>>1558494
Sean doesn't deserve to be up there with ultra hacks like Roberts and Howard.

Don't care about this game anymore. They don't care about space. They don't care to fix the wrong star sizes. They don't care to explain how the terrestrial planets of Stanton have multiple rounded moons each. They don't care to make the scale sensible so clouds don't look retarded from orbit. They don't care to make flight enjoyable. They don't care to retcon the Star Wars alien races out. Guess I'm just waiting for Verse Project to be playable.

>>1558502
>Don't care about this game anymore
Don't believe you

>>1558503
I only saw this thread because of my auto watcher.

>>1558505
Didn't ask

>>1558502
good thing there's plenty of alternatives in this day and age
Already out
>outer wilds
>space engineers
>KSP
>children of a dead earth
>evochron legacy
>space engineers
>flight of nova

Future releases
>kitten space agency
>space engineers 2
>verse project

Okay then, how the hell do you solve the multi-crew dilemma? Make multii-crew ships useful without making light fighters useless or vice versa.

Since all the PvP nerds made their own combat ship tier list, I made this one for you guys (PvP or PvE is up to you) https://tiermaker.com/create/scam-citizens-best-combat-ships-of-2025-17765217

Let me know if I missed a ship.

>>1558507
Neither did I.
>>1558508
>outer wilds
Not really what I'm looking for.
>space engineers
Not set in Sol + not 1:1 scale.
>KSP
Bad graphics (literally the main appeal of space)
>children of a dead earth
Storycringe.
>evochron legacy
Never heard of but sounds like storycringe.
>space engineer
Not set in Sol + not 1:1 scale.
>flight of nova
Never heard of but sounds like sci-fi shit.
>kitten space agency
Keeping an eye on it, but if the base game isn't set in Sol, I will not play it.
>space engineers 2
Not set in Sol + not 1:1 scale.
>verse project
Only one I'm hopeful for but seems far away from completion.

>>1558522
>never heard of it but blah blah blah gay shit
retard

>>1558502
I know SC will never be complete these indie games never have a shot in hell of ever being complete. Seems like every other week there's a space indie game that will do all this awesome stuff and they never get completed or have 1.0 slapped on it with most of the promised features missing.

The only real complete one is really Space Engineers and that feels like Minecraft more than anything. As tired as the saying is, Star Citizen does feel great to play. No I don't mean the shitty server issues or the UI not working but just the planets, the ship interiors and being able to go from all of that to one another assuming the server doesn't blow your ship up, is really unparalleled in my opinion. Yes I know you can do the same in Space Engineers but it has nowhere near the presentation of Star Citizen.

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>>1558512
Here's my list. I didn't rate ships that I haven't flown

>>1558497
Thanks for declaring that you're illiterate and entirely incapable of formulating a reasoned response. Very brave. Please start using a trip so I can filter you.
>>1558502
>Verse Project
>Russoids
>Playable
Yeah ok retard.
>>1558508
Every one of these 'games' is ass.
>>1558522
You're an enormous faggot and should just 'play' Orbiter if you're so autistic about space and hate 'story' and 'scifi' not sure why you'd have ever come here in the first place considering Star Citizen/SW42 is a spiritual successor to Freelancer, a game more 'scifi' and 'storycringe' than anything on that list. An hero.

>>1558512
no point making a list right now ships are just balanced following the sales
in the future there should be a counter for all ships

>>1558549
>KSP
>Space Engineers
>Outer Wilds
>ass
can you put on a trip so I can immediately filter your shitty takes, thanks

I like Star Citizen

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>>1558546
Fellow pulse chad

>>1558552
Outer Wilds is a pretentious emotional indie game, not a space game.
Space Weedgineers is pure sandbox terminal early access trash with zero gameplay and I say that as someone with workshop creations in it that have actual subscribers.
KSP is the closest thing on the list to being an actual space game and while it's more of a space program tycoon game, it's infected with le quirky reddit cringe and KSP2 proved the developers are beyond trash. Juno New Origins is the real KSP2.
>>1558552
>can you put on a trip so I can immediately filter your shitty takes, thanks
You first nigger. Just go back.

>>1558566
holy shit, you're an unbelievably miserable human being

>>1558549
>No I didn't say that!
You said we should look to world of fucking tanks as an example of balancing the game. Just because you preface that doesn't meant you're not making the statement. Worse still you don't think historical arms had anything to do with the elements of rock paper scissors. It's so stupid it's unbelievable. I'd say the other guy is right and you need a trip but your posts are so easy to spot it's not hard to skip over them.

>>1558549
I have thousands of battles in world of tanks and your post just proves you don't understand the game beyond beginner level. Being able to read what wargaming says about a tank or tank class is miles away from understanding the gameplay.

>>1558566
>>1558552
both of you are new as any anon who's been here for a long time dislikes tripfagging, plus you don't need to be a tripfag to be easily identifiable. Out of all games star citizen is by far the worse for your type of people.

>>1558575
I pointed to the overall relationship between classes as the example and you have yet to make any sort of point at all.
Furthermore you're the perfect example of a middlebrained dipshit who wants to reduce everything to some retarded model. You can find thousands of examples in history that destroy your incredibly weak gamer brained rock paper scissors faggotry but you're a redditor so you won't think about it, you'll just regurgitate.
>>1558581
I have 12k battles and a clan war win on my profile. I'm not talking about the absolute disastrous state of the game under WGtardation, I'm talking about the game design theory represented as I described independent of the actual game. Only a midwit is unable to separate the two.
>>1558582
>No u.

>>1558586
post win %

>>1558502
Where is the unsubscribe button, your blog posts are always autistic as shit.

>>1558586
that's not what "no u" means

>>1558586
>I pointed to
Not reading all that. You're retarded for even suggesting this game should look to world of fucking tanks for any sort of balance says everything anyone needs to know about you. Thanks for posting. Here's your (you) faggot.

>>1558596
Once again proving you're illiterate and factually incapable of engaging in meaningful conversation about game design.
>>1558591
I'm gonna unicum in your mouth.
>>1558595
no u

>what we need
every ship to have a clearly defined role, place, and reason to be brought
>what we're going to get
like three ships that dominate the meta forever, only changing when CIG slaps one of the kings with a heavyhanded nerf

>what we need
is a F2P slave class, yes.

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>>1558601
>meaningful conversation about game design.
>I'm gonna unicum in your mouth.
Here is why you're retarded: In Wot lights have better view range than all other classes, in SC, that would simply translate into a small scout ship having a stronger radar with better range than a capital class radar, this is a simple example of why using Wot as an example of game design for SC makes you a braindead retard.

