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>What is Pokémon Masters EX?
A mobile Pokémon game that's real-time instead of turn-based and focuses on collecting trainers instead of Pokémon.

>Pokemon Masters EX Links and Guides
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18n7Uvdb2_5UgWH-O0DkXHkogNbMkxRiBIaBpCJHIR0A/

>Sync Grid Simulator
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/

>Sync Pair Tracker
https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
https://pokemon.brybry.ch/masters/programme.html

>Model ripping/datamining project (3vp) FAQ
https://pastebin.com/6GWPiFu1

>Upcoming Events
https://pm-events.github.io
https://pastebin.com/u/Absol-utely

>Pokémon Masters EX soundtrack with the latest tracks
https://mega.nz/folder/bwp3iQrY#IiZ1Uxz0xwutZHENqntDeA

>/pmg/ Clears Repository
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJktTrMaNTVHvNz4dsjSmGg/videos

>Trainer Lodge Interaction Charts
https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/1GET825rR31lZD9RWSKDh7gtrHs5_0giA

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>>56733549
depends on the pair obviously. some trainers need those extra numbers
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>>56733723
I poke Masters can fix them with decent looking models because every time I see the mess that SV style is I want to drop pokemon forever
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> Made the 10 year old into a succubus
How did Masters get away with it?
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>>56733546
Cute team
Chart, Eenjoyyy
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>>56733559
>>56733822
Well, old units are the only ones that I can get to 70 anyway.
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>>56733519
Btw here's some Avery Lear destruction for you
https://youtu.be/db8LKnzuCXE?si=qUPDJ4waEbif_vaU
https://youtu.be/U5yiT1sNEJ4?si=fRsX1cQP-G9_v00I
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>>56733893
62-64-66 are usually already a huge deal depending on grid
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I love my cute wife Whitney! She deserves the biggest and warmest hugs because she's the cutest wife in the whole world!
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>>56733381
So what would be his optimal grid anon?
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>>56733928
Hmm, I see.
For now I'll leave them like this and maybe look at something for the sync pairs I like, feels like it's the path of the least regrets.
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>>56733749
masters has low poly models because this shit has to run on potatoes, what are you talkin about nigga?
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>>56733971
I gave Whitney a very special hug last night. It made her feel really happy.
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Did anyone find Jasmine concepts yet
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Hassel when?
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>>56734024
The artstyle retard. Even low poly models on Masters look better than anything from SV
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>>56733971
I want her to lactate on me while I hug her
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>>56734172
yeah bro, I enjoy the gamecube graphics
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Tanktop Rosa alt when
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All aboard (the chort)
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>>56734189
Yes, I can tell from how you're defending SV
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>>56734290
>All aboard
except emmet i guess
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>>56733971
Ethan's defined butt lines...lewd...
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I want to impregnate Whitney and have her husband raise my bastard.
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Cute wife Whitney is on the chart!
She did an oopsie ouchies. She faceplanted into a door she thought was automatic. Again. Silly cute wife! Hugs and kisses and her favorite foods will make her feel better.
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Why is Lusamine so fucking bad Jesus Christ.
She can't pre-sync Karen at+6 and can't take the nuke even with the fucking protection on and of course her endure means jack shit against a sync.
What a fucking lousy old bitch.
Is any of the other free bug units any better?
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>>56735818
Lusamine doesn't have a grid expansion yet so she doesn't have any sync multipliers. You are better off using Guzma since they gave him Towering Force.
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>>56735818
they have shielded iirc.
so you probably couldn't sync with crit.

80% chance to crit a sync or max moves after all.
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my masters meeting up in poke-italy
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Chart Chartanon-Called-Out-Cinderace-Last-Time-So-This-Week-Tina-Gets-Carroted Edition

Yes, I used Comfey Lillie for Grass offense.
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Just found out about the news of New Years 2021

Flint anons, I'm so fucking sorry for you guys
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>>56736727
>Rock bottom + Cinderace EX Role
>Cinderace didn't rank
I was more mean toward Diantha who ranked like a shit pair than the bunny but hey it's still one more Tina so I'll take it.
>>56737260
It's even worse when you think that they could swap Wallace and/or Blacephalon for Flint and Magmortar for the same result a year or two after
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>>56737260
We get EX this week so it’s ok :^)
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>>56736727
>mods just chuck the image and not the post
I wonder why Alolanon doesn't get the same treatment
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Cute wife nap time now. Sweet dreams cutie!
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>>56737885
>he doesn't sleep with his wife
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I still have to do some stuff tonight. I'll join her soon enough.
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>>56738069
Meant to reply
>>56738886
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Super late chart. Still seething over the leaks. I’m glad it was replaced with someone cool like Sabrina at least.
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>>56738886
get your fat udders off me you cow
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>>56737358
NTA but that's a funny coincidence
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My dumbass forgot to post it
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>>56732231
>>56732168
>>56732239
>>56732247
doneza

>>56732264
flint was an adequate 2-turn meatshield o7

>>56732299
>>56732434
did u doublepost ?

>>56732155
>>56732184
what
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i can't believe drake is in this game
i like it
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An excuse to use some of my more recent pairs + mandatory Lillies
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>>56740022
Very cute. Very canon. Thanks :))
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>>56734172
>The artstyle retard
Hate to break it to you, but the Paldea characters get in basically unchanged. Like, I'm pretty sure they took Nemona's model from SV and just dropped it straight into Masters due to how completely off-putting and out of place she is.
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>>56733906
Does it say anything on the lucky skills? I can't tell from the moonrunes. Alternatively, what's the best for them two?
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>>56734654
I believe in husbando monogamy
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Leaks got me interesting in trying out Masters in my spare time, how is it for a newcomer? And is this one of those games where you should only join at a specific time of the month, like with Granblue Fantasy which gives you a minorly better selection in the future for potential dolphin-ing if you joined during the twice a month rate-up fest?
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>>56741392
when you start doesnt really matter, though I will say we just had anniversary, so it'll be a while for those super powerful units to come back.

Right now I'd advise to just do some story missions and reroll on one of the triple pokefair banners or master fair kris, any of those units will comfortably be your strongest while you clear story missions and build up your account.

