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>waiting for opponent to return
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15 wins with my Florges deck now, at my pace of 5 wins a day so far I'll finish up by the end of the week.
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Apologize
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>>57121485
I seriously hope you guys don't do this (attack)
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I like it when the Celebi coinflips make a pretty pattern.
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Do you need the rainbow rare legendary birds for the emblem or are the regular EX fine?
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>>57121465
Wet
Misty
Ass
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>>57121480
It seems decent. I was thinking of running him but I had no idea who to pair it with besides hypno for sleep memes
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>>57121490
rainbow
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You just know
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Sooo what's the cancer meta like atm? Glad to see Pikashit getting it's shit pushed it. Mewfags are still total cancer tho.
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>>57121502
About 75% of my opponents are playing Celebi EX Serperior decks.
It's not actually better than the old meta decks but it destroys most off-meta decks way harder than them.
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>>57121496
I run 2 full lines of her with 1 of Slurpuff and Beheeyem lines as my other mons
Beheeyem is actually really good, but I don't run two because the opponent might not put many mons in back, and that's why I use Slurpuff
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Anyone vpnx?
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>>57121480
Congrats, I think it's a cool card but it could have been so much better. Compare it to Scolipede and you can see how lacking they made it.
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>>57121491
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>>57121480
Are you >>57097661?
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>Celebi
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>>57121523
Kek
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>>57121525
No, I haven't pulled a single Mew EX lmao
Not that I would use it anyway, I don't really fuck with EX mons other than Lapras EX and that's because it's not even all that strong kek
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>>57121499
That you're a retard?

Absolutely
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>>57121529
So what's the list?
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>>57121523
If Serperior can double every mons grass energy, Aerodactyl should be allowed to prevent evolution across the entire bench as well. Or at least let you pick which pokemon can't be evolved
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>>57121465
Tombussy would cure me
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>>57121535
no
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>>57121534
2x Florges line
1x Beheeyem line
1x Slurpuff line
2x Potion
1x X Speed
2x Ball
1x Slab
2x Research
1x Giovanni
1x Sabrina

Is it at all competitive? No.
Is it mine and also fun? Yes.
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>>57121480
List?
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>>57121552
>>57121551
kek
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I hate mystic slab
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>>57121535
That's too far and will just mean they never add good fossil supporting trainers.
How about if it's on the bench then it stops their active from evolving, and if it's active against another EX then it stops their bench from evolving.
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>>57121535
Aerodactyl ex references a 1997 card that worked that way, but there was a 2011 card with the same effect that was ban-worthy cancer.
DeNA is airing on the side of caution.

>>57121551
Thanks. I have 1 Florges, 0 Floette, and 1 Flabébé but I have everything else. I'll try this out during the Psychic outbreak.
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>>57121556
Leaf left
Onix middle
Hypno right
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My phone is made of birdseed and covered in BIRD SHIT
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>>57121578
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>>57121502
Mistyniggers always were, and still are, the most cancerous players.
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>>57121594
>Untitled
Colonoscopy
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>>57121568
That Archeops is dope
I liked to block summoning in yu-gi-oh too
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I'm in the exact same spot as nidoking where I pull the alt arts and just feel obligated to make a deck out of them even if never gave a shit about them before
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>>57121628
>stun nigger likes broken banned cards
Classic
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>>57121594
Based and rape pilled
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>>57121634
I'm not trying to die of boredom watching people shuffle their entire deck for 4 minutes straight
We pass turns like normal people
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>>57121593
Give me one of those it's the last card I need to have all 68 non-full arts in the MI set
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Meh
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>>57121644
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6jknAPdUFo
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Do not thank Druddigon stall fags
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>>57121648
Sure bro I'll trade you one when that comes available in 2027
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It's crazy how centralizing mewtwo is. The only reason this Gyarados deck is catching on is because it counters mewtwo it only does okay against other decks. Same thing happened with Venusaur. All decks in which their primary strategy do not counter mewtwo need to get luck to beat it. Mewtwo just starts on the path to victory because of it asinine stat line
>50 for 2 allows it 2 shot most 1 prize front liners(This is why everyone is playing Druddigon to make mewtwo soften himself up while you stack energy on your anti-mewtwo
>Its 150 hp allows it to tank unfairly hard for a basic 1 potion makes it take 3 turns to take out mewtwo dealing 80 per turn and a Giovanni cant save you
>2 retreat cost means it's pretty easy to get off the field if it is going be KO'd and is free if you have both X-speeds or a leaf in hand
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this card is ugly, but in a nice way
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So is there a non cancer grass deck now that we have serperior?
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>>57121686
Mewtwo should be powerful, but I do think a 3 retreat cost is reasonable. Just make it a bit clunkier.
Same with Celebi, 1 energy retreat is too strong.
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>>57121686
If this game had a ranked mode, you could create some dumb bot, make it play the mewtwo deck, leave it playing over the night and just come back to a high ranking, it's that much of a solitaire
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>>57121502
I'm seeing more Mewtwo ex than anything else, which is fine because I also run Mewtwo ex and win the majority of the mirror matches.
I saw far more Blaine decks in the last few days than Celebi ex decks and Pikachu ex is still around. Very few Misty (or even water) opponents and a couple Scolipede and other dark types.
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>>57121686
Scolipede.dek has a 72% winrate against Mewtwo and it's not prolific.

Gyarados is a strong deck because Pikachu is its ONLY bad matchup.
Mewtwo is Gyarados's third worst matchup, after Pikachu and mirror matches. 65% winrate.
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>>57121686
>poke ball
>slab
>slab
>oak
>now you have 9 cards in deck
Once other decks get their searches of choice, M2 won't be as good anymore. But being the only deck that doesn't either rely on coinflips or hard drawing things, it's going to be the strongest deck for a while
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It should at least tell you your next several energies so you don't need to guess whether or not you can use a multi energy attack if you start building it.
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I can't believe I have to say this, but DeNa has absolutely no reason to make a deck or even a card good just because you like it, nor are they required to shitcan a card you personally don't like. They're not forcing you to run a 2-colored deck. Grow up.
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>golem is in the finals of the 1.5k tournament
APOLOGIZE
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>>57121712
There should be a dragon support that discards your current energy and replaces it for the next one in cue.
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New meta just dropped sisters
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>cures your mobile game
bring in trevenant already
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>>57121712
>>57121722
Could make Lance give you the choice of what spawns in the energy zone for the next 2-3 turns
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>>57121721
>>57121727
golemGODS... we're so back
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>>57121727
>>57121741
>never ran into a grass deck for the whole tourney
Rigged.
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Everyone's Mewtwo lists are such ass lmao.
Just looking at limitless...wtf
>1 slab
>1 leaf
>1 potion
>1 gio
>1 x speed

I guess everyone is just copying another list, but in my opinion you're extremely retarded for not playing 2 Leaf 2 slab
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>>57121722
Just make it swap current available energy for a random different one that you have in your deck. Also an Eeveelution supporter that swaps all energy attached to a pokemon that evolves from Eevee to the pokemon's type.
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>>57121727
Hitmonlee's the key for your Fighting mood,
And you can Rock 'n roll with Geodude
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>>57121749
1 leaf is reasonable but not running 2 slabs is crazy.
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>Karp vs karp
>Miss the Misty flip
>End turn
>Opponent's Misty
>3 heads
>Hit Concede
It be like that sometimes
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I can't dothis 45 win shit again bros, it's too much of a grind. I'll do the 5 wins in a row again when that comes out but this one is just lame
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>>57121749
No Sabrina?? I have 2 slab, 1 Sabrina, 1 leaf, 1 x-speed, 1 Blue and no Gio
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Alright I fixed the joltik deck.
Since it normally bricks if you're off curve you're left relying on the soul of the cards and a soulful deck like this one is perfect for that.
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>>57121758
You've got almost 20 days left. Just do like 2 wins a day.
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>>57121758
Why are you trying to do it all at once? I just play enough games until I get 5 thanks each day, it lasts 3 weeks, you'll be fine
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>>57121756
I have had zero issues with 2 Leaf.
It's mattered literally 1 game and if I was playing perfectly I would have realized this spot was coming up and just moved Ralts out a turn earlier
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>>57121764
>80hp
lmfao
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>finally a full art appears in my Wonder Pick
>it's a m*le
Fuck you Gary, I don't like you.
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Wtf is up with this meta that's changing by the hour. I pity those fools who will make video essays about it years from now.
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>>57121758
You have over two weeks to do this shit stop trying to get it done over the weekend.
Just play a few matches a day so you don't get burned out. Chances are most of the try hards will fuck off after a couple days and the only players left are the ones trying to catch up.
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>>57121764
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>>57121758
Just play 5 games a day for the trans rights tickets
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>>57121699
venusaur/exeggutor which BTFO's gyarados and pikachu but loses hard to celebi and mewtwo
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>>57121767
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with 2 Leaf; you'll see it early more reliably at two, but it's not like it's vital to your strategy every game so you really don't need to run it at 2 either.
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>>57121763
This is what I'm playing and I wouldn't change a thing. If you expect a shit load of the mirror, you can cut a Sabrina for a Blue.

