Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!/sthg/ #9306 - Damsel in Distress Edition==NEWS==>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversaryhttps://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027https://x.com/SonicMovie==Comic Release Dates==DC x Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #2 - 03 June 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #87 - 17 June 2026Sonic the Hedgehog: 35th Anniversary Special - 08 July 2026Sonic the Hedgehog x Godzilla #1 - 15 July 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #88 - 22 July 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 05 August 2026==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==https://rentry.org/sthglinks>Milestone pastebin:https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet>Perfect System Collection:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection>Sonic comic scans:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics>Sonic shows:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows>SAGEhttps://sagexpo.org/>SHChttps://shc.zone/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4r>/sthg/ booru:https://sthg.booru.org/>/sthg/ CyTube:https://cytube/r/sthg>/sthg/ Pixel World:https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthgPrevious Zone: >>566356290
They Sonic Boom'd Star Fox
Anita Sarkeesian is a blazefag.
Background OCs should be band because the IDW writers use them to sneak in shitty headcanons like Blaze's father OC
Blaze the Cute!
>>566410109Noooo that's supposed to be Blaze, she's Sonic wife not that ugly stalker
IMO (in my opinion) Blaze should have two additional rows of nipples.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlyH80dDfAo
>>566410250Yes, I think they should be a band too.
>>566410109>ugly jew OP
>>566410286Blaze is a damsel in distress now? How pathetic.
*headpats your OC*
>>566410174You mean Sonic 06'd it
If "it appears my superiority has led to some controversy" was a character
>>566410423Blaze actually looks almost as hot as Honey.
>>566410174more like sonic movie 1 and unlike Sega, Nintendo doesn't acknowledge when they make a mistake so don't expect them to delay the game to fix the designs
>>566410404AGP fuel
>>566410701I'd say they're pretty on par with one another
>>566410632Superiority to who? are you telling us she's better than other characters to prove she's good?
>>566410798Flabby asses don’t look very good in thigh highs.
>>566410854
>>566410174The very first game, before you were born. And it was good.
dirty arab again forgot to put fries in my kebab
Sonic is the coolest strongest fastest best smartest guy ever
>>566411020Actually it released about 7 days after I was born, so take that
>>566411020That shit looked bad back then and it looks bad now
>>566410250That's not Blaze's father, that's her little brother. Blaze has 16 older siblings and 2 younger siblings.
>>566410868Better than Amy "Poochie" Rose, of course.No need to prove she's good, she's the only mainline female to have good gameplay or organic popularity!
>Anita SarkeesianMan, the OP must be ancient to bring that name up, haven't heard of her in a decade.
>>566411347trvth nuke
Douge
Cream the Rabbit.
>>566410868Superior to all others. Loves and listens to them anyway.That's divine grace. Blaze is a goddess.
>>566410250>ESL japnic worshippers furiously scan the background scenes of IDW, the comic they claim to hate, looking for tiny colored blobs to get upset about
>>566410541Surge would go hit up the rich neighborhoods and use Kit as a distraction while she swipes all the candy.https://youtu.be/McPuRa_lAiY?si=Ttzw8Ohg2qL9cMqg
Elegant! Graceful!
>>566411032>whisper says as she waddles her way back to the booth and stuffs her face full of a double bacon whooper
Blaze the Cat didn't earn a single original trait, she stole them all: Shoes (Sonic), sidekick (Tails), mirror rival dynamic (Shadow), love interest role (Amy), Cream as a sidekick (Amy again, because once wasn't enough), guardian duty (Knuckles), bullied childhood backstory (Tails), game ending double super fight (Shadow), jumping technique (Espio), play style (Sonic), kicking technique (Rouge), fire powers (Knuckles), being a purple cat (Big), polite speaking manner (Vanilla), princess title (Sally Acorn), alternate version of a blue hero (Scourge), shy with a temper (Knuckles), not very social (Shadow), talks to the emeralds (Tikal), coat design (Eggman), fire jets in shoes (Shadow), Is there anything original about her? anything?
>>566411773Blazeful!
>>566408276>Despite being the most famous hedgehog in his own time, Sonic never became a legend that inspired hope during times of strife after he is gone.06 is a funny game.
>>566411508Post the one where she's standing straight up from the side with her huge ass sticking out
>>566411538Even though the comic is worse rendered than archie.
>>566410472Would you have a spaghetti dinner with one of them?
>>566411447Ger involvement with Devolver Digital as a consultant has resurfaced and people are boycotting a game. So she's the subject of metacontroversy where leftists are pretending it doesn't matter and they don't have to do politics because they agree with her completely. So just GamerGate again, really.
>>566411828>only sonic can wear shoes>only sonic can have a sidekickAlright you're just fucking around
>>566410174What's the Star Fox 64 of Sonic?
another comic
>>566410250Or, is just a harmless OC not related to Blaze. Not all cats are related, Big is not Blaze second cousin.
>>566411828
>>566412060SA2
>>56641183806 is a game where what it does is accidental, instead of intentional
>>566411829UPDATE THE LEXICONS!
If the Sonic manga are in character then it's ic for Sonic to throw a hissyfit after jobbing
>>566412015Sounds like terminal online material, because I haven't heard of any of this and, frankly, I can't care enough about it.
>>566411828Blaze has a cool house.
>>566411912that sounds like a grand time, I love spaghetti
>>566411828Doesn't this describe Silver as well? At the end of the day your favorite character is just a collection of tropes done elsewhere, incluiding in the same series he's part of.
>>566411828And as we all know, Sonic the Hedgehog is a franchise that is completely and totally original on all counts
>>566412124>Defending IDWshit
>>566412504>e-girl
>>566412334She stole that, Sonic lived in a house first! What a little thief!
>>566412650>Getting angry over some background character drawn to fill the spaceNever change, buddy.
>>566412289It's just leftists being dishonest/ unritical misandrists again so you're not missing much.
>>566412504WTF BLAZE DRINKS COFFEE NOW?how fucking performative
>>566412706>men live like this and dont see a problem
I'm getting reminded of an Amy fan who calls Blaze a Mary sue with these comments just because people like Blaze more than Amy.
the general has been extra schizophrenic the past day
>>566412045/sthg/ is full of pathetic autists that scream into to the crowd of fans hoping to convince others of their schizo delusions about a character they hate. These people see Sonic having friends and connections with them (through the personalities, designs, abilities, etc) as a problem instead of the very things that make this franchise worth paying attention to.
background designs is how we got our wolf guy, they’re greatwe need more wolves
Look at this little BITCH celebrating Christmas. Doesn't she know the romans did it first?
>>566411828you forgot to mention being racist (Fang)
>>566413000Schools out for the weekend. I assume it’ll get worse when summer vacation will roll around.
>>566413004You are, of course, not telling me anything I don't already know, but part of me wishes I could show them how fucking retarded they are. It's a fool's errand!
>game good>woman helped make game? game bad now
>similar traits badthe average shonen anime would mindfuck you since they just fill out the entire supporting cast with (literally) hundreds of foils of the most important characters
She swims. Wow. Never FUCKIN seen that one before. What an unoriginal cunt
>>566413317yep that's it you've cracked the code on how rightwingers thinknever introspect or reflect on why you keep losing just keep doubling down
>>566413438I wish I was Mobian…
>>566413390Sonic fans don't know how to read, like the typical shonenbro.
>>566413591>don't hold a woman accountable for what she did a decade ago>but hold a man accountable for what he (allegedly) did over decades agoHuh?
>>566413591That's right, lash out so we can put you down like the cornered animal you are. We are going to take everything from you. Fucking freak.
>PoliticsUnless they are related to Sonic, keep them out of here, please.
>>566413591are you going to commit suicide when they start hunting down trannies?
>>566411020Why does the stupid frog have feathers instead of fur? It looks slimy too
>>566413390I remember when the "big 3" was a thing...
>make amy playable in sonic cd>blaze is entirely pointless
>>566412932>>566412706>nice patio>indoor and outdoor plants>pet fish>car plane dinosaur autism containment box>memorabilia of friends>sound system>Bible next to laptopSonic lives pretty well
>>566413985Why would you play as Blaze in Sonic CD? Silly, anon.
>>566413796>Saying this in the most leftist franchise fighting technofascist powers and saving the environmentOkay
>>566413985Blaze isn't playable in that game though
>Facial ExpressionsGod. Who the fuck does Blaze think she is
>>566414112>leftists>environmentalismlol
>make amy playable in sonic cd>blaze out of nowhere >about a classic game no less>instead of being happy that amy is playableyou need therapy, anon
>>566414130What a dirty thief
uh oh rightoid melty
>>566412706>people still think this is sonic's actual house.
>>566414336That's a funny way to spell 'troon melty'
>>566413697>>566413751>>566413841What happened, what I miss? Did someone get banned?
Autistic comparison timeSonic = LupinSonic = GokuSonic = LuffyAmy = ChichiAmy = BulmaSally = BulmaSally = MisatoKnuckles = PiccoloTails = MidoriyaTails = GohanShadow = Adult Sasuke Lanolin = Tsunade Rouge = Fujiko ManeRouge = BulmaJewel/Belle/Soleil = PomniJet = VegetaWave = BulmaStorm = JugoScourge = Keyaru
Vanilla is going to ground you faggots if you don't behave.
