New thread Greatest DLC of all time?
you didn't put the edition and thread number in the OP, sister
Heavy Duty is better.
>>3657636LmaoHD is a cash grab
expedition was a slog
Is pure TM dom viable?
xbows r fun but poison bolts seem meh outside of crawler bolts
best jetski?
>>3658183Never need another one once you have the Aegis patroller. Devastator is fun tho.
>>3657637It's not as expansive but the heavy weapons are cool.
>>3657651Just bring grenades and traps, duh. Congratulations, you've beat le dominating!
>>3658571I said pure TM. That means only TM
>>3658597If we were talking TM as it was when Expedition released, I'd say yes. As it is now, I'd still say probably, but you'd have to rely on stealth and be very selective in what you fight. I don't think it would be fun.
Is there a guide for oddity? I've only ever played classic but going to try oddity now
game feels like it was made to pad out playtime from subpar map(inb4 there was no map initially) to whole merchant restock/I don't feel like buying anything today so just make do with what you haveI fear my patience will just run out at one point before I finish the game
>>3658869>inb4 there was no map initiallySpeaking of. It's been many years since it was added and I'm curious. How many here don't use the mini-map?
>>3657728they're all meh, yeahelemental bolts are just too good>>3658183torpedo for melee/psionics, leviator for guns imoI like the shark for middle ground
>>3658601>rely on stealthWhat part of only TM do you not understand?
>>3658925I to this day use an external flowchart map someone made years and years ago for the map.
Best mt spear build coming through
>>3659856noits possibly good on builds that do high single-target damage as a way to do even more damage with one attack (snipe, aimed shot, impale, super slam, etc)but for that you'd need to have the cost be low, via tranquility or premedyou can break rocks with it by casting implosion then recurrance
>>3659896Yeah, Recurrence is pretty much for times when your Snipe, crit etc for whatever reason couldn't stick the landing. Then it finishes the job for you for dirt cheap.
Can I get a guide for hammer build?
>>366016210 STR10 CONMax out meleeEverything else depends how you want to build your hammerfagYou can ask here for guidance, for my guides are hideously out of date
>>3660162here, go get filtered
>>3657615Who else never dumps INT?My character may be blind, slow, and only barely strong enough to hold a rifle, but by god I'm not playing an idiot.
>>36601845 is the minimum for me.Giving up the lemurian engineer suit and the new technomedic exo is too many skill points down the drain for my taste. It was enough to play 3 INT once, never again.
FIrst time playing grenade launcher on DOM,how do i kill high evasion bosses(magnar,carnifex)?Tricky trajectory doesnt cut it,flashbangs and nets work only for 1 turnBear traps and acid blob pistols might work?
>>3658869>game feels like it was made to pad out playtimeIt is.
Any build that relies on Super Steel is a humiliation ritual.
>>3663661So just nimble canOr literally all builds because all builds will get some use of SS or SS Fiber to infuse leathers with.
>>3663661Super steel metal armour is so fucking ugly compared to regular metal.
>>3663675Psi doesn't care that much about infused leathers. Not because they can't use the utility, because they can just delete everyone before it matters.
>>3657651of course it is. a fucking crowbar is dom viable.
>>3658869yes, time spent is a major opportunity cost, even more so in underrail 2, so better get used to it.
>>3659613>harpermemebuildwhy not come back to the official discord, you'd get more of the attention you crave there. could homo ERP with buttface!
AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I NEED INFUSIONHURRY THE FUCK UP STYG AT THIS RATE FUCKING HALF LIFE 3 WILL ACTUALLY COME OUT FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!
>>3663736i hope underrail 2 has a UI suited for 4k resolutions and lets you play in borderless fullscreen without scaling the window size down
>>3663736too bad you can circumvent all the bullshit easily
>>3660181what's even the point with these shitty builds. you know better than that, you've played the game enough. they're not even memey. just adequate builds made worse for no reason.
>>3663741An infusion of what?
Is there a mod that makes psi fun again after getting nerfed into the ground by the dev?
>>3663749anon, youre just an idiotyour language is incomplete; I couldnt explain it to you even if I wanted to (I dont)
>>3663756Roll back to an earlier version.
Daily reminder that Vera is the only counselor that cares about SGS at all.Hadrian is a fucking alien and Gorsky fucks off to core city to play gangster at the earliest opportunity.
>>3663781Her romance route is great. Heavy persuasion investment, though.
>>3663759>i was merely pretending to be retarded
>>3663794you were pretty convincing>>3663781she cares about the UNanyway jonas and probably even ezra do care though
>>3663801Jonas and Ezra aren't counselors though.
>>3663809they're on the council or somethingtheres a couple times where hadrian/vera are like "we better assemble the counselors/council" though I dont remember the exact term used
>>3663818>assemble the council to discuss the alliance with the Black Eels>Ezra just stares at the wall through the whole thingWhy even show up.
>>3663826he only stares at the wall when gorsky says biocorp will kill them
>>3663830>are biocorp in the room with us right now?
>>3663836the UN is
>>3663836Ezra is Biocorp top brass
>>3663859no, why don't you ask that doppelganger of his?
>>3663781Don't shit on Tanner. He took war criminals, assassins, bandits, and forged them into the safest, strongest station in the south that everyone wants to cooperate with.
>>3663826be nice, he has autism
>>3663859Let's be real, it's the New Biocorp guys who are in danger from the Protectorate. For Ezra it's just an inconvenience, assuming he has greater goals than being retired and managing SGS's firewalls.
>>3663781Tanner and Gorsky are the only reason SGS exists at all. Vera is a pencil pusher that's trying to sell what other people fought for to the protectorate.
I don't get the story of Omegagame paints them as something comparable to SGS yet they don't have that much in terms of territory or base sizeat also seemed like they were there first before tanner and his friends arrived
>>3664423How much territory does SGS even have? It's not much.
>>3664423SGS and Omega were kinda just there before Tanner arrived, neither of them was anything special. And most of the important people probably arrived after Tanner.
I wish we could ask Ezra why he decided to split from Kirill and Dr. Slavkovic after sticking together for at least like 100 years.
>>3664451He pulled too many pranks involving psi beetles and they got sick of his practical jokes after a while.
>>3664458It's a cool prank though. Was even better when it was a regular psi beetle. Sink or swim is the only proper way to teach.
>>3664423we dont get to see the interior of omega station
>>3664468GMS was just their property, wasn't it? The real entrance is not far away. A locked door with a couple of mines outside.
>>3664479There's also the waterway entrance. Omega station is pretty huge.Makes me wish for an Omega update where we get a reworked "tutorial" phase with more variety of missions before the game opens up. Maybe even an alternative to Depot A too.
>>3664479There's also the Omega Pass, so the territory they controlled was at least comparable to SGS. No way to get inside from that entrance either, of course.
>>3663992All aliens must die
>>3664296And yet Tanner and Gorsky betrayed and abandoned SGS while Vera didn't
>>3664522If you call not wanting to interact with Six a betrayal then sure. Tanner kept the station together and only following in his footsteps doesn't lead to an exodus of SGS citizens.
>>3664451How about Ezra and Dude? Are they aware of each other?
>>3664529Everyone knows that Vera and Dude are fucking.
How to stop my restartitis?
>>3664528>terrorists bomb an embassy of a SGS trade partner located on the other side of the river>surely nothing bad will happen in the following months!If only that nigger gorsky (head of security btw) didn't leave when the area near SGS is under threat from northern terrorists.
Thoughts on my meme mobility hammer build?https://underrail.info/build/?Hg8DCgYDAwYAAADCoCgAwqBYWQBHaWxTU04ALQBHAABSKyQ5GS0SEyrCh0dBUHzCtsKm374
>>3664540
>>3664529Don't seem to be, no.Dude may have had a run in with one of the ayys and somehow also ended up developing the cybernetic spawns for Oculus, but that's it.
>>3664534Play a different game then come back in a year.
>>3664479its not locked, its unpowered>>3664496theres also the gate at the raider camp under gmsthree gates, with what might be a wall on one of the waterway maps
>>3664555>with what might be a wall on one of the waterway mapsAnd a wall in that useless crawler infested cave north of the outposts in the lower caves.
>>3664563hmmI remember a fence and a propane tank or somethingbut regardless that is south of the raider camp entrance, which goes north, so I doubt it
>>3664555Nice attention-to-detail.
>>3664572Ah yes, must be part of GMS and not Omega proper.
the amount of hammer discussion here is funny because no one actually thinks hammers are good weapons, they just like the aesthetic of being a heavily armored melee user.
>>3664732Players are free to discuss whatever they want.
>>3664732In theory hammers go much better with heavy armour (not nimblecan) than any of the other weapons, because of Heavyweight or being able to combo Juggernaut + sturdy vest + Super Slam.In practice they're shit no matter what. All the downsides of a sniper rifle without any of the upsides of any weapon type.
>>3664535At the end of the day all comes down to the player. Only the player can ensure that SGS gets integrated on reasonably not-shit terms, or that the status quo is maintained, or that the anti-Protectorate movement gains momentum. But even out of these three anti-Protectorate is easily the most finicky to achieve well because you NEED a strong Foundry AND a strong Silver Hand AND a strong Free Drones AND a strong Grim Jetters. So in essence, if you want a successful resistance it is essential that Gorsky leaves SGS so you can have an ally in the Core.
>>3664817Funny how to be truly anti-protectorate, you need to unite all the stations to protectorate yourselves.
>>3664827That isn't really the case. You are not repeating what Melek did, there's no unified army you conquer the South with. What you do is in a way much worse, because in order to keep the Protectorate out you have to:>sacrifice Rail Crossing>plunge Core City into another civil war>destroy safe waterborne transport in the regionAnd toss in starting a gang war in Junkyard (later double-crossing your ally) for the best outcome. It's dirty business, classic omelette and eggs, so the question comes up if if's really worth it. Nevertheless doing literally anything else makes the long-term victory of Protectorate a foregone conclusion.
>>3664732Hammertime is a cultural treasure
>>3664732I like the hammer. I don't like repeatedly missing 95% chances to hit when I only get 2 attacks per turn.
>Failed to load the saved game.>Error: Failed to load bulk storage from 'C:\users\steamuser\Documents\My Games\Underrail\Saves\save'FUCKSo I'll have to start from scratch if I want to play on the Deck?
>>3664878Okay nevermind, something went horribly wrong with Steam Cloud. All the save folders had the screenshot and all the chunk.dats missing. Bringing them over on a flash drive solved it. Phew.
