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How to Train a Racist Edition

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I watch for she
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>What DLC character from SV would you like to see next?
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>>56896719
Lacey and Crispin being bros with Liko and Roy.
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>>56896719
Make it happen you cowards.
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>>56896719
Snacksworth. Liko will be confused to back and forth by that luck.
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Can you stop it with the gay shit, please?
It's gross and annoying..
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>>56896723
>Lacey and Crispin being bros with Liko and Roy.
FPBP. Crispin might actually score this time.
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>>56896709
>Meets Friede again
>Throws a melty
Funny.
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>>56896718
>I watch for she
Every single soul except Drayton
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>>56896709
>The Future We've Been Entrusted, the Shine of This World
Gibeon will nuke that paradise, won't he?
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WHERE IS LICUTE?!?!!!!
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>>56896741
That's the plan atleast.
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>>56896709
>November 22nd: PM2023 074 - The Three Explorers
Liko will see a friendship falling apart because of a woman moment, right? Liko needs to watch what she's doing before she repeats the mistakes.
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>>56896727
You have a Problem with Purest Form of Love?
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>>56896754
They can't even learn X-Scissor.
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>>56896724
Maybe, with the microskopic odds.
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>What are Gibeon's motivations?
He maybe wants to return his Zygarde to its full might.
>What is gonna be the location of Entei in the Likonime?
In paldea where it's becoming available after Snacksworth
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>>56896720
Won't happen lol
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>>56896709
https://archiveofourown.org/works/54864484
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But who has the better harem?

Housewife Liko or Cheeky Brat Juliana?
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>>56896785
>won't happen
You realise they got an MV by YOASOBI and an accompany short novel written by none other than the author of HIBIKEK Yuriphonium itself.

And this time no Shuuichi.
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>>56896798
Liko.
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https://archiveofourown.org/tags/Pocket%20Monsters%20%7C%20Pokemon%20(Anime%201997-2023)/works
Ash and Pikachu (platonic no homo) is now popular than Amour

SatoGou still going strong. Almost at 1000 now. Not bad for a guy who a lot of Ashfags had it out for.
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>>56896824
Who cares? There is a thread for that crap >>56880861
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>>56896719
For me personally, it's a tie between Lacey or another appearance of Carmine when they head to the DLC academy. Aside from the obvious "FUUUUUUAAAAAAARCK" moment from the latter the moment she sees Friede, Lacey doing the ultimate girl friend number with Liko seems reasonable enough.
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>>56896842
>Lacey doing the ultimate girl friend number with Liko
Sounds gay. Would Daddy approve of his girl being gay?
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>>56896744
Either that or Gibeon wishing for the downfall of Mankind. Because that's what pussy does to a man and Liko ain't gonna be happy to see that.
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>>56896847
Retard, Girl friend is a notable difference to Girlfriend. English is a weapon, like do you want to help your Uncle Jack off a horse or help your Uncle jack off a horse?
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>>56896752
>Liko will see a friendship falling apart because of a woman moment, right? Liko needs to watch what she's doing before she repeats the mistakes.
Bruh, calm down.
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>>56896718
Florian...
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https://x.com/CentroLeaks/status/1856164156862279946
I get the feels SM dodged a bullet. Though Idol Lillie would have had some appeal.
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>Gibeon has been seething for 100 years because he didn't get to have gay sex with Lucius
I almost admire his dedication
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>>56897032
Wasn't the gay part a bullshit translation?
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>>56896726
>Liko will be confused to back and forth by that luck.
By her own bad luck with older man or by the luck of that old man with legendaries?
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>>56897047
It's ambiguous
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>>56897047
Most of these "leaks" were.
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>>56897061
NTA but that sounds retarded.
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>>56896752
Or she'll see her ancestor impregnate their female teammate and now know what she must do!
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Didn't these translations come from that retarded discord with an extremely long history of incorrect translations?
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>>56897096
Well yeah.
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>>56897089
Knock it off, Roy. Liko won't shag a island boy
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Dot will get calls from Iono again, won't she?
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>>56897100
All that shit should be disregarded in general then. Why the fuck do you even bother acknowledging it?
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>>56896727
>Can you stop it with the gay shit, please?
I have over 400GB of FriedeAmethio art if you want the more manly stuff.
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>Whole story started because a woman ruined the friendship of two guys.
I knew that the anime became more relatable but there should be a limit to it. What is Liko gonna think about it.
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Seggs with Croc.
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>>56896719
I need the anime version of this.
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>>56897081
It's not retarded, the word can mean either thing
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>>56897185
Drayton would talk about the times Liko and Dot got hypnotized, wouldn't he?
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>>56897208

You're neglecting the fact that that same word (akogare) is used multiple times throughout that document to refer to Roy's admiration for Friede, kids looking up to post-timeskip Roy, or Liko looking up to Orla.

Sure, the word 'akogare' is a word with nuanced meaning which may express romantic interest, but translating it explicitly as a "love triangle", especially when it's vague and open to interpretation, is pretty ridiculous.
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>>56897221
I literally said it's ambiguous my dude
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>>56897234

You're defending a shitty translation which decided it's not ambiguous, and decided that it actually means 'love triangle'. Fuck off lmao.
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>>56897047

That's correct. The more accurate translation would be that Gibeon deeply looked up to Lucius and aspired to be like him. Apparently in some situations, the Japanese word used can refer to romantic feelings, but I don't know how likely that is in a homophobic Pokemon environment.
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>>56897234
The word 憧れ (akogare) is not ambigous at all, please educate yourself.

https://jisho.org/word/%E6%86%A7%E3%82%8C
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>>56897264
Is not ambigous in this context*.
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>>56897142
Lmao
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>>56897249
It's funny since the documents have multiple instances of higher-ups specifically not wanting gibeon's motivation to not be as one-dimensional as that. Well, that and not wanting his motivation to be hating lucius either.

