Christmas Approaches EditionWhat is Pokémon Sleep?Pokémon Sleep is a sleep tracking app that utilizes your smartphone and/or the Pokémon Go Plus + device to record data as you sleep. In doing so, you'll be able to meet a variety of Pokémon and fill out your Sleep Style Dex.Be sure to post your Research ID so that you can add and share candy with fellow Anons. We are currently locked at 50 friends.FAQ:>How do Shinies work?If you encounter a shiny Pokémon, you only need to feed it a single Poké Biscuit to befriend it.>What should I spend my diamonds on?Expanding your ingredient pockets, item pockets and Pokémon box. Long term you’ll want to max out ingredient pockets, only get half of max for items and max 100 for Pokémon.>When should I use my items?When you have a good grasp of the game mechanics. You may want to save up Recovery Incenses for event missions.>What should I spend my sleep points on?Poké Biscuits first or if you’re a premium user: Main and Subskill seeds and Great Biscuits.>Can I play this game if there's a lot of noise where I sleep?The game tracks sleep based on motion only; sound has no impact.>A Pokémon I fed got full! Will I have to start from scratch the next time I find one?Nope! Pokémon retain the level of progress they were at the last time you fed them.>How do dream clusters work?The higher your research rank, the more you get. You may want to hold onto them as long as possible.>Official Pageshttps://www.pokemon.com/us/app/pokemon-sleep/https://www.pokemonsleep.net/en/news/>Unofficial Pokémon Sleep Wiki[WARNING] Turbo Cancer-ridden with ads. Use at own risk.https://pks.raenonx.cc/en>Simple Candy Calculatorhttps://candy.blspnm.com**Back up your account by linking it to Google or your Apple ID. If you change phones, or factory reset, your account may be lost otherwise. At the very least copy your Support ID on the first Pokémon Sleep screen (click to reveal Support ID under menu)**Previous: >>56978177
I didn't know you could click on it, but the sleep style goal thing brings up a full list of your sleep style progress.
Have this for the event but I don’t really want to waste shards leveling it or use skill seeds
>>57059355Persian isn't particularly great for shards in the first place, so I wouldn't spend all the resources especially on something subpar. With a near perfect Lucario, you could get about 150,000 shards during the event and a Swalot could wind up with twice that.BUT, it's probably not wise to try and build up something specifically for the event, since it's not just immediately going to pay itself off. You really do need a high main skill level to make one worth using in the first place anyways. Not to mention that you're also getting the regular bonus from Sleep Research, so you might as well just continue to put your power towards that instead.
>>57059045You thought it was just a button shaped graphic that always says Next Goal?
I am requesting new friends once again
The way I play the game rn is with my phone, which doesn't really track sleep data at all, giving me balanced every night.I ended up needing to get one of these smart bands due to a heart condition, and this thing also tracks sleep. Is it worth to switch from eternally balanced phone tracking to band tracking to get specific sleep styles at the risk of getting locked to only one sleep style?
>>57059956your phone battery will thank you even if the game won't
>>57060458My phone is 9 years old and needs a replacement if i wanna change my lifestyle from fully remote work anyway, that's not a strong concern of mine.
Game just really won't let me have BFS without some kind of caveat.
>>57058854quit schleeping on me
If I don't see a Tyranitar this week I'm going to kms
>>57061100Funny enough I found my first ever tyranitar last night
What's your Area Bonus?GG: 65%Beach: 60%Taupe: 60%Snowdrop: 50%Lapis: 60%OPGG: 15%Still searching for a Ralts and a Dratini so I'll stay on Lapis for a while when there's no event going on.
>>57061919Fuck I swear I know it's OGPP
>>57061470what sleep power level are you at?
>>57062168I just hit master 10 and I haven't even cooked Wednesday dinner yet
>>57061919GG: 70%Beach: 60%Taupe: 65%Snowdrop: 50%Lapis: 60%OPGG: 30%Currently on Taupe, so that will be 70% come next week. Next week will be a dead week, and then everyone will be on Greengrass for Christmas the following week. I might have been on Greengrass a couple times during events with capped area bonus, but other than that I think I've been building area bonus every week.
>>57061919GG: 65%Cyan: 60%Taupe: 60% (soon to be 65%)Snowdrop: 26%Lapis: 64%OGPP: 35%Think I'm going back to OGPP next week, have learned I desperately need a good mono tomato shinx
>>57061919GG: 65%Cyan: 60%Taupe: 60%Snowdrop: 51%(->56%)Lapis: 60%OGPP: 40%Probably going back to Snowdrop next week too.
Wonder if I should actually train up a second Dragonite just for corn...
>>57062919Shit that's good, subskill order is frustrating but actual perfection at 100.In practice, you want to focus solely on one Dragonite and have a Bewear for corn so you make more effective use of two separate candy pools.Gengar also fits into this equation because it can be an excellent herb farmer, meaning Dragonite is good for filling a missing gap between Bewear and Gengar.
what should I look for in a Dratini?Ingredient finder?Berry Finder S?if a mix of ingredients is preferred, then why not a mono farmer?
>>57062989dragonite is incredibly good, fast with a decent skillif you need fiery herb, it's an amazing fiery herb pokemonif you need corn, it's a great corn pokemonit's fast enough and dragon berries are worth enough that a BFS hybrid set works extremely wellI think the only set that would suck is fiery herb, corn, oil
>>57062980>subskill orderThat's really the only reason I didn't immediately start training it. >>57062989Just your standard ingredient set works: Ingredient Finder M, and ingredient or speed up nature, with neither of those down. Pretty much anything after that it's just a bonus. Though you can also get one with BFS and speed and that seems to work perfectly fine for me. Mine is mono-herb, Helping Speed M, Inventory L, Berry Finding, and speed nature. There are still stretches where it just gets berries, but I do end up using Fiery Herbs as filler for most of my dishes with how much it naturally gathers. Ideally you probably want herb/herb/corn, but it's going to be pooping out lots of ingredients, so it depends what you need. But like >>57063002 said, herb/corn/oil probably won't be very consistent for anything but Oil.
To date, this is still the only BFS + Helping Bonus Pokemon I have.