>>3664743if theyre shit then everything is still pretty goodbecause ive played through the game with non-psi hammercans a couple times and other than having to change armors for a few types of enemies and having a hard time with lunatic psychopaths, its not bad
If we do get anymore new slight update tweaks what else should be adjusted.I honestly wish shives got scaling based on the spikes you used. though only get their upper damage increased they can still do 1 damage for their min base
>>3665099Shivs are insanely OP super early on, if you can somehow find one in a trash can.
fucking northerners taking baths and sheit, brushin dey teethfuck dem northies, i'll never let em have the south
what's on the surface?
>>3665114Empty space as far as the eye can see.
>>3665114There is no surface. It's a myth. There's just more rails all the way up.
Is Gunfu a meme?
>>3665137Not at all.
>>3665137Dunno, I loved it.
>>3665137Seems like a great way to save on perception.
>>3665137You already want to use firearm pistols in close range for the 40% evasion reduction, so if you're playing with versatility there's no reason not to go for Gun-Fu.If you aren't, don't bother to put points in melee just for that. It's not worth it and a complete meme in that case.
what would be the most busted feat choice with all the skills and base abilities maxed via cheat engine?kind of bored with the game but unable to move on
>>3665151>>3665146>>3665143>>3665140What about Gunfu + Bullet time?
>>3665352They do different things. I wouldn't suggest a firearm pistol build without Bullet Time but Gun-Fu can (or should) be skipped depending on the exact build.
>>3665352bro, cmon
>>3665190locus of control, juggernaut, spec-ops+full auto, sprint, quick tinkering, TM feats and crit feats
>>3665190PK monk is stat-starved so it benefits from the cheated 3 offensive stats, especially with corporeal projectionYou might as well cheat your feat points and get all of them. Imagine a 2-3 school psionic spear build with several full racks of abilities, stoicism, conditioning, survival instincts, locus, and an LMG with every feat for it on his 2nd slot, and my OC donut steel can re-equip every different weapon and use it's ultimate
>>3665352>PK monk is stat-starved so it benefits from the cheated 3 offensive statsIt's funny how every PSI Monk you encounter in the game has good STR, DEX, AGI, CON, AND WIL.
>>3664540dump con. go for max strength and MP with rathound regalia + tabis + rathound BBQ. Glass cannon hammer is super fun. >>3664732humans will always naturally gravitate towards the satisfaction of smashing shit with a big club. it's in our nature.
>>3665382meant for >>3665375
>>3665356huh?
clean it up janny
Is it possible (w cheat engine and all) to kill every npc you can encounter in a run (I'm aware of the two you most certainly can't)? I've looked for answers before and couldn't find anything. I'm willing to do a full Underrail genocide and record the results
>>3665542You can, but what's the point? It isn't acknowledged and if you don't pay attention you'll break the main quest.
>>3664423I'm more surprised that we never really meet any former Omega citizens. Gorsky said the survivors scattered so there should be some around.
>>3665816They all changed their name to 'Bandit'.
>>3665841Mmm. Aren't 'Bandit's rather rare? Gorsky did a good job.
>>3665517Weak bluff, Tanner. You and I both know you can't afford to kick me out.
Give me a pure boxing gloves build for funsies.
>>3665816>>3665841yeahI suspect mlan ratula was one
>>3665873what did you do?
>>3666048Steal Ethan's medallion and provoke a fight before he leaves SGS.
>>3666048there is a temporal manipulation trainer at SGS cantina, you can provoke him with speech checkguy starts aging rapidly and he is in full flight or fight mode because of special necklace he has, there is supposed unique dialogue if you just pickpocket it, didn't trigger for me
>>3666048Not killing him on the other hand results in this gem.>>3666052You have to leave the area for a bit, it should trigger when you come back. But I couldn't get Gorsky to chimp out for me like >>3665517 no matter how much of an asshole I act about the whole thing. I love the reactions otherwise. Ezra just stares, Lucas finds it hilarious, Pascal is more excited about psi being awesome than you killing a visitor, Vera worries about this turning into a PR disaster.
>>3666045He does complain that SGS already controls everything.
>>3666059I had no idea this was a thingto even have that level of pickpocket before the drill parts is kinda crazy
>>3666068It is, this was the first time I managed to pull this off and I went in with 12 dex. This is not something you are ever likely to see. Once you hand in the drill part it's ogre.
How do I do natives and jet fights as melee
>>3666052>>3666059Great easter egg.
I'm doing Normal run, but if I want to unveil some lore, what build should I focus on?
>>3666409speech, intimidation, lockpicking, hackingbut mostly PSI / Willpower
>>3666409High int high will quad psi hackerman will get you 90% of the lore.
>Coral spawned instead of Boothit's over
>>3666427
>>366640911+ int14+ will11+ effective per (spec snooping)high tc/hacking/persuasion/intimidate/stealth/pickpocket; I cant think of anything locked behind lockpicking (pun) but it'd be foolish not to take itjoin praetoriansaegis and pirates have mutually exclusive loredont kill exo soldiersyou dont need to be quad psi; having one school and wearing items that boost your other psi schools is enough for those checks
>>3666439>you dont need to be quad psiEvery Mainframe vision is locked behind one of the psi schools.
>>3666444Disregard that, i can't read. I had no idea you could get high enough with items alone.
grandma is really enjoying that strawberry jam
>>3666444>>3666447>equip the psionic transceiver>make noise near the mainframe>+??? psi skill>profit!
>>3666619Right, right. But does that have a guaranteed drop? There will be much less lunatics on normal.That said, it's kind of a waste to have will that high and not make full use of it. Not sure I like this level of extreme lore minmaxing.
>>3666625Not sure if there are guaranteed drops, but eventually you should be able to find at least a poor quality one. And considering the amount of psionics near the mainframe even the lowest quality is enough.>That said, it's kind of a waste to have will that high and not make full use of it.I'm not that anon who wrote those numbers, but the very high checks are extremely rare and you could prep for it. Getting to at least 10 Will is always a good choice since it gets you LoC, going for more will help you scale your wizardry powers a bit higher.That said I wouldn't try to get ALL the secrets on a single run. First off because you can't anyway due to faction content, but secondly because you'll have to stretch yourself thin and when you have little room for creativity in your build it gets boring.
Is it worth it to put 45 points in TK for the two lightning spells?Specifically a melee sword guy? I've got some points left over now that I have 70 TM.
>>3658925I only use the map if I'm specifically looking for something like a unique item for my build.
>>3666637Yes, you want to remove enemy chance to dodge attacks. Better yet if it's something they can't resist like TK Grounding.EK Imprint is good utility against crawlers regardless of build.
>>3660181>>3663749I don't know enough about the game to understand why the build is good or badsomeone explain to someone with 3 int IRL please
>>3660184min int is 7 for meI'm not giving up on disassemble.
>>3666641Nice, thanks.
>>3666642its the optimal non-psi hammer buildhttps://stygiansoftware.com/forums/index.php?topic=10715.0
>>3666655looks interesting, thanks for the link.
Why is it that half of the time vanishing powder grenades simply don't work? Like it won't even put me in stealth.
>>3666667You need to have enough action points left over after paying the AP cost of the grenade itself to use the stealth action. It just activates that action instead of having it baked in.
>>3666667You need to consider the AP to enter stealth too.So 10 AP (item) + 10 AP (stealth) = 20 AP
>>3666670>>3666671Ah. The description really should have made that more clear. Thanks.
>trying to find the ironhead claymore guy>somehow walk from rail crossing back to GMS compound without ever seeing themfugthis map isn't helpful at all
>>3666689>ironhead claymore guy>rail crossingAnon...
>>3666691In my mind I remember it being close to itthis is what I get for not looking up the wiki and just trying to go by my memory
>>3666693>take train to foundry>east, east, southIt's that easy.The map is completely unneeded for traversing that area.
>>3666702wtf it's close to foundry?Man I was remembering the area completely wrong.Thanks for the directions
>>3666702>>3666705I found the claymore guy!He killed me thoIt's what I get for not entering turn based before opening every door
>>3666759>>3666705>>3666702lel
>Kharon invokes Plasma BeamOf fucking course he does. In hindsight I should have seen that coming. I should have, but--
I could really use some advice here. Almost 2k HP, +97 psi regen, and three attacks that each can one-shot me without morphine, and fucker has premed. Best I could do so far was mutually assured destruction.
>>3666838win initblob him to the groundrun in and out of the room to attackget crits
>>3666845>blob him to the groundWhat? The acid spray can't entangle.
ok falling into a pit and being devoured by hungry pitbulls is not how I expected my first death to go.
>>3666852>Cohesive Mucus Glands is a special feat that cannot be acquired when leveling up.
>>3666855...I may have forgot to mention that I'm trying to do him in before entering the lab. I know. It's retarded. I know, okay?
underrail protagonist is canonically an isekai tier hero that's weak but has a cheat power in the form of save states.
>>3666858Implying Six didn't get a "With this character's death..." warning a couple hundred times during this event.
After much savescumming he is finally dead. This wasn't really anything to be proud of, but eh, I'll take it. And well, guess this is a total dead end so I'll have to reload and do this properly anyway.
>>3666854northern underpassages?surprised you got that far
>>3666862He obviously didn't because I flashbanged the fucker and he ran away like a little bitch.Six is lucky that the rules of this universe don't allow me to kill him anymore or I would laugh at his corpse every single time.
>>3666874probably would have went a lot smoother if you pressed your shooting spree button
After getting frustrated with the Sonocaster when trying to break rocks with 0 skill, I realized that the game bugs out if you start an attack with something you're good with (melee in my case) and then quickly swap into the Sonocaster before the attack animation completes. Not only you get the 95% to hit instead of 70%, but its damage scales high enough to oneshot (instead of merely two-shot) rocks.
>>3666878Yeah, tincan with some great luck while buying plates from blaine.>get shock bolt to the face turn 1>ambushed and attacked by 5 lurkers for 2 turns in a row>survive and kill them all thx to the power of 4 tungsten plates strapped to a yellow vest>fall in pit with like 4 doggies>get murdered brutallywhy are dogs so powerful
>>3666892Sprrrragh...? Pew pew?
Infusion status?
>>3666896kek>>3666894its just pitbullsits pretty stupidHOWEVERthere is at least one breed irl that are monstersthey look more like alligators than dogs; bully XLs
>>3666912personally i prefer my bullies SMASHED and SLAMMED
I went up here a few playtroughs ago and found nothing interesting besides a ton of deathcrawlers.Is there anything interesting up there like a unique item or a Psionic Mentor or rare material?Cause I'm already maxed out on xp from oddities dropped by crawlers.
>>3666930its a guaranteed spot to get a certain blueprint, theres a boss, and a unique oddity
>>3666933All right I guess I'll return after killing those anarchist losers that stole the train.