2 Mewtwo ex
1 mex ex
6 ralts
2 research
2 PokeBall
2 slab
2 Leaf
2 Sabrina
1 Red card

Never really needed a gio in the longest I can remember. The Pokemon stack is perfect like this. Leaf is so fucking good when you need to move Mewtwo out and letting him keep energy to get to 4 on the bench for revenge kill protection is key.
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I'm sorry I called this and new electrabuzz shit
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>>57121787
I do often miss having a second Sabrina, butBlue has saved me from a number of Mewtwo ex, Mew ex and Celebi 3 coin flips and I've learned to conserve the Sabrina better. I also have 1 red card I forgot to list.
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>>57121799
enlighten us, how are they not shit?
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holy shit blastoise ex is so embarrasing
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Ok, yeah. Gyarados is literally untouchable.
Only Celebi and backline attackers can actually deal with him.
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>>57121810
People were already running Pincurchin and Dedenne fills the same role for half the energy.
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>>57121812
Wdym, embarassing? For five energy it does 160 damage. That's not nothing.
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>>57121656
I have two of these but no rainbow Mew, they are handing this one out like candy
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>>57121810
Dedenne is quite good as far as random filler basics go. One of the only random extra pokemon that can steal games you had no business winning. Combos with zappy. Card is solid and better than all other basics besides the exs. I still think zebra is really good, but if you're playing Raichu there isn't really room for zebras
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>>57121799
>>57121817
It's also cuter than Pincurchin
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>>57121818
Needing an extra energy to start one shotting stuff and being stage 2 makes it far worse than Gyarados EX. Getting to sometimes poke with Squirtle/Wartortle doesn't matter when using a wall to keep your sweeper safe is better.
Blastoise is good if you can get it going but you will too often be a turn or two late compared to Gyarados.
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>>57121820
I believe that since it's the only crown in the set it's actually easier to get than rainbow mew and the trainer full arts?
I could be retarded though
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Behold the meta killer, when the 5 winstreak thing comes out I'm bringing this baby
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>>57121773
>m*le
>Gary
So much retardation in one post, you should also chop your dick off for being "m*le", dude.
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>>57121787
You can absolutely swap red card for Sabrina
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The issue is that druddigon is allowing gyarados to hit damage thresholds it normally misses. Mewtwo cant attack drudd without putting itself to 130 hp, and to top it off you can run greninja to allow a charizard one shot.
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>>57121828
>winstreak with a super luck based deck
Please switch to something more reliable after you get 2-3 wins. Or just get lucky I guess.
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>>57121828
What's the reason for the new (worse) Primeape if you have two event mankeys?
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>>57121818
Wait until you hear what Mewtwo does and without the need to evolve
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>>57121831
Ever seen someone concede after you red card? the funniest shit
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>>57121833
I've been seeing this for days. Gyarados is good but not great and the real star that is warping The Meta right now nis druddigon
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>>57121844
No, usually red card gives me a better hand.
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The fuck are they doing? They should have single potioned and used Genome Hacking for -20 damage.
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>this Ursiiday top 4
>people just misclicking end turn, placing energies and timing themselves out
bruh
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>>57121849
Abilities on a basic are a mistake
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>>57121849
Id agree if it wasn’t for Misty. Water decks have 2 chances to auto win the game
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>>57121844
I would say 9 out of 10 times red card is used on me it fixes my hand
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>>57121849
Nah, the fact Misty exists makes Gyarados a top tier card
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>>57121827
Crown is .2% odds and Rainbow Mew is .25% so it's not too much different.
Of course Rainbow Mew can be wonder picked so if every other day you're doing that then you'll get it soon enough.
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>golem deck won a game because of an opponent's missclick
not optimal but we take this W golembros
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Golem is gonna win the tournament, we won brockbros
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>literally disappeared from every deck
what happened to kangaskhan
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Chansey meta is gonna be insane
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>>57121869
it's completely mogged by druddigon
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>>57121840
because I only have one of the good primeape teehee~
no, really that's the reason, but you never get a chance to play a second mankey with this deck anyway
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>>57121869
It was always shit.
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>>57121869
Yeah, and I thought it would have more use with Leaf.
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my life is so empty now that i have the emblem
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>>57121856
Also there's nothing stopping the featured player's opponent from stream sniping. The featured player's hand is cropped out but every card they draw gets shown.
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>>57121856
>people just misclicking end turn
I've had my turn just randomly end a few times today without timing out. Either the servers are fucked right now or there's some hack/exploit that got around, and I doubt it's the latter.
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>>57121869
1 energy too expensive to deal damage and even more expensive to retreat
Druddigon is fucked up, why did they feel the need to add that shit
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>>57121868
>with a decklist similar to what I posted last thread
we are redeemed

though I'm not sure if I would play hitmonlee in the standard queue
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>>57121869
I use it on one of my decks, but its 2 druddigon 1 kang so lol
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>>57121856
thats why no one takes online pokemon tourneys seriously lol
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>>57121853
>>57121860
I used to play it like that, I just saw "my opponent has more than 3 cards" and played it.
Now I wait until they unsubtlety start loading energy onto unevolved pokemon and send their stage 2s back into the deck or use it when they make a play that only works if there is a sabrina or a leaf in their hand.
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>>57121869
20 damage for zero energy is better than an average of 30 for one.
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>>57121856
It’s kind of easy to like, miss the forest for the trees when you’re going through a ton of scenarios. I remember I was playing a sweaty Mewtwo mirror and thought up a good win plan after a lot of deliberation, before accidentally evolving my Kirlia in active instead of xspeed->evolve that I needed to do. Also the timer is really bad and it’s easy to get hypnotized by it because it disappears unlike the showdown one. The flashing cards are also annoying but that might just be a personal gripe
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>>57121869
Kangaskhan EX soon
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Something else that's annoying for battling is that you can't start doing the next action until the previous action finishes all its unnecessary animations with their delay times. Game won't let you play energy or a card for no good reason so you can't even play fast.
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>>57121901
Same reason I don't use flair since it adds unnecessary animation time to my turns.
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GOLEM WON
GOLEM WON
GOLEM WON
GOLEM WON
GOLEM WON
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>>57121868
Holy fuck golemgods, they won the ursii 1500 participant bo3 tourney
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>Gyarados deletes energy from Metwo two turns in a row
>he doesn't have Garde
Best feeling.
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we. won.
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>>57121867
I think Golem would have won either way.

