Remember that you can dislike stuff without making it part of your personality. Report and ignore shitposters that only spam and argue in bad faith./ffg/ spam filter: https://pastebin.com/SJ1sb9r0>General Info on Final Fantasyhttps://finalfantasy.fandom.com>What version should I play?http://pastebin.com/nDC7j5bn>Final Fantasy Pixel Remaster Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdLsIQEGj-E>Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice Chronicleshttps://youtu.be/JRIElEOQa4c>Final Fantasy XVI Infohttps://na.finalfantasyxvi.com>Launch Trailer "Salvation"https://youtu.be/_CrV3hkJuvs>DLChttps://youtu.be/RecsFD6SWfchttps://youtu.be/aveDvd66clk>PC Trailerhttps://youtu.be/LBqpFlA_4Is>Final Fantasy VII Rebirthhttps://youtu.be/WgdkN2tCAFwhttps://youtu.be/Q56cRDseTGQ>Dissidia Duellum Final Fantasyhttps://youtu.be/dgTNtB9mysshttps://youtu.be/L-UITSfBZpc>Final Fantasy VII Ever Crisis>>>/vmg/1916155>Dissidia Final Fantasy Opera Omniahttps://www.youtube.com/@DFFOperaOmnia>Final Fantasy Brave Exvius: War of the Visionshttps://pastebin.com/1yvynbW8>Final Fantasy XIhttp://www.playonline.com/ff11us/index.shtmlPrevious thread: >>564042620
Some people really need to figure out that you can dislike stuff without making it part of your personality. You don't have to go out of your way to remind everyone every time it comes up, and argue with anyone who does like it.
As long as no one makes any negative or neutral remarks about Nomura, Kitase, Hamaguchi, Toriyama, Matsuno, Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy XIII, Lightning, Remake, Tactics, E33, Duellum, Kastaclsym, Sebbywebz, WotV, or BE we will be fine.As long as no one makes any positive or neutral remarks about XIV, XVI, Yoshida, CS3, Spirits Within, Sakaguchi, or OO we will be fine.Take care to not agree with anyone's /ffg/ approved positive or negative opinions too much. Agreeing with someone can come off as disingenuous, but only when certain posts or certain ideas are agreed with, not others. Also remember that if you disobey any of the rules, this automatically puts you into the opposing category of posters. There are no exceptions. These are the rules.
>>564593261Based first post best post >>564593379Lame spam that's already included in the official ffg filter list
>>564593686Let the fatherless spam his reddit trash, at least it's not seething about being called fatherless while it does so.
Is the lack of news making people lose interest? I don't see many threads these days.
Aerishit lol
>>564593208Based OP image
This thread sucks.
>>564601797Just like XIII.
>>564601797Just like XVI
>>564601975You struck a nerve, the chatbot immediately parroted you.
Would i enjoy Final Fantasy X-2 If i'm not an agp tranny?
>>564607435Maybe. But you'll have to use real words if you want someone to actually understand what you are saying.
>>564607435
>>564607697Even Lightning has more ass and she's a man. Yuna is an embarrassment.
>shitpost XIII >shitpost XVI in retaliation>shitpost X-2 in retaliationThis has happened multiple times now.It seems X-2 needs to be added to >>564593379 but I can't figure out which side it's on. I just know that it upsets someone.
>>564607806Yuna needs a big dick in her ass.
What the fuck is FF 12 just a star wars game?And why does it ask me if i want "original,orchestrated or ost" music?
Goddamn, FFXVI was such a massive missed oppoturnity story wise. All they have to do is cut Ultima and god bullshit out of the story and let Bananas and Wahoo be the big bad guy.
>>564608210Original means the Playstation song. OST meands the CD songs. Orchestrated means orchestrated.
>>564608513
Yuck why is Nintendie shit so blurry
Great now i need to spend all day finding mods for this nintendie shit to be wide screen.
>>564607435X-2 is a much better game than X
>>564609357If it's so good why does it have a femoid protagonist?
>>564609357Better gameplay but shittier story, narrative, and cast.
>>564609343Can you shut the fuck up? If you don't like playing old games, then go play Fortnite or Roblox or whatever fits your screen and mental age.
>>564612716Love me some free shit
Huge congratulations to FFXVI and its well deserved success.
> check a speedrun> it's a tranny> search ff 11 guide> it's a tranny> searchff 14 guide> it's a trannybruh why FF fans are all troons
>>564616580Of course, Turn-based games don't sell anymore.
>>564616580This is the most astroturfed game of the decade.
>>564618105This installer menu is more interactive than XIII's combat system.
They are so qt, I want pat their head and give them chocolateshttps://youtu.be/HgXwuDyCTfk
FF is so unplayable without mods.Wonder if there are mods to stop Lightning from looking like a tranny.
>>564608210>What the fuck is FF 12 just a star wars game?Correct.
>>564607882>X-2 fag thinks he's part of the team
>>564620594I can't tell if you're ironically or unironically using Nomura, so I still don't know which category X-2 belongs in. I just know that someone has gotten upset about it multiple times in the usualy back and forth petty shitpost fight.
> NOOO YOU CAN'T PLAY EASY MODE BECASUE UHHH YOU JUST CAN'T OK?Fuck off
who is the more dedicated poster on v. The lightning schizo or the aerith schizo
>>564621193The Lightning schizo shotguns multiple threads onto /v/'s catalogue and has also been banned in a Mass Effect thread for shitting it up by avatarfagging as the blue girl with no hair who looks like a man and spamming images of his modded game and saying that all the other girls suck and that everyone except him is mad, same thing he does in this thread. I don't know what the Aerith schizo does and I didn't even know there was an Aerith schizo. Unless you mean that guy who always comments on how Tifa is an eroge character or some random 16 year old girl Nomura is obsessed with. He seems more concentrated in his schizophrenia while the Lightning avatarfag casts a wider net and is just generally more schizophrenic.
>>564617779Maybe SE should have astroturfed Rebirth too. In fact, if any game can get 8 million sales on zero merits and pure astroturfing why don't they all do it?
>>564617779It's easily, by far the single most astroturfed game of all time.
>>564622015I hope SE learn from it and remake part 3 can become the new #1 most astroturfed game of all time
>>564621718Square Enix really sucks at marketing honestlyIt's their main problemIf they were smart, they would have a paid online army singing their praises constantly like E33 had (Ubisoft regularly does the same thing)I guess SE doesn't have the cash to do it or something?
>>564623759It needs to be able to slot into the culture war in order for the shill seeds to work. If there is any DEI or homosexuality in it, it can't ever become the most astroturfed game of all time.
>>564622015Nah, that’s still TLOU.
>>564628170E33 won more awards than TLOU.
>only 70k people watching fan festOh yeah, dead game.
XIV expansion in January 2027That means mid-late 2027 for Part 3
>>564593208Please /ffg/, might someone have a link to that Japanese Youtube video, that goes through all the OG FFVII field maps/locations and highlights the items with a finger and then opens a menu-like screen, where there's a description and most importantly a picture of the items/equipment? I can't find it and I really need it and would appreciate it.
>>564629375>>564629521Damn, you are obsessed with Yoshida's success.
>>564629753
>godless realm sagaMore like subless realm saga
>>564629836
posting here since the other threads just filled with fake spam but meh ffxiv doesn't seem good to me anymore, I don't get why these final fanatics go crazy over any little news.
>>564632676Jealous that SE pretends that XIII doesn't exist?
>>564632937My favorite FF is XVI actually.
>>564632937https://x.com/finalfantasy/status/2032517369227309089?s=46Your delusion is not reality.
Rinoa = Ultimecia is a cool theory.
>>564632937You really got under his skin, damn.
>>564633319Decade old spam
I don't get why you people are so obsessed with E33. It feels more like Persona than Final Fantasy.
>>564633662yeah, why do people like good games instead of trannyslop like ff13
>>564593379>Anons literally make threads for years on end to do nothing but try to insult Final Fantasy XIII, XIII-2, and Lightning returns...Well; it's like the jews were polite enough to leave a bunch of shit-stained arrows to point you in the direction.
>>564633647But enough about your mom.
>>564633776People like video games you play, not watch and occasionally hit a button for a QTE like XVI.
>>564633776You angered the fatherless.
>>564633662There were certain "truths" the FF fanbase needed to hold on to in order to keep themselves coping and not killing themselves. E33 basically destroyed all these "truths" and after years of FF fans picking fights with every rival out of a delusion of superiority, E33 gave us a humbling that forced the entire fandom into one of two camps:One, the "proud senior">I don't see what all the fuss is about, I like both FF and E33, why pretend there is hatred? I will now speak at length about all the things I did not like about E33 and how the story falls apart and the characters and combat are bad, but well done to the new team, I'm proud of them and happy to call E33 fans our allies!Two, the "all knowing">That game was shit shit shit shit shit and nobody liked it and nobody bought it and it only won awards that it bought and it was astroturfed astroturfed astroturfed and everyone talking about it is a shill or a bot or both and it's all fake and its fans are trolls who are so arrogant and also RACIST against japan which is the only kind of racism you will ever hear me complain about
>>564637652Pokemon and Persoyna already mog FF and are turn-based.
>>564636372...E33 is literally QTE, both the attacks and the parries
XIV? Won again!
XVI? Won again!
>like XVI>like Metaphor>like E33>like pic related
>>564639550Like Octoshit, also by SE.
AwesomeAnd Yoko Taro was doing something with Evangelion too, I wonder if this is related
>Final Fantasy VII 30th anniversary>also Evangelion 30th anniversary>XIV does Evangelion crossoverBased
>>564641927oh hell no, not Taro, he's insane
Final Fantasy
Lightning best girl. Heard anything new about the rumors of a Fabula Nova Crystalis remaster? I want to buy it again.
>>564641927Damn, that's desperate. XIV is truly dead, huh
>>564642619Looks like Evangelion chose Square Enix for their 30th anniversary stuff
>>564641927On one hand, I really want to see how retarded the rabbit hole gets.On the other hand, >queue into raid>GET IN THE ROBOT SHINJI >IM SO FUCKED UPPPPP>ASUKAAAA I MADE MILKIESSSSSS>uhm acktually asuka is 14 evangelion is acktually very creepy blah blah blah blah
>>564643168>evangelion and yoko taroPANIC
Gundam Collab when?
>>564643238https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u6V6UisBz8I want to see if they remix any of the songs or if they at least put the new Keiichi Okabe songs in XIV since him and Yoko Taro are doing the new animation
>>564641927>how do we attract a younger audience?>UHHHH UHHHHH LETS COLLAB WITH A BOOMER ANIMEanother baffling moment from yoshitpiss
>>564643725listen i don't care but if I have to see something similar to this again. i'll fucking choke my dick
>>564643754And yet it's still a lot better than XIII.
>>564643754It's the 30th anniversary, anon. Yoko Taro is doing some animation, XIV is doing a collab
Why is FFXIV ripping off Genshin Impact?
One true love and kissu chu! Canon and cute couple!
Is HorizonXI based or gay?
>>564637954>PersoynaLmao why are you like this?
>>564644845What is it?
>>564644845If you have never played XI, just play retailIf you are an oldfag who wants to relive the 75 days or whatever it is, it's maybe kinda based, but there's apparently a bunch of schizo drama because the same autists drift from pserver to pserver so it's a small group of people with decades long beef with each other and apparently there are groups that monopolize endgame spaces to prevent other groups from being able to advance their characters
the only thing that I realized is that mmotards and fftards are both equally annoying and when combined they become a force so obnoxious that not even the LGBT can compete against.
>>564647874>doesn't play XIV>still obsessed with itWhy is this so common on 4chan?
>>564648363>doesn't play XIV>still obsessed with itthat sounds like the average XIV fan nowadays.
Oh no.
>>564648813>can't answer why he's obsessed with a game he doesn't play>resorts to his same tired "no u"Pathetic.
>>564648363
>>564649107>can't answer why he's obsessed with a game he doesn't playyou tell me why you're obsessed with it.
>>564651207>no u>followed by no uDon't make me post it, Paulie.
>>564652816The ones on the chair would be Tekken players, althoughbeit, as they are by far the community that asked for Tifa the most.
