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I will never financially recover from this.

>>56890359
you will if you're level 60

>>56890363
I was level 60 before and it was a weeks long struggle. Pretty soon after OGPP released I reached it and still had to basically empty my dream cluster stock.

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Ehhh... Usable, but it really does only have Ingredient Finder M. Everything else is practically useless.

>>56891713
>male
candy

Maleschizo...

>>56891713
Vaporeon or Glaceon/Flareon if you think making Macaroons is worth it for Desserts weeks.

>>56890359
I'm still sitting at a 63 ingredient pot. I can't reliably make the larger recipes anyways, so I won't bother for a long time.

>>56893117
It's just tickles my autism if i keep it as is.

I need a LOT more reliable ingredient Pokemon. I can basically only get high quantities of Fiery Herbs, Milk, Sausage,.and Oil.

what am I supposed to do if I want to farm Stufful spawns? I need a corn farmer urgently

>>56894651
go to lakeside lapis
hope to get a stufful incense mission
get to master 1 quick as possible
do 2 slumbering sleep sessions a day and hope for the best
if pogo++: "sleep" with pogo++ and make movement every 2 hour to get slumbering.
that's all i got

>>56894942
That's all there is, too.

I need advice for curry and to a lesser degree salads. Whats a good, easy to achieve recipe to aim for? My pot is at 45, and theres a few ingredients that aren't feasible to consider. Most of my ingredients mons are low level outside of my great ABB lvl42 blastoise,

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3 friends slacked off over 5+ days, so opened those slots up.

Add: 3107-9468-7371

>>56897177
It's so over?

>>56897177
is this bad or good though?
they are moving the development in house?

also, unrelated, is a Go++ worth it?
I'm finding a local offer that's around $40 after conversion, I could probably haggle a little
Idk if you can "cheat" sleep styles as easily as a phone though

>>56897177
Rip in peace. It was good while it lasted.

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>>56897177
Man I just got into this game a few months ago, it better not be going into maintenance mode

>>56897177
This is terrible, isn't it?

>>56897177
If they're building an entirely new team to work on the game I wonder what the priorities would be, the current team releases content at a decent cadence

I haven’t played in so long and now I’m trying to remember how any of this worked

The one downside of mobile games is I can’t make a second save slot to remind myself of how shit works and then go back to my actual save

>>56897495
Ad campaigns are still going strong for Pokémon Sleep, they're actually incredibly high effort, like having animations just for Clefairy or Mimikyu, or getting that Dua Lipa promo (which is high enough production that they might even play it in cinema screenings)

https://youtu.be/2mGeoqL7Trg
https://youtu.be/S6CMXCutjwc
https://youtu.be/1e0gyWiJi_s
https://youtu.be/zIxNv4-V-kg
https://youtu.be/fsbIGZLIwGs
https://youtu.be/xAPQ2lkbFhY
https://youtu.be/vAyX663uuhE
https://youtu.be/3MTQwHDMrcM
https://youtu.be/fwbfS5fP1vg
https://youtu.be/Jo7uRco5YZ4
https://youtu.be/KghsZQSXG8g

TPCi is clearly seeing returns on Sleep and are continuing to support it, but on the other hand you can see that Select Button more than likely only planned up to level 100 with two more islands, which would really be limiting themselves.

>>56897495
It might not be an entirely new team, but a team made of people poached from Select Button.

>>56897177
As long as it's not GameFreak, it's probably fine? Not entirely sure what this would mean for the game. There are other Pokemon spinoff mobile games, but I don't recall any of them being directly under TPC.

>>56897838
>Dua Lipa collaboration
Miles better than Ed Sheeran and Post Malone. Still hate the credits song in SV.

with the recent news it is OBVIOUS they are gonna implement a pokemon transfer system

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Eevee week bundles... Pretty standard except the rare inclusion of a Main Skill Seed in the bundle L.

Friendship over 50 Eevee and having constant triple Gold Skills is terrible. They keep cucking slots for Skill Trigger or Helping Speed for dumb shit like Research EXP Bonus, Dream Shard Bonus, Energy Recovery Bonus, and Sleep EXP Bonus.

>>56897838
>only planned up to level 100 with two more islands
how do you figure there's only two more islands when we're only at level 60? We've had two new islands from release and that's covered going from 50-60, there's no reason they can't do leftover berries + greengrassbuthard then release new berry combinations for turquoise beach and snowflake steppe before doing greengrassbutsuperhard

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>>56902537
If you look at the trend of Sleepdex goals, every new goal increased area bonus by 5%, except for the current last goal of 390 sleep styles which gives a 10% bonus from 65% to 75%.
The datamined cooking pot upgrades also only go up to 84 so far (+15 / 5*+3 from 69).
That part doesn't quite line up though, since each Sleepdex goal gives two cooking pot upgrade unlocks, and previously datamined cooking pot upgrades were also changed so this part is equally subject to change.
The key part is that each map unlock is separated by one sleep dex goal, with the most recent being Old Gold Power Plant at 340, and 390 being the current last.

You can study this and extrapolate out probable key milestones:
>440 sleep styles: Dragon/Bug/Poison Island, Max Map Bonus 80%
>490 sleep styles: Max Map Bonus 85%
>540 sleep styles: Final Random Island, Max Map Bonus 90%
>600 sleep styles: Max Map Bonus 100%
Though this would end on a cooking pot capacity of 93 if each goal gives 2x +3 unlocks. So, unless the last two instead give 3x +3 unlocks, there might be five additional Sleepdex goals rather than the 4 I've considered here.
The game has suggestions that they want to end on round numbers, ingredient and item bag maximum storage will probably finish on a round 1000 similar to Pokémon storage.

