Everything related to VR multiplayer games is welcome.
Ancient Dungeon VR got a multifplayer update.But you can only host private lobbies.
Ancient Dungeon VR multiplayer beta, clean steam files and crack separately.https://pixeldrain%2Ecom/u/ZMnfkFPeNot sure if crack is needed, added it just in case, try without it first.
Ancient Dungeon VR Multiplayer lobbyToday, UTC: 18:30 (3h from now on)Region: EU Lobby Code: NIGG
>>1115179Lobby is up.
Virtamate VR when?
>>1115179how was it?
>>1115482Both of us were new. Couldn't reach 3rd floor, kept dying to chip dmg.Plants with tracking projectiles are cancer.Wall traps are cancer. If someone dies, they are dead forever, couldn't find the way to revive.Didn't hate it though, pretty fun overall.
>>1113841Dungeons of Eternity has phenomenal reviews, I bought it, played for two hours, reached level 5 and refunded it. I felt like I completed everything there was to do. It scales you to whoever is highest level, so the only thing to do (Dungeons that give you stronger items) feel moot. The game is too simplistic imo
>>1115847Is it quest only? Reviews can't be trusted, especially on quest with all the kids. Even on steam 90% of reviews are written by people with 0 standards.As for progression, it reminds me of After the Fall, where other players could just drop you guns with all the legendary attachments so you don't have to grind, and you want to do it because the grind there was pretty terrible. Once you don't have to grind, you instantly realize that the game is basically empty
Post more skelebros
>>1115572Was sick yesterday so couldn't join, any plans on more lobbies?
>>1116370We can play in 30 min, if you want.
>>1116371Is there in-game voice/how do you communicate in-game?
>>1116389There is in-game voice.
>>1116391Would love to play then, if you want
>>1116395Do you have it downloaded? You need switch to the beta branch.
>>1116397Switched to beta branch yesterday
>>1116400Create a lobby on EU. I will connect.
>>1116403Validated files, will try restarting Steam.
>>1116411Just tested. Works on my end.
>>1116413Joined the lobby, didn't see or hear you.
>>1116416I can see your nick, but can't hear.
>>1116419Just as we are playing.
Good workout at the end, thanks for hosting and see you again tomorrow hopefully!
The absolute hero, trying to save the dream. GGs.
>>1116502Lol 3 screens for RuneScape? Lmfao fat
Ancient Dungeon VR Multiplayer.Today, UTC 18:00 (~5 hours from now on)Region: EULobby: NIGG
First win, GGs and homing nuclear arrows!
Remember, kids, always keep gambling.GGs
Just got my quest 3 last week, my first vr headset, would love to find some people to play multiplayer with since all my friends are poorfag. I'll install ancient dungeon, but I'm down for any shooter or multiplayer game really
>>1119709Try hosting lobbies of games you are interested in.Most people who have VR for a while already played all the notable games, but still might join if someone hosts.
>>1119713I'm free tonight, should I make a thread or is here fine, you think? Honestly would love to find people who would want to play Breacher.
This Sunday, at 7PM GMT, I will host Protonwar deathmatch, possibly CTF if there's enough people. Mumble or Steam VC will be used for chat.It's a Q3A clone with VR support that its developer made free on Steam after he stopped working on it, get it here:https://store.steampowered.com/app/461410This game came out in the CV1/Vive heydays so if you're playing with Index knuckles you'll have to unbind touch and click actions on joystick and touchpad on controller you're using to move, otherwise you'll keep jumping like retard.
>>1119718Here is fine, vr is pretty dead, so separate threads are not really needed.
>>1119718Keep it here. One active thread is better than multiple dead ones. If you want to increase the chance of more than one person showing up crosspost it into the /vg/ VR thread.
Ancient Dungeon VR Multiplayer.Today, UTC 16:00 (~1 hour from now on)Region: EULobby: NIGGMight go for couple of hours, reply to this post if you want to join later, we will wait for you.
Anyone want to go for half an hour of walkabout golf before ancient dungeon vr?
>>1119760Lobby is up.
>>1119760Cheers that was good fun, I definitely need to unlock the crossbow in solo play first.
>>1119838GGs.Btw, the relic which increases the dmg you take for extra dmg is very risky, it basically halves your hp till the end of the game and make every healing item only half as effective.Not worth taking unless you are a god gamer imo.Crossbow unlocks very fast, I think I got it in 2-3 MP games, so not worth stressing over.
>>1119760Thanks for hosting, hopefully further updates will fix some of the bugs.
H3 is such a junky poop, holy shit.
>>1119709>all my friends are poorfagif you have a pc that can run vr games I recommend playing some multiplayers games with vr mods so you can play in vr while they play normally, vivecraft, RoR2, valheim, deep rock
>>1122799I think I've figured it out while it feels so clunky.At first I thought it's just dropping frames, so I decided to play with framegraph visible, but it's not the case at all, both CPU and GPU are finishing work in less than 3ms consistently. It's just the "physics" simulation. The game either runs physics at half the framerate or it's like couple frames behind. I've never noticed anything similar in other games.So weird. It's full framerate but it just feels like shit.
When Battle Talent gets Multiplayer I'm gonna coom
https://rentry.org/xrd2e/editThe vivecraft server is back up, and updated. The dungeons worldgen mod that a anon requested has been added, but I didn't test it at all yet. Also added sound physics mod (should be great for vr) and craftable waystones. If you had it installed already and want to play again, delete the mods folder and drop in the new one from the download to update your instance.It's thursday so I and possibly a few other anons will probably be on at some point tonight
>>1124450>battle "talent"
>>1124522Excuse my ignorance, I dont understand your link? Is this on the quest store?
why the fuck didn't pavlov go on sale during the VR fest sale?
>>1125175dave's pulling a beat saber
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVw7due7xeIThe junk is back on menu.
>>1124933It's not on Quest. You get PolyMC or PollyMC if you want to pirate the game, install the instance that's linked in the rentry, and you can join the server then.
>>1125175Don't bother, recent updates killed all the fun modes anyway
>>1125613In the end, the dev was right, we just didn't appreciate what we had.
been out of the vr loop a few years. is there a multiplayer skyrim vr yet?
>>1125613Are there any good alternatives?
>>1125755The other big shooter is contractors, but it's full of tryhard retards who abuse playspace scaling to cheat + quest kids.Pavlov is basically dead rn. WW2 push maps are fun, but often times you can't even get a server with people on it. Normal public servers are even more dead, with the exception of vrmassive, which is a big pile of trash.I just play ItR for shooting range these days.t. NTA
>>1125755Contractors for fun modsBreachers for more tactical shooting
>>1125766breachers is kindergarten simulator
>>1125768Same with all multiplayer VR games since the inception of Quest crossplay. It's why I lurk here hoping that lobbies of something cool will happen.
>>1125770Breachers is especially bad in that regard.> It's why I lurk here hoping that lobbies of something cool will happen.Be the change you want to see in the world.
>>1125771I'll host Quake VR co-op once I figure out how to get it working on my Linux VPS. And my friend's hand stops being injured. One day...