>>3666955ew, a zogbotkys, race traitor
Why is the Thumper so fucking OP>available DURING depot A>literally just walk up and grab it>no crafting required>no str requirement>only two (optional) feats>makes HE/Frags obsolete>stronger and faster than high quality launchers>literally only a few hundred for massive upgrade
>>3666957>race traitorWhat race is the "lost" leader of the Drones, again?
>>3667031>>makes HE/Frags obsolete>not using hand grenades when you can't reload and shoot the thumper again
>>3667032he has a cheeki name, but slavs count as whiteit wouldnt matter anyway; you'd still be serving the best interests of your people
>>3666957The protectorate is closer to a right wing death squad than a zog army.They literally have a squad of soldiers that wear skull masks and go around gassing revolutionaries.
>shitflinging over the two worst factions
I sided with black eels in Junkyard , what would happen if I side with Scrappers instead, will the waterway black eels turn on me or are they separate faction?
>>3667110Wouldn't matter. Land and river Eels are separate factions gameplay-wise, but Eddy doesn't want war to begin with. He just wants to keep the Eels out of Depot A.
>>3667049right wing death squads are for fixing countries that have succumbed to jewrot, not enforcing jewrot especially not on other countries
>>3666957>race traitor>some random losers steal a train from the ally of my current station>I'm supposed to just let them get away with it for some reasonI'm no cuck.
>click on "play underrail" in evelyns house>the rest of the game is acually your character playing the game>nothing you accomplish is real>once you finish your character just leaves her house
which of the 3 companies in Core City should I choose?Twitter, NEON CITY CYBERPUNK 2077 or discount Helghast?I mostly use my fists
uhhhthis is a timed quest rightcause I don't think I can kill this many fuckersmy sword ran out of durability mid fight lolI had to equip a hammer some guy dropped mid-fight
>>3667305I joined the praetorians once. It was awful. My dude kept having to salute and say, "sir, yes, sir!"
>>3667307it took 20 grenades, 20 psi-boosters, the lives of saban and dan and 30 real life minutesbut victory was achieved.
>>3667317Rip Saban and Dan. Remember the good old days when you could reverse pickpocket all the ammo they could ever need and some more on them.
>>3667305The unique nades from Praetorian are kinda cool alongside dodge/evasion. I wish there was a way to avoid breathing in the gas but at least it's fast deploying.
>>3667328one of these days I should make a proper thief playtrough
after depot a, I did rail crossing, hathor and now foundryIs there any other place to go or should I go do the core city stuff?
>>3667361Head to Core City, jack. The Arena is calling.
>>3667365all righttime to be come the arena champion
>>3667307>letting saban diedisgusting. reload and do it again
>>3667405dan, not saban
>>3667228>for some reasonthe freedom of the south, yeahgo lick some boots, faggot
>>3667205right wing death squads are for purging trash from the streets, and "trash in the streets" describes almost all of south underrail
>>3667411you're not fooling anybody, tankie
>>3667412you've got some nice boots, boy
>>3667413thanks, I melted down and molded 6000 charons to make themwanna see the fragmentation grenades, neurotoxins, and 200-round capacity fully automatic minigun that I bought at a store today with no licenses?get fucked, authoritarian
>>3667405lel no way, it took too many tries already
Protectorate would be a lot more appealing if they truly were Biocorp 3.0. They don't even have technocrats, they are just a bunch of military faggots. Even that "civilized north" they like to boast about they merely inherited from Biocorp 2.0. Meanwhile all the cool guys with ambition moved to Hexagon.
What is the most fun psi ability and why is it Exothermic Auranothing like completely cucking melee fags and roof fuckers
What's in here and how do I get in?
>>3667439That's for a specific quest.
>>3667442Thought so. What about the key from the butcher? What does that open?
>>3667409>the freedom of the south>fleeing north due to terrorists seizing your weapons = freedomKEK
how do I start the the dlc content properly?I kind of just bumbled my way into pirate stronghold on a junkjet I got from camp Hathor
>>3667536>Core city docks>go east>pretend you aren't a zoner and apply for a job
>>3667439littering scum, pick up that bottle you dropped>>3667536sail north to core city
>>3667536If this is your first time and you want to do it properly, cut your losses right now and roll back to an older save. If you enter the dlc area you lock yourself out of joining the Aegis expedition, which is the lorefag way to play it. You can still complete the dlc and it's something perfectly fine when you are replaying it though.
>>3667541unfortunately my oldest save is already past the big statue at the entranceoh well
>>3667532yepcant defend yourself from local threats so you help an expansionist (((empire))) take over your lands just for a bit of safety
>>3667545That sucks. I have seriously no idea why Styg never put one of those autosaves at the entrance.
>>3667547>can't defend your land? better if most die and the rest fleesI guess the burgers should've killed themselves instead of getting help from the french
>>3667548he did>>3667552rail crossing got help from sgsthats the real reason they keep existing as a community or notanyway the french didnt conquer america or even want to, they just didnt want england to have it and get strongerin a way, they were kinda like the drones
>>3667554>rail crossing only exists thanks to SGS>therefore you (SGS citizen sent there by an SGS councilor to assist with their problem) should lie to its leader in order to weaken itYou're still not making any sense.
>>3667554>he didNo, he didn't.
>>3667559thats not what I said>>3667560yes he didwhen you enter certain areas or start certain quests in the black sea, the game makes an autosave, even if you have autosaves turned offyoure just an idiot who saved over it or deleted it
>>3667561Anon for fucks sake, buy that junk jet in Camp Hathor and sail to the Black Sea. Aegis sails past and there's no autosave before it happens. Do I seriously have to record it for you?
>>3667554doesn't look like I had any special saves from entering that part of the map (I did not overwrite it, pretty sure since I use only 2 save slots like an idiot)did arena and started gauntlet and they have their own category
>>3667564>before it happensah well thats on youthere is an autosave when you enter the black sea
Core Citythe true cosmopolitan experience
>>3667568Wrong again. The dialog box triggers and you get the intro description, but no save, zero, zilch, nada.
>>3667572you have a bug, thenreport it
>>3667574First show the save, or point me to any video that shows the game making that save.
>>3667368arena championship achieved. guess it's time to go after the acid hunters
>>3667565Join the pirates. They give less lore, but it still guides you through the dlc main quest. Find Razor near the pirate base.
>died in two flurries (hard mode)huhI remember carnifex being harder, specifically remember coming here at level 20 and still dying on the first turn until I won initdid he get nerfed?
>he didn't genocide pirates, natives and aegis
>>3667595No, the game just got easier Builds are more optimized, new weapons are all OP and there's plenty of people who have practiced the fight to give advice Be honest: are there any parts of the game you find truley challenging still?
>>3667598I find it challenging to force myself to do any map with locust hives in it. Deep Caverns too, for the same reason.
>>3667595If your writing that'll do it. If you were doing Dom before he'd might of had the health and mech resist though
>>3667632>Criting
Underrail is set in Simpsons universe
Pure PK Tranq build is going wellPeople who say Tranq isn't DOM diavle don't know what they're talking about
Is my saved borked? Some zones fail to load but most work fine. I've been swapping between devices with cloud save and Windows Defender isn't blocking it.
>>3667416>should random insane serial killers be allowed to purchase 2,000 rounds of 12mm minigun ammo and then walk down the street to the slums to massacre people where city security doesn't patrol, without a license? of course
How OP is the fusion cannon?
>>3667654>retards still think sweden is filled with blackssweden is not burgerlands, sweden has arabs
>>3667633I think I critted yeah>>3667598Early game is still somewhat challenging for some builds if you're not putting 50 points in chemistry for early MK3 grenades.
>>3667654Serial killers is our word, you can say mercenary.
>>3667666Even Depot A at this point can be easily cheesed
>>3667654>all the law-abiding citizens pull out their own miniguns and kill the insane guy before his reaches firing speed
This is how I LMG
>>3667583youre the one making a claim, you post the evidence>>3667654Yes. Gun control is retarded and leads to shit like the modern day where regular people have basically no say in anything and are ruled by retarded psychopaths.>>3667657well, it 1kho's anythingbutits slow and you can accidently KO yourselfalso for it to be really good you need a pretty specific buildso overall I dont think its any better than the other good weapons
>Going through Expedition as a LMG build>LocustI'm wasting thousands of ammo on these little fuckers fuck. Should have brought a GL.
This is fine. I didn't need ammo.
>>3667739I already offered to record, how else do you expect me to prove a negative?I'm not treating this as a bug because as far as I'm concerned this is how it's always been.
How much throwing do I need if I want to keep throwing nets accurate for the entire game (including expansion)?
Praetorian or coretech for a tincan sword guy?
>>3667926Coretech.
>>3667978thxcoretech seems to usually be the correct choice most of the time.
>>3667878there should be an auto-save at 00:22>>3667912it targets enemy evasion, so it needs to be competitive; max it and have good dex>>3667926coretech is for tanks
>>3667989>it targets enemy evasion, so it needs to be competitive; max it and have good dexall right, I guess I'll keep pumping it.
>>3667594playing again>Join the piratesI can't enter port crag without being blasted(not hostile by default but ward me off from entering their port), same with cetowiki says Razor is in port crag
>>3667999Razor is a few maps to the east of Ceto, here.
>>3667999dumb dumb dummy
>>3667999Im here to insult you again, you wiki-using faggot>>3668003thats north, dumb dumb dummy
>>3668003thanks I'll check it out>>3668007who are you again?
>>3667989>coretech is for tanksNo it's not, that's praetorian
>>3668013no, praetorian is for psiggers
>>3668017No it isnt, pillar is merely random a lore drop
>>3668018you idiotthe praetorian special is a gas grenade that only psiggers can use to the full effectthe praetorian questline fucks tincans, while being overall pretty easy for psiggersthe coretech questline on the other hand is very easy for tanks, especially if they have hackingJKK however, is fairly suited to rogue types
what's this guy deal?
who are you talking to?
the dude with asperger's
ah, the entire playerbase that isnt from redddityeah fuck that guy
what increases detection?I suddenly started detecting traps despite having 3 perception and no points in traps.
>>3668045level
>>3668046ah, so it just naturally increases with level, that makes sense.
>>3668020Praetorian is thematically a tin can factionPraetorian questline is indeed the hardest, but it's also a good test on how good and sturdy your tank buildd isCoretech is the overall easiest faction, anybody can do it, not just tanks in specific.Also everything is easy for psiggers, this is a moot point
>>3668054shit points in generalpraetorian is the worst choice for tincans, regardless of thematic intention; the first quest throws a bilocating TC boss at you, 2nd quest throws epistol/w2c homos at you, 3rd quest is fine, admittedly, but its a lot harder than the coretech one where a tank can just camp the entrance and wipe the waves easily (which is relatively hard for psiggers because you cant just enter combat first and some of them come in stealthed)each coretech quest is relatively very easy for tincans
>>3668057>the first quest throws a bilocating TC boss at youThat's the second one, first one is Al pacino, he is a strong TCer but can still get warcrime'd regardless.>2nd quest throws epistol/w2c homos at youThat's the first one, mystery niggas can still be tanked with morphine and sturdy enough HP, bridge section can be trivialized>but its a lot harder than the coretech one where a tank can just camp the entrance and wipe the waves easily That's not just tanks in specific, but easy quest as a whole, you can easily corner peek around some boxes and in the end of the day you can also warcrime the entrance and none of them survive past 5 tiles away from the entrance. Like I said, moot point.>each coretech quest is relatively very easy for tincansCoretech is easy in general.
