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>I want to learn the game, where do I begin?
Download PTCGL at https://tcg.pokemon.com/en-us/tcgl
The game has a quick tutorial and a bunch of decent decks to get you started against other beginners or against the AI. Some of those decks are very close to meta too. You can also go to your local game store and see if people are playing Pokémon.

>I know how to play, how do I make my own deck?
You have a decent beginner's guide at https://www.justinbasil.com/guide
There's also the old /tcg/ guide at https://imgur.com/a/W4NkOu6
After that, look up meta decks and try to reverse engineer them to see how things work.

>Where to find meta decks?
For big irl events, go to https://limitlesstcg.com/decks
For online events, go to https://play.limitlesstcg.com/decks?game=PTCG
For japanese events, go to https://pokecabook.com/archives/1417

Previous thread: >>56843128

Old /tcg/ pastebin: https://pastebin.com/Ge95YuMA
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>>56882576
>poison Dragapult
First time hearing of this. Got any list?
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what the FUCK am i supposed to do against pidgeot ex? Only use decks with attackers that can break 280? Stop it before it hits the table? every time its online it just feels like a matter of time before an evitable loss
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>>56882808
Be glad it isn't one of those po-faced braindead charishart ex decks.
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>>56882808
>Stop it before it hits the table?
Ideally yes. It's better to kill their lone pidgey instead of a charmander. It really hurts their set up

>Only use decks with attackers that can break 280?
Honestly a deck that can't hit 280 isn't gonna be very good anyway. You can't kill regidrago, palkia either. It's the damage threshold you need to be able to hit.
230, 280 and 330 are the big numbers your deck needs to be able to deal with. As that's the HP of the important targets in this meta
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What’s the meta in expanded format?
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>>56882751
https://play.limitlesstcg.com/decks?format=expanded
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>>56882884
>230, 280
I think you forgot about the #1 deck by usage rate
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>>56882958
oh yeah that fucker has 240. he really is unfair
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she
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fun
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>you can't win Pikachu is the best de-ACK
Get brocked on metapig. Roguechads where we at?
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>>56883381
Whoops, wrong general.
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>>56883325
More like unfun. I hate it like I hated Deluge Keldeo EX
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>>56883454
Reset Raging player's hand at the right time and enjoy your victory
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>>56882884
>Honestly a deck that can't hit 280 isn't gonna be very good anyway
Well shit, I guess I better abandon zoroark vstar sooner than later. Any suggestions as to what to build towards? thematically i like fighting, steel and future pokemon.
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>>56883970
Bro what are you on about Zoroark can hit up to 450 with Area Zero active, though you don't need to hit that hard
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moves are stored in the cube?
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What's a good secondary attacker to run in Stellar Eggs? Grass Ogerpon works but needs time to ramp and is contingent on the opponent.
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>>56884715
moves are data, cubes hold data, TM's have also been discs, floppies or digital blueprints, which hold data. This reinforces my theory that pokemon are a synthetic creation of humans to replace that which we killed off millennia ago. But it's been so long that pokemon are natural creatures now, and we "discovered" them and how they work technologically to the point where we store them as data in balls and upgrade their firmware with TM discs
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hi im new. what about a resource for finding non meta decks? just youtube or something?
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>>56884999
limitless for rogue decks like stall, mill, control, etc
if you want to build something yourself instead search for deck building guides like
>https://www.justinbasil.com/deck-building
so you build something decent and playable, and not just mash cards in a deck with no synergy
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So you can still lose points but only during master ranks. Arceus wont be totally free then
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>opponent finally damages my Blissey EX with their Hydrapple EX
>I then reveal three Munkidoris and put them onto the bench, remove 90 damage, and knock out two of their bench
>immediately concedes
LOL
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>>56884068
>with Area Zero active
i don't have that card. should I?
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>>56885323
How do you set up three Munki with energy in one turn? I assume some combo of normal attachment, Glass Trumpet+Happy Switch and an energy supporter, but that all seems quite clunky and lucky to have to hand. What did you use?
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>>56885727
My active was Blissey EX, and my bench was just Chansey. I evo'd the Chansey, got three Munkis through Nest Ball, Arven->Nest Ball, and Ultra Ball. Then just attach to one of the Munki. Good to go.
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>>56881616
>Gholdengo untouched
Do you have any tournament placing lists that aren't running Radninja and Palkia? Unless there's another "discard energy to draw 2" mon and a mon that accelerates itself with energy from discard in surging sparks I'd say the deck is fucked. It already requires enormous setup with those tools, not sure how you would patch the holes left when they're gone.
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>>56885874
Scizor versions are fine. Or revaroom. It has a bunch of good partners. It doesn't lose nearly as much as other decks

>Unless there's another "discard energy to draw 2" mon
ironically zoroark sometime after rotation when we start getting trainer mons.
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>>56885179
that seems fine to me if thats the case. it makes it faster for people who actually want to grind out the games to get to arceus. masters will still be the sweaty league like it supposedly has been before. while ultra ball and below will still have most of the new/semi competitive players that play greninja or 10 energy zard decks
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>>56885669
Only if you want 8 mons on your bench
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>>56886728
you think any of you guys will still be playing this game whenever there's an actual z rotation
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>>56886754
Sure, if they're still doing the letter regulations
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Precious Trolley might be the best Ace Spec in the game.
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>>56882751
This is the list I got right now. The trolley is the key here, it gets you everything instantly and puts so much pressure on your opponent that you don't even need Dragapult to get going until a few turns in depending on the matchup. I might add a Manaphy though just in case you go second versus Palkia or a late game Hydreigon.
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>>56887412
Looks fun, thanks for the list. So the game plan is to poison with Pecharunt active so you can finish off with Dragapult hitting 240 I assume?
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>>56882668
Is Gardevoir EX changing much with the new set?
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>>56882668
Haven't played Pokemon TCG before.
Care giving me you best shill post as to why you like it?
I've played a lot of Shadowverse, a bit of Yugioh, and a smattering of MTG and this seems different enough from all of those to give a whirl.
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>>56887586
It loses it's draw engine with Kirlia rotating, but anon here >>56881737 believes that it's gonna be fine if it takes the more aggressive approach with Secret Box and Fezandipiti ex.
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>>56887641
Wait, kirlia rotates out on Monday?