I get the impression that they're going to drag their heels on these final few unlocks now to artificially extend the lifespan of the game, and keep the research rank/level cap unlocks in-line with those ingredient space upgrades.
Next new island could have a new cap of level 75 or 80, final island could be the level 100 final cap.
There is after all only the two subskill unlocks after level 60, and the EXP curve will be so high that it takes ages to get there. The level curve actually would mean berry strength would probably be more valuable than the subskill unlocks themselves in many cases.

>>56902392
some of the mechanics of the game HAVE to get changed sooner than later
you can't just expect to ever get a pokemon at Lv60 unless you started the game since launch, always sleep at 60 and even use all your candies to level up, jeez
(i'm obviously exaggerating a bit but the point still stands)
guaranteed gold skills just aren't good, if not for BFS

>>56902743
>That part doesn't quite line up though
>previously datamined cooking pot upgrades were also changed so this part is equally subject to change
>there might be five additional Sleepdex goals rather than the 4 I've considered here
>You can study this and extrapolate out
anon....
like, you're probably not wrong regarding what was initially planned, but it also seems that that's changed given the schedule they've released content and caps. Also, capping island bonus at 100% would be very counterproductive to the presumed ultimate goal of having people play and pay for this game forever. Like it'd be very easy for that to go to 1000% to enable stupid high drowsy power islands
And eventually some way to reset your level 100 pokemon to go back to level 1 but buffed up so they can keep expanding the pot

>>56903870
The content of the game can only be finite, really. Every new Pokémon to add is new assets, new sleep styles, new stats etc.
There's a shitload of Pokémon not featured, but many wouldn't be practical to feature due to their nature, like river or ocean dwelling fish Pokémon, or don't "fit the vibe"

The game balance was probably figured out pretty early on with how berry strength would curve, what the strength/DP goals should be for each island and realistic progression of a casual player running level 50+ whatevers without paying attention to stats. What I mean is the Master 20 goals for each island are likely balanced around running max level teams for given caps over time, like how Master 20 at Greengrass is currently very achievable under certain conditions usually factoring events or Good Camp tickets.
That by extension, once you finally, finally get level 100 helpers, that actual strategy falls to the side and you can probably hit master 20 on most islands fairly easily, and it just becomes a numbers game of eventually discovering every last sleep style to be found.

I don't see them introducing a prestige mechanic for Pokémon themselves though. More likely that they'll stick to the EXP overflow for handy candy you can stuff into other helpers that aren't yet level 100, after all.
Area bonus final cap might not be a hard 100%, but it might be something far more gradual like only +1% for every weekly increase afterwards, preferably across all maps.

At the current late stage of the game it's very normal to find only a few sleep styles per week. At the very final stages where you're trying to get the last ten you're missing, you might be going weeks without a hit especially without an event bonus to boost discoveries.

>>56903868
The only gold skills I want to see are BFS and Helping Bonus, maybe Sleep EXP or Skill Level UP M situationally.
They choke up the essential role skills for ingredient specialists and skill specialists, it sucks.

>>56902392
They should just change friendship level bonuses to +1 or more subskill rerolls of your choice for each milestone. The level 10 gold skill can be decent, but past that, most Pokemon just get fucked.

God damn it we finally get another main skill seed in a bundle right after I spent my gems on the Halloween one. I’m down 800 gems and I will absolutely never buy them at the ridiculous prices they are.

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Usable shiny?

>>56897838
I've been impressed with how top notch the promotional content for Sleep has been for the past few months.

>>56904433
Yeah it's usable, it has the essential Ing Finder M, viable subskills, a decent ingredient spread though its leek finding is going to take a big hit once it hits 60.

>>56904433
Really food if you want beans, but if you're actually using Leeks, it really needs Leeks at 60 minimum unfortunately.

>>56904433
Carry limit isn't even that low... impressive!

>>56905616
You can tell from the main skill level and subskills that it's been evolved twice, so yeah it has +10 inventory from that alone.

>>56905616
>>56906390
Sure to the low quantity, high value of leeks, you could probably catch a pre-evolved one and be fine with its inventory. Given how strong its skill is though, you probably just want to evolve one from the first stage no matter how infrequently it actually activates.

>>56902392
>catching all the male Eevees

>friends list says friend hasn't been active in 7+ days
>has been consistently showing up in community research despite this
>months later, its spread to 5 other friends
>all of them show up in community research every day but have been marked as 7+ days inactive in friends list
wtf is going on, this is annoying

>>56908330
Oh, what an unfortunate bug. Try clearing the cache.

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BFS Gengar puts out just as much power as a BFS Banette, but a maxed out Mimikyu can actually get more berries (not counting the extra berries it gets from its teammates) despite its low power total. But later on, Mimikyu will actually scale better with levels, while Banette is still in the middle and Gengar falls behind.

My game has crashed at night 6 out of 11 sleep sessions in the last 2 weeks.

>>56910905
i close all other apps before going to sleep

>>56910957
So do I

Do I really have to have it on my bed? I left it on my nightstand last night because when I slept with it on my bed it unplugged the charger, but it panicked because it couldn’t sense me moving and gave me like. No poinys

>>56911073
it needs to detect movement to guess what sort of sleep you're getting
or use a compatible watch/go++

>>56909753
Raenonx team analysis assumes you're making Spicy Leek Curry for every single meal, and doesn't factor what meals you're actually making including meal levels.

Which means that whereas berry strength scales with the Pokémon, ingredient strength scales with the recipe instead, therefore Gengar doesn't fall behind as much as you think provided you're using those fiery herbs as filler ingredients.

>>56910905
Might be time for a new phone.
Do a hard reboot, clean out storage, disable/remove unwanted background apps, etc. Phones allocate a portion of their internal storage space to overflow memory (RAM) and if storage is too full can cause memory issues with background apps.

