Previous: >>56937056>Friend ID Surveyhttps://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScx82fFuZO5JSneihERecx5UKEJv42EGQKYZM3flPh_ERIa-A/viewform?usp=sf_link>Friend ID Sheethttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DGhOfaMX6D_YUR-P39_OJdVmAl0uacohIRstE9oN9SQ/edit?usp=sharing>Tournament results/decklistshttps://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournaments/completed?game=POCKET&format=all&platform=all&type=online&time=4weeks>Upcoming events/datamines/schedule:https://pocket.codex.gg/news/schedule//vp/ battle passwords to battle with other anons (might want to say in thread which one you wanna battle under so others can join you)>/vp/ anything:vp>/vp/‘s own meta (no coin flips of any kind, no ex, no Dragonite):vpnx>meta decks or high level play:vpmeta
>>56940120I want to fuck Misty so
>>56940120Lmao.
>>56940116Hips? On this bitch?
I let the premium pass expire and now I haven't pulled anything over 2-diamonds in 5 days. They fucked me.
Soulless
>>56940141Yeah she's a ginger what about it
>>56940120>4 seconds of differenceThis one already have more posts so, let's use it.
I finally got my first Erika... as my 614th card.
TOTAL WEEZER SUPREMACY
Anyone playing in those midweek offmeta tournaments on Limitless? I entered the one in Singleton format (1 copy of each card only) and I feel like it’ll be dominated by Marowak/Fighting aggro and Blastoise hiding behind fatmons. Unfortunately those guys are the only EX I’m missing so I’ve been racking my brain trying to come up with something. Currently using a Grass deck but I dunno if I’m really feeling it since it just doesn’t play super decisively
>>56940177donde esta la Bibliotheca
here's a question for everyone, what do you guys think the next set of packs will be?Me, I'm going to say the focus is going to remain on Kanto pokemon but they'll introduce their Alolan forms as well. This is based of nothing and mostly down as I think it would be neat and is an answer besides saying the next packs will focus on Johto pokemon
>>56940180I need to work on my spicish, nigga. Best way to do that for me personally is to just change all my apps and annie mays to it.
The reward for online matches is too little, there's almost no incentive to play online, at least one pack hourglass would be nice.
>>56940182Some new basic ex cards with slightly more health and damage based on energy amount / coin flipsNew waifu cards that give energy for each tails you flip. Imposter oak, but instead of being a red card clone you opp discards the top two cards of their deck.
>>56940116bkub my beloved
>>56940200the reward is playing the game and winningthe game is FREElet me guess, you need more?
>>56940207>t. Dena employee
Koga decks are fucking gay
>>56940213no one is forcing you to login
>>56940215>t. coin rng addictyou lost
>>56940216Let me tell you something, that's not how you're supposed to treat your playerbase, so don't come crying when your game is dead.
>threads of this game give me a huge desire to fuck MistyHow do I make it stop?
>>56940230what's the reward for playing IRL tcg?
>>56940186yea ur doing it right
>>56940234If you're not playing money matches, you're playing it wrong.
>>56940233You can visit ireland or scotlandfind a nice redhead, fuck around, fall in love, get her pregnant, decide to stay, start a family, grow old, have grandchildren, die together
>enemy has 4 electrics in play, pika with 1 energy on the bench>I only have a 40 hp mankey on my side>he evolves his lizard that is in play and ends the turn>pretend like I'm desperate and sabrina his lizard before evolving my mankey to primeape>he falls for it and brings out pika>evolve my mankey, one shot it and winglorious. mind games are always fun.
>>56940241what's stopping you from doing this in pocket
>>56940234>moving the goalpostsTry harder Mr. Employee, you'll surely get that promotion one day.
>>56940254You're still playing the game, it's on your phone, and you're addicted to the pack opening dopamine rush
>>569402473D redheads are gross. The 2D ones are strees ahead of the 3d - Ariel, Misty, Sam from totally spies, Jessica Rabbit, MJ Watson the list goes on and on.
>>56940262anime isn't realbest you can do is make your girl cosplay
>opponent starts with Meowth, Ralts and Mewtwo on bench>start Mankey>turn 2, Gio+energy= dead Meowth>switches in Ralts>put down a second Meowth, evolve Primeape>Primeape swings for 100, kills Kirlia>switches in Mewtwo, revenge kills Primeape>second Primeape hits for 40>Mewtwo hits back for 70>Gio+Angry Monkey revenge kill for 110feelsgoodman
>>569402623D can be very gross, but redheads are divine. It's hard to find an ugly one.
This card just got leaked for the next expansion, thoughts? It looks powerful but it takes a lot of setup and you autolose when it’s KO’d so idk…
>>56940279>Permanent Blaine for all PokemonInsane.
Interesting tidbit: if you attack a cubone that growled with a promo mankey’s tackle the growl negates the blowback damage.
>>56940288its also lets you take one more prize card/point as long as it has more some extra energy on it
>>56940288more like a permanent Giovanni when you consider the hp bloat of live tcg
>>56940274Come to Appalachia, you'll be surprised
I didn't get any Lapras.
>>56940273What mons are you running with monkey trouble?I tried Marowak Ex with it and I swear its gotta be one of the worst decks I ever played,
>>56940304I lived in a small town in East Tennesee for a month. I did a few drives into S. Carolina, but I don't remember meeting any red heads. Are they hideous?
Is it cost effective to craft trainers or better just wait for them opening packs?
I feel aimless, bored, disappointedI wish this game went to more competent developers
>>56940304https://youtube.com/shorts/k_wTrpgxL4k
>>56940305I got one
>>56940317Spending resources to play the game the way you want to is never a mistake
>>56940317It depends if you really need it, I had to buy a Sabrina and it was worth it, that card is evil.
>>56940312I've only been using this version for a few battles, but it's been good to me so far. I really wasn't convinced on Sandslash, but it is really fast and more reliable than Monkey since he doesn't need to take damage. Primeape tends to get 1-shot much more often than the hedgehog because of their hp differences/mechanics, and is, therefore, much more reliable. It's very fast. If you get to turn 7, you're probably better off forfeiting.
Where’s the content?
>>56940317I crafted my first two Sabrinas. I have about 850 cards and have still only opened 1 other Sabrina. I'm still missing a Gio and considering crafting it for a playset. It's 100% worth it. As anon said, >>56940326.
>>56940320incredible, how many redneck girls like this?
>>56940338sorry bro it's very very cost and time consuming to create content for a card game.
>>56940305works on my phone
>>56940319>>56940338If you don't like it make your own gameliterally no excuse with how easy engines are today AND you have perfectly serviceable AI tools with great sugimori models
>>56940301We're pretending this card is coming as is, so no.
>>56940363that's a live tcg card though? it's not coming to pocket.
>>56940319Yeah, I learned my lesson to not expect anything good from DeNA after playing two of their games, one being Masters EX which I dropped after having nothing but the exact same content for months, and the other being Touhou Danmaku Kagura which was EoS'd because those goddamn jews weren't getting enough money from it.At least Pocket is mindless enough that I only need to open it twice per day for a minute for my daily packs, but if that's all they can give me, then this trash can barely qualify as a game.
>>56940354rpgmaker maybe. the good ones like unreal or unity don’t look very easy
>>56940365Try to follow the very short conversation to the start.
Why did they go with Prof Oak instead of Bill?
>>56940383modern day kids probably don't know who bill is.
>>56940383No one knows who that is.
>>56940383Bill hasn’t been relevant in decades. In the actual tcg the current professor is always on the art of the wheel supporter
>>56940383Bill is a loser
>>56940116Very standard and fair setup for turn 4.
>>56940390Yeah but the card in ptcgp isn't a wheel effect
>>56940376It's really not that difficult, just follow tutorials until you can focus on content. If slop like card shop simulator exists you have no excuse.
>>56940383Who?
>>56940402BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL
>>56940392I hate you
>>56940392tcg pocket is not supposed to be fair
Th-thanks
>>56940412That Mewtwo looks so gay and weak. He should never be shown with a gaping open mouth.
My luck with wonderpick EX cards is insane.
When next event?
>>56940396>b-b-but it’s not the exact same!!!Autism. The professor in tcg draws you cards. The professor in pocket- guess what?- draws you cards, faggot
What's the point of friends? I just deleted most of mine because not one liked back my display so fuck em
>>56940434Based. Friends are only useful if they like my showcase every day. I’m taking data and preparing to do a huge purge of my friends list
Would you Wailord for this?
>>56940434Guess I'll remove mine too, at least the ones zones who don't like my stuff back, which is all of them.
Thanks Obama
POT OF GREED
>>56940442>140>4 cost attack, need to discardWaste of 2 slots
>>56940448Is
>>56940448I can't read nip. What does it do?
>>56940458
>>56940386>>56940388He's from KANTOOOOO just like Oak, of course kids know him.
>>56940458It's professor oak.Draw 2 cards from your deck.You can only play 1 supporter during your turn.
>>56940465Though the card title is now like Greedy Professor Oak.
today is good
>>56940419Yeah it looks silly, idek why Mewtwo would have such a face at that moment
>Cubone used Growl!>promo Mankey can't hit itself!