Shit I might just not be able to play, what letter is gone then?
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>>56887701
Oh wait I misread your post. It's not rotating yet, rotation happens around March next year.
With the new set there's really not much change to Garde, but as I mentioned there's been a more "fast" variant of the deck that includes Fez ex and Secret Box for quicker setup
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How would you guys build Tsareena ex as a rogue deck? There's the version with the ice cream, a ohko with the stage that makes poison deal 30 dmg, one where you use this bird with a 0 cost atk that finishes off all <30 HP pokes, etc., dunno where to begin.

I'd upload a pic of her but 4chan decided it won't let me today for some reason.
https://pkmncards.com/card/tsareena-ex-paradox-rift-par-046/
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>>56887531
Yes, you also always go first because if you start Pecharunt or the trolley you can poison for 80 before they get a turn and donk them. That's not consistent but the option is always there.
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>>56887746
bird that does 30 + ice cream is fun and can spiral into a win quickly, but it's really tough to make it consistent with all those parts

It's open up with that trainer who searches water pokemon or its over sometimes
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>>56887746
Try it with the new stadiums that gives/takes -30 HP
>put Lively Stadium down
>put damage counters on basic mons until 30 HP
>bump the stadium when you have enough basic mons ready to be KO'd
>profit
You can do the same thing with Gravity Mountain but you put damage counters first then put the stadium down. You can even target both basics and stage 2s by putting Lively Stadium down then bumping it with Gravity Mountain.
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Help? Consistently is mostly pretty good so far but I feel like I could still be a LITTLE more consistent with setting everything up every turn.

Pokémon: 10
2 Electabuzz SCR 46
1 Iron Hands ex PAR 248
1 Electabuzz SCR 46 PH
1 Squawkabilly ex PAL 247
1 Girafarig CRZ 61
1 Farigiraf ex TEF 108
3 Electivire BRS 47
1 Radiant Greninja ASR 46
3 Magneton SSP 59
3 Magnemite SVI 63

Trainer: 13
4 Ultra Ball SVI 196
4 Night Stretcher SFA 61
4 Ciphermaniac's Codebreaking TEF 145
2 Canceling Cologne ASR 136
2 Technical Machine: Devolution PAR 177
4 Professor's Research PAF 87
2 Earthen Vessel PAR 163
1 Super Rod PAL 276
2 Counter Catcher PAR 264
4 Nest Ball SVI 181
1 Prime Catcher TEF 157
2 Carmine TWM 204
1 Buddy-Buddy Poffin TWM 223

Energy: 2
1 Basic {D} Energy Energy 15
9 Basic {L} Energy Energy 12

Total Cards: 60
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>>56887622
I've played Yu-Gi-Oh! and Magic and One Piece and the main reason I like Pokemon TCG is there are no instant or surprise abilities that can be played during your opponent's turn. What you see on the board is what you get for that turn, end of story.

Plus, the evolution aspect is neat.
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>>56888187
1. Wtf is Dark energy for? Look at Farigiraf ex more closely
2. You do NOT need that many Ciphermaniac
3. Squawkabilly ex and Radiant Greninja being your only draw is bad. Put a 2-2 Bibarel/Dudunsparce line in there. Or a Hisuian Heavy Ball so you don't brick the whole game with both of them prized.
4. What's all the Night Stretchers for? You already run 3 fucking Magnetons!
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>>56888308
Thanks
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>>56887865
i'm fine with leaving it up to chance, i'll look for lists with those two
>>56887906
hey you're right, those stadiums will be great, i'll use them
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I miss Rayquaza.
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wait for zinnia's Fug
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>Queue okidogi deck
>Vs a fucking machamp deck
??? what is this rigged ass matchmaking for weakness. where are all the raging bolts
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Has anyone tried out any new decks for the new set yet? I saw some lists on limitless and yt with slaking/pidgeot and tried it myself and its pretty fun. its really only scary when you play against decks that dont use any ex/v pokemon. for instance, I almost lost to a tusk mill deck lol. A lot of lists Ive seen have been using fan rotom which at first I took out after some testing with the A.I. But after some matches I think I'm going to add it back in because I feel like the fan rotom adds another way to set everything up on my first turn.
>>56887239
yeah precious trolley is goated
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>>56889713
>its really only scary when you play against decks that dont use any ex/v pokemon
Why don't you use PAL Slaking and either Therapeutic Energy or Wind-Up Arm (until it rotates lel)?
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Right, so stop me if you've heard this one.

A monkey and a bear walk into a bar with bombs strapped to their chests...
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>>56889713
>>56890156
Actually, what's your list? I want to play Slaking too but I haven't put a deck together yet.
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been playing galavantula lately to dip my toe into stall, deck is super fragile but really fun if you get going. kinda sucks though cause you can't ohko most decks
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Hahahahha gotcha now faggot
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>>56889713
Snorlax got a lot weaker with rotations, unsure if it’s viable compared to something like pidgeot control
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>>56890458
*unzips cologne*
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>>56887239
Regibros I thought Trolley was going to make us S tier what happened?!?!?!
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>>56890773
but it is
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>>56890458
I switch to Mew ex and use your attack to do 70 damage. Since you have no energy on board you pass. I then knock out you first Mimikyu. I have full hp and your next pokemon get knocked out in 1 hit.