>>3668059>he is a strong TCer*hasgood point, forgot about thatfurther strengthens my point>bridge section can be cheesedanything can be cheesed; faggots gonna fag>coretech warehouse can be cheesedas I said>Coretech is easy in general.but relatively easy for tanks, as I said
>>3668060Agree to disagree.Tanks should go to Praetorian still.
>>3668085if you want to suffer, surethough I guess you can warcrimes your way through de pacino and fursuit your way past jookhela to get to the fun stuff
>assburger is a hammerfagit all makes sense now
>>3668103What?
Stop arguing about bullshit and give me advice on retarded builds instead>sniper tin-can with psi for AoE: plan: sit in place while blowing shit up and sniping tough targetsCould this work?On Dominating of course.
>>3668114what weapon in your other hand?
>>3668116hmm. Good question, I didn't think about that. I'll have like 8-9 str since tin-can so maybe an assault rifle?
>>3668117then yeah, you should be fineit'll be a little hard to juggle that many ability points, and your psi powers wont be very strong, but MT goes well with snipers thermD + aimed shot, boom a whole groupcryostasis + aimed shot, ez kill a strong nigger like magnar or carnifexpyrokinesis + pyromania = possibly light up your enemies to trigger ambush or at least get rid of any darkness penaltypyrokinesis/cryo-orb/plasma beam for AoEs against multiple weaker foesAR for when you realize your build kinda sucks, keknah you'll be alright
>>3668119Nice, time to make a sniper without stealth for the first time.
>>3668121actually I probably still would use stealthaim for super steel armor to keep your penalty as light as you canuse a cloaking device to make up for your armor penaltynimble, possibly body-weight training and armor-sloping if you can afford themsnipe and ambush are great feats
>>3668122>stealthy tin canThat does sound coolGonna try that
Ever since beating the game with chem pistols I actually cannot use any other type of build without constantly wishing I was using chem pistols. they were so insanely fun to use
>>3668134I haven't played chem pistol in a while. I loved it, but has Styg ever tweaked cryo pistols to make them more useful? I hated how there was almost never a reason to use it over acid or fire.
>>3668136I don't think so
>>3668134Same.Hitting everything with acid, gas and napalm and then just watching the carnage unfold is just so damn fun.>>3668136They're useful against the sea serpents but that's about it.
>>3667989>there should be an auto-save at 00:22Keyword is should. Though one map earlier would be even better. Problem is, I can't find any trace of this particular autosave existing. Not in the executable, not in the dialog file, not in the zone layer file. But anon, it's not that I don't believe you. That's why I'm asking for proof that this save exists. So that I can find it and make sure my game, and the other anon's game, really is bugged.
Where do you guys get your avatar images from?
>>3668254For me, it's picrel
>>3668254I look for art on boorus and crop it in kolourpaint.
>>3668254
>>3668254photoshop my own out of existing sprites
>>3668315to add to this, you get bonus points if you represent the armor/gear the character usesthat image was for a vathosphore/bioscrubber tchortist playthrough
>>3668322
>>3668325based
Does doing Phreak lock you out of finishing the oligarch quest line? I've done the warehouse but Harlan isn't offering me anything else, and I can't talk to Rupert
Infusion should add a feat line that lets you capture a beast and train it.
>>3668452Why the fuck would that require a feat line
>>3668449Fight in the Arena in order to advance the oligarch quests, like usual.However I'm not sure if you can still do the last quest for Coretech once you've advanced the events with the Tchortists.
>>3668103It's just harperbald and bronyman ERPing as usual.
>>3668254I use AI
>>3668457same reason AIMING requires a feat
>>3666409>>3666439I just found this; couldnt find it when I first responded to youremove the MT skill points and feats; I didnt end up using themthis build can do anything in the game
>>3668641oh, and the melee points are for if you want to do the mutant quest
>>3668641>>3668642https://underrail.info/build/?HgUFBgMGDAnCoEoAwo4AAMKgSFRPAFFIHy9KwqAAAAAsAAABOSs2LCplKH5LIWYFAiRywrfCu20abMOcwp7CncKuw4jinJoF4qKjAeKitQLipKwC4q-8BOKvvQHfvgwent ahead and revised it a bit
>>3667307I used ten trillion chem blob traps on dom
>>3668688god damn dudejust use gas and caltrops and molotovs like a normal person
>>3668136>>3668148>cryo pistolsis there any synergy between ice wizards and cryo-chem-pistols?
>>3668690maybe? get cryo-induction, freeze a nigger, then shatter em with a cryo aimed shotI think that should work
>>3668689oh right, I used gas toocan't go wrong with gasgas the drones
>>3668690Not much. There's Cryogenic Induction, but that's about it.
>>3668690you cast the disco ball and then polish your cryo pistol after everything explodes I suppose
>>3668693>>3668695>>3668696lamewe need more themed feats
>>3668698theres just hardly any reason to use some of the cold options>cryo gasdoesnt stack with ground fire whereas toxic gas does>hypothermiaso much focus on a single enemy with repeated attacks is simply never worth the costif there was a "cone of cold" spell like pryokinestic stream it would be useful>cryo pistolhas some niche uses, but is widely considered the weakest chempistol
>>3668698Yeah, I never liked the lack of synergy between Metathermics feats and chem pistols/traps and Psychokinesis and electro pistols. It's no fun.
>>3668701well, pk is always nice for roots and stuns and shitprocs opportunist and lowers dodge/evasion to 0premed ek or ground a nigga, then aimed shot electro pistol to wipe a whole group
>>3668703I just wish there were more modals like Emission. Like, if Psychostatic Electricity gave you the modal to apply it to your electro pistol at an extra psi cost, or Pyromaniac to your incendiary pistol, Induction to your cryo gas grenades, you get the drill.
>>3668706some sort of... psi infusion?
>>3668712Heh, yeah. But you know, only working with the same damage type.
>>3668706years ago, some guy had an idea for psi emitters on melee weapons keyed to a particular psionic schooltheyd use psi points instead of battery power to enhance your melee strikeslike>mt fire: adds heat damage to your strikes>mt cold: cold damageI forget all his ideas though; I think the tm one could refund ap on a missed strike
>>3668714That could be fun too. Something like quality determines the cost and skill the damage?
>>3668720yes, or vice versa
Or on second thought, probably percentage based damage. % of your psi skill added as damage, with the % increasing and the cost decreasing with quality.
Are certain battles just unwinnable with a hammer?
>>3668963no
>>3668963No, you're just having a skill issue
>>3668987>>3668984So how the fuck do I kill the arena masters?
>>3669005Have you tried hitting them? I would start with that. Hit them, and if they don't die then we'll talk.
>>3669005the three guys in blast suits down in the sewers?It's easiest with a maxed-out reduction build, but it's doable without. It's tricky, because the time slicer is unavoidable and your armor won't do much, so you want to get her first. You can be basically immune to the epistolfag with full supersteel armor. The hammerfag has EW and a firecracker cap, so you can't rely on your armor to tank him until those wear off. Focus fire the TM fag first. Sprint in, net (barbed nets would be best) or root if you have pk spells, then pop adrenaline or coke and do as much damage as quickly as you can. Then pop morphine and turn on your low/low efficient shield. The epistol guy will drain your shield with his attacks, but theres not much we can do about that and it doesnt help that much anyway against the hammer. Do your best to tank the hammerfag. Your morphine should wear off around when the firecracker and EW debuffs end, so you can rely on your armor to tank him for a while until he gets EW again. A good tichrome spiked hammer with a blasting cap and leper poison. Quake with CACs. EW, pummel, and super slam with the tichrome hammer, while using Quake for normal attacks. Use focus stim and aegis before the fight starts. If you use a shaded visor helmet you can try to flashbang your own feet to win a turn or two without them banging on you if necessary, but I wouldnt count on it working since they're max level. You can't rely on nailbombs to trigger tfb since they're basically immune due to their blast suits, and I wouldnt count on serrated armor to inflict a bleed, so you'll be doing this without tfb most likely.
>>3669005Small piece of advice: load a save from before you entered their room if you can't beat them now, i fucked myself over by leaving to do the DLCs and came back later to an empty room, though i doubt i could stall the fight enough to get 3 separate expose weakness on my pk monk
>>3669018If you trap one of them in bear traps you can get lucky in finishing em off while the others are out of range. Another thing to note to is as long as they don't see that member die they will not get the added buffs or trap immunity.
>>3663781She's a rat for the Protectorate, they planted her to take control of South Underrail from the inside.
>>3668457Because your second feat either lets you cybernetically enhance your pet or unlock their latent psychic potential. You can only pick one.[/sub]
Why would you ever use heavy leather over tact vests?
>>3669076Because heavy leathers are cool as fuckAlso looks cool as fuck
Is armor slopping spec worth it?
>>3669087Yes but it depends.
>>3669076Infused leather is better. The only good (vanilla) leathers are Siphoner and Ancient Rathound though.
>>3669076sea wyrm gives excellent melee protection and the best acid protection (up to immunity), while activating juggernaut and heavy metalancient rat is maybe the best armor vs psiggers, because you can get pretty good heat and cold resist at the same time, as well as decent mech protectionbison can give you cold immunity and bonus hptacvests are basically only good against non-sniper bullets, which are already not a huge threat due to energy shieldspretty much the only people that use tacvests past the midgame are psiggers who want the psi booststheres also psicrab which gives you really good electricity protection while also allowing good heat protection at the same time; useful in spicy shores
>>3669097Isn't Sea Wyrm super heavy thought? Why not go metal armor at that point?
>>3669100for the reasons I just saidalso it has no str requirement
>>3668449As long as you don't go into the research facility unlocked by Phreak's quest you should be fine.
I wish there was a questline to get rid of both the Protectorate fascists and the Free Drone terrorists.
My house got fucking robbed but the robber wasn't around for me to kill, I thought this shit only happens while you're getting robbed so you can get your stuff back?
>>3669112The Free Drones don't have any goals besides driving out the protectorate. Do want stop the Protectorate from expanding into the south via peaceful protest? You want to send Melek a strongly worded letter?
