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A thread to discuss Warhammer: Age Of Reckoning and also our two week foray in it.

>What's Warhammer: Age Of Reckoning?
PVP-centric MMORPG developed by Mythic Entertainment and published by EA in 2008.

>Server
https://www.returnofreckoning.com/

>Guild/Faction
Our guild is <Banhammer> on Destruction. Ask in here for an invite, or message any guild member.

>Class Poll
https://strawpoll.com/ajnE16860nW

>Class Info
https://wiki.returnofreckoning.com/Classes

>Wiki
https://wiki.returnofreckoning.com/Main_Page


>Why
This is part of the MMOdventure project where anons get together to play obscure/niché/old MMOs

check out the MMOdventure thread for further discussion:
>>1545143
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>Complete guide to gearing pre level 40.
https://www.returnofreckoning.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=49459
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>Warhammer Online New Player Guide 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nggrrS8yXd8
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has it been two weeks yet
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why is everyone on destruction british in the warhammer universe?
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>>1556061
All old timey fantasy speak is British coded.
The empire is German.
The orcs are based on football hooligans in the UK so they sound like norf FC.
Elves should have probably sounded like some upper class brits, the wood elves sound Irish for this reason.

The actual canonical brits in the setting is Bretonnia
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>>1556061
Warhammer is British
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>A Tour of the Inevitable City
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXwjK_2p4q8
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>>1556117
the power eminates from his loins
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this guy is talking bullshit, r-right?
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>>1556126
About what? Simply questing(I mean non-PQs) and PVE in general sucks, the game wasn't really made for that, especially how redesigned RoR is.
You can still get gear from Public Quests, I think you can get T2 tier set(Keeper) in main city dungeon and then T3 set(Mayhem) in PQs. But you'd need a group to do those
pic is related but I think slightly outdated from jan 2023
Leveling is really fast with SCs and Open RvR imo. Supposedly bolstering can help you a lot, but you need to make sure your gear is the best possible for you level and socketed with talismans because bolstering just multiplies your stats. Which is weird because how fast you'd be leveling up and "unlocking" higher level best possible pieces.
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>>1556130
the
>paradoxically, you'll get weaker as you level up
part is what I'm confused about.
sounds like a lvl 10 player with lvl 10 gear will be stronger than a lvl 16 player with lvl 13 gear due to the bolstering.

I've just been chunking away at the PvE quests during downtime and I wonder if I'm fucking myself over.
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>>1556137
>unless you are equipping a new gear set
I think because as you level up the bolstering buff gives you less and less increase, so you have to make up for it with gear stats. It makes sense to me, you can't just sit on your ass with low level gear, you have to get out and get new things.

>I've just been chunking away at the PvE quests during downtime and I wonder if I'm fucking myself over.
Kind of? Because you won't have Renown Rank for PvP gear. I don't know how well PvE gear holds up in PvP environment. I read that Keeper and Mayhem are ok. I suppose group play helps a lot too.
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>>1556209
I KNOW we dont have any Anti-Skub niggers in this group, right?
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I have an ale carrier now.
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>focus the tanks
>ignore the healers
>don't protect their own healers
>go for kills and ignore the objectives
Destruction seems to attract the lowest iq players
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>>1556259
>trying to convince Destruction into playing the objective
>smoke signals and charades
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Guild Vault location in Inevitable City. Has 60 slots.
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>>1556281
Guild Hall unlocks at Guild level 6.
>Guilds level up as their members earn EXP within the game, and as a Guild levels, it gains bonus perks for all members to take advantage of.
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>>1556126
Nope, it's all correct. Don't do any quests and go straight out and ORVR... If you are level 1 just run supplies back to the flag and generate yourself a ton of points for your zone-based unlocks. The ones for the contested ORVR zones are very good.

Scenarios are the best way of getting almost everything you want. They don't offer what you would run supplies for, which are the zone unlocks. But they are generally the most fun content the game is based around because it's on a more reasonable scale.

>>1556130
afaik the dungeon set (keeper) you can get after you leave the first tier will carry you through into the 30's. the only problem I saw when I played was nobody did dungeons outside of guilds.
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where is the auction house in IC?
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>>1556391
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>It saves you crests and fill more slots (head/shoulder/chest/boots/gloves). It’s for 15+ and requires a group to be put together. I actually highly suggest doing this. The run itself takes 30-45min. The hard part is putting the group together.
from the gearing link in OP, to add on to >>1556372

so let's do that dungeon when we got six 16+ niggas including a tank + healer
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>blocks you're path as you try to escape the enemy
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>>1556577
>Hides in a bush while you die
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>>1556627
are you taking normal screenshots or the fancy screenshots? they have separate hotkeys
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pve: fun,slow exp, pq drops war tokens, weaker gear, no pvp knowledge gained, need to run dungeons for better set gear
orvr: drops the most war crests for best set gear, pvp is getting 1 shot while running supplies
scenarios: best exp, slower war crest gains, better pvp knowledge gains
>>1556417
I can try to tank later today
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Remember to talk to the HERALD (lich looking dude with a red circle thing above him) who hands out some type of current event rewards. I got a shitload of War Crests and still have a 3rd tier reward to gain for the... not the Week 52 thing but the other option that wasn't a Week 51/52.
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>Equipments (RvR & PvE)
https://wiki.returnofreckoning.com/index.php?title=Equipments_(RvR_%26_PvE)&_PvE)=
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>>1556130
>>1556372
>>1556126
>Don't do quests

THANK FUCK.
Been playing since last night and questing fucking sucks. I hate moving a quarter of a mile, starting 12 fucking quests and wandering around trying to figure them out and gaining 1 level after an hour.
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>>1556749
>papa nier
good taste
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>>1556744
Yeah they're basically there for tome of knowledge stuff (cosmetics, titles etc.) or people who for some reason decided to play an MMO all about PvP and group stuff despite not wanting to do those things.
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>>1556766
The menu is such a cluster fuck and the game presents itself like another PVE game. a little confusing, I honestly would have kept trying to quest if I hadn't seen this post.

