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A thread for the creation and discussion of fan fiction and other fanworks - anything that involves a story and/or reading.

>Thread question:
What do you think about Monotype teams vs non-Monotype? Do you think rising different Pokemon types should require different food or training methods, or do you prefer a simpler approach?

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>>56880849
It did. Well played.

>What do you think about Monotype teams vs non-Monotype?
Monotype makes sense for gym leaders, since they're supposed to validate trainers, not actually survive in the wild on their own.

>Do you think rising different Pokemon types should require different food or training methods
I would expect that diet respects the biome that the Pokemon inhabits and perhaps the creature it mimicks when applicable. But we've seen generic kibble in a few ways, so likely there's a common good-enough menu, at least in the short term.
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Imagine, an Ice type tricking you into licking its dick, then telling you the only way to get your tongue unstuck is to make him cum
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>>56880987
>tricking you into licking its dick
anon i'm sorry but if anyone has done this to you then it wasn't a trick you're just gay
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>>56881094
>His Ice type has never handed him a popsicle
He hates you bro
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>>56880891
Not to ape nutrition man, but you'd imagine each type has different broad needs as far as intake and further differentiates in species, given they deal with different kinds of magic and/or matter/energy manipulation. As for training, I think that's more goal-oriented. You wouldn't train a strength competition Machoke the same you would a badge circuit one, for example. A contest or other skill show mon would be different than one employed as a Pokémon Ranger partner and so on.
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Confess. How many of you snuck your fetishes into your fanfics? No need for details.
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>>56881386
You've gotten it backward.
You write the story and it gives you new fetishes.
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>>56880861
>What do you think about Monotype teams vs non-Monotype?
Monotype for actual, sanctioned, roadblocks like gyms and E4, but non-monotype for other stuff. More 'purposeful', I guess.

>Do you think rising different Pokemon types should require different food or training methods, or do you prefer a simpler approach?
Food, probably, should be more specialized, maybe to Typing and form. I figure most fire types are all going to need something similar, but you wouldn't feed a Growlithe the same stuff as a Charmander, after all.

On the other hand, if you trained a Growlithe you could probably train any of the other dog pokemon roughly the same, so Boltund, Greavard, etc would just need a bit of tweaking.

Anyway, my question for the thread is-
I'm batting around an eco-terrorist organization in the likes of Aqua and Magma, but the region they'll be for is a desert shithole. Would 'preserving natural caverns (that happen to be hiding their base)' be a decent front, or is there something better I can do?
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>>56881417
Nice to see someone tackling Orre. As for their front, they could be posing as preserving the last few underground groundwater tables or other vital resources that either come from those caves or have been manually transferred there due to their importance. Maybe the region happens to export a whole lot of a certain mineral and their extraction is a highly regulated business, or maybe they had to resort to artificial farms due to the harsh climate topside.
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>>56881386
My next fanfic will be based heavily around one of my fetishes. It's nothing too bad (pretty much every anime has at least one of these types of scenarios), but I think it's at least worth a heads up.
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>>56881438
I never said Orre, but that's a good idea. I was already planning there to be at least one mining company and a few other interested parties investigating the region for potential materials.

Who am I kidding, the 'eco-terrorists' are another Cipher front.
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>>56881499
Or maybe not. Maybe in the Cipher underworld power vacuum, Snagem got their head out of their asses and became a proper, respectable criminal outfit. Make Gonzap's experiences with Cipher teach him what not to do and how to skirt the potential do-gooders that might pop up. Or make the new leader someone that took over (willingly or not) from Gonzap and make the MC have to reach out to him to know how to navigate the seedy underbelly of the crime world to get access to the evil team's base/learn their true objective.
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>>56881386
I put a scary violent Houndoom in my VN that had Jasmine in it, specifically as a reference to THAT image.
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>>56881625
What image? You didn't post anything.
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>>56881386
Not deliberately, but as mentioned in the last thread my MC's aunt is over six feet tall, dark skinned, muscular, and dances in a somewhat provocative way in her profession as a DJ. I just wrote it because it fit who I wanted her to be as a character but a friend clocked me that she checked all my boxes and I was writing her unconsciously horny.
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>>56881386
Aye
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>>56881662
Clearly you need to change that. Time to be consciously horny from now on.
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>Female or Male OC and a Ralts as his/her starter

I don't hate this trope, but sometimes it could be done a little bit better.
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>>56881684
Who's done it well?
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How do you even feed a Gible? They eat metal iirc (or was that only anime exclusive?) so would a trainer go look for whatever they can find or buy top notch from some factory?
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>>56881732
I don't remember anything mentioning gible or its line eating metal, and the dex entries say Gible hunts "prey" so it can't be a diet of metal. Sounds like another fanfic the anime made up.
Maybe you're thinking of aron?
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>>56881761
>Sounds like another fanfic the anime made up.
Seems so, still, pretty cool since now I have another reason to make guns useless
>some Pokémon will eat them before (You) can react
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>>56881656
Here is an artist's reimagining.