In short anon, you need a mist energy here.
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>>56882935
In live expanded the best deck is probably just Lugia. But there are plenty of fun decks to play that get close to being as good, feel free to get creative.
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>>56890263
I've been using this for now. I have been using the PAL slaking but Im not sure what to take out to add in a rotom and a therapeutic energy. I definitely think I can take out the rod. I haven't needed it so far
>>56890463
what has made the deck weaker?
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>>56887622
>cheap cards and decks(unless you're a bling bitch)
>not so smelly and actually fun community
>family friendly
>rotation means you don't need that precious, antique card
>(currently) good variation in the meta, over 10 competing decks with more rogue ones
>non-meta friendly formats like prerelease or GLC
just don't buy into the invooster meme, it's no different than wasting your money on slots
t. collector retard
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>special event in my country soon
>already signed up
>not a single deck I play feels right
>lousy match history, either second place or last
how did you find your deck? I still have roughly 3 weeks to register my deck, do I choose my highest winrate deck or copy one from limitless?
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>they don't play what they like best
>>56891821
Pick the one you are familiar with the most. Given the current meta, it's a rock paper scissors flamethrower ice cube water bucket game, so matchups are pretty fair. This means you have the best odds of playing correctly with the deck you enjoy/know the most, so you can accurately tech and plan your moves to work around or against your opponent's play
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Playing double turbo energy against this with no stadium removal was cancer lol
Good thing Iono-to-1 completely neuters people.
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Am I retarded if I want to play unlimited format? In MTG and other games I always play the formats that allow the most cards
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>>56890871
Holy fuck he actually misplayed I didn’t even notice that
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>>56892400
On PTCGL yeah because no one plays unlimited because it’s a weird format with bad access
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>>56891488
I honestly don’t know I stepped away for a couple months, noticed some cards in my deck were illegal, and when playing snorlax now it’s so different and much less effective, boss’s orders is in every deck and a lot run switch cart/switch
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I recently discovered that a new comic book store opened in my city and that they organize Pokémon TCG tournaments with a decent enough turn out (8-10 players).
I've played PTCGL a bit and I liked the game enough to make me want to attend the physical tournaments. I was thinking of buying the Charizard ex deck that comes out the 15th of this month and a few singles to start out. Should I add anything to this list?

2 Arven
1 Bibarel
1 Bidoof
1 Briar
1 Canceling Cologne
1 Cleffa
1 Collapsed Stadium
2 Counter Catcher
1 Dusclops
1 Dusknoir
2 Duskull
1 Fezandipiti ex
1 Forest Seal Stone
1 Lost Vacuum
1 Lumineon V
1 Manaphy
1 Mist Energy
4 Nest Ball
1 Night Stretcher
1 Pal Pad
1 Professor Turo's Scenario
1 Radiant Charizard
1 Rotom V
3 Super Rod
1 Thorton
1 Unfair Stamp
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>>56888657

i brew this up by taking notes from similar deck recipes i found, how does it look?

https://pokemoncard.io/api/url-shorten/tHa

Buddy-Buddy Poffin 4x
Tsareena ex 3x
Neo Upper Energy 1x
Arven 2x
Bibarel 2x
Boss’s Orders (Ghetsis) 1x
Iono 3x
Rare Candy 4x
Super Rod 1x
Ultra Ball 3x
Bidoof 2x
Professor's Research 4x
Gravity Mountain 1x
Artazon 2x
Colress's Tenacity 1x
Energy Search 2x
Lively Stadium 1x
Panic Mask 2x
Hisuian Braviary 1x
Bounsweet 4x
Skwovet 1x
Switch 2x
Rufflet 2x
Vanillite 2x
Vanilluxe 2x
Vanillish 1x
Steenee 1x
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>>56892926
>Neo Upper Energy
Trash, you don't need it. Use Grand Tree instead for faster setup. Or the almighty Prime Catcher to trap a mon in the active so you can safely Icicle Sole the bench.
>Energy Search 2x
Super trash. You're only running 1 type of energy, you're better off replacing them with the energies themselves. Or use Earthen Vessel for much better value.
>0 Irida
This is a no-no. You're missing out on a great combo of getting Tsareena/Vanilluxe + Rare Candy for a super quick setup. It can also get you Vanillite + BBP for a first turn setup.
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Day 3 of trying to find a Surging Sparks Magneton deck that works.

Pokémon: 5
4 Iron Crown ex
3 Magneton SSP 59
2 Magnemite SVI 63
2 Iron Hands ex
1 Squawkabilly ex

Trainer: 15
1 Switch Cart
3 Earthen Vessel
4 Buddy-Buddy Poffin
4 Arven
2 Iono
4 Future Booster Energy Capsule
4 Professor's Research
3 Night Stretcher
1 Prime Catcher
4 Ultra Ball
2 Counter Catcher
2 Carmine
1 Carmine
3 Techno Radar
1 Carmine

Energy: 1
9 Basic {L} Energy

Total Cards: 60

Thoughts?
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>opponent takes 10 extra minutes to play his one in a million perfect hand he got Iono'd into
Wouldn't make me so mad if he wasn't clearly a retard who doesn't know what half his cards do.
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>>56893114
thanks for the insight, friend. Don't know how i missed grand tree's existence. I'll also look the 4 Iridas since it makes too much sense when you put it that way
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>>56893604
>>56893114

I've updated the list, i'll try it with grand tree instead of prime catcher for now, and i added two counter catchers. Had to cut the prof researchs, maybe i could use them instead of colress's tenacity or ionos. but i'm unsure right now.

Pokémon (21)
3 Tsareena ex (Paradox Rift)
1 Steenee (Paradox Rift)
4 Bounsweet (Paradox Rift)
2 Vanillite (Paradox Rift)
2 Vanilluxe (Paradox Rift)
1 Vanillish (Paradox Rift)
2 Rufflet (Astral Radiance)
1 Hisuian Braviary (Silver Tempest)
2 Bidoof (Crown Zenith)
2 Bibarel (Brilliant Stars)
1 Skwovet (Paldean Fates)

Trainer (31)
1 Grand Tree (Stellar Crown)
2 Counter Catcher (Paradox Rift)
4 Irida (Astral Radiance)
2 Iono (Paldean Fates)
1 Boss’s Orders (Ghetsis) (Paldea Evolved)
1 Lively Stadium (Surging Sparks)
1 Gravity Mountain (Surging Sparks)
4 Rare Candy (Scarlet & Violet)
2 Arven (Scarlet & Violet)
1 Colress's Tenacity (Shrouded Fable)
3 Ultra Ball (Shining Legends)
4 Buddy-Buddy Poffin (Temporal Forces)
2 Panic Mask (Lost Origin)
1 Super Rod (Paldea Evolved)
2 Switch (Scarlet & Violet)