>>3669126>Please don't go. The drones need you. They look up to you.
free drones is a lame name, it just paints its members as mindless slaves>but it's meant to be ironic like workers breaking free from oppressive regime and shituhuh, now face the wall drony
>>3669158Honestly that name always gave me the impression that they want to take it up the ass for the highest bidder instead of any real grievances for oppression. Not exactly a good name to use, is this some Slavic thing?
>>3668714>tm one could refund ap on a missed strikeToo good unless it's a dice roll. But how about>Temporal Undo>Gives you an ability that when activated, refunds 100% of the AP cost of any missed single-target attack with your weapons for its equivalent in psi for (duration) turns. Stacks 10 times. After the effect expires you have a (stacks) * 10% chance to suffer temporal disorientation.>Temporal Disorientation>Reduces THC with weapons by (percentage) for (duration) turns.Would you?
Finally managed to murder the old man for his gun. Did not realise how hard it is on level 10 and without gas nades, had to cheese him using 5 bear traps and 4 nets (which he can somehow evade while trapped, pretty sure thats illegal)
>>3669193can't you just outrange him and use locked gate trick?
>>3669195He can open it with his key. He can also open the two locked doors between his cuck shed and the mutant area.
>>3669197just steal them
>>3669200The only subterfuge skill I have is stealth. I'm playing a pistol build, not some full auto shit so I dont really need pickpocket.
Daily reminder: if you don't side with the drones you're a letist cuckold>>3669123pretty sure it doestheyre in stealth thoughits possible you just missed each other
>>3669276>if you don't side with the drones you're a letist cuckoldCorrection: if you DO side with the drones you're cuckold AND you have 10% less gun damage so lmao+ratio
>>3669277somehow I'm always a bit more surprised to get (You)s from bait than from actual discussionI just automatically assumed you were the burglar guy responding to me
>>3669276the mission where u gas all of them and gun everything down during the chaos with a biohazard suit on is fun though
>>3669435oh sureprotectorate has some cool quests and great merchantsbut drones have some cool quests too and a useful merchant, and you dont have that icky cuck stain on your soul
Or you could be an enlightened centrist and join neither.
>>3669443>enlightened>missing out on all that oddity exp
I wanna do a shotgun + PK build with Tesla armor as my endgame armor, how many points should I invest in PK and is it also worth having 7 will for the Psychokinetic Elasticity feat? I don't want Will to be a dump stat but I'm not sure if 7 and the feat are worth it when I could have more Con or something and leave Will at 5.
>>3669445Genocide Apogee if you really need it. As far as the game is concerned it never happened, so you can do it with a clean karma.
>>3669276>its possible you just missed each otherIn all my other playthroughs when I was getting robbed whenever I would walk or teleport inside my character would say "what was that?" after hearing noises and then usually gets attacked in the living room where the robber is hiding. That never happened this time, the fucker somehow robbed my house while I was away and I even kept the doors locked as well.
>>3669443thats just stupidhelp the drones remove the protectorate and then they wont have any reason to be here anymore eitherwin/wincentrism is for weak sheep who will always be at the bottom>>3669446I would say its not worth it, noall you're really getting with your that feat on your build is some extra range on EK, which wont be a damage spell so much as a disable; the feat is mainly for people who are doing an electrokinesis build in particularpsychostatic electricity is worth it; more crit chance is good, but that doesnt require willif youre gonna do a tesla build, I suggest using an electropistol; much more synergisticid say force user is worth getting 7 will for if you're not putting points in strength, but you want to use lightning spells, not forceif youre going to put points into will for psionic skills, then you should absolutely max the relevant skill, regardlessif you want to do a shotty with pk, its always smart to take 30 for EK and grounding, and 40 or 45 for imprint, and make sure to have premeditation>>3669448you cant get the CAU oddity without joining either faction; the CAU can appear on random boats, I dont know if that is triggered by a quest though>>3669449ive never heard of that happening
anybody have the knife schizo build pic?
>>3669453Maybe I'll just use metal armor or something then for my shotgun build.
>>3669439>train cuck projecting his fetish on othersAvatarfag and retard, really unexpected combo
>>3669484cry harder, zogbot traitor
Which psi class works best with an energy weapon build? The usual TM or would PK work as well?
>>3669494>I lick the boot of northerners upset about the change in their ruling class, therefore my opponents must be bootlickers tooAmazing. Any more insightful observations?
>>3669503thats some 13 agi mental gymnastics
>>3669506Exactly, glad you can see that too.
>>3669510lets back and forth zoomer-seethe at each other for another 30 posts
Imagine being a brainrotted-on-politics AmericanCouldnt be me
>>3657615>Greatest DLC of all time?Obviously not. I like the game, though
Is there any reason to use regular shotguns instead of burst shotguns?
>>3669664oh yespump shotties are superiorcombat shotties have their burst, which is very strong, but costs 50 appumps can shoot for only 20 ap each, so you can zoom and boom from one enemy to the next
Cheap shot damage spec, crit power spec or ripper spec for knives? I cant into math.
>>366969750ap is just too expensive for anything.
>walking around core city>trustworthy looking stranger gives me a green soda>drink it>dieI can't believe they did this to me
>>3669885go back and forth with cheap shot and crit power specs5 and 4 or 4 and 5
>>3669971
>>3670020at some point won't ripper spec out-math them both, like it increases damage past say 80% of the target's health compared to a single point in eitheri could make a graph on one of those websites but can't be assed
>>3670033>i could make a graph on one of those websites but can't be assedPlease do, I'm about to hit level 16
>>3670033Id rather have front-end damage; if youre critting you're gonna kill in about two hits anyway
>>3669977I once lost an ironman run to that guy. Just thought it was a cute little event I hadn't seen before and drank it.
ok here's some math for the critical damage bonus on a 115% normal knife with all 3 perks and 10 spec points thrown around(level 26), the number inside { } is what you get if target has full health, ripper multiplier assumes 50% health, [ ] is the critical power5 CP 5 ripper {115+50+[(15+50)*1.5]}*1.75={262.5}*1.75=459.3755 cheap shots 5 CP{115+50+25+[(15+50+25)*1.5]}*1.5={325}*1.5=487.55 cheap shots 5 ripper{115+50+25+[(15+50+25)*1]}*1.75={280}*1.75=490the 1st one seems to be weakest as it will grow the least from ripper on top of having the weakest { } base, and have to crunch more to get results of going 5 cheap shots and 5 in another or altenating both as you level upplease rip into me if i'm wrong in some step
>>3670052>>3670053huh?I look number my brain off
>>3670052So it seems that >>3670020 anon was correct then and cp+cs is in fact the optimal choice. Thanks for the math, anon.
How do I wipe out Port Zenith? It's so wide open a good alpha strike seems impossible
>>3670071build? difficulty?grenades, traps, abusing turn based system, abusing sight lines, stunning enemies with emp/stun nadestrying to approach the zone from different area once enemies are at the other end so they'll have to get to you from the other end of the map and you have a chance to pick them off before escaping the tile and doing it again from the other endI don't remember the layout but the general rules should apply
PK only Tranq, dominating
>>3670041lmaohonestly, it could be worse. It could reduce your chance to hit forever without ever telling you.
>>3670079>PK only>tranqhow has that been working out for you?
>>3670071its notyou just need a good build and a good brain
>>3670079that has extremely tiny alpha strike potentialjust like your dick
Do enemies have crit resist? Like what you get with some gear "Chance to get critically hit reduced by X"
>>3670090yeah, esp. robotsdepends on difficulty too
Will Josh Culler return for Infusion? I don't mind Eston that much but a downgrade is a downgrade.
>>3670090some enemies wear helmets, greaves, groin guards, etc, that lower it, and I assume some have paranoiasome enemies are immune to crits though
>>3670123Nohe's confirmed he won't
>>3670146Well damn. Do we know the reason?He did such a terrific job on Underrail.
>>3670144I never noticed it with humans, but I did just stab an industrial bot well over 50 times and got 3 crits despite having 35% crit chance. I also remember shooting a dreadnought with my 100% crit chance xbow build and not critting, despite them not being crit immune.
>>3670086You can make up for it with psychostatic electricity honestly on everything but coil spooders prob gonna get crit. If anything they'll still be a boss killer with implosion.Still prob be better with a monk, sword or sniper build though instead of pure PK though. Proxy ambush cheese is too good
>>3670158he doesnt want to just work for vidja titles
>>3670169Different anon but that's a shame, he really did an excellent job with Underrail, fit the world perfectly. I've liked his stuff since I first heard his ost for Neo Scavenger
>>3670173oh he was amazingI get that he has ambition, but he had a solid place in the world as another jeremy soule; hope he realizes this before its too late
>>3670169Good luck to him and all but that fucking sucks. I wonder what this will mean for the next OST. Will Styg just ask Eston, assuming he will be our composer from now on, to keep imitating Culler as much as he can? Or maybe the game's atmosphere will be different enough and he will be able to start fresh.
>>3670180he'll have more time to find somebodyI think eston was just a temporary thing for HD, but we'll see
>>3670081Honestly? Games been pretty easy so far. But a wide open area with enemies too far for EK to bounce is like a kryptonite
>>3670169Why though? Is he one of those people that thinks video games can't ever be considered art and wants to be involved in 'more serious' productions like movies and shows?
>>3670186Using lightining bolt as the main attack just sounds awful honestly, I might have to give it a try sometime.I've only done psi runs with either ice bolt or mind crush as the main attack.
>>3670227as a critmonster build I think it would be funfocusing entirely on damageitd be like electropistol aimed shots, but every time, and with no risk to yourself
>>3670169He'll come crawling back when the powers turns off and his stomach starts rumbling.
>>3670227Yeah it can be at times, but I like the strategy involved with moving your proxy around (which can deal nice damage too) compared to MT which is just ice spam . It's a more interesting style of play although battles with allies are s nightmare
>>3670246True, it would take a while to get going thodoing depot a with it sounds impossible on dominating unless you undermine the build and just abuse grenades
>>3670260>allieslel the bolt just making all your allies hostile must be infuriating
>>3669977What is this world coming to when you can't even trust a neighbourhood chemist.
There should be a robot build that lets you build and use your own robot companion, you start out only able to make a crappy small sentry bot and at endgame are able to make plasma sentries and industrial bots for a tank bot.
>>3670281Imagine how many batteries you would go through.
>>3670281i'd prefer the little augmented recon bug, like the one that the oculus won't give to you despite all your services done towards that faction
>>3670306What do you mean? You can request one free of charge and even get paid with the info you get out of it.
