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We need a medium salvage shipp

>>1543409
you need to get shoved in a locker rust huffer

>>1543409
>Current PTU Patch - 4.0 (looking to go live this Friday)
Yeah I'm not sure about this one chief.

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wake me when we'll get this

wait you can't buy any drug anymore for cargo hauling?
how are you supposed to make profits with small cargo ships from syulen to cutlass?

>>1543419
Kill bounties, loot their ships for drugs.
Alternatively (and I'm not 100% sure this is true) you could ferry ammunition to Pyro.
Some chucklefuck at CIG thought it would be a good idea to make sure that weapon shops have a finite supply of ammunition. So when retards buy ammunition in bulk for PVP, you're SOL unless you go to stanton.

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>>1543417
Chris is, and nothing will stop a marketing event.

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>>1543373
I have lots of folders, anon.
There's a 164MB "Tarps" folder with 279 files and 0 subfolders.
Then there's a 3.99GB "Cute and Funny" folder with 2,912 files and 27 subfolders
Both of them are inside a 8.52GB folder called "Ecchi", with 9,077 files and 120 subfolders.
Which is itself a subfolder in a 47.3GB folder called "Anime", with 62,524 files and a total of 698 subfolders
No episodes or manga volumes stored in there, either. It's all pictures, gifs, webms, and a few mp4s. I'm simply on a different level than you.

>>1543409
When will CIG increase the size of the loot boxes so we can get the fucking sub armours beyond just helmets?
I sneed my pembrooke armours Chris.

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anyone else can't log in?

>>1543562
fixed now

>>1543335
furthest i got in my lazy searching is that it's sirius from azur lane, not putting in the effort to see if it's in any of the results on the panda.

>>1543435
anime image spammers are all homos
you're fooling no one.
like maybe you are successfully lying to yourself
but no one who isnt a fag saves trap content.

>Do the pilot’s wing weapons play as gimballed when not remotely manned by dedicated gunners?

>Yes, if there is nobody in the seats that control the wing weapons, then the pilot has control of them, albeit locked in the forward arc. Due to their location, their convergence is limited frontally, so they are only suitable for targets at mid/long distance. However, when independently controlled, they have full freedom of motion and can look pretty much in a full 180+ degree arc in all directions, allowing players to engage targets below, above, and behind.
How is the visibility with the blast shields activated, and why should we activate the blast shields in the cockpit?

>Due to their location, their convergence is limited frontally, so they are only suitable for targets at mid/long distance.

the monkeys paw curls glad I didnt go for one, hope you fags didnt get got either.

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>>1543714
anime website

>>1543718
What's the subject though?

>>1543718
is this for the paladin?

>>1543801
>>1543804
yeah its from todays paladin q&a

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any message about the delay on this?

>>1543820
funny that it's still in infinitely better shape than the deemer
>lost its guns
>lost its shields
>still flies like a boat
>pilot gets 2 S4 and 2 S3
>turrets do nothing unmanned
>S I X size 2 shields are impossible to properly power

>>1543783
if this is in your trap folder you are truly in denial on multiple levels

>>1543872
retard

>>1543435
ngl i'd like a piece of that anime folder
>>1543714
>>1543783
>>1543872
kill yourself before you ruin another you retarded faggot

>>1543821
It's in the OP

are s4 and s5 missiles any good?
I know s3 are good but above the speed look too slow to do anything
s1 and s2 missiles are fast but do no damage

>>1543928
Missiles are pretty unreliable in general as far as I can tell, but when an S4 hits something you notice. If you can get the drop on an NPC bounty target, sometimes a single S4 is an instant kill. An S5 can cripple a Connie. You just have to get lucky because they can be pretty easy to dodge or countermeasure.

>>1543949
countermeasures are generally just too good for missiles to do a hell of a lot most of the time. much like how the PDCs make it so the current optimal polaris tactic is dryhumping the idrises that every pirate faction has an inexhaustible supply of to feed them torpedoes like a mother bird

>>1543975
This. PDCs are too reliable, and countermeasures are too effective. I'm all for countermeasures but when a single chaff/flare can defeat a double/quad launch of missiles they are too reliable. Even modern day missiles are more CM resistant than that.

Especially considering that multi-cm configuration is already part of the game. When I flew a support ship for my team in the Daymar Rally, I set up the 'panic button' to pop double chaff and 10 flares on a single input. Hit panic button, turn and burn. It worked great and this is how the mechanic should work - a pilot needs to decide the right balance between how many times they're able to pop CM vs how effective it will be and you should need to pop mumtiple charges to get a reliable counter.

As is, you almost have set your missile racks up so you have a bunch of S1s you can drip-feed to get an opponent to deplete their CMs before you launch real attacks with S3-4 missiles. Even then, larger ships have deep CM magazines. Overall I like the missile system I just think CMs need to be debuffed a bit, or trackers need to be buffed.

>sit Guardian Qi and Polaris between stations
>undock Qi, dampen carebears
>loot and scoot
Sounds alright.

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it's a whole different ball game when the AI fucking works
>looting allies for ammo
>throwing grenades at ships who's shields they can't break
>circling around and waiting for me at my fucking ship after I landed to flush the last of them out

>>1544025
Oh what the fuck, nevermind. Apparently it just prevents people from escaping, not actually catching them in space.
>quantum dampeners, interdictors and enforcement devices all do different shit
CIG's naming conventions SUCK

>>1544025
>accelerates full speed into your polaris
You have made today a very good day to die.

>>1544058
that's been the case since the mantis, do you even pvp

>>1544064
That's just an isolated incident.

>>1544071
>mantis
>2 s3 gimbals
Oh my fucking god, solo piracy must be a nightmare in this game
No wonder people prefer to blow shit up instead of asking them to drop their cargo

>>1544076
Even if you successfully pirate, most dad's just detonate their ships out of spite anyway.
For as much as they say they want "proper" pvp, they refuse to engage with it even when it's done properly.

>>1544073
>does it again
What now?

Why do most freelancer variants have less HP than the base?
Why does the 315p even has a tractor beam?
Why is pyro loot worth less for time invested than stanton drug looting?
Whats even the purpose of advanced scanners like Terrapin, Aquilla, etc?
Wtf is the cutter rambler even used for besides transporting the player himself?

So many questions, so little time...

>>1544089
The crew working on the PU are basically the retard squad.
All of the talent is on S42 and won't be off it till it releases at the very end of 2026 (lol, lmao).

>>1544089
>Why do most freelancer variants have less HP than the base?
Freelancer is one of the most dated, and poorly aged models in the game. Which sucks because in theory a Freelancer MIS is my favorite ship but it's actually an ugly piece of shit.
>Why does the 315p even has a tractor beam?
300 series was supposed to be a premium line with the 300 representating a major upgrade over basic starters like the Aurora/Mustang, the 325a being an ideal bounty hunting ship able to mog light fighters and overrun fleeing criminals with superior speed, and the 315 being a solo explorer with a tractor beam for gameplay that nobody had even bothered thinking about.

Then it got powercrept to oblivion. The 325 is significantly out gunned by even light fighters and has a missile loadout which is too unreliable to make up for the garbage capacitor.

