>Finally beat the game! time to explore all the post-game are-oh, it's one town?th-that's fine...
>>57088113Wait! You can also explore the southern part of Ka-Nevermind
>>57088113>Finally beat the game! I'm glad the campaign was actually long and full of explorable content instead of being shitty and watered down just to pointlessly pad the postgame when it's far less relevant and useful!
Battle Maison girls are cute, but otherwise yeah I agree.
>>57088129>campaign was actually long and full of explorable contentexcept the game's nothing like this
>>57088129>campaign was actually long and full of explorable contentagreed, the game was totally like this
>>57088144parroting is an admission of defeat and of lying
>>57088129>region is half finished and copies half its layout/notable events from kantolol
>>57088113>>57088121It really sucks we didn't get this. Rushed game.
>>57088113The Looker Bureau was great.I wish the rest of XY's story was as good as it though lmao.
>>57088188I guiltily liked it too but I have this feeling it was Ohmori's first project. It's writing and structure reads like all of his later story works.
>>57088129>long>full of explorable content
What kind of postgame would you have wanted to see in gen 6? I think a third version with a new battle frontier could have genuinely redeemed the Kalos games in most people's eyes.
>>57088298>most people'sFrontierfags don't even make half of the fanbase
>>57088312Maybe so, but I think the work that would go into adding an entirely new frontier would have shown everyone that they were willing to put in that kind of effort again.Of course a third version would have had a host of other shit on top of that.
>>57088312Sure but even casuals would at least seen it as something to do at the end of the game i know when i played pokemon as a kid anywhere unexplored and battle facilities i at least went to once to get a feel for what i had left to do
>>57088919>Sure but even casuals would at least seen it as something to do at the end of the gameXY already has battle facilities to do at the end of the game. But retarded casuals like you don't actually play battle facilities, which is why you think there's nothing to do at the end of the game.
>>57088144parroting is an admission of defeat
>>57088951facility. singular. which every game has had starting with crystal until SV.
>>57088951I also stated anywhere unexplored and outside of the sea spirts cave and the cave for zygard/mewtwo there weren't many i named 3 and they weren't really like full areas outside of the zygard cave and if im correct you go there in your campaign
>>57088963XY already has battle facilities, plural, to do at the end of the game. But retarded casuals like you don't actually play battle facilities, which is why you think there's nothing to do at the end of the game.
>>57088951The Battle Maison might be the single worst Battle Tower clone if the one from SS didn't exist. As it stands it barely fucking works right, I'm talking Gen 1 levels of completely busted AI exploitation. It doesn't help that the only things exclusive to it, triples and rotations, lag the 3DS to shit simply by existing. I think Gen 4 multis with another cart are worse but as somebody who has extensively done both to get all relevant rewards it should tell you something that that's my immediate response.>>57088963Technically there's the Battle Institute, and a few incredibly lame things that are all just permutations of battling. There's zero real mechanical or aesthetic interest. It's not like PWT encouraging teambuilding, there's no strategy like using rental Pokemon, there's no map design to navigate, the only real "puzzle" to solve involves beating your opponents as quickly as possible, inverse battles are fucking wasted until ORAS (and thank fucking god Secret Bases can be shared by QR now that online is dead), and the post-game battles with important trainers from the games are insanely easy and this is the game where the champion's ace has an ability that does nothing (at least the 3 move Pokemon of some champions exist to make them use good moves more often).>>57089040Terminus Cave is one of the incredibly few optional areas in XY, and would be one of the few good ones if it let you catch Zygarde on your first visit. As it stands if they wanted to lock Zygarde to post-game they should have just made the entire thing post-game only. It's the worst of both worlds as it stands now.
>>57089067Are you talking battle institute?
>>57088129Why yes, Hoenn was excellent, but unfortunately we are now talking about Kalos
>>57089067facility. singular. which every game has had starting with crystal until SV.
>>57089068>The Battle Maison might be the single worst Battle Tower clone if the one from SS didn't existIt's the Battle Subway but with more content and the PWT but with actual challenge. Stop shitposting as a coping mechanism for you seething over the game being higher quality.>>57089174XY already has battle facilities, plural, to do at the end of the game. But retarded casuals like you don't actually play battle facilities, which is why you think there's nothing to do at the end of the game.
>>57088298i dont like the battle frontier solely because i like how it was in b2w2 where there was basically a "battle frontiers" worth of facilities/minigames spread throughout the region instead of being cooped up in a singular theme park thingy. id like that, just activities that arent necessarily postgame that are spins on the formula or minigames. also id hope dexnav would be backported into kalos. (not postgame). my request for the actual postgame of a theroretical pokemon z would be the battle zone/eastern unova postgame we were seemingly going to get rather than a shitty ohmori postgame quest
>>57089251>rather than a shitty ohmori postgame questI wouldnt even mind these if the games were more easily replayable and ahd either A.) Multiple save slots or B.) Some sort of chapter select for easy access to certain points in the game
>>57088113Wait, you guys get a post-game?
>>57090214Yeah its been dire the last two gens like i thoygh gen 7 was bad everything i hear about gen 8 and 9 makes me glad i dont come back
>>57090214>wholeass dlcbut yeah i get it, if you just mean SV then there's not even E4 rematches
>>57090403How much of the content in the dlc is replayable? Genuine question cus i don't own any switch pokemon games
>>57090214SV had more content than XY in general.
>>57090867>How much of the content in the dlc is replayable?Everything except the main story and Perrin's quests
>>57090934...is there anything but that
>>57090948Yes.
>>57090934Well what exactly emtails the everything i have seen what most people do/friends who owned sv do where they grind shinys or compet pokes and battle ive seen people mess with sandwhiches for stats and the like but like what content is there that does not relate to team buliding for competative so excluding like a pelego and breding compent and more stuff like is there a side mode does this even have the usum fetch quests thing? Are there gym rematches? I know ive heard of heart to hearts in this game but thats proavky a one time thing i know that when the game came out you could go to where the final boss was to get a second legendary for trading but thats one time there would be raiding which would be fun maybe not my thing but i cant say that isnt content but like what else is there?