Maybe the starting area should be changed a bit.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrknPD71-OU

All right
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Our time has come, PVEchads
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>>1556773
I think questing up until being funneled into your first RvR spot is fine. You gather your abilities, learn your class, get some decent gear, teaches you PQs which do get farmed at some certain thresholds later on (like ch. 22). But once being guided to that first warcamp, you should stick there. I leveled a Warrior-Priest 1-40 purely questing so I might have a large degree of tolerance for this shit
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>>1556786
are yall about to queue? still need a tank?
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>>1556789
Yeah I'm not about this 60 hours of foreplay to learn your class type shit. Letting me queue pvp immediately is pretty sick.
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>>1556798
>Letting me queue pvp immediately is pretty sick.
I agree with ya there.
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Might hook up with you boys and give this a try.
Question: Is there a Death Knight type of class?
Something tankier with solid damage and magic too? Blackguard sounds cool and I love the Druchii/Drukhari in the Warhammer universe.
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>>1556832
I don't know how much damage it does but isn't Chosen kinda that?
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>>1556832
Blackguard here
all our skills are melee focued so no proper "casting"
we are self buffs and debuff focused
you can go full tank SnB or 2H crit offtank which seems to be the most popular
eventually your self buffs can be shared to one teammate
https://www.returnofreckoning.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=36323
Have to read the comments for updated info
there might be a newer guide out there
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>>1556832
Chosen has more magic knight feel to it. Blackguard is
>I am going to hit you with such hate that you lose your will to live and get int/will debuff
In terms of dmg I don't know if one is better than the other
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>>1556832
anti-magic themed melee class. the buffs IB/BG apply to themselves are also applied to the guard target.
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What do I dump my renown points into? Isn't it decreased chance to be crit, and something else?
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https://wiki.returnofreckoning.com/Last_Name_Vendor
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>>1556993
I think respeccing is free on this server. The reduced crit stuff seems good yeah, I've been eyeing that myself.
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>>1557012
t1 is superior
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real dungeoning going on
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>>1557132
Jesus how do you play like that?
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Oh shit it's WAR's turn? How many of you are playing?
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>>1557162
8 online atm
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Did anyone make a /v/ thread yet? We do that for every game and we seem to get a small influx of people from it.
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>>1557197
we had two
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>>1557197
We've had two.
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>>1557198
kek
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>>1557153
very poorly
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>>1557132
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can the two weeks be over this game is fucking trash
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>>1557398
stop bitching
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>>1557400
nah
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>>1557398
skill issue
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we won
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ah just tell me once you get to playing dungeons and dragons online
thanks
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>>1557132
So we completed this last night. The dungeon was linear with three separate wings. The quests nearby give you the Keeper PvE set and you need to be 15 to accept them.
Any stragglers need a run sometime today/future just holler, I'm sure a few of us will be up to helping out.
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>>1557733
I can't join for another couple days. Hoping I'll be able to catch up and get in share range. Is getting pvp gear feasible at low levels or are dungeons it?
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>>1557928
You only got one set option before Keeper's and it's next to nothing to obtain. Then you can
>grind PQs for War Tokens to get Mayhem at 22
>wait until 26 to start buying the next PvP set (depending on your class and spec)
You can grab random upgrades like jewelry here and there per level as well. Just follow https://www.returnofreckoning.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=49459
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i don't want to play if everyone is quitting in two weeks
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>Bolstering
Always update your gear whenever you can so you get maximum benefits from bolstering. Even small stat increases get boosted up a lot.
"Bolstering works in conjunction with your gear, it's not just a raw stat increase. It looks at your gear and helps boost you based on the gear you're wearing. So, the better the gear the better the increase."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_hs8qIZnnE
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>>1558296
I hope some of the other guys have an interest in the occasional scenario once this is all over. It can replace some minigames imo.
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>>1558306
*cracks knuckles* heh, it's finally time to top-DPS...
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Ah, much better. The UI was killing me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6nFMLId9cE
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Is anyone using the profession Magical Salvage? I'd like to start crafting talismans, but swapping between professions seems inefficient.
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very important oRVR tip
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https://wiki.returnofreckoning.com/Open_RvR_Guide
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Destro worse than WoW players, absolutely refusing to interact with the objective in any way
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>>1559401
I voted for Order.
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https://www.returnofreckoning.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=53475

Helpful AddOn Guide
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>>1558296
Never bothered with this scene despite checking in every once in a while for that reason. The feverish grind to gear and experience everything in 2 weeks is vomit inducing.
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>>1559489
I followed this and then spent like an hour setting it up because it displays 3-4 things in multiple places at the same time for no reason and also made the UI behave differently with some checkbox or weird settings hidden deep in one of the bazillion addons.
I might just try to redo it and prune a bunch of them because it still feels like a clusterfuck
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>change hotkeys on one character
>it doesn't carry over to the others
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>>1559600
If you make a profile any changes you make will carry over to any character using that profile.
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>>1559352
I'm salvaging a lot, only kept purple and some green and blue materials though. What kind of stuff do you need for talisman crafting?
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>>1559695
Magical essences are only found through salvaging, other stuff can just be bought.

