I'd start by giving Glaceon Snow Warning.
It doesn't need fixing.
>>56144543I'd give Avalugg Trick Room
>>56144557Does Avalugg even have the offensive presence to make use of Trick Room?
This is another fucking Glaceon thread where OP is going to post about his zoophilic fantasies isn't it?
>>56144570https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7BkdARYNAE
>>56144543Stop making every ice type Pokémon a slow defensive tank, it’s a fine type when it’s on something that doesn’t exclusively play off of its weaknesses. Not great, by any means, but certainly better than “competing with bug for worst.”
I would say make Ice resist Grass, but Grass is also kind of a bad type too.
Time to do the impossible:103 HP (-20)57 Attack (-20)119 Special Attack (+20)88 Speed (+30)521 BST -> 531 BSTNew moves:- Power Gem- Alluring Voice- Body Press (Meganium, Tropius, and Raging Bolt have it and considering that Aurorus is a sauropod like they are it makes sense, inb4 patternfaggotry)- Chilling Water- SurfReturning moves:- Rock Polish- Magnet Rise
>>56144543Make it resist WaterMake Water weak to itThis already nerfs one of the best types and buffs one of the worst.Do the same with Bug and Fairy btw
>>56144744Aurorus got done dirty with it's dual typing. Anything with a double weakness should be allowed to have good stats
>>56144720Toss in water as well and it’d be a little less shit. Maybe flying, too. At least then it’d have 4 resistances
>>56144762>Aurorus got done dirty with it's dual typing.Game Freak's gatekeeping of Power Gem certainly doesn't help at all.
>>56144761>Make Water weak to itThen what would be the point of Freeze-Dry?
>>56144762Remove double weaknesses :^)
>>56144797Ice/Electric Aurorus it is then. Makes actual sense unlike the usual Ice/Fairy and Ice/Psychic suggestions considering what causes auroras to appear.
>>56144807If that were the case, I would suggest adding a few more electric type moves into the level up chart, because as it stands, the only electric type move that it gets by level up is thunderwave. I mean, sure it can get discharge by way of egg moves and thunder and thunderbolt through TM, but that really isn’t enough. Maybe toss in something like zap cannon or electro ball.
>>56144543It has good special offensive stats but very bad attacks, I don't think it can be improved
>>56144880This thread is for buffing Ice type Pokemon, not your cumbrain fantasies for Glaceon.
>>56144543Make it resist Water.That's all it fucking needs.
>>56144899I never said anything sexual wtf
I don't know why it doesn't resist flying. Throw a bird or some wind at a glacier, or iceberg, or a big fucking ball of ice with an angry face and compare what happens.
>>56144899It can be both
>>56144807>Ice/Electric AurorusActually, I think that would be interesting. Aurorus could have a solid niche with that typing
Here's a Chappy, just in case!
Forgot the pic :(
>>56144543Put some of them in the route between the first and second gym for fucks sake. Why are they always in the last area?Make more fast offense based blizzard wizards instead of muh slow stronk glacier.
>>56144543Who are you trying to mimic with your autistic spam?Delcattyschizo or some pokegirl faggot?
>>56144543No, Glaceon should get Slush Rush to mirror Leafeon's Chlorophyll.Snow Warning should go to Articuno.
>>56144543Fire back to resisting it
>>56146462Slush Rush to Mirror Leafy would be fine too. Make that her hidden ability. She can have both. And Leafy could get Grassy Surge.
>>56146548>She can have bothNah, Slush Rush is enough. Glaceon is a strong special attacker held back by its horrendous speed stat, making it snow doesn't do anything to fix that, it just railroads Glaceon into being a support mon and it's not suited for that role.Articuno on the other hand would benefit greatly from having Snow Warning, at least it it got back its gen 8 movepool so it could use Aurora Veil and Heal Bell again.
Glaceon should get 95 Speed
>>56147354The problem is that all of the Eeveelutions are working with the same stat spread (525 total, split into a 60, 2 65s, a 95, a 110, and a 130), so the only way to keep that consistent would be to switch the special defense and speed stats, and I’m not sure as 65 special defense Glaceon would be particularly useful.