>>1544089
for me, it's wondering why the reclaimer doesn't have capital sized scrapers and as a result is basically a vulture with a larger buffer that needs three people for the same functionality

>>1544085
>mr president, a second aurora has hit the polaris

>>1544113
>Worse than that, it stuck on the fuselage somehow, it's twitching very fast, how is this possible? are we inside a poorly programmed simulation?
>Polaris blows up

4.0.3.24.3.wipe.noprog.evoalphaptulive

>>1543399
>forgot to title the fucking thread and only just realised it now
kill me

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/20371-Letter-From-The-Chairman

>>1544167
Lol, lmao even

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>>1544167
>This may feel like our usual PTU process, but there is one key difference: by running both builds on the Live environment, we can take steps to ensure that your progress on 4.0 will carry over. Our goal is for anything you do and earn in the 4.0 Preview to persist without any further wipes—unless something major happens, though we do not anticipate that.
Alright, well.. okay? I guess?
You need a third party marketing team chris, that's all I'm saying.

>"multiple smaller shields can be a bonus in terms of redundancy and regen rates versus one larger shield"
>redeemer: 37020 max shielding, 2244 max regen, 24.62s full charge
>costs 18 fucking power
>paladin: 60,000 max shielding, 3310 max regen, 27.06s full charge
>for FIVE power
these retards had better have a massive shield rework in mind for the redeemer or they're really smoking something good.

>front entrance and an elevator in the back
gods ship

so does the "qi" give anything up for the its Qdampener or is it just better?

>be me
>have sweet dreaam
>just woke up by a storm
>see 4.0 drop 10 minutes ago
bruh should I sleep again or update

>>1544369
maneuverability, other than the vanguard hoplite it's objectively the least maneuverable heavy fighter tied with the f8c

what the fuck is a "preview", is the shit out or not

>>1544384
it's for
>we released it
>it's full of bug
>it's ok because it's a preview

>>1544379
the qd one vs the regular on I mean.
do they have different agility?

>This may feel similar to our usual PTU process, but there’s one key difference: by running both builds on the live environment, we can take steps to ensure that your progress will carry over. Our goal is for anything you do and earn in the 4.0 Preview to persist without any further wipes.
you can start your loot gobelin journey

4.0 preview is up
Also the guardian is in the shop

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>>1544391
>guardian is in the shop
but where is the mirai suit?

>>1544385
also
>buy our new ship

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>>1544369
Higher emission signature. Easier to detect at range.
Has a larger power plant, but the QD puts strain on energy weapons.
Heavier, less maneuverable.
The primary benefits of this ship are
>longer jump range than the Scorpius Antares (less than the vanguard series)
>it has living quarters
>it doesn't need two people to activate the QD
>it can fit inside a polaris
It's not the best pirate ship but it's alright.

>>1544394
>tfw correctly predicted price points during iae and CCU goblind to within 10 of either variant.
Can get the QDampener version for literally $5.
Regular version will be 10.

>project entropia is STILL alive
damn, what is it with space games and stockholm syndrome fanbases
although I'm sure PE was some kind of money laundering scheme from the outset, not an outright cult

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You don't need the base old version installed to play 4.0 right? I deleted 3.24 and installed 4.0 but it crashed on launch. Verify does nothing. I don't want to uninstall and reinstall the whole fucking thing again.

>>1544533
Did you restart your PC?

>>1544539
Yeah, didn't do anything. I just gave up and am redownloading it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE3ePRgpUQo

One bug you guys will encounter in 4.0 is having the quantum jump not function properly when jumping to an orbital station (Seraphim for example) after leaving a planet's atmosphere. To work around that, just qt anywhere else (OM markers for example) and then you will be able to make the trip to your local station.

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Rate.

>>1544587
decent, but Ive become unenthused about the Zues as a solo ship. I had an MR for a while but right around the time the other two launched I just kinda lost interest in it. Made it into a starlancer and then made the starlancer into a Guardian

>>1544589
I think the CL is still pretty good for cargo running. I've been running it for hauling missions and it's very effective. The cargo space is tight though. I can't imagine doing anything else in it because it's garbage for combat.

Pisces Medical or Cutty Red if I'm looking to do solo medical stuff?

>>1544600
Steep difference in price between the two. Obviously the cutlass red is better. But the pisces is nice if you want the bare minimum to be effective.

>>1544587
Zeus is okay but if you have a warbond CCU to the Starlancer Max I personally think the extra $30 to chain into it is well worth the investment since it has double the firepower and nearly double the cargo capacity plus a much better cargo grid. Bit of a whale to fly though.

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>>1544542
Finally got in, and fell through the floor at the first outpost I landed on.

Okay why the fuck does every hauling contract in Pyro have 4 SCU boxes? Is there a single starter ship that can even fit a 4 SCU box on grid?

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>>1544628
Well I mean...

>>1544634
Sorry, I meant a reasonable starter, not one for shameless paypigs.

>>1544628
Cheapest "starter ship" that can carry 4 SCU is the Nomad.

https://discord.com/invite/QxNfp5xP if you want to play league of legends with friends (don't come if you are toxic pls)

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>>1544653
Nice honeypot Chris

Hows Pyro loot? Bounty hunting and salvage missions specifically?

why are there no ship combat bounty missions spawning?

>>1544613
Starlancer seems good but it's also huge. I really dislike the cockpit view as well although I understand you aren't going to be doing any fighting in it.

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that feel when not at want for a single additional ship

>>1544714
I use the massive dashboard to put a decoration there. Makes it seem comfier.
Although them ripping the MFDs out of view is a dogshit decision and whoever was responsible for it needs to be shot.

>>1544717
You seem quite low person focused with the zeus and guardian, wouldn't a perseus be better than a polaris?

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>>1544720
i'm quite happy with the big bitch concerning the eventuality of press ganging hearties and the destitute and such into crew, pretty much the foremost multicrew platform it seems to me
it's also a rather opulently appointed ship concerning facilities and capacities
nice to have, when the opportunity or niche or simple want for use arises, all too pleased to let it sit the rest of the time
besides that it's too big for anything else to really eat concerning zooming around pyro for instance and makes a mean armoured transport even manned by a lone pilot
boy is it fucking fun to fly too

>>1544700
They spawn occasionally but seem to be broken. I've completed the pyro low risk verification mission twice now and not had the kill count.

Where's the system-wide EMP that the sun lets off?

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>>1544393
i need it

>>1544753
not included in 4.0
was cut with engineering and a bunch of other stuff because server meshing is shit and they're desperate to get it working

>>1544754
>pic
Give me my titan suit CIG
Do it

>>1544771
holy shit, how fucking incompetent are these bongs

>>1544802
>bongs
The issue is the head bong.

>>1544600
honestly the med bed is only good for respawning yourself in it, not for actual med gameplay
you just need a med gun for med gameplay
even if you pay for a big ship with a bed you wont be able to heal everything
your best bet is always to use the magic gun with auto drug in it

so just get any ship you want

>>1544600
the apollo medivac would probably be the ambulance of choice because it'll have a module to swap the beds for one that can fix all injuries, but it doesn't exist yet and there's no guarantee we'll actually get those conversion modules. it's also only available occasionally, but it comes with a cutlass red as a loaner.

>>1544717
You love your triangles

>>1544820
the concept is so outdated honestly, it better have a really big up or it wont sold good

>>1544717
can you fit the guardian in the polaris hanger with a F7A?

>>1544857
You can comfortably fit 2 guardians in the polaris so maybe? It'll definitely be tight though.

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>tfw they just shadowdrop the long awaited 4.0 (albeit in a beta) like it was just a minor bugfix patch
now what

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>>1544885
you play
i hope you have a goal for your sandbox m8

>>1544875
>fit 2 guardians in the polaris
How will cig nerf this

>>1544899
>fit a long distance ship inside a long distance ship
>nerf this
it wouldnt change anything

>>1544899
It's already countered by the connie having a size merlin torpedo strapped to the back.