Talismans are quite pricey on the AH
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you guys still going are you too big of pussies to play a PvP game for this long?
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>>1559493
I think only a small amount of players try to experience everything in the time we have, the rest just play casually. It just feels worse with themepark mmos because you're given a list of chores before the game allows you to start having fun.
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>>1559713
tab back in Sharademon, oil timer is up soon
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Is it too late to join? If not, are you niggas in need of any specific class?
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>>1559793
you're still good to join, level and rank gain is pretty quick.
we're kinda low on ranged DPS. most of the higher level people are melee.
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>>1559805
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>>1559856
I found me on the pic!
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>>1559856
squig looks shooped in lol
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so has it been fun? I've been too busy with the holidays to start
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>>1559930
had two niggas in gchat not ten minutes ago agreeing about having fun
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>>1559930
kinda, sorta
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I have seen more players casually type like orcs than I have seen any other collective role-playing in an MMO throughout the past twenty years.
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>>1559856
>>1559857
I'm somewhere in that blob
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>>1560003
everyone loves warhammer orcs and wishes if they could just let go and be one for a day
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you can come play again, we're owning in scenarios now
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Make sure to slot talismans, green/blue talismans are quite cheap for the stats they provide. Also, always be using a 60-minute main stat + armor potion (they stack) when pvping.

The AH is quite a bitch to use, so use the wiki to navigate for names of potions at specific
levels.
>https://wiki.returnofreckoning.com/Apothecary

If you use the Shinies add-on you can buy/sell from the AH anywhere and save searches.
>https://tools.idrinth.de/addons/shinies/
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>>1560317
>(they stack)
the armor potions of different tier do stack?
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>>1560318
Sorry I meant that the main stat+armor potions stack with each other. You can have 1 main stat+armor+renown potion active at the same time.
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this is great, I'm unironically going to read most of this
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this one is also kind of a no-brainer option
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Extremely detailed builds/general info etc.
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wLqnASw_5UmDUcaB7lcVBDuvRcyZ39f4sPymXd9r1kg/edit?tab=t.0

Most of this is for 40+ so dunno how useful it will be. If you need an idea for what stat talismans to go for etc. might still be some use, I guess.
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>>1560686
>This is a guide aimed at warband play! Using the same builds in other content might lead to varying degrees of success. You have been warned.
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Are we still alive? Hoping to jump on this with a friend later tonight
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>>1560860
>tonight
NA night has been our most active timeframe so far, see you soon
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ayo LOG ON IF YOU WANT TO ARR VEE ARR
WE GOT 4 NIGGAS IN A BLOB
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>>1560906
in non ork pls?
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>>1560917
It's orc with a c in the old world
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>>1560918
in non ork with a c then
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Five (5) members from the <Banhammer> 4chan.org/vm/ guild are currently, at the time of this post, in the same group and within the same oRvR (or open Realm vs. Realm) zone. When a large group of players run around together, it is commonly referred to as a "blob".
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https://www.returnofreckoning.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=40739
useful stuff, with addon customization things too
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The fun of RvR isn't RvR; it's complaining about the downtime of oRvR with your fellow guild grots.
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>>1559930
I really enjoy the general setting and the idea behind the classes and factions. But it's old as fuck and a relic from another time.

I unironically believe if this had a modern reboot, and played more like modern wow this would be really good. Right now it's pretty stiff. I honestly have no idea what I'm doing in PvP, I try to participate but it feels like we lose no matter what.
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>>1559810
I'm thinking of switching off from marauder. I was thinking of trying the Goblin squig herder or shaman. What do you recommend
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>>1560406
How the FUCK could you even think Orks aren't da best ever.
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>>1561201
shaman are pretty damn strong I've heard. I don't know much about squig herder; just started leveling one yesterday for some T1 action. they seem unique and _fun.
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>Racial +1 AP pocket item

Dark Elves: Blight Isle, 7,5k 19k > aged ornate chest, click on it, it will start the quest.

Chaos: Nordland, 47k, 39k > dead marauder corpse on the ground. Click once to accept the quest, twice to complete it. Hidden behind some bushes at a tree.

Greenskin: Ekrund, 52k, 35k > Bottles at the tower.
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https://wiki.returnofreckoning.com/Pocket_Items
>Pocket Items are unique items that can be placed into the Pocket Item Slots on a character.
>Each character can equip a maximum of Two Pocket Items at once.

>https://wiki.returnofreckoning.com/Scholarly_Pursuits_-_Each_Race level 1 req
>https://wiki.returnofreckoning.com/Explorer%E2%80%99s_Kit_Tomes_-_Each_Race level 12 req
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>>1561563
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqqsiTO5ZC4
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>battle for praag
>both sides meet in the center
>enemy runs through our frontline and starts mashing the backline
>no one hits the people diving
>backline melts
>frontline melts shortly after
>boxed up in spawn for the next 15 minutes unable to kill anyone
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>>1561574
but I thought I wasnt supposed to hit the tank
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cruisin thru da hood with my gat
https://streamable.com/gedeuq
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>>1561201
ye marauder feels pretty shitty tbqhfam
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>>1561566
those quests don't seem to worth the effort
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>>1561870
according to my calculations, having any stat in your pocket slot is infinitely better than having no stat in that slot.
some of them are real easy to get, too.
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>>1561916
just grabbing the AP/s seems the best choice
the rest are too much effort for so little, the weakest dot will tick at least 80 damage on you per sec
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>>1561076
Yeah that sounds about right. I played it back in like.. 2008 and it had a good setting and the classes were cool, but it was kind of buggy. I'd come out of gaming retirement if they ever rebooted it.
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>>1561754
im finding scenarios extremely fun as marauder since i've unlocked all my aoe morales/masteries etc.
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got a 3man scenario group goin if niggas want to join
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gonna start installing here in a minute
who can i whisper for a guild inv?
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>>1562447
eyelids
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>>1562486
fearsome
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>>1562623
what did you do?
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>>1562678
Were you the guy named Niglet yesterday lel
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>>1562678
>>1562681
I probably owned a GM in scenarios. No ban or anything, just the boot.
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>>1562623
I'm certain that's a common, maybe outdated, error. I've gotten it several times already from completely random unrelated crashes.
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>>1562623
>>1562701
I got this randomly too while doing nothing
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he didnt fly so good
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>35 accessory sets
https://www.returnofreckoning.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13566
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>>1562863
are these better than the genesis stuff?
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Let's hold a quick Banhammer guild photo at 9:15 pm UTC, Saturday.
>Time converter: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Warhammer+Guild+Pictures&iso=20250104T2115&p1=1440
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>>1562952
Genesis stuff is still better if you have the crests for it.
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>>1562863
The Winds Impervious (0/3):

