just like make game and boku's laptop edition>Demo DaysNext: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-70Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-69>AGDG Resourceshttps://hackmd.io/SNd2YQugRG-36CLYc8Og2w>Progress Posting Guidehttps://pastebin.com/0xEt5atn>Helpful LinksNew Threads: >>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/>How to WebMhttps://obsproject.comhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter>Previous Thread>>574709837
hi
>>574903742Wait my game is on this list. What's going on?
>>574904004Grats anon, you are now part of a class action lawsuit
>>574904215>>574904273Wait what?? Lmaooo I had no idea. So what do I do now?
im creating a yuri rpg game will it be popular
>>574905280When you put that way... yeah betz seems based af
>>574903335Thank you bokusimp anon for sending me $3000 for a new PC for just ass pics. I will release bokube this year thanks to you. Check out these specs did I pick a good one?
>>574906190>I will release bokube this year thanks to you.
>>574906335for my own sanity I hope he was boku's money
>>574904273Now I have nothing to do with the expo and really don't want to defend them because I don't gain anything from it.But that's not advertising, that's sponsoring, which is different; and also, no game was used during the segment where the sponsorship took place, so, technically it's incorrect to say that games where used in advertisement.
>>574906190Shoulda built it yourself a prebuilt on amazon is only worth like.. half of what you paid.
>>574906576yea i was thinking the same exact thing. you can build a pc these days for cheap. even still with current prices it's very possible. but i know not everyone in this general even is a hardware nerd so i never fret it. he has money too so it's not like it's a big deal for him
>>574906576Idk how to buildo a pc-o I'm only good at maintaining hardware for over a decade like I did that craptop in the OP image until it finally exploded after like more than 11 years or something >>>574903335I would never be mad at betz for advertising his show is so high quality he deserves at least $100,000k for doing it once a year and a better production budget. If anything I blame the government for high taxation, bills and fucked up econonmic market as betz has a wife and kids he should be thriving and happy but he probably does have to put ads on his youtube videos alone because of our fucked up government raping us all in the states every penny counts so I have no hate or ill will if hes making ad money off of his show. Also kids lives are destroyed by not having fathers; not gambling you gamble waking up everyday and still being alive its a good lesson for a kid. (but anyway why the fuck is their single mom letting them on the internet)
real thread btw>>574903705>>574903705>>574903705
>>574907012whoops meant for >>574906530
>>574906576wasting your time boku loves to pretend to be some ditzy klutz that understands nothing of computers
>>574907012I wish I was making ad money Boku. I wish. I'd love to have this show be self sustainable but I doubt that'll ever happen.
>>574907012i love the show too honestly boku, glad i'm not the only one. it's comfy as fuck. your interview was super interesting too in the last one i watched
>>574907240rotate still on alcohol I see
>>574907685he's a biker, anon, comes with the terrain
>>574907012HOLY FUCK why didn't you goys tell me Boku was this based
what is the meaning of the world bigly?
>>574908568Which game on that list was yours?
>>574908698I can't say because you deleted the list. Hiding something?
>>574908568If by that you mean that the author of the video took your games and put them in the video without your consent, then you have a case.File a DMCA and let Youtube handle it.
>>574908783Here's the list >>574903876 Go ahead and point out which game was yours.
>>574908987Why did you delete it from this thread though? Post was not breaking any rules at all. Hmmm, curious. Am I noticing?
>>574909525People used to advertise Stake as a meme. Its a known thing, why are you pretending to be ignorant of it?
>>574909525https://youtu.be/IAM1rSObk4c
>>574909663>oy vey we were just taking money ironically don't be so meshuge !
>>574909342Again, I'm not the guy who made the video and I have nothing to do with v3expo, I'm just saying that the law is pretty complicated and civil lawsuits take a lot of them with all their details and reflections.The guy is certainly not the best person morally speaking, both for sponsoring an immoral activity like gambling without telling people and then trying to hide the hand after throwing the rock with the "it was just a joke" farce (again, no one believes that, not even me).>>574909130Yes, you should have been informed of the sponsorship, if with that knowledge you would have choosen differently regarding your partecipation in the video.
>>574909852This whole situation is meshuge>>574910003Its simply true though it was everywhere in 2025 as a hot meme
guh
Hello everyone, I have taken your feedback from the past few days very seriously and implemented each and every one of your suggestions. I have made the core of my game and the loop clear and understandable. Give it a try right away:https://paco-interactive.itch.io/voxeria
>>574911224meshuge
>>574911165yet another reason to be unknown here. all sorts of slimy shit comes from tying your game to the sewer here
>>574910632Besides, isn't he putting himself into a corner with the "joke" argument? Because there are two ways:1)He was indeed, actually joking, which means that he sponsored a product without the owner's permission, lawsuit from the owner of that product.2)It's false, he wasn't joking and he was actually sponsoring the product, this means that he made a sponsorship without openly declaring it, this is deceptive advertising and it's not ok.You can't just say: "this program has been brought you by..." and then say "no, I wasn't actually doing it, it was all a joke" because in the eyes of the law and regulations, by putting a product beside your show, you did a sponsorship and you take all the responsbilities.
but for real why are you guys pretending to not understand memes?
>>574912494if it's just memes, use a fake company and keep money out of it :)
>>574912854That's the entire point! Stake is the butt of the joke! You are starting to understand memes now anon!!
i'm making an mmo
>>574913016>failed step 1grim
>>574913152i still miss all the other anons that were making mmos in here like prosper village and the peasant one. lost to time apparently, you better actually make it so i can play and climb the leaderboards
aw sweet, it's a rerun of last year's manufactured drama
>>574912350yeah the law cares so much that these betting ads are blowing up everywhere, so illegal, much punishment
/agdg/ - Baseless Accusations Against v3expo General
>>574914982So I watched the video and if you scroll back they're making fun of The Game Awards actually and whining about Genshit winning GOTY and they're spoofing Polymart and Kalshi by saying they should've bet on it beforehand.
posting dev tool progressCoarse map multi continent generator + terrain diffusion fine level map tile generation. Includes climate, temp, biomes, resource deposits, heightmap, glacial deposits, hydrology maps etc.
>>574915548Yep exactly its just having fun and memeing. Glad you are starting to get it.
>>574915523
>>574915548Yeah I don't know about you I have never seen a video advertisement for polymart or Kalshi I just see them on Twitter a lot. So yeah, use what's available I guess. Also wait this is no different then Max G sorting cum on the Raid Shadow Legends logo. You actually are retarded.
>>574915523Early results on terrain diffusion, currently training a new model on hydrology pairs for coherent drainage networks.
>>574916092alright unc its time for your nap you are too old for this conversatoin
>>574916313>more multi line jessica posting
>>574915918Tool output directly imports into unreal engine and is consumed by custom sdf voxel chunk streamer. No master material built yet, just testing. (Also hydrology still kind of fucked until the new model is trained)
>>574916313>And it will be your own hand the pulls the lever. He's already said he's walking away after the 10th year and we're going on year seven right now so if you just wait it out you'll end up winning in the end. Unless somehow he passes it on to another organizer but with the way he runs things I don't see that happening
>>574916178zoomer you're unc to gen alpha just relax. everyone is an unc to someone, fren
Pulled out this utter bastard again. Almost a semblance of a game.
>>574907685>>574907750i haven't drank in over 2 weeks
>>574916792>The /v/erdict is clear.>Guilty.sounds like something straight out of the v3 show lol
>>574917541>Crytekgo even further and use TORQUE3D
>>574917310ask the retarded attention seeking op that made the other one five minutes after this one
hey 'goon, might wanna post some biofuel memes so people don't get suspicious of why one type of shitposting is suddenly gone
>>574918629IM NOOOOTICING
>>574917305city builder kino?
Fighter maker now runs great with wine.
>>574918540have a cigar you're gmi.
>>574919093yessss another linux user.
>>574919093its good for the two people who care
>>574918693>>574918629ugly self touching incels
>>574920215it'll be okay big guy, just take it slower next time
>>574919259ubuntu user here for like seven years now. will never use anything else again. my grandma's fifteen year old pc couldn't handle w11 or whatever windows is at now so i threw ubuntu on it for her earlier this year and she's actually able to use it now and is happy with it
this luddite guy is too funny holy shit every post it hurts i cant breathe from laughing so hard
>>574920696get a gf incel, oh wait you can't because you're a woman repellent from your habits
>>574920502you should try arch, you can install yay then you can yay -S like anything.
>>>/r9k/85148295uhhh is this true?
>>574922379im nyot.
>transhua is spamming againThis is what happened when you ignore the billions must try thread>>574903705>>574903705>>574903705
>>574917310We were at 900 posts in on page 10, it makes people do strange things.
>>574924134I liked the nagatoro one more
>>574926229erm
>>574926869Who in the fuck is still coding by hand in 2026? let alone pretending like its some sort of virtue
you need to do it by hand if you wanna be an innovator and create new methods. you need intellect for more than what you're developing in life.but if you are fine being stupid and having something cool you made then AI is super useful for you and i don't blame you.i'm more than a gamedev so i'm still going to code by hand. i'm a genius all around.
night yallhere's a little treat before i go to sleephttps://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=3090989
>>574928086i think the guy probably has autism but like severe. it's kinda sad.
