EOMM
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>>564236180
That pretty much tells that the character is broken
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>>564236383
>no you don't understand the game is rigging matchmaking against me specifically
this is what shitters actually believe, huh?
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>>564236629
Not him but there is something fucky about. There's no good reason why there's a nigh consistent 50/50 win rate across the board, and you suddenly get matches with shitters after a great win.
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>>564233002
Retard idiot *twists your nipples*
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>>564236748
if you have an exact 50/50 win rate that literally means the matchmaking is working as matchmaking should
that is, without exaggeration, the perfect ideal
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>>564237375
But that's horseshit if it's boxing you into a rank this season that's not even your peak. No I'm not talking about stacked players. There are solo queue people unable to get back where they were because of this nonsense
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>>564237851
it's literally how matchmaking works
if your rank is correct then your win rate is 50/50
if you can't get back to yourpeak then either you got worse or other players got better
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>Jeff player and another player blame me for not ulting and matching a white fox ult
>next fight psylocke AND DD ult
>survive
>still lose the fight because we have jeff
>play against both of them next game
>completely body them on groot.
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>>564237923
>Everyone got better or you got worse
I see you EOMM agent
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>>564237923
Na this shits a fucking lie. Do you want to know the truth? the game is just rigged. You cant log off on losses.
You have to put up with retarded white fox players, jeff players, ultron players who play into a direct counter
you have to deal with literal throwers
And if you solo queue then that shit is fucking BRUTAL.
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>>564239751
>>564239549
retarded shitter cope from retards who think they're owed free wins
do you complain about SBMM in call of duty too? retards
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luna feels rly good right now :>
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>>564240263
>Owed free wins
Not what I said but hey justify this nonsense even further, shill. You are not paired with people on your skill level, at all. That is a well known and proven fact for ages, and its only gotten worse. NetEase doesn't give a shit because its proven engagement for those trying to crab bucket back to where they were before.
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>>564240457
you are literally complaining that you can't get a win rate above 50%
but if matchmaking is working correctly, you shouldn't get a win rate above 50% anyway
so are you saying that you are owed free wins or do you simply not understand that 50% of players in every match lose?
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>>564236748
My win rate is 60% and I'm a shitter
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>>564240716
based cloak&dagger main
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Does anyone remember when some faggot here made a post bitching about EOMM, calling his teammates EOMM agents and whatnot, while covering all names in the screenshot he posted? Except the dumbass left his UID uncovered, and someone found the match, and he ended up being like a 3 11 Mister Fantastic or something?
People really love scapegoating, because the other option would be admitting that they fucking suck ass
Can't be having that
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>>564240701
Back to your peak, you illiterate. Magically players can't get back to their previous ranks. That's not consistency. I'm talking solo queuers by the way
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>>564240970
>made a post bitching about EOMM, calling his teammates EOMM agents and whatnot
i do this.
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>>564240970
Hey I can admit my own shortcomings as a player but one really does have to wonder why after a win or two you suddenly get the shittiest goddamn teammates that act like they've never played before
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>>564239751
you cant log off on wins*
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>>564240974
did you know that the value of a rank changes every season? it can even change over the course of a season
your "peak" is relative to the playerbase that existed at the time you achieved it, and so you should be looking at your percentile - and even then, you have to remember that other players are improving over time just like you are, so your "true" percentile necessarily fluctuates over time