There are a bunch of different types of free units, so it's newbie friendly in that regard (you dont have to immediately spend money to play).

It's a relatively low maintenance/daily mission type gacha though, so dont expect a ton of gameplay after beating the story.
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Arceus averts its eyes in disgust
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>>56741446
Are the triple pokefairs the end-of-the-month SSR rate up thing, or do they only come up a couple times a year? Was checking the OP and it seems like it's the latter, but I know that gacha games tend to not reveal what exactly is happening months in the future.
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>>56741720
pokefair is a type of limited banner. You cant get these units again when the banner disappears (until they are inevtiably rerun). Most of the units in this game are limited and most non-limited units can be acquired through the free region/general tickets
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>>56741354
I spy with my little eye, Acerola's clitty.
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>>56741888
Ah, so there's a variety of specific banners with ones focused around the freebies rather than all using the same resource for all pulls. I liked that a lot about Nikke, though it ran like ass on my phone so it didn't work well for me.

My last annoying newfaggot question is how bad are the bottom of the barrel characters, and how good are the top of the top, relatively speaking? I understand in a gacha basically everything will be passable for story or event purposes, and my days of tryharding PVP events basically died with with my 12 hour a day grind in 2019 Granblue, but from my very short digging around it seems like the game has you tend to focus more on building the characters rather than the weapons, or in this case Pokemon, which has me worried that I could just fuck myself in the reroll process by not getting much to carry me if that makes sense.
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>>56742089
the units we got last month trivialize most content by themselves while the f2p or year 1 units will struggle with even basic weekly content unless supported by one of the newer enablers. It's your classic gacha power creep.

There's no pvp though and recently the focus has been more on having a varied roster vs a single stupidly strong team. There's also no pvp, so there's no point metafagging. Any unit you get from any of the pokefairs will comfortably be able to carry you even at a single copy (you typically want 3 copies to unlock a character's full skill tree)

also your questions are not annoying, feel free to keep asking them :)
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>>56741125
Depending on situation you want vigilance or CS2 on Avery if he needs to tank after main supp dies

For lear, CS2 on all clears.
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What's this about characters having personal lucky skills?
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>>56742089
No worries and no pressure.

The game is really accessible as even freebie shitters still can carry in any non giga endgame content (which btw doesn't give scout currency in any meaningful quantity anyway).

The rates are some of the best and differ on banner type
- seasonals have fixed 2% on first run and then have shitty 0.5-0.25% reruns, but rerun yearly and have the best piggy selects (1 multi worth of paid gems = guaranteed unit of choice) and have the best outfits but age the worst USUALLY meta wise
- pokefairs are 2% and are usually the most variable units, which keep getting buffed so almost non of them (there's 70) is actually shit
- Master fairs are 1% and are usually the crème de la crème units of the type, and cover most bases of what you'd want in a unit, but rerun rarely and can sometimes be just not as good as a fully invested pokefair
- arc suit pairs are basically master fairs on crack, but out of the 3 we got 2 months ago, 1 is op but really wants 3-5/5 (which requires huge investment), one is broken 1/5 already and one is kinda shit (this is meta wise) so they're very hit or miss

I'm the kind of guy who spent 70k in 2 seasonal in a master fairs heavy month and never complained because outfits > everything else for me. New players should scout a meta unit or two at the start to be sure to keep up, but content as was already said is varied enough and without PvP there's no reason to fully focus on meta anyway, so out of the 300k gems we get yearly (which is 9-10 pities' worth) you can invest most of them in yoir waifus or husbandos and not meta
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>>56742208
They're new things they started putting out last year alongside custom gear feathers, most of them suck, but some are actually really really good (i.e. Rika, fall Caitlin, kiawe, Rosa)
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>>56742208
Each character has 1-3 passive skills inherent to the unit. Some characters, usually the new ones for the month, get a cookie that's personally for them, and it can give them a skill outside of the lucky skill list. And then at the end of this month, note that this is speculation, there might be a change to move levels, and if you max those out, you'll give the character an additional skill. But this will not apply to characters in the general pool. As if they don't need something like that.
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>>56742254
>>56742258
Ok, but how does it work? Is it the usual gacha with purple cookies like when I left or do you need a "more special" cookie to get it?
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>>56742287
they're unique cookies you get from events as rewards
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>>56742287
They're guaranteed from events (either shop or by the new step point system rewards)

Example: Caitlin's is in the old Halloween event rerun box, just like the custom feathers
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If you could ask the ruler of Pasio for one thing, what would you ask for?
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>>56742146
>>56742229
Thanks for all the info then anons, I'm kinda glad there's no real PVP aspect because that kinda stuff triggers my grinding autism but I think I've got all my obvious questions outta the way. I'll probably start rerolling later today or tomorrow.
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>>56742352
>>56742357
I see, and I guess that they are yet to be rerun too.
Halloween Caitlin's cookie still available, right? I have her so it would be nice to get it, I remember not finding a good lucky skill for her because she already had a lot of stuff in her natural kit.
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>>56742499
Oh actually this talk on Halloween has me wondering, is the triple fair stuff going on right now that ends on the 25th the Halloween banner, or will there be a Halloween banner starting after that? I actually forgot it was that time of the year...
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>>56742561
Halloween units are categorized as seasonals and not pokefairs. They're separate banners that are currently running (Iono and Shauntal).

Iono will also easily carry you through content, Shauntal probably too, but I dont have her so I cant really comment
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>>56742588
Oh I was wondering why I saw a buncha green-ish Iono art on my feed over the past few days, shit I might have to start rerolling for her today then.
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aight. letsee your master fair luck.

Anni lillie : pitied on her 1st rerun. i rolled on her debut banner as well. 2/5 at least.
Anni N : Skip
Anni Steven : Pity.

Ash : 6 multis
SST Red : 2 multis
aura cynthia : 3 multis

nc red : paid pity.
nc blue : 7 paid multis
nc leaf : 3 paid multis

arc cynthia : 6 multis
arc steven : 10 multis
arc lance : skip
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>>56742499
If I can give you some banner and unit reroll recommendation:
#1 the gauntlet banner (WHICH ENDS TOMORROW so you'd need to reroll today) as it has Rei, an incredibly amazing unit at base copy count, with amazing DPS and great sync nuke, alt gloria, that covers 3 types in 1 because of type change (and both flying and fighting have very mediocre freebies), plus Sygna suit Hilbert can also cover multiple bad starting types (electric, ice, bug especially). Easily the best banner of the month imo.

