Previous:>>56927579>Friend ID Surveyhttps://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScx82fFuZO5JSneihERecx5UKEJv42EGQKYZM3flPh_ERIa-A/viewform?usp=sf_link>Friend ID Sheethttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DGhOfaMX6D_YUR-P39_OJdVmAl0uacohIRstE9oN9SQ/edit?usp=sharing>Tournament results/decklistshttps://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournaments/completed?game=POCKET&format=all&platform=all&type=online&time=4weeks>Upcoming events/datamines/schedule:https://pocket.codex.gg/news/schedule//vp/ battle passwords to battle with other anons (might want to say in thread which one you wanna battle under so others can join you)>/vp/ anything:vp>/vp/‘s own meta (no coin flips of any kind, no ex, no Dragonite):vpnx>meta decks or high level play:vpmeta
Misty is rigged.
>omg x psychic / fire / water card is so fun guise :D>just have gardevoir / moltres / misty flipping heads>I can't believe nobody's ever thought of this!!!
>braps in your faceyour response?
>>56930738WTF is this real?
How can anyone stand this unfun shit game? Too many turn 2 I win cards if you want to play something like golem you may as well just stick your thumb in your ass
>>56930853Okay go play your exodia then.
>>56930840VIVA LAS VEGAS>Flips 2 tails
>>56930864Suck the end of my dick Fagmon(ex)
>just missing 1 gardevoir to finish my deckthis is brutal. kinda wanna dump $20 and hope to get lucky not gonna lie
>>56930904Garde is rare, not gonna get it that easily.
It's kind of funny how many people I see trying to double retreat when they get poisoned. Then they instantly concede.
>>56930923poison makes anyone panic retreat even if they don't have anything else with energy on it
>>56930908I got Gardevoire a few days ago but I'm still missing Kirlia fml. I guess I could just buy it with points
Why are there 2 threads
Pidgeot is so much funNot sure what to pair him with though; arbok doesn't really seem powerful enoughRape ape seems pretty good to snipe any bench basics, but I only have 1
>oh neat this wonder pick has 4 cards that I need still>surely I won't choose the one and only one that I already have
>>56930908>Have 4 Mewtwo ex>0 Gardevoir
>>56931023That’s been my experience for about 5 picks in a row. Very glad that I didn’t waste a bunch of hourglasses on that shit.
Finally a good pack. Pikachu EX one day so I can meta deck.
>>56930738FRIEND CODE
lol this deck makes pikachu ex people always concede around turn 4
>>56928657I've been tearing people to shreds with this deck with only the 1 pika and still I'd still want raichu instead of heliolisks. Zapdos and Pikachu enable to fuck out of eachother.
>full charizard line>full art charizard>two machamps exI just want primeape
>>56931421>pulling on zard packs>two 2star rarity cards>five 1star rarity cards>two standard ex cards>eight rares (triple diamond)Yet I still don’t have a single ninetales or primeape. I certainly would love to run anything that isn’t pika…if the game would give me a few uncommons kek.
>>56931421>>56931490None of this is even remotely strange. In fact, I would expect it. You're just discovering why booster packs are predatory. It takes over 80 packs to get a playset of the commons in a pack.
Please, please, please, can I have a alt/illustrated art Charmeleon?
>>56931553Only if he decides to stop living in the bottom of my deck.
Do the lower difficulty have better drop rates on Lapras? At 25 packs and still don't have one and the event is ending soon.
>>56931490I feel you broI finally got my second ape today, and it's so much better to not have to fuck around with one
After facing 20+ Mewtwos in the past two days, all of whom drew their Gardevoir line within the first 4 turns, I'm confident in saying that Mewtwo itself isn't even the problem. Don't get me wrong, it's a great card, but it has its weaknesses. It uses Potion better than any other pokemon in the game, it hits a lot of really good breakpoints, but it's still mortal. All Mewtwo itself is really doing is being the most efficient "tool" for Gardevoir's busted ass. There's no other deck in the game where you're never required to actually take a risk. Every single other deck in the game, the thing you put the most effort into has to move into the active spot in order to actually make use of that effort. If I want to attack with the Charizard I charged up, I have to put it in the active spot. But Gardevoir isn't like that. Gardevoir is the most valuable card on the board at all times, but it never has to risk anything in order to win the game. You can charge up the thing in the active spot while Gardevoir is safely in the back.Nothing else compares to the level of value Gardevoir pumps out every turn while staying completely safe. Not Pidgeot, not Hypno, not Butterfree, nothing. In the future, when we get other value engines, it'll be fine, but right now it's literally a card from like 4-5 sets in the future that's been dropped into the core set.Easiest nerf in the game - Gardevoir can only use its ability while in the active spot. You're welcome.
middlebros, we win again
>>56930757kek
>>56931606
>>56931608top right has always been good to me
>people already hitting max level (50)>0 special rewards for doing so>paypiggies seething as a result
New event in 3 minutes?
Paypigs btfo
>>56931654I'm not the man wearing a dress.
>>56931683>MistyniggerYou're no better than him.
It's over.
>>56931692I mean, I'm cackling in Gengar, man. My psychic deck is off meta and is hilarious for it.
>>56931697>tfw I have the ultimate trade fodder
>Lapras event ends>no replacement
>>56931713inb4>this card is special and cannot be traded
>>56931717Surely the event will be rerun at some point.
>>56931606Wtf are you talking about bro, 20 damage every turn is the same as generating an extra energy passively
>>56931697>tfw last promo was my boy
>>56931717I’ll just make him sparkly in that case. It’s a win win
>>56931697I don't get it. Weren't there supposed to be more promo cards? Were the rest just super rare?
>hate pvp because I get salty fast (I still always send thanks when I lose)>already finished the solo missions >not even level 20 yetI'm tired of this, Grandpa!
>>56931749first toggle on the missing cards switch, then go into the search settings and these will be at the very bottom. they only appear if the missing card toggle is turned on
>>56931750Is there a trick to the expert battles besides resetting over and over for a perfect start? I got bored, everything else done but experts sitting at 26/30
>>56931758Not really.You kind of just have to keep conceding until you get a good open and the AI opens like shit.
>>56931758build better decks
>>56931758Which decks do you have now? Do you mind sharing their builds?
You keep the Event Hourglasses.
>>56931771FUCK
>>56931768No real decks, just whatever I've built from booster packs. I am sure I can just keep playing the battles again until I get a great start but it's boring
>>56931750I'm with you, I like the AI battles. was hoping there would be another event but apparently not
>>56931725Yeah to be honest I don't know what I was thinking. And Victreebel can drag ANY basic pokemon into the active spot, that's crazy. Good thing it can't do it from the bench, whew.
>>56931797Which missions are gatekeeping you at 26/30? Also, you should try to only open from one specific pack to build one specific deck. For your Electric deck, you could try cutting down on monsters and focusing on rushing out Pikachu or Zapdos. If you can get closer to picrel, try that.
>>56931822I have to buy some of the cards with tickets (which I have) but I think I'm only one Sabrina off from this deck, thanks anon I'll try it
>>56931822Beating starmie with a fire deck, plus the rarity challenge but my fire deck will satisfy it. And Pikachu with water, then Mewtwo with fighting. Still gonna build up the Pikachu deck though based on your recommendation and work on the other decks
>>56931771well shit thought i was being efficient and used all of them. oh well nothing $20 cant fix lol.
>>56931831You should probably save your tickets for other pokemon if you're pulling from the pack that has them. Sabrina is an OK pick if you aren't pulling from Charizard.>>56931844I won't tell you to get good, but I will tell you to get lucky. Just reset until the CPU has a bad hand and you have a good one. I was able to beat the Expert CPU with both decks in picrel. Technically the Blainepill deck is the easiest because it's high risk/reward. For me, I went second with Vulpix lead and Ninetales in hand, Tail Whipped, and then Shot down whatever was in the lead. With luck the CPU couldn't evolve it yet so it was Psyduck or Staryu. For my Charizard deck I got lucky with Moltres flips while charging up the Charizard line, and then when it got KO'd, I shot down her team with Blast Burn.
I will never get a Sabrina card>just spend 70 exchange poin-I refuse.
>>56931866wonderpick it
>>56931863Thanks, by tickets I meant the pride shop tickets which I'm now gathering I should have already used to buy all the item cards
>>56931606Magneton can do the same shit though kind of.
>>56931868I’ve tried every chance I get, just missed another one like 15 mins ago from wonder pick. Same goes for Koga and Surge. I’m getting sick of exclusively pulling charizard packs with my fingers crossed
>>56931606>Easiest nerf in the game - Gardevoir can only use its ability while in the active spot. You're welcome.there wouldn't be a mewtwo deck then.
>>56930757Reminds me of gashi gashi
Someone should write a pastebin with info for new players.>>56931869Oh, yeah, you definitely should have. I don't know if you finished the extended tutorial but some of them are in there too.
