>>57195757
Do people actually collect these coins?
I used to have one or two of these small ones as a kid.
I really dislike the new large plastic ones that come with some promos. I don't even know what to do with them, I just have them sitting in a jar.

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Japanese promo bros, how are we feeling?

>>57195775
I kept mine in a box which I couldn’t find when I started collecting again. I miss them.

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Total and complete lizard death

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>>57195791
>expensive in english
>expensive in japanese

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>>57195791
Sublimely, got these yesterday from Osaka's finest singleschad store.

>>57195831
How much did it cost? The box I got was 70 USD,which is think is cheaper than the promos individualy off ebay

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>>57195757
I want a Rirrie coin.

>>57195848
Does the box include all 3? I thought they were promos only in English. Anyway yes, I paid 90€ incl. shipping for all 3 singles

>>57195875
2 of them are ARs in stellar crown and charmander is a promo in the obshittyan flames etb

>>57195875
Yes all 3 plus some other shit no one cares about

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>still buying Engl*sh

>>57195912
>both of them have her crotch covered
owari da...

>>57195912
forgot the feet

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>>57195972
Koreans can enjoy some crotch shadow at the expense of almost losing the bellybutton

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This pack had 6 males. Absolutely disgusting. I'll be burning them later but here are the cute girls. Bottom right is definitely the cutest.

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Chinks on the other hand won the feetbowl

>>57196078
Rin is cute. I don't know who any of the other thots are.

>>57196091
>>57196071
goddam now I need one in each language

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Update for future threads

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>still buying vintage

>>57196126
nice, thanks

>still buying physical

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And with that Pokemon revealed the pfp of millions of manchildren everywhere.

>>57196189
Xbox Live default profile pics energy

>>57196126
Can someone combine the cards and create a version with nothing coveres?

When do vaultx binders restock for fucks sake it's been months, are they scalping binders too now???

>>57196200
Chinese card has the best of both worlds already.

I've yet to learn the difference between "good" binders and cheap ones, and no one has ever been able to provide an explanation. And yes I've asked multiple times here with no reply.
I'm not talking about 3 ring binders, but equivalent cheap ones to vaultx or whatever brands, with strong pages and zippers. I don't think vaultx developed their own type of materials for use in binders and surely they use the same plastic as everyone else.
Please tell me why I'm wrong, I don't want to find out years down the line my cards are ruined. I'm genuinely curious about this

>>57196189
american version of the type of "cool" guy I explained in a last thread

>>57196233
I've found card guardian to be comparable

Unless you're looking for the set themed ones vaultx does in which case F

>>57196259
Card Guardian does indeed have the orange 12 pocket binder I was checking on VaultX, but they don't seem to ship outside of US

>>57196345
https://www.amazon.com/Card-Guardian-Pocket-Premium-Trading/dp/B0BW79XCNQ I got mine from here before learning they had a website, though I dunno how amazon works outside the states

>>57196248
Normally in your binder you are looking for:
1) no rings or at least rectangular rings with sheets that have some space between the holes and the pockets, to avoid card denting
2) zip to protect against dust
3) side loading to avoid losing cards if you keep the binder upside down (redundant if you keep the zip closed)
4) no shit-tier plastic for the pockets (pvc free) as it deteriorates and becomes yellow over time. In any case don't put naked cards into any binder, use at minimum pvc-free penny sleeves
5) solid materials for the cover without being low tier plastic/fake leather which become sticky or deteriorates over time

The most widely used ones such as Vault X, Card Guardian, etc. just happen to check all the above boxes while being the cheapest ones in the market.

>>57195831
>Osaka's finest singleschad store
Where at?

>>57196362
Thanks but form Amazon US I would spend 14$ shipping for a 28$ item despite having prime, additionally CG binders apparently have a known issue of slightly smaller pockets that fuck up penny sleeves, which are the ones I use as I don't like perfect fits.
I'll just wait for a new year's VX EU restock on my country's amazon, it can't be that far away.

>>57196248
When I was looking into getting my first binders often the biggest differences were a lot of the cheaper no name amazon ones were moldy or often just not well put together. Like yeah the materials might be the same overall but cheaper ones don't seal the pages as securely so the slots perforate and the like.
There's another brand I was looking at that a friend reccommended [Fabmaker] that's on the lower end but they had some kind of production change where they got cheaper and shittier past like 2020 or so.
Another thing i've noticed is of all the brands I've looked at, Card Guardian were the only ones I saw anyone mention hold up to actually being comnpletely stuffed with sleeved cards with no issues closing/zipping. I personally leave the very front and very back pages empty but one thing i've noticed of a lot of cheaper brands where they keep the same generally universal dimensions but stuff more pages in there.

Don't really think the materials themselves are the issue, just whether or not they're put together by chinese kids yanno

>>57196398
JK it was just the lowest listing I found for that set in NM condition. karateka_gamer on ebay, I checked other cards from them but they seem to be overpriced compared to other japanese shops, especially the giant ones such as cardster_tokyo.
If you are from EU anyway check cardmarket first, even the best japanese ebay shops with free shipping always have higher prices 99% of the time. From them I only buy new promos before they skyrocket, or the occasional discounted bundle such as those 3 starters.