>>1544903
It's a fantastic one hitter too

I like the settlements in Pyro but the stations suck ass.

do we have good server fps finally or at least stable fps above 10

>>1544921
it's above 10 server fps when I played earlier but it has a bunch of bugs
>ships sometimes don't jump to quantum marker but somewhere else
>a lot of missions don't work
>occasionally fall through planet surface

>>1544921
Buggy as all hell, but frames have been pretty stable. Better in Pyro than Stanton but both pretty good.

>guardian can fit a 2scu box, 2x 1scu boxes, or a mirai pulse inside. You can even put a pulse and a 1scu box into the interior easily
Fuck

>>1544942
at this point, you might as well just use the cutlass black/blue

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>>1544942
It's insanely good in general. I haven't done serious combat in mine yet but as a solo merc transport it's fucking awesome, over a million personal storage split between interior and exterior access, two separate gun racks, fast to get in and out, etc. Flies really nice too. It may legitimately be my favorite ship in the game now.

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strongly considering this
thoughts?
>Hangar as of right now (all LTI)
Avenger Titan -> mining ship???
Anvil Arrow -> Zeus MkII CL (cargo)
Anvil Hawk (light fighter)
Anvil Legionnaire -> Mirai Guardian QI (heavy fighter)

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>>1544955
Guardian is awesome, I'd do it, though maybe not the Qi. If you're spending actual money don't just buy that CCU though, you can save $60 with a chain.

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>>1544942
i suspected that you could shove a pulse up its asshole

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the guardian is easily the best ship in the game

>spend some time flicking through streamers
>chill ones are all having great times, few bugs but minimal issues
>flick to avenger_one
>got stuck in prison for five hours
>declared he is going to “slaughter everyone” cause CIG wasted his time
>keeps encountering bugs and glitches while trying to camp the Pyro jump point and lock down travel
Why didn’t they announce 4.0 included karmic bug features? Hilarious to watch this self proclaimed expert get angrier and angrier as he “tries to show CIG the flaws in Pyro”

>>1544955
Also I'd say to consider the regular Guardian unless you're really really into piracy or PvP BH. It's cheaper anyway so you can always CCU to the Qi later if you need to.

Rate my guardian build
https://www.erkul.games/loadout/GJy7oOJ4
and if stealth and combat components aren't available because muh eff pee ess.
https://www.erkul.games/loadout/BElAvpnI

>>1544981
I was under the impression that the QI model is vastly superior utility-wise and the difference to speed and handling would only be noticed on paper. People who have flown both say they hardly feel different?

>>1544987
I cannot notice a difference between the guardian and QI in terms of manoeuvrability. The QI has the option of a dampner even if you don't use it and put the power elsewhere and comes stock with better power plants for 10 bucks more. I can't see any reason to go with the standard one unless you really want to squeeze out all the manoeuvrability you can because you're an ace pilot or something.

>>1544987
Qi might be “subject to future balancing” exactly because it doesn’t seem overly different right now.
Or base guardian might get buffs, so the safest play is get a base guardian + 10 ccu to Qi and see how it pans out

>>1544991
Good call. Didn't think about future balancing. All the people saying it barely feels different might be reason enough for CIG to fuck with it.

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>>1544987
>>1544990
>>1544991
the barest whiff of a hint of difference on top speed and the most major difference otherwise is a loss of 10 degrees/s on rolls.

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>can't spawn in-universe
>repair character
>spawn in hangar, keep getting stunned for five seconds
>exit and enter server
>spawn in a hell where there are multiple people and ships in a single hangar
>exit and enter server
>successfully enter elevator
>can't buy food, water etc
>exit and enter server
>can't spawn a ship

>>1544987
My main concern is power management, 2xS1 is already weak for this sort of ship and the Qi adds a lot of demand, and it's made worse by the fact that you can't just go buy the best power plants anymore (and the Qi's are nowhere near good enough to make up for it either). Also ten bucks is ten bucks and personally I don't feel like I'll use the dampener enough to be worth it.

>>1544985
why the fuck does it have so many power bars in engines. What does giving more power to engines even do besides improving boost recharge speed

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qi is the trve GARdian

>>1544999
HOW DARE YOU SAY BAD THINGS ABOUT CHRIS ROBERTS VISION!!!!!

>>1545011
man's got astimgatism, myopia and hyperopia

>>1545015
>astimgatism
Prostagma?

>>1544974
If I was a dev on Christmas break I would just float around invisible fucking with people through dev commands all day.

>>1545020
forgive the accidentally transposed letters that sully the quality of my joke about a game's visionary being blind

>>1544997
I don't wanna get out of queue but I'll pull the flight controller later and look at the real soft stats

>>1545030
yeah, those are the stats that erkul has listed for the PTU so they may or may not be different. either way, this is the company that fucked up the ion and the redeemer, so it wouldn't surprise me if they fucked up the qi in an attempt to make it "more different" from the base ship

>>1545020
Stomps

>>1545050
Fucking autocorrect.
*etimos

>>1545034
alright so I took a look and yep it's literally just the hard stats all the soft stats are the same the only difference is what you see on erkul and spviewer as far as flight controller goes.

The Quantum interdictor on the Guardian QI does weight about 300kg's as an entity so the QI should weigh more dry aswell.

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still made out of styrofoam

Ballistics or lasers for pirate shenanigans?

>>1545079
probably lasers for pyro if only because rearming will be difficult until they do something about adding reloading for ballistics.

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First jump was fucking sweet. The new music is awesome and it all worked seamlessly.

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i genuinely want to know how they keep fucking this retarded thing up

Does server meshing work? Does it make the game run any better on the server side? I just want AI to fucking work already. It's been a decade...

>>1545113
why would you even use such an ugly ship?

>>1545116
It actually makes the servers worse.

It's worth noting in the guardian QA they say the QI variant is meant to be identical to the standard guardian just slightly heavier.

>>1545123
Just add more servers then. Isn't that the point?

>>1545126
It would be but Chris told them to do standard server meshing instead of dynamic for the last 4 years so it's actually garbage and barely works. You can personally thank Chris for that decision.

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>>1545128
CHRIS!!!

>>1545125
seems like they won't nerf it into the ground unless the standard model gets nerfed too.

Why do the Pyro contracts keep taking me to the same location over and over. Bloom has like 10+ locations but all the mercenary seem to keep going to the same spot.

>>1545116
Seems to be okay. I'm seeing server FPS numbers I've never seen before in Pyro, but I haven't gone back to stanton to compare.

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>your old shard experienced some issue. please give it a few minutes and try again

>those who decided to spawn in Stanton are being tortured by the devil for their cowardice
heh

>>1545173
i spawned in stanton and traveled to pyro just fine

>>1545118
solid shields, armament, and 696 scu of cargo. the inside isn't bad looking either

>>1545173
I spawned there to gobble up neglected loot before shipping over, but looting is broken
>skipping the jump tunnel
>not cowardice

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>solid 30 server fps regardless of where I join
They actually fucking did it.

>>1544974
Amazing. Is he still melting?

>>1545079
Ballistic DPS is fake news because of 50% damage reduction

>>1545221
it's not reduced it's split, a chunk of it goes straight to hull, bypassing shields

>>1545223
and that chunk is reduced by 50%, before already being reduced by the shields.

>>1545213
>shards keep crashing and are unrecoverable
>the monkey paw finger curls

>>1545240
It's just a test on an alpha bro, it's okay, the devs are competent.

>>1545221
Energy damage gets reduced by both armor and shields as well retardo.

They added a chess board to the carrack and removed some of the shit from the shelves to make space for decorations in the captain's office.
Neat.