>>56144557Imagine the bellyrubs
>>56144543>Bring back Hail but give it "Snowscape's" buff's while non ice-types get damaged by Hail damage.
>>56148163Genuinely I don’t understand why they got rid of the chip damage, because just giving it the defense boost and changing nothing else about how it worked before would make it the perfect counterpart for sandstorm.
>>56146844A diverse set of abilities gives more options. Giving her Slush Rush and something gimmicky like Ice Body or Snowcloak would just railroad her into a snow sweeper role. By giving her Slush Rush and Snow Warning you give people the option to choose.Besides, not every mon needs to be designed for peak competitive gameplay. Giving her the ability to be played in multiple ways is more important for a fan favorite than being good at one thing
>>56148657Current game philosophy is moving away from stall tactics and I think they see chip damage as a stall tactic.
>>56144543Make it resist Ground and FlyingThey did what I wanted to do to Hail last gen (+50% defense in Hail, Snow does this)That's it.
>>56148795- Sandstorm does chip damage to mons that aren't rock, ground or Steel type.Why didn't they do away with this then?
>>56149363Three types are immune as opposed to only a single type. There's more counterplay. And besides, there's no guarantee that it won't be reworked like Hail next gen.
>>56144543I'd give Glaceon a fat dick up her ass
>>56144543Bring back hail but keep the benefits of snow
>>56144543Maybe the type chart is half of the story, but I don't understand Gamefreak's current decision to lean back into the Ice Defensive Wall thing again. For fast and frail attackers it seems like business as usual, but I never liked having pokemon rely so heavily on weather conditions, and there's a lot of weather related ice mons with abilities like slush rush, snow cloak, snow warning and the like. It feels like Ice Type itself is trying to revolve around a weather condition, when many Fire, Water, Grass, Steel, Ground, and Rock type pokemon can deal without their helpful weather conditions
>>56150328I mean, that still goes back to the type chart, though, doesn’t it? Four weaknesses, only resisting itself, four types it’s super effective against, and four types resisting it does not lend itself to a sturdy, unmoving glacier of a tank, it lends itself to a speedy, rolling avalanche that sweeps everything in its path. If they want to make big, bulky ice-type tanks, then ice needs at least three more resistances.The biggest problem that it suffers from is that too many ice-types are designed to do the thing that it’s worst at. The fact that the type is so heavily dependent on hail/snow to bring up defense and activate abilities to increase speed or evasiveness is directly a consequence of how the type is balanced, in particular the fact that it can’t actually take a hit, and thus needs to either avoid moves or bring down an attacker first. Better ability variety would be nice, but it wouldn’t change the fundamental fact that the type is defensively inadequate at best, despite most of the Pokémon in the type being designed around defending.
>>56144720Makes more sense for it to resist ground or flying, there's too many earthquake spammers in every gen so it would make ice types like Mamoswine or Frosmoth stand out a bit more
>>56144761I'd agree with you but only for Scald. That way both types can be super effictive against another with Scald and Freeze-dry
Just make ice resist water. Sensible.
>>56151585That would make sense.
I can appreciate what they're trying to do with ice types. Really, I can. But it just isn't working. Ice needs a rework. Or maybe introduce another pseudo ice type. Why not Snow as a type? Leave Ice as is and shift al the defensive Ice types into Snow and give them some good resistances. Snow is actually a very good insulator. Why not give it a Fire resistance, as a start.
>>56144543Just make ice type Pokémon resist fairy type attacks.
>>56153067The reason why is because Ice type doesn’t need to be buffed offensively it’s fine on that end, but it’s horrendous defensively.
>>56153067>game freak buckbreaking fairy>ever
>>56148016That can be solved very easily by frostbite
>>56154348>mentioning frostbiteThread's done for guys.>Verification not required.
Apparently not. There's only one kikepost crying about it so far.
>>56154608Why does the mentioning of Frostbite even trigger that person in the first place?
>>56154627Probably because PLA was more enjoyable than the mainline games it tries to shill for.
>>56144797Make Filter it's HA?