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>>57196411
rip, hopefully they come back around
I may have overprepared when i got back into collection and and splurged on a bunch of shit I probably don't need, genuine question why don't you like perfect fits?
The KMC condoms felt like a pain in the ass so I got those dragon shield self sealing kinds and I've been liking them for my FAs along with some generic opaque sleeves
I'm realizing it does feel like overkill for stuff I'm not gonna play with, debating fishing out the personal collection from their toploaders to just get them a normal binder

the original shining card holos look much better in person i wish they revisited this holo foil type in the newer cards

>>57196453
I sometimes take cards out of the binder and out of the sleeves to show/make photos/trade, and with perfect fits it's a pain, even if you are careful to avoid denting the card, it still ruins the sleeve itself much more easily than pennies, and when you put the card back you may have a scratched sleeve that makes the card seem scratched by proxy.
If you plan to keep them safe in toploaders at all times, then perfect fits are better.

Do loose booster packs have worse odds of getting good cards than buying a booster box?

>>57196623
if you're buying english then no it doesn't matter

>>57196623
Any pack that you don't buy in person at a japanese pokemon center has been already weighted, xrayed, gammarayed, carbon-14 dated and any big hit has been teleported out of the pack with portal guns.

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>>57196394
>>57196424
okay I see, thank you anons, that's great input
I always use penny sleeves with any binder as I feel the plastic may scratch the card, especially if dust gets into the pocket, so I think I'm covered on the pvc part since I use picrel
I'll have to keep an eye out for when I fill them to max, as well as the sealing over time. For now the materials seems alright and there's no mold or anything peeling or separating.
The pages are just like those double-sided single dragon shield black ones, which I've tried before and seem alright. Not sure what type of page that's called compared to the single transparent plastic ones, and they're side-loading too
I guess mine was put together by chinese teens instead of kids

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>>57196450
disappointing desu

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You did this /tcc/...

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>>57196749
>using the Chinese ones and not the premium made in USA ones
bro...

>>57196799
Nuh uh, I have not and have no plans to buy Eeveeshit, The Set.

>>57196799
lol based.

>>57196799
They're going to sell them online at 3x the cost

>>57196857
In a year or two you'll be able to slurp up packs below MSRP. The Umbreon or whatever the chase card is will still be pricey but singles will be cheap.

>>57195757
Can it hold Jade ingots?!

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Surugaya order came in

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>>57196918
Never bought singles from them before so I just threw this in to see their quality control and shipping. The card is actually quite nice.

>>57196814
I've tried those as well, but they fit pretty much the same inside the binders

>>57196623
Soft no. Technically there are no guaranteed odds on anything. However, booster boxes are loaded with a consecutive arrangement of packs from the production line, which tends to fall into a pattern that provides an average of 1 Gold/SIR per box. While it is absolutely not guaranteed and borders on superstition, a lot of people will assume that there's not another major hit after that high rarity is pulled from a box. If we're getting packs from a box at my local tourneys, it's very common for players to opt out to another set if one player pulls a big hit from the box, or to lean more towards a box that they know no one has gotten a good pull from.

Comparatively sleeved boosters are more of a true random. Each and every one is a completely random pack off the line, no patterns or statistics beyond the usual pullrates. On one occasion my buddy and I both pulled the exact same SIR in the same night from sleeved packs.

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How much is this case worth?

>>57196918
That's a delicious looking tummy. Post the whole thing.

>>57197034
>vmax pika
ruined

>>57197034
who cares

>>57197119
Me, she spent $20K opening lucky bags yesterday and want to if she wasted her money.

>>57197193
>opening lucky bags
???

>>57197193
the mario and luigi pikachus are worth 3k each
the 20th anniversary pikachu are 4-5k each
rest idk
she probably lost some money but not -that- much

>>57196256
it says kowai onii-san. kowai means scary. its a scary guy not a cool guy.

>>57197295
in freedom land you have to intimidate to be cool

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>>57197034
$15k ish I'd say

Do any of you guys resell Chinese proxy or "DIY" cards on eBay? I noticed they're marked up like 900 or 1000% on eBay as singles compared to Ali Express.

>want surging sparks
>sold out
>want prismatics
>sold out
>want blooming waters
>sold out and people fighting in costco over it
what is going on? we in a bubble?

>>57197727
bubbles imply artificial price pump and fake demand. since people are buying at the ridiculous market prices resellers are listing, we are not in a bubble.

>>57197727
>tcg app comes out
>physical demand balloons
wow who'd have thought

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>>57197755
Did you drink a lot of lead paint as a kid?

>>57197898
and this is where most of the real demand is coming from.

>>57197922
oh wow, thanks for the phd, now i have three.

>>57196094
Rin best vocaloid, the other ones are h*man OCs for the mobile Miku game, pretty sure the pink hair one is a cross dressing dude as well.