>>1545255
incorrect, most ships have 0% energy reduction and at minimum 50% physical.

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>>1545255
And here's some actual proof, retardo.
>1=100% damage
>.5= 50% damage

>>1545283
explain this chart to me like im retarded

>>1545286
>find ship you want to learn about
>let's do the vanguard sentinel at the top
>.45 physical damage
>that means you do 45% physical damage to it, or it has 55% resistance
>your ballistic shots do physical damage so they do half damage
>literally every physical shot that ever hits the hull will only do 45% of advertised damage
>.93 laser damage
>lasers do 93% damage to hull
>lasers will only ever do 93% of advertised damage to this ship
and so on

>>1545294
>that means you do 45% physical damage to it, or it has 55% resistance
For what purpose

>>1545254
i finally got a server that was stable enough to let me stack eight hauling missions to the same two destinations, so that was neat.

>>1545298
To simulate armor.
Shields also have resistance alongside absorption. Resistance reduces the damage dealt, and absorption means damage to the shield.
When you fire a ballistic weapon at a ship, it hits the shield. It's first reduced by ~8.3%. Of the 91.7% that remains, about 10% damages the shield HP. 81.7% then passed through the shield, and impacts the hull. Given an average 50% reduction, 43.55% of the starting damage value is applied as HP loss to the component.

Energy weapons hitting shields are resisted by 16.5%, then applying remaining damage to shield HP. Once shields are down, energy weapons are doing 100% damage, minus a few outliers that have minor energy resistance and a few others that actually take increased damage from energy weapons.
The F7A Mk2 takes 103% damage from energy weapons.

>>1545286
Higher number = bad

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The fluff says my sukoran banu bird shield means I'm fucking invincible dude.

>>1545346
that ain't even a banu, it's a tevarin
>>1545342
when they properly implement armor will I be able to get quick kills by hosing down the cockpit with ballistics again? that was actually a thing in the very first dogfighting module but hasn't been possible for many years.

>>1545384
>when they properly implement armor will I be able to get quick kills by hosing down the cockpit with ballistics again?
Fuck no, that sounds terrible, also, glass on ships are not fragile in any sense, so that's all but confirmed to never be returning.

>>1545386
well that's gae

>>1543459
They changed the effective z-axis of armor dimensions when stored so it's possible.

>>1545283
>>1545280
Laser damage is reduced based on shield strength retardo. Sit back down monkey.

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>Massive layoffs at cig
>Upper management restructuring
>Lead core gameplay dev leaves (forced out) at cig
>4.0 implemented successfully according to dev
Holy fuck the collapse is actually happening.

>>1543459
there is entire suits of armor lootable in stanton if you know where to look icluding subber stuff

>>1545493
nobody cares, you've been coping like this for nearly a decade now

>>1545506
>NOOO CHRIS THEYRE TALIING BAD ABIUT YOUUU NOOO NOOOOOO STOP HOW DARE YOUUUU!!!!
EOS soon fatty hahahaha!

>>1545386
>>1545384
>>1545400
supposedly the "glass" is actually a transparent metallic diamond laminate of some sort that its actually stronger than the materials used in ship hull and even some armor, but also massively more expensive, particularly in large complex shapes. Which is why windows are a luxury feature and why el cheapo ship manufacturers like RSI and Drake have faceted windows made of small flat plates while Origin makes these huge wraparound panels and Crusader, an upscale ship company has large angular single piece canopies.
Glass = Status symbol and unless your ship has milspec armor the glass is actually the toughest part of the hull.

>>1545514
where would you put MISC's mailslot glass in the status scale? id say same tier as Crusader
tfw prospector has a massive wraparound dome

I will not play this game until they implement 1:1 scale and make planets scientifically accurate.

>>1545516
yeah Misc and Crusader are similar in terms of the quality and extras level they operate at, with MISC being a little more industrial and utilitarian and Crus being a little more Idealistic and Flashy.

Misc's wide wrapped view slots are certainly not luxurious but they are not poverty core either, and liek you pointed out they do have a couple spectacular bubble canopies. The Reliant series and Prospoector obviously, but also the Hull A, possibly the Odyssey and and even the Hull-E has a large semi-dome in concept art.

>>1545536
based

What the fuck is this preview bullshit? is it a live build? just call it a fucking live build

>>1545613
They can't replace 3.24 in case 4.0 has some insidious shithead bug that makes the build unplayable.
This way, they can pilpul their way into saying they got 4.0 out before 2025 but also avoid the shitshow of releasing an undercooked live build with no fallback.

lol people talking about how the jews created communism in global

Reminder that Stanton and Hurston (the stars) are still 6x the size they're supposed to be and I'm seemingly the only one bringing this issue up.

MicroTech is 1.98 AU from Stanton, yet Stanton looks like it's being viewed from Earth. Mars is 1.5 AU from Sol, and already looks tiny compared to how it looks from Earth.

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>>1545627
My genuine reaction to that information.

>>1545626
based

>everyone quantum is stuck into the sun
time to fix the hotfix cig

>>1545627
considering the biggest planet is smaller than earth, everything being weird scale is no surprise, i hope one day we get bigger planets, wouldnt mind a system with 1 massive planet

idgi do i install the hotfix or the preview?

>retaliator's headlights lights are always on
>using the headlight key just turns on your high beams
neat

>>1545655
No, everything else is scaled correctly, but the suns are scaled x6 larger than they should be.

You can also see it like this:
>planets are scaled down 1/6 of their canon size
>distances are scaled down 1/10 of their canon size
>the suns are supposed to be scaled down 1/6, but are actually their real canon size

Why is the hotfix an entirely different install?

>>1545670
cus its in the PTU still while the "preview" piggybacks the live client.

>>1545670
While it is a separate install, you can just rename the main live file to "HOTFIX" and not have to download an entire new client, plus the hotfix channel does not exist separately from live servers, so you can continue playing and earning progress as usual. In this instance, the hotfix actually breaks QT even more than it is on live, so I wouldn't bother with it.

>log into game
>everything seems fine
>outer hanger doors don't open
>AGAIN
These people are incompetent.

>>1545670
untested hotfix, only use if normal doesnt work for you

>>1545492
What a thesis, considering we're talking about hull damage and shields *also* reduce ballistics.

Fag

>>1545613
supposedly it will maintain progress when it goes to full live

>>1545660
nobody wants a tiny pinhole sun, people want to see a big ball of gas in the sky. this means making everything much closer or making it much bigger.

look at how lame and tiny the moons of stanton are from the planet surfaces. in Pyro they look huge and cool and all scifi in the sky. because they're way too big and close. sorry but that's what the people want.

Should I fill out their survey?

When is the free lti ship event in pyro? I'm not gonna deal with the bugs until that happens.

Verse Project is going to kill Scam Shitizen.

>>1545808
I think you have been misled. you can get a free ship equivalent to one bought with auec, not an LTI one

>>1545824
Dev team pls shill your tech demo elsewhere.

>>1545656
Install preview.
If you have consistent problems with Quantum flying you in weird directions then rename the install folder HOTFIX and install hotfix.

My loading screen never goes away. When I move my mouse around a thin band of pixels on the edge of the screen show some movement and pressing escape brings up a mouse cursor like it's letting me access a menu so it seems like loading is done but its just not letting me see anything.

Only way I can actually play is if I load up a race. Is there a workaround for this?

>>1545834
Then what's the point of having it be like 7 secret missions of scavenger hunt? You could just do literally anything for a few minutes and afford whatever ship you get in a tenth the time.