>>564652816>NuTifaWhy can't people use her OG appearance?
>>564652947>>564652816Tekken players are all losers but FF is pretty close.
>>564653083NuTifa is the most economically minded Tifa.
>>564653149FF's become the joke of the gaming community.
Persona's way bigger than Final Fantasy these days
>>564648363>>564649107Gottem
I know this isn't the XIV thread but genuinely asking, how the fuck do people even keep up with the story of the game? In between breaks, I cram so many anime/manga/games/movies/tv shows that I only remember feels and core messages of each one. Yet XIVfags somehow can fucking recall even the minute detail of shit that was back in 1.X How the fuck do they do this?
Bruh why is this stupid game down rn? I need to hop on to fill my crystal slots.
Turn-based is dead
>>564653885...is what I would say if Atlus didn't kill itself with Metaphor and it has been 10 years since Persona 5 released with no news of P6.
what's up with the veldt mechanics table having so many empty slots? only 55 of the 64 are used and some
>>564653885Persona 5 and its spinoffs have sold a total of 13 million copies since 2013. 7 Remake was at 7.5 million by itself last I checked. P6 might be the FF killer, but 5 wasn't and isn't and P3R barely did 1 million.
>>564652816ftfy
>>564660786And Rebirth sold 0 copies
>>564661023Very grim if true.
Rikku for Dissidia is soon!! Al bheb supremacy!
Aerisu! It's FanFest!
>Dissidia already EoSThat was fast
>>564662812I wanna breed the Al Bhed
>>564641927People are still playing that game? Last t I heard they WoWified it after a bunch of WoW players joined the game.
>>564616658>finally find a guide made by a man>he's ftm
>>564669520They should've just ported Duodecim, to be honest.
>>564669659Game is unironically saved now.
>>564670314Triple blowjob...
>>564593208Krile is only 14.
XI and XIII are the only FF games not on a Nintendo console. Unless XIV really is coming for Switch 2.
>>564672910oh right XVI and XV too. don't know about Mystic Quest and The After Years. It would be nice to have Before Crisis and Ever Crisis.
>>564671942Out of 10!
Yoshi Piss really said pic related
>>564609113>Revenant WingsEW!!!!!
OO was fun because even that literal who winged guy from Revenant Wings was in it. Duellum would never.
why is almost every single SE game on Nintendo hardware trapped in limbo? especially the wiiware.
>>564676097>WoW: "we're going back to northrend in the next expansion!">Yoshida: "oh yeah? well...uhhhh...our next expansion is in a cold place too!"
>WoWtrannies melting down because they lost >BIGLYXIV gets saved and your game gets an official tranny parade.
Sexo
All of the online spaces for duellum are fucking obnoxious I hate this new age internet.
IT'S UP
>>564681747My dick for Krile
How long is this fucking emergency maintenance... they better give us a bunch of mogcoin for this...
>>564686457And 7 Red Crystals!
AAAAAAAAAA ELT ME IN
imagine being FFXI and not get on Nintendo Switch 2. XIII and it's sequels, alongside XV (actual 3D), and XVI are next.
>>564679910>>564681335>rainbowNever beating the allegations.
Krile would probably attack you out of disgust and fear. She would see you as a fat ugly middle aged bastard trying to hurt her.
>>564687528how would xi even begin to function on the fucking switch?
>>564690531That would only make my dick harder
>>564691958Touch controls
>>564690531Krile would attack anyone for taking the first crystal. She's a crystal and base hog that never leaves there.
i feel like there are cheaters already
>>564692501i cannot think of something even more god forsaken action than playing xi on a touch screen
>>564653083Because it sucks. And Nomura's fragile ego can't bear people preferring the real Tifa to his OC.
Is there a tier list for Duellum?
>>564694529Yeah
>>564691958>>564692501>>564693116The Switch has a mouse mode.
Are we in Final Fantasy's Nintendo era now?
Should I just keep ramza as a squire
>>564694692if you've ever played xi then you know how little that means and useless it is.
>>564695002it's not the early 90s anymore so no.
>>564695167Maybe
>>564669520>buy the pass>go to sleep >wake up to eos
Duellum already eos?
>>564697174Yeah
>>564696284cute
It's actually up. 700 mogcoin compensation.
>Turn based doesn't se-
I just got to the other world but I think I might drop FFV. I just can't be arsed to keep playing this game.
XIV bros we are so back.I'm riding home.
>>564702163Come back to us. We have a Kraken to fight.
XIV eos before duellum
Yozora for duellum
>>564607435So...What do we know about those nameless temples and towns on the Spira map?The ones next to the thunder plains and Bevelle.
>>564706606They're the proof that Rinoa is Masamune.
Why are they afraid of goonies now? >>>/v/737281575
>>564706782Ultimecia, anon.Rinoa is Ultimecia.
>>564708934No, no, Ultimecia is organic. You got all the theories wrong.
>>564709104Dude Rinoa is organic too!
I'll get really mad if you don't show certain theories the upmost respect or challenge them in any way.Also, I'll get really mad if you attempt to discuss any theories I personally give no credence to.
Rinoa is gay
>>564709559Calm down, fatherless. XIII still sucks.
>>564708502Fuck this newfags man
>>564708502Tifa was created for the player to enjoy, they can't take her away now.
>>564709559>>564709646Are there any crazy or interesting theories about FFXIII?
>>564710064No. Nothing about XIII is interesting. Even the porn of it is mid.
IS EMET FUCKING SELCH BACK
>>564711039Jahk ue's dead. Just like Minfilia or... Titania?
>>564708502based tifabro
>>564713134quoting yourself is not based
>>564711039Didn't he die at end of Shadowbringers?
>>564715356They need him. Only Emet can save FFXIV.
>>564713134Kys wokie
Why are they modernizing the battle system of 14 instead of 11? Is it because 11 is perfect as it is?
>>564642454kys
Is Sephiroths banner 2 weeks after Clive and the first solo banner?
But who exactly at Nintendo helped with the port?
>>564708502They do the but hire Hideki "Total Earith Rape" Ishikawa to work on a censored 3DS title.
>>564724740Does that guy even still do porn?
>>564724901Not anymore. He's a bit of a family man and is just getting money from Pokemon Trading Cards now.
>>564708502The "gentleman agreement" idiot defense is sure in shambles now.When will the Japanese accept that corporates aren't their friends?
>>564724027Me
>>564708502SqEx became too western influence, porn artists have to get prepared for the underground life if they're going to keep providing "the good stuff™" again.
>>564710064You only get theories for the FF games that people can't accept are written badly.
>>564727020That... tracks, actually.
>>564724972good for him, i guess
>>564724027Reggie flew to Tokyo and spent months with Yoshi-P getting everything perfect for FFXIV Switch 2 release
>>564691958It wouldn't, because you need a million mods to make it even remotely playable, but you can play it with a controller just fine.
>>564741178Retard. People play XI on Steamdeck no problem.
>>564743416meant for >>564691958
>>564741178People. Retards play XI on Steamdeck no problem.
>>564741178Steamdeck. Problems play retards on people no XI.
can someone post their final fantasy tier list i'm looking to get started in the series
>>564745709Depends how high your tolerance to pixels is.In all seriousness, XIV is a decent entry into the serie, unless you're impatient or allergic to MMOs.Otherwise, I'd say start with the classics: go emulate Final Fantasy VII on Playstation, but find a retranslation patch. The old FFs have a custom of having shit translations.
>>564745709> IV , VI , VII , XStart with one of these. >IVThe first time Final Fantasy became what Final Fantasy currently still is. >VI Regarded by many as the best Final Fantasy game.>VII The most iconic and well known Final Fantasy game.>XPossibly the second most iconic and well known Final Fantasy game.
>>564746428>X>iconicHAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH !
>>564724027Companies always do this, they jerk themselves off to appear friendly with each other.
>>564746823Nobody brings up the target at Nintendo's HQ that has Square Enix on it, with the mention "traitor" under it.
>>564745709Here's mine.
>>564747504>FFXIV>best story...huh?>best soundtrack>FFXIHUH??? Why? How? Why XI and not IX for that one?
>>564747504>>564747701You seem to have your numerals all mixed up, friend.IX has the best story though, yes. XI has an amazing soundtrack, especially WoTG.
>>564747701He put IX for best story, retard. I don't agree, but you're retarded either way.
>>564747869Isn't IX the one with the fantasy world and the mist? I remember the story being just your average "bad guy wants to be immortal, can't be immortal, decides to destroy the world".Like, what's-his-name, Cujo? Cujo is just a lesser Kefka, except that instead of being unable to understand life, he just rage impotently like an angry liberal.But you are right, I did mess up the numbers, sorry. I meant my surprise at IX's story being good, it's just VI with a new layer of paint. And Vivi.
>>564748209...maybe you should replay IX. Its story is not that at all.
>>564748458Look at me in the eyes and tell me the story isn't about some loser with delusions of grandeur trying to take over the world and throwing a tantrum when told he'll die like a little bitch.
>>564748209I don't think I've ever seen a more retarded take here. Did you just get this impression from watching the trailer or something lmao
>>564748606>hasn't played Final Fantasy game but is very opinionated about it What causes this and why is it so rampant on /ffg/?
>>564748571You said the truth, it's back to answering himself now.
>>564748869It's not just /ffg/. Apparently this is such an issue with the FF fanbase that there are multiple memes for it.
>>564745709>post their final fantasy tier listI can do that, but, because I wish to be helpful to you, it will be totally separate from the answer I'll give to:>i'm looking to get started in the seriesThey're unconnected (until you really get into the lore), so you can play them in any order. You can't really go wrong per se, if you start with one of the following: IV, V, VI, VII and X. If you've sworn to play every FF no matter what, start from I and continue in order. If you've sworn to play only one FF in your entire life, make it IX.Beyond that, do you want:Gameplay? III, IV and V. Later VI, VII, X, X-2, Lightning Returns, Dissidia Duodecim and World of Final Fantasy.Story? VI, VII and X. Later II, IV, V, IX and XIII-2.Combination of the above two? VI and VII. Later IV, V, IX and X.More western style? XII. Later XV and Type-0.Medieval? I, II, IV, V and XVI. Later III, VI, IX and XII.Renaissance/Steampunk? VI and IX. Later XII.Dieselpunk? VII.Modern/Futuristic? VIII, XIII, XIII-2 and XV. Later VII, Before Crisis (if you could play it), Dirge of Cerberus, Crisis Core and Type-0.Atmosphere? II, V, VI, VII and IX. Later III, X, X-2 and Lightning Returns.Good graphics? III, VI, IX, X, XIII, XIII-2, XV and World of Final Fantasy.Music? VI. Later super majority of the rest.Characters? V, VI and VII. Later IV, IX and XIII-2.Strong themes? IV, VI, VII, IX and X. Later II and VIII.Humor? V, VI and VII. Later III, X-2 and World of Final Fantasy.Seriousness? II, IV, VIII, IX, X and XII. Later VI, VII, XIII, XVI and Before Crisis.Weirdness? VIII.Completeness? VI and IX.
>>564750116>humour: VII
>>564750224Yes. VII is full of zany stuff and the characters tell a few jokes & take each other down a peg from time to time. The game is very well balanced between joy and sorrow, never too far in either.
>>564751306
>>564748869>>564749603There are even multiple examples of the for FFVII specifically.
>>564751895>multiple examples of the for FFVII specifically.GMS!
>>564748869>>564751895You've triggered the VIIRgin...
>>564750224You should have actually played the game instead of watching Advent Children and assuming you understood FFVII through kingdom hearts cameos.
Maybe we can enforce a requirement to have played a FF game in order to post.
>>564752669He's mad because I made a typo, which he would easily be able to reconcile if he knew English.
>>564745709>>564750116>If you've sworn to play only one FF in your entire life, make it IX.Nah, if you're only ever gonna play one (1) FF game, it needs to be Chrono Trigger.
