Leaf IN, Xsneed OUT edition>Friend ID Survey: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScx82fFuZO5JSneihERecx5UKEJv42EGQKYZM3flPh_ERIa-A/viewform>Friend ID Sheet:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DGhOfaMX6D_YUR-P39_OJdVmAl0uacohIRstE9oN9SQ/edit>Tournament results/decklists:https://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournaments/completed?game=POCKET>Upcoming events/datamines/schedule:https://pocket.codex.gg/news/schedule//vp/ battle passwords to battle with other anons (might want to say in thread which one you wanna battle under so others can join you)>/vp/‘s own meta (no random effects, no ex):vpnx>meta decks or high level play:vpmeta>/vp/ anything:vpPrevious: >>57067949
>>57069891>let's waste a trainer card on retreating??
>>57069891I just want to see Celebi, I have so many grass cards but Exeggutor is shitty
I'm learning Fire decks fucking suck
>>57069915Are you the one with Zapdos ex whose ass I just whooped? lmao Arcanine is the best pokemon
>fifth moltres>still only one charizardt-thanks
>>57069902It's called supporter, Jim
>>57069891Your image is retarded, you can use Blue(female) together with xspeed to make pokemon like Melmetal retreat for free.
>mythical island>mew ex>celebi exElectric ex is zeraora
>fifth charizard>still only one moltrest-thanks
>finally got bulba>it's a generic oneWTF?
>>57070050Do we know what celebi ex does?
I’m confused with this new pvp event…you have to actually have a 5 win streak to get the medal?
>>57070065yepthe biggest tryhards should be gone by now, but you still have a stressful luck fest ahead of you
I finally got a Goldeen and a FA Gyarados after a week of opening Pika packs. My luck is back, Mew will be mine by March.
>>57069915Do you not have moltres Ex? Blaine+Ninetails can really disrupt games before your opponent can get all their mons fully evo'd
>>57069891Just imagine how much money full art Leaf will bring.
>>57069915Blaine deck or Char EX are both good decks
I wonder picked a Mexican Blastoise
>>57070106JAJAJA SALUD
>>57070106i accidentally wonder picked in italian, lucky i didn't get anything usable i would be so mad if i had to play an italian card
>>57070114when you use the italian card it will be in whatever language your game is set to. It'll still show up in your collection as italian though
I finished most solo missions, just missing probably like 10ish quests. If I finish these am I just cucked out of drawing cards? I'm not paypigging this game, and you barely get shit for dueling it seems.
I have wonderpicked at least 25 shop tickets and 0 (zero) Magnemites, fml
>>57070130We'll get more solo missions with the new booster packs, but yes people have been complaining for weeks about having nothing to do other than dailies
>>57070016Relax liberal, it's just a meme
>>57070131i have only wonderpicked normal magnemites which don't count. even on the big wonderpick where i had a choice of 3 magnemites 2 bulbas i picked bulba. i have something like 7 of the god damn bulbas
i'm so sorry if anyone got sniped by the SPOON, i've been testing this. its not the best but theres been some hilarious matches. this actually got me my 5 streak on f2p so im proud of it. it's fun to see pika squirm trying to kill when he know ill 120 him. still inconsistant and slow tho sometimes, but sometimes the abra line just comes online fast and its great seeing the calculations happen and energy distibution. this anon actually conceded beecause he couldnt kill me fast enough, i was 1 turn ahead cuz i outraced zap and sniped him, got ahead with potion the pika could only do 90 and i kill. fun stuff sometimes. it bricks but sometimes theres just enough juice to pull out the second threat and comeback too depending. bonus, its a nonex .dek. also fuck red card man, i hate that shit
>>57070148I hate dual types decks in pocket, they make the energy pool become an annoying RNG bitch like getting energy is IRL pokemon TCG.
>>57070114It's only in a different language as a novelty in the wonderpicks section. It becomes your language once it's in your deck
>>57070152I know what you mean, this can still brick hard by getting way too much fighting energy in a row or a mistimed one, but since everything is either 1+ colorless or just 1 it kinda works, plus everything except alakazam is 1 cost retreat so its assuring while your're making decisions
another fun one, most of these are races to see if they can put the energy before i out pace them and slam them for putting too much, but i also lose to stage bullshit like not drawing kadabra or a fossil right
>>57070152>>57070164They really should make dual energy pick the first energy at random and then just alternate back and forth. Colorless decks will always be a meme until then
>>57070177Alternatively not allowing the same energy to appear in a row more than twice keeps some of the randomness in too
nice dark deck goober
>>57070189This is why BO3 with counterpicks should be real
I don't think rotation would happen given how stupid hard these 2 star cards are to get, why make a chase so hard (and costly for the whales) when you're just going to say whoopsie can't play that anymore well before EoS?
>>57070196Do Hearthstone or other non-Yugioh TCG videogames do rotation? I'm assuming the other Pokemon TCG online games do it since those are closer to the real game
>>57070196No, Pocket must never get rotation, leave that bullshit to RL.
>>57070204Hearthstone has rotation, yes. Runeterra also did. Arena obviously does.
>>57070106>MexicanAny official Spanish you find in Pokemon is always Spaniard Spanish.
>>57070229There is a difference?
>>57070189This is why bo3 and sideboards should exist >>57070196Because the whales will pay anyway and the f2poors will be given an eternal mode where all their garbage is “””””playable””””” still>>57070204ygo is literally the only one that didn’t realize a standard rotation is fantastic for the long term health of the game>>57070218Ah, so you WANT yugioh levels of bullshit then? Okay, have fun with that
>>57070106Gratz on your Blastoise Grande
>>57070246>defending rotationKill yourself
so when we can use this?
>>57070257Zettai
>>57070249Your options- as proven by history- are rotation and power creep. You’re a damned retard if you think that the latter is better
>>57070240YES, a lot, Spaniard Spanish uses loads of stupid words that pissed off Latam Spanish speakers, for example "close combat" which translates into "combate de cerca" becomes "al bocajarro", "tackle" should be just "embestida " but spaniards put "placaje" instead. You know this is bad when games like BoTW/ToTK and MH Rise put both "spanish" and "latam spanish" as options.
Should I get a second moltres ex or go for arcanine? I already have 2 charizard ex, a regular charizard and regular moltres
>>57070179>>57070177late reply, hard agree on something with dual needs to change but i work with what they're allowing us. luckily i have a pika and char deck of my own but i hate boring games, even if you are guaranteed to win. that's why the spoon is alongside my other memes, buts its an interesting cross section of nonex, fun, and can win with good timing. tl;dr its fun and no money spent
>>57070261Even with rotation powercreep happens, plus rotation is the most jewish of all things
>>57070246>>57070261Fuck off, the main point of pocket is to collect cards with battling being something secondary, rotation takes away cards forever, destroying the point of pocket. Wanna competitive bullshit? Go to play Live.
>>57070272Live is shit though
>>57070266>even with rotation power creep happensIt took magic 30 years to finally start having actual, real power creep. It only happens alongside rotation when the jews get involved
>>57070196If they announce rotation I am droping the game on the spotShit like that is the main reason yugioh is the only other card game I have ever touched
>>57070262Ah I could see how that would get annoying. It would be like the Brits and them misspelling center all the time the time or how they call cookies biscuits.
>>57070272basically every game with rotation has an eternal format you can play your old cards in
>>57070272>collecting cards is the point I mean, you’re right. That’s what this game is for. So what the fuck does it matter to you how they handle a “secondary” part of the game>>57070280You’re a retard. Go away
>>57070264What’s the lore on Dallas Mower Expo?
>>57070284Because rotation will also take away old card sets from the "open packs" menu.
>>57070257They'll GS Ball it and it disappears from our inventory someday without anyone noticing
I prefer powercreep where older stuff regains relevance by incorporating them into the reach of the new cards, what I don't like about rotation is they could replace a nice version of a card with an ugly versionLike, I have a strong attachment to the illustrated Machamp EX but don't care as much about its other versions, so if they rotate it out to introduce some other ugly Machamp art then that just loses my interest completely in playing with the deck
>>57070279>when>GAME FREAK inc. in the credits
>>57070281Yeah, also both spaniards and latam hate each other way to speak spanish.
>>57070240Ironically Spaniards speak one of the worst versions of the Spanish language, only tied with Chile.
>>57070280Same, can't stand rotation, I think the only people who even like it are stockholmed into it because it's all they know
>>57070290and you know this for certain how?
>>57070287https://youtu.be/PTdxPliBdZs?t=15
>>57070306We don't know if will happen but we also don't know if will NOT happen and always assume the worst by default.
>>5707030050% of that vocabulary comparison it's wrong.
>>57070303If having rotation will make a lot of people quit on the spot I didn’t want them in my game anyway. Go back to yugioh
>>57070300>spaniards and latam hate each other way to speak spanish.Only the brainlets brainwashed into an us v them culture war, which are the majority.
>>57070316How much have you spent on this game to delude yourself into thinking it's only your game?
>>57070324I just have enough brainpower to understand that any place I exist in is not worthy of the yugioh crowd
>>57070322No, we just can't stand how each other sound, when I was a kid my dad liked to buy pirate dvd but they almost always come with spaniard dubs, I absolutely hated the way they soeak and how everysingle male and female sounds the same, did they use the same dub actors for all the movies? I can't fucking stand Spaniards speaking and I damn sure they can't stand me.
pikacuh kill shot
>>57070328>I just have enough brainpowerSure, your words, not mine
>>57069891can't wait to put four xspeeds and leafs into my koga deck and be doubly annoying
there is NOTHING to do
>>57070316>in my gameWonder if it's pure arrogance or if you made your personality this game>>57070328Seems to be the former
>>57070340only koga "heals" the weezing though
>>57070189>people asking for sideboard / side deckI get it, but that shit is anti-fun. No reason not to have something like that set up for big tournaments, though. Wouldn’t be any more difficult than submitting a deck list. I still am not a huge fan of the concept, simply because it only serves to make good decks even better.