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>>1545824
>Verse Project
Not with cockpit like this it won't.

>>1545912
Have you tried Character repair? If Arena Commander works but not Persistent Universe I would assume there's a problem with the hangar it's trying to spawn you in.

>>1545943
Apparently they come preloaded with Grade A military components and good weapons. Also have special skins.

Also you can't buy the F-8C in game, and most of the other ships in the scavenger hunt are pretty good as well. It's just that it should play the bankrupt sound from Price is Right if you get the Syulen.

>>1545960
The rockets are made to look like actual landers. They even have traditional rocket engines underneath. Go back to your sci-fi space planes kid.

>>1545824
It seems cool but it's a different kind of autism and I don't think it'll appeal to most of the people that are into SC, who want a Star Wars/Star Trek/etc. space fantasy in a huge universe with aliens, all kinds of living worlds, etc. and not an Expanse-style semi-hard sci-fi game set in our solar system.

>>1545972
You can get a decked out F7A Mk2 as well, also a ship that you can't get ingame. (Or at all if you didn't complete Overdrive.)

>>1545493
>massive layoffs
12 people out of 1200 btw.

>>1545824
>rocket science autism
It will be a miracle if it survives. That sort of thing requires heavy financial investments into tech and art, while having very limited demographic appeal. KSP is like that and survived primarily because they went with stylized and simple cartoon style, foregoing the fidelity.

>>1546007
nta but the real concern I have regarding cig is the bleeding of senior devs theyve been doing for the last couple years.

I think the actually competent talented people are getting fed up with chris meddling in every little thing and changing stuff over and over and just leaving for better paying jobs with less absurdly incompetent management.

And they're being replace with less capable people with shit taste and no vision. Yogi was literally who a couple years ago and now he almost seems to be in charge of the flight model and the changes hes made have literally all been shit.

>>1546040
I dunno, their senior devs have been there for a decade already and they are bleeding out very slowly, maybe a couple of them quit every 4-5 years so far. The Character Art Director changed the most, they are on their 3rd one atm. All their senior tech devs are still there, on the other hand. I think they are doing their best to retain those guys, since the tech they are working on is pretty unique and is the core of the whole project.

>>1546040
It's industry wide and financially motivated really. The end of cheap low interest cash blindsided an industry that had spent over a decade playing fast and loose with their finances. Honestly I'd expect the financial situation to get much much worse so it's really a situation of batten down the hatches or get riggidy rekt.

CIG for their part has done a number of things largely to cut costs in this environment. A return-to-office order to prune teams. Then functionally shuttering or downsizing offices in countries with limited subsidy or tax incentives like the US. They then centralized at Manchester, a lot of the lost senior staff were people like Todd Pappy who didn't want to move because their family has set down roots in Austin.

>>1546053
Im also worried about an unlearnable spaghetti code situation with dev taking this long. There gonna reach a point like wow has where they can't alter anything without causing a bug cascade cus theres too much ancient arcane code that no one remembers what it does buried in the depths.

I know we lost todd papy last year.
Theres been a couple other lately but the names arnt popping to mind, but like, long time recognizable people. Obviously sometimes people just have to move on for various reasons, but Ive had the feeling for a while that chris is far outclassed by many of his employees in terms of organizational skill, focus and planning. It must be very frustrating for some of them to have a system 85% done and then have him pop in and tell them to change 30% of it to accommodate a feature from whatever movie he watch last weekend. Which will of course require sanity checks on 2/3 of the game and cause a dozen new bugs.

like I know its been said but the fact they are reworking the flight models again, and doing it in such a half assed arbitrary and hamfisted way, over the objections of 2/3 of the community, 12 years in, is just unfathomable.

Like how was this not locked down as the centerpiece of the game, 8 years ago.

>>1546067
So far they are drastically changing everything already almost every patch, so I don't think they have reached the level of complacency that would lead to such problems.

>>1546067
>Like how was this not locked down as the centerpiece of the game, 8 years ago
Because back then people also shat on every single change. Literally every flight model they tried, people hated. I bet they would be shitstorm no matter what they did at this point. They should just decide on one direction and just ignore the community at this point, fuck this shit. Adapt or fuck off, I want the game to be finished in my lifetime.

>can't leave the hanger

>>1546067
>Im also worried about an unlearnable spaghetti code situation with dev taking this long.
I wouldn't worry about that, CIG is kinda nuts, if the datacore is anything to go off of. I mean holy shit they literally just completely redid how geometry is stored like 3 months ago into this insane neva been done b4 custom method. They are absolutely not afraid of completely rewriting things.

>>1546040
>>1546061

Game industry is in a slump, layoffs all over. T. Soon to be laid off or furlowed

>>1546195
Though, that shouldn't matter to Star Citizen since its funding is just fine.

Could be they are getting rid of squeaky wheels. A lot of useless people in Game Development these days.

where the FUCK is the pembroke armor now

I think I don't like Pyro. I figured I be fine with it, as I used to love and play open PVP games, so that aspect didn't bother me, but since starting I have had zero interactions with other players other than being attacked, killed and/or robbed. No communication, no help, no nothing, people just roll up on you and start blasting. Not only that, but contracts take you to one of like only 2 areas for every planet so there are always people to kill you. Like there is no purpose to chat anymore, everyone is just playing Tarkov on a giant map, and even worse there are pay to win fuckers going around in ships I have zero chance of beating in a fair fight.

>>1545824
This looks honestly looks amazing and like my only hope now that SC has abandoned sim autism in favour of derivative shoot guy and build bases gameplay.

Won't be spending 3 grand for them to rug pull the game at the last hour like CIG have though.

>>1546326
that's basically how MMO pvp with no consequences goes, you eventually just wind up with people killing for the sake of killing, and everyone's doing it because someone else did it to them one time

>>1546326
>I have zero chance of beating in a fair fight.
thats why you have an escape button

>>1546371
Nah, I played Shadowbane and even it wasn't this bad. Probably because in that you needed to be in a group to do anything, and groups were harder to fight alone, so not as many random gankers.

>>1546382
it's going to be worse right now because pyro is the new hotness, but this is going to remain a thing going forward unless CIG tries to disincentivize it, or everyone starts traveling in large, vetted groups that they can trust but then you're going to start getting EVE levels of opsec autism.

I keep saying it and I keep getting shouted down for it.

pvp hostility lacks meaningful consequences and until it gets them the random pointless attacks will only escalate, leading to screaming in the community and the implementation of a pvp toggle or pve shards. Both of which will be terrible for the health of the game long term.
The solution is in game law enforcement having teeth.

instant fines and eventual permared leading to powerful npcs, gunships and fighters not avengers, dropping in and attacking reds unprovoked when detected in monitored comm array space, gang rep loss and large, escalating bounties making life hard in lawless space if the crime can be linked to you via black box.

finding and destroying the black box should be a mandatory activity. and returning to a gang station you're repped with with the black box after someone has attacked should put a pirate bounty on the attacker. Obviously if you have no friendly factions theres no one to do this with.
returning a black box to a UEE station should put the crimes on the aggressors record.

for long term health the game itself needs to respond to reckless aggression because player response will always be an unreliable deterrent.
I don't wanna see pve servers and I dont wanna see the game devolve into massive blobbing the game ecosystem is supposed to be 10% human 90% npc and that needs to include law enforcement. 9 times out of ten if a pirate gets attacked by a hunter or cop that attacker should be an NPC in a relatively hot combat ship. Like a crewed Zues MR or Cutlass blue with high skill gunners and pilots.

