Anniversary Edition!What is Pokémon Sleep?Pokémon Sleep is a sleep tracking app that utilizes your smartphone and/or the Pokémon Go Plus + device to record data as you sleep. In doing so, you'll be able to meet a variety of Pokémon and fill out your Sleep Style Dex.Be sure to post your Research ID so that you can add and share candy with fellow Anons. We are currently locked at 50 friends.FAQ:>How do Shinies work?If you encounter a shiny Pokémon, you only need to feed it a single Poké Biscuit to befriend it.>What should I spend my diamonds on?Expanding your ingredient pockets, item pockets and Pokémon box. Long term you’ll want to max out ingredient pockets, only get half of max for items and max 100 for Pokémon.>When should I use my items?When you have a good grasp of the game mechanics. You may want to save up Recovery Incenses for event missions.>What should I spend my sleep points on?Poké Biscuits first or if you’re a premium user: Main and Subskill seeds and Great Biscuits.>Can I play this game if there's a lot of noise where I sleep?The game tracks sleep based on motion only; sound has no impact.>A Pokémon I fed got full! Will I have to start from scratch the next time I find one?Nope! Pokémon retain the level of progress they were at the last time you fed them.>How do dream clusters work?The higher your research rank, the more you get. You may want to hold onto them as long as possible.>Official Pageshttps://www.pokemon.com/us/app/pokemon-sleep/https://www.pokemonsleep.net/en/news/>Unofficial Pokémon Sleep Wiki[WARNING] Turbo Cancer-ridden with ads. Use at own risk.https://pks.raenonx.cc/en>Simple Candy Calculatorhttps://candy.blspnm.com**Back up your account by linking it to Google or your Apple ID. If you change phones, or factory reset, your account may be lost otherwise. At the very least copy your Support ID on the first Pokémon Sleep screen (click to reveal Support ID under menu)**Previous: >>56109695
Crit with Ultra Cookies on a 16 pib mon requires another cookie lol
>>56169303Better than requiring Premium + Great + Poke Biscuits, with a chance for it to get full before you give it the final tick. Though honestly I don't see myself using them at all, especially since most single-stagers are very niche and generally more trouble than they're worth.
>>56169303400 diamonds is a whale purchase, surely. Ultra is not even that much better than a non premium daily biscuit, it's not like you're going to use it on a pokemon that's not hungry. Imagine just raw using 3 of them and a poke biscuit on a cramorant. And two normal daily biscuits fed to hungry gets to 18. Is anyone really that desperate for a a single stage mon?This is like legendary hungry only shit, but you get the special biscuits for those
Can someone explain to me what is up with Berry Finding S? Are the other golden subskills shit?
>>56169731It either doubles the amount of berries a pokemon gathers, or is a 50% improvement. It's just the best subskill by farHelping Bonus is also great, and a 100% theoretically perfect mon would have bothThe other gold ones are in a category of like, "nice to have on a team, not inherently bad, but chances are high you'd rather have something that aligns with what that pokemon's purpose is rather than just a general boost"
Here's the new Paldea starter ingredients:>Sprigatito FamilyPotatoes 2x Potatoes 5x / Milk 6xPotatoes 7x / Milk 9x / Ginger 8x>Fuecoco FamilyApples 2xApples 5x / Sausages 4xApples 7x / Sausages 6x / Herbs 5x>Quaxly FamilyBeans 2xBeans 5x / Leeks 2xBeans 7x / Leeks 4x / Oil 6xMeowscarada is the first Pokémon with Potatoes on first slot and becomes the best potato farmer by far. It's also a really good alternative to Blastoise as a milk farmer at 60.Skeledirge will be a much more accessible option for farming apples, and is the best option at level 30 and 2nd best at 60 behind Pinsir. It doesn't excel as a sausage farmer though as compared to Charizard, or even Bewear.Quaquaval is a good option for gathering Leeks and will probably be preferable to Ditto and Dugtrio due to a better helping speed. It doesn't beat Golem as a dedicated beans farmer, and also drops to third behind Tyranitar at level 60.
>>56169769Quaxly family can replace a golem and a dugtrio for Ninja Salad though, the best salad currently for the max 57 potsize.
>>56169810Yeah, it'll probably be a key helper for Ninja Salad.Much like how Victreebel with Tomatoes and Potatoes is a key helper for Greengrass Salads.
>>56169769>no corn>no eggsit's over
>Salads againWelp, time to spam Ingredient Finder and hope for the best.
Post you're berries/meals this week.>BerriesGhost/Psychic/Fire>MealsSaladsThe only time I get ghost is when I don't have an invested Gengar/Banette handy.
Would it be better to switch to a team with the right berries and ingredients even if they aren’t the highest level? Been playing pretty casually but want to go a bit more optimally these weeks to try and get my boy Skeledirge.
>>56170023>berriesnormal/flying/fire>mealsCurry for a second week in a row, thank godI would've rerolled if I got salads or desserts fuck salads and desserts
>>56170023>berriesGrass/Flying/Fire>mealsSaladsI have a great week
>>56170023Initially rolled Rock / Dark / Dragon with curries.I only have the BFS Tyranitar so I re-rolled and got Fire / Ghost / Steel with salads.I've got a good BFS Charizard and BFS Typhlosion, plus a good Gengar so I should be fine. I will need to switch in my Victreebel for important salad ingredients though.
>>56170023>berriesFire/Grass/Ground>MealsCurryI should have a great time this week
>>56170095Obviously it depends on your pokemon and resources but I think that if you don't have a great team for the random berries this week, you should pick like 1 or 2 good mons with the right berries to candy up and otherwise use your strongestIt's probably worth having a variety of pokemon level 30+ so no matter when we're forced to greengrass and what the random berries are you have a team capable of easily hitting master ranks and 8 pokemon spawns early in the weekIt also depends on how long you've been playing, no way you're going to easily candy up something to 30 if you're relatively new, in which case it's just a matter of stop trying to catch up to people who could have like 6 months or more of sleep exp on you
>>56170023>berriesDark/Bug/Ice>mealsCurry/StewButterfree with Magnet Lv 4 and Walrein Lv 3 should keep me well stocked
>>56170222Yeah, especially with the 1.5x skill trigger rate for all Pokémon during this event.
>>56170023>BerriesBug/Ice/Water>MealsSalads
>>56170023>psychic/fire/poison berries + dessertsWish it was curries instead but I cannot complain since I got fire which is my best type by far.Also saved a lot of expand pot + good camp ticket for the first meal of the day, imagine if it had been a crit...
I've got a good Bellsprout with full tomatoes and a good Mr Mime with tomatoes as wellbut Mr Mime seems so fast already, is there any point in investing in Bellsprout?
>tfw I'm almost done with the recipie listjust need to finish salads...
>>56170300notelet
>>56170310I've been stuck on curries for so long.
>>56170023>Dragon/Rock/Ice>CurryTime for Altaria to sweep.
>>56170023>ghost/bug/ground>desserts for 4th week in a row, which I swear they said they improved the odds of not rolling the same thing twice in a rowI don't know why they didn't force water/grass/fire this week for everyone.
Who /365/ here? I'm going to be an even better sleeper, bros!
>Curry + Shit berries>Rerolled into desserts>rerolled just to get shit berries againIs it too much to ask for fucking saladsNone of those had any berries for the teams I can really use.
ZZZoroark
>>56170394Next week, I started first day in the UK but wasn't part of that early beta.
>>56170394This is the first app I have stuck with since day one
>>56170483>410 sleep stylesImpressive, I've only got 380.That's probably on me for still having never visited Snowdrop Tundra.
>>56170483I was wondering why i had less hours of sleep despite being two days shorter than your days logged in.then I forgot there were times I forgot to log in my sleep. i missed out so much.