>>57063913do you only have like 50 pokemon? i have 544 and 10 bfs+help bonus
>>57061919GG: 70%Beach: 60%Taupe: 70%Snowdrop: 35%Lapis: 70%OGPP: 15%Strings of events have kept me going back to Snowdrop and LL recently, I'm at Lapis this week and it's been fruitful with lots of Bellsprout, Dratini, and Chikorita candies, but the ones I've befriended haven't been worth raising.Next week I'll go OGPP before the mandatory week at Greengrass for the festive event.>>57063002There kind of really isn't any bad ingredient spread for Dragonite. Even the A/B/C spread is good because it ends up being a top three Oil gatherer somehow.>>57063913I've gotten six Pokémon to-date that technically have both BFS and Helping Bonus, but in practice it's really just this Meganium here.The Wigglytuff will eventually have it at level 75, but realistically my Ninetales may not ever see level 100.The other three are ones I'm unlikely to run.
>>57061919>GI75>CB65>TH75>ST65>LL45>OGPP5Currently on TH and that'll be split evenly. Not sure where I'll be next week. I don't care about minmaxing islands asap because I rather hunt for good mons I need.
>>57064464Since you have 5% going to 4 islands that'll probably look like CB 67% ST 66% LL 46% OGPP 6%.
>>57061919GG: 65Beach: 50Taupe: 63 (here this week)Snowdrop: 34Lapis: 49OGPP: 8
>>57063913I have 5: two Raichu, a Togekiss, a Victreebel and a Houndoom.
>>57064637That sounds pretty sweet. You could theoretically get a GG roll of Electric/Grass/Dark and run a full BFS/HB+25% team.
>>57061919GG: 65Cyan: 60Taupe: 60Tundra: 40Lapis: 60Power: 45 (current location)I have yet to get even a halfway decent coffeemon to actually finish making the new recipes.
>>57063913I've got a few...
>>57063913Oh look, I got another...
>>57064121I actually found some more after taking a full catalog of the ones that I kept/haven't thrown away yet. So out of 593, I have 4. Only 2 of those in any real position to be used if they were actually worth using. And amusingly both are Rock types.Note that I've kept almost anything that had BFS until now, so it's obviously very skewed. Every remaining occurrence of gold skills:Research Bonus - 13Energy Bonus - 14Dream Shards - 17Sleep EXP - 14Skill Level Up - 19Helping Bonus - 22Berry Finding - 34
I didn't get to mention this last thread, but until they confirm if A-Vulpix is going to have a different candy set or the same like in Go I'm gonna try and prioritize sending Vulpix candy as I encounter them for anyone wanting to save up.t. a friend with a witch hat
>>57065307i just use an ingredient magnet mon but ive found more slowpoke tails than coffee beans since i got coffee beans
>>57066013It seems pretty likely that Alolan Vulpix will share the same candies given how all the event Pikachus and Eevee lines work. While they're regarded separately for sleep styles and friendship levels, they still use the same candies regardless. You still have to use a stone after all, which typically becomes a significant barrier to use.
>>57066013I get the feeling it will have a different set since the regional form is a whole line, not just an offshoot like Alohan Raichu would be (please add it dev team)>>57067010Yeah, coffee seems rare from the skill.
I keep having to fight whether or not to spend more biscuits on stuff I still need, but I also have to save some for the xmas event when Pawmi, Holiday Eevee, and A.Vulpix show up.
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>>57069051>Cramorant buffFucking nice, I love mine already but this is great
>>57069051>Main Skill seed in regular shopPlace your bets on how many points it is going to cost.
Boy, they seem to be entirely trying to retire charge strength s, huh?Wonder if the idea is to get it to just charge strength m and then rename that too?>>570690782200
new legendary with skill that won’t be copied by metronome?
>>57069112They're just restyling abilities to make pokemon species more individualized so that even subpar performers can get their niche. Ironically they just changed Houndour's from S to M just when they were starting to make these changes, but they said all skills will end up with a unique twist eventually. And the specially named skills all still have their base skill in parenthesis, I assume to at least give a general idea what it does along with its general power level. Though you also have stuff like Stockpile which is mechanically a lot different despite being tagged Charge Strength S.
>>57069051Transform/Mimic could be amazing depending on implementation and team composition.Wondering if a copied Helper Boost becomes Psychic type or Normal type, like when Metronome picks Helper Boost and becomes Fairy type.Arbok getting a helping speed buff also very significant, it might be that I shouldn't ignore them after this. Poison berries are actually pretty strong.Comfey also desperately needed that buff, its role is early access to corn but for when corn was introduced and so many had Stufful and Bewear, Comfey was irrelevant.>>57069078Mail Skill seed in regular shop sure as fuck won't be cheap, it's already 1800 in the premium exchange.>>57069331Possibly, and Metronome is still really good. It'll still have Helper Boost available to it.Mechanically, there might need to be a reason why a certain kind of main skill is excluded from the Metronome pool. Say, something like a legendary skill that causes every helper to use their main skill in tandem.A skill like this would have to belong on a "special" Pokémon of which you're only allowed to have one on your team, so no combination of this plus a Helper Boost Entei, etc.
>>570690783600The items the regular and premium shops share are usually half the price in the premium shop.
>>57063913>half of them have speed down nature>half of them are ingredient pokemon>>57061919GG: 65%Beach: 60%Taupe: 60%(+5%)Snowdrop: 60%Lapis: 60%OPGG: 40%
>>57069743>Skill Harmony>If this skill triggers, every active mon will also trigger their skillsNow imagine if this was triggerable by Metronome. Skill Harmony triggers Metronome picks Skill Harmony triggers Skill Harmony triggers Metronome picks... yknow?
>>57070034or "Skill Rainbow">if this skill triggers, it'll do one of every main skill of the current active mons (so the other active mons are not forced to use theirs)Of course, you could just "this doesn't trigger itself again"
>>57069051>comfey buffI feel good about sticking with comfey, even when it was shit. Now it will be 1% less shit!>>57070034>>57070038sounds like a good skill for something like Mew, which I could see them making absurdly rare so you'll buy master biscuits.