It's why I'm curious to see what was kept in the next couple of episodes from the docs. Specifically I want to see if the part of lucius helping gibeon escape from the collapsing rakua even after the betrayal was kept. I want to see the look on his face of "but i just stabbed you in the back???" as lucius drags him to safety. Yakuza does that alot and it's always funny/great.
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We know Amethio longs for Gibeon's approval since he's his grandson and shit, but what about the other Explorers?, why do they follow Gibeon?, I wonder if they're gonna do an episode on this sometime.
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>>56897249
You literally said its "vague and open to interpretation"
And I interpret it like that cause funny
Why are you mad again?
>>56897264
>yearning; longing;
Ok
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>>56897312

Stop defending shitty translations that jump to conclusions and cause misinformation. In other words, don't be a bitch. Thanks.
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>>56897312
You seem like those people that try to force yaoi pairings on everything, ie a landwhale.
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>>56897293
I think so, Sango probably is in it for the lolz. But someone like Onyx seems reasonable enough to ask for validation.
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>>56896739
>Do not repost to other sites
>Does anyway
Anon!!
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>>56897293

IIRC, one of the documents detailing Horizons plot mentioned that one of the Explorers has like a sick sister, and they're in it to get a cure for their sister. I'll try checking the document again.

Of course, we have no idea who this may be referring to and whether the idea has been scrapped or not.
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>>56897367

Found it.

Document is:
>20220222_シリーズ構成案_GF様向け_第1稿

MTL:

>Second Half of the Series:
>The Explorers’ attacks on Rico (and the egg he possesses) intensify.
>It’s revealed that Lacua’s location and the power of Lucius’s Pokémon are essential.
>The circumstances on the Explorers' side are explained: The main characters on the Explorers’ side each have their own reasons for cooperating with the organization (such as wanting to use Lacua's power to save a sick sister).
>They realize they must reach Lacua before the Explorers do!
>They get Lucius's final Pokémon, Rayquaza.

Obviously a bunch of this is outdated, as obvious by Liko's "egg" (aka Terapagos).
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>>56897401
Aside from the outdated material, Onyx doing that for a family would be appropriate with his previous appearances.
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>>56897321
No, Gibeon being a cuck is funny :)
>>56897325
See above
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Winter is around the door again.
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Despite the best design amongst Paldea Pokémon, Ceruledge seems to failed to build similar popularity as Lucario and Greninja.
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>>56896719
>What DLC character from SV would you like to see next?
Forget the DLC, I want more of her.
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>>56896852
>Because that's what pussy does to a man and Liko ain't gonna be happy to see that.
Easy with the malding.
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>>56896724
Ditto
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>>56896842
>Aside from the obvious "FUUUUUUAAAAAAARCK" moment from the latter the moment she sees Friede
I NEEEEED IIIITT
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>>56896719
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>>56897532
Which are the most popular Paldeamons anyway? Meowscarada is an obvious pick but I don't think it reached the same level of popularity as Greninja or Cinderace. Ceruledge was blessed by an early appearance in the anime, added in UNITE (like Meowscarada) and it's a Ghost-type which is inherently popular but I don't know how it fares with the big ghosts like Mimikyu/Gengar/Aegislash. I remember Clodsire being all the rage in Japan. Miraidon was also very popular and they even specifically mentioned that Violet sold more too.
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>>56896709
Why does Carmine look like she just farted and Julianna is proud of her for doing it?
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>>56897935
>Which are the most popular Paldeamons anyway?
This is the only official SV poll conducted, subtract every other gen and you'll have the favorite picks in nipland atleast.

Also ignore the F aggot
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>>56897935
>>56897956
I was about to mention Tinkaton, yeah.
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>>56896719
>What DLC character from SV would you like to see next?
Haven't reached the DLC parts in the game yet but I know that Arven, Penny and Nemona show up as part of the last DLC update so there's that too.
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>>56897956
Ceruledge placed higher than Lucario
"failed to build similar popularity", my ass. Ban phonefagging ESLturds if all they contribute is talk shit.
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>>56896719
>What DLC character from SV would you like to see next?
Snacksworth traumatizing Liko like Spinel
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>>56896719
>>56896723
Liko pushing Lacey in the right direction to figure out Crispin's question he bailed out of in the game.
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>>56897977
Dude, people are tired of voting for Lucario , Charizard and Pikachu. Obviously most of them will vote for something new instead of voting for the same pokemon over and over again.
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>>56896709
As a zoomed out small thumbnail that image looks like Juliana's big pregnant tummy in a white shirt is pressing against Carmine's pressed-in tummy
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>>56898010
>Dude
>Continues to backpedal
Your rant? Discarded, moron.
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>>56897956
>Top Five are actually all Paldeamons and not other Gens
>Including Ceruledge
I am surprised, the last poll from SwSh had KANNTOOOOO in the top five. Looks like SV did the shilling right.
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>>56897971
>I was about to mention Tinkaton, yeah.
Dot will fucking crush Amethio's Corviknight into the dirt while feeling second-hand embarrassement from the action.
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>>56897293
>I wonder if they're gonna do an episode on this sometime.
I think they're gonna do each of the admins in duos.
>Sango and Onyx
>Spinel and Agate
Amethio might get most of the attention alongside more snippets of Gibeon or Hamber
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>>56896754
>Purest Form of Love
Is that what you guys are still calling it? I thought it was pretty clear that yuri is nothing more than just hentai material. Even Yaoi is more pure
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>>56897276
>I want to see if the part of lucius helping gibeon escape from the collapsing rakua even after the betrayal was kept.
Lucius seems to act on impulse in the flashbacks so that might be left in the final script
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THE LIARMY WILL DECIMATE LIKO!!!
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>>56898059
I think you got that backwards, yaoi is really fucked up.
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>>56896752
>Liko will see a friendship falling apart because of a woman moment
Come on, are females really capable of doing that willingly?
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>>56898114
If they want it done, yes.
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>>56898013
...interesting
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>>56898059
>>56898107
As a bisexual who consumes both, the second anon is correct
Yuri is sometimes almost boring with how little things actually happen with often totally harmless conflicts, and sometimes barely anything sexual happens at all
Yaoi often features rape, "problematic" relationships, and tends to have barely any buildup before the fucking happens
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>>56896727
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>>56897293
Doot brat
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>>56897632
Ann is not cute.
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>>56897632
Who is this
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>>56899020