>>57196094
>>57198014
>pretty sure the pink hair one is a cross dressing dude as well.
Bottom right one obviously, the pit slut has visible tits.

>>57197755
>bubbles imply artificial price pump and fake demand
lmao, you really think this is organic? There have been repeated and observable attempts to heavily pump the market since Temporal Forces, and suddenly a set releases with multiple cards that rapidly climb into the hundreds of dollars within the first week, FAR surpassing even Moonbreon at a comparable time. Booster boxes inflate to 200 dollars LITERALLY OVERNIGHT from release. It's the most manipulated it's ever been. Sellers are pumping prices on singles to ridiculous heights. More valuable singles incentives people to open more sealed. More products sales incentives scalpers and investors to scoop as much as they can. The fact that some collectors are stupid and desperate enough to actually pay the inflated prices set by scalpers doesn't make it any less artificial.

>>57198229
Your last sentence is more in line with what a "bubble" is. Artificial demand and pricing are not required. A bubble occurs when speculation causes buyers to push the price of an asset much higher than the asset's actual value. There isn't a good way to do this with pokemon cards. There isn't a great way to do it with stocks either but we can look at the total valuation in relation to the market cap and get a good idea. Pokemon is entirely speculative, so we have to look at the behaviors of participants to see if they're in line with a bubble. Are the behaviors we're seeing now sustainable? Will buyers continue to fight each other at Costco for pokemon cards? Will people keep paying $20k for "mystery boxes?" There is real demand, and people are paying the prices, but will they continue? I don't think so. Could be months, could be years. Eventually a large portion of the people that are in on the action will move on.

>>57197034
Is this girl the new pumper? The last guy had black and yellow hair, think his name was hikaru like the chess player.

>>57198346
moving on /=/ bubble popping though. i never said this will last forever. markets move. if things were a bubble rn then we'd have to see harsh crashes in short period of time following mass exodus of interest. that won't happen though, it will just slowly quiet down.

>opened 5 tins and a LO ETB
>that's 23 packs
>most valuable card was a 3 dollar reshiram card
sometimes i hate opening packs.
110 dollars down the drain

>>57198479
>23 packs for $110
why are you complaining

>>57198472
>It'll just pop slowly
ok

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Found an obscure website that had the arceus lunch tin for MSRP. He looks so soft. Mogs the zard imo

>>57198524
what the fuck do you think popping means nigger

>>57198596
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/stocks/10/5-steps-of-a-bubble.asp
Just read this and read the whole thing. There isn't necessarily a requirement that the bubble burst "rapidly," whatever that means, just that prices return to be more in line with the fundamentals or even below them. The bear market from the dotcom bubble lasted like 3 years. But that aside, your justification for it not being a bubble is based only on your own hunch that prices will decline slowly. So fucking what? As the other poster said, people are paying 3x MSRP for a chance at a fucking Eevee with jewels floating around its head because they think prices will continue to rise and they can flip it for a modest profit. How the fuck is this not a bubble? Pokemon cards are like shitcoins at this point with people paying $10k for the waifu of the week card.

>>57198645
retard

Should I separate waifu trainer cards and pokemon cards into different binders? What about the pokemon cards that have waifus in them?

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>still grading cards

>>57198645
What waifu of the week card goes or has gone for $10k?

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>still buying modern

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>>57199098
Not in this economy!

>>57199139
Man I love the weird oppressive vibe the early EXs had
Must be the millenial in me with a big soft spot for harshly shadowed CGs. that Kabutops is fucking rad

>>57195757
how much do you guys think i can make out of these pulls

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>>57199184

>>57199187
ill pay you one million dollars for these cards

>>57199187
4 dollars

>>57199251
>>57199187

raboot psa10 is 50

but the rest? Mmmm

>>57199258
too bad its not a psa 10, judging from your photo

>>57199258
thats a raw card retard

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These cards are polar opposites. One has a beautiful background to distract you from the god awful face. The other has a simple background and design that makes her beautiful calm expression the star of the show.
>>57198734
I keep my Waifus together. From trainer galleries to the Piplup Dawn card from cosmic eclipse.

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>>57195912
I'm tired of seeing this enough to bite the bait, but surely people have noticed this is entirely because the English translations just adds, like, two more lines of text versus the Japanese one, right? No one actually thinks this was on purpose, right?

How do you guys keep yourselves from recklessly spending money on cards?
t.spent 120 euros yesterday

>>57199664
By being fucking poor

>>57199664
I tell to myself that if I wait the market will surely crash
t. spent 230€ yesterday

how dumb is it to buy random japanese boosters when i just want to get nice art rares?
i bought two boosters and got the jasmine illustration rare so my mind tells me its easay and i should by more packs

>>57199805
buy a box for the guaranteed hits

>>57199805
If you really like opening packs, sure. But you can easily get a full AR for specific sets with just $20 depending on how big it is.

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What grade do you guys think this would get?

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>>57199927

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>>57199927
>>57199929
>thinking about grading

grading is such an obvious grift

>>57199951
That was one of my concerns, there is a grading company here in Croatia though maybe I could get it graded while being there so I don’t get fucked by shipping?

