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anyways time to fight Shelly and either stomp because I get to change the field to something I can take advantage of, or somehow get filtered

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oh right because movesets seem to be fucked up here, I have no lava plume or earth power on my camerupt

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Got Aeris done as thread was being baked
New best girl, I like the custom sprites for her mons too
https://streamable.com/bphxpc

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where there's a rock slide
there's a way

Sorry I've been gone for a bit lads. I had to get my unemployment situation squared away before my 2 week "vacation" ran out. I'm really not sure how the fuck to structure this review but I'm not going to gobble 10+ image slots in this thread for how long this is going to be. This game feels like it's 5 games in one in terms of design ethos or at the bare minimum, the developer(s) shifting gears repeatedly and creating some tonal dissonance that (almost certainly accidentally) creates an experience unlike anything else I've ever played.
>From the start to Empral Town feels like a standard fare pokemon game.
>Empral to Asutra could be its own game.
>Post Badge 7 through 3030 through WT through E4/Champion/Kazak could be its own game.
>Base postgame (barring Prism), and some early EoE stuff could be its own game
>Late vanilla postgame like Prism+Rainbow WT, The Augusta Questline, Calyrex Carrots, Godslayer, Hide and Seek, and Babel all have an entirely different design philosophy as well, which is only natural given that it's mostly made by a different dev who took tremendous inspiration from the Rainbow Quest as a design template.

I'm going to try and talk about each section of the game individually as a general synopsis along with a brief interlude to talk about larger system mechanics as they become relevant because this review will be spaghetti splitting off 30 different ways otherwise, and might still be in spite of that. Reviews that are glorified synopsis' tend to be really gay and lazy, but I really don't know any better way of handling it given how much there is to cover here and I want to try and do justice in conveying just how bizzare this game's blending of themes can be on top of giving a proper sense of scale for just how big and schizophrenic this game is beyond eating a dozen /vp/ threads with the group LP.

>>56961370
>Start to Empral
The adventure starts standard, the game introduces a weird fakemon that gets double XP, early access to ice types, Shadman offering you a regional form of a KANTOOOOOOO mon, a tournament mechanic, and a unique structure to gyms that require beating a miniboss first. Nothing ordinary, but also nothing that feels like it'd be out of place in any other game either. The game's not bland but there's not really a hook until the lake where you fight the mutant pikachu and can get a blink-and-you-miss-it glimpse of Alia. From here on out you'll get really minor breadcrumbs of other plot threads like seeing Celebi vanish in a basement that has the Empyrean glyph on it, but nothing concrete enough to form any sort of reasonable predictions or conclusions; just random data points for you to remember for the next hundred hours as you go.

>>56961380
Around your second badge you're immediately met with the game's first ""selling point""; you can rebreed pokemon to give them permanent stat boosts, but the catch is that this game remembers which pokemon are descended from which (up to 5 degrees separated) and gives you diminishing returns and worse IVs for inbreeding. The game is attempting to be realistic, but oftentimes "realism" in games means the player inherits all the inconvieniences but none of the upsides. For instance, you will never find wild pokemon with >0 GP even though in any sustainable ecosystem it should be happening organically. This translates to needing 2^5 (for best possible odds) of each species you want to hatch a GP5 superchild with. Once you've got some pokemon in the same egg group, you can crossbreed adjacent males onto the new generation females to save time, but even then it's still absurdly tedious. There's some other mechanics in the game that can speed this process up....that also involve randomness (one of them being a fishing game prize that costs money per attempt). This represents a very significant stat boost and the game scales up as your party gets mechanically stronger, so that means that you could theoretically just ignore this mechanic and play normally for the main story, right? We'll get back to this later, but the short answer is no and the long answer is "yes but....." and there's a lot of strings attached if you want to go the entire game without running The Loop.

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>>56961363
>those mon sprites
does she have a BDSM fetish or something

>>56961387
Dooriver's lab teases you with a lot more of what's going on in the game, but still not enough to really do anything with in terms of speculation. After the player is done meeting their future wife at the circus and jumping through fire hoops to save a Bayleaf, they have to enter a tournament for the third badge. I thought this was really cool at the time, but this is the last time the game does anything with this tournament mechanic despite leaving plenty of room to be expanded upon in the future. Your male rival and female rival are still acting like cookie cutter tropes, but the tension between Blitz and the player increases after you dumpster him live on television when leaving Dooriver which comes to a head when he challenges you to a rematch on a bridge a few routes later. The tension here gets unnaturally defused in later encounters and doesn't really go anywhere.

>>56961392
>Empral Town to Badge 7
From here the plot actually begins and the player starts to be able to piece together the bits of the conspiracy they only had breadcrumbs of before and the game overall begins taking itself a bit more seriously. The game gets significantly more scripted from here on out with a larger focus on developing previously established plot branches over the existing formula while also introducing recurring characters like Hessa, Rocksworth, Willie, and Crow (literally Shofu) over the next few areas. The gym captain and vice captain system won't be seen again. Tournaments won't be seen again (until the casino). The player's next immediate objective is given to them in the desert where they encounter the rapidash mutant who runs off to Sylen and begins calling their name for some reason which is never really elaborated on.

>>56961401
This game has a lot of weird such tidbits that you'd think should go somewhere later or mean something important but ultimately end up going nowhere. While this is bad writing and bad focus being applied to the wrong places by most conventional metrics, it has the unintentional effect of making the later parts of the game feel substantially more mysterious than they'd otherwise be and this seeping into the experience for the next hundred hours really shifts the player's mindset when engaging with the myriad of off the wall plot points, foreshadowing, red herrings, and tangents from here on out. After introducing Yara, who the dev apparently decides they're tired of immediately after Sylen, the next few sections are espionage-esque and wouldn't be out of place in Ashen Frost. The game introduces the dating minigame here as well, and while the subplot itself is its own payoff (or letdown in some later cases) with no gameplay benefit, I appreciate the dev having the balls to add something like this to a pokemon fangame given the general attitude surrounding such things amongst a lot of the "fans".

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is it just me or does Cain's sprite look like he has blood coming from his lips
please tell me he hasn't been screwing Victoria
I was hoping he'd take a hint from there being a reason why I don't try to fug her

>>56961410
After Sylen wraps up, the player gets their Mega Ring which feels suspiciously early in terms of badge count (4/8) but also about right in terms of hours played for a game that's not backloading such things. The player also gets access to top-tier megas around this point.

>>56961416
After climbing the mountain, the player climbs a snowy mountain, gets their 5th badge and the game gets certifiably schizophrenic from here. After overcoming some extremely experimental puzzle design where the game outright lies by ommision on some important details of how the puzzle works, one of the ice leaders (Alia) was actually a good ayyylmao and Bill (from KANTOOOOOOOO) joined this cult to find a way to successfully reincarnate a fragment of an evil big ayyylmao who's currently stuck in the Bootes Void so that the reincarnation can either eat the good ayyylmao and gain timetravel powers to go back before it was sealed in the void OR set the stage in the modern day so that a fragment-of-the-fragment will have the means to do if reincarnated in the far future. Unfortunately for Bill, his efforts here amount to only granting every pokefucker's dream by forcefully fusing Willie to his Kirlia for a boss fight. After that the player goes on a near complete non sequitur in Naraku Town that, while interesting and certainly creepy, doesn't actually matter much in the grand scheme of things aside from giving the player their 6th badge and introducing Celebi to the cast who serves to make trying to comprehend this game's causal relations between events significantly harder than it needed to be to convey the concepts Stochastic was trying to communicate with the story. From here, your rivals switch roles; the antagonistic rival is now your buddy and the previously friendly rival now has a stick up her ass and eventually goes on to betray your group.

>>56961423
After getting to Asutra City, the player has access to both all of the game's passive income sources but also the biggest moneysink I've ever seen in a pokemon fangame in the form of card booster packs. Fully finishing this game's card dex at the highest rarity bracket will run you somewhere in the market of 30,000 up to potentially over a 6 figure number of booster packs which cost 400,000 pokedollars each. These cards have gameplay bonuses and soon become borderline mandatory, but the game lets you go through a few more major story beats before the difficulty spike so you can still cope that it's optional for a little bit longer. After having an immediate antagonist established in this kudzu plant of a plotline in Lady Tsukyomi accompanied by a boss fight with a little girl fused with a Braixen, the player finally comes out of a major story scene with more answers than further questions. The remaining questions start forming when the player goes to Factoral Town and the tone, artstyle, vibe and direction of the game shifts yet again. This is a factory staffed by cyborgs that fight you. Not cyborgs that use Steel Types or other thematically appropriate mons to fight you, the cyborg itself fights you and this becomes the standard type of encounter design in a lot of areas for the rest of the game.