>>56940182they'll rip off the early life of real tcg and introduce "dark"/"team rocket" versions of pokemon, with a bunch of trainers that support specifically those monsthat and supporters based on the kanto elite four, maybe with a champion card if they feel like itboth predictions are based on nothing but me thinking "oh that would he cool, I guess"
>>56940484It's jumping out of a glass window. Shit probably hurts.
Fug I love turn 1 wins
When the next set releases, do you think the current boosters will be unopenable? I feel like I have to try my best to collect shit asap. I've never played any f2p games like this before.
When I build partial decks and the game says "This deck cannot be used because" one of the conditions it lists that can disqualify a deck is "Built using owned cards only". I haven't seen a way to slot in wish-list cards. If that's possible to do, how is it done?
>>56940491What, is the glass Dark type? kek
>>56940446I'm not gonna bother with double full arts or double exes wonder picks anymore
>>56940498The current boosters will definitely be available because trading isn't until January
>>56940491Mewtwo is a stoic. He shows no pain and doesn't make a jakface with his arm outstretched. It's gay.
>>56940506Loser mindset.
I miss the old chad Mewtwo
>>56940498>When the next set releases, do you think the current boosters will be unopenable?Nah. The menu looks like you'll choose what set to open. Eventually the menu will be populated with multiple sets to pull from....Which I assume will really suck for someone starting out that much later and trying to build a strong deck.
>>56940429>When next event?Late next week.
>>56940513
>>56940517Likely won't be as big of an issue as it might seem. The newest set will likely always have the best and strongest shit, because that's how you get the piggies to squeal.There's probably exceptions, like Sabrina. Always a relevant effect, so unless they just print a version that lets you pick the Pokemon you grab in, it's never going out of style.
>>56940419I haven't watched the movie in a million years but shouldn't Mewtwo be wearing the armor? At least they should've shown him still wearing a half-torned armor as he fled the lab.>>56940498>>56940517It will probably be like Duel Links and the booster sets will always be available forever, DL only had like 2 sets when it came out and now it has like five million of them since they're always present. Also forcing people to use the pity system on old cards would be asinine.
>>56940529Nah you're definitely gonna need older cards as well to build decent decks with the newer cards
>>56940491if you actually get that card is shows a short animation showing that it's the moment mewtwo escaped his confinement and is tasting freedom for the first time.personally I think it would have been better if they would have showed him using his powers to rip his prison in half instead of jumping to the part where he escapes out a window but them the brakes.
Lucky bastard
the realization struck me just now that the point of wonderpick is to make you think others are having much better rolls than you are, which increases your FOMO and convinces you to roll more often
>>56940554I never get crazy wonder pick options like this, well I did get a double Articuno ex pick once like 10 days ago, but still.
>>56940554Post your pick results
>>56940498I feel they'll probably keep around 3 sets of boosters going at once before they start cycling them out and I won't be surprised if they bring cards from old sets back in new sets so they can be lazy or just bring back old booster sets occasionally as an easy event they don't have to put much effort into.
>>56940539>It will probably be like Duel Links and the booster sets will always be available foreverDeNA doesn't seem that niceDL was originally going to remove sets as their plan but backtracked after player reaction to that news
>>56940539>Also forcing people to use the pity system on old cards would be asinine.The pack points are expansion-specific. So you're gonna have to open the previous expansion if you want previous expansion cards, no matter what. It would almost be better if they would be forced to use the pity system. They could open the new expansion and then use pack points to buy key cards like Sabrina.
>>56940560Heatmor... It was sandwiched between the two Zapdos too.
>>56940563>I won't be surprised if they bring cards from old sets back in new sets so they can be lazyThis is what I expect.
>>56940506Wonder picks with cover cards barely count. Pikachu, Charizard, and Mewtwo are all easier to pull than most uncommon, because all the higher-rarity versions increase your chances so much.
>>56940573Sorry to hear
>pull a 3rd WigglytuffPlease, just give me the cards I need instead. I don't understand how or why I keep getting the same cards over and over and over again when I'm still missing commons, uncommons, and rares.
>turn 10>still no oaks, no pokeballs, no marowak, quite literally nothingimpressive how fucking garbage this game can be
>>56940565>DL was originally going to remove sets as their plan but backtracked after player reaction to that newsI hope this game could be driven like that but because of rotten cock-gargling losers like the local shill we'll probably get nothing accomplished.
>S Tier (Proven and reliable)Top Right, Bottom Right>B Tier (occasional spawn)Top Left>C Tier (rogue pick)Center >Z Tier (guaranteed losing pick)Bottom Left
>>56940383They didn't. Professor's Research is a real TCG card that comes in many flavors. Oak, Willow, Magnolia, Juniper, Rowan, Sada, and Turo all currently have versions, and there were equivalent cards in older sets for Sycamore, Birch, and Kukui.
>>56940597To be fair it depends on the community, despite being composed of dopamine-seeking addicts, gacha communities are pretty good at taking a stand against developer bullshit. Half the reason that Masters made it to 5 years is that the community stood their ground (even on normie sites like reddit and twitter) and revolted like bolsheviks any time DeNA tried to pull some tomfoolery, or had the game in a bad state
>>56940599I see, I haven't played since the WotC days so I didn't know
>>56940558>the realization struck me just now that the point of wonderpick is to make you think others are having much better rolls than you are, which increases your FOMO and convinces you to roll more oftenI think I've gotten a whopping one GOAT pull on wonder trade. Mewtwo Ex. Every other time I've missed what I was aiming for.It's honestly discouraging because it makes me want to wonder pull less since I know I'll miss out.
>>56940563>I feel they'll probably keep around 3 sets of boosters going at once before they start cycling them out and I won't be surprised if they bring cards from old sets back in new sets so they can be lazy or just bring back old booster sets occasionally as an easy event they don't have to put much effort into.if it's anything like the TCG, they'll just ban old sets from official play. they did that in the TCG when the Team Rocket set came out and that's when I quit the game.
>>56940624You can compare Yugioh with Magic and see why set rotation exists.
>>56940598I can't argue with this, picked bottom left and got Eevee while top right had Pika Ex..
>>56940611Well that's the other thing, it depends on who's left. I keep seeing this one guy saying to quit the game, but if everyone but the absolute lapdog loyalists quit then the devs wouldn't get the memo to change things. It's similar with Masters. People kept leaving over the years to the point that most of the ones left are the ride or die, and for 5th Anni they dropped some egregious new kind of banner that expects a higher pity for literal rehashes of previous summons, followed not long ago by another egregious system that upped the boundary for how many 'copies' of a character unit you can have from 5 to 10. That's a 1-2 punch that upset a lot of people and made even more people quit. Even one of the producers for Masters stopped contributing to the dev letter at the time because he likely didn't want to be a part of that abhorrent overreach.
>>56940593you would think that you'd brick less with 20 card decks but nope its still the same fucking totally not rigged shit
>>56940636>You can compare Yugioh with Magic and see why set rotation exists.only reason is so they can get people buying new cards and eliminate old, working decks.
It's over...
>>56940589Kind of bullshit, that there is no pity system like in any other gacha.
>>56940660YGO does the same with their ban list
>>56940653>you would think that you'd brick less with 20 card decks but nope its still the same fucking totally not rigged shitit's amazing how often all the cards you need are buried at the bottom of the deck no matter what....and how often you flip tails.
>>56940563>>56940624I'll laugh like a stupid bitch if/when that happens just because of all the retards that spent $200 on this shit game only to have their cards banned in less than a month.
>>56940671I mean, the pack points are the pity system, but it's retardedly expensive. It feels even worse that it's retardedly expensive because I have a bunch of EX or full arts dupes that I'd gladly sell because the game just keeps giving me the same shit again and again and again.
>>56940665Never heard of that top game in my life.
>>56940660>I don’t understand why power creep is bad for a game and that it will kill new player acquisition given a long enough time period>The Jews at wotc are actively stopping me from playing with old cardsIf you’re going to argue in bad faith at least try to hide it. Set rotation is the best compromise between having a fun and reasonably-powered game while also allowing the company that makes it to earn money to keep making said game
I don't like cards rotating out. I much prefer the ban/limit system. The whole excitement is seeing how you can use newer cards to increase the playability of older cards. Like, instead of rotating Snorlax out to make a new better one, just introduce a set of cards that can accelerate its performance like a Poke Flute or a Leftovers and other things that sound like they'd relate to it. That way you can gear the deck closer to Snorlax instead of making a Snorlax 3.0 that's still off by itself anyway.
>>56940677>I'll laugh like a stupid bitch if/when that happens just because of all the retards that spent $200 on this shit game only to have their cards banned in less than a month.well it happened after I think 4 sets with the TCG so we still have some time. I think if anything they'll just block the oldest set from official play but you'll still be able to do random PVP matches. again though, I don't think they will ban old sets on pocket. F2P and IRL TCG are different beasts.
>>56940678>pack pointsNot to mention, you can't hoard these points.Once M2, Pika, Char packs are replaced in january with the new pack, your points expire/reset.
