DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread: >>12183737Doom/Quake/Duke/Heretic/Hexen/Unreal/Sam/Half-Life/etcGameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source PortsAll other 90s FPS welcome~ Let's post like gentlemen ~FAQ/GENERAL GUIDEhttps://rentry.org/vrbinSO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Deus Ex)https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXzSame thing, in video format:https://youtu.be/ietb4JwaaXAhttps://youtu.be/DhOjleMqwdQhttps://youtu.be/CGj4gXyCzg0== GAMES/RESOURCES ==DOOM Quickstart (IWADs etc): https://mediafire.com/file/wuniyrhsjjgq4y8QUAKE Trilogy FAQ: https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhUPortaDOOM:https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releasesHALF-LIFE (GoldSrc) Anthology:https://mega.nz/file/GRUCGbAY#RhOiqxnf7UPOiXcJNbRh-prKIEVRhjJaEpAkt34lyZg4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games:https://mega.nz/#F!3t8nzSIS!947kyMN6Z80f8HS7q2XlqAAssorted /vr/ shooters, mods, etc:https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Qhttps://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUAMIDI COLLECTIONShttps://files.catbox.moe/2hul76.ziphttps://mega.nz/file/dWQ3SThI#qYcpa4eGQj6ElyRZgjGqszR59dh4Fq9D3qXYee54kZQhttps://archive.org/details/archiveteam-geocities-midi-collection-2009https://archive.org/details/midiru-archive-2022-02-25.7z== INFO/LINKS ==OFFICIAL DOOM WIKIhttps://doomwiki.org/WHERE TO FIND WADSVanilla/Boom: https://doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/ZDoom: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19/idgames: https://doomworld.com/idgames/MODDING RESOURCEShttps://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37https://realm667.com/== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==THREAD ARCHIVEShttps://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/"doom thread"/type/op/OUR WADS/MODShttps://rentry.org/vrdepotMAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLYhttps://pastebin.com/8mDnrsrBIMAGE/WAD DATABASEhttps://vrdoom.booru.org/https://clovr.xyz/wadsup/MULTIPLAYER SERVERSUS West: https://clovr.xyz/CA/US Midwest: https://macgu.fun/
=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===Duke It Out in /vr/Game : DN3D | Deadline : Jan 1st 2026Tile/Con pack: https://files.catbox.moe/thm4q7.zipRules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/11835634=== CURRENT RELEASES ===SUB MORTEM : A Dead Simple Halloween ProjectGame : Doom 2 | MBF21RC1: https://files.catbox.moe/gbezed.zipDeep /vr/ied PotatoGame : Doom 2 | MBF21RC1: https://files.catbox.moe/3fml1f.zipNow on iDGames!https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=21835=== NEWS ===[11-18] Burger Bill/Becky has passed away.https://bsky.app/profile/hmcd.bsky.social/post/3m5u7i37gns2u[11-16] DBP77: The Economy of the Dead is out now!https://doomer.boards.net/thread/4191[11-16] SLADE v3.2.9 releasedhttps://slade.mancubus.net/[11-15] Nova IV update, "Hang on to each other" map finally playablehttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/152816-rc3-big-update-new-maps-nova-iv-mbf21-megawad-by-newer-mappers/[11-14] Odamex 11.2.0 releasedhttps://odamex.net/[11-14] TNT 2: Devilution final releasehttps://www.doomworld.com/vb/thread/104882[11-14] Odamex update: made the linedef in front of the bars that lock the player(s) in the exit lower them if pressed on.https://files.catbox.moe/qminra.zip[11-14] Kiss Psycho Circus, repack for modern OSes.https://archive.org/details/kiss-psycho-circus-repack_202511[11-12] Pvt Stone update: more weapons, features & cvars.https://skelegant.itch.io/pvt-stone/devlog/1111163/update-to-v13-maximum-carnage[11-10] OldUnreal releases final version of patch v469e for Unreal Tournament 1999https://github.com/OldUnreal/UnrealTournamentPatches/releases/tag/v469e[11-07] UZDoom 4.14.3 RC1 releasedhttps://github.com/UZDoom/UZDoom/releases/tag/4.14.3-rc1=== PREVIOUS ===https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST (ideally with the [MM-DD] date bracket)
Doom is a pretty cool game.
Cacochan is favorite
Man I like Doom 1 but Episode 3 is kinda eh
>>12190212They ran out of steam by that point.Doesn't help that there's no SSG to fill in the gap between shotgun and rocket launcher.Doom 2 is the perfected doom formula.
>>12190213Perfected in terms of weapon and enemy roster, not so much with the levels. That's where Plutonia comes in.
>>12190213Too bad Doom 2's own main levels are worse.
>>12190212>Episode 3 is kinda ehit was called FINAL DOOM for good reason.
i loved the first game but this one feels weird at first glance. not sure i like the changes.
>>12190223Doom 2's maps are more consistent than Doom 1.Doom 1's first episode is good but it drops the ball hard after that. Doom 2 is mostly consistently average to good maps wish some stinkers.
>>12190207
>>12190223Doom 2 you could tell id was starting to come apart at the seams.
>>12190237What happens if you answer 'yes'?What happens if you answer 'no'?
Nobody told me how shiddy Legacy of Rust is.
>>12190250Some of us did bro, its ass
>>12190250>nobody told me>its only mentioned once a thread, minimum
>>12190237what happens if you flip both?
>>12190237caco caco burrito burritoI want caco flavored kisses honey
>>12190223IMO they're roughly about equal, Doom 2 just has a few weak levels.>>12190237Hell yes I love Caco!>>12190267I haven't thought of that in years. Anyone drawn Jennifer Lopez on Doomguy's hand yet?
>>12190250I've liked what I've played but it was only two levels. Maybe that speaks for itself, or I just wasn't in a "vanilla-ish Doom" mood when I tried it.
>>12190194Hey, still waiting for that last map update for Into King Boner's Manor Of Teleporting Goblin-y Spooks!
>>12190212>>12190213>barons, cacos and pinkies out of the ass>not enough rockets and cellsThe classic blunder as old as starting a war in Asia.
SECTOR PUSSYWAGON
>>12190194[11-20] Beta 3 of Malice Refined for Quake has been releasedhttps://www.moddb.com/mods/malice-refined/news/beta-3-release-overview
>>12190310always lmao at this pic
>>12190319Hell yea
>>12190250It's been discussed to death, at best it's ok, but nothing all that special compared to community stuff.
>>12190319>>12190373Groovy as fuck.I wonder if there's a NOLF gameplay wad out there somewhere.
>>12190310>"vanilla-ish Doom"It has more in common with KDiZD than say Jan Van der Veken wads, Sigil or DTWiDs
>>12190334 (ashes anon)>spoilerIt's much worse, something paranormal was fucking the world so hard the only solution they found was to drop the population numbers to lessen it's effect. All the mutants and monsters you fight are not made out of nuclear fallout radiation, some of them were showing up back when world was normal.Ashes comes with small manual that drops some more hints on that, it looks like something akin to The Mist or Half Life 1 Resonance Cascade happened
>>12190403>I wonder if there's a NOLF gameplay wad out there somewhere.There was an anon posting progress about his mod starring a short blackhaired "Agent Honeydew-esque" character. Sadly don't have any pics of it on this computer so if someone else could help out, that would be solid.
Ah didn't see the old dead was tying up>>12190194Updated King Boner for Sub Mortem, if there's still fix submissions for RC2https://files.catbox.moe/10uaxd.wad
I feel like I'm vaguely remembering Term said Corzo liked funk or disco or something so HND would actually be great for this wad, too.
>think i had a test map in a separate wad>it's fucking goneGuess I'm stealing that from drla.
Doom is a video game that I enjoy playing.
>>12190193>Watch where you point that thing
>>12190237I HECKIN LOVE CACO
>>12190441>Quickie texture fixTook you long enough. Let's hope our grand lich leader hasn't turned back to sleep into his comfy grave.
>>12190475I started pissing blood when I got off work and back home yesterday, which unfortunately is where I keep the energy to edit 4 lindefs
>>12190460But does Caco love you?
>>12190492then you should stop folding razors and sticking them down your urethra
>>12190492Sounds like a big hurt. Yeah, I probably wouldn't think of Doom for a big while if I were you. Pissing stones or what, is the next thing to amputating limbs among the uncomfortable.
>>12190503The fuck else is he supposed to do on a Thursday morning?
>>12190492uhhh go to the fucking hospital anon. pissing blood is not a good sign, stones or not.
So we've got Hdest, Deathstrider, what other "let's make doom more simmy and autistic" mods are there? That R6 weapons/enemies mod? LiTDOOM? Actually what's up with LiTDOOM? It looked interesting and I wanted to give it a shot but the weapon sprites looking like baked-down 3d models turned me off.
>>12190546Shut Up And Bleed might be cool. Not sure if it's as crazy as HD or DS, haven't played similar mods beyond those two.
>>12184256>>12186000Which faction do I belong to if I play with lzdoom instead?
Looking for a quake world duel on aerowalk, join zasadzka:27501 (145.239.94.156:27501) if you wanna get in on some action. I'll be out for a smoke hope to see someone join when I'm back.
>>12190581>Shut Up And BleediSpook's version is so fucking good, dude basically made it his mod.
>>12190598The most heinous of all: Poorfags
>>12190613I play on Full HD resolution with advanced vulkan lighting and brightmaps, who are you kidding
>me laughing at your port squabbles, playing on Atari Jaguar
>>12190492>>12190514Once had an inflammated prostate gland. Pissing felt like glass shards coming out of my dick. Not fun.
>>12190248You get ganked and die iirc.[/spoiler[Caco is the best!
>>12190624>playing on Atari JaguarThe port approved of by John Carmack himself.
>>12190631yea he ported it himself iirc. PS1 and GBA ports were derived from it
>>12190605Last call before this eurofag goes to bed.
>>12190635>GBA ports were derived from itYeah there was also a GBA port of Doom 1 that was scratch built (take notes Nightdive) but he supposedly swooped in near the end of development for it and told them to start over with the Jaguar source.
>>12190410Well it explains all the weird posters and billboards about a virus. I thought they were out of place considering the end of the world was caused by nukes.
>>12190648based
Reposting for extra relevancy. This here is "so you want to play some" album reupload by UK anon. Reason is that imgur is blocked across his country and he'd very much like it for the alternative to be present. Alas...https://archive.org/details/001-hx-8-vp-w-6We had OP revamp some few years ago, which was supposed to bring some brevity and lower the letter-count, yet since then a couple of new domains has appeared with a extra few links there and here... and it's up to the 2000 post limit once again. So there's no way except for deciding collectively: if a little something needs to be gutted, some improvisation is due, or whether it's actually worth all the hassle. Personally I'm against of supplanting the old imgur link, as UK anon has stated in solidarity:>>12184610>Non-UK posters can still access imgur so the original link should still be posted.
>>12190663Yeah, I'm in the UK and I'm absolutely for leaving things the way they are with the imgur links. Nobody else should be inconvenienced by our shitty government.
>>12190663>Personally I'm against of supplanting the old imgur link, as UK anon has stated in solidarity:>>Non-UK posters can still access imgur so the original link should still be posted.Yeup, I still stand by that.Full disclosure, however...I'm not in the UK. I just saw how it was banned, how it looked on certain sites like picrel, and went "well that fucking sucks ass for them". So if anyone tries the infograph and is like "I can't see shit", we got you.
>>12190669>>12190663>>12190665You would never see a kindness such as this done for any Armenian members of the community. Just remember that.
>>12190663>https://archive.org/details/001-hx-8-vp-w-6It's the old version though. At least include both v9 and v8
>>12190707I got them too if needed. I don't know anything about them but they seem cool.>>12190727>At least include both v9 and v8Click the "right" arrow.