>>56961433
This game's boss design (and now non-pokemon fight design) is very simplistic and not in a good or elegant way; they almost always have abilities that simplify strategic options down to boosting, healing, and hitting it for damage with anything else being negated by its ability. The most powerful of these abilities (Godlike) negates every single status move that affects the mon on top of negating any move targeting it with 35 or less base power and blocking all status conditions from being applied by any means, turning the fights with a Godlike mon into a straight damage race. Godlike doesn't show up until a bit later, but in the meantime all of the bosses are 'merely' immune to all status effects and it's important to see all the puzzle pieces forming here. The bosses are designed in a way that punish you for not throwing big numbers at them and the ways to increase your mons' numbers involves lots of grinding via the GP, Shiny, and Card mechanics. Coupled with the fact that you depart to a different region entirely for the brief Factoral Town segment, it further sells how disconnected it is in terms of pretty much everything compared to the rest of the game so far; as if it were from another game entirely and grafted in as a cameo level or something. Finishing that and returning to Asutra then beating Shofu (again) will get the player their 7th badge and here the game shifts in gamefeel quite a lot.

>>56961440
>The end of the main story
From here on out, all of the trainers you find on routes no longer have handcrafted teams. They use a handful of preselected mons they can pick from (similar to how the battle tower works in canon games) and a handful of preselected defeat quotes when you beat them. After going from the rest of the game using handcrafted teams to the factory area with no trainers and only robots, coming back to this is beyond surreal in a way that I don't think Stochastic necessarily intended. The closest comparison I can make to this phenomenon is the feeling when you get your first Dead Internet Theory redpills and evidence of it; all of the trainers are gone, forever replaced by sovlless bots that while not actual robots, are bots LARPing as trainers and every fight on the routes from here to Roarin' Island are just going through the motions rather than feeling like encountering another trainer on their pokemon journey or even a cheeky developer joke in the form of an encounter. This feeling of fakeness is further exacerbated by how relatively normal the waterway and Roarin' Island feel initially; they could be routes and an island in almost any other ambitious pokemon game. The game is a skinwalker wearing the skin of a pokemon game and you caught glimpses of its glamour flaking and got to peer into the incomprehensible terror underneath but now it's trying to convince you that you saw nothing and that everything is fine.

>>56961446
Upon crossing the ocean routes (and optionally doing the 100 trainer tower gauntlet), climbing Roarin' Plateau and reaching the summit, the relative normalcy is interrupted by the eruption of the local volcano. The player teams up with the local gym leader Aeris to infiltrate the facility responsible for causing the eruption. The player learns that Lady Tsukyomi has gone into space to fuse with a pokemon also there's a Dark Celebi fucking things up at various points in time. From here, the player can either battle Aeris before or after going to space and there isn't a clear cut answer of what the intended path is in terms of difficulty curve. Up until this point, all of the game's statboosting mechanics like GP, Shiny hunting, or Cards were optional and while regular trainers (and to a lesser degree some bosses) scaled up to match your team's expected strength, for the most part you could have a relatively balanced playthrough without engaging with this kind of grinding. That all gets thrown out the window here; Aeris has a team of GP5 pokemon on top of heightened BST totals from custom forms making her a difficulty cliff if you're not ready for her. The alternative is hardly any better; confronting Moira and Tsukyomi fused with Rayquaza culminates in a 3 phase fight balanced around either the player using Fusion (specifically Typhlosion) or boosting their teams up with other methods.

>>56961453
Either fight has the potential to wall you even if you've been cruising through the game up to this point. This isn't an outlier either; every boss from here on out is like this. This'd be far more forgivable if the game gradually eased the player into it (or god forbid had randomized GP wild encounter mons) by ramping up trainer and boss difficulty on lower GPs for the past few badges but this 0-to-100 approach to hitting the endgame isn't okay. Rayquomi reveals that her objective isn't directly destroying the world, but that she intends to fly through space to the Bootes Void to wake up the big ayyylmao. The presentation of the buildup to the fight is pretty great and generally makes for a climactic encounter that in any other game would probably be a passable final boss fight...but despite having 8 badges obtained, Empyrean is far from over.

>>56961459
The player gets a brief opportunity to unwind and bond with several members of the cast before the next call to adventure, including even take some of them on dates that work in a similar format to the date that plays out in Sylen city. These dates range from being really heartwarming inclusions to the game (Ashy, Moira), to suspecting the developer is trolling you (Blitz), to knowing for a fact that the developer is either trolling you or is retarded (Aeris, thobeit hers can arbitrarily only be done postgame for some reason but it makes more sense to discuss it here). Ashy's being optional is really weird given that this bit being placed before the section coming up makes some strong implications about some of the characters introduced soon being distant blood relatives to the protagonist. Yara is, inexplicably missing, despite her taking perhaps the most overt interest in the player character out of any of the other charactrers introduced so far. After the player is done getting their peepee wet, they get a message from Celebi and one of the professors that everything has gone to shit and nothing the player has done in this timeline will end up mattering because the groundwork for the Big Ayyylmao's fragment to be reborn in the year 3030 already happened, and from there he'll reunite with his full self and become god of every timeline or something.

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>>56961464
Celebi doesn't just take you to 3030 despite the extreme implied urgency though; you're required to go back to the Deshret Region where you previously explored Factoral Town, go north on definitely-not-a-Nevada-freeway-passing-not-Factoral 51 to a mountain where apparently the seams in space are weaker or something. Upon reaching a special spot in the mountain, the player and a chunk of the current cast are whisked off to the year 3030 for the final section of the main story. 3030's map is surprisingly elaborate filled with lots of familiar-yet-different locales, perhaps a little too familiar for a 1000 year gap. Regardless, in this apocalyptic cyberpunk dystopia, Cyborgs, Pokemon Fusions, and warring militia groups are the common sights all around. The worldbuilding in this section is surprisingly very good at establishing that a lot of the things you previously took for granted in the setting are either outright gone or shells of their former selves.

>>56961470
After fighting your way down a tedious mountain of Lucario furries, the player meets up with the militia group that can help them achieve their goal of stopping the ayyylmao (WT)'s rebirth in this time period and hopefully save the player's dad in the process while also making life less shit for the militia in this time period, the leader of which is strongly implied to be the player's descendent since she comes from Ashy's family tree and the player plaps Ashy in the date prior to departing to 3030. Throughout the journey through the future version of old areas, the player meets another annoying Braixen fusion person as well as potentially gets pity sex from Yara's descendent depending on dialogue choices. When the player gets to Neo Sylen City, it makes quite an impression but surprisingly doesn't go on nearly as long as you'd think given all the work that was clearly put into it compared to say Blackview City's arc in Desolation. After traveling through the sewers and doing a bunch of sub-objectives, the path into The Citadel is open.

>>56961474
The Citadel is the final dungeon in the game and is a giant interconnected 9 floor monstrocity with several minibosses that challenge you periodically on your ascent. It's clearly inspired by a lot of the final dungeon tropes laden in SNES-era RPGs, for better or worse. While navigating it is annoying, it at least offers ample opportunities to create shortcuts for yourself to backtrack through. My biggest criticism of this place is that it has a few electric barriers that only open when you enter the map from a specific door (creating a shortcut) as opposed to pulling a lever like any other barrier, which makes it really easy to get turned around if you were using unopened barriers as breadcrumbs to orient yourself. Of the bosses on the ascent, the most notable one is DEUS who sets your entire party's HP to 1 as the fight starts (and you're not allowed to use bag items). Thematically, DEUS is suffering a power failure caused by malware when you fight it and is drawing energy from your party to try and remain operational and aside from that gimmick, is a pretty normal fight. Aside from being as silly as it sounds, I feel like this is perfectly symptomatic of the wasted potential in this game's boss design. The developer could've done something cool with DEUS where your party is constantly Leech Seeded and DEUS rotates defenses/screens or something to make damaging it very difficult (until a set number of turns pass and it recieves a huge offensive boost) which would play into the thematic gimmick of it being on the backfoot initially.