>>56940693>Once M2, Pika, Char packs are replaced in january with the new pack, your points expire/reset.I don't think it'd be as soon as that pack because the viewer allows toggling between expansions, but they definitely do have a timer on them. Either way, I have no faith they'd allow reasonable pack point exchange for higher rarity cards unless you abandon pulling from the newer packs to dedicate those pulls to the old one, which would be stupidly gimping yourself.
Anyone else got this bullshit?Clearing cache isn't working
>>56940701Try restarting your phone
>>56940698Either way, free to players are fucked, no matter what.And trading looks horrible with the wording "certain cards" in their previous announcement.
I really just don't understand how this game could possibly survive. If sets don't rotate, then newfags just can't play the game unless they whale, or unless powercreep becomes EXTREME. If sets do rotate, then f2p must reroll their accounts every time a new set releases and instead of whales continuing to whale they might decide to spend their money elsewhere since (unlike normal gacha) the stuff they are spending their money on becomes literally unusable after [x time]. And how the fuck is trading even going to work? That's probably not going to be friendly to anyone, since we already know the cards you can trade are limited. I'm assuming it's going to be that you can only trade cards from the previous expansion set, but at what price? And will f2ps be able to get enough packs of the new sets to make continuing to play the game worth it? Or are they still just going to reroll their accounts every new set and then hope to trade for staples from the previous expansion?I actually cannot imagine a positive future.
>>56940704>Try restarting your phoneAlready tried that
>>56940708You get enough to be able to play as f2p as long as you're not a dipshit is the general idea.
>>56940701I had it fixed by reinstalling the app.
>>56940711>as long as you're not a dipshit...you mean as long as you get lucky? What? What a retarded whale attitude.
>>56940708>I really just don't understand how this game could possibly survive.It's Pokemon It's the TCG and it's opening packs. The battle system will get better and the UI will be improved.
>>56940708>what are multiple formatsdo yugioh players really?
>>56940720>...you mean as long as you get lucky? What?as long as you figure out what deck you want to play early and work toward building that deck, you can have fun.basically stick to one pack type and open those packs with hourglasses and use your free opens for other sets (or stick to only the main set) and you'll eventually get the deck you need.
>>56940708They'll just have events that give you more and more of that currency for opening cards.I'm sure they see the problem with how slow it'll be to get more packs with the next set
When you don't Thanks me, that's the true W. I remember the name of all my opponents and the ones I beat. I'm looking for you, and when I go to my inbox and see that you didn't give Thanks. I won, I beat you in game, I beat you mentally, spiritually, and it feels so SOOO fucking good. Thanks for the game kid.
>>56940708Honestly, I think they need to up the daily packs to 3 packs a day, and then modify it beyond that so it's 3 packs a day per expansion so that a player can at least do 1 pull per pack each day. Things only seem manageable in the present because of account rerolling but either no longer having that luxury with your fixed account, or, deciding to scrap what you have to try again is going to cause problems with future expansions. You're right that this is going to barrel toward unsustainable. I think trading is always going to stay 2 expansions behind (or same thing as 1 major expansion behind), but I really don't want to see what the shinedust cost looks like since I fear it's going to be annoyingly expensive for high rarity trades.
>>56940665probably has more content too lol
>>56940729I'm a Magic and briefly Netrunner player, actually. If they introduce multiple formats, the event versus modes are likely to be whatever the newest format is, and there's no actual incentive to play anything other than the event versus. And if they were to introduce multiple formats, they'd ideally have one that doesn't allow EXs rather than one that is "standard".>>56940733>as long as you figure out what deck you want to play early and work toward building that deck, you can have fun.If you get lucky, sure. This could still take a month or longer before you are allowed to play the game as f2p.
>>56940741I don't think about you at all.
>>56940686the could just do what magic does and introduce different types of games. Like a legacy mode that lets you use whatever cards you want and a... I don't know "modern" mode that only uses the most recent sets.
Can Gengar decks work in practice? His attack is mediocre and his ability is pretty lackluster.
>>56940733What are you smoking sir? You can't build anything in this game...You either get lucky getting the cards or not.I've used up all of my hourglasses and I can't buy gardevoir and it's previous forms for my M2 ex with my card points.
>>56940741Sometimes I just click past the Thanks screen, bro. It's not that deep. Plus, thanking people takes longer. It shouldn't take that long. You should be able to skip the heart animation.
>>56940747>If you get lucky, sure.you open enough packs from the same set you should get some kind of playable deck. I mean you could think about making a mid range deck (say like Exeggutor/Butterfree) that can get the job done until you get a high end deck like Pikachu/Zapdos, Mewtwo/Gardevoir or Charizard/Moltres and that way you can still have fun.I fucked up my pulls early on (I was pulling from all decks instead of just one) and I still was able to eventually pull a good mid range deck and a high end deck once I realized my error and found deck builds.
>>56940758This, you either have to get lucky or reset a million times until you get the planets to align and give you the exact cards you want at the same time
>>56940747>This could still take a month or longer before you are allowed to play the game as f2p.We all have functioning decks by now, and it hasn't been even close to a month.Again, the early shit you get will get you there decently well.
>>56940755>the could just do what magic does and introduce different types of games. Like a legacy mode that lets you use whatever cards you want and a... I don't know "modern" mode that only uses the most recent sets.yeah, there you go. tournies using old decks. or revisiting old events.
sex with sabrina
>>56940756>Can Gengar decks work in practice?https://www.pokemonmeta.com/top-decks#deck=Gengar%20exyes?
>>56940767>whale was a retard>whale assumes that f2ps are retards as a result>whale doesn't understand how the game works because he just buys everythingIf you get lucky, you can make a deck, sure. >>56940774>with all of the newbie rewards that are ubiquitous to gacha, combined with rerolling, all of us have at least 1 meta deck!...yeah, I already went over this. Read the posts.
>>56940785>If you get lucky, you can make a deck, sure.even if you're not lucky you can build discount decks. pic related.
>>56940747Of course events would be in “standard,” whatever that ends up looking like. Older formats mostly exist to give players a way to play with their old cards, not that most of them will want to. The format with the new cards is always the most popular
>>56940785Rerolling is not required.
>>56940708Considering how big this section is, I assume you'll be able to trade from any non-current set, as well as pull from multiple recent sets. I would LIKE to imagine that they'll try to not introduce powercreep to this game by keeping everything relative on the powerscale, and I hope they can avoid the problem most Gacha have with powercreep because everyone already likes Pokemon, and people will pull for Pokemon they like just to collect, regardless of powerlevel. The ISSUE with that is that they'll rerelease Pokemon at some point. So for example, for people that like Greninja right now, he's fairly usable in the backline for his ability, but eventually they will release a Greninja EX or Ash-Greninja 4 or 5 sets from now, and and you'll have to keep scaling the powerlevels until the creep will eventually get bad. Do I hope my Charizard deck is vaguely usable right now? Of course I do. Will it be viable at all? Probably not.
>>56940498I assume it'll work similarly to the real TCG, where there are two "letter" sets in the format at any given time. So like we'll get A01-A04, then B01-B04, then C01-C04, and so on. But once C comes out, A will be rotated out and its cards unusable outside of Expanded format. That'll probably be when the packs are retired.I also fully expect they'll start being a LOT more generous with older packs once we get more pack types, since the cards will be outdated but opening them will make the game feel like players are getting more value.
>>56940756it's a slow build up deck for a stage 2 pokemon. Mean you need all 3 cards in your hand, they need to survive long enough to get to gengar, and you need to have the energy to actually be able to use them if you pull all that off. I say par it with Hypno and kangaskhan to try and stall long enough to get it set up. Wouldn't advise Gardevoir since that's a mother 2nd stage pokemon that's also pretty frail.
>>56940795And your winrate is around 15%~ at best with said free decks.You have to rely on coin rolls heavly.
>>56940320I would
I can't wait for a day off so I can finally pop my vs cherry.
>>56940785>at least 1 meta deckNobody except the voices in your head said this btw. You don't need meta to play the game, >>56940795 has it right.Expecting to be able to build new meta decks consistently for free is not a thing that will ever happen, especially without very careful planning, because that's not profitable.
>>56940785>>whale was a retard>>whale assumes that f2ps are retards as a result>>whale doesn't understand how the game works because he just buys everythingFunny because this sums up Japan in a nutshell based on the install vs pay numbers. Only 4% of installs came from Japan yet it had the highest source of revenue, meaning the rest of the world is smart enough to reroll accounts (bloating the install count) while Japan is full of dumb whales
>>56940403you are old af
>>56940708I've opened about a hundred packs and have almost exhausted both the charizard and mewtwo packs of good cards, can probably snag the remaining stuff per wonder pickentirely f2p, not even the 2 week pass; I'd say that's a pretty fair hauland depending on how trade is implemented old cards may retain some value
>Mistycuno mirror>Misty either pulls heads or doesn't come into play>Outplay my opponent throughout the game>Red Card into Sabrina to remove his Starmie when I know he's exhausted all his retreat options, leaving a weakened Arti or an energiless one for game>Doesn't thankMistysissies...
>>56940812>And your winrate is around 15%~ at best with said free decks.it needs to be enough to clear the vs computer decks to get enough hourglasses to pull more decks and get the rarer cards. here's a deck that can be modded for budget purposes that's pretty good against the computer through advanced. sure it's not gonna take out the high end meta decks but it's not supposed to.