I will NEVER use an ugly card sleeve or some ugly playmate. DEFAULT FOR LIFE.
>>56931898How do I start the extended tutorial? And I don't know if I already said it but thanks anon or thanks again
>>56931910It's here, scroll to the bottom. You may have already done it yourself, but I'm only mentioning it because I forgot to do it and had to go back (I was more excited that I had go more hourglasses and just wanted to pull).
>>56931918No it is new to me, thanks again
>>56931918oh shit I totally forgot to do those extra tutorials too lol, thanks for the reminder anon
why am i having so much fun with this little game?
>>56931921>>56931934No problem guys
>>56931939>helping out a couple of anons>saw this on my wonderpick>normally a top right/bottom right guy, but bottom left was calling to me>mfwWoooo, I'm really happy this worked out because I used the last of my hourglasses to get to 4 stamina.
>>56931955Very cool I'm happy for you brother thanks for the help
>Chari packs finally caught up on normal cards for collection>Only 4 unique Star or higherFuck you.
I want to thank Hypno, Alakazam, and Sabrina for my 200th win. The game doesn't give anything until 500 wins which rewards an insulting 50 shinedust.
>>56931903I don't like the sleeves either, but because it just magically changes the back instead of actually making it look like the cards are in sleeves.
>>56931771well, I sure do hope we will get new set of those next event cause I wasted them all and I still ended up with only 1 fucking EX Lapras (good enough since I only wanted him for collection but still what the fuck)
>>56931903meowth cute
Where's the news guys. I have 12 pulls worth of hourglasses and I'm waiting for the new pack....
>>56932061Still like a month to go12 pulls isn't really all that good thoughWe need way moreThe HG trickle is going to murder this gameForcing people to summon daily when they're 'done' with the current set of packs, or not even done either, to just get met by repeats is a complete and utter waste
How many pack points do we get until the new set release?
>>5693207412.5 a day if you're fully f2p, plus whatever we get from events.
>No single player event>No wonder pick event>Everyone already maxed out the vs eventdead game
Pocket needs a voice chat, like how X&Y trading has voice chat.
>>56931866>spend 70 points for 1 sabrina>have opened 2 sabrinas since then in like 10 packs
Mistakes were made
>>56932108that's what's holding me back from spending points on two middle stages I need (Kirlia and Charneleon FUCK YOU). I just know as soon as I cave, I'll pull one of them in the next pack.
>>56932109I'm probably going to buy that too, but I'm not gonna feel good about it.
>>56932109at least you're not as bad as the people that had the immersive Mew day 1
>have two illustration Nidokings and two illustration Nidoqueens>Zero regular versions of either
>First turn: Ponyta - no energy - no basics, no bench>Opponent first turn: - Articuno -> Misty -> 3 heads -> Ice Blizzard >GGWhy is this allowed? And Nintendo has said they won't be nerfing anything right?
>>56932134I think I'd take spending money to open some pack crack over cosmetics, yet here I am.
>>56932139The game says that bans and changes are always on the table.
Why yes, I do have both a crown charizard and an immersive art charizard, YET I STILL DONT HAVE A SINGLE CHARMELEON
>>56932139why would Nintendo say anything? they're not associated with this game in any way.
>got 2 FA Weezing and Dragonite>decided to try it out>matches where I lack a stage 1 or 2, or when no evolution for KoffingYeah, this deck is a meme
I know pull rates in this game are probably more realistically based on the actual TCG by design, but I noticed DeNA also produces MastersEX. I don't know how to calculate probability or statistics, but I recall MastersEX having 10% chance to pull 5* on some banners. What's the percentage chance that you'll pull a 4 Diamond EX - Crown Gold at all, if you consider them all together?
>>56932160whenever I tried that deck I just had the worst fucking pull luck over and over and over again.
>>56932152>this guy has 3 immersives and 2 crowns while i have literally noneThis game sucks ass
>>56932139I more often than not see misty getting more tails than heads
Top right bros..
>>56932152i went through the decklist of like, all these decks that have good tournament results and suggestions from what people are playing, and i am like 70 packs deep and i cannot build a single one fully. full charizard package but no moltres, no pikachu, no raichu, but two zapdos ex, no weezings no muk no pidgeot, no kanga, nothing from the ralts line but two mewtwo ex (no normal mewtwo). i'm genuinely just playing pure zapdos because it's the best thing i can build and it can kind of cheese wins because the matches always end by turn 10.
>>56932109>Erika>Mistakedoes not compute
>>56932177You got Starmies?
Can Pikachu ex evolve into normal Raichu?
>>56932180nope lol
>>56932177Just run a cheap Blaine deck
Who should the Johto 3 pack mascots be?Assuming it gets 3
>>56932177if it makes you feel better, I get the best results in vs with a blaine deck containing zero ex Pokémon. you should try that.
>>56932190Lugia, Marill and Typhlosion
>>56932190Ty - Lugia - Suicide
>>56932187no ninetales, rapidash or magmar
>>56932190tyranitar, scizor, typhlosion
>>56932190Tyranitar - Suicune - Meganium
>>56932177What about Venasaur EX?
>>56932205realistically speaking, if global warming ever came into awareness in the Pokémon world, would they try to eradicate all Wheezing bloodlines?
>>56932208don't Galarian Weezing eat pollution
>>another immersive charizard>no moltresFucking bullshit baka
>>56932208Global warming is caused by groudon
>>56932217I've been opening mewtwo packs hunting for the illustration articuno ex, and have so far gotten 4 of the 5 mewtwos needed for the avatar, 2 immersive mewtwo ex and only 1 gardevoir
>>56932208A lot of poison pokemon are literally made from pollution. They are a symptom, not a cause. So exterminating them wouldn't do anything.
>>56932162I took a look at it and it seems like a 24% (24.04% because of god packs) chance for at least one. That seems horseshit because I am a lucklet and I've heard testimonies that go against the rates but unless I am mistaken:>Cards 1-3 in standard packs always common>Card 4 has a 5% chance to at least be an EX>Card 5 has a 20% chance>95% and 80% chance either slot contains a dud (rare or uncommon, commons can't generate in either slot)>(.95)(.8) = 76% chance both cards are duds, ergo 24% chance one isn'tSomeone more autistic than me should check my math because I know I'm not nearly that lucky.
Anyone else got 0 Lapras? I'm fucking mad. I had over 40 packs too
>>56932223Stfu Kyogre
Even once you do pull Charmeleon from the packs, the problem is you'll have trouble pulling it from the deck. Just lost a game because both Charmeleon were in my last 4 cards. The evo supporter/item cards can't come soon enough.
>>56932236Send a formal complaint
>>56932236I have like 5, got any cute full art trainer cards youd want to trade?
>>56932193i'm genuinely just so unlucky, if i have the EX that is useful in the deck i don't have the normals, if the deck is all normals i'm missing the big pokemons.i really wanted to build a surge deck because i have two star surges (lol) but i have no raichus or magnetons. so i thought about a blaine deck because i pulled enough cards to get two charizard EXs, so i look and i have one blaine and none of the cards that are listed on him.so then i'm like okay what if i play weezing arbok. no weezing. ok.. i got two mewtwo EX surely i pulled the ralts line.. no gardevoir only 1 kirlia... marrowack maybe? only pulled a single EX but might be something there.. zero cubones lol. don't even have enough for a cheesy dragonite deck, missing a dragonite and dratini. instead all i have is like 15 arboks, 15 of each random colorless, all that dogshit. idk what other peoples ratios are but i'm at 160 unique cards collected in 450 cards pulled.i really don't want to use my pack points because pulling the EXs seems so difficult i would rather put it into that. it's whatever, not like i'll be entering tournaments but it makes me feel bad to be so incomplete. friends i'm playing with are at similar cards pulled and much more viable decks.>>56932207nope.. don't even have an erika
>Little busy so put battle on auto (was versing a bot)>Glance down, Marowak EX is active, 1 defeat but no problem>Do stuff>Glance back down, Marowak EX has 2 energy, is up against idk and will die in one hit>Think to myself "Ok, retreat to benched Sandslash who is full of energy and go in for the kill">Fucking auto decides to flip coins instead>Dies>The spirit inhabiting my phone is so disappointed it crashes the gameFucking alrighty then.
>>56930757Misty gave me so much head I've been sucked dry
>>56932264your problem seems to be that you started opening other packs before getting everything good from one pack. rookie mistake.