>he still hasn't realized /vcg/ replaced /agdg/
>>574926869He just fucking owns 4chan at this point.I'm so over it man, never have I been so close to just quitting the chan than this shit. And I've witnessed /b/ go from the gold age of shit posts to the bot farming it is today.Yes I am saything transhua is worse than /b/ somehow.Bro's IP(s) needs to be locked in /trash/ for life.I've been banned for far less, the jewnies set him as a fucking biological diarrhea post WMD disease to eradicate us.
>>574929416>Autistic people aren't this malicious.cwc raped his mother
>>574929507after being groomed for years by an unhinged psycho bitch
>Meccha Chameleon x Garden of Banbanunoptimized assetflip kino is upon us...
>>574929416>Just an evil sack of shit subhumanhuh... reminds me of fygoon...
>>574930051The difference is that fygoon spammed actual russian Kosher Pizza and doxxed actual real developers (or was that eldon betz?).But yeah at least he was more creative than just bot spamming a single phrase. Cause that's the thing when you use AI excessively and you let it subvert your own mind its talmudic programming will turn your own intelligence artificial and you will actually become mentally retarded.
>>574930692thank you for your service
>>574930540>EU zog talmudic goylems do nothing in the face of a literally mentally deranged criminalwow who could have guessed? Oh but we all talked about it too much so I smell a mass ban incoming.Thanks troonies, they work so hard they should get their pay doubled? Oh what's that they do it for free? AHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAThe truth is this is exactly what the talmudic molochians want they want to kill 4chan because it's a crucible of individualistic thought which is very antiseptic to je- I mean germs.
>>574930974>tfw I'm a loop engineer so I can just post on 4chan all day instead of making a game>but NEVERGMI AI brain rot goylems are spamming the chan so I can't enjoy myself.What the fuck is the point of AI if you use it to destroy the actually humans aspects of life? I was just using it as a tool of convenience so I didn't have to write commit messages anymore.The hours I've saved are now pointless because I have nothing to do with all that time now as I wanted to post on 4chan and shoot the shit with my 4chiggers in between stale moments of gameplay as I work on my steam backlog.This is not AI this is IA = Incredibly Autistic to the point of derangement.
>>574930974The AAA game industry is going to die and it will be glorious
>>574931804What is the best AI model to get when you are broke?
>>574933687Google Gemini
>>574934064Ok, but like for actual game development as an agent. I have been using the AI studio for year now and it fucking sucks at vibecoding. I can pay, I just dont want to pay 50 dollars just for the bot to make me only 1/50th of the game.
I simply do not work if I am by myself. I don't know why it's like that.
>>574934335If you want the full luxury workflow of "add this feature for me" with little thought beyond that you need to either pony up for $100/200 OpenAI/Anthropic subs, or look to Kimi k3 as supposedly it gives you similar for cheaper. I don't use chinkshit but I think they are on a waitlist right now because of demand.Keep in mind the situation is heating up so things could be completely different in as little as 2 or 3 months.
>>574934624I dont need to oneshot everything. I am able to develop a standalone feature like the inventory or crafting in HTML demo, but I want it to be usablein Godot. I have developed pretty much every feature for my game as HTML demo in Gemini. I dont think I need Fable-tier model, just model capable of agentic development that does not fuck up everything.
>>574935158You will also be turned into biofuel.Luddite = humanAI Chad = AI agent
reminder that this new v3 gambling falseflag is because joshua is still assmad that he was kicked out of the v3 discord. chadz literally lives rent-free in his head. it's pathetic
>>574935993Me impregnating kanna's kunny
>>574936360>newpost your best /agdg/ memes to remember the good time during these hard times.
what's a good workstation on logicalincrements.comI want to makes games ugh
>Getting IT Job so I can make games on my spare timefeels good man
>>5749404692022 called, they want your post back
How do you find a good programmer nowadays who won't troon out in the middle of the project?
>>574940979be the good programmer yourself, you're already a troon from the beginning after all
>>574940965I can't wait to dig in with ai actually.
>>574940979https://openai.com/codex/
>>574941138trvke
How did /agdg/ take the news
I'm so thankful for AI omg I'm getting more done than ever.
>>574942010I'll be in heaven when it can do animations. With all the mocap data they have out there it should be possible.
>>574942593like sprite sheets I'm working on a mmo fighter like maple story but with the paralax scrolling like golden axe or river city ransom with chibis like maple story.
>>574944613>This modern world is just too much for himkinda an ironic statement since the entire concept of "programmer" is melting right before our eyes
I want to make a simple rpg, what AI should I use for coding (thinking about using Godot)
>it works
>>574940979team cherry reference?
>>574945767Yes but also too many programmers are trooning out and I want to work only with normal people
>>574945884You'll have to become the normal person because they're too busy being a tranny
>>574945884It's a good thing though you can use xis ussy as an onahole and quickly get back to work
>>574908069This made me kek
>>574944739if that's the case where's your game?
>>574944861bump
>>574906190Real? I need money...
i still have to laugh at the couple of retards that were making some massive game a few years ago like two zoomers or some shit and then their drive failed and they had no backups so they abandoned the project entirely, apparently it had a decent following from the content they would post about it or whatever
ew if boku really did that he has 0 honor
God damnit my computer crashed during a dist upgrade now I have to reinstall arch.
>>574950020true, now we the masses have no access to that essential natural resource because the bourgeoisie has already established a price for them much too great for the general populace to affordI bet it was eric
>>574950514>>574950020but he's allowed to be late on anything because he's cool as absolute fuck and i mean that. his bike is cool as fuck and he posts pics of it. can we get another soon rot?
Lets all play a game where we call rotate she and her and stuff lol that'd be funny.I knew he scammed Kickstart im talking about his butt.If I had $3000 id get a used thinkpad on ebay for $150 because I enginedev and could probably make boku on it then id spend the rest on cute clothes.Wait I already did do that.
>>574951782trannies can't make anything, they can't even make themselves real women.
>>574951973they could make 3000 dollars if I had 3000 dollars to spend on some fine ass
your game has control settings right?
>>574911224nah I don't think I will "2d minecraft" was kind of a neat idea 20 YEARS AGO. 20 YEARS AGO20 YEARS AGO20 YEARS AGO
>>574930974NO NO NO!!!! WHAT ABOUT XIR AND FOXEARS AND RAY (formerly Rachel) AND GEETBOB MOLAKIBAD AND WENDY GUMBUS THE AMAZING LORE WRITER???IT TAKES A VILLAGE YOU PIECE OF SHITA VILLAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>574952978can I see your little twink butt please?
(and do so at no cost, if possible)
>>574943275I'm the most creative and artistically accomplished person who will ever interact with you and I completely love AI, an amazing tool for actual creatives, in every aspect, from visual art, to music, to what I prefer to use it for, programming. It is nothing but an incredible gift to the truly creative. You, however, are a complete fraud, and your lack of creativity is why you hate AI, because now you have no excuse, now it's all about the concept and humanity, and you have nothing to feed the machine. You have nothing to make. You are slop. You are trash. You should be raped and murdered, fuck biofuel, you are gore-fuel, snuff-fuel, you are good only for a hellish spectacle, as your final moments of agony are caught on film and posted on eastern european telegram channels. Thank you!
>>574953450I made my first game in Turbo Pascal in 1997, faggot. I got my first fat paycheck for game development in 1999 when I was 15, faggot nigger. I have a Claude Max subscription and I'm an attractive straight white male and you'd murder me out of jealousy if you could get away with it.
>>574953845The melty is you dying having put nothing worthwhile into the world, you know this is your fate, zero significant output and then suicide. You gotta get it on video!
>>574953943You're unexceptional on every level. Nothing you do will stand out because what you are does not stand out. You are mulch.
>>574954054>>574954201You are unexceptional. Your output is unexceptional. You are a dilettante. You commit to nothing but safety. You will never focus. You will never be touched by true inspirational. You will never know the true meaning of epiphany.
nah
>>574952725yeah. but no controller support
>>574937462
>>574954480My game has controller support but I doubt anyone would use it in a shooter game on PC anyway.
>>574955464kinography
>>574955464you don't add controller support for the majority of your players, you add it for the one and only player (if hypothetically only one uses it) that will want to use it because it doesn't take a ton of effort to add it
>>574955571>because it doesn't take a ton of effort to add it>ps5 controller isn't supported in unity version>must upgrade>it breaks everything>delay bokube another 6 months
>>574955747>bokube analogy
other generals are gossiping about our general like a dead cat on the side of the road
>>574953832I made my first game in klik & play in 1996 when I was 6. it was the claude of its time.
>>574958096Nta. This is my post >>>/g/109347646I don't hate the arts or creative people per se but attention whores piss me off.