I did a clean out on my phone recently and that helped stop Pokémon Go closing itself in the background when I multi-task between Pokémon Sleep, emails, Firefox, etc.

>>56911073
Yes, it needs one of three devices to track movement during sleep. Although using your phone records audio, that audio is (supposedly) only for your own informational reference and not used in measuring sleep or data collection.
It can't track shit if it's not on your bed, whether you're using a phone, smart watch, or Pokémon Go Plus+. I use the plus+ personally.

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Is the nature really making this useless or it's salvageable by the sub-skills?

>>56912081
Nature is a 0.8x multiplier, whilst subskill M is 1.36x and subskill S is 1.18x
Which means the nature basically cancels out that Ingredient Finder S and you only really enjoy one out of three possible ingredient boosts.

Speed of help effects in natures are also lesser compared to other effects, only a 10% difference rather than 20%.
Which means the helpful aspect is less meaningful. Modest nature with Ingredient Up Speed Down is unironically better due to maxing out the ingredient finding rate in spite of slightly reducing overall gathering.

I do think this Bulbasaur is pretty usable though. Helping Bonus at 50 is very nice, it'll be a very good tomato farmer, but I wouldn't seriously invest in it unless nature mints are introduced. Just hold onto it.

>>56912081
It's unfortunate, but all of the speed will help even out its power. Venusar's base ingredient rate is decent, so you basically have a neutral-natured Bulbasaur with Helping Speed S instead of Ingredient Finder S. Luckily Ingredient Finder M is the only thing you really need for an ingredient type.

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hahahaha…..

>>56897177
Is this a bad thing? Why are people doomposting.

>>56913490
>male
do shiny eevees turn into more candy?

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Post usable shinies. This is out of like... 20-something and the Sudowoodo is still my only BFS + Helping Bonus Pokemon even if I haven't actually used it in ages.

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>>56913980
Personally, outside of some wonky balancing and minor technical hiccups, Select Button has been doing a pretty good job at managing the game (at least by mobile game standards). So the chances of a change in developer making the game better rather than worsening it are quite slim.

I haven’t gotten dozing in so long, getting kind of annoyed. Its the only reason ive been spamming LL since release.

>>56914819
At least Eevee week next will give varied sleep style encounters regardless of measured sleep.

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I first found two decent turtles but back when I started I was stupid and tried to recruit a big turtle. Today i pulled the trigger to properly recruit it (only because I don't want to see the bar almost filled). It's decent but... should i bother with it???

>>56916693
eh

>>56916693
It's a toss-up between ??? and Ich, at level 60 one's a cacao farmer and the other's a milk farmer.
They function pretty similarly though with Ich having Helping Bonus, level 3 main skill, and no EXP hindering nature being the key advantages.

Mastr Blastr by comparison doesn't have anything going for it aside from that single Ingredient Finder M, and can't compete with a lack of BFS.

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Makes me want to puke.

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>find random skeledirges every now and then
>end up feeding them sometimes when nothing else is good or when they're hungry
>today I finally caught my first one
>it's pretty good with 2x Apple

Honestly? I might just be done with apples, unless the scenery for recipes changes drastically. Considering that I'll spend most of my time at OGPP trying to get a Mimikyu or Drifloon, and my two Raichu already gather a lot of apples, I think I'm pretty much done with the Fuecoco line. Feels good.

>>56914577
My best shiny by FAR, I also have an ingredient finder M mono sausage shiny Charizard that is acceptable and helps me sometimes, and a HB/HS shiny Spheal which I'll probably never use.

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>>56917419
I forgot my pic like a loser.

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>>56914577
Have had 27 shinies so far, but the shiny Igglybuff I got as an early Christmas gift will probably never be topped.

The shiny Toxicroak is decent if I'm short on oil, but it really needs a nature mint for ingredient+.

Shiny BFS Blastoise sees some use when I have favourite water berries, in spite of no ingredient finding boosts and having way too much inventory.

Shiny Venusaur with very high ingredient finding rate, but it's extremely rare that I'm low on honey or need a lot of it. If I'm at Greengrass, my Wigglytuff, Meganium, and Go Plus+ Pikachu are gathering honey as it is.

>>56908330
Oh no, I may have removed people that could have had this happening....

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Which Buggo should I nourish?

>>56917329
Guess I'll stay with Ich.

>>56918634
First one with BFS + Helping Bonus. You'll just want to use a subskill seed. Other ones aren't very exciting unless you want the last one for a final mix of Coffee and Mushrooms.

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Wow, turns out 3x helping bonus does a LOT for your team

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>>56890278
Give me one reason why I shouldn't quit this game?

>finally find rare mon, use valuable resources to catch it
>it has shit subskills and or nature, and or ingredients

>>56919346
help you sleep

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>>56919346
>considering quitting over bad rolls on """rares""" like Ralts and Sprigatito
Better quit now, or you will have an aneurysm when you experience the hell that is trying to roll for a good single-stage mon.

>>56920268
you mean like all of my suicunes, entei, and raikous?

>>56921099
Especially those.

I’m currently running venosaur, wartortle, glaceon, and jolteon. The last spot is reserved for whatever Pokémon I’m grinding sleep hours for, as my main goal is to complete the dex (my favorite part of any Pokémon game).
That being said, what is the most optimal team I can make with 4 Pokémon?

>>56922032
by complete your dex do you mean the sleep style dex or just to catch everything?