I've deleted some inactives, please add
>electric berriesVery tempted to yank out my Raikou, though my options generally kinda suck for electric outside of my shiny boys
>>56170763POWER>the raichu just keep hitting procs for 5k at a time
Had two people go into comas on me3980-1931-4595
>>56170934for this general, probably call those comas "forever sleepys"
>>56170763The ideal Raikou team has Raichu, Ampharos, Jolteon, and Dedenne. They're the only fully evolved electric types in the game so far, and all need BFS for Helper Boost to work best.The 1.5x main skill trigger rate should help make it work better than usual, although in a cursory analysis I did the other week it looked like a team of four BFS Raichu with an E4E maxed Wiggly would actually perform better.That may change when more electric types are introduced.
>>56170483Damn, anon, you sleep an average of nine and a half hours? Pretty impressive. Mine is only 7 and a half.
For those who use the Raenonx site, the guy is giving out free premium access for 72h, just add /account/auto-grant at the end of the URL for the site.I recommend doing this as the site has qute a few features that are premium only but are really useful. For example, I used the auto team maker to determine which team I should use this week. Turns out that thanks to me rolling Leppas, I will be able to use my Entei this week. It also has an option to toggle all the mons in your box to their level 50 evolved forms, which really helps determining which mons are the best for long-term investment. I wouldn't pay for any of these features, but I'll gladly use them for free, and thanks to it, I already know which mons I'll use in the future, so even more reason to not pay.
>>56171093Ah, quick tip, if you're using the site to check mon strenght for the future, be sure to remove the 1.5x skill trigger rate from the settings (cog icon on the top right), otherwise it will overvalue skill mons.
>>56170977Anon, I know how the game works.I also don't care about hyper minmax.
got a few slots free4135-6168-1159
>>56171065That's right, I usually average around 9 to 10 hours. The weekend depends on my mood usually longer Even before Pokémon Sleep I averaged around 10 hours a day, but most of the time I end up lazing in bed for a few hours.only exception is when I need to work in the office, usually I work from home
>>56171150I just ignore xersplaining anon. Never once given me information I didn't know or asked for.
Oh I'm definitely feeling the 1.5x skill trigger rate, my max trigger Garde is going NUTSMight just throw three berry specialists Garde and a Vaporeon on the team for meals this week
>>56171127what should I set this then?
>>56171629From what I recall, setting to optimistic basically assumes the skill triggers at the start of the day (meaning your mon stays at a consistently higher energy rate) and conservative assumes the triggers are spread out during the day.
Had to remove some inactives that hadn't been on in months
>>56171093what's the use for the premium features?I've read on the previous thread that the site overvalues skill mons and doesn't really take into account certain stuff like Absol with low capacityHow do you even know what will be worth investing like that?
THIS FUCKING GAMEI'M MISSING ONE (1) MILK FOR MY DISHWHAT DOES BLASTOISE DO? YEAH GIVE ME 20 MORE CACAO THANK YOU VERY MUCH
>>56171979Don’t be rude he’s doing his best
Rank ups soon. Plus new skill levels.
>>56172043was gonna cash in my candies for the new mon but whew.
>>56172043Ingredient pokemon at lvl 60 are going to be insane. Going to find out why Inventory L are vital
>>56172043>Helper Pokémon max level 60>Research max rank 60>Recipes max level 60>Ingredient storage max capacity 700>Ingredient Magnet S max skill level 7>Cooking Power-Up S max skill level 7That's the good shit, looking more forward to early August now.>Extra Helpful S max skill level 7And this one's just whatever Also the news graphic shows the Pokémon storage box despite the fact it's not boosted at all. It's still 1000, and that's still probably more than anyone will need at this point.
>>56172080For me, I'm looking forward to my BFS Raichu finally gathering eggs, my BFS Victreebel being able to gather Leeks, my BFS Bewear going into corn overdrive, and my Shiny Helping Bonus max skill trigger rate Wigglytuff gathering cacao.
>>56172043I can't wait to start gathering Slowpoke Tails on the regular!
>>56171967From what I understand, the site used to assume you simply always collected the productions immediately as they triggered. This led to the problems you cited, as skill mons (especially something like Golduck) are directly impacted by how often you collect. The site is constantly being updated to better reflect those things. iirc you can now set your collection frequency, which will impact directly on the inventory of mons and skill procs.
>>56172043>Current values for lv6 skills (& conservative estimate @ lv7)Ingredient Magnet S: 21 Ingredients (> 25)Extra Helpful S: 10 Helps (> 11)Cooking Power-Up S: 27 Pot Space (> 33)Increases in main skill levels mostly seem to provide a stable % increase on each subsequent upgrade, so I'm not expecting anything too crazy. Extra Helpful continues to be underwhelming linear with its skill level increases.
>>56172043Hell yeah.Kind of hoping one of the announcements will just be a massive dump of new Alarm sounds. The two that exist are kind of..grating.
i got 300 diamonds today
>>56172351You will get everything listed in the Dream Gift list so long as you check it everyday for the next 2 weeks, so you'll end up with 500 Diamonds total.
>>56172084>cooking skill level up>ingredient bag level up>level 60 ingredient unlockmeal playstyle is about to be even more OP
>>56170394In awe of your highest power.Missed a few days if sleep here and there. Also very often had the app crash on me or failed to charge phone and it died then had to enter sleep time in manually which doesn't track. If I evolved some mons I'd be over 100 befriended easily but some lines like cubone, magnemite or diglett refuse to give me good ones to evolve.
Hit 300 days. I’ve missed a few logs here and there when traveling or work got too busy, but I think this is the longest I’ve kept with a new habit in years. I’m not sure my sleep quality is much better than when I started. I would say I’m more mindful about getting enough hours and going to bed/waking up consistently though. I finally hit research rank 55 last week and got my first level 55 mon last month so I’m a little bummed the caps increasing so soon, but excited to get at level 60 ingredients.
>>56172043>extra helpful SI look forward to how silly lv7 is. I bet like x13 or some nonsense.Ingredient finder probably jumps to like 27 to 30.>>56170394I think I accidentally missed a couple days somewhere. I know I've accidentally fallen asleep without starting sleep and had to manually add it in.
>>56172783And forgot my screenshot.
>main skill downwhen are mints coming...
I used my ultra ball on a quaxly, ama
>>56173207did it crit?
mints when
>>56170394Doing ok, the Highest-ever Drowsy Power is gonna skyrocket at the end of next week if all goes to plan.
>>56173304thankfully no. I had two hungry mons and none of the 3 paldea starters showed up were. So fuckers got an ultra ball
>>56173576this is no where near a bad enough nature to mints when post
Croc is bad but duck seems good.
>>56173770Why do they have to do my boy so dirty with this actually shit skill?
>>56173772Yeah charge strength is super uninteresting
>>56173772Charge Energy is fine if it actually activates enough to let the pokemon go to sleep with 150% energy. Though admittedly that ends up being much better on berry types, since they'll take advantage of sneaky snacking better. The real issue is that they really gave Fuecoco APPLES as a base ingredient. Unless the final form has an insane base ingredient gathering rate, it will end up being one of the worst ingredient gatherers in terms of sheer power-per-help.Really pretty strange that Fuecoco really doesn't have anything unique going for it. Sprigatito starts with potatoes and is one of the few other pokemon capable of gathering milk. Quaxly is one of the few pokemon capable of gathering leeks (even though its final form will end up slightly redundant on Lapis). But then Fuecoco has all of the most common ingredients and it doesn't even gather them in very competitive quantities.
>>56173901it looks like the skill trigger rate may be what fuecoco has going for it
>sprig with amazing subskills>both ingredient finders, berry finder, skill triggers>ingredient down naturewhere are mints
First Fuecoco already seems pretty goodOr is it trash because no BFS?
>>56173901Fuecoco is the first ingredient specialist for apples, and some of the apple gatherers are more mid-late stuff like Ralts or Absol, so it's mostly an inaccessible ingredient if not for FuecocoApples are also used pretty often on some lower recipes, not all of the game is dishes for your 55 cooking pot, there's always some new people starting out
>sprigatito with amazing subskills>both ingredient finders, berry finder, skill triggers>ingredient up nature>shiny>MaleInto candy you go.
Did you guys have to use any of the incense to get the Paldean Starters?
