Konpeito Bowl Edition>I want to learn the game, where do I begin?Download PTCGL at https://tcg.pokemon.com/en-us/tcglThe game has a quick tutorial and a bunch of decent decks to get you started against other beginners or against the AI. Some of those decks are very close to meta too. You can also go to your local game store and see if people are playing Pokémon.>I know how to play, how do I make my own deck?You have a decent beginner's guide at https://www.justinbasil.com/guideThere's also the old /tcg/ guide at https://imgur.com/a/W4NkOu6After that, look up meta decks and try to reverse engineer them to see how things work.>Where to find meta decks?For big irl events, go to https://limitlesstcg.com/decksFor online events, go to https://play.limitlesstcg.com/decks?game=PTCGFor japanese events, go to https://pokecabook.com/archives/1417Previous thread: >>56493599Old /tcg/ pastebin: https://pastebin.com/Ge95YuMA
RepostingAmulet of Hope, from SV8!(Pokémon Tool - ACE SPEC)If the Pokémon this card is attached to is Knocked Out by damage from an attack from your opponent’s Pokémon, search your deck for up to 3 cards and put them into your hand. Then, shuffle your deck.
Maractus ashit
>>56520002meh
Back in my day we had a Stage 2 mon with 100HP that needed 4 Energy to do 60 damage and thats how we liked it
>>56520007wow wtf?
>>56520036which explains why haymaker was so popular
I've been looking up Ancient decks only to see that people only really use Roaring Moon in combat. Coming off of YGO I thought that these PKMN TCG decks that just beatdown and Boss' Orders looked boring and wanted to try a toolbox deck. I looked forward to identifying a problem and using things in my deck to deal with it. Did I misunderstand the concept of a PKMN TCG toolbox deck?
>>56520429What are you actually trying to say? There are some more complicated decks and control, but Roaring Moon is not one of them. It's one of the most unga decks out there.
>>56520453Apologies. My post does seem a bit unreadable haha.I guess any general deckbuilding advice would be fine thank you. I've been passively playing for a while now but I've been struggling with it quite a bit when it comes to building a deck. If that's too vague then let's just say an Ancient deck for now. I've tried Roaring Moon ex, Chien Pao ex and Miraidon ex but currently I crave something more interesting, dynamic and technical.Had my eyes on Ogerpon but what turned me off of that was the best way to play it being cramming in some Dragon-type Pokemon. That about does it.
>>56520429Over the years 'box' decks have lost their meaning. Ancient Box is, as you said, basically just Roaring Moon with the niche option to mill your opponent with a Great Tusk late in the game. It's not actually a toolbox in any sense. Gardevoir, by comparison, is never called a toolbox, but chooses weather to attack with Gardevoir ex, Scream Tail, Flutter Mane, Drifloon, or even Munkidori depending on what best suits the situation. Even that pales in comparison to old toolbox decks that completely changed gears depending on what the opponent was playing, like pic related.
>>56520429There's really not that much options for complicated decision making in the current format. The only one I can think of that has you thinking over 10 mins a turn is Pidgeot Control, and even then it's more of a stall deck than anything.
dumb question, I'm about to craft cards and I see that , for example, Pokèmon Catcher or Pokégear have a foil version that costs the exact same as the standard version (40) , why is that?
>>56520515Drago is more of a box deck then lost box and ancient box
>>56520002Kinda bad, at least until lost vacuum rotates.
>>56520515Box decks will return once lugia FUCKS OFFWe can stack rainbow energy again. Futurebox wont be a bricky mess trying to get the correct energy
>>56520429try gardevoir ex or hydrapple ex
>be terapagos>go first>deal 220 damage turn 2, no drawback>go second>deal 220 damage turn 2, no drawbackwho is responsible for this?
>>56521752>only 220Pffffffffffffffffffft
>>56521864why is creatures pushing basics AGAIN? are they evening the field for the eventual departur of Vchuds?
>>56522067>why is creatures pushing box mons?gee i dunno
>>56521864This guy is underrated af.I just suck at deck building
>>56522067>Print latias >one of the best support mons printed for basics>but also print basic hate>which are complete meme cardsit's pretty funny
>>56522419Balance is good. It's why a Dragon hate card (Kyurem that paralyzes Dragon) was included in the Dragon set.
>>56522468Their mentality is good yeah but god damn those anti-basic hate cards are SOOO much worse. Latias is actually broken. Big basics decks are really strong already too
>>56522524Yeah I agree. Creatures suck at making countermeasure cards and only succeeds at making them when the card that they want to counter is /irrelavantabout to rotate anyway (baby Kyurem)
>>56522419>That exeggutorGod damn I'm gonna be sad when Drago rotates
6 Stellar crown pack codes. Works for everyone and expires on the 5thGeekAndSundryTerapagosGEEKANDSUNDRYSTELLAR
>>56522827Oh there is also 3 more with this code. So 9 total packsGEEKANDSUNDRYCROWN
>>56521864I cant wait to try out the new stadium that reduces evo mon health with okidogi.
where do you buy celebration packs
>>56523062>PTCGL in the shop, under expansions>IRLask the collectors >>56491701, or your lgs, or google
>>56523062In the shop
Anyone got a good raging bolt list?
will we ever get a supporter ace spec?
>>56523329I was wondering about this too the other day. Why are there Ace Specs for every trainer cards besides Supporters?They could even reprint Lysandre's Trump Card if they made it an Ace Spec and make it so that it's impossible to get back.
>>56523329There's prism cards which was that.It's why people didn't expect ace spec stadiums or special energy, since there was already those with prisms. Ace specs were tools/items and prisms were stadium/supporters/pokemon/special energy.