>>57090403I already wasted money on the game itself, did you expect me to drop money on the dlc? And besides, the dlc came out way later when my hatred for the game only increased.>>57090923Too bad that's true. I had to spend more time looking at dogass graphics and a world full of ugly, fat, brown, tranny npcs. XY at least was visually appealing. 2DSlets don't @me. The 3D feature was nice and it was pure laziness for them to remove it in gen 7.
>>57091359>I had to spend more time looking at dogass graphics and a world full of ugly, fat, brown, tranny npcs.Why did you play XY that long?
>>57091359>The 3D feature was niceWhat do you fucking mean "nice"? It was disabled for the majority of the gen 6 games.
>>57091432I replayed XY about 2 years ago and the 3D function worked just fine.
>>57091658So then you didn't play it at all otherwise you would have known that it's disabled for most areas and game modes for example, the 3d effect doesn't activate for anything other than single battles.
>>57089229facility. singular. which every game has had starting with crystal until SV.
>>57091997To be fair, XY does have the battle test but along with the maison it's a lot easier than the previous gen version.
>>57091658>>57091987It works mostly during battles, singles are fine but for double/triple/rotational battles and horde encounters it lags af
>>57089229>It's the Battle Subway but with more contentWhere's the Wi-Fi train in Kalos?
>>57092021>but for double/triple/rotational battles and horde encounters it lags afWe aren't talking any 3d models anon, we're talking about the 3d effect. You know, the whole gimmick of the 3ds?The thing that's disabled for her he majority of the game?
>>57092061>The thing that's disabled for her he majority of the game?I know, in fact i said it works mostly during battles
>>57092081Anon, it only works for singles.Doubles, triples, rotations and hordes it's completely disabled.
>>57088129What campaign did you play? Certainly not X and Y's.
>>57088298For X and Y, I think the Maison girls were fine. But I think they needed more interesting gimmicks than just singles, doubles, partners, etc. At the very least, the Battle Factory concept of rentals could've been brought back and turned into a gimmick one of them uses.
I'm surprised none of the maison girls used inverse battles as her gimmick
I'm surprised none of the subway bosses used triple battles as his gimmick
>>57092161parroting is an admission of defeat
>>57092161>game about dichotomy as a concept>HURR DURR WHY ISN'T IT FOUR WAY LMAOUnova is the only one that has a gym dedicated to triples and rotations.
>>57092089Fuck im retarded, Mandela effect
>>57088113Why is bulbapedia like this with Kalos specifically? Every image of a city or routes is stuffed with lines and text overlayed, mostly in Japanese. It's seemingly done to make the locations seem more complex than they are in reality.
>>57092269they come from strategy guides since its not as easy to rip the maps as the 2d games and people tend to not give a shit about gen 6
>>57092150>>57092161Now kiss
>>57092172>game about dichotomy as a conceptI never really thought about it that way, but it's kinda true. Every game depicts conflict, but BW has commentary about the nature of all conflicts.
>>57092172>n-no you see it’s ok that the game has less content because of the poorly written storyKEK
>>57092038? >>57092439
>>57092038>Eelektross: weak to ground???????
>>57092487>The damage may change depending on the effects of this Pokémon's Ability.
>>57092468>n-no you see there isn’t less content because there’s THREE modes instead of FOUR modes and three is somehow a dichotomy!KEK
it’s funny how unova fans accuse the new games of being too reliant on online features to have content yet they have to rely on a fucking wifi subway mode, dream world, and join avenue for half their content kek
>>57092510Unova has both?
>battle institute suddenly counts as a battle facility when I need it to fit my narrative
>>57092523cry about it
>>57092523
>>57089070>>57092543
>>57092543I was just asking for clarification on what you meant by multiple battle facilities. However I will say that institute gets some small L's for the fact that to get the higher rewards you have to beat the maison boss in super mode so the higher teirs of trainer show up which may have been a reason why I never used it because if you don't the rewards kinda pitiful for your effort afterwards its more than likely to be pretty worthwhile. Nevertheless content is content its still not alot of content and its not my preferred content but it was another facility so i'll give ya that. I'd nuch rather them take just the battle tower and reuse it in a way that gives us new rules instead of fuckin nothing like Gens 7-9 have had at base
>>57092510Sir Join Avenue is useable offline if you wanna grow it I used to take my DS to school, and meet people named Jesus who would add to my Join Avenue only really dream world and the wifi subway car are completely unusable. The wifi car isn't the problem its the dreamworld cus that was the only way to grow berries yourself in gen 5 some entralink missions have berries but thats not nearly as good as letting me grow them myself. Global link also had other features attached like the global battle union, and its random battles feature. However even with the loss of these online features does that really make gen 5 that much lesser a complete title especially b2w2?
>>57092638https://github.com/kuroppoi/entralinked
>>57092638>does that really make gen 5 that much lesser a complete title especially b2w2?yes
>>57092750Yes while nice 1. ive known about this for a while now 2. Its not much a replacement to the dreamworld much less game synch when it doesn't recreate its full functionality game synch had so much connected to the global link way mote than the dreamworld.Also id like to say that i wasnt saying that its not possible to replicate the feature i was just saying that with or without the feature it dosent really make Gen 5 have that much less content
>>57092439>>57092500>less contentI'm sorry what other game has triples and rotation as a gym?>>57092763How?
>people rightfully criticize Kalos>the creature deflects to Unova completely unprovoked to protect his region from criticism>Now the thread is a referendum on Unova when it shouldn't beThis fag needs death by hanging.
>>57092797nice fanfic
>>57092799What part is fanfic?
>>57092799>fanficcriticize KalosThis objectievly happened>deflects to UnovaThis objectively happened>referendum on UnovaThis is literally what's happening now.Why do you say it's fanfic? Does anyone who argues against you engage in fanfic? That's your cope?
>>57092809nice greentext lol
>>57092814>OHMAGAWD IS THAT LE HECKIN TYPOOOOOO??!!!! I DON'T HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE NOW!!!!
>>57092821Correct.
>>57092824>Correct, I conceded and have no point.
>>57092830You do? Sweet.
>>57092834I greentexted this time, newfag. That means you have no point, like you admitted.
>>57092839You don't have to talk when you conceded already...
>>57092840>I didn't concede, YOU conceded! Even if I admitted that I conceded! Still waiting for you to say what part is fanfic. Until then, you conceded.
