is the shitty broken junk jet in camp hathor worth the price? Was I scammed?
>>3659868Totally worth 300 if you don't want to genocide a port or bother with Omaha (yet).
>>3659872Oh good. I just automatically accepted it without paying attention.
>>3659868>exploring the river with newly aquired trash jet>finda perfectly intact junk jet just lying around>steal it>some dude spawns and kills mewoooow
>>3659868I always take mercantine and mechanics so I get it dirt cheap.
>>3659885I always want to do some retarded build that uses too many skills so I never have the points to put in mercantilesame for persuasion and intimidation but from what I understand those are kinda useless
>>3659856noits possibly good on builds that do high single-target damage as a way to do even more damage with one attack (snipe, aimed shot, impale, super slam, etc)but for that you'd need to have the cost be low, via tranquility or premedyou can break rocks with it by casting implosion then recurrance
>>3659902I see. I guess I'll try it out on some future sniper build
Why is Biocorp's logo the best kept secret of Underrail?
>>3659868It's only a scam once you realise you can steal other jetskis. But you can't steal them without having your own to get there. Think of it as an investment.
>>3659887Persuasion is basically a story only skill, intimidation can get very funny with a TC knife build. Plus you can use yell to flush out crawlers.
>>3660018One day I'll run around yelling at people like a fucking caveman
>friend recommends Underrail>sure I guess, enjoyed old Fallout and Kenshi>he suggests to pick a random build from forums>ignore him, decide to go blind in>pick heavy guns as combat skill>barely make enough moolah to craft shitty 9mm LMG and top off ammo from vendor and my bake cookie (bullet) trays>friend hypes up Depot A as some sort of roadblock>breeze through it>return to hand in the drill circuit board>get notifications about dlc content and main mission to go to core city>start exploring instead, just endless maze of mines and beasts>go back to main quest>get bored and just remove the gameit just didn't click
>>3660046That happens. Personally though I'd never recommend a Heavy Duty build for a first time player. Those exist to make veterans giggle at how broken they are, something totally lost on someone new to the game.
>>3659868>anime portrait
What do you think the inhaler tastes like?
>>3659868give portrait
>>3660087Like Pepsi Blue.
>>3660084If I wasn't lazy I would replace the portraits of the NPCs tooI did that with bg 1 and 2every game should be an anime game.>>3660099here you go fren
God I love slaughtering all the pirates and savages in the black sea, it reminds me of Fallout New Vegas' DLC that also had a bunch of violent backwards savages trying to fuck your shit up unprovoked so you have to go wipe them out.
Kill em johnny, kill em all...
>disassemble shitty armor>it was made with better materials than your own>if I literally remake the armor it ends up better than what it was originally???How can you use an 87 quality ballistic panel (this is after the quality loss from disassemble) vest that only gives 5 thresholdI could make better armor using 36 quality shit back at the junkyard
>>3660121Maybe they put it in back-to-front?
>>3660121Reinforced plates are for % reductionLaminated plates are for threshold
>>3660133Even then, I think it would give more than just 5I'll test it once I get enough tailoring to actually disassemble it.
god i love crossbows
>>3660192You walk alone in this world, anon.
>>3660200I like em toohttps://underrail.info/build/?HgMHBwMQAwcjAMKgAADCoMKgTTlEWlFRQh1RAAAAAE4ANSYBIn81MDgZTEtqwoACM8KFwqPCkW0abMKewp_CncOI4qCKBeKjsQXip74F374
>>3660202Is deadly snares useful? It seems kinda redundant unless you're fighting a boss enemy that you've bear trapped.
>>3660200Another crossbow enjoyer reporting inSpamming specical bolts with 100% crit chance without any situational buffs like ambush is extremely fun.https://underrail.info/build/?HgMFBQkOAwcATcKgAAAAwqBbUwAAb3I4XGQAAADCoAAATGIBIn_CgDgrwocxakszwoUmKsKkwrUv4qe-CuKstAXfvg
Do shotgun builds work well? I've never used them as my main weapon before. Besides the usual TM crutch would any other psi skill work well with shotguns?
>>3660262PK + premed is always a good combo for guns, means you can make a chokepoint or put out stuns/rooted and enable Opportunist. If you're not using it for direct damage it's a very cheap school to splash in.
What level are you meant to do the Abandoned Waterway Facility?I managed to make it all the way here past the coil spiders but these fucks in the jet skis take so many hits to dieI just finished camp hathor and ended up here while trying to reach core city
>>3660262Shotguns are solid. They have a lot of built in armor pen, letting you kill things like industrial bots easily even without special ammo and leading shot lets you ignore most of the target's evasion. Just make sure you have a lot of mobility so you can run into the effective range of the shotgun and get out. Sprint, hit and run, tabis etc.