>>57070343Until December 17.
>>57070340>Four x-speedYou can only put two of any card.
>>57070352>anon doesn't know what 2 + 2 is
>>57070335I won't continue this /int/ topic after this, but I hope you can overcome the conditioning eventually.
>mew expansion is coming with a new set of proper solo battles with rewardshell yeah
>>57070352four (x speeds and leafs)
>>57070358Nah, I will forever me mad. Pic unrelated.
>>57070363only for most in this thread to clear the solos in one day and then complain there's nothing to do
I'm a brainlet, is Mew Ex an ally or a replacement for Mewtwo Ex?
>>57070367*Be madFucking typos.
So the new set with 3 separate packs comes out in january, right? Damn, it took me this whole time to even get close to finishing the first
>>57070343Open your packGet your five daily thanks through battlingCheck for free bonus picks every few hours
>>57069915But fire decks are literally RDW
arr dee double you
Holy mental illness
>>57070386what am I looking at
>>57070386My goal was to get the three immersives, but Pikachu is a cunt.
>>57069986There's clearly a trainer on the card.>>57070060We did as of next week.
>>57070395>We did as of next weekDo zoomers not know how to peak using both past and future participles at once?
>>57070370if you replace mewtwo ex with mew ex you will straight lose to pikachu and possibly other match ups
>>57070338Needs double colourless to work
>>57070405Zoomies can't do anything without AI. It's worse than doublespeak. At least with doublespeak we know it's a human's actual thoughts and not predictive slop
>>57070413So, the deck would need the Ralts line, two Mewtwo ex, and two Mew ex cards to work?
>>57070426Mew ex wouldn't even need to be on a psychic deck
>>57070240no
>>57070426I don't think you would need more than 1x of mew ex in the mew2/garde deck.
>>57070300>horno/microondasJAJA
>>57070240
She released me from chasing full art Erika and Sabrina which means stop opening only Charizard packs.
>>57070448I hope her full art looks nice, would be nice if there's more to it than how the Kanto GLs just had a generic colored sparkly background but I'm not holding my breath
>>57070395just like how item cards have trainer written of it but are called item
put him in, coach, he's ready
>already bought out the shop including 20 dustAnd I thought I'd only be able to buy the coin and profile pic at most when the event began
And my Wonder Pick streak continues, I got what I wanted 4 times in a row, I dunno how I keep doing this.
>>57070462>Moltres? Articuno? Leave em to me
>>57070477I don’t think people realize how much this is going to make them seethe yet. Pincurchin is already decent. This new card is essentially a better promo jiggly that works for pika decks.
>>57070481>Pincurchin is already decentThat's wrong but dedenne is good
>>57070481Why everyone acts like this card is OP as fick? Is a fucking coin flip! Fail and the rat is ded.
Nuooh
What are the chances of my account being banned for using a macro?I want to create a simple macro in Macrorify that works like this: enter a battle, concede , thanks, and repeat, but I'm not sure if this violates some rule of the app's terms of service.
There's no way they'd add Leaf and Green without Red.
>>57070493kek
>>57070508virtually unbannable
>>57070509They'll add Fire with Red
>>57070322>Only the brainlets brainwashed into an us v them culture warpretty much this, before it was 'I dont like the accent' but now is almost like black with 'we ws kings return the goldª'
>>57070484Nah, it’s decent. I’ve won several games that would have otherwise been unwinnable with pincurchin. 30 damage + a stun is a good last-resort for trapping / chipping a late game threat. Honestly, Dedenne only dealing 10 damage makes it strictly worse than Pincurchin in the late game, but it’s not like Pika decks want to get to that point to begin with.>>57070490>OPNo. New tech that works for Pika? Yep. The lightning basic lineup we have right now is pretty mediocre, so this card will be a viable option.
>>57070509I feel like they’ll want to hold off on doing Red for a little while, hype him up a bit and make sure he’s powerful enough to be meta-defining
You just know
>>57070534cringe
>>57070534cute
>>57070534Where is this even from
Finally got Mew
>>57070534kill yourself
>>57070543The official pokemon youtube channel
>>57070493Lel.I hate that card so much. Such shit art.
>>57070574>Such shit artPersonally, I enjoy beating randoms with the compacted colon. The turn 3 Golbat memes on M2 like you wouldn’t believe, and I’ve had games vs dark decks where a lone Onix had them shitting their pants. Wish it worked a bit better vs Pika, but the decks isn’t consistently fast enough to deal with the big basic board. Those are Wiggly coin flip games, usually.
>>57070426Aaaa
>>57070429Now that you mention it
>>57069915 (me)Ok how do I make a Fire deck work?>normal Zard>normal Ninetales>Arcanine EX>normal and full art Rapidash>Magmar>Flareon>normal Moltres>Heatmor>Salazzle>CentiskorchMaybe I just suck shit. I've been trying to beat Expert Venusaur but I don't have enough damage going out fast enough
>>57070591Play blaine
>>57070322You're either not familiar with the topic or being disingenuous. English translations are done for the all English speaking countries but Spanish translations are only done for Spain then used for all Spanish speaking countries. Imagine the English localization is done in Scottish English for Scotland and then used for all English speaking countries: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1jHfY0dDZxAIt's the same language but common phrases are culturally specific and don't translate easily, it feels like a different language at times. It's much more distinct than American and British English, both culturally and grammatically. Historically Spaniard translators have been notoriously bad and use the same style so all translations sound the same. It's like every english voice actor being forced to sound like either Homer, Marge, Lisa, or Bart. So not only do you get an almost different language but poor quality translations.
>>57070574Honestly once you play promo onyx next to FA diglett, you start to see the vision, I've become a fan
Playing anything but Starmie, Pikachu or Mewtwo just feels like a 50/50. The amount of coin flips in this game are outrageous. Nothing feels fun to play.
Should I hold all of my Hourglasses for Lucario EX? Or should I pull for meta as it comes? I'm worried that hoarding HGs will set off a flag on my account that will give me shit pulls.>>57070546Congrats bro
>>57069891Did the bulbasaur and magnemite wonder pick event end?
>>57070614>card game with a randomized deck and a coin flip that determines who gets an advantage at the start of the game>not 50/50I'll never understand where people draw their imaginary line.
>>57070534Her looking for a tinder match.
>>57070591use arcanine ex and ninetales. and/or rapidash. not having moltres ex hampers you a bit.thing is though, you probably can't take on expert with just those cards unless the computer bricks and you get the perfect starting hand....now if you have 2 copies of blane, just make a blaine deck.
I wonder if I can finish my Pokemon Elite Emerald Redux 2.5 run before the new set releases. I wanted to experiment with some more decks, but since the miniset actually looks kinda good, maybe I'll just wait so I don't burn myself out on bad coinflips.
>>57070623>Did the bulbasaur and magnemite wonder pick event end?Second part just started today.
>>57070618>Should I hold all of my Hourglasses for Lucario EX? Or should I pull for meta as it comes? I'm worried that hoarding HGs will set off a flag on my account that will give me shit pulls.Was that card datamined for the mini set releasing tuesday? No? Then you'd be saving for months.Save up for the mini set releasing tuesday regardless.
>>57070016His image was taken from Reddit.
arceus deck when
>>57070626Yes, theres obviously that, but I don't think i've ever played a card game that made me literally feel like i'm at vegas throwing dice before. A lot of decks literally DO NOT FUNCTION unless you properly hit the coin flip you need.
Anyone have a good package for this dummy? I'm trying a 2x + Areodactyl and its working pretty well
>>57070659Forgot this
Isn't the new Mew card just a straight up better Ditto in basically every way?
>Play the event to get my 5 wins award>some person tries very carefully to setup mewtwo EX with the usual gardevoir shit>I drop my pickahu Ex in two turns and kill it and the dude forfeits
>>57070614>feels like a 50/50This is a game where going first is practically a death sentence (all else equal), especially in the mirror. It's balanced around the coinflips, including how badly going first usually fucks you over. >anything but Starmie, Pikachu or MewtwoIt's all coinflips, anon. Coinflips on going first, coinflips on matchups, coinflips on opening hand, coinflips on everything you need being the last 2 cards of the deck, coinflip on if you ever see your Oaks and Pokeballs, coinflip on whether or not your opponent bricked, coinflip on if they're playing Red Card, coinflip on if their Red Card is bad for you or for them. All of it's coinflips, some cards are just more brazen about it. Don't take the game too seriously. As much as autists here try to meme it being a skill based game, it's not one. Just because it is remotely possible to misplay doesn't make it skill intensive. >Nothing feels fun to play.Start building random decks and trying out cards you've never played with before. You might find a card that you didn't know you liked. I've been shilling Exeggutor EX for the past few days because I didn't think he would be as good as he is. I also really liked the Tentacruel/Greninja deck. That one feels kinda like a MtG deck to me for some reason, even if it's overall power level is a bit low due to not having any EXs and having a trash matchup into Pikachu.
>>57070395>>57070405It's a Celebi time travel joke.