>>12190735>Welcome. Welcome to Deimos. You have chosen, or been chosen, to relocate to one of our finest colonies. I thought so much of Deimos that I elected to establish UAC Administration here, in the Tower of Babel so thoughtfully provided by Our Benefactors. I have been proud to call Deimos my home. And so, whether you are here to stay, or passing through on your way to parts unknown, welcome to Deimos. It's safer here.
any other wads like the original scythe out there??? any good recs ??
>>12190734>Click the "right" arrow.based and consideration pilled
>>12190817Machete
>>12190669What's the purpose of using fucking imgur if doomworld can host pictures by itself?
>>12190328N I C E
>>12190629Looks more like he's trying to gouge the Caco's eye out.
>>12190817Demonfear was a huge inspiration towards Scythe. Early levels are a bit rough, but it gets better as it goes along. Requiem's m20, m25, and m26 were also originally designed for Demonfear before being donated over, so they're worth a look as well.
>>12190825I felt it best to edit the image: It originally has a huge black box at the bottom. Maybe he was getting pissed at the constant callouts of the imgur logo blocking the "now play some fucking doom" text.>also just now noticed those three deleted postsThat's a big think.>>12190853No calmface for cute caco.
If you are not playing DOS Doom you are a poser.
I love Quake.
>>12190227I didn't know there was a sequel until like 5 years ago. No idea how it slipped by.
>>12190869yeah I am fuckin watch me
>>12190880I only see her as a friend I occasionally hang out with.
>Quake 2 received a new 30mb update>is just to make it work on steamdeck and the shitty xbox rog>same goes to Q1I am tired chief
>>12190227Where is her other hand...?
>>12190859>DemonfearI found it in doomkid's collection once and liked the first level but then forgot how it's called>>12190869thanks for the reminder
>>12190862>>also just now noticed those three deleted posts>That's a big think.what did I miss?
>>12190895I got my hopes up reading this post, forgot about it, saw the Steam update and got excited/let down again.>>12190929>what did I miss?>>12190295 >>12190289 >>12190306Guy is not happy about the early thread made with the original imgur link.
>>12190895What were you expecting?
Is it possible to play Blood on UZDoom?
>>12191093what? no use a blood source port like nblood or notblood or if you want Raze.
>>12190212E3's problem is that it doesnt really do anything new or interesting besides the BFG. E2 was still fresh and exciting because of its bigger monster roster, darker and more atmospheric levels compared to E1's more action packed levels, and mostly original ost with only one repeat.Besides M6 for being sorta a precursor to D2's city level design and M9 doing a fake out with the M1 encore (and its not particularly well executed), E3 just feels more of the same in comparison.
>>12190250I thought it was great but kinda exhausting to play
>>12190193
>>12190250I think the levels on an individual level are fine besides the last couple being stinkers. My real problem is that it feels incoherent as a whole. Some levels mid-E2 straight up forgot that the new monsters even existed, too (Dis Union did later add them in a patch, but still).
I don't think Blood is fun on Well Done or Extra Crispy.
>>12191258I can't go back to a lower difficulty at this point. I've acclimated to the brutality that going lower is too gentle and relaxed.This is not a brag, more like an admission of being marked.
>>12168409is the librequake challenge still going?https://files.catbox.moe/nq6wsm.qwd>4:27one second behind the best I've seen so far. there's still lots of mistakes. at least I might get second place. oh and it's a vast improvement on my previous attempt >>12173834it all comes down to that goddamn puzzle. you can fuck everything else up but if you get the puzzle on the first try then you're almost guaranteed sub-4:30
>>12191273it lasted one thread but nice demo nevertheless
How do I make fonts not blurry in fteqw?
>>12190886sequel is a big word, it only has 24 levels. it kinda looks like ROTT puked its textures on the first game and the gun bobbing looks like Stone is wanking his pecker>>12190901in his hair or on his ass probably
>>12191308>no librequake category on speedrun.comthis needs fixing
Is he still here? The wad_tester dude? Or is he gone?
>>12191093>Is it possible to play Blood on UZDoom?most technically savvy troonport enjoyer
>>12190663Just checked the first iteration of the revamp, and the most notable change since then was the inclusion of midi collections with server part being renamed. Around 150 symbols was free at first.
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/MAP99:_Sunset_Configuration_(Hardfest_2)>Pain elemental 4080 What did Thelokk mean by this?
>>12190895youll never get quake 2 psx because nightdive hates it
>>12191403crashing this source port...with no survivors
>>12191093Are you kidding?>>12191258Not gonna judge you harshly on that, because Blood is a tough game by default. Also, Extra Crispy is intended for multiplayer co-op, so you wouldn't even be expected to play it solo.
>>12190193Video games are retarded.
>>12191458No, you.
fist time poster ITT. dont murder me if this isnt retro but is there a BLOOD remaster coming out on december 4th? i just got the hexen one and i am very pleased with it.
>>12191548>dont murder me if this isnt retro but is there a BLOOD remaster coming out on december 4th?That's the plan. There's currently "Fresh Supply" which is serviceable enough but still has a few things that need patching that will likely remain forever unpatched, so it's best to wait for the new thing.It also sets a strange precedent: Making a "remaster" of a game that they already "remastered" in 2019. I wonder if a Doom 3 makeover is now on the table.
>>12191596It's still Fresh supply, they're just selling a re-released version of it with a few edits and a new name.
>>12191548I'd say it's retro. At least you're not coming in here wanting to talk about some retro inspired shooter made on a modern engine like a jerk like some people do.Welcome to /doom/, this place is pretty cool most of the time.
>>12191604>could have been a free upgrade to current owners while they rake in some console bucksVery “cool”, lame, and evil.
>>12191548>Remaster of a retro gameFunnily enough, we still count it as retro. We've had discussions about the Doom and Quake remasters, after all.
>>12191596>>12191604>>12191606desu i want it on my switch light since it has so many 90s shooters already. i kinda wish theyd make a shadow warrior port for switch too but that wont happen anymore.
>>12191617i gotta say i am pretty happy with most stuff nightdive did. the turok ones are great.
>>12191627that's sad
>>12191630He's right about the Turok remasters though. They're quite good.
>>12191631well turok, forsaken and rott have no competition so ofc
>>12191630such is life
>>12191610Don't forget the "but they get a discount!" excuse.
>>12190194>SUB MORTEMA little while ago I was complaining about how the Gremlin enemies don't have a gib animation, so I made one. Sprites and dehacked/decohack are included in this wad. You should load it after every other pwad or it might not work right. If the SubMortem project lead want's to include this, he should feel free. This is a strictly visual modification, so demos ~should~ remain synced. Also, the layout of the decohack is kinda awkward in order to handle the cumulative behavior of loading multiple dehacked patches, the new animation is defined at the very end of the file. https://files.catbox.moe/nobwxk.zip
>>12191662I think the death sprites need some blood on them, too. They're just way too grey.
>>12191690It's kinda hard to get blood from a stone...
Well damn, that breezed by quick. Did not even register that the last map was the last one.
>>12191698I'm not familiar with the deep Ad Mortem lore, but if they gremlins are made from stone, why do they have normal blood splats when you shoot them with hitscan? In contrast, the skellingtons don't have blood splats when you shoot them.
>>12191405>youll never get quake 2 psx because id_Sponge hates it and follows Willits instructionscorrected
>>12191707Pretty sure they're not supposed to be made from stone.
>>12191710sponge release the quake 4 source code
>>12190969Oh I see. So pointing out the thread was made way too early (against the written rules for making threads) gets deleted, but his actual obvious attempts at stirring shit up are perfectly fine:>>12183746>>12183789>>12184073Anybody still doubting that this faggot is pocketed by a janny?
>>12190969>>12191734Actual fucking insanity. I remember how threads would devolve into hundreds of posts about DURR WTF YOU MADE A THREAD WHEN IT WAS ONLY ON PAGE 7???? (Literally acceptable according to the guide in OP)But this cocksucker can spam threads before the previous thread is on page 6 as well as literally hurl insults for somebody not using the old link he's autistically obsessed with.No fucking wonder people wanted to use the new link just as a form of protest, not even giving a shit about mm or any other wads added - just as a form of "fuck you" to this shitter who's artificially protected from above.
>>12191734>>12191750Fag.
>>12191751He hates being exposed doesn't he? But mark my words: no matter how much actual literal shitposting he does NONE OF HIS POSTS will ever get wiped and he will never be banned.We'll get wiped and banned around him for pointing out his blatant shitposting and trolling.
>>12191756I'm calling you the fag. Fag. Give it a rest.
>>12191757Oh I know exactly what you're doing shitter.No, I will not give it a rest. And even when I'm busy actually having a life (you wouldn't get it), there's clearly enough anons here to call you out on your bullshit. It's over, troll boy. You will always get called out now. I will always report your rule breaking posts and at least one other person will keep documenting all of your bullshit. Eventually the jay-jay who hides you under xer skirt will lose their job just like the last one did.
>>12191734>>12191750>>12191756>>12191763Get fucked, Megaschizo.
btw is somebody still maintaining this link? https://imgur.com/a/who-is-anti-doom-shitter-why-is-he-protected-by-janny-XCUcFaKcause there's a lot of materials lately.we will get this troll BTFOd eventually
Doom is a fun videogame.
>>12191778wtf
>>12191778Here's some material for you.
>>12191784somebody is basically autistic enough to actually have been documenting all of the bullshit we've seen from this guy as well as from the jay-jay/may-mays. it's not up to date but I noticed he does eventually add the main "happenings" of the faggot's spergouts or unlawful bans/thread deletionsthere actually is a chance that last time they got rid of a janny precisely because mods accidentally saw the link detailing and providing evidence for all the bullshit>>12191790>he's posting his own embarrassing samefagging againI will never not find this hilarious
>>12191790What's funny is your "megaf*ggot" doesn't even need to do false flag samefagging because you don't even hide how much of a faggot you are - literally resorting to first grade level insults and actual literal spam.
>>12191792>his own embarrassing samefaggingSo it's just a coincidence that you and your "supporters" went radio silent for a week following that meltdown?
>>12191795There's nothing coincidental about a combination of people having a life and getting b& for calling you out, which you exploited to produce some of the shittest theater seen by man. Literally nobody, not even the haters of megaman, bought this obvious samefagging so you had to actually samefag reactions to your own samefagging as if anybody with >12 IQ could ever believe it. You are hilariously pathetic.
Posting in a pinky male thread.
>>12191662Maybe gibs should be gray too
>the shitter is actually so desperate he's samefagging reactions to his own samefagging which he turned into a collage and then mentioning it in every thread hoping that at least one person thinks it's truepic related is not even my face, it's the walls of my house losing their shit laughing at this retard
>>12191734peter "lawrence" megasphere that is british according to his own made doomwiki page It was also totally not you who was upset that his tyrannical government blocked imgur (because it doesn't have a loicense for something) and therefore the OP had to be adjusted for (You)
https://github.com/fabiangreffrath/woof/Last woof commit 4 days ago...I..Is it dead, frens?
>>12191803>>12191813I'd tell you that I'm not this "samefag" you keep going on about, but frankly, that would be a waste of both of our times. I've seen you enough to know that nothing will ever convince you otherwise.
>>12191816Oooh he's now switching to his "reasonable guy tired of arguing he's not a samefag" persona I don't if this is supposed to be parody but I am entertained
>>12191819I don't know why the fuck I'm bothering with this. All you're gonna do is just claim that it's an edit.
>>12190194Ignoring faggotry from the shitposter and the anti shitposter aside and in ON TOPIC NEWSVOXEL DOUK IS OUT! and even apogee praised it.https://www.moddb.com/mods/voxel-duke-nukem-3d/addons/voxel-duke-3d
SHUT UP. STOP RUINING THESE FUCKING THREADS! I hate this stupid spam for and against megaman shit. Fuck both of you.Everyone else, what are you playing? I've been working through Kiss Psycho Circus thanks to anon's repack, its so janky but there's a bit of soul there.