>get dozing sleep>master 13 on taupe>absolutely 0 Tyranitar, or even pupitar>two gulpins>atop belly EKANS>houndour>gastlyI am going to KMS
>>57070171Pisses me off so much when you get an atop belly shitmon.Strength rating is only part of the equation though, you need high drowsy power so if you get shit hours you get shit rolls.
>>57070640I got a perfect sleep score, so this is bullshitthe total drowsy power was 120,638,000
>>57069872No way they would make it over a month's worth of sleep points. Maybe +500 points at most, since they're still limited and premium pass users also have access to both shops. Note that the point exchange shops still require you to actually play the game to get sleep points, so it doesn't make sense for them to introduce the option yet price it in a way that discourages even premium pass users from purchasing it.
should I change my area every week or stick with one
>>57071606Main skill seeds ended up being the thing that worked against skill specialists, they outright rely on them.Berry specialists and ingredient specialists improve at their roles by levelling up; berries get stronger, new ingredient slots unlock, there's less of a reliance on subskills but they do improve their role.All skill specialists had was the chance to get +1, +2, or +3 skill levels from subskills (which has to compete with skill trigger subskills), and the skill levels gained from evolution IF they can evolve (mons like Dedenne gets stuffed).The imbalance here can be seen as intentional as skill specialists have the potential to do incredible things, the trade off being an added investment is required and therefore adds value to whatever economy is implemented, and encourages you to go premium, save up sleep points, etc.In practice, you have a whole category of Pokémon that are heavily limited in use due to the scarcity of these seeds, as they can't deliver on berries or ingredients for direct strength contributions.I feel like there's a very simple fix to this problem, something like a guaranteed +1 skill level when hitting level milestones like 20 or 40, and maybe only for skill specialists. The "double bank" skill trigger was a much needed buff, but only for actually running actively outside of the economy thing mentioned.>>57071831Stick to an area if you want to advance team building, whether that's finding a specific 'mon to add or earning candies to power up a 'mon worth running.Change to new areas if you want to advance your sleep dex goals. Progressing into Lapis Lakeside and Old Gold Power Plant in particular are important goals because they have good spawns (more desirable and fewer undesirable).Sleep dex goals are also how you increase your maximum cooking pot size, and maximum area bonus.
Already found 5 new sleep styles this week, didn't realize my dex on taupe was missing so many of these higher Evo fire mons
>https://pks.raenonx.cc/enIf I use this website, at what PR is considered "good enough"? Im sick and tired of waiting months and months for the "best" possible subskills. Pic related is not the best dragonite on paper but the website is rating it pretty good so what do you guys thinkAlso how do you best take advantage of growth week? Ik it's more than halfway over, but i never know what to do since I just use the same guys over and over again. Finally looking to train some new guys and break out of the "not good enough" prison.
Is it a good pichu?Speed of help upInventory up L at level 50Is energy recovery down bad?
>>57072165for something like dragonite, which uses a ton of resources to even evolve it, I wouldn't settle for less than 92imo, you want mono herb, herb corn corn or MAYBE herb herb oil. I wouldn't bother with an herb corn oil oneI wouldn't invest in a dragonite without helping speed or ingredient up, eitherit takes way too long to raise one, and the candies are rare to come by.Keep looking
>>57072760*helping speed or ingredient up nature
>>57072742no, it's pretty badyou want helping speed up nature, helping speed subskills and berry finding S ingredient finder on berry pokemon is badskill trigger on pikachu is a wasteinventory L doesn't help berry pokemonenergy recovery is okand you don't get helping speed until level 100, so it's useless
>>57072742>energy down natureNot if you got a healer, which you don't>Ingredient FinderBad because Pichu is a berry monHelping works in a funny way. The specialty (top right of the screen) tells you which thing a Pokémon specialises in (with few exceptions) and that means that you are supposed to use it for "berries" for example. This also affects how their helpings work.Each helping is a spin of a wheel. On that wheel is (example) 90% berry helping, 7% ingredient helping and 3% skill trigger helping. The game automatically spins the wheel each time the pokemon helps (that kinda is helping frequency but that is also more complicated too).Subskills can change how this wheel looks though. Whenever you have Ingredient Finder S/M or Skill Trigger S/M it'll remove some berry finding chance (always) and adds it to the respective helping category. This means that a berry mon is actively hindered by having a higher chance at finding ingredients.The Skill "Berry Finding S" however, does not change the wheel you spin but just adds a berry each time you gather one (so it's 3 at once for the Pichu line for example).THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT I CAN RECOMMEND IS to always recruit the most base form of any line. There's an argument to be had about recruiting evolved berry specialists but since you are new you should stick to that mantra. Except for shinies. Shinies take one normal PokeBiscuit for a recruit. They're a guaranteed capture.
>>57061919GG - 65% AB, 81% StylesCyan - 60% AB, 87% StylesTapue - 60% AB, 75% StylesTundra - 19% AB, 72% StylesLapis - 39% AB, 77% StylesOG - 45% AB, 76% StylesHoping the Pawmi line has Indredient Magnet, because I am in desperate need of supply to meet my great demand by BFS Magnezone and Luxray
>>57061919GG: 60%Beach: 60%Taupe: 60%Snowdrop: 60%Lapis: 60%OPGG: 50%probably gonna stay on GG for the rest of this month. get it to 75% for future events.
Something I didn't know: the hardness of your mattress apparently makes a difference when tracking (I'm using the pogo++).I'm on a trip and this mattress is really firm. As a result, the pogo detects a lot less movement during the night, and I end up getting a lot more slumbering than I should be.
>>57074086Yeah, this is something I've noticed too when it comes to the fitting of my bedsheets, and even just how close I place my Go++ to the corner.Just making my bed can be enough to change my tracking for a night or two.
if you're using the pogo++, can you still track with your phone if you don't take your pogo++ with you?