>>1122799>>1122875skill issue
>>1125786the dev is having
>>1125806actually if you are a new player in h3 and havent followed the gorillian dev logs by him. The issue is probably the smoothing that he implemented not that long ago. You can change that in the settings under filtering or something.
>>1125812It's not the smoothing, I've disabled everything. Also tried to switch between player-relative and world-relative. Doesn't help.>and havent followed the gorillian dev logs by himI'm aware of them, but don't care. If the end result is not good, the journey doesn't really matter.
>should I play some vr games today?>nah
Finally got to test that gaussian splatting vr viewer.>Pros: Drapery looks very good, I think the best I've ever seen in 3d media.Transparent plastic looks good too.>Cons:Splat starved objects look very bad. 70MB for a small scene, if that ever gets to mainstream, expect 1TB game sizes."550fps on 4090" claim is bullshit. For acceptable quality, you need lots of splats and lots of splats make even 4090 kneel.
>>1130011I've also read that they can animation, but temporal artifacts a pretty bad. And if just one frame of splats is already that heavy, how big in size the video is going to be.
>>1130026
>>1130028
so is Ancient Dungeon worth the price or should I wait for a sale? I want co op stuff. since after a year absence from vr, just a bunch of sweats in pavlov running around as groups, and even in contractors, the star wars mods is the same thing. how the fuck did both games go to shit in a year?
>>1130766Ancient Dungeon is fun for a bit, but gets old very fast. You can get ~6 hours of gameplay out of it pretty easily though.>how the fuck did both games go to shit in a year?Sane people left. Pavlov was destroyed by the devs. Contractors is plagued by playspace-scale cheaters.
The roxy minigame is a massive disappointment.
>>1131607I don't think her voice actress will ever have a role that popular again
If anyone wants to play the No Man's Sky expedition reruns, my friend code is 17VH-8J5A-BAE26
>>1131607The gimmick to switch to the second part of the game was pretty cool.Kids might have a problem without a guide though. Or maybe that was the idea.
>>1130033Been checking this tech out recently.Super cool stuff.Can't wait to see historical sites captured this way, some cool slow paced exploration/travel
>>1140723I'm terrified of the size personally, splat starved objects don't look good, I would say worse than traditional photogrammetry with meshes and textures.70mb for 1 square meter for acceptable quality is a bit too much for a big location. I wonder if anyone is looking into combining splats with traditional meshes to improve efficiency. Getting quality scans is a problem too. But if they could figure it out, there is nothing better for static scenes, yeah.
Current VR news:>Low Effort asset-flip Labyrinth wins Steam VR GOTY.>Nofio Wireless Addon for Index starts arriving to the kickstarted backers.>Unreal Engine 4 VR injector UEVR releases to the public. Balan Wonderworld is finally playable in vr.
What to expect from the Vision Pro competitors in 2024-2025> Eye tracking: baseline> Face tracking: most likely baseline too, 4x front facing depthsensors are unlikely>3k^2+ per eye panel resolution>Pancake lenses>Wifi 7
>>1146525Alright, I feel compelled to ask. Why don't these standalone headsets ever feature expandable storage?
>>1146784I'm pretty sure one of the htc's standalones had a microsd slot, so there were headsets like that.
>>1146784Think about shareholder value anon
God, it's been real tempting to get a Quest 3, but everyone keeps saying Deckard is coming any day now. Has there been any news about it?
>>1151852Nopeand even if it was announced in full tomorrow, it would still be 3-6 months minimum before it hit stores
>>1113841Just finished my first round of Ghosts of Tabor. If you've got the money, have some buddies and like vr shooters, highly recomend
>>1159425>have some buddiesI wishMy brother gave me his old quest 2 with a few games, including Tabor but I don't have anyone to play with and keep getting motion sick as I've never played VR before
Fun thing about motion sickness, most overcame it with 3D when it was new, i remember my parents when we got our first computer tried 3D pc games and got motion sick, but after some training they got their 3D legs, same thing with VR, baby steps.
>>1160711Have you tried playing with smooth turning turned off? It made all the difference for me.
Any anime clubs? When /a/ streamed Madoka a few folks were watching in a VR theatre which makes me wanna bust out the Quest again
>>1162693There's regular anime viewings for both eu and na timezones in vrchat, if that's what you mean. Check the vrg thread for it
Anyone here play Ghosts of Tabor? It's pretty good. Username is QweefKookie.
>>1165011EU or US region?
>>1166467USA baybeee
>>1167831I guess it was never meant to be.
FUCK, now this is a VR thread? I've been stuck on the /vg/ VR thread, not knowing you guys existed.Anyway I've been looking for some players to play Battlezone Gold (joystick game supported for VR), it's one of my favourite experiences, and would love to play it again due to lack of players. I would recommend trying the game out if you want a less tech-demoish game for once, but it's not worth buying unless there's a sale (it drops 80%+ off, currently full price)Otherwise does anyone have it and looking for players too?
>>1168018>$35>russian store blocked explicitly way after the releaseyikes
>>1168037yeah never buy it full price, even if the game is great.
>>1168070Does the game have drm? Sometimes multiplayer works with just the steam emu, so all you need to do is share the files.
>>1168072Ew I knew it looked familiar. It's one of the few VR games with Denuvo. Not buying that even at 99% off
>>1168072>>1168103shit I forgot about that, yes it does sadly.Does it really make a difference? I've reinstalled it enough times and never been blocked out, or had my games interrupted.What does Denuvo even do then?
>>1168103>It's one of the few VR games with Denuvoedge of nowhere bros...>>1168110>What does Denuvo even do then?You get a certain amount of activations per specific processor. It refreshes once in a while, don't remember exactly how often. It's cancer, but if you have internet when you install it, it's not really a problem if you have a legit copy.Bad implementation (drm check during hot loop like in RE Village which caused frame stutter) aside of course.
>>1130011>gaussian splatting vr viewerNeat. Link?
>>1169001https://www.gracia.ai/
As an index user, you live by the cord and you die by the cord. No refunds.
>>1169040ty>>1169043All three Indexes (Indices?) in my group have had their cables fail (within the warranty), and all at the pigtail detatchment point which apparently is so fragile that I make sure to always leave it plugged in now. Guess they only designed it to act as an emergency breakaway with limited cycles?
>>1169495>Guess they only designed it to act as an emergency breakaway with limited cycles?Yes, it's a stupid design. The vive had something similar with a linkbox but it could safely be removed and reattached as many times as you liked.
so is there still a way to play tf2 in contractors or did it actually get completely shitcanned?
>>1169959It's back up nowhttps://mod.io/g/contractors/m/tf2-vr
>>1169977Huh?NTA, but didn't valve sent a cease and desist letter?
>>1169977oh shit thats nice. i thought the same thing this anon did>>1169980
>>1169980Only to the TF2 Source 2 project. They also instructed the Portal 64 project to stop due to inevitable issues from using a leaked Nintendo SDK.TF2VR may have never even been in Valve's sights but those two projects plus Youtube videos being hit with (presumably false) DMCA notices spooked them.It wasn't a bad idea. Company policy can change from backlash or shift their focus elsewhere, making it safe to reupload, whereas a cease and desist would shut it down permanently.