Also sorry I didn't make a new thread before the old one died; I had a new Nurse Joy webm prepared and on my phone so I could make a new thread from work when the old hit the bump limit, and I just forgot. I'm really tired.
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>>56881821
>that webm
writing pokemon fanfic is already undeniably autistic, but you have to be on the CWC spectrum to be writing pokemon anime fanfic
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>>56882226
Shut it faggot, no wonder you weren't chosen as a Dexholder
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>>56882329
>installed as a phone app
what's even special about being a dexholder at that point? The instant the code gets leaked it's all over.
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>>56882329
not a fan of that grotesque alien-lookin twink on the right
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What are the most fucked up ways you could torture someone with the help of Pokemon?
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>>56881386
Four times so far, but each is something new.
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>>56883118
Endless timeloop, or using poison and psychic types to give him pleasure beyond human limits to turn him into a mindless zombie
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>>56883118
Intubate a fucker in a oil drum, hooked up to air and enough nutrients (maybe), and fill that shit with Brine. Pickled human for the low cost of like, 4 power points.
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>>56883118
Scramble nerve signals to in constant agonizing pain with Psychics. Constant drip of organ corroding poisons. Slow and deliberate cuts/incisions with sharp Steel types. Constant mindrape from either Psychics or Ghosts. Electro torture. Waterboarding. Constant beating from Fighting types coupled with accelerated healing from Grasses/healer-esque mons. Burning alive (including using lava). killing bodyparts through frostbite and getting creative with them.
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>>56883118
Have pokemon perform logic tests that prove their sapience, then have the pokemon pass the harkness test, then hire the pokemon as an employed worker with a legal citizenship in your region.
Verily, this doth sound like quite the torment for some.
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>inventing a new legendary to use its purpose in the world as a major plot device
Forgivable or cringe?
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>>56883378
Fakemons are cringe on principle but how forgivable it is depends on the concept I guess. If you have Arceus a brother or daddy I'd be cringing hard, but if you gave a weird eldirtch legendary that "orchestrated" the dance of the unown it could be forgivable but still cringe.
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>>56883118
Use a psychic pokemon to implant memories of experiences so extreme as to be fatal, such as drowning in a vat of stinging insects, or having individual body parts mutilated or removed countless times.
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>>56883378
All fakemon are inherently cringe. You really can't use some pre-existing Pokemon for that purpose?
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How do I write a realistic female character?
>ermmm you just need to write a human being sweaty
Fuck off, men and women are different. They're going to talk to people in different ways, tackle physical problems in different ways, and carry themselves in different ways. How can I get inside the head of a w*man?
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>>56884470
>Secretary: How do you write women so well?
>Author: I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability.
--- As Good As It Gets
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>>56884470
Go outside. Just kidding, read more. All writing problems can only be solved by reading more and better things.
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>>56880861
I need her to ride my face.
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>>56884470
Write a weak cowardly man who hates conflict
Call them a girl
Be amazed as all of his severe character flaws become endearing
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>>56884470
Have the mental strength to read books written by a wide variety of women or base her off the women you personally know or knew. I'll also tell you a secret: no one actually wants to read a realistic woman, real people are gay and annoying and this goes for the men too. Just write a likable one based off what you've enjoyed in your favorite characters.
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>>56884470
Read Sasuga Kei
>B-but I don't read shitty manga
Read Sasuga Kei if you really want to write a realistic woman
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>>56884470
It requires empathy. I don't mean feeling bad for them, but really being able to imagine and think through their circumstances and what their corresponding mindset would be.
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>>56884470
Fortunately you will never be a real woman, so you'll never be able to write a broad array of realistic women like you would men.
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>>56884470
>Fuck off, men and women are different.
Sure they are, but women are closer to men than they are to what anime taught you women are. You'll need to accept your starting point and work from there.
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>>56885468
>but women are closer to men
Yeah, no. A woman is more likely to call you a faggot for crying
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>>56885184
Genuine question, how can someone "train" their empathy?
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>>56885336
You Will Never Be A Writer
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>>56884470
Anyone who cares about writing a "realistic" character is a fucking retard who should kill themselves.
>Nooooooo but twitter trannies will laugh at me because I made my girl character titties jiggle boobily with every step!
Maybe you should instead kill yourself for giving a shit about what twitter trannies think in the first place.
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Starting to see a lot of weird projection from you guys here
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>>56886129
Kinda ironic when this place sethees at the mere mention of giving humans something to defend themselves beyond Pokémon because it isn't realistic for the setting
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>>56886163
>ultra-durable evolved superhuman battle monster totally immune to electricity
>gets oneshot by some random asshole swinging an electrified blackboard pointer
animebabies explain
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>>56886129
Massive tits aren't really what makes me think a character is unrealistic, I'd think that would be more centered on how they act
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>>56886144
>asks 4chan about women
>surprised when replies get edgy
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>>56884470
>How can I get inside the head of a w*man?
I suggest starting with dinner first. A fancy place isn't *required* but ups your chances.
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>>56885613
The short answer is "be born with it". The long answer is start by humbling yourself. As long as you see yourself as special and unique, you won't want to accept different realities. Empathy is about being able to imagine walking a mile in people's shoes and sympathizing with their circumstances; recognizing your own privileges and luck in relation to someone in a distinct (often less fortunate) situation, so the more you feel yourself, the less you're able to do that.
Doesn't mean you can't like your own situation or be proud/happy/content with your circumstances and who you are, but you need to be able to set that aside and be willing to see things from different perspectives.
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>>56886214
People will whine about your character being unrealistic no matter what.
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>>56886735
I mean, the moment an author starts talking about dick's sizes and how the MC is 6" you know things are getting unrealistic
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>there are """"people""" below 6 feet ITT
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How do you make immobile-ish, slow Pokemon interesting? Seems like a lot of popular stories with battles make them more fast-paced.
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>>56887420
By not mistaking low movement speed with low overall speed. A gator might not be able to run fast, but catching something within snapping range is another story, and once you're got you aint getting out. It's a common issue dexfags have that they fail to understand: one strike is often all it takes for a dexfag to get crumble or get caught in a combo they can't power out of.
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>>56887420
Something else for reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5KBMhw87n8
You might have noticed this one's done major rounds around the internet. The knight was relatively slow, but each movement was as calculated as it was powerful. A lot can be done in a small movement, there's no need for that flashy zipping around.
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>>56887420
Simple: you find a way to make the opponent come to you. Usually the trade-off for nimble movement is overwhelming power and bulk. Frail speedsters can't win if they don't engage, so you either make sure you can tank whatever they throw at you, or you use ranged options so they can't stay away and have to come in to try and stop your assault.
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>>56884470
Men are capitalists and economists. They look at things as a transaction. "Do this for me, and I will do a thing for you." or "I did this for you; now you should do something for me either now or in the future." This is why for example old timey organized crime has a lot of favors and debt involved in its operation. You inadvertently saved the Don's life; now he owes you a favor and offers to rub someone out if they're giving you trouble.

Women do not think like this, for better and for worse. Women are anarchists at the worst; socialists at the best. Women view the world as a mix of, "Look guys we all need to help here or it's not going to get done" and "I'm going to do what I want and you have no right to stop me." A woman might flip between "help me" and "don't fucking help me" while working on the same task, based on what seems to be needed in the moment.

If you want to be more subtle, women are worse at estimating dimensions, both in space and time. The part of their brains that deal with measuring based on sight is literally smaller. However women are much better at multitasking, including both "remembering a bunch of different things at once" as well as prioritizing which needs to be done and when. That's not something you can just outright say to your reader, like "Joan couldn't figure out whether the box would fit in the car because she's a woman; while John struggled to remember the grocery list because he's a man" or whatever, but it's a little thing you can keep in mind while writing. Maybe Joan was late to The Event because she was wrong about how long it would take to get there; or John forgot about The Event because he had three other people asking him to do things at the same time.

Also men are considering every woman they encounter within the ages of 15 and 45 as a possible mate, whether they'll admit it or not. Women are constantly thinking about women as well; the difference is a woman is constantly comparing herself to all of them.
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>>56887538
Half-swording makes me hard. That's all I have to say.
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>>56885613
Pick a person and think about them, about their perspective, their experience, who they are as far as you know, and who they might be out of your sight in the private moments, what might have made them the way they are. Really try to put yourself mentally in their shoes, to feel what you think they must have felt or what you would feel in the same situations that made them. You can practice on someone close, someone you happen to know a lot about, someone you like or dislike. Read a biography or an autobiography, watch a documentary, listen to courtroom victim testimony, courtroom defendent testimony, etc, and when you're done really give some focus and thought to the person's world before you move on to something else.

It's less about learning how to empathize than it is about about training yourself to empathize actively - reflexively. Thinking "mom would be happy if I called her" instead of "it's been a while since I called mom." Setting aside your superficial judgements of a person and considering how much more there might be to them that you may never know. Trying to care about and relate to things someone else cares about instead of nodding along when they talk about it.
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>>56884470
>How do I write a realistic female character
...don't? Write a realistic male character and then write the sexy fuckhole he gets to bang. Why would you ever need a female character?
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>>56885092
>peak fiction spotted

Listen up, anons. I come before you all today to settle a great debate..
>Legendaries and mythicals can transform into and disguise themselves as humans

Is it based? Or is it cringe?
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>>56888763
Cringe.
Legendary humans can instead disguise themselves as pokemon.
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>>56888763
Sounds cool but that would fit the ones dealing with concepts instead of elements
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>>56888763
Anthropocentric and cringe.
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>>56888689
Very funny pic.
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>>56887538
Armors are really cool and underrated nowadays since most think that would make your character slow.
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>Only able to get 6k words written tonight
I'm slipping bros
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>>56884470
https://youtu.be/pBz0BTb83H8?t=22
It's a meme but this clip is unironically correct. Especially for a young teenager/adult.

If you want to make a woman character that has some sense of reason then she needs to be some level of tomboy, or have some sort of hormone problem with her ovaries.
I'm not bullshitting you on that last one, you ever speak with a woman that has PCOS? They're basically a dude because they don't have female hormones raping their mind 24/7.

Humanity would be very different if humans had mating seasons instead of menstrauating.

Remember, writing a women like this does not = make her a roastie toastie who sleeps with 100 men a week.
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>>56889020
>he managed to write 6k words in a single day
I'm NGMI, huh?
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>>56888763
Dumb and pointless because we already have Zoroark disguising as human. I think some ghost pokemon can do it too. Ditto can probably do it to some extent. And then there's psychic pokemon doing illusory shit...