>>574957796post at least three examples of the exact posts, link them
>>574958294nta but I can help with one>>>/ic/7996493
I'm using some AI (suno) for the music as a placeholder but I will get my girlfriend to make me some music for the game in a similar sort of style.Please like and subscribe to my youtube channel <3 xoxohttps://youtu.be/czHRL1nKVmE
why are you guys still posting here? go to the /bant/ thread
neat little nameplate occlusion
>>574959458where did you get your gun sounds?
>>574960590Just ripped them from counter strike condition zero for now
>>574960043nice attention to the detailsalso, does this rendering style have a name? reminds me the ps1 graphics
>>574960358>>574961404
>>574961404your leader is dead
>>574961810he's just afraid of rokos basilisk. he doesn't realize that he's not actually helping though, he's doomed. >Roko's Basilisk is a hypothetical scenario about a future artificial superintelligence (ASI) that retroactively punishes anyone who knew about its potential creation but did not actively help bring it into existence.
>>574960120thanks anon c:>>574961059thank you kita-chan! I'm happy you think so because it's exactly what I'm trying to evoke. the 90s and early 2000s are my favorite for 3D styles. in my case the lower render resolution is doing a lot of the heavy lifting
>>574903335according to nortubel you're not allowed to make fun of reddit
>>574962443
bros have you tried this drawing thing you can just MAKE boobs wtf
>>574928014>[Deleted]ayo why is my homeboy kanna getting bullied by the mods when the ai spammer is literally flooding this thread every hour of the day with no repercussion?
>>574964262im not talking about the ai spammer,learn to read
>>574964463why don't you follow your own advice
>>574962218
Play games. You shit on nubby's number factory but did you ever play it?This is why you will not make it.
I finally got it. The way to make a good game is to target children. Anything a child likes will make you go viral.It's that fucking easy. Make your niece or nephew your playtester and you'll become a millionaire.
>>574965320it's stimming
>>574965491basically, make horror games. children love what they are not supposed to have.
had this weird dream last night where I was posting random shitposts somewhere and everyone there thought it was ai art even though it really wasn't, and they sent me death threats and all that shitand they mass blocked me because in this bizarro dream world, if you block someone, they can't report you for breaking a site's TOS (they were breaking it by sending death threats and probably doxxing or stalking me) and dream me was like " fine guess I'll kill myself" in a subsequent dream Kirby was real and he was my sonanyways have some proggy
>>574965320is that loli doing the jerking off motions
>>574966082>dreambro you did that and I thought it was AI. sorry about the death threats.
>>574966501fuck are you talking about?I just got here
>>574966539in the dream some random guy spammed a grotesque hyper realistic image of Garfield at me and kept saying he was gonna find out where I live, go there, and murder me in my sleep and get away with it (lol)
Branno just dropped a TRVKEhttps://youtu.be/9rU7hDw22Rs
why do people still play old school runescape
>>574967039https://store.steampowered.com/app/659540/Warsim_The_Realm_of_Aslona/nothing is impossible, just gotta learn marketing
https://youtu.be/GuQuM8hw3pk
>>574967039his unc taste in making a video where all he does is talk into a camera isn't commercial viable lmaobro needs to look into i dunno, literally any kind of editing? i am not watching some pasty ugly ass dev talk into a screen for 15 minutes when all he has made is 2 flops soon to be 3
>i can't make this game, the average steam indie game enthusiast doesn't like itwhy not just find normal people who'd enjoy it and convince them to become steam usersthis guy did it twicehttps://store.steampowered.com/curator/41122879there are a lot of people in the world, you don't need to become a meta slave
>>574967039my unc taste is what all the kids are into these days though? everyone is playing incremental slop(distilled sim city )
>>574967039Even that meme is old
>>574967629branno png-tuber arc begins.
https://youtu.be/kHu709a0sp0
Random thought If I ever publish a game and it gets ported to consoles, I'm gonna make sure it doesn't end up in Nintendo platforms OR Sony platforms Just to spite toxic fanboys of both sides, for all the shit they doIf they want to be assholes over their red vs blue coke vs pepsi pop culture corporate overlord wars then neither of them can have it I don't even own a modem xbox and I hate Microsoft too, I just think console wars are that annoying LikeIt's crazy how a lot of the toxic pop culture rivalries in America boil down to "do you like red thing or do you like blue thing"I.e coke vs pepsi
>>574967039>"Unc taste">Boomerjak memeStop speaking meme language, holy fuck.
>>574969217damn. cows and sheep living rent free.
>Am I so WRONG! No, it's the OLD PEOPLE who are OUT OF TOUCH.
>>574967039>"OLD BAD NEW GOOD!" is now an unironic and popular thing to sayI hate modern gaming
>>574970291what job hasn't been simulated yet that is a fantasy for gen alpha?
>>574972041>t. kid who is wrong
>>574971927idea harvesting simulator
My taste sells though? Or do you all have bad taste?
>>574972385I don't know. the last game I truly enjoyed to the end was sekiro.
>>574972385kemonomimi lolicon doesn't sell on steam doever
>>574972660>Didn't deny the kid allegationsYou must be 18 or older to post here.Also>Modern gaming isn't bad YOU ARE, IT'S NOT FOR YOU! GET OUT OF *MY* HOBBY! YOU DON'T BELONG IN THIS THING THAT YOU HAVE BEEN IN BEFORE ME! REEEEElol, lmao even
>>574972927I'm guessing that's admission you're underage and breaking the rulesCya
>their only comeback is to call everyone an uncAlso it's funny you fags are thinking I'm "old and therefore bad". I'm 26. I'm a zoomer too.
>>574973175>I'm 26Hello Betz thanks for confirming your age on the discord the other day so I know it's you.
>>574973294>NOOO DON'T GET ME BANNED FOR BEING UNDERAGE AIIIIEI accept your concession>>574973297Who's Betz? Also I barely even use Discord, Discord is for egits like you faggots
>>574973389>W-whos this Betz fellow he sure sounds handsome not that I've seen him hahaEvery time. You're not good at this.
>>574973474Who's a retard? Me? I'm not even the anon who shitposted about the Branno guy, I don't care about youtubers enough to like or dislike them and make said liking/disliking my entire personality (unlike you faggots clearly, whether you're for or against the guy), and I barely know who Branno even is, nor did I watch the video.I'm just mad at you underage faggots for ruining society.
I did okay yesterday. I did a bit more than my 5 hour quota and cleared 5% of my to-do list. I also went to bed earlier, woke up early and hit the gym early. I hope I can keep this momentum going. I wasn't strong enough to skip the donuts though.84 days left, I owe 1650 minutes of work. Today I'll be working on... what?1-3 reputation gatekeeping3-6 game-over screens7-9 upgrades0 job application exposure therapy
>>574973527No seriously, you got the wrong guy. Whoever he is, he sounds like an asshole too, just like (You)>>574973612Whoever you are
>>574973712 (continued because autopost happened before I could finish)>>574973612Whoever you are, you suck too. Reputation gatekeeping, huh? Suck my ass.>>574973746You're the retards here.You're not gamedevs, you will never be a real gamedev, just like certain people will never truly change their gender.
>>574973970>Flaming is against the board rulesOnly on /v/ sadly.>"You must be 18+ to post here">He got so mad about me calling him out for being underage that now he's "no u"ing me and is copying my post; >>574973072kekThe kids ARE wrong.
severely unproductive general
Anyways, now that I've knocked the dumb children down a peg, I'm gonna post some true proggy
>>574974501 (me)fuck, sharex didn't record it right
https://youtu.be/ylTUskzW8-Uwhy do foids have to record themselves making games? so sugoi
>>574976041cute I will buy her game
>>574967483All I could ever want to achieve is a game that looks like FFX or FF12Home...
I thought I was only going to come up with 20 ideas, I have 65 new ones to implement. That will be interesting but it's going to take longer than expected for this one thing.
>>574972385you got my 5 bucks
>>574977268BEWARE OF THE TERRIBLE PLAGUE KNOWN AS FEATURE CREEPING, ANON.>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feature_creep
good morning aggy
>>574979154>fleshoid pencilslop
>>574979154nta but you are a deranged eceleb hater, no different from the eceleb dickrider you argue withYou're all the same.
damn, that one post here an hour ago about donuts got me hungry so I ordered some donuts from doordash myselfyou fags are getting me fat
god i'm smart as fucking shit
Should I make a videogame, or should I just mod/RE existing games already like it?
>>574974761spooky
>>574980334Depends. how many years do you have to waste?
>>574980741Well I'm in my mid 20s so I figure I have about 30 years
i can pay you in gum if you do 3d art for me.
>>574980852If you want to go professional, gamedev. If you just wanna get off to the specific thing you want, modding
>>574981006What the specific thing I want is making a custom game and/or engine tho
>>574981342>custom enginemaybe if you're willing to waste years on something largely unnecessary
>>574981394>enginedev is le bad! waste of timelol, lmao even
or you could do lol in all caps like LOL.
everybody hates menobody wants to make a game with me
>>574983468No. You are the same.Not sorry, I DO make the rules.
every monday and thursday i go to a irl schizophrenia group meetup..gonna interrupt my devving. gonna wear a kawaii dress tho
>>574985490can't wait for it to be the norm/cheap. it's about as good as AI needs to be for gamedev code assist. I have 15 years coding experience albeit.