#2 the Sygna suit N, Sygna Suit Roxie and Kabu banner, as N can patch your immediate ice needs while synergizing greatly with the f2p ice king (ghetsis) and ignoring stage gimmicks that can be extremely annoying for new players, Roxie is all around a fantastic unit for both poison and electric and kabu is a fine limited support with pretty good anti gimmick checking (he's lower worth over the other 2 imo tho)

#3 probably Sygna suit Kris (master fair) just because she's still an amazing unit after 2.5 years, and supports are extremely more valuable than damage units in PoMa. Still idk if it's worth doing more than a first multi reroll on MFs because odds are extremely lower than triple pokefairs (4.5% featureds Vs 1%) so it can be a burnout, but she's a pretty good second choice if #1 and #2 become unavailable.

Another thing is that you could also just stock up gems for December, but saving and getting shafted would hurt A LOT so idk. December will 100% have rerunning master fairs, new master/arc fairs so that period is gonna be prime rerolling/investing time for new accounts

Once you're done rerolling take your shiny limited and give it a spin in story and legendary adventures, that's where you'll obtain a ton of freebies and gems to scout. The economy rn is around 2/3 of a pity per month and while rates are really good in this game, scouting without 36k (pity worth) ready is a really bad
idea, especially early on.
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>>56742607
If she's fave you can definitely go for her. I didn't include seasonals in my recommendation as they're not a good meta reroll option but if a seasonal is a fav character getting them on their first release is key as the seasonal reruns are the biggest scam the game throws at players
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>>56742713
Iono is also just good
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Yu Sasaki is completely dead
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>>56742728
She's fine, for a new player rebuff units are huge tho, so definitely not the worst seasonal pick
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>>56742414
Please, erase Paldea.
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>>56741354
No wonder this gacha is a flop because they are targeting a despicable audience like you. That happens when the idiots Dena and Gamefreak think 4chan is the window to the world.
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>>56742662
Leon pity, gave two candies, got a 401/400 misclick, now stuck at 4/5
Maxie, 7th multi
Lillie, first multi
N, first daily
SS lusamine & renegade cynthia, 10th multi
Serena, two copies at 7th multi
Lyra second multi
9/400 kris
Tbolt red 7th multi
NC Serena 1/400
Pity calem
Pity NC Marnie
Pity NC hop (got a copy on 11th and 12th multi)
NC Bede 10th multi
Irida 2 multi
3 multi NC red
Pity NC blue
Pity NC Rosa (copy on 12th multi)
Geeta first multi
Pity NC silver
Pity on cheren and Bianca
2/400 SS nemona
SS lear 7th multi
11/500 arc Steven
Pity arc Cynthia
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>>56742499
If you like the units up right now by all means go ahead and reroll, but there's gonna be a datamine either friday or monday. Should be some very very nice stuff being revealed since its Christmas time and they'll start giving out more gems than they normally do. If I was starting right fuarking now I would go ape shit on those gauntlet banners because a lot of them wont rerun for a FAT minute.
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>>56741354
The fruits of Alola
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>>56742830
I wish we got more Mina instead of garbage like Acerola
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>>56742414
Add Miror B.
Can’t believe Hex Maniac made it before him.
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Weekly Johto 15k CSMM clear for the chart. "Trick or treat" edition.
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Fuck bug types.
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>>56743612
Your ss hilbert? Your b.emmet? Your sc barry?
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>>56733674
Where is my hex maniac event??
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>>56743654
I only roll for cute girls and needy old hags.
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>>56733971
Why are you cucking yourself with Ethan anon?
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>>56741354
MOOOOOOOOOOODDDSSSSS
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>>56743612
>>56743679
>janine/oleana + [bp erika, skyla, alcremie, misty, sp misty, lillie, l lillie, l iono, bp olivia]
oldest stadium cheese teams
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>>56742940
But Pokémon Masters is aimed at coomers and pedos, that's why they milk Acerola even though nobody asks for her.
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>>56743697
I bet she makes a harem out of her followers, has a relationship with her moderators, and has sex with them when they meet offline.
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>>56741354
yummy :3c
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>>56744072
I bet she [Coomer Headcanon]
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>>56743686
He's just aiming to be the next pl, but he's pw with ethan as his chosen avatar.
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>>56744418
Don't call me pw
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>>56743612
Bro, just unga bunga off type
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>>56744418
He really is lmao like Red being the avatar for that other guy.
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>>56741354
This is too much...
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>>56742414
How did you get so huggable
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>>56742680
>>56742713
I spent a good hour earlier today rerolling for Iono but didn't get her, which blows but thankfully she's not the one on the banner thats ending today? Thanks for all the tips regardless anons.
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>>56744725
yeah iono banner will be around for a while. good luck anon
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>>56744636
But I just want to show my cute wife some physical affection...
Just look, isn't she just so lovely?
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>>56744829
Increase her bust
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>>56744829
Make her hug her friend Jasmine instead, or make her hug a large Normal Type Pokemon like Blissey
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>>56744851
She's perfect the way she is!
>>56744883
Good idea. So long as I don't draw strong similarities to the other guy
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>>56744900
>She's perfect the way she is!
She needs to be milked
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>>56742414
Aaaaaa look how smug he is

Our prince is so handsome and important
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Chart is here ! This week the rivalry between Irida and Acerola continue as the little girl got a new top spot with Tapu Bulu !

Side notes :
- TINA IS AT 9 FOR THE FIRST TIME OF THE YEAR THANK YOU BUT WE NEED MORE NOW ! SHE CAN BE AT 10 ! No but really thank you it keep me motivated !
-Outisde Tina Ac Lance got his best result for now (Previous best was 2 at W38 and I wish I was joking)
-Normal ranking for Fall Shauntal but Iono got a good result. A bit sad for Shauntal because only ghost have another stage for this month.