>>12191824nice
>>12191830I just finished yearly Deus Ex replay. Used Augmented Edition mod this time. What a game, wish there was something like it
>>12191834Oh Deus Ex is so good. I did a replay of it three months ago. Timeless classic, wish there was more like it!
>>12191830>Everyone else, what are you playing?I've been playing through a bunch of short wads with Mass Disassembly, pic related for The Ocean Breaths Nukage, it's pretty cool.
>>12191830Since I updated Pvt. Stone and finished doing all my usual nonsense to it, I'm about to start Revolution! since I've never played it before and it seems to be somewhat official for it.
>>12191830Still working thorugh Ep3 of Doom 1 again.>>12191168summed up very well what's meh about it.BFG even feels kind of tacked on, in Doom 1 of all things it doesn't feel very necessary
>>12191834>wish there was something like itSame. I'd absolutely kill for something that's just a blatant Deus Ex knockoff but on some iteration of the Quake engine or something that isn't a fucking nightmare to map and mod for.
I've had a thought about a takeoff/spinoff of the Hot Potato concept: A resource wad that gets tossed around where anyone can add whatever monsters, flats, or textures they want. When we reach the final iteration, we use the resulting wad to build a bunch of maps.
went into a bit of a fugue state yesterday night, i was trying to write but couldn't so i played a bit of doom, looked up some reviews for various mods, and realized there were no good reviews for a few of the mods I enjoyed, besides Icarus, and I don't really like his styleso I went and started drafting a script for a tentative Diamond Dragon review videoin the hour or so I spent before I went and passed out I got down some stuff about the weapons and enemies and the integration with AugZen, also this>After singing my praises of this mod when I first discovered it, I found myself receiving responses that pointed towards supposed identity-politics elements within the mod and on its mod page. Sure enough, there they were, a line proudly proclaiming Kiwi’s pronouns and mocking anyone who has an issue with it. The line was hidden in a character profile on a separate web page, and the link to the aforementioned character profile was hidden by a spoiler tag. I don’t particularly care about the pronouns, but boasting on a hidden page is somewhat funny. On the other hand, I appreciate the restraint, in that even if cybermonday couldn’t help themselves but include a statement of identity somewhere, at least they had the restraint to not shove it in the audience’s face. Perhaps they knew it wouldn’t be received well outside of doomworld. Speaking of which, yes — Diamond Dragon was released through doomworld and only doomworld, to my knowledge at least. And well, doomworld is… (chuckle here) It’s doomworld. If you know, you know. If you don’t, feel free to visit and peruse the various doom modding forums, from zdoom to doomer boards to doomworld, and note the differences in community. You’ll understand.
>>12191830i'm playing the Blake Stone games using the BStone source port. next i'll be finishing playing Blood Basket and i'm waiting for the 3DO levels of Killing Time to drop with a patch for the modern port.Psycho Circus is one i've been wanting to play since it came out. i never got around playing it.
>>12191832And lookin good!
>>12191851>I appreciate the restraint, in that even if cybermonday couldn’t help themselves but include a statement of identity somewhere, at least they had the restraint to not shove it in the audience’s face.Maybe you could do the same since most people are only going to care about the gameplay and don't need a diversion into stupid culture war forum bullshit.
>>12191142My main gripe with TFE is that early on it has way too many "tricks and traps" in its level design. You don't get the large scale encounters until a bit later (even Dunes is pretty short despite being the first "big" fight in the game). Meanwhile TSE gets pretty large pretty quickly and doesn't putter around that much in the beginning. They're still very fun in their own rights, and both games have their fair amount of bullshit traps consistently throughout their campaigns. TFE is just a little slower about ramping things up, which is why I'm a bit more fond of TSE.Right now I'm trying a zero secrets serious run of TFE because I want to see just how hard the game is without the extra help from secret weapons. It's been going pretty well but I know I'll hit a wall at some point.
Borrowhelen isn't actually that bad. You guys just shit on it because you had a meltie over the dev's usage of AI voice acting in it.
>>12191896Yeah it's definitely the AI voices that got brought up once and not the hilariously retarded enemies who get stuck on everything or just run off cliffs.
>>12191891i was planning on prefacing this section with a disclaimer so people who don't care about stupid culture war forum bullshit like i do can skip it
>>12191898>and not the hilariously retarded enemies who get stuck on everything or just run off cliffs.or the shitty monotexture mapping or the weapons with piss poor feedback even when some of them have half-decent ideas.
>>12191898>>12191902If there were no AI voices you'd be calling this "ludo soulful kino jank".
>>12191914No, I wouldn't.
>>12191914That sounds pretty much like something I would say, but I've never played it. Nobody in this thread even mentioned the game until you showed up. If you think it's such a great game, why don't you go over what you like about it, post screenshots, videos etc? You'll make a better argument if you praise what you like, rather than criticize other people's criticisms, not to mention a better thread.
>>12191921If Anon had played it, he wouldn't be pulling the AI voice excuse card because it's at best bland as all fuck across the board and at worst comprehensively shit.It wouldn't be worth anybody's time if it were free, shit's 3x the price of Rekkr and about 50% more than Hedon, both of those being actually fucking competent commercial GZDoom releases.
>>12190250Interesting (if lengthy maps), the fuel weapons feel like absolute ass to use though. New monsters are pretty meh and some feel somewhat underutilized at times (looking at you, green cyber).
>>12191959>the fuel weapons feel like absolute ass to use though. The flamethrower's just stupid that has been done better in community wads (like in We Have Doom At Home) and the not-BFG is just fucking weird.>New monsters are pretty meh and some feel somewhat underutilized at times (looking at you, green cyber).Community's also done better there, quite a few examples in Ad Mortem, quite a lot of leaked beta asset usage, quite a lot of mini cyberdemons too.
>>12191458literally me
>>12191950So you're implying AI voices aren't a problem? Is that what you're saying?
Weapon fidgets, my favorite.
>>12191851Not sure it's worth mentioning, but having seen the rest of OP's stuff I feel it would be kinda disingenuous to offer praise without highlighting the identity politics bit. Don't go to OP's twitter, in fact, be glad the furthest it goes is the dumb cat plushie (which I admit is funny) and the dancing cat hologram in the idle animation (which is whatever).Also, as someone who does YT, you more than likely won't get shut down for it but Doomworld will throw a fit and I think that would be funny. Do it.
>>12191839>Since I updated Pvt. Stone and finished doing all my usual nonsense to itEnjoy it, you got like a week tops before it's gotten another update.>>12192012This, stuff like full reloads and dedicated gun spinning buttons are fun as fuck.
>>12191824cool, another reason to replay duke!
>>12192012samus/crash is smilingbad shit is about to happen to whom stands in her way.
>>12190460DO NOT
>Now onto Hard ResetOoh, a very Silent Hill 1 style first map, I liked it a lot. Since I play on survival the huge amount of ammo near the key made me nervous, but it turned out to be rearming you in case you shot your way through the Empties (I just crowbarred them to save the ammo).There's one major thing I hate about this already:THE FUCKING VOICE ACTING IS CLEARLY AI. I hate this shit with a passion, just have text on the screen, don't ruin this with AI voice lines. I hope to god they won't do this for part 3.
>>12192036oh shitwhat's the twitter so i can go take a lookalso assuming this is true>...audience’s face. In fact, it’s a small miracle that they had this much restraint, considering what I’ve seen on their twitter. Perhaps they knew...
>>12192067Nah the voice acting was actually human beings - if you watched the menu credits scroll it goes through listing actors - just the quality is iffy since it's all free and this is a first for Vostyok voice acting wise and you are gonna get suboptimal recordings/actors. Some have really good voice actors - others could use some work or a rerecording of their lines with a better mic/setup.
>>12192049>you got like a week tops before it's gotten another updateAh fug.
>>12191662I really wonder why nobody complained that Gremlins take as much space as a Pinky while being two times smaller.
>>12192093They're usually in such numbers that you're not really trying to get around them even in enclosed spaces so I guess nobody noticed enough to get pissed off at them.
>>12190212>>12190213It's better than Thy Flesh Consumed
>>12192084Oh, then my mistake. I could have sworn they were but maybe it's the audio quality. Either way it's more good shit. I appreciate that the modder wasn't lazy when it came to the guns as Walker uses completely different weapons and gear compared to Scavenger, with exception of the crowbar.
>>12191258Why does Blood have 5 difficulties while Duke and Shadow Warrior have 4?
>>12192179>Also, Extra Crispy is intended for multiplayer co-op >>12191451
>>12192067>>12192175>ZOMG IT'S LE AI!!! SHUT IT DOWN!!!!>actually it's real humans>ah it's all good thenFucking really?
>>12192219Not him, but I'd take voice acting which is poor because it's by a real person but they just weren't very good, over poor voice acting which someone got from proompting. Only one of those has the chance to eventually become good.
>>12192219No, I understand how my post came across and I worded it poorly. I mean the gameplay and locations are more good shit, the dialogue still sucks, human or no. It's less bad that it's shit human voice acting, but I can tolerate it a little more due to this.
>>12191969Obituary did a cooler flamethrower for Doom back in the 1990s. There were also some .wads which did mini Cybers too, and often this simply did not look very great because they'd use a half sized and crushed down sprite, but if we're gonna be fair, the green and dehorned Cybercuck in Legacy Of Rust looks unbelievably fucking ugly, and it's still the same size as a normal one anyway.I don't hate Legacy Of Rust, I think there's good in it, but the custom monsters and weapons are extremely lukewarm.
>>12192067>skipped Dead Man Walking kino againanon you had one fuckin job
>>12192229>>12192235It's probably the same anon that keeps trying to start fights over Borrowhelen, idk I guess he's touchy about people not being down for AI shit.
>>12192229>>12192235That just sounds like a completely moronic position to me.>this voice acting that's so bad that it could be done by an ai and not be worse off for it is actually okay because supposedly it was done by real people!No. Bad VA is bad VA, no matter how it was made. Same goes for good VA, if it's done by an AI but it doesn't sound shit who gives a shit?Also>just have text on screen!I doubt you know better than the devs do. They probably had a good reason to put voiceover in if they did.>>12192250I'm not him.
>>12190193Recommend a weapon mod for playing with Avactor. It seems to have vanilla weapons, but custom monsters, barrels and other decorations.
>>12192254High Noon Drifter.
>>12192246I'll get there eventually, anon.
>>12192051it is now easier to aim when using freelook
Finally bit the bullet and actually worked through a level playing LitDOOM, specifically map1 of dbp_74 phantom processing.>a) I now understand the appeal of this mod>b) Despite being themed as survival and having many such features, you can fundamentally play it not that differently from Brutal Doombasically I couldn't get into it earlier because I was being too cautious and not aggressive enough, thus getting killed by random human soldiersdefinitely not suited for any and all wads but that can be said of any mod that changes the fundamental game balance this muchit reminds me somewhat of uh... Arthur's Edition was it? Or Platinum? One of those other bd but with some realistic features things
I want to thank whoever recommended using Raze over eduke32 for chrome os. For some reason, hardware rendering in duke3d and shadow warrior were not working correctly for me without touchpad glitches with eduke32. Raze works perfect without even having to use fullscreen x11 linux.Zeta touch for android works too, but I get the impression the author is trying to sell it just like his other frontends.
>>12192330>Zeta touch for android works too, but I get the impression the author is trying to sell it just like his other frontends.Zeta can't be sold because of some legal things unlike his other ports. It's the only free port he made
>>12191734>written rulesThey're merely guidelines and have always been. Needless to say, don't act so surprised when things decide to touch back when content is replaced in a hostile manner.
Cool train level. Dunno if this box was supposed to disappear when I shot it, though.