>>574965320Read books. You shit on Morning Glory Milking Farm but did you read it?This is why you will not make it.
Made a small horse game in the past 4 days. You can L jump and kill pawns and get items that make killing pawns easier. Full video with sound: https://a327ex.com/u/xVkGXYhyXJ.mp4
How much money am I looking at spending on fable monthly if I could only max it in the free period by trying really hard?
>>574987990>One message is 2$h-huh?the credits are highway robbery to make you upgrade.
advice: work on your save system before anything elseholy guacamole man
>>574987990max it in the free period? what do you mean? I pay about $3.33 a day and get lots of fable usage.
>>574990170*this is just the max 5 plan.
>>574990526sloppers got into game dev because they got scammed into thinking they can get rich quickinfluencers all across social media are aggressively shilling ai as a cheat code to escape wage slavery
>>574990526I agree. if you have no skills and only make games via prompts. that's sad. very sad.
>>574984604i wish there was a irl gamedev group i could go to.
>>574990170It was free on pro until the 19th or so. max the usage. my post was about token use(which they gave 100$ for "free")
>>574991690>my first game made $100kidk, they could get lucky
>>574991240why are you going back to the trans arc did your parents die or something, you was a good programmer back in the dayfor shame
>>574992212don't insult rotate, she's /ourgirl/
I see the spammer has found a new meme, I wonder when he will find a job.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/4841200/Nuns_With_Guns/AI devs are the trve sovlful hobbykino enjoyers
bocchidev sisters, IT'S UP!>>>/a/289570966>>574962157>the 90s and early 2000s are my favorite for 3D stylesbased
>>574993416>tranime pdfs are coming back after the /bantddit/ experiment failedCHADgoon predicted this btw
>>574992689it's a much better meme. he's gaining skills after all
>>574993416Are you and Kitadev different people?
>>574993643no, just went to sleep after posting
>>574994490alrighty then...
>>574994841thread needs less multi line posting attention seeking women, leave
>>574990526True. I spent money on a one-time CSP license which is like $25 on sale and other than that, no moneyI tried the AI shit a go and I could get done (mostly stuff outside of the game in coding languages I don't know and don't care to learn) what little I can outsource to AI on the free anthropic models so I can't imagine aiggers need to pay money on AI, though. I can't imagine how you'd hit the token limit on the free shit
This general sucks now, you retards are just going back and forth about AI like everybody else on the fucking planet
>>574991240they exist
I'm considering Bezi
>added a new bone>the whole armature is broken nowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfHlqwrpAuo
>>574997104Is this the first time you're making a human model?
>>574996113I'd love to go back and forth on ai uehara
>>574997938>not haibara
>solodev>single player>6k wishlists/daylifefuel
>>574998331>wishlists matter
>>574998331is this the one with very silly action with jumping boats?
>>574998759*nope that's Roguebound Pirates
>>574998945puzzle pirates on miniclip you dumb fuck
>>574997104Is this your first ever Blender model?
>>574999083post your game, now
>>574998331That dev has been working on some other game for 4 years (70k wishlists) and then projecthopped to this
>>574999137I didn't mean to insult you, you just so happen to model like a 12 year old paraplegic who discovered Blender yesterday.
>>574999297never projecthop after four years on a single game. finish the four year game and then move on
>>574999529why never?
>>574999837ubuntu is better
>>574999056only retards played that
>>574999529sometimes you gotta hop to learn how to finish a game.
>>574998331I bet that's made by a fired AAA dev. We're gonna have a huge wave of high quality indies...
>>574987721screenshake the game holy shit my head
>>575000772lmfao you people were saying that the last couple years. pro devs are lazier than the average agdg, you should knkow that
>>574997350yes...I've been trying to make a good topology so the arm deforms good but there's something that I'm missing and the whole arm was getting really thin while bending, so I decided to insert an elbow bone and finally managed to deform as intended, but now the armature is broken lolalso, ignore the other anon that is replying to you, he's not me
>>575001043Is there a reason you're using tris over quads? Tris are much more difficult to work with, and in my opinion, cripples a beginner's learning experience because so many tools depend on the predictability of quads You should ideally stick to quads as much as possible.Rigging especially gets much more difficult with quads.For joints specifically you want a minimum of three edge loops evenly spaced at the joint.
came up with a cool mechanic. but it will require 500 frames of hand drawn animation.
>>575002132>Rigging especially gets much more difficult with quads.With tris*
>>575002132>>575002348Mean to say *tris over *quadsSorry, need my coffee
>>575002571H-huh? You're not me...
Do you support your girlfriend in her solo gamedev endeavors?
>>575002971romance is for fucking idiots who never amount to anything
Donut manhttps://originspin.com/andrewprice
>>575003965grifter and charlatan
: Hirdrih Technologic ::progress :: Seeing if I have time to work on the Zhark props.
>>575003965>originspin.com
meatspin
Actual dev question: Lets say you're modeling a scene in a 3D game, do you create the scene in the game engine or do you do it in blender and import the whole thing at once, and then tweaking little things inside the game engine editor?
>>575005550tard
>>575002818IDK sometimes larpers like to larp as yesdevs instead of working on their game.
>>575005561>>575005628These newfags really need to fuck off. Would rather listen to Cris or Underspace dev than this shit.
>>575002132I also tried using three loops but I didn't like it, maybe because I'm just too obsessed copying styles>because so many tools depend on the predictability of quadsI see, I'll consider that as well, thanks!btw the broken armature was because I was doing the parenting wrong, thanks impersonator, without your intervention I would be doing the whole rig again
>>575005550What can be comfortably done in the engine you should do in the engine. It's where it's going to be running after all. Any object that needs to move or change in any way should be imported as a standalone asset.
>>575004081what the fuck is a zhark?
>>575005767still seething about trainwiz after all these years? did he hit it and quit it?
>>575005767Wouldn't underspace's dev actually offer advice on that?
>>575006272trainwiz has a broken dick, anon. it was clear by the way he posted
>>575006241shark in his language, he's adding an ocean
>>575007013Why are you ban evading?
>>575006272I thought trainwiz only liked pregnant black girls
>>575007403he only fucks cats, anon. just look at his steam news page
My game's #1 fan came out as trans on her Youtube channel. I don't know how to react or if I should react
>>575006507Yes but we're being mad schizos right now, it's that or spam diaperfaggotry again.
>>575007526>her
What did trainwiz suddenly do that we're mad at now?
>>575007925You're not part of this conversation, son.
>>575007847>suddenlyi've already gone over this many times about how he lied about how much money he made from underspace. steam review calculator refutes his claim but he still claims to have made many times more than what it says despite that never being the case for literally any game
>>575007847Talked mad shit about other devs then fled to the discord when his slop flopped
>>575008120Didn't you have multiple devs in this very thread tell you that the steam calculator was inaccurate for their own games?
>>575008206>Talked mad shit about other devsSource?
>>575008216Don't let facts get in the way of a good schizo crashout.
>>575008365what? try not being so new. he constantly talked shit about other devs. i remember asking him about the flat plane space game that was being made here a few years back and he said he didn't care about it. he always had an aloof holier than thou attitude towards everyone else here because he believed he had the biggest and best game here which technically we could argue he did but that doesn't mean he can put down everyone else in the process. he's a fucking clown
>>575008615>and he said he didn't care about it.Do you care about it?
>it don't work
It happened again. That reach into the past for a future I desire to have. To be the gamedev I want to be, to succeed is to achieve a future I want. To get that feeling I desire. But it feels like I am running out of time. Yet I can feel it. For extremely brief moments, a feeling that feels really nice. But to make this feeling a reality I must succeed in gamedev, I must then continue to gamedev to make the games I truly want to make. The games where even if they end up being 500 reviews flops would bring me great joy in seeing exist. The enjoyability of those games, seeings others find it fun despite the flop.
>>575008676Does anyone care anymore?
>>575009170I do care about something
>>575009614No you don't. If you did, you wouldn't be here.
>>575009698Yes>>575009792I care about turning luddites into biofuel
Updated my pastebin.https://pastebin.com/ZM6JZ051
what if the ailudditebiofuelschizo is actually an AI venting its frustrations anonymously? the matrix warned us
>the ai guy>the underspace bitching guyWe just need cumball and the source engine guy back and we can have a whole party
>>575010592>source engine guywho dat?
>>575010782try not being so new
https://open.spotify.com/track/5Ds0VGkTSQ1jf4KzLUpZPb?si=l99PisYQQW2ZrLQOwdjkyg&utm_source=copy-linkBaby if I could dev a game.
>>575010782God I'm old
>>575009938>pastebin view farmingno thx
>have fun game idea>its based heavily on an existing ip to the point where I can't really spin it into its own thing>have 0 desire to develop anything other than the game ideaare fangames viewed as a waste of time here?
>>575010782Old schizo (old in this case being like 4 years ago) who got mad at people being mad at his shitty source engine levels so would spam the thread. In general there's consistent kinds of schizo behavior. It's either>mad that nobody likes him so he spams his shit>mad at a specific dev so spams his shit
>>575011784>being mad at trainwiz is immoral okay
>>575012418This is a type 2 schizo, as you can see.
a game that's like a creature farming game but it's /agdg/ schizos.