>>3660273I'm pretty sure its one of the harder optional zones outside of dc and expedition. Not as hard the RAF13 or the blackest of roofniggers but still not an early-midgame zone for sure.
>>3660276I would run away but I think I'm stuck after accidentally starting a fire in the lower levelsthankfully the power of mk3 grenades and flashbangs has saved the day.I hope the loot is worth it I went trough like 20 grenades so far
Does nimble hammer work well? Rathound regalia, tabis, focused on killing and movement rather than tanking
>be you>be a random zoner>door to your room opens>some random zoner sprints full speed towards you and kicks you in the dickwhy is the SGS new guy like this
>>3660290I forgot how fucked up of a person my character is>turn off the power of some zoner watching the arena>murder him over it>push drunk guy into a fucking pit >push husband into a molten steel vat and then run his wife over with a minecart
>>3660293Oh and I forgot>kidnap woman who is about to leave with her husband and give her to the rat psycho>kill her husband in front of her>kill the rat man>kill her
>>3660295You don't have to do every quest, you know. You can always put principles before XP.
>>3660281Yes. Altough I hope you got some stealth
With armor slopping fully specced, nimble and bodyweight training you can get 0% armor penalty super steel armor. Is it worth it?
>>3660309NEVER.
>>3660327There are problems with this approach which all lead to the same conclusion, it all just comes too late. By the time you can acquire enough feats levels or resources to craft the mobile can your character is likely so strong they can handle anything anyway. Super steel armor to me always felt like you're already winning but you want to win harder and not an actual viable solution to anything.
>>3660327Nimble+bodyweight training is 25% so I assume you're trying to make your supersteel armor with <50% base ap? If so then it seems counterproductive. You dont get a bonus from juggernaut, you cant max out your armor plates for maximum protection and you cant wear metal boots if you want to stay at 0% ap.For example this is from my nimble can, I have exactly 50 MP without buffs (but with drifter tatoo) and 40% AP. No bodyweight traning either. I wouldnt want to give up any armor protection and especially one of the veteran feats for a few more movement points.
>>3660347Post build?
>>3660361Uuuuh...something like this? Its been a while. https://underrail.info/build/?HgcDAwkDCwoAWwAAAAAAWjjCggBkZBhiTQAAwqDCoAAAPissYlA9KmVfVcKERcKHwogkCMK3wrhmw47CneKitQLip4IC4qyDAuKwuAXisLkE374
>>3660206hugelyif you trap a bunch of different people you can just rapid fire crit them all to death>>3660281it doesnt work *well*, noits doable>>3660327no, you cantyou can get down to 2% I think
>>3660309Why do that when you can be a disciple of Tanner. Path of Neutrality, bitch.
Why is my sledgehammer hit chance so shit? I stuck around 70%
What level should I be for water treatment facility? Slick and his dobermen/pitbulls are fucking raping me. I have steel armor 40/18 and still get fucked
>>3660435Dogs are by far the worst dungeon variant for water treatment. I managed to do it with my lmg build by chugging morphine and abusing doors and even then it took a lot of reloads. I'd say just forget about it and maybe come back later, after depot a.
>>3660435Pitbulls are fucking endgame enemies. If you roll dogs on treatment plant you need to leave it for later.
>>3660442>enter area>pitbull pack random encounter right by the area transition instant kills methanks styg cool designguess i'm meant to be in stealth every time i change area
>>3660309>You don't have to do every questmy character will do whatever you tell hin to if it gives cash, no matter how small the amount.The ultimate mercenarywhat's that hobo? You want me to shoot this other hobo? And you'll pay me with an empty bottle? Sure thing I could always use more molotovs!
Hey, I found a way to get Aran's sword early without aggroing anyone.Does have the slight drawback that it requires Core City riots round 2 and will cause Praetorian to murder everyone including the merchants though.
Is tungsten just straight up a better material than regular steel for spears?
>>3660505Steel has slightly better crit chance.Yeah, tungsten is always better.
>dilating is a debuffwhat did styg mean by this?
>>3659879Have you tried becoming a more proficient thief?
>>3660111Looks like the post of an upstanding denizen of core city.
>>3659879you fell for the bait >ah, a free junk jet just sitting right here in the one spot of light in this long dark tunnel>nothing suspicious about this at all!