>>564745709>>564750116>Completeness? VI and IX.I'm not gonna nitpick the rest of this list, but I disagree with having "Completeness" be a category, because this implies that the other games are "incomplete". For example, my opinion is that VI feels "empty" because it's trying to do too much, and has so much of a technological or budget or time limitation that it ends up spreading itself thin. It's a character driven narrative where the characters are mostly one-note. I don't understand how this could be considered to be more "complete" than every other Final Fantasy game.
R=U fixes FF8
>>564743694>Steamdeck no problem.(X)
Kino Core is the best Tabata FF game
>>564751306Trying to remember VII, the only funny scene I can remember is Red XIII trying to disguise as a soldier.
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/143531184
>>564755680>meowscaradabased
>>564755521>Trying to remember VII, the only funny scene I can remember is Red XIII trying to disguise as a soldier.There is also the gay homosex stuff. Thinking back, I'm pretty sure most of VII's humor is the gay homosex. For me, I think VIII was pretty funny, but it's like a dry humor kind of tone.
>>564755490True but not a high bar.
>>564756005Ha, that might be why, it was likely censored in my language. And also I never made it into the Honey Bee. Even now I could do the game out of memory, but I never made it inside.VIII was funny, but in an uncomfortable way, a lot of the humor comes from Squall's dry wits and it's hilarious, until you realize he's just standing still smiling to himself while Rinoa is raging in his face.>watch out, Linoa Freud is here
Why does Selphie love trains so much?
>>564756449Japan. also Trabia Garden has no trains speaking.
>>564756449She got raped in a train once.
I've only ever played X and it was ok, to be honest I found the story a bit confusing. Which one next?
>>564756449trains are cool.
>>564757597IX
>>564757597>Play XV>Ride a car while listening to FF tracks>Go fishing>Walk around aimlessly>Hunt some birds>Walk around aimlessly>Go fishing again>Sun goes down>Go to camp>Repeat>Turn off PCIt's a simple life.
>>564757597X-2.And also VII. VII is sadly extremely influencial.
>>564758024I wish they made the side activities meaningful or worth doing. There's no reason to do hunts, fishing, races or photography. If you do only the main story you're maybe 3% less powerful but have saved 30 hours.
>>564758453Cover that Al-Bh*d!
>>564758453FINALLYRIKKU HAS MADE IT TO DISSIDIA.
>>564758453Oh that guy from Tekken 8
>>564758713The sand-blasted grease monkey made it to Dissidia before our boy did! Disgraceful!
>>564758332They should use side quests to introduce that starscourge bullshit and explain why it's a world ending threat because the game never explains shit in the main story until like halfway through. Or maybe I was speed reading, I don't know and don't care.
>>564758453I will not pull.
>>564758453Both look like bricks if I'm being honest.
>>564757597Do either of these have level scaling? I can't remember. In XII some of the hunts are unwinnable unless you're much further into the story than you think you need to be.>>564758191QRD on X-2 please. Is it like XIII where it's improved every way?
>"You could not live with your own failure.">"Where did that bring you? Back to me."
interesting that xiii's biggest fan is radio silent about the next xiv expansion being based on xiiieven funnier when everyone was thinking it was going to be vii
>>564760431This might be the dumbest of all Lightning avatarfag shitposts.
>>564760727Why can't XIV be its own thing and just stand on its own?
>>564760727Interesting the first thing you think about when you see FF is "I wonder what my BF thinks about this"
>>564760727Is that any different from XV fans not caring for Rebirth despite it being a spiritual successor to the point of copying the UI design and some monster models?
>>564759645The story isn't anything special, for the most part it's just Yuna revisiting places from the first game. The party stays the same 3 chars for the entirety of your playthrough but there are some neat things with the way they went about this. The gameplay is much more refined than X's. The job system changes allow all 3 main characters to access any jobs that you currently have on a specific character's grid at anytime during battle. You can switch on the fly in case you need a specific ability or magic to help exploit an enemy's weakness. There are around 20 different jobs to play and a shitton of abilities to learn. It's overall a pretty fun game if you turn your brain off and don't expect much from It's story.
>>564761567We're all gonna need to see more than concept art and vague-posting from Yoshida to have any sort of opinion on Evercold. Game doesn't even exist yet as far as I'm concerned, there's no footage
>>564745709
>>564761567>copying the UI designthe fullbody model thing with the menu on the side was already present in kh.
Getting a lot of boss baby vibes from this thread right now.
>>564757597There's something for everyone in FF, so sometimes it's hard to recommend one over the other because there's a lot of varietyI'd say if there's a game you need to play, it's Final Fantasy VII. Don't be scared either, it has aged incredibly well. Just grab 7th Heaven and enable FFNx plugins, maybe grab a HD UI or widescreen mod and you're good
>>564761097That is a very high bar, dude.Or low, I dunno.>>564760727VII is already overrepresented in XIV.These limit breaks, the T1 and T2 LBs? They're inspired by Clout Strip and Aerishit Gainsbourg.
>>564764226>VII is already overrepresented in XIV.I dunno about over represented, but it's definitely already extremely represented. Gold Saucer is VII. The Weapons are VII.
>>564762618Somehow, XVI still feels too high.
>>564764616It's just not in your face. I assume Yoshida shares my disdain of SE trying to milk the Cloud/Sephiroth fight again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again.
>>564764764I'm doing my best to be cordial but it does feel a little cheap to be only one tier below several underrated classics like LR and X-2C is fine
>564762618Literally shit. Not even worth a (You), it's THAT shit
Joking aside, SE must be serious about revisiting XIII if they're putting so many crossovers in every IP they possess at the same time. They must have lost confidence in milking new IPs after XVI and Flopoken flopped hard.
At the end of the day, XIII is still shit.
>>564766048Irrefutable.
>>564764797Yoshida could have fixed this if XVI was as memorable.
>>564766559XVI isn't a new concurrent on the console market's first RPG with a lot of new improvements. VII was legendary because>3D>actual music, not just chiptunes>THREE CDs>on a new brand, not Nintendo
>>564765895I know /ffg/'s shitposters don't like it, but XVI was profitable. That's why it got a sales announcement after 6 days. It had a budget of slightly less then $60m USD. Rebirth, on the other hand, has never had a sales announcement because it either was not and still isn't profitable, or it wasn't profitable enough to warrant a sales celebration. It had a budget of ~$120m USD just like Rebirth had. A budget that was literally twice as much as what XVI got, meanwhile it sold fewer copies than XVI. This is just a fact, and when we talk about "flops", we need to mention Rebirth if we're mentioning Forspoken, or if we're falsely accusing XVI of being a "flop"
I want to tickle Refia's prostate with my dick.>inb4 dude it's a real girl this timeEVEN BETTER
>>564766881>XVI isn't a new concurrent on the console market's first RPG with a lot of new improvementsI would have settled for just being a good or memorable game.
>>564767141Which it is.
>Final Fantasy VII Remake Part 2 (Rebirth) was a massive flopHard to believe that Final Fantasy VII got to this point, but it is undoubtedly true. Hopefully they can spice things up so that Part 3 wont also succumb to this fate.
>>564767943Because SE tried too hard to milk it, there's a consumer fatigue.
>>564768187Turning what was originally 1 game into 3 games and then spreading those 3 games out across 7 years and 2 console generations is definitely a choice. Hopefully they can stick the lander. After Rebirth flopped, they really need to stick the landing, especially if Part 3 also has a budget of ~$120 million USD just like Remake and Rebirth each individually had.
>>564767141The same meaning also applies to Spirits Within. Isn't it weird how SE has never touched that movie again despite it carrying the Final Fantasy name? It must have been a really good and memorable movie, I'm sure.>t. never watch Spirits Within
>>564768762It's... kinda ok, but the bad guy is just cartoonishly stupid, and the writing is too cliché overall.>military guy wants to shell the aliens>scientist guy says there's another way, sure it doesn't bring any result and is insanely dangerous, but he promise it'll work just trust him bro
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Spirits_Within
>>564759548>Double your Firion's HP from 40k to 80k>A brickLol
>>564767141>>564768762>>564769091Wasn't the problem of Spirits Within that it wasn't Final Fantasy? Like it says FF on the tin, but the product contained is not FF. The movie didn't capture the emotions of the FF audience, let alone the general audience. So no FF fans recommended it to outsiders, and therefore nobody even recommends it at allSeems oddly familiar to me, like there's some wisdom to be found here
>>564769796Are you off your meds again? It's about the planet's lifestream, which is FF.
>>564769796>Wasn't the problem of Spirits Within that it wasn't Final Fantasy?I've said this a million times here, and it always triggers someone, but the reason Spirits Within failed is because people (like me) were basically expecting it to be Advent Children, and it ended up being a scifi movie with no former Final Fantasy characters in it. I didn't like it as a kid at all, but I watched it around covid, and it's really not that bad at all. The acting is pretty good and the CGI is insanely good especially considering the time period. I also do think that it is Final Fantasy, it just wasn't Advent Children.
>>564770119So it failed because newfags to FF expected to be catered to?
>>564770119>it's really not that bad at allAbsurd
>>564770253Like I said, if the potential fanbase at the time were anything like I was (and I think that they were like I was) they expected it to basically be Advent Children, and it wasn't Advent Children, it was a sci fi movie with guns. No one has a sword. >>564770295It really isn't bad at all.
>>564770457So what you say is that it was too Final Fantasy for the normies, and not Final Fantasy enough for the """"""fans"""""".
>>564770719I don't know what I'm "saying", anon, I'm trying to explain what actually happened as a person who was presumably the target audience back then.
Final Fantasy means something more than a big sword or a guy that's named Cid, and those surface level things being included does not make something a Final FantasyFans of this franchise having so little standards on what it is that they are actually here for is the reason why the franchise is on a death bed while new games are selling more than ever
>>564767943All they need to do is astroturf it like E33, then it will sell 8 million copies. This is something any company of any size can decide to do at any time with any game.
>>564770832So what you say that is Lee Harvey Oswald had an accomplice that took the second shot, and that Oswald's mediocre performance was just a decoy to cover the real assassin?
>>564770921>All they need to do is astroturf it like E33, then it will sell 8 million copies.In order for a game to be capable of being astroturfed the way E33 was, it needs to have a narrative that fits into the culture war so that it can be picked up and regurgitated ad nauseam by the lowest common denominators. E33 has the narrative that "I'm white" and "you're brown" and "the game was made by 33 people in a cave with zero funding and they only worked on the game after they came home from their normal jobs". If Part 3 is full of DEI and brown people and has a confirmed budget of $120m USD and is full of censorship like Tifa and Yuffie and Cid's cigarette, there's not really any message for the culture war posters who don't play video games to pick up and continue the fight after the shills first seed the message. >This is something any company of any size can decide to do at any time with any game.Is it possible? Yes. Is it likely? I think company bureaucracy might get in the way. It's "difficult" and expensive to go through the normal approved routes of purchasing covert (or overt) shilling services. I don't think there's really a AAA plan that accounts for paying Discords full of Indians in $5 Google Play gift cards to shill post 24/7 for a month.
I'm trying to decide in advance if my Cloud will date Aerith or Tifa in both the OG and Remake and it's honestly a pretty difficult choiceThe fact that the fandom is so mentally ill and insecure doesn't help.Going into Aerith x Cloud or Tifa x Cloud communities showed me both those fandoms exclusively talk about how awful and "toxic" the opposite fandom is. Instead of appreciating the relationship they root for, they are so insecure they go "TIFA IS UHH TOXIC AND ABUSIVE AND BEATS UP CLOUD!" "NOOO AERITH IS UHH A DUMB BITCH WHO DIES LMAO AND TIFA GETS A KISS AND A SEX SCENE, SEETHE".I've also noticed people in the west tend to like Tifa because they fetishize asian women and Tifa looks stereotypically asian and is more "submissive" like incels like their asian women, while in the east japas love Aerith because she looks white and is very "outgoing" so asian incels want a more "dominant woman" who is attracted to the incel quiet ugly asian man.Either way, tough choice. Aerith is pushed more on the player's throat but that's becuase she dies like a dumb bitch, she starts with higher affection and all media always shows her date and stuff. But... again, she dies like a dumb bitch, and Cloud can't be with a dead body, so i guess Cloud should be with Tifa?