>Crow Caller Chain: (43k, 6.5k)
Travel to Thunder Mountain and make your way to the coordinates given. Slay enough Magma Crawlers until you receive Arachnid Poison Sac (x5). Destruction: After you receive these items, head to The Inevitable City and enter the Lyceum. Speak to the Disciple's Assistant just by the Tome Accessory Librarian, Disciple Venomstung, and purchase the Vial of Concentrated Venom in exchange for your five Arachnid Poison Sac(s). After you receive this item, equip this item as it is a Pocket item. Equipping this item will grant you the tome unlock, “Sacking for Sacs”, allowing you to claim Crow Caller Chain.

>The Obdurate Seal: (49k, 45k)
Travel to Caledor and make your way to the coordinates given. Seek and slay a Champion scorpion by the name of Crushclaw. Crushclaw will drop an item called Giant Scorpion Stinger. After you receive the item, exit combat and equip this item as it is a Pocket item. Equipping this item will grant you the tome unlock, “Stick the Sticker”, allowing you to claim The Obdurate Seal.

>Wordbreaker Band: (38.5k, 35.5k)
Travel to Thunder Mountain and head far West to Cinderfall. Make your way to the coordinates given. Sight an interacrive object on the ground called "Komnor Bronzemug". Simply click on it and you will be granted the tome unlock, "No Reflection of Your Skill", allowing you to claim Wordbreaker Band.
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>>1563372
You'll have to sneak past the dwaft guards by the Order base to get to the Magma Crawlers.
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>>1563372
There's a secret passage you enter from Dragonwake to get to the Crushclaw in Caledor if you're Destruction.

>From Dragonwake war camp, walk in RvR area then join PvE area at 29k 45k.
>Reach 2k 59k to take the secret passage, avoiding Order Chapters, and you'll arrive in Caledor.
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>>1563372
Librarian in IC you talk to for the accessories
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Really wonder what I should play. They all feel good to play in one way or another.
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>>1563430
surprisingly cute looking blackguard
slightly regret making a male now, they also have silly animations and frame
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>>1563383
badass. how much do you think he paid the server admin for that name?
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now that I'm thinking of it, how is return of reckoning financed anyways?
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>>1563519
I'm guessing from the admins personal funds since there's no donation system in place, and they've always been pretty adamant about not having one.
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I rerolled Order and am assaulting a keep (staring at a door).
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Healers get so much in this game. I get massive loot bags for zones I never step foot in.
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What's the fastest way to level a new character
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>>1563729
Queue scenarios
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>saturday
>nobody online
maybe war would have been more successful during a nonholiday timeslot
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>>1563822
I logged in and got kicked out into a frozen shithole.
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>>1563853
https://wiki.returnofreckoning.com/City_Sieges
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>>1563724
i must be playing healer wrong
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>>1563519
Hosting a server for a couple hundred players isn't that expensive
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I was muted again, this time for saying schizo. this fucking game man
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>>1564241
why are all pservers ran by people like that
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does the matchmaker try to match you with other parties when you join as one?
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>>1564314
Nope.
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we shoulda made a /v/ thread tonight. i was going to bring it up earlier but i forgot.
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>>1564392
Spooky
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we're standing in front of a door that I havent seen before
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>>1564441
theres another door behind the door
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>>1564392
Cute
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the most soulful thing about this game is the spontaneous ork RP breaking out randomly in chat
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>>1564521
>greenie players, even without rp-ish names or never having rpd before will happily scream WAAAAAGH or call people gits because its just that fun to be one of da boyz
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>>1565334
did you take this pic now?
it was there like two or three hours ago when I was on
total shitfest, nothing to do as melee other than standing in front of your ranged so their melee doesn't run in
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>>1565356
that was probably 20 minutes ago at this point
i logged because it was too much and yes nothing to do as melee. i guarded a sorc for a little bit but order were crushing us.
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>>1563430
Aight boyz, were da guild at. Gonna play Brigritt.
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>>1565359
>play black orc because i wanna be a huge nigger at the front lines smackin gits around
>babysit fucking healers during sieges and watch dps die to oil
>only fun i get to have is when i kick a guy off a cliff or something
>or lose scenarios because the spikey gits and knife ears are dumber than squigs
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>>1565387
Same
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>>1565748
>orc reporcduction
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>>1565751
heh
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>>1565825
contacted by the Ministry of Silly Walks
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>>1565825
crip walk
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poppin xanny bars got a nigga yellin WAAAGH
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it was good (?) while it lasted...
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>>1565964
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMeP6aoh1Fg
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>log in for the first time in ages
>join random scenario
>order has 4 healers to our 1
>dps just swings on a swordmaster as i am alone in beating the fuck out of a runemaster
nothing has changed i see
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what kind of belt am I supposed to get? it's my only item that's not part of a set aside of my weapon.
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powerspike time, it's not getting any better
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Saphery is a pretty nice place.
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these guys are literally telling me about every dump they take
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>>1559843
this is why elves are based
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We're over a week in, let's poll the participants:
Was WarhammerAnon correct in their assessment of this game being the best PvP MMO around, or was it only good/interesting for its time?
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>>1566049
well, it's better than RF
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Post sexy druchii ladies.
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>>1566049
nah, I think GW2 is better today, even if it's instanced PvP is dying, botted and it's automated tournaments are wintraded, and the open world style WvW is pretty shit very much like in RoR RVR, it's simply better because of the combat system
the tank's guard and other mechanism implemented into PvP with bodyblocking is pretty great in WAR though
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What a silly little helmet. I love it.
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we should do this t4 epic quest chain together later today. the reward is a nice rank 36 weapon or a shield.
https://wiki.returnofreckoning.com/Chaos_T4_Epic_Quest_Annihilation
I'm at step 7 and noticed that I'll probably not be able to complete it on my own.
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>>1566131
we could also grind the Khorne dungeon in IC soon I think, gives set for lvl 36
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>>1566136
nvm I'm stupid, I meant the T4 PQ set
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>>1566139
sure, I'm up for that in like 10 hours.
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>Forgot to check the MMOdventure thread during the last weeks of the year
>WAR was finally picked and one week already gone
Off to a great start... Any class in short supply? Besides staring at the skill calculator, I am going in blind
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>>1566129
>painted himself red so's he can "go" faster
>>1566187
If you want to make the most meaningful contribution within a group then play a healer. Otherwise play whatever you find fun.
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>>1566049
scenarios are alright i guess but rvr is super boring unless it's small groups fighting
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>>1566207
>painted himself red so's he can "go" faster

