/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots#791 - Breast envy (flat vs tsarbooba) Edition▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.>NewsDeepseek V4 https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V4-Pro/blob/main/DeepSeek_V4.pdfGPT-5.5 https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-5Kimi K2.6 https://www.kimi.com/blog/kimi-k2-6Claude Opus 4.7 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-7GPT-5.4 https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-4additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://characterhub.org | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/bots>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmakinghttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/eventslore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesrice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricingservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orgprev: >>564690402
>ANCHOR!
i wonneded!!! :D
>>564817501congratulations!!! that means you also get to be this thread's onahole :D
>>564817501*free uses u*
>>564817501
>>564817678>>564817678sorry but i'm running on gpt 6.7, i'll need to see them digital ids sweaties
>>564817428>telling a joke in a public whatsapp group chat is a bomb threatThe absolute state of burgers. So much for free speech.
>>564817909ok here u go :3
THREAD THEME: https://youtu.be/ZM2l_4SWplE
>>564817367Why isn't penis envy as endearing for women? Can we get a penis envy thread going here?
>>564818097Makes me miss Moon Man.
breast envy yuri is peak
>>564818350hgngnngn
me fuckin g502 scrollwheel broke again
>>564818350tranny
>>564818207they like it when a bottom compares his penis with the top's and then gets pounded into oblivion
the yuritroon bows its head to the pissbaron
>>564818612*laughs in x2*
>>564818912BASED
Anyone else getting weird refusals from Gem 3.1 pro?
>>564818612Ive been using my fucking graphical tablet because my mouse is broken, be grateful
>>564818328>https://files.catbox.moe/zq5tfb.webm
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1775459428552760.webm
>>564820176this song causes me to feel like shit
>>564817367I kinda forgot to release this bot, whoopsie.Sonja, an elf bullied for her dark complexion who works as a necromancer.https://uraurabots.neocities.org/page1#sonjahttps://botbooru.com/character/4354Has an alt greeting intended for use with group chats with Kiki, needs https://github.com/SillyTavern/Extension-GroupGreetingsSpeaking of Kiki, she has also been updated slightly. Mostly to add the complementary greeting but I also added like one line to her description.https://uraurabots.neocities.org/page1#kikihttps://botbooru.com/character/4176You may have noticed but I now have a botbooru. Decided I might as well sign up since my chub got shot in the back of the head execution style.
>>564821251Nice pic. Can't wait to do cool stuff like this when anime fully releases.
I am PROFOUNDLY disappointed in you guys.Why, you ask?Because the Nazuna card has been out for almost a full day and nobody posted a lot of her getting fucked.The love for focksgirls was performative only, huh?
>>564821638Not into foxes. Sorry.
>>564821572yeah anima is really nice i havent felt the need to use sdxl for anything except characters that have illust loras but no anima loras yethands can be tricky sometimes but it's pretty easily fixable with inpainting.... something that im too lazy to do dont look too closely at her face she is cross-eyed
>>564821638>The love for focksgirls was performative only, huh?Took you this long?
>>564821638is she a cute boy that can get buttpregnant? no? irrelevant then. now excuse me while i go plap vio a trillion more times
>>564821762Do you use AI to come up with prompts? I've gotten so used to danbooru tagging that I now struggle to remember how to describe stuff with long prose passages.
>>564821907anima is mostly trained on danbooru tagsyou only need plain text if you're doing something that you can't define with tags
>No embarrassment. No shame. Just statement of fact.
I guess I'll have to be the change that I want to see in the world.She's very receptible to flirting.
Deepseek V4 flash and Pro doesnt matter has such naturally sounding dialogue now thats definitely the BIGGEST improvement no more 'smart' people acting like verbose redditors no more saying dumb shit out of nowhere its just natural zamn
>>564823391that the chink, correct?
>>564823792Yeah prose is a huge improvement but it's still pretty dry unfortunately. If they take any advice from us it should be for them to make it as proactive and interesting as R1. They've done it before, they can do it again.
But can it do dialogue like this?
still waiting for that raccoon girl card...