>>56154356Frostbite would be a perfect replacement for freeze tho
>>56154796>replacing snow warning>everTaking away Snow Warning from Aurorus and replacing it with Solid Rock/Filter/Multiscale would do more harm than good desu if not straight up spitting on the Pokemon.
>>56144593>fantasies You haven't seen the SPH-equipped plushie photos yet, didn't you?
>>56156289Rape
>>56156383You forgot to include the Pikachu part
>>56156383Glaceon's been doing to it Eevee for years
Ice type doesn't need fixing, it just needs more mons with 120+ atk/s.atk, 95+ speed and passable movepool. If these conditions are met they usually end up in ubers.
>>56146844>Articuno on the other hand would benefit greatly from having Snow Warning, at least it it got back its gen 8 movepool so it could use Aurora Veil and Heal Bell again.Snow Cloak is better for Cuno, have you seen the carnage it did in VGC?
>>56150328>lean back into the Ice Defensive Wall thing againAll the ice types added in SV are offense-oriented. Snow buff and AV are tools used to enable their setup, not for walling purposes.
>>56152168>I can appreciate what they're trying to do with ice types. Really, I can. But it just isn't working3 out of 4 ice types added in SV were banned from Smogon OU, Articuno performed extremely well in VGC, as did Pao, Bundle and Bax. HDB fixed the SR weakness, Snow+AV makes them extremely bulky and Triple Axel and Freeze-Dry are extremely good attacks. Ice is almost as good as good as it was in Gen 1, where it was the best type after Normal and Psychic.
>>56150328Types are allowed to have their gimmicks. Normal types have large movepools to make up for their lack of SE damage, Grass has healing and status, Poison has, well, poison, Fire has strong attacks with large drawbacks, Electric has speed... nothing wrong about Ice being more strongly affected by weather than most types.
>>56156641Don't forget Loaded Dice Icicle Spear.Ice's only flaw is the bad defensive matchups on the type chart but literally everything else about the type is great. It would be TOO good if it had even one more resistance.
>>56144761>Do the same with Bug and Fairy btwThis one really bugs (pun intended) me. Why did Fairy have to resist what already was the worst offensive type?
Stop dumping all the power budget of an entire type into a single weather conditionFor some reason Water gets to be a good type both in and outside of rain but Ice is snow or bust (or you're an offensive pokemon with stats so cracked it doesn't really matter what your type is as long as you get two good STABs)
>>56148657Maybe they'll add Hail back as a super-snow type of weather like Primordial Sea/Desolate Land in a later generation. If the effect ends when switched out it doesn't damage the rest of your team.
Why am I not surprised? Paradox mons were a mistake, but so are new legendaries and pseudos.
>>56144570It has good atk but Avalanche has negative priority so nope. Ice Hammer would be perfect for it. It would also appreciate Ice Shard since it's literally a giant ice shard itself.
>>56157703>Ice ShardThe Hisuian form had it in Legends Arceus but the small indie company took that away in SV.
>>56157734kek, they thought it would be too OP with Sturdy? It's not like it's so strong it can put a lot of stuff in KO range. Anyways ice seems to be one of the few types without a stat-up move. Even a special counterpart of Dragon Dance (Quiver Dance minus the spdef boost) would be nice.
>>56144543Give Chilly Reception to ice types instead of just the Slowkings.
>>56157830>they thought it would be too OP with SturdySame developers who were shocked that Aegislash was being used as a special attacker.Also the "too OP" argument holds no water considering the powercreep. Game Freak doesn't understand balancing nor does it seem they actually play test what they shit out.
>>56154627Because the freeze status is iconic and just because it's possibly the most haxy thing in the history of pokemon it shouldn't be removed.However, it could be reworked so that it can exist alongside frostbite, like poison and toxic.
>>56157921I like this actually. Introduce frostbite and treat it like burn, while leaving a few moves that can inflict freeze instead. Or maybe if an ice type uses a move that inflicts frostbite it inflicts freeze instead, giving it a niche over water types using ice moves for coverage.
>>56157943>giving it a niche over water types using ice moves for coverage.And buckbreak said water type Pokemon out of Ice Beam barring a select few like Empoleon.