>>56522827>>56522831:D
What decks does Iron Thorns ex shut down? I've found it leaves Chien Pao with nothing except hoping for lucky draws, but Arcanine ex still fucked me up.
>>56523726Decks that rely heavily on abilities, primarily charizard, gardevoir, lugia. Ones using ogerpon too like regidrago struggle, while others that are semi-reliant like raging bolt can still get energy in play even without ogerpons. Decks like dragapult just don't care about abilities so they get a completely free match up A lot of the current meta is reliant on abilities, even from turn 1 with squawk and using mew/fez to draw after hand disruption. Iron thorns is currently the only way to turn off abilities in format, so people don't respect it as much. There used to be a stadium card which was iron thorns effect, that saw A LOT of play
Should I play Thorns or StallLax to my next challenge?
>>56523790Do you wanna be hated by everyone there? Snorlax
>>56523802Yes. Half of them are trannies and the other half smell bad because they never heard of deodorant.
>>56523811That's literally the Snorlax player demographic
Meowstic, from SV8!Ability: Luring TailOnce during your turn, you may discard 1 "Fluffy Cat Toy" card from your hand to use this Ability. Choose 1 of your opponent's Benched Pokémon and switch it with their Active Pokémon.PCC - Psy Shot 80What was that anon? You want MORE gust? Well don't mind if I do!
>>56524208Fluffy Cat Toy, from SV8(Item)You can use this card only if you go second, and only on your first turn.Put 1 Energy from 1 of your opponent's Pokémon back into your opponent's hand.
>>56524208>>56524211not worth wasting 3 slots for the extra boss'd
Is dragapult fun ? I was thinking of building it as my first competitive deck. What's better between the Dusknoir and Xatuengine?
Wanna start playing the game, is it worth buying something like Astral Radiance Elite Trainer Box for a starter ?
>>56524208>>56524211An item that can only be used in a specific condition, but mons can utilise it for a different ability, is an interesting idea for the PTCG, but I'm looking forward for it to not be viable
>>56524431As long as Junk Arm doesn't get a reprint I don't think it's going to replace Boss.
>>56524441I more meant in that I doubt it'll be good enough and/or there won't be more pokemon that can use it for additional synergy
>>56524454Yeah on they're own it's kinda shit since Boss already does all the work you need but the concept is nice and I also would like to see more Pokemon Abilities/Item cards synergies like this.They've done it a number of times in the past but most of them are in the form of Attacks/Supporters.
I'm at the point where I'm almost guaranteed to pull minimum 100 crafting points per Stellar crown pack. How many credits do you guys usually make per expansion (and how many codes do you manage to redeem)?
>>56524848Not too sure, I usually buy a couple of celebrations bundles with crystals after the battlepass ends, so I can craft all the full arts I wanted from the previous battle pass set that I didn't manage to pull from it>(and how many codes do you manage to redeem)Only ever the battlepass I don't buy extra, then twitch drops if they do that (only like 6 packs anyway). but that's mainly so I can get the new ETB sleeves/deck box since those were also the reward
What is the tier ranking of these decks?
Is there a good product to buy if I want to get into this game? I know a local store carries Battle decks, but I have no idea if that's worth it. i mainly play Bandai card games so I'm use to the idea of buying a couple starters and getting a usable deck out of it.
>>56525400damn I thought Dragapult was much higher
Bot time
>>56525450Anyone? I'm considering just buying the Lucario ex Battle deck and going from there but I just want to make sure I'm making a decent choice.
>>56525450Not really. The battle decks will give you at least something to play, but they're still pretty far from viable in even casual league tournaments. They usually provide you some good staples, but the cost of those staples on their own would typically be lower than the cost of the prebuilt deck. Typically the most cost-effective thing is to simply look up decks on limitlesstcg and then buy the exact singles you need for the decklist. And if you really felt like it you could grab an etb for the storage/card sleeves/damage counter dice. But it's not uncommon for local shops to have those sort of things that they might be willing to give out for free to new players.In my opinion the best way to introduce yourself to the game is first to download tcglive and play it a bit so you can learn the basic mechanics and experiment with some decks. Then prereleases are a great way to ease into in-person events since they provide you with a basic deck and put everyone on the same playing field.
>>56524211ogerpon players BTFO
>>56524397>ETBnot really, unless you absolutely want the dice, sleeves and a box to store your bulk. And even then some lgs or ebay sell those separately and much cheaper without boosters. You're better off buying a level 3 pre-built deck and singles to improve it, along with some better sleeves
https://a.co/d/ccvmAfUI read that this would be a good starter if I already am somewhat familar with how the game plays. Is that correct?
is tapu lele gx still a thing
>>56525703It's called a Lumineon V now.There's also a budget version if you want.
>>56525712only a couple of months left with lumineon on the formatafter that, we've got nothing like it
>>56525788Sure there's no more instant "search for a Supporter from your deck" basic two prizer, but there's actually a bunch of one prizer evolution mons that does the same thing.Lumineon's been around for 2 years so I'd say it's a good time for her to retire. They'll probably just print a similar card down the line anyways, this time with ex in its name.
>>56525712>We have noctowl at home
>>56525788They'll definitely reprint it. They always do. It used to be jirachi EX before tapu lele I just hope they don't print it as a tera pokemon. That will be far too OP, since you can area zero, noctowl and have it be immune to bench damage
>>56525400It doesn't matter. They're all earning points proportional to play rate.
So I ended up buying the Palkia Vstar deck. What cards should I consider as upgrades to it down the road?
>>56526113Good cards
double devo in gardy is shitty on these motherfucking pults right now holy moly
>>56526349What's the point of Devo in Garde anyway? Munkidori sniping?