>>56932273
>>56932160Yeah, until we get tutor for 1st/2nd stage this deck is too unconsistent but I still love it. When it works it's really fun, but for now I'll stick to EXeggs*Venu
Can he enable Gengar?50 damage for 1 energy is bretty good... 70 is kinda concerning though (normal haunter is 80hp/30damage)
did this nigga really say tutor lmao
>>56932276i think i started on charizard packs, so i opened about 20 and after that i had two charizard EXs so i switched to pikachu packs to get a pikachu EX, at least another 20+. and i didn't get shit this time so then i started mixing pikachu and mewtwo packs
>>56932235I'm terrible at math, but 24% doesn't sound realistic at all. The idea that roughly 1/4 packs is supposed to have a basic EX or better goes against the sales model for the average Gacha game, and I don't think it's my experience so far at all. Are they lying about their pull percentages?
I can't fucking wait for promo Jiggs to make Wigglytuff ex even more of a monster
>>56932293there's literally no way you opened 20 Charizard packs but don't have 2 ninetales and vulpix. Post proof right fucking now.
>>56932303I think it's not at least an EX, just guaranteed a rare card in general.
>>56932310Where would the damage comes form in that deck? Do you pair it with Weezing?
>>56932318its 1 rapidash, 1 normal arcanine 2 arcanine ex
>>56932285Oh, don't get me wrong. Dragonite definitely feels unstoppable when it's online, but getting to that part is a real ordeal>hand with Kogas but only Koffing on board
>>56931683Wow congrats! Did your coin flip the right way this game?
>>56932276I'm not as bad off as him, but I opened nothing but charizard until I got 2 of every ex except starmie, but I still can't use anything but exeggutor ex with the grass starter deck because I have no charmeleon for charizard/moltres, no machop/machoke for machamp and no vulpix/ninetales for Blaine. Hopefully this coming event will get me the charmeleons I need to play charizard.
>>56932303ex aren't what people chase after, so no, it's not against the sales model.>>56932323All 4-Diamond ones are ex right now. This includes everything above it though, which isn't all ex.
>>56932318I'm probably 44 packs deep and I have 2 Vulpix btw.
Someone beat this?
>>56932367How about I beat you?
>>56932260I doubt they'll make promo cards tradeable at all.
lollmao even
>>56932383promo cards will definitely be tradeable
>>56932289no, he's worse than normal haunterflimsy, you'd have to play giovanni to kill stage 1s just hoping you get heads cause no one leads with stuff like staryu
>>56932397So that people can miss out on FOMO and not spend money on time limited events? No way
>>56932367>Wasting your stamina refills on dupesWhy
You are tasked by The Pokemon Company to come up with the worse way to implement Trading.What do you do?
>Arcanine eventPuppy!>>56932431Nobody answer this. DeNA is fishing for ideas. Don't let your nightmares become your reality.
>>56932431Gold requiredRandom goes inRandom comes out
>>56932411bro not a single person spent money on the lapras event
>>56932437I spent 2 pokegold...
>>56932431Ok. So visualize how wonder pick works. 5 cards you get to pick 1 right? So each trade partner has to put in 5 cards and their respective partner gets to select 1 card out of those 5. However, you don't get the unselected 4 cards back. Those are the cost of trading. Further, just like wonder picking, it's all random. You don't get to see which card you pick.
>>56932431Proprietary link cable required.
My only deck for versus can’t do anything against Mewtwo so of course:>Game 1>turn 1 mewtwo ex draw>concede>Game 2>turn 1 Mewtwo Ex draw>concede>Game 3>Turn one MewtwomEx draw>concede>Game 4>Turn 1 Mewtwo Ex draw>concede
>>56932503Son of a bitch, you're hired.
>>56932412To be fair, I did waste all of my stamina regen because I thought the hourglasses would go away with the event. I did however only pull one lapras form those packs. So I pulled 10 naturally.
>>56932431>introduce ANOTHER stamina type just for trading>also introduce another hourglass type for said stamina>the rarer the card is the more stamina it costs for the trade>it costs stamina to put things up for trade and also to accept trades from others>trading stamina takes the same time to charge as the event stamina unless you use gold
>>56932431It uses the same stamina as opening a pack.
I don't know how I can have done so many wonder picks at this point and still have never picked a single fucking thing.
>>56932572Pledge your allegiance to one spot and focus on it
>>56932583I have. I've never picked anything but top right.
>like Fire and Water>hate coinflip effects in every TCG I played >Misty and Moltres are pretty much mandatory for those elementsWhat should I main instead without those type of effects?
>>56932598>FireBlaine has no coinflip
>>569323184 Charizard EX, 2 immersive Charizard, 4 Moltres EX, 4 Machamp EX. Still no Charmeleon btw. Only just got my second Machoke. Only 1 Machop.
>>56931873>requires a trainer support>only works on a few, specific cardsMagneton is bad (until we get a better way of exploiting it / better mon to use with surge). Surge taking up your trainer support for the turn is a big deal.
>>56932598You can play Blaine for Fire. Waters best deck is Starmie EX, and with only a 2 cost attack it by no means requires Misty to function.
>>56932431Physically meet at location to touch phones.
>two Mistys>two tails on the first coinSadly the only decks I have are coin tosses
>>56932626Get licked lol
I just wanted a second exeggutor ex, how did I end up with 2 immersive charizard exs? I don't really wanna play a deck that autoloses to pika, even if I have the bling for it now
Jesus fucking christ put a limit on the sleep status. Should be max one turn only
>>56932635Every time I've tried sleep it's been max 0 turns. I've never seen someone fail to wake up immediately.
>>56932635it's a coin flip on every player turn, there's only a 12% chance it even lasts longer than a single round
I have Zapdoes EX is that good?
>>56932661Wrong. Assuming you’re using something that can guarantee sleep status (like Wigglytuff ex), the opponent has a 50% of entering their turn with a useless mon in the active slot.
>>56932670By itself? Not really. Zapdos ex is best used to enable other lightning cards, and the only one worth supporting right now is pika ex.
>>56932671I know I'm on the board for man-children and literal children but goddamn man, c'mon man>longer than a single roundyou flip the coin at the start of your turn, 50%you flip the coin again at the start of your opponents turn, 25%you flip the coin once more at the start of your turn, 12,5%
I have been opening packs for a week like an idiot trying to get a 2nd Staru to match my 2 Starmie EX before realising it is just 35 exchange points.
>>56932670It's good in the sense that it has big HP to tank hits while having 1 cost retreat. It's mostly there to peck and buy time for Pika EX.If you plan to use it as your main wincon, prepare for coinflips.
Anyone I battle with paid Erika stuff is getting a friend request, I know they got some good wonder picks
I finally got my 45 wins
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Why does Dragonite run Articuno
>>56932503diabolical.this would make trading horrible while also creating a trash can for your worthless dupe fodder. amazing.
>>56932702same now what do we do?
>>56932503dena employee i kneel
>>56932711well, the idea of a dragonite deck is to stall until you get 4 energy on dnite, so what you could do is something like:2 regular Articuno1 or 2 misty2 hypno that are just gonna coin flip from bench 2 dragonitethunder and water energystall your enemy with articuno paralyze and hypno sleep coin flips until your nuke is ready. I don't have the cards for this, somebody please try it for me. i can see it being better than stalling with weezing.
I expect trading to be 1:1 in rarity, so no trading a ratata for a crown mewtwo.
>>56932702>>56932733you're supposed to get 50 for the extra dust
STOP RED CARDING ME TURN 1 REEEEEEEE
>>56932702Damn I never even noticed Machamp had a special version it looks great.
>opponent is clearly winning>fails a Misty, but it doesn't really matter for him>he concedes the matchUh, thanks, I guess.
>>56932711Very few viable partners, most is just deck filler.I don’t have Articuno so in my dragon deck it’s Bruxish, Meowth, and Aerodactyl.This deck is not optimal.
>>56932776Salt is powerful
>>56930929I've been using NidoBock but I feel like you need to get pretty lucky for it to work. When it does however it's strong.Mind to post full?
I need replays
>>56932776Did you just play me? I run the "I'm confident at flipping heads!" phrase and concede immediately if Misty fails me regardless of advantage
>>56931683kek mistysisters are lower than any other lifeform. I could build any Articuno deck but it's just not fun, not even to win with
>>56932507Sounds like a bad deck. Unlike Pikachu and Starmie, Mewtwo is quite slow.
>>56932791sure, here you go, pretty basic but does the job
>>56932805Dunno, I was playing a discount Blastoise EX deck.
is there a deckbuilder site yet?
>>56932765Cute
>>56932684Your math is wrong because you’re forgetting the potential to wake up after your turn. There are two scenarios where you’ll be rolling for wake-up for a second time before your turn (tails/tails and tails/heads).