Checked for dyes to be even more red but that shit is expensive, I'd rather spend it on the racial mount.
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>>1566229
All the bright reds are pricy yep, just like the bright whites lolz
Oh yeah you still need the 16 mount don't ya? How much was that again?
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>>1566232
Something like 10 gold, they send you 2 gold at 16 to help, I should be able to afford it easily selling unusable gear and questing a bit, I'm already around 5 Gold at Lv14.
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>>1566049
>best PvP MMO
That would be Lineage 2 for me. Structured PVP gets boring really fast. The massive true open world combined with the simple PVP system makes L2 the wild west of mmorpgs in a fun way.
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>>1566245
oh shit dude I can give you the 10g if you still need it when you hit 16. that's nothing at all. I can't speak for others but considering the handouts we're given, getting you a 16 mount should be no problem.
don't worry about saving or skimping out on gear or drops or whatever. you'll get your mount.
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>>1566049
Probably the best large scale PvP MMO I've played. Collision makes positioning and battle lines important which is cool. Tanks having a role in PvP is great. The thing is that most fight in rvr are just two blobs of players going back and forth at their camps. The only map this shit seems to not happen on is Praag.
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>>1566049
the pvp is just wow battlegrounds or large blobs fucking around as others have said but its kinda funny to note how the class design was entirely ahead of the curve and i think thats what makes the game interesting
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where the neets at
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>>1566674
i have other hobbies too...
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>>1566686
I can FEEL the taxes going up...
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>play tank
>dps dont focus heals
>healers run away from me so i cant peel for them

>play dps
>end up being the only guy trying to kill heals
>tanks and healers are mia

>play healer
>tanks dont protect me
>dps run out of range or los me so i cant heal them

careers for this feel?
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>>1566223
it's just like real waaagh
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inv Lanzas to guild
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new scenario map rotation!
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>play ranked
>4dps instalock
OH MAMA
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>>1567090
how do you even into ranked?
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>>1566723
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>>1567206
hot
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try witch elf again
check your Toggle Walk/Run bind because I never had an issue being slowed while stealthed
it plays like a much more idealized WoW rogue (still got your 5 'combo points' + finisher) but you can reduce their overall HP stat, you can slow them if theyre far enough away and turned around, you have an ability that completely ignores armor if theyre facing away from you, weapon buff that gives a chance to reduce healing received on the target; it's been a lot of fun having actual utility and strength but very much a glass cannon
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>>1567346
I'm chilling with my squig herder during dead hours for some comfy plinking. Chosen is already enough high octane melee gameplay with how much shit you have to juggle.
I can definitely see the appeal in popping fools as a witch elf. Whenever you're alone and see a witch hunter uncloak, you know immediately that you're 100% fucked.

Kind of curious about Swordmaster after the last days of playing scenarios. Seems like they have some very good 1v1 potential and also a good amount of armor penetration.
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>Scenario Tiers
Scenarios are divided by Tiers in order to balance the playing field of your opponents. Those tiers are:

You can join scenarios solo, or with friends in premade groups.
T1: Level 1-15
T2/3: Level 16-39
T4: Level 40+
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>complete https://wiki.returnofreckoning.com/Dark_Elves_T1_Epic_Quest_Legend_and_Infamy
>get pic related
:X
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>>1567184
>>1566714
>>1567984
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>Get more consistent queues here than in swtor's west coast server
Actually surprised.
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>>1568215
Swtor has terrible performance issues in PvP. Same devs btw.
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>bought the wrong piece of armor
>no refund system just making a gm ticket and hoping a janny takes pity
well thats like 90 crests down the drain
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>>1568309
they come quick with orvr AND you get 5 crests per scout quest in every single orvr area. the only caveat is that you cannot get completion for scouting an objective if that zone is currently locked.
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>hit a whole group of enemies
>absorb absorb absorb absorb absorb parry absorb block absorb absorb parry absorb absorb block absorb absorb absorb absorb block absorb absorb parry absorb absorb
Fucking amazing... and this is low level.
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>>1568660
TTK gets worse.
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>>1568671
Can't get worse than this. 7 minutes in and order capped all the nodes plus topped all the charts
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>it's another episode of order having 5 bazillion healers while we have none or a few
I mean really, like 11 out of 24 or 7 out of 12 are healers. Ridiculous, what's the point even. I saw 4 DPS players hitting a single healer and it just wouldn't die.
There should be a system that starts decreasing your max health so you can't be healed forever. Or just decreasing the effectiveness of heals, and these reset out of combat.
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>>1569914
>Not only a healer, but also a warrior priest
Shit is disgusting, deals damage, heals and soaks damage like a fucking sponge. Like a wow paladin but all specs rolled into one. And then there's retards that keep yelling "HIT DA HEALER" as if it mattered when there's half a dozen in the same spot and the entire group doesn't drop a single hit point
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>>1569914
This came up yesterday in the WB I was in, I guess Chaos doesn't attract healsluts.
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>>1569914
scenarios shouldn't even pop unless they start with 2/2/2 to begin with
BUT
time spent working on the game is time taken away from policing thoughtcrime in chat
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>>1569986
I'd play DoK but BG and Sorc are much cooler, or maybe shaman but then again any Greenskin careers are just as cool or cooler than sham...
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>>1570003
>pick a Greenskin
>allowed to insult everybody and say whatever the fuck you want as long as it fits within RP parameters
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>>1570003
I kind of get it. Why roll Destruction yet choose a Healer?
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>>1570007
>"They call us zigzogs!"

>>1569988
>policing thoughtcrime in chat
Wonder if they unpersoned the guy that said yesterday they aren't balancing White Lion because is a dev pick
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>>1569988
That's how it works in the ranked mode.
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>>1570018
I called it a dev class myself sometime yesterday and surprisingly didn't get a mute.
>>1570026
Good. It should be the default.
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>>1569914
>queue up today as mara
>see enemy team come into vision
>3 archmages 3 warrior priests 3 runemasters 3 knights
>leave
idc if our team had a few healers as well my ass was not about to try and coordinate fighting 9 fucking healers
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>>1570062
>try and coordinate fighting 9 fucking healers
That's the neat part, you don't. Even if you had the entire group focusing on a single nigger, it won't drop dead. Reading tooltips in the calculator, there are skills that reduce incoming healing and healing done but I bet they amount for jackshit in practice
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>>1570087
not him, but I always pop those and try to keep on all the time, but they doesn't seem to do much with 2 or 3 healers there and people not focusing them and timing CCs
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>WAR general active
UGGGGGGH now I want to play!!! I took a picture of my WAR box irl but my phone was being a nigger and not showing up through my computer so no updoots for me

>>1570062
Even low level healers can be absurdly strong. Ridiculous.
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>>1570114
I had the game too, but traded it for WotLK with someone. Regret it a little.
Here is a pic from the early days of the RoR server with a 4chan guild.
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>>1570118
I actually still have these
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>>1570118
I played on my own for a month before I went broke because I was shit at money management back then. I did play the beta beforehand and DoK was a ton of fun.
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>>1570179
I think it's in. not sure what any of this means or how to work it. do you need a standard bearer with a standard equipped for it to affect you?
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>>1570197
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>>1570226
t1 is the most fun, every time I come back I reroll
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any 32+ interested in running mount gunbad? got 5 gits ready to roll
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left wing down, we're doing it
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Is that disk the magus always rides on a skill or a permanent feature of the player model?
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>>1570495
permanent
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right wing too hard, we're not doing it anymore
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we completed 40% of gunbad!
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>>1570522
needs an fps counter in the corner at the single digits
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>>1570591
You guys on the middle wing now?
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>>1570567
>Order be like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrU2LNkd8r8
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>>1570625
we dumpstered the left wing, got wrecked at the chipper snotling boss on right wing and then killed the wrong guy first in middle wing which bricked the instance.
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>log in
>queue scs
>6 people cant kill a single warrior priest
>alt f4
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are these buttons supposed to be working? my pet seems stuck on defensive.
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>>1555989 (OP)
Fuck I bought this game in September 2008 and played with a bunch of dudes from /v/ back then. Played for a month and then left it like everyone else. Was a shame too, but it was clearly not finished and much of that came down to EA trying to rush it out the door to compete with Wrath of the Lich King (they removed 2 cities in development).
So is too late to join the MMOdventure event with only 5 days left?
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>>1570711
we're switching game this saturday night, so it's probably too late to join the mid-level stuff, where the bulk of us are currently at.
we do have some people pissing about with low level alts and a late starter that just reached level 16. also, one anon has said that he wants to keep playing this after the MMOdventure moves on.
I'd say try it out if you want to see the game again. the jannies in this are redditor discord trannies with a spiked club stuck in their ass, but most of the pub groups have been pretty pleasant regardless.
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Hey, you hardcore PvP-junkies. Are you exhausted from all the dueling yet? Got your ass beat sore by a stack of not-Paladins one too many times? Tired of your dumb nigger ape teammates not giving a shit about the map objective and instead wailing on the main tank until your team finally gets put out of its misery by a well deserved loss?
Why not join the MMOdventure in its quest to explore many other exciting and action-packed MMO worlds! You can even vote on our next destination and experience the joy of being stuck in a game that you actually totally didn't want to play at all. Sounds too good to be true? Just see for yourself if you can't believe something this great could even exist. The vote can be yours and it might even tip the scale. The scale that weighs all the voting ballots.