>>57092844You conceded twice already? Well that was easy.
>>57092847>he's still pretending greentext isn't greentext after screeching about greentextYou did. Still waiting for you to say what part is fanfic. Until then, you conceded.
>>570928633 times? Gotta be a new record.
>>57092878>is inventing things + is blatantly illiterateOnly you did. Still waiting for you to say what part is fanfic. Until then, you conceded.This whole exchange is fucking retarded. Address the argument instead of sidestepping down to wherever we are now.
>>57092893Don't really have to do anything when opponent concedes 4 times...
>>57092900>opponent concedes 4 timesWhere did I concede? Only you conceded ITT.
>>570929035 times is not healthy bro...
>>57092915So why did you do it?
>>57089068>Terminus Cave is one of the incredibly few optional areas in XY, and would be one of the few good ones if it let you catch Zygarde on your first visit. As it stands if they wanted to lock Zygarde to post-game they should have just made the entire thing post-game only. It's the worst of both worlds as it stands now.Yeah i liked terminus cave cus it was one of the few kalos caves with some depth but when exploring the depths of it, it felt unnecessary how lsrge it was like it could have been a floor shorter and i would have been fine i dunno just wasnt impressed with it but that might be just me being a bitch lol>>57091211 also is anyone gonna answer this im genuinely interested in understanding what content is even sv thats replayable
>>57091211>fetch quests thingyes DLC is the fetch quest thing>gym rematchesyes>what else is therethe DLC
>>57088113kek retards really love to just make up reasons to hate kalos
>>57092993nothing to do is a pretty good reason
>>57092995Good thing Kalos has things to do.
>>57092993parroting is an admission of defeat
>>57093012Prove it.
>>57092963Im talkin replayable content ya dumbot yes i know the dlc has a story but like for example KH3 had a $40 dlc and the main campaign was there it was nice but was way too short. However they added the data organization to give people shit to do when the game was over cus base KH3 had fuckin zero post game. P5r adds a good few things to do if you reboot a save prior to fighting maruki hell theres shit to do in the velvet room if you do have a save locked in the last palce. Its not much but ff7intergrade at least added wiess as a post game fight. Not all of this is majorly significant but like for fucks sake its atleast replayable yeah i know i can spend 40 bucks on a new set of campaigns which while adding some nice hours to my file cant be replayed without a complete fuckin wipe to the save which is why unlike other rpgs where id say an extra post campaign is significant (not p5rs or kh3's tho the third semester and remind suckssss lol) Pokémon's campaigns lose alot of replayability by forcing you to delete a save and forbid you if you just wanna play a tiny chunk cus boy oh boy do i hate sm prior to acerolas trial cus its so fuckin boring but after is the shit i do wanna replay too bad i have to slog all the way back though the rest of the game for it! I'm not trying to fuckin disregard what you're saying but please be real here im talking about things you can do when the story is done and over with because if we came to count hours of story id consider usum a good game
>>57092993>>57092995>My first Y playthrough (with online)400 hours>My second Y playthrough (without online)34 hours>My last Black playthrough (without online)200 hours>My last Black 2 playthrough (without online)250 hours
>>57093023Play the game and find out.
>>57093001Then why can't you defend against people ITT criticizing it for lacking things and resort to deflecting instead?>>57093022Because it doesn't apply here. No one made up a reason here because, if it's true, it's a valid complaint. "Making up a reason" would be something that's no bearing on if the game is good or not, like names of NPCs or something really random like that. Or something like that"all games from 2013 are automatically bad".
>>57093024>muh anecdoteI'll admit first playthroughs are always longest.
>>57093038Theres no real criticism in the thread that would need defending.
>>57093043the game having little to do is a real criticism that absolutely needs defendingyou may disagree with the criticism, so defend it instead of denying it and expecting people to believe you
>>57093049>>57088113
>>57093031
>>57093054Where's the punchline?
>>57093049It had lot to do when it was active but people forget Pokemon is a multiplayer game and when the new one comes out you switch to it just like in Call of Duty.
>>57093062>just battle other people ad infinitumthis can happen in any game
>>57093070Yes, and?
>>57093074So you saying it has multiplayer doesn't address the criticism so much
>>57093082Theres no criticism to be addressed.
>>57093089the game having little to do is a real criticism that absolutely needs defendingyou may disagree with the criticism, so defend it instead of denying it and expecting people to believe you
>>57093097Your bot reply is wrong and doesnt need addressing.
>>57093022it demonstrates a lack of both a real argument and the restraint necessary to simply not reply
>>57093102>ask for addressing>never gets addressed>ask again>STOP BEING A BOTHow about address the actual criticism.
>>57093124What criticism?
>>57093131>gets asked to address it and why it's supposedly wrong>IT JUST DOESN'T EXIST LOLyou are not convincing anyone. If the criticism really was invalid you'd explain how so, like a regular discussion. You're dodging doing so because you know that you can't.
>>57093141It's funny because you are dodging and not telling the criticism.
>>57093145I told you the criticism numerous times. Your only rebuttals consistently along the lines of "it just doesn't exist" without explaining an iota of proof at all.
>>57093151Still not seeing it.
>>57093159>he's still denying itMaybe you're just blind? Not sure how else I'm supposed to be helping you. Please reread the thread instead of continuing this offshoot shifting of a discussion.
>>57093170>still cant post itSorry you can't make any real criticism.
Man you two are retarded either kiss and make up or fuck off somewhere else and let the thread die
>>57093024>My first Y playthrough (with online)999 hours>My second Y playthrough (without online)500 hours>My last Black playthrough (without online)25 hours>My last Black 2 playthrough (without online)20 hours
>>57093486weak
>>57093498>total titles played: 15that's the problem
>>57092510Here's the difference, everything you can do with online features you can do offline in gen 5.Hidden abilities can be obtained through grottoes or the dream radarBerries can be obtained through various npcs and join avenue shopsJoin avenue can be filled via local play or the 10 free daily npcsAnd that makes up about, what, a generous 1% of gen 5's content at best.Gen 6 has no post game other than the maison and Emma's story which is one and done, the rest of the content all came from online playPSS: deadPC viewing: deadOnline multi: deadFriend Safari: deadPhoto spots: all sharing features are dead
>>57093707Friend safari still works doe you can even add people there
>>57092510You know its kinda funny that with even this being the case Unova still has more content without the online features
>>57091211>blueberry club matchesSo that's not just gym leaders but just about every npc including the teachers>blueberry quests>ogre oustin>flight courseAnd probably some other stuff
>>57093737Chain fishing and radar is more content than 2 Unova games.