>>56932431This is the most probable >>56932542 I would be surprised of the opposite. Also, you can trade only base forms up to 3 diamond rarity
>>56932840It's on the OPhttps://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournaments/completed?game=POCKET&format=all&platform=all&type=online&time=4weeks
>>56932827Exactly like mine but full art GioWith enough luck this deck can beat any other deck in 5 turns, pretty crazy
>2nd EX Blasty from Pika boostersFunny seeing how I had to WP both EX Venusaurs and Charizards. Anyways, is there any good Blastoise deck out there? So far I was running some weird homebrew with 2x Tentacruel, 1x EX Arti and 1x EX Blastoise line
>>56932855more often than not Arbok does all the heavy lifting, but if I can get Nidoking fully built it's pretty much over from there
>>56932750no thanks dust is useless
>>56932765>two evolinesSeems awful
>>56932877caterpie can fill your hand with grass types regardless of if they're basic or not easy
>>56930738I'm running an insane deck with Jolteon Vaporeon (both x1) and some colorless attacking shitters like Golbat and Mienshao (also x1 each), one Ditto as well. It's definitely a meme but it's fun as fuck, can't wait to add Flareon to it. I also tried a Helioptile Frosmoth version but it's not that much of an improvement. Would run a Colorless attacking Fire type if there were any, and Whimsicott is absolute ass. Want to put either Persian or Spearow or Pideot line when I complete them
>>56932881caterpie can also die in a single turn and then you have 1 less caterpie to evolve and the other one is at the bottom of your deck.
I think I figured it out. >fire up wonder pick>ask nearby kid to pick one>she missed the Pika Ex>nailed the full art Electrode (my first Electrode)I'm happy. I need Electrodes and I really like this full art.The key is having someone else pick for you. It greatly reduces the RNG from detecting your desire, which brings it much closer to a true 20% chance. Add in the off-chance that your picker has ESP, and those odds skyrocket. You just have to make sure that they know nothing about either: tcgs, pokemon, or whatever you're aiming for. The less they know about all 3, the better. I think, perhaps, the best practice would be to either rotate pickers or choose a new one every time, if possible, to make sure that their picks are fresh.
>>56931863Drop the red card for another Blaine and you've got a respectable deck there.
>>56932843honestly, what are we even arguing about here, that wigglytuff and vileplume are overpowered?because the original posit was>put a limit on the sleep status. Should be max one turn onlyobviously if you apply it again your opponent is gonna have to deal with it, again. that rule change wouldn't even do anything about that.
Fuck
>>56932943>>56932952sry wrong pic
tryin to get as many of the ai battle rewards by auto battling. not sure if the AI can do it for the top tier, but i have completed all the rewards on the first 2 now
I have done like 50 wp total excluding the free event picks and I have yet to get a single card I wanted. 20% my ass.
Was shitting myself at the matchup until I realized lil bro here didn’t read the conditions for his Pika attack.What a baffling deck; he had a Wiggly Ex too
>>56932890There is also Swanna for colorless water but its alot of energies for a meh 1 stage.Was hoping to encounter a deck like yours.
>>56932921I misunderstood the other anon’s post, and he responded with bad math. I’m also pretty shit with statistics, but I *think* the probability of something like wigglytuff having your active sleep for two of your turns is actually 25%. (tails/heads/tails + tails/tails/heads) or (12.5 + 12.5)I don’t think it’s broken, personally.
>>56933023You mean he missed lethal by trying to use pika ex with an empty bench?
>>56933051Yeah first time I have seen a zero damage Pika.That other Pika wasn’t on the bench during his first strike.
>>56933051He means that that little china man's deck is effectively useless. A Pika Ex that isn't mono-electric is completely gimping the deck. Articuno doesn't help or need Pikachu in any situation. And Ditto is a bit of a joke card that you can throw in for fun if you have an extra slot and correctly believe that red card is a meme.
>>56933051Are you a Yugioh player?
>two of this fucker>immersive pikachu ex and regualr pikachu ex>no voltorbs>one electrode>one raichui'm gonna kms
>>56932957I own this card irl :)>>56933069Just buy them with pack points dude
>>56933069Are you stupid? You don't need Voltorbs or Raichus. Hell you don't even really need Zapdos EX. You literally just need Pikachu and the rest is just icing on the cake.
>>56933074i've spent all my pack points on giovannis
>>56933068kek
>>56932846It'd allow 4 diamonds too. Sure they're ex, but they're required for deck building. Stars and above are the rare collector shit.
>tfw ywnb as happy as this nidoking
>>56932747Surely someone will trade a full art misty for my full art brock.
>>56933095Feels so good to win the game with her.I just showed a Dugtrio player what’s up a few matches ago. Congrats
>>56933035It's literally 50% per coinflip. The odds by definition are halved every time.For you to stay asleep for 2 of your turns needs 3 Tails coinflips in a row, hence 12.5%.Including Wigglytuff into this is an irrelevant point. Yes, if you're using Wigglytuff every turn anyways, the coinflip from the end of your turn doesn't matter, but who really cares about that?
>>56933032I mean I'm using dual Electric / Water energies so I'm good to use better mons than Swanna, like Cloyster or Omastar that use just 1 Water + 2 colorless. Thing is I want to avoid mons that require more than 2 energies to hit as the main attacker is Jolt and tank Vaporeon. Honestly using 1 colorless energy shitters allow to divert all production to Eevees and in some matchups to Ditto even. The flipside is that if you don't find Eevolutions you're fucked. So the version with more solid mons like Helioptile and Frosmoth is generally safer, but I didn't test it much as having 4 types is funnier
>>56933104Surely someone will trade their full art Sabrina for my full art Koga
>>56933103I got this card just now, I love that art. Both Nido full arts are so cute
>>56933125Shame how bad Nidoqueen is, setup conditions need insane rng
>log in>do pulls>blind wonder pick>collect 4 hourglasses>collect tranny ticketsIt's nice being a stylish man. I don't even have to play the game anymore.
Who's a good partner for pidgeot?Rape ape is very fun, but with him you either win in three turns or get rolledPidgeot is very fun too, but I'm not sure who works with himI have two Pidgeot immersives, so I want to use them
>>56933141Aerodactyl.
Is there really nothing new happening until the 22nd? I thought that they would stuff our gullet with constant events since the game just came out.
>>56933116>For you to stay asleep for 2 of your turns needs 3 Tails coinflips in a row, hence 12.5%Except with something like wigglytuff ex, that isn’t true, assuming it doesn’t get the knockout outright. Outcomes (as I see them)>heads (turn 1 wake-up) - 50%>tails/heads (double sleep) - 25%>tails/tails (turn 2 wake-up) - 25%The catch is that mon like wiggly will resleep, so I think you have to coin flip both the tails/tails and tails/heads outcomes. >tails/tails/tails - 12.5%>tails/heads/tails - 12.5% Then you add those because both result in a sleep on the opponent’s turn. Pretty sure it’s 25%.
>make sweaty meta no fun allowed deck>matched with a little kid who clearly just threw together his favourite cards>feel bad for curbstomping him
>>56933150And that's completely irrelevant to the question at hand.There are scenarios where you don't want to keep Wiggly in front if your opponent remains asleep.
>>56933157You could at least try to make it seem like he has a chance anon
>>56933143Feels like I never see any Arcanine deck, is it actually good?
>>56933095I don't thank anyone who finishes the game with this dumb card
>>56933165Charizard but less risk and reward
>>56933104>>56933123Potentially yeah. They can't exactly restrict trades based on community perceived value, listed rarity is the next best thing, which means there will still be skewed trades where one ignorant child gets left with a full art Brock after trading away their rainbow Articuno.Unless, of course, you can't trade away cards you don't have 3 of.What if you need to have 3 cards, and 2 of every flair for that card in order to trade 1 away
>>56933143
in retrospect I really wish I had used my first pack opening on arcanine ex or egg ex. Marowak ex is without a doubt the worst of the bunch (even though in the beginning everyone thought it was arcanine that is bad)
>>56933159>dodging his mistake againlmaoI was never arguing the other point; many different anons in this thread. I was only pointing out an error I thought you made. And there are plenty of scenarios where you’re content to park your happy ass on a wigg / frosmoth for that 25%.
>>56932848I must be retarded then cause I can find where to create your own deck on this site
>>56933186>not believing in the boneheadThere's your problem, chief. Also, Egg is almost straight out a worse Bonehead. He needs two more to retreat, and, at best, does half of the damage that Marowak can do. The only thing Egg has over her is 20 more hp., which doesn't really matter since Marowak is already past the break point of every >Mewtwo striker.
>>56933139Nobody likes my showcases anymore. I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
>>56933206even if I believed in the bonehead, fighting decks in general just don't really have any standout cards.
>>56933196It took me a bit to find it too.https://my.limitlesstcg.com/builderYou gotta hover the icon and click on Pokemon Pocket. Then it'll take you to the pptcg builder. Otherwise, it always goes to the regular tcg builder. I just use another site because I hate blindingly bright white websites. This link will send you to the regular tcg builder. This website is retarded. Follow the steps above, or just google a pocket deck builder. I used some shitty site called exburst.