>>3660537That's a good point but instead I became a more proficient murderer and came back later and killed them
>>3660546I'm just roleplaying my 3 int character correctly
>>3660505Spears get a guaranteed crit skill so yes 100%
>>3660505Tungsten is just straight up a better material.
>>3660505Regular steel is almost always the worst option for melee. If you have a crit build you'd rather have more crit multiplier, knife and fast sledge both like tichrome, super steel is just flat out better.
For the longest time I had it in my head the reason tungsten slugs stun is because they concuss, as in you hit someone in the head with it and they just get a concussion, rather than it just hits their armor or what have you so hard that they have the wind knocked out of them
I'm interested in giving Styg some feedback, what are some racial slurs I could call him?
>>3660608They do always hit enemies in the head. They also hit them in the chest and feet at the same time, just like every other attack.Underrail is weird when you think about it.
>>3660613I'm half convinced that Underrail has no locational damage because Styg knew we'd go for the eyes every time like it's Fallout 2.The other half is that he's just a lazy slav(e)nigger.
>>3660617Infusion will fix this. Just have to wait several decades for it to release.
hmmm I wonder where the stealthed enemy is...
It feels like a waste to spec into 11 Str on a LMG build and not use melee at all.
Tranquility or Psychosis?
>>3660740it's a shame the game punishes being a switch-hitter. Being able to pull a knife to stab a dude that gets too close would be ludokino, but instead you're better off just shooting the guy with the guy you specialized in
>>3660741Psychosis, no question. There's no reason to cast 20 times in 1 turn when you can pop Mania and clear a room in 1 cast.
>>3660742Versatility >>3660743What happens when you can't end combat in one turn?
>>3660748You've still got all your other toys, you just want hemopsychosis because you're going to burn psi fast.Alpha strike is what the game is all about. Tranquility is like pre-buff miniguns, comes out on top over a long enough period of time but combat is never going to last that long.
>>3660748>VersatilityAnyone got any good (well, decent) builds with versatility that actually make use of more than one weapon?
>>3660760desu, no. But I did a versatility build just for the lemurian spear. it was not worth it but it was fun
>>3660760There is a funny build where you go balls deep into versatility, max dexterity and go pistols with 3 PER. You put points into melee and 90% of melee skill gets converted to guns and it ends up dealing more damage with pistols than if you were to do some dex/per split.Nobody uses a melee weapon with that build but you could if you really wanted to.
>>3660749While you're generally right, there are exceptions. The numbers and terrain of places like Apogee and some native bosses make a first turn victory impossible
>>3660763Yeah, that's what I thought>>3660766>dealing more damage with pistols than if you were to do some dex/per split.that's exactly the build I was thinking were versatility just being used to buff one weapon instead of using two freely.you can use the knife but just shooting the pistol in melee range is more effective
>>3660760Stick versatility and cooked shot on a crossbow build, bring an acid pistol, now you've got a fast, on the go way of setting up deadly snares.>>3660767I agree, but I didn't mean that past turn 1 tranquility is better. Another difference is that a tranq build can't afford to lose HP and isn't using hemopsychosis, while a psychosis build can cast as normal and actually use its HP bar.If it does go on for a longer while then yes, tranquility is better.
>>3659879That's honestly some good loot between the both of them. If your a PSI fag that's easy money and decent jets/parts. >just kill em first simple as
>>3659879>>3660537>>3660546>>3660780What really bugs me about this encounter is that the player is not allowed to stealth on a jet ski but these fucks are?This is some bullshit
>>3660781How are you gonna hide on a jetski?
>haha I can now use mkiv grenades while every enemy is carrying mk2>first attempt at using them, I fumble and throw them at own feet>die
>>3660783under it xd
>>3660760I went with versatility for my tin-can LMG character. LMG in one hand, sledgehammer in the other. You can benefit from the Heavy Metal feat that way, and it's handy for saving bullets when it there's only one rathound to kill.But since that's HD content, it doesn't really count.
>>3660783Same way those two fucks do it, whatever it is
>>3660789They are the instruments of Styg sent to fuck you in the ass. It's divine intervention, you don't get that.
>>3660740>>3660742heavy duty made strength versatility a good buildhttps://underrail.info/build/?HhADAwoGAwUAUMKgAMKgAAAUAAAeAMKCZyY8UAAAAAAAwqBICCY7Yw0Vw59Vw6HCo0RQH2LCtsOgT-KdoAXiv4cF4r-bBd-8I played this to about lvl 25 and it fucks
>>3660781they arent stealthed, they come in from offscreen>>3660804wtf, I didnt select an image
>>3660770Hemo isn't necessary at all with tranq though. You can down to like 30% cost and at that point only AP matters
>>3660748>What happens when you can't end combat in one turn?You are going to witness what a difference 9 CON and a decent armor makes for survival.