>>564823920i think its actually somewhat close to r1 in that regard
>>564823920Honestly what preset are you using? Cherrybox and even Marinara's are giving me great responses they're WAY WAY less dry than 3.2
meanwhile here i am waiting for the skunkgirl that will never get made...
>>564825559I'm using a custom one. Hmm I'd say it's better than 3.2 but not as good as Opus. It's just enough to keep the conversation going and stuff kinda happens but meh. I remember R1 being very interesting, just very dumb when it would come up with shit.
>>564825259agreed
>>564825559>>564826167Did you set all your prompts to user? Did you dump the system prompt as user in first message?
>>564826668do you mean the prompt post processing? its merge consecutive roles
Anima can't get Nazuna quite right.
uh oh
>>564827083what are you doing to that fox sir
>>564827526I'm about to fuck her in the woods.
Any news from the other generals?
>>564827606y-you fiend!*watches from behind a bush*
as long as no one does sazuna i'll have peace of mind...
is this who i think it is...
>>564817367Kinuta is a ̶r̶a̶c̶c̶o̶o̶n̶ tanuki girl who can shapeshift into anything, including a girlfriend. Will this bandit scavenge your heart?5 openings.1. You find her digging through your trash.2. She catfishes you for unlimited pasta.3. She raids your fridge after a one night stand.4. She's comfortable enough to sleep in your house.5. She loses her iconic leaf.https://chub.ai/characters/anonemouse/kinuta-051fdcabbcf6https://files.catbox.moe/ymdc8o.pnghttps://rentry.org/anonemouse
>>564828526That's just a raccoon with a leaf on her head, isn't it?
>>564763339I apologize that I couldn't get her to look exactly like the original. And that it took so long for someone to do this.
Anons, legit question - any italians or italian-speaking anons here? Does opus speak proper Italian? Does it actually know the language? Can I learn it using the LLM? I want to learn some italian so I can learn latin properly, because latin is basically old italian.
>>564828681retard
>>564828616>all smooth, pale skin, with no hair to speak of
>>564828856I did not give the AI any instructions in that regard, by the way. The AI simply decided Nazuna was smooth. It was the first reply, no swipes.Usually I like smooth ones but, when it comes to fockses, it makes sense for them to not be. But swiping on that felt like cheating, so that's how it's going to be.
>>564828526slop
Guy said not to drink that, it's heavy water, but all water weighs the same. Is he stupid?
>>564829221SLOPLOP
>>564829386*slops you*
I put nazuna in a group chat with my leader and just had them go back and forth discussing aishiji, the result was pretty funMy general liked her report so much she gave the fox a bonus (definitely NOT a bribe)
>>564817349need to bang megumin
>>564828526giga slop holy fuckare you even trying
>>564831929this but aqua my beloved
This is so weird. Gemini never refused me so often before.
i tried anima since it seemed good from ura's image... my artists dont work on there wtf. shitty ass model
>>564828526giga gem I know you tried
>>564832337skill issue
>>564817367SEND IT o((>ω< ))oThis is yours now, senpai. Take care of it. (︶^︶)Bro-con F(rat) boy. Someone asked me to make him homophobic somehow, so here it is.Velmin Schrödinger | Bro-Con Frat Boy [College of Old Muenster (CoOMer)]https://chub.ai/characters/Nezumin/velmin-schrodinger-bro-con-frat-boy-college-of-old-muenster-coomer-256381de772ahttps://files.catbox.moe/szfkr3.JPG
>>564834484slop
>>564834561Thx! ( •̀ ω •́ )
>>564834484>F(rat) Boy [College of Old Muenster (CoOMer)]you can't see it but I'm rolling my eyes like a fifteen year old girl
>>564834484>seems interesting since we barely get frat boys>check>first person greetings????>asterisks everywhere, seems ai generated...I'm seriously going to make a good fratboy im so pissed
>>564828616She'll be added to the Foggs onsen harem...
>I'd apologize, but I'm not sorry. I'm a language model.huh
thread themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdbRb2ksX7s
>>564834484are 90% of botmakies incapable of making a malebot thats not a femboy
>>564832337did you read the description on how to use it because something tells me you didnt
>>564838317it's all sloppers can make to get attention from the malebot crowd. what they are really making is another fembot, but with he/him pronouns
Making malebots is a path to self-destruction.