>>564771302JFK is a completely unrelated conversation, but I would say that the driver shot JFK and that it was done by the (((CIA))). Lee Harvey Oswald was just the fall guy.
>>564769115Unless I'm misunderstanding there is no healing with it. It just raises max HP. Fair, Fman could be one of the few that can use it with heals built into kit.
>>564771614>redditGo back.
do you agree with this list? of all the 252 Rages Gau can learn, these are the recommended.
>>564771963I know Cat Scratch is a good one. Not sure about the rest.
>>564771961Reddit actually plays videogames and talks about them and their communities actually revolve around the game in question.All this place does is say 6 year old Eiko is their wife, Lightning is trans rights or something and you start talking about politics or about the weird parasocial relationships and rivalry you guys made with each other.
>>564771485Wasn't E33 a AA game co-founded by China?
>>564772398Then go back.
>>564772457Daddy's venture capitalist firm, the French government, and China, yes.
What's the secret to enjoying Lightning Returns? I'm an autist who likes doing all optional contact/collectibles then just zerging the main story. This game completely counters that playstyle, it's a sprint with no idea wtf I'm doing.
>>564772503I have both reddit and 4chan open.Also Reddit has solved tons of issues i had with crashes and errors and all sorts of stuffs, they also give links to pirate stuff and everythingAll you guys do is be openly pedophilic talking about Eiko and Krile.
>>564772606Just play it like you play Majora's Mask
>>564772706Then go to Reddit, anon. Why are you even here?
>>564767080The remake is so much better than the original.
>>564772706Then fuck off. Clearly you don't want to be here, and we don't want a whiny tourist like you either.Go back.
>>564772869Well if you managed to scroll up a bit i asked a question. But as usual you guys just talk about pedophilia like these guys >>564772870>>564767080So it's not surprising you can't actually talk about final fantasy.Why are all 4chan users pedophiles?
>>564772985>Well if you managed to scroll up a bit i asked a questionYeah, I'm saying go ask Reddit.
>>564772948>and we don't wantFrom what i'm seeing you guys don't want to talk or even play anything Final Fantasy, you just wanna make parasocial relationships with each other and be openly pedophilic. Have you said Eiko is your wife yet?
>>564772606Stare at Lightning's armpits.
>>564773136Go to Reddit, anon. Stop saying that Reddit is better and then asking us questions. Go ask Reddit. You aren't even complaining about the people of /ffg/ who are actually bad.
>>564772869>>564772948You mindbroke the redditor, it can only rant about his closet pedophilia tendencies.
>>564773780>gaslighting when the pedo comments are still in screen sightyikes.
>>564772398every general on this site is exactly as you describedyou have to be mentally ill to regularly post here
>>564773780Yup, it's malding. How thin-skinned these redditors are.
>>564771614>I've also noticed people in the west tend to like Tifa because they fetishize asian women and Tifa looks stereotypically asian and is more "submissive" like incels like their asian womenI really think it's only the boobs and the blank slate personality. She doesn't even look Asian. If someone liked Asian girls, they'd go for Yuffie. Tifa looks more Jewish than Asian in the Remakes. As for your Reddit question, it seems you've already made up your mind and were never actually asking a question. Nice meltdown, Redditor.
>>564774732> the black hair chinky eyes black eyes woman is not asianUhhh
>>564774847I didn't say that, retard. You need to start greentexting what people actually type, Redditor.
> oy vey
Rydia is so loose
>>564775524Edilions can do that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnPjxM1gFDU
Oh, the fatherless' here.Urgh.
who
> Need to use mods to make the piece of garbage FF 7 is somewhat playableugh
>>564777887Soken BTFO
>>564778536He's been trying out new personalities lately.
>>564778536>>564779387sic 'em sisters.
>>564779205Still looks way better than FFXVI
>>564780610Grow up
Sniping Lightning and Cloud users with Balthier!
Aerith fans are very angry and won't buy part 3 because Aerith died like a dumb bitch again.
>>564780610Your doomer shitposting ways are done.XIV is back and people are admitting XVI was 10/10.Final Fantasy fans won.
>>564781780Unfortunately no one really cares about XIV anymore
>>564781925That couldn't be further from the truth.
>>564781780My hype for Heavensward 2 is at maximum.The madlads gave us everything we wanted.
>>564781780>>564782135>they are fixing literally everything>they even killed FFlogs and raid trannies>meanwhile WoW's newest patch has a canon pride parade and everything is so buggy that they had to issue an apology because nothing worksIt's beautiful. Maybe we aren't on the darkest timeline after all.
/ffg/ only makes sense when you realise 99% of the posters are only here to complain about what others are posting, not because they have any interest in posting anything themselves. It's no more than ten people just refreshing every 5 seconds all day long waiting for someone to blink so they can all pounce and do their shitposting routine.The irony? They all do it to protect /ffg/ from shitposters.
>>564781780Wooow, what a fucking post. You know what, I just doxxed you now, and I'm gonna show everyone what you look like, you fuck. Take this!
>>564782537>WoW's newest patch has a canon pride paradeExcuse me? What the fuck are you talking about?
>>564780610*FFXIVXIV is so fucking ugly.
>>564781780>>564783165It's true, I do actually look like that and I have many beautiful women at my beck and call that appreciate my astute taste in high quality Final Fantasy.
>>564783168see >>564679910There is an actual gay, trans, furry pride parade that is officially and canonically inside of World of Warcraft now.
>>564783487>canonicallyI could understand (barely) having a burial inside a video game (through I can't help but see it as extremely disrespectful, but everyone will mourn in their own ways), but this is just Blizzard desperately trying to make everyone forget all the sexual harassment scandals they had.
>>564783487>gayOkay.>transWeird but okay.>furryDOGFUCKERS GET THE ROPE
>"Well, the males and females are different because of their bone structure"BASED
>>564783856>DOGFUCKERS GET THE MASAMUNEftfy
My wife Eiko is super cute!
>>564679910Careful there, Yoshida really hates transphobia.
>>564785669see >>564784787He just said that the male and female Au Ra characters are different because of their DNA and bone structure.
>>564784787>>564679910Hello XIV bros>>564785669>>564784806Hello VII bro
>>564785931Hello XIV xister!
>>564785931I like XIV as well as VII, anon. I just like Final Fantasy. I'm not a VII-only like /ffg/'s shitposters are.
>>564785882Don't make me post Yoshida's interview where he defends Wuk Lamat and trans rights.
>>564786198You're going to shitpost with and about whatever you want to shitpost about, anon. You've been doing it for years.
I don't watch tranime but seeing FF stuff, seems it's common for weird californian translators to do whatever the fuck they please with the translation huh?LIke i've never seen that done in media before other than that memey Ghost Stories anime that was purposefuly made "funny".But here they do things like ruin the Rinoa is Ultimecia theory or tone down suggestive dialogue or "meandialogue"I'm reading now that they even changed tons of Aerith, Zack and Tifa dialogues to appease to certain shipping fanbases.That's such a weird thing to do, like how in FF 14 they chose a tranny to voice a biologically female character.
>>564771614Perhaps the toxic one is Cloud
>>564786323>shitpostIt's literally Yoshida's words. Is Yoshida a shitposter because he defends trans rights?
>>564786376>seems it's common for weird californian translators to do whatever the fuck they please with the translation huh?It's extremely common. They guy who did shit like this even defends himself any time someone makes a thread about it.
Like, this seems pretty different.Cuz i'd take a retarded fucking retard piece of shit RETARD like Marlene saying "she likes him" as her just saying "they are friends" or whatever, while in the japanese version it's basically done as a cruel "get cucked Zack" and confirming Aerith is romantically interested in Cloud. Anyways, bash Marlene head in with a brick.
>>564786701And this somehows brings back Aerith... how?
>>564787141It doesn't but it seems pretty stupid to pick the resolution scene with Tifa and date with Tifa when the plot bashes you in the head that it wants Aerith x Cloud together.And picking Tifa all along because you know Aerith dies like a dumb bitch feels like you're settling down for less. No matter what you choose Tifa is a cuck. None of the other FF girls like Yuna, Garnet, Rinoa, etc. have to constantly compete for their man's affection but Tifa has to fight a literal dead body. Pathetic.
>>564787702Yuna and Rinoa both cuck the protagonist, so I'm not sure you chose the best examples for good relationships.
>>564787702So pick Aerith. She won't be around in the next game or in the inevitable AC and DC remake.
>>564756449https://web.archive.org/web/20240722225740/https://ffantasyh.com/fanfics/ffh13.htm
>>564786028Never played it, VII sissy.
>>564787884>So pick Aerith. She won't be around in the next gameAerith is 1000% going to be in Part 3. Are you retarded? >or in the inevitable AC and DC remakeShe's in AC, too. Have you consumed any VII media?
>>564787702This kind of meme was made even before Jan31 1997.
>>564788069Have you answered how anything will bring Aerith back yet?
>>564784787Yoshi has always been based
>>564788242No one has ever asked me that question, so no. And I don't think she's coming back.
>>564784787>sues you onto bankruptcy because you called XIV badpsssh nothin personnel
>>564788350So pick Aerith cause she won't be coming back next game.
>>564786701>>564787702Maybe try playing the games first instead of just repeating what shipper Redditors say.Marlene's just a kid. Both she and the player are missing some context, which Aerith clears up later. Aerith literally says:1. She still loves Zack.2. She saw Zack in Cloud the whole time.3. She wants to meet the real Cloud and see if she can start liking him for who he really is, not just the shadow of Zack she saw in him.4. She tells Cloud she likes him, but there are different kinds of 'like,' and now she understands where they both stand. That’s the end of Clerith. Cloud and Aerith never had mutual feelings for each other, unlike Cloud and Tifa, who both had confirmed mutual feelings since kids, kissed and almost kissed while Aerith was still alive, and ended up living together at the end of the story.
>>564771614My wife
>FFVII shipper general
>>564774732Her face was model modelled after her VA, OG one was western
>>564788492>>564788242I think it's pretty obvious they are gonna revive Aerith. Why would they revive Zack but not Aerith?
>>564789589Show everyone her VA
>>564789589>>564789930Her VA looks way better than she does and also doesn't look as Jewish.
>>564789146>confirms she can distinguish between ZackCloud and RealCloud and wants RealCloud>meanwhile Tifa wets herself when he acts like Zack like in the flower moment>Cloud never forgets Aerith and refuses to sleep in the same room as Tifa in the sequelsOk lmao
>>564789843So have you answered how they're bringing back Aerith?
>>564789146>Cloud and Aerith never had mutual feelings for each otherThis is why interacting with the shipping community is so weird. You're all so insecure.You go into denial to pretend the game doesn't have content for both because you know it diminishes both romances.I'm sorry but "Cloud and Aerith never had mutual feelings!!" when the 1st part of the remake has an entire scene with Aerith telling Cloud "DON'T FALL IN LOVEE WITH ME I'LL DIEEE" only for Cloud to not listen is hilarious.Tell me, do people who not have feelings for each other hold each other like this? Why is Cloud crying like a bitch if he didn't love Aerith? >and ended up living together at the end of the story.You mean in that movie in which when Cloud is asked who's the most important person to him he thinks of Aerith and he sleeps in different rooms from Tifa and leaves her constantly?Tifa is literally a onahole for a depressed man who's thinking of a dead woman while being with her lmao.
>>564789146Aerith never met the real Cloud while she was alive btw>>564789843You have no idea what you are talking about. Zack is dead. Stop talking about games you haven't played
>>564789930Okay >>>/v/737639010
>>564790263>/v/Go back.
>>564790128This shows that the perfect ending would be for Tifa to kill herself, Zack to become gay and Cloud to marry Aerith and probably beat her up a little whenever he has depressive manic episodes.
>>564790263Tifa looks like THAT!?
>>564790229>retarded take>reddit pacing...yup.
>>564790256>You have no idea what you are talking about. Zack is dead.You Tifa shippers are very insecure and fragile.
Why do you guys talk about VII so much anyway?