>>56940820>Japan the land of pachinko parlors like to gamble Wow who would have thought
>>56940803That shit will kill the game for 90% of people who will go "I can't use my deck? Fuck this I'm going back to fortnite" since the only way to be viable is to ignore B and draw from C when C comes out since you'll have a longer time to work on that set's cards than you would starting on B's set. Also retarded how everything will be useless as the solo content is worse than the GameBoy games that came out 20 years ago.
>>56940782She's so cute and useful, I can't even count the amount of times she's saved my ass so far, I can't wait to get my hands on her alt card.
>>56940795>you can cobble together a trash pile no matter what you pull!Uhh... sure, okay. >>56940799>Of course events would be in “standard,” whatever that ends up looking like.Yeah, which is garbage. I get that it's a gacha game, but it's also a card game. The card game needs to be at least somewhat fun to play and the cards need to be at least somewhat accessible or people are going to quit.>>56940801Wrong. And rerolling becomes even more required if the new versus events are only using the most recent expansion. This game becomes a "you reroll every single new expansion" game. >>56940817>Expecting to be able to build new meta decks consistently for free is not a thing that will ever happen, especially without very careful planning, because that's not profitable.Why are you people unable to maintain a conversation? Why must I repeat myself every single post, lest you forget what the conversation is? Due to this game being a gacha, it's likely that newer sets will be strictly better than older sets. I cannot see a positive future for this game, because I can only imagine a future where (eventually) every new expansion f2ps will just be forced to reroll (doubly true if this game starts having "standard"), and every set whales will be forced to whale, but unlike actual gacha, they wont really even be able to use their previous purchases in the game, so they might quit too.
>>56940708>actually cannot imagine a positive futurebecause you're a retarded dumb fuck
THERES NOTHING TO DOTHERES NOTHING TO DOTHERES NOTHING TO DO
>>56940835They get crazy about gambling because actual gambling is banned. The sad part is they ditched the game corner in the mainline while the Pokemon company itself still runs gambling games, talk about hypocrisy
>>56940820>Only 4% of installs came from Japan yet it had the highest source of revenue, meaning the rest of the world is smart enough to reroll accounts (bloating the install count) while Japan is full of dumb whalesThis is wrong, they constantly reroll, moreso than others, but they also spend money after that anyways.
>>56940830>I'd say that's a pretty fair haulYou're forgetting that you got newbie rewards and possibly rerolled.
>>56940817>Nobody except the voices in your head said this btw. You don't need meta to play the game,if you want to win PVP you're gonna need high end decks otherwise you'll never compete against P2W types.> >>56940795 (You) has it right.That's me,>Expecting to be able to build new meta decks consistently for freeNo, I'm not expecting that. I have one meta deck and I don't think when they release the next set that I'll get anywhere near the same amount of hourglasses that I did with this set.>especially without very careful planning,Well that's a reality they don't tell us about. One should plan on how they open decks.> because that's not profitable.It's pokemon. It's profitable lol. Look at PoGo. That's a mess and it's still profitable.
>>56940747>This could still take a month or longerCan you fuck off with your retard level baits? Post your cards. There's no way you can't have a deck within just a week or two.
>>56940852>but they also spend money after that anywaysLol well that just builds more of a profile of how dumb they are about it
>>56940784>>56940805Alright, I'll try building around that, by the way, why do some of those top decks use the pokedex? Is it an actual good card? Checking your own deck doesn't seem all that useful.
>>56940840>Uhh... sure, okay.I was able to pull a deck together pulling from everywhere. sure I don't have the worst luck in the world but I also don't have anywhere near what I'd consider good luck. My flips are absolute trash.
>>56940853I did not re-roll and the newbie reward is what, a week of play maybe?
>>56940849This post is literally my inner monologue
>>56940552>if you actually get that cardYou can just look at other player's cards. You don't need to have it.
>>56940857I rerolled and also got newbie rewards. I'm not saying that I don't currently have a deck. I'm saying that I can't imagine a future where f2p will be able to play when new sets are released, and that it might even cause whales to quit. You can probably reasonably expect to have acquired a deck in a new expansion as a f2p as it starts nearing its rotation out.
>>56940840>metafag losing his mind imagining people playing other decks other than top tierNice wall of text, but they always release budget decks and cheaper build arounds every set release in every card game
>>56940840What a unique issue you've found in this gacha game.PvP, powercreep and getting raped by whales are things that go hand in hand really well, as evidenced by many, many existing gachas.
>>56940849This.Is it too difficult to run a single daily PvE or wonder pick thing at all times?
>>56940863>why do some of those top decks use the pokedex?I would assume they pair it with using pokeball to save a card. or they're on the "no" side of using red card. (there was a huge debate about it last week)
>>56940500might be related to the loaner deck templates
>>56940849>>56940866>>56940881Late next week.
>>56940876>>metafag losing his mind imagining people playing other decks other than top tierThat's not what's happening though. I rerolled for meta because this is a gacha game and that's the smart thing to do, but there are many non-meta decks that I want to be able to play, but that I can't pull the cards for. This phenomenon will only become worse over time, because in the future I wont even have a meta deck to "fall back" on when I can't pull any of the cards that I want.>>56940877I still don't think you're understanding what I'm saying. You don't even get raped by whales in this game, you reroll for meta, and that's probably what f2p are going to be required to do going forward into new expansions. This becomes obviously true, no questions asked, if they start rotating the sets.
>pack points have a timerProoof?
>>56940840>Why are you people unable to maintain a conversationDo you have a life outside of baiting in this thread all day? Are you in school? Do you have a career? Do you have a gf or a wife? Imagine if you put half the energy you waste baiting all day, into progressing your actual life. Imagine if instead of typing retarded walls of text, you invested that same energy into learning valuable skills and did something with your life. You won't so here is a video to keep you busy. One day, years from now you'll think back on this moment and wish you started a little sooner.https://youtu.be/CrEnB49pmWE?si=toPSp5YwDKE7vfuw
>>56940383MOOOOOT
>>56940894>I pumped all my resources into the useless ass pikanigger pack and now I'm broke and got nothing to show for it
>>56940875>I can't imagine a future where f2p will be able to play when new sets are releasedgachas are like a pyramid scheme in that the f2p get the burst of dopamine and gifts so they'll be able to make decks easy while older players like you will be barely scraping by 2.5 packs a daythey know when and how to get new players to start to play and will give more rewards to hook them in so it's a non-issue
>>56940876>Nice wall of text, but they always release budget decks and cheaper build arounds every set release in every card gameand if someone is really hard up for earning hourglasses and they have horrible luck, there's always the rental decks they can use to squeak out some wins.
>>56940896Open the pack points trade and click on the ? mark at the top.
>>56940894>I still don't think you're understanding what I'm saying. You don't even get raped by whales in this game, you reroll for meta, and that's probably what f2p are going to be required to do going forward into new expansions. This becomes obviously true, no questions asked, if they start rotating the sets.Nope.Again, this is not an issue unique to this game, and it will not be an issue that persists.Now, if they don't somehow address that issue, then yeah, the game is likely dead, but that's not going to happen because they're not literal retards. They've been doing this shit for 10+ years.You will get enough to roll what you need to play the game, that's not even a question.
Shill is working overtime huh? Tell your boss to make a better game instead of wasting your time having to defend them over and over
fuck off bird
>>56940894>I can't pull the cards for.That's very nice sperg, but maybe you should consider getting gud instead of typing out your blog post paragraphs about how you feel and doom posting because of your skill issue
>>56940558Wonder Pick is truly evil. You need to wait a day and a half for a chance at anything worthwhile and cards are available for a limited time. Hands down the most predatory mechanic in the game.
>>56940896>>56940908Sorry, not the question mark but the ! mark.
>>56940905well I guess it's more like a reverse pyramid schemethe point is f2p will always be viable for the initial period they think is optimal for maximum whale conversion because that's literally the whole business plan
>>56940921Aaaand it's a 12 hourglasses for one pick.
>>56940921Wonder Pick should be on an 6 or 8 hour timer instead of 12 hours.Max of 2 cards per day.It's a stupid system.
>>56940924Does anyone know what the availability period for genex is?
>>56940934>Wonder Pick should be on an 6 or 8 hour timer instead of 12 hours.>Max of 2 cards per day.a fifth of a good card every twelve hours doesn't sound all that greatthey could at least have a day a week/month where you have like wonder point madness and it allows for at least 3 or 4 pulls in the 16 hours you're humanly expected to open this stupid thing
>>56940921>Wonder Pick is truly evil. You need to wait a day and a half for a chance at anything worthwhile and cards are available for a limited time. Hands down the most predatory mechanic in the game.From this point I'm going to only spend 1 wonder point and only when my wonder points are full. No sense getting my hopes up that I'll pull something good or something needed.
>>56940934It annoys me that as much as this is correct, I'm finding it hard to spend them fast enough because go figure, it's all shit.