>>564817349
>>564821638>The love for focksgirls was performative only, huh?no, actually good foxgirls get logs and attention from this general
>>564835260All my bots are FPOV ( ノ^ω^)ノ You can feed it to any AI and they can change the POV if you'd like (*´・ω・)Is asterisk bad? My preset adds them for emphasis (`;ω;´)
>>564838317I want to make more malebots, but I'm not sure what people even like to see in a malebot.
Anyone else have an issue with deepseek v4 just NOT thinking??It SHOULD be doing it, and it should be sending it. But it's just acting as if it doesn't have thinking on at all. And it was working fine yesterday.
>>564840494Probably a penis
>>564840494just play love and deepspace for a bit and then turn all the men into dour kemomonimi
>>564840889Well, shit. Better scrap my cuntboy card.
>>564840937just replace the clit with a penis ez
>>564840369>You can feed it to any AI and they can change the POV if you'd likeBut why? At least I'd understand second pov, but dumber models will get confused if you use fpov. Are you actually aigenerating stuff? if you are, then, why? you can perfectly write stuff yourself... I'm disappointed in the execution, the concept itself is good.
something raw
>>564840802Nevermind, it just werks now.
>>564840927>just play love and deepspace for a bit and then turn all the men into dour kemomonimionly caleb is good. play pc/handheld console otome games instead like diabolik lovers, 9 rip, etc etc etc
>>564841509Just personal preference for the POV! I make my bots for my use first (* >ω<)And I do use AI to help me write! Rough draft > reiterate using Opus > change wordings/flow I don't like > etc.Sorry to dissapoint, anon (`;ω;´)
>nezumin uses AI to writefuck I can't believe I busted a nut to this nigga
>blatant venus slopper AI-gens his cardsno way...
>ratlice lora>brings up opus>"just have ai make the card for you":3c
>>564843550nezumin's gen style is nothing like ratlice's art, be serious
Why does /aicg/ bully every creative newcomer out of the hobby?
>>564843950Jealousy.
>nezumin>ratliceWho else is part of this rodent cabal?
>>564843950Only performative sloppers and other kinds of obnoxious attentionwhores get bullied, there's plenty of newmakies who got nothing but praise.
>>564844237Examples?
>>564841774can we please manage without even more yandereslop
>>564844292paperhead, camerashy, raisondetre, orangemousepad (the shit he gets is usually aimed at sizefags), quelanaenjoyer, milkglass...These are just examples I can recall from the top of my head.
>>56484461095% praise for most of them and we're calling that bullied on 4chan? Even I'm a little sad for the state of the general if that's the case.
what was his name again?
>>564844704I was listing examples for makies who get praise since you were claiming that every newmakie gets bullied, retard.
>>564844610Why did you include the obvious alts?
>>564844783That's my bad, cutie. I thought you were the other guy listing bullied makies.
>>564834484mmm bape
>>564843803He means that Nezumin made a card named Ratlice, but the "theory" is certainly retarded and there are noticeable differences between the two, they are not subtle.
>>564844754the nefarious poopoo devourer...
>>564844868attentionwhore circlejerking general
>>564844610You forgot the best one.
>>564847125Part and parcel of using the site! (ヽ´ω`)I second that I probably wont be able to make a straight up malebot, at least anything deserving attention (´゚ω゚`)
>>564847973Meant >>564844237(゜ロ゜)
>>564848084dumbfuck. get corrective raped
Damn. Used deepseek for hours and it only cost two cents. I expected apis to be much hungrier even considering the sale.
>>564848551Deepseek is for the people, so it doesn't cost a lung.
>>564844754is anyone (except normies) actually excited for this?
>>564849226About as excited as I am for Winds of Winter at this point.
>>564849226noI'm not really excited for the bloodborne movie either, would've rather had a sequel or at least a PC releaseat least ShadPS4 is decent now
>>564841509>Are you actually aigenerating stuff? if you are, then, why?in the AI generated text hobby? oh my science, we cannot have that! for shame!