>>56174428my first night i got 3 with balanced sleep, 2 were non incense
>>56174428I got two crocs and a duck.
>>56174434>>56174444Damn, I guess I’m just unlucky. Did you guys have to be at any certain level to start seeing them?
>>56174406shit taste male meowscarada is superior
>>56174450I was a short bit before M1 for the crocs and the duck.
>>56174503Ah I see, I guess I’ll keep trucking along then. Thanks for the info.
>>56174450They show up at Great 1 in greengrass. I was at U4 for my 3 (2 non incense)
>>56174428I did use a fuecoco incense.
Surprisingly okay.I wish they'd stop adding sausage gatherers though.
>>56174428I found 2 fuecoco and 2 sprigatito (and a vulpix!), used a sprig incense.
>>56174545I'm surprised they gave it fiery herb considering gengar is a ghost type ingredient pokemon with fiery herb as well
>>56174428I only got a single Sprig with the incense, and it was a dozing night no less.
Is this Sprig I got from incense good enough to fall back on if I don't get a better one this week? I never saw Cramorant or Comfey off incense so I'm not expecting good things this time.For an ingredient gatherer he looks like he'd benefit especially from Skill Trigger given that main skill. And I'm guessing no ingredients is a shame. But this guy has good helping speed and no other detractors + catmilk
>>56174896excluding bfs ones, that's good enough to run
>>56174349Actually it's fantastic.Give it a subskill seed at 25 and that thing is going to be shitting out apples at level 30.At 50, it sorta fixes itself a bit by letting itself recover its own energy more often too.
>>56174428Greengrass can only spawn 1/2/4 star sleep styles for the Paldean starters right now.You're going to have to go to Cyan Beach, Taupe Hollow, or Lapis Lakeside to find their 3 star sleep styles, so I'm saving my incenses for those islands.I had Sprigatito and Fuecoco this morning, no Quaxly but their spawns seem generous.
this is my third shiny larvitarENOUGH
>>56174917Cool, thanks anon
>>56174406Imagine being this autistic
Tried for a Sprigatito, but it got full before I could give it my Daily. Instead the Daily went to this Fuecoco and crit. Unfortunately it's thoroughly underwhelming.
Probably the first and last time I pick up a Heracross. It's so hard to get a decent build for and it's not even worth it if it actually had a good set since you need to dump so many skill seeds into it.
>>56176021>Inventory Up L>Skill Trigger M>BFS>Speed of Help^^YES>Ingredient FindingvvFUCKThe faster speed will outweigh the lower ingredient finding, correct? Could use an apple gatherer eventually.
Third day update just dropped>Bedtime rewards increase>Some of the rewards you can get by sticking to your bedtime will increase.>Sleep research rewards increase>The amount of research EXP and Dream Shards you can get from sleep research will increase slightly.>Note: Adjustments will focus mainly on sleep styles that require a low amount of Drowsy Power>Rewards when you have reached the max area bonus>If you've reached the max area bonus, your 5% area bonus increase will be automatically divided and distributed across other areas.So bedtime rewards will be a little better than they currently are. Maybe they'll have a streak system or something?A catch-up mechanic for later joiners to help speed up the early game is good, too.Area bonus not going to waste because you had to go to Greengrass for an event week is also really good, I've lost a few percent (maybe 15-20%) to that.
>>56176265that sleep research increase thing, you think it'll be used to help people to not take "naps"that area thing is cool. now i don't have to use a travel ticket to move that 5%
>>56176287The phrasing of it being equally divided across other areas suggests it won't go to other max areas.I've got both Greengrass and Cyan Beach at 60% now, so if I were to stay at Greengrass, that's probably 5% divided across Taupe Hollow, Snowdrop Tundra, and Lapis Lakeside.I don't know if they'll cleanly divide it like 1.333% (5/3), or round it to either 1% or 2%, or randomly give two maps 2% and one map 1%, who knows.Rounding would mean an amount being lost or possibly gained, depending on how they handle it.
>>56176265The bonus % would have been great earlier on since I've maxed greengrass for a few events. I have beach maxed so I won't visit again until all areas are maxed. Cave is 55% and I'm between 20 or 30 for both tundra and lake. I'm guessing they will increase dream shards of 1 star styles because it sucks to get 20 from one mon and 3k from another. Early on dream shards were a bottleneck and honestly stayed that way until level 55 where it converts.Good changes imo.
>>56176080It takes Helping Bonus, Helping Speed M, Helping Speed S, and a helping speed nature to match the ingredient output of solely Ingredient Finder M, so not really. But if you focus on it being mainly a berry farmer substitute instead of a dedicated ingredient farmer, it can work once it gets to level 50. That is a pretty long way to invest for a new pokemon though. I'd consider waiting for a better one.
>>56170394I'm a month off.
>>56170394Let's not miss a day, lad.
Is EXP boost a waste if you already have a lot of candies?
>>56176911It's fine for the early levels. And considering that level 60 is unlocking relatively soon, no reason not to take advantage of it. You'll need at least 900 candies to get that Swablu to 50. So that's probably at least 1,300 total to get it to 60 and evolved.
if that anon who wanted to reset their sleep points back to factors of 100 only is around, I got a 20 point sleep from 1 hour, 43 minutes of sleep. I'd post a screenie, but I put my phone back to sleep. I also got an 18 pointer last week, and I'd have to check the screenshot to verify, but I think it was 1 hour 37 minutes.
i hereby decree that energy down natures are shit and not worth using
>>56178778If the Pokémon has Energy Recovery Bonus (or a team member does) it cancels out the penalty.I have a potentially good Entei that suffers energy down nature, but a BFS Vulpix with Energy Recovery Bonus on it.
Got another one this morning. Called it Ux.This game is rigged.
>>56178876needing a gold subskill to somewhat nullify it is part of the reason why the decree has been issued
I kinda wanna go for the premium passit's a bit expensive but I feel the bonuses over time are kinda good
>>56179136It's only like 5-10 a month, that's no biggie. I have it.
I haven't used my premium trial, any particular event I should save it for?
>>56179410You should save up points to buy empty the premium shop twice. If you got that many points wait just before shop refresh and use the trial.
No ing finding is a shame but surely all of this speed helps make up for it right?
>two Quaxly todayI guess I really was just unlucky the past few days.
what's the point of using incenses if the spawns are already appearing?like, why should I use my quaxly incenses if I sleep and 2 quaxly show up already?
>>56179614you could save them and use them in the other areas they appear in after this week.
>shiny MeowthActually could have been decent, though using a Persian in the first place is so far down on the list of Normal types.
>>56179669You save that incense for the Suicunne event. Water Pokémon will give you more mane if it’s the same as the other two beast events.
>>56179614You should save them for next week anyway for the extra candy bonus on pokemon that show up
>>56179443Depends what its base ingredient finding rate ends up being, but generally having only super help speed doesn't feel great. A lot of the time you'll just end up with stacks of berries, making them very unreliable as an ingredient farmer.
>>56179614They're common now, but they won't be common in the future.Also, you cannot enter 3 star Paldea starter sleep styles on Greengrass.For that reason, you want to save the incenses for Cyan Beach, Taupe Hollow, Lapis Lakeside, and use them there when you have a high Drowsy Power for a good chance of getting the 3 star sleep.Like >>56179769 says you should also save them for the Suicune event. More spawns is more mane samples, even more if water.
>>56180237Mobile games tend to distribute old items like candy once they add new ones.
>>56180338We haven't had any update to the incense rewards and they don't normally reward pokemon incenses outside of introductory events either. Also I've never heard of games "handing out old items like candy" unless the game is somehow focused around items and its development is centered around massive powercreep.
I wish you could hold onto pot size increases, but I guess it would be too broken in general but especially on sundays. I need another increase of 6 to fill out the last recipe I need, and if I don't get that to happen before dinner I guess I'm just forgoing lunch.
>>56180464I mean it sounds like you can probably just cook that last recipe on Sunday, if you don't get the increase you need during the week.