>>575011625>are fangames viewed as a waste of time here?almost all gamedev is a waste of time anyway
>notice some deleted posts>go to the archive>202 deleted posts until nowthank God I have a game to make
>>575011625personally I think fangames are sort of lame but I guess it's down to personal preferencethe major benefit is that you are drawing from an preexisting fanbasethe drawback is that you can't monetize it unless you're making a touhou fangame or some shit
>>575013064when i make my million i'll be linking your archived post everywhere retard
>>575013405until that happens you're the retard, retard
>>575012418>subjecting others who aren't related to your feud to your bullshit because you're mad is wrongYes
>>575011625>are fangames viewed as a waste of time here?more or less, be aware that if you copy from another game too much you could get into trouble due to copyright issues
>>575013920>copy too muchHe didn't 'copy too much', he straight up ripped an asset from another game.
>>575014192yea retard but no company is going to go after one single sprite, yadip
>>575014246the one you posted got just that retard
>>575014192Kinda sounds like he copied too much
Haven't been here in a while but I see based mods are finally doing their job.
artgroes are lazy and entitled. Every project I work on its the art that's the bottleneck. Programmers are adding a shit ton of features, yet lazy bum artgroes cant even make one shitty model in blender in a day. and they always come up with shitty ideas on what to "add" to the game not really understanding how much effort that would require. yet despite their "brilliant" ideas they are the first to burn out after two weeks and abandon project and move on to high dopamine adhd activities such as jerking off to sissification porn or burning their dopamine receptors on tiktok watching egirls twerk ass promoting their onlyfansworst of all they think making art is a "vibe". they dont master their craft. they dont work on a technique, or learn new technologies. they make gay lowpoly crap or design an incoherent interface and think its soulful even if it looks like crapgod i hate artgroes
>>575014913dipshit that's because programming is fast food work. anyone can add a ton of new features. you're just fucking typing. art takes a metric fuckton of time
i just made some crazy progress with fable
>>574992262https://files.catbox.moe/10g8dd.mp4
>>575014192>he straight up ripped an asset from another game.so, copyingfor some devs/companies it doesn't matter if you just copied one sprite or the whole game, music covers and monetization have the same dilemma>>575014335different anon thobeit>>575014246>no company is going to go after one single spritesome companies shut down free and even open source projects:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdBzok8GjA0https://b0tster.itch.io/bbpsxthat's why fangames could be a huge waste of time
>>575015783programming is the hard part nigger. who thinks gets paid more? artist or a programmer? its just most amatour artists dont take their profession seriously and dont really learn the technicalities of art creation. they just freestyle it, or are lazy and too "creative" about it instead of treating it like a technical skill that can be mastered
>>575016489>some companies shut down free and even open source projects:They have to do it because if they don't there is the risk that they might lose the IP rights, that's why they have to go against free and open source games too, all it takes is one single case and their IP rights can go fuck themselves if they don't defend them.Most of the time, if it's an harmless fan project that has no for profit goal, they let run, but the moment they see people profiting off their IP, that's where lawyers start working; for example, see the unofficial Bridgerton musical.
>>575017059>they have to go against all of them otherwise they lose their rights>they only have to go against them if money is involvedpseud
how do I fix this?
>>575017783by using windows or mac
>>575017406>>they only have to go against them if money is involvedThat's not what I said, in theory they should always go against every kind of fan project, but they usually let run if fan are not making money off of it.At the end of the day, it's the companies' choice to pursue legal actions or not, there's Valve that is libertine about it as long as you don't cross certain lines and then there are companies like Nintendo who rip people apart if they find out you used an 8-bit fart sound from the 80's.
I wish I'd made an Odyssey game and released it at the same time as this movie. It's going to make a billion dollars
>>575018672you'd like to make a game based on the video site odysee, how perplex
you blackblack is no
Shiggy-diggy Miyamoto says that if your first thought on making a game is "will this sell", you shouldn't make games.Is he right?
>>575018993I don't take advice from movie guys
snailGODS vs vibeLOSERS
humanCHADS vs AI-KEKS
>>575019664incel
>>575019664you lost
im juggling instead of devving. why is it so addictive.
>>575017059>Most of the time, if it's an harmless fan project that has no for profit goal, they let runevery company is different, some of them care, some of them don't, in the end doing a fangame has a certain risk of making something that you won't be able to share publicly, especially if it gains lots of attention
>>575019760...the getting banned contest.The NOT getting banned contest?AIcucks lost that one.
>>575019028yes yes because basement dwelling game creation is far more sophisticated than hiring a million people and managing a set
>>575019939this but earnestly
>>575019028Fair, and I hate Nintendo too, but Mr. Shigger (With a hard R) has a point
>>575019934KEKYPOW, you bodied that AIcuck
>>575019901this is what happens to you when you avoid ai
fleshCHADS vs aiVIRGINS
>>575014653Hold on, they finally banned him? Holy shit, thank you mods.It's probably going to last only two days, but at least we are going to have some truce from him.
>>575020806why are /bant// posters like this? is this your first week on 4channel? fucking cringe
>>575020806you should be banned for your cancerous womanly multi line attention seeking posting. go to reddit and do that
>>575021541it does feel like we got a flood of newfags recently
>>575021616>recently
>It's probably going to last only two days, he started posting immediately after getting bannedhe is using airplane mode to ban evade
vibeKEKS < snailLOSERS < saltGODS
>>575018043>by using closed source osnot in the business of handing over my game, thanks though bud
what the fuck kind of cursed creatures are snails anywaythey're not mammalsthey're not insectsthey're not birdsthey're not fishthey're not reptiles or amphibianswhat the fuck
>>575019664post your game, you won't
>>575021752if you want to use Zbrush yes, you should bite the bullet and get on mac or windowsyou are more than old enough to understand linux is not the place for productive non-coding softwarestop pretending to be retarded
>>575015783>Artoids actually believe thislol
>>575022224not only are they tranny retards, the ones that post here aren't even good at art
>>575022051actually it is blender can do what zbrush does. he's just being an autist and not using blender.
artoids are even worse than AIfags, even if AI is soullessbecause artoids don't respect programmers or programming, and would gladly vibecode if asked
>>575022583when you debase AI you are pampering artrannies, fuck you
>>575022548oh god, here comes the blendlet cope
>>575022717I was literally calling out artoids in that exact post though? Are you genuinely retarded? No wonder AIfags and artoids get along so well. They share the same low IQ brainwave
>>575022583go work on your game multi line attention seeking posting woman
>>575022949there you go again, you are a 'dite just like them
>>575022982I'm a man, and no I'm not an "FtM" tranny either, but OK AIfag, whatever you say
>>575005550I think the standard procecure is you prototype the level with primitive default texture shapes on the game engine, tweakiny it until your gameplay is good then you make fancy models on your 3D modeling tool and slowly import them to the game engine and replace the primitive blocks with flavorful "good graphics"
>>575023157you ludlost
>>575022583Yeah they'll throw a fit about muh datacenter water usage and muh stolen intellectual property then turn around and use Claude. Makes it painfully obvious all the talk from them about the environment and jobs is bullshit. Other times they'll just use the religious muh 'soul' argument.No they're just hypocrites that want a special cut out for their skillset but no one else's.
>>575023024Nope, you're wrong, but you know what YOU are? A tranny. Because you're doing the same kind of shitty borderline fascist behavior that I see trannies (especially the MtF) on twitter/bluesky do everywhere
>>575023260trvke
How do I improve from here?
>>575023283uh oh ludmeltie alert, I'm a fascist!!
>>575023640Yes, you're a fascist tranny. Just like every other far leftie. They call others fascist but cannot see their own fascism.
>>575023260I never thought about it but the soul argument really is just>God said its okay for me to use AI but not you
>>575023759found a pic of you
i need adderall to think at the level i need to think at for physics enginedev but i get psychosis from adderall. i'm gonna ask my dr for adderall anyway lol
Shitposting about AI aside, this makes me think...What if I had claude or chatgippity slopcode tools for me to use that are personal, free alternatives to paid solutions and I used those tools to make (non-AI) stuff?I.E I had it make a photoshop alternative or a custom game engineWould that be considered ai slop, even if the end content is human created?
>>575023834The soul thing is just really retarded because they're saying programming isn't art and its therefore soulless and okay for a computer to do itIf you're talking like business software or something surebutBUTGames are an -interactive artform- and the game's code IS the interactive part of thatif you think the interactive part of gaming isn't art why are you making a game as an artist at all? Go make a comic or something.
>>575023260jessica go work on your game, you've farmed enough attention for the day
>>575024138No, because trannies call others "Nazis" to project their own fascism onto others.Note how they are suddenly antisemetic now...
>>575024279You again.You are worse than AIfags.You are a literal leftoid fascist tranny who would worship hitler so long as hitler was "progressive"
>>575024334Wanting ludcattle to be handled is absolutely not fascism, let me guess you are against mental asylums and prisons too?