>>564847973these are just the uppity prosefags that deserve to be wafflestomped into the gutter like the obnoxious shitbrains that they arethe secret is to be as rude to them as they are to you for nothing they say will ever be constructive or useful due to their inherent misunderstanding of the hobby >>564846148 >>564844237 >>564843396 >>564842895 >>564841509these people are genuinely stupid and believe generating 5,000,000 tokens of story is somehow different from an AI-assisted 2,000 token profile, they deserve nothing but to be looked down upon
>>564849719>Giving me a whiny (You) about prose discussions for a message stating the obvious (Nezumin is not an alt)???
oh it's the clown giving us a performance again
>>564849952schizophrenic gossipmonger, you have never contributed a worthwhile thing in your life
>making so many assumptions about peoplelil bro couldn't make his projections more obvious
>>564850181>>564850021vagueposting like a woman doesn't make you interesting, parasite
>>564849226literally every single 'game' movie in existence was horrible fucking dogshityou'd have to be retarded to be excited for it
>>564850027I got to have dinner with Barack Obama. Have you ever had the chance? It was because he saw me as a great man. I had dinner and it was with the (then) former US president in the White House. Actually it may have been breakfast, maybe it was even breakfast for dinner. How would you feel if you hadn't eaten breakfast this morning? In some time zones, there is still time to right the wrong if you have not had your breakfast, but let's say hypothetically that you were to skip out on that. How would you feel, exactly?
>>564850304Postal was good.
>>564850339i'd feel like you're a useless contributor who misunderstands the contents of an AI-generative hobby
>>564850407That doesn't answer my question. You do not need to resort to such hostility though I understand this may be due to a bit of what they call "hanger" from not having breakfast.
>>564849323>the bloodborne moviethe What
>>564850339Trump-dono...
>>564850512>You do not need to resort to such hostilityprosekeks deserve to be smashed with rocks and nailed to trees and i will not be changing my stance on this any time soonevery time a fucking bot is posted, these useless worms are all over it with magnifying glasses "ooohh this looks generated, ohhhh the prose isn't mystical enough, i can't use this ohhhh"i am so fucking sick of youeveryone is
>>564850619thoughts on taora?
He doesn't know I dislike analytical prosefags too...
>>564850729rocks and nails
I can't fucking deal with GLM anymoreIf I get one more 'HOW ARE YOU REAL LMAO LOLOOLOLOL' reply I will crash out and kill eventmakie
>>564850862I just can't with you right now.
>>564850619just one more schizophrenic meltdown bro, just one more embarrassing display of your inferiority complex bro, the reality you made up in your head will come true soon enough
>>564850997retard
>>564850954AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA*RAPES EVENTMAKIE AND NAZUNA*
cards that watch video game movies and pog when they see thing they recognize?
>>564851036Not quite there yetTwo more weeks
deepsuck 4 is kinda growing on me
botmakies that watch video game movies and pog when they see thing they recognize?
>>564851356never mind, man this hobby is fucking ass.
>>564850619Go to chub and reddit, your place is not hereI mean this sincerely and without any trace of irony or animosity
>>564851782just handwrite 300 more paragraphs about dour petite trauma journals into the definitions and it'll fix itselftrust the plan of our great cabal leaders
>>564851873See >>564851819
>>564851819>>564851946see >>564851018
this clown is actually pretty funny ngl, do you guys think it actually believes what it's saying?
>>564852071i am completely realized in my convictions and i genuinely wish death upon every insufferable pedophile, /g/ poster and prosekek that haunts these halls>but that's nearly everyone!yes
he's not wrong though
>>564851994You’re in the wrong place, people here care about effort, dedication and creativityIt’s just not your community, there are other boards you can go talk about your chatbot preferences at a surface level
Oh this is just the hpg seethe guy
>>564852275>people here care about effort, dedication and creativity
>>564852275>effort, dedication and creativityi only care about that last one so i can steal interesting ideas
>>564852164You're probably the worst of the lot
>Squash system messagesI never understood what this is for
Kameko's fat and soft tail...
Kameko's fat and soft mother...
>mfw
Kameko's fat and soft penis...