>>56180471then I gotta wait 5 whole days when I could do it today and not care
>>56180493Whatever, if you cook dinner at the earliest opportunity and check your skill 'mon plenty of times before bedtime, good chance you'll get another proc after waking and get to cook a big enough breakfast.
Decent shiny duckie?
>>56180749Very decent, I'd use it honestly.
Day 4 update is here.The big one is that coming in the early August update, skill specialists will now "bank up to two skill triggers".This gives Vaporeon a huge advantage over Blastoise as an Ingredient Magnet S user, for example, and is also a huge, huge buff to stuff like Golduck, Espeon, and Ampharos.https://www.pokemonsleep.net/en/news/313536313637303631383531303738363537/>■ Adjustment that allows helper Pokémon with the Skills specialty to bank main skill uses>Currently, for all helper Pokémon, a main skill will not trigger again until it has been used once.After this adjustment, Pokémon with the Skills specialty will be able to bank up to two uses of their main skill.>Note: After this adjustment, when you tap on a Pokémon with a magnifying glass over its head on the home screen, if the Pokémon has the Skills specialty, it will sometimes use its main skill twice at one time.>Pokémon that don’t have the Skills specialty can only bank one use of their main skills.>You can see your helper Pokémon’s specialty in the upper right of the Pokémon’s details screen (from the home screen, tap Pokémon, then Pokémon Box, then on an individual Pokémon).>■ Adjustment to game function when you edit your team>After the adjustment, whenever you change which Pokémon are on your team—even if you only change one Pokémon—any banked main skills that are ready to be used for any of the Pokémon on your team will be canceled.>We are making this adjustment to prepare for a wide variety of main skills that we plan to implement in the future.>■ Addition of three-star sleep styles to the sleep styles that can be discovered on Greengrass Isle>We plan to add some three-star Pokémon sleep styles to the sleep styles that can be seen during sleep research on Greengrass Isle.>■ Increase to Strength gains from certain dishes>The Strength gains from some dishes that don’t require many ingredients will be increased slightly.
>>56180790that's fucking awesome. waking up to my skill mons is gonna be more awesome.now i'm gonna go get on my phone and theorycraft the rest of the night.
>>56180790That's a nice way to give skill pokemon a bit of an edge. The most obvious buff is going to go to E4E users, with everyone else falling pretty far behind. Getting an extra Dream Shard Magnet activation sounds nice though.
Think he looks good?
>>56180790They REALLY want skillmon to be better.It also feels like they're giving up on making islands worth going to with 3 star sleeps on greengrass and the new area bonus spread if your current island is maxed.
>>56180790this is great and really buffs leafeon, imagine getting two energizing cheers first thing in the morning
>>56180790wake up to dedenne giving me 20% chance on meals crits. nice
my espeon just got slightly better with the next update
>>56180918Above average, but just barely. Pokemon REALLY want those M skills and I wouldn't waste skill seeds when you can just keep rolling for better ones. Also even with the recent buffs to bean recipes, you'd probably still want anything other than beans.
weird, my gardevoir had a magnifying glass but didn't do anything but bow when I tapped it. No candy, skill trigger, or ingredients/berries.
I'm actually a bit surprised. My Dragonite doesn't have any Ingredient Finder yet, but it finds plenty of ingredients. It does have Helping Speed M and help speed nature, but there aren't super long stretches without ingredients like some of my other Pokemon.>>56181690Are you sure it didn't just dump a berry in the bushes? Drops often get hidden by the scenery.
>>56181916pretty sure, it was standing in the top left clearing near snorlax
>>56181145Question is if the skill triggers go to the same Pokémon, or two different Pokémon.Same for Extra Helpful S.The whole skill banking thing gives me an idea for a new subskill.Basically "Skill Bank S", gives +1 to skill bank.We've got 3 more announcements left this week. I'm expecting one of them will be for a new island or sleepdex goal with cooking pot increase, or something.One of the announcements might have something to do with subskills, main skills, or natures. Really hoping for nature mints still.I'm also wondering if they'll increase the level limit on the Go Plus sleeping cap Pikachu, mine has been at 18 for months.
>>56182552Seems pretty clear that it's 2 separate activations rather than the trigger and target being duplicated somehow. They also mentioned that changing your team at all before claiming activations would result in nullifying all triggers for your active team, so no trying to hold onto energy triggers while you swap out pokemon.They already announced research level increases and some main skill level increases a couple days ago, so I'm not expecting anything further on that front. We'll definitely hear about a new island, sleepdex goal, and cooking pot increase since those have always been linked together. They might not be due at the beginning on August though, which is when they mentioned the previous 3 updates would be implemented. I'm thinking they're going to announce the Pokemon "buddy" rewards that they had been talking about. Some sort of reward system for spending time with individual pokemon.
First sprigatito and I think I'm already done searching
>>56183256Shit forgot to show nature, it's brave (speed up exp down)
>>56183256is it female?If not, you're not done searching yet.
>get a shiny>he’s actually good
Up and coming sleeper looking for research and candy, thank.
3 more days… 3 more chances for them announce mints.
>>56183256having all three helping subskills is theoretically too many, also no bfs
You wouldn’t believe how little ingredients this fucker collects.
Probably usable, right?
>>56183918I'd be happy with it but wait til after the event in case you find a better one
>>56183930Yeah, I will. I only have one of each so far and that one is the best
>Quaxly and Fuecoco today were both adamantTh-thanks.
>>56183918Barely usable, but not worth much investment I'd say. Ingredient Finder tends to be VERY important unless you have BFS.It's got the full ingredient spread though, but I'm not so sure if you'd actually want that for Sprigatito. I'm thinking you may not want Ginger as much due to ease of access on Snowdrop. Walrein, Tyranitar, Houndoom, and Kangaskhan are all able to get Gingers there
>>56183820Same. I got a charizard with the same subskills and nature. Barely anything so I don’t really believe in anyone or sites about what’s truly needed.
>only need shiny sprigatito to get the three paldea starters shinyneat
Close...
>>56184669I was averaging 1 shiny every week during 2023, in 2024, I've gotten 2 and they were both in january. did you steal my luck you motherfucker
Well i think i found the weed i'll be sticking with
an ingredient mon with BFS is usually desired or is it better to focus on ingredients better?like gengar, it doesn't output as many ingredients as a charizard for example, so BFS on gengar doesn't seem THAT bad, but for Charizard it might not be as beneficial if you want ingredients exclusively?
>>56185490Gengar is fast so the ingredient rate is balanced by that. BFS makes it so the inventory fills faster.So you want max ingredient finding so your mon doesn’t stay out for long so you can swap it out for a berry mon again.If you check your game regularly and have one inventory subskill on top of two evolutions that also increase inventory size then it’s actually good. Otherwise it’s a hinderance, especially for some mons like Absol.
>>56185490It's generally better to have high Ingredient Finding over BFS. If you're running an ingredient pokemon, you really do want it to get ingredients over anything else. Otherwise, you would just be better off running a berry pokemon. The main thing that BFS does is smooth out how much power it provides on paper. But now with level 60 coming, you should want more inventory space available to be filled with those 8+ ingredient activations over a handful of berries.
>>56185490Ingredient specialists with BFS are perfectly viable and good options for a balanced gathering of ingredients and berries.They're good to run when you're not in need of ingredients, when you're running teams of high level 30 Pokémon you start to exceed and outpace your base cooking capacity.On the opposite end, getting a mono-ingredient specialist with max ingredient finder rate can be so good at its job, that it can run for a day and keep you well stocked for multiple meals, letting you exchange it for another such specialist.Part of the issue with this design is it favours going to sleep with berry specialists, which can leave your ingredient specialists falling behind on sleep EXP.