>>56157963Water types based on things that live in warm climates shouldn't learn ice moves, I agree. Just like ice types are banned from learning Scald (with the exception of Crabominable because it's pre-evo learns it -- not like it has any business using that move).
>>56157992>Water types based on things that live in warm climates shouldn't learn ice movesThis.Aside from water/ice types and things like Arceus and Castform, these are the only ones that should keep ice moves:>Kyogre>Suicune>Wailmer line>Piplup line>Popplio lineTake a look at the list of water types -- 90% of them are based on creatures that don't live in cold regions.
>>56158076>90% of them are based on creatures that don't live in cold regions.It's just shitty Water privilege as always.
>>56158076Problem with that is that if you remove ice coverage from most water types their viability plummets. It wouldn't be a slight nerf, they would go down several tiers. Have we forgotten how Electric got fucked in the ass for losing HP Ice?
>>56158142Water types shouldn't be allowed to comfortably beat Grass types. As for dragons, give the ones based on fishes Scale Shot or something.
>>56144543Buff Chilling Water and give it to ice types.
>>56158188Glaceon already has Chilling Water. How would you buff it?
>>5615833275 BP
>>56156641>SVThat only illustrates the point, doesn't it? The gen where Ice-types can shed Ices weaknesses while keeping its strengths is the gen where Ice is finally good.
>>56158347It was kinda decent in Gen 8 with the introduction of HDB and offense-oriented mons like Arctozolt and G-Darm, plus Freeze-Dry getting better distribution.
>>>>56158142>Problem with that is that if you remove ice coverage from most water types their viability plummetsAnd that would be glorious.
>>56158142>if you remove ice coverage from most water types their viability plummetsAnd that's a good thing.
>>56144543I'd just delete Glaceon, the worst-designed Ice type and Eevelution.
>>56157943Even if it was just a few moves that caused frostbite, it'd still be helpful. Ice Beam and Blizzard can even keep freeze, as long as the frostbite moves are available to a lot of Ice types.
>>56159358How can Glaceon be the worst-designed ice type when something like Abomasnow exists. From a competitive and viability standpoint, whoever designed that thing had to be trolling.
>>56159220>>56159336The hivemind has spoken. If there was a valid reason to gut Electric which was already limited in the first place, then that reason also applies to Water.
>>56144543Make them resistant to Normal, fairy and groundBOOM!
>>56158332>>56158344A BP buff to Chilling Water would really help, same with Trailblaze for Flareon
This is the smug smile of something that cannot be deleted
>>56161909Yeek yeek (woop woop) I ain't playin' aroundMake one false move I'll take ya down!
>>56144720ice should resist or be SE against water cause water is OP enough already
>>56164772Resist because Ice is already good enough offensively and it would ruin the purpose of Freeze-Dry if Ice was super effective against Water.
>>56164826I think Ice could still be SE against Water with the condition that snow is active
Glaceon from the latest episode.
Not a big fan of relying even more on snow. I've never even played a weather-dependent team. An Ice type that can still be part of a balanced team would be nice.
>>56166058>Sunny Day>Ice Types become Normal Type>Rain Dance>Ice Types get a 50% Def buff>Hail/Snow>standard buffs apply>Sandstorm>Ice typrs take double damage
give ice a 75% status move that applies frozen
or frostbite
>>56144543Make Ice resist Electric (Ice is less conductive than water) and Poison (Ice cubes can hold poisons), and additionally make Fairy and Water weak to Electric (Fairy is weak to civilization themed types) and Poison (Fish die in oil spills and other pollution) respectfully.
Is this a "suggest buffs for Ice type Pokemon" thread or a Glaceon thread?
Yes
>>56144543>How would you fix the Ice-type?In Gen 3 all you would need to do is remove the nonsensical weakness to Rock types.
Ice just has too many weaknesses. Even the other supposedly frail offensive type, Electric, still has only one weakness and three resists, and most of them are fast enough, unlike Ice.