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>>56961482
At the top of the Citadel, the player confronts the shabbos human responsible for enabling all of this ayyylmao nonsense: Vordev. The fight where the player teams up with their father against Vordev is very easy (relative to everything around it), but is narrative kino. However, Vordev reveals the player is barely too late. WT has just been reborn, and while WT is still an infant, it's still far far outside the party's weight class. The party isn't discouraged and despite WT's psychic barrier incapacitating everyone except for the protagonist, Willie, and Hessa the group confronts it. WT is a 3 phase boss and the first carrier of the Godlike ability talked about a while back, and for all intents and purposes the final challenge of the game's main story and backs up all the hype around how powerful it is in gameplay. All 3 phases share a gigantic 5,000 HP health pool, but all have distinct movesets and gimmicks with some of the most ridiculous custom moves in the game. This fight is certainly tough, but if the player can make it by Rayquomi and DEUS, they can beat this. In that sense, I don't have any criticisms of its overall difficulty. I do, however, have a big issue with the 100% accurate OHKO move it uses in its final phase. The "solution" is either switch a Dark type into it (the move is psychic), a sturdy mon into it, or just accept that it only has 3 PP and can ""only"" kill half your team but it really is the epitome of really lazy game design. I get that the developer didn't want you to sweep WT with only a Fusion that had been snowballing boosts or something, but there were plenty more creative ways to address the problem than this. I'd personally have gone with a 75 BP Knock Off-styled move that doubles in power if the target is holding a Mega Stone or Fusion Stone and de-fuses/mega evolves them when hitting them and ignores all of their stat changes when applying damage (ala Unaware) to solve the same problem in a more balanced way.

>>56961363
gg

>>56961497
The scenes after are celebratory, but also don't make too much sense if you think about them too much. Why didn't Vordev feed Dark Celebi to WT to instantly fulfill its time travel capability victory condition? Why didn't Vordev pull the future hatched WT to his present with Dark Celebi while the party was hiking through the jungle for 3 days? Why didn't Dark Celebi actively interfere with the player at earlier points of the game more actively? Why can't you save the entire future militia cast and can only save the braixen furry? Don't think about these questions too hard because Stochastic sure didn't.
>>56961466
Checked and enjoy the electrorape.

>>56961501
Back in the main timeline, apparently there's still another shard of Zineom (the Big Ayyy) in this timeline, so the crisis isn't completely averted, but the actions of the player breaking the two Celebi-induced paradoxes caused a shift in the timeline so that the version of 3030 you just spent the past 10 hours in never happened nor will happen. The single ontological proof of its existence is the Braixen furry who is now stranded in the present of the main timeline and has more or less resigned himself to be Ashy's pet in a surprisingly (for this game) familial non-sexual way. The player goes to Victory Road and the Pokemon League and does normal Pokemon League stuff that's surprisingly tame for what you'd expect from this game. Each Elite Four member has some custom mon with a silly move or two, but none of this holds a candle to the bosses you've overcome so far. Even the Champion showing you his favorite Growlithe creepypasta shouldn't break your stride at this point in the game, but it does set up some lore hooks for the postgame to explore.

>>56961507
>Early Postgame
Wew lad. Where to even start here? In most fangames the postgame is a few optional dungeons, maybe some silly boss gauntlets or battle facilities, legendary wrapup and dex completion. Empyrean EoE's postgame is very open ended. You can complete the checkmarks on your postgame card in (almost) any order, but the few that have prerequisites tend to be balanced around you being significantly stronger than just finishing the base story and some of the questlines chain together past the completion mark on the card. As you complete various branches of the postgame, you will earn Scrolls that will let you catch certain thematically similar legendary pokemon with their GP set to 5, but you'll also find other extremely overpowered items as you go. The EoE stuff is somewhat inconsistent about what stuff it does or doesn't want you to use in various fights with both a special "Babel banlist" but also a secondary "House of Blue Leaves" banlist (not exclusive to either Babel or House of Blue Leaves btw) that silently nerfs other stuff like Nullifiers or Absorbing Heart to be a resist instead of an immunity.

>>56961369
>>56961414
gg
>>56961495
bro your stallbreaker?

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>>56961516
JZ (the EoE developer) is, to be blunt, very uncreative with a lot of the fight design. Many of these fights have Godlike slapped onto them (on top of an additional ability in some cases) regardless of how much sense it does or doesn't make. Godlike being the supremely overpowered ability of pure Empyreans (WT, Zedra, Apeptosis, Babel's final boss) would be perfectly fine but it's so overused that it both loses all of its narrative weight but also makes many of these fights feel homogenized in how you approach them strategically and there's a few one-size-fits-all solutions that will cover nearly the entire postgame. I'll go more into the exceptions or noteworthy deviations as they come up, but by and large a lot of these fights are very samey in how you're able to reasonably approach them and largely suffer from every wooden block fitting into a few overly large square holes on the bucket, so to speak.

>>56961522
Boss fights aren't all the postgame has to offer though. Two additional dates open up, Aeris and Rocksworth. Aeris' date is notable in that it has split ending paths and somehow Stochastic managed to make both of them terrible. The Rocksworth date on the other hand is a moderately interesting loredump disguised as a shitpost and includes a bossfight against the Shadowglitch which while nothing too notable, does put it above the rest in terms of gameplay. Speaking of gameplay, the puzzles and signposting of where the player needs to go next outside of combat becomes incredibly cryptic when the postgame begins and the hints drop to practically nonexistent the further the player goes. While these can conditionally be a lot of fun (specifically if you've got some buds working at solving the puzzles cooperatively with you who are also blind), under most play conditions these will likely get increasingly unfun as you go, even if you're a fan of a lot of the really old school cryptic point and click adventure puzzle games. Comparing them to old Sierra titles doesn't feel too far off in a lot of cases and in some later ones the hints drop to literal zero; you need to just intuit or stumble into what comes next in the sequence.

>>56961530
The most structured addition to the postgame is Southern Deshret. Taking place on its own map in its own sub-region, this part of Deshret both depowers the player (new party, most of the big number mechanics removed) but also concludes the main story's cliffhanger by providing a decisive end to Zineom across every timeline. Most of the Deshret section is fun and feels like a return to the form of the Sylen City section style feedback loops of gameplay and storytelling using sub-characters except implemented in a way with a lot more branching events that give the player agency to choose their path through the desert. Eventually this leads to confronting Zedra, who is a fragment of Zineom, but after attacking you for the government mandated bossfight and tarnishing his credibility, he insists he's actually the good section and the player is given the choice to either trust him or not. Despite everything he does being beyond sketchy, trusting him leads to the "good" ending that leads to Total Zineom Death after the player climbs a PMD-styled tower and goes through a series of semi-scripted storyline fights all culminating with Arceus restarting the universe and Zedra becoming the Arceus of the new timeline. In the new timeline, everything is the same as the start of the game except your mother is present, heavily implying that the Arceus of the previous timeline was the player's mother which makes a startlingly large amount of sense given some of the other major contextual clues in the story.

>>56961535
Unfortunately, this timeline is too good to last, so you must reload your last save and go back in time to before you fought Zedra and deny his offer after battling him. This will cause him to die and while it does create a temporary solution to the Zineom problem, the game makes it very clear that you didn't solve it permanently. All things considered though, if a player has no interest in the rest of the autism in the postgame, stopping here after resetting the universe is a reasonably satisfying note to end the game on.

>>56961541
There's some other quests including a brief trip into a third (albeit only barely explorable) Baltia region, wrapping up Moira's redemption arc, and the player can travel forward in time to 3030 but it's not the same 3030 since you shifted timelines; the new 3030 is significantly smaller, less interesting, and nobody in this instance has any knowledge of you naturally. After such a large amount of time spent there, I found it a bit disappointing that there's no satisfactory payoff in this timeline even if it is logically consistent with what was established. The player might also find the House of Blue Leaves quest (likely out of sheer happenstance; the NPC to start it is in an unmarked random house in an early game town) and start making progress there. While the mons the bosses use are level 150, the player has enough tools at their disposal to fight them at a level deficit if they put their mind to it and the Servine Teas obtained from the bosses here will make life easier elsewhere. The real gatekeeper for the rest of the postgame, however, is Grimm. Any sense of normalcy ends after this fight as he sends some of the silliest bullshit this game has to offer on a single team and raises your soft level cap to 133 when you beat him.

>>56961551
>The rest of the postgame
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>>56961562
>Conclusion
There's really nothing quite like Empyrean. This game shifts gears so many times and is completely delirious for most of the (very long) runtime. This game has utterly shattered my usual review format because there's really no way to convey just how ridiculous this game is with the normal routine. In spite of all of its questionable writing, design, leaving various things out of focus, and complete incoherence at time, there is still plenty of enjoyment that can be had with this game with the right mentalities. Not a singlular right mentality, but plural because the game shifts gears so many times which further lowers the subset of players that will likely find playing the Edge of Eternity mod from start to finish fun, but if you have a very specific brand of autism you might find this game lifechanging or some profound spiritual experience or something. I rate this game a Shiny Rampardos/10. It does some things very well and a lot of things very badly, but if you're looking to click STAB Head Smash with a huge ATK stat at the cost of everything else, metaphorically, give it a try. No other game so far has prompted me to write a dissertation and spend 30 realtime minutes uploading effortpost segments.