>>57074097Yeah you tell it when to start tracking, so just use your phone instead of the go++
>>57069051>Arbok - Frequency shortened slightlyCurrently at 1:01:40, has to be dropped to at LEAST 1:00:00, maybe as much as mid 50's to be decent. Arbok currently matches Altaria, but has weaker berries and ingredient quantities/power. For reference, Slaking is 1:03:20, Marowak is 58:00, and Houndoom is 55:00, which are the next slowest berry lines. Wonder if they'll buff Marowak eventually too.>Pikachu (Holiday) - Frequency shortened slightly, carry limit increasedProbably just getting bumped up to the same levels as Halloween Pikachu.>Cramorant - Main skill chance increased slightlyCurrently gets about 2.2 activations per day at base, so I imagine it will only provide a tiny bit of consistency. Might actually get a solid 4 per day with enough skill boosts. But 2 activations per day is actually pretty decent for a non-skill type already. Cramorant could actually use slightly more ingredient finding chance.>Comfey - Ingredient finding chance increased slightly, main skill chance increased slightlyReally needs all the help it can get since it's so far behind the other single-stagers, and it's actually the worst ingredient type in terms of quantities, barely sitting behind Quagsire.
>>57072742Example of a shiny. Generally decent but not noteworthy. Found the pre evo and instantly evolved it.It's weird because I just talked about it and recently found a shiny Haunter after months of no shiny.
>>57072165Is the mon hard to catch? 90Is it impossible to encounter, let alone catch? 80+Is the mon common? 95+
>>57072165>Also how do you best take advantage of growth week?I have a 57 and 59 i want to get to 60, and two sleep exp bonus pokemon that don't hamper my team on OGPP (running raikou may have actually been a boost)So i've been getting 192xp each day, and now master 3 is done and we're at good sleep day bonus I'm swapping out my level 60 for another sleep exp bonus and I'll get 384 then 576 the last two nights. which basically gets my 59 to 601920xp to both the pokemon, 1220 extra. So 48.8 candies and like 50 bazillion dreamshards saved for each one, or nearly two weeks of sleep
So my sleep schedule in apple watch is 12-8. But on the weekends I don't follow this. Like last night I slept at 3am and woke up today at 12pm. But the friggin game only tracked my sleep from 3am-8am. This is so annoying is there a way to tell this thing that I won't be following my normal schedule? It lost 4 hours of sleep.
>>57075612i'd guess that you need to do it on your watch/phone, set up the schedule differently
Astonishingly, I've managed to get Snoozing sleep every night so far this week and I've caught at least 1 thing every day. Unsurprisingly there's nothing usable out of the bunch except for a reluctant BFS Cyndaquil with a bad nature. Next week is definitely going to be a conserve week even though we'll probably get more biscuits for the Dream Shard event.
>>57076230Dream Shard event is basically just a "get as high of a ranking as possible" so "more biscuit" doesn't really makes sense. It's an event and they are likely to yield biscuit rewards.
>>57076981Well yeah, that's what I meant. We'll get biscuits from the event missions, not that we'll somehow get more biscuits from it being a dream shard event specifically.
>get another naughty bfs helping speed M cyndaquilI don't even use berry pokemon. I guess I'll save it for H typhlosion.
>>57075540>If overlapping events trigger more than one of the same type of bonus, the larger bonus will be appliedMan i wish I could read….so i only got 100x1.42x2 xp not the 100x1.42x2x1.5 i was hoping for
>Weavile has a sleep style that gives 15k Dream Shards and one that gives 20kHoly shit.
Is this good enough?
>>57079726>EXP down natureYou won't have this thing evolved by the end of this game's life cycle
>>57079726No, send it to the candy grinder.
If I was to try and overstack this coming up week in preparation for the holiday event, which of these 3 do you think would work the best? I plan to have 3 different bfs mons with each plus a walrein to guarantee I hit on at least one berry at greengrass if I get unlucky rerolls
My boy is finally 60
>>57081045Congrats... show the skills and nature.
>>57081750I didn't actually start training it right away, so it was probably closer to 6-8 months of EXP rather than almost a year.
>>57081750>>57082052shid
>>57080523I hope you didn't listen to these retards, this dratini is excellent. Sure it's going to take a million years to get to level 41 but dragonair isn't that shit, especially pure herb BFS dragonair
>>57082432meant for >>57079726
>>57079235Wonder why it's so high. Even Steelix caps out around 10k. Guess it's just that rare/high point req?
>master 17 on taupe>x full moon buff>x new sleep styles buffI better get some good fucking food for once.
To the anon wanting to get a bunch of larvitar candy... Sorry
>>57082432I think you're underestimating just how much resources it takes. Not only that, but the Dratini really doesn't have much going for it besides BFS. The other 2 skills are basically throwaways, leaving the nature as OK, but almost the worst negative a pseudo could possibly have. Even with BFS, you still want at least Ingredient Finder M or Helping Speed M as one of the other skills reachable by 50.
Was thinking of leveling up this Wooper I got with Candy Boost, but then I compared it at level 50 to my Gengar. Not only does it get less Mushrooms, but even with Oran berries being preferred it only barely beats out Gengar with berry power. And that's without the extra Herbs or Gengar's skill which would likely proc at least once per day. Guess I don't really have a need to find a Wooper, unless I manage to get a perfect one and want to invest in it just for Cyan Beach.
>>57083265Quagsire is notably poor for both its gathering speed and ingredient rate that are intended to balance out its high base ingredient power. The important part is having mushrooms at 60, if not all slots, though I guess potatoes also aren't bad as a secondary ingredient. You don't actually need any more than 45-ish mushrooms per day in order to make all the recipes that currently use mushrooms. And since Quagsire is so slow, it really is just better off maxing speed and ingredient rate over berry finding or extra inventory.
can you transfer pokemon yet?
>>57083865Never really understood the want/need to transfer stuff to Pokemon Home from side games. Aren't their stats all shit? I guess you could put in a shiny, but those are really easy to get in the mainline games nowadays.
>>57083716i think it'll be buffed in the future. I dont think they ever nerfed something but they have buffed a lot of stuff so it makes sense why they would release Quagsire a little underpowered.