Anyone done a 0 psi cost meme build. I kinda wonder if hemo health reduction spec works like regular PSI reduction when applied. If so could prob do some stupid stuff with tranq. Not sure what would be the best PSI school for that but most likely you'll have to go only 1 school maybe 2 if lucky.
wtf i've never picked up one of these before how
>>3670365yep, new and rare
>>3670365>>3670366>can't make throwing knives or caltrops with them
>>3670366neat.>>3670374not so neat.
>>3670365The poison damage stacks with hypertoxity and cave ear. kinda fun watching guys kill themselves since they will spam taking drugs when injured
>>3670381It sounds fun on paper, but imagine trying to get enough to use regularly.
Knives are fun, I should have done a knife build sooner. I thought it would struggle against armor like unarmed does but its really not an issue (although I imagine the robot death room would still be horrible) and somehow stabbing zoners seems more appropriate than fisting them.
>>3670527Post portrait.
>>3670599nta but its in one of the old portrait packs if u google it.check here:https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/underrail-custom-portrait-thread.139186/https://stygiansoftware.com/forums/index.php?topic=1304.0
>>3670602Cheers. It really triggers my autism when my portrait doesn't have black hair like the sprite.
>>3670479Do deathstalkers even respawn?
>>3670671>Yes unfortunately If your on Dom they take the place of regular crawlers more than 70% the time
Where the fuck do all these exosoldier fucks keep respawning from? Also does gunslinger ever run out of batteries? There's no option to give him any.
>>3670897he does not
>>3670897According to the wiki there are 80-110 of them depending on difficulty. And then 30-40 psychophracts.It's a big compound.
>>3670921Well I'm just on normal for this playthrough trying out HD for the first time so I guess I'll just slaughter them all, luckily there's a rift if I need to get more ammo.
I've always tought this game was trash. I bought it tonight during the steam sales and I am now level 3 with a stealth/melee build and I'm on my way to find newton after caging 3 cave hopper. this game is great.
>>3670945you showed you
>you can just buy super steel sheets now>they're super cheap too
>>3670965you need to pass a check at least, and they're not high quality
Is CON something better to upgrade early for more HP at max level rather than using the veteran feat to get 2 more CON points while using the 4 points for PER?
>>3670975HP is retroactive so it doesn't matter when you take it. The only choice is whether you want more hp or more damage early on. Or if you need it to qualify for feats.
>>3670975Pretty much as this anon said >>3670986However things like hammers get more DPS in with a feat (super slam) and can boost other feats like conditioning for more DR.It also helps with certain stun saves and high enough can make poison only last one turn. Mostly though you'll want to focus on damage or dump Con since at higher difficulties enemy damage gets too juiced up to tank usually or they're too many. >Unless your a super tank than psiggers are usually your only threat
>>3671025Going to 7 for juggernaut can be worth it even on dominating. It can nearly double your hp compared to 3 con. 4 stat points and a feat is a big investment, but nearly double hp is big too.
>neural overload neural overload neural overload mental breakdownOmae wa mou shindeiru>bilocation
>be tincan>enter gray army base>kill everyone>read their emails>some guy was about to get married:(
>>3671031Sure only thing too to mention with that is depending upon their build, their armor penalty can be l lowered with nimble and it will still activate but other feats like heavy metal won't. So they should read the description on feats carefully.All Con boosting items also effects Jugg so that makes it better. Other gear as well can give quite some health like full Pig leather or bison but will never get enough armor penalty too activate it. So if they want to use leather gear to prob not take it :/
im a newbie, how do I repair my knife ? is there a repair npc ?
>>3671135ah I need mechanical toolkit right ?
>>3671137Yes. You can buy them from various people. You can also get the recycle and repair kit blueprints and then turn metal items into scraps and then scraps into repair kits yourself.
>>3671143thanks.I'm level 4 now, I like the oddity experience system. I just saved newton from the bugs, they hit hard I can't fight more than one at once.
>just handed in the drill parts and went to core city for some dumpster diving>pic relatedHoly shit, this is going to be so good at higher levels with trance/good headband etc.
>done with rail crossing>done with foundry>done with core city>done with dudes teleport quest>cleansed the entirety of the lunatic/lurker population getting lost searching for the eletrokinetic imprint>level 20should I go do the expansion now?Also I almost shot dude lol he just showed up in my characters house out of nowhere
>>367116120 is fine for expedition, I'd leave heavy duty for later, although it does have some nice toys
>>3671167All right. I'll be going on the expedition. I have no idea where heavy duty starts anyway.
>>3671169Its very easy to find if you explore the upper metro area. It has the highest skill checks by far in the entire game and some of the hardest encounters.
Infusion video still planned for this year, that's good news.
>>3671194Is that a fucking slime?
>>3671195NONONONO please no it cant be real
>>3671194*allll I want for christmas...issss........* *y*INFuSION VIDEO UPDATE
>>3671198This thing here.
>>3671200that was my first thought too
>>3671205thats indian cultural enrichment
>>3671208Shiet, are we sure this isn't North Underrail after all?
>>3671209styg wouldnt lie to us
>>3671195i will riot in the streets of belgrade if he doesn't let me throw my hammer at it
>>3671161>>3671167Heavy Duty is pretty much a post game expansion, I do it after conquering the DC and ending the faceless invasion.
>>3671267Fusion cannon, m60 and stunner are all really good and worth getting as soon as possible if your build can utilise them.
>>3671147Fun fact, on the hardest difficulty that quest is among the mos difficult in the game. But dealing with psi beetles is a hell of a spike for new players even on lower difficulties. Next one will be Depot A.
>>3671286Is there a goliath on dom or something? I've never done dom because its just literal bullshit unfairness from what I've heard.
>>3671287Nah, but there are many, many, many of them. Total bullshit at such a low level. Doable, yes. But bullshit.
>>3671286>that quest is among the mos difficult in the gameAll the quests leading up to and including depot A are basically tutorials. You likely dont have means to brute force your way through encounters using your meme metagamed build you found on the internet, so the game wants you to explore other options. Like learning that non-humanoids cant open doors, combat utilities are very strong, traps exist, certain gear can trivialise specific enemies etc.Truly a rare example of good game design, its hard to imagine a s*rb came up with it.
>>3671266>belgrade*buenos airesnothing special about that
>>3671288The only way I've ever done it on dom is somehow get past the ones at the entrance through supreme bullshit of the highest order and then the ol' toss a molly and shut the door trick
>>3671266But what if...
>>3671295just enter, wait for combat cooldown, then run to the doors and close themif you dont have stealth
>>3671295>>3671297oh, you mean the ones outsidenets and taser on the first one, then mollies/caltrops on the other two using the water rocks as a chokepoint
Just wait, in Infusion they will fly over your puny human doors.
I want styg to unleash all the bullshit we have been using so far against us. I want sledge fags to switch to a knife for exposed weakness before hammering your ass. I want xbow stealth fags to always start at 30% hp with SI so they can destroy you with crits. I want spear fags to have spear throw and use it from max range with decent accuracy. I want evasive enemies to have escape artist so you cant just trivialise them for the cost of 15 ap and 30 points in PK.
>>3671304>all to most PSI enemies have LOC on command> including beetles
>>3671309With enough psi synergy, why not
>>3671304>I want xbow stealth fags to always start at 30% hp with SI so they can destroy you with crits.you mean ambush and deadly snares
>>3671290as a new player I really enjoy using traps and having to use combat utilities. they actually feel useful in this game.
who the fuck in biocorp thought creating burrowers, crawlers, and psi beetles was a good idea?
>>3671304All of that cheese would do is kill tank builds even harder, while stealth/alpha strike builds wouldn't even see any of that, except for the escape artist shit, since the meta is to kill all enemies before they can act.
>>3671327I bet it was the dude.He made laser cats as a wandering hoboimagine what he did with all the tech and facilities at his disposal?
>>3671332Wasn't he only in charge of the stasis cells and other psionic research?
>>3671347psionic beetles are psionic research
tfw giving up on my third consecutive hammer build pre depot a
>>3671327It was just a prank, bro.
I just realized something, do normal non-violent death sports even exist in Underrail? Same with actual TV shows that isn't just the Arena fights live.
>>3671406I think long range wire connections between places are all fucked up so you only have reliable transmission within your own station, so no tv in the south underrail, people are too busy trying to live and can't afford to spend time to entertain just their own station.It might be different in the more "civilized" north underrail.
>>3671406>non-violentNot very Hardcore, anon.
>>3671417>>3671406Who would be the Gordon Ramsey or Guy Fieri of barrel soup cooking
>>3671424Probably that bloke you knocked off the bridge. RIP.
>>3671406The Hopperdrome hosts a non-violent sport.
Do these Heavy Duty niggas ever stop respawning?
>>3671511>>3670921
>>3670921>100+ I'm getting random frame drops too so that explains it.
Atleast the Fusion Cannon is deleting them, so now I don't have to waste 100+ ammo per encounter.
>>3671324Yeah, I can't think of many other games where every player is a habitual substance abuser, let alone one where almost all types of consumables and utilities see constant use. Yeah maybe you will only use the rare end game drugs to take fancy screenshots or pass skill checks, but anything that could be hoarded will be used.
>>3671532>let alone one where almost all types of consumables and utilities see constant useMy healing consumable collect dust until I split the stack and stick the larger half in a container to shave weight out of my inventory.
>>3671534Bound to happen when you erase half of South Underrail's population but still obsessively loot the hypos off their corpses.I put them in the footlocker next to my bed in SGS.
>>3671534>>3671535You would think the clinics would be keen to buy every hypo and bandage you have.
>>3671595Slightly strange that medicine isn't an always willing to buy thing like ammo is at gun shops. There are doctors everywhere so it's not like it's hard to offload anyway.
Why no Serbian translation?
>>3671630Why would you want serbs to play your videogame?
Forget about the faceless, a couple of rogue plasma sentries almost managed to breach core city defences on their own.
>>3671660I love money.
>>3671672Watching him grovel on shitter before Samuel El Haydini of all people was genuinely painful.
>>3671660I thought styg was a serb. And it would be cool reading it in Serbian.
>>3671600Yes it's hard, I hate splitting stacks. Why can't they do that on their own fuck's sake just take the two hypos you dick picking them out of my stack of 200 shouldn't be so hard.
>>3671721the weird part is that you can't even gift it to them.Bro, I'm making a donation of 200 hypos to SGS, just fucking take them I don't need more credits>no, I'll take a whole TWO hypos and not one more.
>>3671723Bunch of derailed zoners.
>>3671670I've never seen this random event happen before
>>3671740>I'm always looking for boltffs just take the fucking medicine
>>3671600For balance reasons and nothing more I would assume, selling psi hypos as a non psi character would be a money printerWhat is also unforgiveable is that there is a singular merchant who will buy chem pistols
>>3671890And yet a melee guy can just sell bullets forever.