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a shillrat is still a shillrat

>>56961363
GG bro.
>best girl
h-haha I thought so too...
>>56961575
A better game would let you combine them into Pikexodia.

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>>56961569

>>56961585
Fuck Gookmoot for the combination of the 2000 character cap and the 1 minute interval between posts.

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CHADperion shrugged off an ice punch
get fucked bozo

>>56961363
Are you playing Vanilla Mode or is Aeris only locked to GP5 on certain difficulties?

space baby
>>56961582
thx
surely she can't be *that* bad
also were those custom sprites really custom forms for aeris' team? Barely noticed any increased stats or what not

>>56961622
I couldn't get eoe to work so just vanilla

>>56961623
>>56961627
>Vanilla
Makes sense and probably for the best for your sanity longterm kek.
>surely she can't be *that* bad
Just wait until you can date her haha...
It's less a mark against Aeris and more Stochastic shitting in your lap in fairness.

>>56961598
https://rentry.org/

>>56961569
the mother of all reviews kek. was waiting on it and it did not disappoint
in hindsight, saying a quick 'the maingame is serviceable, barring the various amounts of autism that plagues the entire game in general' did it a disservice to how much more could have been said for my own review, but the alternative is this

GG again and I'd be surprised if there's any other game that triggers your autism this badly it will probably be Empire if/when you ever play through it, haha...

>>56961098
nigger moved to another board for his playthroughs, i forget which. it's not /v/ doe, either /vst/ or /vrpg/ or one of the meme boards gookmoot made
>>56961072
how it works is that if you give up your ability to save, depending on your responses during the dream part and by doing all sidequests in flegetont you get a chance at obtaining one of four possible pseudo legend evolution stones - baxcalibur, tropius, hydreigon, and something else i can't remember
if you also pick 'soren faith' at some point, you can get the tentacruel psuedo evo item in the swamp lake depths

also salamence is no longer a pseudo in empire, it got deducted 30 points from its BST kek

accepting 3 name suggestions for my applins that I'm turning into each of the 3 split evolutions it has

>>56961569
great review. it was a perfect storm of an lp, hopefully the stars never align again because even with a group I can't imagine doing it all again. did it feel like you're supposed to do house of leaves for some tea before fighting grimm, even though you're essentially wasting tea since grimm maxes out your level cap so you'd only get to 133?

>>56961659
gushin granny

>>56961648
I frequent /vst/ and I've never seen any of his threads there so that leaves /vrpg/ as the only option you named left, and I don't see any "/vrpg/ plays" threads on /vrpg/, either on the catalog or in the archive

>>56961675
named
need 2 more

>>56961648
>>56961668
Thanks bros. Even after playing all that, even after writing all that I'm still not entirely sure if I like Empyrean as a game. I think I more like the concept of Empyrean from a distance but when I zoom in on the details, it's both incoherent and hideous in many ways.
>Empire
Empire would probably get me taking the piss more than anything. Empyrean is a weird crossroads between sincere yet also not pretentious in its insanity whereas Empire is far more inclined to sniff its own farts, so to speak, which would probably keep me far less engaged with it than Empyrean did.
I could probably pad out a 2000 character block in the post with NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER just for the PP drain swamp teebeedesu.
>>56961659
Voreoboros

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Aww shit

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>>56961702
one more

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well i have the bad decision of playing through yang again which i'm not really sure i want to do (apparently postgame is just not even being worked on, which is cool)
or, i could do the bad decision of trying out newer games to see if there's any gemmies in the rough

i'll go latter for now

this is
>Pokemon Starlite Heaven Chapter 1 From Unsavoury Beginnings To New Horizons.
doesn't look too promising, but it is a rebornlike, so maybe there'll be something here...?

>>56961668
you're not 'supposed' to since the house of blue leaves is EoE content and grimm is regular postgame
it was at least 'nice' of the EoE content to superbuff you for shit like pr*sm or gr*mm
>>56961702
>Empyrean is a weird crossroads between sincere yet also not pretentious in its insanity whereas Empire is far more inclined to sniff its own farts
entirely fair
i do still in a very sick, twisted way recommend empire just on the basis of watching reactions to the flaming traincrash and i know you in particular would find some entertainment in how the game handles...its political views....but maybe should at least try to play something quality first after empyrean kek

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leader of a gang by the way

>>56961569
very enjoyable read. nice one

>>56961756
Oh boy time for another game of "guess what games these sprites were shitbashed from"!!!1!!!

>>56961756
Empire is something I want to experience at some point especially for the dialogue, but I might just cheat my ass off through since I'm not really interested in playing through Octavius' take on Rebornlike gameplay from all you guys have shown. It probably isn't anywhere near as "hard" as something like Reborn Allgen AG +15% enemy levels but it looks annoying in a way I don't see myself having the drive to engage with for 50+ hours or however long the game is now.
>play something quality first
Any recommendations? I'm still waiting on Elena's birdsexkino but until that releases I don't have much in my backlog.
>>56961762
Thanks bro.

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wew, that's potentialwife% speedrun WR i think

rate/10

>>56961762
ah yes
>the trainer gets hurt
>therefore they're somehow unable to battle with the pokemon they're controlling via voice commands
also spoilery territory but this is complete bullshit based on what you find out later
>>56961785
well top 3 are from rejuv and bottom right is the niggress with weird hair in reborn
i don't recall bottom left

>>56961789
you could play pokemon bizarre. unlike oxidized gold it is not buggy as hell, it's also spainkino

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why does it give a nonbinary folx option and then asks you for your gender again

>>56961789
have you ever played realidea system, elena's first game?

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vehicle (train) destroyed in intro: check
hopefully they'll put it in a cutscene next time

>typhlosion
it's over.

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we're, uh, real creative here, aren't we...

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is this game really just going to be
>feed the script of every rebornian game into an AI
>generate game

>>56961762
welcome to Aevium where something in the water is bringing down the average IQ by a lot

>>56961795
too flat
>>56961810
i'm gonna skip the extra steps and not include that shit in whatever projects I make
there's no way to include it without it feeling shoehorned
and really the only people who genuinely give a shit are a very loud and very small minority compared to normal people
(also makes writing way easier and more consistent)

also I'm pretty sure earlier versions of reborn did have NB character options but didn't additionally ask for pronouns so if you picked a male your character would be referred to with male pronouns, if you picked a female you would be referred to with female pronouns, etc

>>56961826
attack of the sudden font color change

>>56961834
did they at least copy the good parts of rejuvenation (anything to do with cute redheads and/or tomboys)

>>56961795
SEX/10
>>56961810
>have you ever played realidea system, elena's first game?
I've had this game downloaded and it's apparently existed in a blindspot in my memory for the past half year kek.
>nonbinary option
I'm holding out for the game that has a NB option but if you select it, the game converts the current hexidecimal values of 3 commonly used game variables into a nonsense text string and amends -kin to the end of it for your pronoun.
>>56961801
I'll add it to the list. Download link?

>>56961856
https://www.mediafire.com/file/lox59f4nubxflw6/Pokemon_Bizarre_ENGLISH.zip/file

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oh i can now see why there's a typhlosion involved in this game

>>56961850
>did they at least copy the good parts of rejuvenation
well, we already have walmart tesla, so....

>>56961861
Thanks bro
>>56961869
>Teenagers just casually opening with their age
Most realistic discord dialogue/10

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>>56961856
>I'm holding out for the game that has a NB option but if you select it, the game converts the current hexidecimal values of 3 commonly used game variables into a nonsense text string and amends -kin to the end of it for your pronoun.
Gemmy but I don't think it'd be worth the effort to impliment
besides with just not having a NB option is gonna make writing/formatting events easier
>>56961869
kek
does not!Tesla have some nice tits for using as pillows when cuddling or did they forget to copy over that detail

>>56961875
IT'S DA COOOOORD!!!!!!!
>meant to upload that file with this separate post
Oh fuck I made the classic blunder of fumbling uploads, you WILL listen to my reverse psychology attempts to not pay attention to a mistake I'm making a comment about

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uuuuuh HEY GUYS LOOK AT ME EVOLVING SOME SHITMON INTO A HOPEFULLY SLIGHTLY LESS SHIT MON
also this has made at least 2 mons in my box obsolete, like my wormadam (which doesn't even get ground stab by level up)

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this game smells like garchomp propaganda. flygonkeks in shambles

i picked grasscade again as starter, and that's probably how it's going to be from now on for these newer demos where it's very clear 99% of devs have no fucking clue how to balance anything up to the first gym (especially after the fucking fallout game, jesus CHRIST). hone claws at level 10 with the speed it gets as floragato is just too useful

>>56961856
hope you enjoy it. it's definitely not as good as reminiscia overall i think, but it's still extremely charming and holds the honor of being the first game played here (other than clover i guess) that most everybody could agree unanimously was actually pretty great with few caveats
>>56961875
the person making this game apparently is 23 so i don't know why you wouldn't just make your characters that to begin with kek.