I saw people saying this was rushed but I'm still finding it a lot of fun. Wendigos were horrible to fight I guess, but at least they were few in number. I think it's neat the Black Water raider in Prosperity who was scared of Scav was talking about the shit I just pulled as Walker. Considering how many of them you kill in that section it's no wonder he doesn't want to deal with Scavengers anymore.>>12192252I doubt you know better than the devs do.Okay, this was oddly touchy for some reason. I was only giving an opinion on something I was playing.
>>12192441You know you can do the black water part stealthy (sort of), right?
>>12192449When it works, some of the triggers for shit just break.
>>12192449I did the start to it stealthily. I game back to this guy with the evidence and he helped with the boss fight, but on the way there I couldn't talk down the guys guarding the main entrance and it turned into a fight. I got a lot of use out of the crossbow though.
>>12192450Didn't he fix it them in one of the patches? I'd fucking hope he did, because taking care to replace the mutant picture but not fix that would be kinda retarded.
>Two people with exploded heads in the farm>Two HauntsWait, do people just turn into Haunts and have their brains burst out of their skulls like the introduction to Lost Souls in Doom 3?
>>12192468last I tried it still broke on me but I dunno if that was the engine or the TC's fault.
>>12192476Maybe, who the fuck knows. The only thing known about the enemies in ashes is that they are probably extra-dimensional aliens.
I like that the levels seem to be connected.
>>12192483Level continuity is pretty neat, Headless Chicken has some cool stuff with that one level's a train level and the next you start having crashed the train.
>>12192456>I game back to this guy with the evidence and he helped with the boss fight,you managed to pull off the best outcome on your first run, impressive
>>12192507I suck at finding secrets, but the guy was so adamant I could do this without a gunfight I kept savescumming the (possibly) janky Doom engine stealth bit until I succeeded.
>>12192523hope you bought the map from the guy in Somerville, it's a secret level acces
>>12192485Feels good to have an uncut arm.
>>12192252>Same goes for good VA, if it's done by an AI but it doesn't sound shit who gives a shit?I do.
>>12192252>if it's done by an AI but it doesn't sound shit who gives a shit?Most peoples beef with genAI goes far beyond just the quality of its output, anon.
>>12192507Not OP, but I also manages that first run - am guessing maybe the latest version was more fixed.>>12192532I always love how much effort they put into the secret levels. This one in particular is a doozy.
>>12191824Neat
It'd be cool if Stone's Gutborer could make enemies bleed their own blood instead of Doom's generic blood.>>12192494Looks interesting. Might give that a try at some point.
>>12192219>>12192252You sound really asshurt for some reason. If I didn't already know the dev was cool and not a little bitch I'd assume you were him for how defensive and whiny your posts are.
>>12192438Samus using a Iron Maiden shirt when doomguy is a Megadeth, Pearl Jam and DIO guyAt least she isnt Mai Shiranui who had more mosh pit fights in a Pantera concert than /mu/ posters>>12192564The Birth will be released later, for now this is good shit, also someone should speak with him about forking into the expansion packs.
>>12192597NOBODY MAKES ME BLEED MY OWN BLOOD
>>12192701>more mosh pit fights in a Pantera concert than /mu/ postersNot a big feat since /mu/tants don't actually go to concerts and get into moshpits.
Quakers, if I were to use Copper as the base for a mod (mostly for the sake of compatibility with maps that use it), which of the non-fixes that it does should I revert or try to make optional?So far I'm thinking:>removal of enforcer backpacks>ogres only dropping 1 rocket>changes to nailguns>shambler anti-dance bullshit
>>12192597>It'd be cool if Stone's Gutborer could make enemies bleed their own blood instead of Doom's generic blood.I think it does with some stuff like Nash's mods, though the wave displacer doesn't work with it.
>pick up +100 health heart in serious sam>nothing happens>pick up a shotgun ammo box>10 million kleer spawnsilly me, I should have known
Anyone interested in a small spot of Deathmatch? Could do like>QCDE>Half-Life>QuakeWorld>Xonotic>Halo: Aerial>UT99>UT2k4
>>12192732Enforcers being stationary turrets is pretty fucking gay, so that. Come to think of it, I can't think of anything Copper does that I like.
>>12192732Is it the newest Copper? It took away the one thing I enjoyed (less crazy voreballs), and while I’m fairly tolerant towards its other changes I did not like the “always resurrecting” zombies.Does the newest branch still make enemies as consistently “hitstunable” as they were in the previous version?
Just finished played DBP 29: Morbid Autumn and this is one of the very best DBP I've ever played, it's really great, all maps are good to great. None are too long or too difficult, absolute blast to play.Wish I took some screenshots cause there's some great looking maps in there but I was busy playing. Absolutely top tier.
>>12192747Dang, some other time then
>>12192756>I can't think of anything Copper does that I like.Same.I mean, the actual, objective fixes are great and so are all the extra mapping features, but it's pretty dumb that you have to accept someone's niche and arguably incoherent attempt at 'balancing' the game along with them.>>12192765>Is it the newest Copper?That's what I would be using, yes.>Does the newest branch still make enemies as consistently “hitstunable” as they were in the previous version?Not sure, haven't actually played something that uses Copper in a long time.Actually, I haven't even experienced the nightmare changes that people were talking about a while back, but I'd probably make those optional and off by default.
don't look its too scary
>>12192818That HUD face gets me every time.
>>12192818Chat, is this real?
>>12192845Yes. It's a big crossover ROM hack that has a bunch of levels and powers from other games.Mario in the Multiverse
>>12192705Exactly what I was thinking when I wrote it.>>12192739I noticed it did when I loaded Project Malice after Stone, but since it spawns the regular "blood" actor, it can't do other colors.
>>12192818This boomstick reminds me of Dangerous Dave.
Does anyone know if the second set of maps mentioned in the readme were ever actually released?https://simplici7y.com/items/yugepax/
Been using old z doom 2.81. Gonna use this for a while now. Guess it came out in 2016. What's the oldest source port you guys are using ???
I'm new to this series of general threads and I have a question.Is Quake II not liked? I noticed it's neither discussed nor is it covered in the posted guides.
>>12193028Quake 2's kind of an odd man out. The gameplay isn't as cool or crunchy as Quake 1, and the multiplayer pales in comparison to 3.I like most of the tweaks to the arsenal in the remake/remaster/whatever, except for fucking up the railgun don't do that why would you do that.
>>12193028>Is Quake II not liked? I noticed it's neither discussed nor is it covered in the posted guides.It's not as popular as Quake 1, which already isn't as popular as Doom, but it's had a bit of a resurgence lately and it still has a good chunk of custom content.
>>12193028>>12193031>>12193047I really liked quake 4 that was a good game
>>12193076Quake 4 is okay. I have a fondness for the Blaster and Assault Rifle. They're not fancy, but I find them satisfying to shoot.
>>12193081Its a fun little game i had alot of fun playing it back in the day. Id still play it now desu. I think it also came with the first official port full pc port to console of quake 2 which is how I beat it the first time rbh
>>12192756>Come to think of it, I can't think of anything Copper does that I like.I wonder if one of the devs used to come here years back, because I remember whenever I complained that the Nailguns were pointlessly nerfed and I disliked that, someone would always get really indignant and upset and tell me I was wrong. Also there couldn't possibly be more than one person thinking that, until they couldn't deny that, lol.>>12193028It tends to be pretty liked by some. I always liked it, and I always disagreed with some people who would aggressively insist that Q2 was nothing but a bad game. You don't actually tend to see as much of that posting anymore.Allegedly, some of it was promoted by some sort of Q1 mapping cabal which resented Q2, but I don't know if that's really true. Maybe? There's lots of weird freaks loose on the web, but one of the guys repeatedly going on about that was pretty weird himself, and seemed to mirror some of the resentment onto Q1 instead, which isn't exactly better.I think part of breaking some of that anti-Q2 attitude, is that the remaster of Q2 came out and it was largely well received. Not universally loved, but it reminded some of what they liked about Q2 regardless, and for some it made changes which they felt Q2 needed.I haven't actually played the Q2 Remaster yet, but one of the things it tries doing is to improve on the enemy AI, as notoriously, Tim Willits insisted on having LOTS of enemy behavior removed and dummied out during the original game's development (there's all kinds of unused animations for most enemies in the original release).I think Q2 is a fairly solid SP experience over all. Maybe in need of some improvements here and there, so I'm still interested in trying the revamped version.Q2's MP has honestly been pretty forgotten and underappreciated in later years, in spite of being really solid, and for laying a LOT of the foundation of what would make Q3, a game everyone loved so much for its MP
>>12192756Never played its Nightmare mode? Best thing about Copper, bar none. I don't even know what else it does.
>>12193098>I remember whenever I complained that the Nailguns were pointlessly nerfed and I disliked that, someone would always get really indignant and upset and tell me I was wrong.Wasn't only the SNG buffed and the regular nailgun buffed?
>>12193119Wow it's late.>SNG *NERFED, regular nailgun buffed
>>12193119Lunaran's website lists all the changes Copper does. >To help distinguish the two nailguns from each other, so that the Perforator is less of a straight upgrade, the velocity of nails from the Nailgun has been doubled, while the Perforator has been given a little spread (comparable to the Shotgun). This makes the Nailgun better at long-range needling (to reduce the necessity of efficient-but-boring shotgun sniping), while the Perforator is just as good as always at close DPS but potentially wasteful at range. Their damage outputs are unchanged.>The Perforator now fires two regular nails at once, rather than one nail that is "better", to better leverage the aforementioned shoot-through. When the player uses the Perforator with a Quad, the two spikes' damages are always combined against one target, to ensure there is no reduction in ludicrous gibs compared to vanilla Quake.
>>12193123Might as well have just copied the SMG/minigun dichotomy of Quake 2 of making the SNG have to spool up or down and have bad accuracy, but giving it a much higher firerate than the regular nailgun. The way he has it now seems like weird halfway point.There's also just the obvious thing of rotary guns not firing from multiple barrels at once.
>>12193129I ain't got no dog in this fight. I see a super nailgun in any Quake mod, I never use the regular nailgun again. Simple as.
>>12193129For the sake of argument, maybe the SNG would fire a duplex cartridge, then there could be two projectiles coming out the same barrel basically at the same time.
>>12193123That's what I remember about the mod: Regular nailgun projectile increase (buff), super nailgun accuracy decrease (nerf).So, if whenever >>12193098 was complaining that both nailguns (plural) were both nerfed, and someone would tell him 'that's wrong'...I mean, sure: Only one was nerfed. Were you just complaining about the super nailgun nerf? Because I messed up earlier too >>12193120 and that's why I'm confused.I can see the intent - and I usually save the super nailgun for "oh god" quick close quarters combat anyways - but I also think leaving the super nailgun as is and just buffing the regular would have been enough. Nails can be pretty precious, and even when I was going through AD/Alkaline recently I would occasionally use the regular nailgun over the super if the enemy wasn't staying still at a long distance.>>12193129Iirc, Tomb of Thunder is Copper derivative and does something like that for it's supernailgun replacement: It has a wind-down effect once you're done firing. However, it's also hitscan so it's a flatout HUGE upgrade and I never went back to using the regular nailgun.
>>12190890Cool, cause she's mine.
>>12193150Back the fuck off??
>>12193028The single player map design boring and no one has played the legitimately good multiplayer in 20 years.
>>12193162i would say Quake 2's map design is extremely consistent, to the point it can become a detriment
>>12193119>>12193120>>12193139That was it. Long time now desu. Anyway, improving the regular NG is like, fine, I guess, but I strongly disapprove of nerfing the most fun and satisfying weapon for no reason (to me, anyway).Same reason I really dislike the nerf for the Railgun in the Q2 remaster, that seems extremely unnecessary given how the smarter enemy AI means you virtually never get the stealth damage bonus with it anyway.