Next week first rank :
>6EX
Yu Sasaki and Infernape
>Grid Update
Lillie and Clefairy

New pairs
Tierno and Flittle
Trevor and Florges (White) (same moveset please understand)

As always you can still post your clear. And I hop there are no mistake. I'm pretty ill today. See you next week !
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>>56745252
>Tierno and Flittle
YOU WHAT??
Also death to brats
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>>56745252
>literature loses out to attention span fried zoomer streamer
Many such cases now.
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>>56745252
>ranking ugly green Dragonite instead of cute, pink Dratini
profound sadness
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The leaks just confirm the obvious, they broke the NY themed edition, not sure if its a fucked up decision or a way to make you spend more completing the duos every year.
Only Dawn + Lisia made sense as duo and story wise, maybe not even them but Lisia + Wallace could have been a better choice.
Lisia & Wallace
Lance & Clair
Volkner & Flint (2025)
Lillie & Dawn or Lillie & Sabrina
Lillie/Dawn/Sabrina + ______ (2025)
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>>56745252
Is Sasaki going to be EX’d on the chart going forward in memory? Hope you feel better and thanks for shart as always
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>Victor has to help ME prepare the stew!
>No, Victor has to help ME bake the apple pie!
>Marnie, help me!
>...Yer on yer own, bloke.
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>>56745252
What's a pair gotta do to get listed in the bottom tier?
On-type for the CS?
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>>56745252
>2 Petrel
Noooo, I am no longer unique!
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>>56745252
>6 Arc Cynthia
>1 Lucario Cynthia
>all other Cynthia at 0 despite being on-type
Yeah, we all sure love that character, huh

>>56745948
So are there all sorts of alt outfits and lewd ones like MMD usually has?
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>>56741392
It's not very time consuming most of the time but it's also not that good of a game. Don't recommend it at all. If you wanted to join do it during anniversary or right after a datamine near the end of the month.
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>>56746354
What if I also cherish other characters?
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Whitney Anon they robbed her of her cat face.
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>>56745948
Lol
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real or fake?
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>>56746617
>Alder being both 57 and 69
Must be a Force thing
>African, British and Egyptian mentioned
The fuck are those?

Reads fake and gay
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>>56746354
I don't know about lewd. The person I found that converts most of the models to MMD has the alt costumes and EX colors for the ones they have available
Which makes me realize I haven't used my cute wife in her Xmas outfit yet
>>56746543
That's ok. She has it in a few other media, like her Masters Xmas outfit or that GOTCHA music video
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>>56746354
>Yeah, we all sure love that character, huh
Well, she lives rent free in your head
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>>56746617
They're just tidbits of the initial drafts for the character's design and scenario.
They're real, but they're incomplete and not necessarily the aspects they settled on.
>>56746687
Second Alder is supposed to be Drayden iirc
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>>56746617
Fits with all the leaked character bios we've seen. Drayden is the last on the list, stupid discorder fucked up.
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>>56742414
My husband's hand in marriage
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>>56746617
>10yo female haxorus
HNNNNNNGGG
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>>56745958
That or get 0 uses when they get their EX (Role)
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>>56746354
>Yeah, we all sure love that character, huh
who?
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>Egyptian Iris
Makes sense imo. Isn't Iris like an Egyptian-ish name?
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Huh so apparently there was masters leaks? But all I can find is a map of pasio and it being based off italy. Is that all it was?
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>>56745766
Yes
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>>56746617
>skyla daughter of immigrants
LOL
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>>56748690
https://x.com/centroleaks/status/1848356157120794818
https://x.com/centroleaks/status/1848365686407475598
https://x.com/centroleaks/status/1848366393298764087
https://x.com/centroleaks/status/1848477928818135267
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>>56742414
Give Bianca a cute alt with shorts and no long sleeve top.
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>>56748756
Theyre all blank for me? Says an error occurred loading this image
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>>56746767
are the models look like they dont have any bones?
or do you grab it from mikumikuknight?
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>>56748852
Oh I guess he deleted them. Sorry, I didn't double check the links since I got them from the server I'm in.
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>>56740130
Unironically one of the people I wanted to see most out of the initial batch. A shame he's pretty bad and doesn't do much but he's in the Center like everyone else at least.

>>56742089
Adding to this, the weekly modes difficulties are all customizable and largely frozen in time. The Elite 4 battle rotations was last updated... February 2023 with Kalos, it looks like?. So that gives you some degree of leeway, and means most units from 2022 or so onwards are still relevant in at least that context, since the content never entirely outgrew them. Nearly all types have at least one (many two or three, even) strong giveaway or F2P attackers sufficient for them, provided you get a couple of dupes to let you max out their skill trees and get them to rank 6 (EX) to power up their super moves. Most of the F2P units will eventually get pushed out when you dial the difficulty high enough, but many of them also have enough going on to justify including or even Karenfagging them if you really want to. (Pic very related)
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>>56748852
Download the folder from /ppg/
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>>56749350
Bro I'm not downloading a terabyte of data
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>>56749420
The leaks are brokem down and the folder is 1.4GB. you can;t download 1.4GB?
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>>56740130
>>56748956
To this day, Drake's setup for his pair hurts me. I'm pretty sure he was available from when the game first launched, and it shows.
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>>56746354
One of these unused units is utterly outclassed by a different one with the same Pokemon
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i got mimikyu!
but had to complete the scout pick
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>2 single target damage challenges
Rough
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Had to retry rock and fire a couple times because syncs wouldn't crit at all but I guess for such a rough sparring it can't be helped
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>>56733674
>lillie and clefairy sync upgrade
when is that?
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>>56750336
Always on PoMa day (25th of every month)
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Chances for Koraidon & Miraidon Master Fairs next month?
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>>56750363
Pretty low unless they have arc pairs lined up for December and have to push their master fairs up earlier
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>>56750363
Non-canon in anime so non-canon in Masters.
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>>56750363
0