Energy (8)
8 Basic Grass Energy
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>>56893747
The period of time right after a new set releases on Live is the absolute worst. People either concede on turn 1 or 2 because their newly-cooked up deck isn't at least 99.9% consistent, or they don't know how to use their deck.
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>>56893758
the guy was a real trooper that simply played through his brick after brick when he didn't have an out to Neutralization Zone
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>>56893787
But... Exeggcutor ex's attack goes through Neutralization Zone?
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>>56893790
he wasn't able to draw energy to do it again after the first one was ko'd
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>>56893747
What deck are you using to include Hitmonchan?
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>>56893795
raw trash that just hopes to win via cornerstone and NZ. hawlucha is in it too because it's cool. i'm mostly playing like an 8 year old
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what's up with surging sparks? ive been able to preorder a single box of the latest set no problem but surging sparks is just not available or it's upmarked like crazy?
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>>56894020
Pikachu = High demand
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>>56894054
is that really all it is? christ
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>>56894020
this set and the next eevee set are being hyped up like crazy. its going to be hard to buy anything for a bit. hopefully that means all the useful stuff is going to be cheap since everyone is ripping packs. so far I was able to get an ace spec, 4 counter gain cards, and a handful of ex pokemon for just a couple bucks
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Even with all the shitty bugs it has I still appreciate Live for being able to replicate the holographic effects on cards accurately.
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>>56894322
what exactly is being so hyped about it? i dont follow the scene too closely i just like buying cards to open for myself
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>>56894392
People just really like cute fox evolutions.
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>>56894435
>Women, trannies, and collectors just really like cute fox evolutions.
ftfy
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The only Surging Sparks deck I've played so far that hasn't felt like a step down from last meta's standards is Poison Pult and that's just Precious Trolley. I think I'm gonna try a Trolley build of Zard/Arceus to abuse a board of Dusknoirs, I feel like the possibilities with this card can go crazy.
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>>56894907
None of them have broken anything. Ghosts, Zards and Pults are still destroying everything out there.
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>>56894381
They gotta fix the tint on FA mons/supporters though. It still has a green tint
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>>56895235
You forgot about long necked tigers
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>>56895614
Bolt? Shit now. Loses to Ogerpon control and Pikachu.
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What is poison pult
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>>56895659
A deck an anon crafted >>56887412
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>>56895691
Why can you have 3 of something
Pocketchad btw
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>>56895763
You just can if you play the actual TCG
You can even have 4 of something, unless there's a rule that says you can't (Radiant Pokemon, Ace Spec, etc)
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vroom seems to be the rage to partner with tera ceru, but what are you guys thoughts on ceru as a backup attacking line in gholdengo?
looking into it mainly for once rotation hits and the palkia builds die off, but I'm never quite happy with how it flows. feels like I'm trying to force a synergy of sorts, but it feels like there is and I'm also bad at making it work
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>>56897057
Gholdengo wants to discard energies AND get them back using Superior Energy Retrieval, while Ceruledge wants the energies to STAY in the discard pile, building up damage overtime until it OHKOs everything. I see what you're trying to do, but at the end of the day it's just counterproductive. It could technically be your last attacker for when you're out of energy retrievals and haven't won yet (for whatever reason) but does that guarantee you a kill like Gholdengo does?
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>opponent hits my pokemon for not enough damage because of resistance
>they go to take a prize but I stop them and explain that they didn’t get the KO
>opponent sees what I’m saying and takes a prize anyway

swear to god these mfers are lucky I’m not a rule shark, this was the 2nd opponent I had this tournament who fucked up
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>>56897533
>I’m not a rule shark
Not calling a judge is what makes these fuckers keep doing this. They either learn or stop playing.
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>beat Dark Zard with Revavroom ex
>his last attack just fails to KO because lol damage reduction
>thumbs up before attacking
Feels good man
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>>56897378
that is the main issue yeah, I was mostly seeing it as a game ending attacker option, but it needs to be juiced up way more than ghold does for big numbers so the deck itself becomes far less consistent overall to compensate it
appreciate the reality snap back from ya, I am just being stubborn with this
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>>56897533
>opponent sees what I’m saying and takes a prize anyway
Did he put it back??? Surely you didn't let him keep a prize card in his hand while your active was still on the field
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>>56897533
Knowledge gained (such as taking a prize) should 100% be called for the judge, and I say this as someone who hates rule sharking.
If you want to be "nice" then allow a 1 play take-back in tournaments, for stuff that isn't knowledge gained. Things like:
>attaching to 1 mon instead of another
>putting a mon on the bench instead of another
>attaching a Tool but then taking it back
>pulling out a card from the deck from a card search but then changing your mind before continuing play
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>watch Azul's stream
>someone else copied my Pika Regi deck
Fuck off.
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>>56899408
>"my deck"
Go outside
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>>56899604
FUCK OFF YOU FUCKING CUNT I WAS SUPPOSED TO GET CREDIT FOR THIS IDEA I COOKED UP FUCK OFF
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>>56899160

Yes, they took a card from their hand (I've no clue it if was the original prize), put back with their prizes, and shuffled them.