>>3660804this is a hammer+HMG build?
>>3660821for most of the game, yesit ends up as balors + minigun
>>3660638So Styg is busy being an engine dev and Mac is busy making crapton of new assets, and they can both keep doing that indefinitely, but what the fuck is Phryg doing in the meantime?
>>3660824looks coolI'll give it a try, thanks
>>3660828mainly still working on underrail as I understand it
>>3660832Ah well that explains the patches I guess.
>>3660505The only thing regular steel is good for is making bullets, caltrops, and throwing knives.
>>3660879reinforcing gloves too, if you have a high q plate
>>3660546Its annoying that you can't bait the guy out any other way.
>>3660924its a guy and a chick
As someone who only uses tact vests, someone explain metal armor to me
Does anyone ever actually take that body horror feat from the health center quest and not just kill the robot or resist if you got the will?
>>3660379Huh? Armor slopped ss armor is 29%. 2 spec points brings it down to 25%, enough so nimble and bw brings it to 0
>>3660965Why not? Resolve doesn't matter, crit does.
>>3660962At the high end you can be hit with a sniper's aimed shot and actually survive instead of being turned into tomato paste. Metal armor is only good when you get to mitigation cap otherwise it's kind of underwhelming.
>>3660962Not all enemies use guns.
>>3660962Unless you want tac vests for the psi bonus, its as good as wearing nothing for a lot of encounters (melee, crossbows or even just aimed shots with something other than 5mm)Its still good early game since metal armor of low to medium quality is pretty much useless
>>3660994What about riot gear?
>>3661057I feel like majority of playerbase doesn't like it but I do. The most interesting part of riot gear is the fact that mechanical resistance(%) against melee is doubled, so here I had this crafted out high quality supersteel and death stalkers on dominating can at best scratch me wearing this and my dude only has 4 con.
>>3661057Riot gear is good extremely early since it gets a free +2 DT compared to tactical and there are a lot of melee enemies early on.Past that it becomes incredibly specialised. Good against Carnifex, good against locusts/spiders, that's it. It's still useful sometimes but those times are very rare. You should normally be wearing something else.
>>3661057I like how it looks.
>>3661097>>3661067>>3661065Is there a general guide on armor? My two playthroughs so far have both been psi with a psi beetle tactical vest and I don't know what else to use know I'm doing melee
>>3661128If you want high mobility and have high strength then use sloped super steel metal for pretty good DR and low penalty.If you want high mobility and have low strength then use infused hopper/pig/rathound, depending on if you want even more move points/hp/crit chance. You can use siphoner if you really want but the enemy will always have a small chance to hit you no matter how high your evasion is, so being shot at it always a risk.If you don't care about mobility go full tungsten and be nearly immune to mechanical.Tactical vest has no strength requirement and can make you nearly immune to any bullets not fired by sniper rifles, but you already knew that.There are some other meme options if you want and there are times when specific gear is appropriate (acid resist when in mutant territory, bio resist in mushroom forest, and so on), but that's for general purpose.
>>3661128I don't think there's a guide but most builds tends to have two sets of armor, one for stealth and one for general purpose. You really don't need any more than that unless you want to, for example some people on dominating craft a 100% electric resistance gear for coil spiders or those dungeons with floor that zaps you and you can just completely ignore mechanics with a full electric set.Aside from that almost every build can benefit from>rathound regalia +1 str 0% armor penalty>power fist +1 str>infused leather pig boots +30 carry capacity>large waist pack +50 carry capacity>lifting belt -5% mechanical resistance>night vision detection goggles>cloaking field>taser>food buff of every kindA lot of people ignore food, things like root soda or cooked bat make a bigger difference than people give them credit and things like +1 main stat are just obvious.
>>3661128I guess you can browse the wiki to check what different armors do.Infused leather armors have some special effects, for example infused rathound grants ~10% crit chance for weapons (not psi), siphoner armor has a lot of dodge and evasion.Some unique armors are useful too, JKK jacket has initiative, rathound regalia has movespeed.
>>3660111The compass being enabled completes this image.
>>3661137It's too easy to forget about food. Lasts too long to be on your mind, but too short that having to pay attention to it is just annoying. Maybe if we could use that thing the AI has where they just auto-consume food. Tag a stack or something.
>>3661172Zone transition if not in combat and not in stealth if tagged food and not food consume tagged food.
Is the Stunner too OP to be fun?