November doesn't have master fairs. If anything December could have them, but NC Hoenn or Alola have been in line for ages too so I'd expect those to be the Dec MFs
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>>56750381
To be precise, I meant November doesn't have NEW master fairs. I'm expecting irida & adaman exr rerun for Eevee day and/or master day probably
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Lucky me, got him in one multi
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>>56745958
On type with 0 use and the new pairs/upgrade that didn't rank like Cinderace last week
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Is there any point in rolling for non-arc suits masterfairs now? (Aside from obviously liking the character)
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>>56750617
Arc fairs aren't inherently da best of their types. Look at Lance. There's no difficulty ceiling high enough to justify going for 1% and 500 pity for him over either NC Nate or just 5/5ing your lance or 3/5ing a SS Cynthia imo

Because of this, MFs and PFs have still the same exact value as before arc reveal, until the arc unit of their type is revealed
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>>56750716
>1% and 500 pity
Uhh??? They have lower rates and higher ceiling too?
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>>56750721
Yeah, 1% as MFs and 3 more multi for pity, meaning shafts are effectively 2 months worth of gems

If anything this disincentivized me in scouting them, as they're likely gonna ask for twice as much as a pokefair or seasonal to be gotten, while having much less unique outfit or kit
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>>56750901
This mode is doggy doo
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>>56751300
500 is pretty much 46k gems, right? That's fucking rough, man.
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>>56750721
its basically master fair rate, but 500 sync point pity.

you better be prepared when they drop.
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>>56750375
???
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>>56750363
next month?
probably just pokefairs for koraidon.

miraidon is probably reserved for turo or the sv protags.
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>>56750237
>ghost damage challenge
>special attack power greatly reduced
Guess I'm stuck with Morty.
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When?
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>>56753403
Eventually, probably as SCs, considering how we now have 2 polestars tie in, movie themed SC events. I have 73k gems ready since forever for them
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>>56750716
>until the arc unit of their type is revealed
Or, in Cynthia and Steven's case, until Sentry Entry x2 UBs weak to their types drop
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The system of being able to leave repeat likes on the same picture daily is so strange. At first I was happy to leave a like every day on everyone in my friends list, but whenever you receive a like, you don't know if the person is just fishing for a return like (most likely when it's some rando with a huge like count) or genuinely liking your new picture. Or just thinking you're trying to fish and liking you back to be polite.
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>>56753755
Is there even a way to turn that off? I'd rather not get any likes or views from anyone.
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>>56753755
sick mental gymnastics award about a light version of a poke-instagram
just put a like back if you feel to, or ignore
high count likes won't even find you if you are below 15K likes unless they are actually interested and used search tools for specific parameters
people can tell you in real life how they like your shirt without meaning it just to be polite sometimes, you can never tell
most accurate appreciation measure too is probably looking at their profile and do the math: fav region, fav characters and mons, fav type of characters if it fits those in your pic, coomer or femoid, ashnime fan, mangafan, shipper, etc then most likely that profile likes the trainers in your photo or just finds it nice
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>>56753755
Didn't you unlock a title if you give 1000 like or something?
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>>56748869
Hey, you found the source of where I get the models!
Importing them to MMD has all the textures and bones already done. There are some things I wish they had but these models are very servicable already
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>>56753755
Well it makes sense when you consider you can change the profile pic whenever
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Update to a non-shit icon when?
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>>56755217
That happened 9 days ago. Have you not updated your app?
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>>56748724
>mfw she basically flew over the border
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>>56755217
>Update to a non-shit icon when?
I want Goddess Cynthia icon back ...
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>>56755217
>iphonefags cant change their icons
LMAO
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>>56754607
Its a bit hard controlling the models. And movement in the 3d space of mmd is awkward. I only really used maya after all
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/pmg/, caption this image
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>>56756997
i doubt she'd get in, but "LETS GO!"
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I know this was a thread a while back but:
What's the current state of PMEX? Is it hell on earth or just flat out boring?
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>>56757522
hmm, its currently saving period. Master Fairs will be coming around Late November. Its either Arc units again, or Neo Champions (hoenn or sinnoh, take your poison)

This week Legendary Gauntlet 17 has finished yesterday, and now we're all duking it out for score in Damage Challenge : Super Sparring, FireSingle, GhostMulti (Physical Ghosts recommended) and RockSingle (No Status Conditions/Interference allowed).

We're going to get Palmer Event Rerun, so that's good for gems.

Next month we'll get Eevee Ticket, so get in, get your free tickets, and get shafted.

Also, Steel/Fighting HSE in November.

This November is also going to be make or break for Poke Fairs who have 5/5 move levels.
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>>56756007
We can THOUGH
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>>56742823
This and add Galar.
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>>56753823
That's fine, just take a pic with your least favorite character
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>>56757595
that anon here, logged back in and got dumped with 17k gems so that was fun.

I might save until Klara comes around again cause I'm not entirely interested in the meta or current banners (Outside of maybe Kris for similar reasons)
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>>56758476
They upped the free gems that the first story mode hands up by 15k~ish right before anniversary and it is retroactive as you saw, twas a present for everybody.
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>>56758476
Cool!
Its best to save a pity for rainy days.
Otherwise, its going to be very itchy.
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Can someone tell me what shoes Bellelba has on under the dress?
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I got baited by the 72 hours pokefair and it raped me.
Now I have 2 questions, are the ice dude and the normalfaggot from Paldea good?
And why is everybody from that game limited?
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>>56759644
>And why is everybody from that game limited?
Players learned that there's no benefit to rolling on anything in the general pool since you could potentially get spooked by those characters on limited banners so Dena started making 99% of the new characters added limited. With Paldea being the newest mainline they want to force players to pull in case they miss out on any future content that might need them
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>>56759766
Well, that's frankly shitty
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>>56759364
black normally.
bluish green when ex.
based on her model.
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>>56759644
Larry is pretty great, he's very similar to sc Steven in terms of enabling units, while also doing damage and nuking hard on his own too

Grusha is fine, saved by the fact he's one of the extremely few ice supoorts
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>>56759644
Are you new? This game has an absurd in game economy that keeps spiraling out of control. They basically keep devaluing all their different banner types and give less gems than they used to to try to force people to spend money. They made up these extremely low effort limited banners called variety scouts that are almost entirely recycled content. Everyone is limited for no good justifiable reason. They pretty much stopped trying to justify it 2 years in. Incompetence and greed.
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>>56760081
> He's still pissed at variety after they got basically discontinued

Goddamn, I was happy about them because they were easy skips which diluted banner priority, you guys just don't see the vision.