>>57093750>>57093767
>>57093779locking half the content to after the credits doesn’t magically generate more content
>>57093779Yes left has chain fishing and radar while right doesnt, we know this already.
>>57093779>the “”””postgame”””” is just stuff that’s available during the campaign in XYwow it’s fucking nothing
>>57093783How do I do the Looker sidequest before beating Diantha
>>57093175It's already been posted, blind man. Stop ignoring it.>>57093731The point went over your head anon. The benefits of all those things are still available in Gen 5, while Gen 6 axes irreplaceable online features.>facilitiesGen 6 has less. Focusing on BW specifically, XY only has triples and rotations in the facility, but this is a minor thing. Where's the gym dedicated to it in XY?>hidden abilitiesThe post you responded to already clearly addressed this. In Gen 5 you still have access to Hidden Abilities. Expand this point.>berry farmingGood, berry farming needed a better way to get berries instead of farming them. Farming them takes way too long. Gen 5 allowed you to get much more berries faster and simultaneously clean up the overworld. And that should be enough on its own, but they made the dream world for farmers like you who insist on farming yourself for some reason.>secret basesSure, but Unova has other features that are better that replace this several times worth. Look at having a bicycle, PWT, Pokestar, Memory Link, Enntralink, and others, which include musicals, funfest missions, having more ribbons having XY, having more Gems than XY, and having more locations. You're focusing on something extremely small.>menu customizationGen 5 still has this without online ? Please elaborate and say what you actually mean.>>57093750>>57093790>chain fishing and radarcompletely and collectively mogged by things XY lacks like having a bicycle, PWT, Pokestar, Memory Link, Enntralink, and others, which include musicals, funfest missions, having more ribbons having XY, having more Gems than XY, and having more locations.>>57093792So? If you want to compare total content then please do so. XY falls short still. You. seem to want to flip the script and say postgames don't exist, whihc is the other extreme. Content is content.
>>57093830> The point went over your head anon. The benefits of all those things are still available in Gen 5holy shit I can do triple battle subway in gen 5? Where?
>having more ribbons having XYSagie broke his spambot?
When do you think Pretendo will support gen 6/7?
>>57093849You can always tell he’s seething when he makes a bunch of typos and errors kek
Sagiebros...
>>57093836I said all the benefits. What's the benefit of that? Triples are still in the game, and so is the Battle Subway.
>>57093849>>57093853>"LE TYPO" to distract from the ribbon-cut XY didOf course, just completely ignore the actual point.>>57093849>>57093854Who is sagie?
>>57093859>>57093865>exactly one minute apartWho do you think you’re fooling, sagie?
>things XY lacks like having a bicycleIs.. is he actually retarded?
>>57093883>XY has so much soul and effort that it lets you choose between two bicycles
>>57093881So?
>>57093883Ok this is actually funny lmao how can you fuck up your shitposting with blatant lies like this
>>57093883>>57093898>>57093921I'll admit I misremembered it having a bike because I was thinking of the roller skates (worse) replacing them. If any of you are serious, will you actually answer the following like serious adults who don't shitpost:If you subtract the bicycle point from my post, does the lineup of features still dwarf chain fishing and radar?
>>57093731>in gen 6 I have more content in the battle facilities without online unlike gen 5You have 4 maison courses and the battle test Gen 5 has 3 subway courses, the battle test, 4 pwt courses, pokestar, the black and white labyrinths>in gen 6 I have more access to hidden abilities without online unlike gen 5The only way to get hidden abilities in gen 6 were hordes and the friend safari one of which is dead limiting you to what you have now and the other is severely limited.The dream radar and hidden grottoes have a considerably larger list. >in gen 6 I have access to berry farming without online unlike gen 5Berry farming in gen 6 being slower than gathering a bunch from an NPC daily from join avenue for example an pomeg berry has a max yield of 20 and grows every 48 hours. A single florist npc in gen gives you 8 in that time frame, with only 3 you're already exceeding the max amount in XY with out the same autistic dedication required for a max yield. >in gen 6 I have access to secret bases without online unlike gen 5Secret bases aren't in XY or Gen 5.>in gen 6 I have access to menu customization without online unlike gen 5You don't. There is no menu customization period in XY. In fact, gen 5 and technically 4 were the only games to have that period and you can still customize the CGear offline, you just can't change the skin.
>>57093836
>>57093783At least you agree that gen 6 has no content.
>>57093936Friend safari is still not dead.
>>57093960It is. You're stuck with what you have and can't even restart your game.
>>57093971We just tested it in wifi thread and adding people worked.
>>57093948>no streaks>no streakswhere’s the benefit?
>>57093973That's not how that works.
>>57093975Being able to repeat Triples and Rotation Battles. Now what's the benefit of streaks?
>>57093984It worked.
>>57093988The Friend Safari only required the servers to be able to register a friend. Aside from that, the Friend Safari is completely offline.
>>57094029https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonX/comments/1dk160d/friend_safari_still_works/sorry your shitposting isnt working
>>57093973It defeats the purpose if you have to hack to make it work because then every piece of WiFi based content is on the table.
>>57094040You dont need to hack anything, just add a friend.
>>57094037>r*ddit>it's okay if it's working technically even though its benefits don't actually work anymoreKys pederast
>>57094045You have to hack.
>>57094051I accept your concession.>>57094054You literally dont.
>>57094059See >>57094037You have to hack
>>57094059>concesionWhere did I concede? You conceded by having to pretend it works when it doesn't.>You literally don't.Yes you do. Go ahead and explain the actual way how to add a friend.
>>57094067>It does. Both Nintendo NetworkYes i agree, you dont.
>>57094072Same way you use bank.
>>57094080Which is?>>57094073>can't read.
>>57094085You press the button and it connects you and you can use it. Hope this helps!