>>566414602I’m being good
>>566413390And most of em usually are forgettable and/or suck. Bleach is particularly bad about it. Most of the soul society 13 court guard squads don't do anything but exist.
>>566414574I think someone was defending a hook-nosed misandrist and either deleted their post or got owned
Why are Blazefags falseflagging Amy out of nowhere?
>>566414869Probably deleted. Janitors don't really moderate this place unless someone spams gore
>>566414576>Sonic = LupinNo.>Sonic = GokuYes.>Sonic = LuffyYes.>Amy = ChichiYes.>Amy = BulmaNo.>Sally = BulmaYes.>Sally = MisatoYes.>Knuckles = PiccoloNo.>Tails = MidoriyaNo.>Tails = GohanYes.>Shadow = Adult SasukeYes.>Lanolin = TsunadeYes.>Rouge = Fujiko ManeYes.>Rouge = BulmaYes.>Jewel/Belle/Soleil = PomniI don't know that one.>Jet = VegetaNo.>Wave = BulmaNo.>Storm = JugoYes.>Scourge = KeyaruNo.
>>566414995It's very out of left field considering Blazefags are fond of Amy
>>566415054What makes Sonic Goku or Amy Chichi outside of Sonic turning SuperSonic and Amy being his love interest from when they were smol.
>>566414995Anons are making fun of that retard who said making Amy playable in CD invalidates Blaze. Boy I hope you're not that retard but you do have the confusion and inability to read a thread by yourself down.
>>566415054This is correct but I feel strongly about Scourge as Keyaru
>>566414995I only mentioned one person being jealous of Blaze's popularity, it's just one person.
>>566413390If you think any shounen ankme is good you need to get some taste.
/sthg/ if people can go one thread without bringing up unrelated politics
>>566415160Because Sonic waku wakus and does whatever he wants and Amy is an aggressive nag who's main priority is romance. They don't have the same relationship as Goku and Chichi though, since they will never be a couple.
>>566415086Depends on whether they are Sonazefags or not since they see Amy as "hogging Sonic for her self" and "being a pest".I remember having conbos on here where Blazefags would remove Amy and replace her with Blaze in scenarios or downplay and try to erase their friendship in the games.Which sucks because I think they bounce off eachother well.
>>566415371So if Robotinik was killing animals, but you wanted to be apolitical, you would support dead animals
>>566415476I'm on Robotnik's side and it's only political if it's something I dislike so yes
Let the writer of Naruto work on Sonic. He is so creative>Here is Naruto>here is naruto if he was depressed>here's naruto if he couldn't use super powers >here's naruto if he had a dog>here's naruto if he was dead and had orange hair>here's naruto if he was dead and had blonde hair>here's naruto except he's from the ancient past and had brown hair>here's naruto except he's the first president>here's naruto except he's an old pervert>here's naruto except he's a guy that looks and sounds like a grown woman but is actually a middle school aged boy>here's naruto except he's a psychotic harry potter>here's naruto if he was naruto's son>here's sasuke except he's a lazy teacher>here's sasuke except he's a snake pedophile>here's sasuke except he's the snake pedophile's son>here's sasuke except he's a slave >here's sasuke except he's a warlord>here's sasuke except he likes drawingHe's a perfect fit for Sonic
>>566415337It's entertaiment for children. Sometimes you just have to close your mind because it is bound to annoy you. Just like Sonic.
>>566415217Not your boogeyman....>>566415416>Amy is an aggressive nagSince when is Amy a nag?
>>566415537This reminds me of someone asking for Horikoshi to work on Sonic. Why would he? Licenced materials are for lesser artists who don't get paid enough compared with original artists.
>>566411347>boostshit>goodJump off a bridge
>>566415416>They don't have the same relationship as Goku and Chichi though, since they will never be a couple.2027 will prove you wrong
>>566415537This is actually the correct way to make supporting characters
>>566415650>Since when is Amy a nag?Sonic X. Pretty much all she does is nag.
>>566415806Sparky...
>>566415535I bit people like you when I was in school
>>566415728Go ahead and try to beat Rush/Rush Adventure by only holding boost, I dare you, you stupid nigger
Shitaze is pointless
>>566415537>Anon discovers extroverted people and introverted people
I love the whiteboard, anon!https://magma.com/d/B9ypYpjfZ5 https://magma.com/d/B9ypYpjfZ5 https://magma.com/d/B9ypYpjfZ5
>>566415831Example?
>>566415416I think the difference between GokuxChichi and SonicxAmy is that Goku is stupid enough to get argued into a marriage obligation while Sonic isn't
Cat!
>>566415889I'm telling the teacher and going to pretend to cry so they side with me
>>566415980You know that most of those characters just straight up look like each other and are spelled out as obvious counterparts right
>>566415447If you're talking about like 3 or 4 years ago, some of that was probably me. Sorry about that.
>Amy is in a bunch of fan games now>need to make this about Blaze somehow
Amy and Blaze are friends! FRIENDS!No more falseflagging!
Character redundancy is a problem because this shitbucket franchise can't balance characters with overlapping traits
Game about Sally, Lanolin, Rebel Rouge, Sonia, and Blaze
Sonic girls are LESBIANS. No more men~! Only girls being girls <3
>>566416301You know who else is in a bunch of fan games?
>>566416316No, its because its a videogame, not an anime. Whatsmore is its a videogame about an unorthodox main character. Characters like Sonic don't usually get a million shitty friends we expect to be around him constantly. He's like a cowboy in a western or a Ronin samurai.
>>566416314this. together they are amaze(ing)
>>566416551I wish your mom wad a lesbian so you'd never have been born.
>>566416636Honey?
>>566413751You cocksuckers couldn't even cancel jimmy kimmel
>>566410109Reminder: Metaphor flopped
>>566416272Huh....yeah about 3-4 years ago.Apology accepted. Sorry if there was any bad blood sent in retaliation.what was that all about anyway?
>>566416765What is surrogacy
Crazy how this whole "character bloat" thing doesn't exist in media aimed at adults. You can watch Criminal minds where everyone is an adult cop with a tragic past or Breaking Bad where everyone is a bald smart alec who sells drugs or Suits where everyone is a lawyer with poor self control
Knuckles is shy and cute
>>566413796Sonic ran from the cops
>>566416967>male required in either scenario
>>566416316>acknowledges the writers can't write>still proceeds to blame the characters
>>566414064>>566414116No modernshit female character will be relevant enough to be part of the main cast like amy is. That's why every attempt to create a "2nd girl" failed miserably
??????
>>566417271If that was the point you were trying to communicate then you failed miserably lol
>>566416717Damn straight!
>>566416939>spoilerI don't even remember anymore, but I think I was jealous that Amy never got benched and got to become a strong character. But taking that frustration out and trying to attribute blame on other characters like Amy was really immature and selfish of me. I don't want to be the kind of person who ruins other people's fun anymore, unless they're actively being malicious in general.
>>566415831>shit animeOf course blazefags love eating garbage
New cover reveal for Swimsuit Special 2026https://x.com/bonsoirdude/status/2052985813181366389
Sonic X is not accurate enough to be mentioned for characterization. It's just as bad as Archie. Fuck OFF.
>>566416973Except youre retarded. Most of those are one offs you arent supposed to expect to stick around and make major appearances in the future forever.Thats the difference.
>>566417875
>>566417836>being rational and reflecting on past behaviorI'm onto you
>>566415947shitazefags haven't played the games at all
>>566417950The changes it brought to Rouge's characterization say it is accurate.
>>566417950Don't you have some Cream to jack off?
>>566418098I love Blaze and I've 100%'d both games go fuck yourself
>>566418010Why do you talk like every character is like Tails? Most characters don't stick around at all
EVERYTHINGISFRICKINGCANADAINSONIC
>>566418010How about you point to me an adult show where the entire main cast is wildly different tropes.
>>566417875>Blaze out of nowhereYou're probably not wrong through. Throw a dart at /sthg/ and you'll hit a Blaze fan.
>>566416901so fucking funny your coalition got wrapped up in metapolitics and the culture war that you stopped caring about actual politics
>>566416580>fang gets in a new official game>sega breaks up the hooligans and gives him a retard girlfriend that defeats himlol monkey's paw franchise
very strange thread today, I’ll check in later
>>566418568>Girlfriend
>>566417936This is fake!
Women should shut up and wear jumpsuits.
>>566418815Really? How could you tell?!
>>566417936This is real
>>566417950Archie IS canon. It ran for 25 years. That's a longer single continuity than anything else. Everything Sonic that has existed since the 90s was built off of Archie.
>>566418185You must not have a life if you're paying close attention to what people post like this.
>>566418858I'm glad some anons are finding Christ through Sonic
>>566417836Well it means a lot to me. So thanks again. Have a splatoon doodle!
>>566419007And then it had a super genesis wave that fixed its canon until it was more like the games
>>566419095Certified Christian since 1993.
>>566419231So you agree that it's canon?