>>1558605
nah, the lowest CIG will go for game packages will probably be like $20, and that'll just get you a shitty armor set and one FPS gun, and the ability to log in. lack of players willing to transport FPS only starters that have a whopping 6k uec will mean they'll just fuck around for a while and quit

>>1558502
>how the terrestrial planets of Stanton have multiple rounded moons each
this is the first time I've heard of this being unrealistic

>>1558623
Sim autist posts in nearly every thread, as does the spectrum user who complains about pvp.

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>>1558670
The no fun allowed pvp guy has been here for a month

>>1558623
We have a number of autists.
There is planet size autist.
Drshredd the tranny from griefernet.
Paragraph autist who posts paragraphs of spiel no one ever reads.
And finally the fortnite boomer who hates that he can't RP as captain picard with a capital ship full of npc's to cater to him.

>>1558707
Oh yea don't forget the "everyone that disagrees with me is drshredd" schizo

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>>1558707
don't forget the antipvp autist from spectrum, how could we forget about him? The loudest lowest IQ anon in these threads.

>>1558707
there's also that schizo who calls people fatty

>>1558707
Along with the
>boomer! hahahahahaha schizo!!!!
exclamation poster

>>1558759
>>1558770
>>1558772
3 posts describing the same anon that has been here for the last month spamming his garbage

>>1558502
Are you playing Reentry?

>>1558775
Thought maybe we were talking about the same guy. Easily the worst poster in this thread and intolerably shits up the place.

>>1558606
I didn't suggest that. That does indeed sound retarded.

>take a bunch of solar hauling missions
>load up ship
>attempt to leave
>server error
>recovers
>attempt to leave
>ship despawns, dropping me fifteen feet into my hangar
>resummon it
>attempt to leave
>leave
>go to first lagrange station
>open cargo
>cargo's gone
>go back to everus to see if it got stored
>can't land
>go to lorville
>claim only ship left on everus
>wait
>return to everus
>can't land
>return to lorville
>quit

>>1558874
SC already has more classes than wot. For example in Wot terrain matters just as much if not more than the tank you are playing. A light tank vs a heavy in himmelsdorf vs prok are two completely different scenarios, whereas in all SC spaceships have 6º of freedom, making it something completely different. SC classes would be something closer to World of Warships than Wot. But then again in Wow Carriers are support vessels, whereas in SC carriers are the main ships in a fleet.

Anybody know how the hell the Polaris map globe thing is supposed to work in the future? It looks too small to show anything in detail.

>>1558918
Probably something akin to the map app in the mobi-glas, but on a much larger scale and other people can interact with it.

>>1558546
the Retaliator is so cool but boy is it absurdly impractical.

>>1558775
>>1558782
You're retarded, the fatty schizo is the guy who made the initial post. I can tell by the
>LE CAPTAIN PICARD LE CAPTAIN PICARD NO FUN ALLOWED
and he's obviously not anti PVP since he never shuts the fuck up about how he's going to do X Y and Z in game and then proceeds to do fuck all
Serious PvPers are the worst this community has to offer, because you have to be legit unhinged and retarded to take this bug ridden mess with a balance team staffed by monies seriously as a PvP experience. Even AC isn't worth playing because the game doesn't have a finished flight model.

>>1558922
im looking at the pledge site and the retaliator only has turrets? i thought it was a missle boat, it even has missiles in the promo pic. no missle hardpoint listed though.

>>1558937
it has torpedoes, you can swap them out to turn it into a shitty transport

>>1558942
do torpedoes not show up on the hardpoint page?

>>1558934
there is nothing wrong with shooting everything on sight in Pyro, whether we are in a buggy alpha or years after release.

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>>1558953
idk how they're doing it on the official site, on erkul they're under the modules section alongside the cargo bays. it may be that they decided the retaliator doesn't come with any modules and you have to buy them after the fact, which would be fucking funny because the front torp bay costs 1.8 mil and the rear costs 800k, before you consider the cost of loading them with size 9 torps which is another 1.8 mil for six, for a total of 4.4 mil, or more than half of the cost of the ship itself

the cargo modules are 470k and 450k to have less shields and cargo than an MSR, but four more size 3s if you have five retards to man all the turrets for you

>>1558960
Sure, but it doesn't make you skilled and it is a complete waste of time. You can be technically correct and still retarded.

If you actually PvP you're in AC, but most of you are shit and get stomped in AC by the nolifer regulars.

>>1558962
That's not including how much of a pain it is to load/unload the rear cargo with how its designed, I swear this thing is designed for CBT enthusiasts. Can't even get an ARGO through the doors or docking port.

>>1558937
>>1558962
Originally the Retaliator was the Retaliator Bomber which included the torpedo bays, then they made it modular so there's multiple bays to choose from. Now the Retaliator is sold at a cheaper base price but without any modules and you can buy the modules as a standalone pledge or through ingame currency. If the cargo module was a little wider it'd actually be a pretty nice ship because it's a brick shithouse of durability and you'd be able to fit an actual ground vehicle into it that would accomodate most/all crew for exploration or bunker running and still have 4 giant fuck you torpedoes.

>>1558975
the only things it really has over an MSR as a cargo runner are 4 more guns, 4x the HP, and the shield is a bubble so it kinda has more HP than the MSR even though the MSR has a large.

even then, it's retarded because they did the "lol, six size 2s" thing with it so the shields are fucking impossible to power.

>>1558974
Being insulted by multiple anons wasn't enough to get you stop posting? We found the nofunallowed homo.

>>1558983
Amd there it is, the biggest failing of this shitty site for the last 10 years.

>>1558977
>zero (0!) pilot guns
>you need at least three other people just to have firepower equivalent to a fighter
>torpedoes are basically useless as they either get shot down (sometimes in your face), or hit with countermeasures like any other missile
it's a really shit ship by current standards, only getting by with multicrew or "surely they'll release those features they've been talking about" cope.

>>1558991
Yeah in its current state there's basically no reason to run it. They'd need to upsize all the guns to size 4 and add another power plant to even make it a consideration to bring.

>>1558953
The torpedo tubes are a separate module, you have to pay for those with real monies from the rsi store.

>>1558998
You can buy them ingame, they're just extremely expensive.