>>57094096Which buttons? You know hacking consists of pressing buttons as well. Please prove it isn't hacking.
>>57094096Something you can no longer do when adding friends.
>>57093745Thank you thats very helpful glad i got to see this in this shit hole of a thread
>>57093865>Who is sagie?Yawnfag's made up boogeyman whom he screeches about when someone ends up defending Unova. Basically, the majority of the board.
>>57094102>>57094106Just added this guy, was pretty easy. If you need any help just google how to add friends.
>>57094177You added a friend code, you haven't added a friend yet.
>>57094202Give your friend code then and lets add each other and check out each others friend safaris like we did with Matt couple weeks ago. He has a Poison type safari btw.
>>57093783How do I visit Kiolude without beating Diantha?
heres the proof btw https://arch.b4k.co/vp/thread/56946643/#56955042
>>57088113They didn't have time. Pokemon is too big. Please understand.
>>57094260Looking through that thread no one posted anything.Also whoever said this is pushing false information>no the third slot is if you beat pokemon league, but it doesnt matter since the game's online is downBecause it's not determined by you beating the league but the owner of the friend code and you can't unlock the third one without being online.You also can't unlock hidden abilities without getting the third slot, which of course requires online.
>>57094329Wrong, you can be connected locally to unlock it. Also theres multiple people in the thread confirming adding people still work.
>>57094360>locallyMeaning your friend safari is useless since none of the people you add now are going to be locals.
>>57094365You dont have any friends? Thats sad.
>>57092172>gym dedicated to triples and rotationswhat fucking gym? none of them are triples, much less rotation or doubles.why do unovaborts have to make shit up to claim they have content?
>>57094360>Also theres multiple people in the thread confirming adding people still work.Oh and "multiple people" means nothing without evidence, not one person posted a screenshot and even if they did they wouldn't be able to unlock hidden abilities since it requires online.You should really pay attention.>>57094370None of my friends play XY, in fact the last time we met up played black and white 2 since it's a vastly better game.
>>57094365Isn't there a tool to inject/extract friend codes?
>>57094387See >>57094040
>>57090986...what is it? ive played through sv like 4 times and still havent found anything but tera raids as postgame content
>>57094384It's quite funny how it went from "it doesnt work" to "ok it works but it doesnt count". Post your code and let me add you.
>>57094383Play the game
>>57094416>no streaksworthless
I like Unova :)
>>57094400It hasn't changed at all. The whole conversation was about hidden abilities in the first place >>57093731>in gen 6 I have more access to hidden abilities without online unlike gen 5The only place to get hidden abilities in gen six are hordes and the friend safari, even if adding people worked, which we have yet to see evidence of yet mind you, you still wouldn't be able to unlock hidden abilities since that explicitly requires online and communicating with a friend that has beaten the game.This is why I told you to pay attention since even if it does work, it doesn't.
>>57094453Works on local so nope, doesnt need online.
>>57094457So you're going to fly across the world just to unlock hidden abilities.
>>57088113>I read online that this cave has Mewtwo in it!>I mean yeah, it did get mega evolutions so it makes sense that I can catch it!>No way, this is going to be so cool, Cerulean Cave was such a cool dungeon, I can't wait for something equally as challenging and memorable in 3D!>Okay I'm going in!>...oh.
>>57094468If that were your closest friend is then sure.
>>57094397NTA but if you're talking about postgame content in SV in general then you have>6 star raids>gym test repeats>academy tournament>team star rematches>blueberry quests>ogre oustin>flight course>blueberry coach battles
>>57094474So are you saying that you personally have a cabal of XY players all within walking distance?
>>57094507Yeah.
>>57094425Why do you want them to be in streaks?Also are you gonna apologize for accusing others of not playing when you were just caught not knowing the actual content of the game?>>57094512So obtaining hidden abilities is essentially paywalled. How's this better than Gen 5 again, which was the original discussion?
>>57094748I don't care about original discussion, i'm here to correct false info.>paywalledWalking is free.
>Finally beat the Elite Four! Time to explore all the post-game areasOh, it's one cave?Th-that's fine...
>>57094780>1996 vs 2013you know, a series should improve over time
>>57094765>i'm here to correct false info.Which you haven't. It's still dead.
>>57094855Wrong.
>>57094787Then why did the series decline by pointlessly locking 1/3 of the map to after the credits like Unova?
>>57094869if your game has enough content i don't see the problem
>>57094869What you're really butthurt about isn't that Unova locked a 3rd to post game, it's that 2/3rds had more content than most of the first games preceding it.
>>57088129>long>full of explorable contentYou're not talking about XY.
>>57094869That inaccessible part of the map contains pokemon not in the Unovan pokedex. Its the same as the battle zone island in Sinnoh, and the only reason newgen games have extra-pokedex pokemon before the postgame is because theyre sold as separate purchases.Besides, just because its after the champion fight doesnt mean its bad content or pointless. Oftentimes its a battle facility or some extra routes.
>>57094787You can sink more time in Battle Maison alone than in the entire RBY and that's not even including the Looker Bureau sidequest or the Battle Institute. I think the Zygarde Area of Terminus Cave could've been improved, but the Sea Spirit's Den and Unknown Dungeon aren't supposed to be complex dungeons. The Sea Spirit's Den is at the end of Azure Bay after you've hunted down the roaming legendary eleven times and Winding Woods/Route 20 and Pokemon Village IS the dungeon since you can't simply fly to Pokemon Village. You have to go through the Winding Woods all over again. The RBY postgame is just Cerulean cave and completing the Dex. That's it. And I guess Elite Four rematch, though they don't get any stronger. And no, Stadium doesn't count, since you have to purchase/play an entirely different game. That would be like adding Colosseum/XD to the postgame of RSE/FRLG. The RBY postgame is undeniably the most barren. Even RS had the Battle Tower in addition to Sky Pillar (and the Regi Quest, which technically isn't postgame, but most people don't bother with it until the postgame). Heck, even SwSh without the DLC had the Battle Tower and SV without DLC had Academy Ace Tournament, Treasures of Ruin, and Gym Leader Rematches. Kanto is also the smallest region (aside from arguably Galar and Johto).
>>57094958>You can sink more time in Battle Maison alone than in the entire RBYbut is it fun? i don't think endless battles are fun, i play pokemon for the exploration and collection aspects.