Just. Fucking. Concede.
>nest ball>rotom prized>kms
>>56526353stops decks of throwing around rare candy on dusknoirs like it's not fucking rare
>>56526530No Heavy Ball?
>bought both the Miraidon deck and the upcoming Charizard deck>Really excited to get into the game.Feels pretty good to have a game I'm excited about playing after playing so much Fusion World.
>>56526127Is there seriously some autist that sits watching this general all day every day, replies within 5 minutes just to post the "rules" of this thread?
>>56526709No. People just get sick of guys coming in here asking questions that 5 minutes on Limitless or Youtube could answer. "I'm dumb, do everything for me" gets old after a while, especially when deck resources are in the OP.
that's why I call these fuckers, bots
>stop talking about tcg or I'll call you bot
rent free
To be fair the OP doesn't have any tutorials or shit on PTCGL. The old build guides cards are all rotated now too If you got time to whine about people being bots go make a new image guide
I'm double sleeving my deck with outer sleeveswhat deck box is going to fit this gigantic deck?
>>56527070Any? A double sleeved 60 card deck is equivalent to around 80 cards in thickness. Magicfags are the primary concern when making tcg supplies, so just about every deck box you can find outside of Japan will hold 80-100+.
i signed up for a big event, should i play with my bros or metacuck?
>>56527228>i signed up for a big event, should i lose or try to win?
>grass/fire dual type>+70 per damage counter on this pokemonWould be pretty good if there was a fire capsakid. Kinda bad since it takes 3 turns to evolve+basin twice.
>30 to active, 120 damage to two benched pokemon if 3 or fewer cards in your deckNot enough self mill right now to turbo it out
>+200 damage if 3 or fewer cards in your deck
Second attack only usable if azelf and uxie in play.>>56527281Forgot that counter gain in the format lets you chain attacks easily if you do manage a fast mill.
SCRAMBLE SWITCH IS FUCKING BACK!!!
Kneel to Big Pika
>>56527290What deck needs scramble switch right now? It's a ohko format.Are you really wasting an acespec to try and move energy from swim freely, psychic embrace, or magneton?
SILENCE ZOOMER
>put 2 damage counters on each of your opponent's pokemonDecent spread, gets by Manaphy, could see some tech play.
>It's backEnjoy getting assblasted out of nowhere by random iron hands and other attackers
>>56527311>Just yveltal without a condition attachedHuh? That's much better>Buddy poffin-able tooUxie froslass coming soon
>>56527313Maybe the format will need turn 1 ting-lu to shut down terapagos.
>>56527311Also the Azelf has a 10x the number of damage counters on your opponent's board attack. Radiant Tsareena is probably going to see a surge in play as Dragapult gets more and more popular, but after rotation this seems like a pretty solid deck that would want to take 6 prizes in one turn like those old Tapu Koko/Espeon EX decks.
>>56527305It allows you to bypass acceleration restrictions. Stuff like gardy could run iron hands + luminous energy to pick up multi prize KOs. While still having a damaged scream tail or balloon on the bench ready essentially checkmating themThere's probably some other combos like with stellars I'm not thinking of. Iron hands seems like the most obvious answer for any deck that can easily stack energy
>>56527327Azelf being part colorless is decent, you can use counter gain on it which will certainly be active if you've just been spreading damage counters for a couple turns. Making it a 1 turn energy attachment to giganuke. Mespirit seems ass tho
>>56527334There is already a similar energy passing card in format. It is never used for the energy passing effect.
>thortonlollmao even
>>56527353Supporter for turn sucks, and scramble switch can just be used as a regular switch anyhow vs control
We should also be getting an ampharos line this set
>>56527313Ohko format.Literally any other ace spec is better right now
you said that already, bot
What's an ohko?
>>56527278Anon, your poison? Dodrio + damage pump? Picrel?
>>56527499beep boop
>>56527278With how many fire types we're getting lately who want damage counters. And basin rotating soon. It makes me wonder if we're gonna get another fire energy acceleration for damage counters
>>56527517Bots can't detect sarcasm, huh
>>56527507>poisonWill get ko'd by opponent since you left it active>Dodrio + damage pumpWasn't viable for radiant heatran, won't be viable for scovillain>PicrelPretty reasonable, but you still have a weakened two-prizer on your board before you can attack.>>56527499Ah yes, the common scenario where you put 9 energy on pikachu-ex in order to justify using scramble switch.
>>56527499Damage placing gormst
>>56527528*Format
>>56527526>Ah yes, the common scenario where you put 9 energy on pikachu-ex in order to justify using scramble switch.Electric and metal energy are very easy to accelerate.
>>56527528>has never been relevant outside of that one 3 months period
>>56527526>Pretty reasonable, but you still have a weakened two-prizer on your board before you can attack.Yes, that's the point. That's the drawback of the powerful attack with a really high damage cap.
>>56527581With the new latias giving free retreat he's become a pivot in some area zero decks. Makes gourging fire a lot less clunky too
When Lugia rotates are we likely to get anything like the Holon energies again? They would work pretty well with the Stellar mons (assuming they get updated to match power creep of course).
Question if I may, I'm playing the sim as well and was wondering how long it'd take to unlock the Premium Battle Pass Pro from starting out? I figure not long since just doing the Tutorials got me like 500 crystals or so.
>>56527831Around tree fiddy weeks
>>56527831Assuming you mean the deluxe pass with the extra levels. I can't remember how much it is, but just take the cost, subtract 500 and divide the rest by 60 for the challenges and that's your number of days. C=(P-500)/60Even less if you want to sweat out ranked for more gems.Come on though anon, it's basic maths.