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>screenshot your character and character information window, see pic related
>attach this screenshot to an email addressed at mmodventure@proton.me

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>>1570118
I actually happen to have some screenshots going all the way back to WAR beta.
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>>1570830
>Got your ass beat sore by a stack of not-Paladins one too many times?
I swear, Warrior Priest must be on the top of cancerous classes I had the displeasure to encounter. Even shit like the cheesy classes in swtor can be nuked if someone marks them in time and get focused fire.
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>>1570926
I've heard tales of archmages being able to kite 2-3 people indefinitely, but as you said the runepriest menace feels much more oppresive with their retarded tankiness. At least you can see the healthbar move when you get to whack an archmage.
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>>1570975
archmages feel like they are able to fight back however and deal noticeable damage
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>>1570975
>runepriest menace feels much more oppresive with their retarded tankiness
That too. I lost count of how many times I've seen those midgets just running around healing everything completely unburdened even with three or more fuckers whacking him. Slows and snare and the fucker just keeps running at full speed like it's nothing while everyone lags behind.
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Is this pserver still alive?
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>>1571521
yes?
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>>1571540
ok. i never played this game back in the late 00s. Which faction or class would be the best for a beginner?
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>>1571544
>faction
I'm not sure about the pubbie experience, but order seems to have the super coordinated autist groups that fuck shit up consistently. You'll probably never get into those without sucking dick in a discord for months, but they'll fight along your side.

>class
classes are faction locked. the healers seem very overpowered in general and are probably the easiest to play with some of the add-ons you can install to make the job easier. the dumb tiger bitch on order side seems pretty easy too, you are doing a lot already by spamming the tanky ass tiger and sending it to your enemies.
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would you?
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this guy has a point
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>>1571571
>classes are faction locked
For what is worth, here's the comparison. They are not exact mirrors as far as I'm aware (some skills are different between factions).
-Knight of the Blazing Sun/Chosen: Basic tank. Can have up to three Commands/Auras to buff nearby allies or debuff enemies.
-Swordmaster/Black Orc: Has a three stage mechanic. Some skills raise you to stage two, others require stage two and move you to three, and ones that need stage three and send you back to stage one.
-Ironbreaker/Blackguard: Bodyguard-esque Tank. Has a gauge that fills when you or your designated charge get hit. Some skills spend the gauge for bonus effects.
-Witch Hunter/Witch elf: A rogue. Build combo points then finishers.
-Slayer/Choppa: Has a three stage rage gauge that fills as you fight. At stage two, you deal more damage. At stage three, the damage buff increases further AND your defenses go down. Several attacks empty the gauge and deal bonus damage depending of the rage level
-White Lion/Marauder. Both melee, but play different: The first has that fucking pet, while Marauder has stance-like arm mutations.
-Engineer/Magus: Ranged attacker that summons turrets/demons (that don't move from their summoning circle kek)
-Bright wizard/Sorcerer: A typical mage but with a gauge that makes you crit more and harder as it raises but has the chance of causing a backlash, dealing increasing damage to yourself.
-Shadow Warrior/Squig Herder. Same as WL/Mara, but ranged. The SW is the one using stances while the SH summons a pet
-Archmage/Shaman: Healer/Caster. Healing spells gives a buff to damaging spells and viceversa
-Warrior Priest/Disciple of Khaine: Melee healer. Builds Righteous Fury/Soul Essence required for some skills
-Runepriest/Zealot: Healer/Buffer. Gives runes/marks that buff the recipient and gives them a skill.
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>>1570990
>me and 3 other guys see a lone warrior priest roaming
>he kills us all 1v4 with no effort and his health bar doesnt even move
>get into some sc it doesnt matter
>5 people wailing on a runepriest and nothing happens

>meanwhile our healers
>shaman dies in 2 taps
>zealot does something allegedly
>DoK needs a PhD to actually heal and dps at the same time
wouldnt be surprised if healers being unkillable faggots is why the game, in part, ended up dying
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>>1571807
>me and 3 other guys see a lone warrior priest roaming
>he kills us all 1v4 with no effort and his health bar doesnt even move
uhhh, anon.... I wouldn't be admitting this one in public
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>>1571833
normally id chalk it up to being undergeared and retarded but i watched him rip a choppa clean in half and two shot a DoK
he was probably some sick fuck in sov but it was still horrifying to watch a """"healer"""" kill 4 people by himself
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>>1569938
WP/DoK are one of those classes that feel so much more OP when you're not playing them. They're sub-par at everything outside of being a slightly worse target to go for than a cloth wearer. They don't have the heals to keep a single target alive but their AoE heals are aight.

>>1571842
Sounds like an absurdly high RR and geared player. A hybrid like WP/DoK will pretty much always win a "equal" fight against a opponent that doesn't have a negative healing modifier
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Let's wrap up our short time in Warhammer with some guild photos. Be ready for pictures at 9:15pm Saturday (UTC).
>Time converter: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Warhammer+Guild+Pictures&iso=20250111T2115&p1=1440