>>57070670Can’t copy the benched attacks, but otherwise, it’s a whole lot more consistent in copying *something*.
>>57070670Mew can only copy opponent's active mon.
>>57070670ditto can copy on the bench and potentially for cheaperHaving to match the same energy makes it awful though
>>57070675I think it being able to be used regardless of energy color is going to run Ditto completely out (not like its in to start with but eh)
>>57070674I'll admit this made me chuckle
>>57070264>kird apebased
how do I play butterfree/venu deck? I keep losing. What's the point of running this over lilligant? Caterpie just keeps dying within their 1-2 moves.
>>57070272The Pokemon TCG tags blocks of cards for rotation with incremental letters. They started at A and currently cards tagged D, E, and F are legal in standard.In case you hadn't noticed, the Pokemon TCG Pocket sets are named A1, P-A, and A1a. Expect the trend to continue A2, A3, etc. until we hit the end of the rotation block and get B1 and P-B.>>57069650Exeggutor Alakazam is the one deck I'm actually looking forward to the new Exeggcute for.>>57070681I've only seen Ditto seriously used as a one-of to help in mirror matches.
>tracker gives me 92% chance of getting a new card when I open a Pikachu pack>no new card, not even a 3 diamond rarecool
>people learning there's rng in a card game for the first timeVery cute
>somehow keep getting very rare EX cards I don't useI have like 5 mewtwos and 6 charizards of varying rarities and I literally do not play those decks. Please stop giving me this shit. I want to play my godawful dragonite meme decks and I can't fucking pull what I want. The prices for buying the cards outright are also way too dumb high. Why the fuck does golem cost so much?
>>57070690Deck thinner
>>57070690You need either a damage sponge like Snorlax, or a decently bulky monster to pressure your opponent (kanga) as your starting basic for any hope.
>>57070690Don't let Caterpie die.
>>57070704>SnorlaxDon’t do that.
>>57070690>how do I play butterfree/venu deck?butterfree on the bench healing the shit out of venusaur. also potions and erika.>Caterpie just keeps dying within their 1-2 moves.probably need to put another basic stallmon in the deck until you have at least ivysaur ready to go.But honestly, butterfree is more suited for exeggutor ex. or do a venusaur ex/exeggutor ex deck.with only caterpie or bulbasaur in your deck, you don't have enough HP to last long enough while you build your mon.
>>57070699I'm aware that RNG is in card games, i've been playing for over 20 years. What i'm referring to is just how most of these decks are acutally non-functional without hitting the proper coin flips. Like cards/decks from yugioh/mtg/etc can actually work and do things without constantly having to flip a coin on whether you waste the entire turn or not.
>>57070690butterfree feels so overkill, vena is so fucking tanky already and besides you have erika, i would put an early poke that can wall/bother the opponent while vena prepares itself.
>>57070702Truly, the hardest cards to get are 3-diamonds locked to one pack that don't have a full art.
>>57070667>>57070670Ditto needs a support card like this
>>57070699>dunning kruger anon not realizing that the amount of RNG in this card game specifically is through the roof compared to any other actual card game
>>57070673This is dumbYou can build decks to minimize the harm of going first, to make the worst starting hands workable. Thats fine RNG. The problem is that there are archetypes where you can do that, and then theres shit like Marowak and Charizard
>>57070721>This is dumbNope. It's true. >You can build decks to minimize the harm of going firstNotice how you said "minimize the harm of going first" and not "make going first good".>to make the worst starting hands workableThere is no universe where "the worst starting hand" is workable. The only universe where "the worst starting hand" is workable is a universe where your opponent also drew their "worst starting hand" and you are going second. >Thats fine RNG.It's really not. If you think going first being objectively worse than going second is fine, you are wrong. That is not "fine" RNG. It is RNG that is possible to be overcome, due to the excessive layers of RNG found in this game, but it is not "fine" from a game design standpoint. If you cared about game design, which I am positive that PTCGP does not, you would fix going first immediately, but going first is not "broken", it is a "feature" and the game is balanced around it. >The problem is that The problem is that this is a children's coinflip card game where going first is significantly worse than going second, and people are trying to play it as if it's a more serious card game. There's also a problem where people are deluding themselves into thinking that going first is "fine" and is not purposely designed to be bad as a means to "balance" the game so that even children can win in it.
Would this be good?
>>57070721In a game as RNG-heavy as launch day PTCGP, the best choice is to play a high RNG deck.Embrace it.It's a metaphor for life.You can do everything right and the opposing Jolteon still flips four heads.You can be down two points, drop Misty and win.That's how life works.
I will agree that going first in this game feels absolutely ball bustingly awful. I groan any time I get heads on the flip because I just know unless I get a god hand that i'm utterly fucked. It might hep if first play got to mulligan or maybe draw an extra card of something.
>>57070743>Embrace it.>It's a metaphor for life.>You can do everything right and the opposing Jolteon still flips four heads.>You can be down two points, drop Misty and win.>That's how life works.Based and Hemmingway pilled.
>>57070743>>57070747based
>>57070742>60 HP>needs 3 energy to attack and its a 50 power attack at that>coin flip for energy and its only 1 energyWould never be used
>>57070745>turn 1>can't evolve. can't place energy. can't attack.why.jpg
>>57070742WHERE YOU GOT THIS PIC?! IS THERE MORE?!
>>57070742no
>>57070651people don't care about the horse stuck in a fence. We need to get actually cool legendaries in first
>>57070753https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/10xvlmn/what_do_yall_think_of_my_painted_sableye_card/for the arthttps://pokecardmaker.net/creatorfor the card
>>57070751You can with supporter cards, but that's about it I think. Misty is really the only one who can abuse this to any decent degree though
I believe there's some pity RNG, I got Venusaur EX before the event ended and had one energy left and it was the only card I could'nt get
>>57070765We might get 0-cost attacks someday
>>57070763Wait, I am retarded, I thought it was a card from the incoming mini set that got leaked.
>>57070742>illus. altpuppygirl...excuse me?
>>57070765>You can with supporter cards, but that's about it I think. Misty is really the only one who can abuse this to any decent degree thoughyeah right now misty is the only exception since it's the only card that adds energy to your mon.
>>57070781i always forget about him. lolprobably because I can't pull enough good fighting types for a fucking brock/fighting deck.
>>57070781Golem can't be in play turn 1, and 1 energy isn't enough for Onix.So while >>57070776is wrong, Brock still won't help you do anything turn 2 unless we get a new Onix.
>>57070781Being fair, the other supporter cards need evolved pokemon to work or the cards they do hit need like 3 to 4 energy to attack. Misty is the only one that can give 2+ energy to any water type on the field (usually lapras or articuno for an OHKO if the opponent only plays 1 basic as well)
>>57070781If this guy worked on all Fighting Pokemon the same way Misty does, Machamp might actually be good, because you could evolve into Machamp on curve going first and still be able to attack with him for 120.
>>57070775>altpuppygirlYou just know
>evolving a Pokemon removes sleepGood to know
>>57070690I would just play Lilli
>>57070797I think if they reworked the cards to something like "You can add energy to non-supported cards, but they cannot attack this turn" would make pokemon like machamp more viable. You could get the energy to them, but you'd still need to wait a turn to use it, whereas supported pokemon like onix or golem wouldn't be harmed by the change.
>>57070750HP and attack are non-issues. The ability to feed energy is the only thing that matters. That would see play 100%.
>>57070815It has to be in the active spot. Its far too fragile and you'd more often than not just give the enemy a free point in exchange for maybe 1 energy on something else.
>>57070815yeah it's a free misty every turn, so funny to see people call it bad
>>57070820>It has to be in the active spot.It does *not* need to be in the active spot. The ability does not say "if this Pokemon is your active Pokemon". Have you never played a Pokemon with an Ability before?
>>57070797Brock should at least also work on Geodude/Graveler, needing to wait for Golem is absurd.Right now you either>Play Graveler and can already use Rollout, so Golem only needs one more energy next turn>Play Graveler and only reach 2 energy so he's worthless.He could have also affected the other gen 1 rock types, Rhydon and the Fossils.But if you could go first in a Brock deck and have Geodude attack, it wouldn't send Brock to the top of the meta, it would just make it a passable option vs. Pikachu.
>>57070719>playing a card game that inherently has rng by its very nature like every card game and losing your mind over another piece of rngIt makes no difference to me whether I coin flip whenever i draw something or flip an actual coin, just because you see it doesn't make it follow different rules of statistics
>>57070825Ah, you're right. I read benched and just thought about it being active. My point still stands with a sabrina though, but its not as bad as I first thought.
>>57070781Unironically better than Surge.
This is the best deck I've played on this app, it's so much fun and you punish so many decks
>>57070775>altpuppygirlIf you know, you know.
Are the trainer support cards really that bad or is misty just skewing things because of how busted she is?
>>57070835I keep getting this card. how this list
>>57070826>Brock should at least also work on Geodude/GravelerOnix can work at the moment due to the rarity of grass decks, but you’re right. The biggest problem with Golem aside from the obvious issues with getting a stage 2 on board (with a massive recoil) is that Graveler fucking sucks.
>>57070839>mewtwoProbably don't need this, desu. Realistically speaking, will you ever actually get him up to fighting stance in time? You might be better off running something else you can use immediately.
>>57070838Oak, Gio and Sabrina are great, almost auto-includes in most decks. Misty is busted, Erica is only curbed by grass being underpowered, Koga + Weezing is an obnoxious combo. Only Brock/Surge/Blaine feel lackluster since they don't do much and can only be applied to a few cards. Had they worked on any pokemon of their type (Fighting/Electric/Fire) I think they'd be as strong as Misty.