My previous opponent mash shuffled their hand into their deck when I played Iono, then said it was fine and that he'd find the cards he had in hand, take them out, shuffle his deck, and then put those at the bottom. I don't think either idiot was trying to cheat, but I'm officially out of patience with both of them. They won't get any more grace from me.
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>>56899623
You still have time to play in a tournament and win with it :)
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What caused Banette ex to become popular recently? Like, why isn't it played much in the last sets compared to this one? I thought the meta didn't change much
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Hot damn Klawf decks are really evolving in JP like wtf are these decks???
https://pokecabook.com/archives/62558
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>>56886102
What are these cards?
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>>56900460
Zoroark and Reshiram by the looks of it
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>>56900460
https://www.pokebeach.com/2024/08/owners-pokemon-returning-and-team-rocket-set-teased-at-worlds
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>>56900487
>still no news on the Team Rocket set
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>lose any coin flip
>close game
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>>56900571
I don't think I've ever seen a meta so heavily dependent on who goes first or second, other than this one.
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>>56900487
> Here is your waifu with shit ass ability lmao
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>>56900571
You do realise there is literally NO downsides now to losing, right? You don't lose any ladder points at all.
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>>56899852
The previous opponent Iono thing, I think it's just better to let the shuffled card be gone. The way he did it, he -could've- cheated by putting dead card he knew he didn't want to the bottom of the deck. You wouldn't know otherwise.
Leaning experiences
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>>56900879

Sure, but him shuffling his hand into his deck could be him trying to get whatever was in his hand closer to the top. There's no winning for me there. Well, outside calling over a judge and my opponent basically getting an instant game loss.
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>every game today OP draws exactly what they need
>I draw fucking garbage

Game's uninstalled and all the cards I bought are going in the fucking garbage. I'm done with this shit.
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>>56901100
Skill issue.

What deck are you using, anon? Do you have 4 Research, 4 Carmine and 4 Pokegear?
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>>56901114
I was playing Iron Thorns and Venomoth. Every fucking game is shitzard. Getting constantly shit on isn't fun and when I stop having fun game's get uninstalled and anything applicable goes into the trash.
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>>56901133
I don't know about Venomoth but Iron Thorns generally steamrolls Zard, unless they happen to draw their 1 Cologne. That's when I whip out my surprise Cornerstone Ogerpon though.
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>play this with neutralization zone backup
>if opponent draws out(s) i lose
>if i end the game before they get their out(s) i win
this feels really unskilled and unfun. is this what control decks boil down to? or is this just how ccgs function?
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>>56901161
I've been playing Cornerstone / Noivern / Milotic control. Pretty decent, though it gets steamrolled by Lugia, Terapagos + Zoroark and Regidrago to an extent.
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>>56901100
Alright, I'm done being mad. Game's getting reinstalled and my cards were never touched.
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>>56901161
>is this what control decks boil down to?
Pretty much
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>>56900270
I wonder whats the point of item locking someone with banette. is it just to stop someone from spamming dusknoir and board wiping you?
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>>56901327
It's a potential of 120 damage item lock
>30 base
>10 poison
>40 mochi
>20 sneasler
>20 jungle
It wipes out the small basics quickly with disrupting the opponent. But I'm not sure which matchups you even need that for.
It is also a single cherry picked list, no one else uses bannette in klawf.
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>>56901161
Yeah OG control decks have various outs to winning like >>56901178 with noivern/milotic too
Snorlax isn't even control, it's stall. Hoping they don't have switch.
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This may be the most useless card I've ever seen.
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>>56902331

you haven't seen very many pokemon cards, have you?
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Trying to make this meme work
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>>56902356
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>>56900979
For an LGS weekly tournament, even paid entry, I wouldn't care.
If it were a box tournament or any official Pokemon tournament with real prizes, I would. As my group says, we take those. Opponent's fault for playing sloppy. Sucks to suck.
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>>56902391
Oh this is sick, way more efficient and easier to recur
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>>56900571
>>56900762
>lose flip, go second
>get stage 1 basic in active and nothing else
>expecting opponent to turn 2 win as he Ultra Balls Zard
>he just adds more basics to bench and ends turn
>eventually pull back and win
Never lose heart at the coin flip. Your opponent may well have a shit hand or brain.
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>>56902575
Bench out is really really scary. Gastrodon and Rabsca both require evolution which cannot happen until at least your second turn.
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>waiting for player
>............
>player is deciding whether they wanna flip heads or tails
>.........
>Player decided
>Flipping the coin
>Coin flip
>........
>Player won the coinflip
>Player is deciding whether they wanna go first
>.............
>..............
>............
>You are going second
>You have no cards to play, waiting for player to set up before you can mulligan
>.............
>..............
>...............
>Player finished setting up
>You mulliganed once
>Player is deciding how many cards to draw
>.................
>................
>................

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THESE FUCKING DEVS? WHY DOES IT TAKE SO GODDAMN LONG TO START A FUCKING GAME???!!!


Just make it random every goddamn time like MtG and speed up the fucking process. This is ridiculous. Nothing dissuades me more from playing this shit than how loooooooong it takes to start a fucking game.

Do away with the mulligan shit too, and just do it like Pocket where you'll always start with at least 1 basic. This is ridiculous.
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>>56902691
They could also copy the way Master Duel does it, where it flips one coin and you see heads if you won the roll for you, tails if you lost it while it shows it the other way for the opponent, and whoever won gets to choose to go first. No idea why the game has you choose if you want heads or tails.
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>>56902718
>No idea why the game has you choose if you want heads or tails.
So you can show off your coin.
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>>56902718
Whatever they do, they need to make it faster. Way faster. It should take 10, 20 seconds most to decide who goes first and set up the board. Not UPWARDS OF FIVE MINUTES.

The coinflip if they do it, should take 2 seconds, with a 5 second timer to decide.
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>Regi still takes too long to set up even with Precious Trolley
>feel my sanity losing grip as I'm actually considering putting Squawk into this deck
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good morning sirs. you know what to do
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>>56902728
Why would you lose your sanity by putting in cards that would improve your deck? Add a Carmine too while you're at it for extra turbo.
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>>56902935
It's an easy 2 prize target and takes up bench space which I need for Greninja and 2 other Teras (in case 1 gets knocked out and the stadium stops working).
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>>56902964
If you're trying to attack turn 1/2 then you should be ahead of the prize count by the time they KO your Squawk.
What are you charging up with Regigigas anyway?
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>>56902990
Greninja or Pika.
I'm keeping fighting energies just in case but on the ladder so far I haven't seen any Miraidon decks at all.
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>>56902739
Thank you anon.
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>>56903010
Why not use Noctowl in the Regi deck? Could search the stadium and Trolley instantly.
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Does this card actually exist? I can't find it anywhere.
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>>56903570
Idk try asking here >>56903185
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>>56903594
i mean irl anon
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>>56903570
From what I've seen, Pocket uses existing art for normal cards and has new art for any exs and full arts.
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>>56903700
ah, damn it. thanks
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>>56902691