>>56182858Yeah, they announced that whole "rewards for more hours spent sleeping together" thing back in February iirc, I've been curious about that too.There's two other major things I've been wondering about possible future upgrades, ones that would drastically improve your strength gathering.First would be expanding your team to 6 helpers. Cut and dry, maybe as a sleep dex goals reward.Second would be the inclusion of "Rainbow" subskills (keeping with how achievement badges go bronze -> silver -> gold -> rainbow).Rainbow subskills can't be gained randomly on newly befriended Pokémon, and are upgrades to Gold subskills that may require a special subskill seed.Effects would be things like:>Berry Finding M: +2 to berry gathering>Helping Bonus+: 10% helping speed bonus to whole team>Sleep EXP Bonus+: 21% Sleep EXP gains>Energy Recovery Bonus+: 21% Energy Recovery gains>Research EXP Bonus+: 12% Research EXP gains>Dream Shard Bonus+: 12% Dream Shard gains>Skill Level Up L: Boosts Pokémon's main skill by 3Pokémon with a very high friendship level (maybe 20+) have a chance to receive a rainbow subskill instead of gold.
Small announcement this time.Still nice.
>>56186054>small announcementThis has to mean that mints are announced on Sunday, right? To make it seem like an even bigger deal than it already is.Right?
>>56186026Personally I’d like to see an eviolite like item or a “skin” that allows you to use pre evolved Pokémon with their evolved stats. So if you like flaffy more than ampharos (random example) you can evolve the Pokémon but keep its previous appearance. Probably won’t happen but it’d be nice.
>>56186054Yeah, pretty small considering the others this week.Still, a mechanic that helps to zero-in on the fewer harder to find sleep styles is welcome.Even a year in, I've a lot of gaps in my sleep style dex.>>56186100Due to how team composition is important for Helper Boost teams, I don't see them doing this.Having access to a Pikachu with theoretically identical performance to a Raichu with equal spreads would be too good, and it probably bypasses the evolution costs and requirements.
I suppose it could have been worse than what I got so far. At least we can get everything.
>>56186143>and it probably bypasses the evolution costs and requirementsif you had to evolve the pokemon before you can "skin" it to the preevolution, it could workit might get confusing if you have a, ie, floragato with a dark berry, though. Might still be doable.
>>56186054it took me till wednesday to realise that the v240715 addhs from the datamine was the haipā sabure/ハイパーサブレ i think the next one is a bigger update, as it is marked as the first anniversary day, however a sneak preview of the new area will definitely happen as well in the coming days.
>>56186100I would love it. There are several NFE mons I'd rather use because they're just too cute when they're asleep. But nope, we gotta see the likes of Charizard just because.
is it worth it to aim for the "give 20 biscuits" mission for the 10k?
>>5618729010k is a lot but for 20 bisuits?idk. feels like one of those baits for whales.i'd say if you're already gonna try to get the new mons, go for it. use the shards to level the one you like.
A skin to keep your dudes smol and cute would be unfathomably based, but it's not happening. Maybe for the third year birthday as a paid item if the game hasn't EoSed and they need to cash in on paypiggies.
>>56187290Isn't it 15?You are getting half that amount just from your Daily Biscuits. Also these missions last until the end of next week, so you barely have to feed any extra biscuits to meet the mission requirements.
>>56186054I wonder if they're doing that because they plan to release a new island around that time
:(
Looks like most of the numbers are settled for Fuecoco and Sprigatito lines, but not Quaxly’s yet.Not only does Fuecoco end up getting a WORSE berry when it turns into Skeledirge, but it’s also not particularly fast like Gengar to compensate. It does unsurprisingly however, get the highest ingredient finding rate of the bunch, nearing almost 50% at max value (S, M, & Nature). So it could easily flood you with however many apples you want. Its skill trigger rate is also rather high (~6%; maybe 5 triggers/day), which I guess is supposed to “balance out” its unimpressive helping speed.Sprigatito seems to be a middle-ground, with decent ingredient-gathering rate, but pretty standard skill trigger rate (~2%; maybe 1-2 triggers a day). It does however, have access to probably the most useful set of ingredients and a strong berry.They seem to still be figuring out Quaxly’s numbers, but it seems to me that it may have the worst ingredient rate out of the trio since it can grab Leeks at 30. Its berry also gets worse when it evolves, and it’s unlikely that its skill trigger rate will be that high either, but you’ll get a good chunk of points just from its skill leveling up by being a 3-stage evolution.
>>56188190that's not too bad then, once there's a ghost island it'll be the only ghost to get apples. Considering the types left are poison, ghost, dragon, steel, electric and bug, there's only one bug ingredient and none of those other types currently get apples. And self heal at a high rate is seriously good.So just get one with all apples and it'll be pretty good.There should really be a bonus for matching the berry type of an island, if there isn't one yet. More than just a double berry power.
yeah i definitely recommend having an ingredient pokemon only gathering a single ingredient that has the worst power in the game
>>56188940who gives a shit about power, do you even play the game? You need apples to make one of the best desserts and you need 20 of them. Why would you waste your time with fiery herb (gengar does it better) or sausage (LOL)
Usable shiny, if only the ingredient list was better
I've been trying to catch as many Fuecoco as I can and god damn it having fucking Sausages at 30 is so bad.
>>56188968Do you play the game? You're concocting theoretical perfect scenarios to justify having 0 flexibility in the meals that you can make for a week.And even in those theoretical perfect scenarios, you can spend all the time levelling up your fuecoco, evolve it, come to the future ghost island getting ready to swim in apples, and get curries for the week and your time has been wasted cause you went for a single ingredient mon like a retard
>>56189143as opposed to depending on dice rolls and ending up with no apples, a bunch of sausage you don't need and some fiery herbs (which you don't even unlock until level 60) during dessert weeksit will always be better to have specialized pokemon for ingredients than jack of all trades pokemon. If you get curry, then you use gengar for fiery herb or a mushroom gengar. Maybe I could see using apple, sausage, sausage skel since there's no ghost ingredient pokemon with sausage, but depending on what types the ghost island is paired with there's a few decent sausage ingredient pokemon already. I'm saying this as someone who has tried using jack of all trades ingredient Pokemon and invested a lot of resources into them. Consistency is much better. I have two victreebel that are tomato, potato, leek and I'm constantly short on tomatoes during curry week. When they get to 60, then I'm going to have a mishmash of barely any tomatoes, potatoes and leeks. It's much better to have one pokemon for potatoes, one for tomatoes, one for cocoa, etc. There's nothing more frustrating than needing only 2 tomatoes to make something before lunch is over but your pokemon keep giving you something else.
>>56189183ok spend months levelling your fuecoco just to not use it on ghost island curry weeks, seems like a good planit's also great that new recipes haven't ever been introduced to the gameand no recipes have ever been changedbut hey, apples are currently good 2/3s of the time. all in on that
>>56189320>ok spend months levelling your fuecoco just to not use it on ghost island curry weeks, seems like a good planunironically yes. That's only 1/3 that it's not at least decent. Absol is the same way, one good for desserts and curry and one good for fruit salad.>it's also great that new recipes haven't ever been introduced to the gamehow does this refute my point>and no recipes have ever been changedhow does this refute my point>but hey, apples are currently good 2/3s of the time. all in on thathow does this refute my point
>>56189343we do not get enough xp to have a high level pokemon of enough types specialized in enough ingredients to cover every current and future islandyour point was consistency (in gathered ingredients) is better. a pokemon which, based on what you've been arguing, is unusable 1/3 of the time is not more consistent than a pokemon that is usable 100% of the timeand the extras weren't refutations of your point, just more things that show how rigidity is bad
>>56189409We get plenty of exp and ways to level our pokemon and they keep introducing more ways to level every couple of months.>your point was consistency (in gathered ingredients) is better. a pokemon which, based on what you've been arguing, is unusable 1/3 of the time is not more consistent than a pokemon that is usable 100% of the timeExcept it's not usable 100% of the time. If you get a mishmash of ingredients you can't use for meals, then it's not usable. Having that pokemon on your team giving you ingredients you don't need means you don't have a pokemon giving you ingredients you do need consistently. And you can't make those meals (and level them up) without having those minimum amount of ingredients.So if skel decides this salad week that you're getting 0 apples, a bunch of sausage and very little fiery herb, now you need to conform the rest of your team around making superpower salad or contrary salad instead of knowing skel is going to give you apples and making fruit salad. Mono ingredient pokemon let you know exactly what meal to aim for and who to use. That makes them consistent, even if you can't use them every single week.And even if they did introduce new recipes or change recipes, unless they completely change how ingredient pokemon work then this will always be the most efficient way to use ingredient pokemon.