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>>1546398
For terra this is fine, but outside high sec there is no point. Anons are right to shout you down. If terra is the same as pyro then you will be correct, but other than that your argument is moot.

>>1546412
stanton is effectively the same as pyro and it shouldn't be that way. the only reason this is happening so widely in pyro is that people are focused on it as the pirate system, but theres virtually nothing different about stanton. Just crimestat, which is almost meaningless.

I agree that pyro should be very dangerous and that the only "law enforcement" there should be gangs settling scores and bounty hunters. My point is that the gangs and bounty hunters should be actively going after people who murder at random on their turf or its not really their turf is it?

Stanton is supposed to be a mi-high sec system depending on where you are. Like .6 to 1.0 in eve terms. with like Hurston and Crusader being 1.0 high security places Arccorp being maybe a .9 area moons being .6 if the comm array is up and grimhex being a nice little pocket of .4, though now that pyro exists I suspect grimhex might change some and become slightly more regulated, like still a pirate station where anyone can dock but maybe have low priority comm monitoring.
I am still perma annoyed that GH isnt a main spawn option.

>>1546398
All that shit would require real effort, that would take CIG at least a year to implement, and it would be half finished and not work half the time.

>>1546398
Stop posting and leave

>pembroke straight up removed from vendors as far as anyone can tell
>next best armor for high temperature is fucking morzov redshift
>it's spread out across the entire fucking galaxy like a treasure hunt because no single vendor stocks all five pieces
this game isn't made by human beings of rational thought. what kind of fucking store would stock only a SINGLE piece of a FULL ARMOR SET when they stock full sets of everything else they sell.

>>1546426
>My point is that the gangs and bounty hunters should be actively going after people who murder at random on their turf or its not really their turf is it?
Pyro is not the Wild West. The Wild West had sheriffs and the US Marshals.
Pyro is Somalia. Lawless as is there literally is no rule of law, whatsoever. In Somalia, the warlords rule. If you fuck with them, you get dealt with. They protect their interests, monopolize assets and food shipments. They don't care about anything else. There's no small claims court because you were shafted on a brake job at Skinnylube.
If you, Johnny McWhiteguy, go to Somalia and somebody smokes you in the street, nobody gives a fuck. There won't be "retribution" for this random killing, because you know what that would be? Law. Somalia is lawless and a failed state.
If you wanted to go to Somalia, you'd have to hire a reputable security firm or you're not coming out alive and nobody will care.
If you want to go to Pyro, Bobby McSpacedad, if you don't have friends, hire some competent security or you're not coming out alive and nobody will care.

>>1546326
This is a decent non-whine take. Pyro probably needs tweaking.
I don't think there need to be any caps on limiting PvP. I agree that consequences are too easy to avoid.

>>1546469
The problem with that, even though you’re right, is that it requires a reputation system that works.
I have my doubts that CIG will ever accomplish that in a way that actually impacts things.

>>1546483
thats what Im saying. most of the game should be open to pvp, attacking people should be a choice you can make in like 95% of game space, with only places like Terra Prime, Lorville, Sherman, Orison, Babbage being properly safe with remotely enforced weapons lockouts. I'd say even on the back streets of Lorville and A18 the green zones should have gaps, like back streets where the lockout system is jammed or blind or just isnt installed.

but the choice needs to have meaning and the game needs to push back against aggression because thats how humanity works thats the natural balance that the more violent and disruptive you get the more people and organizations seeks to end you. Just like there are risks and rewards for mining of pve ratting there needs to be risks and rewards for piracy, and right now there are basically no risks and game is heavily unbalanced towards the aggressor. It makes complete sense to just shoot everyone you see first before they shoot you because there is nothing at all discouraging them from doing so, particularly in pyro but more or less everywhere. At worst in stanton you get a slightly longer respawn walk, in reality you just bounce to hex or go scrub crimestat.

So as a result we get this retarded battle royale looter shooter game instead of a "Space Trading and combat simulator"

I don't think we all put down $700,000,000 to get rust in space.

>>1546521
all that really needs to happen is to have ai actors that can track targets via comm networks and like npc "tips" meaning some R&R faction npc on a station just saw the guy with the bounty on him and now the entire R&R gang netowrk has a ping for him and a rep system that can flag certain players or other npc groups as "enemy track down and kill" The advocacy sort of does this already in UEE space, but the system needs a dual level of rep like crimestat being "this person just committed a homicide and is wanted level 4" but also "this person has negative tier 2 UEE rep and is considered hostile and fair game at all times in UEE space" with the above mentioned hunter npc then moving to intercept.

Like if someone has committed 50 unprovoked homicides against other players they should not be able to move through civilized space casually, the cops should treat them as hostile until they have removed that negative rep by some means and actively attack them
negative rep 1 should get you stopped and scanned basically every time you trip a sensor, like you get profiled for being a space nigger.

similarly gangs that you have negative rep with should hassle and/or attack you on sight.

>essay after essay about head canon fixes for personal problems

>pvptards will expect you to spend 45 mins before playing organising muh escorts and spend the whole session noided looking over your shoulder to even have a chance at making money
>sams people shit and piss when faced with reading mote than 5 words and start chimping out about social credit and how they should be allowed to act like niggers with impunity
American moment, so desensitised to wanton violence that the solution isn't to punish the violent actors but to tell all the non-voilent actors to carry a gun and be ready to shoot them.

>>1545973
>Go back to
go make a thread for your other game and fuck off out of ours then

>>1546326
thats fair because you are playing it now
but there is so much that affects this dynamic that isn't implemented, I wouldn't bother expecting better until many years from now

>carebears so mad they spend all day typing out their solutions to problems only they have, on 4chan
Wew

Pyro has destroyed any argument that this game isn't pay to win. This shit sucks.

>>1546591
the problem is the grind is terrible

>>1546600
The grind is all there is to the game, if I had a badass ship I wouldn't have any reason to play.

Modular Starfarer gantry when?
I wanna see it become the Gozanti class of star citizen

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Gozanti-class_cruiser

lemme dock snubs/small ships the gantry, carry tanks with tractor beams, tow ships, replace the fuel drums with cargo boxes

its one of the handful of ships that just cries out to be a modular hull, with the enclosed hull being constant and the gantry section being swappable.

>>1546629
This is a retarded materialistic slave mentality that ruins games. The point of playing the game is not getting the "badass ship", it using it.

>if I had a badass ship I wouldn't have any reason to play.
What's the point of getting a badass ship if you're just going to stop playing? That's a shit game.

>>1546632
people without imagination who need to be spoonfed gameplay are the death of gaming. Their inability to read between the lines and invent their own fun is why games suck more and more as they devote dev and design time to prepackaging "adventures!(tm)" for these retards instead of just giving them a lego set of gameplay mechanics and seeing what they build.

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>>1546636
This a great reply to my post and explains the problem better than i did.

>>1546631
What you're describing is pretty much what the Galaxy will do.

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Chris, the terrain looking like Starfield.

>>1546654
yeah I know but I think the starfarer thematically fits the role better as a ubiquitous easily refit/repurposed starship. It even already as a militarized version with better weapons.

Like we have:
Star-Fueler
Star-Fueler Military
I wanna see
Star-Tug
Star-Lander
Star-Fury Carrier
Stargo hauler

Game needs modularity and variants more than it needs endless new redundant hulls. EVERY ship should have like 3-10 versions so when you see a hull at a distance you dont know exactly what it is and have to interrogate it with sensors.

Starfarer hull spotted, but is is a Civilian fuel hauler or a Star-G-Carrier thats about to launch a half dozen furies at you.