>>566418273Most shouldn't, but they do. And that's the problem. Most every character in Sonic is seen like a major character that should keep showing up.>>566418313Sonic isn't porn. That said, idk what youre talking about. Porn does that all the time.
>>566418907No way. Sonic Team and Sega wouldn't authorize this in a children's comic
>>566417836>>566419109>>566416939Kill yourselves c/u/cks
>>566419564None of that is yuri, get your gaydar retuned
I am God's tool and i shall strike down evil.
>>566418886Hi! You are in the video game general. This is about video games.
>>566419382What the fuck do you think canon means? Archienic even with mandates couldn't control the Werehog, it's non canon by default
>>566418728>Wife
>>566419707Hello fellow gaymer, fiona is a videogame character.Pic related her 3D model.
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>>566418886this is what jess does rightactually they should swap jumpsuits
>>566419771They fags arent built like that
>>566419715Canon is whatever existed the longest or affected the franchise the most and in both cases that's Archie. Everything since has been based on or compared to Archie because it's still the standard for Sonic content.
>>566418728correct
>>566419771Jet would be happier if he had sex with a hedgehog
>>566420006I thought I wrote *these
>>566420054do you guys just make up new definitions for words all the time
>>566420054Archie is a tumor sega was too incompetent to cut out early
>>566418886You should take it off!
*Sigh*
>>566420204THERE IS NOTHING DOWN THERE!
>>566420430FEATURELESS SEXOOOOOOOOO!
>>566420151Nope. I'm using the word correctly. If Archie Sonic wasn't canon why did it last twenty five years? An entire generation of Sonic fans were literally born and raised on Archie Sonic and were old enough to have kids that could read it too. That's canon!
>>566420236Can you actually name a time he was wrong or do you just hate him because he disagrees with you? Archie is OOC, IDW is OOC, Sonic X is OOC. None of them are canon. None of them are video games. They're all crap.
>>566420435AAAAAND THEN THEY FUCKED
Archiefags hate the games but want to be relevant to the games so bad
>>566420724I'm not playing your game. Get lost.
>>566420724Video games can't be canon because they're just games and not an actual narrative. You have it backwards.
>>566420912Of course not. You don't play the games
>>566420906Everyone hates the games they are shit.
I'm tired of this bring back the politics
>>566420912If you played the games or cared about the games you'd be able to argue with Randomfox.
>>566420938Just ignore him. When you see these schizo posts talking about "canon" or how "non-game things bad", just hide. It's not worth talking to him.
>>566421272Explain why it isn't worth talking to people who want to talk about Sonic games
Blaze!
>>566421221He never talks about the games, only about how people don't play them. Only time I ever see him talking about these games was to ship Cream with Storm, or be a schizo of how Sonic Free Riders is In-Character. When you take out his rants about fans, you realize he is a very boring individual not worth talking to.
>>566421396Why? There is no reason to.
>>566420938Archieboomers actually believe this in 2026
>>566421445Name one thing from Sonic Free Riders that was out of character. The entire game is more in-character than your shitty comics.
>>566410109Anita is hot
>>566410404Love her
>>566411839Seconding
>>566421689Welcome to Empire City,have a look around,anything can be foundWe have turistic places,some better some worse,if none of that interest youyou'll be the first.
>westfags coming up with any excuse for mischaracterization for the billionth time
>>566421152Um okay uhColonialism was good, actually.
>>566422091Almost all of us wouldn't be here without it
>>566422193That's an indictment
Even if I’m still iffy on how she was introduced and her current usage, Surge alone decimates her existence on the sole basis of her actually being a female rival. If she ever does cross streams into bigger media than side games, then it’s over. Even her creator lamented how her dimension doesn’t allow for more appearances lol.
>>566422516>Surge>Dimension ???
>>566422516Did you had a stroke and wanted to talk about Blaze?
>>566422601He's talking about in comparison to Blaze.
>>566422601Anon is talking about Blaze
>>566422516Silver and Blaze are both failed Sonic rivals and are going to jerk off with each other in the corner forever.
>>566422797No different from the male rivals. Face it kiddo, the only rival still around is Shadow, everyone else moved on to other roles.
>>566422601Surge is from the IDW Dimension.
>>566422601>>566422668Oops, was replying to this >>566409746
>>566422926Now we're finally getting somewhere. Shadow is indeed the only one consistently being made into Sonic's rival. Silver is left to play 11th hour ranger and Knuckles only gets to be a rival when the west can push for it
>>566422757>Sonic's equal How many of these goddamn characters do we need
I'M GONNA FUCK THE MOBIANS!
So we all agree (astroturfing) that my politics is good (appeal to morality), while yours is evil because you're a bad person (ad-hominem) who says evil things (strawman), and is mean to people (cherry picking) because your ideas are all about doing evil (generalization) and if implemented those will inevitably damage society? (slippery slope)
>>566418886I'mma fuck the fox
>>566423602You eat pop corns when you're depressed too?
>>566423602
>>566415987SCHIZOVER
>>566422926Shadow isn't even a male rival anymore if we're being honest.Cast is broken. Tangle and Jewel got broken too.
>>566421221>Suggesting he is worth discussing
>>566423765When i'm depressed i eat potato chips.
>>566423998I will never understand why people leave comments on porn or why anyone would want to read that drivel unless you’re looking for sources.
>>566423440Metal: The FacsimileShadow: The ShadowBlaze: The MirrorSurge: The Antithesis
>>566423919Don't be a doomer.
I actually agree FreeRiders characters arent really OoC. They are a bit flanderized but not really OoC. People I feel mostly claim they are OoC because of the voices.Not even a randomfox fan. I think he's unhinged.
>>566423440If you think that's bad, wait until you realize that there will eventually be more
>>566423310See this us why I say >>566423919. In SA2 they are fighting over who is the real Sonic/ Ultimate Lifeform. But outside that context, especially after Shadow concedes that Sonic is the Ultimate Lifeform, their rivalry makes no sense.Canonizing Mural Theory is the only way to salvage Shadow.
>>566424180Most comments are just boring roleplays. It gives some folks a hard on.
>>566424186Knuckles, Silver and Jet
>>566423909I'm glad you like it anon >.<
>>566424224Isn't flanderization a sign of "out of character" to begin with? Free Riders Amy is a total jerk, completely different from how she was in the first two Riders games.
>>566424224lol cream is useless
>>566416314Cute エミー. Would make snowmen in a field with.
You don't like Free Riders, it's still more in character than any Archie comic or episode of Sonic X
>>566424207I'm just fucking bored, man. Characters just show up to reference past media or invoke tropes from external media and I'm just bored.
>>566410109Sarkeesian was right that what happened to Dinosaur Planet and Krystal was BS. She was also right that Amy's portrayal in CD was misogynistic, but she was wrong about why it was misogynistic (Amy being a damsel rather being an obstacle that physically impeding the player from moving) and that it was important by implying anyone played Sonic CD. Amy's Dark Age game portrayals did more to (inadvertently) reinforce misogyny within the Sonic fanbase than her appearance in CD.
>>566424407I thought we were talking about rivals that could keep up with Sonic
>>566424550Flanderizing is taking one trait and blowing it out of proportion, so in a sense, yes.
>>566424707This but the entire sonic franchise
Most of you should calm down and wait for the next main game instead of talking as if 20 years old lore is still relevant
>>566424659Spiteful, aren't we?
>>566424756They all can
Unlocked Super Sonic in Sonic 2. You can cheese through the levels of you can control him, which can be hard especially in platforming sections. So there's a cool balance there
>>566424738It's not misogynistic to portray a female as needing to be rescued by a male. You keep using loaded words like 'misogyny' and others in a gratuitous manner that's outside of what they actually mean.
>>566424872Why would old lore stop being relevant? Are you retarded?
>>566424686As a fan of Dragon Ball, I get ya. Eventually you get bored and move on to other series. Happened to me, who watched Daima and Superhero out of obligation because I was already bored of the series.
>>566424738I have literally no idea what you people mean by "misogyny" anymore.
>>566424738Adventureshit will waste money on voice acting and dialogue, but never just make the characters actually fun to play as. Sega had the right idea with whisper and tangle. cut the voice lines entirely.
>>566425039I think people took the wrong lesson from the "damsel in distress" trope. The problem wasn't that a girl needed to be rescued, it was that the girl was just an object to be worn, and not a person. This is like how many wannabe progressives misunderstood Ariel and Belle from Disney movies, suggesting they were a girl who fell in love at first sight and left everything for a man and the latter was a victim of Stockholm syndrome, despite a lot of nuance in the movies disproving such claims.
>>566425087I dropped Dragonball after the Zamasu arc for the same reasons I'm sick of Sonic. Probably gonna drop Sonic again after the new game gets announced, I really can't take more open world or boost formula out of obligation.
>>566425039Have her get kidnapped but unlocked after the end. Amy SHOULD'VE been playable in CD. Maybe it wouldn't have taked sega 30 years to give her a moveset that wasn't dogshit.
If you like the comics, you hate the characters. End of story.
>>566424872>wait for the next main gameIt's been 100 years
>>566424872This dogshit franchise can't even let go of green hill zone
What if sonic meets the dragonborn?