Anyone here playing Bonelab?>>1124933There's Questcraft which brings java vivecraft to standalone>>1124522Prism Launcher is the best there is
>>1170316>Anyone here playing Bonelab?It has multiplayer? What it is like?
>>1170316>Anyone here playing Bonelab?qrd?
Going to host Dragon Fist tomorrow at 8PM EST if anyone wants to beat each other up.
How it's going, fellow chuds?
>>1170948Yeah its Fusion mod (づ￣ 3￣)づJust hard too handle for the computer when there is a lot of people, but awesome.
>>1173234>Fusion modhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVavphtfTd4Looks decent. If someone hosts next week, I will join.We can play through the story. I played the game something like 3 times total on the release day, then got filtered by the climbing minigame and never actually beaten it.
Is there any info on how ITR2 coop will work? Also I pray it is not super questified..
>Got Legendary Tales ages ago on sale>Price gets jacked up to 55 fucking USD>Get the update for freeMan, I'm glad I got it when it was cheap because I love the game but no way would I pay 55 dollars for a VR title. Shame nobody's gonna get it because of the price now since it's actually pretty fun co-op and there's not much like it for co-op experiences.
>>1179523It was also relatively expensive back then, compared to other vr games on steam, I mean.I had it in my wishlist for the longest time, but the greedy gook only did small sales, so I never bought it. Now the price is even higher.
>>1179540It really sucks because rarely do we get a PCVR first title and has numerous hours of co-op that's not PVE, but at that price you get way less room to go "well, it's a small indie VR game" and it's legitimately good and fun, EA with two friends was awesome, but I couldn't recommend it over 40 dollars and they're never going to put it on sale.
>>1179582Not PVP, fuck.
>>1173243>>1173234is there dedicated server binary? I have a beefy VPS that can host this if so
>>1179666>I have a beefy VPSYou think it's server based (not p2p), runs on CPU and multithreaded? I didn't look much into it, but if it is, theoretically I can compile for you.What are the specs of the VPS btw?
>>1179523It was expensive for such a rough early access launch too. The dev is extremely stubborn on price and blames everything else. Pricing any product based on your spent time and effort only works when you have enough demand in the first place.The 1.0 patch was a big improvement and the game certainly has some interesting gameplay but I still think it's overpriced. The argument that if you want more full sized games you have to support it falls flat when there's a ton of missing quality, polish and thoughtful design that you'd expect from a $55 product. I want quality and quantity together.Enemy placement, collision boxes, some questionably lower quality assets, awkward item hover UI and the whole toggle grip issue that suggests it wasn't even tested on an Index.There's not even a sound effect when collecting gold coins! Videogame sound design 101, one of the most important and satsifying sound effects when done well. Missing from the final $55 product.Someone pointed out that the price was much lower in the developer's home country. It's the equivilent to $40 in Korea. For some reason it's just higher priced everywhere else, even in much poorer countries.
What can I play on vr where I don't have to play army shooter or worry about anisoy gooners?Keep in mind I don't care what people do on their own time or in private but I often get people trying to drag me to vrchat for boring worlds where everyone is a voice changing whispering anime kitbash avatar
>>1124655This is how I feel about most of the vr combat games, the moment you grab anything it just goes braindead mostly
>>1180340VR, unfortunately, is very fag infested in general. I've met too many unapologetic homos even playing tabletop games in public lobbies ffs.I don't think it's possible to get away from them completely if you play multiplayer vr. At best you can mitigate it by removing them from your close vicinity when they stay there longer than absolutely necessary.
>120fps+ significantly reduces the Simulator Sickness The paper is not yet available on sci-hub so I couldn't read the whole version, but I think it might really put the "you don't really need an expensive PC for VR" argument to rest. Game devs wouldn't be happy about that one.Happy to see them using the correct term SS, instead of Motion Sickness like amateurs usually do.
>>1182634Fuck, I just noticed all the chink names in the authors graph. That's not good. Let's hope the paper is legit.
>>1182634>>1182643Where was it published? As long as it was published somewhere reputable I don't mind that chinks made it
>>1180352Fast forwarding a week, it has not gone well regardless
>>1182906>As long as it was published somewhere reputable I don't mind that chinks made itDoesn't matter. I've read too many papers, I know they know how to game the system. Only chinese names mean paper is fake or complete bullshit 80%+ of the time. It's fine if there're at least some western names usually, in means they are doing research in the west, but only chinese is a big red flag. At least in graphics, I don't read a lot of medical papers. https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/10049694Still no available, can only wait at this point.
It seems it really is impossible to escape from them if you spend a non-trivial amount of time in front of the computer.
>>1184064God, it's just so ugly....Not really VR related, is it?
>>1184077>Not really VR relatedI really wish it wasn't. I'm so tired.
>>1180352Video games multiplayer is fag central, especially competitive games.
>>1144022>Balan WonderworldThis looks like fucking Billy Hatcher and the Giant egg. Why would you even download this, let alone care if it comes to VR?
>>1185258That was the joke.Do you have autism, Anon?
>>1182643>>1182906>>1183470What a funny timing. Paper is still not available.
Anyone got recommendations on VR rhythm games? Beat Saber is my go to but I've been really enjoying Smash Drums lately. Tried out Synth Riders, Ragnarock and Unplugged but wasn't too impressed. Pistol Whip is good, but I wish it had more/different music. I've tried a few others but I can't remember them off the top of my head.
>>1189938>but I wish it had more/different musicisn't there custom level support now? Admittedly I was having trouble finding an up to date torrent.
>>1189938>wasn't impressed with ragnarockI don't believe you.
At first I thought that Sony was just being schizophrenic again by closing the studio which was making PSVR2 games, but now I understand.
>>1192881he thanos snapped em on the way out
>>1189968Oh, I didn't realize! It's pretty great, specially being able to download levels directly in game. I'll probably spend more time playing it then. Thanks!>>1190686It's not a bad game, but I don't feel like playing it often. The music is good, the gameplay is okay, but I don't care for the presentation. That's where Smash Drums really shines.
Cucktractors Showdown open beta is live. Have you played?
>>1194678Installing it now that i know i dont need to be on their discord.hope its good
More people need to play All In One Sports VR. The games are fun like wii sports and the multiplayer system is simply two people putting in the same code and connecting together, perfect for the thread.
>>1194678I played for ~3 hours. The game is very junk. Like you really have to wonder how the fuck are they still making those mistakes kind of junk. You literally can't pick up weapons them getting stuck in the shelf in the shooting range.Zeroing on SCAR-H is completely fucked for ironsights, it has NATO style sights, but you have to shoot it like it's AK style and it sucks.IK is a joke too. Pic related. Aside from junk, the game is alright. The menus are a bit clunky, because you have so much shit on your west, very often you pick up the second weapon when you try to grab the armor plate.Overall, playable. I even managed to win one. Oh, forgot to say about the LOD pop-in, it's definitely there, very often you see ground moves in front of you while you are running, very trippy, aside from that it's alright, doesn't really interfere with the fights, but maybe that's because I have a good PC. Don't know how the game would run on midrange systems.
>>1195194Might buy it during the next sale.
>>1194678>>1195103>>1195762Does anyone want to host? Up to 3 people can join together. I'm down to play tomorrow (today). EU region, after 15 UTC.