>>1558989
Feel free to go back to spectrum with your autism then, no one here will stop you

>>1558997
i don't think better powerplants would save it, the current maximum is 30 bars of power and it gets to 26 already. it doesn't have enough maximum weapons power to fully power TEN s3 energy weapons, nevermind making them size fours, and needing a minimum of 18 power to power the shields fully is fucking retarded and i don't know why they can't see that for the ret and deemer.

i legitimately cannot find a line to follow the logic of their ship design on most ships, other than "uhhhhh we'll completely fuck it up for now and fix it later, lol"

>>1559003
>>1558991
>"surely they'll release those features they've been talking about" cope.
le captain picard is still here

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>>1559007
yes, i'm whatever boogieman you believe i am and not someone really annoyed by CIG's inability to get their shit together after twelve fucking years. they promised us over 100 systems and it took them four years just to release the second, there's no chance of them meeting all of their promises before the heat death of the universe, which only begs the question of what they're going to wind up cutting.

>>1559013
That image tells me why your posts are so aggressive: You are emotionally invested into this game. You type like a child throwing a tamper tantrum.

>>1559023
>deflection and personal attacks
>nothing to respond to the reality that no matter what roberts says, it's pretty much inevitable that planned features are going to get cut at this point
i genuinely don't care whether this game lives or dies at this point, i mainly only play it because my friend enjoys playing it, and we're frequently mutually frustrated by it. at the end of the day, planned features are absolutely going to get axed, if this team ever gets its shit together well enough to make the PU into a halfway viable product for any group of people beyond the autists that bought into roberts' fantasies in the first place.

maybe, MAYBE sq42 finishing will turn things around, but frankly, with how poorly that's been going, i'd say it's pretty likely we see a lot of resignations once that's out the door and they just lose another giant chunk of people that know what the fuck is actually going on with the game, only to replace them with yet more people that need to be brought up to speed.

>>1559024
>acuse others of deflection and personal attacks
>after telling everyone they are "coping" because no NPC crews
low verbal iq
>i genuinely don't care whether this game lives or dies at this point
Then why do you waste your time posting in this thread?

>>1559025
>telling everyone they were coping
at this point, it IS cope to rely on unreleased features, especially on CIG's side of things because they seem willing to reboot shit at any time. guns have been rebalanced like, four or five times that i recall now, probably more, the flight system has been redone two or three times (jesus FUCK that hover mode thing was retarded) and is liable to change again, even their market ideas seem to change constantly. they very much seem to lack for someone who has any idea what things -should- be like to tell them when something is done.

and i'm coping just as much as anyone else when i say "hey, maybe that ship will get unfucked in the future" or "well that system is mildly jank right now but it could be neat"
>Then why do you waste your time posting in this thread?
i don't care about whether the train does or doesn't crash, i'm just going to watch it.

>>1558983
Dude really did bust in the thread true to form like the Kool aid man

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>>1559025
>Then why do you waste your time posting in this thread?
It's like watching webms of jeets being hit by trains.
I have no say or control over the rate at which the train moves, or whether or not someone will die as a result. But I do still enjoy the spectacle of seeing the human equivalent of a crash test dummy be subjected to the blunt force trauma of a locomotive.
It's meditative in a sick kind of way. Because by witnessing the folly of other men, I am able to come to terms with the fact that most bad things in this life happen for no good reason.
Star Citizen's success (or failure) is completely out of my hands. And I'm okay with that.

>>1559067
yet in your original post >>1558991 you proved you still know the current meta better than me, that doesn't sound like detachment, it sounds like what you accused me of: a cope.

>>1559067
You have to be 18 to post here.

>>1559074
That wasn't me.

so the ares ion exist
why is there no plan on making more railgun ships?

>>1559095
fuck rail guns i want type94s

>>1559095
Ion's weapon is just a size 7 laser cannon. You have the Perseus, Nautilus and Idris (off the top of my head) that have S7 weapons aswell, but the Idris-k (iirc) has an actual S10 railgun.

>>1559095
Ion isn't really a railgun, it's an energy weapon. that said it's a lot of fun. I think the idris main gun works on the same principle; long-charging star trek "they're charging up the main cannon!" type weapon. in fact I'm pretty sure the comm lady during XT said exactly that. someone last thread said they're doing away with that mechanic on the Ion and if true that will make it a much bigger dick in combat.

>>1559101
>You have the Perseus, Nautilus and Idris
do we though
do we

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>>1559101
Idris k has a S10 laser gun of some sort and the m has the railgun

Man, sitting in orbit and watching all the little ship lights zooming around at night in one of the popular spots in Pyro is super cool. Really trippy when you can see their headlights sweeping across the landscape.

>>1558962
I knew this would happen after they said they would sell uec for real money.

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Bros had enough.

>>1559101
>Nautilus
Lol, mines.

Considering grabbing an A1 for Pyro. What's the best place to get bomb kills?

Endgame combat is so shit, PS is fun right until the game starts spawning Hammerheads.

>>1558501
Agreed, give Sean Murray a break. He's an insecure introvert who didn't have the back bone to say no. At least he redeemed himself later down the line.

>>1558502
Admittedly it's weird for the team to not work on spaceflight and space related things since they are so obviously unfinished and broken. I don't agree with all of your OCD shit but I don't think anything outside of space stuff should be worked on, manage the fucking scope so we can actually play

>>1558510
Make them have completely different size categories.
Eg. Fighters can only damage fighters, large ships can't hit fighters reliably. You can even do it by matching armor levels gun size. Eg. Large ships can only be damaged by S5 and above, medium S4 and above, capitals by S7 and above.. etc.

Then ships of certain sizes in imaginary fleet fight will focus on ships that their size and and to some extent role enables and ignore the rest.

This one is juicy,.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uqnULNe0MY

>>1558546
What's your reasoning for Polaris not being in S tier, outside of thematic reasons?

Also Connie Phoenix should be higher, not sure where but probably B tier at least

HH should maybe be lower

>>1558918
Same as Carrack

>>1558918
Globes are apparently for commanding fleets. You can give orders to ships through it and it will appear as missions for the pilots.

>>1559510
The Polaris can't be S-tier because it's to ram and gets one shot by ramming

>>1559513
Is this mentioned anywhere or is it pure headcanon.

>>1559569
They mentioned it at Citizencon in one of the panels that you'd be able to use globes on capital ships to direct fleets. Although considering it's from citcon it may as well be head canon.

>>1559569
>>1559584
Rich Tyrer talks about it in this video about capital ship combat gameplay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvimc3d3d_I

I'm too lazy to give you a timestamp

>>1559501
Guns need to vary more by size. We don't need the same gun just in awful>sucks>good>better>best
Like CF S1->S5 are just improvements over each other each time instead of completely different types of guns. Imagine if a battleship just mounted giant M2 .50 cals.

>>1559670
What we need is caliber and size, put known gun calibers inside the diferent sizes of weapons.