Any suggestions here? I'm new to Pokèmon TCG (coming from Yugioh) and I decided to build Terapagos as my first competitive deck (since I had to craft only 500 credits worth of cards). I still don't understand how do I manage situations where I have another Pokémon that's not Terapagos on my main bench (like Hothoot etc) since I have to burn on of my only 4 energies to retreat it and swap it. I think I want to boost Colress to 2 and maybe cut Night Stretcher for some energy recovery card? Also some people play 2 Pidgeot Ex and 2 Pidgeys but I feel like they brick too much. Also let me know the best way to share decklists here.
>>56527750What was this supposed to be from a flavor perspective
>>56527925I've never played this deck so take this with a grain of salt:-Theres no way to recover a double colorless, so if you feel you need that, run basics >Run the switch card if you need free retreats>Briar is bad>That's the best way to share decklists for feedback, if you want someone to test the deck then post a text list>Dunno about colress but I would probably run more iono or judge>Check the sticky for justinbasil list or for the comp meta lists for this archetype and go from there
>>56527925some lists play 1 or 2 copies (mostly 1 I think) of Jet Energy for the pivot, works against control as welldon't mind anything getting stuck in the active, because after it gets ko'd you can promote pidgeot and retreatit's not bad to give a single prize sometimes, there's a few times where you can >dusknoir ko a single prize>briar and ko for 3or>dusknoir for softening>briar for 3honestly, terapagos is really good if you win the coin flip and go first
If i wanted to make a spider man deck, with only spiders, what would be an appropriate draw support pokemon? I know there aren't any draw support spider cards but are there any bug ones? Or ones that go with a spider man theme? Its for halloween, a year or so ago i made a batman deck and it turned out...functional.
>>56528568I think only lost origin beautifly fits the bill, other grass drawers use attacks to do so. Also no spooders
>>56528568This butterfly maybe
>>56528613big dawg that's not a spider big dawg
>>56528613>>56528608That works nicely. I wonder why people use bibarrl over this. Grass vs colorless? Any trainer cards i should know? I want to have galvantula ex, spidops (ex and one of the shuffle pokemon back into deck type), ariados maybe. Tho i fear that might to many. But i do want to include the available spiders.
>>56528622Stage 2
>>56528626Oh dang it you're right.
>>56527750I always thought we'd get energy for stellar mons, but in the end they were just tagged as "tera" with no change compare to regular teras. So any rainbow energy-like one you give to teras, stuff like dragapult will also abuse itWe desperately need ancient and future special energy though, they fucking suck currently. They're similar to rapid/single strike but lack the energy/support those archetypes did
I just redeeemd 5 codes with the scan, clicked collect all and they just disappeared by emptying the list? what the fuck?
I want to play an unofficial version of the tcg like how we have Showdown for battling and use the meta/rules from one of the previous games like gen 4 since I never grew up playing the card game. Where can I find a way to play the tcg like that?
>>56528737you can't. enjoy your PTCGLive goy
>>56528753I know that PTCG Live is the official version but are there unofficial versions out there? I don't have the physical cards for that. I remember there was a site to make your own version of Cards of Humanity a while back, so I was hoping there was something similar or like Showdown for the PTCG.
>>56528769wait for twinleaf to release
>>56528183Dunno if you know about the ex Delta series of cards but Holon was a lab that researched delta species, which were Pokémon that had abnormal types. These energies fit in with that theme I guess.I hadn't actually clocked before that they look like the react energy.
>>56528786What is that? A card format, expansion, etc.? I don't know anything about the card game and other than simply knowing that as the starting town in DPP, it doesn't mean anything to me.
>>56528804>asks for unofficial client>can't put 2 and 2 together to think that anon replied with the name of an unofficial client
>>56528737>>56528769Not really any unofficial ones around. The TCG online scene isn't that big. The official client is fine in what it does. You just can't do unofficial/old formats like you're wanting though. Your best bet for that is doing card proxies irl or on tabletop simulator, but you'd need to find a friend to play that with since you wont have online matchmaking like showdown for that.
>>56528856Like I said, I don't know anything about the card game and that also includes people coming up with unofficial versions. So I'm sorry I didn't realize that Twinleaf was supposed to be the name of an unofficial client in the works.>>56528858Damn. Guess I'm out of luck there atm. Thanks tho.
Apparently ebay has livestreams now. Some guy was selling a bunch of packs of symbolless Jungles that are being bought for over $500 each
>new player>built zard pidgeot>want to play a different deck>no currencytf am i supposed to do
Were you able to trade cards with other players in online ? Google keeps redirecting my search results to results about live. Yes I understand you can't trade your cards in live but what was the situation in the previous game ?
>>56529170Yes
>>56529170Yes you can trade cards and even packs. But the crafting system we got right now is way cheaper and efficient.I do wish they kept the tournament feature around, though.
>>56529198>>56529200thank you. I was just able to piece everything together after finding enough clues. In MTGO you are able to buy / sell / trade cards just exactly like the physical cards. I see for PTCGO the secondary market was against ToS and you basically just had a DIY one-way premium currency of tradeable boosters. Where as MTG Arena no-trade card crafting is a downgrade from MTGO it was actually an upgrade to go from PTCO to PTCGL in that regard.
>>56529159zard pidgeot is one of the free decks tho? you shouldn't have spent anything on it you would've had the cards already
>>56529234i upgraded it with rotom, lumineon, prime catcher, etc
>>56529159redeem some codes, you might find some card shops that might gift you a bulk of them or snipe hunt recent youtube pack openings
>>56529239they're not bad ones to get, they're universal staples so having them now saves you crafting them for other decks
>>56529461yeah im only missing teal masks and raging bolts but they're expensive so
>>56529515and then ogerpons can be used in other decks like hydrapple. soon enough you'll have all the multi-deck cards and the only things left to craft would single lines of pokemon like raging bolts that are deck exclusive. eventually it becomes cheap as you need fewer cards each time. and cheaper when building new set decks too as you often get most the cards from the battlepass for free. it's just trying to get prior set cards takes a bit of catching up to craft
>>56529537should i spend crystals on the current set or
What are the must have Ace cards? Prime Catcher and Unfair Stamp right? I already have Giant Tree and Sparkling Crystal.