You just want a fix where a human can fuck Xerneas or something without it "technically" being bestiality, don't you?
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>>56889041
He's probably just inspired. For a regular pace aim for 4-6k per week. That pace prevents burnout after the initial fervor of writing a fresh story starts to wear off.
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>>56889041
If you can't shit out at least several thousand words of slop per day then your writing is nothing, you have no purpose, you should hiatus yourself NOW.
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>>56889075
Ditto literally does in Gen 7.
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>>56889075
He might be inspired by the leak lore where Arceus disguised herself as a human and fucked the first man to spread her creation
I think it could work for the Gen 4 Leggos and the cover legends for gen 6
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>>56889080
>implying I ever started anything more than a rough outline of the start
You look really stupid right now, anon, not gonna lie.
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>>56889079
I only really get one day a week to write, I spend the other six days wrapped up with other stuff.
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>>56889196
Then just do what you can, try to aim for 2k words on that day.
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>>56889020
>>56889041
when I was a teen I wrote 35k words in one weekend and got dozens of reviews
then I realized I was a retard with no real premise and deleted it and didn't write for more than a decade
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Trying to write a story but it's gunna focus on two characters, basically a duo of sorts, two trainers on a journey together. Anyone here wrote a fic with two MCs?

Do you guys usually write in Third Person Limited in one section of your story, then switch to another character in the same chapter? Or have a dedicated chapter for that one MC?
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As I opened the door to my apartment I was greeted by the sight of my beloved wife gardevoir being fucked by our trainer, Redo-sama. Her dress was up around her waist and she was leaning forward over the arm of a large sofa as he fucked her from behind. This was the first time I had seen my wife being fucked. I had eaten cum from her pussy, but never seen a dick in her cunt, not even mine.

My dick throbbed with anticipation as I watched. "Like what you see cucky boy?" she gasped as redo-sama fucked her hard with his huge dick. I nodded my approval and moved closer. Gardevoir kept her eyes locked on mine as he fucked her, only closing them briefly as she came.

"Watch me cucky, watch me get fucked", she gasped as Redo-sama's big human cock slapped into her little poké pussy.

"He is cumming in me now", She gasped and redo grunted, "he is filling your little wife with his hot cum".

He plunged his big human dick into my wife's cunt and held it there whilst the last of his cum drained into her pussy.

With Redo-sama's balls finally empty, gardevoir sat back on the couch and opened her legs for me, letting me watch as a drip of his cum oozed out of her pussy.

"Clean me up, cucky", she instructed and I dutifully buried my head in her crotch, lapping up my trainer's still hot cum from her pussy. When I had swallowed the last of his cum from my wife's pussy she kissed Redo-sama hard, with a passion I had never felt in her before.
>YABBA DABBA DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>thank you master! thank you for not killing me which you could do without breaking a sweat! thank you for letting me be your personal cum cleaner!
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>>56889778
>oh this sounds like a cool premise, I wonder where—
>God fucking damn it
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>>56889888
>Was this story good or what?
Nope. Diantha never loses!
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>>56889030
>>56888399
>>56884670
>>56884548
You wouldn't talk all this shit in front of your mother or your sister
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Why are tranxfolx like this?
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>be a starter pokemon
>some fat loser picks me
>tell the professor I reject him because he's a creep weirdo loser
>fat loser throws a tantrum, gets kicked out of the lab and banned from selecting another starter here
>several years later
>i'm still living in his head rent free
rate my story premise
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This thread needs a hero.
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>>56890059
>Sylveon fodder

Done
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>Arceus is depicted as a guiding hand who does just enough to keep the world from going completely off the rails
>but Rainbow Rocket implies there are very slightly alternate realities where every single Team Leader achieved their goals, including the ones that totally remade or genocided the world
Which is it?
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>>56890154
Arceus didn't like those worlds.
What, you think God isn't allowed to have favorites?
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>>56890154
Balance in all things, the worlds the MCs play through just so happen to be the Good Ending ones.
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>>56890154
Imagine being able to perceive every line of multiverse theory, there are infinite worlds where everything goess well and an infinite where they don't. Would you fuss over a few bad endings? It's hard not to be apathetic.
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>>56891208
My take is that when the Rainbow Rocket leaders get sent back to their worlds it sets events in motion to put things right there. Arceus just takes roundabout means to fix worlds that didn't have a champion to defend them yet.
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>>56889930
>Talking shit
Don't be so insecure fem-anon. It's not a failing of your personality or anything it's just yet another way that your reproduction system makes your life miserable.
There's a reason menopausal women are far more level headed. I have in fact spoken to my mother about this.
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>>56891351
>There's a reason menopausal women are far more level headed. I have in fact spoken to my mother about this.
What gets me is it's never a man with his shit together that'll say shit like this, it's a 4chan user. They could be the most hysteric woman imaginable but that doesn't mean the guy complaining about them suddenly has room to talk.
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>>56891300
So it sees defeat already in their future and lets fate take its course? Makes sense.
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>>56889884
>>56889896
>falling for Shaunberg's obvious bait
C'mon anons, I expect better from you guys.
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Shouldn't writers strive to foster a deep love and fascination for all of humanity, and not a cynical, unfounded bitterness against half the population?
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>>56891508
I've tried to garner reviews here to see if I'm coming across well in writing my characters but nobody will fucking give me one.
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>>56891508
Most literacy books are done because the author is seething at someone or something tho

>>56891669
Which one?
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>>56891369
The same way any random gal doesn't really have the basis to complain about a man's stereotypical flaws. Men and women are wired differently and neither can quite understand the other properly, just make guesses and approximations based on personal experience.
Frankly, I would never say I understand how women think, I can only try to deal as well as my own different reasoning allows.
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>>56891669
It's not just here- people barely leave comments or reviews anymore. I'm lucky to get any form of engagement on my fics, be they oneshots or long form.
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>>56891508
Woah, cool down Dostoievsky. I write to have my OC fuck pokegirls
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>>56891730
Sorry bro, I only comment on harem stuff to force the author to put a certain girl or to call him a faggot if their MCs are as dumb a Kekqua
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>>56891759
XY hard guns? I thought any kind of weapon was dropped in BW
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>>56891508
Writer should strive to foster a deep love and fascination with pokemon, and cynical bitterness towards humanity.
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>>56889930
>>>56884548 (You)
>You wouldn't talk all this shit in front of your mother or your sister
Thanks to the existence of Kamala I have spent months hearing my mother rant about the risks of having a female president, how foreign leaders will be eager to exploit feminine weaknesses, and how what Merkel did to Germany could happen here.

My momma don't play around.
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>>56891508
>cynical, unfounded bitterness

This conversation started with an anon asking how to write *realistic* women.
If you'd rather stick with fictional anime women writing then what's the problem? Just stick with that.
No one hates women more than women btw.
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>>56891669
Sorry bro. I've only reviewed 3 fics and each time the author immediately stopped updating or deleted the story. I'll never do it again for any story I even half enjoy.
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>>56892318
Holy mother of pick-me
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>>56892435
The speed at which an honest and neutral critique can cause mediocre writing to vanish is amazing.
If only it worked on the actually bad writing.
And then the good writing doesn't get critique at all because it's on a level higher than that of most would-be critics so they have nothing to say except "good job, moar?"
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>>56892435
based destructive criticizer
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>Here, an Eevee
>Pog, I'm gonna evolve it into an Espeon
>NO YOU CAN'T DO THAT. YOU'RE MEANT TO ASK THE EEVEE HOW IT FEELS
Pokemon are just units to be used in battle. What's the big deal?
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>>56892678
You'll disappoint Sugimori and Iwao if you treat your Pokémon like that.
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>>56892678
Are there any fics about an MC that tries to metafag, but keeps getting BTFO by muh friendshipfags and can't figure out why?
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>>56881386
I literally make fetish fics on a separate account to cater to my tastes in kink and Pokegirls
My normal account never touches on them

I'd say I have nothing to hide but a SFW and NSFW account split literally proves otherwise
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>>56892678
>Pokemon are just units to be used in battle.
I agree, more people should write TCG fics.
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>>56892706
I second this question.
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>>56892678
Pokemon want one thing: to become the optimal killing machine. They give their entire life over to weak humans whose society and intelligence are suited to honing them into weapons. Foisting such a critical decision as evolution back onto the pokemon is not only cruel, but a betrayal of the core responsibility of a trainer and indicates an inability to understand or respect the nature of pokemon. It's despicable that they even let people like that have pokemon.
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>>56888399
>"men are capitalists and economists": guy who has been stuck I the same dead end job for the past 10 years
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>>56891387
I can unironically see Elon Musk tweeting any one of these and both his proponents and his detractors will have no idea if he's being serious or shitposting
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>>56892989
You are in fact very close; I was stuck in the samefull-time job for 10 years before finally quitting about 4 months ago, for a new one that pays roughly 20% more with the same responsibilities but a larger team for me to shirk my duties on to.