The pics are more because of sh**n's new modus operandi, where he posts his garbage in threads that are autosaging, probably hoping he won't get banned that way. This heads up is also to BTFO any wimp who was saying he was only after attention, and that ignoring a problem makes it go away. It's a compulsion for him at this point, and anything that aggravates his condition will help accelerate his decline and death, one way or another. Plus, it's nice to cuck him out of his little scraps of satisfaction, just like Cynthia cucked him out of a degree forever.
>>56170443gross
Post a real one then, before I run out of these!
>>56158383>>56156641Adding individually good Ice types doesn't help Ice types. If you made a Bug type version of Gen 8 Zacian Crowned, that wouldn't help Bug any even if Bugian Crowned got banned from Ubers.
>>56157878Good point lmao.
>>56157943>>56157921Freeze is replaced by Frostbite and an Ice type equivalent of WoW/TWave/Toxic is introduced. Non-Ice types can not inflict Freeze, but an Ice type inflicting Frostbite on a Frostbitten Pokemon will Freeze it.
>>56144543Resist water and super-effective against rock. Rock should gain another resistance to compensate, probably electric.
>>56144796>One move fixes all the typingFuck that. Make Ice SE against Water. If Poison is SE against Grass and Ground is SE against Rock, Ice should be SE against Water.Also, I would make Freeze Dry work like this: normal damage against enemies, SE if they are frozen regardless of type. That would make moves like Ice Beam or Blizzard more usable.And finally, increased Accuracy and Freeze chance in Hail terrains. That way Hail settlers have a better chance to counter after losing one turn (if they have to use Hail, of course).
>>56177777>glaceonfag really did just invoke psychic entities used by the cia to fuck my internet and rob my bbw goodra post of those 7s
>>56177781>aurorus and hisuian avalugg lose one of their few resistances What the fuck man.
>>56177777I'll admit that was based, have a cake to celebrate your get
>>56177823Not if Aurorus is an Ice Electric type. Avalugg still fucked tho
>>56178929cute>>56179252Cute>>56180013CUTE!
>>56180695
>>56156665But Fairy is weak to Poison.
>>56144543Either give the typing a better defensive spread, or change the stats of all the bulky slow ice types so they can survive better.And we all know which one of the two is more feasible.
sex with glaceon
>>56185001Chappy saves the day!
>>56184490Only if you're not die Juden
>>56185921I'm not! May I enter the Glussy?
What metric is being used to define Ice types as bad? This gen's most broken mons had Ice types and they absolutely destroy everything, Ice has several good moves for itself, it's the only typing that has access to Aurora veil, the best ability of its type in the gameYou know what typing is worse than Ice? RockRock is awful defensively and for offense it simply lacks good moves (how about another 80%acc move?)It's really funny how much they fucked AvaluggH over by making it a defensive slow mon with two of the worst defensive typings
Is it strange how it's the exact same phrases every time? No, it isn't. It's no coincidence at all.A few powercrept legendaries, pseudos, and paradoxes (which might not make it into the next gen) don't help the stats of the rest of the Ice types. Aurora Veil is just more dependence on weather. Ice moves just keep helping Water get even more busted, which is why people keep talking about removing them from Water. Rock having even more trouble doesn't put Ice at the top any more than Bug does.Is it strange how the problems with Ice and Water are more or less mirrors to the ones with Ice and Ground? No, it isn't. It's no coincidence at all.
>>56186436>It's really funny how much they fucked AvaluggH over by making it a defensive slow mon with two of the worst defensive typingsThere's a difference between a Pokemon being extinct and this.What happened with Hisuian Avalugg was Game Freak going way too far. Game Freak also went way too far with what they did to Aurorus.but really just because a Pokemon is extinct doesn't mean it should be weak, if they have to be weak for some dumb reason then it shouldn't be the shit that Game Freak pulled because that's just spitting on the people who like these Pokemon in spite of this
>>56144880he paws are backwards
Resist fairy. Fairy is already a bullshit enough type. Fire resists it so it's only fair ice does too.
>>56187370Aurorus and Amaura have been revived and they have a habitat in Crown Tundra where they live normally, alongside other former fossils. Wouldn't be surprised to see Hisuian Avalugg hanging out in modern times in some future game.