>>56922192
Both, I’m a completionist

>>56922275
for vikavolt style 3 you need to get 3.4 million snorlax power at the powerplant. this is probably only achievable by whales atm. at lapis lakeside you need 3.2 mil for dragonite style 3

I think I have a decent powerplant team, (multiple good pokemon with correct berries above level 50) and I get 1.5 million. you probably need 4 really good pokemon for each island and a really good e4e pokemon to even start working towards completing a sleep style dex

The team of 4 you're using, each pokemon has it's own different island with a favoured berry. So you have a start, but you're going to need some more

>>56922560
See I’m such a fool I didn’t know there were favored Pokémon for each island. Could you point me towards a list so I can begin building favored teams?

>>56920268
Cute art.

>>56922708
Each island has its own preferred berries:
Greengrass: Random each visit
Cyan Beach: Water, Fairy, Flying
Taupe Hallow: Fire, Ground, Rock
Snowdrop Tundra: Ice, Dark, Normal
Lapis Lakeside: Grass, Psychic, Fighting
Old Gold Powerplant: Electric, Steel, Ghost
[next area]: Dragon, Bug, Poison (probably)

I'm at 29 Eevees. Soon they'll all be shit.

>>56924871
I'm at 50 currently. I have an adamant berry finding + skill level up M I'm hesitant on training, maybe thinking Espeon for a fixture on lapis since I already have a good Vaporeon and Gardevoir, but then again I could use it as a Jolteon to pair with Raikou for overstacking to prep for event weeks.

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I need some second opinions on these, any of them worth it?

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>>56924930
Fuck, wrong image

>>56924938
no/no/no/no

Eevee doesn't do anything without BFS or Skill Trigger.
Stufful needs Ingredient Finder, nature optional.
Wooper has good starting skills, but the negative nature is pretty harsh in this case. Since it's so slow, you need a bit more for it to be functional.
Grubbin has the same issue, done in by it's nature.

Nature plays a fairly large role in viability, as the up/downside is stronger than S skills. You can get away with a negative nature sometimes, but rarely if it takes away from the Pokemon's main type.

Make sure you brush your teeth before bed!

Eevee week approaches. Where do you go?
I'll have to double check what I actually have recorded, but it looks like Taupe for me.

>Greengrass: Sylveon & Jolteon
>Cyan: Vaporeon
>Taupe: Flareon & Umbreon & Espeon
>Snowdrop : Glaceon
>Lapis: Espeon & Leafeon
>Power Plant: Jolteon

>>56926793
I'm also going Taupe, I need 6 sleep styles across Flareon and Espeon, so it's the best bet.
I also went Taupe this week but didn't encounter any of them, I got 3 star Skeledirge this morning though.
Getting Dozing sleep at Taupe is painful due to how many Poison types you encounter, but you can get good Ghost types too.

powerplant. don't care about eevee stuff right now, it'll happen eventually. but island bonus for powerplant is important to work towards being able to set up for the next island

I want get 8 spawns and m3 days before sunday, so I have the ability to run some bug/poison/dragon pokemon

>>56926997
The only things you can get at OGPP for a next island would be the Caterpie, Grubbin, and Ekans lines.
Whilst Butterfree is reasonably good and Vikavolt is great, Arbok is straight up trash and should be ignored.
Arbok gets outperformed by Pikachu, that's how trash it is.

OGPP mostly self-serves with good electric and ghost types.
It's arguably better to head to Lapis Lakeside to find the best possible Dratini, whether that's one with BFS, an ingredient maxed mono-herb or herb/corn/corn farmer, or even herb/corn/oil, there are few bad ingredient spreads on a Dragonite and BFS makes excellent use of its strong berries and fast helping speed.

ABA ingredient spreads in general are the worst across most Pokémon since it imbalances the ingredient spreads and doesn't deliver on quantities.

>>56926997
>>56927133
Ah, no wait I get it.
You want to be able to get to M3 ASAP on Powerplant so you can shift focus to running bug/poison/dragon teams for the rest of the week.

>>56927160
Yeah. There's very much a momentum to this game, especially when you hit max level. Getting to higher snorlax power leads to more (and evolved) spawns which gives more candy and dream shards which you can use to get higher snorlax power faster. Compound interest shit
I don't want to lose a week, and to get well past powerplant being hard asap

>>56926793
For each island I'm only missing 1 or 2 Eevee sleep styles so it doesn't make much of a difference to me. I'm just going to take advantage of the extra skill triggers with my Lucario and Vaporeon so probably Cyan.
>>56927133
Arbok is still worth catching for Chesto Berries. If you ignore it then have fun complaining about bad berry rolls for future events. And ABA is one of the best ingredient spreads for Dragonite since it gives you the perfect ratio of Herbs/Corn for Inferno Curry. The only problem is that you'll need more Herbs before level 60, so you'll need another mon to supply them until then.

I'm getting this banette to 50 one way or the other

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>>56927850
Fuck forgot image

>>56927133
ABA is fine for most ingredient Pokemon except the ones that start with a low base ingredient power, but can gather high value ingredients later. Quaquaval, Aggron, and Blastoise more specifically hit a really hard imbalance at 60 with that spread. ABC on the other hand can give you a lot of ingredient C, but it becomes very unreliable for ingredient B, which is probably what you were using it for in the first place. AAB, AAC, or ABB end up as the most consistent and reliable sources of specific ingredients.

Though ABA or ABC actually end up being preferred for a handful of non-ingredient types that can gather above the standard 1x/2x/4x quantities. So I'm this case it's not necessarily just for consistency, but for raw quantity.

>>56923499
Thank you kindly. So, I should build teams of only those types for each island?

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>>56928593
Ideally the entire team should gather favorite berries, but you can sometimes make exceptions.

BFS berry specialists are most important by far, and instrumental to each island.
Ingredient specialists, favorite berries is a perk but your priority should be stocking up on what's needed for the best dishes you can muster. Ingredient gathering game changes a lot when your team surpasses level 30.
Skill specialists, depending on which skill, it doesn't really matter because their priority is strength gains directly or indirectly through skill procs. Energy for Everyone users in general provide far more by keeping the entire team juiced, than actual berries gathered by themselves.