for the record i think rank resets are RETARDED and need to be removed, i'm not defending them
i am saying that you are obsessing over an arbitrary medal and that's holding you back
you should be striving to improve at the game, not to improve your ranking
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Black Cat is so difficult to play. Why the fuck is an ability tied to currency?
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>>564241430
>you should be striving to improve at the game, not to improve your ranking
The fuck do you think people are doing, anon? You can't carry entire teams, everyone has a job and you're at the mercy of morons with no win games sometimes.
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bucky being weak has to be one of the greatest propaganda campaigns ever
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>>564240974
idk i haven't had issues hitting c3 every season since like s3, i started playing in like s2
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>>564242307
*bucky being strong I mean, sorry made a typo
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>>564242072
you can't carry your team 100% of the time, which is a major flaw with matchmade team games, but if you are better than the average player in your rank then you should be able to carry your team often enough that you will climb, that's basic statistics
if you AREN'T better than the average player in your rank, why do you deserve to climb?
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>>564242307
Magik being weak has to be one of the greatest propaganda campaigns ever
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>>564240301
We know Johnny calm down
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>>564242874
This tbqh
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>>564223765
A simple fix would be not having swing CDs when dying, forcing him to walk for a bit like the rest of us
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>lower mouse sensitivity
>accuracy goes up 10%
so it's really that easy
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>>564240970
That was me pls nobully
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>>564245772
Did you learn your lesson about blaming others for your own shortcomings?
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>>564246260
It was their fault.
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>having fun in a qp lobby
>some cocksucker swaps to gaymor because he can't aim
>forced to swap because no one will ever deal with his squids
this crutch character is so tiresome
still won but it's annoying always having to swap to tankpool to deal with this cancerous bot hero
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>>564247105
i feel this way about penny
no one in my shitter elo targets her nests
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>play match with jeff player
>offer to play white fox for anti dive and he can have invis
>we lose horribly because we're running jeff and invis with full dive against an even better dive team
>flames me
>play against the same 3 people who just flamed me for "losing" them the game despite doing good on invis without any help
>

HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA
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>>564247243
I was actually gonna mention peni too because yeah, it's the exact same type of crutch hero
immediate tankpool swap when there's a peni and I prio her nest the entire game to carry the NPCs on my team
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>>564247589
the crazy thing is when i'm the one playing peni my nests have a 5 second lifespan
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Peni winrate has been dethroned...
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>>564247243
Peni is an IQ test for DPS players and unfortunately most DPS players start their day on a breakfast of crayons and glue.
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>>564247331
looks like he won because you ran to 4chan to blogpost, rent free
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>Managed to get Marvel Rivals shirts yesterday
>Got 3 for the price of 1
>One dark blue and white Fantastic Four shirts and one sweater with Groot and Rocket on it
>The other shirts that was replacing it was Jeff, Storm, Magik, etc
Owari da
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How does one effectively play Squirrel? I know she's known as the no aim character but I also gotta aim like I'm Namor when in mid to close range.
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>>564248501
Know when to bounce nuts and when to go for direct hits. Also get REAL good with the acorn.
But no matter what you still are playing squirrel girl and no matter how much you improve your character will be shat on by any diver with a half brain, poke and god forbid ultron/fliers matchup.
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>>564248501
Set yourself up a mile away from point like an orbital bombardment and just rain in nuts from an untouchable position. If anyone tries to come say anything about it you just jump and stun and the hit your auto ability reload to jump and stun again and nut on them point blank.

If you can aim and get headshots on Hela or Jean then it's better to just play them, but for absolute minimum effort ranged DPS she's the best. You will just not die most of the time while firing stupid damage downrange for no risk whatsoever. All their shields, all their healing cooldowns, all their destructible shit go bye-bye.
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>>564229989
>Boosted DPS complains about a boosted Support
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Why don't EOMM schizos have statistical evidence of their claims?
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>>564215826
You posting winrates marks you as a retard and then if you're trying to unironically say heroes like Iron Fist are extremely strong and broken you're too stupid to live. Especially with such an extremely low sample size.
You have not played even a second of current Iron Fist if you think heroes like him are strong.

But this is /mrg/ so expecting any form of intelligence or to not suck shit is a fools errand.
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>>564216274
>I remember people crying and pissing themselves over the Torch changes and saying they were a nerf

Yeah, 1000 matches on a hero with 2% pickrate where only one tricks play him and heavily skew the numbers is an accurate display of power.
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>>564215826
Daredevil is unplayable on ping so I never get to play him
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>>564249228
>Why don't EOMM schizos have statistical evidence of their claims?

Because they're paranoid idiots looking for excuses, not hard facts.
They think there's an implemented system keeping specifically them and only them down, making them lose. When this is not only the easiest game in the world to climb in ranked with but anyone good has no problems climbing.
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>>564249228
we do
just log off on a win in comp and show us your convienently one sided early session losses tomorrow.