Liko's friend, her former classmate and roommate, and a secret agent of Explorers.
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>>56899020
>Who is this
Amethio's future wife
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>>56899020
She's Liko's BFF
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>>56897142
>because a woman ruined the friendship of two guys.
Roy probably reevaluates his friendship after seeing this
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>>56899062
Human mawile
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Has Rhydon died yet?
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>>56899598
Soon
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>>56899598
Yes
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Obese Roy
Super Obese Liko
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>>56899693
Stahp
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>>56899771
Diet
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>>56896842
>Lacey doing the ultimate girl friend number with Liko seems reasonable enough.
That or it becomes Triple power with Anne
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>tfw Alex calls you his little princess
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>>56899693
Why are you like this?
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Lacey tops Crispin
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>>56900090
he fucking wishes
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Rasenburst is on a roll with the leaks. Sunday he found a bunch of cut stuff from Sun and Moon, and today he just posted a bunch of M20 stuff including Sugi art we’ve never seen before
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>>56900121
>Rasenburst
Who?
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>>56900128
A guy on discord who’s been covering the leaks. He just posted a bunch of M20 stuff. In one of the early drafts they were actually going to make Ash a Pokemon master at the end of the movie.
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There's something really funny about how the pool in kitakami has that sign about rumors of seeing ghosts so people think there's a hard rule that the people met there have to be dead.

You don't know how much I want the object in the woman's arms in the trailer to be a baby diana just so I can make fun of a certain group of people.
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Liko should cover her legs.
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>>56900121
Cross is way older here
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>>56900083
Because they would look super cute and fun as very obese kids
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>>56900121
If these threads weren’t a horizons whore house people would actually give a fuck about these
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>>56900222
Rasenburst doesn't know Japanese, but is extremely obsessed with pretending to. >>56897118
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>>56900570
Didn’t someone actually prove they were real because they fact checked on another website or am I misremembering
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>>56900626
No idea, but people have gone through various translations he's made before and the accuracy in them is pretty low. It's pretty dumb to trust anything he says, he's probably the worst translator in the Pokemon community.
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>>56900626
We’ve been over this already. The word used can mean both platonic and romantic. Neither translations are inaccurate. The interpretation in this case should be platonic, because it was used previously in the document describing Roy and Friede’s relationship. If anyone says the leaks are fake, don’t take them seriously. They have been fact checked by multiple people in and out of these threads. People are just coping because the guy posting it botched a corocoro interview last year.
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>>56900664
I remember the Z-A article he "translated" so he and his buttbuddy could post "news" for clout, and it turned out every single bit of "news" he revealed was incorrect and the article was just summarizing shit we already knew from the trailer.

Why the fuck do anyone even pay attention to him after that shitshow?
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>>56900664
This doesn’t like mistranslations, it sounds like the anon preferred their own translations. Saying “close enough” so many times while saying something isn’t accurate is retarded.

For instance, the part where he talks about the cast members and then the anon says it was only two people. That’s not even a mistranslation, that’s two people saying the same thing.
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>>56900664
Why don’t you fags actually post the Japanese so people can figure it out for themselves and stop trusting “translators” on 4chan
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>>56900711
Saying "the cast members" when you mean "two out of like 30 cast members" is absolutely a mistranslation, don't be retarded.
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>>56900747
That interview was only with the ones doing the Paldea E4 to be fair
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>>56900749
Even more of a reason to specify who thought this instead of just broadly saying "the cast members".
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>>56900749
The interview in >>56900664 was specifically an interview with Liko, Roy, and Dot’s VAs, as well as the VAs for the Shitenno. If anyone has access to it I can verify right now.
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>>56900711
>Saying “close enough” so many times while saying something isn’t accurate is retarded.
It says that two times, and the post is also going through every statement the guy made instead of just cherrypicking specific ones. The fact that only one of them was actually correct is pretty damning.
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You guys sure you aren’t just arguing different interpretations rather than actual mistranslations? I’m not sure which information is real or not anymore
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>>56900784
>No she thinks Dot has grown the most
>Close enough I guess?
>Technically true-ish
>Actually correct
>Close enough
>doesn’t use keigo
>it has decreased
>That’s two people
>Yes, but that’s not new

This two anons arguing their own interpretations, saying nearly the same thing

Although Im curious about the last bit. Where did that come from?
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>>56900786
The main point being argued is that Rasenburt's Japanese is extremely poor and nothing he says should be taken as fact because there's a pretty big chance it's just mistranslated or at best incredibly badly misrepresented to the point of only being "technically not entirely incorrect".

Both "Gibeon was in love with Lucius" and "the voice cast thought Rika was a man" falls under this. Yeah you can argue that on some hyper technical level it's not 100% wrong, but everyone reading those lines are going to interpret them in a very different way than that hyper technical level.
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>>56900835
> Gibeon was in love with Lucius