>>57199929
>that back
6 at most

>>57199969
Still worth even being a 5 as far as I know?

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Niggers? On my ETB?

FUCK INVESTORKEKS

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Pack art

>>57199992
>man on the etb
hoping this will fend people off a little more rather than kantoooo on the box
how likely is this to drop on pc today?

>>57199992
WAIFUFAGS BTFO

GOGOGO

https://www.pokemoncenter.com/product/100-10356

Limit is two per person, managed to get one.

>>57200183
thanks for the heads-up!

>>57200183
aaaaaaaaaand the site has crashed
thanks scalpers

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>>57200183
Thanks anon, preordered mine

Booster Box comes with the N's reshiram card, already placed my ETB order but trying to get one so I don't have to deal with this later

>>57200281
The promo card is tempting and if this set is like any other, a box should go for over 200 eventually. Just wish all of the promos didn't have that fag on it.

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>set only contains 4 SIRs and 2 golds

what the best sets to invest on

>>57200183
bruh it keeps timing out

>>57200346
I'll take your N promo, anon.

all sold out

>>57200281
>NA panders to faggot

Heh

>>57200183
>jp
>just buy the booster box at the minimum pack price

>usa
>forced to buy dice, thin tins, coins, sleeve, special set, jumbo cards etc to get their cards

Always a cuck. Have fun getting exploited buying english set.

Why are boosters in this game such garbage, it's like 5% cards people actually want and 95% filler. You can't even use the 95% for anything, unlike other games where you'll at least want playsets of stuff, and the worthwhile stuff makes up 50% of the booster.

>>57200406
Yeah it's cancer. I miss when sets were around 100 cards.

why don't these retards add server capacity

are japanese cards equivalent value to american ones?

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>>57199992
>N ETB
For fuck sake, i wanted waifu stuff, skip. But at least it's not that bitch of Hops, fucking annoying "persona 3/4/5 annoying first male friend" archetype which Japan loves (to bully).

>>57200183
All gone :( Oh well.

I hate this """""hobby""""" nothing makes me feel so cucked than this shit

BRUH wtf do they mean by out of stock it's fucking pre-orders just fucking print what people order stop with this artificial scarcity BS I fucking hate these dirty N

>>57200420
>>57200406
Is there a reason why we can't go back? TPCi have shown willingness to go back on things, like going from GX and Vs to half-arts again in EXs. And surely having these massive sets just makes things more difficult for them? I think most of us would welcome 100~ card sets again. We need less fucking secret rares too, I'm sick of having more secrets than regular cards in special sets now.

>>57200624
It's not even like they profit from artificial scarcity, unless it makes buyers even more rabid every time they become available again.
The only logical case would be if they're limiting them so they have production time but they'd have to be printing hundreds of millions for that to be an issue.

Who here investorCHAD?

Just got some of the Booster Bundles at Gamestop.

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>>57200661

>>57200714
im very sorry to hear that

>>57200183
Uhh I kept spam refreshing and it let me checkout so I just ordered 2 pc etbs? I feel like this is a website error because now it says sold out and I havent got an email yet but maybe they honor my order inshallah

>>57200264
at this point my £90 jp box preorder on japan2uk seems like a fucking gimme

>wake up
>pokemon center ETB sold out
:')

>>57200730
Why? I only bought three.

>>57200761
i didnt even know it went live

>>57200360
Lucky you, you came in at the perfect time to invest. This is a good deal:
>>57200661

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>>57200661
>still buying sealed

>>57200281
>not the lillie card
I sleep

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>>57200661
lol, lmao even
>>57200442
Was able to get the ETBs super easily. Decided to go back and get a booster box as well and the site crashed forever and once it came back up it was sold out. Cool, cool. You win some, and you lose some, all within literal minutes.

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>whatnot streamer opens prismatic packs two weeks earlier than release
>his pull rates are absolute, complete ass
>people report his account because these pull rates can't be real, he must have resealed the packs
>account gets unbanned after less than a day
>he didn't reseal the packs
>the pull rates are actually just that ass

Prismatic etb pre-orders lasted like a whole day wtf man

>>57199992
Unova gawds, we fucking won.

>>57200902
manifactured hype vs actual hype
rocket will last like, 3 seconds

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>still buying sealed

So is the PC ETB better than the booster box?

>>57200927
pc booster comes with reshiram promo etb comes with zoroa promo

>prismatic isn't even out
>investorcucks have already dropped it
they really are the cryptobros of this hobby

Throw invooster cucks into a wood chipper.

>>57200955
The fact that their greasy brown little hands are going to be all over my Lillie cards sickens me.

>>57200741
Japanese cards are nicer anyway

The fact that even the single packs are sold out lmao

The worst part about this is that not even japanese will be cheap because lillie is in the set

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>Multiple investor niggers passionately arguing that this isn't a bubble in this very thread
I hope you stupid faggots lose all your money

What if I could just like enjoy the PTCG without having to deal with stock availability for items that aren't even out yet? I would like that very much.