Anyone remotely decent will tell you this piece of shit game is rigged
you cant log off on wins. Enough said.
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>>564251652
Perfect example of the kind of irrational schizo that thinks
>well every time i dont jack off into my pillow there is a high chance i miss the bus in the mornings
is fact and evidence.
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>>564252592
Why use a pillow?
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>>564237851
well there are two schools of thought when it comes to matchmaking

the archaic style is the idea that your matchmaking rating is the only determining factor. it's a simple system. the upside is that it doesn't try to rig your matches and you will quickly move up/down to your real rank. the downside is that the game does not factor any nuance into the matchmaking, so the game may randomly create lopsided matches. the system does not go out of its way to predict a 50-50 match outcome for individual matches, it tries to determine players' MMRs

the more modern style that game devs use is MMR + bullshit, which means they will factor in your recent winrate, the heroes you play, your performance and other gay shit in conjunction with machine learning to make sure that every match sits at 50-50 outcome. for some reason there is an obsession (e.g. >>564237375) with this 50% number even though there is no science to back up that a 50% win probability for every match is a good thing. if you are an eternity player in platinum, how is the game going to create 50% win probability for you? it just doesn't make sense. by definition, all your matches SHOULD be lopsided until you reach eternity.

the upside is the 50-50 outcome for a match. the downside is everything else. players can sense the matchmaking is artificial because it tries to rubberband them back to their original rank if they stomp too hard. sometimes you grief 8 matches in a row and start getting matched with smurfs who will carry you on your back. match quality ultimately suffers greatly because the MMR system can't determine who is what rank because of all the self-imposed interference, and players get "hardstuck" regardless if they play well or poorly.

my guess is that marvel rivals started with the 1st kind of system and then moved onto the 2nd. the playerbase can sense there's something wrong with it so they call it EOMM, while the devs claim it's not EOMM because it's technically not.
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>>564207018
so duelistshitters can learn to tank without leaving their previous role
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Current meta on ranked console is pure misery, past 10 games enemy teams bans are a mix of namor, thing, and gambit, favorite character to play is gambit, zero peel and get demolished by BP, spider-fuck, luckily I have good success in banning magik. Netease has to introduce an incentive for someone to choose second tank instead of having a braindead DPS that is vertically challenged and can't turn 180 to peel.
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Why is this constantly happening? Before update goes live pretty much everyone decided the CC changes will break the game beyond repair. Then after a few days when people play the matches I'm mostly hearing from teammates that they don't really notice it. Is it honestly a case where everyone should stop watching youtubers who had early access and only put videos out from them in the practice room? Now with that said, yeah Rogue does seem completely fucked from what I played.
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>>564253301
is magik really a menace on console
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>>564253993
Currently in GM1, anything diamond and above, and you start seeing more one trick dive players, on console melee characters are more popular since they require less aim to use, most dives are melee, so characters like magik are common to go against and when your team is doesn't like looking behind it miserable.
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>>564240947
Actually I main Ultron
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>>564253987
Seems like the early access youtubers got a different build, because those clips did look downright awful.

>>564253301
>>564254359
Is it cause the meta is more divey this season? Cause peeling for your support isn't a new idea. Although, I saw a MR youtuber claim in a dive meta, you're not supposed to be peeling and just pray your divers are better than the enemy divers, and your supports are better than their supports.
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>>564253220
Not sure why so many people have have no idea how matchmaking systems are designed and implemented have so many opinions about it.
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>>564253987
Anyone with a brain said the system was shit and they were right.
>didn't fix any cc issues
>creates dumb situations for several heroes where they can single handedly fuck over themselves because one cc counts are 4, while another hero like invis hasn't a single ability count towards tenacity
>since it doesn't happen all the time, it makes it worse because it will truly feel random
>it's extremely obtuse for what counts towards tenacity and not, as well as if and when it will trigger
>actually giving someone a 100% cc immunity buff from this is fucking retarded

There's a reason no other game has done this ever and only these moronic chinks that suck and game design and love overdesigning shit or changing all the wrong things during balancing did.
This tenacity system made the game overall worse while fixing nothing.
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You know that game where your teammate was throwing? That other game where the one trick refused to swap so you lost? Or that game where your teammate just left the game? How about that one game with the smurf?