When I see chappy its time for fappy
>>56189861
>>56190592thanks, now I'm happy
By changing the type chart, which is less than ideal:>Immune to Water>Scald hits for SE damage>Scald no longer has a random chance to burn; always burns if SEWith a modestly distributed move:>50 BP Ice move that sets up Aurora Veil in snow
>>56190834What did rock types do to deserve 100% Scald procs?
>>56190844Drive GF to take Scald off everyone's learnset.
>>56190834>Fire types still immune to it>Ground and Rock types guaranteed burnsI'm all for nerfing scald but that's a fucking stupid way to do it.
>>56190834>Ice goes from resisting water to immuning it (except scald)>Scald burns on SE hits, Scald is super-effective AND a guaranteed burn on Ice/Ground/RockThat's a fucking net nerf to Ice Types you retard, why would people run Scald LESS OFTEN if it's the only Water answer to Ice Types while simultaneously making the burn guaranteed on anything weak to it? It's still a decent coverage move on top of that.
>>56190834Scaled being a guaranteed burn on super effective hits is a middle finger to Mamoswine, Aurorus, Galarian Darmanitan, and Hisuian Avalugg.
Make it resist ground, water and fairy. Make more ice special sweepers. That's it.
>>56190880Calm down faggot. Water Absorb still exists, and Scald is already nerfed by distribution. My main point is Ice could resist Water, and Scald could be a counter to that immunity. For all I care, Scald could be entirely reworked. Post ELO.
>>56186112>>56186112Okay but be careful to not freeze your dick off inside her cool snatch.
>>56192509Thanks, anon. And even if I lose my cock to her freezing folds; I know it will be worth it
>>56158142>If you stop giving them all one of the best coverage moves for absolutely no reason their viability plummetsCool now it can be just like all the other types
>>56193046
>>56158142Stop! Stop! My dick can only get so erect!
>>56158179This. Gastrodon needs to lesrn how to fear grass types properly.
>>56193456neither of these loser groups stole any of the pokemon.
First the Flareon thread, now the Glaceon thread. I get that it can't be posted enough, but you'd think I wouldn't need to post this shit outside of Sylveon threads.
stop lusting for Glaceon's perfect ass
>>56144543Immunity to itself and resistance to Ground and Flying. It'd give it resistance to Water and Grass instead but I feel that steps over Grass's viability too much.
>>56194572You sound like you lust for Glaceon's perfect ass
>>56195222I'd piss on Fairy and have it be resisted by Grass and Ice. Yes it would make Baxcalibur and Weavile stronger than they are now but Fairy has had it too good for far too long for the past 10 years, especially considering that Moonblast is 95 BP while Ice Beam and Thunderbolt were nerfed to 90 BP.If I had the time and knowledge to make a ROM hack, I'd do exactly this amongst other changes people would like such as changing the typings for fossil Pokemon (and other buffs) and reasonable difficulty changes (nothing like the gym leaders, elite four, and champion having legendary & mythical Pokemon because that's just dumb even if the team composition is shit).
>>56144543The type isn't the problem it's that there are no good ones other than like, Abomasnow and even that one eats shit with the weakest fire attack. There isn't one non-legend that has good stats and isn't crippled by a secondary type that quadruples it's weakness. Actually, I'd say there isn't a single Ice pokemon whose second type has any thought behind it at all other than to continue keeping Ice shitty. Salamence, Tyranitar, and Dragonite all have x4 weaknesses but they're still viable because of good stats. Slmost all Ice types are middling shitmon. Ice as a type should be fine, but it's the devs who just refuse to make an effort to redeem it.
>>56172025One of the ways you help a type is by introducing good mons of that type. Take Psychic, a utterly shitty type both offensively and defensively post-gen 1, and overall way worse than ice, but it's carried by the absurd number of legendaries it gets.
>>56186436>What metric is being used to define Ice types as bad?They always mention the defensive profile whilst ignoring everything else the type has going for it.To be fair though you could count the number of ice types with 100+ speed on one hand before SV, which was another major issue.Imagine if offense-oriented types such as fire and electric had no 100+ speed mons, they would be shitty as well.