Having every slot be the same ingredient I am finding to be overly redundant.In terms of quantity, having slots 1 & 2 makes it consistent enough to actually rely on for that one ingredient. Only having the first slot is really restrictive since it's only 2x per help, but having it in the second slot as well usually gives you 4-5x (a 100-150% increase). But having the third slot be the same ingredient usually only ends up being around 6-7x (a 50% increase over the previous tier). So if you're planning on having a pokemon gather mainly one type of ingredient, especially with level 60 coming soon, I'd aim for a pokemon with that has that ingredient in 2/3 slots. That should be enough for it to be consistent, but the remaining slot would add some flexibility regardless of whatever recipes you're trying to make.This is also why some ingredient types with a stronger base ingredient are so useful. Being able to gather more than the standard quantity in its tier is just going to smooth things out. Bewear for example, is among the strongest gatherers for anything it picks up because it starts with corn (and also has a decent base ingredient gathering rate).I should also mention that the non-ingredient types that gather 3x ingredients at 30 are very appreciated in helping pad out your supply.Altaria - x3 BeansAmpharos - x3 EggsArcanine - x3 SausageGolduck - x4 ApplesHoundoom - x3 GingerMeganium - x3 HoneyWalrein - x3 Sausage
>>56189507Consider the game on a 3 week basis where you hit all meal types instead of a single week basis
>>56189568I'm not sure I understand your point here, unless you're saying to stock up on your ingredients. Which I'd agree with if they weren't so stingy with the ingredient bag.Otherwise again, you're not hitting all three meal types consistently.>>56189562This is a fair observation. For most pokemon having two slots of one ingredient and the last slot of a high amount ingredient is usually good enough or even great. For instance I have a fiery herb, corn, corn dragonair that I consider to be pretty good. And also a fiery herb, fiery herb, oil dragonair that is probably going to be excellent for salads and curries in the future. I harp on skel specifically because its late game ingredient, fiery herb, is already done by gengar (who can get it in multiple slots). I really don't understand why they didn't give skel corn.
>>56189562In practice, an ingredient specialist that only gathers one type of ingredient will gather more overall, to the point you can run them for one day and swap them out when you've got what you need.Then you run an ingredient specialist (perhaps with favourite berries) to gather ingredients you need throughout the week.Victreebel is a good example of this, it can gather the tomatoes and potatoes needed to make Greengrass Salad, and you alternate Bewear and Toxicroak to stockpile corn and oil respectively.Skeledirge is poised to be an apple beast and will make it easy to regularly make "Calm Mind" Fruit Salad, provided you have a Meganium that can periodically get you honey, or a dedicated honey farmer like Venusaur.
A ingredient specialist has one job:To get the desired ingredients as quickly as possible.Mono ingredients makes this insanely easy. The new duck got two beans and one oil (sadly). It has never been easier for me to get beans and go back to a berry mon afterwards.
>>56189862Currently, leeks and Slowpoke tails can only be gathered at level 30+, so there's no option a mono-leek gatherer. That said Quaquaval has been identified as a great option for making Ninja Salad. Until Sprigatito, there were no options for mono potato gatherers.Something I forgot to mention earlier was that for diverse ingredient gatherers, unlocking slot 2 at 30 halves the amount of slot 1 ingredients they gather, making them unreliable for gathering that specific ingredient.
Day 6 update is here.It notes that July 20th is the global release anniversary, exactly one year, and notes that the total amount of sleep tracked between 7/19/2023 and 5/28/2024 is about 3.9 billion hours, or 0.44 million years.When logging in from July 20th up until 23 September, you can claim a gift of:>Sleep point x2,000>Main Skill Seed x1>Poké Biscuit x10>Friend Incense x3Honestly very nice.
>>56190781Why is this app so nice compared to so many others?
>>56190781>sleep points from last week >good day sleep points this weekend >now 2k tomorrowdrowning in sleep points
>>56190781That's based, I was expecting this to be put in a purchasable bundle. Maybe I got a bit cynical seeing how every event there is a bundle to buy. One more day lf news, so it's going to be a big sneak peek.when are they gonna announce my boy ludicolo for water event?
>>56191097Nothing competitive about this game so it doesn't hurt to throw out some extra stuff and free boosts now and again.
>>56191301>Samba duck >ever sleeping with this genki fucker aroundAnon...
Think this guy could be a good espeon?
>>56191676Nope
hoping i find either a wild raikou or entei this good sleep day, currently at master 15 on greengrass
>>56191676Unfortunately having only max help speed doesn't really do anything appreciable for skill Pokemon unless they also have access to BFS.
I evolved my sprigatito for inventory space and I have extreme buyers remorse what the fuck is this thing. bring my back my cute cat
>>56191676if it wasn't for the Main skill down nature it would have been fine.
I haven't spent diamonds yet so I've got 3400 built up, is it finally time to use that on the anniversary bundle to get the main skill seed?
>>56192211That's a pretty big dump for a pretty limited payout. Ultra Biscuit x5 [valued at 2,000 diamonds]Great Biscuit x10 [valued at ~ 1,000 diamonds]Main Skill Seed x1 [valued at ???]Handy Candy L x1 (100 Pokemon candies) [valued at ???]Sure you're technically getting more than the standard price worth of items, but that's the equivalent of $50 in diamonds. I have to imagine there will be much more worthwhile purchases in the time it would take you to recoup that amount. Biscuits tend to go pretty fast, so it never seems too worth for me to exchange diamonds for them.
>>56192211spend those diamonds on enlarging your ingredients box instead, it's a good investment
>>56190781Very nice indeed.
>get in in time to hit sleep before the >30 mark>put the app on standby to do other shit>accidentally swipe up to close the app>now after restarting it’s back in greengrass waiting for me to hit sleep again>lost the bedtime rewardFUCK
>>56189961Mono also includes ingredient mons which drop ingredients at lvl 30 and 60 that aren’t dropped at other levels. So Golem and Victribel were both mono potatoes.
>>56190781Last day will be anything but mints… it’s so over.I will release her if they don’t announce it.
>>56169212>Pokémon Go PlusAre Pokemon even transportable?
>>56190781Betting new island will be announced. Like to know which berries though
>>56192541No, they stay inside this app sleeping forever.>>56192551High likely
I have not been getting shinies for a while but this week I got>Mareep, completing my entire shiny Mareep line>DittoAnd today I got a dupe Dodrio. Doduo was the first ever shiny I got in sleep and also decently usable on cyan beach.Why can’t I just get something else?
How many anons gonna use raikou/entei incense tomorrow hoping for that 3* sleep style?Good sleep's 2x drowsy power means you only need 1.2/1.3M for it to spawn
>>56191676Only viable as a Jolteon, and the lack of BFS hurts it.
>>56192800I don't have any Raikou or Entei incense right now, though if you do have one using it during the Suicune event would be a good idea also.When aiming for 2* or 3* legendary sleep, you should also put on a lucky or focus incense to try for the big dream shard / research EXP gains.
>>56192800no mane rewards, and no more likely to get unfound sleep styles thing yet. but yeah you'll get a huge sleep score, so maybe it isn't entirely bad to do it
inb4 Day 7 is one way Home compatibility
>>56192923Bigger delusion than mint anon
Realized I still haven't seen a Quaxly yet, despite only Slumbering and Balanced this week.
>>56193854only fuecoco i've seen this week was from an incense i used on it, i've seen tons of sprigs and quaxly though
gonna max out the keema curry today (my first ever max recipe), thank you greengrass for giving me fire and dragon berries
I wish this game had sound direction like something actually relaxing such as Animal Crossing. Even GSC had more relaxing music.
>>56193854This is the first time I've been finding the event pokemon without incense.