>>57070845he's just there to buy time
>>57070838I think it's more of a lack of support cards in game. I mean basically everyone uses x2: poke ball, professor research, x speed and sabrina by default so until we get more cards, they won't start to make a bigger impact in game.
>>57070837That baby is gonna be a normal human though, remember that in Pokemon the species of a baby will always be of the mother's.
>>57070847If he's there to buy time then you might want to try Kangiskhan. 1 energy for a potential 60 damage and has 100 HP while using any energy you have.
>>57070838Misty is 1000% overtuned. Brock is genuinely good, based on my experience with the Golbat/Onix deck. If/when better cards release for Brock to fuel, you’ll see it more often. Surge is the only bad support right now (draining all benched energy is not good), but even that has uses.
>>57070775I looked her up and found a reddit account with that name. Apparently they made that art and also did pregnant OF content.
>>57070835What variant, anon? I play Poizakazam with Weezing but I've seen some Hypno lists running around that look fun (if I ever pull a second Hypno)
>>57070827>losing your mindYou don't need to make projectionist, facetious arguments of extremes, anon. You're better than that. >It makes no difference to me whether I coin flip whenever i draw something or flip an actual coin, just because you see it doesn't make it follow different rules of statisticsDo you not realize that this is more Dunning-Kruger for you? Of course you don't. Going first is significantly worse than going second, and it's decided by a coinflip. In other card games, the person who wins the beginning "coinflip" gets to choose whether they go first or second, but not in this game. That's an extra layer of RNG that other card games don't have, and it is a massive one that dictates most of the matches you play. There's also weakness matchup coinflips where your opponent's deck is literally designed to beat your deck by sheer virtue of the color that it is, not necessarily by the agnostic cards themselves. This goes far beyond the typical card game's "bad archetype matchups", and you could just coinflip into your counter deck. Then there's the actual coinflips, which most decks have. You can Misty and win the game. You can Marowak and win the game. You can Moltres and win the game. You can Exeggutor and win the game. Etc. There are many, many, many more layers of RNG to Pokemon TCG Pocket than there are in any other real card game, and for you to pretend to not be able to see it is a sign that you are either a shitposter or genuinely not smart enough to realize what you are shitposting about.
>>57070838The other gym leaders?>BrockOnly works on two mons with high energy cost>SurgeYou'll only use him for a game-winning smash from Raichu, it doesn't matter that it works in Electabuzz/Electrode>ErikaExists to keep Venusaur alive, but the problem is that healing your own monsters doesn't score you any points.>KogaEssentially a full restore on Weezing given its one-energy cost, and kind of gets around Muk's absurd retreat cost. Excellent to annoy Mewtwo decks.>SabrinaAmazing card. At a minimum, force your opponent to burn an energy/x-speed, and at best pick up a point or two>BlaineFacilitates the fastest deck in the game. Going first and doing 70 with Rapidash is great, and 120 from Ninetales KOs Pikachu.>GiovanniHe helps pick up a KO surprisingly often.
>>57070838>brock can only add 1 energy to two specific pokemon>lt surge can only send energy to 3 specific pokemon and they have to be in the active slot>koga can return only 2 pokemon from the active spot back to your handErika's healing is pretty solid for the archetype but the rest of them are pretty underwhelming in their effects only being useful in really specific situations compared to misty's flip coin for potentially infinite energy
>>57070853But the girl from the official Typhlosion fanfiction had Cyndaquil babies.
>>57070673>I've been shilling Exeggutor EX for the past few days because I didn't think he would be as good as he isExegutor EX is getting better with the new Exeggcute card, you can literally put Exegutor in any deck. Also, post that Tentacruel Greninja, you got me curious
>>57070860>pregnant OF contentdemons walk among us
>>57070876>ou can literally put Exegutor in any deckI'm pretty sure the caveat will be that your deck still needs to generate grass energy for the attack to work, but it would make multi energy decks using grass types better.
>really want to play gengar>hes kinda booty cheeksDamn
>>57070884Miniset soon..... The miniset will save Gengar.... more supporters means Gengars ability gets even better....
>>57070739If your deck cannot function correctly if it goes first, you have a bad deck
>SeadraWhat the fuck is this nonsense? 3 energy for a 50 damage attack that is random?
>>57070889Most decks in the game can't function properly while going first because of how energy is allocated and how coin flips can make an entire turn worthless. Its why decks like Pikachu and Mewtwo are so strong, because their setup is easy and they just shit damage without having to worry about a bad flip.
>>57070887ah yes gengar will be able to block *checks notes* fighting type decks from using Leaf. Wow, what a strong effect>>57070891Kingdra soon, trust the plan
>>57070876>Exegutor EX is getting better with the new Exeggcute card, you can literally put Exegutor in any deck.Yes, I am aware. I made a post gushing about how good the new cards are for Exeggutor. He really wants a 2-3 energy cost basic or stage 1 Pokemon as a "finisher", and now you can put him in literally any deck, and also he's getting Mew EX as possibly the exact finisher he needs, and he's also getting Aero EX. That one might not be as good, but I'm absolutely going to put new Exeggcute in a pure Fighting deck as the only basic Pokemon, where I run 2 Amber and 2 Aero EX and maybe also 2 regular Aero as the finishers. It will also be cool to be able to play him in Alakazam without being awkward. Then there's all the cards we don't know about too. It seems to be a better miniset than I was ever hoping it would be.>post that Tentacruel Greninjapic. I'm still not sold on the Misty in this deck. It doesn't really need it, but it helps going first. Another Sabrina or maybe even another Potion might be better. >>57070881>I'm pretty sure the caveat will be that your deck still needs to generate grass energy for the attack to workIf this actually a stipulation, then new Eggs is just a sad nothingburger.
>>57070891dragonite from wish
>>57070690you're supposed to run Venusaur with Pidgeot
>>57070690Venu is kinda shit, butterfree+eggs is better
>>57070891Seadra, Golbat, Rhydon, Tangela, etc. are shit because they'll evolve later.Magmar (both versions) are just shit for no reason at all.
>>57070889>all of the top meta decks are "bad" according to anon>except for Misty decks that roll headsGoing first is simply objectively worse than going second. That's just an objective fact and not one that's up for debate. All decks can "function" while being 1 attack and 1 energy "behind", it's just not an advantageous position. Even decks that """like""" going first would prefer to go second.
>>57070891where did you pull the word random from
>>57070891I'm convinced a lot of the water types are shit and have high energy cost because they're all balanced around misty being bullshit
>>57070881Brock doesn't require you to have Fighting energy, why would eggs?
What if they gave Delibird for Christmas to every player? It would be cool. Would this design be playable?
>>57070838Misty is a great effect with great targets.Sabrina and Giovanni are great effects.Koga is a good effect with good targets.Erika and Blaine are good effects with bad targets.Lt. Surge is a bad effect with bad targets.Brock is a great effect with awful targets.
>>57070909New Magmar has a shot with Blaine. Being Basic and matching Ninetails is solid.
>>57070909Magmortar exists...
>>57070781>want to play brock>only works on golem and onixfucking lmao, why is this card so trash
>>57070915it doesn't? I wouldn't have guessed that because why would you run brock with no fighting energy when onix needs 3 fighting energy?
>>57070921Boob Burn!
>>57070923I've been playing an Onix deck lately that is pretty fun, but it basically demands you go second or you get behind easy.
>>57070921aww they're so cute together
>>57070918I fuck with it, 50 damage is enough to impactful as a basic and 20 healing isn't a big deal if you plan on having it out early.
>>57070919>Erika and Blaine are good effects with bad targets.Exeggutor is a very good target. >Lt. Surge is a bad effect with bad targets.Lt. Surge is a good enough effect that it is the driving force behind the best variant of arguably the best deck in the format.
>>57070921wtf I love these 2 now
>>57070926But Golem only needs 1. There's a few decks built around the concept. You turn off Fighting and use another pokemon while setting up your Geodude and then you use Brock to for the final Fighting requirement.
>>57070920yeah, blaine decks are well enough to have energy to spare
>play misty>nothing but instant tails>opponent plays misty >minimum 2 water energy every timeEbin
>>57070949skill issue
>>57070920>New Magmar has a shot with BlaineNew Magmar does not kill Pikachu the same way Ninetales does, and there is not enough fire energy in the game for Blaine to be able to run 2 different Pokemon that have attacks which cost 2 energy and discard 1 energy.
>>57070944You'd be heavily relying on getting that brock, though, but it could be worth a try to see how it works at least.
>>57070863Yeah it's pretty easy to bait brainlet autist seethe into typing long essays about how he's shit at the game and doesn't have the first clue what he's talking about, second turn advantage is child's play compared to yugioh going first and is basically aggro decks on the play in any gameI know you're too autistic to not sperg out every thread about your little retarded feelings because you lost one coin flip out of the dozens you take in a game tho, carry on shitter
>>57070875No she didn't. She had a human child that eventually turned into a Typhlosion. It was never a Cyndaquil.>>57070933Exeggutor is the only good target so you're left running bad targets or non-targets alongside it.>the driving force behind"Best variant" is arguable but the top lists for that deck only run one Lt. Surge.They'd rather risk not drawing him by the mid game than increase the risk of drawing him in the early game.And Lt. Surge is of almost no value in the late game because you can charge Raichu directly by then.