If we have the Hercules that can be a lightly armed $400 civilian vehicle lander or a $750 absurdly upgunned assault bomber why cant we have a $500 Starfarer Fury Carrier?

>>1546660
except it actually a sphere you can circumnavigate and you can just take off and fly directly over to that gas giant and down into its atmo and land in its cloud city.

there is no comparison possible between starfield, aka fallout in space and starcitizen.

>>1546660
the terrain in pyro is way better than stanton. look like different games.

>>1546432
pembroke have always been insanely op, having both highest temp rate and damage reduction, while also having the biggest backpack available and only require 1 piece of armor for full body
looks like they finally understood it

you can still buy it on subcribed store I think in silver color but I'm not sure

Star Citizen is a game made by people who hate space.

Star Citizen is a game made by people who love space.

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>>1545824
>>1545997
>>1546367
Here's me landing on an asteroid. You still can't do this in Scam Shitizen.

The many opinions of the people who made Star Citizen about space are too broad and varied to be concisely captured in a post.

>>1546757
Yes I just played for around 20 30 mins. I liked how it felt, though the performance is ass. Feels like the game will also be hamstrung by the online aspects, should just be a SP game. Could be complete in a couple years if it was SP, their insistence on doing SC's one world bullshit will lead to development limbo.

>>1546591
>destroyed any argument that this game isn't pay to win
I have to disagree. Despite the moaning about Master modes, the skill ceiling is still extremely high. What ships do you feel are pay to win? A Gladius can spank anything out there once you *really* learn the fight.

>>1546755
lol, lmao

>>1546779
>bro if you just spend 1000 hours in AC you'll be good enough to spank anything in a gladius
uhuh
or you can just buy a constellation and smoke 90% of people you come across

>>1546826
If you're in a Fatlancer, sure. A Connie is hardly unobtainium or even threatening, really

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ok, Im finally ready to consider that I might have a problem.

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>>1546826
It doesn't take a thousand hours. Get a little consistent practice in against players and you'll understand. A few sporadic PU encounters and NPC fights won't develop the right skills.

>>1546836
Looks like about $2k, Not a bad amount of money if it's over half a decade. My Kriss Vector cost $3k to completely build out and I sure as fuck haven't gotten that much value from it over the past 2 years so I think you're doing just fine anon.

>>1546831
Connie Phoenix is pretty much best solo ship in game, the time it takes for small fighters to kill it, the PDT will have damaged you enough for you to be swimming, not to mention you need to get a jump on it or risk buggy missiles hitting. You can't really tank a single hit depending on Connie loadout and if you are on heavy fighter you won't dodge then so it's just 1v1 gunfight.. and that's only if phoenix is flying solo. It's quite honestly infuriating as Connies are extremely ugly ships and old. Nerfed Corsair to the fucking ground and buffed the flying tube.

>>1546846
its just over 3k, over 12 years, but the total hull value there is north of $5500, because I am obsessive CCU goblin, the only ship I paid full price for is the cutlass blue.

my crowning goblin achievements are my $300 polaris, $240 perseus and $300 Odyssey. None of which was ever sold for less than $625

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>>1546861
>$300 Polaris
ayy same

I still want the Orion to land vertically like a 900 foot skyscraper on its main engine mounts. With extendo-feet like the reclaimer has. Even if it can't do it in 1g it would just be fucking awesome to park it that way on a moon.

yes in understand it will not happen and orion is a space bound mining barge.

Apart from contested zones is pyro even worth it? I heard miners can get good shit if they risk it but what about other type of activities/missions?

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>>1546847
I suppose if your argument revolves around the dominating superiority of a single S1 PDC, then yes, a Gladius may not do it for you against a Connie.

>>1546836
Crazy that most of your ships are multicrew and you'll probably never use them.

>>1546879
If you're a money is my score kinda dude, just stay in Stanton. Pyro is cool but Somalia as outlined above and I'm not sure there's much draw for industrial players that Stanton cannot more safely provide.

>>1546779
The Gladius is 90 fucking bucks, and it doesn't even have a starter package option. Cheap for Star Citizen, but not compared to a 30 dollar Mustang. I think Star Citizen has always technically been pay to win, but PVP was so optional before I honestly didn't think it was a problem, but Pyro as of now is completely kill on site, and anyone in an Aurora or Mustang just gets fucking murdered. Every single time I'm just minding my own business trying to do some bounty, some shithead in a Zeus, Guardian or Hurricane, or Hornet or whatever will come out of nowhere and blast my shit before I even see them. As if my little Intrepid is even a threat to them. I'm fine with legit piracy, but a whole as system of ganking is a bit annoying. Sure it's still technically optional, but fuck me this is literally the only other system, and it's new. It would be nice to actually be able to do the missions and explore without constantly being in a state of paranoia.

Semi related, but what makes a ship count as red or hostile in pyro? There's no crime stat so why are some people red? Better why don't they just mark every ship as red, because that would help a lot.

>>1546893
take the arrow

>>1546893
>Gladius is 90 fucking bucks
Or like 2 mil in game? Hauling contracts are paying out like 50k for an 8 SCU from station to city. Don't pay real money for these ships anon, and don't think of their value in that way.
If you're really that broke I'll send you spacebucks or something. The Aurora is legit a flying coffin but Mustang is more capable than you realize.

>>1546879
Contract pay is pretty nice. Although i don't know if they changed stantons. Most mercenary contracts pay like 30k on the low end and 50k average it seems. Much better than the 10k bunkers for not much more work, just the very high risk some shithead will kill you just for existing in a 60 km radius of him.

>>1546893
>Semi related, but what makes a ship count as red or hostile in pyro?
And forgot to address this, but that's the aggression timer. In Pyro, this means the station will shoot at you. So really, there is some sort of law that people are calling for.
I think you should all but have to join one of the three factions, swear allegiance, what ever. You could not, but then every station and whatnot should shoot at you. Then, you'd have a source of allies kinda like how New World did it without knowing anyone.

>>1546898
Yeah but what matters is never the pay itself. Its other shit like drugs/minerals in cargo holds/fps missions, RMC, scavenged ship components and such.

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>>1546861
I started playing SC this year during IAE so over the past few weeks I've been grabbing some cheap gray market CCU'd ships of people looking to cash out at a small loss or break even and it's pretty wild how cheap ships can get with proper CCU chains. Seeing people obtain ships for 50-70% off listed price is kinda nutty plus whatever savings you can get from someone liquidating those ship CCU's because they're quitting and selling at a small loss.

>>1546906
If there was ever a definition of a Bob fleet, this is it. My God.

>>1546887
big fat tarded assumption of you frend.
I have a several hundred man multigaming org that ive played sci-fi shooter and other stuff with for 10 years. I am an officer in said org, I used to lead the SC wing of the org but have since passed leadership to someone more enthusiastic and social and instead take a second seat organizational and planning role. The Four Org multistructure we use to divide up players and task them with people they get along with and share interests with was designed by me like 8 years ago. We have a main social org, a security/merc/hired killer service, a Hauling/Mining/Building division and a definitely not a pirate fleet grey legality branch.
Weve got people who wanna be crewmen, people who wanna be scouts, people who wanna be pilots, people who wanna be miners, people who like to kill people and people who wanna be ground pounders.

I specifically have my solo ships: Blue, Guardian, Nox, Starlancer(safe cargo) Corsair maybe, Crucible maybe depending how repair works, id love to be Jimjames's itinerant deep space repair shack.

The other ships are for me and the boys to do me and the boys shit with and have always been planned for that. I have never been a solocap tard and have been telling them that they are tards and deluding themselves for a decade now.