>>56940945>Does anyone know what the availability period for genex is?rumor is late December or early January is gonna be the new set
>>56940897>he thinks reasonable, logical, and explained conclusions are """bait""">refuses to engage with anything said, results in a lengthy post that is entirely ad hominem I'm glad my point got through to you and you realized that it was correct. >>56940902...I have Mewtwo though.>>56940905>rudimentary explanation of gachaI have never had an issue playing gacha as f2p before. However, in this game, it seems like I will be forced to reroll every new expansion or just not play the card game. Usually in gacha, f2ps are rewarded for maintaining one account for a long time, but I can't see that happening here. I can only imagine a future where it is most beneficial for f2p to reroll every new expansion, which is just retarded.>>56940911>a possible future where f2p must reroll every time a ["new character"] is released is not something unique to Pokemon TCG PocketHah, really? First I've ever encountered it. >Now, if they don't somehow address that issue, then yeah, the game is likely dead>they're not literal retards>You will get enough to roll what you need to play the game, that's not even a question.So you agree that there seems to be a very clear and very likely issue in the near-term future of the game? Except you're confident that they will address it. I am not. >>56940920When you say "git gud" do you mean spend money? Because how else am I getting the cards that I want that the game isn't giving me? Weird. Why are there so many unironic paid shills in this thread?
>>56940959>not having them dance like that psycho anime acid trip song.
>>56940959sit down....
>>56940964>I can only imagine a future where it is most beneficial for f2p to reroll every new expansionI played lots of gachas before and that was the case for half of them that people in the "community" rerolled every anniversary or whatever for the new OP unit/card/etcyou get used to it and either accept that you're not playing this competitively or accept that f2p gachas are bottom of the barrel garbage and not really a long term solution to boredom (unless you already have a gambling addiction but there's MUCH better gachas for that than fucking pokemon)
>>56940964>a possible future where f2p must reroll every time a ["new character"] is released is not something unique to Pokemon TCG PocketThat's true for many games.You don't see it, because, go figure, that's not how it actually works.You don't need the best of the best. Your previous deck still functions to a degree. Of course it won't perform against the new whale shit, because shocker, they want you to spend money. That's something true pretty universally for PvP gachas.
Wonder picks are literal huge rate up banners for the card you want, the regular odds of pulling a like specific 3 star or higher is like 0.3%, you're getting a 20% rate up pack, 40% if you pick smartly, that shit is so generous already for f2p as long as you don't spam alt art chaseJust don't pick wrong lmao stop complaining that you suck at rolling
>>56940959
>>56940916If you don't want to play the game then just quit and leave the thread instead of shitting up the threads everyday. No life loser.
>>56940964>...I have Mewtwo though.then you should also have some other cards to play with; stop crying or pay up if you want more, bitchlike how are you this asshurt about a fun little casual game like this, goddamn
>>56940983>you're getting a 20% rate up packyou're forgetting to include the chance that your card even shows up in your WP lol>bro you just wait for your team to score then buy your betting tickets it's easy money
>>56940964>I have never had an issue playing gacha as f2p before. However, in this game, it seems like I will be forced to reroll every new expansion or just not play the card game.Look, I understand your concern, but at this moment you're only creating problems that don't exist yet, the public version of the game is less than a month old and by now most whales most likely have already gotten all of the cards available, meaning that there's no more reason for the to spend money, meaning that this game's income is already suffering from the lack of content everyone is complaining about.Give it at least until the next set gets released and from there we might have a better idea of what DeNA is planning to address all of the current concerns. If by then it becomes apparent that the game has no future for f2p players, you can do as me and drop the game, you have no responsibility whatsoever to give your valuable time to a company that already has a bad reputation among gacha developers.
>>56940984isn't venusaur butterfree too pokemon heavy to work?I mean exeggutor butterfree works better.
>>56940984Based lol
I really love Marowak holding the coins
>never get more than 1 heads with Misty since I started playing a week ago>Suddenly thist-thanks Misty
>>56940976>I played lots of gachas before and that was the case for half of them that people in the "community" rerolled every anniversary or whatever for the new OP unit/card/etcThat's never been the case for any gacha that I've ever played. One gacha I played, you could definitely make an argument for reroll on anniversary since there was a bunch of free shit, but the reward never outweighed the loss of everything else you had on your account. If/when sets rotate, the only option for f2p will be to reroll. There will be no cost/loss benefit of rerolling, because those cards will functionally no longer exist. We might even enter a scenario where new expansions are like 50% reprints and only 50% new cards, making the decision to reroll even easier. The problem that I see in the future of this game is a problem that is entirely unique to this game specifically. >>56940988>asshurtI don't understand why anons are projecting things onto me and using arguments that do not logically make any sense. This only makes sense if you are a literal shill or if you are a whale. I'm attempting to discuss the future of this game, and I'm raising concerns that are valid and obvious, and all of the rebuttals have been nonsensical and don't "counter" anything that I'm saying, but rather seem to be saying "yes it's a problem, and it's good; if you don't like it stop playing" and I think that is what's going to happen. Everyone quitting is part of the problem, you see. >>56940999>only creating problems that don't exist yet>Give it at least until the next set gets released >no future for f2p players, you can do as me and drop the gameThis is the first reasonable reply I've received. I agree with you. Perhaps I'm preemptively worrying about nothing, but I don't have a lot faith for the future, because I think all f2ps quit or endlessly reroll every expansion, but we'll see. You need f2ps for whales to feel superior to, or the game dies.
>the sperg is still losing his mind having an autistic meltdown over bricking his account netdecking meta decks and that he can't f2p play every top tier possibleCope and seethe that it's the games fault you're this autistic kek
>>56941019>they all get put on your staryu
>>56941020you've written about half a middleschool report on how you're sad you don't have more cards by now, goddamn right it's asshurt
>>56940863will if it's an articuno deck it's because they take advantage of the fact that your opening hand HAS to have a basic, so they just load up 2 articuno EXs 2 misty in the hopes of getting lucky and getting a turn one kill, and then just whatever else they can use as filler to get up to the 20 card requirement for a deck.
>>56941020>If/when sets rotate, the only option for f2p will be to reroll. There will be no cost/loss benefit of rerolling, because those cards will functionally no longer exist.This should already tell you that it's not happening.Even if it did, which it won't, they will simply give players enough currency as "compensation" to outweight rerolling.It's that fucking simple.
Waifu card get
>>56941028It was on a Lapras EX so not much better
>>56941020you're making a lot of assumptionsthis gacha and its problems are far from unique and dena has made garbage before we know their playbookjust wait and see and if you don't like it then be happy it's not the last pokemon thing to ever come out you'll get over it I'm sure
>>56941019I'd want Misty to give me some head too.
>>56941046>It was on a Lapras EX so not much betternot even the standard lapras with the extra damage lol.
>>56940498Yes, I think you will no longer be able to get/buy them. They can't afford to have good cards available all the time, or players won't spend money on the NEW good cards. By removing the ability to get old good cards, you ramp up the FOMO factor and increase player spending.
>>56941032The thread was discussing the future of the game, so I provided my opinion. There's nothing "asshurt" about it, they are legitimate concerns for anyone who isn't a whale. You can't have all your f2p quit or else there is no one for whales to feel superior to.>>56941037>This should already tell you that it's not happening.I really wouldn't be so sure, but it remains to be seen. The rerolling every set is actually, if you can believe it, the best case scenario for f2p. The other scenario is that f2p just gets roflstomped by the new set's power creep, or maybe straight up cannot play the event versus... where they might "need" to reroll anyway. >>56941047>you'll get over it I'm sureI really and truly don't understand why these projections are happening. If you are a loyal shill, you should also be concerned about the long term health of the game.
>Retard uses Blizzard with Angry Monkey on my bench
>type articuno in google in another tab to make sure I'm spelling it right. >other tab opens up some images after hitting enter and for a moment one looks like a rito from breath of the wild but done up to look like articuno if they were a rito. >Look closer and see it's just a bad image of an articuno on a stand.bit off topic but I'm kind of surprised Nintendo hasn't had rito inspired by the 3 legendary birds as an Easter egg or something in their game.
>>56941074>I really wouldn't be so sure, but it remains to be seen. The rerolling every set is actually, if you can believe it, the best case scenario for f2p. The other scenario is that f2p just gets roflstomped by the new set's power creep, or maybe straight up cannot play the event versus... where they might "need" to reroll anyway.No, the other scenario is that you just keep playing because you get enough to work with.Now, the upcoming "5 wins in a row" event is possible cause for alarm, but it's not like any of this is mandatory.
>>56941074>If you are a loyal shill, you should also be concerned about the long term health of the game.that should tell you something anon....did my calling this game garbage give it away?
>>56941055She's been fucking me nonstop
>>56940708This is how it's going to work:- old sets can't be purchased anymore, but if you already have cards from them, you can still use them- new cards will be stronger so that you will want to spend on the new cards too>tradingLike back in the day in Pokemon TCGO - cards you pulled from free packs cannot be traded. Cards you pulled from paid packs can be traded with no limits. This avoids the "make a new account and trade free cards to your old account" problem.
>>56941088There have been a lot of loyal shill replies to me. If you aren't one of them, that's fine, but you implied that I would be mad or sad about quitting this game if it turns out that my concerns are correct and accurate to the eventual reality. I'm having fun now, but if my concerns turn out to be true, I'm just going to quit and it wont even be a sad thing. There will be nothing to "get over", because I already saw the writing on the wall.