>>3661057riot gear is really underrated imo, helps neutralize some of the most annoying enemies in the game and not to mention it looks kewl
>>3659868how do I into pure PSI build as a newb?made it to core city with shotgun build but want to try something elsealso Tranquility or Psychosis
>>3661128certain mp bonuses ignore armor penalty, like sprint or contractionfurthermore, if you have such a bonus active, then the feat Hit and Run will refund those ap-ignoring mps, allowing you to potentially move a lot even with max armor penalty
>>3661250Underrail is hell. Jesus can't reach us here.
>>3661250Get back to work, Styg
Is there some autistic site with skill breakdowns or something? And general build help.I don't want to just follow builds blindly but I sure would like to know at what point it's not longer worth putting points in a skill. Like no one ever maxes the crafting skills or lockpicking or traps, everyone only goes up to 70 time magic, etc.Or if lacking that specific info, some place to find the most OP builds so I can see what they do with their skill points and feats and then use them as guidelines for max skill levels or something
some guy last thread listed some hybrid psy+melee builds, and he mentioned TC knife.Anyone got an example of a TC knife build?
>>3661277
>>3661280thanks!Why throwing at 61?
>>3661281(128)
>>3661284I mean what are you using it for? Grenades?
>>3661285note the little copy/pasted notepad cutouts near the bottom
>>3661286Oh yeah, sorry about that, I completely missed those.
Is there any way to have lots of movement points and also be tough enough to take hits or are you stuck doing one or the other ?
>>3661291Depends on your definition of "lots"If you want to be able to run to the opposite side of the map and hide behind a corner you have to go balls deep on MP and have 0 armor pentalty with rathound regalia plus tm plus drugs.Dodge builds can be mobile too and they can be very tough on average if you absolutely max it out, but its rng dependant. A tin can always protects you, dodge will sometimes just not work and you'll have to F9
>>3661294Basically I want to be able to actually peek around corners and walk back without needing to sprint every time.My current build is a LMG tin can and it's kinda unfun to have zero movement without sprint even if I win every fight without really moving out of my starting spot
>>3661295You can do a nimble tin can and thats more than enough MP for repositioning. You can have 40-50 MP without buffs/sprint/contraction and with those things you can really zoom around.Its a significant investment though - 2 feats and 2 spec points, not to mention the absolute fuckload of money needed for full supersteel armor.
>>3661291of courseyou can make a tough light armor build that has both 10 con and 10 agi, with feats like sprint, fancy footwork, hit and run, strider, and psycho temporal accelerationeat jumping beans, wear tabis or spring bootsor if you want to lean more into the toughness, be a full tungsten tank and have 7 agi, take sprint and hit and run, eat jumping beans and take the drifter tattoo TM is good here too>>3661295jumping bean, drifter tattoothats 15 mp right thereyou need 20 to move one square out and one square back, so if you went with slightly less than 95% armor penalty, you could have 20 basically constantlyanother option is to wear one of the exoskeletons; they give mp bonuses that ignore armor penalty as well
>>3661295Shit negro why did you pick the static turret build if you wanted to move around?
>>3661299>2 feats and 2 spec points, not to mention the absolute fuckload of money needed for full supersteel armor.That is a little expensive, yeah but it does seem fun>>3661300>10 con+10 agithat sounds cool, might give this a tryl.>>3661301I only realized being a static turret wasn't fun (for me) after trying it out once bro
>>3661275The wiki has a list of skill checks for quests and dialogues, so you can save points in certain places by just raising them to the point you need them.For example, I only raise effective persuasion to 45 to get SGS to side with the Black Eels. That's something like a 30 point spend, since it increases with mercantile and will.
I hope JKK budgeted for me stealing 10000+ charons worth of guns from the Gauntlet.I could have recycled all the guns and shot all the ammo and so on while I was in there, so this isn't morally wrong. There's no real difference between me doing that and me taking it and selling it. Morally speaking, it's fine.
>>3661320that sounds useful, I'll take a look, thanks
Looking at the psychokinesis list of abilities in the wiki, I noticed it doesn't have a basic attackIs it possible to do fight using only PK or do you have to have a main attack skill?
>>3661390You can cast electrokinesis with no cooldown.
>>3661390For mono-PK it's better to go the psi monk route, yeah.
>>3661275>Is there some autistic site with skill breakdowns or something? And general build help.https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=843557165
>>3661372stealing from oligarchs is never wrong
>>3661422this seems useful
What is the least feat intensive weapon? For example I know swords absolutely require flurry, spears live and die based on having impale and throw, what weapon just works with skill points and attributes and feats are just gravy?