Still can't afford a house or a hypothetical random doctor visit, though, cuz 'murica. :D
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>Ash's reunion with Latias takes an unexpected turn when he's posed with an unexpected question: What does his dream mean?
>Without the words to explain it, he decides to show her!
AO3: https://archiveofourown.org/works/59830117/chapters/154447135
FFN: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14402750/5/Pok%C3%A9mon-XY-Finding-Something-New
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Does anyone have a list of those Pokémon tropes like the pikachu clone, early game bird, etc?

I’m making fakemon based on my hometown. Posting here because I don’t want to shit up the catalogue with my question. I hope it fits here
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>>56893555
But anon, how will we able to know if your fakemon is good for your hometown if you don't tell us your hometown?
DOXX YOURSELF
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>>56893555
Pikachu clone

>Plusle
>Minun
>Pachirisu
>Emolga
>Dedenne
>Togedemaru
>Morpeko
>Pawmi/Pawmo/Pawmot

Early game bird

>Pidgey
>Hoothoot
>Taillow
>Starly
>Pidove
>Fletchling
>Pikipek
>Rookidee

SV doesn't really have one (it just uses Fletchling again), but some people consider Wattrel the regional bird of the game (I don't).
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>>56893555
hometown pokemon should be hometown references
>you remember a notoriously nasty roadkill situation? roadkill ghost type based on that animal
>bunch of junkies who live under a bridge? poison/dark junkie pokemon
>local mongoloids who liked shooting a particular bird species (crows/seagulls/ducks/pigeons/etc.) for fun? make a revenge-themed bird pokemon based on that species
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Any story like concierge? The league and saving the world tend to get boring really fast with the eternal tournament arc like in Reset Bloodlines
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FFN: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14397816/5/Pok%C3%A9mon-In-Mine-Own
AO3: https://archiveofourown.org/works/59572648/chapters/154461517

New chapter of my journeyfic, In Mine Own is up.

Emma leads the others to the doorstep of Professor Sycamore, the foremost Pokemon researcher in Kalos. What can he tell them of their mysterious foes, and what connection might there be between them and the man who once dreamt of a beautiful world? And what aid can he give Kuzey and Herri to help them face Agent Celot? There's only one thing for trainers setting off on a new journey: new Pokemon.

I'm always looking for feedback, so if you happen to give it a read, I'd love to hear your thoughts and criticisms. Thanks!
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>>56893477
I now ship Greninja and Latias.
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>>56894758
That is unironically a ship I've considered with these two, actually! Just because Latias is such a dork for the theatric heroics. For now though, she remains his biggest fangirl, nyehehe
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>>56894741
>>56894758
>>56894955
>Cuckshit
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>>56894961
? What are you talking about lmao
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>>56894961
>>56894741 (You)
>Cuckshit
The fuck did I do?
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>>56894966
No no, Anon is asking for cuckshit. Obviously. Please don't indulge him or he might have an unauthorized pee-pee hardening and his wife's boyfriend's son will laugh at him.
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>>56892706
No, because it would be dull as fuck. Who wants to read about someone who keeps losing?
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>>56895103
nta, but stop defending cuckoldry writing with greninja x latias just because your feefees got hurt.
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>>56895103
>>56895296
And don't out your own fetish by describing an imaginary scenario of anon and his wife's boyfriend's son, that says more about your brainrot than anything else.
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>>56895296
lmao, I'm a multishipper my dude. Latias can fuck a boy *and* his frog, thank you very much.
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>>56895315
Fnafiction.net called, they want their emasculated white "man" audience back.
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>>56880861
this drawing of Shauntal is too much for me to handle
I need to hide this thread
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>Ash self-inserter seething just because of the mere implication of someone else being with his waifu (she is not his waifu and will never be and is only so under his ashschizo delusions)
Comedy gold.
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>>56869771
>People talk about that Loud House fanfic, but that's cheap shit, it's just episode scripts half the time.
I decided to take a look at it. The writer started a sequel to it earlier this year and it's already at 8 million words so there's a combined 24.7 million words but I wonder how many of those words actually contribute to any sort of plot when the entirety of the most recent chapter looks like this.
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>>56896618
This reads like a monkeys with a typewriter situation. Dude's gotta be a lobotomite on some experimental gutter oil street drugs
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>>56880861
Fuck I love Shauntal and this is a real great artwork of her.
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>>56882386
Please understand, he's autistic.
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>>56880861
Fuck shauntal, I hate her. Her glasses are stupid.
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>>56891695
>Which one
This one >>56894741 meant to (You) you and forgot.
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>>56896618
Holy fucking kino.

Do you think in ancient times priests or nobles would sit down and write down incomprehensible tomes full of fanfiction about their Gods and their heroes, convinced they were divinely inspired by the Heavens while in reality they were just autistic?
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>>56897148
The first thing I think of is the Mahabharata.
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>>56897106
I actually have that one open in a tab to take a gander but haven't gotten to it yet, anon. My b.
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>>56897106
I got filtered by Team Flare, weren't they gone at the end of the game?
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>>56897433
Minor spoilers: Team Flare is thematically relevant with a few connections, but it's a completely different villain that the heroes mistake for Team Flare at first.
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>>56897449
You made me wonder how mercenaries would work in the Pokémon world, do you think that field is mostly for eight badges tier trainers that weren't a le to get pass the E4 and didn't have the connections to be in charge of a city?
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>>56893641
It’s a certain major city, and the fakemon are largely based on the history of it
>>56893664
Thanks! I meant more like what other tropes there are, so I could check off boxes
>>56893963
Considering the fent situation in my town you may have given me an idea
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>>56897606
Now thats an idea ive been thinking about as well.

I always thought that "mercenaries" work in specific case by cases. I'd suppose that the definition of "mercenary" will be different in a world that doesn't have a propensity for war like Pokemon. But I'd say they work something along the lines of bounty hunters / oddjobers: some mercenaries specialize in research, accompanying researchers to the deep wilderness to help them in research, others may be hired by private enterprises for specific purposes (silph co. Pinkertons).

There are very few mercenaries put there that could handle tasks in the range of E4, and those who are able to aren't in the good side of the law for whatever reasons.
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>>56897606
I imagine them as trainers who for some reason or another have been barred from official League participation, and turn to their skill as trainers to live off the grey market. People accused of stealing Pokémon, or committing violent crime, or otherwise violating the League's bylaws in a way so egregious no other penalty fits.