>>56194067halloween music was dope
what does energy even do
>>56194338energy determines how fast your pokemon help out.from 100-81% energy your mons have max efficiency allowing them to help out at 2.2x their frequency (the time listed on their stat page)this multiplier goes down with lower energy, so pokemon with higher energy will bring in more productions than pokemon with lower energy
>>56194338>>56194352Energy levels also drop on ladder-steps, indicated by the emoji when you tap on them or view their stats.Energy drops at a rate of 1% every 10 minutes.An Energy for Everyone S Lv. 6 user will restore 18 energy to the whole team, which grants 3 hours worth of boosted productivity. The effect of this on the team is highly substantial and is why a lot of players recommend running a good Wigglytuff, Sylveon, or Gardevoir.Energy recovered through sleeping caps at 100%, but effects that restore energy such as E4E S, Energizing Cheer S, Charge Energy S, and Energy Pillow can boost energy up to 150%.Energy depletion is factored into overnight gathering, meaning your helps gradually slow down until the moment you end your sleep session and an amount of energy is granted depending on your sleep. 8 hours will deplete 48% of their energy.This is why it's especially beneficial for your helpers to have lots of energy before going to sleep.Natures can increase energy gains by 1.2x or decrease them by 0.88x.Due to calculations, this means Pokémon with an energy hindering nature will only wake up with up to 88% energy if they bottomed out during sleeping time.The subskill "Energy Recovery Bonus" multiplies energy recovery by 1.14x. As it happens, 88 x 1.14 is 100, so this subskill can cancel out the energy recovery penalty for Pokémon with such a nature.The penalty still applies to effects like Energy for Everyone S though, but I'm not sure if it does with the Energy Pillow item.Finally, all Pokémon in the box can gain up to 5% energy recovery depending on your sleep session.This is doubled to 10% if you use a Recovery Incense.Recovery Incense as an item is useful for planned shorter sleep sessions, although a lot of players will burn them off for "use 7 incense" missions which are common during events, and have this week. You can get one a week from your bedtime stamp card.
>>56194569i can confirm that energy recovery natures do indeed affect how much energy they recover from energy pillows. energy recovery up natures get 60 energy from pillows, while energy recovery down natures get 44 energy from pillows
>>56194603This anon is full of shit, it's always 50.
Is there anything really worthwhile to do with your diamonds other than increase the size of your various inventories? Also would anyone mind telling me how to get more than 27 ingredients in my pot (other than Pokemon skills)
>>56194697Diamonds are definitely best kept for inventory upgrades, especially ingredient space.The bundles they offer periodically only amount to small boosts or accelerators and don't actually provide much benefit. That's especially considering how expensive diamonds are when using real money, it's very poor value compared to a premium plan, and yet you can earn plenty of diamonds through regular play and sleep.To upgrade your cooking pot requires hitting your next Sleep Style goal.It'll tell you what your rewards are, but doesn't tell you that it'll let you upgrade the pot for some reason.Each goal you hit lets you upgrade your pot two times for +6 capacity.You'll need to hit 110 sleep styles to upgrade to 33. This gives you a free thunder stone by the way, which is great for getting Raichu, a top-tier helper when you get a fast one with BFS.The 7th daily update should be dropping within an hour.I'm expecting it will likely include details about the next sleep style dex goal. It currently takes 290 to hit the last goal and get max 57 pot size, and I'm at 380+ sleep styles now.Based on trends, the next unlocks are likely to be at 340/350 then 400/410 sleep styles.
>>56194774Ah I okay I see, my Magnemite had been carrying me hard with cooking bigger meals. Thanks for the info.
>>56194603Literally just tested it, it's 50 regardless.
its a ribbon...
is the ribbon like evolite?
a unique icon for every pokemon is pretty cool, but i bet it's just a border or a small ribbon added to the portrait. Oh well, mostly useless. It's a carry boost for your pokemon, and a small help boost for unevolved states.
>>56194603Why would someone go on the internet just to tell easily disproved lies?
>could've given a sneak peek of a new pokemon or area>it's a ribbonDepends on how great it works on pre-evo, otherwise I am not excited at all
>>56191928>ribbon being added just to spite mefuck.
>>56195016It has an Eviolite-like effect yes, so that anon wanting to run their Mareep instead of Ampharos may actually get what they want now. It takes 500 hours to get a helping speed boost though.Depending on calculations, this could potentially make Jigglypuff a viable alternative to Wigglytuff as Jiggly has a higher skill trigger rate due to compensate for its slow helping speed.A Jiggly with Ribbon Level 4 gets a 12% helping speed boost, but it may still cap at 35% boost overall based on the subskills.That requires 2000 hours of sleep however, so probably a bad idea.It could also make a BFS Pikachu viable for a Raikou team, but it's probably still better to run multiple BFS Raichu with an E4E healer.The ribbons are underwhelming to be honest, the carry limit boosts are nice but that's basically all it amounts to.Guess I can look forward to my best Wiggly and Raichu getting +8 carry capacity soon. That does help Wiggly have a skill trigger ready in the morning, I suppose.
So it is basically Eviolite. Won't make them particularly any better than their final evolution, but it's a nice add. I guess we'll have to do a little research to see if the boosted help speed will... help. Onix is the first thing that comes to mind since its speed is almost the same as Steelix.
>>56195077It would also boost stuff like Scyther and Porygon2 as they're also side-grade evolutions.Vigoroth probably gains the most from the Good-Night Ribbon.
does anyone here have mon with 2k hours of sleep?i think about eevee anon. i guess he will shine more than ever
>>56195114probably a few. my gardevoir is up to 1200 hours and I got her back in February.
>>56195077So for fully evolved Pokemon it's just +8 to their inventory at max level, which is pretty much useless for berry specialists and not even that much of a boost for other mons.>>56195114My Wiggly is at 2.4k with my Raichu at 1.9k. Next highest is Charizard at 800.
>>56195114My boy here.
I can't really see this being particularly relevant to metagaming, considering you'd have to sleep for 2k hours first to even get started on it. That's opp. cost. The inventory will probably be relevant once 60 ingredient unlock starts rolling in, though
>>56195077wished it helped out the pokemon who have no evolution. this would have helped them out a lot.trying to catch them is a pain in the ass. and when you do catch one, could be super shitty.
>>56195124>>56195134holy fuck. you need to calm down with the sleeping
>>56195114I got a Wiggs at 2.3k then my next highest is a Dodrio at 1k
>>56195114I still have a Pikachu that's at 1,800hr, so the helping speed will actually be a pretty decent bonus for it. I also have 6 other pokemon that are 1K+, but those are all final stages.>>56195142Technically it still does. All pokemon are capable of getting the inventory increases, and that tends to be the most significant downside of single-stage ingredient pokemon.
>>56195149Anon, you sleep about 2500-3000 hours a year, depending on habits/needs.
>>56195198i'll show you
>>56195077holy hell my wishes more or less came true nicedragonair can function semi decentlythis also helps other high evo level pokemon like pupitar since leveling them is a nightmare
>>56195229realistically by the time you've reached those sleep hours you'll have gotten whatever levels you need for those fuckers anyways
>>56195282Yeah, it's an Eviolite with a 500/2000 hour sleep equirement, that's not really a great help to things you intend to fully evolve.
>>56195229>>56195282>>56195407Technically if you didn't use any candies and solely relied on Sleep EXP, it would take roughly 2,200 hours to go from a a level 15 Dratini/Larvitar to level 41. Incredibly unlikely anyone would choose to go that route, but that's how much time it would take.
>>56195114My highest is this boy. I tend to spread my sleep out a fair bit.
>>56195478Yeah, but that's just for the few species with both a high level requirement for evolution, on top of higher EXP requirements.
can't wait to sleep with a turd for 2000 hours just so i can have something that's still worse than my other mons
>>56195491same. i got 4 pokemon who are barely over 1k of sleep. 3 of them are ingredient mons so the ribbon will help them out
>>56195545it's really just a treat for those guys who can't stand the appearance of the later evolutions
Cool how they will make NFEs more viable, but they should have made the additional ribbon bonus affect NFEs, single stages and two stages (to a lesser extent). Players shouldn't be gimped too hard for using their favorites in a game like this.>>56194236I forget how it sounded. I don't hate event music like the Ecruteak remixes, but the normal music on this game gives me a headache. I often play the game with sound off. Can't stand most of the area themes nor the cooking and sleep review themes.