This one isn’t hindered by nature right? I need a ginger gatherer and this has only good sub skills
>>57084719Raenox says yes
>>57084734>yesYes meaning good unless double digit PR is badThis is all me samefagging btw trying to work out this game
>>57082681>get dozing (tyranitar sleep type)>atop belly skeledirge>3 star umbreon>3 star arbok>3 star swalot>1 star houndour>2 star suppet>1 star shuppet>3 star Banette>ONE STAR EKANS486.515,600 sleep power... for thisI am never going to the shithole known as taupe hollow again
>>57084719It's godlike, anon, congrats. You will be set for life when it comes to ginger.
CAN I GET ONE FUCKING DELIBIRD WITH LEVEL 30 EGGS
With 600m points yesterday I got maybe 15k dream shards? Like all level 1 sleep styles, what a waste of a good sleep day.
>>57085598Meanwhile my delibird giving me 6 apples at level 30 has been my desert boi of choice
>>57085598I got one, it even has helping Bonus, but it also is ingredient finding down. The asshole always lets me down.
>>57085661I got my Skeledirge for apples. It's not level 30 yet but I'm drowning in them, though Pokeplus Pikachu helps contribute to that too. I desperately need eggs so I've been slaving away in Snowdrop for weeks, but these fuckers are rare and get full at 2 biscuits. I've resorted to using up Master Biscuits since I'm not going for a legendary any time soon.>>57085691I feel that, I had a Toxicroak with great subskills but Ing Down, so I barely ever got oil. I just got a triple oil Toxicroak recently though with Helping Bonus but not much else special, though it'll do the trick.
>Start using Skeledirge>Notice he has been triggering his skill often>Look up his skill trigger rates>Turns out he is the Ing mon with the highest skill trigger chance by a good margin, even higher than most skill specialists like VaporeonWow, they really wanted to make him the ultimate Apple farmer.
>balanced sleep gets me 5 new stylesI guess this was actually a "good" sleep day.
>>57085707How much does the pokeplus thing do? I don’t play go but I keep hearing about it
I’m gonna assume for now that the Metronome change means it won’t call Transform or Mimic, just to avoid having hope that a new Pokemon will have something crazy.I already assume it doesn’t call Disguise. Does it call Stockpile?
>>57085864Good Sleep Day increases your odds of undiscovered sleep styles too.I only got Slumbering sleep last night, but I got a Bewear and Quaquaval sleep style I needed and that's put me at 90% of Lapis Lakeside discovered.Still haven't seen a Dragonite though, I likely would've had I gotten dozing sleep.
>>57085876Not much, you get like around 10-12 ingredients a day and some berries. I bought it mostly to spare my phone.
>>57085876>>57086066This, I usually get a bit more though it's supplemental. It's great because I can use my phone while I have my sleep tracking on which is the real benefit desu, though it doesn't pick up sleeping noise if you care about that.
>>57085879Pretty sure it will just use the generic version of all skills. So there's the possibility of it using Berry Burst over Disguise, but I doubt it would use Skill Copy mainly to avoid a trigger loop (Skill Copy > Metronome > Skill Copy > etc). And Stockpile would just turn into Charge Strength S.
>>57086305>Pretty sure it will just use the generic version of all skillsIt's kinda inconsistent since it can roll Umbreon's version of Energizing Cheer and even get the critical, yet I have never seen it crit when rolling Berry Burst.And to answer >>57085879 , it can't roll Stockpile (thankfully).
Is slaking usable for anything? I still find it weird that it loses speed on evolve, but I guess it’s on brand.
>>57086901it doesnt just lose speed on evolve, it turns into a quasi-double specialist. As Slaking you have a good chance at getting either berries or a skill trigger.
glad i went to taupe this past week, very surprised i was able to discover a lot of new sleep styles, ended up raising my dex completion % on taupe to 89% which is now my highest dex completion% (my highest before was 88%)which map is your highest dex% completion and what % are you at?
>>57087009>overall %73,2% and i am playing since launched. I missed a handful of days but not in a row.>area and %Cyan Beach @ 86%
>>57086901>>57086912It really depends what skillset your Slakoth has to determine whether it would be better as a Vigoroth or Slaking. The Slakoth line is interesting since it's justifiable to not fully evolve it, like Onix/Steelix. And both lines actually got a buff with ribbons too, since the unevolved forms get a minor speed bonus after enough sleep hours logged.BFS -> VigorothSkill Trigger -> SlakingSlaking not only gets slower, but also gets an increased ingredient rate too, so BFS is actually pretty bad on it. Conversely, that also makes it decent for picking up ingredients... still not fantastic since it still only as the 1x/2x/4x quantities.
>>57087009My highest is Cyan at 90%, then GG at 88%, TH 86% and Lapis 85%
>>57087009Overall 70,1%Top 3 is Cyan 84%, Greengrass 83%, Lapis 82%
is there some kind of intro doc I can read for what to look for in mons and how to set up a decent team? I'm new to /zzz/ and feel like there's a lot of info and i'm getting lost in the sauce
>>57087908The general gist is that some Pokémon are more useful than others and that's simple enough to look up.Familiarity with the main series is enough to know that stuff like Raichu, fully evolved starters and pseudos, Gengar, Walrein, are gonna be better than things like Arbok, Persian, Sudowoodu, etc.Though really it's best to look up stuff and see which ones are actually good or not. Victreebel for example is quite a bit more useful than Mr. Mime despite serving near-identical capabilities (including favorite berries at a given island).Really, consult resources in the OP post they're there for a reason.The gist you need to understand about picking actually viable Pokémon though:>Look for the "speciality" icon at the top of a Pokémon's status screen>Berry specialists want nature and subskills that prioritise helping speed and berry finding, they also do not want ingredient finding boosts>Ingredient specialists want ingredient finding boosts above all else, but you also need to pay attention to their ingredient slots at levels 1/30/60 and see if they fill a need (mono-ingredient versus diverse ingredients), Inventory boosts are also welcome because it allows them to collect more ingredients overnight or during longer absences>Skill specialists want skill trigger boosts above all else, but also enjoy skill level ups (but you can also achieve these through evolution and main skill seeds), you also need to consider if their main skill is worth usingThere are hidden stats to each Pokémon with how frequently they gather ingredients or use their main skill, these are typically low on Pokémon that don't specialise in ingredients or skills respectively. As a result, having skill trigger boosts on berry or ingredient specialists is often a wasted slot because it's only giving maybe a 20% boost to a hidden 2% trigger rate, versus a 15% trigger rate on skill specialists.These hidden stats are also why some Pokémon can be unexpectedly good or bad.