>>57070952>and discard 1 energy.A1a Magmar discards 2 energy lmao.
>>57070900Trying this deck out and its pretty funny. I traded out the x speed and potion for another misty and 1 articuno though. Articuno pairs well with Greninja and the poison stacking from Tenta. Even if they retreat them, I can still reach them. I've also had 1 funny OHKO with Misty + Articuno so far
>>57070534now you know https://files.catbox.moe/54srf9.jpg
>>57070957>Exeggutor is the only good targetYeah, but he's a great target. You could argue Venu too. So Erika is a good effect with 1 phenomenal target and 1 mediocre target.>the top lists for that deck only run one Lt. Surge.Yeah? You only need 1 Raichu to close out the game and early Surge is a dead draw. I don't understand why you think this helps your argument. You said Lt. Surge is a bad effect with bad targets. I think it is a decent effect with only 1 real target, which is decent enough to enable the best variant of Pikachu. >>57070963>A1a Magmar discards 2 energy lmao.Jesus Christ. What the fuck were they thinking? If there isn't some fire energy support, new Magmar is just a dead card.
>>57070966Standard Articuno or ex?
>>57070977It's pack filler. Welcome to 75% of the card pool.
>>57070963This is such a bad card I get secondhand cringe whenever I look at it
>>57070979EX, but regular might work too? I haven't tried it. I grabbed the EX version just because it also dealt bench damage.
>>57070979>Even if they retreat them, I can still reach them
>>57070898Going first pikachu can put an ex into the active and tank a hit while they power up a pikachu, then switch into it with xspeed. Going first, mewtwo can get gardevoir online a turn faster, minimizing risk of a Sabrina sniping it. They’re the best decks because they’re the most consistent, yes, but neither are already looking at the next game if they go first. >>57070911>muh objectivelyAnd you’ve already lost me. Going first lets you evolve faster, lets you get your engine rolling sooner. It’s not “you always want to go second,” it’s “going second is usually better depending on the deck/matchup/draw but going first isn’t necessarily a game over”If going first were always an auto loss then how come some decks have winrate higher than 50% and some have lower?
>>57070972I'm surprised I hadn't seen this sooner.
>got a 9 water misty>I hovered the card over a pokemon instead of putting it to the side so the ENTIRE LOT went to the wrong cardThis shit is actually so funny that it works this way. Its so easy to do this by mistake
Is it bad that i think TCG pocket because of how simple the presentation and gameplay is? I miss when mobile games were extremely simple pick up and play games rather than triple AAA 3d trash on your phone.
>>57070986>And you’ve already lost me.I'm sorry that you insist on being in these threads without actually playing the game.>If going first were always an auto lossI never said this. You replied to my post, so I assumed that you would have read it, but apparently not. Oh well. You're just a shitposter anyway.
>>57070996*i think tcg pocket is good becauseoop
>>57070996Nah, that's also why I like it.
I think this is the best gamba deck at the moment.Kingler hits for 80 no matter what, Seaking has lots of early one-shot potential, Articuno for tanking while you power-up.The latter two also have low retreats, so you can easily switch in after a lucky Misty flip.
>>57070996The only thing it needs is dark mode
I'm glad that its basically completely agreed upon that going first in this game is just utterly awful and has very few advantages outside of a few niche interactions
>>57070956>it's pretty easy to bait
>there are people itt who didn't get the 5 winsHoly fuckin copium
>>57070963Still 2 retreat cost with that discard effect lol.
>>57071013It's obvious to anyone who has ever played any other card game before. It's probably even obvious if you have never played another card game before.
>>57070977>You said Lt. Surge is a bad effect with bad targets. I think it is a decent effect with only 1 real targetNot him. Surge is a bad effect, no matter how you slice it. If it allowed you to choose the # of energy to move, it would be good. Surge is a 1x meme in decks running Raichu until lightning gets a better method of generating energy. It really doesn’t help that Raichu is often going to find itself needing to knock out a M2 from full, and a Surge in that scenario means you can’t Gio.To be valuable, Surge has to be used in scenarios where you will either win the game from a resulting knockout or only have 2/3 energy on the bench. It’s shit outside of those two cases, and its only good target is also a brick in the early game. An early Raichu exists to get slapped and (hopefully) run to the bench.
>>57070996It reminds me of playing base-jungle-fossil in the 90's and for that reason it's cool. Ptcgl moves so fast by comparison and has ridiculous numbers, really shows you how much the game has powercrept since that eraHowever it's a gacha so for that reason it's gay.So the truth is somewhere in the middle.
>>57071013>that going first in this game is just utterly awfulExcept for the numerous decks that run WeezingOr BlaineOr any deck with a one energy attack stage 1Or any Misty deckOr any deck that wants to evolve asapThese aren't "niche"
>>57071018This lol
>>57071028What horrors will Annihilape unleash when its stage 1 already swings for 100?
>>57071023>Surge is a bad effect, no matter how you slice it.It's a decent enough effect with a decent enough target to single handedly enable the arguably best variant of what is arguably the best deck. There's no amount of downplaying anyone can do to change this fact. In order for a card to be """a bad effect""" with """bad targets""", I would argue that it needs to be a card that is not played in top meta decks. The mere existence of Surge in tournament winning decks proves that it is not a """bad effect""" with """bad targets""". >To be valuableLuckily, Surge is most valuable when the Pikachu EX deck is at its weakest (in the mid-late game).
>>57071018List?
>>57071018No way you won using a melmetal deck. I call haxx
>>57071013You could build a deck that has pokemon that benefit from going first. Marowack, eggs, and weezing are 1 energy cards that can evolve on turn 3. They want to go first
>>57071023>Not him. Surge is a bad effect, no matter how you slice it.Pretty sure it'd be a great card if you could pair it with better targets like Mewtwo Ex or even Melmetal that are both energy hungry and can hit several turns in a row afterwards.
>Get ravenous for fullarts>Delete every single friend to optimize wonder picks>Even Emily the cute Eeveetwink>No one posting pickable God Packs anymoreI DESERVE THISSSS
I will sunk and jork your peanits for gold
>>57071035>arguably best variant of what is arguably the best deckYou say that like it means anything at this point. There are at least 3 Pika variants that are roughly the same strength, and the existing data can be interpreted a few different ways. >In order for a card to be """a bad effect""" with """bad targets"""It’ll get dropped fast when a good lightning basic drops. The problem the deck has right now is that the basics outside of Pika/Zap ex are pretty mediocre, so even a card like Raichu can be valuable. And it’s objectively better to have that 140 swing primed with a Gio in hand than it is to go for the Surge play.>Luckily, Surge is most valuable when the Pikachu EX deck is at its weakest (in the mid-late game).Correction: it’s best in the mid game. Stack energies on the non ex Pika if Raichu is your out. Surge might be redeemed in the future, but its effect is bad. See the new Vaporeon effect if you want to see what a good Surge looks like.
There's no way to get a Lapras EX right now, is there? Also>>57069891Nuh-uh, my main deck all has a 1 retreat cost.
>>57071054But you can’t. If we are getting a Raichu ex in the new set that can abuse Surge, it might completely redeem the card. As is, it’s going to take a really good Electrode/Raichu/Electabuzz/Electavire to redeem, and by that point, I wouldn’t be surprised if Surge was completely outclassed.
>>57071066no, maybe it'll be tradeable by February
>>57070972dang it exists guess i don't have to do it myself
>>57071066Correct, all gameplay-unique promos from the PvE events (Lapras ex, Jigglypuff, Haunter, and Mankey) are currently unavailable.
>>57070963The art is worseThe effect is worseWhy even attempt it when you have Ninetales?
>>57070963>flamethrower is 10 more base power and only discards 1 energy>this shit discards BOTH for seemingly no reason
>>57071076Please feel free to bless us with your take. I like knots.
>>57070963If Magmar poisoned at the end of the move, then it would.. still be shit tier, but at least it would have a niche.
That tentacruel deck might be one of my new favorites. The 50 damage + poison is actually great damage.
>>57071091>poisonedWhy not burn?
>>57071092You might like what Nido decks have to offer.
>>57071071But that doesn't mean the effect is bad, just the targets, and we're going to get new versions of those pokemon. Just like Brock's effect is very good, and likewise suffers from bad options.>>57071087the reason is it's a basic pokemon
>>57071097I just said poison because I don't know if Burn exists in TCG, kek
>>57071092Golduck is pretty good too at an immediate 70 damageIt does only have 90HP however
>>57070742>conditional Gardevoir except it's basic and can be any energyDefinitely can see it as a one-of in decks like Zard
>>57071104In the physical card game, but has had two main versions:Original:>Between turns flip a coin, if tails, take 20 damage, if heads nothing, but you stay burnedCurrent>Between turns take 20 damage, then flip a coin. If heads, burn is healed.
>>57070742Wait, energy zones are in the real TCG?
>>57071116It's a fan mockup
>>57071101It being basically is not enough justification for how awful this ability is
>>57071112Ah, so it's like how badly poisoned was early on.