Also pokefairs and master fairs are just as valuable as ever, if anything arc pairs started with a very low value for any non whale? And I bet you'd complain if your fave was malva'd instead of being limited but good anyway. The gem economy was awful until Anni, now it's back to decent rate. If you think a 4 new 2% limiteds per average month with 2/3 of a pity rate is incompetent or greedy you have no awareness of what the gacha business model looks like
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>>56759644
wow, you got scammed. that banner is a scam. even if you have pity, there's so many options, you have to go for favourites there or UBERs.
But you typically need copies.
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>>56760266
Last month had 2 of them. Next month is going to have probably 2 more on top of rerunning the old ones. I don't know where you're getting this idea of variety scouts being dead. Most likely damage challenge won't give gems anymore so that's less monthly gems.

Spotlights wouldn't have been devalued if they didn't create master fair banners and scout tickets. People didn't have any problem rolling spotlights until DeNA actively decided to deincentivise it. There are plenty of games that don't end up like this and actually handle the pools properly. I don't know why they think spotlights are such a huge problem when I didn't get any of last year's until the anniversary when ticket pools updated. If they sucked it up and kept adding spotlights anyways the rates would be so low you'd have to roll a dedicated banner and maybe people would actually want to roll them. It's not the players' fault they decided on this regional ticket shit. The normal tickets would have been fine on their own since the odds of getting 1 specific character is pretty low. The "generosity" is what bit this game in the ass and reversing course or milking harder just pisses off players.

Pokefairs are currently being devalued because how often they get rerun with okay odds in shared banners and how the game is actually comfortable giving them away sometimes. The game doesn't give holidays or Master Fairs away. And holiday reruns have much shittier rates than Pokefair reruns. You are more likely to get a Pokefair you missed than any other non spotlight banner type.
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>>56760422
> Spotlights wouldn't have been devalued if they didn't create master fair banners and scout tickets

They were already a 0 value banner in 2020? They're literally the one and only banner that's always a skip no matter what. They're basically dead on arrival. With a game that gave 15-18k gems a month and a pokefair coming out once a month, they stopped being worth shit already around january 2020.
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>>56760422
I genuinely don't see how pokefairs being
- usually still strong enough to carry in UBs
- usually good 1/5 with huge spike at 3 or 5/5 (we'll see with new power boost mechanic) and the old 3/5 power boost helping the oldies
- their reruns are common for some units but not for others, especially some newer pokefairs can go a year without any rerun, and often get a very varied mixed bag with old PFs that aren't interesting, so this variance helps pickup different tastes and keeping people from skipping first run, while still teasing old slippers with reruns
Is a "devaluation"
They're the most consistent banner, with double to quadruple featured rate than MFs, who are still often stronger but not always enough to justify the risk.
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>>56733906
Asking about this again, because I'm too new to figure it out myself. What would be some good substitute supports for Rosa? I realized that by pulling only for character I like I ended up with no expensive support units, so I will be on lookout for these from now on I guess.

also, what good teamcomps can I run with Maxie/SS Gio/Ghetsis? These are my other high investment units, I'd like to have some fun with them once I get bored of running Avery.
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>>56760695
The lack of rebuffs and SMUN definitely will be felt, but probably can work with NC Bede? Or maybe aura Cynthia just because of her boring 1tap TM + potions
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>>56760815
I will probably pull for whatever gets a rerun first then. Rosa would be optimal but if it takes me a year of waiting thats sorta pointless.
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>>56760695
Maxie and ssgio are sadly very hard to run as they're ontype units with conditionals for short clears (which is why Lucy UB was so easy too) so I really can't say they work well at all ATM

Ghetsis has decent matchup with irida and SS N depending on stages, but he's also a unit that really likes NC Rosa...
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>>56760828
That's unfortunate, but thanks anyway.
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>>56760695
maxie you can run with ss erika + ss blue.
ghetsis would want to run with skyla + ss blue
ss giovanni would want to run with leaf (for gauge) + sabrina (for crit)

read their kits, its basically a puzzle
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>>56760836
Don't get me wrong, in most content ghetsis, Maxie and ssgio will still perform very fine, I assumed we were talking about UBs.

If not, rika ground zone can definitely help ssgio, just like SC Lyra does with rebuff.
Maxie appreciates more units like SS acerola or ssmorty instead
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>>56760852
I approve these suggestions too.

Ssgio and Maxie definitely want speed buffing supports and/or heavy gauge acceleration units in general, while Avery + lear wants defence buffs mostly, speed is less of an issue for them I think
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>>56760852
>>56760859
This is nice, and seems budget friendly. Thanks for this, I'll go with these choices.
>>56760854
I'm talking about general, I guess. It'll be a while since I can challenge the serious endgame content I imagine. so far I've been fucking around doing nothing but amassing gems etc. for Avery, since I had no idea what he'll even be good with once he finally comes out, so I got decent amounts of currency to spend now that I wanna actually build teams. I'll keep those in mind for when I'm actually equipped for UBs though.
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>>56760887
Skyla, sycamore, misty, registeel, Dana, Morgan , crobat Janine, Phoebe, BP Cheryl, BP Olivia, Hilbert, Lyra, nidoak, leaf, lodge wally are all solid newbie supports that's fine investing into at the start imo. They work on most teams, and Lyra is especially fine with Maxie because of sun synergy.
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>>56759644
>And why is everybody from that game limited?
Everyone there gets an OC donut steel B-move and apparently it's an unspoken rule that B-move units all have to be pokefairs at bare minimum
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>>56746617
I'm gonna need Pokemon to show more of its world than just battles and battle based economies. CLEARLY firearms and self defense classes serve a purpose and they keep waffling on whether or not language gaps exist.
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>>56760887
if you want to run ss gio to the max, run him with Fall Roxanne (she doesnt eat gauge), get him to 3/5 and EXR.

Any tank would help, NC Blue for example.

Same for Maxie, but you can run him with SS Morty. And Courtney or Rika as your sides. Typically i have him 2/5 and i gave him his EXR, but mostly for Rally.