>>56529546nono always buy thisat first you wont get any credits to start off, but when you do get 4x of the cards, you start getting dupes, and since this set consists of only rare+ cards you get the most crafting credits value. you get 3.5k to 4k+ credits from 1 purchase of this when you have 4x of the cards just make sure to keep 600 crystals on hand if there's a new set up coming so you can buy the upcoming battlepass
>>56529629maybe neo upper and legacy
>>56529629depending on which decks you playlegacy energy and hero's cape are the most common apart from prime catcher and stamp
>>56529629Catcher, stamp and maximum belt are the big 3 Hyper aroma, secret box and perfect mixture are also universal but not as "strong"The rest are pretty deck specific so they're good but not must haves to rush to get asap
>>56529811I thought having your bench filled turn 1 would be a great thing, no? Why is that cars that can put any number of basic Pokemon on your bench not higher in the list?
>>56529825You cut your desk of nest balls, poffin and search to run it instead, so if it's prized your deck kinda bricks.. Even if it's not you still need to somehow find the 1 card (or arvens) to find it out. Vs just running nest/poffin and getting at least some value out of the 3-8 basic search you have in the deck
>>56529811I'd be inclined to move Neutralisation zone up a tier. It may be easy to counter in theory but if you don't drop it too early and your opponent doesn't have removal you can shut down your opponent's deck entirely. I drew one late into a match and won despite dealing terrible damage because my opponent just couldn't hit me.
I don't know why you guys have two generals, but I have this random code lying around. I don't play tcg online but I bought a card pack for nostalgia reasons a few years agohere is the code:gkj-yrw2-n9k-r2h
>>56529902got it, thanks
>>56529864Fair bit of stadiums wars run atm because area zero, but that was a quickly rushed memelist anyway. I'd drop stuff like master ball down too
>>56530000checked
Pokémon: 121 Mimikyu PAF 373 Drakloak TWM 1294 Dreepy TWM 1281 Tatsugiri TWM 1313 Dragapult ex TWM 1301 Dusclops SFA 191 Entei V CRZ-GG 362 Pidgeot ex OBF 1641 Duskull SFA 182 Pidgey MEW 161 Rotom V CRZ 451 Dusknoir SFA 20Trainer: 193 Rare Candy SVI 1911 Defiance Band SVI 1692 Earthen Vessel PAR 1631 Briar SCR 1321 Crispin SCR 1333 Buddy-Buddy Poffin TEF 1441 Iono PAL 1851 Kieran TWM 1541 Technical Machine: Devolution PAR 1771 Super Rod PAL 1883 Ultra Ball CRZ 1461 Temple of Sinnoh ASR 1551 Penny SVI 1831 Forest Seal Stone SIT 1562 Nest Ball SVI 1811 Rescue Board TEF 1591 Unfair Stamp TWM 1653 Arven SVI 1662 Boss's Orders PAL 172Energy: 24 Basic {R} Energy SVE 105 Basic {P} Energy SVE 13Total Cards: 60What can i remove to add a counter catcher? >inb4 P energy
>>56530431Radzard > Entei. Dusknoir accelerates how early you can use itPenny is useless it can't pick up dragapult, swap it to turo Maybe swap super rod for night stretcher, it's easier to do evo combos with it. but then you wouldn't have energy recovery for crispin >>inb4 P energyprobably lmao. 5 is excessive. a lot of lists just run 3/3. I'd drop 1 psychic and fire for night stretcher and counter. night stretcher essentially acts like another energy
>>56527373I love the attention to detail in this card, You can pinpoint where exactly in Olivine this card takes place. The buildings and flags match up.
>>56530545I'll never forget reaching her gym and getting mad she wouldn't want to battle but finally understanding there are much bigger things at play than me
>>56530545Neat detail, nice catch anonNow I wonder if past deckboxes/sleeves also included details like this
>>56527499Is this even good
Is there a standard legal way to build a Gengar deck and still win? Or are there no good Gengar cards right now?
>>56530808Gengar ex is... meh, but you can try to make it work I guess. Gengar's relevancy right now is tied to being a support in providing injured mons for Zoroark VStar or switching out buff dolphins in Palafin ex.
what is the purpose of radiant charizard in the zard pidgeot deck this thing does basically nothing but bail me out of mulligans
>>56530890A. be your first basic so it dies to power up your board and darkzard earlyB. be your last basic to win the game
>new to ptcg>started playing tcglive last week>just hit ultra ball tierdoes this mean im decent at the game or is this still shitter rank
>>56530923not bad, what deck are you using?
I'm not winning many games due to being new and shit, but I'm enjoying this game way more than the other card game I play. It's almost refreshing.
>>56530957zard pidgeot
Is upgrading the Miraidon League deck with some of the cards from the Zapdos ex deluxe deck worth doing still or are most of those cards out of rotation?
if you had to recommend one top tier deck for a new player to pick up which would you recommend?
beep boop
>>56532076They gift you the Charizard Pidgeot deck which I think is one of the strongest decks right now (I'm new as well and started like 5-6 days ago). I played ladder with the Roaring Moon one tho and I'm having fun, reached the Great Ball Tier Rank or whatever.