>>57071064>You say that like it means anything at this point.Seeing regular play in one of the top meta decks means that it is not a "bad effect" with "bad targets". I don't know why you aren't understanding this. >It’ll get dropped fast when a good lightning basic drops.Possibly. It will also see a reSurgence if they print a good Raichu, Electrode, or Electabuzz - even more likely if it works on EXs. >The problem the deck has right now is that the basics outside of Pika/Zap ex are pretty mediocre>so even a card like RaichuI think the problem with Pikachu is that by mid-late game, the other decks are doing better stuff than Pika is. That *is* what the problem is. And Raichu patches that hole. >it’s objectively better to have that 140 swing primed with a Gio in hand than it is to go for the Surge play.Sure, but slow building Raichu is not always an option. >CorrectionNo, anon. Surge is most valuable when the Pikachu EX is at its weakest (in the mid-late game). There is no correction needed. >See the new Vaporeon effectI don't disagree that Vaporeon is good, but that doesn't make Surge a "bad effect" with "bad targets". You really should just concede and say that it's a "decent effect" with "1 decent target currently", and that would be fine with me. That's also just the truth, so you wouldn't even be lying.
>>57070963The only possible reason to use this card is if you despise Charizard so much you refuse to build a deck around it.
Cloysterbros...
>>57071129and also ninetails. and also just the normal magmar. this card is more ass than his forehead
Fossils feel kinda shitty to play. Not being able to search them out feels bad.
>>57071101>doesn't mean the effect is badMaybe, but let’s put it another way. Surge is bad / underwhelming *unless* we get a means of lightning energy production and/or better targets. It’s not a good place to be in, and I don’t have optimism that the situation will improve before the card is entirely irrelevant. Happy to be proved wrong. Just don’t think it will happen.>Just like Brock's effect is very good, and likewise suffers from bad options.I think Brock is way better than Surge for the sole reason that it can make Onix work, whereas Raichu usually serves its purpose without Surge. Brock is decent now. Surge is often not.
I got the 5 wins but 2 of the 5 were because my opponents consneeded immediately (probably due to bricked hands).
>>57071141This onix looks like he's nutting or something. What kind of facial feature is that?
>>57071136There are at least 2 anons who were saying that Magmar will see play in Blaine. These types of people actually inhabit this thread.
>>57071138For the last time, fossils are based because they don't count to your opening hand quota.
>>57071126>You really should just concede and say that it's a "decent effect" with "1 decent target currently", and that would be fine with me. That's also just the truth, so you wouldn't even be lying.No. I’m not stroking your ego because you asked, goofball. I’m fine with agreeing to disagree. Wouldn’t even be mad to be proven wrong through some new synergy coming from the miniset / set 2. I’m just not optimistic at this point.
>>57071143Don't want to burst your bubble but there are a bunch of predditors insta conceding since they've already got the symbol. It's more likely it's them.
>>57071143I got my win streak and I just concede each morning until I get my five tranny tickets.Well, that's not completely true.I display my winstreak badge and will play the full match against anyone else also displaying the 5-win badge.
>>57071138They're way better than in the TCG but yeah, a fossil search card would be nice.
>>57071141Well you already have the energy production, Magneton comes online both earlier and more consistently than Gardevoir.
>>57071155>I’m fine with agreeing to disagree.>"I'm more than happy doubling down and sticking to my original argument that Surge is not only a bad effect (it's not a bad effect) but it also has bad targets (it has 1 decent target)">"I would rather be objectively wrong than admit that maybe I was being a little harsh or extreme"Alright then. If you are happy to be wrong, then you can be wrong. https://www.pokemonmeta.com/top-decks/community-tournaments/ursiiday's-pocket-weekly-(1536-players)/6/pikachu-ex/hanamon/tNc0g
>>57071165In a vacuum, yeah. But in the typical lightning deck, there’s not much room for magneton, and if there is, there isn’t room for 2 copies. Combine that with magneton being otherwise underwhelming and raichu missing that critical 150 break point, and it’s not the best thing to build around. Saying “surge is bad” doesn’t mean that it can never work. I’m only saying it isn’t consistent or valuable enough to be good.
>>57071152You mean retards? Because that's nothing new
>>57071159lmfao why would a fossil have an ability
>>57071173>Alright then. If you are happy to be wrong, then you can be wrong. You too, fren :^)
Oh that dendenne card is gonna be cancer isnt it? an electric basic that can stop you from attacking…
>>57070972
>>57071183Yes. It’s a promo jiggly that does damage, has more health, and works in pika decks.
>>57071179Pity-buff to make them less unplayable garbage (they are still unplayable garbage).
>>57071183It gets one more opportunity to attack than Pincurchin but does a third the damage.
>>57071182>:^)I posted evidence of Surge being at the very least decent, and having at the very least 1 decent target, as evidence by it winning the 1500 player egirl tournament. This alone disproves your argument. You are objectively wrong and too stubborn to admit it on an anonymous forum where no one even knows who you are.
Bros, I just lost my 9-win streak to a brick...
>>57071150he's snoozing you cumbrain
>>57071179>Construction crew comes over with the blueprints to landscape the field>See a swirly rock lying on the ground.>"Shiet, guess we gotta cancel the plan."
>>57071173How are people having tournaments?
>>57071191the damage is less important than immediately letting you force coinflips and for one less energy. your not likely to kill much with pincurchin anyway, it's just there to buy time, which dedenne will let you do better.
>>57071092There's a reason I use it as tech in my lapras ex deck
>>57071200Probably private match codes and challonge or something.
>>57071192You’re entirely too confident in your own intelligence.
>>57070952>>57070963Holy shit, I didn't even read the 2 energies. I just assumed it was Centiskorch's fireblast. What the fuck are they doing to this poor lad?
>>57071173>This is what passes for a tournament deck
>>57071092Yeah, mine too. Glad you're liking it. It feels kinda like an MtG deck to me. I wasn't playing it with Articuno though. I just like the no EX goodness.
>>57071176I don't disagree that surge is bad (currently), I disagree that it's a "bad effect no matter how you slice it", said in response to "I think it's a decent effect with only 1 real target". You don't need to reiterate that raichu is underwhelming, I've already said that it suffers from a lack of good choices.
>>57071215The funniest part is that the deck is clearly banking on Raichu + Gio, and anon is using the 1x yolo Surge as evidence that the card is good. Its best target wants to use a different trainer support.
>>57071215have you considered maybe you are wrong and the hundreds of people using it to win tournaments are right?
>>57071210When I'm objectively correct, yeah. I'm also the first to admit when I don't know something. I don't mind being wrong, unlike some people. There is simply no arguing against the fact that Surge, at the very least, is a decent effect with 1 decent target, which also just so happens to fit perfectly into one of the top meta decks.
>>57071222It's evidence of either a stagnant meta or the fact that people don't know how to build decks, this list is nonsensical
>>57071222Yes. They are still wrong.
>>57071221>anon is using the 1x yolo Surge as evidence that the card is goodwhere did he call the card good
>>57071221>The funniest part>and anon is using the 1x yolo Surge as evidence that the card is goodDearest little shitposting, objectively incorrect anon, we have already been over this. I even agreed with you that slow building Raichu with a Gio (specifically to kill Mewtwo) is "better" than using Surge to 140 Raichu into a Mewtwo, but slow building Raichu is not always an option. Why are you being so shitty on purpose? We already had this exchange in this post: >>57071126
>>57071219It sounds like you’re agreeing with me but asking me to tell you that you’re correct. Just take the win, anon. I’ve already said that I’m not confident in support releasing anytime soon that will redeem Surge. From that viewpoint, the card is bad.
>have been trying to make Eelektross work>medium success because sometimes the para wins the game>realize it NEEDS a 1 energy tank 1 retreat tank to function because Kanga is unreliable as hell and often can’t get the fuck out of the way when Eel is ready, and everything else is too much energy>Realize the only candidate is Zapatista EX>Despite having pulled a ton of Pikachu packs and WP’d for it I still have 0
>>57071237you said something I disagreed with and when you replied to me you said more things I disagreed with idk what you expect from me
>>57071228based
>>57071239Just use Leaf with Kangaskhan.
>>57071246Not wasting space in the thread with drawn out posts that effectively repeat the same sentiment and even agree with my viewpoint would be a start.
>>57071227>this list is nonsensicalIt actually makes a lot of sense. You'd know this if you played this game, but you don't. Pikachu and Zapdos rule the early game in the Pika deck. The other Pokemon (Zebstrika, Electrode, Magneton, etc) are only there to fill up Basic slots for Pikachu EX's attack. They don't actually matter. Because they don't actually matter, they can functionally be anything. Pikachu EX's weakness is that by turn 5 or so, Pikachu needs to have won, because now you're dealing with Charizards and Mewtwos that are online. This is where Pikachu loses games. Because the basics in the deck outside of Pika and Zapdos don't actually matter, they can be anything. Ideally, they would be something that helps you in the mid-late game when Pikachu has run out of steam and the other meta decks are beginning to present their game-ending threats. That's where Raichu comes in. It's a 140 attack that (probably) ends the game and doesn't clog up the deck, because the filler basics don't matter anyway. This gives the Pikachu deck mid-late game pressure, and with Surge you don't even need to build the Raichu to swing with it, you just retreat the Pikachu that has taken a 50 from Mewtwo or whatever the situation is. The only "alternative" to this mid-late game wincon that Pikachu has is slow building the coinflips on Zapdos, which is not nearly as reliable as the 140 from Raichu.
leaf is good because now you only have to invest a single energy into moltres EX and you can still make it retreat without wasting anything
>>57071227and yet you are not winning tournaments with your "correctly" built deck.
>hand is bricked to shit>opp red cards
>>57071266I love when this happens.
>>57071018I simply didn't give a fuck. I got all the hourglasses from the event, which matter more.
>>57071266I wish we had emotes in this game just so I can spam thanks when this happens
I feel like Erica is going to need a nerf if they start releasing better grass types.