>>1195902Yeah I'd be down for that.Anyone wanting to play:ContractorsContractors ShowdownAll In One SportsGuardians Frontline I'm free 13-17 UTC
>>1196185>Guardians FrontlineJust nabbed that game since it's 50% off but probably won't play it today since it's the last day of the week where we can play showdown.Add me on steam so we can organize gaems : 37939638
>>1196205that game looks fun
>>1196205Good fun, if anyone's down for any more I'll probably play a bit from 21-23 UTC latest.>>1196185Forgot to add Ancient Dungeon VR to that list.Add me on Contractors Showdown: jxyjeszngx362Or Steam: 80772487
20:00 UTC Contractors Showdown lobby. How does that sound?Today is the last day for this week's test btw, next friday is the next slot.
>>1196437I need to charge my headset a bit but I can join in 40 mins or so.Add me ig : pawbaxxziq2e6 or steam here >>1196205
Imagine not having multiple replaceable batteries. Imagine actually running out of charge.
My headset doesn't need to charge
>>1196600How many times can you rotate?
This is it. One of my quest touch controllers died. It's over for me.
>>1196602Idk I don't do that move I guess.
Are we playing or what? Just did 3 matches with randos.
GGs boys, good games!
Burger hours Contractors Showdown?
>>1196984You have like ~2hours left to play. 00:00 EST is the end.
>>1196984It's back to the wage cage tomorrow. Sorry, I'm going to sleep.
I'm so fucking tired of "out of gpu memory" crashes after every second match.Fucking nigger, I have 24gb of VRAM, how much more do you need?The more I play ConShowdown, the less I like it. Fix your freaking game.
>>1197055I'm on a laptop 3060 sounds like a you issue.
>>1197055kek thats what you get for installing legal malware
>>1197638>like a you issue.More like you are just not encountering it because you're playing with low rendering res because of your poorfag gpu.I guess they just didn't test it properly on a good system.
11 hours till second week's playtest starts.
We are so back
>>1201371wish they wouldnt keep it weekends since i work weekends
Server lag is worse than last week. Actually impressive.
>update firmware >money stolenUpdooting retards never learn heh.
Valve's dedicated linux nerd contractor spilled the beans about some secret project.
hello kind people :)i dont know if i am right here but i have a question:which would you recommend for budget-vr?https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/ny3nJyorhttps://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/Lq9Yz6 (with a 4070 ti super instead of 4070 super)?thx in advance.(someone in /tech referred me to this thread. so if i am at the wrong place, i would be also glad about a suggestion where to try)
We hate frogs here.
>>1206480even the cute litle froggies?sorry i did not intend to anoy anyone :(
>>1206473The one with the better GPU probably. There's no ceiling for GPU usage in VR because you can supersample for better image quality and anti-aliasing. It eats up a lot of VRAM so the more the better. CPU matters too but I've not seen a CPU benchmark for multiple VR games in a long time. VRChat and some unity games benefit massively from the AMD X3D CPUs, enough that it should impact your build if you plan on becoming a virtual tranny.
>>1206494thx a lot.in regards to the amd cpus, would be the 12600k still be sufficient for vrchat and unity? i dont exactly intend to go tranny (still, you never know what the future might bring) but vr-chat always looked fun and there are a lot of unity-games around.
Just noticed the update. What did they change?
Absolute fucking retards. Was it so hard to repost announcement on steam?The change is that the servers are up already.
>>1206503The X3D cache makes a huge difference in VRChat but you can still play it with other CPUs and there are enough options to reduce the performance impact of all the poorly optimized custom avatars. If you become addicted you'll probably find a way to justify upgrading again for it.Most VR unity games are easy enough to run because everything targets the Quest 2/3. The 12600k has better 1% lows in flat games compared to equally priced AMD options, which is important because any stutter or inconsistent frametime is much more noticable in VR, though I've not seen any VR specific benchmarks for it.
>>1206514thx. then i will stick with the12600. the pc i use now is a 7 years old laptop so i am already used to reducing performance demand^^.my main concern really is longlivety and i was told upgrading from the 12600k setup was better than from the 5700x3d setup i could afford.
>>1206531>i was told upgrading from the 12600k setup was better than from the 5700x3d setup i could afford.correct. the 12600k setup could support up to a 14th gen i9 later on the 5700x3d on the other hand, its an endgame chip for that platform. aside from the cpu itself, you'd need to buy new mobo and almost certainly new ram to upgrade that system.
>>1206511This might be the last chance to play the game properly. Cheaters are already there, on release things might be even worse.
>>1206534>the 5700x3d on the other hand, its an endgame chip for that platform5700x3d is noticeably worse than 5800x3d
>>1206550is it?i was under the impression there were within low single digit % of each otherif not, by all means replace 5700x3d with 5800x3d in my post, the main idea still is correct
>>1206561I'm not the german frogposter. I'm not spoonfeeding animals, just wanted to correct that the endgame for AM4 5800x3d. Lower max/base clock really hurts because there is not manual OC (normally, BCLK overclock is junk).
>>1179762>The dev is extremely stubborn on price and blames everything elseHoly fuck you were NOT joking about this. I've never seen somebody so willing to blame everyone else but himself and not even stop for a moment to think there's any merit at all to the complaints. The guy will have a reason for never ever being in the wrong.
My entire VR multiplayer experience is:>Play VR chat>People wanna ERP with me>Run away
>>1207862Vrchat has been ruined by degenerates. It's an okay platform with a completely terrible userbase. Similar to discord.It became something akin to a gay/trans pipeline, if you keep playing, it becomes just a matter of time until you become one of them. Very sad honestly.
>>1180340Rumbleit's a fighting game where you summon stones and smack the opponent with those stones
Contractors SD got an update again.
"What we got wrong at Oculus that Apple got right" by the former Head of Oculushttps://hugo.blog/2024/03/11/vision-pro/
>>1208203TLDR>Apple intentionally calibrated the Vision Pro display slightly out of focus to make pixels a bit blurry and hide the screen door effect “in plain sight”>Battery Pack is there to condition the user to always expect something to be connected to the headset, so Apple can eventually transfer most of the electronics to it and reduce the headset weight to ~300 gram in the next few generations.>Advice to Meta: solve all the issues of QP and make QP2 based and better than VP (lol)
New valve's patent detailing active noise cancellation for HMD's fans, suggesting high power draw. I wonder how they are going to power it.But maybe 1 hour battery life is not a problem if they solve the fast charging. That's the main issue which plagues the quests in my opinion, you just can't charge it fast enough and if you miss the timing on the external battery switch and start draining the internal battery, you basically lose the ability to play indefinitely. PCVR streaming from a dedicated desktop and eye tracking are also referenced.
>>1208126That seems cool
How dead/alive is contractors showdown? I tried to play last night at like 3:30am but couldn't get a game, understandably. Is it even better than Pop One?
>>1208285unfortunately nobody plays the game so you'll just sit in matchmaking que forever
>ctrl-f "VAIL">0 results foundDoes it suck?
>>1208889You can get a full lobby (60/60) during the normal hours easily.It's better than Population One, but I'm tired of the game a bit.