I thought this was real
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>>56900817
Nigga shit like "Liko's monologuing will continue to decrease" is not an interpretation of "Liko's monologuing has decreased".
The actual translation is also just a statement of fact that everyone already knew, it's obvious he included it in his list of "tidbits" because he mistranslated it and thought it was giving info on the future.
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>>56900869
Post the actual Japanese
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>>56900856
It's "technically" real on some really retarded level that he's probably only arguing himself.
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>>56900856
Not clear. Someone else here actually went out of their way to get it translated by people and they both came to similar conclusions. Although since we know Pokémon is anti-Gay, it likely is being interpreted non-romantically. We’ll know for sure next week.
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>>56900894
I don't have it, but we're talking about a guy whose translations have been consistently said to be incorrect by multiple people again and again here.
It's very very unlikely that someone pointing out that a proven bad translator is fucking up grammatical tenses is actually incorrect, recognizing whether a verb is in past tense or not is pretty babby tier.
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>>56900924
Isn't it just akogare?
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>>56900943
the only people said they were inaccurate are the people here the only translations people have criticized before was the Z-A. J heard a lot of users who know Japanese have been flocking into his discord. his discord has really become a hub for anipoke. i wish some of that stuff get posted here. this general only talks about horizons.
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>>56901008
>heard a lot of users who know Japanese have been flocking into his discord
>the translations are still being done by someone that clearly doesn't understand Japanese very well
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>>56901016
To play devil’s advocate here, I’m in his discord and there’s someone named Recap who fact checks Rasen’s posts with some person named Windii. I have no clue how credible Windii is, but they seem to hold them with high regard.
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>>56900869
>>56900894
I have no game in this fight, I actually think rasencuck does an okay job.

>>>Minori Suzuki says that as the story keeps progressing, Liko's monologuing has and will continue to decrease as she becomes more sure of herself.

Why did the anon say this was innaccurate? She says so in the second paragraph.
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>>56901041
That's this dumb shitter, right? >>56867253

In that case, not very credible at all, since that translation they're sperging about WAS correct. And that one we DO have the Japanese for, ready for people to check themselves.

>直近、セレナ再登場の時も矢嶋監督にTwitterで海外から殺人予告が来た。粘着された。どう転ばせても粘着する人はいるというのは感じる。
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>>56901074
Thank you. We're talking about this bit, right?
>初期は本当にモノローグが多く、内気なセリフがほとんどだった印象です。
>そこから物語が進むにつれて、次第にモノローグが減っていき、自分の気持ちを内に秘めず、声に出して相手に届けるようになっていきました。

My nip isn't great, but I'm not seeing where it supposedly says Liko's monologuing will CONTINUE to decrease even more from this point on.
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>>56901082
Sorry anon, but Windii actually went to school to learn Japanese and does work for Sonic. I’m more inclined to believe what they’re saying. It’s also a bit telling that the main translator for this community got caught putting out mistranslations but no one said anything?
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>>56901156
Nigga Adamant's original post literally explained exactly what the original mistranslation was, and it's the exact same one these people are making in their translation too.
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>>56901144
It says that the monologuing decreased as a result of her following her will more, and that she’ll keep on doing that.

So again, it “can possibly” be interpreted the way he translated it, but it’s obvious, at least to me, that she’s just talking about how much the Liko of today is not the Liko previously.
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Windii is a translator for the Sonic games lol. Imagine claiming she’s not credible.
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>>56901186
https://hinative.com/questions/197172
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Why do you fags give Adamant any credit after he botched that MPM Yuyama interviews with his interpretations. Twitter has become a Yuyama hate echo chamber because of the irreversible damage from that shitshow.
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>>56901156
>>56901203
So is this "Windii" person saying that 粘着された does in fact NOT mean "was harrassed" and instead "was a sticking point" when the context is specifically death threats on Twitter?
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>>56901238
He didn't botch anything, some retards just screenshotted a comment he made out of context and claimed it was a translation of the interview.
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>>56901240
I don’t know what the hell you guys are talking about, I just came into the thread and saw a name that I recognized. Windii has done work for SEGA, translated the JP Sonic scripts to English, and does some shit with manga translations as well. She’s as credible as you could be. Whether this helps your point or goes against it, I have no clue.
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>>56901189
Threw this into Chatgtp, make of this what you want.
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>>56901249
He posted a bunch of interpretations of the interview that got reposted all over Twitter and caused a giant shitshow to the point where he ended up pussying out and dropped a full translation, days after the fact. He even laughed when someone claimed he caused a storm on Twitter. One of those anime pokemon tubers Charusharu who also teaches in Japan called him out for it too.

These “translators” are just attention whores who post their interpretations as translations. Instead of relying on them like retards, we should wait until we have our own access to whatever is being translated to confirm ourselves. Google Translate is better than some fag’s fanfic.
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>>56901292
So no more monologues at all? I don’t know how I feel about that.
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>Moot mistranslates
>Dephender mistranslates
>Rasenburst mistranslates

I guess we are lucky Horizons chilled out with the staff interviews. Fuck all of them.
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>>56901262
tldr this Windii (if she is indeed the "second person" being referred to here) is accusing, whether knowingly or not, a well known translator of mistranslation by making what was actually the exact same translation error he was correcting in the first place, apparently due to being unfamiliar with the twitter slang context of the word in question.

If I'm going to speculate, the anon in question probably just threw the text at her and asked her to translate, without giving her any necessary context about what had been said about a mistranslation in an earlier tl, so it's probably not her fault entirely.
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>>56901299
>He posted a bunch of interpretations of the interview that got reposted all over Twitter and caused a giant shitshow to the point where he ended up pussying out and dropped a full translation, days after the fact.
He posted the full translation before he made that comment, you dumbass. Pretty sure the translated interview had been posted on /vp/ before the entire twitter shitstorm too.