>>57200983
This is the new normal, has been since 2016 dumbass.

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>>57200989
*camps all night outside of your lgs to buy their whole stock*

I didn’t realize how good things were back in the XY era. It hurts to know that when the Legends ZA extension will release I might be unable to get a single pack.

>>57200989
You can buy fakes on Alibaba for like nothing.

>>57200995
why do all these fuckers look the same

>>57201007
NPCs do be like that

Ordered 3 cases of TPC ETBs kek

THank fuck for bots

>>57200183
How tf is it gone already

>>57200902
New Lillie card

I'm going to...I'm gonna INVOOOOOOOOOST

>>57200955
praying to Allah that their parents/kids get cancer

>>57200894
thats why i just buy singles

>being an invetecuck
>not being a sealed collector chad

>>57201007
physiognomy is real

Nice try goyim, but I shan't preorder without seeing the full set

>>57201034
Sealed collecting is the same as investing tbf. It's denial to say otherwise. What's there to enjoy about a sealed box? Most are waiting to be resold in 20+ years time for PROOOOFIT.

Nobody who collects sealed, collects sealed because they like the cards

>>57200915
post the account name, i want to know what faggot listed it that high

The pokemon center ETB is a blue chip. Its way cheaper than the booster box but it has a higher moon % because of the limited quantity making the stamped promo inside extremely rare.

>>57201039
>Nobody who collects sealed, collects sealed because they like the cards
True. I originally wanted a sealed pack of each from BRS and FST, since I started with those sets, but I ended up opening all my packs eventually kek

>>57200741
They must be out of their fucking mind if they think I'll pay that much. Around £40 or fuck off.

>>57198346
>Eventually a large portion of the people that are in on the action will move on.
When the normal consumer gets burned throughout the rest of this year with the rocket and journey sets, we'll definitely see a massive drop in interest since at that point the only people left buying this shit is other scalpers and youtubers

I had them in my cart and my payment info clicked buy and the fucking shit crashed. I feel so fucking cucked this is the worst.

>>57201062
>and the fucking shit crashed.
too many bots bloated the site

>>57201062
>not having bots
kek

>>57201060
IMO 151 will be the last straw. If millenormies can't get their hands on 10 slices of nostalgia cardboard for less than $10 they will say fuck it.

>>57201039
The Japanese boxes make a cool display piece imo. The English ones looks like trash in comparison. Of course this excuse falls flat for people that buy cases of this shit and shove it in a closet for years.

>>57201039
how much is this shit going to be worth really

its not going to be base set levels valuable so whats the point just buy nvda or bitcoin or something

>>57201079
Doesn't matter. I can already sell for 4x MSRP. It's only going to go up

I'm more pissed off at the Pokemon center not sending out Emails that they were going to be listing this shit today

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https://www.pokemoncenter.com/product/100-10356


THEY'RE BACK IN STOCK GOOGOGOGOG

>>57201107
>https://www.pokemoncenter.com/product/100-10356
Liar

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>>57201110
Too slow

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OMG

I-IS THAT A.... HECKING MOONBREON?!?!??! I'M GONNA MOOOOOOOOOON

>>57201116
>!700 for the worst eevolution
Kek

>>57201120
Uh Jolteon's not worth that much?

>>57201116
>cha ching!
KEK

>>57201132
>Jolteon and Not Flareon being the worst
GTFO

>>57201212
The worst is objectively sylveon sweaty

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>the one time I don't check this general before work
Like someone else said, what is the point of being subscribed to Pokemon Center emails if they don't even inform you of the new set release date, let alone preorders?

>>57201246
its so frustrating I literally had it at checkout at 9:10am but it broke not even 20 minutes I'm still seething

wasn't even trying to get the Nshit new set preorder (my LGS hooks me up anyway), just wanted to get into my account and look at another orders status and refreshed a zillion times and it says I'm blocked. how long does the block last?

>>57201246
Don't fall for it anon, this is a main set and an extremely popular one at that, it will be printed for literal years

>>57201331
>printed for years
kek

>>57201039
I will say I think some people have convinced themselves that they like the look of the product boxes on display. But I also think they forced themselves to like the aesthetic based entirely on the perceived value.

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mail the only umbreon I can afford

>>57200910
They're both manufactured. What happened today is the result of people not wanting to miss the next Surging Sparks or Prismatic Evolutions.

>>57201262
try from another browser or connection, I've had the block for many days before

>>57201262
incognito

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Oh, Pokebeach is saying all sealed booster boxes will have the Reshiram promo. Makes me not feel bad that I missed out on them this morning.

>>57200183
>click on the link
>you have been blocked
Thanks Japan

>>57201425
not stamped though

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>>57201430
None of them are

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>>57201430
This is the one time I'll say it's better without, takes away from the art

I hate investors so much bros. I just want to pull cards with cool art.