>>56933165Its stats are perfect for fighting pikachu ex decks. 120 damage enough to 1 shot pikachu and has enough hp that it can only be revenge killed by a zapdos ex getting lucky with its coin flips.
>>56933231>I don't believe in bonehead>fighting decks in general just don't really have any standout cardsI think I see your problem, anon. Also, have you tried Primeape? He falls around turn 5, but he hits like a truck until then. Well, it's not that he falls off so much as others catch up to him.
>>56933214I like all my friends everyday and got zero likes back today
Just came up with this rough deck idea (you need an IQ of at least 90 to come up with something like this)I don't have the cards though, can somebody try it out for me?Idea is to stall with hypno bench and articuno coin flips till your dragonite is ready to nuke.
Anyone else feel like you made a mistake choosing the card whenever you fail a wonder pick?I do and feel bad sometimes, even though I know it doesn't make sense, because it's random, so either method you choose should give the same chances.That is, unless it's rigged somehow? Probably not, maybe it's even predetermined just like packs.Anyways, do you have a "method" for choosing the card? Like going always for the first one, going for one that hasn't gotten the right card for a while, or just going for feel?
>>56933294the best thing you can do statistically speaking is to always pick the exact same position, otherwise you're adding another 20% roll
>>56933294I used to pick randomly but lately I've had more success consistently picking the middle card
>>56933294I try and pick packs with 2 cards I want, but generally just tap my phone screen without looking unless the two cards I want are next to each other, then I pick one of two original positions.
>>56933300Your pick doesn't matter.
>>56933282>Can someone hit themselves in the head with a hammer so I don't have to?I'm good, man.
>>56933308Hard to say. Because unlike with the pack carousel, if you close the game during wonder pick, it won't give you one of the 5 cards.
>>56933294see: >>56932902That's my strat.
>>56933294Just pick the same spot every time.
>>56933294always pick bottom row. bottom row has a 50% chance, top row only 33.3%
>>56930757Literally lost a close match to a 10hp left pokemon because Misty rolls are nearly impossible to land. But it was also my fault for forgetting 1 energy by accident too.
>>56933325Largest brain poster
>play against a jp bro>running Primeape>he's playing a Blaine deck>both of us have flaired pokeballs, prof researches, etc>both have most of our basics and stage 1s flaired out>he has FA Blaine>basic mats/sleevesMY MAN.
>>56933277Same
>>56933342why bring up his nationality???
>>56933350because I'm racist??? duh
>>56933282Everytime I run my dragons the battles just feel like I am using Jabberwock from Skyrim as my main weapon.
>>56933325Genius
>>56933214I made a binder of my favorites. People seem to like it. One day I went through around half of my ~25 people long friendlist and liked the displays that I liked. The next day my inbox was flooded. If you like them, most people will like you back, in my experience.
>>56933354what does nationality have to do with race
>>56933372I think it's a safe bet that I wasn't dueling a somalian. Go back.
>>56933379sure, but you pointed out he's japanese, not that he's asian. if it was racism you would've probably focused on asian and not Japanese????
They should make it so that Wonder Pick energy pips take 6 hours to regen, rather than 12.
>>56932881It annoys the hell out of me when I fetch a card only for them to pull Red Card on me.
>>56933405but the point of wp is to make you spend money on gold when there's a pick you just don't wanna miss and you're out of stam
>>56933399>racism isn't racism unless you're being vaguewat. Seriously, kid. You gotta be 18 to post here. Go back to your home site.
>>56933417Too much of a gamble for most people to spend money on
>>56933399You can hate the Japanese specifically and be ambivalent towards other asians.
>>56933420but then that's not racism
>>56933312The packet is sent when you click on the cards but realistically they did not actually code an actual shuffle. They just perform the 20% roll on the spot and because it's a unique pool of cards it's hard to know whether it's predetermined or calculated then and there, but one thing's for sure and that's picking a different card makes no difference as it makes no sense to code all the different combinations for something so inconsequential. A lot of these visual elements in the game are done more to make it easier for children (unfortunately a target audience) to communicate probability concepts to them.
>>56933417>gamble to gambleJust let the people have fun. You usually don't get anything anyway.
>>56933419But that's the point of gacha. Get impulsive folks to spend to get the things they want right away
>>56933424Then why don't you tell us what racism is.
>>56933419>Too much of a gamble for most people to spend money onthat's why the game gives you godpack wps when you're at 0
>>56933436>that's why the game gives you godpack wps when you're at 0Is this real? I've never seen a godpack but I've also never been at 0.
>>56933428>They just perform the 20% roll on the spotyea, most likely
>>56933439I got a god pack wp when I ran out of hourglasses. But I still had enough trans tickets to buy the glasses I needed. Don't spend your trans tickets on hourglasses until you get a wp.
>>56933439He's just memeing, but it'd be funny as shit if it was true. That would be the ultimate coomer gacha bait.
>>56933451>>56933439Genuinely NEVER underestimate the shit these games will try to get away with to extract money out of people's pockets. wps are intentionally set up in such a way that they don't have to disclose your chances of getting a good wp selection. The likelihood they're manipulated is extremely high.
>>56933436stop noticing, goym
>>56933475>wonder glasses can't be bought with gold>don't have to disclose chancesHuh. I never even thought of that. I want to say that that's a nutty conspiracy theory, but I can't ignore the little voice deep in my guy telling me not to trust companies. I just hope Pocket is more like a normal tcg with a slower power creep instead of the power-hill-climb that Masters was.
>>56933165Hard counters Pikachu EX but loses to Mewtwo. Very meta dependent deck
>Run Zard/Moltres>Get three flips out of Moltres>Roll 2 total heads>meanwhile opponent is building his deck, ready to obliterate me>concedeJFC I hate flipping.
>>56933504>wonder glasses can't be bought with goldYes they can.
>40+ Charizard packs>0 BlaineLove it
>>56933538Can they? I perused the store before posting to double check and didn't see anywhere to do it. If so, doesn't that mean that they have to disclose the odds of wonder pick?
>>56933546Same, only substitute blaine for erika and primeape.
>>56933550they are disclosing the odds of wonder picks. what they're NOT disclosing is the odds of getting good packs in your wonder pick selection. That's where the key lies
I haven't gotten a single EX card for like 15 Charizard packs. I don't see how this game will hold onto it's fanbase with these rates + how stingy it is with currency/pulls.
>>56933572So they're just saying that it's a flat 20%, but doing shit like not posting god packs? kekIf they've disclosed that it's a flat 20%, then all those anons saying that it's predetermined would be wrong, no? It would genuinely be up to chance/esp for what card you get.
>>56933572>they are disclosing the odds of wonder picks. what they're NOT disclosing is the odds of getting good packs in your wonder pick selection. That's where the key liesbecause then they'd have to admit that the location of the rare or desired card is not random and that the card you get is only picked when you tap on the card back.
>>56933583the card you get is rolled upon picking the a card, there's no real shuffle, but it's still a 20% chance.
>>56933581>I haven't gotten a single EX card for like 15 Charizard packs. I don't see how this game will hold onto it's fanbase with these rates + how stingy it is with currency/pulls.i'm saving my hourglasses for upcoming event but it's been 3+ days since I last got an EX card. Venusaur if anyone was wondering.still don't have any ivysaurs so I can't use it.
>>56933581Did you get any 3-Diamond instead? Only 2 out of 5 cards matter anyway since the other 3 are guaranteed 1-Diamond cards
Top right GODS....
>>56933581>I don't see how this game will hold onto it's fanbaseDude. It's pokemon. There will always be kids playing decks like >>56933023 to give you pick material and free wins. Kids will see the 2/3 free packs a day and that will be enough. You forget that this is also almost certainly their first digital gacha, so they don't know better.
Nice start to my day honestly
>>56933592Ah, I gotcha. That's pretty shitty, but I see how both statements can be true.
Only the FA Pinsir dude from several dozen threads ago liked my showcase today. Thanks guy, I appreciate it.
>>56933604>Nice start to my day honestlyDid you have any in game currency when you pulled that pack?
>>56933613Yep! Still got 100ish hourglass packs
>>56933587think you're misunderstanding me. for the actual wp itself, when you're in there and picking your card, the odds of getting each card is disclosed, it's 20%. and yes, there is no real shuffle, it's just a 20% chance for either, regardless of which card back you tap. but, the menu you select which pack to wonder pick from is also "up to chance", you understand? sometimes you'll have 5 packs there and not a single one with anything good to pick, other times there'll be several exes and so on. they're not disclosing the odds of getting good packs to show up there, and they don't have to, so that's where manipulation happens. now you might say this is a schizo theory, but when gachas can legally manipulate things, they WILL generally do it, and wps are a neat little loophole.
>>56933604Same.