>>566425352I don't think most women even care. Looking at the way Amy, Rouge, and Blaze are handled and still having female fans. I've come to believe women's rights has been spearheaded by misandrist feminists who are proponents of values which ultimately damaged the social fabric. Like Anita is a spinster who married herself and never had kids.
>>566425352Feminists are angry and bitter and hate motherhood, fatherhood, marriage, strong men, and gentle women. Of course they would hate the damsel in distress trope
>>566425086Don't you think saying things like>Shadow rivalry with Sonic makes no sense anymoreIt's a stupid statement when he basically just returned from being a forgotten character? Maybe we should wait for Sega to put him in a main game and see what they do with him? He just had a little competition with Sonic in ShadowGens and nothing else.And before you mention Forces, I don't think anyone should consider Forces to be canon besides for Infinite.
>>566423790I will plap the bat>>566425436I will plap the lemur
>>566425619New trailer next month. Believe
In my opinion, voice acting and heavy dialogue added a lot of noise to Sonic discourse. Ever since the games became more story focused, the fandom has spent years arguing over who said what, which translation is more accurate, whether the Japanese version is “better”, and if a certain line changes a character completely.The older games had way less of this because most of the experience came through gameplay, animation and visual storytelling. You inferred Sonic’s personality through how he moved and reacted, not through endless dialogue debates.I also think people sometimes get more impressed that a game has a story or voice acting than whether the writing is actually good. Sonic fans will debate translations for years but rarely stop and ask if the scene itself is even that well written. A lot of the dialogue is just standard action/fantasy stuff you hear in loads of other media anyway.That’s partly why I never understood the huge voice actor wars as a kid. I remember people constantly arguing over Jason Griffith and Ryan Drummond, and I never got why people acted like Sonic was such a complicated character that one voice completely changed him.Another reason I never understood it is because Sonic isn’t really tied to a specific culture, place, age group or realistic background in the first place. He’s a stylised cartoon animal mascot, so I always found it strange how fandoms act like there’s one definitive “correct” voice for him. It’s not like a grounded novel where the exact voice and dialect are essential to understanding the character. Sonic’s personality is usually obvious within a few minutes anyway.Even Sonic being branded as a “teenager” always felt more cosmetic than literal to me. Outside of a few versions, Sonic rarely acted like an actual teenager with believable immaturity or insecurity. Most of the time he behaved more like an abstract mascot/action hero with a teenage image attached to him.
Isn't Tails a cutie?
>>566425723Of course they care, but not in the way you imagine. I personally believe the opposite by now, that the critics of suck groups have been lead by woman-hating men who lost any nuance and just want to be angry about something.
SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT SALLY
What's wrong with wanting the characters to have the personalities they do in the games
>>566426204What’s funny is that when Sonic actually does behave more like a cocky teenager with genuine attitude, fans often reject it. Versions like Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog, Sonic the Hedgehog: The Movie, Sonic the Comic, Sonic Boom or even parts of Sonic Colors got criticised for Sonic being too sarcastic, immature, edgy or annoying. But then the fandom also says Sonic should have “attitude”.I think over time a lot of fans got attached to Sonic as more of a polished fantasy/action hero instead, especially during the 2000s era. So when Sonic acts more like an actual reckless cartoon teenager again, people sometimes react badly to it even though that arguably fits the original concept more closely.I think a lot of the translation and voice acting discourse comes from people chasing this idea of “purity”, where the original Japanese version is treated as automatically deeper or more authentic, even though most fans don’t actually know the language or wider cultural context themselves.
k0t
>>566425967The opinions of people of what is canon or not is irrelevant. Forces was the last mainline game to involve Shadow in some way, so of course people would use it.
>>566425757Can you blame them? Men are inherently better than women so they want to be more like men. There is no point to "gentle women."
>>566426393stfu about japan for a moment what does their worthless country do write with sonic?
>>566426204TrvthThough people having voice actor preferences isn't an issue to me. And I don't see how cartoon characters having a specific voice direction is a bad thing or unnecessary. And it does add to their characterization
>>566426393I think a lot of the translation and voice acting discourse comes from people chasing this idea of “purity”, where the original Japanese version is treated as automatically deeper or more authentic, even though most fans don’t actually know the language or wider cultural context themselves.https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ForeignCultureFetish
>>566426572Men are dogshit. All they do is eat, kill and die
>>566425039That's what I said, depending on how the game presents it, it's not misogynistic for Amy, or any female character, to need rescuing, in regards to Sonic CD, Sarkeesian was wrong here. What makes CD misogynistic is how it mechanically uses Amy as an obstacle, as something to be avoided, in her first appearance. If she hugs you, you can't move unless you jump and run away from her as an obstacle, with it or could be read as misogynistic.On the other hand, CD's portrayal of Amy very minor, she is arguably less important and prominent than Lady in DK, and overall CD Amy isn't too important in the grand scheme of things for Sonic as most fans first met Amy in the Modern games.
>>566426842That's not true, I can read and write!
>>566426572A woman's natural advantage is that they're more gentle, emotionally sensitive, and nurturing than men, which is what makes them excellent mothers and caretakers
>>566426851I presume Sarkeesian was judging Amy based on her "deranged stalker" osmosis from the 2000's?
>>566426204>Divides the fanbase.
>>566427023Not even true. They're just physically weaker.
>>566426252There's no nuance to be had. Feminism elevated women and those women destroyed men because women hate men with lower relative status. Giving women power was a mistake.
>>566427229Men will never be women and women will never be men, sorry.
>>566426764Well the Japanese versions are kind of more authentic by default (most of the time) since you will inevitably lose some things in translation (unless you add those tiny notes explaining the cultural nuances but that can get awkward to the reader quickly). So I'm not against translations changing things to an extent >>566426393That generic anime hero version of Sonic in the 2000s is so damn boring
>>566427096Mamma deera.
>>566426558But Sega doesn't care about Forces either, that's why they changed so much in Frontiers, to the point they even changed Sonic's voice to sound so much deeper.Did you forget we used to call Frontiers step in to the right direction ?I want to believe in Sega and hope for a good Sonic game this year
>>566426851>>566427145Modernshit doubled-down on Amy being an obstacle and made her entire campaign be sluggish dogshit
Men made the first video game.And then they made the best video game.
>>566427421We just had Infinite and Gadjet return in some projects lately, and on a Japanese poll, Forces is among the staff's favorite Sonic projects.
Sonic should be more like aosth. Not the overly emotional harem anime protag in archie/satam, not the edgelord of the 00s either.
>>566427329And women are worthless.
>>566427326Women had all the power as soon as they grew tits
>>566426851I do find it disrespectful to Amy that you have to run away from her in CD but I don't believe it was the game designers' intention for it to be disrespectful. Anyway, I'm glad she's getting the love she deserves now after years of her character being dragged through the mud but we still have to deal with Ian Flynn trying to ruin her and Sega letting him get away with it
>>566426572Scourge approve this post
>>566427653I refuse to jerk off to men fucking each other
>>566427096Bump's bumps bumping my face!
>>566427597>The only thing people cared about when Frontiers was announced is still the only thing people care about todayI see no issue with that
>>566427597by nature of passage of time, Forces is in season for farming nostalgia off the kids who played it.
>>566427694Of course, something innocent in the classic era was twisted by modernshit
>>566427067I only watched the video in OP so idk, lol. Though, I image she would be more receptive to Modern Amy who is a more active/playable participant in the Modern games. The fact that Sarkeesian describes CD as having"damsel'ed" Amy suggests that Amy wasn't damsel'ed at some point before, so she may be more familiar with the more active Modern Amy who isn't as frequently presented as a "traditional" damsel in destress. Ultimately the video isn't really exhaustive.
>>566427840You are proving my point. They are just objects to fantasize about. Completely worthless.
>>566427421Infinite needs to be a grimdark villain
>>566426474Plap>>566427096I'm gonna bump Bump's bumps with my bump>>566427629Monke booty
Bun!
>>566428057I just remembered that line in Frontiers "I'm not a damsel in distress anymore" who wrote that shit? Sonic tails and knuckles were all captured in the last two games. No one thinks of amy as a damsel. They think of her as a nutjob. How out of touch can someone be and still have a job? What brain-damaged cock-choked faggot let that line get past quality control?
Teirusu
>>566427543Men wouldn't exist without women and soon you won't exist. We are making progress towards a female only lesbian world
>>566428723But you'll never get any more good video games.
Can we talk about good topics like Tails instead
>>566428585Progs will make up entire historical narratives about always being the victim. That's all their ideology can permit and it bleeds through to fiction. Same reason why the Star Wars sequels are still rebels fighting The Empire. It's all they know.
>>566427694I agree, everything with Amy was done in innocence because this is a children's series; but remember this is just a reading, death of an author theory and all that. Amy in particular sticks out because she is the most prominent girl of a +30 year old franchise, so even for people outside of the fanbase, she is the standard female rep.I am also happy ST is trying to rectify Classic Amy, even if most of the fanbase (on both sides of the argument) doesn't really appreciate it.Ian is not your enemy, he writes a very good Classic Amy and everything you hate about Modern-Modern Amy was probably due to Sega, they have the last say.
>>566428854What game can moids do better than us girlypops?