For Ghetsis, NC Blue helps with everything he needs. All you need is an Ice Zone user. If you get his Power Boost + EX, NC Blue should still be useable for him.

When you're down low, and you have 2 or so pities around, and on a month where you dont have a favourite, and a month has a pair that might help your roster, that could be considered when you roll or skip a month/banner or something.

Just be sure to not roll without pity, you'll get a lot of negatives.
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>>56759925
Are they flat or high heels? I appreciate the help
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>>56761038
My Gio is already 5/5 EX, the few units I pulled for, I pulled for with dedication.
By pity I assume you mean "Do not roll until you have enough gems to get a guarantee on the specific banner", right? Or is there another pity system in this game?
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How long does it take to get one of those cake rolls for the extra roles?
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>>56761076
basically that. people forget that pity exists.

>>56761062
has heels. looks like thigh high heels.
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>>56761083
in a vacuum.
for daily tickets, 100 days for 1 cake of your choice.
for daily region rotation, 100 days for 5 cakes. (its on rotation, strike -> tech -> support -> sprint -> field)
for battle rally, if you managed to get 24000 rally points each month, you get 20 cake coin vouchers + 1 voucher for clearing battle rally each week.

So around 1 cake + 4 to 5 cake coin vouchers per month.

Events will also give you cake coins.

If you roll on the paid banners, you get cake.
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>>56761091
What's the exact gem number for pity? 32k?
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>>56761091
Excellent, thank you very much
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>>56761091
Why not flip her completely upside down? Is there a void under her dress?
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>>56761232
normal banners, 400 pity, 36,600 gems.

arc units, 500 pity, about 45,600 gems.
>>56761242
its basically a void.
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>>56761250
I knew it's either 32 or 36. Thanks.
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>>56759364
Sneakers
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>>56760978
Your recolor AnniLillie?
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>>56759364
Boots, I think. They're not flats or dress shoes of any kind.
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How did the Villain arc end again?
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>>56762050
Giovanni lost thanks to everyone else coming together to beat him. Paulo learns to stop being retarded after his dog turns orange & Gio does the “I’ll be back” shtick
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>>56762063
Well that's a team rocket ending alright
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chance of update this reset?
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>>56760978
At this point Pokefair now means unique sync animation because they refuse to make those for 90% of the rest of the game. Or Dynamax animation even though that's just recycled content too. People will kiss the ground that DeNA walks on for presenting them low effort dogshit content. If fucking Kofu and Ryme are Pokefair there's not going to be a single non limited Paldea.
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>>56762871
50% since CS data for next Monday is already added
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>>56763192
The huggablest
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>>56762050
Cynthia lost to Giovanni despite being also carried by Steven and Lance.
They got one shot by Giovanni's Nidoking, Mewtwo and temporary Hoopa.
This is the second time she loses in Masters.
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>>56764432
Cool but that’s not the ending.
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Guys, help!!!
My cute wife brought home some weird mochi last night and felt sick after dinner. This morning she started doing this weird dance! She's been doing this all day and she only keeps asking for more mochi!
What do I do?!
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>>56764883
Put'er down, it's for the best so that it doesn't spread
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>>56764883
Sorry, but she has a terminal case of Fortnitetus. I’m afraid we’ll have to put her down.
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>>56761313
>>56761925
sexo if true
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>>56764883
Create a trip called PlayfulWhitney!
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>>56764930
>>56764968
No! I could never do that to my cute wife, I love her so much! I can fix her!
>>56765192
But why?
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>>56765235
The only cure is raw sex and gallons of semen. It has to come from multiple sources tho as only one sample won't be strong enough to cure her
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>>56765235
Your funeral, remember that Fortnitetus is also an STD. Stick it in and you’ll be zoomin too
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In case datamine happens tonight, I'm going to put my last minute crackpot theory and say maybe we get Jasmine and Forretress/Ferrothorn. Both just got added into the game's files. Jasmine has gotten 1 new unit each year since her debut, with all of her units outside of her debut being released in the October-December time frame
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>>56765660
I'm wondering if the new Sawsbuck form means we'll get Miriam soon
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>>56765660
Summoning the RNG gods and praying for you, also have reason to believe those mons will get in given that we have steel/fight HSE coming up and it'd be a good way to tempt people
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>>56765660
If she gets a new unit and they rerun her old ones I may actually have to buy into this garbage, feels disgusting.
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Datamine?
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>>56766278
No lol maybe Monday
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>>56766320
It's literally the 25th right now you tard
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my bet is the femboy with scarf and glaceon for the eeve day
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>damage challenge no longer gives gems
I fucking KNEW it. God I miss battle villa and the actually good blissful bonanza.
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God this team is so fucking overkill and I love it
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Awyeah, it's Geetin Time
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>>56766924
wow you're smart finding out about the first time reward gems
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how have my twins gotten alts but no ex yet, I wanna have 6EX with them so bad.
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>>56765660
Trainer files unit, no new costume if so
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Are any of the training ticket units good?
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>>56767489
The field ones could help if you need their thing
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>>56767145
>snot and scat ex colors
no, thanks
i'd rather have the gen 3 teal colors
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>>56767489
Gladion, Nemo, Silver are great
Hugh is very nice
Blue is decent
The rest is gauntlet niche fodder
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>>56743612
Use stall
BP Erika / Janine / SS Leaf
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NGL thought the guzma clear would've taken way more tries, but RNG gods blessed me
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>>56767686
>Blue is decent
Actually he's the only good Sprint out there that can have easy set up sync and an acceptable damage dealer, as well as refreshable TM sync countdown exploit.
Silver and Hugh come second for utility being a decent debuffers, Field units without EXR are more than often inferior to Sprint but if they can have useful and easy disrupting tools they can still shine.
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Is there a tierlist or something for the BP units? Mainly the natural 5* ones.
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>>56767489
only marnie and nemona, the rest are fujobaits for faggots, hope there would be something good next month
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>>56767882
Dana>Morgan>>>>registeel
/Evelyn>Nita>other 5* MCs>regirock
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>>56767876
Yeah but like fielders, EXr-less blue is very shit, and while there's no free ice/rock/flying/dark zoner, there are some sprint alternatives to him
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Marnie is legit the shittiest of all because she is a poor men's DPS that needs babysitting while she eats gauge for some spare damage, the Focus Blast bonus coverage has to compete with MC Solgaleo and its multipliers too.
Marnie's only decent units are her NC Moltres and Palentine Mawile that has been powercrept by Selene, AS Steven and A2 Lillie, her lodge is trash, Summer goblin mogged hard by later release fairies and her Morpeko is a total meme.
This is interesting because Nemona has the same trend with total bait pokefair and masterfair banners followed by average freebies. This is also true for Shauna, her DC unit might even be better than her gacha ones.
What we have learned from this is that female rivals in Pokemon were a mistake.
>>56768033
Beside A2 Lillie, there are no free Field units that can summon a field effect whenever you feel like, instead it's the on-entry pointless type field effect or only on sync. Easily the least enjoyable kits to play with even if they cover some missing freebie zones and terrains or extra weather, a Sprint that has native Headstart or Sync Accelereration on TM still has more benefits for the team in my opinion.
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>>56768028
Ok, should I focus on getting one copy of each relevant one first, or I better take the girls and registeel to 3/5 first?
Using the candies on free characters seems like a huge waste after all.
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>>56767143
People were coping that it would always give gems and the first time bonuses would be reset
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>>56768138
1/5 Dana, Morgan and steel
Then 3/5 either Dana or Morgan
Registeel ain't worth 3/5ing
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>>56766352
Oh look at that no data mine. RETARD
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>>56766924
>DC just resets after all this time
How anticlimactic
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>>56769466
Bullshit, Tierno would have been able to dance his way out of this.
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>>56769636
What if he's not affected and just vibing?
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Some of these are near-certain, but this seems fairly on point overall.
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>>56769748
Normal: Whitney/Miltank
Fire: Tina
Water: Juan/Luvdisc
Electric: Jasmin/Ampharos
Grass: Rosa/Smugleaf
Ice: Pryce
Fighting: Cynthia (Aura)
Poison: Lucy
Flying: Kahili
Psychic: Liza
Bug: sy
Rock: Diantha
Ghost: Cynthia (Renegade)
Dark: Rachel
Fairy: Kali
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Waiting for datamine to see if there’s anything worth saving for, but if there isn’t, which Halloween unit should I try for? I’m impartial to both characters and they both seem very good but not game breaking to me.
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>>56769748
>nanu
>lusamine
Lol?
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>>56770033
Nanu has been a variety of story events, but usually a side character. Akari is probably a lock-in.
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>>56770052
>Akari is probably a lock-in.
What if Cynthia & Spiritomb?
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>>56770066
>new units for arc
You get old ones and you like it
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>>56769748
Isn't Alder the only champion left without an alt, not even a special costume?
I get that nobody cares about him, but man it's sad.
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>>56770087
It's not a new unit if regular SSS(pooky) Cynthia is the next Master Fair :^)
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>>56770090
Is he really a champion?
>sidelined for N in BW
>removed for Iris in B2W2
>used as surprise pull bait before Anniversary in Masters
>sidelined for Iris again in Masters event(s)
>being final for the weekly E4 doesn't count, as Hau gets to be there and he NEVER was allowed champ seat
He's champ in role only
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>>56770090
I care about my good ol' uncle. He's one of the extremely good father figures that isn't awful in mainline
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>>56770158
He's still champion in bw1 post game, I could see him with bouffalant as normal arc