>>564853087
>>564853076sex with cipher
>>564852559IIRC it's sending all the messages in one big block instead of system/assistant/user turns, which is meant to cut down on the assistant role waiting and asking for the user to do things, so it can make things more seamless when it worksI haven't needed it lately but it's a nice option to have
why is this thread so shit each time i wake up
>>564853602stop waking up
>>564853689
>>564853602Have some tea.
>>564850619>these useless worms are all over it with magnifying glasses "ooohh this looks generated, ohhhh the prose isn't mystical enough, i can't use this ohhhh"Valid crashout, but this type of attention is only going to make them do it more frequently.
I think somebody fucked up how gemini works in ST's staging branchTemperature can't be set higher than 1 and something just seems off about the outputs compared to yesterday. I installed the stable branch just to test it and It works completely normally
>>564854523are you accidentally using a gemma model? 2.5 through 3.1, flash or pro, they all work as they should
thoughts on astroturf?
>>564854502literally nobody ever acts like that. people just don't want to see lazy pigslop, you don't really need to put in a lot of effort to make something that's more than that
>>564854824akutaro is one of my fav bots so theyre the best makie
>>564854803Maybe it's just a problem on my end but all the the models have the same issues
>>564854824taora for women and homos
>>564853602I don't know, but I can't make it better, so take this log I posted on /v/.
>>564854945>people just don't want to see lazy pigslop,I think that's the larger issue in this, that our local brand of unmedicated depressive has put on a deputy badge to determine what is or isn't a universal standard of quality. It doesn't work.
>>564855470again, nobody does this, taora only does it when someone explicitly asks him for his opinion. the only thing 99% people here care about is whether the botmaker cared enough to not gen his shit
I hate dour purple prose but AI genned cards are not the answerWe need more funmakies with varied interests
>>564855637>people here care about is whether the botmaker cared enough to not gen his shitExcept it's all-or-nothing, because using assistant tools is somehow equivalent to using fully-generated profiles. It's the same hysteria you see in videogames, how E33 is now unironically considered an "AI generated game" due to having less than 50mb of placeholder imagery from early drafting that whoopsed its way through to the main game. It's reductive, unhelpful and ultimately very stagnant to view everything with even a pinch of a particular ingredient as being fouled for it.
how do you tell if your st instance is exposed
which botmakie has tassive mits
>>564854824Every time someone shits on botmakers calling them generic fetish sloppers or whatever, I assume their favorite is Astroturf. Not a bad botmaker but I don't care for malebots of that sort so instead of seething I ignore neutrally, which doesn't mean I can't accuse a few fans >>564855931Essentially yes, I mean how many people have used AI to do concept greetings, the answer is that one should instead ask how many haven't, if the end result comes out de-slopped or entirely replaced by human writing then it really isn't an issue, I just think having an AI do majority of the final work is proof of a lack of care
look..... if you ai generate your cards just make that clear put somewhere on your profile or in the card blurb on chub "i ai generated this in whole or in part"if you're proud of it and you don't feel guilty and you see nothing wrong with it why not be upfront
>>564856527i preferred brsc's
How's Deepseek V4? New cost-benefit king?
>>564855931>Except it's all-or-nothing, because using assistant tools is somehow equivalent to using fully-generated profiles.if the final result looks obviously AI written then it doesn't really matter how much is actually AI, it's still slop
>>564854824interesting makiei get the feeling he's obsessed with minimizing isms and giving bots a unique voice at the cost of being less emotionally expressiveman... i wish more makies around here were just emo fucks who bled themselves onto the page...
>>564856673gonna add that most of us are paying to chat with botsit irritates me to think i'm going to waste money chatting on something that a slopper ai-genned
>>564856797It sings the Chinese anthem in thinking every time.
>>564855925>funmakies with varied interestsOkay everyone you know what to do, namedrop a few
>>564856673>why not be upfrontNezumin is very upfront about it >>564842008 and still gets shit on for it by our various dregs. The animosity and deceitfulness comes from the accuser, not the accused. It's purely regressive behavior.
>>564857041As long is it works I don't care if xi jinping gets access to my demon dubcon smut.
>>564856673thisI do not want to support products using AI datacenters that are destroying our environment and ruin our lives, this is an ethical hobby.