>>566428585Ian Flynn wrote that. In fact, in the Japanese version of Frontiers, Amy didn't say 'I'm not just a damsel in distress anymore'. Ian Flynn also got away with removing Amy's love from her bio in Sonic x Shadow Generations and from her bio in the 35th anniversary release of the 'Welcome to the Wonderful World of Sonic' book. It pains me to think that Takashi Iizuka is allowing al this
>>566428585Flynn didn't. The line was written by another person, same as the Lego world thing with Sonic, where Amy says the same thing when you find her.
>>566428325
>>566428958The most important one.
>>566428297only one huh?
>>566427023Nothing is biologically stopping men from being nurturing caretakers
>>566428960Flynn didn't wrote any of that, anon. He is a main writer for the story mode, but secondary dialogue wasn't his job.
>my dick needs BAM BAM BAMPathetic
>>566428949>Ian is not your enemy, he writes a very good Classic Amy and everything you hate about Modern-Modern Amy was probably due to Sega, they have the last say.That sounds just like what Ian Flynn would say. "Don't blame me, blame the mandates". He's done that before. I'm not falling for it. The only reason Classic Amy is written well by Ian Flynn is because he's getting tard wrangled. Clearly, someone hasn't been keeping a leash on him lately given all that's happening to modern Amy
I like Sonic because
>>566428949I love the way Amy is written in the Classic Sonic specials, and Hesse does a good work with Amy in the Sonic Mania short. The art style may be a factor too, Classic Amy looks adorable compared with modern, who I just don't find as appealing (same thing I feel with Tails).
>>566428585It sounds like they(Sega, ST and the writers of the game) are trying to reorient the fan perception of Amy away from "stalker girl" to "I was once a passive victim, but now I am not", which is something they did more elegantly back in SA1,( the game where Amy actually stand up to Sonic for the first time to save a badnik).Honestly, this tells me that internally, ST sees Amy's character start point as CD, while the fanbase sees her start point as SA1.
>>566429416Unique art style
>>566426204The correct voice for Sonic is Japanese and you're being an insufferable conceited faggot
>>566429416...of the character designs, unique visuals, music and gameplay concepts
tails would be vastly improved if he was a mid-20s female office worker in a tv show set in modern japan where everyone was an anthropomorphic animal
>>566429510I just remember Lego Dimensions, and think that is easier to pretend Amy's problem was that she was a damsel in distress, when the most vocal people had a problem with her being insane in her love for Sonic, which is harder to justify. It's clearly a "let's not talk about this again" moment. Like the MCU ignoring the Hulk movie.
>>566428949>Ian is not your enemy, he writes a very good Classic Amy and everything you hate about Modern-Modern Amy was probably due to Sega, they have the last say.If I'm looking at Generations 15 years ago and Generations 1.5 years ago, the difference in Amy's actions and dialogue don't really point to a common ground like Sega. It points to the new factor.
>>566429749That show would only be good for shipping and gooner bait.
>>566429749No Tails is perfect as he is
>>566410312>Fans go out of there way to distance them.He's usually Mario's player two in fan games too. I think it's weird that you think a character needs to be distanced from the protagonist when they're designed to contrast with themLuigi wasn't designed to contrast Mario. He started as a literal palette swap for 2P.Luigi is generally more liked character-wise in a similar autistic way Sonic characters are because they made an effort to give him some kind of defined personality and went out of their way to differentiate him from Mario over time.Luigi isn't even present in Mario's major console outings starting with 64 all the way to Galaxy. And he only is back in that because fans kept asking for him to be playable again, similar to Sonic's shitty friends.
>>566429139Then who wrote those lines and why are they so different between the Japanese and English versions? Whoever is responsible for letting Ian get away with ruining Amy's character in the English versions needs to be fired
>>566429871
>>566429749this makes my pussy swell up
>>566429510>I was once a passive victim, but now I am not", which is something they did more elegantly back in SA1,( the game where Amy actually stand up to Sonic for the first time to save a badnik).It helps SA1 didn't have a 20-year backlog of rancid modernshit writing to ignore
Tails hasn't been good in a game since SA2. I haven't seen a good argument for keeping him in the games aside from "he's iconic"
>>566429092bratty princess needs spankings
>>566428325Clank the Clanker!>>566429092If do anymore, I might accidentally make a new heir.
>>566430000Fiona…
>>566429976There are three credited writers for Sonic Frontiers. Ian wrote the main storyline and the cutscenes, but the world hub dialogue was done presumably by the third writer. In the DLC, Flynn only wrote the story cutscenes, but the interactions were done by someone else.I'll look out later and tell you. Flynn, Kishimoto, and the level designer guy.
Why is Shadow called brooding and boring when he is one of the only characters to cry not once but twice while Sonic has never?
>>566430086Tails was designed to go in adventures with Sonic. He's the character that should appear the most besides Sonic and Eggman because of that
>>566425352I get so pissed when people say that about Ariel. Ian Flynn is guilty of it also. Ariel's main story thread is her father being controlling and her wanting freedom and independence. Eric is literally just her man candy. He's barely a character.Her being with him is not the point. The point is that she is rewarded narratively for doing what she wants and feels even if her controlling father disagrees with it.She sings a goddamn Song about it at the start of the movie.
>>566430316Okay but he sucks
>>566429976Jyunpei Ootsu.
>>566429139That's not true. Ian had Sonic mention Tangle in extra dialog.
>>566430314Crying js brooding?
Is the Dorito pope our ally or our enemy?
>>566430384>He's barely a character.But he's hot.
>>566429791So we're just gonna ignore all the garbage sega pumped out between 1998 and 2013, except the white bitch who'll get shot every week
>>566429967>Luigi is generally more liked character-wise in a similar autistic way Sonic characters are because they made an effort to give him some kind of defined personality and went out of their way to differentiate him from Mario over time.The damage that Luigi's Mansion did to Luigi can never be undone or forgiven and I will make sure Miyamoto or whoever it was burns in hell for their transgressions against my boy.
>>566430391No he doesn't. He's good and helpful
FBI said there were sightings of 3 feet tall antropomorphic animals back in 1998
>>566429416he's fast
>>566430391But enough about Silver
>>566429416The lesbians :3
>>566430524Amy says she is no longer a damsel in distress in The Final Horizon in a hub interaction, which weren't written by Flynn. Flynn did write the idle dialogue, yeah, I'm thinking of the dialogue with the Elder Koko, which Sonic mentions a "time traveller", Flynn confirmed he didn't wrote that one.
>>566430443I highly doubt he was responsible for writing the English line. He only wrote the Japanese one
>>566430248>mysterious 3rd writerWhat a mess
>>566430571The hero we need, but not the one we deserve.
>>566430623Yes.
Duofag make an IDW cover of Shadow and Sally about to have loud sex
>>566430571The most exciting thing he's done is kill highguard
>>566430873Many games use secondary writers for minor elements. Metal Gear Solid 2 had one that wrote the Snake Tales.>>566430817Amy line is the same in both IIR.
>>566430634>damage?
>>566430996The gays.
*saved the franchise*
How do you feel that Duo is the most famous fag from here that just mindbroke half of Xitter with his Vanilla gen just now
>>566431474*and still a virgin*
>>566431134In the Japanese version, she says "I'm not just going to wait around or chase you anymore! I'm going to be so wonderful you can count on me!" Watch the English translation video of the Japanese cutscenes for The Final Horizon
>>566431587where do you think you are
>>566431563like there should be a team of assholes that go all in and make a better comic using AI
>>566431563He needs to do the same thing with Shadally and Sonurge
>>566431563x is 70% bots who cares also why post about yourself lol
>>566430881
>>566431474Thank you Evan!!!!!
>>566431671>sallykys
>>566431868Anon
>>566431667Hey, we’re a team of assholes! We got AI!
This is why you can almost never trust westerners to work on Sonic except for a very small minority
>>566431868lol
>>566430431poor Jess, she partied to hard
>>566431868And why did you make the black girl large enough to call attention to her? Is it because she's black?
>>566431993Krack....
>>566432171Westerners shouldn't be allowed to work on Sonic at all.
>>566431617I see. Pardon my mistake.
>>566430086Superstars disagrees.
>>566431563I don't go to Twitter, so I don't care.
Anon is gonna die
>>566432171
>>566432171For the West, Amy's character introduction was Sonic Heroes/Sonic X.
>Faggots mad at Duochad winning again
Why are you talking in 3rd person?
>>566432923because nobody has anything nice to say to him
>>566432308I pulled it off Google images don't ask me
>loser is huffing his own farts again
>>566432702Tangle is me when I see any Mobian
>>566432834Krack genuinely needs to get off Xitter and touch grass. Does she have any irl friends?
>>566431563I go to twitter and I care.
Man, discussing on who wrote what in Sonic Frontiers is like discussing which animator worked in an anime scene.