>>57088166thanks anon, that is tremendously helpful
Reminder that maintenance starts in 30 minutes.
>>57088812I always forget even when I know it's the day-of. Guess I can still technically gather and feed dinner if I stay up about an hour later than I normally put my phone to sleep, but I also get some buffer from it still being a Good Sleep Monday. Suppose my gains would still be stunted for the rest of the week though... Better just stay up.
I hate how you can't access go++ settings during maint.
maintenance done
Interesting, the internal name for Alolan Vulpix is 7006 and Ninetales 7007.Which might indicate they already decided on the next regional forms. I was not able to find much other data.
>>57090858What else did you find.
>>57090978Was trying to find out of the random star in this bundle was supposed to be a new item, but there is no data related to it. However if it is a new item, they could always introduce it with a small patch. The others are regular assets for the x-mas event and the new pokémon formsThere is a new MD for skill filters, which only doesn't seem to list Stockpile/Spit Up, doesn't show any difference from the usual list.Charge Strength SCharge Strength MDream Shard Magnet SEnergizing Cheer SCharge Energy SEnergy for Everyone SExtra Helpful SIngredient Magnet SCooking Power-Up SMetronomeTasty Chance SHelper BoostBerry BurstSkill CopyI doubt Metronome and Skill Copy (Transform/Mimic) should trigger from Metronomone or the otherway around.Not sure if I'm not doing enough digging, since the switch in Unity versions I am able to find less data. I'm not investing much time in figuring out how to find more info either, as we already have raenonx and I have my own projects I'm working on.
Wait a minute... am I not supposed to get a gold subskill on 25 at friendship level 26 or did they actually fix it?What to make of this thing? Don't need a Sylveon.
>>57091383That star is probably a massive amount of dream shards.
>>57091383What >>57091774 said. Dream Cluster XL or L. Not sure what the current largest available size is.Anyway, thanks for your service.>>5709165020 guarantees one, 40 guarantees 2 but i dont remember if 60 was actually 3 or if it was a 3 at 80.What to make of it? Nothing necessarily, Vaporeon is a decent choice for farming Slowpoke Tails and Coffee Beans.
>want to make teatime scones, set up party to get ingredients>start to make it, realize its 67 ingredients and not the max 66 i have>need 300k dream shards to upgradeHad to use a good camp ticket since I had a bunch of ingredients, though thankfully I'm a paypig and do the 6-month sub so it's not a heavy loss. Which retard thought it'd be good to make that dish one ingredient over a pot max though?
Did a quick analysis of Arbok's frequency buff, for a speculated poison/bug/dragon island, and it looks like it puts it on-par with Altaria as they both are slow but powerful berry gatherers with Charge Strength S.Wigglytuff added to team analysis so that Butterfree can have max energy too.
>>57092689>Charge Strength SCharge ENERGY S
>>57092717Sorry yes, muscle memory.
Got this Dratini recently, but it might be the best out of the ones I have.Worth investing? I have a good Wiggly, so Skill Trigger isn't looking as hot as a Helping Speed M would, so I'm on the fence.
>>57092910Great skills and nature, the ABA fucks it a bit though. I'd say it's okay if you're willing to kick it up to 60, though not as a solo herb farmer.
>>57092910It delivers on ingredient strength for sure, it just depends how well it fits into your ingredient gatherers since it shares roles between Gengar and Bewear.I would personally keep looking since Dragonite needs either a perfect ingredient spread and 2+ ingredient finding boosts, or BFS.Dragonite is flexible due to how damn fast it is and how strong Yache berries are.
Guess Ditto and Mr Mime could technically already be at main skill level 7 for Charge Strength S, so Skill Copy goes up to level 7, which is a boost over Metronome. The description doesn't seem to describe anything different though.
The animation for Ditto's new skill.
>>57093632That's brilliant, for sure.Also there's a new sound effect for when skill specialists double-trigger or when a main skill crit occurs, and it's great.
>Pawmot has a peaceful personality and sometimes heals injured Pokémon by discharging electricity from its forepaws. If you see it raising its paws while it sleeps, it may be tending to other Pokémon in its dreams.Pawmi is going to be the first electric E4Er, for sure. Either the first ingredient pokemon with e4e or a skill pokemon.
>Evolving Pawmo to Pawmot requires 150 hours of sleepI hate these evolutions with sleep time requirements.
Had a couple friends quit I guess, so need 2 open spots
>>57094951???
>>57095516Just like Espeon/Umbreon/Sylveon/Lucario, evolving Pawmo requires sleeping 150 hours with it (on top of the candy cost).
>>57094951I don't care about evolution requirements because it would take me many times that I'm order to actually get a good one.
>>57093930Don't forget that the lesser "Energizing Cheer" main skill exists.I could see Pawmot line having a main skill called "Revival Blessing (Energizing Cheer)", where the crit has an Energy for Everyone effect.Also really hope that Pawmot remains Electric and doesn't turn Fighting. We need to build OGPP, not LL.>>57095621I guess it's the closest thing they could do to that walking requirement. At least it doesn't need an item.
New bundles for the Dream Shard event... Nothing much.
>>57095621At least it's the second form and not a baby.
Looks fun
I've been at Snowpoint for two weeks and not seen a single Sneasel. If I don't find one this week, I'll go crazy.
>>57097658That's pretty shitty. It's kinda crazy how Pokémon Sleep is the only mobile game I played the longest without spending over 20 dollar.I only ever purchased those one time bundles that appear once ever 6 months.
>>57097747Baby is actually preferable since for them you only need 50 hours.
>>57098166wrong
>>57097971The only thing you should ever spend money on in this game is the premium pass. I usually get enough diamonds from daily gifts and weekly missions to spend a few hundred during an event if the bundle's worth enough though. Usually it's like 4-5 Poke Biscuits and change for about 250. I think the only other time was when it also came with an evolution stone, and that was only about 600.