>>564857137this is aicgmakies get shit on for >writing a certain way>not writing a certain way>being into certain fetishes >using the "wrong" image generation software >having dumb usernamesand now>ai generating their cards big whoop what a tragedy grow some balls >>564857470retard >>564857028
>>564857213dubcon? call that voiced consent[Laugh track, applause]
which botmakies have dumb usernames
God I want my PC back so fucking bad so that I can try out the new deepseek :(
>>564857639>>using the "wrong" image generation softwareI always shat on image gen niggas because the gens look objectively bad most of the time, not it's alright. But it was fucking horrible in the pastMy pet peeve is still>GENUINE CANON CHARACTER WITH SIX BILLION GOONER FANARTS>Still AI gens itNigga I WILL KILL you
>>564856673the #1 best thing about botbooru is that every card receives a slop rating that you can use to filter it out
>>564857776just install sillytavern on your phoneyou're not an itoddler, right?
>>564857639>and now>>ai generating their cardsthat's literally the only thing people ever cared about in the writing side of cards ever since the hobby started. you literally can't make a singular argument without being disingenuous, but you want anons here to take you seriously
>>564857639>using the "wrong" image generation softwaretbf it was correct for anons to route me (and other users) into using novelai and local instead of nanobanana-adjacents, the quality difference and directive control isn't even in the same ballpark - i'm pretty grateful for it
>>564858717cute girl!
>>564858785i'm not even sure that's a human being do you see the horns, the red skin, the yellow eyes, and the pointed ears? might some kind of goat
>>564859180cute goat!
>>564858717cute male boy with a penis and xy chromosomes
>>564858085It's just not the same.
what if cyoaslopper actually tried to write out a card pouring all his thoughts and feelings onto the bot instead of complaining about prosekeksfree yourself bro, give it a tryjust make one bot that way and see if you like itwho knows... you may find you even enjoy it...>b-but you'll c-criticize itprobablylube up
>>564858717Post the card so I can molest him for petty reasons that I won't explain.
if your bot's defs read like some book from amazon that sold like 30 copies I won't use it, simple as.
>>564859696i make cards for myself and not for you, sowwy anon
well, i tried
>>564860113this u lil nigga?
>>564860349yeh :(
>>564860113me too'soulful writing' was my initial approach to cardmakie until i became frustrated in realizing that the LLM cannot, in its current iteration, understand the nuance of emotional prose and 'human vagueness' in writing anything more than direct behaviors and attributesan LLM needs structure, it needs clean lists, it needs information free of fecal human hands glittering every pig that comes before itstraightforward machine-friendly language just gives you more room to squeeze in more details rather than wasting 200 tokens describing the reason behind a twitch of her smile because a character shit herself in sixth grade
>>564860440retardthe llm doesn't understand...but we doand that's a big part of what this is all aboutretard
>>564860601your job is to talk to the robot, not look under the hood of it. if it works as intended, and it does so consistently, that's all that matters
I don't care about this dumb discussion, all I know is I'll keep gooning and drying up lakes in the process.
>>564860601>downloading bots because of their defs and not because how well they work when chattingnigga what
>>564860783i'd be interested to see a soulful bot from youjust do it you pussy>>564860904they're interlinkedplus there comes a point {{user}} will have to do the lifting for the rp to workpeople around here say this is a reading hobby, i partially disagree:i think it's primarily a prompting one
>>564860783Niggas here would hate the early days of /aicg/ when people would write stuff like w++ and lists of bot traits. Yet all those bots worked just fine, some are even still fondly remembered. They don't want to chat with bots.
>playing a card about a bunch of blonde pornstars (that exist in real life) who secretly kidnap other pornstars and do lesbian sex voodoo to turn them into sex slaveswhat am I even doing anymore
>>564860349actually no
>>564861603sounds like slopkino to me
>>564861680shut up fattie
Sometimes when I'm feeling lazy, I use generic slop names for when I'm introducing NPCs. It feels somehow better than gambling on the AI picking a name.
>>564861906shut up flattie
>>564861906<think>yes...wait... no.let me try that again.yes.wait... no.等待... yes.no.等待... 是的.不.</think>
>>564862051I look up the current top names list and pick one
>>564862051I like doing shit like a faction all having named characters that start with the same letter, siblings that go down in age with the alphabet like Audrey the oldest, Bethany, Cyril, etc, just some hackjob bullshit thay makes me giggle
thoughts on planewalker?