What is it about this game that causes such a big cult like behaviour in boomers?

>>1559723
What is it about being you that makes you such a simpering little queer?

What is it really?

>>1559723
Boomers are cattle.

>>1559723
What's worse, the plebbit SC cultist or the tourist on 4chan SC threads spamming garbage in every thread even though he gets send back to spectrum everytime he posts?

>>1559518
Understood, carry on.

Does the game still generate random ships for you to salvage or is it only these gay ass panels.

>>1559723
Nerds that grew up liking garbage sci fi like star wars now have disposable income so they blindly follow Chris because of his past work on garbage sci fi

>>1559769
There are still salvage missions, yes.

>>1559769
Yeah but apparently panels are faster profit

>>1559714
I don't quite understand your post.
I mean, I do, I understand the words, I just don't understand your intent. You want all ballistics with 16"/50 and 5"/38s on the ships?

>>1559785
I mean ships that just randomly spawn as derelicts for salvage like panels. Last time I played salvaged was when Vulture first released and I would randomly come across ships like c2 and avengers. I had a infograph posted here awhe ago about what system spawns what ships etc.

>>1559816
I'm not actually sure they spawn anymore, or that I've seen since 3.18. Cheatsheets for Salvage and where these derelict ships supposedly spawn are in the OP's rentry, so if anyone wants to validate them, feel free.

>>1559714
The people running the game can't even get basic shit right and you want to make it even .kre complicated?

>>1559816
They are there

Twice now I've gotten a weird EMP effect around Pyro V that completely kills my ship. It just happened when I QTed to an OM point. Does a EMP effect on my HUD and then my MFDs shut down and never come back. I can cycle power on and off but it does nothing, ship says power or engines are on, but no MFDs and no thrust.

>>1560006
Are they bringing back the solar flare?

>>1560160
I assume it's a bug related to it, but as I said, I've only gotten it around Pyro V. 2 is a pretty small sample size though, so maybe it could of happened anywhere.

So were the working servers a temp fix?

Is the Drake Herald the ultimate solo Pyro ship?
>not talking about data running
>buccaneer speed
>interior
>small
>stealth

>>1560311
and with guns to match!

why can I see global chat but the moment I send a message it crashes? is that just me?

>>1560325
it's got an S3 and two S2s, but if you're the kind of person that strokes off to the F8 and thinks it's badass, you probably aren't into the Herald's superiority

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>>1560311
>>1560325
>>1560331
plus she dummy thicc

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>40 minutes loading cargo
>2 hours tabbed out waiting for server error
all for 200k in contract cargo
>can't log out in landing zone

>>1560331
I stroke off to fat mamas, fighter twinks are not for me. But I don't kinkshame.

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>>1560311
>>1560331
>>1560357
Ok - ok. I'll take it seriously.

Herald has one of the best interiors and is fast. It's guns are lacklustre.
Biggest problem she has is the lack of any SCU of cargo, cant even really bring one in outside of grid. So you cant really loot efficiently either.

So in my opinnion she is a great relay ship - with Cutter being the obvious Pyro ship with the big brother Cutlass and Mommy Corsair being the runners up. Corsair is fat - slow and underarmed for solo play while cutlass is too obviously wrong scale and interior is very barebones (quite utilitarian though).

So herald is the greatest relay ship and instead Cutter is the best pyro ship.

Naturally other manufacturers are out of the question in any serious discussion.

>>1560457
>she
>she
BOOMER ALERT! BOOMER ALERT!

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>>1560464

is the Tana the only thing that will fit the full set of salvaged repeaters (2x S3, 2x S2) as best in slot? it's kinda gay and retarded but I'm being an autist about it and don't want to put S2s in S3 slots for example, so far it's the only ship I've come across that has those specs.

>>1560486
Cutlass

>>1560481
>even posts boomer memes
lmao

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>>1560489

>>1560488
that has 4x S3s, so I'd be sacrificing dps to put the S2 ardores on it, unless I put them on the turret. I usually play solo, so that would be a waste

>>1560491
>circa 2011
You're a grown ass man posting about video games lmao!

>>1560457
>big brother cutlass
>mommy corsair
what does this make the caterpillar, absent father?

>>1560495
You have one of two options anon.
1. You don't think ships should be called feminine pronouns because you are woke clown
2. You don't think ships should be called feminine because you are an undeducated plebian

Seeing how you try your pathetic, shitty trolls every thread specifically getting hung on people who've bought bigger ships- you are clearly a poorfag. So my guess goes to 2. you are uneducated.

As you are juvenile, let it be forgiven as you might not have had time to go through basic schools yet.

>>1560496
Caterpillar is the grandfather who has trouble performing but is hung as hell.

Buccaneer is the zoomer cousin on ritalin

>>1560497
Do boomers know how cringe they sound? Genuine question.

>>1560499
Ok, so I was right. Good to know.

Now my next entertainment will be to guess at which year of school you are, seeing as how you have decent command of language you are probably in high-school already.

>>1560499
So they don't. Good to know. LMAO!

>>1560504
I know introspection is not a big thing on children. But I wonder if you realize what you are actually doing - or I suppose rather, saying.

You know how majority of World of Tanks players are gen X old men with children. Eventually now over the years, their children - and naturally other children have started to play the game with them. So they are kind of the rookies, the ridicule.

Thats you anon, and you confirm it every time you imagine other players as some old people.

Since I can guess your reply - I know you wont get it. But everyone else sure does, and everything you think is embarassing on others playing the game - is on you, since you are playing too or caring enough to post here.

>>1560507
>paragraphs of seething cope
Okay boomer hahahaha!

>>1560508
I was trying to be kind, but your call. I guess you will keep being the joke of the threads.

>>1560510
What's that fatty? Your double chins slap together so loudly I can't hear what you're saying hahahaa!

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we waste so much space on this bullshit every thread

>>1560548
Making schizo boomers and space dads type paraphraphs of concentrated seethe is my god given right!

>>1560565
every time you type people ask you leave the thread

>>1560574
NTA but you had 4 different people telling you to fuck off last thread after your world of tanks balancing suggestion retard.

>>1560579
Except i was one of the people who attacked the World of tanks guy, braindead tourist can't even identify people by their writing

>>1560583
>paragraph schizo who thinks changing his posts to lowercase means we can't see him
lmao ok paragraph boomer schizo lmaooo
Let's put world of tanks balancing in bro hahahah!

>>1560583
why are you pretending to be me?

>>1560590
not the World Tanks guy, im this guy>>1558581

>>1560597
that's literally me though you fucking nigger

>>1560565
You aren't very good at trolling newfriend. You think you are. Lurk moar.