>>56190834Scald is a problematic move but that's not the way to fix it.For starters it shouldn't have higher chance to burn than most fire moves, so lower the burn proc to 20% at least.Second, it should get the Hydro Steam treatment and have its power increased in sun BUT if you do that 80 BP is too much, so lower it to 70 (same with Steam Eruption, but it should have its power reduced to 100 BP and it can keep the 30% burn proc since it's a signature move and has fewer PP). Finally, make Chilling Water a Mystical Fire clone so it can actually compete with Scald. There is no reason it should have such a low BP.
What the fuck. What helps a type is new moves and mechanics, not some powercrept shit that overshadows the mons you're trying to help.Psychic wasn't helped by some new legendary because it already had a solid one from the start. It fell from the top because of mechanical changes - Special was split into two stats, and Dark and Steel were added. Ghost and Bug also got real moves that could kill Psychics reliably. And despite this fall, it's still a middling type at worst. Nowhere near as many problems as the worst types. No, not because of legendaries, but because despite all the nerfs, a lot of Psychics still have decent stats or speed, along with good enough coverage.
>>56192509So her tail is in her butthole?
>>56144543By not having so many of them be slow as fuck
>>56199364Yeah, so one search returns all these threads!
Welp, obviously I need a lot more sleep.
>>56198859The small indie company just wants to balance the cash grabs they shit out by making one Pokemon borderline unusable in a casual playthrough while another has min-maxed stats with a 3-in-1 ability or is Steel/Dragon with 600 BST.
>>56199397Oh I see! We are in the wrong thread though!
>>56199425Come here you!
>>56199425
>>56144543>>56144543I wonder if simply restoring Blizzard to its original 80% accuracy would be enough to make Ice types more viable.
>>56157992Speaking of Crabominable, if that thing learned Mach Punch and/or Ice Shard it would probably go up a tier or two. That thing has fantastic offensive type, ability, atk and movepool, its issue is it dies before it can do anything.
I think ice is at its best now aside from gen 1 where it was the third best type overall. SR was the thing that fucked the type over so its worst gens were 4 and 5. Gen 6 gave us the improved Defog but it was full of steel and fairy types that did ice's job better and the type had no real niche. Gen 7 gave us A-Tales which was ok but not type-defining. From gen 8 onwards most of the type's issues were fixed so overall it's a mid-tier type now. Grass, bug, rock, normal, psychic and arguably even electric need more help.
What a strange coincidence that these exact same phrases are used by the exact same kike every time! Multiple times in this very thread, in fact!I'm guessing it's because adding powercrept unwanted mons totally helped the slow and wannabe-bulky mons that need a lot of help. Fortunately, the older mons are the ones getting threads that love them, to make the shilling kike cry.
>>56144744>>56144762>>56144860I just realized there can be a held item that swaps HP and Speed. 58 Speed is swapped with 123 HP, and there's no loss since Rock/Ice isn't good for slow Pokemon anyway. Essentially redeems Aurorus (hopefully) by turning it into the fast Rock/Ice Pokemon people apparently want. Game Freak simply needs to stop being a bitch over Power Gem.bonus points if it's obtainable before post game
>>56201588>I'm guessing it's because adding powercrept unwanted mons totally helped the slow and wannabe-bulky mons that need a lot of help.Literally everyone has been arguing for decades that ice's issue is that it was usually given to defensive mons that would rather have another type and that ice lacked the offensive powerhouses that types such as fire, dragon and fighting are full of. Pao, Bundle and G-Darm are certainly not "unwanted" and I don't see how you can make bulky ice types viable unless you minmax the hell out of them like they did with Garganacl.
>>56201708>I don't see how you can make bulky ice types viable unless you minmax the hell out of them like they did with GarganaclGen 4-5 Walrein was actually broken under the right conditions (hail+KO'd opposing weather inducers) and probably the most successful defensive ice type in history.