The MMOdventure will continue into the next game at 11:00pm Saturday (UTC).
>Time converter: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Bizarre+MMOdventure+-+Game+19&iso=20250111T23&p1=1440
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>see all the posts about healers being these unkillable juggernauts
>never played a healer so i roll a runepriest and check it out
>clearly these fags are posting hyperbole right?
>my fucking face
>keep entire parties at full hp
>take 0 damage
>damage is nil but who cares
>random tank guards me
>we're fucking invincible
>game feels like i enabled cheat codes
was it always like this
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>>1572026
I don't think it was as bad back in the day but I'm not sure how much of it is the server's changes and people just plain sucking at games back in the day

the same baseline of losing a scenario because you had 1 healer and enemy team had 5 was always a thing
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Nuking down healers is a lot easier with a coordinated and experienced group, to be fair, but yes they're the kings of unorganised PvP for sure.
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>people talking about how magus dots don't stack in warbands
>multiple people of the same class cannot cast the same dot on one person
>assume it's probably the same for other dot classes
wew lads i've never heard of something like that in an MMO before
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>>1572446
Magus/Engineer have an outrageous amount of DoTs. It's probably for the best.
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>>1572446
>multiple people of the same class cannot cast the same dot on one person
Yes they can, and as far as I know the damage does stack.
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>4 of us hitting a solo lvl 38 IB in SC and it just won't go down
I wanna believe the others were shitters, because I am more tanky than damage
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>>1572762
iron status?
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>>1572762
IBs are very tanky.
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Did anyone put any serious effort into raising a crafting skill? I know we had a few wannabe scavengers and talisman crafters.
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>>1572818
BROKEN
just like the WP that did 200k dmg in a match while our top 3 dmg, 3 sorcs, did ~120k each, or the RP that joined and suddenly we started losing, because he was pumping out more heals than our two top healers combined
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>22 overall votes for faction
>barely 12 individuals tops played the game
heh
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>>1573028
And you have at least one me who only saw the /v/ thread and didn't vote
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New banana caster spotted. Artefacts because I upscaled 300%.

>>1573034
I didn't vote myself. To be fair, nobody ever researched (to know about) the seeming huge disparity between classes; and dumb shit like AAO bugged in favor of Order.
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>>1573028
i didnt even know /vm/ was doing a thing with WAR because ive played the game long before it
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o ya re: some week old convo
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>>1555989
I can't find the guild on the guild search tool
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>>1573442
it should be visible. what is your IGN?
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>>1573458
Orcoth (somebody already took Korgoth and Orgoth)
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>>1573022
>that joined and suddenly
this is one of the worst aspects of scenarios- starting out with a fun and fair (implying) 6v6 that devolves into a 20v20 clusterfuck within minutes has really hampered my enjoyment in many rounds.
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>>1573644
>20v20 clusterfuck
In any other instance, I would love to have an actual skirmish sized battle instead of two small teams, but having a couple of healers trivializing every single point of damage dealt by the entire group to the point of overkill really ruins the mood, and the whole players having collision thing, while cool on paper turned out to be shit in practice, I get blocked by other teammates trying to gang up on someone more often that I get to see a shield wall stopping the enemy (plus people still can slip through the tiniest crack in a formation).
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>>1573974
yeah, it's rare when I can body block someone from running away
or stopping enemies is something I only seen in doorways or on bridges and likely by accident
but when it works it works and great
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>>1573469
my homie you are in for a bad time if you are PvEing and only leveling your rank.
your renown rank comes from pvp and is a requirement to wear better tiers of armor. and yes you can gain normal experience through pvp - be it scenario or open world - to level your normal rank that way.
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guild pic and farewell soon
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>watch two ''small scale'' groups going at it
>go afk for more than 10 minutes
>come back, they are still fighting
I'm sure at some point they got bored and moved on
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>1264 online
not bad
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>>1574184
I played this game back in launch in 2008 up to like rank 25. I'm rank 10 atm with this character I made last night.
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these need killing
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Maybe I'll come back to it at some point.
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>>1573974
p sure players of the same faction do not collide. it's only opposing factions.
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>>1575199
No it's both. Collision only turns on if there's a pvp flagged enemy nearby though.
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>>1575195
AWOOGA
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>join scenario
>entire team gets one kill total
/vm/ how do i carry 23 other people
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>>1575333
you should try the shaman masterrace, I've heard good things
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>>1575485
idk if mork can save me man
my teammates ain't brutally kunnin' or kunningly brutal
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>>1575547
I feel you, it's maddening to see your team running into a deathgrinder for 8 minutes straight without even considering to cap one of the undefended objectives. I definitely felt my ASSFAGGOTS gamer rage broiling up again in this.
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we never completed gunbad!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>1575726
I'm unironically up for a gunbad session at some specified time. Might need to fill the party with some pubbies if we do that.
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>>1575850
Maybe toward next weekend once the hubbub of [new game] dies down.
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we won with 6 points to spare. not as cool as praecordia.
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>>1575718
i'm the opposite but only in open RVR. the only thing that matters to me is the fight, because capping objectives just makes it so the fight moves to another zone. annoys the shit out of me to join a warband that's just running around capping shit so instead i just solo heal wherever i see a fight happening. basically if there was a version of battlefield 3 24/7 metro i'd be on that all day
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>>1572446
As far as games go that's pretty common actually. Lodoss Online instantly pops to mind as one of those games where the dot class was worthless because of it. Well, it didn't even end there. That game was heavily favoring physical damage because there were skills that lowered enemies physical defense but nothing like that for magical defense so stacking a party full of physical damage classes was way more effective.
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>>1575011
It used to hit 3k regularly.
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>>1579855
And how long has the server been active?
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>get into a tier 1 sc after an hour of waiting
>its a 5v5
>enemy team is FOUR FUCKING WARRIOR PRIESTS AND A WITCH HUNTER
>lose in the most miserable slog of a game ive ever had because every single member of their team takes 0 damage, heals any they do take and our single healer makes no attempt to stay alive and just gets punched in the face
there needs to be a button that lets you skip to t2 this fucking sucks
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>>1581607
don't worry, that happened to me at T2 too
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>>1579855
I know, been playing on and off since 2016.
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lets schedule the gunbad completion attempt, when are you guys up for that? sunday afternoon?
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>>1582864
i already uninstalled, go on without me...
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>>1582864
that should work for me. so 2/6 lol
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>>1582864
I guess I could join, as dps or tank
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>>1582864
Can play whatever role you guys need.



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