Aerith is a dead whore diseased prostitute
Tifa is a cuck and her boyfriend literally fantasizes all day about a dead woman
>>564790624They've been talking about VII for 30 years. This Remake was made specifically for the Tifa and Aerith shippers who never stopped having this argument. They wont stop after the Remake is done either. They'll still be arguing about Tifa vs Cloud even on their death bed.
>>564790263nuTifa doesn't look like Ayumi Ito. First result on google of her.
>>564790602>that moron needs AI to think for him>>564790705Irrefutable.
I miss Jennifer Connelly Titfa
Why is he hugging her like this if he doesn't love her :O
>>564790858That's because nuTifa just looks like a half Jewish half Japanese hapa, with the Jewish side being most prominent. I have no idea why Square Enix decided to make Tifa Jewish, but I suspect it might have something to do with funding.
Man, I pity aerishitters, unable to look at two characters touching each others without wanting to bang. You just know they never touched anyone in their pathetic, lonely lives.
>>564790990Okay, but don't lie on the internet next time
>>564791225What am I lying about? nuTifa looks Jewish.
> Cloud and Aerith holding hands and hugging and touching each other and crying over each other and talking about love>> Tifa: T-they are just friends! Cloud is mine! i'm not a cuck! I'M NOT A CUKKKKDon't worry Tifa, Cloud and Aerith are just friends! they have no romantic feelings for each other!
>>564791329As long as you agree she doesn't look like Ayumi Ito
>>564790858It's based on her 14yo face when she was doing those illegal IRL pdf file nudity aka the thing actually in Nomura's head.
>>564791575Correct, if this is Ayumi Ito (>>564790858) then she does not look like Ayumi Ito.
>>564791129You struck a nerve.
Only people who like Tifa are weeabo incels who fetishize asian women.
>>564792704If you fetishize asian women, you'd like Yuffie, not Tifa. I legitimately don't know why anyone likes Tifa besides her boobs.
>>564793141
>>564790229Cloud cares about Aerith a lot, she’s his friend just like Zack. He cried like crazy when Zack died too. He just doesn’t love her romantically. Aerith (from the future) saying, "You can't fall in love with me, even if you think you have, IT'S NOT REAL," is basically confirmed to be her talking to herself. And it’s double-confirmed in Rebirth when she realizes that her 'like' wasn’t really love.Remake Aerith is attracted by the Zack resamblance Cloud shows. Rebirth Aerith realized how wrong she was and wants to meet real Cloud. She literally never even met the real Cloud.Cloud only opens his secret hidden feelings /memories to Tifa, nobody else.Cloud says there's nothing he doesn't cherish. He sees Sephiroth kill Aerith when Tifa's in danger.They...they literally sleep in the same bed. She didn't go to her "friend's" room. That's their shared bedroom. The room you’re thinking of is actually a different one and is called Cloud’s office three times in OTWTAS.Cloud’s dying from Geostigma, dealing with survivor’s guilt, and just wants to be forgiven by Aerith so he can go back to his family. In the end, everything gets resolved, and Cloud smiles as he watches Zack and Aerith leave together.
>>564792704Aerishit is still a slut lol
>>564793382Cloud and Aerith described as koibito by Nojima btw
>>564793621>authority argument fallacy
>>564793694>unable to comprehend the obvious writing of two people in love>Nojima doesn't know what he's talking about lol
Aren't Aries and Sephiroth the last of their people? They are destined for reach other to repopulate the master race.
>>564793382>is basically confirmed to be her talking to herself.Lol, are you serious? She knows the future, she was talking to Cloud because she knew she'll die. >realizes that her 'like' wasn’t really love.You're coping hard. That's literally a love confession. Not the opposite of telling her "no actually i like you as a friend".>as he watches Zack and Aerith leave together.You do know Zack's soul disolves into the lifestream... right? He's not in heaven holding hands with Aerith. As i said before, you Tifa shippers are very, very insecure and fragile to the point you need a thousand headcanons and outright deny any romantic scenes with Aerith because they know it makes your Tifa a literal cuckold.
>>564793694You struck a nerve, the reddit shitposter is seething.
>>564793621Koibito means dating. They're not dating. She couldn't even talk to him in the 2 years prior to AC. And even in AC, Zack talked to him first and more.
>>564794039Why are you samefagging? Are you not only insecure about Tifa being a cuck but also insecure about nobody else supporting you that you need to pretend multiple anons agree with your fanfiction?
The old Cloud is in love with Zack, actually, copeNow explain how Hollow is about Zack
>>564794039Yeah, it's very, very angry. What a sad loser lmao.
Reminder there's literal compilations of streamers LOSING THEIR FUCKING MINDS because despite romancing Tifa and kissing her in the date scene, the entire game right after is nothing but Aerith x Cloud hugging, confessing each other's love and holding hands LMAO
>>564793621Actually, '恋人' can be used for unrequited love (you'll find plenty of examples in famous J-pop songs and stuff). For mutual feelings, people might say '恋人同士.' The official translation is 'she had loved him.' The whole thing is from Aerith's POV. Cloud was "a symbol of everything she held dear" *cough Zack cough*h, now you care about Nojima's dialogue? After the huge meltdown Clerith shippers had over the latest novels because it pretty much ruins Clerith? Lo
>>564794521Like you're doing right now? Making an embarassment of yourself?
>>564794521Holding hands with a prostitute. Lol
Tifa crying in the cuck chair the same way her shippers cry.
>>564794594Here koibito is also used btw
>>564794594>*cough Zack cough*How does this dialogue make you feel?What rabid and unhinged headcanons do you start making after reading this? The cherry on the cake of Tifa shippers being insecure is that thye feel really bad about Aerith ending up "alone" that they want to push some sort of "S-she'll end up with Zack" narrative.
>>564794594You struck a nerve.
What is this thread?Non-FF7 players shipping?If you played the game:>Zack x Aerith x Genesis x Angeal x Sephiroth policule>Tifa x Red XIII>Yuffie x Materia>Sephiroth x Jenova>Hojo x any breed-able female
>>564796059>implying Hojo wouldn't go for breedable males as wellWe don't talk about the uterus he put in Cloud.
BETTER DED THAN ALBHED YA
>>564795038Why Nomura made that lip service and then shoves bbc in her holes?
>>564796185Doesn't matter. Cloud and Tifa have issues but they are together.
Aerishitter on suicide watch after Aerith died like the dogfucker she is lol.
>>564795076Crying about Tifa won't make Clerith canon. I already posted about this, are you stupid?Aerith is going through her own grief over Zack and dragging Cloud on "dates" even at the end, trying to recreate her date with Zack in Sec 5. She didn't confront the fact that she was seeing Zack in Cloud until about 48 hours before she died. She was going through her own mess the whole time she knew Cloud and trying to get him to respond to her in the way she wanted. She even told him how to act and what he should say to the point where he had to tell her to stop. Even in a world where Zack isn't present, Aerith recreates her date with him. Even in a world where Tifa doesn't "exist" Cloud doesn't respond to Aerith's obvious advances as expected, essentially friend-zoning her in the end.Aerith is trying to move on, but she just can't. You’re the one wishing she had. Dear Destiny establishes how much she loves Zack, to the point where she only wants to reunite with him. She knows that feeling quite well and has lived with it for years. But with Cloud, she literally says there are many kinds of “likes” and she doesn’t know which it is for Cloud. She’s never even met the real Cloud. The whole two weeks she’d known him he was under a persona. She even has to pardon herself for hugging him.Cloud and Tifa nearly kissed while Aer was alive and well a few feet away and they go on to confirm their feelings for each other and live together raising Denzel as their son so try not to fuck yourself over with that notion immediately. Ask yourself why the scenario writer for VII just wrote a 400+ page book detailing Tifa’s feelings for Cloud & Aerith’s feelings for Zack (and even Cloud’s feelings for Tifa). Ask yourself why he felt the need to put that out there ahead of part 3.
>>564796691>Crying about Tifa won't make Clerith canonQTF
>>564793316I didn't read this. What does it have to do with what I said?
>>564796691>Crying about Tifa won't make Clerith canonIndeed, but fatherless losers keep thinking that the only way to elevate yourself is to drag others down. It's a ghetto way of thinking.
>>564796691>Crying about Tifa won't make Clerith canon.But Aerith already is canon.She's the canon date in the Golden Saucer in both OG and Rebirth. She's the canon date for Cloud as the princess in the LOVELESS play and she even performs a song about her feelings for Cloud.Even if you don't fucking date her Cloud still asks her out on a date.Are you ok?
>>564797296>the only way to elevate yourself is to drag others down.Isn't that what you Tifa incels have been doing this entire thread claiming that Cloud never loved Aerith and Aerith never loved Cloud and there's "nothing romantic at all" between them? lmao. Are all tifacels insecure fragile losers?Why are you like this?Just admit you only like Tifa becuase you fetishize Asian women and move on, stop pretending this is becuase you care about the story or Cloud.
>>564797296You struck a nerve, the fatherless pulled out the good ol' NO U. What a miserable loser, LOL!
>>564796535Kids heal him, not the nasty overly whitewashed secondhand fap material >>>/v/737639010 only you kind lusting over.And "kids" was written using post-disc1 OG "a boy & a girl in the church (where he hallucinated Aerith)" as its motif.
>>564793984No, the Aerith in the resolution is from the future, and it’s confirmed she’s talking to herself. She literally says, 'It’s not real.'>love confessionlmao Aerith saying she still loves Zack and repeats their date from CC with Cloud with Zack symbols all over. Aerith says to Cloud’s face that she doesn’t know what her “like” for Cloud means to her. Ending with Aerith excusing herself for hugging him goodbye. Not something you do with someone who feels mutually.Where is your confession? Not even in AC."I want to be forgiven, more than anything." – Cloud StrifeAnd that’s the reason Cloud wanted to see Aerith, it’s all about him asking for forgiveness and moving on with his life. There’s no love confession or desire to be with her. When they reunite, that’s all he says to her: 'Please forgive me.' No hug, no kiss, no grand declaration of love, no promise to never be apart again, nothing like that. Just 'forgive me,' and once he forgives himself, he goes back home. They even take off the ribbons after that.Zack and Aerith are together in the Lifestream, flirting and joking around. And Cloud’s happy for them. Cope harder.
>>564798154wtf Cloud is a pedo!?
>>564798197>and it’s confirmed she’s talking to herself.Where?Are you making fanfics again? Why are you so insecure?
Can we talk about some relevant Final Fantasy games like XIV maybe?Why so much VII chatter?
>>564798154It's already confirmed that Cloud's Promised Land is his family; Tifa , Denzel and Marlene
>>564798531Devs interview. Toriyama said that when Aerith says, 'Don't fall in love... If you think you have, it’s not real,' she’s actually talking to herself. Basically, she thinks any romantic feelings she has for Cloud aren’t real. She’s been seeing Zack in him the whole time, after all.
>>564798435He's just socially retarded as T(etsuya)N(omura) wants him to be.
>>564798691No one cares about XIV.
>>564798862
>>564798965Why do you keep shitting out secondhand bullshit, uncultured shiteater-kun?
>>564799319Play the game.
>Update: https://www.tokyoplayers.org/event-details/lemons-lemons-lemons-lemons-lemons-2026-02-14-15-00An actual detective anon discovered proof that Kate actually got fired from Square Enix. XIV continues to win.
>>564799580Thank fucking god. I'm so tired of American writers thinking that you need to be amazing to be a main character, without putting any thoughts or effort into it.
>>564799709Her real crime is that she got Wuk Lamat's tranny VA nepotism hired and is an "ally" and "political activist"
>>564797668Aerith was never and will never be canon, shipper schizo.Read my post again. There's no confession. Aerith is Cloud's friend, and nothing more. Aerith asked him to play along. He won't even give her the gift she wants. The whole dream date is Aerith going "play along" and even then Cloud won't cross lines, he confronts her and calls her weird, he says they're just friends, he's literally losing his mind and she's pushing him into Zack's role.
>>564799943Funny that nepotism is always bad, except when it's in favour of "minorities". And funny how anyone can claim to be a minority by pretending to be bi, or xe/xhem.
>>564799580
>>564797668The song is not about one person.If you wanna use a VR hologram for your ship go ahead. It's fake, just like Clerith. It’s not real.