>>56941108Given the collection aspect of the game, old cards will come back in some form at some point too.Doesn't really even need that justification, they'll likely run specific old cards that are relevant in expected metas anyways.
I want a Muk EX
>>56941112Do these shills exist outside of your head, or do you just imagine talking about reality to be shillspeech?
>>56941112>muh sheeelsI just had my fun with the game for now, especially considering the time invested and am calling you out for being an idiotI don't know why it needs to be any more than a casual little thing, do you want to marry pokemon pocket? better consult with daddy nintendo what the dowry's gonna look like then
>>56941123w...what's Muk gonna do once he engulfs them?
>>56941108>cards you pulled from free packs cannot be traded. Cards you pulled from paid packs can be traded with no limits.If they go this route, they need to give you the option of only using gold instead of using your hourglasses first.
>>56941087>because you get enough to work withWe only "got enough to work with" because of the new player bonuses and because we knew that most meta decks are entirely contained within a specific pack (zard/mewtwo/pika). A continuing player will only be able to open 8(daily)+1(hourglass) packs per 4 days. If they decide to mix up the card distribution between packs so that opening multiple types is required to be able to get cards for any meta deck, then you better pay up.
>>56940558Maybe if they were having good packs or cards I don't have this basically never happens
>>56941125I perceive >"it's not a problem, it's never going to be a problem, I know because I spent money on the game, if you don't like it just spend money on the game that fixes all problems, and even if it was a problem that would be a good thing"to be the kind of things a shill would say. >>56941129Alright, I had my doubts and thought I had made a mistake, but you are absolutely a shill.
>>56941119>Genetic Apex A1 banner rerun, lasts only a week, buy fast!
Will Koga/Blaine/Brock/Surge work one regional Muk, Weezing, Ninetales, Golem, Raichu, and Electrode?It would be pretty funny to Misty an Alolan Vulpix turn 1 and then swing with some 3-energy water attack buffed by Blaine on turn 2.
>>56940741No I won't give thanksnice psyop attempt though
This went to a Kingler that promptly wrecked my shit
>>56941141Why are you unable to maintain a conversation? Already covered previously, read the posts you're responding to.>>56941149So yeah, they live in your fictional world, got it.
>>56940849>>56940881Welcome to Pokemon Masters
>>56941139Well, I don't think introducing a packs for gold trade in the shop would be a big issue. So in this scenario it could be>cards from packs you got from the shop can be traded, cards from other packs cannot...is what I wanted to say, but I think this might actually be too direct, since normally a gacha wants to obfuscate the actual cost of pulls. If they just restrict trading based on rarity or something it would be clunky as fuck.
>>56941149I wish I were getting paid to do this, where do I sign up?
>>56940987see >>56940916
THERE IS NOTHING TO FUCKING DO IN THIS GAME I DID EVERYTHING ALREADY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WHAT DO I DO
>>56941172That's Master Sex to you, bucko
>>56941164That was my first reply, why are you unable to maintain a conversation?
>>56941180>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WHAT DO I DOPvP. Level yourself up and save those hourglasses. Also, calm the fuck down.
>>56941190I HAVE WON OVER 50 BATTLES WHAT'S THE POINT ANYMOREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
THIS GAME FUCKING SUCKS
>>56941164>9 packs per 4 days is enough to keep up>when new shit gets released every 2 monthsLMAO
>>56941074>>56941032>>56941020>>56940999>>56940964can you retards stop killing the thread ffs? no one cares any your stupid ideas and theories.
>>56941204>Still didn't go back to read the conversationAlready covered. We're done here, have a nice night or whatever.
>>56941194I usually chill on playing a lot of matches without a ranked ladder, but f2p is fun to cook up a new deck every couple of days when I unlock new cards or get new ideas, that'll last me a bit since I get to playtest new decks in normals
>>56941180Well, there's two things:1. open the game twice a day to collect your free cardsor2. uninstall and play something that's actually engaging. The additional advantage of this is that you will no longer need to come back to this hopeless... well, it's not really a game even, it's just a place where you can buy tiny jpgs and do nothing with them.
>>56941214name a good game for me to play, i'll pirate it
>>56941210>he's still defending itOH NO NO NO NOAHAHAHAHAAHA
>>56941216>not having her covered in tokens, wearing nothing else.wasted opportunity.
>>56941216Balatro or Tametsi
>>56941216Total War: Warhammer 3 with all DLCs. It's pirateable.Or do you mean something for your phone? Eeeeeeh, why would you want to play games on your phone? That shit's for making calls and nothing really exists that could be called a game on it. If you have a good phone you could install a 3DS emulator, I guess.
>>56941180the shill's gonna go on a tantrum if you guys keep this up
I've been playing since Friday night. How am I doing guys?
Get tcg card tycoon on your phone so you can spam card pack pulls kek
You guys ready for Professors Research to get powercrept to hell?
>>56941244How many $
>>56941250fertile armpit
>>56941250How long did it take tcg to get to discard your hand draw 7
>>56941262That was in the base set.
>>56941262Base set 1
>>56941262Day 1
>>56941253I refuse to spend irl money on digital TCGs. I gamble on MTG cardboard instead.
>>56941279>MTG>Post-Zendikarngmi
What current pokemon cards do you think will still play in the next expansion, not miniboxMoltres ExStarmie ExPikachu ExGardevoirWheezing
>>56941281I can easily have EDH nights with people, same can't be said for any other TCG.Pokemon is probably more profitable if I were in it for money though.
>>56941205Why so upset, DeNA employee?
I'm doing all the solo challenges, do you unlock anything if you do them all?
>>56941283All of them, because poorfags can't afford to open packs, I hear.
>>56941313nothing other than the rewards, I think.
Can you use the currency you get from the premium trial to buy things from the shop even after the trial runs out?
>>56941244I should have kept rerolling until a FA Erika appeared.Gratz
>>56941283Niche use of Pidgeot and Butterfree. Weezing and Aerodactyl both depend entirely on future attack power level, but it's not looking good.Moltres Ex, Starmie Ex and Pikachu Ex will be either too weak or too fragile to matter.
Give it to me straight lads.Are pack points going to expire when the new set comes out? Does that mean I'm going to have to spend all my pack points before the new set comes out? Or will the current pack points roll over to the new set?
>>56941342The pack points out right now will only ever apply to this set, not the future set
>>56941283>not miniboxWe're expecting a Johto-themed set, right?And the December Mini-set will be Kanto E4?Then Dragonite (ex?)/Kingdra (ex) will be playable with Lance/Clair supporters.Pikachu will fall off a bit after Bruno/Chuck supporters make fighting decks better.Water won't be left out, expect Lorelei/Pryce to specifically target non-legend ice types like Lapras and Dewgonf instead of being generic water like Misty.Morty amd Agatha might bring along a dark-type Gengar line variant and chew into Mewtwo, possibly with an ability-negation ability/attack on Gengar (ex) to complement the existing Gengars stopping supporters.
How much HP do you think Blissey ex will have? 260 or above? As long as most meta cards will have 200 or less HP, Charizard will still be viable.>>56941342They won't expire, all sets will be available at once at least for a while. People are being needlessly paranoid.
>>56941342Pity is banner-specific.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/44VM8UPeS38how do I get the god pack to appear on my account...
>>56941353>They won't expire,They expire when the set goes away. It says so in the tooltip.
>>56941347>The pack points out right now will only ever apply to this set, not the future set>>56941353>They won't expire, all sets will be available at once at least for a while.So the pack points won't expire but when I switch to pull cards from the new set, the pack point I currently have won't be there?That is, I'll earn all new pack points for the new set while having the old pack points for the old set?Why didn't they make the current pack points more obviously deck specific? /hmm
>>56941325Good fuck them
>>56941364>black>shirtless>didn't go through the entire pack
>>56941374When you enter each set's screen, it'll display its personal pack points based on your pulls for each
>>56941366It also says pack points don't expire in the FAQ.
>>56941045Very nice
>>56941385>When you enter each set's screen, it'll display its personal pack points based on your pulls for eachOkay, cool. It will get confusing knowing how much pack points you have per set so I think they should differentiate pack points. Like either naming them or changing their color.
>>56941182>Master Sexnot before year 1
>>56941374>Why didn't they make the current pack points more obviously deck specific?Pack points are only visible on the menu for a specific pack.The first time you open the pack points menu, the new player guide says>Opening booster packs of a given expansion earns you pack points for that expansion.>Those points can be exchanged only for cards that appear in that expansion.>An expansion is a group of similarly labeled booster packs.but (You) clicked [Next] a bunch of times instead of reading that shit.>>56941387Click the (!) button in the pack points menu and read a tooltip that says>If the availability for a given booster pack ends, its pack points will no longer be available for exchange.