>>1560609
>more circa 2011 memes
Lmao fucking boomertard hahahaha!

>>1560611
Only one seething and coping here seems to be you anon.

>>1560612
>can't stop replying to my posts
>pretending to be other people
>seething
>coping
The reason you're mad all the time is you're old and fat boomer. You a grown ass man arguing with people half your age lmaaooo.

>>1560613
If I keep replying, you will keep seething and playing yourself?
I'd really enjoy it, but its not the purpose of the thread.

>>1560614
You are the one seething because you can't stop replying to me you old faggot lmao.

>>1560617
Yet you cant keep replying to me, or anyone else.

>>1560619
>he says as he replies to another post of mine
HAHAHAHA! I love it. You are the dumbest space boomer of them all world of tanks boomtard.

>>1560548
>vg tier schizos
>vm tier thread activity
Truly the worst of both worlds.

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>>1560665
Best post in this thread

>>1560457
You can fit the 1/8 SCUs cubes in the back. I don't view heavy solo looting in Pyro as a priority because it's too easy to be strafed as all the contracts are at the same POIs.
Average detection range with stock components is 3k, and will be less with the increased ambient signatures while close to the planet's surface.

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>>1560619
>sign tapping
Across 4chan, the recipe is the same. Do not reply to baitfags, do not discuss baitfags, do not acknowledge baitfags.

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>>1560457
>cutlass is too obviously wrong scale
This post about the cutlass lives in my head rent free. The idea that an outsourced pajeet or bugman made it too big and that they stuck with it is incredible.

>>1560739
They COULD fix it.

But they wont.

>>1560712
you can do the bunkers solo or duo, endless loot to put on the crate.

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Wtf will data gameplay consist of? Is it like coordinates of valuable resources where you use computers to "crack" the actual location or something? The fucking blueprints? The players coordinates themselves?
What the hell is the herald and the MSR transmission antennas supposed to do? Go in bunker, attach RF transmitter and upload shit?

>>1560751
Its selling locations of minerals, salvage, rare bunker loot location that you generate with scanning or some shit.

>>1560751
I don't know that we'll ever get data gameplay, nor do I think about it. If it's anything but standing at a terminal pushing interact, you know a beam will be involved.
>>1560747
Yes, you can throw loot in, but the POIs with the contracts are so busy I think the Herald's speed, size, and tiny signature are better than the space minivan.

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>>1560757
would a 1scu box fit in if you glitch it through walls?

And the bunkers are not contract POI afaik, the asteroid bases I mean.

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>>1560766
Nah. It's very much a surveillance truck with a bed. If you could glitch it in, maybe it might fit in the back by the bed but I'm pretty sure no. You have to abandon loot goblin aspirations to achieve Herald enlightenment.

>>1560757
what if the terminal shoots a beam at the player

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>>1560773

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>>1560725
the image people have been looking for

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>>1560766
>>1560773
>>1560783
so, you may be able to fit a 1SCU here if you can somehow glitch it in.

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>>1559714
They're bongs. I trust them to get realistic videogame weapons correctly about as much as I trust the bong MIC to engineer something more modern than the Martini Henry that isn't fucking retarded.

What's the best ship for PvE bounty/merc contracts that can do MRT+ and has room for me to steal guns and components off soft killed ships?

>>1560842
You want smallest feasible or what?
Cutty Black is a popular PvE ship for a reason and can do all this. C1 an option as well
If you want bigger PvE boat, Zeus.
More bigger, Constellation or Corsair.
Cutlass Black is plenty though.

>>1560816
not very comfy in that case anymore, it doesnt have an internal storage right?

>>1560842
avenger titan

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>>1560842
MRT to HRT and VHRT jump in difficulty a bit
MRT, HRT cutty black is probably enough. VHRT will be already kinda annoying to do in Cutty.

But yeah, Cutty or Constellation (Phoenix>rest)
Corsair used to be the one for that but its nerfed now.
Cutty has a nice big van back room where you can fit a lot of stuff and the side doors make it possible to cram more stuff in that you should in as unstable build as 4.0, in 3.22 I used to stack it full of S5 guns from salvaged ships

>>1560868
actually to this, check under the bed - thats where it is in corsair.

>>1560854
>You want smallest feasible or what?
Mainly something good for solo. I hate multicrew bullshit in the current state of the game. Decreases actual gameplay dramatically in exchange for endless fucking around. Multicrew exponentially increases the amount of time you have to spend on shit that isn't actually fun.

Was saving up for a Vanguard but it doesn't have anywhere to secure salvaged components. Playing solo with the Corsair has become pure suffering.

>>1560898
just get the connie, it's the best for all bounties rn

>>1560901
It's fat though

>>1560898
have you considered a Nomad? Space F150 is legit.

>>1560912
Connie Phoenix
Biggest solo guns
Enough cargo space for non-cargo
Tanky Enough
Has a PDT
Has a fighter thats apparently the best kamikaze fighter
From connies its interior is the least shit

Second best
Connie Taurus
Bigger cargo and actually good tractor turret
Interior is quite garbage
No fighter (but the room is decent storage room for your own gear)
Less hp
No PDT

600i
Slightly better interior than connies
Big and bulky
Decent space, especially out of grid

^But these are disgusting ships

Cutlass Black:
Decent guns
Out of scale interior but its drake so it looks good
A lot of space for such a small van
Usable tractor turret but to what end

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>>1560930
it can hold tons in the open bay, it has 3x shields, it's maneuverable, A1 ranked it C tier ahead of actual fighters on his latest list, it has a bed, it has a tractor beam, and it's cheap

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>>1560898
>>1560930
>>1560937
plus the best paint available

>>1560934
Drake fanboys are delusional. The cutlass looks like a bloated 50 year old Midwestern wife and has one of the most soulless interiors in the game.
It's only draws are it being cheap (even then the freelancer isn't far off in uec) and being a decent ship when you strip away all the SOVL and look at it purely by the numbers.

>>1560948
Unfortunately that title goes to the BiS 2950 skins.

>>1560953
The interior finish, as in how it looks IS standard drake.
Its not my fault that the RSI interior (especially of connie but not limited there) looks like shit.

And Cutlass is soulless in the same way as any van is, its just a open fucking box. But its useful due to not having the aforementioned SOVL that takes up space for nothing.

I never said it has the best interior, not by a longshot. But its way better than connie. Not even a competition.

>>1560953
Also never said it looks good from the outside either. Very few ships in Star Citizen actually look good from the outside, its not the worst though.