They just need to bring back that bell that way you can go and do something else and then come back when your hear the bell.
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play Pikachu in pocket
play Pikachu on the live
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>>56882668
brewed this myself, thoughts /tcg/?
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>>56903570
DONT POST POCKET HERE FAGGOT DIE DIE DIE DIE POCKETFAG DIE
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>>56903955
touch grass
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>>56892883
idk what's in the charizard ex deck but looks good

>>56892926
export using something that would structure, and add set codes, etc plz
>>56893706
why are you running switch over switch cart, strictly better, and I dont think you survive the stall/pidgeot control matchup very well, 1 boss and 2 switch doesn't seem like enough
>>56893570
ur running 2 non ex basics what could u possibly use 4 bb puffin for, no squawkabilly in place of a carmine? also ur running so few energy for a deck built around iron hands
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>>56903951
BASED WINGS ENJOYER
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>lose the first match, have a great start for the second match
>14 minutes remaining, already 2 prizes ahead
>the opponent takes 6 minutes benching pokemon, using a colress tenacity, searching for items, etc.
>my turn, take another prize
>the opponent takes another 6 minutes doing the exact same thing
>ends his turn the second we run out time
>tries to downplay it as "having a hard time deciding what to do"

I know I can call a judge but because I lost everyone will assume I am a sore loser and use it against me in the future.
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>>56904182
thanks I love a gimmick
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>>56904195
if you just explain yourself calling a judge for slow play is totally normal
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how bad is machamp 151? could I make a single prize deck based around it? suggestions?
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>>56905075
nah unless they print a card letting you reflip a coin, its effect is too inconsistent and it's attack does too little damage, but if you like the mill effect play hydreigon
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>>56905075
Too difficult to chain stage 2s and energy. Others with 2 attachments like tyranitar ex also suffer from this issue.
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>>56905409
>its effect is too inconsistent and it's attack does too little damage, but if you like the mill effect play hydreigon
i figured as much. i'll look into hydregion
>>56905680
>Too difficult to chain stage 2s and energy. Others with 2 attachments like tyranitar ex also suffer from this issue
oh but what if i make a 0 supporter claydol deck to strap two shitty pokemon together??? and for whatever reason i'm using machamp to accelerate onto instead of raging bolt
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>>56905700
>oh but what if i make a 0 supporter claydol deck to strap two shitty pokemon together???
the problem with stage 2s is getting rare candy + the stage 2 together. it at minimal requires ultra ball + 2 discard + rare candy so even with the best supporter arven you need 1 piece in hand already.
irida saves water stage 2 shitmons because it can fetch both the stage 2 + rare candy, but other types don't have that luxury
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>>56897533
>>56904195
Always call a judge. Idiots will never learn unless they are reprimanded.
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I wanna build a draft box featuring cards from all eras.
I wanna include at least one of every card type (ex, GX, LEGEND, Break etc.)
Any tips?
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how f2p friendly is live? if i like making random decks how long would it take me to save enough resources to build a deck?
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>>56907845
I did 15 free pulls and got a grass/water/fire/fighting/electric/psychic deck.
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>>56882668
I know this has probably been brought up before, but wouldn't the game be more balanced if your opponent drew a prize card if you knocked out their pokemon? And then the first to run out of prize cards loses?
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>>56908174
Yes and yes.
But I think I get the logic on why it's like it is right now. It's called "prize cards", so it makes sense for the person who is "winning" to take the "prize". Also it's probably meant to encourage children to win since this is a "children's card game" as they say.
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I downloaded the client and installed it, but whenever I boot it up and select language it loops back to the language select.
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>>56908207
I know it's obviously too late to change it, and it is a kids card game, despite the fact that I collected for illustrations as a kid and only learned to play in my teens. (by emulating the GB TCG)
I might try it out as homebrew rules sometime, just to see how it affects strategy. I imagine the difference in casual wouldn't be noticeable, but comp decks would probably shift strategy more towards control.
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>>56907845
I made a mistake, you asked about "live" but I am playing TCG pocket.
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>>56908391
Live is not available for all regions you'll need a VPN to play
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>>56908174
I think that would just only buff control/stall decks. they dont have to worry about taking prize cards to win and then they have their entire deck to work with while anyone wanting to play aggressively would be punished
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Tourist here. I've been getting back into collecting the physical cards and I have a nice stack of those digital codes or whatever that come in the packs. Is code dumping a no-no here? Does anyone care?
Just tossing em seems like a waste
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>>56908956
>Is code dumping a no-no here? Does anyone care?
It's plenty fine, we like them since it lets you get cards/credits ot craft cards to use online.
If you care for actual people getting them, then block the QR codes, someone just bot scans them otherwise. Sometimes people post their pulls if they got something cool from them
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>>56908956
pls post with qr censored and last or first digits censored but mentioned in your post too
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>>56909000
>>56908983
Good to know, I have a decent amount of these so it might be a little slow

J, B, J, M
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>>56909081
R, Y, R, X
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>>56908409
Cards that interact with prizes like Counter Catcher would be broken if not adjusted accordingly.
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>>56909081
>>56909132
Cute doodles. I'll let others have it since I'm busy rn
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>>56909132
L, R, J, R
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>>56909132
i was entering these and had the first three in the list, obf, obf and koraidon ex. The last one showed redeemed and once I hit collect all they disappeared?
i guess Live will not hold codes for you if someone else enters them before you finalize the redemption. Fucking Bullshit I say I wanted that koraidon
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>>56909202
L, J, T, N

>>56909239
F
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>>56909351
2, 2, B

That's the last of em, sorry if my dyslexic ass fucked any up, enjoy
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If you're not gonna leave codes for others at least post gets assholes
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This is my zeroth revision of my
Anon? Deck
It's a 2024 Re...Make? Reimagining? of the GB2 "Weird Deck"
What are my odds of winning, lads? And can YOU sing the PokeRap?