>>12193205The accuracy decrease means nothing in practice.t. plays Quake a lot
What's "skill 5" in Duke Nukem since "skill 4" is Damn I'm Good?
>>12193305Eat Shit & Die
I've only ever played the HD versions of the original two Serious Sam games. how are the classics in comparison?
who would win in an arm wrestling competition between doomguy, duke guy, lo wang guy, caleb guy, rangerguy, serious samguy, and gordonfreeman guy?>>12193359better gamefeel. i say that with no irony. but unless you loooove serious sam, you got your fill with the hd versions.
>>12192818That's rad. Gonna find a download.
>>12193359Proper gravity screw sections instead of filling them with water.
>>12193362Duke because his balls of steel will weigh him down.
Sandy just can't stop winning
>>12193472The tranny is right. Doomguy protects humanity, ergo he protects trannies and gays and whatever.However Sandy's greater point of shutting the fuck up about it is based.
>>12191824Is it just me or eduke32 always spends 30 seconds "Generating 3D meshes from voxel model data" at each startup?
>>12193407insert> fully modeledmeme here
>>12193479Hello, doomworld
>>12193486Hello, Daedalus.
>>12193479I agree. Doomguy's whole shtick is actions, not words. I don't care for nuDoom but I respect the shit out of them for making him speak like maybe 4 times since 2016.
>>12193482...ah that's only on Polymost
>>12193515Oh.........
>>12192818I remember Mushroom Kingdom Fusion also having Doom and even Quake 1 and 2 elements.
>>12193479He's more interested in killing demons than saving mankind. Playing savour is just his excuse so people don't think he's crazy.
>>12193098>I wonder if one of the devs used to come here years back, because I remember whenever I complained that the Nailguns were pointlessly nerfed and I disliked that, someone would always get really indignant and upset and tell me I was wrong. Also there couldn't possibly be more than one person thinking that, until they couldn't deny that, lol.I remember that too, someone used to fiercely defend Copper and Slipseer in general, and it was obvious it was someone related to that site or project.
>>12193028Quake 2 is a weird one. I like the guns and the Strogg, but I burn out super quick and find it kind of boring. I can play Quake 1 and Doom wads for months no problem, but Quake 2 just feels bland somehow.I don't HATE it, but I don't love it either.
I like thinking about playing Quake 2 when I'm not playing Quake 2, but then when I play Quake 2, I stop after about 15 minutes. It's very strange.
>>12193481>Ogre 21 gun salute
>>12193552daring today, aren't we
>>12193031q2 is a better ffa game than q3a and pheonix ffa, tastyspleen and playground.ru are populated literally every day
>>12193567Either you responded to the wrong post or I'm just completely baffled by your response.
What sound does he make?
>>12193592>POTATO
>>12191824Groovy
>>12193472>Hi Sandy, hope you're doing well...
>>12193028Quake 2 base game is fine, the expansions however were extremely tedious
>>12193654looks goofy as hell
>>12193654>me holding my poop while i eat breakfast
>>12193659to be fair they get goofy like that too in 2D if their pathfinding gets fucked like that
>>12193672Guilty.
>>12193674Fair enough, though that particular scenario exacerbates the issues voxels have in "2.5d" games
>>12193359They're worth playing, especially for the gravity sections in TSE. Also if you played the HD versions through Fusion then you won't be plagued by the sliding kleer and werebull bugs.
how is meme traced Sam?
GOOD MORNING MOTHERFUCKERS, IT'S THAT TIME OF THE WEEK AGAIN: SCREENSHOT SATURDAY!! WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON? Maps, mods, sprites? Now's a good time to post that shit!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve4JxxCuPko&t=1554>villain from previous act joins your party
>>12193746I don't think save/load bugs should be counted as soft locks.
>>12193754It's something you could encounter in normal play though.
>>12193768Falling through a crack smaller than the player model?
>>12192862What wad did you say this was? Headless Chicken?
>>12193771You get unlucky and end your play session with doomguy standing over the crack between some crates. When you load your save the next day he gets warped to the floor inside the crack and becomes stuck.
>>12192090Fug indeed.https://skelegant.itch.io/pvt-stone/devlog/1121269/update-to-v135-fire-in-the-disco
>>12192049>>12192090Anon was right.>https://skelegant.itch.io/pvt-stone/devlog/1121269/update-to-v135-fire-in-the-discoMolotov cocktails, nuclear mortar shells, tweaks to the M16 and nuke launcher, a few more cvars and an alternative to the Thumper.
>>12193479>ergo he protects trannies and gays and whatever.Why wouldn't he protect the people that hate trannies and gays and whatever? Ethics aren't definable objectively and any person's or group's ethics will be irreconcilable with many other groups'.>anti-Q2 attitudeThe rhetoric/community memory seems to have shifted in the last couple years, but my experience aligns with the previous rhetoric that q1 was beloved and q2 was considered a neat but forgettable game quickly overshadowed by others. I disagree that there was widespread "anti-Q2" or disdain for it, just that it wasn't that great.Just a few years later in the early 00's (02, 03...) multiplayer and mapping/modding was still all about qw/qwtf and q3a, q2 was dead IIRC.
I know the main lead of updating and maintaining this engine left Croteam and that's why the team pivoted to UE5, but does anyone know of the internal politics that occurred that gave way to this engine going to hell for SS4 before it was ultimately abandoned?
>>12193745I've been digging in the guts and copy-pasting default code from zdoom wiki in preparation for things. Nothing show-worthy yet, imo.
>>12193775Headless Chicken uses AA textures so it's not that.
has anyone done no secrets pistol start challenge runs of all IWADs?
lol I can't
>>12193881Oh dear
>>12193745If I'm making brightmaps I don't have to have the background be black, do I? Or is it a difference between original ZDoom and modern GZDoom?
>>12193881>now in pigovision
>>12190193What's a good 32-map Megawad for playing Aracnocide (as the Red Army soldier) with Rampancy?
>>12193885What I usually do is have it set up like this in Aseprite:>The brightmaps themselves>Solid black layer>The sprite I want to brightmapI can't recall what the rules are on having a transparent background, but I just make them solid black and it just works™
AGAIN! The fuckers got me again with a fake Doom monster! God dammit...
>>12193935That one didn't get me as bad as the 2063 oneThat one actually felt like it could have been an encounter
>>12193864Hard to tell, since AntiSherlock isn't a dsda category. I'd watch a E4M2 one
>>12193935The only time this sort of a "scare" has ever worked on me was in Blood's "Death Wish" in the tower level.
Also my crowbar is a complete abomination after I let that guy upgrade it, but damn is the altfire good for one shotting unarmed enemies. The implied lore on the mutants being aliens is interesting too.
>>12193954>I'd watch a E4M2 oneSo, no berserk, no blue armour, no BFG. No cyberdemon telefrag. Plasma but reduced ammo. You'd probably have to chainsaw so much shit. At least you can raise the platform around the yellow key switch. Nonetheless it sounds like unfun with a capital unf.
>>12193826all of the forced anti q2 shit came mostly from fairweather and his kliq, even spirit, baker and most of q1 community didnt hide their hate towards q2 and q3, some even for doom.which is funny because quaddicted still hosts the best q2 maps ever made at quake hotel archive
>>12194006https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3Q2Tv6rMTs obviously it's envy
>>12194006I really fucking hate Fairweather and his little astroturfing fanclub for what they did to the Quake 1 community and the day they all give up and fuck off will be a good one. But I doubt they had a huge part in Quake 2 being disliked, I feel it did a good job of that itself with how different it was to Quake 1.
>>12193929Is LibreSprite a good free alternative?Also, do we know if these 'redbits' for his abs are supposed to be glowing like the Cyberdemon's?
>>12194017you can get aseprite for free by compiling it yourself
Why are gzshit mods allowed itt?
>>12194083sorry chud doom is a roguelite
>>12193654modern Doomworld is unable to fathom a game being designed without LGBTQ+ and minorities being discussed or involved. they also memoryhole that Romero used to say 'fag' a lot because now Carmacks the bad one to them
Is the "move mouse to reload" mechanic new in DS? its been a long long time since i last played it
>12194089Are these threads just getting botted now or what?
>>12194098That's what happens when you let 3rd worlder GZsloppers infest the thread.
>>12194098Eat the broke. Duke Nukem 3D RTX Remix now.
>3rd worlder GZsloppersOh, I'm sure you're here in good faith.
>>12194089tru
>>12194102>>12194083your bait is shit and you should kill yourself or come back with better bait
>>12194098I think it's bored /v/ retards trying epic raids or thinking it would be so funny to come here and vomit their obnoxious buzzwords.
>>12194089romero would be to throwing romans if it was in voguehe is a trend follower
>>12194132Apparently it has been getting broadcast around that this is the best thread to come to, to spout inane bullshit and do culture war crap. It sure would explain the last year of shitflinging in here.
playing Weather Report rn. Stuck for more than half and hour looking for progression. I think I need to open this door somehow, but... how?
>>12194158I had the same issue, the progression could be a lot better at that stage of the map. I think i solved this by going back to the main submerged room and finding another route you can swim through.
>>12194145It could be worse, at one point you had spergs on /v/ constantly trying to push Doom Eternal as the only "good" Doom while sneering at the originals. I'm surprised they didn't come here to try that shit.
>>12194089The fuck did Adrian Carmack do?
Forgive me if this is a retarded question. I've never done anything with dehacked or wads other than sprite/sound replacements. Is it possible to make a wad or something that upon performing a certain action it triggers the sourceport to save the game like a checkpoint?
>>12194190Crimes against Keen.
>>12194165>>12194158finally found it. It was this stupid button I tried pressing many times and it didn't work. Turns out I needed to press it from the side somehow.
>>12192732Ogres only dropping one rocket is anti-fun.
>>12194227
>>12194221Yep, quite a few TCs do it using lines, depending on the map format, and GZ/UZDoom have stuff like autoautosave that you could probably look at.
>>12194091It’s been in there for at least a year, I think.
>>12194235Duke has short baby arms. Try shooting it, instead.
>>12194221>>12194237I'm specifically wanting to have Nugget autosave when I grab a keycard/skull key
>>12194253you can make it an engine feature and submit a MR
>>12194232Copper in general is anti-fun. I hear it actually improves nightmare, but other than that I avoid it when possible.
>>12194253You'd have to get it added to the port, it's definitely not something you can do with dehacked.
>>12193935It wasn't as effective as the mancubus in 2063 to me>>12193959That one scared the shit out of me the first time even when i was kind of expecting it
>>12194267it makes the main 4 episodes a little ballbusting with the ammo drought. both copper and ad come from a perverted desire to turn quake into doom and i hate them both
>>12194274>hating Copper and ADThat's a new one. I'd at least say that AD is sort of opposite on the ammo economy in introducing me to all those respawning boxes. Some Copper mods also felt like they maybe overcompensate with ammo due to the lack of enemy drops.
>>12194274>ad attempts to turn quake into doom
>>12194235Seems like wonky switches are a build staple. Playing AMC right now, was just on a switch that would only be activated from a very specific position right in front of it.
>>12194227>>12194235thanks for playing anon. This button is the worst, hard to use because of some behind the scenes stuff going on. I think I know how to fix it now but I'm too lazy to go back to it
>>12193406I wonder how hard would be to do location based damage on the enemies with voxels.
>>12193840Some people say that the creator of the engine abandoned/was fired and the people left didn't knew how to properly use it.