>>56532076>>56532095also noob, got to ultra ball with zard pidgeot >>56530923
>>56531497Which cards
Bros I cant seem to spend my coins on individual cards in the deck editor. How does one do that Inb4 bot
>>56532532you spend credits on cards not coins. coins are used for worthless cosmetics. except card sleeves.
>>56532582>not buying cosmetics to make your character as obnoxious as possible so the thumbs up tilts them even harder
cinderacezard, plausible or cope?
who are some good jap or players in general to follow that post good lists for PTCGL?
>>56532779Henry BrandI don't know jap players tho
>>56532674I wish we could make pgo level abominations
>>56532817>Henry Brand*
How do it deal with iron thorns? Even if I have a chance to win it's just a long aggravating slog
>>56533134stinky players hate cologne
>>56533142Is running one copy of Cologne supposed to help?
>>56533134Simply play non-rulebox decks.
>>56533208Which ones are any good?
>>56533242>goodOh right, yeah that's your problem.
>>56533248????I get that you're trolling but I don't get it
>>56533275there are no good non-rulebox decksat least not ones that will win you a tournament
>>56533275I'm just being facetious. Any deck that doesn't rely on rulebox Pokémon's abilities will be fine. A lot of decks are slotting in Fez now so obviously they all suffer there but otherwise you can use them. Dark Zard is ok, just difficult to accelerate energy. Roaring Moon should also be alright as should Arcanine ex.Other than that these should work but they're certainly not meta:Great Tusk millPoison ConkeldurrFestival LeadUnited WingsSeakingWalking Wake exMagcargo ex
lol
>>56534183What's so funny
>cornerstone>aegislash>mimikyunigger detected
>>56534334seriously what do these players think? they'll be the hero that stopped all the meta players? sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh
I'm not like other ex stoppers, I'm different.
Would you change anything here?
Whoopshttps://pokemoncard.io/deck/dragapult-ex-89595#google_vignette
>>56534420>natu>xatuuse a more recent decklist
>>56530535What is the best dragapult deck?
>>56534712the one that wins
>>56534712Limitless has all the tourney results with decklists. A dragapult list won dortmund you'll find on there, that'll probably be the most common dragapult list for a while
Posted these for some friends but if they're not redeemed yet their loss
>>56534941thanks
How do I get this coin
Just ran into the gayest deck I've ever seen that used Gardevoir to power up this same drifloon repeatedly and ohko my ex'sEvery turn this mf would revive the same drifloon with stretcher
>>56535131Yep that's gardevoir, their comeback potential is stupid op
Do you think when refine rotate will be the end of Garde?
newbie to the game, been playing irl for a couple weeks nowshould I wait for tcg pocket to drop to get into the digital scene of the game or will it not matter much? also, what are the main differences we know so far between live and pocket?mechanically there's a lot of small things that have been stumping me that I pick up on after a little bit, but is there a rulings resource i can look into of any sort? semantics of text has felt very "whatever it feels like" in terms of how things work at times, so I'm not confident that just reading the relevant cards is enough half the timehow hard will i get stomped on tcg live ladder with off meta? in particular, wugtrio mill? been doing relatively fine with it at locals but very few actually played top tier decks to begin with, so I haven't faced much super fast ramp up yet and know I'd get stomped against that reliably. is there something with a similar control style that can compete well enough or would I need to pivot to something like blocklax for a control strat?
>>56535294If you're familiar with Yugioh, Pocket is the "Duel Links" version of Pokémon TCG, and if I'm not mistaken Pocket has completely new cards made for the game that are not available in PTCG. Also while Duel Links is competitive Pocket seems completely casual (no ranked yet)
>>56535378I see, good to knowI'll give live a go and see how i fair, does it have the typical dusting system? feels like a no brainer but duel links exists so I gotta ask
>>56535474Yes you can craft cards but you can't disenchant. You can get dust only if you get more than 4 copies of a type of card. What people do is keep buying the same bundle (usually celebrations) or the same starter decks so that after your second purchase you start getting 3-4k dust for every purchase (for reference a common is 40 dust, an ex card goes for 600). I don't know what's the best thing to buy right now to get dust tho. Also the game gifts you very strong and competitive decks right at the start (charizard pidgeot) so if you like those you can just spend in upgrading the starters.
>>56535487mildly annoying but workable, sounds like they're generous enough that it's not a real problem even if you want to build meme decksI'll do more digging and messing with it at a later point, but I've already gotten multiple errors just trying to load the game after my first session so we'll seeif there's one thing that's making me feel retarded its customization, because I haven't been able to figure how to change eyebrows of all things
>>56535509>dustI myself started playing 1 week ago and as an autist I started redeeming codes from people giving them away in videos, now I'm sitting on so much dust that I can build whatever I feel like. >customizationthe faces just look retarded you can't do much with them other than putting glasses on. I know that they usually have season/event/holiday/whatever specific cosmetics
>>56530545>>56530594There's lots of stuff like this. The cards on top all take place in the park featured in the card on the bottom.
>>56534420How are you supposed to get that Lance when you need it?
>>56535294>pocketPocket is not the tcg ruleset. it's basically an attempt to make a fast paced mobile,friendly version of the tcg. Short games, like marvel snap. tcgl is the best way to get games in and master your deck>wugtrio millI play that deck and I fucking love it. I made a control variant that usually catches people off-guard, so it works very well. Especially online and against irl opponents who refuse to build their deck around the local meta.
anyone tried the dragapult/charizard ex deck? how is it? also for pure dragapult is it better to run xatu or dusknoir along with Pidgeot?