>>56961910
how many rebornlikes will we have to go through until I find one with a competent spriter

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is the rival talking to me from the other side of the building, is that why she's not showing up? damn bitch is loud

>don't even know this guy's name and he's already le trauma dumping me
very narcissistic and boundary crossing, ugh

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>>56961935
i don't even...know what happened, it seemed like you were supposed to have a rival fight at the beginning there, then it seemed like it glitched out?

then the first trainer i run into uses a level 5 scorbunny with ember and kills me

great start

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fraxure time!
>>56961935
>all these grammar fuckups
either an ESL made this, the US school system really sucks as much as I remember it, or I think the creator is lying about xhis age

also looks like a number of the trainers are missing the 'player_notice' script or whatever it's called

>>56961964
does seem that way, there's a role for some guy called BlueStarSonic (English Critiquer)

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>Archer's shark ice fangs my torterra, freezes, and gets pwned by leaf blade thanks to a same turn defrost
torterraGODS won
>>56961980
the correct term is "critic"
"critiquer" isn't a word

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nice skull bash nerd
it'd be a shame if my skrelp had toxic + protect

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oh btw this one still needs a name

>>56962007
wait fuck I forgot that moveset updates are per pokemon ID even if you duplicate one
i gotta inject a new dripplin and flapple real quick instead of doing the lazy duplication method

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>no repels
>tons of grass
>not really clear where to even go
very fun start

>i-is t-that...a picnic with vivillon nearby? OH MY JANICHROMA THIS IS JUST LIKE THE GREATEST GOAT GAME OF ALL TIME

>fire punch buneary that gets buffed by the field
....you know, maybe heading back to yang isn't a bad idea after all

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>two good STAB moves and dragon dance
nice
>>56962051
why is fire punch buffed in what seems to be just an ordinary park

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>i get to walk back still without any repels
>no healing point nearby
hmm...

>check forward
>this is (probably) the first gym
you know what, i honestly think i might be good here

hopefully the dev will, eventually, learn how to get better with rpgmaker, when you're doing things like failing to have sprites of important characters show up for cutscenes literally 5 minutes in that's just not a good sign.
and also, hopefully, get off the reborn/rejuv juice, there's other games to take inspiration from

>>56962065
it's grassy terrain, fire moves (usually) get buffed on that

time to have 'unofficial reborn multi-LP'...again...i guess
christ

>>56962091
you could play mauve, the complete 16 gym game from france

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>>56962091
is it based on rejuv grassy terrain or reborn grassy terrain
because in the former's case you have to set it on fire and switch to burning field to boost all fire moves
>time to have 'unofficial reborn multi-LP'...again...i guess
Well I guess it makes for a better archive heading than "post-empyrean filler threads)

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ANOTHER SACRIFICE TO THE ID GODS
Natural shinies: 8

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Whiteout counter: 9
ow

>>56962102
haha...perhaps, but the game basically looks like another fire ash as far as i can tell
at least with yang i can suffer in a more interesting way

anyway, i think my issue with yang this last time was that the run i was doing (15 preselected mons) didn't really sound that interesting for lategame

i'll probably do 115% levels + dualtype, it's simple but '''fun''' desu ne

>>56962114
nah, all 3 major rebornlikes boost all fire moves on grassy, just for grounded pokemon. it's just that reborn allows you to transition it to a burning field easily

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pwned

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ledian using reflect helped with taking hits, but this whole battle was noctowl and fearow beating him up with pansear finishing off lucario

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>Ice/Ghost
it's all over, but the crying....

i'll only post gym leaders until florinia or so unless one of the other niggers proves to be annoying

>>56962188
>>56962190
gg

>>56962201
pros:
you get to use sneedshrew
cons:
you're trying to do a dualtype run of a kaizo hack

>the singular pokemon i get to catch in this section is either my starter and delibird
>the rest of the ice/ghost mons are stuck as starter choices
woah fucking epic my guy

i'm just debugging it all in, suck my dick

>>56962218
*with a level increase of 115% to all trainers

>>56962226
if dubs give yourself a drakloak

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Pulse Fuk(ed) missed with muddy water 3 times in a row
Point and laugh

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Another sacrifice to the ID gods
Natural shinies: 9

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And another sacrifice
Natural shinies: 10

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>>56961569
great read, like bunken said, this lp was basically a perfect storm kek, even if the game isn't good, these threads combined with the leaks made the most of it anyway imo
>>56961598
>>56961645
Decided to go ahead and do this so it's all in one place kek
https://rentry.org/EdgeOfAutism
>>56961696
It's not too hard to look up his trip desu, last game he played was a little over a month ago from the looks of it
>>56961956
kek
>>56962201
At least you'll get to make use of the early Dragapult kek

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I just accidentally mistook a trainer battle for a wild battle, oops
not counting this as a whiteout, I'm saving that tally for actual skill issues
>>56962388
oh
just wondering, has anyone from here interacted with him while I was gone
>early dragapult
getting an OU mon before the endgame is considered very early by kaizoshit standards (which derive like half of their difficulty from neutering the player's options, the other half comes from gigabuffing the enemy)

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this cave has a fuck ton of mineable rocks
however the only things of interest left are plates
unfortunately the kalos fossils don't appear in mineable rocks (so I have to wait until later to get tyrunt)

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yet another sacrifice for the ID gods
Natural shinies: 11

>>56962413
Not to my knowledge
>>early dragapult
Well it's not THAT early (14 badges instead of 16), but it did btfo the dragon's den boss pre tania iirc
I don't remember it doing too much more before it was "legal" though, simply because of how little there is and the matchup vs Tania/Amaria isn't good

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oh apparently there's this chick training all the way down here that's willing to teach my mons flame burst
I guess my nidoking is a mixed attacker now

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ez

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I found Jan's bull

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and somehow fucked up this fight
Whiteout counter: 10

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Whiteouts: 13

https://streamable.com/ytskd0

pretty comparable to the last julia actually, in terms of terribleness

highlights include me seething about 95% snarl always hitting through snow cloak and lowered accuracy while i would frequently miss 85% mud bombs, me breaking down and finally doing 'norng' because the pawmo decided to have superspace as an ability and would not stop flinching or fully paralyzing drifloon, and me seething about how a fucking chinchou with 0 speed investment was still outspeeding half my mons
i'll probably turn off norng now though, only will use it if i'm getting severely sneeded by it (though i guess for fights like hardy it'll be part of the 'point' to leave it off)

i'm sure it won't get any easier

>>56962388
i was going to say 'heh, a big strong chad like me doesn't need it' but honestly after that i'm taking what i get kek

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>>56962589
>95% snarl
hahahaha

>most of the pokemon i can add to my roster for this next section are water types
kys

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turns out that I can perish song Soilaris's Garchomp without breaking dualtype restrictions
with Altaria

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I better be able to catch a deoxys here
>>56962666
you sly devil you

>>56962589
kek, gg

>>56962589
gg. what does norng do

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they said a legendary but kingambit might as well be one
>>56962589
gg

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new worst fight of the run just dropped

well it wasn't as bad as julia, but it was 10x as worse as the rest of the fights before it, and the only one i felt i should record

Victoria: 15
Cain: 18
Tangrowth: first try lmoa
This assfaggot: 28

https://streamable.com/niyxew

pawmo is really quickly becoming one of my most reviled mons
i can only imagine how samson will go

>>56962810
>>56962748
>>56962724
thanks
>what does norng do
gives (i presume all sides) an accuracy buff, turns off all secondary effects of moves, unboosted crits can't happen, sleep always lasts 2 turns
i assume there's limits to some of this, like i assume charge beam and such are effectively 100%, and that zap cannon doesn't have boosted accuracy, but i'm not sure

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nice name
>>56962837
gg
do enemy pawmots get revival blessing? prepare blood pressure meds if they do lmao

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i love having to turn on cheat engine because encounter rates for anything I actually want are super low
also shellos are a time-based encounter because fuck anyone with alternative sleep schedules I guess

>>56962847
thanks
>do enemy pawmots get revival blessing
no, thankfully it's not in the game (it will be in 13.5 doe)
it's moreso the fact they're fast fighting types that sneed my icefags and then my ghostfags are weak to electric as well