Right, all those threads about those nugen mons throughout this board's lifespan. Maybe there's even one up right now! It's just about how they were a mistake. No doubt this board's usual samefagging kike can make even more of his bait threads to try and pretend they're loved and totally helped the older, actually cherished mons that needed buffs, but no amount of jewish revisionism will ever be able to change whose threads were on this board this whole time.Naturally, for underaged garbage whose only experience with """gen 1""" is from kikes on jewtube, reading threads that can actually be searched is too much for an underdeveloped brain raised watching filthy jewish videos. Tweaks to mechanics and moves would actually help all Ice types, while making disgusting mons to overshadow them completely never did and never will. Having snow slow down non-Ice mons, or better coverage moves becoming widely available, or simply adding resists, will go a long way towards buffing the mons people wanted buffs for because they're actually cherished and loved enough to think about buffs for.Now, what would really help this board in particular is for frostbite to become available, purely to help bring that shilling kike closer to suicide. It can even be on moves that are only available to Ice types, or switched around where freeze is the one that only Ice types can have.
>>56197810ProTip: the SauceNAO button is your friend
>>56202277I'm just pointing out the fact that it's tail is in it's butthole which makes no sense. Why the fuck would I want sauce for that?
>>56144543By making more ice types with good offensive stats. Ice type was never bad. In fact, it was the third best type in the game in gen 1 and four of the five ice types were competitively viable. Prior to gen 8, Game Freak has been afraid of making ice types with good offensive stats, and the ones that did (Weavile, Mamoswine, Kyurem) had movepool issues for at least a generation. Excluding Kyurem since it had 660/720 BST, Iron Bundle was the first ice type with high special attack at least decent speed since Jynx.Imean, shit, look at how Game Freak did Articuno dirty in gen 2. Its damage output used to be on par with the other two birds. Could you imagine Articuno in gen 4's perma hail if it had kept its original 125 special attack? How about boots Articuno in gen 8 where slower fatmon comps were everywhere? How about boots Articuno in snow, behind aurora veil? Articuno already saw a bit of play in dubs recently, but could you imagine Articuno spamming even stronger blizzards? This bird could've been ridiculous, but it had its winged clipped by the special stat split.
Notice how it was new moves and mechanics that changed how the older 'mons work, and how the only new 'mons that ever came close to helping them were cross-gen evolutions that let them use Eviolite.More importantly, falseflagging and samefagging, oddly enough, both come from the exact same playbook used by the JIDF. The board's resident underaged kike's Current Thing is to pretend he knew the meta for """gen 1""" and hope that by namedropping members of the True 151, he'd be able to avoid the wrath of his betters. Luckily, watching jewtube videos will never be a substitute for actual experience. Articuno AND Lapras were already used as tanks back in the days of Azure Heights, who actually solved the game long before the underage kike should've been aborted, during the days he'll never get to experience, no matter how many jewtube videos he parrots. No, neither Articuno nor Lapras needed his meme format, conveniently with no one to play with, in order to be good.
>>56202284>Why the fuck would I want sauce for that?Because she's sitting on an icicle that's almost as tall as herself
Rate my ice team.
Is Emerald Rogue the open world one? Can't remember
Glaceon genocide NOW
This is the smug smile of something that cannot be genocided.
>>56144543Change the Snow weather condition to drop the Speed stat of all non-Ice Pokemon (Or Pokemon with abilities that make them immune to weather effects) during its duration.Think Ice would skyrocket to S-Tier, or would Snow just get banned?
>>56206646Don't see why snow would need a ban, unless all the Rush abilities are b&, or all the moves that boost your speed or lower the opponent's
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>>56166076I like this. Gives Ice a reason to want any weather, bar Sandstorm. It's a more elegant execution of what they were trying to do with Castform.
>>56208814Is that where all of those are from?!
I'll make a real post later, I promise!
>>56210695Oh, thanks for making a real one, then!
>>56144761>Do the same with Bug and Fairy btwThisBug should be the Underdog type so it being super effective against Dark, Psychic and Fairy would be neat
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Those look really nice to hug! Thanks, anon! I really was running out of these.
>>56148795>It’s a stall tactic to use a weather where only Ice types are immune to the chip damage and is only temporary
his thread nowand just in time for the animation as well
It always was! And always will be!
imagine
To another successful Glaceon thread!
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>>56219553Glaceon is off to celebrate and has invited all its friends to the party.
Thanks for taking good care of it, anon! I really do run out of pics quickly :(