>Weezer: are... are you sure, boss?>Koga: yes, now do it>Weezer: ok.... *BRAAAAAAAP*>Koga: 'god im so mysterious, hehehe'
>>56941391Genetic Apex Charizard, Genetic Apex Mewtwo, and Genetic Apex Pikachu are three different "booster packs" but are all part of the same "expansion". Pack points are tied to expansions >>56941417. You can't see a difference between "Genetic Apex Mewtwo" pack points and "Genetic Apex Pikachu" pack points because there is no difference. Both booster packs give you pack points for the "Genetic Apex" expansion.
>>56941417>Do pack points expire?>No, pack points do not expire.
I don't understand why Koga's aces are pollution when there are several venom-based Poison-types who would suit his lifestyle as a ninja better
>>56941283Moltres exStarmie exzapados exGardevoir. Sabrina
>>56941460Cool. So when Genetic Apex eventually rotates out your unspent points will linger to taunt you.
>>56941468Poison > vemon
>>56941306would a dena employee call you a retarded nigger?
>>56941485Considering you get so upset because people call you out for being a shill, absolutely.
>>56941478Actually devilish.
>>56941317
>>56941500No.But when you buy back in later (and you will) you can spend your paypig bucks again
>>56941504Probably not, I doubt I'll even be playing by the time spring rolls around given the already glacial pace.Thanks for answering anyway.
>>56941485Obviously since they sent you to 4chan instead of the other forums
>>56941283Exeggutor EX is such a phenomenal opener I think it will age well if we get something else that essentially does the same thing (as a failsafe if you brick your eggy) where you can run a grass-type haymaker
>>56941500you can
>>56941158No, Alola Pokémon will have a different name. Same reason why an Alolan Vulpix cannot evolve into a regular Ninetales and why Pikachu EX cannot evolve into Raichu.
>>56941504>no>>56941537>yes
>>56941478Is it even going to rotate out at all? They've timed everything that is actually timed so far, but there's no such timer for GA packs. I'm thinking it will remain permanently as a "base" set, although I suppose nothing would stop them from adding a timer as it gets closer to being rotated out.
>>56941545https://www.reddit.com/r/PTCGP/comments/1grmmrk/psa_you_can_still_buy_from_the_premium_shop_after/My pass trial runs out in a week but this guy was able to buy from the shop.
>>56941283I think energy cheats can pretty safely be carried forward. Moltres, Misty, Gardevoir, Magneton. Are there others I'm forgetting? I think Weezing + Koga will be good for as long as early game Pokemon aren't dealing 110 (90) damage to Weezing. Utility Ability Pokemon (Weezing, Butterfree, Hypno) I think can also be carried forward. I think Pikachu will be the first of the current meta to be phased out. Not that an electric deck will be phased out, but that Pikachu is a 90 damage EX that gets killed easier than the other meta threats and also has more stipulations on it dealing damage. If the non-EX mons like Golduck and Sandslash are already doing 70, I don't think 90 is far off.
>>56941558So I can redeem my pass as Mewtwo is ending, collect 2 period's worth of Premium missions, and then save the currency until something that I want to buy shows up in the shop?
>>56941571Unless they change the currency to expire or switch each month to a new currency or something, it sounds like it.
>>56941558Do we know if premium quests reset at the start of a new month? Or do they last until the current mewtwo cosmetics get replaced (as it seems)?I want to get the trial right before the quests expire so I can double dip but I'm not sure exactly when that will happen.
>>56941342The game literally tells you that points are only available for as long as packs they came from are available.
>>56941529https://youtu.be/FytMDFnYfww?si=RTfV84wwqvTxfoqb
>>56941352>Morty amd Agatha might bring along a dark-type Gengar line variant and chew into Mewtwo, possibly with an ability-negation ability/attack on Gengar (ex) to complement the existing Gengars stopping supporters.Nope, we will get early Karen instead.
>>56941601>look at me, I rolled heads!
>two turns of Zapdos EX doing 0 damage with its 3 energy move>8 coins = 0 headsI can't stop laughing.I need a new deck. Recommend me some.
>>56941568The issue with Moltres is that it needs to be active in order to cheat energy. If damage numbers increase it may become too risky to run.Magneton is just ass.
>>56941283Charizard EX because we still won't have more than 200HP
>>56941623Mewtwo and Koga don't use coin flips
>>56941616I'm confident at flipping heads!
>>56941626>Magneton is just ass.Magneton is ass only because there's nothing big to build up in electric currently, and because Lt Surge only transfers to electric. If there ever is a universal Lt Surge or if electric gets a "Charizard", then Magneton becomes good.
>>56941623Give up, bro. The game is designed to make you miserable. Even if you use a deck with 0 coin flips, you will get cucked on draws every time.
>>56941623Same number of coin flips but Kangaskhan. Terrible card.
I don't think the gameplay will ever be good because Stage 2 is such a chore to make every single battle meanwhile most of the mons I like are or will be Stage 2, I'm probably going to stick to collection (or uninstall out of boredom)
>>56941640>you will get cucked on draws every time.I don't care about draw RNG, that's intrinsic in every TCG. Only newfags will get mad about that shit.Effect RNG being meta is another case altogether. It's why Hearthstone is a dogshit game compared to Magic/YGO.
>>56940741I literally never thank if I lose and I feel pity for the people who do
>>56941683Kek imagine being such a jobber you lose enough to seethe about it
>>56941591they reset every monthshop items last for 2
>>56941628ah yes fully evolving Garde before you lose is not a coinflip
>>56941699I do seethe at times but the no thank you on loss is strictly policy. I cannot imagine being so cucked that you thank people after losing. I don't even want to be thanked after winning, it feels weird
>>56941716Sure but I was being literal, if metaphorical there's quite a lot more to say
I have two Mewtwo Ex and no cards from the Gardevoir line.
>>56941749I had 5 Mewtwo EXs before I got a Gardevoir from wonder trade and then just bought the rest with points.
M2 decks consistently job to my Blastoise deck.
>annoyed that i don't have nidoking and nidoqueen>open pack, get full art nidoqueen followed of a normal nidokingUh, neat.
>>56941759Misty cannot be called consistencyI also run ExStoise but if you fail to get lucky you have no chance
does zebstrika choose its target or is it random?
>>56941775Chooses.
>>56941772>implying I even need MistyMost times I get 0 heads on both, and still manage to win.
>>56941639>orActually, you'd need both off these things to happen, because Magneton's ability can only charge itself.
>>56941794This. As a waterchad I feel my competency is measured by how well I can do without Misty. Anything extra she provides is merely bonus
>3 Seaking from one packAncient meme stronk.
>>56941803>Actually, you'd need both off these things to happen, because Magneton's ability can only charge itself....no you don't need both. Magneton charges itself and then Lt Surge's the energy onto "Charizard". Alternatively, a universal Lt. Surge would let Magneton be an energy battery for something (like Dragonite, allowing it to potentially run mono water or unfuck RNG energy) out of color.
>>56940558Wow, really? Cause it does the opposite for me. I see the shit people get and think "what the fuck, how can they have such shitty draws?" and it makes me just want to open less honestly cause there's never a single good thing in Wonder Pick. Like seriously, since I've started this game I haven't found a single Wonder Pick that I thought was worth spending points on. I just spend points to get the daily quest and don't really care what I get. Occasionally I'll see a card I don't have and go for it, but it's always just a common card that for whatever reason eludes me. And even then, if I don't get it from the pick I don't really care cause it's most likely a card I don't plan on using but just don't even have.
>>56941824Usually when I scroll through wonderpick there's at least two or three with at least one EX or full art.
>>56941814>>3 Seaking from one packmuliple of the same card should be illegal unless it's a Ex or full art or otherwise very rare card
>>56941725its a kid game anon. theres nothing weird to feel about winning or losing.
>>56941623Skill issue if your first flip isn't always heads.
>>56941818Just release my boy Magnezone and you'll really see some shit.
>>56941818Lt.Surge only works on Raichu, Electrode and Electabuzz. Neither of these is a Charizard-like card, so if such a card appeared you could not use the current Lt.Surge to move energy onto it.In other words, you need both a Charizard-like card (since there is none currently) and a car that can provide a Lt.Surge effect onto it (since the current Lt.Surge cannot do it).
Haven't got an EX or better in any of the last ~20 packs I openedIts not stopping me from playing or building decks, it just feels like ass to open these terrible packs constantly
>>56941794how the fuck do you stack 5 water energy on blastoise without misty? Are you running some weird hybrid stall deck with weezing or hypno's? I'm running exblastoise with ex lapras and it's only okay, far from as good as the more meta decks I have
>>56941879The game is coded to decrease your chance of getting good cards the more packs you open.
>>56941869if they ever add Electivire it would probably be a 3-4 energy attacker and magneton would be great for that, same with Magnezone
If I wonder pick foreign a foreign language pack do I get a foreign language card?
>Run dark deck>Go up against another dark deck, we both have essentially the same deck>Lose because I had to go first
>>56941889yes and no
>>56941879Gotta roll on those wonderpacks, you're not getting better odds than a 1/5 for an EX.
>>56941886It absolutely isn't.
>>56941869When I was a kid I always thought his name was Lt. Sarge.
They're 100% going to add 30 card decks mode.
>>56941901But will they keep the 2 card per deck limit?