>He even laughed when someone claimed he caused a storm on Twitter.
Based, fuck Twitter
>One of those anime pokemon tubers Charusharu who also teaches in Japan called him out for it too.
Fuck anime Pokemon tubers too.
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>>56901342
>He posted the full translation before he made that comment, you dumbass.
If he did that then there would’ve have been a shitstorm you fucking dumbass. “Pretty sure” you’re retarded.
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>>56901312
Anon, it's literally just Suzuki saying "Liko monologues less now than she did before", which is just an observation literally everyone with an IQ above room temperature had also made. The only reason Rasenfuck made a big deal out of it was because he mistranslated it and thought she was saying her monologues were going to continue to decrease even further.
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>>56901342
>guy who knows Japanese calls out the other person who knows Japanese for putting out erroneous information
>”Fuck that guy”
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>>56901358
When did he make a big deal out of it? I’m trying to keep up with all of this stuff
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>>56901356
Here's the full interview translation, posted March 9th
https://forums.serebii.net/threads/new-11-episode-series-pocket-monsters-mezase-pokemon-master-starts-january-13th-2023.746874/page-166#post-19586065

Here's the post twitter was screenshotting, posted March 10th:
https://forums.serebii.net/threads/team-rockets-counterattack-1234.758326/page-5#post-19586690

The shitstorm happened because Twitter never noticed the original interview translation, not because it didn't exist.
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Who gives a fuck about shitty translations for nip exec bullshit. Since you’re all in his server, can anyone for the love of everything just repost the new shit he posts so we don’t have to go to a fucking discord server for news?
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>>56901370
He posted 8 "tidbits" from this interview, most of which were mistranslations >>56900664
One of them was that that Liko's monologuing is going to continue to decrease as the story keeps progressing, which as you can see, is not what she said at all.
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>>56901383
NTA but I also agree that posting this weird “interpretation”/“breakdown” was a bad idea. He talks with a lot of certainty like he was talking to Yuyama himself, and reading both the translation and the leaks that talk about MPM’s whole creation process really rubs me the wrong way towards this guy. The plan was to make a mini series made specifically with the fans with the fans in mind in literally every decision they made, yet he makes it seem like they just shitted out something until Horizons was ready to roll.
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>>56901383
> We don't. Yuyama's comments in animedia basically explained that they had a general concept for this series ("Satoshi just traveling around being a kid") and a finale ready, but everything else is basically there because they needed to fill some additional weeks, and the stuff that happens in them happens because someone said "why not do this?". The Latias subplot is there because they wanted a running subplot about a Pokemon following Satoshi in order to make the episodes connected, and it's Latias because "why not?", not because they had any Latias-specific plan in mind. Takeshi and Kasumi are back because Satoshi needs some travelmates and "why not them?", not because anyone had any grand plans for those particular characters. And today's episode exists because "why not bring back all the old Rocketmons?", not to do a big finale for the Rocket trio. It was never meant to be a big finale series tying up loose ends or revisiting old plot threads, nor was it meant to be chapters in a story exploring what it means to be a Pokemon Master. It's just the staff coming up with stuff to fill weeks with because they have weeks of "Satoshi traveling around with no particular goal in mind" to fill until they reach the finale.

It’s actually jarring how wrong he ended up with this
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>>56901430
It probably wasn't the best idea, but it was a forum post made on a forum where he had already posted a translation of the interview he was referring to. It's really not his fault that some fags screenshotted that comment and posted THAT on Twitter instead of the actual full interview, resulting in all the Twitter discussing being based around a comment on what Yuyama said and not the actual translation of what Yuyama said that was equally available to them.
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>>56901453
I'm looking at the interview translation right now and this all seems pretty accurate to me.
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>>56901453
Yeah in reality they already did have the finale, but it was repurposed, and a newer, more expanded finale, would be made entirely built off of fans of the anime after Horizons was delayed. They DID have a Latias centered plot in mind, the Rocket episode WAS meant to be part of their big finale, etc etc. Surprisingly he got one bit right, and that was the part about MPM not being fully centered on the meaning of Pokémon Master, as the docs revealed they always intended that to be the focus for the last two episodes.

Let’s stop relying on “fan translations” especially when all of them are notoriously done by literally one guy lmao
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>>56901474
>They DID have a Latias centered plot in mind
He literally explains in the interview why they picked Latias, and it's not because they wanted to do something with Latias specifically.
>the Rocket episode WAS meant to be part of their big finale
What big finale? They didn't get a big finale, they got an open ended "they continue chasing Ash and Pikachu" finale, obviously so they can still be used in any future Ash specials/movies/series/whatever
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>>56901493
We know they picked Latias because they were going to do some plot centered around Ash reuniting with Latias in Altomare. Why are you being retarded.
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>>56901474
Anon, do you not remember how tons of people assumed the Team Rocket episode was going to be some super important episode where Ash shuts down Team Rocket as an organization and Giovanni dies/goes to jail/goes into exile, and all the whining about how it was just "TRio tries to catch Pikachu but this time they use all their old Pokemon"? That comment is from the thread for that episode, that's what the "big finale" comment is about.
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>>56901525
>We know they picked Latias because they were going to do some plot centered around Ash reuniting with Latias in Altomare.
I didn't know that. It doesn't say that in the interview, is that some leak thing? Because it's not like that actually happened.

And if that's true then Yuyama lied in the interview, that's hardly something to blame the translator for.
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>>56901472
The only part I can agree to is the Misty and Brock part, but that’s less of a “why not?” and more the boardroom collectively going “we HAVE to do this”. Also, he specifically says that the TR episode was made to bring back their old Pokémon and explore where the TRio’s heads are at currently in regards to catching Ash’s Pikachu. This interpretation makes it seem like all of the episode ideas were just suits throwing shit at the wall.
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>>56901546
>and explore where the TRio’s heads are at currently in regards to catching Ash’s Pikachu.
??? It doesn't say that at all.

>I wanted to bring the Rocket Gang's Pokémon back in this episode. There's lots of things about the Rocket Gang that are shrouded in mystery, like what Musashi and the others' current standing IS, and why their Pokémon are being returned NOW... And the episode has some breakup-related drama again too (laughs). I guess this kind of slapstick and mystery is pretty inherent to the group, huh?
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>>56901527
I don’t but I wasn’t a poster here at the time so I probably missed it. Nevertheless, the “why not?” mentality Dephender juxtaposes onto Yuyama and co. is disingenuous as fuck. He implies the episodes past Misty and Brock returning were just shit they came up with to fill time, while Yuyama says that the episodes were made to build off of the theme of the series to begin with. I don’t know how you guys put so much weight into a clearly erroneous interpretation.