If they didn't waste the second Potion
>Genome Hacking, Golem goes to 60
>Guard Press, Mew goes to 10
>retreat to Arcanine, Potion, Inferno Onrush
or
>retreat to Moltres, Potion, Giovanni, Heat Blast
and then they can win if the second Golem hasn't been drawn
... which they would have drawn, because their deck was almost out.
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aero golem deck viable?
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LMAO GOLEM WON
We’re definitely getting meta defining exs in Set 2, non ex decks winning tournaments is very bad for the precious dena shareholders
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>>57121869
>3 retreat in leaf meta
>investing energy for coin flip poke in OHKO meta
mogged by dragon of healthy retaliatory violence
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link to stream?
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GOLEM
GOLEM
GOLEM
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>>57121916
I tried it and it’s ‘ok’ but the list from the tournament winner is much much better. Aero is just kind of outright bad unfortunately
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is this the first non-ex winner in these big tournemnts
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>>57121918
Golem is harder to pull than any Pokemon ex in the set.
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i always rated golem
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>Golem meta
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>Golem made Melmetal even more shit
zzzzzz
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>>57121930
But I have 3 of him
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>>57121929
Koga and Blaine have won smaller tourneys, but ursii ones have mostly been the big ex meta decks until now
Drudd was a sleeper carry too, single handedly helping Gary and golem vs the other meta decks, I was a true dragonbro from the beginning I just want to say
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>I dont have 2 brocks
It's over
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GOLEM
GOLEM
GOLEM
GOLEM
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Is there a card that hurts pokemon on your own bench? I think there is right?
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>GOLEM WIN
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Opening the app to see if I have a Golem playset
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It's not the exact same deck but I always believed in Golem supremacy.
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>>57121958
Gyarados can take your benched energy but that's it
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>1 Graveler, 1 Golem, 0 Brocks
It's over...
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>>57121958
Normal Zapdos
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>only one leaf
>despite having completed the entire new set
lol ill use a second potion i guess
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>no vod
WHY
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>>57121973
Ah right thank you
Man what a shit card though
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>queue up
>face 2 golem decks in last 4 games
nyooooolo
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I literally told you guys yesterday that he is the answer to gyara shit
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>>57121958
Zapdos. Time for some Druddigon and Primeape kino??
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>Aerodactyl throws my stage 2 pokemon back into my deck
lol
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>>57121993
Visualize the energies
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>>57121930
I crunched the numbers and that's simply not true. It is for Genetic Apex, but the 3-diamond pool is smaller in Mythical Island (8 v 14) while the 4-diamond pool is the same size (5 v 5).

You should expect 1 Celebi for every 32.8 packs you open, 1 Mew for every 41.6, 1 Aerodactyl for ever 45.6, and 1 Pidgeot and 1 Gyarados for every 51.8.
You should expect 1 Golem for every 32.0 packs you open.
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>want to try it
>meme deck
Okay I won but that was scary
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>>57122006
your cards have a lower hidden rating score you get matched vs children
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>>57122009
>muh deck weight
Big if true.
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>>57122009
i unironically believe this is real
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>>57121777
What does Defias Pillager have to do with the deck?
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>>57122015
It's true. Source: An anonymous poster on 4chan.org/vp/ told me it was.
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>>57122016
it is real the other anon confirmed it, put in 2 lenses and 2 pokedexes and see for yourself
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>>57122009
My deck stuffed with ex cards never gets paired against level 7 kids anymore so this is real
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I think I have one of every Kantomon, so how do I get my Mew? Or does it only count if they're all from the first set? I thought it said something when I hit 250 cards about getting the secret card but I don't know.
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>>57122006
that's a wild one, real trainers win with their favorites I guess
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>>57122026
It's a mission you need to complete it.
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>3rd turn
>Killed both oponent's magikarps
>Concede
holy shit the Hitmonlee meme is not a meme
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WHATS THE DECKLIST
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>>57121878
>professional esports
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What are some good cards to splash with Aero EX? Or is it just waiting for future support? I feel like it's too slow for its ability to ever matter. Even vs the PVE, when I got it out early vs Magikarp, the opponent just retreated it and evolved it anyway. I think on top of Land Crush it should have gotten a 1 energy attack that traps (say like 40-50 damage).
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You guys actually see gyarados in versus? For me it's still mew2 and celebi exclusively
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>>57122035
Amateur esports. This isn't a day job for any of the contestants.
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No sabrina makes this deck hard to play for me
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>>57122039 c >>57122009
The matchmaking thinks Gyarados is a bad decks so it's stuck tormenting piles of garbage.
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>>57121987
If you misplay maybe. Just keep Magikarp in the active spot. Without energy shenaningans they can't surprise switch and attack.
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>red carding all the new golem decks in post 45 wins event queue
LMAO
Stage 2 decks getting cucked
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>>57122009
Bullshit, I run meme 2 diamond decks and get slammed by celebi all the time
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>>57122051
>keep it in the active spot
thats risky. Turn 3 frog can do 30 damage and ko, same with rapidash. Its a flawed card
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>>57121887
Timer is dogshit to deal with in pocket especially since you can't queue up actions and you literally have to sit there through the entire animation to do anything
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>Lose one pokemon
>About to lose Golem
>"Ah shit lost first game"
>Only lose 1 point from Golem
>Finish the game with the second one
I forgot how cool nonEX cards are
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>>57122036
feels like it has to be primeape/hitmonlee/marshadow shell but even then I don't think it's enough. it's just too hard to guarantee you get it early. maybe there's a baby pidgeot shell?
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>>57122054
That celeryfag spends more money than you so they teed you up for him to win.
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>>57122065
Non-ex makes the game way more flexible.
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I haven't gotten a single win all fucking day
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>>57122058
You don't generally run Greninja or Rapidash in the same deck as Hitmonlee.
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I just got HAMMERED by a Mewtwo deck
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Japanese names are the ones stalling for time most often in my experience
fucking chink bugs pieces of shit
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>>57122029
Yeah, it's Genetic Apex only. I'm still missing Golem and Vaporeon, though I have them in Mystical Island.
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>>57122072
>someone says my conspiracy theory is wrong
>how about my next conspiracy theory that totally doesn't contradict my first conspiracy theory
Gachafag schizos are funny as fuck, take your meds Lil bro you're not better without them
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>>57122066
I thought about Pidgeot but it takes long to set up too with its evolutions, so by the time you're whirlwinding Pokemon in they've evolved already
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why is moltres ex coin flip ok but misty isn't
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Beat children with low value cards
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>>57122094
based child beater
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>>57122094
Heheheheh
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>>57122092
Moltres has a hard cap, Misty doesn't, same reason Celebi coin flip isn't ok
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>>57122092
Moltres ex is NOT ok, that's bullshit and you know it
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>>57122081
what deck do you play
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>>57122094
I bet you have to be american to get matchmaking like this.
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>>57122086
Whatever you're doing it needs to stop.
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Moltres Arcanine is not ok!
Moltres Charizard is very ok!
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>>57122101
>hard cap
in what world does that matter? A single extra energy from Misty is enough to completly break the game
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Made an actual fun deck with Celebi but this thing is so ass, 1/5 on the crucial flip. Still won but every advantage I took it just sets you 3 steps back.
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>>57122101
Celebi has a hard cap that's equal to the number of provided energy.
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>>57122112
kono sekai
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>>57122108
matchmaking is global stupid
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>>57121551
>1x Beheeyem line
>1x Slurpuff line
Any particular reason you're not running 2x one of these 0x the other?
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>40 damage taken from Moltres
LMAOOOOOOOOO
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>>57122118
Yes, and only americans get matched against children.
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>got drunk and cheated on my GF, now I feel like shit
Decks for this feel, bros?
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>>57122125
Blaine
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>>57122114
That's like saying Misty has a hard cap that's equal to the number of heads flipped, when you change what things mean then you change the point, both are not hard because they're not fixed
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>>57122125
tauros with chansey only
you have to punish yourself
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>>57122125
Kwab
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>>57122119
Well, Beheeyem is dependent on circumstance, if the opponent doesn't have a bunch of basics then it doesn't really give good returns
Slurpuff is decently bulky, but is only 60 for 2 energy.
So, I use them to account for each other's weaknesses.
Mathematically, is it correct? Probably not, but I don't claim to be a deck building pro, I just wanted to use Florges and the deck I've made suits me.
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What an asshole
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>>57122122
decklist?
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>>57122131
>cap that's equal to the number of heads flipped
That doesn't even make sense.
You know how many heads Celebi can roll before it starts, ergo his flips are capped. You don't know that for Misty or Eevee or Lickitung - their rolls are not capped.
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>>57122125
Now you've got a trump card under your sleeve, if things ever go really bad remember you never actually respected or loved her and she was actually cucked and lied to for however long you two lasted together
You've got the upper hand in the relationship now, and she doesn't even know it. You won
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>>57122137
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>fought 3 DruddGyaraNinja decks in a row
>2-1 win ratio
Goddamn, everyone running this boring-ass deck now, huh?
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>>57122137
Same as
>>57121945
Don't sleep on the Hitmonlee it's actually INSANE
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>>57122142
>that one cheeky hitmonlee to snipe a karp
hehe
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>3 Aerodactyl EX
>still no Pidgeot or Gyarados EX
>only 1 Celebi EX
fucking hell I wish Aero wasn't so useless
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>>57122140
>You know how many heads Celebi can roll before it starts
Saying "before it starts" is only according to a random line you drew in the sand at the start of the turn which is disingenuous, you don't know how many heads Celebi can roll before the start of the game for instance, because it doesn't have a hard cap
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how is golem not insta-losing to celebi?
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>>57122141
>do not use/respost my work
anon why are you not following the artist's wishes?
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>>57122152
Pidgeot is useless too, I wouldn't want any myself
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>>57122101
Moltres averages 1.5 and Misty averages 1. And Misty being uncapped is irrelevant because anything above 4 might as well be 4.