>>3671723>>3671740very good pointI made a suggestion thread for this
>>3671890ah, yeah thats itpsi boosters are basically infinite, just limited by time
>>3671899Bullets weigh a surprising amount, psi hypos are nothing; Their cost to weight ratio is crazy high
>>3671905psi-items should be their own category, way easier to balance that way.
I just stop looting when I hit like 50k charons.
Isn't it a bit much to lower your total HP, heal less from medicine, and all the stuff you sell only being sold for half its actual value for higher difficulties? Why not just simply keep it as having the enemies being tougher, smarter, and there being more of them?
>>3671918I always play on Hard because it bugs me that my character's max HP is calculated differently from other humans on Normal. Then I notice that NPCs don't suffer from the medicine nerf and get annoyed.
>>3671918Its a bandaid. Money stops being an issue after the GMS quest even on dominating, and you dont even need to loot and sell all the junk you find unless you plan on using a full set of supersteel armor with extra plates or something.Difficulty wise the HP and healing stuff does screw over tank builds more than anything else, without making the overall game harder I'd say. You can still make a proper tank, its just going to come online later because you need high quality metal armor for the % resist. Meanwhile a glass cannon can just blast things, sure you'd have to reload every now and then but who cares, its not a roguelike.
>>3671929Is being a 3 conlet really the best option for hard and dominating difficulty? I just made a psi build with 7 con and the psycho feat since in previous playthroughs I've always done the usual 3 con tranq build since I usually play on normal until now.
>>3671918The HP and health reduction actually isn't that bad since it's kinda balances each other out. Hard has the same restrictions. Generally too by the end you'll have gear or feats that boosts your HP into the 400/500 range.Mercantile should honestly be buffed in infusion to also let you sell more stuff and it not be a feat.
>>3671926do you also notice that their AI is retarded and they cant have the same gear as you?
>>3671934I suppose when you health is that high, each enemy are hitting for half of it in a single shot. Better to spend that hypo AP on breaking line-of-sight or giving up and crying.
>>3671933Con isn't that good for certain builds so it's usually dumped. However it's still good for survival instincts or a hammerfags.LMG and Mini gun guys also benefit hammer gunners high to heal off of. Especially so if you get the abomination that and spec you'll always be able to fully heal after every fight usually without using a hypo
>>3671933I like tin cans even on dominating because I'm allergic to reloads (and bear traps), as I said it just comes online later. I think the one playstyle that truly gets cucked by dom is when you use a sturdy tac vest without really investing in defensive feats, hoping it would be good enough to survive a turn or two. Between boss HP buffs, player HP/healing nerfs and massive buffs to enemy skills (and thus damage), the difference between a 9 con SI glass cannon with 30% hp and a 5 con tac vest virgin at full health is literally zero, you'll die just as fast and the glass cannon can at least clear the screen in one turn.
>>3671945>>3671940Fuck, maybe I should restart my wizard and shotgun build then, the shotty only has 5 con but the 2 points can go into having 6 STR and an extra perception point. At least I'm not too far into them but still annoying.
I've only done a Psychosis pure Psi build. What do you pump instead of Con for Tranquility? Dex? Agi?
>>3672036I put both at 6 for sprint and grenadier
>>3672036When you do a psychosis pure psi build is the 7 con mandatory for hemopsychosis or can you still just do a 3 con build with psychosis?
>>3672036You could put it in AGI for AP maxing with blitz. STR too can be good with PK.
>>3672047I go 9 con for survival instincts and stay at <30% health most of the time.
>>3672036>pure psiHow pure are we talking?
>>3672052Quad Psi. You can use throwing and stealth. It's not literally pure.
Alright bored with my pure PK Tranq buildIs unarmed fun?
>>3672126You turn the tranq PK into a monk one with even a little dex investment and melee points. That if your like at 6 Dex already and haven't hit lvl 16 yet
>>3672126Also pure unarmed or fist weopen... Pure unarmed is kinda hell especially early
>>3672132unarmed is probably the melee favorite for the majority of playersI dont care for it much, personallyleather gloves are solid
>>3672135I'm more talking pure fist. Gloves have a lot extra attachments and uniques that make em slap. Like the pneumatic hammer or bleeding to activate vil weaponry. While pure fist (no PK) only really have their low AP cost and are more feat hunger to get going
Claw or Ripper's Glove?
>>3672183>fist (no PK)Why though
>>3672201Both are good the claw prob better though for the Bio stacks in the grand scheme of things for combo. Ripper is better at dot stacking
>>3672208all I know is some tried it...>it's as painful as it sounds Though psiless runs tends to be like that for a good chunk of things
>>3672211>some tried itTried and succeeded. I didn't even attempt to fight the exosoldiers in the compound because that's a bit too bullshit even at max level for pure fist, but I have beaten everything else.
>>3672350Someone did beat dominating with a crowbar, does not make it a good choice.
>>3672365Fists aren't as bad as a gimmick run with the crowbar tho, just very slow to come online.
Psi powers outside of thought control class don't really seem plausible to me, how exactly can you create electricity, ice, fire, forcefields, manipulate time, ect with your mind? Just seems like typical magic stuff to me.
>>3672513It's all in those old declassified FBI documents though. Well, not time, iirc the fourth one was some extrasensory vision shit like farsight or precognition or something.
Are hammers a meme?
>>3672623Hammers are a meme. They encourage raising CON as a melee build and don't benefit from Fancy Footwork. If you equip metal armor you get to taste multiple rounds of bullets without being able to attack back as you slowly inch closer to the enemies. If you equip a stealth suit you're just a shitty assassin compared to the knife build, except for the sole advantage that you can comfortably carry 100+ bear traps in your inventory whereas the knife guy is probably only packing 10 or so bear traps.
>>3672623They are not, however they get outperformed by other melee weapons, but you can still pretty much make them work, tho they railroad you into being a tin can or a tanky leatherfag
>>3672673>If you equip metal armor you get to taste multiple rounds of bullets without being able to attack back as you slowly inch closer to the enemies.
>>3672691Still mad that you can't just weld metal plates on the industrial exoskeleton.
>>3672692well, then it'd be maybe a little too goodthere are the combat exoskeletons at least if you want a bit more armor
>>3672691Doesnt that shit burn all the energy if you actually try running around while its powered on?
>>3672702Its not so bad, but its best for shorter fightsregardless, it gives about 40 mp, yet in my pic I have 100 despite having 95% ap, without tmthe point being, you can have good mp even with maxed armor, on a sledge build
>>3672673>don't benefit from Fancy FootworkWith TiChrome, full spec'd pummel, contraction, blitz and adrenaline you can get off like 8 attacks
>>3672709
>>3672709>TMYour argument has been rendered invalid
>>3672712Cope, seethe and psycho-temporally dilate
>become a powerful temporal manipulator>rewind time to before you ever met SGS>turn around and walk away
>>3672795>rewind time to before you ever met SGS>lose your psi empathy and all the godlike powers you obtained along the way, now you're just a pipeworker who struggles to 1v1 a rathound
>>3672795>rewind time to before you ever met SGS>return to the primordial goo in the cloning vat Tanner wrought you from
Huh, weird. For some reason I remembered reading some spooky message in Ludenlof's office before but I can't find it now. Was it just a dream?
>>3672815yes
>>36728152nd floor, monitor in the cubicle near the elevator behind a 100(?) difficulty electronic lock. And the papers on the ground to get to the hidden level.
>>3672818oh no, it's happening again!>>3672819Ahh, yeah, that. Totally forgot about that too. Fucking northerners, man.But the thing I'm remembering was some message more along the lines of ICARUS FOUND YOU RUN WHILE YOU CAN. Computer message? Comm device? No idea. Probably just a dream.
>no Dude in InfusionAw. To be expected since what the fuck would Dude be doing in a standalone game fuck knows where but definitely not in North Underrail, but he'll be missed.
>>3672785Nah, I will leave that to you
>>3672623at least they're the worst weapons in the game.
>>3672840Crowbars are far worse. Now that they even have a dedicated feat you can't pretend that they're not supposed to be a proper weapon type.
>>3672840I wanted to argue with you but could not come up with any good points to prove you wrong.
>>3672841Crowbar feat is just a neat reference and acknowledgement of one mad lad. If we wanted to stretch the definition of a proper weapon type throwing knives would be the choice, and they are certainly worse than sledgehammers on their own.
>>3672849>throwing knives would be the choice, and they are certainly worse than sledgehammers on their ownCounterpoint: throwing knives have rangeBut among the ranged weapons, I would agree that they're the weakest. If anything just because it's obnoxious to use them from the utility slot.
I love the Phaser so much. So cool.
>>3672849throwing knives apply poisons from a distance and one of their feats is an action point generator
>>3672804Speaking of vats, both times you run into Six he is examining stasis cells. What was he looking for?
>>3672881I did not say throwing knives are bad as utility for a dex build, I said they are bad as a primary weapon type. You can use a sledgehammer exclusively from the start of the game till the end, using nothing but throwing knives on the other hand is cock and ball torture.
Is it too retarded to build AR or SMG for special attacks (aimed shot/point shot/rapid fire) instead of burst?
>>3672918Aimed Shot is great on AR. Other two are useless.
>>3672891I've done it though special thing is with shock shurikens their electric damage does scale so with a crit build and ripper you can shred most tanks.If anything else you have grenades and 3 pointer that scales already with throwing.Should pump chemistry anyways to 100 in order to buy corrosive acid from the institute to deal with armor
>>3672946Correction to specify it scales with crits off with ripper
Does anyone have numbers on how Burst Precision affects burst accuracy? Is it meaningful to slap a barrel compensator on a hornet for +25% burst precision?
Is there a stealth route through the waterways facility? I could make it into mutie territory, but at this point I see no non-combat way forward.
>>3672971With a fast jet ski you could simply rush into the next area, but I guess that doesn't really count as stealth.
>>3672828If we ever get a game in North Underrail will we even get to play as the same protagonist again and carry over our build? Or will the canon choice be that the protagonist had enough of all the crazy shit and retires at SGS so Six has to find a new guy to do his dirty work for him?
>>3672974Well everyone is hostile anyway so that could work, but I was more confident in my effective 300 stealth than in my jet. I think this is going to have to end in genocide. Then after evaluating the situation maybe I'll reload and turn back. Ion can look for another sucker.
>>3672980Technically, I believe it's entirely possible to finish that quest without killing a single creature. But the quest itself is just an excuse to go there and loot the place.No way it's worth going into that hellhole for the pitiful reward he offers.
>>3672981I still find it stupid that they don't make you an honorary Rig member, especially when you sided with the Black Eels in Junkyard. The most annoying fucking part too is that those Rig fucks take all the credit for ending the pirate raids in the waterways when it was MY CHARACTER that slaughtered all those pirate fucks in their own base.