>>57095031Well everyone in this thread is yelling about different battle towers and facilities so i guess people do find it fun.
>>57095031>but is it fun?Not really.The tower is good if you're just looking for straight battles but as all there is? It gets old fast.That's why people liked the frontier and pwt, they weren't just straight battles.
>>57095101the thing people never want to acknowledge about battle facilities is that only a fraction of a fraction of pokemon players ever cared about streaks. most people who do battle facilities never finish them because whatever gimmick there is wears out long before you get close to the end and after that point it becomes a chore.and some facilities, like the palace, are immediately shit.
>>57095158Just say yawnfag. He's the only one that ever cared about streaks.Did you even get anything for them after gen 3? I know you got a trainer card star and a trophy for your base but i don't remember about the other games
>>57095172yawnfag doesn't care about anything when he's not using it to be pedantic
>>57095158Factory is still the best, no need to build team, quick, fun and always different
Facilities are only good when they give you ribbons.
>>57095202I liked the pyramid since you're exploring it.
>>57088113like ruby and sapphire...
Only pokefags care about postgame.
>>57093948>tri[ple houselow level battlesversion exclusive
>>57095383I think you should lose your battle against mental ilness
>>57095383>pokefags have higher standards than everyone elsei gotta say i'm surprised
>>57094902>doesnt respondthanks for conceding yawnfag
>p-please respond!!Sagie...
aww, he's making people up againi love this part of the exhibit
>>57094891>can’t breed before the credits>can’t fish before the credits>cat revive fossils before the credits>dex before the credits is smaller>BW’s entire campaign is so small and rushed that it has fewer routes than the first 3 gyms of XY>BW2’s map is so small that even counting the “”postgame”” it just has the same number of routes as XY>”y-y-you’re just mad the 2/3 has more content!!”KEK
>>57095655And yet XY has less content.And routes mind you.
>>57095702Yeah like missing bicycle lol
>>57095711>he thinks that gen 5 doesn't have a bikeWow, now I've seen everything, yawnfag.
>>57095721Gen 5 doesn't even have any pokemon in it. Or games. In fact Gen 5 doesn't even exist.
>>57095655>cant breedThe daycare lets you deposit 2 mons as soon as you get the bicycle in Nimbasa from the daycare guy>cant fishYou get it right after the credits, and it isn't necessary to complete the Unova regional dex>cant revive fossilsOnce you get the fossil of choice from the backpacker in the Relic Castle, head back to Nacrene City and talk to the lady at the desk in the museum. She will revive your fossil before (and after obviously) the credits>the dex is smaller...that's how all regional dexes work bar the OG RGBY dex, and they only have the one dex to work with.>campaign cramped into few routesSo more routes means more content, even though XY has a bogus route between Vaniville and Aquacorde with literally no content? Besides, everything after Shalour is crammed into the City w/ Gym -> Route -> City w/ Gym loop you claim BW has. Not saying BW doesn't, but XY has horrid pacing issues after the 3rd gym.>B2W2 small mapXY has no postgame routes, and as mentioned before, a full route is filler with no wild pokemon, trainer fights, or items.>2/3rd more content...what? outsider looking in, if anything, the 2/3rds having more content than XY is something to like, not something to hate
>>57095702>And yet XY has less contentsource?
>>57095771> but XY has horrid pacing issues after the 3rd gymwhile BW and BW2 has horrid pacing through the entire game
>>57094765Additional consoles are not free anon.
>>57094858>Wrong, even though it's functionally dead.>>57095225>forgetting the point which is battlingThis is a retarded take. If you do facilities for the ribbons you'd be okay with there being no facility but there being ribbons.>>57095822see>>57093934>>57095850Unova has consistent (aka good) pacing. That's what pacing is supposed to be like. Kalos has wildly inconsistent pacing, making it's pacing very shitty..
>>57095889>If you do facilities for the ribbons you'd be okay with there being no facility but there being ribbons.You need to work for the reward.
>>57095911So if you like it because it's a reward that you work for, there are other rewards for you. Why does it have to be a ribbon specifically?
>>57095822>XYDaycareBattle Maison on Daycare routeBattle Institute in Kiolude (Singles, Doubles, Online, and Multi, with Super versions after beating the normals)Mewtwo in Pokemon VillageZygarde in its cave somewhereE4 rematchFriend SafariA berry patchStarter-locked roaming Legendary birdSky Battles>BWDaycareBattle Subway (Single, Double, Multi, with Super versions after beating the normals)Roaming Legend in Tornadus or Thunderus, with Landorus available after trading one of Torn or Thun to the other versionRoutes 11 through 15, with 3 different cities between them and pokemon outside the Unova dexAbyssal Ruins, with treasure to be sold found withinE4 RematchKyurem in the Giant ChasmEntralink (Local Wireless with multiplayer quests)Pokemon Musical, kinda like contests but not reallySeasons (i dont mind if you dont count this as its almost purely aesthetic, with like one or two items in Icirrus requiring it be winter iirc)Triple Battles (mostly in White)Rotation Battles (mostly in Black)
>>57095917Ribbons are the best reward because they stay with you. Something like big nugget or ability patch are kinda shitty. Ill take a giftcard or -30% off from the next mainline too but doubt thats happening.
>>57095932I see your point but I wouldn't judge a facility based on that honestly.
The only relevant ribbon question:Why does every champ ribbon description say you beat that region's champion, but Hoen's specifically say you became champion "somewhere long ago"?
>>57095925>Battle Maison on Daycare route>Battle Institute in Kiolude (Singles, Doubles, Online, and Multi, with Super versions after beating the normals)Sir you mixed up the battle institute and maison also battle maison didnt have an online set which the battle tower in gen 4 and the subway had in gen 5 and if we're being mean even the fuckin tower in crystal had this it was japan only and was tedious but it was there
>>57095925forgot about the royal unova on bws part, and black city/white forest if you wanna consider that something worth engaging with
>>57095925>>57095963Oh, and also BW's Battle Institute was left out. And obviously B2W2's.
>>57095963>battle maison didnt have an online setThis is a hilarious sentence to read. The Kalosschizo loves to play both of these cards to the point where they overstay their welcome, but they don't mesh well with one another lmao.