>>1560956
>available

The Cutlass is hideous insidr and out. Capability and performance wise it sits right where I want my daily driver to, but I hate the Cutlass specifically and there are no good direct competitors to it which is insane and humiliating for CIG. Every 'brand' should have their own Cutlass direct competitor. Fuck you John Crude.

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>>1560964
It's available to me.

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>>1560972
>hating the cutlass interior
only one that feels authentic to me, like a C130 or a CH-53

>>1560991
It's fine desu, far from the worst to be fair. Some ships like the A2/M2/C2 have so much wasted interior volume it's completely insane.

whens the patch supposed to drop next week? beginning of the week or the end of the week?

>>1560972
the cutlass is whatever but the lack of direct competitors is galling. I guess the zues fits that role though

>>1560999
the only competitor to the cutlass is the C1. The Zeus is a shitty meme in terms of combat

I can't tell if it's 4.0 jank or intended pyro gameplay but bounties don't have markers anymore. how are you supposed to find a target outside of fucking sending thema friend request

>>1561045
its jank. servers are cooked right now.

>>1561045
I'm also not sure if the bounties are even in Stanton when I get them.

>>1561045
>>1561095
Been experiencing the same thing. I don't think player bounties are doable in the current state of 4.0 without getting unrealistically lucky.

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>>1560948
Plus you can cart your space whips around

>>1561159
last time i put a cyclone on the nomad it was doable but very sketchy and it eventually blew up my nomad

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I'd like to apologize to the Mule for calling it a pointless cash-grab embarrassment to CIG and the most blatant red flag of this entire scam project; turns out it does have a valuable use after all
https://youtu.be/Acu1MX59Kzg?si=p5A59U4Ez0Xv_zNm

>>1561410
oh, they brought this back?
Time to gigadupe my p6lrs and railguns

>>1561410
oh great 4.0 is going to get wiped

>>1561410
>>1561412
>>1561641
Lol these retards unironically can't do anything right it's nuts
If only people could dupe a shitload of military and stealth parts for me to buy or take since I refuse to engage with the derivative and uninspired looter shooter zones.

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>>1561410
We're running back 3.19 1/8 scu drug duping lads

>dupe a bunch of gear
>works flawlessly
>try to actually play the game and do a mission
>QT shoots me inside the planet and kills me
good thing I duped all my shit

>>1561410
>>1561646

What all can you dupe with this.
Ore? i mean in the smaller box, anything?

Can you dupe the 1scu box and contents?

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>>1561836
>Can you dupe the 1scu box and contents?
I remember trying this back in 3.19, but no, it won't dupe a 1/8 scu box and its contents, only just the box itself. That's why the only money making opportunity with this glitch is duping the small handheld drug boxes instead, or if you're lucky and find attest 1 deposit of Janalite, you can dupe 6 gems at a time.

>>1561848
isn't that still slower than trying to get some Vaughn missions and get some weevil eggs to sell?

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>>1561848
Thanks anon.

>>1561853
You can buy weevil eggs and apparently it crashed the market for them.

>>1561855
So they just created an nearly infinite source of eggs to end the one fun gameplay loop once and for all?

>>1561853
Yes, but back then iirc that method wasn't a thing and the mule duping was both relatively fine for profit and the most fun i've had doing anything group related in the game.

>>1561857
Never did it, but it reminds me of Gta Online in the ps3 days where you would dupe cars to make money. Always fun with friends.

>>1561860
For us, it was the group effort of efficiently unloading the boxes off a mule into an A2 going back and forth while a couple of us spawn new mules, and then fighting randoms at scrapyards in order to sell them. Even though the bug is back, with the introduction of Freight elevators and 4.0 just being unstable altogether, it seems that I won't get to do the same.

>>1561856
Seems like it. But since the price was up at one point, it might be profitable trading good every now and then. SC-trade tools dont show where you can buy it for some reason - but it shows the price is 23k/scu

>>1561848
would this work with the new car that has a cargo grid?

>>1561865
>>1561869
Used to spend time in the PU in the ERT golden days hunting for eggs, but honestly now i dont feel like playing it anymore.

>>1561875
or all ships

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>>1561875
>>1561877
The bug only dupes items attached to a ship/vehicle's item ports, not cargo grids. Item ports, meaning things like ship and component hardpoints, weapon racks. That's why the Mule is used for duping with this exploit, because from my understanding, it's the only vehicle that has item ports that can hold handheld boxes and other small items, and It's also very fast to claim through the ASOP terminals.

I'm aware that duping ship weapons and components has existed onwards from 3.18, but the FPS weapon/small box duping was specifically fixed by CIG in the past because of the money making opportunities.

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>>1561898
There are weapon racks and some sort of trophy racks on some ships, wont those work too for something?

>>1561902
It'll work on any ship that has weapon racks, though I'm not sure about trophy racks, never tried myself.

>>1561898
Does that work for shit like the Hornet ball turret in its special category?

>>1561920
I believe it does, yea.

>>1561925
I don't think I'd call that a bug, more like an exploitable part of the insurance system. If you get soft deathed and someone salvaged the weapons/turrets from your fighter, it would require that insurance claiming brings out a fresh ship with none of those components.

Obviously we could have insurance claims only bring back stock ships - which I think is the plan - and that will change things a lot.

>>1561926
that's the basic insurance plan, they've talked about letting you insure the components for more of a cost, too. add it to the pile of "shit that CIG has talked about" though, until we see actual implementation.

>>1561926
Pretty much agree, but now they are in an awkward position where you can't get value off of salvaging components/weapons because they can be easily duped due to this. But at the same time, loosing your ship can happen due to a variety of bullshit, so they'd have to leave it in for now at the detriment of the salvage gameloop. I can see them fixing the mule duping item ports again, but ship weapons/component duping might be around for a while longer.

>>1561925
Finally, a reason to own a Retaliator Bomber.

>>1561933
I have mixed feelings about the whole thing. On one hand, insurance claiming a ship is basically a non issue and makes death and explosions trivial. I'd like to see it "matter" without being overly punishing at the same time. Something like how when you die, you lose all your FPS gear. Guns and components would have to be more readily available and cheaper for this to work, and obviously we've gone in a different direction. That would could mean stock loadouts could matter significantly more though.

In reality, we're all playing such a buggy piece of shit that anything that punishes death too much is going to suck, and suck a lot.

>>1561928
I agree, and I try not to put stock in any of Chris Roberts and Co. "yeah that'll totally be in the game" statements until they actually arrive. It was funny to see people making recommendations in global chat a few months ago on which quantum drive someone should buy *now* because "in Pyro you'll want that".