>>1208976I'll always have svc chaos
>play cuntractors showdown>retarded teammates ragequit in the first 5 minutes when I was 1v3>win that engagement >play sneaky and win the whole game later after the last person dies to the storm
>>1208092What weirded me out about it, was the fact I've never ERPed/Dont wanna ERP made it even sexier to them? Like I was some sort of challenge of conquest. Nah, fuck that.
The first image of Quest 3S leaked?
>>1209492Or could be fake.
>>1209496what would be the point of this? if they need a cheap sku they already have the quest 2. if anything they should work to lower the production costs of the quest 3.
>>1209663Probably trying to push people to upgrade to the upgraded XR2 Gen 2 inside the Quest 3 and standardize the platform/push more impressive stuff that's easy to market. The SoC inside the Quest 3 is actually monstrously more powerful than the Quest 2 and Pro's when you truly push it.
>>1209663nta, but for me the biggest drawback of the q3 is the lack of eye tracking for foveated renderingthere are huge perf gains to be had if the game implements it correctly, as DCS does (also another game, but i forget which).
>teammates keep raging>and I keep winning
>>1210754i completely forgot showdown playtest was a thing. when does that end
>>1210959In like 8 hours I believe
top heh
>>1211689As much as I like seeing competition in the VR industry, God I hope Sony rots.
>>1211731The controllers of psvr2 are the best, feature wise. Such a shame it's not the industry standard.
The prophet returnshttps://youtu.be/iNpWR1KbJJI
>>1213087What a journey.
A new whiney baldy dropped too.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1c92MoWO1c
I've figured out how to use Rookie PCVR manually. Is anyone interested in the writeup?
>>1215025My motivation was seeing this with the official executable.And now it's completely unneeded.
>>1213289I disagree with a good third of what he says in his videos but I still think they're good videos nonetheless. I really don't like how upset he is at some games trying to adapt "flat" gameplay to vr.Everyone wants a huge array of interaction in their games, but in some situations then less is more. I'm particularly thinking of Crossfire SIERRA SQUAD that got trashed because it didn't have manual reload on launch.Well I played the game after they put it in and let's just say that the game is too fucking difficult towards the end on hard difficulty that manual reload is a hindrance on the actual gameplay. The core gameplay which is point and shoot and make the correct decision on what weapon to use and who to point the gun at first.Another example is I don't like how in his previous video he dickrode Legendary Tales like a lot of other fags online praising it's parrying mechanic and other melee aspect, when mentionning the TWD Saints and Sinner in the same video. I'm sorry but dude, but several videos ago you trashed on Battle Talent for not having anti-waggle mechanic while LT has the same shit core mechanics but slap an artifical cooldown on your strikes so you can do full damage. It feels shit. Meanwhile S&S has proper momentum AND angles to strike to do damage. I like you MrVoice but goddamn please take your videos and scripts with has much salts as the game you're criticizing or praising.
>>1215891He also praises vertigo2, the game which I consider to have the absolutely worst weapon handing out of any vr game.>has the same shit core mechanics but slap an artifical cooldown on your strikes so you can do full damage.I think his argument that devs at least tried to mitigate it, not very successfully but tried nevertheless. The dev also came to his channel personally, so maybe he is a bit shy to shit on him right now. Rises the question of integrity, but what can we do?
>>1215891The heavy/light attack mechanic of LT is pretty poorly done because there aren't any cues. I keep thinking about games that have tried a similar thing like swords of gurrah but are far more obvious in their implementation of it. LT you just have to go to the dummy and practice swinging to figure out what that weapon's fire rate is. Swords of gurrah your blade actually breaks and refills. LT parrying does feel good though. Against two or three enemies the pace is really nice. But then that's almost ruined by not being able to do full damage to all of them because lmao light strikes.Fuck saints and sinners though. One of the worst implementations of artificial weight in vr. Honestly as far as melee combat goes, boneworks is the best I've played. Slashing with swords sucks but everything else is really solid and responsive. Heavy things aren't obnoxiously slow, collision isn't terrible, and everything is very dynamic with grabs and being able to use your whole body. I often go back to that game just to do a fists only run.
>>1216063Melee is just hard in VR due to a real lack of weight and feedback. You can't actually waggle a sword around in real life, but a controller is much lighter than that so the 'easy' way is simply artificial weight or a CD timer, but both can feel like total ass done wrongly. Saints and Sinners made me feel like my in game hands were lagging behind my real hands, but Legendary Tales CD feels way too long on anything that's not a 2H weapon.Any time I've played a heavily physics based melee game, it's always felt like such a bipolar experience. When it works well, it's amazing, but half the time it feels like I have to fight the game itself because the physics end up jank as hell. Felt that way about Blade and Sorcery, Legendary Tales, and Boneworks. It ends up taking my out of the game more than putting me into it when things get really awkward. I've had enemies in Legendary Tales get their weapons stuck on themselves or each other more times than I can count.It's kind of unfortunate we don't have more fleshed out Star Wars experiences, because the whole weightless nature of lightsabers and killing whatever they touch would actually make sense in VR and work well with the current limitations, from an immersion standpoint at least.
>>1215891I think Crossfire is more fun in realism mode with manual reload but anyone who plays arcade for more than a few minutes should see why reloads were automatic. Everything is so bullet spongey that you simply won't want to reload 200 times in a 7 minute mission.>>1216063I'm surprised more games haven't copied Swords of Gurrah, maybe it's too unknown. Blade breaking is a good way to limit attack spam and has enough depth from the varying recharge time to be satisfying. Broken Edge is similar, able to focus on speed and precision because it doesn't have physics janking it up. For shooters that want to add a few melee weapons it seems like an easier option than trying to implement a physics-based solution well. It doesn't even have to be a laser sword, you could have electified or elemental weapons.It's probably the only decent option for any PvP that doesn't one-hit kill because anything that relies on physics is going to feel jank, out of sync or end up with a meta that exploits bugs in the physics.
>>1209496Im glad i didnt wait for the quest 3s.>First VR headset ever was Quest 3 on launch day
Anyone wanna play a bunch of VR games while I'm funemployed the next couple weeks?
I'm up for that. What do you want to play, anon?
Damn, this gameplay is fire. $30 well spent lmao.
WOW
Anyone try out Paint the Town Red VR yet? Really enjoyed the flat version and looking forward to trying it in VR when I get some time.
>>1218473At first I thought that it looked retarded, but the dynamic voxel destruction might be cool. I wonder how it would look in vr. Might try it later today.
>>1218473It's fun and plays really well, just oldschool brawler. The default arm stretch feels bit weird but it's better than t-rex arms without it. Only downside is that coop doesn't work in VR yet.
And the whining baldy dicksucking garbage devs again just because they're willing to talk with him. *yawn*
>>1225028The who?
>>1225083Ctrl+f: baldy
>no announcement againheck off
Huge update is out.
They've added aim assist...I've lost all interest in the game.
>>1232469That is disgusting.
>>1232716I unironically wouldn't buy the game now. It's so fucking retarded.