>>56933623based fellow luckgod
>>569336046957-2239-7270-7612Hope you can wonder pick one of these off me bros
>>56933634Impossible because of the Mewtwo. Very nice pack, though. Those 2stars are among the better outcomes.
>>56933634couldn't you have godpacked a different pack...
>>56933634For the xth time you can't wonder pick 3 stars and crown rares
>>56933618oh i see you're talking about the overall access of picks, not individual cards. gotcha....still think they intentionally rig the pulls so you rarely, if ever, get the card you want. lol
>>56933653well, legally they can't, but ofc that doesn't mean it can't be true
>>56933643>>56933647>>56933650>can only wonder pick off shitty godpacks>have to hope that your friends pull a godpack, but not too good of a godpacksasuga, dena.
>>56933660>well, legally they can't, but ofc that doesn't mean it can't be truelawyer: "what really is the meaning of 1/5?"
>love the synergy of Greninja/Bruxish>refuse to play that ugly ass fishfeelsbadman
>>56933598I've gotten a 3 diamond like two time from said pulls.>>56933602They will get bored when the new packs come out and they have zero pulls to get anything.
>>56933650oh I had no idea. That's unfortunate!
>>56933693>They will get boredAnon, there's a reason why cigarette companies give free ciggies to kids 5 and under in India.
>>56933700India is a shithole, both literally and figuratively.
>>56933691play butterfree/exeggutor ex. the healing alone makes people rage quit.
>>56933720So are gachas, man.
>>56933592Is there already a source on this? As far as I know it still wasn't determined if there was a real shuffle or if the card you get is predetermined as soon as you tap on OK.
>>56932368No shit, the timer doesn't get access to them. Why do you think I brought up I was already at 5?
>>56933735I need to grind that stupid event for one more Butterfree promo. I want to play this very badly
>>56933747>he doesn't knowNo one tell him.
I can FINALLY stop pulling charizard packs now
>>56933748tell me anon, what am I missing?
>>56933753The event
>>56933748>>56933753>just lookedAh fuck. Guess I need to craft one then.
>>56933753
>>56933746I think those are manually boosted only. I can dump WHGs into them but yeah the timer doesn't keep going.
>>56933735Egg Ex is such a boring card, i got it today but I'll never use it
>>56933749You have Starmie, Charizard and Moltres? I think the immersive Charizard I pulled killed all my luck because ever since pulling him I've gotten shit as I said >>56933581. At least in the actual gacha games I play like ZZZ and Another Eidos I got what I wanted from them recently.
>>56933735>still at 0 metapodit's not fair
>>56933775>Egg Ex is such a boring card, i got it today but I'll never use itthere's nothing currently better for a butterfree deck though. you need a strong grass/colorless stage 1 evolution and nothing else really works.at least nothing else I have lmao.
>Kangaskhan
>>56933787think that's bad? I only got my first ralts yesterday. Only reason I have a Mewtwo EX is I somehow pulled it in a wonder trade....so much for a gard/mewtwo deck
>>56933739You can literally test this yourself. If you exit the app any time before picking the card, nothing happens.
>>56933784Shit I actually don’t have Moltres EX yet, only regular
How many languages for these cards are there?Could I end up with one in Turkish or Russian?
>>56933819
Blaine is my only full art trainer card
>>56933854I don't even have any Blaine. Or Giovanni.
Even though I've been lucky with Wonder Pick, I think it needs a buff because pulling all your good stuff from packs is so unlikely for most people but whales who can keep retrying. They should make it so that you can remove a card from the Wonder Pick for every X amount of resource you care to dump toward it (like Shinedust for instance). That way, you can potentially guarantee a card you really really want by saving up enough of a comfort zone dump, or hedge your bets better if there are multiple good cards and you want to eliminate the dead ones.
>>56933872or more likely, they could add another currency that lets you drop 1 of the lowest rarity in the pack. thereby upping your chance to get rare.
Man, this deck is fun.
wow a full art gloom, fantastic
>>56933872Or they could give a resource that lets you do a do-over at least, that you could keep retrying until you're all out of the resource or you're satisfied. The guaranteed approach probably wouldn't happen because of trading and pack point crafting being your guaranteed ways.
>>56933872>They should do a thing that benefits f2p and therefore make them less moneyLol, lmao even.
>You can open a pack!no shit why do you think I even opened the app
>>56933901It's a game for kids, man.
>>56933891If they wanted more money they should've made a better fleshed out game. It starts off with stupid people who have a lot of money and gradually works its way toward smart people who don't have as much money the more effort you put in.
>>56933886>240 damage>no pointswhaaa
>>56933141arbokPidgeot swaps out whoever is out front and arbok holds them in place so they can't get away.
>>56933901The UI for this game is horrendous, it's like they only thought about the 1st time experience instead of it being a recurring thing. SM as a gacha.
>>56933912Putting more effort is not how you make money efficiently, when this shit already sucks money in by the millions.The one thing that actually matters is psychology of gambling, and changing the game in a way that benefits the player like that doesn't help.
>>56933914He was abusing X speed and I Sabrina'd him once. He had 4 pokemon on the field when the game ended. Only the active pokemon could have survived a hit, but he had no energies, so he forfeit.
>>56931771Based hoarders keep winning
>>56933931>He was abusing X speed and I Sabrina'd him once. He had 4 pokemon on the field when the game ended. Only the active pokemon could have survived a hit, but he had no energies, so he forfeit.god, i had a game against the computer like that because I couldn't roll heads to save my life. only when i whittled all 4 mons down to the point where flipping didn't matter did I win.
>>56933938It was pvp. I can't prove it because I already closed ms paint, but it was certainly pvp. feelsbadman
>>56933930Have you not seen Pokemon Go? Or even those non-Pokemon mihoyo games that make a steady 60-100 M a month. Effort is definitely rewarded and makes both the players and the devs happy.
>>56933956Those Mihoyo games that take way, way more effort to make? Yeah.This shit is a cheap cashgrab, and not at all comparable.
>>56933964>Those Mihoyo games that take way, way more effort to makeThat's literally the very point I'm making. More effort undeniably correlates to higher money, and Pokemon definitely has the resources to see it through, with encouragement from the success of PoGo.
Flipped 8 Heads on Misty 1st Turn kek.
>>56933993More effort also means more money spent.Want to check how much money this shit has made so far?
>>56933819such a smug looking koffing
>>56933997Dang, any tips for pulling this off?Cool idea for a deck!!
>>56934000Uh yeah that's how it works. Are you trying to say the money it made now wouldn't turn into much more money? Like come on, it didn't stop PoGo.
>finally get a misty/articuno deck>lose 7 games in a row because I only roll tails and play against electric decks half of the timeI thought this deck was the meta?
>>56934017See, a quick search tells me that this zero effort shit already generated more than mihoyoslop did in just 17 days.Go figure, putting in 20 times the budget does not translate to 20 times the money.This is also DeNa we're talking about, a literal soulless gachaslop-making machine.
>>56934025meta just means "higher than 50% winrate" currently
>>56934032Its month one. Its a new shiny toy and onions-infused individuals can't resist spending and consooming. This revenue will fall off a fucking cliff in month two and beyond until there's a new set. And even then it won't match month one earnings.Mihoyo games are an investment. They shit so much money into the games and its marketing so they can get consistent high earnings every single month, and not just a one month pay day.
>>56934025And after I posted this I played another match where I rolled tails on misty two times and yes it was another electric deckI'm on a 9 tails streak now and going insane
>>56934025misty is a fickle bitch. you never want a deck to rely on her she should always just be a occasional boast to get your bench pokemon into the game faster but not to big a deal should she fizzle. Golducks and frosmoths are good since they don't take much to get going and can stall long enough to get your articuno online.
the Zebra fuck is underrated desu.feel like there are only a few cards that are truly worthless such as Swanna
>>56934032>See, a quick search tells me that this zero effort shit already generated more than mihoyoslop did in just 17 days.Lol because launch makes a big entrance because of blind expectations. Masters made 26 M in its first week and the norm turned into 1-2 M a month. Meanwhile the top games still make 60+ M a month.>>56934046This so much. It's no joke.
>>56934046Correct. And a fuckload more budget put into it wouldn't actually improve that drastically.To DeNa, it's absolutely not worth the effort to do more than this, and they would know. Why spend resources on making one good game when you can pump a dozen shitty ones
>>56934047Get over it, or get better at the game.
The gacha niggers really need to understand, this is a pokemon tcg game, the only gacha stuff is for collectorfags and casuals, as it is in master duel or duel links you're supposed to roll on the decks you want to play. I'm f2p and I've got 2 meta decks, 3 off meta brews, and with greninja coming out as a promo I have a bunch more planned brews. This game is generous as fuck, 2 dailies, a crafting system, wonder picks, and you can make a ton of decks if you're smart and use your shit wisely
>>56934058Funny because they said in one of their earnings report for Masters that they learned lessons from the sloppy launch of Masters to better prepare them for future ventures.