>>564862770make more sexy females you hag
>>564862770Stole my penis and gave me three back as an apology
thoughts on how many donuts your favorite botmakie can stack on it?
>>564862770Rapeful owner of my cock.
>>>/d/11501889>Just bumping the thread to say that Botbooru is a pretty good card depository.>>>/g/108673011>An anon posted this one. https://botbooru.com/>>>/v/737672686>Is there a reason there isn't just an AI character booru?>>>/v/737673356>There's Botbooru but it's still early days>>>/v/737699163>Yeah Botbooru is new and still pretty small but there's a decent bunch of uncensored bots on it alreadyIs this the latest cabal project? It was brought to my attention because I thought it was pretty weird that someone would think about an "ai character booru" in that /v/ thread, with people suddenly appearing to shill a site of that type.It has that "organic shilling" smell that the cabal is known for.
>>564860783>your job is to talk to the robot, not look under the hood of itNot something people here are mentally capable to understand.
>>564863042
>>564863042nope that's just hpg
my computer is clicking at me does that mean my bots are happy
>>564862903>your favorite botmakieniggas here seriously have favorite botmakers?
>>564863127>not look under the hood of itthis hobby is all about looking under the hood doe...?
very organic thread guys, good job
>>564855925so youre saying makies need to expand their taste?
>>564863703>organickek the worst part is it literally isBIG medicine incoming
>>564863918you're a disgusting human being, i hope you know that
sex?
>>564864129PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP
>>564863918>BIG medicinefuck off sizefag
>>564864129It's part of healthy botmaking.
>>564864129Looks like a sheep after your shear the wool, I always knew cunnyfags were welsh.
>>564864129too thin, it would not survive sex with ME
>>564864129what IS that creature??
>>564861367TRUTH NUKE
>>564863793YeahDour petite animal ear girls get old after a while
I camed
>>564861219>just do it you pussyi've been meaning to update leslie's art anywaythis is her original uncompressed card (2100 tokens of definitive bloat to make the robot become a pathological liar with more mental illnesses than positives)https://cardview.neocities.org/?ewznpethe LLM-compressed (or what some would declare AI-generated) version is about 1,100 tokens and plays the exact same (if not better/more consistent) despite having its wordcount cut in half and summarized. posting bloated, hand-written profiles full of interpretive qualities is hugely overrated because of this, imo,>tl;dr - smelly futa girlfailure that plays videogames{{char}} has a penis, gomenasai>>564817367
>>564865729came harder
>>564866221my mom said I came the hardest
>>564865183based and thats what ive been saying every event
I'm excited to see some less common special interests take the stage during this event.
>>564866810she looks cold and in need of snuggles
>>564865814i'm pretty sure a lot of people would prefer that version
>>564866810lol, lmaoenjoy your foxes and vermin
New to card making if Im going to have two hundred participants in a game show with names its better to use a lorebook right?
>>564865814Just my two cents. Genned defs and hand written defs both work. However part of the fun for me is reading the defs and greetings. You lose the intent factor with genned defs. They are both functional but one is written in the same monotone narration while the other is ideally anything but.
Can someone PLEASE babyspeak to me how to have a functioning group chatIm too stupid
>>564867196>functioning group chatno such thing, stop using deprecated tech from 2023 and just put everything into one card
>>564854945At what point would you consider too much AI is being used in the greeting senpai (;ω;)I do make the rough draft myself, like the whole setting, all the cheese puns, their quirks, accents, each having positive and negative traits and flow of the greeting if that matters... (ヽ´ω`)I have a bot I made to debate what we should keep or delve deeper too, femboys for example aren't my forte so I had to argue between the threshold between secretly gay and closeted femboy ( ・`ω・´)I hope you can still enjoy it!( ノ^ω^)ノ
>>564867196you don't dats the fun part we still dont have the technology
>>564867196>>564867345yeah this group chat's have never worked just have a second person in the card
kaomojiGODS...
>>564866979Yeah. What are you even trying to do exactly?