>>1561986
> insurance claiming a ship is basically a non issue and makes death and explosions trivial
I agree with most of what you said, but here is the thing: If you're waging in PVP or PVE, being sent back to spawn is punishment enough with our current system. People say it's meaningless but that is only because there is nothing to do in the game. If you are attacking a playerbase, and you die, you are out of combat for quite a while, and in any game that is punishment enough, SC is no different. Imho being out of combat for the 10 minutes it takes you to get back to the location is punishment enough, as a matter of fact, if you or your enemy have anything valuable to defend, being sent back to spawn is a worse punishment possible, because odds are you will not get anything back because you lost the fight, whether it's pve or pvp.

>In reality, we're all playing such a buggy piece of shit that anything that punishes death too much is going to suck, and suck a lot.
Even if there were no bugs, the distances between spawns and combat points are so large that it would be fine the way it is. Being sent to New Babbage mid combat is a worse punishment than the insurance money or the ship upgrade money because in any meaning full setting you are going to have a lot more UEC at stake. (Cargo, wtv)
>That would could mean stock loadouts could matter significantly more though.
If this happens people will just stop upgrading anything except QTdrive, i know i would, it just wouldn't be worth the time or money if you can easily make a mistake or crash into a planet and lose it all. Upgrades would lose all meaning simply because nobody would use them, and stock ships as they are now are already good enough.
>I try not to put stock in any of Chris Roberts and Co. statements until they actually arrive
Same, until it's in the PU and well implemented (not bug, but gameplay wise) it's all talk.

>>1561986
>It was funny to see people making recommendations in global chat a few months ago on which quantum drive someone should buy *now* because "in Pyro you'll want that".
considering i take long and frequent breaks from this game i'm not surprised i missed that, but still funny given the context that pyro came with a full wipe.

Man Pyro isn't even big enough for it to matter. Travel distances and times are still pretty short, and there are still a lot of places to refuel. I was really hoping logistics were going to be a serious challenge in Pyro.

Strongly favoring ships with big quant tanks, efficient drives, effectively mandatory in-flight refueling for operating with combat oriented ships in large parts of the system, etc.

Refuel, repair, and reararm gameplay should be almost mandatory in Pyro. Right now it's just Stanton with rust and bad comms.

The MPUV-T would have been really useful if they didn't fuck up the thruster tuning. It should be able to fly around in 1G with 16SCU for fuck's sake.
They also need to reduce the animation time on the ATLS it is infuriating.

>>1563195
drawn out animations in general are obnoxious in this game. you're getting shot and your character is taking a moment to laboriously drag his fat middle aged ass up the cockpit ladder and stopping to heave a tired sigh at the top before carefully stepping down into the seat.

>>1563218
and to think many animations were sped up from what they used to be before CIG started playing around with FPS shit more. i want to kill myself every time i accidentally touch one of the bunk beds on my taurus and get locked into a three hour long animation of climbing into bed, then another two hours getting back out.

>saltemike: NOOO YOU CANT DUPE ITEMS! YOU HAVE TO DO THE CONTESTED ZONES OR BUY THEM FROM MEEE! STOPPPP!!!
I will always dupe items and high tier shit and give them out for free and saturate the market. Fuck space dads.

>>1563218
Also why the fuck can't I climb up and down a ladder like in every game since 2006? Why do I go the whole way up the ladder in one animation or down the ladder without control. Why is there an animation to walk up to the fucking ladder? Why arent there workable fucking ladders. Fucking dumbass animators and artists run this faggot game.

>>1563324
some ladders like the C2's are proper ladders, but they're kinda the exception

god damn the retarded apes that make this piece of shit game to hell

>>1561898
So many regressions in development that don't make any sense, they ruined the c2 a few patches back by adding some retarded slant and fucking up the gear and ramp alignment with the ground it keeps bouncing around.
All these years and the ships still feel like they are made out of Styrofoam.

I am hoping now that server meshing is out that they start focusing on making the mission system and PVE related content more enjoyable along with quality of life updates like squashing all the server side related issues.
It seems like they are going in favor of low hanging fruit and focusing on simple pvp related aspects without adding anything substantial even to the PVP content.
The flight model at the core of the game is a convoluted mess, I don't like the direction the game's been headed in these past few years.

>>1563397
>server meshing
>out of the way
Retard.

>>1563401
How foolish of him not to realise that after 12 years CIG will simply move the goalposts with the "this isn't REAL server meshing, it's tier 0 static meshing!" cope.

>move out of port tressler and microtech
>enemys start spawning normally and missions work
So Microtech is where everyone is and that's why nothing ever works.

>>1563402
I think the anon meant that the server meshing is barely functional.

Eg. Interdiction fields do not work reliably

>>1563457
It depends on server anon.
Except that pyro never works

Is it ever coming out

>>1563464
Isn't each planet it's own server now?

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What can be done with this? What happens if you tow an NPC ship or an abandoned player ship to your hangar (if you can even do such a thing)?
Also whats the biggest ship type it can pull?

>>1563473
It IS out anon, don't kid yourself. It's a live service game using "alpha" as a cover, similar to Tarkov and every other game that's been taking your money and giving you a product for years.

>>1563631
Off the top of my head, I believe it can either pull up to a hammerhead or pull whatever has less mass than a hammerhead while in space and pull notably lighter ships in a gravitational field. You can do unverified cleanup missions and just pull the ship far enough to clear the contract instead of needing to properly salvage it. Attempting to tow a ship can result in a crime stat and the best way to avoid that is to enter the pilot seat and disable shields IIRC, I think it works on the same logic as approved salvage. There's no practical purpose for it currently since the gameplay loop is unimplemented but the "design intent" is that you can do general NPC towing missions or tow trespassing player ships in exchange for fees.

>>1563631
You can't store the ship and it you land the stolen ship in a non persistent hanger it will disappear eventually. You can however put it into your persistent home hanger and it will stay there forever.

4.0 has to be the worst patch ever. The game is nigh unplayable.

>>1563756
No no, everyone's on Christmas break anon they will fix it all I swear

>>1563789
I don't understand the thought process. Is Chris an idiot? Shit like this will just push new players away. They will see how bad it is and not touch the game ever again. Why not wait till the new year? Chris is actively killing the game

>>1563756
It's pretty clearly labeled PREVIEW in the launcher. 3.23 is still LIVE.

>>1563631
you can salvage it for rmc and cm and the guns etc.

>>1563945
The "Preview" tag means fuck all. Progress is intended to carry over from that build going forward, so for all intents and purposes, 4.0 is live.