>>566427145
>>566432568Classickino reversing the damage modernshit did to these characters, yet again
>>566432414There are very clear dialogue differences in between the Japanese and English versions of Frontiers and that includes Amy's love for Sonic being absent in the English version of Frontiers and I don't like that. I've already sent a complaint to SOJ telling them this and I also told them it has discouraged me from buying future Sonic games. Every time Ian ruins Amy's character, whether it was in Frontiers, that one episode of TailsTube, and that 35th anniversary book, Sega of America always does damage control by releasing Amy merch instead of preventing the problem from happening again. I'm going to vote with my wallet. I refuse to buy any official Sonic merch until things get fixed
>>566433148I'm not the only one who sees that girl and thinks of Maria, right?
Sonic is a Japanese franchise
>>566432721>winningWhat has he done? Used a machine? I could use the same model and prompts and get near enough the same work. I don't get what he has to be proud of or why Twitter is shitting itself. Wow, more AI slop.Give me something shit made by someone who at least cares enough to try any day
>>566432707The moment the series became shovelware
whiteboard
>>566433269Flynn didn't even wrote those Tailstube episodes, it was Hesse or some other guy. There are multiple cooks in the kitchen. Again, this is like finding out who animated what in an anime, kinda headscratching.
>>566433303Yes you are the only one who looks at blonde girls dressed in blue and thinks of Maria. I don't, nobody does. You're such a fucking freak for doing this. And you're gay.
>>566433370dont waste your time replying to him talking about himself
>>566433303No, I been teasing Di since the first trailer.
>>566433303Shadow.... not every Aryan woman is Maria
>>566433640Thumbnail made it look like she had big ol' hooters.
>>566432702I need more reaction images like this
Alota x Duofag Krack x SparkyRandomfox x WoefagThe sthg ships
>>566433438see >>566389162
>>566433475Ian Flynn did write the TailsTube episode where Amy gives Sonic a photo of her in a heart frame but Sonic disrespectfully and ungratefully replaces it with a photo of him and Tails drawing a silly face on the back of Eggman's head. Ian Flynn wrote this to spite Amy
>>566433986thank you
>>566433896Vids when?
>>566433996You know he wouldn't do this with Sally.
>>566424550>>566424757Yeah but not in the same way. I would describe a character as straight up out of character when they are acting like a different person for no reason, doing or saying things that they wouldn't. FreeRiders plays up certain traits a little more for comedic purposes.>Free Riders Amy is a total jerk,Most of her Jerkiness is perceived as such because people have gaslit the community into thinking she is bullying Cream. Also Cindy's Amy Voice is just very annoying and unsympathetic in that game.I don't like FreeRiders Amy but her behavior in the context of the game isn't exactly out of character. She wants to impress Sonic with her boarding skills. Gets mad at Rouge for abusing their Robot teammate and gets into beef with Vector. These are all things she has done in the past as in known for. Compare this to Amy being a level headed and responsible leader of the restoration in early IDW or acting like she never got to tell Sonic she loved him in Lost World.
>>566433996and the photo was replaced again with a photo of sonic and amy together
>>566434082Better than 12 minutes.
I give a fuck about what cunts on twitter are doing!
>>566433896Tailsfag x Fionafag
>>566411828Blaze is Nega-Sonic. She is the polar-opposite parallel inverse to Sonic the Hedgehog, who is the center of the franchise. Sonic sets the standard, the baseline, that everyone else deviates from. If you took every single "Deviation" and unified it within a single character, you'd get the polar opposite parallel inverse of Sonic: Blaze the Cat. It's that simple. Everyone else exists on the wavelength between Sonic & Blaze.
>>566434317What an astroturfed character
>>566433996https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/TailsTubehttps://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/TailsTube_No._6_(Surprise_Gift_Exchange_Bonanza)Well, I did double check but unfortunately I can't find any credited writer in that one episode you're talking about.
>>566434227In fact, when people started calling him out on Twitter over what he did to Amy in that episode, he defended it by saying that Amy is a big girl and that she can take a joke
>>566434486Good job getting a free ban, retard KEK
>>566434486Completely in character
>>566434450This faggot's entire career is a joke
>>566415054>>Tails = Midoriya>No.Deku is literally just Tails. He was bullied so much for being different that he looks down on himself, but he idolizes a hero that he goes out of his way to emulate and be like. All Might is to Deku, as Sonic is to Tails. And just as Tails' core ability is keeping up with Sonic, Deku is given All Might's quirk and uses it by imitating All Might. But in both cases, they go beyond their mentors and develop their own style. The very of who Tails is, is embodied by Deku very strongly.
>he's still posting twitter screenshots of himselfno one care faggot
>>566434082Congratulations anon
>>566434486Gaynnies can do the best thing and ban Duonigger right now
Ian is the one who killed Sonally for his lesbian fetish
he's going to get mindbroken again lol
>>566415858Not me.
>>566434302I don't understand why people are surprised that a fucking parody is getting engagement. This is the same problem I have with the whiteboard and some artists, they draw whatever the fuck they want and not what people want, then expect to get the same amount of engagement as a meme parody.
>>566434486Surge and Sonic love fucking all night
duofag still mindborken over the whiteboard drawfags lol
>>566434845trickster archetypes reveal the truth
>>566428949They better fix her nose like they did with Tails!
>>566434310
>>566426204In my opinion, voice acting and heavy dialogue added a lot of noise to Sonic discourse. Ever since the games became more story focused, the fandom has spent years arguing over who said what, which translation is more accurate, whether the Japanese version is “better”, and if a certain line changes a character completely.This existed back then. You/We just didn't know and it wasn't as in your face because it was the pre-internet age.For those online at the time, you had discourse about SegaSonic vs WesternSonic or ArchieSonic, etc.>Another reason I never understood it is because Sonic isn’t really tied to a specific culture, place, age group or realistic background in the first place. He’s a stylised cartoon animal mascot, so I always found it strange how fandoms act like there’s one definitive “correct” voice for him. It’s not like a grounded novel where the exact voice and dialect are essential to understanding the character. Sonic’s personality is usually obvious within a few minutes anyway.The simple reality is, Sonic is particular among "videogame mascot" series for having these things in the first place. You dismiss these things as "typical for the genre", but for a videogame series within this space, it simply wasn't common. and in other examples of mascot series with these things, there is similar discourse.This is so common in animated shows. People having arguments about the artstyle change between American Dragon Jake long's first and second season, or all the Ben10 shows, or all the Batman Shows, etc.It's only when you feel obligated to compare Sonic to mario to the exclusion of anything else that this seems confusing.
What a bunch of eggheads.
Ian has said he's a big fan of Fullmetal Alchemist and it's one of the things he bases his writing on, but I have not seen any of his work come anywhere close to it. I wouldn't even think he was a fan of that series if he didn't state it on his podcast where he glazed it.
it would be pretty in line for him to buy fake twitter followers so I assume he does that as well
>>566426393>even though that arguably fits the original concept more closely.Sonic's original concept wasn't that at all though.
Duofag made it big but he still comes back here begging for approval like the first girl who rejected him.Gatsby ass nigga
>>566434845>Duofag admits sperging out over drawings
>>566430229
>>566435170you new here? he makes a point to do it every sunday when the finished whiteboard gets posted
Surge makes me horny
>>566434845Duofag spitting facts as usual
>>56643516712k likes is nothing if you want to actually make it as an influencer, and people who do nothing but post AI porn don't get sponsors
>>566434563>People get mad at Ian for doing this to Amy in the episodeSOA begins to sell plushies of Sonic and Amy together in a Valentine's Day flower bouquet>Ian removes Amy's love for Sonic in the 35 anniversary book by changing her character description from "Sonic's admirer" to "Sonic's trusted friend", which causes a lot of people to erupt in anger (justifiably)SOA releases an Alice and Wonderland model for Sonic and Amy and begins to sell T shirts of that one Sonic x Amy Wallpaper on Sonic Channel from 2021But you want to know what SOA doesn't do? They don't prevent Ian from abusing Amy's character so screw them. Their merch is worthless unless they tard wrangle Ian Flynn
>>566435275But now he's not even pretending it's multiple different people and deny it's him
>>566430660Interesting if true.
>>566435119This is lame but makes for an interesting AU where Surge and Kit never not brainwashedWouldn't it be funny if Kit was never brainwashed but still hated Tails' guts
>>566434845how much money do you make from xitter engagement
>>566434985CUTE!
>>566435201>>566430229
Sonamybesties are mad that Surge is a more interesting love interest again
>>566432673Eventually. Everyone dies though, except Sonic.
>>566435170I honestly think he feels insecure about not being able to draw.
>>566434996I prefer Fiona x Fonzie
>>566435457probably because his facade got broken when missed a couple sundays the past couple of months and all the replies that are supposed to be from everyone in the general suddenly disappeared all at once. Everyone knows it's just him relentlessly samefagging
>>566435689None.
>>566435869He can draw
Amyfags obsessed with sonamy, silverfags obsessed with SSS, blazefags obsessed with the last 10 seconds of rush, knucklesfags obsessed with the trio, and rougefags who ship her with either knuckles or shadow are all the same faggot. This shitass franchise only invests in sonic or shadow. Any character's connection to either of them is vital to the character's existence.
>>566435981not very well
>>566435401You're taking it way too seriously.