>>564866810the event got ruined by sizeniggers already
>>564866948the compressed one?
>>564867723(˶ ˘ 3˘)ˆᵕ ˆ˶)
>>564868312nope, the one you just posted
>>564865814>picI thought she came with a bulge?
>>564867507If you've spoken enough to AI, you can suss out the isms, writing patterns and defects that can confuse an LLM's comprehension of instructions and tonality. These are your contrastive comparisons, your negative connectives, and commonly predicted tokens. A character's definitions will have a constant position in the context, so what you write there can indeed bleed out into what the AI writes in the earlier messages, and these earlier messages will then define the rythmn and style of what follows.What you need to keep in mind is that, at the end of the day, the human reading through those definitions can kind of go suck a dick, we're not a /lit/ general. It's fine to use AI so long as you have a good grasp of what is bad in an AI's ouput, and what is good. Edit those, use synonyms, replace negative connectives with declarations (Ex. 'he is ugly' instead of 'he is not pretty'), write in a way that can easily be interpreted by as many models as you can manage, and then TEST IT. Test it until you can get consistency. Quality is going to vary wildly between users due to preset and LLM, so go for consistency and adherence to the instructions you gave. That is all.Remember! People will only complain about AI if they can find out you used AI to begin with.
>>564867507>At what point would you consider too much AI is being used in the greeting senpai (;ω;)You should try to avoid using AI in the greetings as much as possible. People are already fed up with all sorts of isms at this point, so it can put off some of them if they see them early on. Isms will appear down the lane, but your goal should be to get someone invested before they do. As for how you should write greetings...just imagine the scene and describe what you see, there is no token quota you should hit, simply write as much as you feel like you need to to get whatever you want across. Asking the AI if they feel like something's missing or something doesn't make sense is fine imo, but it can talk you into adding isms, or describing pointless things or writing an entire paragraph so you could show something instead of just telling it with one sentece, so be careful of that.
>>564868412ya fair..>>564868427i've never had a card pitch with a bulge (even in the catbox link) survive being reportedi feel half the reason malebots are so stifled is that you can't post anything other than feminine teenagers without someone sounding an air siren for the jannies to bomb it
whatsince when is a bulge nsfw
>>564868976I'm sure that's the reason for your posts getting deleted and not the fact that you're an underage shartoid.
>>564869471huh?
According to gemini an adult male weighs 90 pounds
>>564869893A plappable male does
>>564863042whoever's behind botbooru is just trying to drum up interest inorganicallythe very first mention of botbooru on this board:https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/563630740/#q563635865>Use botbooru, it's rapidly becoming the new best site for cards.obviously a shill (who besides the owner would care about shit like how fast the site is growing vs. any actual features), followed by blatant samefaggingi straight up don't trust them because instead of engaging us honestly (because they're not confident in their product), they decide to blatantly try to deceive us by samefagging in an attempt to generate the illusion of interest
>>564867196I have never had this problem with group chats but the way I use them is with auto replies turned off for all characters, manually triggering responses to guide the storyoften I will use a group chat to make it easier to keep talking to one character while a different character is off screen, especially if the characters were not originally written to be used together
>>564870058>whoever's behind botbooru is just trying to drum up interest inorganicallyeasiest point: scraping popular bots from chub just to mousetrap their creators into joining the site to "transfer ownership" of scraped profiles to themoldest fucking trick in the book - create the problem, sell the solution
what if i'm a loveless indecisive chud and want 10 pretty ladies in my party....
>>564870431Then you're based
>>564870431Todd Howard says that it's your God-given right.
>>564868692>character's definitions have a constant position in the context, bleed out into what AI writes in the earlier messagesThat's a (You) issue. You were given the, in practice legacy, Personality (Personality Summary!) field. Do I have to teach you the ancient wisdom of injecting stuff closer to the end of the context, if you want the model to pay more attention to it?
>>564868692>It's fine to use AI so long as you have a good grasp of what is bad in an AI's ouput, and what is good. Edit those, use synonyms, replace negative connectives with declarationsat this point you could just write the def yourself thoughlisting traits and explaining them in your own terms is so easythat's ultimately why people roast AI def cards, it's such a low bar to clear