I'm starting to understand why jeets target boomers to scam google play cards.

>>1564026
DO NOT REDEEM THE SHIP

>>1564026
SAAR DO NOT REDEEM

>>1564026
You're pretty slow huh?

>>1563813
Aren't they having a free fly event in February? This shit cannot be this broken when that rolls around.

>>1564038
The first freefly of the year runs in May for Invictus.

>>1564048
They had one during valentines last year iirc

>>1564070
You're right, just checked. They didn't for 2023, but I'm going to assume Valentine's Day is now going to be another freely event going forward.

The most wierdly consistent bug for me is that I can pass through the gateway from Stanton to Pyro no problem, but the reverse journey drops me back in Pyro, about 150K km from the gateway. Like 5 out of 6 times it'll drop me in the exact same spot. And I guess it does it for other people because there's always at least a couple ship abandoned nearby.

>>1564194
Be grateful you get dropped out nowhere near the gate.
Less likely to get ganked that way.

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>go to nowhere outpost for trade gods
>no trade goods
>bedlog
>come back in an hour
>massive battle has apparently happened in my absence
>free trade goods spilled out of dead ships everywhere
>also there's a massive pit just behind the outpost I had no idea was there
neat

I have a 2700k and a 1070, I wish I could play this game and poe 2.
Should I just build a new computer so I'm able to?

>>1564305
>I wish I could play this game and poe 2
You have your answer already, mate. Given Jensen your wallet for the new shiny 50 series cards.

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>checkmate
>pvp zone
>find three fuses from an NPC
>get clipped, die, run back in white space suit
>can't aim, can't draw my weapon
>take off everything, put everything back on, aiming and drawing works now for some reason
>can't take out my fuse
>spend five minutes dropping, picking up and trying to place fuses to open a door
>get shot by two cunts as I'm trying to untangle myself from this convoluted mess of bugs
It feels like I'm back in gradeschool trying to play Superman 64 for the first time.
I saved up 12 bucks, I rented the game for the weekend, and I am ACTIVELY FIGHTING THE FUCKING CONTROLS EVERY STEP OF THE WAY

>>1564329
Oh and
>fuses are stored in the grenade slot
Whaaaat the fuck is this
Why is this acceptable.

>>1564305
yes, 12 years is a pretty damn good life for a pc

so is pyro out yet?

>>1564362
No

>>1564366
lmfao

so CIG is going under, right?

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>>1564369
Worst funding year they've ever had, its joever.

is the new quantum travel system in the game yet?

>>1564374
I thought the new graph said that they made more money this year than last year

>>1564379
Yes

>>1564379
>new qt
oh please tell me they copied elite dangerous and let us do free flight so we're not subject to the buggy waypoint system any more.

Ideally there should be free flight options combined with the ability to set autopilot to waypoints. So you can set auto-pilot and then exit the seat for long trips, but use the free flight if the waypoint routes are DUMB or bugged.

>>1564379
no

>>1564422
that's the final goal which is not in yet

>>1564422
>copy from E:D
speaking of which, they should also copy the MFD navigation scheme from E:D. The current system is really annoying

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>>1564362
you are being bamboozled; it is live right now

I obsessively check enlistment dates when posting on and reading Spectrum.

Unironically, if you backed the game in the last 2, maybe 3 years your opinion on the direction of it isn't worth shit.

>>1564532
I backed the game in 2013 and I'd trust someone who is new to give me an impartial take on the game.

>>1564505
>copy pasted assets
>looks worse than no mans sky
This has to be the biggest downgrade in history.

>>1564666
I didn't really notice how bad it was until you pointed it out but they've really went ham placing those mushroom things Oblivion Speedtree style.

>>1564666
oh so you never cared

>>1564668
my LODs are pretty shit because I have a weak card but if you look closely at them they are different. there's probably a ground texture that simply never loaded for me either.

>>1564762
>>1564764
Do you get at least get paid for gargling Chris's hairy ballsack?

>>1564504
feels good to be able to finally use unique armor without worrying about losing it.
Fuck all the no fun allowed niggers complaining about duping

>>1565202
It's funny because it's essentially turned into the item reclaim consoles.
I tried it earlier and you have to pay the cots of the items (via repair) for it to show up on the mule now.
Baffling how something they marked as so complex that it's now an unknown tbd, has been achieved by a fucking BUG.

>>1565230
>so complex that it's now an unknown tbd
>literally just an entitlement check and a special vendor
>maybe a secondary scan of the player's inventory if you want to keep them from having more than x quantity of a given piece of gear at one time
how did they make such a mountain out of a molehill

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>>1564532
I never looked until now
Did they stop giving out numbers?

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>>1564532
based.
post your join date

>>1565307
>>1565314
newfag tourists from plebbit reveal themselves by not realizing you can inspect element and change the number to whatever you like

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>>1565343

Assuming player selling orders/trade would be a thing what ship would be ideal to drag goods through some hostile territory? Do you need something crazy fast/low cargo like a 315p or would a C1 pull it off better? Nothing massive but the more cargo/the faster it is the better.

>>1565451
unironically, polaris

>>1565451
We don't know how the core mechanics of large scale pvp and territory control will work, but i would go with>>1565478 or an Ironclad if it's any good.

My friend is trying hard to shill this game to me, and says I can buy the 45$ Auroa pack and just "earn a new ship like in ELITE"

>>1565552
Buy the Mustang pack.
>says I can buy the 45$ Auroa pack and just "earn a new ship like in ELITE"
1st thing you should do is ask why your friend wants to buy this buggy pos, then if he says just to fuck around with you decide whether you want to buy or not.

>>1565552
he should be paying you to play this buggy mess of a game

>>1565478
Corvettes are immune to QT snare/damp?
>>1565451
If the MSR gets revisited and stops being dogshit (gets actual hull HP and the ability to slave turrets, fixed and gimbal) that might be the one. Top nav speed actually exceeds both the cutlass and the C1 along with the guardian QI which is impressive (only antares/mantis can catch it), despite being ridiculously overpriced.

>>1565584
if you want to outrun snares, the only ships with cargo faster than a Mantis is probably the avenger titan and the 300 series

>>1565588
Yeah but thats low cargo (315p is actually the best here)

>>1565595
if you're worried about being snared, the mantis is the only one that can drag you out of quantum, so it's the only one you need to worry about outrunning if you play paranoid enough.

>>1565604
doesn't the new guardian have a dampener variant?

>>1565609
the guardian qi, scorpius antares and cutlass blue can only prevent you from going to nav mode, it can't drag you out of a qt jump