>>566435981Show
As an Amyfan, one is is also critical of Ian's way of handling the character, some of you are pretty unhinged and seem to just want someone to attack over your frustrations with how she has been handled.Chill out a little. I don't agree with most of his opinions regarding her, but he isn't the devil either. His actions regarding Amy seem more to be from a lack of care or appreciation, moreso than malice.
>>566435869>>566435981He has potential to be an amazing artist, either by pen, prompt or both. But he'd rather use all that energy to gaslighting and bullying anons. He's just like LC
>>566433507Cute when she blushes bright red.
Amy is worthless. Surge is a better fit. Sonic would never slow down for Amy
>>566435981All he did was trace Nicole.
>>566436235>"As an Amyfan"Into >>>/trash/ it goes.
Sonic powerscaling is a funny thing.
Shadow is such retarded crybaby bitch. Sonic and Knuckles are significantly cooler than he is.
>>566436235He doesn't like the character, anon. He would rather have Sally in her place.
>>566433896Alota makes really good cats
>>566436154he has a tag on the booru, you can see his stuff there
>>566435332What about Scourge x Surge
>>566434082Doesn't that bright mouse light bug ya? Doesn't it make your hand glow red near your wrist?
>>566436486>He doesn't like the character, anon.I'm aware.>He would rather have Sally in her place.I don't doubt this.
>>566436529>moviefag profile picture
Imagine giving a shit about a character not in the movies
>>566436619Imagine the rape...
>>566434996Cucking Tails by fucking Fiona! Wait, they already did that
>>566436154https://sthg.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=duofag_%28artist%29
>>566436727Amy is in the movies though.
>>566436772kek no wonder he uses AI
>>566436042Nice boobjob, Sonic.
Shadally Sonurge Silvouge
>>566436982Silvouge is ultimately lameIf he had gen mommy Gold... then we could talk
>>566436131Ian is trying to remove Amy's biggest character trait. It's not trivial>>566436235Ian has openly admitted that he was aiming to get rid of Amy's love for Sonic in Frontiers when he wrote her to say "I want to share my love with the world even if it takes us far apart". It is malice. Every time he has the opportunity to remove Amy's love for Sonic, he does it. If it wasn't malice, he would've stopped trying to corrupt Amy a long time ago but he persists
Why is Lanolin such a bitch?
>>566437129>Ian is trying to remove Amy's biggest characterGood. Surge is better
Sonic the Hedgehog, prejudiced against non-traditional families.
Sonic came inside Surge. Her womb was filled with his seed.
>>566437374*Anon came inside SurgeBuilt for Humies by the way
>>566435042
>>566437129>This conversation again
Sonamy fans don't understand Sonic
>>566437053
>>566437461Fuck off Flynn
>>566437129>he wrote her to say "I want to share my love with the world
>Why does your face look like that?>Why are you so fugly?>You weak dumbass.>People are scared of you because of the way you look and act.>You goddamn weirdo.>Stop being a creep.>What did Maria ever see in you?
>>566437176Eh idk I find the concept interesting. Someone weak who is resentful of the strong because they don't feel like they have a responsibility to use their power for justice.On the other hand it's bad for the setting and requires the Sonic Cycle concept and mischaracterizes Sonic.
>>566436469Sonic just needs to achieve Super Sonic 3 and everything will be fixed
>>5664374825 years later after Sonic inseminated Surge. Beautiful.
>>566437603Some brilliant anons found a solution to this
>>566437562No bully.
>>566437540>>566437536
quit looking obsessively at a blue hedgehog's dating life its autistic
everyone watch, he's about to reply to the pictures of people's OCs that he posted himself so he can pretend to be mad about it
>>566437461It's disrespectful to take away Amy's love for Sonic while the hype for Movie 4 grows
>>566431563Arop posting this fake cover! It's not funny!
>>566437734I remember thatWonder is anyone would believe this would happen
>>566435351
>>566437779I'm fucking the hedgehog
>>566437938When he wrote that shit, there was no movie 4. Now cease with the topic, I'm bored of it.
If you remove the music, rush is significantly the shittiest 2D in Sonic
imagine how much sonic 4 would sell if it was sally, it'll beat the mario galaxy movie
>>566438092I'm talking about the 35th anniversary book
>>566437129>Ian has openly admitted that he was aiming to get rid of Amy's love for Sonic in Frontiers when he wrote her to say "I want to share my love with the world even if it takes us far apart".yes and I think that's stupid. I don't think it's malice though. He just is one of those guys that thinks he is being progressive for it.
>>566437835You know Krack is going to kill you for drawing this right?
>>566438146>rushThat's an odd way to spell CD.
I'm going to see Movie 4 for Metal Sonic. I geniunely do not care about your waifu or the essays about her characterization. Go bore your mother.
>>566438257I'm not the artist though
>>566438159Nothing is outselling Mario and even if it was Sally it would probably sell less without Amy. No one recognizes her outside of gen x and millennials
Is it OC time?
>>566438380Stay on-topic.
>>566437982Lanolin becoming a villain is way too ambitious of an idea for IDW.
>>566438267CD actually had gaming soul build into it's levels.
>>566438380Technically, all characters are OC's.
>>566438380She looks like some Diives OC
>>566438521
>>566438521Time travel gimmick was silly, the future levels don't even do anything! Also that awful fuckin' jump sound.
>>566438507only as ambitious as making silver a villain
>>566438232Ian has made no attempt to course correct after so many people have told hime time and time again to not take Amy's love away from Sonic. He only doubles down I don't see any goodwill on his part so I'm not going to think he's being innocently ignorant
>>566438050
>>566438707Rush is shit, it's rushit.
>>566431563it's missing gloves and the feet should be either paws or blobs
>>566438817Pretty sure Amy could've stepped through those bars...
shhhh he's sleeping
>>566439062
>>566438267This is true for both Rush and CD DESU.Rush Adventure is better than Rush but people insist its not just because it doesn't have Naganuma beats.
>>566438380it always is
>>566437230Faggot will ruin Surge too
>>566439174OOC, she can't escape from the bestiecage unless Surge gives her permission.
So what happened at the end of Prime? Did Sonic and Shadow wipe out all the people they met on their adventures?
>>566438809Got any examples? He hasn't really done anything in recent memory since then to suggest this if you ask me.
"he wouldn't do it to Sally" but he did
Sonic isn't allowed to be in relationships because the amount of pussy-slaying would change the entire franchise's genre into dating sim
>>566436042
>>566438507>>566438803What you people want is an anti-hero
>>566438159Sega would bury it like super hornio bros
>>566439619Is Silver an anti-hero?
If you like any other 2D game over CD you are a westnigger and hate Japan.
>>566439350
>>566438276>Metal Jobber
>>566439416The 35th anniversary character book, which was written by Ian Flynn, was originally released in 2021. The 2021 release called Amy "Sonic's admirer" in her bio and made her daydream and swoon over Sonic in quotes but the 2026 version was changed to call Amy "Sonic's trusted friend" and nowhere does she express her love for Sonic in the new version
>>566439586Sonic fucking js like Batman killing. If he wanted to he could do it and it would be too easy for him
>>566439745He's doing what is considered correct in reality, killing one person to remove evil is considered very heroic to many but very anti heroic to the loudest
>>566439349> Faggot will ruin Surge tooToo late. Evan already did
>>566437869
>>566439829 (me)
>>566439349>implying surge wasn't shit to begin with
>>56643974506 definitely paints him as one
>>566439350Surge will never escape mobileshit
Sonic sez touch grass
>>566424481We really need more of him
Sonic sez touch your sister
>>566439829I actually own this thing. They changed it? Really? Wtf
>>566440312Ian hates heterosexual women.
>>566440312Yes. See >>566440028
That girl in middle school liked you and you didn't act on it. You could have spoken to her or something dude.
I came to Tangle and Whisper fucking Silver two times already today...
I love vagueposting
>>566439797Your opinion is bad and (You) should feel bad.
>>566440539love isn't real
>>566433640
>>566440539I already knew that.
Tttttttaaaaaaiiiiilllllsssss!!!!!
If Amy loving Sonic was that much of an issue for Ian he would've tried to get rid of it in Preboot Archie, but didn't and madw her kowtow Sonally and just hope that MAYBE she'll have a chance. But the moment Sally gets vaulted, suddenly Ian doesn't want Amy to love Sonic outright.
>>566440649You hate Sonic
>>566439810Yes!!
>>566440951No, I have the opposite problem.
>>566440539anon the girls in my class cornered me behind the school building and threatened me with violence if I ever sent anyone a valentines day card again
Can you get lost or talk about something else than fucking Amy? I'm bored of this topic, Amy fucking bores me.
Amy was still in love with Sonic while Sally wasn't. Explain this.
>>566440585Based.
>>566440932>But the moment Sally gets vaulted, suddenly Ian doesn't want Amy to love Sonic outright.I told it was malice. He hates Amy because Sally got vaulted so she tries to get Amy to stop loving Sonic as much as he can without getting in trouble
>>566441193They wanted (You) bad.
>>566441193Now you are strong enough to defend yourself
>>566441220You can try not replying and ignoring it. No one is obligated to do what you want.
>>566441341 (me)*told you
>>566441220>"We could sing 'American Pie'."
>>566441341That just doesn't sound right to me. But maybe I'm being too charitable.>>566441220>boreHer drill is the drill that will pierce the heavens!