>Prismatic ETBs at 120€ on cardmarket
Lord

>>57201359
>three sets in a row are getting scalped because they're "the next big thing", two of them not even being out yet
not a bubble btw

>pre-ordered a Journey Together ETB from Pokemon Center
>used 190 in store credit to buy packs of Crown Zenith, 151, and Surging Sparks for pretty illustrations
>pulled the 151 Charmander, Machoke, Caterpie, and Omanyte

Life is good, bros. I just like pretty pictures.

bros I just want to update my payment details for the prismatic ETB but bots keep shutting the site down...

>>57201425
>>57201430
The ETB gets a different promo, that being N's Zorua, which they haven't shown yet but is mentioned in the product description on the Pokemon Center.

*wears xray goggles to the store*

>>57201565
*sees you looking at 11-year-old girls*

>>57201565
>anon can't get over his penis addiction

>>57201597
Hope he burns alive desu

>>57201488
It isn't a bubble because I'm heavily invested in it OK?

Will I ever be able to buy something at MSRP again

>>57201642
choose
>>57201636

>>57201356
That Sylveon clears. Good thing you didn't get the awful vmax versions.

>>57201356
Literally more visually appealing art than either Moonbreon imo

>>57201402
that worked, thank you friend.

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>>57201087

Is there a conceivable/theoretical way to permanently block bots from buying products on online stores? Is it a cost factor? Or are sites just too lazy to implement better security features to prevent scalping?

>>57201967
Best way anyone has attempted is Ticketmaster's system of having a queue system locked to your IP address, or by just having a manual-run lottery system like some conventions and festivals do.

So the people who cleared out PC are flippers and scalpers right? Not people who open packs?

>>57202027
No one who opens would buy packs for like 2000 bucks

>>57202027
Yes. Pokemon fans didn't get the lion share of the new run. It's covid tier scalping cancer again.

>>57201984
>having a queue system locked to your IP address
this unironically worked great for NFTs

>>57202027
This is a main set. Just wait until the investor retards move on to rocket preorders and you will get your box.
Unless you wanted a pokemon center etb specifically, in that case lol

>>57201967
Limit to 2 boxes per same physical address. SURELY scalpers don't have 200 locations available to ship pokemon cards, right?

bots are a cope

you are just slow/unlucky

I was able to grab

>still buying sealed

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>When the set was revealed at World's, his art rare is the first and only one shown.
>ETB revealed and it's just him plastered all over the box
>The super duper limited promo inside is yet another N card.
>The front of the booster is only N, the other Trainers are relegated to sides and back.
Remind me again why they say Lillie is the shill character?

Never open, only buy singles

>ZA releasing soon
>Trainer's pokemon feature N
>people still expect an S&M character to take the spotlight

prismatic evolutions makes sense because eeveelutions are the favorite pokemon of like one third of the hobby but how many people are actually gay and or pedophilic enough to prop up the price of this set that much above MSRP? I'm sorry I call bullshit. I'll buy later and I gauruntee I'll get it under MSRP.
t. N enjoyer and riri simp.

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>>57202204
People are buying on the -expectation- that the set is big because of trainer pokemon coming back not because they've all suddenly turned into N simps (please ignore and forget about swsh trainer galleries being a thing until last year they even had a N's zekrom that is like 5$ that nobody cared about, this is totally different ok). For me, I'm not buying SHIT until I see the full set.

>>57202143
grab THIS *unzips dick*

>>57202178
She still is, but I bet they're giving N the spotlight and the two Gen V focused sets coming out in Japan this summer is because they're gearing up to release a butchered BW demake some time soon, probably gonna be revealed next month on Pokemon Day

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How much will the new Iono SIR be? It's worse than her padlean evolved SIR

If the new waifu cards aren't at least a little bit sexy I ain't buyin'

>>57202233
I'm aware of this, nice digits, they're all gonna actually be bagholders though because like I said. Not enough people in this hobby are gay and or pedophilic enough for the market to actually decide to pay twice or more than MSRP for this set. Trainer cards were the biggest bubble of all of pokemon previously. For fucks sake, exba lillie dropped to 10K a few weeks ago. 80% drop from ATH. Trainer Galleries are mostly 3 dollar cards, and waifu craze died entirely.

Unironically, if you are a trainer collector do not buy this set above MSRP. There are not that many of us, it is 100% possible to force the prices down in this scenario, unlike in the eevee scenario that's just fucked. Ririchads hold the fucking line. Nfags, you too.

I'm just hoping we see Clair in the set

>>57202204
>doesn't believe a large part of pokemon whales aren't pedos
>Lillie and Marnie exist
Anon...

>>57202238
If she isn't in the spotlight she is by definition not skilled.
>>57202259
Naw dawg, you're acting like $10k is nothing. I'll spend a few hundred to get my Riri cards. If it's a bursting bubble so be it, at least I'll have them instead of waiting and potentially being super mega fucked. I'm not making that mistake again.

>>57202027
It's both, but the scalpers/investors are the ones driving it. The normal collectors would probably ordinarily be a bit more lax, but they can't afford to hesitate now. I assume it's a similar reason why even Stellar Crown is getting fucking hard to find. People who just want to open packs are squeezed out of Surging Sparks and Prismatic, so they've got to buy up other sets just to engage with their hobby.