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cute shiny

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where is Taka's chatot?
more importantly, how did this eevee only take like 30%-something damage from a sheer force sneedoking's earth power

why the fuck does gabite get earth eater
because some random grunt has a gabite that just absorbed two attempted Digs from my sneedslash

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you ever hear about the multiversal absol theory
because I think something's gonna get really shitty in someone else's playthrough right about now
>have music player on shuffle
>blaze of iris starts playing
shit's gonna go down

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>he gets a full team and his garchomp isn't ridiculously overleveled
okay then

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probably gonna lose this attempt because I brought counters to the wrong type of fight
but that ninetales frontsprite doesn't look right

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Oh shit there's the thing I need chip damage for
Should maybe have not gotten rid of toxic spikes on sneedoking

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Whiteout counter: 11
gonna try this again with a better suited team comp

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>stealth rocks did no damage
Uh
Fuck!!!
That was literally my only way of dealing non-direct damage

Counting this as a whiteout since this fight isn't winnable
Whiteout counter: 12

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jihadseahorse

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fuck your steam engine +6 speed

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>>56963000
trips of victory

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And now for a cherished /vp/ plays pokemon reborn tradition
>Error: Duplicate file exists. here. (link to OP)
I played myself
just look at >>56961341

in the meantime have a picture of something that deserves to get dragon dance

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Whiteouts: 43

won this one pretty easily i think, wasn't close at all

https://streamable.com/eqbadh

>turn on norng again
>i still miss a billion times to the lead cacturne's sand veil + icy wind not being perfectly accurate
apparently, at <4 badges, you only get a 1.1x accuracy boost

>>56963002
gg but don't spam every image of your fight man

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i have a really cool team
>>56963025
>whiteouts: 43
is this for that fight alone or in total
because adding up all the previous per-trainer whiteouts you mentioned gave 61

>>56963033
it's always the total tally for the playthrough, that was 15 losses (i didn't count the times i had to reset to that fucking cacturne though)

>>56963040
oh i thought those were per-trainer lol

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>could just call all of his grunts off
>shut the thing down
>claim that heather (you know, the local e4 member in the area) turned it off
>doesn't do so because...he just can't, okay?

>>56963053
i do wonder if the discordxisters who read our threads think the same when they read those numbers, and think (especially for the worse kaizoshit hacks) we wipe out hundreds of times to fights they consider easy
just to justify the 'they're le bad!!!! therefore everything they say is le wrong!!!!' mentality

jk they tap out early the minute someone they read someone calling them trannies

>>56963115
Maybe that NPC right outside the grand hall who was performing studies on the water was onto something
>i do wonder if the discordxisters who read our threads think the same when they read those numbers, and think (especially for the worse kaizoshit hacks) we wipe out hundreds of times to fights they consider easy
>just to justify the 'they're le bad!!!! therefore everything they say is le wrong!!!!' mentality
unlike them we wear our (real or percieved) skill issues as badges of honor instead of selectively only displaying our victories and claiming to be so good at the game (just ignore the dozens of whiteouts to overtuned kaizoshit the average kaizofag don't show you, you WILL take xheir word for it, remember, big brother says that what you see is all there is, and he knows what to show you!)

ok maybe saying "big brother" is unfitting for that joke because that's supporting le patriarchy or however the hugbox is circlejerked

>>56963115
his dad might love him if he grows a spine so of course he never does

>>56961341
/chuds/ play whatever
Last Time:
>I, Elon Chud, decide to play through a non-kaizo mod of Reborn after experiencing Yang's unique NPC only custom moves
>Chud battles through the difficult Kaizo Reborn Yang
>Chud attempts to do a fire/rock dualtype run of a kaizo mod and gets surprised when the difficulty scales exponentially (so he cheats like a chud)
>90% of /chud/ tripcodes give up and lower the difficulty after accepting defeat
>Chud plays the new Empire update and questions why anyone would consider it balanced enough to release
>Chud still continues playing Vanguard and faces difficulties because everything is retyped
>Chud continues Empyrean
>Some natural shinies get sacrificed to the ID gods; and several quads GETs are obtained
>And you, the chud, just lost The Game
>Pretty much just business as usual

>What is this?
This is a thread where a bunch of chuds come together and play entertaining fangames. Chuds of all shapes and sizes are welcome!
>How do I join?
Just be a chud.

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>Rocky Payload’s boost is 2x, rather than 1.5x
>Float Stone increases the Speed of the holder by 1.2x, or 1.5x if the holder is a Rock-type or has the ability Rocky Payload
great field, glad to see what yang's done with it. bombirdier outspeeds and oneshots everything i own and required at least half a team of ice sharders to take down

https://streamable.com/cgkeri

this was the fight where the enemy is actually mostly weak to ice too, that won't be the case for h*rdy

Whiteouts: 51

>>56963140
it's moreso the fact that they find doing the exact same inputs over countless attempts and hoping for better rng or slighly adjusting variables to win, actually enjoyable
the enjoyable part should come from sharing this bullshit with others and shitposting about it, not just the act of doing it kek
>>56963174
umm bigot he does grow a spine, he burns down his father's library that holds vast amounts of information and history for the region because he had a bad childhood there

>>56963174
>>56963228
has anyone made a soijak of taka
since he has the low testosterone of one

>>56963333
get soon

>>56963228
why is barely anything evolved
is something screwing with evolution levels

it’s over

>>56963328
sugg here this means rhyperior btw

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why must i play as CHUD trying to stop a beautiful gender change operation

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Return of the robots
Still mad I couldn't get one of my own in factorial town but walking in space is neat

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Funny as hell

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Oh shit she really did betray
I wonder how she even heard about Sukuyomi though let alone all this schizoshit

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Oh boy

what do you guys think the odds are of successfully convincing Chris-Chan to play Reborn

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Nah i'd seed
The instant I come across a fire type I lose
https://streamable.com/i1osln

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Didn't the guy at the lake have a full head of hair?
God janin stops this guy from tazing us but even then it's 3 on 1 and moira even has her full team - valkyreon so a taser isn't gonna do much bud

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Now celebi black shows up to save their day
I was about to ask if it counted as win the battle lose the war but crow shows up to cockblock it

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Oh shit

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How does /vp/ plays like their eggs?

>>56961341
>>And you just lost The Game
damn it

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It just rolled away
Pretty tanky for an egg, there's probably a hatched form i have to beat so i'll upload both vids at once after i beat that

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I thought their big boss was WT or whoever the snow cultists were looking for
or are there 2 clans or something?

I cant sneed in space its so over

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ack
no leech seed but hail still works, though blizzard won't do much
I can't curse it since I couldn't curse the egg and crobat gets fucked by any of its attack so i can't haze away armor
I'll sleep on it and figure something out tomorrow

>>56963228
Didnt see this, gg

>>56961363
GG.
>>56961569
GG and good review. I wished Empyrean didn't give me a sense of vertigo due to just how much there is to it, because I do miss some of the things in it, but then I also remember the fucking dogshit mechanics like cards and GP and I'm immediately discouraged from going back and the total tonal dissonance that plagues the game throughout equally doesn't help.
>>56961702
Empire is a complete fucking trainwreck and if you're like me and like reading every bit of dialogue, your sanity is going to hit the fucking gutter really soon, the saddest part is that the game starts out relatively interesting and for the first 3 chapters there's a fairly decent narrative being strung throughout, but as soon as you reach Toliman the game drops what little quality and sense of good design it had left down the shitter so hard that it falls like a meteor, but you don't feel it right away, it's the frog being boiled slowly type of situation.

>>56963228
GG as well.

>You get the TM for Scary Face by watching the death screens on the post 41%'s gym
That's kinda funny, probably one of the few props I'll give to Yang ever.

This is probably, without much of any doubt, one of the worst fucking fights I have ever had the displeasure of getting through and I can't even get Houndoom to make things theoretically easier.
Shade just gets a fucking better version of Recover, that gives his Pokemon a +1 in special defense and brings back his field, Infiltrator for no good reason practically doubles the damage on Chandelure because fuck you, free levitate on switch-in for all his Pokemon, Gengar gets to fire 100% accurate Zap Cannons because again, FUCK YOU, Corsola's eviolite boost is not going away after I steal said eviolite, the AI input reads very blatantly, illegal EVs out the ass, the field outright will NEVER give you high rolls when you use Nature Power or Discharge, nor will it EVER paralyze opposing Pokemon because FUCK THE PLAYER. Lovely.

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For the sake of fairness and despite me loathing to admit it, there are some blatant gaps in the composition of the post 41%'s team, however I did not have the tools to abuse said gaps so I did what I do best, bash my head against a wall until I make way.