You don't necessarily need full type coverage on a given island, either. The real advantage of that will be a diversity of ingredients gathered.
In any case here's BFS berry specialists you want to prioritise for each island:

>Cyan Beach
Feraligatr
>Taupe Hollow
Typhlosion, Ninetales
>Snowdrop Tundra
Houndoom, Walrein
>Lapis Lakeside
Meganium
>Old Gold Power Plant
Raichu, Banette

Also, if it comes to pass that you have a really, really good BFS helper and you arrive at an island without specialists, you may want to run that helper by virtue of high level, so you can still build strength whilst you ready a new team.
I used to regularly run a level 50+ BFS Raichu on most islands, since it was on-par with level 30ish BFS specialists thanks to sheer helping speed.
If you're in doubt, use the "Pick a Team" function and it'll tell you what your top 5 berry gatherers for your current island are. This'll fast-track strength gains, at the expense of levelling up a more suitable team.

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*sigh* is this thing really unusable?

>>56929583
Actually it's a pretty good mon and definitely usable.
It will be worse than a Raichu or Steelix that have the same skills/nature, but it will be better than almost any other spread.
For example, if they only have BFS and nothing else contributing to their helping speed, then Agrron outpaces them. If they have 2 helping speed + nature, it still outpaces them. If they have BFS and either a HS nature or subskill, then they win but by a very small margin, and Aggron contributes a lot for the best recipes.

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>>56929583
It actually generates more strength than an ingredient-maxed Aggron, more-so if at OGPP.
Once it hits 60, all three are on-par unless at OGPP.
Main skill chance down nature also doesn't matter much, it still procs around twice a day and will give itself a 3.5hr energy boost each time.

You know that Aggron absolutely demolishes Charizard as a sausage farmer? It has superior helping speed, ingredient rate, and berry strength, Charizard cannot compete other than Ingredient Magnet S being a nice perk.

>>56929642

Right now I have a bfs naughty Raichu and an adamant helping bonus and (soon unlocked) bfs banette for Mainstays on my team, I have my healer and I have Vaporeon to stay topped on ingredients, but I always seem to be rotating out that 5th slot as I don't have another favorite berry bfs mon on OGPP.

I was shy of hitting Master 17 at Taupe today, but I looked up the sleep style unlocks and it turns out the last one is 3 star Tyranitar at Master 16.
If I get dozing sleep tonight I've got a shot at Ttar.

>>56929583
If you don't mind that it won't get you as many ingredients, then by all means use it. It'll always be a good to have a berry farmer of every type on hand, even if it's just a substitute for an actual BFS berry type.

Enjoy your Eevee week, /zzz/!

I need 2 styles each for Flareon, Espeon, and umbreon. Worth a ticket? I have3.

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Huh. Rare incense.

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Look at this turd wrangler...

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Boy am I glad I used an Eevee incense Sunday night!
Only one more to go, here's hoping I get even luckier this week

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Eeveelution sleep styles for the mentally impaired.

>>56932556
Thanks, Discord/Reddit fag.

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since it's eevee week, are any of these worth consideration?
I'm starting to just consider pokemons up to lv30 since my dream shard are so low after upgrading the pot for these last 2 upgrades

>>56933018
They're honestly all worth considering, however your Careful one there is your actual best candidate as it has a beneficial nature.

Skill Chance Up on natures has a stronger effect than Skill Trigger S, so a combination of Skill Chance Up + Skill Trigger M is preferable over Skill Trigger S + M without nature boost.

The Impish one with BFS is also a boon, I would suggest that one become an Espeon.

The Docile one is the least interesting because it won't get any pay-off until level 75, but it does at least have that possibility so don't bin it.

I would consider the first Impish one for a Vaporeon whilst the Careful one should be a Sylveon, or perhaps vice-versa depending on your needs. Either way the Careful one only needs two main skill seeds to reach level 6 main skill which is great, and a single subskill seed for near-maximum skill trigger rate.

That one person with only Eevees in their team is gonna be very happy about this week

>>56933390
My first and second shiny Eevees were caught during the event last year (22nd and 27th), and I caught a third shiny this morning, before the event technically started!
>>56932348
I've already used 12 helper whistles and 5 pillows to get a head start.

I decided to use the overstacking strat last week to get this week going. I'm hoping to find a random Entei since I only need to feed it 1 poke biscuit to catch it. I also wouldn't mind finding a good Espeon.
I managed to stack just over 1k berries, which was about 300k in strength. Right now it's 12:30 PM and I just made lunch, and am sitting at 420k strength.

>>56933482
Overstacking strat? Doesn't the power gained from sneaky snacking cap out at some point? Or can you really just skip an entire week to get a week's worth of sneaky snacking at the start of a new week

>>56933501
You can't. What anon is referring to is (very likely) using mons to increase pot size for a big first meal, increase crit chance for a meal and using stuff like helper boost or extra helpful to make mons carry more berries than their inventories would usually allow them to.

I just started like 2 weeks ago should use my Sylveon/Eevee incense right away?

From what I've read it's best to use it when you start a new week since you have the least Pokemon spawns.

>>56933752
Sylveon is not worth recruiting on its own. Best find a good Eevee.
Next to that, Eevee spawns should be increased so you shouldn't need it.

>>56933482
>>56933501
overstacking is using a legendary dog. the berries from helper boost go past inventory limits, i think it was said up to 999 per pokemon. so you run a dog for a week, only press on it, and profit next week.

and you still can do ok in the current week if you have enough bfs and ingredients saved up

>>56932995
Fuck you. I made this.