>>57095977BC/WF were one of the 3 cities listed in >Routes 11 through 15, with 3 different cities between them and pokemon outside the Unova dexThe othet two being Undella and Lacunosa>>57095963Quite frankly the Maison sounds institute-y and the institute feels very maison-like, woth its dukes and marquises>>57095980...isnt the subway the unovan battle institute? There isnt really anywhere else that i can say is worth being called an institute in unova
>>57095925Battle Maison is in Kiloude, Battle Chateau is on the daycare route, and Battle Institute is in Lumiose. Also the fact that you count "seasons" as postgame for BW but don't count the Looker Bureau sidequest with Emma as postgame for XY seems rather disingenuous.
>>57096010OH RIGHT THIS WAS ABOUT POSTGAMEhalfway through it just devolved to raw contentalso fuckin rip forgot the actual institute in lumiose even existed. just shows how long its been since ive played (the game is 11 years old. people who grew up on it can drink, much less post here)
>>57096009yeah but its more a weird proto streetpass mechanic than a city
>>57095995I wish i knew what you meant but i didnt put any stake into reading the retard argument going on in the thread i just wanna bitch that i lost the side content in the games to stupid shit that serves to make the lives of compet players batter or that is absolutely pointless like curry and sandwiches atleast poffins and blocks for how pointless they were added to the contests systems. Like theres no reason why the wifi rooms should have been removed from the tower because once that and the removal rotations and triples happened that fuckin componet became worthless specially if you played it often good luck dealing with the lack of new trainers to fight which was the entire point of the wifi room and the extra battle formats gamefreak you assholes. The only battle facility with any worth after the maison(which its only worth comes from the chantalenes being either hot or cute, and the oras remix of the frontier brain theme) was the tree and thats only cus they put old trainers there (without remixing their themes something even fucking black and white 2 did) and even that i discount like hell.
>>57095959Because the Gen 3 Champion Ribbon is also given for beating the Kanto Elite Four in FRLG, not only the Hoenn Elite Four in RSE. So they have to keep the description ambiguous since you can't tell whether it came from Kanto or Hoenn. The Champion Ribbon is the only ribbon you can get in FRLG.
>>57096009also the battle institute is the furthest southwest building in nimbasa, next to the pokemon center. you cant enter it until the postgame iirc.
>>57096009>isnt the subway the unovan battle institute? There isnt really anywhere else that i can say is worth being called an institute in unovaInstitute like the subway is in nimbasa. Institute to the left, Gear Station/Battle Subway to the right.
>>57096009The Institute is it's own facility separate from Subway.>>57096010>tried to bring up the postgame Looker quest in XY but not the postgame Looker quest in BW.I'm assuming that this just an honest forgetful mistake, yes?>>57096095Yeah but prior to Gen 6 it name dropped Hoenn. I'd think that they did it because of ORAS but that never happened with any other remake.
>>57096129>tried to bring up the postgame Looker quest in XY but not the postgame Looker quest in BWThat's because it's a longer quest in BW
>>57096140>maybe if I put my shitpost in spoiler tags it will magically become true
>>57096140>thought he just gives you the super rod>turns out you help him round up the plasma sages across the region>>57096149If only it was a shitpost
>>57096149It's true. Sure XY's is more dialogue and story driven, but it takes quicker to do. You know exactly where to go to trigger the next piece of it, while the Sages are in places you have no idea they're in.
>can't get Johto champion ribbon>can't get ribbons from Unovamake it make sense, at least beating Red gives you Living Legend ribbon.
>>57096164>an entire fleshed out story with multiple battles takes less time to do than flying to 6 locations and reading 1 line of dialogue each from the sages who did nothing the whole gameThis is why no one takes you seriously, sagefag.
None of you will ever be happy no matter what Pokemon does because nothing they do will ever recapture the magic spark you felt from the franchise when you were a kid who didn't know what masturbation was yet.The franchise is designed in a way where you're meant to grow the fuck up and move the fuck on. That's why Ash always reset his team for each region. That's why Gen 3 didn't bother figuring out the logistics of transfer with the Gameboy era. That's why the dexcut happened.GROW. UP.MOVE. ON.They made a game for you people, you know? It's called Pokemon GO. That's your game. They know that as an adult, you don't have the free time to fully appreciate a proper game on dedicated hardware. That's why GO exists.So go on. Stop fucking with GameFreak's creations and get packing to GO.
Sonicfags are less annoying that pokefags when it comes to postgames
>>57096262Do sonic fans bitch about postgame content? If so they need to bark up another tree.
>>57096210You are aware that there are only 4 trainer battles and they're all with essentia, right?Not to mention the whole quest takes place in one location.
>>57096247This is a schizo rant if ive ever seen one because brother if they meant for the players to stop they sure wouldnt be appealing to their nostalgia and making changes to competitive battling most of which done by teens and adults. That sint me sayin that poke fucks dont need to grow up but that is me sayin they sure aint tryna miss the market that sticks with you cus if they wanted us to grow up and stop playing pokemon would have died after gen 3 when people did grow up and stop
>>57096276>Do sonic fans bitch about postgame content?Sonicfags bitch about a lot of things but even they are less autistic than pokemonfags while doing it
>>57096281>lying
>>57096338>baseless accusationhow many battles are there then?
>>57096327Look here im a sonic fag too i bitch about alot of things but thats cus im a retard and because i think sonic frontiers was gay for copying botw and should have copied jak and daxter,ratchet and clank or like mario odyssey and had a hub that naturally led into linear levels. Any sonic fan bitching about post game is a literal dumbass whos only played like sa2 or something cus what sonic game prior to adventure 2 really has a post game?
>>57096210>I-it has a story!How is it more fleshed out than the sage quest? With Emma, you go from place to place (knowing where the next one is, mind you) and read text dumps. With the sages, it's still a continuation of the main story that takes longer because you have to actually search for where the sages are (as opposed to the Emma story which points you in the direction of the next plot point) so it's an actual quest instead of a traveling and text simulator.
>s-sagie!>s-sagefag!Anyone who says these words needs to be waterboarded.
>>57096424Nice try Sagie
>>57096426Okay, death to you.>>57096431>parrottingAnyone who parrots should also be waterboarded promptly.