>>56934046Just like with every modern gacha and tcg, this game will have peaks and valleys with every new set. Two weeks after Mihoyo releases a big patch, the game starts to hemorrhage players only to be revived in a couple of months. And those are new ips. This is a normie friendly pokemon card collector. There will be shitloads of players that stick around. The pokemon name brings both 5 year olds and wheezing 30 year olds looking to grab a bit of nostalgia. It's not rocket science, but starting with genwun brought in a massive boon to their wallets. I love the idea of collecting cards, personally, but I'm not interested in the physical tcg because I don't like the player base. This game has short enough games and digital collection, which makes it worth my time on the investment/enjoyment ratio.
>>56934073Woah, corporate speak.
>>56934061How to get better at coin flip?
>>56934091>he doesn't know
>>56934091find a leprechaun and raid his garden.
>>56933912This is just the initial marketing hype. Once it dies down a little and the whales are hooked (they calculate stuff like retention and average spend) they can actually tweak the game to be usable. There's still lots of basic QoL shit they simply didn't add and it's not like this is their first rodeo. They had the same problem with Masters, their other Pokemon game. It's one big joke to them. The D in DeNA stands for dog shit.
>>56934075>but I'm not interested in the physical tcg because I don't like the player base.ahhh...the smell...
>>56934025The deck isn't meta for exactly the reason you're making this post, misty tails is just a thing. People complain all the time though because high roll misty still happens like 6% of the time and will tilt your opponent into oblivion
>>56934100>There's still lots of basic QoL shit they simply didn't add and it's not like this is their first rodeo.This is very intentional too. The interface is fucking terrible, and this way they have plenty of things to "fix" before doing anything to the parts that affect revenue.
Masters was so shit they had to rebrand to Masters EXWould be so stupid if they do the same with this game
>>56934110I'm sure they have their Japanese gacha playbook they've perfected to hook whales to the milking machine. If I had to guess it's better to attract some tier of "super fan" that's willing to wade through shit and still spend X amount of JPY. So then they can "fix" the game and add back the QoL so they can show>better retention>revenue growth since launch>user base growth (this is the hardest one since most game users in general leave after a while so they only see growth around anniversary or crossover events)
is wiggly ex really that bad?sleep seems good and its the only EX I have 2 of
>>56934134Wait for the sleeping jiggly from the next event and it should be better
>>56934134you're relying on flips to keep the opp asleepfail a flip and you'll get wiped out
>get to 5 stamina>WP only has trash and repeats of what I have already
>>56934110>This is very intentional too.You're schizophrenic. They didn't purposefully hit that sweet spot of "shitty enough that we have reason to pull people back with qol updates" and "just barely good enough that people won't complain." They just did the bare minimum to make it work and focused on pumping out the card designs and interactions. They're a company. They saved money. They're only ever going to implement qol updates if it's convenient or if nintendo starts complaining about how shit the game looks.
>>56934134Can a pokemon be asleep and poisoned at the same time? If so, Weezing/Wiggly would be insane.
>>56934134dce when
>>56934151>They didn't purposefully hit that sweet spot of "shitty enough that we have reason to pull people back with qol updates" and "just barely good enough that people won't complain."No, they definitely hit that by pure accident.You're naive.
>>56934154poison and burn are the only two statuses that can stack with sleep/paralysis/confusionActually, no card currently causes confusion does it?
>>56934149you will pull dupes for a third of a card's flair (you need one for each copy in the deck) and you will like it
>>56934161>burnI don't think I've seen any cards with burn either.
>>56934151>They're a company. They saved money. They're only ever going to implement qol updates if it's convenient or if nintendo starts complaining about how shit the game looks.You don't know what you're talking about. They did this with another pokemon game of theirs already. People complained and started leaving after the content dried and they responded with free gems and better events for a while. Nintendo takes gacha feedback somewhat seriously because it could harm pokemon's brand image, most of all from a gambling simulator no less.
>>56934161Does burn do anything differently than poison?
>>56934180>You don't know what you're talking about.Sure I do. I played Masters for over 2 years. It's still on my phone, actually. Everything you just said fits my rrat.>dena does the bare minimum to get the game out with no glaring bugs>not great, but passable to whales>months in, small problems really irk the playerbase>nintendo cracks the whip>dena addresses qolAt least this game isn't as much of a gambling simulator as Masters was. Shit drops are still useful, ie Ralts. In Masters, you would do a 10 pull and get 9 three star Surges and one shitty four star.
>>56934134it's not bad, hit's hard and if whatever it hits lives there's a good chance it can't hit back next turn. Real problem is it takes a lot of energy to get going and outside of misty and to a lesser extent Brock and surge there isn't really a way to cheat up energy quicker in the game right now so you kind of need to pair it with strong low energy mons like beedrill, executor, or kangaskhan so you can build it up on the bench so it can finish off what's left when you finally get it going. As such it struggles against fast decks like Pikachu EX and starmie EX since they can get going by there second turn and just knock down your walls before you can get set up.
>>56933141Starmie ex, Ninetales, Egg, Arbok.
>>56934134It’s alright. New promo jiggly might improve things a bit, but three energy for 80 damage isn’t the best. You do have a 50% of the opponent entering their turn with the sleep condition, as well as a 25% that they are asleep for two of their turns (assuming they cannot evolve and are not knocked out). I think it’s going to need a solid partner / some sort of colorless support to become really good.
>>56934134It's good for dark and metal decks because they don't have any ex pokemon of their own. It's also good for multicolored decks for obvious reasons. It's also good in grass decks, because grass doesn't really have a good high damage ex pokemon like arcanine, starmie, marowak etc., and this is the next best thing.
>>56934169>>56934185I don't know shit about burn and how it differs, just that it exists.Although I think in the tcg proper it hasn't shown up in years or so?I only know base-fossil format.
>>56934199NTA but that's incredibly glossing over how bad it was, they completely revamped much of the system. The game launched with a focus on co-op and completely backtracked on that. The game launched with certain kinds of resources and completely abandoned them. The game changed so drastically that they rebranded their very name.
>>56934185As of Sun & Moon, Pokémon that are Burned have damage counters placed on them between turns - two by default, though certain effects may increase the amount placed. After the counters are placed, a coin is flipped; if the result is heads, the Pokémon is cured, while it remains Burned on tails.Prior to Sun & Moon, once a Pokémon is Burned, a Burn marker is placed on it and the player must flip a coin in between turns. If the coin lands on tails, two damage counters are placed on the Pokémon. Under some conditions, the burn's damage may be increased by the effect of an attack, an Ability, or a Stadium card (e.g., Volcarona's Scorching Scales Ability causes the afflicted Pokémon to suffer 40 damage). If the coin landed on heads, the Pokémon does not receive any damage but remains Burned.
theres nothing to do now aaaaaaaaaaa
>>56934199>hasn't updated since train broslol I think that's when I dropped it as well. It's still on maintenance mode so I'm hoping they focus on really polishing the TCG one at least for its first year.Although if we really get into the nitty gritty I think Masters had waaaaay better rates than this game's. I think it was 3% for a banner (1.5% for the "premium" ones), and they basically work out of the box (I pulled Red/Articuno before uninstalling and it's still S tier apparently). That's the equivalent of pulling an entire Mewtwo deck. And you really need 2 Mewtwos so it's multiplying sub 1% rates. I don't see myself playing much longer to be honest. This game is a waste of time in its current state. Might wait to see how they handle future packs because I expect a lot of redundancy which might be very bad.
Pokemon should have partnered with an American company again for this game. Yeah there would be unnecessary cosmetic crap here and there but you'd actually get a substantive game that'd make more money for them.
>>56934263>Pokemon should have partnered with an American company again for this game.Because Niantic has done soooooo well with Pogo.
>>56934272Yes that's literally what I'm referencing.
>>56934279>niantic takes over the game>first thing they do is turn misty and sabrina into androgynous fat americans
>>56934279>Yes that's literally what I'm referencing.I was being sarcastic. Were you?...Because currently, PoGo is a clusterfuck.Sure, morons are still dumping millions into the game but it's a gigantic mess right now.Just ask /pgg/
Well fuck, I don't got any of the cards to build around him.
>>56934292Good lord dude it's as if you didn't actually read the post I made if you're dragging this out over something I already addressed.
>>56934250I thought they still update it regularly? I keep seeing jap trailers for stuff from some of the artists I follow on twitter.>Although if we really get into the nitty gritty I think Masters had waaaaay better rates than this game's.Comparing gacha games on purely rates is always a fools errand. It's so contextual to everything in how the game works.