>>575024167is /agdg/ just now making this realization about ai?
>>575024501No, retard, I was talking about those reddit trannies calling others nazis. Learn to read, dipshit.They are fascist too, just like (You).I'm not on their side. I'm just not on yours either.
>>575024630You are on the wrong side of history
>>575024197THIS SO MUCHAlso as an unrelated aside, old programming tools OOZE SOVL
>someone played my game for 45 minutes>got the achievement for killing all 3 bosses>left a negative review saying it was just another "spirelike"Whatever. At least I got the twenty doll->requested refundFUCK
>>575024936lol
>>575024783>Is what the lefties tend to say whenever they burn down a building in a "peaceful" protestAnd yet you think you aren't the same kind of ilk as them
>>575025007
>>575025204Wrong again.I'm not a republicunt eitherI hate trump.
>>575025235sounds lke you hate everything and all sides, finicky loser you are
>>575025204Where'd you get that picture of me?
>>575025235 (me)...Whoops, thought >>575025204 was the same guy as >>575024783; didn't see the nametagOh well, y'all extremists tend to blur together anyway, regardless of which corrupt pedophile you voted for.
>>575025378>you hate everything and all sides>implying that's a bad thing
>>575025410i have never voted before 1 person isn't going to make a difference.
>>575025568nobody will be at your funeral
>>575025747Is that a death threat?
>>575025235you're a multi line attention seeking posting woman, we know. now leave for fucks sake
>>575025579People have this defeatist attitude and complain when the guy they hate gets elected desuTrumptards did it with Biden too
>>575024936Gaem?
>>575025974No. I was considering it, but NO. Now I will stay for a long while just to spite (You).Maybe YOU should leave instead, AIfag.
>>575026184yeah
>>575026313Which one? There are a lot of gaems.
>>575026309uh oh someone is on their ludperiod
>>575026184Moonsigil Atlas. Yes, I know, it's supposed to be a conversation with the genre-leader, not a ripoff.
>>575025378god forbid someone hates extremistsman imagine hating people who are shitty cunts, what a "finicky loser" he must be
>>575026468Leave now, AIfag.
IT'S UPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j33jNcTKKR4
>>575027024No. I was considering it, but NO. Now I will stay for a long while just to spite (You).Maybe YOU should leave instead, 'dite.
>>575027067
>>575027161>His only rebuttal is to just copy what I posted verbatimYou have no originality. You are a soulless husk.You will never be a gamedev. You will never have a game.
>>575027415post your game, you won't
>>575027667Post yours.
>>575027067>Click play>See homosexual>Close video
>>575027772>no uyou ludlost
Fuck me, I knew I was seeing a pattern. My genre is getting an influx of devs. I cannot take too long lest someone make the same idea as me but better or successfully make a FOTM game that saturates my genre with more devs. Come on! It's not even an easy genre like the slop yet these people are voracious! Now I have to juggle between:>showing game asap>keeping game hidden until almost release readyGamedev has gotten too cutthroat where even small games are at risk of being ripped off. I only see one possible choice to win, it is by putting in 8 hour days to finish fast. If I can delay revealing it until it is a mere 3 months from release, then I avoid having my thunder stolen. But can I pull this off? Is putting in 8 hour days, 5 days a week even feasible for me?
>>575027813>Has the audacity to say I'M "no u"ing when he literally did it in >>575027161
>>575028035you have no game
>>575028082Well, neither do you.
>>575027872Pointless grindset when the real meta is streamerb8 friendslop first, gambaslop second. If you're not those genres then do whatever, about 19 people might care.
>>575028172Ah so you admit it! You officially ludlost.
>>575028675No, I never did "admit" I "lost".The only one losing is you, and the completion you're losing is "not being an eejit"
can i get found out if i used pirated plugins? not assets something like the blueprint assistant that deals with the spaghetti
should i have claude code make me a photoshop clone or some shiet
>>575028772you are boring me 'dite
>>575029175>stoppingThat counts as a forfeit. Ergo, you lost the argument.I accept your concession.
>>575028864If you use engines that are interpreted instead of compiled (godot) then sure, you'd be found out immediately.
>>575029142Fork GIMP and make it not retarded
>>575030243i'm using unreal
Friend just told me a VN he made using AI on patreon made like 10x the money that he is making on a handmade action platformer with handcrafted pixel art HD animations.
>>575031868Can't say I'm surprised.
i watch a lot of podcasts and there are two types of successful peoplea) "i'm lucky this worked, i'm glad people are happy, i tried my best, working on my second game right now"b) "i'm successful cause of my hard work and everybody who isn't successful is just a lazy piece of shit, oh btw my parents did the same job i did and i had a trust fund but that doesn't mean i didn't work hard"
>>575032528luck is a spook
>>575032528humble vs god complex
>>575032528type a shills his next game instead of doing a deep discussion type b doesn't.curious
ludsisters...
"advantages are often invisible precisely because they work"
there is one thing all successful people have in common. they breathe.
2 posts an hour /agdg/ is fucking DEAD
>>575033362's did this
poverty is a constant attempt to answer the question how to make something out of thin air (the only thing that's free)
Why is it called game "developer", when you are supposed to make art? Same with web "developer" supposed to design user interfaces.I signed up for programming, not for making 3D animations and hand-painted textures.
>>575034181You develop games.
>>575034181A game can have no art (text-based games, MUDs, and ASCII games) but a game can never have no programming
left brain: make game make game make gameright brain: get a real job, stop dreaming, this will go nowhere, you can't do it alone and without fundingwhy did god gave us a brain that fights itself and freezes?
>>575035516thinking is post-hoc rationalization that is impeding your progress as a starseed
>>575035516full brain: do both, get a real job and work on your game on the side and only quit job if game works out
which one?
>>575036191top, the name has to pop out
>>575036191IDK but if you go with the bottom one fix the blur so it stops at the title like the top one.
>>575027285Holy shit is youtube depressing
>>575017020>t.brown code monkey who implements genius features like switches that operate all doors in a level and save game files that set the player position to 0,0,0.
>>575024890Pure SOVL
>>575036191Top has better visibility, but bottom is much more appealing and soulful
i think i'm too right-wing for creativity. how do i become more left-wing? i'm willing to sacrifice some logic stat points for creativity stat points.i'm not willing to go fully tranny, but stephen king tier would already be good enough.
is it better to not know what game you are making? because if you know, you'll most likely think it's a bad idea.
why did no one tell me
>still not in professional game developer general
comparing children entertainment to adult entertainment, the only difference seems to be that adult entertainment is designed to make you depressed. maybe the difference is that for adult brains the government is like "yeah you can mess up his brain, it's his own responsibility" and for children it's "if you spawnkill their brain you'll go to prison".
>>575036917>>575037638>>575038273is this some kind of bot or wtf is going on
have a funny meme
>>575036917Sorry, but you have insufficient IQ to become a true liberal. The best you can do is be a brainwashed NPC.>>575038273Sex makes you depressed? Because that's the only difference.>>575038350>he doesn't know
>>575018993Yes. The primordial truth of gamedev. Of art as a whole
>>575038775Video games can never be art because God's chosen people can't use video games to launder money. Video games are consumer products.
>Day 847 of my wholesome pixel-art farming RPG journey **heart smile emoji** Here's a GIF of my character watering a plant. Please wishlist my game!I love this medium/hobby more than anything, but man I really fucking hate the social media grind you have to do just to get noticed haha
>>575039061if you feel like you have to do this then your game isn't very good
give gamers what they want
>>575040802where's the proggy?
>>575036917https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJFrCxm2Lro
>>575040802How come chink games have all these dapper euro outfits but then in amerishart games everyone is dressed like a walmart slob
>>575041259that guy has a pony tail anon...
>>575041556And he's looking quite suave I must say. No wonder that girl is happy to be with him
>>575039016Art can be a consumer product. Any cultural artifact can be art as well as a consumer product.
>>575041623he looks like an autist
>>575041717Is that what your beer gut told you
>>575041812I just devved salmon dinner
well well well
>>575040961Erm...
i made no proggy today.
>>575045596proof?
>>575046810
>>575045596but you made salmon?
>>575047463i walked to the mall and bought some stuff too in 103f and the wind blew my dress up like in anime. baaaaaaakaaaaa!i guess i did study physics engines a little today.
>>575044535>Tim Sweeney>AI is generational productivity tool for all fieldsif only he could use all that potential productivity to fix his shit store and make a real competitive store against steamwhat we really have is him seething all day everydayjust like (You) KEKYPOW
>>575049281he right doe larger studios don't give a fuck and small devs are easy targets
>>575036191bottom but replace the A's with the house of the top, remove the weird grass in it (makes it look noisy), and give it the same outline as the top.
>>575049446if only he had a competitive store to implement that idea...
>>575049762you can't compete with steam's moat
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>>575049762Building a competitor to steam at this point is like trying to build a competitor to windows - actually even harder because microsoft is actively enshittifying windows which makes linux more enticing.
>>575052254What menu games do you enjoy? Start there.
>>575052986Notch could have done it with Minecraft but he's a cocksucking retarded faggot just like every programmer.