Yuyama: I want to make an episode where the original Kanto starter trio reunite
Adamant’s interpretation: I want to make another episode that will fill time until the next one
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>>56896752
>Liko will see a friendship falling apart because of a woman moment, right? Liko needs to watch what she's doing before she repeats the mistakes.
Well, she's doing a good job doing just that.
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Obese Liko and Roy...
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>>56901563
> like what Musashi and the others' current standing IS
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>>56901589
I assume it means "their standing in the Team Rocket organization" and not "how they stand on the question of whether they should continue trying to catch Pikachu" or however you're trying to interpret it. That's not something that was ever "shrouded in mystery".
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>>56901577
Even the Banette episode was made with actual thought put into its development. The only episode where they legit just went “fuck it” was the Lapras episode, and that’s because it was a personal want from Yuyama, not for any other reason.
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>>56901577
>Yuyama says that the episodes were made to build off of the theme of the series to begin with
He literally doesn't say that. I'm looking at the fucking interview right now, including Yuyama's comments on the individual episodes, and it's all stuff like "we did a Lapras episode because I wanted to bring back Lapras".
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>>56901607
Considering the two episodes did deal with TR’s thought process on nabbing Pikachu, I think they were correct, or maybe not. Who knows anymore. I don’t know what is real or fact and just rolling with whatever you guys are saying.
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>>56901622
> He literally doesn't say that
>> "This episode focuses on the heart of this series' theme, 'In what ways does Satoshi empathize with Pokémon?'

Retard, you aren’t looking at shit. Get off Adamant’s dick.
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>>56901613
>Even the Banette episode was made with actual thought put into its development

>"This episode basically started off with us thinking about how we hadn't done an episode about a Ghost type yet in this series. While we were trying to decide which one to use, I was digging through our reference material and thought Juppeta was a surprisingly interesting one. And so this episode was born."

Sure you can call this "thought put into it", but it's largely just "we think Banette's lore is neat, let's do an episode about that".
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>>56901577
>the episodes

>>56901639
>this episode
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Do the leaks reveal Alex's age? I wanna know if I'm in Liko's range of interest
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>>56901646
>created the episode after researching various Ghost-type Pokemon lore
Yes, this is what you’d call “putting thought into it”. Going “this episode is gonna be about Lapras for instance would not be an episode with thought put into it.
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>>56901639
I don't really get what you're going for, desu. Just because the series has an overarching broad theme of "In what ways does Satoshi empathize with Pokémon?" doesn't mean they weren't pretty free to write whatever they wanted. I don't know if this >>56901613 is you, but the Lapras episode also had an underlying theme of Ash empathizing with Lapras and the Wailmer just like all the others. They could've written hundreds of additional episodes with that general underlying concept, like half the fillers in the entire series are about Ash empathizing with some Pokemon he encounters.
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>>56901680
>Do the leaks reveal Alex's age? I wanna know if I'm in Liko's range of interest
No and Liko will care more Gurumin.
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>>56901686
Sure you can call it that, but is it wrong to say the Banette episodes "was made because they thought Banette's lore was cool and thought why not do an episode about that?"

Sorry anon, it just feels like you're really nitpicking a comment made about an interview written for an audience that had read said interview here. The only reason this comment got so much attention in the first place was because people that HADN'T read the interview started commenting on it on their own. If you look at the thread it was originally posted it, nobody's really commenting on it all that much.
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>>56901577
I think you need to look at the comment in the actual context of the thread it was posted in instead of in the context of angry twitterfags looking at it out of context and acting like Yuyama raped their baby. It's from a thread where people were shitting on the Team Rocket episode from MPM because it wasn't the super important episode made to give the TRio or the Team Rocket organization as a whole a big permanent conclusion, where he's referring to the interview to explain that this isn't what the series was ever trying to do.

All this "why not" stuff is referring to how the series is just doing various low-key episodes about stuff they felt like doing (yes, with an overarching theme of Ash empathizing with Pokemon, if that's so important to you to make clear) and was never meant to be this grand victory lap where Ash sends Giovanni to jail in one episode, sweeps Tobias in the next, attends May and Drew's wedding in a third and so on. Some of it is "let's bring back this nostalgic Pokemon", and some of it is "Banette's lore is cool, let's do an episode about that", but none of it is the kind of super important event shit people had hyped themselves into believing they were getting and were shitting on the series for not providing.
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>>56901712
Hey I’m >>56901613 lol

“Pretty free to write whatever they wanted” is not what was said. The episodes having an underlying theme is not the point here, the point is the episodes weren’t made for the sake of being made, like what Adamant interpreted. The episodes were all meant to have a general “feel” revolving an Ash who’s out just doing his thing. In no galaxy is there any other person who would agree to these strange interpretations of Yuyama’s words, and a lot of the general enthusiasm for the project was lost. I have the whole interview in its entirety if you’d like to check it out for yourself.

Also I wouldn’t call you the r word lol, this is a fun and interesting conversation. It is odd though that the community collectively lets one person translate any JP material. You’d think somebody would’ve became a second source by now.
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>>56900960
It's just Akogare.
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>>56901823
See this >>56901819
You're misinterpreting the actual context. He's not shitting on Yuyama or the series, he's defending him and it against people that are shitting on them for not being an epic 13 parter that concludes every random subplot that was left open.

Yeah, you can say shit like "The episodes were all meant to have a general “feel” revolving an Ash who’s out just doing his thing", but that doesn't change the fact that they had 13 weeks to fill with episodes and a lot of the episodes they made could've easily been tossed out without anyone feeling like there was something missing. Just because there's an overall feel to a set of 6 filler episodes doesn't mean they weren't made because they needed 6 more episodes, or that they couldn't easily have made 5 or 7 filler episodes instead of 6 if that's what was needed.