>>56962837
>>56963025
>>56963228
>>56963516
gg

>>56964266
gg, sorry for missing it

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>They randomly gave every single fucking meteornigger in this base Water types
>>56964348
Thanks bro.

I'll be on a trip to Europe the following week, taking a break from mons. Might or might not have something to do with Empire PTSD?

Back, went to make lunch.
>Eviolite Machop getting burnt at the end of the turn
>Zen Darmanitan set immediately going to shit because the absolutely retarded tranny forgot to change the ability so it immediately went back to being base Darmanitan
>>56964424
Hopefully it goes well, best of luck bruv.

>Echoed Voice is completely useless against Pokemon with Storm Drain
????????????????????????

>Rock Slide misses 7 times in a roll
>Archer gets 9 crits in a roll
>Every single hit from Hurricane confuses
>Every hit from Scald always burns
>Bullshit field mechanic changes that only exist for hyper specific scenarios JUST to prevent the player from getting an edge with certain Pokemon

>Sharpedo has a tanga berry just so in the hyper specific scenario the player had obtained a Dwebble via password (my case), it can just barely manage to survive an X-Scissor from full health, which is just enough to completely rape my chances of victory
I am so fucking mad.

>>56964714
chuds stay losing

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MY HOUNDOOM, NOW, PLEASE AND THANK YOU.

>>56962188
>>56962190
>>56963002
>>56963228
>>56964835
GG lads.

>>56964068
Thanks bro.
>The game that starts out good and shits itself repeatedly after the intro
Many such cases.
>>56962388
Thanks bro
>Rentry
I'm honored. Thanks again.

A few of the themes I dug up to put over the Reborn ones didn't work well at all like putting Nemona's theme over the trainer battle one because now there's a fuckload of incredibly tough and thematically tense battles that have this incredibly cheery and chirpy song playing in the background. But others like the outskirt stand's theme for the obsidian ward or Jovi's lament over aphophyll's theme fit so good that it's perfect.
>>56964882
Thanks bro.

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I-IS T-THAT A R-REJUVENATION BATTLE BACKGROUND?! AAAAAAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEEE SHUT IT DOWN, SHUT IT DOWN, SHUT IT DOWN!!!!!!!!

I am getting pissed to the point of trying my luck with coding just to remove focus sashes from the game.

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Delphox once more proves to be an invaluable team member due to how fortuitous stealing items can be during these fights, Cal is so much worse than Victoria despite Vickie having a fucking Urshifu, burning field is just complete fucking bullshit and Cal gets every fucking tool imaginable to counter anything that could even remotely threaten his Fire types (except CHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARIIIIIZAAAAAAAAAAARD funnily enough which was left almost untounched kek).

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No way fag.

>>56965558
Because Charizard is per-
>Unevolved rock type used rock throw!

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>they're playing Reborn AGAIN
You people are masochists I swear

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>Give Talonflame telluric seed
>Click Acrobatics
>Win for free
OH NONONO KAIZOXISTERS.......
>>56965580
CHADzardbros.........
>>56965605
We're playing a horrid kaizo version of Reborn, the pain and misery is an acquired taste.

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https://streamable.com/bridit

>the corrosive mist version of this fight feels basically impossible
>sealeo is illegal to have at this point on the newer versions because pickup does not give rare candies but i'm sick of having zero fucking ice evolved mons
>final 3 turns of the fight come down to delibird landing 3 attacks through hustle (not guaranteed by norng), you're free to guess how many tries it took

don't really know how long I can keep this up. Whiteouts: 72. at least i can get some actual evolutions now

>>56964882
>>56964342
>>56964086
>>56963706
thanks lads, i forgot how miserable this fucking mod could be
>>56963603
the best way to approach the fight i think is rocky helmet
if you're on normal difficulty, you probably don't need GP/card cancer
>>56964266
>>56964835
>>56965638
and G fucking G as well

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is it really this easy to have a casual conversation from the top of a 6 story building to the ground

>cal is called canis minor
oh no no no...

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>if this was sneedvester, he probably would've fallen for this

I forgot how absolutely fucking atrocious the azurine island theme was, also I'm noticing some item placements got fucked with, especially rare candies, which weirdly enough had their distribution gutted to shit.
>>56965662
Thanks bro and GG to ya, that fight was abysmally shit even on normal from what little I recall from last time.
>>56965716
Holy kek.

>>56963025
>>56963228
>>56963516
>>56964266
>>56965558
>>56965662
ggs
>>56965605
haha...

>>56965605
To be fair Reborn isn't nearly as bad as some of the other shit we've replayed more than once, and I'm actually kinda having fun with it so far
At least if you're not playing a kaizo mod in which case it's all soulless suffering

>>56965605
They are chuds who purposely play games on custom mod level difficulty with arbitrary restrictions like monotype runs so they can use ad hominem attacks on the fangames and their creators.
None of them can make their own game so they channel their rage into disgusting behavior.

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Not too bad
Whiteouts: 139
https://streamable.com/t2xzmd
Would've been easier if I had gotten Escavalier I assume kek, I should do that

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
DON'T YOU KNOW HOW LE BROKEN TR*CK ROOM IS!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?! HOW COULD YOU LET THE PL*YER ACCESS IT THIS EARLY FOR JUST GOING THROUGH THE GAME!?!?!?! IT HAS TO EITHER BE AVAILABLE RIGHT AFTER THE FINAL BOSS OR NOT AVAILABLE AT ALL!!!!!!

>>56965885
No arrow therefore you say this and look like this

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Even despite all the dumb shit this game pulls, this somehow annoys me
I'm not even sure WHY it pisses me off, it's nothing compared to all the other shit you have to deal with

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this actually wasn't so bad, but it still took 20+ minutes of attempts and is a pretty good preview for how the rest of the tagnigger fights in the rest of this will go. thankfully, THANKFULLY percentlevel buffs partners as well

https://streamable.com/qyxsj4

i might have to treat this like bunken is treating lawds, bitesized chunks, another week of this sounds ass

>>56965744
>>56965853
thanks, and GG yourself, haha..
i'm surprised they still give out trick room
>MY EPIC FREE PERMANENT TRICK ROOMERINO AGAINST ME
haha...wait until h*rdy, i suppose..

I went to get a cup of coffee and came back to trying the fucking dogshit double gank on the swamp and I am pretty lost on what I could do, Vileplume has a Flying resist berry, so I can't nuke it easily, Empoleon on swamp with Competitive is as broken as it gets, as demonstrated by Rejuvenation and I don't have a single Pokemon that threatens it, this is fucking atrocious and I have no clue what I could try here.
>>56965744
Thanks bro.
>>56965853
GG and good to know Radomus is still Trick Room based considering how abysmally slow most of my team is.

>>56965946
oh also whiteouts: 79

Didn't Yang have a dogshit faggot stupid fucking gay input reader than prevented the player from using Wide Guard? Because I'm pretty much out of options here.

>>56966001
you can use it once, then the AI starts input reading you afterwards

here's a monofire intense playthrough of 2.3, if it helps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pkVGs6mJLc&list=PL2ehCNNTWqzWAIlMxMHs2ml2-lPPpFHte&index=6&t=39m29s

>>56966001
it's kaizoshit you don't have to ask if there's input reading bullshit
in fact you can probably save yourself a lot of time by not going out of your way to ask if a kaizo mod has suspicious AI behavior, illegal EVs, strong items you don't get access to, or other rigged bullshit because the answer is probably yes anyways

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hm
>>56965946
>>56965951
Thanks bros

>>56966022
Larvesta was my eggmon, so no Ninetails and Delphox was my starter, so no Blaziken, the issue is the swamp field pretty much revolves Ground, Fire and many other moves from the equation and I don't have a Fighting type, Vileplume is spamming Muddy Water (not even through Nature Power because the tranny who made Yang is beyond incompetent and idiotic), I'll give it a few more tries and see if I can figure out something, also, just tested it, the AI will not let you use Wide Guard.

>You can skip the sanctum's st*alth section, but not the actual puzzle afterwards
why

Yup, I tested it thoroughly and the AI will straight up not use spread moves if you click Wide Guard, WHAT A LOVELY FUCKING MOD.

>Ace sets webs T1
>>>>>If your mons are slower than the mon that's tied to the effect, the webs proc on T1
epic

>>56966059
>>56966081
no fun allowed chud

>Finally get past the first two mons
>Immediately come across 2 Lycanroc with illegal speed EVs and clear amulets
>There's also a fucking Defiant Passimian as well that gets boosts right as it enters the field instead of at the end of the turn
SIIIIIIIIIIIIIGH.........

>>56966134
lycanrocs are base 82/110/112 speed (midnight/dusk/base) respectively
it's less to do with muh illegal EVs and more the fact that they're just naturally fast

>>56966144
Talonflame is 126, it's still getting outsped even if it's jolly.