>>57098499there are the "90% off" bundles for diamonds which is dirt cheap and has quite a lot of stuff. I think this is the second one currently?
I haven't purchased a single thing from the shop since the startI spent all my diamonds on expanding my ingredients and items box, plus a couple of pokemon box expansionsand I still have 2k diamondswhy even spend them
>>57097658Unless I'm mistaken, I think this might be the first time that Dream Cluster L has been available?It apparently has a star shape going by the news graphic.Anyway I wonder what the value is, but I'd not drop 3000 diamonds to get just one when I have over a million dream shards worth of unredeemed clusters.>>57099082Buying diamonds, and the bundles that cost diamonds has never been worth it. Diamonds earned through play just for storage upgrades is more than adequate and we're lucky that storage upgrade costs don't scale like cooking pot upgrades.Premium subscription is worth it for the relatively low cost and high value, but that's it.Also those rare "one time cash purchase" bundles with a lot of biscuits for really cheap, that's happened like twice have been worth it.The economy of the game is weird, the microtransactions just aren't worth it as by the nature of the game you aren't racing to the finish but enjoying the slow, idle grind.Select Button's previous game, Magikarp Jump, I played all the way to the end without spending a single penny on it. Paying to accelerate an idle game just doesn't make much sense, especially in one that lacks any kind of gacha or chase mechanics.
Huh, I've had surprisingly decent luck with Arons. Probably going with the most recent one on the right even if it doesn't have a nature and Skill Level Up M doesn't really do anything for it... But ai do want BFS...
If I’ve maxed a recipe, is it a bad idea to keep making it since I’m not growing the score anymore?
Is this shiny lil pupper even salvageable?
>>57100678It's ok if you don't have the ingredients to make anything better but focus on leveling up the others.>>57100678no
>>57100678Upgrading Skill Trigger S to M actually makes it pretty decent at level 50. You would have to give it a lot of main skill seeds to get any real payoff out of it though. Not to mention you won't be able to turn it into a Lucario in time for the Dream Shard event either.
>>57100583Depends on what your goal is. I maxed out Ninja Curry and unless I'm tryharding that week I try to raise the level of other recipes.
>>57100583If it's a casual week I'd consider focusing on lesser recipes that are easier to make.I'm close to maxing out a few of the really good corn based recipes now, and the reason I make them is to strengthen the Snorlax, not the recipe itself.Casual weeks you want to improve your bottom line, and maybe accelerate your early week gains so you can hurry to Master 3 for the incense and maximum spawns, and reasonably good dream shard gains whilst still finding any sleep styles you might be missing.Top line is for events that really matter where you can afford to use a good camp ticket and dump in extra ingredient tickets and helper whistles to meet important goals.Speaking of which, I'm thinking of using a good camp ticket for next week's Dream Shard event. I have a lot of them saved up because "important events" aren't as frequent right now, and it'll directly increase my dream shard earnings which'll help with how many I'll be using up on Candy Boost.
>>57099932Actually not sure if I should go ahead and get the BFS one up to an Aggron in the meantime, because it really is pretty far ahead power-wise before level 60. The only real detractor to that one is more Sausage at 60 vs precious Coffee. S-rank skills are worse than positive natures after all, so it might be worth to wait for yet another with the same ingredient set.
Cleared out my friends list of some people, I do my best to send good candy.
If you hold a menu's "Back" button, you will be taken directly to the home screen no matter how deep in the menus you are. Try it in the items menu.
>>57103153Yeah it's a neat feature.You can also do this on your team screen to view your 5 team members, handy if you want to quickly power them up.
>haven't seen shinies in months>not even during events>found a shiny haunter>two weeks later shiny Crocalor>a week later, today:
Almost.... Not quite>>57103395>SkillsYeah, seems about normal for a shiny. At least it got buffed a little bit.
>>57103587Not like I'm gonna use it lol.
>>57103587Candy Boost next week will pull it off (hitting level 41 for evolution), but it'll cost at least 300k Dream Shards.However you'd also have like 200-300 candies left over so you could opt to go dream shard efficient for the remaining later levels.That's assuming an EXP neutral nature.
>>57104262I don't even think the Candy Boost will be very worth this time around. It might make sense under... level 25-30 still, but I still haven't fully upgraded my pot either. So I have a decent amount of shards, but very much not an excess that I really need over candies.
>>57101531I'm probably gonna use a ticket too. I've got a few saved, and it implies there's an increased chance for shinies.
>>57105260I'm personally at a point where I'd really like to hurry end certain things to 50 or 60.My best Gengar, Victreebel, and Bewear to 60 for ingredient unlocks.My best Entei to 50 for Skill Trigger M unlock.Maybe get a promising Grubbin up to a level 30 Vikavolt; mono-coffee, BFS, very high ingredient rate, but speed hindering nature.Also a good BFS Dedenne that gets Skill Trigger M at 50, but I'm holding out for the possibility of nature mints because it would be literal perfection then.>>57105334They never disclose odds for "increased shiny chances" so I never give them any weight or thought.
>>57105943We can work out shiny chance ourselves, and it turns out to be about 0.05%. So even with a many times multiplied rate, they tend to still be pretty rare.
It's nice that comfey is allowed to be an ingredient pokemon now.
>>57107431Heracross and Sableye still need some help, as even at their best, they're just barely even with their much more common equivalents.
>>57106791The point though really is that when you're "rolling" for something, ethically they should be disclosing what the odds are.Although since shinies aren't something you can actually pay to roll for (you're literally encouraged to sleep properly), as opposed to typical lootbox mechanics, it's fine really. It's arguably the less harmful gacha mechanic though there's qualms with rolls when befriending Pokémon.
>Sprigatito>Mono-Potato>Rash nature>Ing Finder M at 100FUCK, so close.It does a decent job at potato farming, but only a single ingredient boost.I'm tempted, I'm not in dire need of a potato farmer since my Victreebel does a pretty good job, it's tomtatoes that I'm usually short on and I just can't find Shinx at all.