>>12194120It's cool, we can piss them off with good faith Doom mods.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8onDklHjBTQ
I've changed my mind I'm not cut out to put up with LiTDOOM's bullshiti'm playing treasure tech with malefactors instead
>>12193745I've been tinkering with Operation Deadbolt to make it compatible with WADs that have their own extensive Dehacked patches.I take no credit for the latter, an acquaintance pitched the idea and adjusted everything in my code. I tested Eviternity 2, Ad Mortem and Monster Sounds EX' MBF21 version to be sure and yeah, it's all working perfectly. Nothing is overwriting anything.This is kind of a breakthrough and I'm honestly kinda giddy about it.
>>12194435Nice, it's a fucking pain to track down and wirepull dehacked stuff, especially pre-decohack stuff that's not been commented at all.
>>12194432Treasure Tech isn't compatible with enemy mods. It probably won't crash, but you won't be able to stun+throw or get treasure from replaced enemies.
>>12194524>but you won't be able to stun+throw or get treasure from replaced enemiesah that's why something felt a tiny bit off and why i felt like i was getting not quite enough cashthanks for letting me know
>>12194482Here's hoping this works with none of that.
>>12194524>but you won't be able to stun+throw or get treasure from replaced enemies.Wouldn't be impossible to cobble together a patch with the states from both, grave sprites wouldn't be perfect though.
>>12194538Nice, should at least be less of a fucker than running it with something like Preacher.
You guys weren't lying about the secret level. That tour was something else.
>>12193654This looks fucking terrible. I like the effort people have put into sculpting voxel monsters, but it jives so fucking awfully with how monsters in these kinds of games actually move.>>12193472Probably because Doomguy is barely a defined character at all (and on purpose), and also because this was an era where being an idpol obsessed socialist freak (or any other kind of politically obsessed freak, for that matter) didn't have much normalization in general society or entertainment, so people who operated that way either kept it on the down low, or they got pushed out onto the fringes because the only other people who could actually tolerate that at all are other such freaks (and even then, often they didn't anyway, even within what was ostensibly the same ranges of beliefs).Even when the iD guys were making Wolfenstein 3D, any real politics to be gleaned from it are at best extremely surface level, and had primarily to do with them being fans of the original Castle Wolfenstein, which exists simply because Silas Warner thought a WW2 spy scenario would be a good setting for an adventure.
>>12194578yeah all the Wolfensteins prior to the Machine Games reboot were basically apolitical, even if you were a an actual neonazi the nazis in those games were so far removed and mythologized it would have been ridiculous to get offendedto some extent this can also apply to the first nu-wolf gamebeyond that point, eugh
>>12193479Because it's a matter of SUDDENLY, HELL, therefore we literally have no time to spend on ANY sociopolitics because if we don't fight, there won't even be any peoples or societies left later to discuss hypothetical sociopolitics in.This is one of the reasons Doomguy being mostly ambiguous and vaguely defined is good.The other is that it's literally perfectly fine to not address society or politics at all in your entertainment works.>>12193486He's right in the pragmatic sense, because again, analyzing the premise of Doom establishes that humanity as a whole is in really deep shit, and that killing the demons and surviving and stopping the invasion takes precedence over literally any and all differences and questions in society before that.Compare to a famine. Maybe you don't like basedbean flour, you think it's nasty as hell, but you also have barely gotten any calories and nutrients in 8 weeks, so that shit is just gonna have to do.
>>12194578WW2 being a setting and theme for the character motivations was the political ceiling for all WW2 media back then; no one really thought about about how they could make this politically relevant, neither the developers nor the players that discussed it. It was something normal, red-blooded men liked for the action and gritty tales of survival, and it was something old people could get into since it was a real, non-fictional scenario at its core. In the same way boomers gravitated toward flying simulators and racing games because they were based on tangible, real-world skills, war games followed the same beats. Specific to Wolf 3D, it was also something gamers in general appreciated due to the technology and how fast the game was, as well as the modding legacy it brought over from Castle Wolfenstein in the 80s. WW2 media was as apolitical as anything else, which I imagine a lot of newgen can't believe to be the case. It wasn't even a thought in people's mind during discussions.
>>12194586The Nazis in older Wolfenstein games can at best be described as being hyperfocused on all kinds of absurd mumbojumbo which Heinrich Himmler thought could help Germany's war efforts. Himmler was an extremely ridiculous person and had strong hopes in really fringe science and occultism, which is the kind of spaced out stuff that many years after the fact makes for fun and imaginative pulp adventures, like Indiana Jones or Wolfenstein.
>>12194615Can just be boiled down to easy, free binary morality setting that you didn't have to write or put effort into for people to understand (even if it usually was America saves the world from the goodness of it's heart, lol).It's hard to find a more prebuilt setting that isn't just basing it off some other fictional thing al la doing a Games Workshop.
>>12194626>It's hard to find a more prebuilt setting that isn't just basing it off some other fictional thing al la doing a Games Workshop.40k steals everything. Hell, the Imperium and the God Emperor are straight up taken from Dune.
>>12194578i've replayed postal 2 recently and i can't imagine a game being made today that is as neutral and not completely filtered through xitter NRx or bluesky communist bias
>>12194629Funny you should say that since Postal 4 was neutered to hell and back. Postal 2 was so edgy it came across as trying too hard, but Postal 4 feels like a bunch of redditors were trying to be edgy while also being mindful of things that would really offend people, defeating the point.
>>12194632postal 4 is so cucked it brings me to tears, anything snoygoy11 is seriously involved with is bound to blow chunks, best case scenario it might be an inconsequential "haha funny sewer/jail cell" referenceremember when troontrakill has a cancer mouse bossfight? you know, cancer mouse, the muppet shabbos11 uses to strawman anyone he disagrees with.at least we have Brain Damaged
>>12194640You were right in saying Postal 2 was a product of its time. It will be a very long time before anything like that can be made again, and since technology will be even better by that point it'll lack the entertaining jank that made it so fun anyway
>>12194628Yep, hard to find a 70s/80s sci-fi thing they didn't rip off (some of the 80s miniatures were even clones of another company's Darth Vader miniature lol), almost makes it fitting that Tim Willits tried to bullshit Doom as having been inspired by 40k.
>>12193654Too fat to fit.
>>12194647tbf they had already lost the thread with apocalypse weekend which felt more like serious sam 2 than postal 2
>I'm smoking on that Brutal Pack 10.4 slam firing my shotgun, got my SSG bound to 4 and a full mag burst fire on my pistol, don't fuck with me>Call me Mr. Doom Miser, I'm high on methProbably the first BD derivative that feels completely different from BD in terms of gamefeel. Also the first that can reach speeds more cracked out than Diamond Dragon. I can't really properly convey it through an image or even video. Also great new weapon sounds.Everything is extremely tight, almost to a fault, the enemies are unique and I'm pretty sure there are unique dismemberment sprites.You can really tell the guys (guy?) working on this play the mod and are good at it
>>12194176It is. The only reason you think the originals are the "best" is because of the WADs.
>>12194713>because of the WADs.Which wads?
>>12190193So is Lost Civilization supposed to be groundbreaking? The levels look nice, but I'm not a fan of getting sniped by hitscanners in massive open maps
>>12194718https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULeDlxa3gyc
>>12194713>You only think it's good because the content is goodOkay.
>>12194747"qualityslop"
>>12194718Brutal Doom
>>12194747Fan made content that wasn't part of the original games.
>>12194754But it still exists.
>>12194741I don't recall it being that 'annoying', and there's a max distance to the hitscanning attacks anyways. It's definitely something you play more for it's form than it's function, though.>>12194754Not much stake in this but do you consider Final Doom part of the "original games"?
>>12194754i actually like vanilla doom, doom 2 and plutonia especially
>>12194754Which fan made content?
>>12194762inb4 "ackshyually plutonia is ascended fan content"
>>12194772does it count as official valve content
>>12194761In a way. It's "official content" considering it's published by id Software, but it doesn't really matter because it's still just the same ol' gameplay.Fact is, Doom Eternal breathed new life into the series by evolving it past the stale gameplay of the originals.
Any other wads with shorter maps like scythe?
>>12194776can you elaborate on what it had evolved and why it's a good thing
>>12194776I feel the same way towards Final Doom that I do towards Eternal, just that FD didn't really need to make any "tweaks" from Doom 1 and 2 beyond making better use of what was there.
>>12194781Better graphics, no boring ass gameplay where you're humping walls for secrets, all action all the time.
>>12194786obvious troll is obvious
>>12194776am I back in 2020? is it summer? this poster feels like i'm being flashed back 5 years
>>12194789That's because an Anon mentioned it so some dummy couldn't even wait a thread to try to run with it.
>>12194787It's funny how insecure Eternal makes people. I can guess they were filtered so hard by the gameplay, they refused to "git gud" and ran back to the comfort of the originals.
>>12194787Yeah, it's just a bored kid taking that one anon's post as a challenge. Don't respond and it'll scamper off back to /v/ and make another e-celeb thread or whatever those retards do.
>>12193743Soulless.
>>12194807so it's just like the original?
>>12194713Yes, the originals are the best because of the iwads.
>Push button>nothing happens except music goes silent????
I got filtered. I've been doing pistol starts on every level of Doom 1 and now Doom 2 and I can't beat this level. The pinkys at the end always get me and the one time I made it past that the chaingunners and revenant got me before I could even get the megasphere.
>>12194845That map is a bitch from a pistol start. I think outrunning the manc is a good start, but there's not much to keep it from just shooting and ruining your hallway-clearing nuke whien you get the pain elementals out.
>>12191093Yeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FQhTdgD1_g
>>12194017Libresprite or Pixelorama are good choices.Also damn. If you make brights for GMOTA's monsters, I might actually make them a part of the mod itself.
>>12194845First wave of pain elementals could be a harsh initiation trial, but afterwards it's supposed to be smoother sailing. Actually, I don't remember what happens for the most duration of the map. I guess there is that horde of pinkies on the opposite stand, who may gobble you up if you're not quick to deal with them. Then there's a pinkies/archville trap? Which my messy memories for some reason make me believe is actually comes from a Plutonia map, or is being misattributed from some entirely different wad. And spider mastermind too. Pistol starting can be quite tough, yeah.
>>12194807I like the left better.
>>12194267>>12194274In id1, you end up with enough rockets that you're always north of 50. I'm not sure 1 less rocket is so detrimental. All it really means is you need to switch to the sng sometimes.>adWat. AD gives you a bunch of shells. It goes the opposite way.
>>12193840I have naught but speculations, but I'm pretty sure I'm right, but I'll probably wait until next thread to tell you because I have to go to a thing soon.
>Just browsing my screenshots of my Ashes sessions>Notice something weird on this one and zoom in>A fucking woman in a red dress is just standing on the other side of the quarryDamn that's spooky. It's like looking through old photos and seeing a ghost in the background. I saw her on the security camera in the Mall too. I wonder if she's like Gman and she's in every level.
>>12195039Matrix reference?
>>12193775Revolution! with all the extras including Pvt. Stone's stuff and the midi pack.
>>12193794>>12193817Fug. Now I gotta decide if I wanna do all this again right now and then start Revolution! over. All that stuff sounds cool though, and I don't think this'll take as long again.
>>12195131>activate windows at the bottom
>>12195138Eh. Windows 8 got discontinued and I'm very lazy.
>>12194974It's just brutal, period. I watched a few videos of people doing it from a pistol start on UV, and they are punching all the pinkies without getting hit. What's the trick to that? I tried that and I just get demolished.
>>12195141>Windows 8Somehow, that makes it even worse.
>>12195072Look again.
>>12195141I thought it was an intentional inclusion to your list down here, that makes this even funnier.
>>12195131My list is thankfully a lot shorter, I add skip toggles to the pistol power shot and the sword beam thing, the latter especially fucks me up when I'm trying to hit shit, add some sbarinfostuff, move some weapon slot stuff around, add inventory.althudicons to all the fucking weapons and remove the allmaps from the berserk effects because that shit really annoys me.
>>12193362quakeguy
>>12193479He does kill possessed soldiers like it's nothing, though.