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Absolute......fucking.......dogshit.....
I'm taking a break, I got a bunch of shit I need to get done in the farm before it gets dark.

>>56966162
use the team exporter or i'm assuming you're just using dogshit sets

>>56964835
>>56965558
>>56965662
>>56965853
>>56965946
>>56966215
gg

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got sneeded
Whiteout counter: 13

>>56966250
Thanks
>>56966162
>>56966215
>>56966244
GG Orevald
The problem is that since yang is made by the same type of "human" that made Madame Moto, how the EV allocation on Intense works is that you don't get all 510 EVs available from the start, and you're also capped at a certain small value per stat as well. So the Talonflame is not running 252 speed EVs
It's really fucking annoying and the reason I'm probably putting this aside for now. At least last time we played Yang you could just use debug to fix your EVs but the allocation deliberately fucking you over even further and making earlygame (which was pretty manageable in earlier versions) a slog on par with lategame is miserable

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>mega sableye before you can get megas normally
>ferrothorn
>meowscarada
>delphox
>galarian weezing
>hisuian zoroark
oh boy

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kys

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kek

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Motherfucker
Whiteout counter: 14

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Whiteouts: 140
https://streamable.com/8heboc
Forgot to give hatt the amplifield rock, but whatever, it didn't matter kek
>>56966250
Thanks
>>56966344
Yeah that was why I put aside the Water/Fighting run I did a long while back kek, the enemies EV's didn't take the allocated EV count into consideration and had 252/252 instead of whatever their limit was supposed to be
Not sure if it ever got fixed, or maybe the bug got turned into a feature, I don't remember kek

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second attempt went much better when leading with golem + nidoking

>Gives a sinistea evo item
Why kek

>>56966434
GG. i really cannot imagine this game if they ever get rid of trick room kek, it's going to be so shit
but also no yeah according to the PBS all enemies continue to have 252 EVs while you get jackshit for earlygame. i can continue and i might later but not now

>>56966434
gg

>>56966459
Thanks bros
>but also no yeah according to the PBS all enemies continue to have 252 EVs while you get jackshit for earlygame.
To my knowledge it's supposed to look like that, but it's also supposed to lower the evs to the "legal" value when it loads the trainer battle, I don't know if that got fixed though

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now that I'm done evolving everything here's an obligatory image of some mass evolving

although you only really have to care about the dragalge and haxorus

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>Get a double rock slide flinch on forretres
>win
Whiteouts: 141
https://streamable.com/1bwxqd
Could do it without, but then he doesn't get 1v6'd kek
>>56966533
meant to also reply to >>56966483

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i think you should get checked for STDs

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5 pokemon and his last one was a fucking slurpuff
No wonder he got swept by sneedoking

>>56966587
gg based crustle sweep. why'd you stop using rock slide?

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>>56966250
>>56966344
Thanks bros.
The thing is, my EV cap is already fairly high at 220, but it just feels like there's some bullshit going on, Lycanroc wasn't even spamming Accelerock, just Rock Slide, that together with the field and everything else just made that fight absolute aids, I still do not understand how it was outspeeding Talon though.
>>56966434
>>56966587
GG.

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>not a charizardite x
who gives a shit

How's the fight against Solaris at the top of the volcano? Is it still a 1 mon boss fight that can be easily cheesed or is it a full on fight now like in Allgen?

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don't think anyone posted this already, rowe 2.0 is almost out, hopefully in time for christmas

>Solaris' Garchomp plays around Sturdy
Niggerific.
>>56966757
Anything new that seems interesting?

time for the "mash spacebar against meteor grunts" section

>>56966797
from the screenshots he posted it seems like he's adding something called trainer points that you use to buy passive upgrades like "get more exp from battles" "get more money" etc. new run modifiers like perfect ivs, no evs, grindless. it looks like there are seasons? showed 4 pics of the same route and town with different seasonal looks. some new areas, and it could also be the update where kanto is added, not sure about that. idk how much more there is then that

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I'll just post the images

I didn't even notice, Solaris has two Pokemon, what the fuck is this? Empire?
>>56966822
Fixing IVs is always a plus, seasons are interesting depending on how it's handled, don't care much for KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO though.

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SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGH.................
>>56966833
The spritework is really nice, are those color variances? That Sableye doesn't look like a shiny. I'd be down to play a bit of ROWE again when 2.0 drops.

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>Hail can take out PULSE Camerupt
Holy fucking kek, fight was actually kinda simple. Chainbred Endeavor onto Aggron, clicked it first turn on Garchomp, it goes down, send in Sturdy Golem, take it out, Solaris sends out PULSE Camerupt and I just sent in Aurorus since I wanted to find out if hail could take it out and indeed it did.

>>56966434
>>56966587
>>56966608
gg
>>56966861
>level 90
>you as level 45
jesus

>>56966892
gg

Okay, I have luna figured out, now I just need to get it done in a run kek, fuck giving everything a sneed and then making the OC move scale off of the sneed boosted stat
Whiteouts: 147
>>56966624
>>56966635
>>56966896
Thanks bros
>why'd you stop using rock slide?
Paranoia of missing and eating shit kek, should've used it on volc in case of flame body though
>>56966892
gg

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Aurorusschizo on sui-wait he's been gone for a while now

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>>56966896
Thankfully my mons are just as stubborn as me kek.
>>56966908
>>56966929
Thanks bros.

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i'm convinced they just hue shifted this line's shinies around
the first two stages were a pretty nice shade of indigo
now it's turquoise for some reason

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win the battle lose the war

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oh great who let a Jehovah's Witness show up

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my plan:
>earthquake the field
>try to smash through everything
>also hope Chuckerupt's quick claw procs as often as possible when spamming lava plume

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Whiteouts: 150
https://streamable.com/4qbxz3
Had to finagle the AI a lot
>Forretress has to rapid spin twice, otherwise Kingambit uses the Z move
>Grinsnarl has just enough EVs to outspeed Umbreon, luna sends in muk instead
>Slurpuff needs a lot of speed EVs to outsneed M-Grimmsnarl
Not terrible, but there was more than one occasion where I had to start from square one because swapping in a mon completely changed how the AI switched and whatnot, wasn't fun
I did have one attempt where CHADsnarl went wild and somehow swept half Luna's team, but Durant acked at the end because of hustle

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how the FUCK did i first try that big guy and with effectively 5 guys at that
I wonder if you get to go straight back to the final form if you died since I considered it to get another focus sash on claydol
the final form's sprite was cool though, cool how it shows just how big it is
https://streamable.com/ual4v9 Egg
https://streamable.com/1zpvhk 1st form
https://streamable.com/4lg80p Final form
>>56965662
rocky helmet worked thx boss
surprised that devouring void was physical but ill take it
>>56967065
gg

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oh, new event?

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got all my offensive powerhouses wiped out by glaceon's evasion niggery
great
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And another...
>>56967083
gg, and thanks

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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slut down

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inshallah
you know what I find interesting is how they take more capable targets to use for fusion as time goes on
Pikachu/Rapidash were probably older/frailer guys who couldn't handle it but the Rapidash did a bit better
Willie's sickly but he has psychic power or whatever so he fuses properly but he's mindless until he gets taken over by ayys
Braixen girl was in good health and was able to fuse without becoming mindless, same with Moira
and Sukuyomi has power and can not only fuse with a legend but subvert its typing
Just found the progression interesting

>A Toxapex that refuses to die
>Copperajah gets a +1 on defenses and speed
>Polteageist gets a built in Sturdy, a type change that is not conveyed at all and leaves you guessing and a free opportunity to set up in your face
OH JOY.
>>56967065
>>56967083
GG.

>>56967065
>>56967083
gg

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>double shell smashing against a SD sandslash
is the AI having a stroke right now

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cope

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just how fucking long does it take to go upstairs and have my haxorus turn dr. electrorape into dr. gonna need a lot of electricity to compute where all his body parts went

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uh
due to Contrived Plot Bullshit I wasn't allowed to use my torterra and nidoking to stop Dr. Electorape from kidnapping Laura who also suffered cutscene paralysis (not to be confused with regular paralysis which is half as strong)

How many shell smash miniors are even in Allgen anyways
This is like the twelvth one I've fought so far

>supposed to be a le epic puzzle battle
>Multiple AI mons can randomly pick multiple moves that kill both of your mons, almost certainly causing a loss because c*in's team acks badly to psychic (shocker)
>The """""solution""""" apparently isn't even consistent because of this

>>56967148
>>56967201
Also thanks

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I think this might be the first time I fucked up when fighting an actual enemy grunt this run
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