>>1232469After some digging it's the "scope assist" setting that only works on 4x and higher scopes
>>1235393I have footage of it working with reddot and ironsights. It's not only 4x. I practiced aiming for quite a bit during the previous playtests, I can feel when the gun moves unnaturally.
>>1113841>i like mirror staring Engen
>>1232469how does it compare to the scope magnetizing to your eye like Killing Floor Incursion
>>1242420Never played Incursion, but I didn't like the implementation at all. I had to actively fight it a lot of the time, but I'm used to playing with every crutch aim feature disabled (virtual stock, smoothing etc), so I'm pretty sensitive.
>>1232469how to kill your game in one ez step
What the fuck is going on with /vm/. Usually it took a week to reach page 10, but now you only need 2 days.
>>1248063mods got lenient with generals and now it's just a refugee space for threads that can't maintain on vg and way too many minecraft threads
>Breachers added the competitive mode after a fucking year>"Oh, cool, let's check it out">pic related is the first thing I see after opening the videoEvery single time.
>>1249250>40:06 I saw some people uh ask questions about voice um>40:12 we are in talks with vivox to try to figure this out and have this solved but>40:18 we can't really say anything more than that yes indeed we like we've noticed the issues uh we were in talks with>40:25 vivox and there's yeah there's not a lot more that we can do uh on that partAbsolute state of modern game development.
It all returns to nothing~
>>1249310Mostly but not entirely Dave's fault. 3 years of a stagnating and now declining platform hasn't helped.VRChat now has more daily players than every other made-for-VR game on Steam put together. Even if half of those are desktoppers it still applies...The only game left getting over 1k on PC every day is Gorilla Tag.PCVR's future outside of sims and trannies isn't looking good.
>>1249369VRChat is just next generation Second Life.SL's playerbase is aggressively forcing the migration, as far as I'm aware.
>>1249310>>1249369UE5 update and how they absolutely fucked modding totally killed the game on PC, that's the problem. I've seen multiple big modders for Pavlov say how the changes to modding and how they handled hosting them made it so frustrating they're done unless Pavlov makes big changes to it.
>>1249519They're finally getting around to expanding their modding possibilities but it's too little too late. As far as I can tell you still can't make your own gamemodes so it's not going to do anything the competition aren't already.The lack of updates in the years prior to UE5 made people look elsewhere, modders to Contractors or their own games and compfags to Breachers or Vail.You finally bring people back with the update then disappoint them when they realize they can't even play some of their favourite mods. Webm related, one of a trio of unique zombie maps that can't be played anymore. These were the only maps to make good use of the zombies in Pavlov. The first map got ported to UE5 and it's horribly broken. Even the creator has no idea why and he's since quit making Pavlov maps.It really screwed over the Pavlov SCP project too. They finally got the gamemode in a good place with more content planned and a regularly populated server. Then the update hits and it took months to port while introducing a ton of new bugs. The Pavlov devs even blacklisted the server at one point as a result of the bugs spreading beyond the server. By the time everything was resolved the playerbase was mostly gone and the modders all wanted to move on.
>>1249569It's a damn shame because there were a few game modes which Pavlov did so much better than others for mods. The Call of Duty Zombies was always a standout to me. Contractors now has it and a few maps, but while I still enjooy it in Contractors and you could argue Contractors is more "faithful", Pavlov did it so much better for fun factor and the social experience with VR.>Ability to share guns with people>Better spectating if you died>Better implementation of a few perks+wider perk variety>Visually looked much better>Better gun variety, particularly for wonder weapons>Less restrictive on ammoI could also use Quad-Views Foveated Rendering with Pavlov so even when running utterly retarded huge resolutions of something like 6000x7000 per eye I could still get over 100FPS+ quite reliably. No other game supports that so sucks to see Pavlov die.
>>1249589It says contractors has even less players than Pavlov though? Is there a game in VR that everyone plays that isn't VRChat?
>>1249608Contractors has crossplay with the Quest and supports mods, unlike Pavlov which doesn't support modding on PSVR2. So you can still find games relatively easily for mods, where as Pavlov you're kind of hosed at this point.
>>1249608Gorilla Tag :^) ;_;
>>1249611Makes sense, guess I'll buy it. No TTT though?
>>1249617Can't remember, sorry. I never was into TTT so never bothered checking. I don't believe so, however.
What happened to gmod 2.0 (whatever its name is) btw? I heard the dev lost his mind.Back in the days people were saying it would be big for vr.
>>1249569>It really screwed over the Pavlov SCP project tooDamn, that was one of my favorite things to play too
>>1249617No TTT and only a very simple roleplay mode compared to Pavlov.Contractors makes up for it with better custom player models, custom weapon loadout variety and full crossplay for nearly all mods which makes it much easier to find players. Star Wars, TF2, Halo, Titanfall (with wallrunning), WW2, Modern Warfare, Ninjas and Fallout New Vegas just off the top of my head. PUSH in Pavlov is better than WW2 in Contractors but when the PUSH servers are all empty it's a moot point.
>>1249628a metaphorical and literal shitpost
>>1132214How do you get performance to not be shitt. 4070 owner, processor uhhh I can't be assed to look it up rn but it's pretty darn good to be running every other vr game buttery smooth.
>>1250122>4070>for VRMy condolences. Should have researched before the purchase.
>>1160711Getting seasoned with VR is a thing, just take it slow. AS SOON AS YOUR FEELING SICK STOPI can't stress that enough it will fuck your whole day up if you fight it. Just stop for the day and try again tomorrow. >>1250124>works every other VR gameYea okay faggot.
>works every other VR gameYeah, keep telling yourself that.
I guess someone's gotta bump the the thread, but hoping for a little less retardation. :)
Can you just go back, you sound retarded.
Says the retard getting mad at 12am for absolutely zero reason.
For the newfriends who are reading, the minimum GPU from Ada gen is 4070 Ti Super.Everything below it has a manlet memory bus, which matters a lot for VR, because the gpu has to render at very high resolutions, especially with modern headsets if you want to have a clear image instead of a blurry mess. You will notice, that the more cores/bigger memory bus GPU has, the better it scales at higher res. In my personal opinion, 4090 is the only gpu worth buying from Ada, if you don't have the money I would for proper Ampere instead of wasting money on cucked trash.
>>1249369>1k on PC every day is Gorilla TagMeanwhile on Zuccnet.I'm fairly sure Contractors has 5x the playerbase of pavlov during peak NA hours.
>>1249628It's called s&box.
>>1250135Makes sense and all but I beat Alyx on a 1060 6gb so I think yall need to accept that you can lower the resolution and still have a great time once you immerse yourself into the game!
>>1250364Why is Gorilla Tag so popular, it seems a little silly. But I assume it must be swarmed with feral children.
>>1250598If VRChat is a bar or strip club in VR then Gorilla Tag is the playground at the park. Kids go there to hang out, run around and make noise. Rec Room had similar appeal but was watered down by pivoting to non-VR players.
>>1250534I mean the games are certainly "playable", but kinda similar to playing desktop games at 640x480. For shooters you want more than 2 pixels for your ironsights, if you plan to actually aim. And it was better before, when the display panels were lower resolution too, so you still get "sharpish" picture even if low-res. With "modern" headsets, even with something like Q2 which is a pretty old headset at this point, if you don't render at proper res everything just turns into a ps3-tier blurry mess.