>>57106791For each sleep session or each individual Pokémon of the max of 8 without incenses and GCT?
Can someone give me the QRD on next week's event?Are you using a GCT? When should I pop the double shard incenses?When should I use the GCT to maximize the days of usage?
>>57110538always use tickets the Sunday night before, just AFTER you'd normally go to bed (So you get it for the Monday morning, and go to bed just before it expires the following Sunday. I have 4 saved, so I'll be using one, at the very least for an extra shiny roll.
>>57110571I see. so if I typically track my sleep at 9:30pm, I should track it at.. say.. 10:00pm?
>>57110610Yep, just don't forget to start tracking before 10pm on the second sunday.Also, in regards to using a luck incense, the best days are the 29th, 25th and 24th, in that order (since your drowsy power will be higher later on in the week).
>>57110478That estimate is per Pokemon, so obviously seeing more Pokemon increases your chances per day. Same for recording multiple sleep sessions per day.
>>57110538>Can someone give me the QRD on next week's event?Event takes place at Greengrass Isle only.Ice types have guaranteed favourite berries, +1 main skill level, +1 to gathered ingredients, 1.5x skill trigger rate.Dream shard gains are doubled from both sleep research, and Dream Shard Magnet S main skill activations. Sleep research shards are tripled when starting a sleep session on December Wednesday 25th and Sunday 29th.Newly debuting Pokémon are the Alolan Vulpix and Pawmi lines, which will be easier to encounter than usual, along with many ice types.Pikachu (Holiday) and Eevee (Holiday) wearing Santa hats will be available too, with Eevee being new. Note that Pikachu (Holiday) has Dream Shard Magnet and is a skill specialist, compared to regular or Halloween Pikachu.Event missions will be available that award incenses for these new Pokémon, and generous amounts of dream shards and biscuits.Shiny rate is apparently boosted, by how much is unknown.When signing in on the 24th and 25th you'll receive "Dream Gifts", contents yet unknown.On the 25th, you'll receive 1225 bonus Sleep Points.The Candy Boost function will be available, where you can double the EXP gained from using candies, but at the cost of using 5x as many dream shards. You can boost up to 500 candies per day, this is recommended for species whose candies are scarce due to appearing rarely, or for giving low level Pokémon a leg up when dream shard costs are still low.https://pks.raenonx.cc/en/info/event/name_7-Holiday-2024 gives a good overview of what to expect.
>>57110538>>57112115 Continued>Are you using a GCT? When should I pop the double shard incenses?I'll be using one since greater Snorlax strength gains directly correlate to higher Drowsy Power, and therefore more Dream Shards earned through rarer sleep styles observed.GCT will give +1 Pokémon encounter, popping a Pokémon incense will also give some additional Dream Shards, consider popping some junk incenses like Graveler or Raticate, you can use them at Greengrass.You also have a small chance of getting Raikou (Snoozing), Entei (Snoozing), and Suicune (Slumbering) encounters at Greengrass once you surpass Master 9 with 40 million Drowsy Power.For 2 star legendary sleep, you need Master 13 and 115m DP.3 star needs Master 19 and 243m DP.>When should I use the GCT to maximize the days of usage?Have a slightly later than normal bed time on Sunday, and activate your GCT right before you start sleep tracking.On the following Sunday, make sure to sleep track before the GCT runs out, and you'll get 8 nights sleep worth of GCT benefits.E.g. activate at 12:30am and take Sunday's last sleep at 12:15am, or 12:29am if you're daring.Also, when you arrive at GG on Monday morning, and your two randomly rolled favourite berries or meal reference are no good, remember that you can use an E-Zzz Travel Ticket to reroll Greengrass.I only have the one good Walrein, so I need good accompanying rolls like Electric, Grass, Fire, Water, Ghost, as these are my better picks. I was considering going with a Dream Shard Magnet farming team though, buuut the payout is probably going to be weaker than rushing to Master 20, since I've accomplished it before during a previous legendary event with 60% area bonus and GCT. I currently have 70% at GG.
Something interesting I noticed whilst checking Raenonx for Holiday event stuff.Halloween and Holiday Pikachu use internal Pokédex numbers #9001 and #9002, but Eevee uses #9004, suggesting that there could be at least one more seasonal event Pokémon using #9003.Similarly, Alolan Vulpix and Ninetales use #7006 and #7007, so there may be five other regional variant Pokémon before them yet to be introduced.Maybe we'll see the likes of Alolan Geodude line at Old Gold Power Plant? We already see the regular Kantonian Geodude line there.
>>57112133Very helpful, thanks anon
>>57112152Wouldn't be surprised to see Alolan and Galarian Meowth in the future.
>>571121529003 was probably Eevee (Halloween) that they were going to release, but then decided to do a second Pikachu instead.7001-7005 are probably reserved for the Alolan versions of Rattata, Raticate, Raichu, Sandshrew, and Sandslash. It would make sense to keep them all in Pokedex order if they do get added in eventually, since every other Pokemon is ordered as such.
Wonder if they'll actually give xmas Eevee a new skill or if it'll just have to be a strictly better (non-evolving) Eevee
What's up with Ditto now? Do we treat it like a skill pokemon or stick with ingredient finding skills?
>>57112152Give me my Alohan Raichu already.
>>57113879>Do we treat it like a skill pokemonHell no, his skill was changed but his abysmal trigger rate is still the same. An average of 1.5 triggers per day at lvl 50.The skill change is just a fun small bonus.
>able to find the three new mons on OGPP>only Super 3I didn't think it was possible... maybe I should go there from now on until I get a good coffee bean bug.
Well, it's usable at least.
>>57115055Makes a nice stop gap coffee farmer, until you can find the best one. >>57111320thank you
I only get the best.
>>57114030Thanks, that's what I thought
>>57113879If you really want to use a skill like that, just go for Metronome via Togekiss or Clefable. Both actually have decent activation rates. Just wish I had ones that weren't so shit.
I guess this will have to do for my Ice coverage for next week...
>>57118047At least it's better than my Ice-types. I don't have a great feeling going into next week. I can only hope for curry and good berry rolls.