>>57122092
Moltres is also bullshit, but people are more tolerant of it because you have to spend either 2 energy, 1 energy and a card, or 1 energy and 2 points to use it.
It also helps Moltres's PR that all big Fire Pokemon suck.
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>>57122159
According to another anon he didn't match to any, but not sure if to take that as truth
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>>57122164
true but I'd like one just for collections sake
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>>57122155
If it was a line in the sand you could just wipe it off before it starts flipping.
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>>57122159
Weakness doesn't matter in this matchup
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I'm glad he didn't have celebi considering he's lvl 10 :^)
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>>57122122
> -30
I THOUGHT IT WAS -20 Golem is a menace
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>>57122155
You can calculate it based on the number of turns and the probability of drawing all stages of Serperior, are you retarded?
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>>57121748
Wouldn't have a made a difference in the slightest golem doesn't afraid of anything
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>>57122146
>Don't sleep on the Hitmonlee it's actually INSANE
He should know that by now. People have being saying that since launch.
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>>57122159
It's literally just +20 damage per attack and also you won't believe what Golem can do by just attacking
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>>57122159
Because celebi is a literal vegas bro deck while golem just needs a drudd chip or gio to one shot, you need 4 energy and serperior to one shot golem on *avg*
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>>57122185
it's not per attack
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>>57122165
>And Misty being uncapped is irrelevant because anything above 4 might as well be 4.
Misty doesn't cost any energy or involve any retreat cost or 2 points lost, it's just a free card that at worst is just a dead card
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>>57122190
>per attack that lands*
is that better you autist?
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>>57122125
Use Golem and get your life back together, your new arc starts now
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DECK WEIGHT IS NOT REAL
DECK WEIGHT IS NOT REAL
DECK WEIGHT IS N
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>>57121748
celebi gets 1 shot by drudd and Golem too, +20 doenst matter that much
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>>57122198
what the fuck does this mean? there's no misses in this game
it's -30 from the total attack damage, thats it
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>>57122125
Golem
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>>57122159
Golem is never going to be active without his attack buff so Celebi is doing -10 instead of +20. That means 4 heads are needed to kill it.
Conversely, Golem one-taps Celebi if Celebi hit Druddigon or Golem has Giovanni.
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>>57122181
>based on PROBABILITY
Are you? Do you not know what probability means? Probability itself means you're not talking about a hard cap. I wasn't upset about this before but it's just so annoying when midwits start talking shit when it's obvious they have no clue what the conversation is.
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If you want to complain about unlimited energy, then you should be looking at Gerdevoir -no coin flips, just gives you FREE ENERGY 100% OF THE TIME AT NO COST every turn. Unlike Misty it can switch targets for each energy supplied and there is no cap - it's infinite.
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>>57122205
We're talking about weakness which is the only factor anon would be bringing up Celebi up for the Golem matchup in the first place
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>>57122215
There is a cap on the number of turns a match can last
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>>57122215
It's a stage 3 mon
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What counters or wins hard vs druddigon?
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>>57122214
OK, show me how you flip 10 coins on turn 1 with Celebi if his rolls are uncapped. I'll wait.
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should I buy the gardevoir set or season pass
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>>57122228
Unironically Farfetch'd, losing it doesn't matter and you kill it in 3 turns which is faster than it takes the other person to build their nuke (usually)
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>>57122228
Baby Pidgeot or Victreebel
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>>57122228
He's setup fodder for energy ramp units like meltan, lilligant and moltres EX
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>>57122228
Blaine and Koga decks can kill it quickly without heartache if they're on curve.
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>>57122228
sabrina
poison
heavy nukers
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>>57122228
Don't attack him until you're ready to nuke his ass
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>>57122229
It's very obvious you don't know what hard cap means now. If Celebi could flip 10 on turn 1 and turn 20 that'd be a hard cap in itself. The very point is that it's not hard at all since it changes based on the course of the battle, which goes over your head for god knows what reason.
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>>57121918
It's a Stage 2, we're fine. If it was a deck of all non-ex basics and Stage 1s, we'd be in trouble.
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>>57122229
Retard
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>>57122242
>Koga
Not really. You will do 2 or 3 hits (depending on if you started hitting with Koffing or waited to get Weezing), which puts your Weezing at 70 or 50hp and it's your opponent's turn now. Most things can hit 70 for 2 energy.
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>tfw 1 drudigon
>too jewish to craft one
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>>57122228
I've had some luck running Volcarona in my Arcanine deck. if you're lucky with Moltres rolls you can get him set up and start sniping shit on the bench while they're stalling
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>>57122227
Searchable with slab
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>>57122248
>Celebi has no cap
>OK, show it
>u-uh, no, it's like he doesn't have a cap, but actually does, so it's impossible but I'm still right
You're arguing like a child.
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>>57122259
You don't know what searchable means
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why am i suddenly getting weezing and scolipede matches now
did celebi users give up
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this golem deck is solid bros, way better than that metal shit deck since you can accelerate with Brock
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>>57122201
>Deck weight is a Zoroark