>>564799580See >>564776030.
>>564800198B-B-But... if you count the musical notes in FFVII's theme, ithe notes make 12-15-26-15-5, which spells "CLUD ND AERI FTZ", which means "Cloud and Aerith FTW", which is the dev sneaking the OTP in!!!!
>>564799580Fake news. /ourgirl/'s still working at SE.
>>564799580That's just a volunteer theatre group though...
How do I get into FFXIV?
>>564800213I don't know what that has to do with anything but:>blauSTEINGive me a QRD on "YunYun Syndrome"
>>564800405>>564800507You can't even make up your mind, tranny...
>>564800552Just download it. It has the most generous free trial of anything ever. And very soon, Shadowbringers is being added to the free trial, and that's the best MSQ, so you can play the best part of the MSQ for free beginning Tuesday I believe.
>>564799975All you subhuman can do is to lie after pervious lies? wont be surprised if you illiterate cucks unironically believe the secondhand bullshit shoved into your throats tho.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ0LzQMQATI&t=72
>>564800562Just a silent comment on how American translators and writers suck in general. I'll just link to these: >>564636784 & >>564639558, and let you read, with no comment needed.>>564799975Irrefutable.
>>564800071It really do be like that. Thank you, Charlie Kirk, for Making XIV Great Again!
>>564800071>>564800927qrd?
>>564800863>American>>American>>>American>>>>American>>>>>AmericanBro, his name was BlauSTEIN. Do I need to spell it out more for you?
>>564801147Not proving me wrong.
>>564801125No one liked Kate. Everyone knew pink hair was danger. She took over as lead of localization in Dawntrail. Koji Fox was loved by everyone and was previously said to be integral to the story of XIV even though his role was "only" localization; he does so much more than that, including writing lyrics. So Kate comes on and everyone is skeptical because she's a pink danger hair, and then Dawntrail ends up sucking and she gets her tranny friend nepotism hired for the lead role, which is supposed to be a South American woman. Then people start watching Kate's Twitter, and of course she retreats to Bluesky when Elon buys Twitter. She ends up being such an extremist left wing activist that she even says that Bluesky is too constraining for her and she says she is going to go to private Discord communities, but apparently she did go crawling back to Bluesky at some point. When Charlie Kirk got assassinated she began celebrating it and did all the things you think an extreme left wing activist might do.
>>564800731Do you need to play all the expansions in order or can you skip them and just jump straight into the new one?
>>564801573You need to play them all in order. And not every single element of them builds on each other, but Shadowbringers is kind of a culmination of things, so you do need to play through the other expansions to "get" everything in Shadowbringers. Shadowbringers is legitimately one of the best stories in Final Fantasy, though the expansions leading up to it are either mid or bad.
>>564800741Sasuga Nojima
>>564801569lol what a dumb bitch
Holy kinohttps://x.com/DDFF_EN/status/2047978937100189725?s=20
Reminder Cloud and Tifa sleep in different rooms and remain childhood friends at the end of the compilation lol
>>564802176Even with Rikku finally getting into Dissidia, I have no interest in playing a p2w PvP gacha game.
>>564800741>ad hominem>can't refute anything>end up proving me right, regardless of what you do, the outcome is the same: Aerith loves Zack, and doesn’t know what kind of 'like' she feels for Cloud. Cloud never confess because she's just a friend. Clerith is deadI accept your defeat.
>>564802176FUN FUN FUN
>>564801737>You need to play them all in orderHow many ours is that?
Superior happy ending coming in part 3
>>564803717Maybe like 150-200 hours. If you just do the MSQ, each expansion is like 40-60 hours.
>>564803894Nice fanfic. Too bad Cloud never loved Aeristh, driving her to seek suicide at Sephiroth's hands.
this thread is so fucking horrible what the fuck happened?
>>564804091Tifa vs Aerith
>>564804091A retarded fatherless VIIRgin who never played the real game happened.
>>564804091Aerith shipper reddit tourist who hasn't played the games dropped by
/ffg/ should unit and play Duellum together
Cloud will get Aerith back in part 3 and finally be happy
I cut the unnecessary part.
>>564798965>Devs interview.May i see it? :)
>>564799975>Aerith is Cloud's friend, and nothing more.Why are you so insecure?
>>564804673Don't worry anon, that's just a man crying over his FRIEND, he's holding her and being all touchy touchy and he canonically went on dates with her and was told by her to not fall in love with her but failed to not do so and was literally amazed by her when he saw her in her dress, but they are just friends, according to the very insecure weeabo with an asian woman fetish.
>Tifa is the true love because ummmm she just is>No Aerith is the winner because ummm stuff and thingsBoth of these sides are retarded. The real winner is clearly Sephiroth. Everything that Cloud says and does is influenced by his past with him. That's why guys can't agree on a clear winner, because the game is actually meant to appeal to homosexuals and women.
>>564805683Why are you so afraid of the truth? Aerith is Cloud's precious friend, just like Zack. Cloud and Tifa confirm their feelings for each other and have plenty of official quotes showing they have mutual feelings. Cloud and Aerith don't have that.
>>564805859Clerith shippers sure love romanticizing a death scene (which is a 1:1 of Sonon's sister's death scene). Not really surprising, coming from people who romanticize suicide. Aerith has "dates" with Tifa. She calls hanging out with everyone dates. Cloud'd already told her to stop calling everything a date. He never felt in love with her, after all it's not real. He didn't recognize Aerith in the dress, and using that for your ship is kinda funny. Tifa didn't need an expensive dress, heavy makeup, and hair extensions to be called "beautiful" by Cloud.
>>564808271Sleeping in different rooms, forever childhood friends.It's over Tifabro, our girl was never going to win.
>>564808452>Cloud thinks of Aerith first and second when Sephiroth asks about his most precious thingTifabro... we just can't win... a memory or us
>>564809441>>564809675See >>564793382At the end of the compilation, three years after AC, Cloud, Tifa, and Denzel are happily living together, and Tifa is described as the mother of Cloud’s family. Both having mutal romantic feelings. Meanwhile, Aerith is just the same as Zack, both of them dead friends.You can't refute anything because you're just here to shitpost.
>>564810092Tifabro.... they sleep in diferente rooms... our girl was left behind by a man... Nojima said they wouldn't work out even without geostigma... she's a mother to Cloud.... I can't go on... why do they do this to our girl...
>Evercold already forgottenWhat went wrong?
Primals concert was so sickEVERCOLD is gonna be peak 10/10 FF kino
>>564810505Everyone's talking about it, just not in this thread. You are free to start the conversation.
>>564810252TRVKE
>>564810473Already refuted. They sleep in the same bed. Cloud came back home after curing his Geostigma, and they’re still together three years later. Both were dealing with trauma and needed healing. He was talking about Cloud and Tifa in the context of love and marriage lol. She’s the mother of his family, there are confirmed mutual romantic feelings, and Denzel even calls them his parents. Meanwhile, you’ve got Aerith and Zack flirting and joking about adopting Cloud, and Cloud calls Aerith ‘mother.’ I could go on... But you’re just deflecting and moving the goalposts. At the end of the day, you can’t change the fact that Cloud and Tifa are confirmed to be in love, while Clerith is not. The new novels pretty much killed Clerith.
>>564811801Tifabro... our fanfics go against the written text... she's a mother to Cloud who sleeps in a different room... it's over
>>564803947>150-200 hoursSo the guy who said Rebirth was longer was lying huh
>>564811801They got Cid and Shera married yet kept Cloud and Tifa as childhood friends... Cloud looks miserable in the cover drawn by Nomura... it's over..... they were never going to make them canon
>>564812414No one ever said Rebirth is longer.
>>564810686I couldn't find a restream :(
>>564812725I remember a XIVfag saying it
>>564814116If someone said it, surely you can find the post.
honkai final fantasy collab….
Balthierbros how the fuck are we going to kill anyone if they have double HP from Rikku...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxe6lx7F8jo
>>564814116>>564814258I guess no one ever said that.
>>564812607They literally sleep together in the novel, they have a conversation in bed at night. Barret and Marlene don’t live with Cloud and Tifa, they have their own place. Marlene only stays with them when Barret leaves her there while he goes off searching for alternative energy sources to replace Mako. And Cloud’s room? That’s his office, not their bedroom.>>564812607>Dirge guidebook Same guide describes how Cloud sees Aerith from his perspective, as a friend on the same level as Zack. It's funny to me that Aerith shippers try to use the DoC manual as proof of anything, considering the guy who wrote it admitted he had no communication with the developers and just made stuff up, like Tifa running an orphanage.Also, you don’t just stop having a childhood bond (the very bond Aerith herself envies when she’s on the water tower) just because you start a relationship. Like, what do people expect? That getting into a relationship suddenly erases all the history leading up to that point?Case of Denzel is set a year after DoC, which is the furthest timeline-wise from the compilation. It shows Denzel still living with Cloud and Tifa. The three of them together and Cloti are Denzel’s parents.>they were never going to make them canonBut enough about Clerith. You can't prove Clerith is real because there's no actual content for it. Your only move is to try and disprove Cloti, but that's impossible since Cloti is more canon than ever now. The new novels are filled with the canon couples, Cloti and Zerith, leaving no room for interpretation. That’s why Clerith’s popularity keeps declining. New material keeps coming out, and all Clerith shippers can do is throw tantrums.
>>564815878I'm not watching your videoGive me a quick rundown instead
>>564818230>Give me a quick rundown insteadIf you can apologize for your outburst and then tell me that you already knew the entire time that it's (of course) not my video and that you were just shitposting, I'll give you a greentext summary.
>>564817131Tifabro... more fanfics... "room actually means office"... no one is going to believe that... Marlene always sleeps with Tifa.... Barret also has a room there because he lives with them but left temporarily.... they are a family of friends... Nojima made her feelings maternal... our walls of text don't change canon.... it's over
>>564817131.....Tifabro.... "just because they are always listed only as childhood friends doesn't mean they are not a romantic couple, they just don't say it, even if they don't mind saying Shera and Cid married"....this is our worst cope yet... it's over... his undying feelings for Aerith mentioned by Nojima and Nomura won't go away....
>>564818352I-I'm sorry anon-kun.... pls spoonfeed me
>>564815878>How F2P friendly is this game?>Looks inside >Mf spend money on the game>Bought out all the seasonal packsThat automatically makes this video useless and irrelevant
>>564818573Of course, anon!***DISCLAIMER: He whaled. His judgement is based on him owning the pass, but to his credit he practically didn't use any of his paid coins>if you focus on 1, maybe 2 characters, you can get to high diamond or low omega as f2p>because of the way the pulls work, you will naturally get other character's abilities>he has like 4 character's abilities (besides Rinoa, his main) just from luck>he's saving everything for Clive, so he didn't pull much (?)>his Rinoa is 11k power, if he switches to one of the characters he has abilities for, they are automatically 10k power due to the way support skills work>advice: don't invest into multiple characters because of growth eggs (?)>after a few months, you will eventually be able to play other charactersThere was no definitive yes or no as to whether it's f2p, just describing his experience.
Why does Tifa cream herself at the idea of cool hero Cloud? Are the devs trying to tell us something?
>>564818567Schizo, see >>564796535
>>564819203In case some weirdo denies it.
>>564819378>hero>hero>love
>>564819248Tifabro... our cope image doesn't say anything about romance.... they are together as a family of friends like the novel says.... it's over
>>564819203You mean during the VR play?
>>564819378Redditbirth isn't canon anyway
>>564818385Barret has his own place. He helps Cloud and Tifa build the new 7th Heaven, then just dips. If you'd actually read it, you'd know the room is called Cloud's office three times in the novel.>>564818567>no argumentSasuga. Cloud’s undying feelings of friendship for Aerith, just like the ones he has for Zack... RIP Clerith. Meanwhile, Cloti has confirmed mutual romantic feelings, multiple times...It's 2026 and Aerith shippers are still using outdated translations dated 20 years ago lol.Pic related is the official most recent passage we have. This is the canon.Cloud and Tifa aren't Denzel's friends, they are his parents.