I have a bunch of old pokemon cards i want to get rid ofThere are a few cards that are worth a few bucks (at most $5) so should I just sell them on ebay as a big pack?Or should I just throw them out? The majority of them are worthless and they are all bent from years of being in a box
>>56536050search the catalog for the correct thread, retard
>>56536075I haven't been to this board since USUM and you faggots haven't changed at all
>>56536090fuck off faggot
>>56536090Were we supposed to change?
>>56535201>candy into garde>bench full of N's bitch>spam balloons
>>56535294>wait for tcg pocket?no, it's a different game>main differencespocket is mostly to collect digital cards and play a heavily simplified version of the game, learning it won't help much in the real gameLive is the main game and you should play to improve your playing skills>rulings resourcehttps://compendium.pokegym.net/I recommend checking out the very first pages of ruling (the oldest) first to understand core mechanics, and then the latest ones for modern 'mons. Then if you still have questions check out the categories or search for a specific attack/ability/card name you don't understand>off metamilling and stalling are good choices but only pick one, snorlax for stall and great tusk or wugtrio for millalso this anon posted a few good off-meta decks >>56533306
>go to local tournament>doing well by far, 2w 1L>final match is a win, enough time for game 2>only 1 active mon going first>did not pay attention to the opponent's hand and he claims he had an ultra ball before using arven>ultra ball was bottom deck>now I either accept he had an ultraball or obliterate all good faith moving forward>lands the KO that turn using ultra ball>get 7th place I hate locals
>>56535794this is what I mean by in-card lore like yugi
>>56536412always call a judge
>>56535294>>56536411my bad they're not pages, just go here and scroll to the bottom https://compendium.pokegym.net/all-rulings-by-date/
>>56536050Country/state? How can I contact you?
>>56535794>snom taking up the entire benchwhat a fatass
>>56536427I didn't want to be THAT GUY because we both are regulars
newb here, what's the point of Professor Turo?
>>56537038the fear of being that guy is what enables cheaters to do their thingI call a judge even if it's my best friend as I know we humans are retarded and/or devious
>>56537115>active mon wasn't OHKO and I have another in bench waiting, I pick him up to avoid giving my opponent 2 prizes>have support mon on bench and you see your opponent can snipe it, not anymore as I picked it up>have abilitymon on bench and can be used once per turn/evolve, I pick him up and play him again to use it againthere may be other cases as well like pivoting
>>56537115It lets you remove 2 prize liabilities off board, like rotom, lumineon and squawk, so your opponent doesn't have an easy 2 prize KO on them later. This can be used against control decks too, so they can't trap your non-attackers in the active, you can turo them off boardAlso it can be used to remove your damage stage 2 pokemon, like dragapult and charizard. At 330 HP they'll often survive a hit, so you can turo them to deny your opponent knocking them out. It is mostly a "win more" card, to help deny routes for your opponent to win
>opponent has a non-prebuilt, non-copypasted deck that seems interesting>have opportunity to win on like turn 3>intentionally fuck around a bit to give them time to set up>end up having an incredibly close and fun matchgreat stuff
how many cards are we still missing from spoilers in Surging Spark?
>>56537138how realistic is that the same 3-5 guys win every week at my lgs when there are over 30+ players with like 3 new ones every week or two?I know a few of them have been caught cheating before, is it too much of a coincidence?
>>56537433very realistic, the difference between good and average players is huge if I don't go 3-1 at locals it's a huge failure on my part
>>56537409The prelease chienpao which appears to be a stadium removal when you play it?And there's 4 more regular ex (not teras) left to be revealed. All the teras and ace specs have been shown
>>56535822>>56536411>>56536440appreciated, this is a massive helpfellow wug man, mind if I see your list? I've been unsure of ratios on a lot of things outside of the deck core, maybe you've got something I haven't seen yet
I made a venomoth froslass deck as a joke and went to localsWent 3-1-1, winning 2-0 against chari, raging bolt and chien paoLost against greninja-dusknoir and draw against lugia.I was just trying to get a laugh and lose everything, but I'm starting to think this deck isn't a joke at all.
>>56537685Try adding a couple of dusclops and a radiant alakazam.
>>56537685the meta is very ability and item heavy so its not surprising. its why people can find success with iron hand ex.
Will the three-digit code for Surging Sparks be SUS?
Is it worth it to include a copy of Enamorus V in Gardevoir to shut down the annoying Dusknoir snipe that's in like 40% of decks right now?I'm not sure if it'll really help since you'd need to have your mons attached with psychic energies, which isn't a problem of course, but the problem is that you'll also put at least 2 damage counters on those mons and that means it's easier for Dragapult to snipe. Yes there's Moonlit Hill to heal those damage but you WANT damage for your Drifloon/Scream Tail for attacking, and with all the energies spread there's almost none to attach and put more damage on them.
>>56537685 list please
https://limitlesstcg.com/decks/list/12922>Klawf/Electrode getting Top 4 in a regionalKlawfbros!
>+70 dmg per damage counters on this PokemonWhy are we getting so much damage bloat recently?And I thought +160 damage just for having a Special Condition on yourself is bonkers
>>56538204+10 damage two years later is insane powercreep
>>56538097You can use It as a forest seal Stone slave so it might be worth it.
>>56538257You forgot to take into account the +100 HP and 1 less energy cost. And idk, maybe also being able to have 4 copies of these in a deck instead of one?Yes, it is insane powercreep.
>>56538204what the fuck is this?