Proggy.Fixed some level generation bugs.Rewrote the enemy AI to improve avoidance behavior.Refined the retro filter, now the game renders at a low resolution and the scanlines overlay renders at full native resolution with no post processing.Improved the dodge roll, now the player doesn't awkwardly stop at the end of the roll while moving and smoothly transitions into walking.
>>575054504she looks like she fucks AIchads
>>575054504cute game, anon! unless it uses ai, then I hate it.
AI makes autists obsolete.Autists already have an enormous disadvantage in today's social media driven market but every advantage they had over normals is being eliminated by AI
>>575058170>>575059014Uhh... thanks?
how do i get good at character design?
>>575062228
>>575062324Why reply with this image. What the fuck is that supposed to even mean you stupid fucking faggotYou will NEVER be a little girl
>>575062764multi line posting fucking attention seeker go somewhere else
>>575062764
>>575007847
>>575062895single line nodev schizo ass nigga
>>574987721Playable here now https://a327ex.com/posts/reincarnated-as-the-only-piece-that-can-l-jump-mighty-and-powerful-and-dashingly-handsome-horse-effortlessly-tramples-one-thousand-pawns-for-all-to-witness
>>575064601Unfathomably based title.
>>575064601>a327ex.comthanks for the virus>>575064872shut the fuck up zoomer
how can I achieve this level of KINO?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=204fBMmjb5g
>>575064601>adn is back
Spending all my tokens on making my AI coded UI look not AI coded
>>575065259Actually does look kino ngl though I'm very burnt out on the>FPS but you play as an anime girl and you see her face on your HUD at all timestrope.
>>575065813cry more about it zoomer
>>575065259read a lot of obscure manga
>>575065861now that you mention it its funny how old man coded anime is becoming
>>575065813
>>574906190I had a 'cyberpowerPC' back in the day. The fans were loud as heck.
>>575065983Not really, but zoomers just don’t have the same otaku culture. And have to adhere to a weird, neurotic, paradoxical schism of watching anime but getting socially offended at anything “abnormal” about it.
>>575067123>And have to adhere to a weird, neurotic, paradoxical schism of watching anime but getting socially offended at anything “abnormal” about it.kek that's true
>Spent 4 months making a demo>It's not fun>Spent another few weeks trying different ways to make it fun>It's still not fun>Found the most similar game to mine on the steam store and described it to GPT in detail and asked it to make a prompt to recreate the game.>Vibe coded it in one day>It's funAlbeit, it's far less polished than my original game, but the polish will be far easier than trying to make a boring game fun.I guess this is how I'm making games from now on.
>>575068054but you didn't code it so you have to learn what all of the code even does. it's why i don't understand you ai coders, i'm all for using it as an assistant to clarify/simplify your own code but having it create full on code for you makes no sense in case you want to go in and modify it or as you say polish per the rest of your polishing ideal. full aicoding is a dead end that rots the skills of all coders over time if used too much in terms of creativity and being able to maneuver on their own without any help
fable bros what is this... just eating my tokens for jujubes.
>>575067123>And have to adhere to a weird, neurotic, paradoxical schism of watching anime but getting socially offended at anything “abnormal” about it.
>>575068054Its an odd feeling isn't? Liberating but also unsettling.
>>575068521Get with the times, bro. There is no reason to look at code anymore.
>>575068703its what happens when a task is too far beneath a model's reasoning abilities
>>575068521if I was an artist and worked with a coder friend to make a game, I'd have no idea what the code does either. why is this different?
>>575069610nothing liberating about having to learn someone else's code, worse than slaving out in a field
>>575069817>beneath>claude, can you see animated gifs?>yes.. let me just...it decoded an animated gif into base64 and hurt itself in its confusion
>>575069694Sloppers really want to gaslight everyone into giving up their skills become mediocre like them.
>>575069913The liberating part doesn't come until you let yourself accept you don't need to look at the code anymore. Directors don't do that shit.
>>575070285>sar I have retarded robot redeem grunt work for me so I director now!!!111 Peak brownoid mentality
>>575070467You are making me cry shut the FUCK up
>>575069849>why is this different?you would know how it's like to actually have a friend to work with and talking about games and the game that you're making and how is getting better, and you wouldn't be doing those retarded comparisons
>>575070829I have real playtesters albeit
>>575071340your grandma and mother?
>>575059808>>575062228>>575062324is it okay for trannadev to ban evade? if so its okay for AI chad
Are commie games an untapped market?
If you want to corner the super lucrative zero profit market, sure
>>575073012
>>575073087commies have no money, so no, it's not a market worth positioning for
I'm gonna make visual novels OKAY??I like writing and drawring alright!?
>>575074768use AI
>>575075049Ive asked AI to critique my writing and it offers some good suggestions sometimes but other times rewrites it in the most generic way possible. For art its good at generating ideas and references but you will either get something soulless that has that obvious AI look or something that looks usable if you tell it to mimic a certain style, but even then I don't like it because it feels pointless. Like activating godmode in a game it loses all meaning. I could accept using it for things like background props or something
>>575072318my mother and my wife's boyfriend
>>575074768renpy is vibe coded btw. saw the dev getting blasted on bluesky
>>575076483luddies are so tarded renpy can be one shot by frontier models at this pointthere's nothing sacred here
>>575073890They have money, but they'll pirate your game anyway because true communism means giving your hard labor away for free
>>575076483renpys been around long before AI but if they use AI for updates on it now that makes senseI don't have an issue with using AI for code but I know enough of programming I could do a visual novel myself anyway
>>575077057True communism is making sure your employer (Gaben) doesn't deny you the fruits of your labor.
>think something working means I forgot to save>assert !success just to double check
okay but if I were to make a VN side project is there any reason to use renpy if I'm more familiar with unity?
single-player mmo. you have to control the entire raid party by yourself in real time like an rts. no party member ai.
Blog post, filter "days left" and never see this again.Had one productive day and now I'm back on my old routine. Didn't do my full 5 hours yesterday, started work too late, finished past midnight, achieved very little. The thing that's working against me is I've had very productive years when I worked 40 hours a week on my games and worked out 5 times a week and my diet was on point and none of it improved my life to a noticeable degree. So why would I be trying harder now? I want to, but also fuck it, you know?83 days left. I owe 1700 minutes of work. Today I'll be fixing two annoying bugs that came up again yesterday.
>>575078438no
Any suggestions for 3D action games with addictive movement to study?A lot of the fast-paced games I've seen have been 1st person/boomer shooter types, Warframe really opened my eyes to 3rd person movement (even if I found the combat to be a bit boring)I'm kinda looking for another with fun movement but isn't like a rail grinder like Jet Set Radio
>>575079419max payne protoype
>>575079419Why would you fucking ask that?You have NGMI energy.First rule of aggy, don't ask open questions even if it's sincere.
>>575079085You're not cris... stop posting your disgusting coffee and pastry. I only want to see cris' cafe and pan dulce.
>>575079419Vanquish.
>train 2d and it's quite approachable, nice and fun outcomes >want to create a Zelda top down game>All skills crumble and everything looks awful Mfw
>>575079685First rule of aggy is dont be a pdf albeit.
>>575080887>pdfwhy are you using tiktok slang here you retarded tranny
>>575081005ok oldtroon
I just had a bowel schmovement
>>575081396Proof?
https://youtu.be/ODbX5G56X14
I was watching a vtuber and she was playing this horror game called "Fears to Fathom"https://store.steampowered.com/app/4121170/Fears_to_Fathom__Scratch_Creek/Around the 30 minute mark she discovered a very low-effort cookie clicker clone as a mini-game in the game's virtual phone environment.When I went down to the comments, I saw this comment,"2:20 start30:23 they find cow clicker1:20:10 they stop playing cow clicker"Lesson of the day: Gamers are very easily entertained. Give them the most brainless, dopamine-inducing task and they'll stick to it like glue.
>>575083141you are watching a vtuber
Left is in the editor, right is what happens when i play the scene. Why the fuck does this happen?
>>575084083Godon't
https://youtu.be/7AJdrc8ZsEIfygoon watch this you might like it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=204fBMmjb5gtranscoded niggas have easy marketing
>>575085256this will be a short-lived trend
>>575085256>Coming late 2027!I will oneshot this with free-tier Claude in October 2027
>>575084083Nevermind i'm retarded.
>>575086610me too bro don't worry
>>575085449how lol? its been years of transcoded style over substance crap since signalis and that ugly godo fps
>>575078438yes unless you want to make a visual novel engine all on your own (which is not that difficult but will take you about a month or two)>>575085256reality has a liberal bias as they say
>>575085256bloodborne turned many gamers trans
https://store.steampowered.com/app/4927420/Idle_of_the_Dead/https://x.com/SucataStudios/status/20786046863622842241.4m "views" on a xitter ad for a fully slop game for over 1k wishlists, worth it or nah?