>>57096431Parroting is not admission of defeat btw.
>>57096438Of course it is, but even if it wasn't, samefagging surely is>>57096426>>57096431Post screenshot within two minutes or else you're gay and you will die a virgin.
>Sagie projecting again
Three bullets not just for Yawnnigger, but three bullets for everyone that's ever enabled him and thus inspired literal years of shitting up Pokemon game discussion on 4chan.In fact, three bullets for all the other schizoniggers and everyone that's ever humored them, whether by deliberate provoking or giving them attention in the first place.
>>57096485Where's the projection? Are you projecting projection lmao>>57096480And he never did. He'll do it in like half an hour after he edits it.
>>57096509Most normal Unovafan.
Anyone smart enough knows it's always the same two shitposters
>>57096515>UnovafanHe described a Kalosschizo though ?
>>57096532>>57093012
>>57096544Parroting? Show me where I parroted.
Sagiecord really didnt send their best this time.
>>57096343i ask again, fuckwit, how many battles are there, if there arent 4 of them?
My favorite part was when Sagie said XY didnt have a bike.
>>57096553>adding to the "sage" vocabulary>le heckin quoteless judging postWater boarding and three bullets, psycho.
>>57096577see>>57093934Still unanswered several hours later. Looks like we have no adults ITT and no one bothers actually continuing logical exchanges.
>>57096588Whats that, the welcoming ritual to Sagiecord?
>does the lineup of features still dwarf chain fishing and radarNo.
>>57096607/thread
>>57096607Kek how delusional. You'd rather settle for smaller features than just admit there are upsides to other games. Your hubris's showing.Here's the list again:PWT, Pokestar, Memory Link, Enntralink, and others, which include musicals, funfest missions, having more ribbons having XY, having more Gems than XY, and having more locations, etc.>>57096596No, the treatment for psychoses like you who imagine boogeymen everywhere and larp as them to satisfy your delusions.
>>57096607>>57096595i'd say bw and/or b2w2 has more features than xy, going off of >>57093934 and >>57093779. they DO dwarf all of the pokeradar and chain fishing. >>57093750 the fuck is this bait?
>>57096641All of those are worse than Radar and Chain fishing.
>>57096654wait wait wait>less features is betterwasnt the argument that more features is better?
>>57096654-according to your schizophrenic delusions, sure
>>57096654Pokestar alone logs both. It's the best side feature in any Pokemon game on the merit of actually using the battle system in an unconventional way.
>>57096661You can check youtube how many people are shiny hunting vs how many people are doing funfest missions. Surely you find some channels who do only funfest missions?
>>57096668But enough about shiny hunting what about the two tiny sub features that you mentioned? Anything on those?Plus, you're comparing one to one. I gave you nine advantages, and your retarded argument was that your two were better than my nine combined. My nine combined have more YouTube activity by far than your two. trust me nex to no one's shiny hunting via radar purely because they added the radar system of finding shines. Many people are playing Gen 5 on the merit of all those added features thogh.
>>57096683https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLP3FCDcrR4yeah found lot of videos and channels on radar hunting but 0 with funfest missions.. thats weirdTheres even monthly shiny hunting community events hosted by big youtubers but 0 events hosting funfest missions.. thats also weird...
>>57096668people dont shiny hunt in gen5 because the pokemon are mostly ugly + it added shiny locks. kaloschads keep saving the franchise
Also lots of people like our guy werster is streaming lots of actually good endgame like HGSS and Platinum content but not that much funfest missions or pwt.. i wonder why that is...
>>57096705>comparing a niche group of autists who want a pokemon of a different color>vs incredibly niche side missions where you get extra items, including berries since you're so autistically fixated on themGee, I don't know. Which would make better content for a YouTuber who wants to be boosted by the algorithm?>>57096716How do I make my own shopping mall in Gen 6?
>>57096731Funfest missions and the PWT are harder and HGSS has the nostalgia boost.
>>57096731He only streams battle factory because of the randomness, same with Japanese streamers
>>57096746wow... hardest unovian content...
>>57096757honestly, SOUL.
>>57096757Correct, 10 times in 3 minutes is a difficult task.
>>57096731>our guy wersterWho?
>>57096797he's shilling himselfhow sad
we've unironically shifted to shilling YouTubers to judge the quality of contentPWT, Pokestar, Memory Link, Entralink, musicals, funfest missions, having more ribbons having XY, having more Gems than XY, and having more locations, etc.These BTFO fucking chain fishing and radar easily. If you find yourself disagreeing, you are deluding yourself.
>>57096412>>57092519>>57093707>>57093936>>57095771>>57095925>>57095963>>57095977>>57095980>>57096343Wild how these will remain unaddressed. there will be claims that these were addressed, but they were not. Go through every reply and anyone with eyes and a brain can see it. On top of that, there have been samefag accusations and screenshot requests for proof that was never followed up on, as well as requests to quote posts to prove where the opponent parroted or projected that were never once responded to.It’s nearly depressing to think what the hubris of one person can drive them to do and what madness it can inflict upon their own mind and actions. He deluded himself into genuinely swearing by the idea of two small features messing up to nine large ones. His only retort will continue to be “they’re just better lol” as if it convinces some group of tourists somewhere.It’s ego all the way down. Yawnfag will never rest until death. Reality is bleak, but it’s real.
>>57096731Werster speedran PWT a few years ago, even went over why it was a neat concepthttps://pastebin.com/v74uqth8Again, he brings up team building for type expert as the main point of interest here
>>57096731And nobody streams XY at all. Hell, most of the people who do Maison runs on Smogon have absurd streaks in Triples because it's so fucking easy to just win.
>>57088113Post game isn't real, play a different game after you finish one. Games aren't meant to be a treadmill forever. Stop begging for slop.
>>57097434>maybe if I put my shitpost in spoiler tags it will magically become true
>>57097473>i-it’s easy!!!and yet you cock slurp the PWT perpetually
>>57097946>battle maison>battle institute>inverse battles>battle chateau>restaurant battlesXY has a battle frontier according to sagefag logic
>>57088113>>57096188you retards are really something you know that
>>57098001It's yawnfag, what did you expect.