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>>56933752
Incenses give +1 spawn to the up to 8 spawns you can get from Drowsy Power alone, but when you're starting out you're likely to only get round 4-7 spawns.
An incense will guarantee you get at least a 1 star spawn, but to get anything higher requires that you have a higher rank and drowsy power (of which the requirements are not communicated in-game, relying on outside info instead).

Higher grade sleep styles grant more research EXP and dream shards, especially if it's for an evolved species with higher requirements.
As such, using such an incense earlier means you're receiving fewer rewards earlier, than potentially greater rewards later on.
Incenses also have uses for completing missions or earning greater rewards during certain events featuring "Event Exchanges".

Incenses of course are also useful for trying to discover sleep styles that are missing from your Sleep Dex, so using them wisely is key.

On top of that, this week's event features a "use 7 incenses" mission to earn 20 Eevee candy.
Do not waste your incenses trying to complete this mission, Eevee candy are among the most common and abundant in the game and long-time players may have near or over a thousand of them.
I mention that specifically because earlier on they give out valuable incenses like Focus Incense (2x Research EXP), Luck Incense (2x Dream Shards), Growth Incense (2x Pokémon Sleep EXP), and Friend Incense (1 guaranteed hungry Pokémon during snack time). It is not worth burning these, they're best saved for important events like those with legendaries with potentially huge payouts, or Good Sleep events with 3x Sleep EXP.
However, Recovery Incenses? They're perfect for "use 7 incenses" event missions, due to how you receive a free one every week if you maintain your bedtimes.

Also, unless you get extremely lucky with the Sylveon spawn during feeding time, don't expect to befriend the first one you see.
They need 20 points to befriend.

how can i find out where an incense can be used? someone mentioned that Sylveon wont spawn in TH, and it got me thinking, how can we know if an incense will work, let's say im planning for next week or something

>>56934222
Raenonx in OP post is one such resource.
Whilst you're on an island, incenses you can't use are greyed out.

Whilst looking at the Pokédex on the site you can apply a filter to see which Pokémon spawn on a given island, or look on a per-map basis: https://pks.raenonx.cc/en/map

>>56933994
My apologies.
Thanks, autist.

>>56934222
keep in mind that raenonx is cancer.

>>56934222
Incense is greyed out if it can't be used.

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Looking for more friends. Only have 9 right now. Thanks to those who already friended me. I'm on every day and I just started playing a few months ago.
If any anons have posted their codes itt link to this and I'll add you as well.
Also what makes good pokemon in this game? I have just over the 200 original cap limit and I'm always just letting the game sort teams for me each week. I have 0 clue which ones to invest in and am assuming that I'll find better ones as I level up.

How many new sleep styles did you get from the good sleep day event, since I remember them saying there would be higher chances of seeing new sleep styles

I got 1 on the first night, 3 on the 2nd night and 3 more on the 3rd night for a total of 7

>>56936318
Don't remember if I had a new one on Friday's sleep, but Saturday's sleep gave me 3 star Skeledirge, and Sunday's sleep gave me 3 star Banette and 1 star Flareon (and 3 star Skeledirge again). It was balanced sleep, too, but I was hoping for 3 star Ttar.

I'm nearing 500 sleep styles, if not already there. The remaining sleep styles I can get are getting harder to wring out.

>>56936318
1 on the first night and 0 for the other 2. I rolled Slumbering for the second night and the only one I'm missing for that is 4* Golem so I guess it was pretty unlikely to begin with, but I also didn't get any Cleffa so it was pretty much a waste.

>>56932556
Espeon is on Lapis

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>>56936423
Damn it

5 total I think, went 0 > 4 > 1

So with dream shard magnet mons, are they actually giving more shards than if you just used a good berry mon to get higher amounts of daily shards? Do the skill procs make up for the lower strength impact?

>>56937278
If you replace your weakest mon then your score wouldn't be affected as much. Sure you might lose a thousand or so from sleep research, but getting 7+ procs worth of dream shards each day would more than make up for it. The real question is if you think using Main Skill Seeds is worth it or not.
Also as a side note it feels pretty weird that the cost of leveling a Dream Shard mon from 25 to 50 is so high that it's pretty much never worth doing, since it would take so long to make up the dream shards for the investment to just break even, let alone see some real profit.

>>56937353
Yeah this game is slow as fuck.

Doesn’t help that I just spent 440,000 on 3 more ingredient slots, holy fuck

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'chu

>>56937353
The point of getting to 50 would that it would have a significant boost to get that Subskill. A one-time investment for a Dream Shard Magnet user can easily pay itself off as long as you use it. It would only take maybe a month at worst to recoup its own dream shard costs up to 50. After that, it's all profit.

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>>56937673
Getting from 25 to 50 costs 157k shards. Assuming you'll unlock Helping Speed M to go with both your Skill Triggers(pretty much the ideal scenario), that's about 1 extra proc per day. At level 7 that's 1,800 per proc, so it would take about 88 days to make up for the amount spent. But you probably aren't using your dream shard mon every day due to events and other times you care more about your drowsy power, so it would probably actually take over 6 months. The exp you gain from sleep for the nights you are using it would help you get closer to 50 without putting you at a deficit.
>but that lucario isn't optimal
It's the one I have, except with Helping Bonus at 50. I just switched it because it feels weird calculating with a team-wide boost, and it's hard enough to get one with 3 good subskills at 50 before the forced gold skills anyway. This is just one of the most impactful spikes you could get at level 50, and it still isn't that big compared to the cost.

>>56937761
I made a VERY conservative estimate on how many shards you could gather per week, so it would be even less time if you actually used it everyday. 5x activations per day, at level 6 main skill to give you 1,200 shards per activation, multiply that by the week and you already have about 40k shards. It would be done in a month with some extra change.
If you used a capped out Lucario, you could recoup the dream shard cost in a week and a half.