>>57071277Nah, on the turn you Erika you can't>Sabrina>Leaf>Blue>Giovanni>OakIt's fine.
Post Battle Record
>>57071277nah. not until you get to reshuffle your discard into your deck and use another card to pull it and can use it more than twice. grass types are about healing
>>57071284>210>1:3 win: points ratioDragonite chad detected
>>57071277Erika is fine. Misty, however, definitely needs nerf correction
>>57071292Your damn right friend
>>57071266This is how I won one of my games in the 5 in a row event
If they don't want to do card balancing, how are they expecting the game to not get completely overrun with 1 or 2 broken strats that suffocate the meta out?
>>57071284
>>57071301The same way they balance the irl game.
>>57071301Why would they give a shit about balancing? Going first is really bad, and Mew EX is about to be in every deck.
>>57071301powercreep obviously. I hope they do try to balance cards, it being a completely digital game means they can buff/nerf things as they please without making people get new cards. In the current meta it's not so much that the best cards are untouchable so much as they hit hard and everything else either needs rng to hit hard or doesn't hit hard at all, so I think buffing weaker cards should be on the table. It's not like people won't wanna pull for more cards when there's still 1k+ more pokemon to add to the game.
>>57071301I'll tell you, DeNA doesn't know what they're doing. Masters was completely PVE and they still struggled with that game. They're not going to know how to balance Pokemon PVP, both in terms of the meta and in terms of the basic battle system. This is why I'd prefer if they just stopped incentivizing PVP and left it as a sandbox for players to devise their own rules and logistics, and focus instead on building up PVE content. You can already see from the 5 in a row event it's very easy for them to do nonsense.
>>57071265I probably would If I bothered to enter tournaments
>>57071315I feel like people are overreaching with mew being in "every" deck. The attack is strong but it can only target pokemon that are already in the active slot, so anytime someone swaps in against it or forces it in with sabrina, it'll lose the exchange because it has to go second against a loaded up pokemon fresh from the bench.
>>57071324
>>57071328Not really, I don't care man, I just can spot a poorly deck built when I see one
>>57071324>I'm good, I just refuse to prove itpussy
>>57071301see>>57071308Creatures either>Creates a problem by accident>Creates a peoblem on purpose then in turn does one of the following:>Errata (very rare)>Card ban (extremely rare in Standard, dows happen in expanded)>Releases hard counters in the next set>Let's the unforseen combo dominate until a key card rotates out
You think we're getting every Mythical? Colorless might get a 120 Arceus tank
>>57071327>I feel like people are overreaching with mew being in "every" deck.I don't really think so. I think it's going to be a one-of in every deck, except maybe Pikachu. It's an answer to their threat, not its own threat, if that makes sense. It's a Ditto, but useable.
>>57071335but this game is digital, it can avoid a lot of the problems the physical game has by just patching the cards as needed. There's no decks with a 60%+ winrate so far so while there are dominant meta's, it's not so terrible we're in urgent need of change.
>>57071333>I just can spot a poorly deck built when I see oneWould you care to enlighten us with your infinite insight and wisdom as to why this objectively good deck which has won many tournaments and is likely the best variant of Pikachu (a top meta deck) is "poorly [built]"?
>>57071327Not every deck, but it will help give an option against auto win cards like Charizard or Mewtwo with Gard. Seriously, 90% of decks get fucking humilated by zard and cant do anything once its set up, mew is necessary. On the other hand Mew makes Dragonite worse and thats based.
>>57071284Problem with these stats is that they tell you almost nothing unless the point count is over 3x the win count. I guess the damage count tells you that I used Zapdos / Zard at least once?
>>57071338A revenge killer you build up on the bench is good in theory, but why would you need it when you can use a pokemon with a consistent high damage output attack like mewtwo, charizard, whatever or one of the other meta cards that doesn't hit quite as hard but for less energy, like pika/starmie/ninetails/etc? I think a fair number of psychic decks will run it but seeing as there's no other way to feed it energy besides gardevoir, it won't be nearly as popular as people will think
Do we have any idea on what celebi might do? Grass needs a solid basic so bad bros.
>>57071258>It actually makes a lot of sense. You'd know this if you played this game, but you don'tThis proves how disingenuous you are with the first sentence.>They don't actually matter. Because they don't actually matter, they can functionally be anything.Onions >because the filler basics don't matter anywayOnions>Because the basics in the deck outside of Pika and Zapdos don't actually matter, they can be anythingOnionsYou then spend the entire post talking about how most of the deck doesn't matter. And then you claim that it's an intelligently built deck? Does that sound like a good deck to you?IF this was a good deck you would be able to explain the purpose behind every single card.You have no idea what you're doing or even what you're talking about, at least you had the sense not to bother defending Pincurchin directly.
>>57071018i got the emblem 2 days into the game with one of the most shittiest decks. i have no idea how so many people can't do it.
>>57071333Anon, I’m the (alleged) retard preaching the gospel of Surge sucking ass, and even I know that deck list is good. Pika does pika things. Raichu / pincurchin give you a backup plan. Gio lets you fuck up M2. I’m mixed on the potion over another Sabrina, but it has use cases.
>>57071362we need some kind of stadium or trainer card that lets grass types immediately evo or skip their mid evo. The one advantage bug types have in the games is fast evo's and that's totally missing in the tcg
>>57071360>but why would you need it when you can use a pokemon with a consistent high damage output attack like mewtwo, charizard, whateverMewtwo is probably going to run a Mew EX because, in psychic, Mew EX is a Zapdos EX but better. You might have a point with Charizard and Blastoise, especially now that Blastoise is getting Vaporeon, but specifically with Blastoise, it was already running regular Mewtwo as a wall, and Mew EX could potentially be a better wall, with 10 more HP and a retreat cost of 1, and an attack that is useable in any deck. It's Zapdos EX in Psychic, but its coinflip attack is consistent and colorless.
>>57071363>retard is a frog posterevery single time, do it in your first post next time so we know to ignore you
I legitimately hate nerf culture. It ruins card games. Once you give them permission to nerf cards freely they always take advantage of it by purposely making cards overtuned on release. Which forces you to buy the new shiny thing or get your shit pushed in by meta sloppers. Then they nerf it to force you to buy the next overtuned card. It's a cycle that kills games.
>>57071375>t. luckiest anon alive
>>57071386dunno man, I've been dicking around after getting my 5 win streak with a pidgeot/marowak ex deck to do it a second time with pidgeot/venusaur ex now
>>57071385I don’t disagree, but Misty might legitimately deserve to be limited to 1. Everything else is fine.
>>57071363>IF this was a good deck you would be able to explain the purpose behind every single card.>frog poster is retardedI did. I actually explained that the *other* variants of Pikachu EX (Zeb, Electrode, Magneton) have basics that don't matter, while Raichu actually does something for the deck. Zebstrika is almost useful but it's countered by a single Potion.
>>57071397Actually the more you post I'm convinced you don't even play
>>57071395>dunno man>marowakDon’t mention that card if you’re trying to prove streaks aren’t influenced by luck kek.
>>57071400>no uI already said that about you though, anon. You clearly don't play this game. Luckily for you, you're being so stupid now (and posting frogs) that I think you're funposting rather than shitposting, so I'll let it slide.
>>57071381>It's Zapdos EX in Psychic, but its coinflip attack is consistent and colorlessyour thinking about the ideal scenario of switching in when the opponent already has their best mon in the active slot. If mew is on the board and getting energy, they will know to play around that and save their evo's for later or switch in once they've got sabrina to force mew to eat the first hit. Mew will be stuck attack with whatever garbage attack the opponents wall pokemon will have and if they have fossils you wouldn't even be able to kill that.
>>57071408>Let it slideOooh I'm impressed anon
>>57071411>your thinking about the ideal scenarioI really don't think I am. I'm just thinking about Mew EX as a whole. It's Zapdos EX, but with a good "consistent" attack that is colorless. Multiple non-psychic decks are already running regular Mewtwo as a wall simply because it's 120 hp with a 2 retreat cost. Mew EX is better, and if those aforementioned decks are running EXs, it's not even really a big deal that Mew EX gives the opponent 2 points since they'd die in 2 mons anyway. And then if it lives the early game (or comes down late game) it's a trump card against their threat. It's going to be in many, many decks.
>>57071405sure, but times marowak failed me I'd just retreat into pidgeot and gio if needed to clean up anyway
I will attempt one chain of battles per day and post my results.>day 1: 0 wins>day 2: 0 wins>day 3: 1 win>day 4: 0 wins>day 5: 0 winsI'm really just hoping to get the 2 win streak emblem at this point, maybe the 3 win emblem if I'm lucky.
>444The silver medal is in the cards for you.
>>57071444What deck you using anon?
>>57071440Sure, but that’s hinging on your luck in getting a stage 2 on board. My streak got fucked 3 separate times because the game threw turn 1 / 2 Misty articuno in my face. Good players will win more games than bad players, but you can’t do anything about bad luck.
>>57071444I pray for you every day, Retard-kun. Keep it up.
>>57071376>Raichu / pincurchin give you a backup plan. Gio lets you fuck up M2. If your plan for M2 is to surge into gio on Raichu then this deck is cooked
>>57071444Ionobro, you really need to step up your game..I hope you're prepared for the miniset, too...
>>57071451I don't know how to post it but its a Jigglypuff/Wigglypuff deck I made myself cause that's my favorite pokemon.