>>564819203It's just how she is, she's always liked Cloud because he promised to be her hero. In remake he gives her the flower acting like Zack and she leaks like a faucet, when he stops acting like that in the sequels she's frustrated as hell.
>>564820116Tifabro... more fanfics... "Barret has his own place trust me bro, ignore Tifa being called mother of the family AND Cloud".... our cope just goes against canon.. it's over
What will be the lyrics when Tifa sings the theme song of part 3?
... Is all the VII spam here suddenly just because XIV fanfest is going on? You guys are so weird.
>>564821052No one really cares about XIV... Everyone is all about VII...
>>564820438You have no arguments. Tifa is the mother of the family that she and Cloud built in Edge. That’s the quote. And she’s like a mother and a koibito. That’s the other quote. Tifa has a nurturing personality and is the one who 'wears the pants' in the relationship (Cid describing the Cloti relationship in the novel). You’re not gonna make it through part 3 at this point.
>>564821052You are free to spam your entry of choice
>>5648210527R fans are very insecure.Anything FF related going on that doesn't focus on VII compilation material in some way is seen as a direct attack on them.
>>564821685Tifabro.... we are heading towards Tifa being abandoned by a man and becoming Cloud's mother while he thinks about Aerith all day long... still childhood friends in DoC when Aerith's been dead for three years... it's over...
>>564821685>Tifa has maternal feelings for Cloud>The quote is not real!How do you gaslight yourself to this level lol
>>564822021Cloud thinks about Zack as much too
Yoshi-Hack can't save Final Fantasy... Only FFVII can...
>>564822365The image doesn't say that, lol
>>564822451>Yoshi-Hack can't save Final Fantasy... Only FFVII can...Meanwhile, in reality: >XIV is the most relevant Final Fantasy and has been for the past several years>XVI outsold Rebirth while having half the budget
>>564822000>>564822587Giga based and true
What will be the next MMO? XVIII?
>>564822556It says that. In fact the end of Episode of Tifa when she called Cloud and he didn't answer, it was the start of AC that henwent to visit Zack's grave. Like why wouldn't he think of Zack?
>>564822021>no argument>now she's just rambling after getting completely shut downYou lost. Just like Clerith.>>564822325Who are you quoting?>>564822365The only thing Cloud thinks about when it comes to Aerith is 'I want to be forgiven.' He’s dealing with survivor’s guilt, thinking he doesn’t deserve to be happy and that he’s useless because he can't save his family. And this was only for a short period of time. When you think about it, in AC, to Cloud, Aerith was just a way for him to get back to his family. In the end, Cloud ends up forgiving himself.
>>564822846Hopefully the next MMO wont be a numbered entry>t. XIVfag cultist whatever
>>564823125Tifabro... the mother of Cloud's family and Cloud, as clarified by Nojima and Nomura
>>564823125Tifasis... why is Cloud guilty the way Vincent is?... are his feelings... romantic... no, please it can't be true...
>>564821052Huh. I didn't make that connection, but maybe. Weird that, free to their own devices, they melted down at each other about Tifa and Aerith. When their enemies are gone, they even argue with each other.
>>564823416Question is, why don't he just kill himself to be with Aerith?
>>564824142Why won't he get in a relationship with Tifa?
>>564824249He is in AC.
>>564823228Nojima and Nomura clarified that Tifa is the mother of Cloud’s family (Denzel’s mother, Cloud’s the father), a koibito, and the one who 'wears the pants' in their relationship, all in the context of love and marriage.>>564823416>both share guilt of 'not being able to protect someone important'Aerith is very important to him, just like Zack. He made that pretty clear.>>564824142Because he doesn't want to be with her. He wants forgiveness, nothing more. That's what shippers don’t get, Cloud just wants to live. He was fighting for his goddamn life. The theme of AC is survival, said Nojima. He said if you want to survive you have to fight hard for it. If Cloud wanted to off himself to be with Aerith, he knew exactly where she was and could’ve have gone at any time. But he didn’t. Know why? Because he wanted to live. He wanted to be with his family but felt like a failure. He wanted forgiveness and to be absolved of the guilt that was causing him to that very inadequacy about protecting his loved ones. If you think Cloud Strife wanted to die, like ever, then it ALL went over your head, you’re a dumbass, and your coke-bottle shipping glasses need to be cracked wide-open.>>564824249They're literally in a relationship.
>>564824309Hahahahahaha
>>564824489No, Nojima clarified Tifa is the mother of their makeshift family and maternal to Cloud too, blind friend.They have never been in a relationship, they are still only childhood friends in DoC.And his undying feelings for Aerith are clearly distinguished from his feelings for everyone else, lol.
>>564824797So he should kill himself to be with her.
>>564825049So your argument is>if he loved her he would kill himself?
>>564824797>rambling again after getting completely shut downI accept your defeat.Since you love the DoC manual so much, here are Cloud’s feelings for Aerith: friendship, on the same level as Zack.It’s too bad that after AC, Cloud took off his ribbon in memory of Aerith, and she was never mentioned again. Then he went on to live his life, free of problems, with his beloved Tifa.
>>564824309Irrefutable.
>>564825198Why wouldn't he? What's keeping him? Tifa?
>>564825514>your own translation LolCloud and Tifa have never and will never be called a romantic couple post OG. Because their romance is affinity points based. That's why they are not in a romantic relationship and remain childhood friends in the sequels, lol.
>>564825679You also ask yourself why widowers don't kill themselves or something?
>>564825759>no argument againLol. They’ve been called a romantic couple many times, their romance is the story, and that’s why Clerith crackshippers have constant meltdowns. No matter what they do, they can't disprove Cloti.
>>564825849Because killing yourself is a sin and depending on your religion you will have to wait until after armageddon to be with your eternal lover? And they will just move on and remarry.
>>564761285xiv has always been advertised as an ff theme park. it does not exist to be its own thing but instead to be all FF's in one
>>564762170that's a dude.
>>564826271>it does not exist to be its own thing but instead to be all FF's in oneThat's not fair.
>>564825849You didn't answer the question
>>564826020Tifa is the childhood crush he got over, Aerith is the woman he loved and lost, and Barret, Tifa, Marlene and Denzel are his found family. That's the story. No amount of your headcanon will change it, lolSquare tripled down on childhood friends and family of friends in AC and DoC, as always.
>>564826489Cloud answered himself? He feels living is the only option after others gave his life to protect him.
>>564826623So Aerith is not more important than his family?
>>564826821>lives to honor her sacrifice You're not very smart, are you? And both are important to him, Aerith and his platonic family of friends
>>564826536
>>564826536All of that’s already been debunked. You’re just running in circles because you have no arguments.Tifa is the girl Cloud’s been in love with since he was a kid. Their childhood love is explored in-depth in the new novels, so it’s undeniable. They become aware of their feelings for each other in the Lifestream. They confirm their feelings for each other without using words, confirmed mutual romantic feelings. They move on to live together, with Cloud willingly starting a life with Tifa by his side because she’s all he needs to be okay. They form a family and live happily ever after. That’s the story of FFVII.Meanwhile, the Clerith story is the one where she pursues Cloud because he reminds her of Zack and then tragically dies before getting to know the real Cloud and is reunited with her true love, Zack forever. That's a Zerith story line with Clerith being nothing more than friends lol.
>>564827357Your fanfic has already been debunked plenty of times by the authors. Tifa was his childhood crush, their romance is affinity points based. Aerith and Cloud have a tragic love story. Cloud and Tifa are a platonic family and live together as friends, in separate rooms. They are still childhood friends at the end of the compilation. Cloud will never forget Aerith. This is the story they wrote, not me.
>>564827236But he cannot have sex with Aerith if he's not dead. Cannot even talk to her in fact.
Not a shipper, by the way, I'm just "enjoying the characters and the relationships" by arguing strongly in favour of the relationship I personally like mo- I mean, in favour of the canon. And stomping out support for the relationship I don't li- that isn't canon.
>>564827556
Tifa's outfit was just censored, tf?
>>564827540Nice fanfic you got there. The authors keep reinforcing my canon story with each new release, you dumb fuck lmao. The latest novels completely destroyed Clerith.The affection mechanics don’t change Cloud’s feelings. They just influence how other characters feel about him. You can “date” Tifa, Barret, Aerith, or Yuffie in VII, but that doesn’t alter the fact that Cloud’s feelings for Tifa are beyond the player's control. He’s loved her for years, it’s revealed in the Lifestream, confirmed on the Highwind, and they end up living together because of it. That’s the canon story.At the start of FF7 and up until around Disc 2, Cloud’s responses are based on the player’s choices, but once Cloud reconnects with his true self, those choices stop. He starts thinking for himself. "I’m not a puppet anymore." So, player choices were never really part of the official plot.Even in the official materials, Cloud is only mentioned to have romantic feelings for Tifa. Aerith will always just be a precious friend, just like Zack.
>>564827976Is this only for Tifa? Will they start censoring 2B?
>>564827760I just assumed that Cloud would want to talk to Aerith. He obviously doesn't want to.
>>564828623Even the theme songs for the games prove you wrong. The affection mechanic is to let (You) pursue Tifa in an optional route that is ignored in the sequels. In Rebirth, it's ignored in the same game and he's already dating Aerith again by the end, lol. Aerith and Cloud are koibito, as described by Nojima.
>>564827976eos soonwho care
>>564827976Aerith won.
>>564828824that's a man.
>>564828824I WILL get her
>>564828785Surely we can come up with a better way to downplay this. We have to. People are going to use this as a way to criticize SE, and we need them to know this isn't a big deal.
>>564828906trannigga >>>/v/737666405 stop thinking about cocks.
>>564828781>theme songsSee >>564800198The affection mechanic is for people like you Aerithfags. Tifa is the story. See >>564827357You're a schizo.
>>564829182that's a woman.
>>564829197>Nomura admitting he doesn't want Cloud to end up with Tifa even if Aerith diesHuh?
>>564829182Are the shorts to hide her feminine penis?
>>564829327He’s talking about the Aerithfags who complain that their input doesn’t matter because Cloud and Tifa are the story. The affection system is just there for fanservice, but in the end, it doesn’t change anything. Just like the affection system in FFX.
>>564829143cute trans boy.
>>564829542No? >I might end up with Tifa (because of Aerith's death)... I WANTED TO GET RID OF THAT APPROACH You just posted undeniable proof their romance is optional in the OG, and Nomura feels he made it completely skippable on purpose.
>>564829691More like cute beautiful angel
>>564827976>another Tifa banner that’s about to outsell FloprithNeato
>Tifa vs Aerith has been happening for 12 hours straight nowI guess this beats the usual schizophrenia. And it's a nice change of pace too.
>>564829903See >>564828623Cloud’s feelings for Tifa are there no matter what the player chooses, because Tifa is the story. He point blank says Tifa is the plot and there is no "branching paths". There is no triangle. One is canon and the other was fanservice that reflected the PLAYER'S feelings, not Cloud's. This is why only they have canon and official sources stating their feelings were mutual and reciprocated. Aerith is always just described as a precious friend. And with every new release, Clerith just keeps sinking more and more.
>>564831318>I might end up with Tifa because of Aerith's death>I wanted to get rid of that approachThe game ends in the same place. You can romance Tifa but it will end with Cloud wanting to reunite with Aerith and not thinking of Tifa as his romantic partner. The exact same as Rebirth. You can romance Tifa if you want, it's going to end with Cloud in love with Aerith. As always.
>>564831318All off Masato Kato's dogshit are always a joke amongst literate people, only you secondhand bullshiteaters believe those ackshually mean something.
It's always funny how much of Final Fantasy discussion is>"okay but that doesn't count">"ignore that it doesn't mean anything">"that canon piece of information isn't actually canon"an so on.
>only you secondhand bullshiteaters believe those ackshually mean something.>>564832064
>>564831653Will he think of Aerith his beloved when he have sex with Tifa under the Highwind?
>>564832152why real people would "count" some temp jobber's hasty dogshit made in the last 2 monthes of 1996?
>>564832252You mean their affection points based conversation?