>>3661503for melee, its hammershammer feats are nice but not necessarythe new HD weapons are broken all on their own
>>3661505you do need the belt though
>>3661503Chem Pistols imo. Yes, they do have two feats and they're too good to pass, but aside from that you're pretty much free to do as you please.Knives don't have a required knife specific feat to take for them to work, but there's a lot of melee support feats that you really want (like cheap shots and taste for blood) so I don't think it counts.
>>3661503Grenade Launcher, Hammer, and Knife can all be ran raw to great effect.
>>3661505>>3661507>>3661512So, in summary hammer (but wants the belt), grenade launcher, and to a lesser extent knoife because it doesn't *need* any feats but it would like them.
>>3661513GL "just works" but doing it without Practiced Parabola is dumb. Normal grenades wish they could never miss like a GL user with PP.
>>3661513Chem pistols need the belt, too.
>>3661518right, I missed the chem pistol post
>>3661513lmgs and miniguns toothey have feats they want, but they absolutely dont need them
>>3661142What's wrong with the compass?
speaking of grenade launchers, which is the best ammo type? 25mm or 40mm?
>>3661526it says "Im a retard">>366152840mmthermobaric especially
>>366152840mm is the only ammo, 25mm may as well not be in the game.You actually need more AP and more total carry weight to kill with 25mm. I tried to make it work but it was simply inferior in any meaningful way before even considering the Thumper.I think this could be easily fixed with reducing slightly the 40mm range while increasing meaningfully the 25mm range (also change the dumb short tube = more damage retardation).
>>3661530>>3661531you'd think styg would balance the game properly>>3661530>it says "Im a retard"look I'm just directionality challenged ok
>>3661536bruh, north is always the same directionit never changes
>>3661538It doesn't hurt to have a reminder
>>3661539This anon draws an L and an R on his hands.
>>3661546No I don'tYou just hold your hands facing outward with your index finger and thumb out and that will tell you which side is left
>>3661546I unironically don't remember which direction the sun rises
>>3661555It rises opposite of where it set. Hope that helps.
>>3661555From right.
>>3661555What the fuck same
>>3661291If you stack damage reduction instead of armor yeah. Most damage reduction comes from drugs so you'll be limited by the duration and cooldown of the drug.The technomedic exoskeleton is a good match for this. In addition to a special extra drug it also provides the ability to recharge your shield mid-combat using the energy in the skeleton. Really tanky. Here's my old technomedic hammer/lmg build as an example, just equip spring booties.
>>3661567>technomedic exoskeletonaround what level is viable to get that armor?
>>3661567>recommending post-endgame gear as a buildAnon, come on.
>>3661569>>3661570I literally go there as soon I turn in the drill part. The exoskeleton is right there at the beginning of the level. You don't even need stealth to get in and out but I take some stealth and a black cloth set anyway.
I am the psi bug now
>>3661570>post-endgame gearHD is only post-endgame if you go the combat route, and not even that if it's a good build tbqhwy. You can just make a beeline to the suit machine and back, especially if you can leave by riftwalking.
>>3661567>5 int, 3 per, 3 dex "doctor"Ehm no thanks I'll bleed out instead
>>3661580>18 strA doctor that strong just pats you on the back the bullets fly out of your body.
>>3661581he's Lenny and you're the rabbit
>>3661581Alongside the lungs I imagine
Which metal is best for each melee weapon? I'm guessing tri-chrome is the best for knives and tungsten for hammers. On my spear build I'm using tri-chrome spears and The Glaive, I just got a 177 quality steel plate would it be a good end game spear or should I make infused leather with it instead?
>>3661587Tungsten for everyone that cares about crit (spears get impale, this is you), tichrome for knives and some hammer builds, gloves is all the same.imo everyone that doesn't want tichrome wants tungsten, I'd use the plates for infused rathound armour.
>>3661590Is rathound really the best? I have some greater siphoner at 122 quality and thought it would be good to use for Tchort. Does any merchant sell good rathound leather or do I have to go hunting?
>>3661587for gloves all metals are the samefor knife its either tichrome or tungsten combat knife depending on your current dex (at the highest dex its tungsten)for sword its not so clear; I prefer supersteel for the precision bonus because it makes flurries more reliable and your damage gets insane anywayif you're not so reliant on flurry, then its tungstenred dragon is the best thoughfor spear its tungsten, with javelins for throwing most of the timefor hammer its tichrome sledge (even without tabis) with quake in the offhand
>>3661604Rathound is best for damage. Other leather types might be more useful defensively or have good utility, but for me it's kill faster.