If "a lot of general enthusiasm was lost" because twitterfags looked at a comment out of context after 10 of the 13 episodes had aired, that says more about the twitterfags, really.
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i dont really care about all this translation stuff cuz its all just nip fluff anyways. rasen has a lot of concept art and its all organized. i have no clue why serebii stopped posting that.
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>>56899062
Not cute.
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>>56897972
>Haven't reached the DLC parts in the game yet but I know that Arven, Penny and Nemona show up as part of the last DLC update so there's that too.
Well there's that too. Liko and Roy getting to meet Pecharunt would be neat, although Liko getting hypnotized twice would be a bit suspicious.
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>>56901985
i dont know what you are you talking about, im in his server and he posts the files and stuff for people to look at, he even forwards links or posts from other servers he's in that are also covering the leaks. there was also an announcement a few weeks ago where he got like 20+ users to start an archive project for all the leaks. his stuff is more comprehensive than even the poketuber's. it actually reminds me of how these threads used to be, where links to everything were posted in the first and second post.
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>>56902027
>where links to everything were posted in the first and second post
I miss that. Fuck discord.
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the filepath thing is funny because even after ppg started demanding that, leaks coverage came at the exact same pace, because lazy fucks want access to the files but not post about them
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>>56902037
yeah youre a faggot, what backlash are you even talking about. hes been posting links in his server and tcrf since the leaks started, thats how i discovered it. dont throw a tantrum, i dont see you posting anything from the files.
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10 bucks this is rasentard sucking his own edick.
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>>56902057
>lying about events
>not a single new leak from the past few days has been posted in these threads

kek
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>>56902057
>Because weirdly enough the moment the filepaths are revealed did others noticed the bullshit or inaccuracy.
This. I want details and transparency, not some nonsense that's inconsistent.
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>>56902062
>b-boogieman!!
lol ol ol ol old faggot
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Dot fuck Liko 70 times a week
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>>56902067
rasen lives in your head rent free giga cuck
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>>56902089
>projecting yourself
holy fucking kek how assmad has rasen got you
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>>56896739
>Amethio telling Liko things straight
Yeah that's about right.
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>>56897142
Liko won't think much about it because focusing on that instead of the bigger picture ultimately leads to these things repeating themselves.
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>>56897293
>We know Amethio longs for Gibeon's approval since he's his grandson and shit, but what about the other Explorers?
Spinel probably has some plans going on in the background with Agate, Sango probably got asked but only agreed when they allowed her to do the Kamikaze acts.
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>>56897949
Because it's not a myth.
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>>56897293
Wonder why Anne works for the Explorers despite being a kid
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>>56902363
Why would she?
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>>56902363
Why?
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>>56902363
Why would
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>>56897212
That's a dick move but on the other hand it's Drayton.
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Who will Roy end up with?
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>>56902545
WITH MMMEEEEEEEEE
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>>56902547
Shizune...
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>>56902545
Wakaba
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>>56902545
Satoshi.
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Amethio is canonically gay for Friede.
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Ash x Dawn
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>>56898114
Yes. Liko might not do it but Dot is another caliber.
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>>56896741
Well yeah, probably because that place robbed him of his best friend.
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>>56896724
If that happens I'll kneel.
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>>56896761
KEKKAAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>56902545
Boring question.
Actual question: Who will Ash end up with?
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>>56902858
Pikachu
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>>56902545
>Who will Roy end up with?
Liko.
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>>56902858
Serena
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>>56897293
>We know Amethio longs for Gibeon's approval since he's his grandson and shit, but what about the other Explorers?
Sango probably thought it's funny to be sent off self-destructive Pokemon at young trainers.
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>>56898079
>THE LIARMY WILL DECIMATE LIKO
BASED
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>>56896731
Well I am waiting for that.
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>>56896852
>Because that's what pussy does to a man and Liko ain't gonna be happy to see that.
Where is the "Incel inside" image of Pokemon?
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>>56896784
>He maybe wants to return his Zygarde to its full might.
That's one way. Probably dopping it up with Rakulium as a substitute until it peaks.
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>>56897293
> We know Amethio longs for Gibeon's approval since he's his grandson and shit, but what about the other Explorers?
Ash will defeat Gibeon's Zygarde to teach him a lesson.
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>>56902858
Serena, duh.
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>>56897856
If Crispin fries a Tera Orb, does it just absorb the heat or will it go off like a nuclear fuse?
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>>56896731
Well yeah, he'll live rentfree in Carmine's mind.
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>>56897293
>I wonder if they're gonna do an episode on this sometime.
They'll definitely do an episode or two about this. I guess that they might just do them in packaged-format to keep the amount to an minimum, either most of them all at once or two share an episode respectively.
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>>56896752
>Liko will see a friendship falling apart because of a woman moment, right?
What the fuck is up with that? It won't be because of a woman moment. It will be because of that woman losing her shit.
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>>56902893
>>56902869
Dawn came to cheer for Ash on Master Tournament.
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>>56902940
Dawn is for Koharu. Serena for Ash.
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>>56897142
>Whole story started because a woman ruined the friendship of two guys.
The anime never stops being fathomably based. This is what they are on the inside, nothing more than dark creatures wrecking the bonds of boys.
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>>56902946
Please ignore the F ag
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>>56902858
>>56902862
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>>56902940
fanfic tournament.
Ash only fought in one tournament and he got mogged by Richy in it.
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>>56896720
I dun git it.
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>>56902952
>>56902950
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>>56897276
>I want to see the look on his face of "but i just stabbed you in the back???" as lucius drags him to safety. Yakuza does that alot and it's always funny/great.
Lucius helped out a lot around the world with his Pokemon to the point where his Pokemon got memorized as heroes. Kinda more curious about what that woman and Gibeon were doing during that time. Were they traveling with him? Or were they already split up by then and most of the stuff from that storybook is him traveling to Rakua after losing his homie?
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>>56902545
>Who will Roy end up with?
Shizune. Takes an island boy to woe one island girl.
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>>56902970
>Kinda more curious about what that woman and Gibeon were doing during that time.
Haven't considered that. Him being in the possession of Terapagos speaks for after they were split up. That Lucius's own notes make no mentions of her or Gibson seems weird.
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>>56902975

It's more convenient for the plot if Lucius doesn't mention his wife or Gibeon in his diary.
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>>56903022
Or if there is something he wants to keep off the book.
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>>56903022
Why be remembered as a team of 3 trainers when you can instead have all the glory for yourself as the only trainer that's remembered?
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>>56903030

I do hope there's an actual explanation, but I'm worried it may just be a plot convenience kind of thing.