Presumably a lot of mercs would be middling trainers at best, and might wind up falling in with a criminal organization like Team Rocket for stable income, but the best of the best would be freelancers who can afford to make clients come to them.
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Have you guys ever looked at your scrapped material and thought to yourselves "Yeah, I could bring that back"? I sometimes look at the shit I threw out for the fanfics I'm doing.
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>>56899015
I reuse and repurpose scrapped content all the time. There is no such thing as a bad idea; merely ideas that needs to be used in a different place or time.
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>>56899015
How's the saying?
>A person's trash is another's treasure
Or something like that, tell me about this concept tho, were they fallers?
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>>56899338
>tell me about this concept tho, were they fallers?
Not fallers per se. They were part of a story idea I had in 2018. Warning, lotsa autism here:
>basically, Ash would travel to a region where he'd meet Damian/Blankface (picrel)
>both would banter constantly about goals and stuff, because Damian quit being a trainer for being a loser
>one day, Damian finds out Ash has Ho-Oh feather that allowed him to leave everyone static cause Ash has a fear of growing up
>Damian calls him out, Ash feels ashamed and undoes the de-aging, turning him into a teen
>some shit happens, Ash is left broken and parts ways in bitter terms with Damian
>Ash ends up meeting Anabel again and becomes a Frontier Brain, and becomes super bitter and distant towards his friends
>Anabel is pretty much his emotional support
>but after some shit where Ash and everyone have to take down Team Rocket for real, him and Damian come to peaceful terms

Nowadays though, I'll still use them, but they'll just be regular alternate universe variants, rather than making them through an edgy phase. Ash won't be an asshole, just classy because he has Anabel for a girlfriend. I call them the Battle Sire and the Salon Queen.
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Ah, stupid me, I forgot the image.
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>>56899468
Damn, that's hella cringe.
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>>56899468
>Ash BETRAYED
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>>56899468
Eh, I've read worse as far as chuuni Kino goes but the third and fourth point sounds like the Fairly OddParents since that's how the series ended iirc
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>>56888763
Its basically canon, the origin myths from the teraleak either have palkia and dialga screwing to give birth to all life(anatomically impossible due to palkia being the female) or arceus literally transforming into a human and fucking a guy
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>>56897320
All good dude, appreciated.
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>the league is a way to size up threats to the government and then paying the strongest hobo to not start slaughtering for fun while the gym leaders are ruling their cities
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Do you write champions, gym leaders, and e4 members as being proactive members of society? As in, they actually go out and try to resolve issues? I still find it very strange that Steven and Cynthia aren't known to be champions in their games until right when you fight them.
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>>56901638
If the Pokemon League and organized pokemon battling didn't exist, then the 1% of obsessive pro-level trainers would have no outlet for their desire for battle and proving themself, and at some point some of those people would go on to become warlords, mercenaries, or other types who are at risk of destabilizing civilization. Having an organized and somewhat productive outlet for pokemon trainers keeps them from going off the rails and hurting people.
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>>56901728
Gym Leaders are local community figures that are socially expected to help people and Pokemon in their times of need. Beyond that, it's just a job that some people have with regulations in place for their behavior. Champions and E4 members are that to a much greater degree, basically figureheads for their region overall. They're (socially) tasked with addressing issues and crises in their respective regions, ie, dealing with evil teams and take over the world plots if they arise.
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How old is Katy?
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>>56881386
I don’t properly write fanfics but every time i imagine something close to one it’s always very obvious and assumed wish fulfillment because why wouldn’t it be?
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>>56903318
11
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I will put guns in my story, aurafags need not apply
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Under what circumstances is it okay to physically discipline your Pokémon? How far should you take it?
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>>56905129
The moment they draw (your) blood they should be put down, from that moment onwards they lose any kind of fear or respect they might have for (You). God knows I want to kill a certain pitbull but doing it is illegal in my country nowadays since for some reason many put some animal's life over a human
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>>56905129
By the time I'd consider punishment I'd have already cut them loose to be someone elses problem.
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>>56905129
It is always okay for the Master to discipline the servant, to whatever extent they see fit. Humanity is one of Arceus’s (whose true, complete form is HUMAN btw, unlike what the heretics will tell you) divine arms, placed on the earth to hold dominion over all beasts.
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>>56905259
>many put some animal's life over a human
Good.
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I think I'm becoming a faggot.

What are some good fics with yaoi pairings that aren't obnoxious LGBTQ shit? Just two normal dudes romancing and fucking. Preferably journeyfics/longer works instead of one-shots.
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>>56880861
Fetishes which have real life footage?
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>>56904311
>enhanced senses
>can see through walls
>perfectly zen stillness that even the most powerful of recoil cannot budge
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>>56901728
The games very often just don't make sense. Either you accept it and ignore the many elephants looming over you, or you spend precious words making changes and try to convince your readers that your vision is better and not retarded.
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>>56907654
>and ignore the many elephants looming over you
What elephants? Those elephants only exist if you try to do a game/anime retelling fic. It's not a problem for us chads who actually write a living breathing world that isn't just full of NPCs who remain inactive until the MC interact with them.
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>>56907785
Alright then, make
>Aqua and Magma have average IQ
>Multiverse Giovanni
>Cyrus plan
>Ghetsis retarded idea
>Lyssandre's purge
>Rose's [WE DON'T TIME LEON]
>Time travel/imagination
Make sense
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>>56907813
Most of those can be made reasonable, and the rest you're just complaining about fantasy elements.
>Aqua and Magma have average IQ
How is this a problem? Setting aside the memes, their concepts aren't that stupid. One wants to expand humanity's influence and create more land for humanity to live on, the other wants to protect nature and stop/punish humanity's expansionism. There are dumber things that people fight for IRL.
>Multiverse Giovanni
It's magic, bitch, I aint gotta explain shit. Rainbow Giovanni successfully took over the world in his universe and sought to expand his empire across dimensions.
>Cyrus plan
What about it, other than just how dangerous it is to oppose beings that can be considered gods of space and time? He went in with plans to deal with them. He knew the Red Chain would control them.
>Ghetsis retarded idea
Not "retarded" just extremist and diabolically evil. He formed a cult and groomed a figurehead to lead that cult for power. Look through our own history enough and you'll find similar things.
>Lyssandre's purge
Lysandre did basically the same thing as Cyrus but on a smaller scale. Told people he would make a better world, secretly wanted to nuke it. His own personal success helped him gain a following and his obsession saw him grow it.
>Rose's
Rose made a few bad ideas but it can be understood. He had a savior complex and felt that only he could do what was needed to be done. He felt he had to deal with the crisis in his lifetime because he didn't trust anyone else to do it. His timetable was still shit, though, which is another good example of how fanfic can remove elephants that only exist in the original canons.
>Time travel/imagination
It's magic, bitch, I aint gotta explain shit. Shit's like a bunch of paper folding and interlinking with other folds of paper.
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>>56901728
My understanding of this is that Gym Leaders are expected to handle the stuff going on in their cities, and E4/Champions are only expected to do work in dire circumstances/champion time, and even then, it depends on how proactive they want to be. If there's nothing for the E4/Champ to do, they're collecting the equivalent of unemployment cheques and are free to do whatever they want.


Also: taking the chance to shill myself because I wrote a bonus chapter in addition to my normal updates on Mondays: https://archiveofourown.org/works/59758336/chapters/152426965
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>>56901638
>The entire system is bought crashing down by mute autistic 10 year olds that have subjugated the gods that created the world.
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>>56907813
>>Cyrus plan
>implying that an autist from here wouldn't try it if they thought it would work
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>>56907936
>Tfw I've read so much gookslop that the first thing that come to more mind was Lookism "invisible attacks"

Also, reminder that humanChads teach Pokémon techniques
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>>56908133
Fuck off Shaun
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>>56908133
>>56908150
>Black
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>shaunberg screeching
It's steadily becoming background noise. It's always the same tired routine.
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>>56907813
Nothing makes Multiverse Giovanni work because multiverses are inherently shit
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>>56908736
Shut the fuck up before you get a multiverse version of yourself turned into a pokemon and then sold by Giovanni for being too weak to be on his team but actually you have the strongest ability?!?!?!
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>>56908759
In the world of Trainers, I am the strongest Breeder!?
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>>56907813
You don't need to do much for some of these. You could conceivably make Magma more heroic. No clue for Aqua though, they just come across like pure retards despite their conservationist nature.
>Cyrus
What's wrong with Cyrus?
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>>56909118
>No clue for Aqua though, they just come across like pure retards despite their conservationist nature.
I can see a strong anti-human greed sentiment forming after what happened with Greater Mauville Holdings. The company horribly mistreated pokemon and even treated their human employees like slaves all in the name of furthering profits and progressing humanity.