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It is actually insane that investors are successfully flipping 2 different sets THAT AREN'T EVEN OUT YET both at triple msrp, on the promise that both sets are going to be "the biggest thing ever". This is like watching crypto scams in real time.

I saw an ursaluna ex box at Wal Mart. Should I go back and buy it?

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>>57202312
It's straight up people treating Pokemon as crypto. To them it's nothing more than a speculative asset, and they're confident that it will just keep going up. Fucking faggots are hyped about a set that they don't even plan on opening. And there's no downside to ruining the market for them since they're not sentimentally invested in the hobby. If they can get it, great; money! But if they can't, oh well! It's not like they actually cared about that set! Better luck on the next set!

And the root cause of all of it is the fact that the entire market revolves around a single website. Everyone uses tcgplayer. Every store cites tcgplayer for prices. The market of singles determines the desirability of a set, so all they have to do is manipulate that one single website.

>>57202329
it has 2 surging sparks 1 stellar crown 1 sv base iirc

>>57202249
>not liking miku artist iono or hanabushi iono
fag

>>57202334
All their shit is gonna be worthless in 10 years when guys don't give a fuck about pokemon because it was some millennial søy scam from their childhood.

>>57202233
>2.4k on a booster box that's not even out yet
I blame fags like Pokerev for this

>>57202362
Honestly the best way to ensure Pokemon as an investment is to make it enjoyable for children now. It's genuinely popular with kids again. If they have positive memories of Pokemon cards now, they'll eventually be nostalgic adults looking to participate in the market.

>>57202306
10K is an 80% drop from ATH. That is significant crash. The card is very exclusive though. It actually has a very small population, remember how it was distributed and then the amount to be distributed was cut in half because of covid?

>>57202334
>It's straight up people treating Pokemon as crypto
Think about this way, all the invooster fags already got priced out of Bitcoin, they were too late on any real profit from sports cards and Sneaker fag collectors probably break even on all transaction. Pokemon is the easiest thing for a group that has burnable capital to pump up because they can inflate it by buying up all the limited stock before release and then simply keep buying it back and forth from one another artificially increasing the price and demand.

>>57202373
they do, because 80% of pokemon product is ancillary product toxic to investors (mix of random packs, takes up way too much space, has extras that adults think are worthless but kids have fun with)

>>57202178
N needs the extra push. Lillie doesnt.

lol

whats the difference between trainer gallery from swsh and this other than this is during a bubble and that was not

>>57202422
Prismatic shitvolutions set the playing field for the next two or three sets

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My girl still won't have a card, will she?

>>57202455
The only card she needs is my credit card when I pay for her services as she sucks my dick

>>57202380
We'll see how long this lasts. If investor fags keep slurping up the cards at Walmart and Target kids won't even get shitty cards. Most parents don't go on tcgplayer and buy their kids singles. They might look at packs or boxes online and see they're marked up 300%+ and say fuck it. One of two things will happen. TPC will flood the market with more reprints because the demand is there or we'll have a real crash and the people that lost their ass will stop scalping and move on to something else.

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>miss PC pre-orders by like 5 minutes
>go for lunch
>miss LGS 1 pre-orders
>take a shit/shower
>miss LGS 2 pre-orders

>>57202470
Dawniggers BTFO

>>57202461
Please anon. Thats my wife.

>>57202027
I bought one to open, and one to stay sealed

>>57200991
Not really, even back in 2016-2017 actual fans could buy older stuff, let alone current XY/SM stuff, for pennies. I remember my local LCS here doing 6 of any pack including Evolutions for £20 up to even 2018, this is all Logan Paul and COVID's fault. The problem is these investor shitstains keep going on about a market for Pokemon now, yes there were valuable cards but we didn't live in some retarded clown world where a new ETB was 500 dollars 2 months before release.
I am genuinely asking, what will it take to shake these fucktards off of the Pokemon card collecting hobby? I want to pull cards I like in peace and not have to worry about basedfaced Pokerevs and other Pokevesting cumguzzlers FUCK

>>57202455
Sorry, Anon, fan favorites like random SV wigger need support priority. Hopefully the continue the Owner's Pokemon gimmick and she gets something in the Unova set.

>>57201072
>The Japanese boxes make a cool display piece imo
Then open them and keep the boxes on display? What the fuck

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>>57202470
Apparently gamestops are still taking pre-orders. Im about to call my local Gamestop and find out.
Unsure how hyped I am for this set honestly. I really like the Lycanroc, and N's Reshiram, but otherwise I'm rather lukewarm on it. Meowth is nice too I suppose.
Either gonna try and grab a box for myself or to flip and call it a day and wait for team rocket or black and white. Hopefully its easier to get in on B&W because thats my favorite Gen after Gen 2.
>>57202362
Yeah they said that 20 years ago too.
>>57202515
It seems like it comes and goes in waves. I got back into it myself about a year ago mostly just cause I stumbled on my old collection. I wasn't living near my parents when the first covid explosion happened, so the nostalgia didn't "hit me" the same as a lot of others. But from my limited time back in the hobby, it seems like it comes and goes. Big in early covid thanks to youtubers and being stuck at home. Big again now thanks to the new TCGP mobile game reigniting people's interest in card collecting and pokemon. Maybe it'll die again soon. Who can say. I don't think it'll ever quite die down fully again, not for a long time anyway, but what do I know.