>>3672981>pitiful rewardThat settles it then. After seeing what loot I'm missing out on I'm out of this shithole.
>>3672983The biggest draw for me it's one hidden loot (very high quality mutant dog leather) + the unique engines for the jets.
>>3672988There are some good quality components here that I could definitely use right now. Too bad, but I'm still walking away with two q157 energy cores so this won't be all for nothing.>unique engines for the jetsIf only there was a better incentive to upgrade your jet. Jet races, naumachia, anything.
>>3673000Going faster and/or carrying more loot on the jet is more than enough for me. They're also guaranteed and free for the taking, unlike good engines in the stores. And they're conveniently small+medium, just right for the Aegis jet.
>>3673001How early do you usually do this quest? I have basically nothing on the waters left to explore so the upgrade would come a bit too late now.
>>3673004Usually if I'm confident that I can deal with the area I go for it before the expedition with the jet you can buy from Tappy.If not, I go there roughly about midway through the expedition or not at all.
>>3673000>If only there was a better incentive to upgrade your jet. Jet races, naumachia, anything.Yeah the game is really lacking in jet ski content outside the expedition, there's literally no reason to ever buy any of the jet skis at Ray's when you can get the Aegis for free which is just as good as the quality skis at Ray's. Especially with how the only way you'd even be able to have the charons to afford them is either by cheating to constantly refresh the merchants so you can sell all your hoarded loot at once or having to do the DLC to sell the reef glider and acorn and by then you pretty much have no reason to use a jet ski anymore.
>>3673013>only way to get 10k charons is by cheatingAnon...
>>3673013I have almost 10k by the time I finish depot A on Hard.
>>3673007Sounds like a lot of pain for something not really needed, but maybe I'll try it next time.So I don't think I get the story of this facility at all. They made D5 warheads for Ceto. They had a mutagen leak incident, but it was minor and was not what turned everyone into mutants? But it had nothing to do with the Junkyard incident either? These were totally separate incidents? Which Hollow Earth elevator broke down when? What even did they bring here from Hollow Earth, the spiders? I don't got anything.
>>3673017Bullshit, there's no way you can find that many loot especially with how you only get half its actual value without either using that cheat engine or to keep your PC on for hours waiting for the merchants to refresh.
>>3673013you cant whoop tremendous ass as a melee character on some shitty merc jet
>>36730269/10guaranteed replies, believable, but just a teeny bit obvious
>>3673026>you only get half its actual valueEven on DOM you can get that rich just as fast if your build isn't eating away everything you make.While it's true that you get less money for the same amount of loot, you need to consider that the merchants don't have less money and one or two good items are enough to clean them of all the charons they own anyway.Being poor is a (player and character) skill issue. Projecting about using cheats only exposes you for the clown you are.
>>3673030>>3673029Care to enlighten us then how you get rich so fast in the tutorial section of the game?
I'm not that anon, but on hard, in my current play-trough I end up depot a with around 4k charons, and I had no mercantile.I imagine with mercantile, disassemble, or just actually bothering with repairing shit before selling (loot everything, keep the 2 best guns, recycle the rest into repair kits, repair the guns fully) you could easily end up with 10k if you're diligent with coming back to sell shit whenver you're overencumbered.
>>3673033I dont play with mercI usually have about 3k when I finish depot Abetween quest rewards, pickpocket, open lock, hacking, and just loot you get from fights or thats otherwise lying aroundtheres plenty of money/loot in places the average player might not check, like that one room in the embassy you get through via the vents, theres a couple hundred charons just sitting there in a locker or somethingif you have crafting skills, you can take components you find and make full items to sell for even more valuehowever, I dont wait around to sell all the loot before getting the drill parts, like all the crap you get from the gang fightI usually just make some piles and sell it off throughout the midgame
>>3673030Not that anon, but you can get under 2k charons once you get everyone in Junkyard and Blaine, but I don't think it's realistic to expect that you'll be clearing Catherine every time. How many hours are you going to spend before finishing Depo A?
>>3673038Being able to do it and actually doing it are very different things.I agree tho, it's better to move on and unlock the rest of the map ASAP usually.
>>3673037Well 2-3k is usually what I have by Depot A as well, that other guy was talking about having freaking 10k.
>>3673055its possiblebut you need to have the patience to do multiple merchant runs before finishing depot Abut getting 10k by the time you can buy jets from ray is ez; you should have that much by then without doing anything unusual
>>3673058By then I'd probably already have explored all the waterways with the junk jet bought in Hathor and I prefer using the money to set up my house basement. I always join Aegis in the DLC and get their jet ski for free after recusing the professor which is better than the ones at Ray's you'd need around 10k to buy since it can hold 2 engines and batteries.
>>3673063>I always join Aegis in the DLC and get their jet ski for freeYou get their jet ski for free as pirate too.
>>3673063>which is better than the ones at Ray'snaheach of the jets has different slots and sizes, and the aegis jet isnt the best at anything
>>3673064Why would I want to join those zoners and screw over the economy in South Underrail, my character's home?
>>3673070Because the Rig quest is pretty cool.
>>3673070because the eels are collaborating with the protectorate to establish more "stability" (tyranny)a bit of piracy is a small price to pay for freedom
>>3673072>because the eels are collaborating with the protectorateThey're collaborating with SGS, actually..
>>3673075no, see, you dont knowyou havent played the pirates questline yet
>>3673072>a bit of piracy is a small price to pay for freedom>be a northerner's bitch while looting your own people = freedomAt last I truly see.May as well join the Protectorate if you think that way, tho.
>>3673077you can take out the sonar without joining either black sea faction, and I *think* as long as you do and dont kill too many pirates, the ending slides recognize itbut I dont want to pass up all that oddity exp and the jet feats on most runsI did it once though
>>3673078>you can take out the sonar without joining either black sea factionBut why would you do that? It only benefits pirates.For your troubles you get to pay extra for ferry transport and get more annoying encounters that put you in combat while on the jet ski.At least if you join the pirates you have some personal benefits. Still, I don't think that surrendering the waterways (and all waterway facing stations/outposts) to pirates is "freedom".
>>3673080I already said why to do it, idiotif youre gonna argue with me, dont ignore what I say
>>3673072Well then it'll be civil war between SGS eels at Junkyard and the traitors at the Rig, and with the player on the SGS side I think we all know which side will end up winning.
This Orange Box puzzle is filtering me.
>>3673084wtf are you talking about
Can someone tell me without spoiling too much how much lockpicking and hacking skill i need in order to not miss any possible in game lore dumps
>>3673092In Base game and Expedition i mean. I only bought heavy duty for the weapons
>>3673087Just go to your game files and replace the phone sounds with generic ingame sound effects. Now instead of tones you get distinct sounds like plasma gun firing, grenade exploding, levelup sound etc.
>>3673092>lockpicking/hacking>loreOnly hacking is relevant unless I'm missing something. 130 effective (no haxxor allowed) would be the max needed for it.
>>3673092130 is about the highest that they getthere are a few things that can give you a bonus
How come you can't use biolocation on yourself to create a clone that goes after any hostile as a way to fight against non human creatures?
Tchortist Noble Robe or PSI Tact Vest?
>>3673126I use the noble robe until I can craft a good vest.
>>3673126robe if youre a TC main
>>3673106The clone is in their head, not yours. Bilocating yourself would be like trying to get your imaginary friend to beat someone up.
Is there a way to de-aggro enemies on other screens? The goliaths outside of the hanging rat got too close to the entrance and now i can't leave.
>>3673161it's over
>>3673161Kill them?
>>3673168It's a bit hard when it's 5 of them and i'm guaranteed to go last on the first round.>>3673167Well shit.
Are you locked out of finishing the Oligarchs quest chain if you do Phreaks quest chain?
>>3673175no
>>3673175No its the other way around, if you get too far into one of the Oligarch quests you can't do Phreak's quests.
>>3673177>>3673178That's weird, i'm not getting the last quest from Knight after doing Phreaks quests and doing all the other Praetorian quests.
>>3673183because youre not an accomplished gladiator
>>3673185Oh right, I forgot about that requirement.
>>3673169What's your build?
>>3673190I was doing an "elementalist" run, so there's no fucking way i'm tanking my way out of there, i'm probably just going to use cheat engine for the sake of not loosing hours of progress.
>>3673161RIP
>>3673192Just load an earlier save.
Is Mental Subversion worth it? On a TC main? I never feel like resolve modifiers do much.
>>3673573no
>>3673192Restarting is part of the experience.
Does Enrage suck? I thought enemies would attack the enraged but they just rush towards me
>>3673906It's prime mayhem. But only situationally useful, and it did suffer from the LoC nerf.
>>3673939That's how I did my first expedition run, it was before the psy nerf as wellJust hit them with the crazy bomb and watch them tear each other apart just like their ultimate fate now that I think about it
>>3673939>LoC nerf.What was the nerf?
>>3673948>1.1.2.0 - AoE radius changed to 2 (down from 3)
>>3673948Crippled radius.
>>3673951>>3673952That's some bullshitIsn't the point of loc to give some AoE to mind control spells?with a radius of 2 you will barely get more than 1 guy.
>>3673953You can still hit a decent group if you catch them at a chokepoint. And yeah, it was part of the whole psi "rework" and loc nerf wasnt the worst part of it so nobody cared.
>>3673955I still don't get why he shat on solo psi so hard but left the "just pick 70 points of temporal for the two most powerful abilities in the game for every single build" un-nerfed.
>>3673960Contraction did get a slight nerf, but you cant really nerf TM without just remaking the whole thing. The whole point of TM is utility (as opposed to direct damage or CC from other schools) so naturally builds that dont specialise in psi would take it and benefit from it since HP penalty is not a big deal, especially on dominating. And if you do somehow nerf TM to the point of it not being useful for most characters, it would be totally worthless for psi builds since they actually care about psi slots and psi points and would not want to invest in subpar psi abilities.
Styg has some personal hate boner for psi now, nothing else in the game got nerfed as hard and of course he never even nerfed other OP shit like traps and grenades. With LMGs being a thing now he's just laughing in our faces that he truly doesn't care about balance and just hates us pure psi users.
>>3673947To be fair they don't go insane if you just leave them be. But cleaning that mess up is somewhat of a moral obligation.
>>3673978They're already insane, they attack and murder any non-savage they see and they are trying to turn themselves into snake people.
>>3673906Do you even get xp when enraged enemies kill each other?
>>3673997Anon is talking about hwat happens if you break the black rock
>>3673999Yeah I know they all kill each other, I destroy the shadowlith on every playthrough. Like Six said it was already too late to save them from the mindrape but at least it won't turn any future civilization in the black sea crazy.
>Finally have time to play the game>Thread rolls to page 10Sad
>>3674204there's a new thread up