It's just so weird that Gamefreak has all this background lore that ties directly into their main story, but they never bring it up. It's only ever in the background, forcing people to go digging through hidden messages and puzzles just to figure it out.
How hard would it have been to just give Archie a line about his time in GMH and how it radicalized him? Or Maxie giving a line about how frustrated he was with GMH being shut down despite the work they were doing for humanity, so he decided to step up in their stead?
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>>56909064
Yes? That shit would make the most sense since eugenics are invincible
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>>56909180
>GMH
Qrd?
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>>56909180
I could've sworn Tabitha and Shelly were in Devon.
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>>56909198
off the top of my head:
>GMH, or Greater Mauville Holdings, was a company in Hoenn
>They were responsible for Mauville, New Mauville, and Sea Mauville
>GMH's primary field was in construction, particularly urban development, but it was also involved in resource extraction and research that focused on these fields
>Archie, Maxie, and Wattson used to work for/with them
>They bribed a Devon employee, Tabitha, to learn about Infinity Energy(basically pokemon's life force) and its usage as a power source
>They researched IE on their own and discovered Natural Energy
>Sea Mauville, a deep sea mining platform, becomes a major focus so they can extract Natural Energy from the earth
>GMH grows a villainous mustache and begins twirling it
>start treating pokemon like cattle and employees like slaves(we see this in the notes.
they had official company slogans like "Maintain top quality. Give up your sanity" and "Worship and praise the founder" and "No need to think. Just work unceasingly"
>start up plans to make a submarine powered by IE to search for deep minerals and Natural Energy hotspots
>Wattson, who I think primarily managed New Mauville, hates the direction the company is going so he whistle blows
>GMH gets taken down
There are more details but that's a qrd
>>56909235
They were. GMH bribed Tabitha for intel. Shelly, I don't know her story, just that she was friends with Archie. I'm guessing she joined Archie once GMH fractured.
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>>56904311
>swordfags will INSIST their little darling can somehow keep up with grenademander or glockachu
If you bring a swordasaur to ANY regional conference you will be laughed out of the room, but not before an m79zard turns you into bloody mush. We need to stop giving out these noob traps to young trainers that don't know any better, the meta's long since moved from the primitive playstyle that swordasaurs once thrived in.
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>>56910377
>meta plebian doesn’t know how bitching swordasaur makes you look
It’s not about raw power, it’s about using the rest of your team to pulverize your opponent, and dealing the finishing touch with your trusty partner swordasaur. Do you know how raw the image of holding up your opponent’s decapitated head is, triumphantly standing over his bleeding body? Entire kingdoms have been built on that shit.
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>>56909241
Is this GMH lore in the original games, supplementary material or is it only mentioned in ORAS? I'm a big sucker for all this background lore shit.
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>>56910377
>metafag bought into the projectile wanking
>willingly enslaves himself to limited ammo cringe
The true mark of skill is being able to evade and outlast ammofags and completely dominate them when they're helpless and despairing because their stupid weaponmon became useless. No greater feeling.
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>>56910804
>No greater feeling.
We know, Rocket grunt

No aurashit btw
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>>56904311
>pulling a gun on Champion Diantha at the very seat of her power
Someone’s getting refined into a pill and tortured for 100 years
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>>56904311
>Steel types won't even feel it
>Will bounce from Rock types
>Can't hit Ghost types
>Won't harm anything made of lava
>Fighting types will just dodge
>Electric types would be inmune thanks to magnetism
>Psychics can predict or block without lifting a finger
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>>56911011
>implying Rockringes would go for swordmons
They're wither peak ammofags or, at most, whipoopers. They'd never have the patience or talent to become average with swordmons.
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>>56911090
*either
Fuck.
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>>56910794
I'm pretty sure it's an ORAS thing, I don't remember any direct mentions of anything like it in the original games when I did my research. Unless there are any mention of GMH or something like it in the leaks for gen 3, then it was something they added in for ORAS, likely to better tie in Mega/Primal evolution and to add a bit more history to the region.
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>>56912065
Probably also to explain Mauville becoming a whole-ass shopping center city and the whole New Mauville sidequest. Still, that's pretty neat stuff. I can appreciate subtle and environmental storytelling, but sometimes it's just nice to have the background given to you to further immerse yourself in the game's world.
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>>56912089
Yeah, I love the background stuff too. I'm just baffled that they didn't use it to make Archie or Maxie look less batshit insane to the average player, which I assume was the entire point behind making Archie and Maxie both being part of the GMH. Even with this new lore explaining them and their team, the average player still thinks they're retards who only want to make more land or make more ocean because all this new lore is hidden deep down.
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>>56911011
>h-heh aura isn't rea—D-DID HE JUST SPLIT A MOUNTAIN WITH HIS SWORD AND AURA N-NO THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE THE DAO OF THE BLADE SHOULD NOT BE CAPABLE OF SPLITTING THE HEAVE—AAAAAAACCCKKKKK!!!
That's you btw.
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>>56908122
Personally not a single day goes by where I don't want to put a bullet in my head. If I could take down everyone else with me? All the better.
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>>56912936
Any aurafaggotry/cultivatory fics made recently? I saw two other than my Peerless fic but one of them's dead and the other includes a lot of fangame stuff that I'm not interested in.

For as much as we meme on it aurafaggotry seems rare and usually tame. I can't think of any fics where the human MC reached the power level of a god-slaying hero, much less on the same level as the average 8 badge pokemon.
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>>56913772
Half of the time people don't know what they want Aura to be, the other half makes punch harder retard only despite having potential for more.
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>>56913772
I'm unironically just using different non-Aura reasons for why some humans in my fic can do super-powered stuff and even fight Pokémon hand to hand, I just don't want to deal with that whole swathe of lore more than I have to.
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>>56913074
I'm just saying, if you want a bunch of autistic nihilists, you wouldn't have to look much further than here.

>verification not required
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>>56914676
That's just a hobby thing, if you talk to other writers you'll quickly find out many of them are depressed or psychotic.
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>>56914630
>non-Aura reasons for why some humans in my fic can do super-powered
Natural selection, unironically the power of nutrition since they eat Pokémon and their magical berries and exposure to infinite energy? That's what I would do
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>>56914630
I'm cool with humans shonen training their way out of normal limits but normie civies should remain mundane to not cheapen the characters that actually train to be that way.
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How do planes avoid hitting flying Pokemon/trainers?
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>>56914776
I'm not depressed, but I have access to powers some would deem unnatural.
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>>56916740
Self awareness bordering on psychosis?
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>>56916732
Planes fly way higher then you think.
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>>56913772
Cultivation despite being a meme has a lot of rules, once you get into a certain realm the world starts rejecting you or you end up killing everything unconsciously because there are no more resources
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>>56916795
That and autism
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Bros, some seethe with a mere mention but how could I write Ash without Yuyama's autism or the resets in an EoS story?
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>>56917490
Simple, pick a point of Ash you like (Most go with DP or XY), and extrapolate an end-of-series/later series version of said character. You'll need to learn to get rid of shame to do this (that part of yourself that will resist making Ash strong, competent, or emotionally aware) and understand it's canon that's been doing a bad job, and you're correcting it. Of course don't go overboard, which is often the problem with people writing Ash fics.

My version of Ash basically takes his XY self and recontextualizes his stiffness as a consequence of his hyper-positive attitude, something he adopted to keep pressing forward despite his constant losses. Once he learned to stop holding such negative feelings in and actually take a shot at addressing *why* he's been losing, he loosens up greatly, and returns closer to his OS-DP characterization.

Do something like that, and you can make something pretty soulful
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>>56917490
I mean, shitposting aside, is it really that difficult to write Ash?
Like, from OG to DP and arguably until XY, if you ignore BW's existence, there's some modicum of character progression going on him that follows a pretty decent train of logic.

>Newfag Trainer
>Proper Trainer
>Experienced Trainer dabbing on being a metor
>Refining and perfecting being a trainer and mentor
>Leading figure

With this I think it's really easy to figure out what to do with him. Maybe put a spin or two of your own on him and you'll have it good.

If anything I think it's harder to actually go out of your way to keep fucking-up Ash. Be it the actual things that ruined him in the actual anime or the typical fanfic stuff where it's Ash only in name.