>>57202515
Yeah, I rememebr even back in like 2013/14, you could buy packs of base set for like £15-20 because nobody wanted anything

It's gone full retard in the last 6 years

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>>57202520
>SV wigger
Who?
I do think its weird they don't have a wider variety of trainer's in the set.
They have what a Marnie's Grimsnarl, Hop, N, and Iono? And then maybe a Lillie's Clefairy and thats it right?
>Hopefully the continue the Owner's Pokemon gimmick and she gets something in the Unova set
I don't think they will, but maybe. Or just a full art trainer card or something.
And hopefully not whatever the new probably worse design will be for the B&W remakes.

>>57202442
Twilight Masquerade prepped it, with Greninja proving that the market was willing to accept $200+ card pumps. Surging Sparks was the one that set the playing field and Prismatic far amplified it.

>>57202560
I think he means >>57196189

>>57202515
Even the covid era wasn't THIS bad. Evolving Skies is commonly seen as the height of the modern era, and I had no problem getting my fill of that. Granted, Walmart and target limiting the amount customers were allowed to buy might have helped. Wish they'd bring that back.

>>57202455
Supposedly we're getting a Unova 151 set down the line. Wouldn't be surprised if we see her there. And scalpers might actually fuck off for the "ice cream garbage" generation set.

Why do brokies itt hate when short term investors make money? Are these threads filled with commie zoomzooms?

>too rural for an LGS
>grocery store that's 5 minutes away has an official pokemon etb vending machine
>vending machine is always out of stock of everying
>always miss the online pre-orders now because I'm a wagie

Pain

>>57202584
I'm not broke, I have plenty of disposable income. I'm fine with small market capitalism too. I just hate investors/scalpers that actively that get between me and opening packs.

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>>57202579
Ohh.
>>57202580
>Supposedly we're getting a Unova 151 set down the line
Please don't get me too excited.
>And scalpers might actually fuck off for the "ice cream garbage" generation set
Don't count on that honestly.
>"ice cream garbage" generation set.
This used to be me.
Then I realized how great Gen 5 actually was and its become a favorite of mine. Also gave me my favorite Ghost type pokemon, that also is lacking in cards.
I still hate Trubbish/Garbodor though.

>>57202584
Some people that actually like Pokemon can't get pokemon cards because you faggots are playing with them like they're shitcoins.

>>57202600
>>57202606
Just buy singles then retards. Only reason scalpers exist is because tpci keeps shit at an artificially low price. Want scalpers gone? Demand tpci raise the price.

>>57202624
Alright, you made it too obvious now

>>57202624
PC already sold out of all journey together pre-orders. Even the singles. I actively hope your investment portfolio crashes and you become financially destitute.

>>57202602
>picrel
love this card, first illustration I pulled out of LO. Typically japanese quality is king but I think the holo looks just as nice here.

>>57202631
Must be nice being economically illiterate.
>>57202632
>pre ordering singles
Lol, lmao even.

>>57202515
>including Evolutions
That shit shelf warmed for the longest time and was on discount constantly, bought quite a few loose pack of that set (from a reputable store of course) and the best thing I got from it was a regular Venusaur EX. Fuck XY Evolutions, shit fucking set that only gives you a fucking Electrode at best 99% of the time.

New

>>57202705
>>57202705

>>57202624
>I want thing but brown people keep scalping it
>hmmm. Have you considered buying different thing? I am very smart

>>57202710
>ScAlPeR SCALPER scalper.. SCALEPERRRRRRR
just buy it lil bro, maybe drop him a tip too. unless ur saying ur broke?

>>57202515
>I am genuinely asking, what will it take to shake these fucktards off of the Pokemon card collecting hobby?
The Economy actually crashing

>>57202560
Did Lillie even have a clefairy in game?

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>>57202584
I hope you get robbed or murdered

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>>57202785
I don't remember.
I just saw the card is all.

>>57202455
Hilda fags don't deserve shit

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>>57202935
Why? What did we do?

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>been to a shit ton of walmarts/targets lately
>many of them had their boxes ripped out of packs leaving only the promos
>i take the promos since no point in leaving it there
am i stealing or what? I don't think I'm doing anything wrong since they'll damage it anyways. I've gotten 3 charizard promos from the charizard ex premium collection boxes just from doing that. These niggers should at least take the promo card like cmon

>>57203258
Yes but who cares? Walmart would just throw them away. Maybe they'd let an employee take them but I doubt Walmart employees care about pokemon. I doubt they care about anything other than drugs and tv.

>>57203258
Eh I've seen the same thing at Walmart and did the exact same thing.

>>57202455
Gen 5 remakes in Gen 10 will finally give us Hilda cards. Stay strong Hildabro.

>>57203316
>let an employee take them
Against policy