>>57122253
Scolipede. You don't even need to Posion it first.
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>>57122264
Plus you don't just fucking die to Mewtwo
It's legit retardedly strong
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>2nd evolution stage at the bottom of the deck
great game
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>>57122086
How the fuck is this working.
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>>57122193
I don't like this
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>>57122273
He's confident.
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JUST FLIP THE COIN
WHY DO I NEED TO SWIPE FOR IT
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>>57122282
auto flip when
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>>57122282
play the game :)))
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>>57122261
No, you (unironically no u) are acting like a child by picking some dumb strawman irrelevant to what's being said and attempting to play the dumb game of having that be the goalpost, which I have no reason to entertain. You know it can't be 10 on turn 1 but you should also have the brains to know Celebi has no fixed number of coin flips, yet you're unable to accept that because you want to play smartass and change the definition of things.
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>>57122285
OK THEN WHY DOESN'T IT MAKE ME FLIP ALL THE REST HMMMMMM?
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>Articuno cooked my Golem deck
ah
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>>57122262
>muh semantics
Ok retard
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>>57122286
I still stand by the fact that Celebi's number of coinflips is hard-fixed to be the same as the number of provided energy. If you think that's wrong, feel free to continue screeching.
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why does zapdos have 1 retreat cost
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>>57122301
Lightning Fast
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>>57120423
This is good too but I only have one Koga sadly
>>57120429
I don't have Greninja, but after I made that post I was able to pull a Wigglytuff EX. It doesn't make much of a difference I guess unless I mega bricked and need to hard stall, but it has come in handy compared to other options. The Druddigon is amazing though, not sure why I didn't think to put him in there. I'm just running Blue until I can pull one more jiggly and wiggly cause I can't think of anything else. Dragonite is way more fun than my only other deck which is Egg/Onion, flipping coins gets boring after a while.
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>>57122297
You also don't understand what a semantics argument is, searchable means something completly different to what Slab does in a tgc
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>>57122228
Starmie on curve or Pika with a gio is as good as it gets because you’re taking so much momentum from the deck out of the gate
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>>57122303
Leaf is so cute......
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Done.
I got so many 5+ winning streaks against celebi and gayardos players. The second event will be easy.
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>>57122301
that electric gimmick
low retreat cost
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>>57122228
Weezingchads, as usual, win
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>>57122310
No one is going to play those decks by then
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Has Gary Oak/Blue/Green ever helped you net a win /tcgp/ because I swear people were saying this card would be a staple in every deck
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>>57122298
What you're saying is you stand by the fact that Celebi has a SOFT cap, you just don't know words yet feel the need to butt in for the sake of irrelevant midwit-level akchully comments because of god knows what upbringing led your brain to be programmed this way.
What you're doing is literally as braindead as standing by a variable output being a fixed value depending on its input.
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lol stupid
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>>57121523
This shit is so fucking dumb
The sad part is Aerodactyl is still the best fighting EX just because it doesn't have a retardedly overcosted attack and fossils are decent utility.
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>try golem deck
>gravelers are at the bottom of the deck
cool deck compfags
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I wish pocket was one of those rare mobile games that got hacked to shit and have a version that isnt absurdly pay 2 win lol
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>>57122316
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZGOUkjwDay4
You tell me
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>>57122303
The only decent Dragonite deck right now is Druddigon honestly and it's still really bad and just hoping enemy bricks.
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Four battles in a row I've fought against a fire deck while trying out a metal deck.
This is so rigged.
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golem can beat celebi ez, giovanni or druddiggon passive kills the tranny fairy
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I don't get why people are saying Celebi sucks now. Did I miss the memo? She's fast tempo with infinite scaling and good stall? Why does she suck?
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volcarona kinda based
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>>57122335
>she
.........
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ArticunoEx is such a faggot card
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shouldnt the golem deck use 2 giovannis instead of 1 potion
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>>57122339
WAIT IT ONLY DID 80 AND NOT 100 DAMAGE
I still won, but if you target the bench, it doesn't apply the weakness damage??
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>>57122306
The game will never give me her full art cause it knows I'd never be able to play afterwards cause I'd have to stop and fap to her armpits
>>57122331
Trust me I know it's not great at all but I love stalling and Draco Meteor makes me cum
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>>57122321
>volcarona
I have made Arcanine+Volcarona deck but I am yet to try it.
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>>57122340
You're telling me that tiny little fairy is a guy? Men can't be fairies. What the hell?
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>>57122343
More than 1 gio is extremely situational, meanwhile that potion can help Drud or Hitmonlee tank an extra hit
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>>57122319
That's not what a soft cap means. You could say that Celebi's soft cap is 4 heads, since any further heads don't bring any (or almost any) additional gains. You could say that a soft cap is the lowest effective/efficient limit of something, not the theoretical upper limit.

>you just don't know words
Kek, look who's talking.
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>blocks your path
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>>57122345
>WAIT IT ONLY DID 80 AND NOT 100 DAMAGE
Bench damage doesn't care about weaknesses.
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>>57122089
they can coexist at the same time though?
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>>57122362
y tho
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>>57122335
You didn't miss the memo. That's just how it is because the game is that volatile with all the RNG flying everywhere. I play Celebi and haven't fought too many Golem decks but I whoop them when I do without blinking an eye. Druddigon is such a non-mon too since I can just OHKO or Sabrina past it. People just like having their wtf shocked moments. Golem is a nicely designed card, don't get me wrong, but people are going overboard if they're putting down Celebi.
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>Golem tanks charizard
holy.
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>>57122362
I remember back when weakness, resistance and +/- damage effects were only applied to the fat number next to the attack's description, and not to any part of the attack's effect text. But nowadays Zebstrika applies weakness if it hits the enemy active.
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>>57122345
>but if you target the bench, it doesn't apply the weakness damage
Correct. Pokemon like Volcarona can still get +20 if they target the active Pokemon but Pokemon like Hitmonlee that can't target the active Pokemon never get it.
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>>57122370
charizard does 200
how the fuck does it tank it?
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>>57122351
I'm using that deck rn to rack up wins, it's solid. Volc is situational but has come in clutch a few times
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>>57122316
Yeah.
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>>57122370
>>57122361
https://youtu.be/VfBFSCjAeWc?si=htF2XpH1Ibxk2Y_0
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PikaEX takes no skill & you NEED to kill yourself NOW for using it
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>>57122377
Charizard ex does 200. Charizard does 150.
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>>57122387
why even mention non EX lmao da fuq
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>>57122385
Its fun tho
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>>57122377
thats charizardEX
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>2024
>I am forgotten
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>>57122396
the retreat cost is fucking shit
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>>57121831
I would highly highly recommend NOT cutting red card. It's very good against the mirror, Celebi, frogs, Charizard... basically any deck with stage 2s.
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>>57122398
i guess its suppose to be a go all in type of card
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>>57122355
>You could say that [let me draw up an arbitrarily chosen definition to pretend I ever had a point when my very argument to begin with was that variables have fixed outputs depending on the point of the battle, ignoring the very point of being variable]
>Kek, look who's talking.
Yeah, you are. This is not my first rodeo with a midwit.
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>>57122396
>kills itself
whoopsie
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I'm not falling for the Golem propaganda
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>>57121878
The fact that she doesn't put it on a even a 3 minute delay is pure pain.
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this game is beyond saving
the only hope is for even more spiked powercreep every month
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>Still liking Golem
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>>57122396
You’re only allowed to run the new Gem deck if you ran Golem unironically in Apex meta, tourists get out
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Golems attack should be called Mating Press
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>>57122368
Literally this, this game invites wild card action all the time with its constant RNG, Celebi deck hasn't let me down and there were people in the tourney making dumbass misplays anyway like in the finals, people just want an excuse to be excited

>>57122408
Smart man, not to say it's an outright shit deck, but it's pretty obvious people are just looking for an excuse to be excited to play something new just because it managed to win
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Here you go
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Any good cards in the expansion for fighting chads?
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>>57122335
Celebi is good for random play and general yolo shenanigans.