I really like >>56917524 take on it.
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Vaguely related to the Ash discussion, how do/would you go about writing older versions of the game's protagonists in general? I've dabbled a bit with Juliana so far, but in my notes Gloria, Serena and Calem, Dawn/Akari, and Ethan are all gonna show up in some capacity and I've had it on the backburner trying to figure out not just what their own unique personalities should be, but what they'll be like as adult versions of themselves with new responsibilities and experiences.
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>>56917659
You're gonna need to sort out who they were as people in general honestly. The Game MCs are pretty much all blank slates outside of Red/Gold. You have a lot of freedom to define them and do interesting things with them.
My version of Adult Serena is curt and emotionally distant, a consequence of the fact she pushed away her friend group in the pursuit of defeating Diantha.
>“They used to spend so much time hanging out with me, showing me all around Kalos, challenging me to battles. I didn’t dislike them, I just…” Yvonne paused, pondering over her own words, like she was trawling through her memories for how she felt. “I never took the time to try to be their friend too. I was always just focused on beating Gyms, getting closer to challenging the champion.”
>Yvonne sighed, before she leaned back.
>“And by the time I became champion, I didn’t hear from them anymore. They’d stopped trying to hang out with me at some point, and I hadn’t noticed.”
Granted, this is all serving a bit of meta commentary on how people played the XY games, but I think my point stands.
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>>56917686
>My version of Adult Serena is curt and emotionally distant, a consequence of the fact she pushed away her friend group in the pursuit of defeating Diantha.
How do you fuck up the one trait she had? Go reread what she says after the final rival battle, she only cares about fighting you, not Diantha
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>>56917699
I'm taking Serena as the protagonist, not the rival. The discussion is about the protagonists
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>>56917703
She’s canonically the rival, like red being the protag. You continue your silliness and excuses rather than embracing creating your own lore apart from the games, as if a thread connecting the two will validate your work.
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>>56917736
Yeah dude, whatever floats your boat I guess
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>>56917686
That's a cute kind of meta spin on player mentality portrayed as personality, I like it. In my fic Calem was the Champion that defeated Diantha, but Serena was more like a second protagonist working in tandem, and was the one who did the post-game plot with Emma and Looker, so she's become a world-renowned detective while Calem is more famed as a League trainer. It's a challenge I'm facing for each of them but giving them all their own voice is the kicker. I kind of imagine Serena as having picked up a few of Looker's poor grammar and love of exclamations, but Calem I haven't nailed down yet.

Juliana was easy in comparison, I just based her off a Spanish woman I knew growing up who was very ladylike, but was very good at speaking to kids on their own level and would match their energy and more informal speech when talking to them.

>>56917736
>>56917699
No need to flip out about it dude, the rival has a certain type of personality but that doesn't mean their incarnation as the protagonist needs to be that way.
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>Not so fast. I think you'll find that you need to pay me twice as much, sweetie
Make it make sense
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>>56917872
What started as a schoolyard rule has spiraled out of control, and now it's become cultural tradition for trainers to pay double to anyone who uses it as a held item and wins. This comes at the risk that losing means you have to give it to the other trainer.
There's no law for it, and no Jenny will enforce it if you try. It's simply an unspoken honor rule, despite technically being BM since you're claiming you can beat them without a real held item.
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>>56917686
Is this story about Serena/Yvonne reconnecting with her friends?
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>>56917901
Nah unfortunately not. She's a big focus of a mini-arc though, when Ash falls through Reflection Cave and ends up in the game universe. By the end, Ash helps her realize that she doesn't have to be distant anymore and that she can still make friends (starting with him). The implication is that afterward, she would then try to reconnect with them to some extent.
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>>56917819
Then I think you should start by asking who Calem was before and extrapolating from there. Why did he pursue the gym challenge, why did he want to become champion? What was his motivation and how did he regard the people around him. With that, you can pretty easily find who he is an adult!
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>>56917659
I’m still having trouble figuring out how I want to write the younger versions.
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>>56917524
>he loosens up greatly, and returns closer to his OS-DP characterization.
I didn't get this, iirc he could be a little bit of an asshole and use sarcasm. Do you mean that instead of the perfect goody two shoes?
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>>56918448
>he could be a little bit of an asshole and use sarcasm
NTA, but it goes like this:
>in OS, he was unhinged as far as being an asshole, but that's partially because a lot of people were also assholes towards him, even Brock and Misty, though there are cases, where he was unnecessarily rude, like with AJ
>in AG, he was impulsive and still capable of roasting people, but would eventually set his levels of jerk back (see what happened with Brawly), by the end of Battle Frontier, he was pretty much mellowing out, he had fights with movie Lucario and Brandon, but he was also friendly towards Anabel and had stopped having arguments with May by then
>by DP, he rarely got into grudge matches or had anger issues, besides Paul, and even then, both eventually got in respectful terms ala Sonic and Shadow, worst situation I can recall is movie Shaymin, and even, that one was an asshole too
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>>56918448
A bit more sarcastic, a bit funnier, a bit more personable and wry and biting. He starts cursing a bit more freely (when Bonnie isn't around). Him and Pikachu have a go at each other more, like bros do! That sorta deal
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>>56917872
Amulet Coins don't necessarily give you money only after finishing a battle—rather, they're rare mutations of a Meowth's head thingy that can generate gold on their own. Not an insane amount, but a nice bonus on top of what a trainer will usually earn in a day. They probably require some amount of normal/pokemon energy to function, with a good amount of loss of said energy, and a cutoff with a cool down so they can't be abused infinitely.

They are also incredibly, extremely, unbelievably illegal.
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>>56919081
I always imagined Amulet Coins as being uniquely lucky, and simply caused little things to happen that improve your wealth - like after a battle, the dirt that's been dug up reveals a semi-precious stone you could sell for a chunk of change.
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How does the Bureaucracy™ and (((Banking System))) feel about my nigga Gholdengo making it rain everywhere and skating like a chad and doesn't afraid of anything?
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>>56919136
I'd imagine Gholdengo itself is such an absurdly rare Pokemon it's not truly an issue for most people. Collecting the necessary materials to evolve one, and that's after finding a wild Gimmighoul you can capture at all, is so exceedingly time-consuming and difficult that it's not worth regulating.
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>>56917872
It's magic fuckface, I ain't gotta explain shit.
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>>56917736
>>56917699
Meds.
Now.
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>>56919104
"Luck" as a superpower is so retardedly broken you might as well just write "this character is the author's pet" and be done with it.
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>>56919163
I don't mean general luck, I just mean it's literally a lucky charm that makes you indirectly earn more money from battling than normal through odd circumstances. It doesn't help in a fight.
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>>56916740
Autism. Sorry I forgot the writers curse is a trinity.
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>>56917872
Held items are faggy and nonsensical, I ignore it just like how I ignore using a full restore mid battle.
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>>56919638
Does that include mega?
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Is a vidya protagonist winning a Conference and becoming champion in their first runthrough considered unbelievable? I want to show that adversity led to them growing leaps and bounds around everyone else, but I'm unsure if people would really accept that.
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>>56920265
That's the norm for (you) in the games though.
Only losers like trAsh can't do it on their first go.
I honestly don't understand why you have trouble with this.
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>>56920276
That's the thing though, it happens in the games because it's a video game. Is it believable for it to happen in a story where you're trying to make things work without breaking peoples' suspension of disbelief?
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>>56920265
>>56920286
Considering your average game protag at the lower end dismantles a mafia during their initial journey and on the higher end deal with the Antichrist and/or catch an alien in space while mounted on a dragon deity? Yeah, I'd say winning a tournament would be well within the margin of growth experienced by these prepubescent Pokémon geniuses.
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>>56920286
>I want to show that adversity led to them growing leaps and bounds around everyone else
By this alone you're already on the 1% of writers.
You're actually giving a how and why.
It's not "they're just built different bro my OC totally not my SI is just THAT good just because!".
If your MC is always getting in situations where they encounter situations that are ten levels ahead of theirs then that they're getting a shitton of experience that people whose encounters are adequate for their level will not be getting.
>without breaking peoples' suspension of disbelief?
We've got countless stories where MC is the super duper smartest and becomes da strongest because of muh metaknowledge that's obvious shit like using a Moon Stone on Clefairy to evolve it into Clefable because*gasp* no one had ever thought of doing that and they're also the only ones not blind enough to see that the same Clefable is tanking Fighting type attacks instead of falling over dead at the slightest tap from a Machop. You'll be fine.
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>>56920265
People will accept it. Nutrition man destroyed a gym leader's true team by his, what, third badge? Vicky was doing the same before even getting her first badge, Jordinio was approaching Champion level after only about 4 badges I think, etc.
>>56920286
It's not even the games bending themselves to allow the player(child) to win. There are other canon young characters who are at that level: the hoenn Psychic twins, Poppy, your rivals, and I think Clemont is also that young. Plus all the literal children you can encounter on routes and in battle facilities towards the end of the game.