>>56937792
It's not about how much you gain during that time, it's about how much more you gain from the extra levels and subskill as opposed to just keeping it at 25.

>>56937859
Well yeah, like I said, you only do it for a significant skill. Even 1 activation per day amounts to a 10-15% increase in gains, so if you're going to invest in a Dream Shard Magnet user, you should make the most of it.

>>56937633
I love these little niggys like you wouldn't believe. shame I never managed to get a halloween shiny pika

Really hope they actually use Snowdrop in the coming months. Nothing particularly good spawns there yet, plus its got a HUGE empty gap for a legendary spawn while all other islands can get one of the dogs.

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Is this worth investing?

>>56939842
missing the nature is a bummer. the speed being at 75 is a bummer. going to be annoying to try get a better one though

good enough to run but not exactly what you want

>>56939135
Snowdrop is lacking in general, so I'm wondering if they'll give it a winter holidays focused event as last year's was just at Greengrass.

Say they give us the legendary birds from Kanto, then they can put Articuno there.
That still puts Snowdrop Tundra at a disadvantage though, because Taupe Hollow would get Moltres and Entei, whilst Old Gold Powerplant would get Zapdos and Raikou.

>4 out of 6 pokemon all hungry this morning
All shit, of course. The problem with going to Taupe is that I don't actually need many of the Pokemon there, except trying to get extra Eevees and their sleep styles. I even have most of Taupe sleep styles unlocked already.

>>56940727
It's crazy how much trash Taupe has.

Who's the best basedbean gathering mon?

>>56940727
>>56940778
i just want a solid sableye for downtime weeks in snowdrop

>>56940727
>>56940778
Actually on reconsideration, there are actually a LOT of things I still need from Taupe. Problem is it only gave me Ekans, Gulpin, and Cubone today. I still need a Houndour, Shuppet, Vulpix, Growlithe, Cyndaquil, Fuecoco, Wooper, Onix/Steelix, and Larvitar... MAYBE a Diglett.

>>56940991
Quaquaval, Tyranitar, or Golem. Since recipes don't use THAT many beans and beans aren't particularly high value, the best spread would probably be AAB/AAC on the duck and golem, or AAB or ABA for Tyranitar. Though I also use my Altaria and that seems to actually gather a decent amount of beans and eggs unless you're making the heaviest-use recipes for every meal.

>>56941777
>unless you're making the heaviest-use recipes for every meal
That's precisely it- I decided I'm going to start making and leveling the new highest power dishes that use rousing coffee on Sundays. This week is curry for me and that particular dish requires 28 basedbeans per serving.
Are there any advantages to ingredient-gathering or procc'ing skills by evolving mons? I have a decent triple basedbean Quaxly that I just leveled to 30 and evolved, but Oran's on the berry bonus this week so I might keep it as a Quaxwell until further notice.

>>56941998
speed boost and inventory helps with ingredients

newbie to this game, is this eevee any good?

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>>56942620
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>>56942635
It's very good, it gets the two most important things by level 25: Skill Trigger M, and a Skill Chance boosting nature.
Congrats, pick your Eeveelution carefully, there's a lot of good choices for that one, but a lot of poor ones too.

For future reference, all Pokémon fall into one of three specialities: Berry, Ingredient, and Skill.
You want subskills and natures that boost their speciality, Eevee being a skill specialist.

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Looks like my boy has reached his potential.

>>56943246
good shit. it's just like mine but better. mine has no nature.
dream shard bonus on a shard magnet mon is good investment

>>56943293
Dream Shard bonus sucks ass

hell yea
free main skill seed

Was curious to see which islands anons picked so I checked my research community
>Greengrass 21
>Cyan 1
>Taupe 11
>Snowdrop 1
>Lapis 5
>Powerplant 11
Didn't think Greengrass would be so popular, as well as the opposite for Cyan and Snowdrop.

>>56943804
Any idea why we got a Main Skill Seed and Poke Biscuits? Didn't see any mention in the news or on the twitter. I'm guessing a game award nomination or something.

>>56944374
yeah something about winning grand award from google store. you can see it on their jp twitter.

>>56941614
Taupe in general is prone to giving you low value spawns, it's annoying.
I'm at the stage I can hit Master 3 on Tuesday though, there's a good chance I'll hit Master 18 too but the last sleep style unlock is Master 16.
I've discovered 85% of sleep styles there anyway, and will be able to whittle that down over time as my Entei team and area bonus improves, but Lapis Lakeside and OGPP is gonna take priority. They're just outright better maps for having less junk.

>>56944348
Greengrass has the most Eeveelution sleep styles to discover but only has 3 stars for Sylveon and Jolteon, so it's still a good big.
Taupe Hollow is if you want 3 stars and OGPP is if you don't care and want the other event perks.
It's a pretty cool insight though.

Why are you selling your data to the Japanese? Be a patriot and sell it to a sleep app in your own country.

>>56944398
>be australian
yeah our companies are godawful with data, japan can have it

>>56944398
What are they going to do with my data? I literally only use the internet to shitpost here and for sleep

>>56944385
>jp twitter
This game will end up like that blocky Pokémon game where only japs get shit

Just because a Pokémon has 5 gold skills, doesn't mean it's good.

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>>56945571
Forgot image like an idiot

Is it still worth to evolve her into a Jolteon? HB and BFS are great, but I'm kinda bummed with the -Speed Nature and Ingredient Finder at 25.