Psyduck E024 - x3
Golduck G055 - x2
Slowpoke H057 - x3
Slowbro F020 - x2
Drowzee G082 - x3
Hypno E062 - x2
Farfetch'd G083 x3
Pyukumuku E077 x2

Total: 20
- - - - -
Imakuni? GEN 63 - x2
Meddling Memo H181 - x2
Snorlax Doll G175 - x2
Echoing Horn E136 - x2
Dancer E232 - x2
Dan D158 - x2
Energy Loto F140 - x3
Pokemon Communication TEU 152 - x3

Total: 18
- - - -
Water Energy - x8
Psychic Energy - x10
Double Colorless - x2
Medical Energy - x2

Total: 22
- - - -

Total:
60
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>>56909239
Sometimes when you claim them they go straight to your collection instead of showing the pack opening
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>>56909635
not this time I guess as I tried putting the code again and it said redeemed by someone else :(
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>>56909555
>E024
Are these supposed to be regulation marks? just post the expansion nigga
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>>56909430
>>56909351
>>56909202
>>56909132
>>56909081
Soulful drawings. Thanks for sharing codes with us anon
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>raging bolt is so braindead and linear! It only has one wincon!
you are simply bad at the game. now watch as I out mill this pikastall deck
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What are the current counters to Stellar Pikachu? I've added PAR Slither Wing to my Raging Bolt deck on advice of my friend but I don't know what fits into other decks. I can run Cancelling Cologne but that rotates in March.
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>>56911380
good for you anon, raging bolt is always fun for me to stall against :^)
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zard ex league battle deck only costs 600 crystals for whatever reason, making it better for credit farming than celebrations
the pricing could be just a mistake they'll fix later tho, might wanna buy them asap if they announce something
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>>56911504
how many crystals should I spend though?
there's not that many things worth buying with crystals, who knows what they'll add after these "economy changes"
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>>56911523
Spend it all. You only need to save around 2000 crystals at a time for any future shop bundles with deck cosmetics you want.
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>>56911557
what if in the future they add some good stuff to buy with crystals though? I don't need that many credits right now or somewhat in the future
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>>56911523
wtf are they getting rid of crystals what do I do
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>>56911611
No, just coins
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>>56911595
>what if in the future they add something better
that will always be a possibility at any point in the game's lifespan
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>>56909674
>>56909555
I was going to crop off the ugly watermark.
But... they did provide a service, so they can have their billboard as far as I'm concerned.
(Thanks for the cards images for ants.)

I hope to make Imakuni? proud.
Anon?'s Weird Deck Version 0.1
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>>56911949
image
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>>56911954
and for comparison
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I downloaded the game yesterday and have been enjoying it. I only have 160 cars and I'm only level 7 and packs have already dried the fuck up. I can only reclaim the 2 packs a day. What the hell man
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Need 1 friend 3105-9941-6048-5917
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>>56912107
are you talking about pocket you fucking retard
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>>56912107
>>56912117
Dipshits begone:
>>56912281
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>>56911967(me)
>>56911954(me)
Oh, I forgot my "Gambler" equivalent.
Which, the only card I could find similar is Drasna.
So, -1 Water Energy, +1 Drasna

I have a lot of 'Draw' cards, because that was the strat back in the early 2000s. I don't know how that would translate to today.
This isn't meant to be a competitive deck, but it should be playable.

Any 'weird' cards that recycle discarded cards back into the deck?
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You think Creatures is gonna get someone to make their master duel equivalent someday considering their duel links equivalent seems pretty successful?
There being a lot of discussion and even some art around pocket gives me the impression it wouldn't actually take much to get people into the game TCG
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>>56911504
>zard ex league battle deck only costs 600 crystals for whatever reason
zard is one of the free decks given outright so there really should be no reason to buy the battledeck
anyone know the exact credit number for it if you got 4x dupes on all?
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>>56911504
>>56913604
Oh it's probably a bug, league battle decks normally cost 1250. Probably worth dumping your crystals on that then before it's patched
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>>56913604
>anyone know the exact credit number for it if you got 4x dupes on all?
2690
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>>56913790
Even my best celebrations opening has only given 5k so this is by far superior, and doesn't need nearly as much set up getting 4x.
Really worth using crystals on before they fix the pricing
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I have like 500k crystals so I'm good lol
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>>56914159
waiting for the next exploit so I can b like you
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>>56914159
Was too afraid of being banned so I didn't do much of that before. I've since crafted everything with the preferred art I want up till surging sparks and have 5k crystals and 50k credits on hand. I think that's enough to get by if I don't craft expensive stuff before finishing the battlepass, especially now that we get 9 booster crates for SIRs
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Better keep enough credits to craft the bling cards next set
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>>56914831
Also what could possibly be the actual worst ace spec

Treasure Gadget – Trainer
Supporter (ACE SPEC)

Search your deck for up to 5 Pokémon Tool cards, reveal them, and put them into your hand. Then, shuffle your deck.
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>finally force myself to log in and play
>lose the starting coin flip because why wouldn't I
>draw a single dog shit basic
>op has full board T1
>don't draw anything useable
>alt f4
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>>56914833
>blocks your path
Also, it can't be worst than Poke Vital A in a OHKO format. Decks like Klawf needs lots of tools and this can get them easier while being able to put Perilous Jungle in the stadium spot instead of Town Store
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>>56914310
>>56914628