>>56903038

That would be a funny direction to take with Lucius, but anipoke would never.
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>>56902975
>>56903022
>>56903030
I figured it's supposed to be like a (scientific) journal, not really a private diary, considering his drawing of Terapagos
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>>56903117

Oh, that's a good point.
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Girls are better with a cheeky , cheerful, confident and mischievous personality. This is why Dawn managed to shine as a co-protagonist which even Goh and Alain failed to do. Girls like them are actually more realistic & makes it easy for the audience to relate to them.

Beta doormat girl only work when they are extremely attractive with a crush on the main character which is why only Serena managed to become popular but Liko, Koharu and anime Lillie failed to gain the same popularity.
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>>56902975
>Him being in the possession of Terapagos speaks for after they were split up. That Lucius's own notes make no mentions of her or Gibson seems weird.
That was more a book about Terapagos and Rakua rather than a explicit diary.
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Today I once again give praise to Chuuni Executive for saving the anime.
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Wave of hands. How many of here can speak Central Paldean or Western Paldean?

Are you Andalusian like Liko?
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>>56903322
El andaluz ni siquiera se puede considerar castellano
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Liko will surprise Alex with a bloody package.
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>>56903449
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>>56903463
Don't be sick, Liko was only gonna send him Roy's head.
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>>56903642
That's not what I expected when I first heard Liko wants to give head to her father
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Sometimes I reckon the only thing dumber than the Bengali opinion's on Pokemon is his politics...
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>>56903726
You sneaky bastard xD
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>>56903936
I swear to god she made one for Alex
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>all his posts were deleted

Lmao
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>>56904245
>it's a disguised fleshlight
l-lewd
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>>56897325
This brat is a goldmine.
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>>56904456
She isn't
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The one book made it seem like rayquaza was lucius' starter, but I assume it was a smoliv, and the order the rvt are recapturing them in goes in the same order as him capturing them originally.
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>>56904519
That's actually a good point if Fug is the last stage towards the paradise, as in reaching a legend to go to a place beyond dreams.
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>>56902882
> Lucario : Aura Pokémon.
> Zygarde: Leader Of Aura Trio.
Makes sense.
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>>56904519
>the order the rvt are recapturing them in goes in the same order as him capturing them originally.
Huh that checks out in a way. I guess it also recounts the leaps of difficulties he went through towards Rakua.
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>According to YGO threads, only DM and GX were good while rest of the series were a disappointment.
>DM and GX had Yugi as protagonist and supporting character.

Looks like I was right about protagonist rotation again. Original protagonist needs to be involved in the show even if the mantle goes to the new protagonist.

Pokémon 2023 would only work if Ash reappears as a supporting character and help RVT from the sideline. Trying to bet the new series on an entire cast made of OC was a mistake specially after Alain and Goh flopped. Unfortunately some executives are too egoistic and overestimate their OC.
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>>56902545
>Who will Roy end up with?
Liko is the most obvious pick.
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>>56904898
Ash isn't Yugi he's a Jonathan Joestar which means he is uninteresting and never comes back after a better protagonist replaces him like Roy. Original protagonists that no one cares about and never comes back are a thing and I forget Ash even exists until you post which is proof Ash not coming back. At this point it obvious
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>>56905064
>Ash isn't Yugi he's a Jonathan Joestar
Ash is way too popular than Jonathan Joestar. Roy haven't done anything compelling enough to replace Ash and there is no point after 70 episodes.
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>>56905126
Wrong because Jonathan Joestar get referenced in future series which proof Ash not even as popular as Jonathan.
Heck Roy about to capture a freaking Rayquaza and Ash not even get a single legendary in 30 years talk about uninteresting
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>>56905164
>Wrong because Jonathan Joestar get referenced in future series
No wonder Pokémon 2023 is so hypeless.
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>>56905270
How easily does you think Roy defeat Ash if they meet ?
at this point it's obvious that it looks like Roy Rayquaza one shot Ash entire team . Heck Ash probably try to use Thunderbolt and not even understand Rayquaza too powerful for a Pikachu that even weaker than Cap . So maybe Roy go easy on Ash and fight with newer pokemon like maybe a baby Nymble that hop around and dodge all Ash attacks humorosly
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>>56905064
>>56905164
>>56905276
Stop replying to him you fucking moron
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>>56904245
Liko would never.
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Extremely Rotund Liko and Roy
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>>56905682
No one cares.
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I hope one day a main character gets a Raichu. And not like Goh who had just had one, I mean someone with a Raichu on their main team.
Evolved pokemon are stronger than unevolved pokemon
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>>56905840
Tierno and his breaking dancing cool Raigirl wasn't cool enough for ya?
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>>56905840
A big belly Pokemon needs a big bellied Trainer.
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>>56905898
>Tierno
>main character
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>>56905898
Tierno isn't main character enough. Which just makes things feel worse since he might have been if an OC wasn't the main character of XY. We came this close only to get robbed.
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Would Sango bully nerds?
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>>56905937
Sango bullies everyone.
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>people still aren't following the /padt/ filename's advice
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>>56905898
God he's so fucking ugly, I hate this fat French fuck so much
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https://x.com/anipoke_PR/status/1856607939697750074

Lapras is angry.
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This is very cute, apparently Roy and Terapagos are getting them too
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>>56907088
WTF man, why the turtle instead of me!?
I'm the freaking water starter for Arceus sake!!
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>>56907088
Can this be the next OP?
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>>56907157
>>56907157
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