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>>56945718
Ingredient Finder S generally doesn't amount to much. The bigger reason why you don't want it is just because it's a wasted skill. I think in this case since BFS is at 50, that's a pretty big investment to use a stone, candy, and shards until it's actually decent. You actually do get helped by EXP up, but it's up to you. It's a lot better than most, but I'd still be hesitant.

>>56945718
Eevee is really meh as a berry finding mon, it's best to stick to the skill proccing builds.

Newbie here with a few questions.
How do subskill seeds work, exactly? I found very little info online. I know they only affect the already unlocked subskills, but is there a list of what the max level for each subskill is? Can skills go beyond M? Does it work on skills such as BFS?
Additionally, how do shinies work? Is it
>Only a hungry pokemon has a chance to be shiny
or
>A shiny chance is unaffected by the hungry pokemon chance?

Also, do we know when the next maintenance happens?

>>56943246
Ooh very nice, please give hugs for me

>>56947673
Inventory can go up to L, but I think everything else only has s and m. Gold skills are only one level. Using a seed will randomly pick one of your unlocked skills to level, but you can only have one of the same skill per mon, I.e. you can’t level up helping speed s if your level 100 skill is helping speed m, since that’d give you two of the same skill.

>>56947673
I don’t know how shinies are rolled, but FYI they will always be caught in one biscuit, so only use a regular poke biscuit. Any higher level one will be washed, since it always auto crits shinies.

>>56947673
>subskills
Subskills can only increase skills to the maximum of that skill category:
Inventory Up S > M > L
Ingredient Finder S > M
Skill Trigger S > M
Helping Speed S > M
Skill Level Up S > M
But you can't have duplicate skills at the same time either, so if you want to upgrade Inventory S, but you have Inventory M still to be unlocked at level 50, you can't upgrade it until you get to level 50. At which point, it would upgrade the Inventory M to L, THEN you could upgrade Inventory S to M (since M is no longer blocking S). This also means you can't upgrade Helping Speed S to M even if you have Helping Speed M locked at level 100.

>how do shinies work
Shinies will always spawn as hungry and are guaranteed to mega crit regardless of the biscuit you give it. So it's usually in your best interests to just give it a regular Poke Biscuit if you see it's shiny.

>maintenance
There is currently no maintenance scheduled. They usually say in game well ahead of time.

>>56947751
I know how shinies work, I was just wondering how the shiny generation works. If it's hungry first,then shiny later, then good camp ticket would provide a significant upgrade to shiny rates(100% chance for a shiny roll every day, as opposed to regular where you'd need to roll hungry mon first and then shinyness later). If shiny roll happens regardless of the hungry roll, then the good sleep ticket boost is much smaller(only providing one extra pokemon) and therefore not worth the money for my shiny autism.
Though I'm gonna assume from the answers that the exact system is not known so far.

>>56947906
I'm certain that shinies are generated before hungry chances, because otherwise people that use camp tickets every week would consistently have a lot more shinies than anyone else. You technically do get more chances since you have an extra spawn, but it's not like being hungry is a prerequisite of being shiny.

>>56947906
The shiny odds aren't really known, and you can only get up to 10 encounters a day (8 from DP, +1 from incense, +1 from Good Camp ticket).

It's assumed that if something turns up shiny, it forces it to be hungry and give a "mega hit" (guaranteed befriend).
There's two types of feeding crits, "big hit" which is 3x friendship points, and "mega hit" which maxes out friendship points. Hungry Pokémon are guaranteed to have a big hit and a better odds of mega hits, but you can still get these hits without them being hungry.

Sleep is a rare case in the franchise, where shiny encounters has an actual gameplay benefit due to the ease of getting a new Pokémon. It waives the usual costs of stuffing multiple biscuits into a Pokémon you want.
That's the only benefit though, shinies in this game are functionally identical to anything else and are subject to the same randomness that makes or breaks a helper.

>>56947906
I don't know if this answers your question, but one time when I had a good camp ticket I had the extra mon be shiny and it was my only hungry mon that day.

>>56947975
I see, then it's not worth spamming the tickets for shinies every week. Thanks for the response.
>>56948047
I would assume these are two separate rolls that happen completely independent of each other then.

>>56947209
I have a fuckton of eevee candies and shards. It is just so sad to see these great skills go to waste because of its nature.
>>56947305
I heard that Jolteon makes a good BFS Pokemon for Raikou teams because of its great speed - or at least that was the play back when Raikou was release. What is the ideal Raikou team nowadays?

>>56945718
I would evolve her to Glaceon, Flareon, or Jolteon for dessert week on their respective island. Eevee and it's Eeveeloutions to me is the jack of all trades and it needs a lot to make them work.
>BFS
>Skill Trigger M
>Helping Bonus/Help Speed M
>Inventory M/L
>Milk/Milk/Cocoa or Milk/Milk/Milk
This would be the ideal Eevee to me and female too

>>56948347
I guess Jolteon can still be fine. We have Raichu + Pikachu (ribbon) + Halloween Pikachu so Joleton could be the fourth slot.
However even while running a legendary and 4 same-type mons with BFS, from my experience with Entei, missing out on a healer still leaves you behind compared to Legendary + 3 BFS + healer, so you end up not needing the fourth mon.

>>56948014
From my experience, shiny odds seem to be around 0.5% so you end up with around 1 per month.

>>56949408
That math tracks, if you can hit 8 spawns a day soon enough you can get over 200 spawns a month.

Can't remember the last shiny I got right now though. This Eevee event is supposed to have boosted shiny Eevee rates too, and a few of my research postcards have had them.

>>56948014
>>56949408
>>56949676
There was that one anon who used the in game achievements to count how many spawns he’d had and work out the shiny rate
>>56559493

could add a few more samples

>>56950642
I didn't know it kept counting. So for me me my rate is 0.42%, which sounds plausible that the expected rate is 0.5%