Like the other anon said, Ash is a bad metric. He's a low performer
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>>56920301
Also, it's perfectly fine to make your MC a winner. In fact, good, way too many people nowadays keep making their MCs into gutless losers.
Get them in shit, make them struggle, but always make them come out better for it, and winning more and more because of that.
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>>56920265
What's your MC like personality-wise and what kind of adversity are you specifically putting them through?
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>>56920303
Ah yeah, I totally forgot the foxfucker fought Flannery's grandfather on even footing somehow. Which makes it funny that he's not supposed to be a particularly good battler.
>>56920320
It's just Brendan in an ORAS Hoenn. What I really wanted to do was do a Brendan/May story since they seem to be rare, but then it sort of spiraled into a more journey-like story due to people here throwing out posts that made me mull over the idea a bit more.
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>>56920303
>Ash is a bad metric. He's a low performer
Ignoring the meta factor on why that happened, not everyone is the same, some start low to end up high or fast to stop at a certain point unable to move.

There's also the fact that the anime is the only one that has almost every tournament be with a few hundreds participants iirc
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>>56920343
>ORAS Brendan
Again, kid stopped at least one physical god, then went into space riding not!Shenron and caught an alien. Preeetty sure him winning a tournament would be on the lower end of suspension of disbelief.
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>>56920343
Eh, that's passable.
Except for the gen 8 MCs none of them had a free journey.
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>>56920265
Is your character a protagonist or a normie pissant (sentient NPC character)? If its the latter they should fail the first few times before becoming Champion level to keep it believable.
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>>56920343
>the foxfucker fought Flannery's grandfather on even footing somehow. Which makes it funny that he's not supposed to be a particularly good battler
That's psychic link power for ya.
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>>56920286
>Is it believable for it to happen in a story where you're trying to make things work without breaking peoples' suspension of disbelief?
Anon, it's your job as a writer to make it believable. Any schmuck can write a plausible story about a random loser doing ordinary things. Actually selling to the audience why your character succeeded against the odds takes hard work and talent.
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>>56920286
Fortuitous encounters.
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>>56920265
It's a matter of trade offs. By writing a story where it's even possible for a protag to become the best in the first year as a trainer, you're putting a cap of how seriously the story can be taken and, in a way, diminishing the entire premise of pokemon training within your setting. It means the team has grown to the highest strength possible in that short time, that the MC learns and implements strategy to the same level as champions in their first season. It's something for a kids movie - like a first time little league coach taking their kids to win MLB in their first year.

So it wouldn't be believable, but that doesn't necessarily mean it would be bad. A lot of media is fundamentally unbelievable and succeeds by being compelling in other aspects.
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Hi, I’m the DawnxGoh guy.
Made some new stuff before I take an extended vacation.
https://archiveofourown.org/works/60597640/chapters/154719235
And here’s a lewd follow up to said stuff
https://archiveofourown.org/works/60602116
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>>56921921
Never read your stuff. What chemistry do these two literal who ash parasites share that makes reading their romance interesting
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>>56921960
One is hyper-preppy, the other is reserved. You put them together, you’ll get both insecurities sprouting up and different outlooks that eventually begin to find common ground.
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Fics where the protagonist is distant towards his Pokemon and treats them like weapons, doesn't grow attached to them, min-maxes the fuck out of them, and DOESN'T CHANGE by the end of the story? None of that tsundere "I-I'm definitely not attached to you guys you're just tools b-baka" bullshit where they're clearly hiding their true feelings.

Fuck the power of friendship, I want to read about someone succeeding while being a cold and callous badass. Bonus points if the Pokemon try to seek affection only to be shut down hard.
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>>56922225
Cringe
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>>56922225
The closest you'll get
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>>56922225
>"I want to read boring contrarian dogshit"

Wow, anon, what an original and unusual thought!
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In the next chapter so is gonna be the first time my MC's party is gonna encounter a large group of enemies all at once. To date the biggest battle I've done is a 3v3, but this one is gonna ultimately come to a 5v8 in some form or fashion.

How would you suggest handling battles against large groups of evil trainers? More or less official type battles, or simply a massive melee where everyone throws a Pokemon in and lets it rip?

I've already set a loose "rule" in my setting that it's very challenging to control more than one Pokémon in battle at a time, so only very high level trainers can participate in Double or Triple battles without teammates, to prevent the question of "why not just bumrush them with 6 Pokémon at once?"
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>>56922338
>How would you suggest handling battles against large groups of evil trainers?
Unironically giving the trainer a weapon to defend himself, why would a criminal play by the rules in a "realistic" setting? You also need to assign roles, who's in the frontlines, who deals with range, buffs and debuffs, healing.

Synergy between the party really is a break it or make it
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>>56922401
Sauce?
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>>56922338
Have the MCs divide the battlefield by sectors, have one (or more) of them focusing on AoE attacks/field control efforts, big hitter focusing the toughest-looking enemies, etc. Maybe have 1 or two mons/characters hold back and focus on shielding the rest of the party while they handle offense if you want to incorporate battefield stray attacks danger or something.

Like the other anon said, coordination and synergy are key for a good large-scale battle. Unless your objective is to purposefully paint things as chaotic, they'll need to sectorize or divide responsibilities to deal with a larger number of opponents.
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>>56922322
>wanting to read something novel is...LE BAD, THOUGH
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>>56922225
I've thought of doing this several times but each time abandoned it because I don't think I'd be able to stomach writing someone with that much edge for long enough to finish a story.
Characters like that are exclusively side characters for me. One of them's even going to perish in the first chapter of a story I have planned.
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>>56923305
>"novel"
>only reason it is "novel" it's because it's a dogshit idea.

No one wants to waste their time reading about an unlikable asshole that does not grow or change as an individual. Wanting to pass your redditor contrarian faggotry as an original idea is embarrassing
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>>56923539
This, desu. What's the point of a protagonist if they don't change or grow? Or have some kind of tragic, degeneration?
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>>56923552
I mean, flat characters exist, but their immutability depends on a compelling base and, more importantly, interesting context around them to take advantage of said flat character. LE EVIL is not a compelling base.
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>>56923539
You are an effeminate slave and I'm going to rape you if you ever speak out of line again.
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>>56924070

>Anon is exposed for the shifty taste having peasant he is
>instantly resorts to projecting weird sexual fantasies as a threat.

Many such cases
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>>56924254
I accept your concession, redditfriend.
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>>56923799
>flat characters exist
And we love them
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>>56924481
Now, you know for a fact that that's not what I meant and you're being facetious, but that's a great character you got there regardless.
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>>56923799
>flat characters
Static characters? Both can be used, like everything, it depends on skills
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>>56924543
You are correct, I mixed up my definitions. But yes, a static character. The original comment asked what's the point of a protagonist if he doesn't change and grow, and two of the biggest characters, Goku and Luffy, answer exactly that.
Still, those types of characters have to be compelling from the onset and need a rich, complex world around them to be interesting and a cookie cutter LE EVIL MANZ I feel is not the right way to go about it.
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>>56922225
One of the OCs on the Trainer OC thread is actually like that.
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>>56922225
Pokémon Dark Tidings is the closest I've read to that.
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New thread. NOW.
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>>56924784
You're so demanding

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