Doktor, turn off my cringe inhibitors.
am i suppposed to buy my games on steam or the oculus store ?
oculus pcvr store is basically dead at this point.everyone uses steam
>>1251383They have a store page for games with cross-buy where you get both Quest and PCVR versions, if you think you'll play both it might be worth buying there. Referral codes mean it might be cheaper too.The only developer I know of that is incompetent enough not to support the Oculus runtime on Steam is Vertigo Games so if you want the less buggy and slightly better performing versions of their games use the Meta store too.
>>1251392>>1251385I have a dedicated access point for my rooom coming but the best place to play would probably be in the basement where there is a lot of open space. idk how good a connection i would get down there from my room. I don't really want to buy another AP either. I was thinking if i have the quest stand alone version I could just use that down there. I read the MP games can't be pirated.
>>1251403It's hard to go back to standalone after experiencing proper pcvr. If I were you, I would have tried to get the ethernet cable to the basement and put the router there.
>>1251406that would make sense but I like to watch quality vr videos and I need some privacy for that. ^_^
First gameplay trailer of ItR 2.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaV2WOCmNhk
the vr space has been going real heavy on the sequels lately
>>1252618And just when the janky black shadow enemies were growing on me.
>>1256827Enemies were the weakest part of the first game imo. Aside from bad performance and mainweapon-losing bugs.
>>1256845They definitely were. But I think I like the idea of very weird surreal abstract enemies in a game like that. If they had the kind of creativity, art, and rendering as Death Stranding's BTs for example, I think that could've been great.The thing that set ItR apart from STALKER in my mind was how it leaned more into surrealism.
>>1256847>The thing that set ItR apart from STALKER in my mind was how it leaned more into surrealism.I think it was more about embracing the limitations kind of thing.Originally ItR was supposed to have NPC's in the base etc. The thing with black blob enemies is that they are easy to design and don't take a lot of work to implement.
>>1256849Yeah and I'll agree that the results aren't great. It's pretty clearly programmer's graphics. But the game leans into surrealism really heavily in other places, like the fact that there's giant floating pieces of the landscape everywhere and stuff that seems ostensibly supernatural. STALKER never did that. Everything is more grounded in scientific (or pseudo-scientific) explanations. The Zone is a disturbance in the "noosphere," the Brain Scorcher is mad Soviet science, and so on. It gets more into that sort of Roadside Picnic flavor, which is still sci-fi aliens and stuff but has a lot more crazy and otherworldly.I guess what I'm saying is that I was hoping they'd go weirder with the enemy design. Personally I thought the Stomper, which is almost a direct Death Stranding homage, was one of the most memorable encounters in the game.
>>1256853>Personally I thought the Stomper was one of the most memorable encounters in the game.I agree. I still remember the exact moment I got this achievement. It was completely on accident. The boring shooty guys are weakest yeah. But maybe they will add something interesting too.
$45Fucking yikes.
>>1258302i saw that price and it make me gag
>>1258302>>1258319looks cool to mejk everything after this looks janky afi bet it looks cool in VR but lmao the gameplay
>>1251408Just have multiple drops going throughout the house? It isn't that hard and will save you many headaches for years to come. Not sure what your setup is like but I usually run them down into the basement then up through the walls or up into the attic then dropped into the rooms as needed.
So this is what winning looks like?
>>1258738>Overpriced>Arena fighter>Unresponsive waggle gameplay>Anime but not the cute style>Story is delivered in long loredumps between fights>On a dying platformWow who could have seen it coming...I'm sure it will sell better on the other two platforms (it's cheaper on Quest and PSVR2 can't refund lol).Have Japs even made any decent VR games post-PSVR1?
>>1258795>>Anime but not the cute styleArtstyle is fine imo.
>>1258795>Have Japs even made any decent VR games post-PSVR1?Last Labyrinth? But it's a bit of a ryona fetish bait. The same devs made The Tales of Onogoro, but the price is retarded too, so I've never played it actually.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arTYBSGI5iMI've never seen such a blatant shill review.
>Have Japs even made any decent VR games post-PSVR1?Chronos series?
>>1258812any REVIEW with TITLES like THIS can be safely ignored and the channel put on the hidelist
>>1258806Visually I agree but it's not a selling point like cute anime can be. Glorified visual novels and overpriced slice of life minigame packs are the best selling anime VR games on Steam. The ones mentioned >>1258809 sold significantly less if reviews are anything to go by.
>>1258841>Glorified visual novels and overpriced slice of life minigame packs are the best selling anime VR games on Steam.Every game should be moe ugu to sell, is that what you are saying?I rather have game with real substance instead of products which try to game-the-system so to speak just to sell more.
>>1258795>Have Japs even made any decent VR games post-PSVR1?If you like visual novels, Dyschronia is pretty great and just came out of Steam last month after ages of Quest and PSVR2 jail.
I will be honest with you, senpai-tachi, the game is fucking dogshit.
You might now like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.
Or like this.
Imagine charging $50 for that. But honestly, you can kinda understand. The production is there, at least some, so they obviously invested some money, but the game itself, is just, yeah.Eventually, when they will realize that it's highly unlikely that they will be able to recoup the investment, I bet they would think it's because the vr game industry is dead and not because they just made a bad game.
>the team has put tremendous effort into the story and emotional journey aspect, with a particular focus on character development and musicMaybe you should have focused on the gameplay instead? Just a thought.
>the team has put tremendous effort into the story and emotional journey aspectMy reaction to that information.
>>1258854I'm saying if you make an anime game that's all style and no substance you better have kawaii uguu fanservice in there or it's going to be a complete financial flop. The VR market is too small to get away with thoughlessly producing bland games for a niche within a niche.
>>1259040>I bet they would think it's because the vr game industry is dead and not because they just made a bad game.I cannot stand how many devs seem ready to blame everyone but themselves when their game fails. I've seen this happen more than once with VR games in particular. It's a smaller market than flatscreen, sure, but maybe you'll do better if you don't make a shit game?
AVP might get native support for PSVR2 controllers, which could be considered the best controllers on the market, feature wise.
>>1259878Just ~$4,100 (PC not included) and you can have the fanciest, jankiest, most duct-taped VR setup ever.
>>1259925If it comes duct-taped for AVP, it will be streamlined for AVP2.I personally could pay $4k for a headset with no compromises, what else is there to spend money on?And AVP is pretty close to that, the only downsides are lack of controllers, Wifi7 and proper software. That's easily fixable, in theory.
But what happens if PSVR2 user breaks one of his controllers?He have to buy a full kit again? Lmao, sony.
Absolute state of modern game development.
Okay, this is actually huge.
>>1262161>Meta Horizon OS devices will also use the same mobile companion app that Meta Quest owners use today—we’ll rename this as the Meta Horizon app.Nevermind.
Contractors showdown comes out today doesn't it? Any of you niggers planning to play? I missed the beta, but I recently got base contractors through quest+ (which is shit btw) and am in love with it so excited for more
>>1265826They've ruined the game with the last update. See >>1232469I'm not playing unless aimbot is gone.