>>12194967I thought I'd get more done today but stuff came up. Should be able to get 3-4 monsters done a day, though, then I'll work on the scripting.
Lad's streaming UT99 OST via Winamphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LICFkJm2xzg
>>12195159Additional comedy: I didn't see that it was there because it was mostly overlapping with the actual message and my brain's just tuned it out.>>12195165The new versions have their own toggle for the Eagle slug, but I could use one for the sword's vertical slice, I'm not really a fan of that either.>add inventory.althudiconsWhat's that for?
>>12195198>The new versions have their own toggle for the Eagle sluglol, I didn't notice, just kept using mine.>What's that for?Some alt huds use it for weapon display, also handy for if you're using stuff like the Gearbox mod so it doesn't default to the first viewsprite for some weapons.
>>12195150>What's the trick to that?They can't attack and move at the same time. Close in, punch them while baiting their bite, then move away. Do this as far forward as you can, bait as many pinkies as possible before moving away so they spend time biting the air instead of moving and pushing you back. It's all about managing the space you have, multiple pinkies will push you back but you're gonna be thinning their numbers as they do and hopefully kill them all before you run out of space or at least kill enough so you can move to the other side of the horde and start again.The hard part with this map is the pain elementals, not the pinkies. Once you past the meatballs you're golden. Pain assholes can't vomit lost shits if you hug them and the beserk punch deals more damage than the shotgun, use that to your advantage to save ammo.
>>12193362Doomguy (with berserk) > Wang > Doomguy (without berserk) = Duke > Ranger > Sammy > Caleb > Freeman
>>12190194[11-23] Helion v0.9.9.0 updatehttps://github.com/Helion-Engine/Helion/releases/latest
>>12194776I feel like there was something in the middle with different gameplay but I can't quite put my finger on what...
>>12195232Don't other characters also have similar powerups? Duke's VitX etc
>>12195261>WangHe has the smoke bomb that increases punch damage for some reason (maybe he can be more accurate with his punches when the enemy can't see him?), but it isn't the same as steroids from space. Also you can't use smoke bombs during a arm wrestling match.>DukeHis steroids quadruple his damage (and make him faster). Berserk pack increases damage tenfold.Maybe he can beat Wang with them, but space steroids is still superior.>CalebBest he's got is the boots and they don't increase damage. Unlike the top three, he's one of the protags that has an actual melee weapon. Duke, Wang and Doomguy all can fight with their fists (or legs).>Ranger He has the Quad damage, which is still only 4 times the damage. It also affects all weapons so it must be some magic voodoo or something, not a physical performance boost. Possibly not effective on an arm wrestling match. He's also can't punch demons to death.>SamI don't think he has anything like that. Plus way too many games and it's all a mess.>FreemanHe's a scientist. He works out at the library, not at the gym.
>>12195337I feel like Duke would be stronger than Doomguy at base so both with their respective roids would be a pretty even matchup
this is what it has come to, powerscaling retro shooter protagonists
>>12193515Had to set Disk Cache to ON in polymost settings
>>12195339Duke's big mooscles are due to roids, he isn't as strong as he looks. It's like that powerlifter and bodybuilder thing. Doomguy and Wang are strong because of actual hard work and training. This is also why I put Wang above them both at base, he spends his all his free time training and flirting with anime girls (which will make you stronger) even if he's less buff than either of them.
>>12190441That's amazing of me. Here I was thinking "Where is that update anyway? I've been waiting." and I just managed to fucking miss that you posted it days ago. Awesome.>>12190492I really hope you went to the doctor.>>12191662Cool. Maybe that could be included as an optional patch of some sort?
This jump really pisses me off!
>>12195402In fair conscience, Sub Mortem shouldn't be considered complete until its father project Ad Mortem leaves the wip state. Less said about uploading to idgames. There's a bunch of unreleased assets which haven't yet seen the light of day, take BFG as it was pulled from r667 and compare it to handicraft original plasma gun.
Ghoul shotgunner
>>12195427oh it's accessed via a doggo apartmentGreat map! How's part 2 called?
>>12195402Dang, I even left it in both threads to make sure>I really hope you went to the doctorNot to get into details, but yeah it's absolutely nothing to get something like that checked out and handled in my state. Honestly the only part that really sucked was having to get back in the car, lol.
I regret to admit I didn't give UAC Ultra its well-deserved shot because I saw the starter outdoor area in the first map and instantly lost interest
>>12195494What are your favorite maps?
>>12195502only 3 deep so farplaying with Brutal Pack v10.4
>>12195430>until its father project Ad Mortem leaves the wip stateSo, will my non-existent children be able to play it or should I leave it to my non-existent grandchildren instead?
>>12195494I think I remember playing that with PB.
>>12195494For some reason, I repeatedly mix up UAC Ultra with Jenesis, probably because both have a heavy emphasis on hurtfloors (though they look really nothing alike).I mostly liked both of them, probably liking UAC Ultra more, liking its looks especially.
>>12195528aaaa yourself
>>12195538
>>12195467lockedandloaded also cool map, love the highly detailed decorations
>>12195430>There's a bunch of unreleased assets which haven't yet seen the light of dayReminder that this is the same reason 94 Protons is being delayed. Chopblock is still supposed to be working on the guns. The development of SubMortem should not be beholden to a separate project that hasn't seen progress in years. I don't care about Ghoul shotgunners if it takes this long to release. Remember that the first phase of AM began August 2021? In general, projects should have the assets done BEFORE mapping begins.
doomheads, is this FOV authentic? 74 default is giving a headache to my zoomer PC gamer brain also pls don't tell me to use another source port i cba i like doom 1+2
>>12195402Fell asleep, lol.>>12190194https://files.catbox.moe/bdpde1.zipAnyway, here it is, Sub Mortem RC2 (I threw in the Gremlin gib .wad too), and that's that all wrapped up and done.
>>12195634actually 90 feels fine and not like its too much ill just stick with that
>>12195445Looks really cool>>12195592Let's not blame every single fuckup on Chopblock ffs, the assets for the true bfg replacement are all there in the decorate weapon pack - it's just that nobody ported them to mbf21/dsdhacked, how the fuck is that his fault?>projects should have the assets done BEFORE mapping beginsMost of them were, the first asset pack was mostly done with a ready pallete swap, textures, ps1doom sounds with regular doom weapon sprites and all the enemies(except gremlins of course but that was phase 2 which was not intended in the first place). It was other anons that wanted to expand it with more stuff>>12193745Late for SSS (unless you live on Baker Island) - not much progress but I finished the bathrooms"Your average men's shithouse is a fuckin sewer. You look at ladies' johns, you could eat maple walnut ice cream from the toilets."
>>12192974Doomsday 1.13 from 2013. That was the first sourceport I used funnily enough. Didn't use any of the model replacements but I did like all the graphical improvements. The feature I liked the most was the ability to show you where the keys were on the map cause I suck at finding them.Launching it now, it looks horrible with the texture filtering and everything.
Is there a way to view the whole weapon sprite without having to shrink the HUD?
AAAAAAAAAAAA WHERE DO I GOOO
>>12195337Sam's got Serious Damage which is quad damage by another name. Besides, check these arms. It's in the bag.
>>12195669i got the fucking automap and i still can't find where to go, there's no blue door anywherethis is my least favorite doom map so far
>>12195674o wait i found the blue door but ive already been through there and theres nothing pogg
>>12195674Ganbatte, anon-kun!
>>12195674weird this port doesn't highlight the colored doorsblue door is at the north-west
>>12195678wait i missed this switch....i see nowstill fuck this map
>>12195592All Ad Mortem weapons were done a long ago, including melee sword and bfg staff. Dehacked conversion should've been approved by Vaeros, but for some reason it never happened.>The development of SubMortem should not be beholdenYou could begin doing demo challenges, stream, host multiplayer, or doing just about anything with it now. Gameplay part is done, so I'm not even sure on what's your fervent contention lies against.>projects should have the assets done BEFORE mapping beginsCan't do an omelette without breaking some eggs, or something. I don't feel complaining with what we've currently got.
>>12195682Wait till you get to those later E3 maps. And god forbid you ever play Quake episode 4.
>>12195636That's good, but I think it'd be best to put a copy of this text description outside the wad, so people know what this is and how to load it. After that, we can politely ask ViolentBeetle to upload it to Doomworld like he did with Vertex Relocation (?) I guess nobody else here has an account. >>12195684>All Ad Mortem weapons were done a long ago, including melee sword and bfg staffLink?
>>12195504>playing with Brutal Pack v10.4ew
>>12195504That's interesting. I'd never heard of this until now, is it an offshoot of PB? Similar animations and feel.
>>12195689It was part of the news post for a while https://files.catbox.moe/ihv4l4.zip
>PB all items and enemies equal weight randomization>First map triple rotary minigun and quad shotgunIt's gaming time.
Isn't this guy in GMOTA?
Well, that didn't take as long this time. But>rifle now burstfires before becoming automatic if you hold it like Echidna's autoshotgunsCan't say I'm a fan of that. Like I kinda get wanting to differentiate weapons so they don't all do the same exact thing but ehhh. Do not like burstfire.
>>12195737wat dis
>>12195636Doing preparations for wadbooru, gotta take some screenies
>>12195739https://skelegant.itch.io/pvt-stone
>>12195732He is not. That's probably for the best because he's a cheating bastard with his entourage of skeletons with extra HP and his undodgable magic.His death animation rules, however.>>12195739A silly borderline in-joke from Pvt Stone, though I guess it's not that much of in-joke, Yholl and I butt heads all the time.
>>12195737Martlet?
>>12195742>>12195743Very cool. The super shotgun doesn't do much for me, ditto the minigun replacement, but I acknowledge these things are just my changing tastes with age. Everything about it is cool.Tried Genocidal Echidna too. OP weapon mod, needs something like Colorful Hell to balance it.
>>12195759Play it with slaughtermaps, my guy. Here are some I played with it and liked.>Meat Machine>Sunder (at least until map 12 or whatever)>Bleak>Tetraptykon>>12195737Funny thing, i tossed that suggestion and it happened. Oops.
Also what the fuck is this thing.>>12195759Oh yeah. Echidna is the anti-high enemy count character. I also like her with BD enemies but that's after all my tinkering.
>>12195770It's easy enough to change back, so not a big deal.
>>12195771Oh, that's Smams.Hold the Smams.Cherish the Smams.Forfeit all worldly possessions to the Smams.
>>12195673>check these armsMaybe he can beat the Ranger.Maybe.
>>12195337>His steroids quadruple his damageWtf I never knew that, I thought it just makes you go fast.
>>12195467>How's part 2 called?there's no part 2, it's one map. I made another one though, this time part of future episode, called Locked and Loaded
>>12195807steroids also give you immunity to shrinker and will unshrink you if you are small. Good for fighting against Protector Drones
>>12195903Winners do drugs.
>>12195707Which sourceport are you using that's giving you the colored lighting and screen shake on weapons? Nugget? Retarded question but haven't played since PrBoom+ was commonly used
>>12195971GZDoom
>>12195971Those weapons are Decorate-based so it's probably either GzDoom or UzDoom.
Playing last map of duke hard. I'm supposed to crouch under these wires to get to a switch but I don't fit in there... wtfPeople on youtube can do that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYm4SN9rkbA&t=172s
>>12196016I think it's some physics change in newer versions of EDuke32. I had the same issue when I played the mapset recently, you can squeeze under it if you try jumping at it.
I feel like the molotov should be its own actor. I tried giving its A_Explodes fire damage but the thing just gibs on direct hit or the initial explosion because it's based off the normal grenade which has Explosive damage.