But for tournaments and meta play, people value consistency much more highly. There's no real advantage to playing a deck that can fuck you over if you get unlucky, when you can just play a more consistent deck and make good decisions.
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>>57122438
see
>>57122429
>>57122142
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why does a card like professors research exist?
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>>57122438
new Mankey/Primeape are forgettable
Marshadow's solid
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Someone else made one of these parodies
https://youtu.be/Og1xZ-2RxGc
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why should I ever give thanks? there's no incentive for me to do so
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>>57122428
>it's pretty obvious people are just looking for an excuse to be excited to play something new just because it managed to win
anon you literally just described the concept of having fun
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>>57122451
It allows you to draw 2 cards from your deck
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>>57122438
HAHAHAHAHAHA
no
MEMElem works tho
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>>57122458
you need an incentive to be nice?
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>>57122458
Why should I never give thanks? There's no incentive for me to do so.
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>>57122458
based
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>>57122466
the incentive is that I lost and I hate you
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Jeez guy had all these cards in his showcase and not a single like
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>>57122451
Because earlygame LOVES to give you bricked hands without it whereas your opponent is just wasting time despite have everything they need right off the bat
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>get max emblem
>run meme decks in the event to fuck around
>only getting matched with other people with the max emblem using tryhard luck build casino decks getting perfect draws every time while all my starting hands have been bricked
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>>57122368
It's not about Golem at all, Celebi is just inconsistent as fuck. It is essentially a worse ZapdosEX (3 energy gets you 4 coinflips for 50 damage each). PikaEX decks use Zap mainly as a huge HP sponge with a 1 cost retreat, and an energy dump for when there's nothing else to dump it on.
The fact that it needs a stage 2 backing it up to become a real treat is also not very good.
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Machamp sisters... why'd they print golem?
Also, Brock is a really good card, but until the newest golem it didn't really have a home.
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if you run any card with a coinflip im not thanking you
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>>57122461
It's not about preventing people from having fun, it's about what people wind up perceiving to be serious out of what's said and done on account of that fun
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>>57122481
The new Golem isn't significantly better than the old Golem. The new Geodude is why Golem can see the light of day.
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>>57122486
You mean Graveler.
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There are no consistent decks in this game what the fuck are you talking about
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>>57122482
If you go second I'm not thanking you
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>>57122489
CORRECT
My bad.
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>>57122482
>>57122492
if you win, im not thanking you
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>>57122472
why would you ever lose? there's no incentive to do so.
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gengar EX has to 3 shot golem lmao
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I'm not sure if deck weights exist, but weights of some sort for matchmaking definitely do. I have like 75-80% lifetime win percentage with over 600 wins and I only play against people clearly trying to be competitive. Doesn't matter if I play M2, Pika, Blaine, Gyrados, etc.
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>>57122478
Funny because Zapdos EX is the real playmaker in Pikachu, Pika is for fast aggression, but against bulkier decks you make more progress putting energy into Zapdos, the ones that use it mainly as a sponge are usually inexperienced and are throwing away their actual win con at times
Serp is great but Celebi really only leans on it if the opponent has all their pieces to set up fast, otherwise its early game pressure can be good enough to win
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Post your stupid fucking golem deck then
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>>57122501
If you have an 80% win rate you're definitely not going up against competitive players.
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>>57122464
>Tanks your EX's big "fuck you" attack
What now?
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>>57122482
ok I expect you to give thanks to my Mewtwo deck
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>>57122486
I think the new golem IS significantly better than the old. In fact, it's way better. Even against M2 where one could argue old golem shines, new golem does better against 2 Mewtwos shooting 50hp shots
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>>57122507
I'M CONFIDENT AT ROLLING HEADS
*flips 8 coins for Celebi*
alternatively
*just sends out Gyarados*
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drudd pidgeot
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>>57122505
I literally have never played against RandomCardsIOwn.dek since like week one of the app.
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>>57122478
I feel like this is just a temporary snapshot opinion. Like what you're saying isn't wrong, but the deck has not let me down. There's for sure RNG involved so that it can backfire and validate what you're saying, but in practice it exerts enough pressure early enough to push out wins anyway. If I lose, it's more so because the opponent drew well enough to set up multiple (often evolved) rotating sponges to prevent OHKOs and has a lead on energy. At which point, I wouldn't blame Celebi but just the nature of the game being volatile.
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>run basic blaine deck
>win consistently
The low odds for bad sequence of draws or starts sucks but it's nowhere near as bad as the way coinflips can fuck you
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>>57122366
maybe you should read the rules, retard
damage on the bench never apply weak/res for damage.
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What are some classy solutions to the big dino with the spikey skin?
Who has the hot tech?
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>>57122519
where are these rules
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>>57122522
put chatot in front and draw your entire deck
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>>57122515
The idea is you can get Drudd online if your opponent waits it out?
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My most successful decks in getting my badge were Scolipede and Celebi + Mew (nothing else).
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>>57122518
I've played a shit load with Blaine and the deck is insanely underrated.
I really like playing a farfetchd btw.
Haven't tested a new Magmar, but it doesn't seem terrible as a 3rd Ninetails
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>>57122522
1 shot it.
Hope their nuke isn't >= x - 20 where x = your nuke's hp.
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>>57122523
nav bar => hamburger menu => tips => scroll down => "About battle rules"
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>>57121526
That reminds me. What is Alakazaam's fla that prevents him from being the name to the big bois?
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>>57122515
Way ahead of you boss
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>>57122539
Alakzam's flaw is that Kadabra is dead weight.
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>gayrados player too scared to play magikarp all game because of Le KICK man
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>>57122539
>Awful basic
>Awful stage 1
>low HP
>low damage if they just put something in front of you
It's still pretty bad.
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>>57122551
Weird question, but is the damage from Druddigon considered to be part of the attacking Pokemon's attack? (i.e. does the buff from Guard Press apply?)
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>>57122561
it still damages golem
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>>57122561
>is the damage from Druddigon considered to be part of the attacking Pokemon's attack?
Nope.
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>>57122522
run a sniper to put pressure on their bench
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>>57122532
>new magmar
>80 attack for two energies you have to refill unless you build around it (why would you)
I seriously don't see why you would bother with it
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>>57122486
>>57122489
The new graveler is not at all why golem is succeeding. It definitely helps but the thing what golem really needed was a front liner to protect it while it stacks energy which Onix did not provide for it tack on hitmonlee sniping prevos for 1 energy and you got ine of the best decks in the game

BOTH golems have good pay off, The MI one is about as good as Venusaur ex but it's a I prize and the old one can 1 shot the biggest meta threat right now. I would say its safer to run 2 MI golems as it can run through most decks in the game but I like to run 1 GA golem just to fuck with celebabies
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>>57122551
is this the tournament winning list from today?
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>>57122576
yeah but i swapped a sabrina for the potion
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>>57121757
Opponent's Magikarp can't evolve on that turn with a whopping 30 HP bulk. It don't be like that for me.
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>>57122522
Pikachu decks are running Zebstrika or Electabuzz.
Fighting decks are running Hitmonlee.
Starmie Lumineon sounds like it could be a real deck, but I haven't seen it yet.
But Volcarona is too much of a commitment for Moltres decks, I think.
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what is it about druddigon that turns most players into mouthbreathing retards who stall because rough skin is apparently scarier than letting you build up golem/meltan/whatever the fuck else
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Never bricked this fucking hard before, turn 12 and there's still 5 basics and 2 pokeballs in the deck, thank fuck the opponent was retarded and tried to set up Mew against Pikachu
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I have been getting fucked up lately, wonder pick refuses to throw me a bone. Is there a trick/exploit to this shit or no? i hate how hard it is to get leftover cards in genetic apex. Ill never have a gengar ex, 2nd zapdos ex or 2nd blastoise ex.
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>>57122588
I always just swing at it
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>>57122316
it's a meta card that you only put in specific decks for specific matchups (i.e. in blaine so ninetales lives 1 hit from pika or 2 hits from mewtwo, in mewtwo so it can live another mewtwo/mew psydrive). unironically high skill card.
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>>57122592
i brick often like this
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the game suddenly stoped matching me against children, maybe a nintendo kike is sitting here
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>looking at recent tournaments
>1500 man tournament won by GOLEM
>check thread, ctrl + f "golem"
>82 results
I see you guys have already been celebrating
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>Yesterday
OMG Gyarados is the best deck in the game!
>Today
OMG Golem is the best deck in the game!
So this is how the meta is going to be huh, wait until some ewhore streams and just copy whichever deck comes first?
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>>57122608
Gyarados is better, Golem is omega luckshitting
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>>57122608
When Iris drops dragon CHADS are going to win BIGLY
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>>57122588
>blaine ninetails attack the active one
>sabrina the other they pull and kill their mon they were guarding
>concede
happens more often than not
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>>57122613
thought i had a stroke reading this
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>>57122567
Because it's a third Ninetails in a way. Your pokemon either need one energy to function or are a big hitter. It seems totally reasonable.
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>>57122593
Just wait for trading bro
You don't really need a 2nd zapdos with the isles expansion, there are decklists out there running one or none of zapEX
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>>57122608
People aren't used to having a larger cardpool to build decks with. Everyone was so buck broken by the same copy/paste Pikachu and Mewtwo decks dominating the game since release that it's jarring to see literally anything else beating them.
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>>57122608
lmao the Golem guy got extremely lucky, Golem is still a meme
if a Golem win ever happens again I'll eat my hat
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>>57122611
>gyrados is better and Golem is omega luckshitting
>gyrados has stage 1 and 2 stage 2s and Misty
>golem has 2 stage 2s and no stage 1
>no coinflips and uses honorable BROCK
kys
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>>57122316
I’m trying it at 1 in my Arcanine deck for things like the mirror match, but so far it has been most helpful to prevent Articuno chips. If Gyarados becomes the new thing (instead of Celebi), I might swap Blue out for another Gio to hit the 130 and 150 break points more often.
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>>57122621
misty is fair and balanced
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>>57122574
I just soloed my opponent's entire team with new golem twice. Old golem can't do that. New golem is a huge improvement.
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>>57122613
If druddigon or whatever the fuck it's called continues to be popular, gio gets more appealing in Blaine. I also think Blaine does quite well against these stall decks.
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>>57122593
It may sound esoteric but really just trust your instinct. Too many times I've nit listened to it, only for me to tap on a card and immediately get that feeling of "shit, it's not here, it was probably there" and be right about that.
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Day 1 Drudd enthusiast btw
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>>57122586
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How many Mew EX do I need for the meta cancer Mewtwo EX deck, I only have 1, need to start pulling for the 5 streak event
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>>57122632
Mewtwo EX deck only runs 1.
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>>57122632
Just 1.
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>>57122631
two misty?
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>>57122631
>flute
actually evil
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Zam is working wonders for me so I'm sharing this list with you guys
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>>57122632
Most decks run 1 but pic rel. was 3rd place at the big tournament today.
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>Grass and Water both get strong new supports
>Venu and Blast both suck ass STILL
what do they need to not be ass
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>>57122637
Higher chance to get 2 energy turn 3 to swing with a stage 1.
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Gyarados? Never heard of him
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no EX chads we run this shit
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>>57122603
I noticed after I got 45 wins in the event it only matched me with people who also got 45 wins.
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>>57122644
Red Trainer card that lets you insta evolve one Squirtle, Bulbasaur, Charmander, Pikachu, or Eevee card.
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>>57122592
I had a game with Pikachu EX and literally nothing else for several turns but useless trainer cards and I was like aight guess the game wants me to lose
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>>57122649
hey dude stop
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>>57122649
look at this image and tell me deck weight isn't real
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>>57122649
>Three Energy Gyarados
Does playing Dragonite really give you shitters?
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>>57122638
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>>57122632
Just play my list. It's so fucking good
2 M2 ex
1 Mew ex
6 ralts
2 research
2 PokeBall
2 Leaf
2 slab
2 Sabrina
1 Red card