I had a fucking silly game>playing venu dactyl (don't ask) vs kang zam>frontlining a bulbasaur while building up my second one>he has really bad luck with kang and from a certain point refuses to switch out out of principle>I evolve into ivysaur and potion/erika it to keep it alive, stalling so much that at a certain point he has both zams on 3 energy and both kang on 1, while I have venu on 3 and both dactyls on 2>he decides that he has enough, double x speeds out into zam and kills ivysaur>itstime.jpg>bring out dactyl and shuffle his zam>he kills it with his second zam, 2-0 for him>bring the second dactyl, shuffle the second zam back>he pokes it with kang, I switch out into venu and start giant blooming everything>he sees the writing on the wall and concedes
>>56941869>game releases Raichu EX>it's "Charizard">Magneton is good now
>>56941881What kills two walls fast enough to threaten Blastoise before it's at 5 energy? I think Mewtwo is the only deck that can do it. Pikachu takes 4 turns to get through two Kangaskhans/Mewtwos/whatever, same with Charizard even on a high roll. I play aggro decks and I routinely fail to get through two random shitmons before my opponent's Dragonite is loaded.
>>56941887Yes, but you could not use the current Lt.Surge on it, unless you mean ghetto moving energy onto Electabuzz and only evolving into Electivire after that.
>>56941906They have to. It's still half the size of the TCG.
>>56941901They won't, because the average phone user does not have the mental capacity to play such a deck.
>match goes on for 4 turns extra when my Marowak and their Zapdos keep flipping all tails back to back
>>56941909I'm pretty sure "Raichu Ex" is not "Raichu" in other similar cases currently in the game, but I might be wrong.
>>56941923Skill-based gameplay.
>>56941901I hope they do increase the card limit. The current system massively decks with basic ex pokemon, since they can actually fit in all the cards they need. I don't think you want to go much higher than 20 but I definitely have a sizeable number of decks where I'd kill to be able to play a 1-of that I can't currently fit in.If it was forced 30 that'd be interesting but I think Mewtwo and Pikachu just blow everything else out of the water with their near-guaranteed ex basics while everyone else is desperately trying to fill space with Farfetch'd and the like. Rather than forced 30, I'd rather that they just banned Pokeball to hit the big ex basics.
>>56941926Yeah, I could be wrong too. Still, you wouldn't need both to make Magneton good. If there was only a universal Lt Surge, I think that Dragonite might want to run Magneton, and it could still pump "colorless" to things that want it that way. Probably not top tier meta, but definitely useable.
If Raichu EX got an attack that didn't discard energy, Raichu+Magneton would be way more meta. I don't think we'll get one in the next pack, probably have to wait further down the line once more unique pokemon have been added before they go back and add that EX
>>56941923>match goes on for 4 extra turns because I keep activating Pidgeot's ability instead of attacking
? Shouldn't there be 10 cards per pack?
>>56941244>2 full art trainers>i have 0
>>56941940they dont' even need to ban it, they could just change the rules so that pokeballs don't hit EX pokemon and that would fix it. Larger deck sizes would force mewtwo/pika decks to change because you wouldn't be able to get bye with 10 more cards of support without bricking and would need a different strategy using more pokemon. A second mode with higher card count and a ranked system are my biggest asks right now.
mewtwo is broken, what the fuck LOL. Also i only lose to electric rat and primeape decks, the former i understand but the latter what am i doing wrong. That fucking ape gets off so much damage so quickly
>>56940849Did you try jerking off to Sabrina full art yet?
>>56941969yes
>>56941959You get 10 cards/day. They just split it to make you launch the game more often.
>>56941965promo a mankey does self damage with its attack, and primeape goes from 40 damage to 100 when not at full health, so turn 2 primeape can start sweeping pretty easily if you don't kill mankey. Ninetails+blaine decks are much the same with quickly getting 90 damage attack on turn 2 and bumping it up to 120 with blaine.
>>56941045friend code?
>>56941965Yeah, Mewtwo is really good and consistent.
>>56941959Jap difference.
Anyone tried Moltres/Zard/Hypno for the bants? There’s multiple problems with it (drowzee bricks, poke ball, sabrina bait if moltres dies) but the curiosity is still there.
>flipping a coin to see if you apply a status effect on the pokemon you've already fainted
sabrina should give me a psychic handjob
>>56941940Is there a grass is greener deck in poke tcg, it'll probably be pretty low powered in pocket for a while, but that'd be cool to get diff decks
>>56942073she does that to your opponent's mon that's why it goes back to the bench
>>56942073>gf sabrina giving you psychic handjobs in public
>>56942079no GY effects
>>56942079Not right now. Night March, my beloved
What's it gonna be?
>>56942118ARTICUNO
>>56942118Machamp
>>56942118Moltres
>>56942118That's a Gengar if I've ever seen one
>>56942155I have never seen a Gengar.
>>56942166I take it back. I just pulled a Gengar Ex.In the same pack as my >>56941749 third Mewtwo Ex.I have one Kirlia now but still no other Gardevoir cards.
>>56942137>>56942140>>56942149>>56942155It was Wigglytuff. I'm Weezer enjoyer so this is pretty good for me
>>56942185bretty good
>>56942185the small jigglypuff icon is strangely menacing
>>56941964The thing is that as long as you get a guaranteed basic in your hand, Pika/Mewtwo/other ex basic decks get a huge advantage at large deck sizes because they can guarantee a 50-70% chance of getting the powerful card they want to start with. It negatively affects stage 2 decks because they have a lower and lower chance of drawing their evolutions, so you'd need to add evo incense. Nerfing or banning pokeball is the best solution I've thought of to avoid the stupid Mewtwo style decks where they activate two pokeballs and now their entire gameplan is set up.
>>56942185Say it ain't so
>>56940849I don't play the game at all, I'm just a card collector who likes getting physical cards so this game has no appeal to me. I'll only drop by every now and then to see if a datamine has new Jasmine art. First series was all the Kanto gym leaders so I have my fingers crossed that next series will have Johto support cards.
Is this good?
>>56942288I'd rater get this >>56942185
>>56942288its aiight..
>>56942288It's good because it's rare, in reality it's ugly and not as cool as the immersive.
>>56942039moltres+zard works really well on it's own because moltres is naturally tanky enough to absorb some hits while building energy for zard. You could run hypno, but all you're really doing is lowering the consistency of your deck for additional funny coinflips.
>>56942288Broken
>>56942056Would be nice if they could patch this, should be easy to fix, just put the check for if the pokemon is dead before the coinflip
>>56942373If you only have one of these in your Pikachu deck people will know you're poor.
>>56942382Not that anon, but good to know, I have 2 in mine.
this card is underrated. has come in clutch as fuck several times. if it had 100hp it would be S tier.
>>56942390>underrated>meta decks run it
>>56942390>have never lost to zebstrikamaybe I'm just playing shitters but I don't get what people see in this thing. 90hp isn't that high and 30 damage hitting benched pokemon isn't nearly as impactful as straight up killing the opponents active pokemon. I've had much more trouble with pika+zapdos and even pika+raichu
How many rerolls did it take before you guys got a crown rare?
>>56942390>gay HitmonleeImagine tolerating a Stage 1 for +10HPWhat? Pulling the right energy in a multi-color deck? Just be lucky. You already signed up for coin flipping.
>>56942409i only did 2 rerolls and played normally but like a few days ago i randomly got a crown pika ex and an immersive pika ex from a 10 pull i did
>>56942409not many at all. what took many rerolls was getting not only a crown rare.
>>56942409I still don't have one
is anyone gonna bake or what
Ugh
>>56942288Very good, that's one of the 3 rarest cards in the game
>>5694240920 rerolls to get the 1st, and then the account also got a 2nd later on too
>>56942409Got my first one on my alt, then I got my second on my main, then I got my 3rd on my main. All Charizard. 5 alts, 1 main total.
I hope we can trade for crown rares once that opens up.
>>56942494it'll be rarity-for-rarity and premium players only
>>56942409a few hours rerolling like 3 accounts at the same timesaw a godpack too but it was 1-2 stars so i threw that one out
>>56942409Zero
I still haven't linked my acc to google or nid. If I uninstalled the game all of this would be gone lol
gen6 expansion when
>>56942543Pikachu got shafted hard with how crown and two star look basically the same
>>56942546Give me two of these right now to put in my Charizard deck
>>56942543make a dummy google so you can sell later on if you want to quit
>>56940975>flip to win
>>56942546I'd prefer some Unova kino instead
>>56942568I own like 15 roxie cards i got at a tournament for free once because they used like a billion roxie cards to teach kids how trainer cards work lol also 1 of that full art koffing
>>56942543that's a surprisingly low amount of 2 stars for 600 cards
>>56942624would literally only have 1 if I hadn't gotten a god pack as a wonder pick
>>56942624oh yeah? watch this
>>56942409rerolling is for faggots
>>56942674you're a faggot either way so it couldn't have hurt you
Anyone seen a Mew played in versus here?
>>56942688Never seen a mew in play. Can’t imagine I’m going to anytime soon though
>>56942717*shoots you in your discorder ass face*
new bread you niggas
>>56942658How do I display rows of five?
>>56942751pinch out
>>56942767>>56942767>>56942767
>>56942681reroller spotted