>Finished Hard ResetOh. That's it? Yeah, I understand why people were saying it's rushed now.>Start working on the lower levels>Ahh. Haunts! And my wife apologized over the radio, I better run away for no reason even though I've been haunted by her in creepier ways earlierI was expecting the final boss to be the woman in the red dress who was in the background Gman style for most maps, but nope, we fight some mutant guy and that's it.I'm not that disappointed, it's just a spin off/expansion, but I wish the final map wasn't so rushed.
>>12196025It's a bit weird in general, the other two grenade override devices don't use blue bar charge while it does because it's going about shit in a different way for reasons I'm not sure why.I'm also thinking of scrapping the drops of them on shotguns and chainguns and instead making them occasionally drop with backpacks or from bigger ammo boxes. Shit feels way too common right now.
Anyone know what might be causing Sub Mortem to look like this in GZDoom? All of my other mods look fine.
>>12196038Run it on top of Ad Mortem, dummy.
>>12196030everything after Junction gets messy. >Outskirtsokay map, weird spooky section in sewer that doesn't work. Felt like someone out of the team really liked spooky sections in Afterglow but couldn't capture what made them great. Wendigos suck and just a recolour of basic cannibal with more HP, same with empties from school map but those can crawl and have radioactive version. After spooky section you just fight mutants in silence, also the music track was reused and it's a very short one.>CordonI like it but it's flawed. The boss is terrible, soldiers are dumb, try triggering the shootout and they won't react to half of the enemy squad.>Subway mapStarts off great, turns to shit once you reach the final station. Shitty FNAF reference, Gladiators are another cannibal recolour. Arena was lacking and section of the city leading up to the mall looks weird as fuck if you run around looking at it more.>Mall Is great but worm reveal was underwhelming. It's another cannibal reskin! They should've possessed corpses of other enemies>Citynot as memorable as one from 2063 or as bit and atmospheric as The Gap in Afterglow. Felt like dev ran out of city ideas.>Hard ResetI fuckin hate this map, I was waiting for something cool for years when this was in the works and we got fuckin nothing. The boss fight is great though.There's much more issues going on around this expansion. It was rushed and released raw. I was disappointed when it came out
>>12196046>as bit and atmosphericas big*
>>12196042Whoops, I didn't know you had to do that. Thanks.
>>12196046I liked Hard Reset up until that utter handwave of an ending>OH YEAH, WALKER GOT FREAKED OUT BY GHOSTS AFTER SEEING THEM THE ENTIRE EXPANSION ANYWAY AND RAN AWAY. ALSO HE FOUGHT AN INCONSEQUENTIAL MUTANT ON BEHEST OF A PSYCHIC FRIENDLY MUTANT BECAUSE SHE WANTED HIM TO PULL SCAV OUT OF SOME RUBBLE IN THREE YEARS OKAY THANKS BYEIt was a cool expansion with cool ideas but they had no idea how to end it. Why bother with the black water? It did fuck all to help in the end, I really hope this isn't a sign for how part three will end up because so far Ashes has been superior to most modern releases outside of that final map.
>>12196054Hard Reset has the ingredients for something amazing and thats why I'm so disappointed. It's narrative prequel but it does nothing with it. It has brand new arsenal I like a lot but there's nothing interesting in the enemy roster to counter it. So much stuff it brings up is either underwhelming wet fart or just forgotten. The Walker, his wife, Black Water and the gang related to it, that witch girl with big boobs, the army and the spire. Wtf was the problem of mutant boss? The maps are similar thing, the places you explore are interesting but level design didn't impress me like other games in series did.It could've been my favourite but It's unfinished mess
>>12196036The nuke does use charge, it's only the particles that don't.> it's going about shit in a different way for reasons I'm not sure whySkelegant probably didn't wanna add another state to all the weapons for them. Think I'm just gonna try doing it myself.>spawnsI was thinking of doing the same at least for the bombshells. Even with the charge use, they're OP as fuck.
>>12196069Looks like they changed her, since she looks less... anime in the version I played.
>>12196084Yeah there's a mod to switch it back as well
>>12196079>The nuke does use chargeHuh, I got it to not do that the last time, fuck knows how.>Skelegant probably didn't wanna add another state to all the weapons for them.I'd wondered about why they didn't do a base weapon to at least condense the identical stuff.
>>12196084yeah the devs did it because it was standing out too much. I don't like voice acting and portraits at all but it looks like they are to stay for ep3. Lame
so will uzdoom eventually support lilith.pk3?
>>12196086I'd say the new version fits better. She says something about her appearance being frightening to humans, and yet her original form looks like something you'd see on an /a/ waifu thread. At least this version seems slightly more mutanty.Either way, I might finally stop avoiding Dead Man Walking now, since I really liked Ashes and more content is always good.
>>12196101No, it can't any more than GZDoom couldn't, there's not even any point in trying.
>>12196096Yeah, the portraits/VA didn't grow on me at all. I liked the text dialogue a lot more but if that's what the dev wants to do then so be it. I just hope episode 3 is better than Hard Reset, because the plot twists at the end of episode 2 have potential to be great, but they also can easily be fumbled.
>>12196121we'll see. The team been slightly expanded again and they also add new features like locational damage or enemies getting scared when low on morale. I hope it's good, I loved Afterglow and it's hub system approach
>>12196105You could infer that she's using psionics to make her self look pretty to Walker, which makes his idealised waifu being all anime-y humorous
>>12195903>steroids also give you immunity to shrinker and will unshrink you if you are smallWHAT
>>12196185bet you also didn't know that when placing tripmines you 'reset' your fall, allowing you to survive a big drop if you time it right
>>12196191
>>12196185>steroids PREVENTING shrinkageWild, huh? They also basically berserk powers your kicks for their duration, though I rarely got that use out of them because it's difficult and fiddly to move well when you're so sped up. To me anyway.
Finished overhauling the molotovs, mostly, I just have one last thing to do.>>12196093I figured it out. The nuke doesn't actually need meter to be thrown as it is, but it takes all your meter. I think the nuke and the molotov need a check in their states for meter and to redirect to the stone throw if you're not full.
>>12196221Wait, I'm almost positive I could do this. I think I did it in another mod.TNT1 A 0 A_Jumpifinventory("BG_Stone_Charge",10,"AltFire_2")What do I do to that to have it behave "if you have less than 10, go to this"? I can't check the zdoom wiki, that's down for me.
>>12196191Funny thing, AMC squad used that gimmick in one of its maps for a secret
>>12195337>He's also can't punch demons to death.He can axe them to deathAlso, Sam has Serious Damage.
>>12196236>What do I do to that to have it behave "if you have less than 10, go to this"? I can't check the zdoom wiki, that's down for me.It only handles positive numbers so have a jump for 10 and then straight after that whatever for less than 10.
>>12196291I mean I'm pretty sure I can have it read "less than" 10 in that very line. I just can't remember the symbol(s) to use and I keep getting errors.
I made a post a thread or so ago about how I can't figure out why the most recent verison of DS errors out for me with almost any one of the DS addons. I'm using DoomRunner 1.9.1 with GZDoom 4.14.2, I have Deathstrider (11/19/2025) itself loaded first, then the addons for DS after and nothing else, loaded with Doom 2. The pic is what it spits out. I know other anons haven't been having issues so it must be something I'm doing, but what? Is UZDoom 4.15 mandatory for it now? Or maybe a setting in GZDoom itself I accidentally ticked? Sorry if it's something obvious and I'm dumb. I still only get the Kodiak, Spike Driver, weapon-select, and wraithhands to work with it. I also seperately tried it with non-DS addons like flashlight++, liveReverb, project_malice, and just Deathstrider which it still works fine with. Just won't accept most of the DS addons for me.
>>12195704It seems to have started as a branch of the regular Brutal Doomthis is the oldest video I can find, form 9 years ago:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40Ma61yO0FE
I love Doom.
>Dead Man WalkingThis sucks. Not the game, I'm having a good time even if I'm not sure if this is canon or not, but the fact that once I'm done with this short fan episode Ashes is complete and I'm stuck with everyone else waiting for Episode 3.
>>12196327Wait. I just realized I'm an idiot and all I needed to do was move the jumps checking for bombshell and molotov ammo to the start of the state that actually throws the grenades. I should have noticed this before because that state already checks for bombshell ammo, it just wasn't working because it was in the main Zoom state too.
>>12196381You can still replay the sterilized maps with gameplay mods.
>>12196345looks like you need to update DAX and P90, nothing super crazyif you have the AceCorp launcher and git installed you can link em together to auto update anything youve git cloned
>>12194807Left is better.
>>12196410Is the auto-updater on the DS page, the AceCorp addon page or somewhere else? Also thank you.
>>12196410>>12196426Nevermind, I found it.
>>12195771Dislike how buff this newer version of her is. The earlier one hit the balance right imo
>>12195704>>12196358Got an answer from the guy:>It actually started as a small sound mod for Brutal Doom called Brutal Weapon Sound Pack>Brutal Weapon Sound Pack! (Discontinued) addon - ModDB https://share.google/NNx2k8s4UBDFALnmA>Eventually with the help of Quaker, who is the creator of this submod for Brutal Doom >Quaker540's Sub-mod v10a addon - Doom - ModDB https://share.google/4Eoi5MRUI5YohaiNo>Brutal Pack inherited the base of that mod and started to get its own unique stuff overtime from a lot of awesome creators from different projects to be what it is now. >It's been quite a long time, but makes me happy to have you all still playing!
>>12196381>this is canon or notone of the guys in Afterglow mentions the events of DMW. It's absolutely canon
>>12196496Yeah the developer liked it so much it got added in and they now work together, shit's about as unambiguous as it gets.
>>12196506that guy also worked on Selaco. Not a fan of that game but happy he got that big
>>12196509I'd be more ok with Selaco if they hadn't been pushing the F.E.A.R-alike crap hard enough to make people just fucking believe it.
>>12196517Any sort of intelligence upgrade to basic shooter enemy behavior feels like rocket science to the majority of the "retro shooter" crowd.
>>12196517What gets me the most is the absolute gall to call it a FEAR-alike with no bullet time
>>12196517>"""FEAR AI""">FUCK SHIT ASS SHE'S TAKING COVER I'M FLANKING LEFT BLOODY BITCH BASTARD>gets stuck between a column and a railing and runs in place for 5 minutes>WHERE THE FUCK DID SHE GO???So dumb it almost makes the blatant Ion Fury main character knockoff seem like an accident.>>12196532The irony is that 99% of these indie 'retro shooters' have worse AI than Doom and Quake.
>>12196536I got to a point where I see if I could get through the game ignoring it, then I'd actively look for online lobbies without it.>>12196539>The irony is that 99% of these indie 'retro shooters' have worse AI than Doom and Quake.Then they'll get filtered by Unreal's enemy behavior. I also question how many get through FEAR paying as much attention to how the enemies behave compared to the shooting and slo-mo spectacle.
>>12196546>Unreal's enemy behaviorno joke one of the hardest motherfuckers in fps. These niggas even play dead to bait you
>>12196536Yeah they made a big thing of adding steam workshop support so that bullet time x mod could be added there even though it's just a basic ass GZDoom mod.
>>12196539>The irony is that 99% of these indie 'retro shooters' have worse AI than Doom and Quake.Man Strafe got whored out so fucking hard and all it had was projectile spam and run straight at the player for contact damage AI.So much of that shit is claiming to be retro-inspired and shoving game names on their store pages instead of learning from what retro games got right.
>Look it up>Only four levels (including the short hub)>Already on the last oneOh well, I'll save this for tomorrow.
>>12195704Carrot did some sprites for BP and a few animationsikdfa also did some animations for BP if i remember correctly?both worked on PB and some other BD spinoffs prior
>>12196561Moros Protocol felt like it scratched the itch that Strafe gave me and refused to scratch
>>12190193Seeing Total Chaos getting a remake had me thinking: is there any Doom wads or Quake community expansions with the same quality?
>>12195771cute is what it is
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