>>57071456That’s the thing. That isn’t the plan, dingleberry, and that’s one of several reasons I keep saying Surge is bad. That decklist runs 2x Gio and only 1x Surge for a reason.
>>57071324>I could do it if I wanted>I just don't want to be the very best
>>57071460Is this ex and promo puff? Guess your opponents are confident at flipping heads
>>57071466Its promo puff and 1 EX cause I only have 1, so also a regular Wigglytuff which surprisingly hasn't been that terrible. But also yes my opponent usually just wakes up and kills me.
>>57071455If pokemon snap has taught me anything it's that pressing X will evolve pikahcu into surf board pikachu or some shit
>>57071460https://my.limitlesstcg.com/builder
>>57071444Based desu. The real retards are those who spent dozens of battles on this stupid event (me).
>>57071460>that's my favorite pokemon.Absolutely based.
>>57071472Dunno what else you've got but Wigglytuff Weezing is a passable deck.
I only spent 5 battles on the PVP event
Bro your pack glass
>>57071444for me it was:>day 1: 5 winsjust get lucky like me. also, play blaine, that's what I used.
>>57071301They don't really know and for now they don't really care. You need to remember that their most popular game so far was strictly PvE, where imbalance was desired.
>>57071444>probably the same people who think mewtwo is the most consistent deck can't clear the 5 win streak mission pottery
>>57071489Thanks, this is what I'm using. But if you're going to suggest something, know that I probably don't have what you're going to suggest. I don't have a lot of the common staples.>>57071499I don't have a second Weezing yet.
>>57071524Do you have Arbok?
>>57071516Not only that, but they made a ton of money and they probably noticed some backlash from the 5 in a row event, so their winning move to keep raking in money while not upsetting people will probably be to make the game even staler so as not to stir the pot
>>57071460Reposting because I’ve had a lot of fun recently with this deck. I don’t think you should attempt a streak with it because some matchups are going to rely on a strict 50/50 coinflip with jiggly/wiggly (but that’s the nature of these cards).Swap red card for another gio / sabrina (or potion if you think that would feel better).
>>57071463So we agree that the deck is bad?
>>57071526I actually do have two Arbok.>>57071529I don't have two Golbat.
>>57071534I think we agree that Surge is bad, sure. Pika decks are forced to choose between several undeniably mediocre options in a way that most decks don’t. You have to run basics, but the basics / evos aren’t spectacular.
>>57071444For me it was>day 1: 4 wins>day 2: 0 wins, 0 wins, 0 wins, 0 wins, 5 wins>day 3: start of a streak (stopped at 8 wins)>day 4: continuation of previous day's streak (stopped at 9 wins)>day 5: termination of the streak, 1 loss
I'm just thankful that despite there being arguments here about the game, which is healthy and expected, there doesn't seem to be any mentally ill schizos as I've seen in other generals(But maybe I shouldn't jinx it as it's early on, but just saying)
>>57071504Then you didn't finish all the missions boy, get back out there.
>>57071554I'll do concedes using an alt later in private battle, I don't really like battling in the current state it's in unless it's PVE, maybe I'd get more into it if they do a revamp later
>>57071539Try this. If you get a second Wigglytuff ex you could cut one Arbok line for another Wiggly line but I'm not sure that would be an improvement.
Already got my 5 wins, but I queue anyway with Pikachu to destroy some people's streaks.
>>57071580At what age did your uncle first molest you?
>>57071574I could try the first one, but I would need both a Weezing and a second Koga for the second.
>>57071583don't even have an uncle lol
>>57071580But anon, you're supposed to give the stragglers pity wins so that they don't have to earn the emblem rightfully
I finally understand people's hate for 3-diamond rarity. I've 6 cards left for Mew and 5 of them are this cursed rarity that simply doesn't drop. I HATE 3-DIAMONDS.
>>57071588If you get a second Koga without a second Weezing I wouldn't cut a Potion for it.But if you get a second Weezing without a second Koga I would cut a Potion.
>>57071604don't get me wrong, I think this event is bullshit. but it's so paradoxical that the emblem is apparently desired because it's hard to get, therefore it has some kind of emotional value for people, so in order to get it they ask everyone to concede... so that the emblem is meaningless as a result? lol people really care that much about owning the fomo emblem even if the way they get it runs counter to its perceived value.
>>57071604Alternatively, you run a competent meme deck to give stragglers a chance AND make them seethe when their meta deck folds. That’s what I’ve been doing.
>>57071621Same but only because I still need the shinedust mission reward for 10 wins.
>>57071631Those go to 15 wins.
>>57071611>nearly 200 packs in>just got first IvysaurTwo diamonds are the cursed rarity. Fuck common pack cards.
>>570716365 extra games in 2 days? It's fucking over for me...
TNTD
>>5707164252% of the dust from the event comes from the final mission.
>>57071611I'm missing so many of them, it's so annoying
I've had 3+ stamina the last 3-4 days, always had at least one 4 stamina pop upWhere as i usually just spam them before they fill, never had this much 4 staminas pop upHMMMMMMMMMM
I think I had a dream I pulled a mew ex in pocketIs this a sign from the gambling gods?
>>57071669Gonna give this a try.
>>57071618People always do that. This is how World of Warcraft got ruined. Devs giving players what they want is, more often than not, a bad idea.
any tips on setting up an alt account? I have a couple old cell phones that have been factory reset and I was thinking about booting them up to pull more packs, but I'm worried about daddy Nintendo fucking me in the ass if I log into the same Google account to download the app, even if I use different emails after downloading
>>57071669>4 stamina pops up>it’s ugly ass ZardI’m not sure if I can be bothered to care about most 4 stamina picks.
>>57071725>>57070650
>>57071173This deck is horrible
>>57071618lmao at this armrest shrinkpeople just dont want to be left out, no one has a sort of attachment to this thing.game is barebones as fuck, there is an event, people want to complete and thats it.
>>57071734Care to elaborate?
>>57071740oh and why do you think that is, you fucking retard?if you want something then there IS some sort of attachment and perceived value, fucktard. if I call it emotional, then that doesn't mean people are shitting and pissing themselves crying if they don't get it. the impulse is of emotional nature that's all.
>>57071725gary would have the three birds badge
>>57071754I already asked him earlier to enlighten us as to why the Raichu variant of Pikachu (which wins tournaments, including a 1500 player one) is bad, and he didn't reply. This is just how he gets his daily attention fix. He hasn't realized yet that he can have normal conversations and still get (You)s.
>>57071772I’m just curious where the critique lies. Pika decks are all making lemonade from the current basic lineup with no variant taking a clear lead over another, so I assume he’s taking issue with the items / supports.
>>57071740You could have condensed that post into just 4 letters: FOMO
>>57071786>I assume he’s taking issue with the items / supports.I think he's just shitposting and that it's about Raichu and/or Surge, which is the topic of that conversation. Those are the only differences between this Pika list and any other Pika list.
>>57071725>Not the legendary birds emblem
How much money are you going to spend on Mythical Island?
>>570718130 hopefully
>>57071725
>>57071727*X
>>57071823Change the filename to Blue.jpg and it's perfect.
>>57071823>tfw 4/6 I'm almost cool
He was stuck with his first energy being chomped at by Mawile for 3 turns until his gardevoir was up.
For anyone thats confused about Mew EX:If you copy Charizard EX's attack; you will discard 2 fire energy if you have 2 fire energy, and the attack will go off. BUTIf you dont have 2 fire energy, the attack still goes off. The effect and the attack are two different things.
Gamefreak still owes me a godpack. And a girlfriend.
>>57071840no its gary motherfucking oak
>>57071919which makes mew ex broken as shit.
>>57071772Go outside
>>57071883Is Full Metal Alchemist really the best way to run Melmetal?
>>57071919That's stupid
>>57071943Its a carbon copy of the TCG card thats in the current rotationOf course its stupid
>>57071919why don't they just fix charizard to discard any 2 energy, and then mew can discard any 2 energy also.
>>57071947Because Cuckzard is a bitch and kneels to Mewchad.
>>57071947>why don't they just fix charizard to discard any 2 energy,because then you could stack non-fire energy on it and discard that while doing 200 damage a turn because you still have 4 energy on it.
>>57071947Charizard is designed to work with a moltres engine
>>57071940I don't care if it's the best wayBut it's how I'm gonna roll.And it just works for me
>>57071840But japanese name is Green
>>57071943It's exactly what the wording of the cards implies.21 words is too much reading for you?
>>57071919This is why a bunch of physical TCG cards have the clause>Discard X energy OR this attack does nothing
>>57071919Dena has already proven that they do not care about clarity in card ruling (such as attacks that damage the bench not specifying that they do not take weakness/resistance into account like in the TCG). it wouldn't surprise me that nobody on their team noticed this interaction and that they will errata either of the 2 cards to account for unforseen interactions (provided they are deemed to be broken).
>>57071989>they will errata either of the 2 cardsThat would shock me to my core. No they won't. They don't give two fucks about balance and the cards are clearly supposed to work that way.
Fuck it lemme fight Venusaur Expert again->event overOh... I don't do PVP so...
>>57071998Dont be a BITCHget in there and take some hitsThere's no loss record no one will know if you get stomped
>>57071997>provided they are deemed to be brokenmy point is that dena doesn't know how to write rules, so it's a coin toss as to whether it was intentional or not
>>57072021>>57072021>>57072021
>>57070618>I'm worried that hoarding HGs will set off a flag on my account that will give me shit pulls.Schizo but I believe it. Ever since I started hoarding HGs my pulls have been complete garbage.