>tfw there's not enough skill points for everything you wantI just want to do ALL the things dammit
>>3661640My last build had too many skill points so I pumped evasion at the end because I had literally nowhere else to put points into. It made me think that people who claim evasion is worthless on dominating might be wrong.
>>3661641kek, you think?
>>3661607I want to try a Javelin build, but then I realized you can't craft them. How is damage in late game?
>>3661640Be careful what you wish for.
>>3660107What do you use for the pixelated effect?
>>3661652>inb4 its just how the game shows the portrait and im dumb
What do you guys usually do with the Acorn? In my playthroughs I usually just sell it to the professor since I don't really need any money by then since I sell that reef glider and its useless for whoever takes it since no one will ever be able to collect them all. I also just found out you can give it to Bernard to have Gloria destroy it.
>>3661656Give it to Ezra of course, I'm an SGS citizen first.
>>3661653The pixelated effect happens naturally when you shrink the picture to the correct size using photoshop or whatever
>>3661680tiny version visibly pixelated
Do you bother turning on the lights of your characters house when you start a new play-trough?Autism check: do you turn them off when you leave?
>put points in chemistry at start hoping to craft grenades at lv 1>forget to put points in mechanics:(
>>3661659You're a Core City resident!
>>3661680Thanx
>>3661690I'm a sovereign citizen actually
never seen this random dungeon beforeright on the first quest, during the "turn on the bunkers"
>>3661724ok doing this at level 1 was a bad idea
>>3661724Wish it was possible to force every random location and event to spawn.
>>3661729there's a mod for that but it's not updated so it doesn't work
>>3661531>>366152825mm costs 10 less apI used the unique punisher with a mangonel. Most enemies do not require 40mm worth of damage to kill.
>>3661254bumping this guys post because I never play PSI and am curious
>>3661604booththough the best rathound leather is from the faceless machine rathounds
>>3661730Huh? It still worked last time I played, earlier this year.
>>3661254>>36617337 con 10 will 6-8/9 intget 75 thought control for locus but don't get any thought control abilitiespk for single target/defensive spells or/and metathermics for aoe/cheap spellstime magic is still good but your brain has fewer slots for them and you actually need your psi points so it's not a big deal if you skip it
>>3661730>>3661729>>3661740It still works, but it can't force every random thing. Some things take the same space, and random events are spawn differently from random dungeons.
Is there ever a reason to go above 10 con?
>>3661727A lot of the random dungeons are impossible at low levels. You're level 2/3 and they have goliath beetles or industrial robots or whatever. Not happening.
>>366174912 con gates tempered electricity, psi based electric damage is weakness of most tank/cans and this is a rare source of resistance to that
>>3661254Psychosis, go 9 CON for Last Stand and (if you like) SI, max WIL, 6-8 INT, distribute the rest to taste. You can shave some off WIL for more STR to make a tincan. Get Hemopsychosis asap. Level all 4 schools, prioritise biology and electronics in crafting for drugs + headbands.Neurology is shit, don't take it. Open every fight with mania'd AoE, mix and match schools for the situation but try to keep it to 2 schools at a time. Premed is obviously mandatory as soon as it's available.Distribute feats depending on which school you like the most. I like to take Force User every time, Locus is mandatory.When using Stasis remember you can use it to stretch out 1 turn states, and sometimes you don't want this like with Hemo. Coretech is your best option since they have headband components. Get cryo orb as soon as you get to Core City, you'll see why.
>>3661761(TM goes to 70 of course, forgot to say.)
How do I spear build?
>>3661749If your a hammerfag all the HP boosts help with your grand slam damage. Still it only applies if your on hard or Dom. On easy and normal most are gonna get turned to paste by any hammer with spikes. Hitting 1k health it's really easy there
>>3661777hoplite with riot gear w shieldor build with tm and fucking chuck it at ppl and run over pick it up stab/sweep everyone to deathalso craft good spears with shock and laser emitters. all of the unique spears are also kinda fun if you want to mess with them but none of them are amazing in the long termalso don’t forget the hathor camp with the jousting guy
Is throwing DOM viable? Javelins looks fun
>>3661732>Most enemies do not require 40mm worth of damage to kill.Of course not, but you're better off with a different type of gun for them. You already have the skill and you aren't starved for feats so it's easy to fit pretty much anything.The size of the aoe makes it so 25mm is effectively a single target weapon and there are cheaper ways to take out a single enemy.
>>3661781throwing knives are dom viable
>>3661781Some guy beat dominating with crowbar, with that everything is dominating viable.