>>56538288Scovillain ex from the new set
>>56538204I'm unironically going to play this and ohko everything
I just hit zard rank. is it worth to grind out to ultra ball league or will it just reset me to the bottom of great ball again?>>56538204you can probably use this to replace the arcanines in the arcanine ex deck the game gives you and make it way more powerful. I might try it out
>>56538204There's no consistent way to both build up the energy and apply damage counters>BasinOnly half, you still need 5 damage counters to OHKO zard. If you're just going to damage pump stuff you may as well just play zoroark and OHKO stuff even easier
>>56538204With Hero's Cape that's 35 damage counters max, which equals to 2450 damageIs this the highest amount of damage possible in the game? Or is there an even more broken multiplier than this
>>56538610It's high for what could be realistically achieved in a normal game.Standard has slowking copying cinccinno's attack with 50+ energy. Expanded has infinite altered creation loops.
>>56538610with Kieran you can squeeze in another 30 attack if you're attacking an ex or V pokemom
>>56538610>>56538635Deoxys Vstar with a burn brightly charizard on both sides. Conservative estimate of 45 fires on each active.>90 energy doubled = 180 energy + 1 psychic>181x60 = 10860>add weakness and other multipliers
>>56538635>Standard has slowking copying cinccinno's attack with 50+ energyHow does that work? You can't accelerate Special Energy to Slowking with Gardy right?>>56538657Okay yeah this definitely has a higher damage cap.Now that you mention it, I wonder why Burn Brightly Zard isn't used that much. Sounds like a super broken ability, but it is on a Stage 2 so I kinda get it.
>>56538667>How does that work? You can't accelerate Special Energy to Slowking with Gardy right?You spend 50 turns attaching energy since it's not a real competitive match.
>>56538682Then why bother with Slowking??
>>56538688Standard is not dpp era where a colorless pokemon can hit for weakness.
>>56538695Ah keep forgetting about weakness.That's kinda funny how Colorless is weak to itself. Now if only they bring that back but for Dragon types...
>>56531497Anon tell me>>56532234
>>56532234>>56538754Well shortly after I made the post I found this list which seems fun. I'm actually going to run this as I found a cheap enough copy of the Zapdos deck.Pokémon: 82 Bibarel BRS 1213 Miraidon ex SVI 811 Hawlucha SVI 1182 Regieleki VMAX SIT 582 Bidoof CRZ 1112 Regieleki V SIT 571 Zeraora SIT 561 Zapdos ex MEW 145Trainer: 134 Ultra Ball SVI 1962 Switch SVI 1944 Professor's Research SVI 1901 Earthen Vessel PAR 1634 Electric Generator SVI 1701 Super Rod PAL 1881 Leafy Camo Poncho SIT 1601 Forest Seal Stone SIT 1562 Nest Ball SVI 1813 Bravery Charm PAL 1733 Arven SVI 1663 Boss's Orders PAL 1722 Beach Court SVI 167Energy: 115 Basic {L} Energy SVE 4
>>56536388the massacre continued...
i tried cinderace charizard and had fun, the only problem was somehow not getting enough basics or enough items to set up (2 pidgey, 2 scorbunny, 2 charmander, delphox v and rotom v)
>bots and bloggerswew lad
Any reason I shouldn't build this deck?
>>56539009None, it's fun. The only exclusive cost would be 3x hydrapple, the rest of the cards are used in other decks. It will lose practically nothing to the upcoming rotation so it's not gonna die off like many other archetypes
>>56539009FOLLOW YOUR HEART
[L][C] Protection Code: 40 damage. During your opponent’s next turn, prevent all damage done to your Future Pokémon by attacks from your opponent’s Pokémon ex. If this Pokémon leaves the Active Spot, this effect stops working.>If this Pokémon leaves the Active Spot, this effect stops working.Whats the fucking point in that then LMAO
They sure hate future mon
Intense Assault: 30+ damage. If 1 of your other Ancient Pokémon used an attack during your last turn, this attack does 150 more damage.ancient box still stronk
>>56539407>Majority of the meta is immune to bench damage because lol tera trait>Future gets this shitty thingbruh what do they have against future>>56539479This guy seems decent for moon decks, double colorless means you can continue running all deck. There's a lot of fighting weak mons around for this to be relevant
>>56539009>>56539022>>56539059I ended up going with this. I think it fits me better and I really like this Dipplin's effect against certain decks.
I like pocket tcg do you?
>>56539581I can't play it yet, but I typically prefer full versions of card games rather than cut down ones so I'll probably stick to Live.
>>56539581Haven't bothered with the early access, how does the trading work? Is it friends only?
>>56539581From what I've gathered is more focused around collecting and appreciating the artworks while the game part itself is more secondary. I'm more interested in playing the complete version without cutdowns.
>>56539479>Sandy shocks kicked out of raging bolt
>>56538719>Colorless is weak to itself.thats just because colorless was used as dragon type before dragon type was a thing
>>56539694Shocks can still attack turn 1 and without sada. Koraidon is good for the midgame turns where bolt would typically just rotom/lumineon/fezandipit.i
Been trying to come up with a good way to make dividers for my binders.I did this test laminating wrappers and i think it looks pretty good, but im not sure if laminating all my wrappers from base set-gym heroes is retarded or not.I dont really plan on ever selling the wrappers but i'd hate for the lamination to degrade and ruin them..Wat do?
>>56540001might wanna ask in >>56534985
>>56540001Do not laminate your old wrappers, the adhesive will eventually yellow and crack, might be 2 years might be 15 years, but if you ever want to replace it, you cant, the adhesive has been melted onto the surface of the package, it will tear the ink if you ever try to remove it. Try rigid plastic document holders, theyre typically tight enough to keep them in place without them jostling around.
>>56540063My bad, didnt realize there were different generals.>>56540075Thanks anon, ill try that
>>56539939Could see both being run, but koraidon being able to 2prize ohko stuff like mew, fez, rotom is honestly huge for raging bolt. It lets you cheat the prize mapping putting them on odd prizes
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