>>56934297gratz
>>56934297You don't need much for Seaking
>autistic gacha niggers absolutely filtered by a tcgClassic
>>56934296Your sarcasm was hollow because the complaints you mean are 1st world problems compared to how empty this game is, which would beg to have PoGo's problems. It's like how Duel Links is nonstop complaining about how Konami can't balance for shit and just want to squeeze money but the game is actually a fully realized game 100x better than this sorry excuse for a recreational activity.
>>56934326>you mean are 1st world problems compared to how empty this game isROTFLMAO FIRST WORLD PROBLEMS!?!?!fuck right off with that absolute bullshit.
>>56934317Rates are about normal for a gacha, but wonder picks mean you instantly get a 20% rate up banner, as long as you're not spam chasing alt arts you should get most of the meta cards you want eventually
>>56933214>>56933277I get all my likes from battles and have too many friends to go liking all of their stuff. I'll only like their showcases if it has low amount of likes.
>>56934317>It's so contextual to everything in how the game works.The only context here is that TCG has PVP so the rates are more valuable. I get that, but I also don't care much for PVP so the comparison is apples to apples to me (and I suspect a large part of the user base).>I thought they still update it regularly?They probably do. I just check the reddit every once in a while and I approximate their update frequency through power creep. It's been stagnant for over a year now so that's not a good indicator (for DeNA that is).
>>56934335Over the top hollow incredulity, what are you, a dramatic high school girl?
Haven't pulled anything good in days. They turned down my odds, they want me to be a paypiggy.
>>56934363just wait, we apparently got an event coming...soon(?)then you'll get new content and new pulls.
flair is STUPID and I am tired of pretending otherwise
>alright as long as I don't get two double tails in a row I winGuess what happened.
>>56934400live by the coin, die by the coin
>>56934343>The only context here is that TCG has PVP so the rates are more valuable. I get that, but I also don't care much for PVP so the comparison is apples to apples to me (and I suspect a large part of the user base).I mean in general, but just looking at Masters real quick, you need 5 copies of a character to max them out.I never played the game so I don't know how much that truly matters, but let's say that for the top-end content you do need them at that level. So now you need 5 copies of a character vs. 2 copies of a card.My point here isn't to try to make an objective comparison between the two, just to explain what I mean by "context".Another example is something like FEH, which relies on shitting out new characters constantly, and you need them because of powercreep and inheriting their skills, I believe. (At least it was like this at some point, never played that either)
>>56934400The reason I can no longer play Kanga. IDC how good she is, 30 average damage is barely serviceable and anything less than that is usually game over.
>>56934397Flair in a game based on trading is absolutely dumb I agree, should have instead been able to bulk convert common cards into pack points or something since it's not like most people will reach a high rarity conversion off daily pulls
>>56933368I like the display of new friends but you don't have to go one by one, they show up in Community Showcase, much faster.
>>56934065>gacha niggers really need to understand, this is a pokemon tcg game, the only gacha stuff is for collectorfags and casuals, as it is in master duel or duel links you're supposed to roll on the decks you want to play. I'm f2p and I've got 2 meta decks, 3 off meta brews, and with greninja coming out as a promo I have a bunch more planned brews. This game is generous as fuck, 2 dailies, a crafting system, wonder picks, and you can make a ton of decks if you're smart and use your shit wiselyno. you are a whale.
>>56934400>have this but Exeggutor EXI refuse to accept that my real life luck is so bad that I flip tails 80% of the time naturally.I'm not that much of an unlucky failure in life, am I? It's the game, right? They're rigging the flips against me, right? *sobs*
Am I wrong for deleting friends who turn out to play in non-English? I don't want to get wonder picks of italian cards or chinese cards or things like that
>>56934415It's not even cool stuff like animated cards since that's there own thing.If you want to show off your favorite deck then you go for the FAs and what not.not the generic sparkles.
>>56934422I literally did this yesterday morning. Deleted my Japanese friends since I want to keep all my cards in English.
>>56934422>I don't want to get wonder picks of italian cards or chinese cards or things like thatI got a wonder pick of a japanese card but I didn't seen it in my collection when I looked at the card. Don't they change to your native language?
>>56934420at least eggs will always do something
>>56934409If your deck is relying on kanga to pump dmg you're already building your deck wrong, she's like weezing as a tank that can get some dmg in, and stalls for you to build up your other mon
>>56933143What happened to Starmie?
>>56934429Yes and no. If you only have 1 copy of the card you will see it as it is, but ingame it becomes English for you.If you have multiple versions of it it'll show you the version in your language in the collection.
>>56934403Now that you mention it I completely forget about Masters' dupe system kekI remember 3/5 basically gets you the "complete" package but to me it just felt better to have the full character to interact with vs just another card. Like I said to me the value proposition vs time sink and content is just non existent at the moment. If new packs have overlapping units then it becomes like a much shittier Masters because now you're basically just pulling for banner card or stardust.FEH afaik has the waifu thing down. I tried playing it once and pulled the purple haired one's bride costume banner and laughed then uninstalled that too. Gachas are pretty fun until they're not lol
>>56933604Meanwhile I got 5 useless mon I already had
>>56934443Oooh. Eww. I don't want foreign cards I can't read in my decks.
>>56934438She's still basically the highest-started basic. If you need a basic to pump damage your options are pretty much her, some 2-energy meme, or Farfetch'd.
>>56934422I do the exact oppositeI love non-english cards and it makes my WPs more exotic than my normal pulls
>>56934417Cope and seethe, just get gud
>second starmie ex i get in top middleTOP MIDDLE GAANG
>>56934461I guess one day I could see myself trying to collect say 1 specific pokemon I love in every language that exists but other than that I'd rather not have a mix of all kinds of languages in my dex
>>56930738when's new thread? what do you guys think of trying some tournaments? we could do small meta tournaments or even autistic rules like no blaine, or no exs, or only fighting types allowed, etc. I think we are all getting to the point that we have numerous decks now and it could be fun.
>>56934422>>56934429You have to go looking for it in your collection to see the other languages. Otherwise, it'll be in your native language like if you use it in a deck.>>56934455You gotta re-read that guy's message.
>>56934462>>56934417Can confirm, if you consider 'zard dek. meta then i have 3 top tier decks.I bet you don't even spin the packs or change the language from time to time.
>>56934481>when's new thread?Thread creators usually wait until this is the second to last thread to be deleted in the catalog before making a new one.then they'll just post the forwarding link with no actual text letting us know it's the new thread.
That moment when you start opening charizard packs and get Charizard's immersive ex before charmander, charmeleon, charizard or regular charizard ex
Holy based
>>56934488Unless you only have one copy of that card, then it shows it to you as it is
>>56934497Beautiful. I'm jelly. Just have one Slowpoke full art.
>>56934481I'd do a /vp/ tourney sometime, with autism rules too or vpnx stuff.Not sure how we would organize it though.bo3 or bust
I think I would rather suck a cock than go against another Japanese-going-first-Articuno-summoning-Misty-flipper. Literally tier zero meta, DeNA please patch. Posting this in a page ten thread to hide the shame of saying I'd suck cock
>>56934497I just realized that the og Slowpoke card art doesn't have the white bit at the end of its tail
>>56934497>4 full arts of the same cardI have 3 full art nidokings and I dislike it.
>>56934519>I just realized that the og Slowpoke card art doesn't have the white bit at the end of its taillooks like its based on early deck art, that's probably why.>tfw no yellow cheek pikachu cards
MAROWAK EX FUCKING SUCKS
>>56934497I hope slowking is a beast so I can use my alt art slowpoke in a decent deck
What is the strongest deck currently, that no one can possibly complain about being cheap/op/etc?
>>56933819congrats
>>56934534>>56934536the duality of man
>>56934546I NEVER GET EVEN A SINGLE HEADSTOTAL COIN DEATHNO STRATEGYI HATE YOU FAGGOTS THAT PLAY THESE NO SKILL DECKS
>>56934544mewtwo, takes set up, no coin flipping nonsense and wins are deserved if your opp can't aggro it
>>56934555>>56934555>>56934555
>>56934551Sounds like a skill issue
>>56934544>What is the strongest deck currently, that no one can possibly complain about being cheap/op/etc?pikachu/zapdosmewtwo/gardevoircharizard/moltres are the main decks right now.
>>56934568WOW YOU GOT FAVORABLE RNGSUCH SKILLYOU PIECE OF SHIT
>>56934492see?>>56934561
>>56934532Yeah, it just bugs me because the FA one doesn't follow that. Autism.
>>56934551I get so much head my hips move on their own
>>56934340Isn't there a pretty low limit for likes from battles?
>>56934403Non-free characters are most efficient at 3/5 (5/5 is just a "win more" or situational stuff) and there are even a few that don't need more than 1/5. Over time you also get free items that raise a character's move level without needing extra copies.
>>56934025Pikachu being just as fast as Starmie is keeping it in check.