>>1265831Lmao holy shit. I preordered and have watched videos they look fun, but yeah I can see myself getting damn mad at deaths thinking they're bullshit and knowing that the dev supports that bullshit. Will see how much I even notice, I'm old and shit at games anyways so may be looking at a 1:10 k/d without any fuckery
>>1265840They added aimbot in the very very last update. We only had ~2 day with it, but it was enough to completely kill my motivation. And I had 40+ hours already at that point. And not only it robs you of all sense of accomplishment, but it feels like shit, you have to actively fight it sometimes.
>>1265844Can you turn it off? If I can at least turn it off I'll be ok I guess, still mad when others use it. I'll have to find a discord and bitch about it, I'm sure that's how fags who sucked at aiming got it in the first place
Ahh can't join that dumb shit, they have one but looks like they're trying to push me to download an app for discord, used to be able to get on via view as desktop on my phone. So sick of technology, except VR. It's all gotten mega gay and frustrating. Contractors team will hear my complaint via reviews then.
>>1265867>Can you turn it off?Unless you can disable it for everyone there is no point. You can't be sure if you die to a skilled player who can aim or the aimbot. And the duels already became a dps check, so unless you are using it yourself, in close range fights you are dead. >I'll have to find a discord and bitch about it, I'm sure that's how fags who sucked at aiming got it in the first placeCall of Duty does it, so I don't expect the average retard on discord to be against it. Who cares that COD only enables aim assists for controllers which are inherently inaccurate, right?We need those epic montages for tiktok, even if there is no real skill involved. And don't let me get started on the retarded push of that cesspit called discord.
>>1265893I loathe discord too brother. I won't download an app for fucking anything. First time I used discord was about 6 months ago because I had a question for the Golf+ team. Would be nice if I could just email these people. Discord on my phone wouldn't auto correct any text for me and was a nightmare to use
Well anyways, got showdown installed and put a couple hours in to it. It's fun. The aim assist is obviously gay, I think the grenade assist is even gayer because I can't find a way to turn it off. What nonsense. But fun game, I've gotten only two kills in that time but I'm mostly going solo. Guess many people don't realize but when queuing you can untick "fill team" and it'll let you run solo. Also looks like the game has bots. Not sure how that works or why but I've encountered one or two just walking in a straight line. Fucking weird
Grenade assist is fine, throwing in vr is obnoxious and you need to use both hands anyway, so it's "balanced". The "bots" are just npc which spawn on the map, they drop money and self-revives.
>>1266286How many bots spawn per game? And hard disagree on the grenade thing. Anything I can do or simulate doing I want to do, I don't need some weird controller style bullshit for aiming my grenade
>>1266290Just don't extend your hand, so the assist lines don't show up.It's fine because throwing in vr is nothing like real life anyway, with the "let go of grip button" implementation of throwing having hl2vrmod throw assist is just better. >How many bots spawn per game?Depends on location. I don't think it's tied to the amount of players on the server though.
>>1266297>Just don't extend your handMeant to say "your other hand".
>>1266297Huh interesting about the bots, will keep an eye out for more info on that. I've seen very few compared to players, but makes a bit of sense considering map size and lower player count than other BRs to handle that way. I'll have to try it in the training room but without my left arm extended if I try to throw the grenade naturally it just drops in front of me, but I might have fucked something up. Idk I think Pavlov did very good natural throwing. Yeah it isn't perfect but I can throw where I want to without much margin of error. Contractors original is ok at it, worse than Pavlov but it works. Fuck even superhot had good throwing mechanics
>>1266305>I'll have to try it in the training room but without my left arm extended if I try to throw the grenade naturally it just drops in front of meHmm, only threw nades underhanded close range, that definitely worked. Maybe it doesn't work for the full swing, but why shouldn't it? Not sure, maybe it really doesn't. >I think Pavlov did very good natural throwing. Yeah it isn't perfect but I can throw where I want to without much margin of error. I've played a lot of WW2, but never could get really consistent. You also have to kinda let of go of grip pre-emtively a bit because otherwise you will lose momentum. Finicky. Not a fan of grip-centered throwing overall.
getting throwing right will require a vr dev to make an attempt at quaternion calculations and that is just absolutely beyond the capcities of these grifting faggots.
Quaternions are rotations, they are not going to help. You need to conserve momentum and "break" the hold depending on the physics simulation.Not a checkbox in unity, so that's too much to ask.
>>1266444how do you think a pitch works, anon? rotation is very much a part of throwing something.
>>1266472Quaternions are not useful for that. They are good for interpolating rotations. You don't use them in the physics simulation. If you can prove me wrong, be my guest.
And isn't pitching works because of air resistance? I don't think anyone simulates for that.
>>1266479How do you expect you're going to predict the path of a toss as the toss is occurring? What amount of rotation to apply to the object released from the hand based on the rotation and speed of travel of the tossing object? Quaternions simply are a way to represent a rotation mathematically (like Eulers but without gimbal problems when you do full rotations). They're like vectors for spinning.
>>1266489There is no air resistance, the object in free flight after the throw can be treated as a point. I only ever wrote basic physics sim based on symplectic euler before, so might not know everything, but if you have more expertise with that you would need to elaborate more, I don't see how quaternions are here at all.
>>1266492how quaternions are useful here at all*
>>1266492A human arm rotates all kinds of fuckin ways. So to get the product of a "toss" we're gonna have to not only look at the speed and arc and release point of the tossing mechanism (human arm), but how it is rotating through it's parabola as it moves to the release point. Here's a good article: https://www.americanscientist.org/article/predicting-a-baseballs-pathThat said, I am just intuiting that you are probably going to have to compound some quaternions here (you could use eulers, but quaternions are generally easier to work with and less computationally taxing). This isn't really a problem anyone has had to solve for vidja before, so I can't tell you exactly what the math would look like unless I sit down for a bunch of hours and work on it.
>>1266502> Here's a good article:Have you tried reading it? What part of "no air resistance in the simulation" you don't understand?
>>1266507Skip over that shit, it talks about arcs and spin too.
>>1266510The spin is irrelevant because there is no air resistance. The arc can be described with simple Newtonian mechanics.
>>1266515Yes but to represent a natural throw feeling we have to consider the orientation of the thrower's arm, is what I am getting at.
>>1266531It's good when it works. But even on your webm it more of a flick, which work more or less. The overhead throws on the other hand...
I'm not one of the autists debating the way to code throwing, but earlier I mentioned I couldn't throw grenades in Showdown manually, I just confirmed through some tests that is the case. The grenade underhand or overhand will only follow offhand. Really fucking stupid decision and I told them so in my review. I just don't see them ever backing off this assist stuff because once players are used to being babied you can't pull that stuff away
They changed it then. I can't find the footage, but I can distinctly remember throwing smoke underhanded to revive a teammate. And yeah, the aimbot stays on, there are 50+ positives reviews on steam and literally nobody even mentions it.
>>1267748I'm on quest and mentioned it in mine. I like the game a lot, I'll probably put a hundred hours in to it before getting bored and going back to golf+ and eleven, but I'm more annoyed that if this game takes off that'll be the new normal for VR shooters. The market is quick to say hey that worked let's copy it
>>1113841red hallway
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