Those are all factored into the forced 50/50. No one would complain about matchmaking if every game was actually a good game and they just couldn't pull through. Instead, the game decides it's your turn to get the shitty Spiderman OTP who gets diffed all game because the system expected someone on the enemy team to win their last game, but they didn't.
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>>564253987
It's funny that Hulk was deemed dead before the updates but he's actually completely busted being able to jump out of things other characters can't. Though to be fair it wasn't mentioned in the patch notes he could do that.
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>>564254568
that whole thing explicitly supports my point though. it's actually what i am basing my post largely on. did you not read it?
>the matchmaker tries to create an equal chance for both teams to win
how does that work if you're an eternity player in platinum, or a platinum player in eternity? how are you going to have a 50% odds of winning every match if you are not at your correct rating in the first place?

evidently valve or marvel rivals don't *really* try to create 50% win probability, they just rubberband towards it, but any sort of MMR rubberbanding is going to have a negative effect on players' ability to climb or sink, it feels them feel like they have less impact on the game and that the game is not responding to them. for your next assignment, watch this video and explain how it might relate here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGpFEv1-mAo
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>>564255023
>forced 50/50

You're right, no one can climb in this game. Everyone is stuck in silver like you and it's not your fault.
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>>564255217
I'm C3 peak and I didn't say you couldn't climb in this game. Please point out where I said you could not climb in this game like you just claimed.
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>>564255173
Exept it doesn't and I say this is a principal designer that has designed matchmaking systems. But I also have the sense to not waste time trying to educate someone like you on the subject on /mrg/ of all places.
Just find it baffling how ignorant people are always going on about how they know how everything works, despite having never worked on it and almost entirely base their statements on subjective cognitive misalignments and faulty schema.
Anyway I'm off to work.
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>>564223079
You don't normally use goht in the spidey 1v1. If spidey does it you just use the pull version and stun him out of it.

You know. Because spiderman is incredibly telegraphed making it super easy to hit him during his attacks.
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>>564253993
Yes, MK too he's banned almost every game in GM+
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>>564255023
I noticed that if you lose too many times, the game will begin lessening your point losses. I went on 7-8 loss streak and I legitimately started getting -15 on the 5th or so loss.
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>>564255401
Not him but to get to c3 on a 50% win rate you'd have to play very roughly 1,000 games
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>>564255405
impressive, you did not engage with any of my arguments, said "nuh uh" and made a vague appeal to authority. perhaps you did not understand my points. i am a programmer and i've worked in game development, and in my experience all the people who kept tooting their horn over their own merit were retards who failed upwards. the designers were generally the stupidest. perhaps there is a lesson in all this.

enjoy work
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>>564255478
I had forgotten about this emote.
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>>564255504
Its really funny how people on console at any rabk above gold start banning like they're OAA PC players. Yes, I know the youtuber said MK is bad but not only are we all shitters a character that doesn't have to aim is obviously boosted as fuck on this side
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>>564255629
because mr. stretch mains just don't exist, it's so sad
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>>564255594
50/50 happens when the system believes you are at the rank you belong in. If the system believes you should be higher, it's not 50%.
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>>564256026
I do think they reset it every wipe.
Some seasons you fly through Grandmaster and Celestial while in others you feel hard-stuck.
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The only thing I know about this game's Rank is that it is complete agony if you Solo Queue beyond Grandmaster. Celestial is absolute hell, and Eternity feels impossible unless you play one of the most crutch DPS, Tanks, or Supports.
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>>564256264
Yeah thats a fair point.The only factor I could think of that promotes that issue is the fact that every season the top players are technically all smurfing, trying to get their old rank back. You could literally have old Eternity and OAA players in your games if they simply don't play as often or are on one of their 6 alt accounts.
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I'm opening a portal

>>564256738
>>564256738
>>564256738
>>564256738
>>564256738
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>>564255478
There should be a venom and moon knight kissing emote
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>>564240970
Tranny character for trannies



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