You can cut a Sabrina for a blue if you're expecting mostly mirrors, but honestly I'd just leave it like this otherwise.
2nd mew fucks up your consistency
Budding explorer seems bad.
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>>57122649
>Swanna
>Pokedex
I would uninstall if Iost to you with a meta deck
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>>57122649
>3 energy 70 attack
LMAO
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>>57122642
Any thoughts on hypno?
Haven't fucked with Alakazam yet, but leaf makes hypno a lot better
You could also explore playing some druggigon or whatever it's called
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Why do japs only play articuno? Every articuno player I faced this week are japanese
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>>57122665

2 pokedex
2 the fuckin thing i forgot its name
1 low value dog shit 2nd stage so you dont pokeball it
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>>57122685
Chronic addiction to masturbating to Misty please understand.
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>>57122636
>>57122635
That's fortunate for me
>>57122642
If 1 Mew can get the job done I'd rather not pull for the 2nd, need to start pulling Pikachu packs for the dex.
>>57122672
Looks good, I'll probably cut the Red Card for an X-Speed though, I make a lot of X-Speed + Sabrina plays that end up winning me the game in most of my decks which I can't make with Leaf
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>4 times in a row i queue into druddiggion/gyrados/greninja deck
Alright, time to start 20 minute timer stalling with chansey
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>>57122685
soulless grinding wins for tanaka-san on his train to and from work
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>>57122608
I feel like everyday everyone jumps on the deck of the day bandwagon. It was Mew2, then Celebi, then scolipede, then gyrados, now it's golem. It's like this thread is having a metaseizure.
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>dont get the right energy for 5 turns
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>>57122649
alright bro time to hop out of beginner tier and stop bullying little takuto
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>>57122697
Nah, I'm a day 1 Scolipedo.
Scolipedos REPRESENT!
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>>57122697
claiming i’m a day 1 pidgeot (normal) stan before it wins a tourney
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>>57122704
subaru will get what he fuckin deserves for the thing he did to yamamoto and mazda
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>>57122712
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>>57122649
decks like this are unironically cringier than tryhard meta decks. you're not cute for purposefully running shitty cards.
>teehee I just don't know any better because I'm not a sweaty meta slave
meanwhile you're a grown ass adult who can only win against literal children. it's embarrassing.
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>>57122608
>>57122697
Yeah it's pretty embarrassing. I kind of don't want to be associated with this general if things are going to be like this because it demonstrates a devastating lack of creative thinking if they boxed themselves in like this that they act so surprised something else can manage to win.
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>>57122728
uh oh metatranny meltdown
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>>57122697
I’m still riding out the Arcanine + Mew deck, personally, but that was mostly a reaction to the flood of Celebi in online matchmaking.

Speaking of, the event is making players salty again. I have a 0% thanks streak going with M2 / Zard players, and I’m positive it’s a reaction to Mew.
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>>57122728
wow ok meta tranny, jimmy is going to pay for those words and its your fault
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>>57122728
im gonna rape you but dont worry im just trying to be cute
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>>57122728
i’m sorry you lost to slurpuff anon
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>>57122728
Mindbroken by Swanna
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what about golem + onix
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What's the first card/deck that comes to mind when your brain processes the word teehee?
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>>57122755
meltan
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>>57122755
wiggly tough
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>>57122753
That's what people were doing during GA and it wasn't good enough.
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>>57122755
Weezing.
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>>57122758
>>57122758
that was with the shit golem and graveler
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>waste 70 dust on a 2nd drudidgon
>it bricks the deck and makes it too meta
had to take the farfetched
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you’re telling me it’s not spelled “Onyx”?
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water deck? time to alt tab and stall for 20 minutes
i shant be giving easy wins to water cheats
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it’s only ever the ones that luckshit their wins that flex I swear. nice giovanni pal very well played of you to induce me to draw a hand of 1 basic, 1 jumbled evo and useless trainers
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>>57122697
I was talking about Golem the day the set came out because he looked like he had potential. The other underdog card with potential I saw was the new Raichu (With Magneton/Surge support), maybe that's going to be the next new hot thing, but I doubt it.
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>>57122768
Haha dumbass
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>>57122753
Onix is fucking shit, I really tried to make it work but it is Just Bad
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>>57122755
what does that mean
no really i dont know
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>>57122773
What the fuck is your deck?
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>>57122781
It ain't bad
It ain't nothin'
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>>57122777
The raichu is currently unusable in random matchmaking. Celebi is far too common, and 60 damage to the active isn’t enough in that matchup.
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>>57122773
with that deck you're giving easy wins to literally anybody with a brain
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>>57122777
doing incremental damage isn't good enough so that raichu will never get played
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>>57122649
>2 retards fighting
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>>57122697
i made this the day after release and it's my main deck now
i've been dabbling with the other EXs and big cards i got from my packs as well as stuff anons have reccd, but i'm still trying to figure a lot of things out by myself.
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>>57122783
tehehehe~
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>>57122142
This is exactly the deck i'm running except for the hitmonlee
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All the metal wank here and golem has more results
What's the deal
What kind trainer would even benefit metal types
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>>57122777
MI Raichu needs second turn maximum possible card efficiency to have any amount of usefulness on top of your opponent bricking when it would be better at that point to just use GA Raichu
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ive seen a nidoking today
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>>57122814
p. cool
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>>57122142
>2 retreat geodude
nigga what
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>>57122829
The new Geodude also retreats for 2.
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>>57122821
The metal wank is literally a single guy, he just never shuts up about it when he's here.
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>any time you make a edit to a deck it reverts the energy types
Fucking retarded
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>>57122839
He's having fun.
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dude imagine if pokedex reshufled the deck if you dont like the 3 cards
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>>57122846
I could see a Supporter pokedex that gives you 1 reroll
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dude imagine if pokedex flipped a coin after you saw the cards and reshufled the deck half the time
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>>57121799
In 20+ packs i only got 1 FA egg and TWO of these niggas
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>>57122608
The truth is that DRUDDCHAD is carrying this Meta
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>>57122864
I'm 30/60 for the Mew coin mission. 3 FA Dedenne 3 FA Marshadow 2 FA Vaporeon. And fuck all else.
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>>57122814
so this is just a shittier weezing deck?
man, I get that some of you prefer to figure things out on your own. but you could really be doing so much better.
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and the nigger charizard hits for 200 and the discard 2 is meant to matter?
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>>57121465
I picked the one I never pick
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>>57122814
shouldn't salazzale and sandlit have thier attacks swapped?
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lol
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>>57122896
>The males will do whatever the females tell them. They give the females most of their food. Due to malnutrition, the males can't evolve.
>Only female Salandit can produce gas laden with pheromones. Males entranced by this gas will do whatever the females tell them.