>>564831653>The game ends in the same placeWith Cloud’s been in love with Tifa for years, his secret tender wish is revealed in the Lifestream, feelings confirmed on the Highwind, and they end up living together because of it. Them agreeing to go see their dead friends doesn’t change any of that. In fact, Nojima even added a scene in the novel where Cloud says he’s ready to start a life with Tifa by his side because she’s all he needs to be okay. There’s never any real love for Aerith anywhere. You can’t post a Clerith confirmation of mutual love because it doesn’t exist, unlike Cloti. And Rebirth pretty much crushed Clerith by having Aerith admit she’s still in love with Zack and isn’t even sure what kind of like she has for Cloud. By the end, she finally understands where she and Cloud stand. Not to mention Dear Destiny, which is basically a Clerith shipper’s worst nightmare.
>>564832620So they just talk all night?
>>564832893>players might feel they have to end up with Tifa because of Aerith's death>I wanted to get rid of thatYou already proved your twisting of the facts goes against the creators' intentions. Cloud and Tifa never get together, we only discover Cloud had a childhood crush on her. Aerith is the canon option that died. Tifa is the optional choice.
>>564832064Nojima has done nothing but reinforce Kato’s work. Kato also worked on the Lifestream scene, and as we can clearly see in the latest entries, Nojima has stuck to that lore and even EXPANDED on it. It must be tough knowing that Nomura and Kitase’s favorite moment in FFVII is the Lifestream scene. Tough luck, official lore haters.
>>564832939No, they also fall asleep.
>>564833225When it says they spend the night together in your screenahot it means they just talk and fall asleep? Do they cuddle?
>>564833386Yes if your affection points are high enough. That's why Tifa says her "words aren't the only way" phrase in the high affection scene. In the low affection scene she just begs Cloud to let her sleep on his shoulder. In both scenes she says she's aware it's a one time thing and won't be repeated.
>>564832152It's just a coincidence that everything that supports my arguments is very important and canon and everything that doesn't was just the devs joking around and not canon or important.
>>564833749Says here they snuggled no matter the affection level
>>564833117See >>564831318And there's no "might" there in the JP text. That's a Clerith translation.I already proved that Cloud’s romantic feelings for Tifa are mutual and beyond the player’s control. Cloud loving Tifa for years, is revealed in the Lifestream, confirmed on the Highwind without words, and they end up together because of it, that’s not optional. Cloud does not show love for Aerith anywhere else in the original, even with the added affinity system, Cloud still canonically confesses his love to Tifa and end up with her.
>>564833930You're completely friend, I just check and they fall asleep snuggling in both versions, you finally got something right.But why did you leave out the "this day will never come again" ?
>>564834913Is it because of the meteor?
>>564834419It confirms Nomura didn't want you to get the wrong idea of Cloud ending up with Tifa. And that arguing he does goes against what he tried to represent in the game.
>>564835047No, Tifa is aware it's a one time thing, only allowed because they might die in the final battle anyway. And she's right, it never happens again.
>>564835171So when Cloud says the same in the high affinity route, is it because of the meteor?
>>564835251They're saying they are only doing this because they might die the next day. Otherwise they wouldn't do it. It's the bridge effect in Japan, heightened emotions due to danger that fade once the danger passes. That's why they don't do it again.
>>564835760What will they not do again?
>>564835065Cloud ending up with Tifa is not optional. It's not a matter of "might" end up with Tifa. There is no alternative because Cloud and Tifa's love is the story. Nomura added Aerith optional fanservice that reflected the player's feelings, not Cloud's.
>>564835934Snuggle together, blind friend.
>>564835947Then how did he get rid of people thinking they had to end up with Tifa? Please stop correcting his words, he said what he said. Her romance is optional.
>>564836006But here's a scene in the future where they sleep together.
>>564836098Sounds like you didn’t play the game, then, because their romance isn’t optional, it's part of the plot story. It doesn't matter what your interpretation is. Cloud does not show love for Aerith anywhere else in the original, even with the added affinity system, Cloud still canonically confesses his love to Tifa >>564831318
>>564836153That's not what the text says. It says she wakes Cloud up. He was sleeping alone. And we know she sleeps with Marlene in different room.
>>564836429Nomura thinks he got rid of people thinking Cloud ends up with her, by making sure her romance is completely optional. Something maintained in retrilogy.
>>564836542She waited for him to answer all night? Also we know in the movie that Marlene and Denzel sleep together in the same room
>>564836741Open your book and read the page again.
>>564837049It says she waited for him to answer until morning
>>564836642See >>564831318 Tifa is the story, and Aerith is just optional fanservice. Aerith’s story is with Zack, the retrilogy made that pretty clear.You didn’t play the original. We know.
>>564837124I shared the image friend. It doesn't say that. You can hope they make them non-optional in part 3, but given the two previous games it's not a great track record.
>>564837490Cloud and Aerith are the only ones described as koibito. Nojima wrote that after AC and CC. Sorry.
>>564837701I also shared the image friend. It says that.https://thelifestream.net/novels-novellas/on-the-way-to-a-smile-episodetifa/5/
>>564837790Should we ignore the newer Nojima books?
>>564838078We're FF fans. We'll ignore whatever we need to in order to be correct.
>>564837830Buy the book. It's page 47.
>>564837695Oh no.
>>564837695F R I E N D Z O N E D
>>564838078The books giving context to the girls' first love? In the past? Explaining Tifa doesn't understand Cloud and they were never close? That Aerith felt a pure longing for Zack and not true love?No, they add context to the story. And you seem to need all the context you can get.
>>564838361Looks like we have a case of preferential translation. Like you would defend the translation of koibito here to sweetheart right?
>>564837790See >>564794594And that's false, Cloti and Zerith are described as koibito. Nojima wrote Rebirth, where Aerith says she’s still in love with Zack and isn’t sure what kind of 'like' she has for Cloud. By the end, Aerith finally understands where she and Cloud stand. Ending with Aerith excusing herself before hugging him goodbye. He also wrote Trace of Two Pasts, 2000 Gil to become a hero, and Dear Destiny. And Clerith shippers hate those books for some reason. Mmm I wonder why >>564796691
>>564838742Sorry your fanmade translation was not published. But thank you for accepting Cloud and Aerith being lovers is the right translation. And Tifa is never mentioned to be Cloud's koibito lol
>>564838835Who is Tifa's koibito?
>>564838789Show me the pages.Sorry you don't understand Nojima's writing. "One night mistake" resolution hug must have been surprising for you. Nojima is writing Tifa doesn't know Cloud and Aerith didn't get to spend time with Zack in the new novels.
>>564837695Shiteater update your secondhand bullshit, and that's some sort of service made for both mentally and socially retards like you.https://web.archive.org/web/20240226015715/https://seizetheawkward.org/final-fantasy
>>564838950see >>564796185
*pssst**crack*Yep.
Disgusting thread
>>564840595I dunno. I don't give a shit about Tifa or Aerith but at least this shipper wars fight is some different posting than normal.
>>564840716ECLAIRE IS BEST WAIFU AND IF YOU DISAGREE YOUR A PEDO ANDA FRENCHMAN
>>564839021>you don't understand Nojima's writinglmao now that's some quality copingYou lot are still having nightmares and coming up with a new cope every day over that tender kiss, which is described as a key moment of character growth for Cloud. Cloud took the initiative to grow his relationship with Tifa both times. Hope you’re ready for Tifa saving Cloud from *checks notes* the pit of despair with her love and affection, Cloud confessing, confirming their mutual romantic feelings without using words, Aerith *cheeks notes* reunites with her true love Zack, while crackshippers only get a fucking funeral in part 3.
>>564840716You made the mmochild cry about XIII again, good job king.
How did "both sides" turn my post into a shitpost.
>>564840928I don't know I need some proofPost her pits
>>564819028Why do these videos always fucking ignore that casual matches sync every player to the lobby's level?
>>564840716I'm also not interested in shipper wars but monitoring the thread regardless. I'm not contributing either but you can be sure I'll jump in if I see something that requires a routine deployment.>>564840928>>564841120Nice work, guys.
>>564841224Welcome to /ffg/. Enjoy your stay.
>>564841461Cute.
>>564841338He did mention something about casual matches but who cares about casualfags? Why would you play a ranked p2w PvP game just to play casual?
>>564840964He's the one who described Cloud as Aerith's koibito and her love with Zack as pure and platonic.And all he said about the kiss is it reminds him of dating sims. I'm assuming it means you go after a character and receive a reward for your efforts. A kiss for Tifa. Connection to the story for Aerith.
>>564841535And funny!
PLS REPSOND
Hope the rumor is true.If this schizo had another general to shitpost, this would be so fucking funny
>>564841867Off-topic.
>>564842031What's the rumor?
>>564842031
>>564841461But is it morally correct to have impure thoughts about Rydia?
>>564842031What brings you here if you're more interested in thread personality discussion than final fantasy?
>>564842182>>564842245pretty sure hes talking about Tifa in SF6
>>564842762She's a child...
>>564842763you see anyone itt discuss final fantasy huh?In been like this for a long time, you can't fool me
At the end of the day, VII is still better than XIII.>>564842762No. Unless she's adult. Otherwise, you're being turned on by a flat girl with no ass.
>>564844476Everyone here is talking about FF other than you. You're here with exciting news about a shitposter who uses more than one general. Can't wait to hear more.
How do Tifa cucks feel that Kingdom Hearts declaes Aerith x Cloud as the canon couple?
Even Fallout 76 states Aertih x Cloud is canon
Tifa seething.Aerith dabbing.
Even Caith Sith confirms Aerith x Cloud as canon and Tifa has a melty lmaooo
Surprised the tifakek hasn't posted bestiality or interracial yet in response.
Why is Aerith what "Cloud cherishes most"?
> Unrequited love is so sad... poor Tifa>> Tifa when Cloud was in love with her but she didn't pay attention to him as a child: HA HA HA.
After interacting with both incel shipping communities i've come to the conclusion that Tifa fans are extremely insecure and fragile and their worldview only works by pretending Aerith is not even part of the story or doesn't exist and furiously seething when hand holding scenes exist or denying love confessions.While Aerith chads know Tifa is into Cloud, don't deny Tifa and Cloud have moments, but just don't like how the pair works, or don't like Tifa character or don't find them interesting.But nobody who ships Cloud with Aerith does shit like "T-tifa was never in love with Cloud! CLoud never had interest in Tifa... Tifa is not even part of the story!"
I ain't saying she's a gold digger but she ain't messing with no broke nigga.
Tifa is honestly a bitch and it would be poetic justice if she gets breast cancer and needs to have her breasts removed, you'll see how 99% of her fans would abandon her immediately.
Aerith is a dead whore
Final a good Duellem character. Clive is going to destroy Cloud mains.
>>564854325But enough about your dead whore mother.
Damn, the Aerishitter is so mindbroken that he's doing that fatherless thing of trying to drag better characters down.
Oooh, this is what it's about.
Tifa cucks are just coping, it's obvious Aerith is the canon Resolution date in Remake and the canon Loveless Rosa and Golden Saucer in Rebirth.You Tifa losers can get your sex scene in part 3, but 1 and 2 is canonically Aerith's.
>>564855416>>564855587What a life
TifaCHADS living rentfree in the Aerishitter's head.
>>564855756Oooh, that's what the aerishitter is doing, trying to sully Tifa so that it can sell its AI comic of Aerishit since Tifa is now off-limit to fatherless c00mers..
>>564855756> Tifa is only popular because she's literally a dumb bimbo liked by incels who fetishize asian womenTell me tell me tell me tell me something i don't know, something i don't know. Must suck that there's this love story in which one side actually cares about the important lore character whom the protagonist canonically loves... and then there's the other character who's just there for the porn lmao.No wonder Tifa cucks don't have a gf in real life.
Why are all tifa fans incels?
>>564856198Yeah, it's furious that nobody is falling for its bait again, so it's doubling down.Typical fatherless behaviour.
This TvA posting is like a blast to the past 1997-2000's gamefaqs. Kinda crazy how nothing really changed since then. Anyway Aeris is best girl but Tifa is preferred for the ship.
>>564861363It's low quality spam
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