Let's talk about how Sonic 2 is a great sequel
>>566440932>but didn't and madw her kowtow Sonally and just hope that MAYBE she'll have a chance.Which is wildly OoC. He did what he had to to keep her around and out of the way.
>>566441637Sonic 2 was my first Sonic game so I have a lot of love for it. I dunno what else can be said about it that hasn't already been said though.I love Mystic Cave and wish it came back instead of Chemical plant every time. No shade to ChemikinoPlant, it was my fave level, but we've been to it plenty at this point.
>>566441193You must’ve been a real creep to get that kind of response.
christmas cake blaze
No one is ready for the conversation that Ian was likely one of those people who thought Amy was a pyscho stalker who needed to be killed off back in the day.
>>566441637>New game>New levels>New awesome music>New spindash move>New awesome characters>Continuation of storyline>Cutscenes (sorta)We really had it all. That said, it would've been hard for 'em to fuck it up that badly desu.
BoC is more interesting and entertaining than IDW because each issue stands on its own as a story
>>566441220Fuck you
>>566441840Mystic Cave is awesome. I also really liked Hidden Palace in the remake, sadly it's just one act
>>566441637The soundtrack lives in my brain.
>>566442075>BoC??
>>566442075Yet no one talks about it unless is to shit on IDW. Without IDW, BoC would be more ignored.
>>566441940I actually don't think he was one of them. The way Amy is written in megadrive doesn't suggest that at all.
Remember that infamous Archie cover where Sonic was carrying Sally while running and Amy was seen in the background in surprise?There was literally NO REASON to put Amy there other than spite and mockery.
>>566440539Nah. I gotta go my own way.
>>566442075I like Geogaddi and Music Has The Right to Children. Tomorrow's Harvest not so much. But how are they related to Sonic?
>>566442061Well to be fair Sonic 2 doesn't really follow up on Sonic 1 all that much. Though there isn't much to follow up on in the first place, since Sonic 1's story is so basic. Everything else is true though especially point 5
>>566440539The girl in elementary said "ew," no girls ever really talked to me after that, and one of my friends in high school turned out to be gay and wanted to bone me.
Randomfox Duofag and Krack make this general unusable
I'm more hard-core than Surge. I vape straight battery acid.
>>566442367True dat.
>>566442472You hate Sonic.
>>566442492Why is he turning me on
>>566439201>Rush Adventure is better than Rush but people insist its not just because it doesn't have Naganuma beats.I played Rush Adventure enough to beat it and never really thought about it much after I put it down. I played Rush 1 so much that I'm surprised my DS survived. I played levels just to play them. Had a constant 99 lives on my save file. I genuinely don't think Rush Adventure was the better game.
>>566442329Nobody cares about your waifu.
>>566441637No other game from that era had my heart pounding faster than the way Death Egg Zone did
>>566442242Cope IDWnigger. Sonic is Japanese. The burgers at SoA will be rightfully muzzled and leashed in due time once Sega reclaims their sovereignty.
>>566441636I absolutely do not trust Ian Flynn. In a just world, the English dialogue of Frontiers would've been rewritten to be more similar to the Japanese version and the 35th anniversary book would've been recalled, corrected, and then reprinted. Screw Sonic Team for not putting a leash on Ian Flynn. Bunch of incompetent morons with no spine. I'd rather have Ken Pontac and Warren Graff back at this point since they wouldn't have tried to ruin Amy's character
>>566442492Did you know Tails was supposed to be inside Mecha Sonic at first? They scrapped the idea because it was too hard to incorporate into the story. I think it's for the best since Tails being absent during Death Egg makes it more tense since you don't know what happened to himI also like how bulky and clunky he is
>>566442540Fuck off already
>>566442609Ever notice how you're the one bringing up IDW rather than talk about Blade of Courage on its own terms? At this point, who is the one coping?
>>566438795>Jump sound Are you autistic?
I never played any Sonic game but rush and rush adventure, sue me
>>566442558Because (You) know what's coming next.>>566442608Always loved that last boss's music.
>>566442748Why do you hate Sonic?
>>566442795I'm sure that was a contributing factor to having such a memorable end game. Like "This is it". Were in uncharted territory now. The last thing standing between you and total victory
>>566442631Ian is just as vain as Penders but pretends to be humble for PR. He lets it slip, though. The way he talks is actually very conceited.
>>566440539>middle schoolThere was like one girl that might have flirted with me in middle school. It was highschool where I fucked up. I can think of 6 girls who were into me off the top of my head let alone the ones I was to stupid to notice.
>>566442764No, it's too high-pitched and hits the ear wrong. Same with the modern spring sound, they've ruined it by adding that stupid fuckin' "woosh" effect after the "bo-ing" noise. It really bugs me every time I have to use a spring in modern 3D Sonic games.Maybe a little.
You guys play Sonic games?
>>566440539Why not high school. Why middle school specifically, hmm could it be that... could it be that dropped it?
"you hate Sonic" you won't let anyone LIKE Sonic unless he's the "wind" which is just IDW crap
>>566442795Honestly I didn't like Death Egg robot, I felt the spikes collision was inconsistent and it just goes on for too long. Mecha Sonic was better
>>566443097Not since 2011
>>566442972>The way he talks is actually very conceited.You can notice this when he tries to absolve himself of guilt over his own bad writing by blaming the mandates.
>>566442941>No rings>No checkpoint>8 hits on Mecha>12 on EggmanTall order for a kid back then. I used to get so mad when I lost.
>>566443097Unfortunately yes.
I hate Sonic
>>566442607Yes, nobody cares about Sally except middle-aged diapershitters
>>566442764NTA but I hate it too.
>>566443097Sometimes. You?
>>566443097I played a few of them. I need to catch up on a LOT
>>566443134IDW is not Windnic. Fuck off
Is Death Egg like Death Star from star wars?
>>566443134When was IDW Sonic ever The Wind?
>>566443308BASEDEggman is the real hero
>>566443246Not to mention how Intimidating it was to fight an enemy THAT large. The weak points weren't even that obvious
RA RA RASPUTIN LOVER OF THE RUSSIAN QUEEN
>liking west garbage Sonic 2
>>566443308Bro, I love Archie too!
>>566443308Cigsfag...Woefag...
Can we have a lovely sonamy bake? :3
>>566443714You hate Sonic.
>>566443308You hate Sonic.
>>566443859KEK
>>566443714Sonic 2 was mostly made by the Japanese staff. All aspects that were done by western devs was scrubbed for the most part.
>i love BoCYou hate Sonic friends
>>566443791It's ooc, why do you want that
>>566443859Me on most right.The sooner the better.
>>566443859me on the right
>>566443951SoJ confirmed Sonic loves Amy you stupid westfag
>>566443097I played Pizza Tower when it released after playing sixty shitty Sonic games and I vowed to never again to try to play all the Sonic games. Since then I've only played Sonic 1 with an Amy mod.
>>566443859Why shouldn't we nuke Israel tho?
>>566444128Die westie
>>566442795I never actually beat Sonic 2 as a little man, so my first time hearing the final boss theme was in Generations. The song blew me away, it's a REALLY great track.
(You) love Silver
>>566443859You were really pissed about that post weren't you
Archiebros?!?!?!https://youtu.be/9y0qDXM38_U
>>566444128I didnt read a single word your post had, just wanted to say I want to fuck that cat(female).
If you hate Krack, Duofag or RandomFox, you hate Sonic and everything that the franchise represents.
>>566444314Not really, no
>NOOOOOOOO STOP INSULTING IDWlol
>>566444375>Duofag or RandomFox,Who?
Ummm bros? What happened to project reignited? It looks like they finished 6 whole zones and then just 0 updates since last September? I thought it would be done by now
Women will never know what it feels like to scratch and sniff your balls.
>>566444375I like Krack and Duofag. It's Sonic that I have a love-hate relationship with
>>566444375Keep name-dropping. That will surely fix the quality of this shitty general. Faggot
>>566442795I remember the first time I fought the thing and the music played. You immediately know its the final boss.it was intense.I remember how much I pogged when they revealed it was the boss for the classic era in gens. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4L4TSrDB4M
>>566444598How does it feel
>>566444612You understand Sonic
>>566440585||i think i might know which exact images you're referring to||
Why is Mania so bad compared to CD and 2?Is the westshit?
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>>566444882Lunar laughs at this.
>>566444832Mania is better than CD and Sonic 2 but less good than Sonic 3&K imo.
>>566444747If you're not a guy then it's impossible to explain. Freeing and powerful.
>>566444832How can Mania be bad when it gave 2D Tails the fluffiest Tails ever?
>>566445064
>>566444747Imagine a hamburger
>>566444598The testicles are some of the most sensitive parts of the human body. Scratching them can honestly feel amazing.
Wait until you guys find out Sonic is based on Western cartoons.
>>566445153AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH NIPNIGGERMAN SAVE ME
>>566445103Yummy
>>566445153Real fans hate that
>>566443218You can hear it any time he tries to justify anything he's done. Either it's someone else's fault he can't do something or it's your fault for not getting it.
>>566440729>love is just chemicals bro