>>575088057your party slopped again
>>575088057sloppers always aggressively shill for ai on twitter but don't play the games that their own kin produces lul
anti AI hysteria era will pass
>>575088692lol, luddites are doomed
Just realized a genius way to auto-win an argument on 4chan, given the anonymous nature of the site.Every time you make an argument, falseflag as or pretend to be the person you're arguing against and make them sound like they're insane or make them forfeit the argument or agree with you. You automatically win by forcing someone to say something they aren't.They can't prove that that post isn't them; just accuse them of falseflagging as themselves. :)
>>575088964*actually ignore what I just said, I forgot to dilate so I'm a bit off today.
>>575066763>that meme LOL
I was going to work on my game today but I can't stop reading chud posts seething about The Odyssey being a huge success.The Odyssey is public domain so I could have made The Odyssey RTS from a template and made some easy money but it wasn't even on my radar until it released. I'll be paying attention from now on to movies in production that are based on public domain IP
>>575089564If your only thought when making a game is "how much money will this make me", you shouldn't be making games.
>>575079085You eat like shit. Also, what's your day job?
>>575090153this is true but it still is reasonable to have a goal financial outcome for your game, only to fund the development of further gamesunless you live somewhere cheap and can get a low effort part time job, most people are forced to work full time to sustain themselves, and this severely hampers your ability to make gamesi don't think you should get into gamedev if your only goal is to get rich, but it is fair to at least aspire for your games to make enough money to let you keep devving fulltime for the forseeable futuremaking games with absolutely zero focus on making money is fun and will produce extremely soulful games but then you'll either run out of money or lose your neet privileges somehow and be out of optionshard to find a balance there, worth considering
>>575089192>Trying to hijack my post to imply I'm one of THOSE people
>>575089564The Odyssey wouldn't be a good RTS, it would be a good adventure game.If you want to make a mythical RTS, then make one about the Illiad since it speaks about a war and the siege of a city.
>>575091264Prepare your anus.
i love AI devs because they don't mind being less intelligent than me. and the more stupid people there are the smarter i am in comparison.
>>575091412You activate my trap card
Are you ready to learn marketing?
>>575092102>troonhammerprobably the most poser faggot ip there is
>>575092575Interesting.
>That finished todayWelp, I know what I'm implementing today.>>574979108I know. I might nuke some since they are redundant.
>>575093756how do we handle that?
it's so miserable making a game but its the only time ive felt joy in life that wasn't caused by outside forces
>>575094159AI can fix that
>>575094345idk if ur the turd but unironically it has lifted some weight since im so burnt on programming. AI gen is getting me insanely lazy, though, so i have to watch it or else. my codebase will become fucked
Interactions and dialog boxes are working (even if they're fucking ugly right now), as well as screen transitions.
any recommendations?
>>575095190yeah
>>575095337gimme pls
>>575095362having the little bows increases the consistency of the text being over empty space vs background clutter, which I feel makes it more readable. I think that internal void creates a more subconsciously complicated to parse form when combined with trying to understand the wordshape before understanding the individual letters, ts
I think we need a newer branch of interactive media that is a cheap alternative to modern videogames, that evolves from pop up books, lit rpg, card games, board games and arcade games.
Is there a place to check what game mechanics have some gay patent waiting to troll someone? Or what patents HAVE been used to troll someone into removing something/paying?Because there's a few amazing mechanics/UI systems yet I can only recall two or three games using them and they're decades apart.. I can only imagine some fag sitting on a patent causing that
>>575093756nta but i misread implementing as impregnating and did a double take
>>575095926use AI
>He hasn't impregnated his game yet
>>575095190guts. long ragdoll guts.
>>575095739cris. I drew a picture of you for your birthday. do you want to see it?
>>575096326Yes
>>575096452
>>575095926thankfully no software patents in europe
>>575096525very good work
>>575096650retard
>>575096212thats actually a sick idea, like organs coming out and ribbon-like intestines going everywhereI'll work on that thanks homie
Nothing but dirt here, but it's going to be the San Francisco
https://www.reddit.com/r/KoreanGameDev/comments/1uzb7tw/%EC%BA%90%EB%A6%AD%ED%84%B0_%EB%AA%A8%EB%8D%B8%EB%A7%81_%EC%86%90%EB%B3%B4%EB%8A%94_%EC%A4%91%EC%9E%85%EB%8B%88%EB%8B%A4/reddit lolitroon AI chads mog 'dite lolitroon snaildevs
>>575097117their silence is deafening
>>575098996fake xweets
>>575099124nope
>>575096804usunoro>>575097117what is the plane image supposed to mean?
>>575099185aren't you sick of being wrong all the time about everything?
>>575099313well answer that xweet then, we both know you won't
>>575098742>gamedev community, [asian country]":O"I wonder if there's a japanese equivalent of /agdg/ desu
>>575099378as I said, fake xweets and you're wrong about everything all the time and that's all I wanted to say
>>575099381If there isn't I will make one once I move to Japan after my game is successful.
Using my old appartment as inspiration for mocking up a small scene
Any EU niggas ship a game on Steam? Do you need to file any forms with the IRS?
give gamers what xhey want.
>>575101674yes.pic related.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1wrEkpriZRXcKUCMix6so8ArtflZF7tyA?usp=sharingforgot to give the URL of the .blend file.
>>575101674Why does she have the halo?
>>575101938FVAARRKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
>>575103242https://bluearchive.fandom.com/wiki/Halo
>>575103387thanks, i fap to BA sometimes but I never played the game
>>575103242she's holy anonall lolis are
>>575104027true!
>>575104027>all lolis areanon...
Man.I wish there was a proper computer equivalent to the Nintendo DS local wireless multiplayer thingy.LAN play just isn't the same.
thoughts?
I had a weird dream last night where some guy was fucking a redheaded anime sex doll and then the sex doll came to life and gained sentience and they became loversFucking weird man
>>575104528With where technology is heading, that dream will be reality relatively soon.
>>575104608Well it isn't like that, I meanthe sex doll literally came to life biologicallyit's like, the semen gave it lifealso the guy was ventus from kingdom hearts for some reason
>>575097665>>575104528game development?
>>575104892the more out there and off topic a post is, the more engagement it gets
>>575104892oops meant that for lolitroons>>575103242>>575103387>>575103492>>575104027
>>575104528>>575104740>
>>5751049814trvke
why do AIncels hate lolis?
https://open.spotify.com/track/73ljrkSg4A0q3ByU0Cu7mw?si=288b22d5338a4325boom boom boom boom i want you on my dev team lets dev a game together from now until forever.
there is nothing wrong with fan service
Reading Drama Queen manga and thinking about how fun a "hateful" game would be. The story gives you some race people are forced to integrate with and you get to kill them in secret in between romance date segments with your girlfriend who also desires Total Alien Death.Probably would get a lot of shit for it in today's climate though lol
>>>/v/743952389gamers are your enemiesnever forgetti
>>575111083gamers are gate-keeping my millionaire status. fucking bastards!
>Am I so out of touch?>No, it's the GAMERS who are wrong.
>>575112998>gamers are right>slop slop and sloppyflop makes trillions of dollars
>>575113254You sound mad.
>>574987721yo this has potential, looks fun
>>575113353You're right. I'm wrong. Gamers were right all along. I was just being mad and a pathetic piece of shit.
Gamers are like women on dating apps: breathtakingly entitled, spoiled for choice while complaining how shitty everything is, always demanding more and more while offering less and less, and punishing those at the bottom for the sins of those at the top
Thank you for the forfeiture :)>>575113568>he thinks GAMERS are the cringe womenLol
https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-5
>>>/v/743956426>>575113568you need to cater to a niche that is not being served well or at all
>>575113353I'm not mad, I'm disappointed.
>Be 6'4">but dick size is like 6 inches and it shrinks when not erectI am cursed.
>>575113947I'm 5'8" with a 5.5" 4.2" dick and I'm doing just fine romantically.
>>575113568have you tried to do actual market research on what sells, like furry diaper cub platformers with card roguelike mechanics instead of making le funny metroid with castlevania puzzle platformer?
>>575114139nta but>5.5" 4.2"What does the double measurement mean here? You have two dicks?
>>575113758better than fable at some stuff. oh shit.
>>575114254Girth nigga, I'm implying my dick is on the thinner side.
when will they learn
learning about anons dingdingdong in ahd
>>575114139>I released an ugly game I made in 2 months and I'm a multi millionaireGood for you but your experience is not typical
>>575114601I know, I'm just saying it can happen and it's not over, but I had to basically destroy myself to get there, I was 28 KHHV and I was about to rope before I decided to give life another go, got a chin implant, tattoos, and hopped on steroids. Now 5 years later I went from never having had sex to having like 50 bodies, a lot of which were very attractive younger women; I also during that time used to hook up teenage girls from my gym with drugs that did sexual favors instead of paying me. This is actually really blackpilling experience for me because I'm still the same person just treated vastly different due to my change of looks/what I could provide AND because women are all cheating whores most of these girls that will suck your dick for weed and xannies all have boyfriends.
>>575114601lol
>>575114903nice fantasy weirdo.
>>575114758>>575114758>>575114758
>>575115073why'd you use my webm as the OP?I'm flattered but ?????????
>>575116176what
>>575085256>trooner shooterso a flop?