I didn’t even exploit.
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>>56914871
Poke vital at least has uses vs a bunch of the big decks, you can avoid dragapult 2hko on your active stage 2. but yeah that's incredibly niche but it's not completely useless in relevancy

the problem with that ace spec is arven and town store exist. there's the new TM machine item card which pulls 3 TMs if you want it for a tool drop deck, the kind of deck that would want to pull 5 tools
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>>56914833
cool
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>>56914953
You can put both in your deck. Turbo Garbodor.
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>>56914871
>>56914953
>>56914993
Now if only there was a reliable way to recover discarded tools.
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>>56914831
I don't usually bling my decks but I might now because I really like that gholdengo and ursaluna
>>56914871
yeah I thought about klawf too. but it still might just use secret box since that can give you a tool and other things as well
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>>56915366
2 of these bad boys can get you 4 back easy. But I agree that it would be much better to have more options to recycle tools
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Has there been anything interesting in LatAm?
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PTCGL price error on the Charizard ex League Battle Deck - should be 1250 crystals, but is listed at 600 crystals. Yields the best crystal-credit return out of anything in the store.
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>>56916597
Not pocket general
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>>56916597
>coin flip tcg
imagine
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>>56916804
Thanks
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LAIC25TOPAZBOLT
Free Pikachu ex code
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Who's got pairings?
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>>56917014
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is there a way to fill an imported deck that has different rarities than i do wifh my rarities when i import it? or do i habe to click Available and sort through it all manually? feels so tedious
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>>56914953
I must have missed something, when are we getting this?
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>>56917433
have to do it manually yes
TCG Live Seal of Quality
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>>56917249
And hearthfire cosmetics for leaving the stream on for 90 minutes
https://www.twitch.tv/pokemontcg
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>>56917479
It's a gym promo in JP so it'll eventually be added to one of the western sets. Sometimes it's quick, sometimes it takes a year like with garganacl ex
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>>56917578
stream died. I guess Im not getting my cosmetics lol
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>>56917871
You still have two more days plus the replays.
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>>56917989
that's not a pokemon
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>>56918468
That's a Grumpig
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Anyone have a Cinderace EX deck?
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>>56918704

nobody has ever made the mythical cinderace ex deck... I don't even think it's possible, just a old wives tale...
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>>56919129
Dang it! I'm too much of a noob to understand how to build decks in this game yet
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>>56919383
check out justin basil's deck building guide, but basically you want 3-4 lines of a main 'mon, a handful of supporter 'mons, enough energy to attack with all lines, 3-4 copies of trainers for draw, search, recover and setup, with 1-2 extra techs or combos
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>>56919383
just look up cinderace ex deck on youtube and copy a list
if you're a noob don't worry about trying to find the best list right away, just play and get a feel for it
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BROS what am i going to do with my tsareena with irida goes away...
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>>56919632
play something else
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>>56919691
thats sad. i havent lived through a set rotation yet in my play time, ill miss my deck
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>>56919702
you can still play in expanded or casually irl.
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Is it too late to get into Pokémon? I haven’t played since I was 9
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>>56920164
The TCG? Nah never. It's one of the easier TCGs to pick up compare to others like yugioh and magic
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>>56920189
Is there a main site to look up good decks?
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>>56920164
no, in fact they just released a new beginner precon deck for like $30. live has a bunch of starter decks too.
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>>56920244
Limitless is usually the go to site

Newer up to date lists from online tourneys
>https://play.limitlesstcg.com/decks?game=PTCG
Irl tourney results but may not have newer cards as they weren't legal at the time
>https://limitlesstcg.com/decks

Instead of trying to make your own deck it's a lot better to start off copying decklists, then when you're familiar enough with them you can start editing them with your own preferences
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How incompetent can a card store clerk be? I asked the local guy for any beginner stuff and he swears he has a Gardevoir box or whatever that's good for beginners but couldn't find it and told me to come back another day
LMAO
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>The department store I work at just leaves all the Pokemon TCG products out in the open with the rest of the kids toys without even putting any security tags on them
Literally all they have on there is these little magnetic stickers on the outer packaging that you can just peel off super easily.
It's so weird just seeing this shit just sitting on a shelf, not behind glass or behind the counter. Basically zero security at all.

It's not the first time they've done this shit either. There was this big, 150 dollar Mew themed box that they were selling that they did this with a few months ago too.
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TCG live is the worst fucking client ever and I hate it. I miss TCGO like you wouldn't believe
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How do I start collecting, bros? I don't particularly care about playing the game, so should I just buy rnadom "loose" packs or one of those big boxes?
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>>56920884
>>56917253
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>>56920909
thanks
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Been having a lot of success so far online with Dialga Archaludon. Currently running 3 Adamans, Prime Catcher, Squawk, Rad Greninja, and a single Vitality Band.
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>>56921209
Is that Dialga V? What's your list?
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>>56921288
2 Duraludon SCR 106
1 Zamazenta CRZ 97 PH
1 Squawkabilly ex PAF 223
2 Duraludon SCR 106 PH
3 Origin Forme Dialga V ASR 113
1 Radiant Greninja ASR 46
4 Archaludon ex SSP 130
3 Origin Forme Dialga VSTAR ASR 114

3 Adaman ASR 135
4 Night Stretcher SFA 61
4 Professor's Research PAF 87
4 Earthen Vessel PAR 163
4 Ultra Ball CRZ 146
1 Vitality Band SSH 185
4 Boss's Orders PAL 172
4 Nest Ball SVI 181
3 Switch CRZ 144
1 Prime Catcher TEF 157

11 Basic Metal Energy
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ancient capsule does nothing for pika right? this dude was a lugia tier so something about this deck was getting him wins but I can't see what it is. is pika just that goated?
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>>56921628
Man, fuck regidrago.
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>>56922166
>uxie randomly
>also water energy
dunno what that guy was doing. with quaxwell seems like they just edited the free pikachu deck

>is pika just that goated?
a lot of decks don't respect it. raging bolt usually doesn't have any way around it so match ups like lost box are incredibly bad now
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>>56919383
I used limitless to get deck lists b4 I built
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>>56920164
its never too late
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this a girl on stream or a tranny? rose is a tranny name for sure
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>>56922231
regidrago is better than niggerledge
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>>56922909
No wonder this card is so expensive
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>>56922689
The obsession is real lol
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Anyone had any luck with the new Scovillain?
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>>56923853
Jesus
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>>56923857
The only downside so far is this deck... occasionally takes a turn or 2 setting things up because you need Magma Basin and several evolved mons up by turn 2, PLUS you need to wait a turn or 2 for them to do decent damage with Frosslass's Ability.
So it's not the fastest deck, but it has no real hard counters at least. Maybe adding a Gastrodon would help it survive a bit longer.
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>>56922689
I'm pretty sure it's a biological female
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>>56922831
>already mad at new hotness
fucking cry
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