OR as sygna MF with slither wing (cope but let a man dream)
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>>56769748
I think Ghetsis would be more likely to be an ice arc than Irida. A big part of arc suits is making pairs that are old and outclassed top tier so I can't imagine a 2023 master fair that's still top tier even without EX role getting one any time soon.
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>>56770158
If Alder doesn't count, why does Steven?
Alder can at least claim
>old
Steven is just a lazy neet quitter
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>>56770158
Actually I think that he was released as bait right after the 1st anni and before N, pretty funny.
Still "bait", normal N was pretty meh too at the time from what I remember, not sure now especially with how Electric has the rats and I think that his Lucky Skill was badly picked too, right?
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>>56770214
>A big part of arc suits is making pairs that are old and outclassed top tier
Did they actually said that or is that the common interpretation?
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>>56769748
>Selene even being mentioned
I am for Gladion and Palmer for the sake of lore accuracy alone, Eevee bullshit is cancerous.
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>>56770260
As always those are interpretations.ost likely accurate, but never ever it was said that arc have to be minmaxed versions of old iconic units.
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>>56770260
I don't think it's been explicitly stated but the fact that the arc suits we have are the first three fairs and mysterious stones establishing that they've become weak and need to get stronger which they do through getting arc suits strongly implies that.
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>>56769748
>>>>>>>Looker
First Arc Suit to rank below 200.
Anyway there is nowhere mentioned we can't have repeat Arc Suit types.
>Lusamine
Literally just met her Pheromosa vs Alder's partner Volcarona II
Psychic is a tough one, could be the Mews duo, Sabrina's arc basically ended with her Pokewood alt and is missing HGSS and LGPE alts, Giovanni might also be in the waiting line for Tera gimmicks.
Lear got a MF so they can pull even a bigger bullshit with him and Hoopa turning Unbound for the Arc Suit.
Brockek not getting any, he hasn't been in an event story for ages, he is dead. There are Paulo and honestly whatever, maybe another Blue.
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>These fucking "special" Masters Day bundle prices
who the fuck is spending $80 on 14k gems
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>>56770863
$ to Blood gem, it's one of the best deals, is it not?
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>>56769748
>Brock with Tyranitar more likely than Brock with Onix
No way.
Adaman, Irida, Akari and Rei have 0 chance.
Electric is missing <You> and Pikachu.
Bug is missing Benga as the #1 most likely far ahead of the others.
>>56770090
Benga will be Arc Alder's special costume.
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>>56771733
Watch the events again, Alder seems to be teased for a new something during the anni, when he thinks about how he should improve too. Either a poke/masterfair alt of any kind or Arc Scam, the choices are known between paradox and arc upgrade.
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>>56771733
>implying the hisiu gaggle won't be front and center for volo confrontation that's centered around their god
And besides irida, there's literally no good unique ice pairs



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