>For some reason, only females have been found. It creates a reverse harem of male Salandit that it lives with.
>Salazzle lives deep in caves and forces the Salandit it has attracted with its pheromones to serve it.
>The winner of competitions between Salazzle is decided by which one has the most male Salandit with it.
>When two Salazzle meet, they will use their pheromone gas to fight over the males in each other's group.
>It punishes Salandit that couldn't bring it food with a fierce slap of its flame-spewing palm.
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>>57122876
i just felt like making something where Drudd could be more than just a wall
>>57122896
Scolipede line and Muk line already function like that
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>>57122905
Bet you don't have the Surge in hand, so you had to crop it to appear cool.
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>>57122908
This is what i mean when i say some pokemon are just designed to be fetish bait
Meanwhile im over here jerking off to Penny deepthroating a Sylveon and being called "strange" for it
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>>57122923
I was actually missing my second raichu lol
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>>57122924
>Penny deepthroating a Sylveon
Based.
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>>57122924
Stay safe out there.
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Isn't this one of the posters here? He kept feeding me his mawilles for some reason
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>>57122933
HEY THATS ME FUCK YOU CHUD
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>>57122924
You're still strange.
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>57120776
>57120791
Got the Explorer on top middle.
He cute.
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>>57122933
If he is his name's not on the list.
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>>57122935
>he consneeded
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>>57122642
Budding is bad here
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>>57122939
List was full when I tried to add them. :/
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>STILL no god packs on the tranny discord
what the fuck that takes a long time for a bot ot get one
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how do you get the mew coin?
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>>57122953
You could bot.
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>>57122955
we are so back
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>>57122954
Themed Collection mission
https://ptcgp.raenonx.cc/en/mission/activity/MI_AC_2408010_08_001
"Use pack stamina" includes spending gold and glass.
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>>57122954
Open 60 packs.
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>>57122959
>>57122960
wow good one guys
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>>57122946
Keep trying.
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>>57122957
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>>57121710
>slab
I absolutely hate that they gave this card..
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>>57122957
>Owned cards
>11
Ah yes another legitimate account.

>>57122961
FYI in case you're sick on the new pack already, you need to "use pack stamina" to open 5 packs for a New Year's mission.
https://ptcgp.raenonx.cc/en/mission/group/MI_GR_2408010_NEWYEAR_01
So stop at 55/60 and get the coin in January if you'd rather be opening Genetic Apex.
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>>57122960
Does this mean free dailies don't count for it? And only hourglasses spent count for it?
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>>57122970
The only packs that don't count are packs you open from your gift box.
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>You wanna dab on Celebi?
>just use Alakazam bro
>Just use Golem bro
>just run this stage 3 pokemon while Celebi can just gets two energies to potentially hit you for 100 damage

even the CPU is whooping my ass, what do I even fucking do against this deck?
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>1500 players
>Celebi was the second most popular deck
>Not a single one made it to top cut
Johtocucks got to cocky with their meta call again
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>>57122905
im working on a schizo theory that celebi rolls again if it hits over 50% of its flips. I have distinct memories of god misty rolls, curving gardevoirs, zards etc, eevee ohkoing things, and I don’t have a single one with celebi. I’m not even yoloing either, just playing normally and it lets me down every time, i give up, the schizos win and every TCGP conspiracy is true
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>>57122982
you dont have drudd god protecting your backline? ngmi
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>>57122970
"Pack Stamina" is the name of the cooldown bar.
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>>57122982
Blaine deck
If you lose it's either cause you had shit luck, opponent had good luck, or skill issue
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>Lost because I needed Giovanni to take out Mewtwo but it was the last card left in my deck I hadn't drawn
Feels really bad when this happens
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>>57122988
skill issue
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>experimented with old areodactyl deck
>beat few gayardos ex and celebi ex metafags by removing all their Pokemon from play
Too bad it's so inconsistent. They should at least make it 1 energy attack
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GOD i fuckin wish i could set up auto play and forget about the game
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>>57122989
>Just run this shit card and sack it and give your opponent a free point
>You'll deal 20 damage bro
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>>57123016
>>57122955
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>>57123021
link???
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>>57122957
What is this discord kurwa?
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swapping hitmonlee for 1 onix is also pretty nice in that golem deck
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>>57122608
>anons first introduction to how metas evolve in games
Kinda cute, people always wait to copy the lists with results, how the "pro" scene plays has always affected casual play, from people looking for new decks to play to regular duel grinders to sweaty trihards who have a mental breakdown at the thought of not playing a meta deck

Besides the neet seethe about egirls is funny as fuck, the ursii tourney is huge in comparison to all rest and bo3, the quality of the results wouldn't change if it was a guy hosting it instead
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Moltres+Arcanine+Volcarona vs Moltres+Arcanine+Charizard
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>>57122335
I'm glad that you can beat literal children with unoptimized decks, but I prefer actual data over anecdotal copium.
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>>57123019
>Deals at least 20 guaranteed damage after forcing the opponent to spend turns not attacking building up to oneshot it
>Shit card
Imagine if there were an item card that said: "Give your opponent one point, their active Pokémon takes 20 damage and neither player can deal damage with their active Pokémon for 2 turns"
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>>57123043
>Moltres+Arcanine+Volcarona
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>>57122982
Just play M2 retard
>>57123044
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>>57123048
If you're at risk of opening with a high retreat cost Pokemon that sounds better than Druddigon.
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>that wondershare friend code autism
nigga they write paragraphs like trannies and all it comes down to is that they dont add from the chat, just sent the invite
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>>57122478
Celebi has the options to attack with just 2 energies, and turn "3 energies" into 6 flips. It's not as simple as paper numbers, just the opportunity cost to flip 2+3 coins in the turns Zapdos will only be able to flip 3 is a pretty huge difference. Celebi can also be stored on the backline as a final solution with a higher ceiling.
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>>57123043
I swapped from Charizard to Arcanine/Volcarona and have been getting way more consistent wins. Zard is still decent just takes too long to set up.
idk if Volc is ideal compared to just running Moltres/Arcanine but it throws people off guard and has won me a few matches so I'm keeping it.
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>>57123066
There's no reason to run just Arcanine imo. Either you run Volc or you run Mew, otherwise Arcanine straight up loses to EXs that can take his shots and oneshot him back.
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>>57122975
I haven't even gotten one of those yet.
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uohhhh
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>>57123071
We're getting them as rewards for the Christmas missions and New Year's missions.
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>opponent gets heads with misty and all his gyarados attacks discard my energies
>sets up 2 fully energied soifacedos
>he still loses vs the golem + marshadow tag team duo
BROCK BROS we won
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>>57123060
Druddigon's retreat cost is barely relevant because you'd usually rather he go down to give you the free switch in to the thing you built up while also dealing damage. If you have tools to get him out and they let you, that's just a bonus saved point
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>>57123072
sugoi
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>>57123016
Kys now, botting was fucking huge in master duel and even more retarded than here since it was usually first turn OHKO decks, even if you could stop them it was incredibly unfun and boring to play against
Nobody cares how retarded you are and how much you want to cry about having to actually play games
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>>57122982
>Celebi
lol
lmao even
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>>57123004
it just won’t stop, I never pulled marowak but now I understand the pain of the people that played it. I think I’m just gonna ditch the mon entirely, you wouldn’t use a 25% or 50% accurate move in competitive pokemon
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>>57123088
is your name Nguyen by any chance
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Man i would really enjoy a charizard ex or a arcanine ex or a moltress ex or fucking anything besides a grass ex i already have so many fucming grass pokemon i have like 5 grass decks POCKET TCG PLEEEAAASSSEEEEEEE GIVE ME SOMETHING BESIDES GRASS
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https://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournament/675dfa1c95f729096d72928a/standings
>top 8 has
>3 Pikachu EX
>3 Moltres.dek
>1 Gyarados EX
>1 Golem
Golem was the standout winner
Pikachu/Fire overtook Gyarados in the end
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>>57123120
Did you miss the free Arcanine wonderpick event? I got like 5 copies from that thing.
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>>57122651
Once I get magneton I'm running this but with Galvantula instead of Druddigon and Electabuzz. Report back.
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>>57123133
Drudders is op
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>>57123072
>blue and his pokemon
Kino
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>>57123133
Where are the Celebis? It was broken according to this general.



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