>eevee needs sleep to evolve into umbreon>eevee with invested sleep will be outperforming an evolved umbreonpoor umbreon
>>56195834after factoring in wiki berry's slightly stronger value it's like 2% better, and umbreon has a far better skill + trigger rate for gathering. but you're either spending 150 hours for a shittier houndoom or 2000 hours for a shittier houndoom, so lol
>>56195922the it in this case referring to eevee of course. but if this boost shares the same 35% cap as all the other helping speed bonuses then umbreon takes it again
>>56195834>>56195922Huh? Umbreon is both faster and has a stronger berry even with Eever's 12% boost after 2,000 sleep hours.
Hey /zzz/! New week, same event!>where you going?>what's the plan?>how did your week go?
>>56196931>where you going?Lakeside lapis>what's the plan?Try to get master rank 3 as fast as possible so I can spend the rest the week getting more shards. Want to run into more cat and duck there. >how did your week goIt was okay. Didn’t get good rolls on the new Mon. At least the news was good. Enjoyed the communication for this game.
>>56196931>where you going?Maybe Lapis, I haven't been there in a long time>what's the plan?Try to find pokemon worth using 262 candies on to keep the 15 diamonds flowing in>how did your week go?I got a solid sprigatito that I fucked up by evolving, and I got a cyndaquil that's Got BFS @10 and helping speed S and M @ level 75 and 100 :C, energy up, ingredients down.
>>56196931You should probably be on either Lapis or Cyan to prep for water week. Reminder that there are no rate ups for Snowdrop and Taupe only has Fuecoco.
>>56196931>where you going?Back to Lapis Lakeside >what's the plan?To push that area bonus closer to 60%, and try for a BFS Dratini or ideal Ralts, like before, plus enjoy extra candies for the Lapis Lakeside spawns>how did your week go?Pretty good, got a Rash Fuecoco with Ingredient Finder M and Apples/Apples/Sausages, should be a great fit for a future Ghost islandHere's a reminder of what second week of event has in store:>Candies earned through sleep research multiplied 1.5x>Base dish strength multiplied 1.5x (3x on Sunday)>Mini Candy Boost available (50 candies have 2x EXP for 4x Dream Shard cost)>Featured Pokémon more likely to appear>Research EXP multiplied 1.5x>Pokémon of different sleep types will appear regardless of your measured sleep style>Dream Gift can be opened each dayYou can encounter the following Paldean starter species:>Greengrass IsleSprigatito Family, Fuecoco, Quaxly>Cyan BeachFuecoco Family, Quaxly Family>Taupe HollowFueoco Family>Lapis LakesideSprigatito Family, Quaxly FamilyYou may've encountered Floregato or Meowscarada during Greengrass this week if you were lucky, so you might want to go to Cyan Beach if you want to focus on Crocalor, Skeledirge, Quaxwell, and Quaquaval.You should avoid Snowdrop Tundra however, you won't meet any of the Paldean starters there.I'm personally going to Lapis Lakeside for increase candies on all the good stuff, plus I'm kinda good for Fuecoco right now but am still looking for an uncompromised Sprigatito and Quaxly.The female kitty I got this morning had a bad nature, it's the second case of "mints please".
>>56196054Umbreon got shafted hard by giving it a main skill that's intended for berry or ingredient specialists.Umbreon is pretty mediocre at gathering anything, so Charge Energy S only serves to bolster its own mediocrity, where it should've instead had a main skill that actually helps the team.
>>56196931>where you going?Lapis, my garde is mono apple so I'm not interested in hunting fuecoco at the moment>what's the plan?More Dratini candy mostly, need to get this mono herb one to level 30. >how did your week go?Pretty well, got to master 16 on GG and found a shiny quaxly and a really good double milk sprigatito, gonna be looking for a better double leek quaxly
So what were these strings for ;_; Why are there ribbons but no mints…
>>56196931I still need a good Totodile and haven't caught even a double apple Fuecoco, so Cyan sounds good.My week was rather disappointing, I thought for sure I was going to be able to hit Master 20 for the first time, but will probably fall just short of Master 19. Looks like the Entei event was my only chance and I missed it rip.
>>56197555i feel like the most impact is on single stage mons who don't get the inventory space
>>56196931>where you going?Lapis>what's the plan?Catch a better team for it>how did your week go?Pretty well, got some of the starters but hoping to find more.
>casual player>finally get Master Rank for the first timeDamn Snorlax gets huge.
>>56196054it's an additive bonus with the 500 hour one so that's 11%+14% for 25% total. eevee base freq is 3700 so that would put it down to 2775 without additional factors, umbreon's base is 3200 by comparison. the stronger berry plays a little catchup, but not enough. you wouldn't seriously consider running either one unless it came with BFS and could operate as a gimped berry gatherer, but that's how it goes.
>>56197798eevee can evolve twice?
Ninja, please.
>>56169212I evolved one earlier this week but I feel the skill level up M and BFS makes the sprigatito better than the floragato.
>>56194352>>56194569oh ok thanks
>>56198051To me, the second one is better. Sprig's a better ingredient pokemon than skill pokemon or at least that's been my experience so far. The pot increase is a pleasant surprise when it happens but not something dependable especially with the skill pokemon buff coming soon.That depends if you're going to evolve to meow or not. If you stay grass, then it might be worth it to have a lapis grass pot pokemon but if you evolve, then glaceon does the pot skill way way better.
kinda bullshit i cant use water candies on sphealit literally says any water type
>>56198215ohyeah it's ice and only ice. sucks not having two typings in this game.
im stocking tails for next sunday, should i use them across 3 dishes or go all out in one?
Not the worst thing I've seen, but certainly not worth using...
Going back to the ribbons... after reviewing the entire current pokedex, only Onix and Vigoroth increase their current standing with the added speed bonus. Onix already stood on its own by being the sole Rock-type berry farmer, but its speed also isn't much slower than Steelix, which is only about a minute faster. Vigoroth competed directly with Raticate as a Normal-type berry farmer, but now Vigoroth outcompetes it if it has a ribbon.Unsurprisingly, there aren't any 1st-of-3 stagers that are going to actually compete with their fully evolved forms. Granted that's not really the point of the ribbons, but just for those who are curious.
>>56198485i remember seeing something about psyduck had a bit bigger or same trigger rate than golduck. it was just slower and had a lower inventory capacity was the difference. so maybe the ribbon can work on something like that.if not then maybe i was reading some bullshit.
Been hunting for a good larvitar for a while. Should I invest into one of these or should I keep looking?
>>56198548either would be excellent if bfs didn't exist
>>56196931>where you going?Lapis>what's the plan?Catching some qt kittens>how did your week go?2/3rd reaching the max sleep rank on green grass and new entries, including some rarer sleep stylesOther than this, not that great. Mediocre buddies that I'd had to put down for candy
Man it feels bad not critting on sunday, you miss out on so many points.
>>56198822why i'm risking and building up my pot size so I can cash it in the morning for a head start next week. hopefully my dedenne pulls through and lets me crit a few times that week too.
>>56197840brother i may be stupid
>>56198548Left is pretty decent, but like the other anon said, I wouldn't really train a pseudo without Berry Finding. You need to invest so much time and resources into it, that you should only consider the to top 10% of rolls. Tyranitar does have a pretty decent skill trigger and ingredient rate already, so BFS goes a long way.
>>56198822You know what's even worse?That, but you had +10 crit from dedenne
>>56198548The problem with those Larvitars is that without BFS, it's only worth it if you actually want the ingredients, but mono ginger kinda sucks dick.I have a decent larvitar myself but I've held off from investing on it because the ingredient spread is awful. Maybe if they introduce more recipes then things will change.
Let’s continue the party>>56199492>>56199492