>>3661781I've done that before they honestly are OP as with spear throw fully specced. Could kill nagas on a crit. Just be sure to get quick pockets to get a regular spear out.
>>3661790Aren't Javelins classes as weapons?
>>3661792Javelins are spears but you still need to have the feat for you to get their benefits. Same thing applies for the glaive and some other uniques that boasts specific feats
>>3661793Explain quick pockets to me then because I thought it only affected utilities
>>3661801doesnt it decrease ap cost for equipping stuff in combat by 50%
>>3661801Quick Pockets reduces the AP cost of equipping weapons or utilities from your inventory during combat.
>>3661647spear throw damage gets insanea jav will kill any non-boss for sure, unless they have particularly high DR and HP, like a nagathe real reason to use a jav off-hand is the low ap cost; as low as 1 with the spear throw AP specif you need to kill something strong, just use a good tungsten spear>>3661656Gloria.>>3661685I turn on the lights of my sgs apartment when I'm there and turn them off as I leave. In my core city house, I dont do that, but I do make sure to lock it.
>>3661809>>3661806It costs 50 fucking to switch weapons? How is Javelin throwing ever worth it at that price? Even with quick pockets that's 25. Is there any other modifiers that decrease the cost?
>>3661813quick pockets isn't that usefulI don't know why you would need to equip two javelins
>>3661817With maxed out spear throw you can launch shit like 10 tiles right? You might not be able to easily get to that, but will want to throw again
>>3661819so it's for sniping multiple (or one if you miss) priority targets at range that you can't los and that won't just die to grenades while also fighting other enemies that saves you 25 apfor a feat point
>>3661813quick pockets spec
>>3661827>>3661822>>3661812>>3661790How about something like this?
>>3661831https://underrail.info/build/?HhAGBgYDAwYAwqAAwqAAAMKgUFBaAG5uAABkAAAARgDCoAA5KMKVRMKUBg3CrEsvMcKFwocSwpPCtnkr4p2NCOKfhAHis6ID4rOkA9--
>>3661832I dislike the feat order.premeditation is pretty good and why else do you have 6 int
>>3661838Feat's not necessarily in order6 int to help with crafting as it's a skill point heavy build needing max melee and throwing
>>3661840the skill point heavy part is taking hacking and lockpicking and pickpocketing
>>3661846How else am I supposed to get everything?
>>3661850
>>3661850you niggas need to do a 0 hacking 0 lockpick 0 pickpocket build just to see how little you're missing out on
How the fuck do I stop missing everything with my hammer
>>36618540 hacking 0 lockpick 0 pickpocket 0 stealth 3 strTruly an eye-opening experience, although it probably helps if you already know whats in all those locked rooms and containters (its shit).
>>3661817I did a build that had tranq MT with javs so I was able to spam orb and destab with 2 javs throws and a nade or cryokinesis. Mostly I had quick pockets to equip next round if anything lived or there was one guy far away.>the spam was insaneIf anything could of done more if I got fatal throw as well
>>3661864How is accuracy with spear throw?
>>3661832A lot of your skills are way too high. With house bonuses+boost equipment+temporary buffs they look like this. You could easily save loads of points on lockpicking+hacking+crafting and not notice it.
>>3661869Alright, lets say I take them off. What do I add?
>>3661858Use TK punch for stuns or grounding for sit still.If you don't have psychokinesis then I mean that's your problem isn't it.
>>3661870No idea, I don't like spears. All I know is you can save skill points.
>>3661867You prob want 100 at most but that's for medium range like 5 tiles on tincans it's 90%. If you stunned a guy you can prob have a 70% chance a few times further. At full range you prob looking at 30% or 50% going at max throwing prob. I had like 130 effective last time I remembered but you won't need to nuke most guys from max range
>>3661870chemistry
Why is this thread so active recently? New update or something?
>>3661881the game was on sale a week ago I guess
>>3661867NVM so at around 190 effective you'll have it at 40%. My DEX is at 10 though with 120 put into throwing.pic below I got a crit off but most things aren't surviving a 3000 damage hit especially if you got an EW off as well
>>3661817Quick Pockets is one of the best feats and a level 1 grab because of the utility slot. You can bring the full team (Grenade, Flashbang, Net, Taser) while keeping the bonus effect of a non-utility belt, or equip the utility belt to add Poison Caltrop to your party.
>>3661656I was going to give it to the Faceless, but they told me my memories could have been altered and it could be a trap. So I might as well just give it Ezra. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>3661656i usually give it to oculus. gloria is such a cool option tho
>>3661893why stop there?