People always assume that the guy with 20 ships doesnt have a plan, and I'll admit its often true, but I have a plan for literally every ship I buy. I buy ships I think are cool, but only if I can slot them into reasonably likely org activities.

>>1546912
>I have a several hundred man multigaming org that ive played sci-fi shooter
No you don't. It's nice you want to pretend but we both know it isn't happening.
>the rest
I aint reading all that.

>>1546916
This dude has posted his story a few times. He might be overly optimistic about the direction of the game but I don't think he's fake.

>>1546908
Other than the Reclaimer, F8C, and Terrapin Medic, everything has a higher melt value than what I paid for them and are really just there as CCU options. Except the Retaliator Bomber, that one is just because I think it looks cool as hell and was $170 so I did definitely get JPG'd there.

>>1546906
>prowler
>valk
why

>>1546919
>>1546916
Im an oldffag member of one of the longest running planetside2 outfits. Last I checked we had about 800 members of which ~400 had been active in the past month and and of those maybe 250 have expressed interest in SC directly and If we get a few dozen people running regular org ops nights more will come that always do to whatever game were playing.

Youre probably right that Im overly optimistic about SC, but desu, if they hit the targets they laid out for 1.0 it'll be enough for us. As soon as planets became walkable I knew we'd be scaling down the size, but desu even 5 systems is going to be a MASSIVE playspace and the combined arms stuff they laid out at citcon is the sort of thing we'll dominate at. we have literally hundreds of pre-trained platoon level infantry players cus thats how planetside works. We'll just have to do our own logistics and such. Which desu Im quite good at and enjoy cus tism spectrum.

Star Citizen is just Planetside 3, Bigger Longer and Spaceships

>>1546881
spoken like a player who hasn't fought one.

To be fair though, PDT is very reliant on server fps which is always shit.

>>1546929
Prowler can be CCU'd into an ironclad and unlike other dropships can actually be solo'd since the pilot gets 2x S5 2x S3, Valkyrie can be CCU'd into a Galaxy and if I decide I don't want either of them I can melt them for more than I bought them for so it seemed like a pretty good investment.

>>1546893
>what makes a ship count as red or hostile in pyro
if someone target you = he become red
same apply for turrets and also apply in stanton

>>1546933
You're a liar. And not one planetside 2 guy is going to sit in your turret for hours on end while you warp from place to place. Keep on being stupid though because every post you make is easy to spot. You may as well be a tripfag and as we all know tripfags are autistic schizo's just like you.

>>1546933
fuck 1.0 chris needs to fix these fucking UI and inventory bugs. he fixes that, SC could actually be playable. cant tell you how many times the inventory glitches out and i can grab stuff or it wont transfer FUCK it makes me so mad. i hate it. still happens on 4.0, thought server meshing would fix this FUCK.

I dont think it matters if people have friends to play with or not. Who cares. I have them, maybe PS2 fag has them.

The real problem is that multi crew gameplay (in space ship) is shit. It's as underdeveloped if not more than other crew games and they all have the same problem. Either you give the crew menial but crucial tasks they do on repeat or they alt-tab to watch videos, for example during QT or travel in general.

>>1546937
>anyone who dares to pvp in the pvp solar system should be clearly marked so I can shoot them first!
There is no pleasing you people, it just simply can't be done, no matter what happens you will find a way to bitch and moan about pvp.

>>1546935
I'm one of the "murderhobos" you all hate and I fight everything and everything. I fought two crewed Polaris-s the other day in an Arrow. I didn't kill them, but neither did they and I didn't take a single hit.
>Internet badass bragging
I know. I'm saying big ships are simply not threatening, not that I'm some of mega pvp dominator. But literally I shoot everything and I understand the capabilities of these ships very well. I don't give a fuck about running or dying because all that's at stake is ego.

If I took a fight with a Connie in my Gladius and lost, I'd give them a gf in chat. Because who gives a shit? It's a game.

>>1546939
thats crazy cus virtually everyone I know in planetside has star citizen.
one of our orgs PS2 dropship pilots has literally every dropship sold in SC except for the cutlass deathtrap.
fella is a Seahawk and now Osprey pilot IRL. Man likes delivering troopers.

>>1546950
>makes up more fanfiction
Uh huh.

>>1546937
Targeting someone doesn't turn you red, anon. Unless you're retarded (you might be) and fly around in missile mode locking people.

>>1546946
>should
never said that, i said just explained how the game work currently

>>1546952
if I target from far away in nav mode my target don't detect me because I have stealth components
if I target from mid distance I am in missile mode yes because it is the range where you can take your time locking the target
if I'm in close range it mean I'm already attacking

I've said it before but SC needs a F2P slave class. They can play the game, earn money from contracts and all that, but they just can't buy ships.

>>1546957
so yes I'm always red when targeting someone or doesn't appear in his radar

>>1546951
just because you are an a-social sperg who is too reflexively hostile to make friends does not mean we all are.

I too am a sperg, but I try to contain myself and curb my autism and shockling just little bit of self control means I can hang out with dozens of other nerds and to social nerd things.
These guys I play with are a bunch of leftist faggots, and I have to keep a lid on my /pol/posting and be careful not to say the nigger word. But because I have that little of self control, not lashing out at the first thing that annoys me like a rabid animal, I can easily make casual gaming friends, and thats all most of them are, Ive connected more solidly with a few of them, but most of these people I would not hang out with IRL cus of their political obsession and activism, but I can crew a spaceship with them, or squad up in PS2 or play rust or w/e else and know theyre not going to backstab, because are all all part of the same crew and have been for years.

Its tragic that you will never know what thats like , because you deny the possibility, insisting that everyone who has friends doesnt and is lying.

>>1546966
I aint reading all that schizo.

>>1546971
you are the schizo.
I am just an oldfag who knows better than to be you.

>>1546966
BCP?

>>1546977
NTA but you write paragraphs of absolute schizo babble in every response.

>>1543399>Current Event
>Luminalia (Star Citizen's Christmas event) is up and will be offering 11 free, permanent rewards to claim through this link (scroll down abit) from December 12th to 22nd: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/20280-Luminalia-2954
Interrupting you spergs to remind everyone that today is the last day to claim your free luminalia shit.

>>1546966
>head canon about the game
>head canon about pvp
>head canon about friends
>head canon about other posters in this thread
I truly think you are one of the worst consistent posters in this thread.

>>1546981
>guy claims to be old and have friends
>schizo!
Every accusation is a confession.

>>1546719
shit was also THE mining armor for aberdeen, which is why it's annoying. nerf the DR and backpack, i don't care, just let me hand mine without heavy breathing.

>>1546979
no, fuck that cocksucker.
Ive played on the same server as him for like a decade and I am VERY CROSS that he and his dickholders have migrated to SC, but the fact that he has proves my point about the crossover and migration. even spastics like him are making the obvious jump to the next generation of large scale combined arms sci-fi shooty game.

>>1546981
desu its ususally cus Im posting here late at night when Im tired and rambly.
because I am kind of a washed up old man unironically and talk about how good things were back in my day a lot.
I was literally a top 100 SC fighter pilot in alpha 2.4/5/6 ish. Not so much anymore cus Im older and my eyesight has faded a bit and my reflexes are slower than they were. 8 years ago of w/e that was.

I write essays about how things should be done because I have been playing games like this for 25 years now and have seen what works and what does not and what happens when fundamental problems are left to fester.

>>1546997
No one here gives a shit about your essays, no one anywhere does.
Your time is better spent pissing in the wind so it blows back on to you than writing your essays.