>Blocks you're path
>>3663425I remember this one line that goes something like this:>... and from boredom, from habit we repeat...but I can't remember which character says it nor when. Does anybody recognize it?
>>3663425>*hidden body>*100% escape chance TweedleDum&Dee covenant
I just want to thank you all anons for introducing me to Black Souls on this magical website since 2019. If it weren't for Black Souls I would get back in to drawing or met the friends that I have today. So thank you all anons. And may we found our Alice soon.
>>3663425>already a thread up>spamming shitty generals on /vrpg/sasuga black souls shitters
>>3663425Can we just not make BS thread until dead red hood released?
>>3663475ripoff and error or trial and ripoffWho sounds better?
Who's the most racist character?
>>3663565"Papa you're cheating on me?"
>>3663565Something similar happened to Unis.
I don't see why we don't just move to /vg/ if we're going to keep a pseudo-general>inb4 I don't like /vg/ cultureWho the fuck is going to post in the threads but us anyway? They'll stay the same, the only difference is it's not a board so slow that the threads might get bumped off from a lack of interaction.
>>3663604No. Just look at how utterly ravaged Project Moon community was by the move to /vg/. This was never a problem while /vst/ was still a thing.Also, /hgg2d/ is a shithole. We do NOT want to end up like that.
>>3663606>Also, /hgg2d/ is a shithole./hgg2d/ also is a /vg/-centric board in culture to begin with.
>>3663604/vg/ is a fast board, that alone will lead to the most inane kind of posts made just to bump the thread, and that will lead to an inevitable dip in quality. That's one. And two, at least /vrpg/ has a clear theme, unlike /vg/. Oh, and three, generals are now allowed on the /v/alkans.
>>3663623>generals are now allowed on the /v/alkans.incorrect according to a recent Elin thread on /v/>>>/v/695406089
>>3663630>/v/I'm talking about the splits.
>>3663589Huh, I thought the one in the pic was Unis. Leiden and Unis are Node's children too, right? Since she is the white queen they talk about
>his Alice has tits
>his Alice has cock
>>3663606PM got fucked by gachashit and retards defending it. Not strictly a /vg/ problem.
>>3663814>>3663823>
>>3663879i dont remember this scene
>>3663899
>>3663924I must have skipped it/this character because I'm not into yaoi
So is tco a cuckqueen?Ending f kinda confirmed it... and the whole three fake alices
I made this silly doodle from peeps' suggestions. I will make a pure BS one after this.
>>3663984Cute thanks anonAlso anyone knows what this gif is referencing? I remember seeing it before somewhere...
>>3663475you're using pics from a bait picture made by a /v/ fagkys
>>3663985wine cellar map in maymay's jewelbox
>>3664009Sorry, i meant the dancing, i feel like i've seen it somewhere else before
>>3663565She would just join them
>>3663970
>>3664010I really didn't like nodeThe bunny stuff was a big turn offIdol queen on the other hand...
>>3664017Faggot
>>3664018No i also didn't like the homo lizardI liked Prickett and MabelWould have loved node if she wasn't bunny them, she should have been a mix of unis and leiden
>>3664011It's not impossible you saw the exact same thing before but you just didn't remember it.
>>3664021How the fuck can you not like bunnies? Did you get bit by one?
>>3664030Bunnies eat their own poop and that's pretty gross (I think)
>>3664031Almost any animal eats its own poop. And the bunnies are visually appealing, and that's all that matters.
>>3664036Bunnies eat their babies too sometimes and that's pretty scary (but that's just me)
I only liked the music in this game and since it was not created by the author, the game as a whole is crap.
Why do people love this trash?
>>3664043Any animal, if there is not enough food, will eat their young, especially birds.
>>3664047>especially birdsDodobros...
>>3664047...Bunnies killed my grandma or something (I'm lying that never happened, I just don't like bunnies)
>>3664030Leaf looks kinda weird today.
>>3663734>Leiden and Unis are Node's children too, right?I don't believe so. There's only one set of them in the entire game, while any children that have been bred throughout the events of BS2 show up in Winterbell IIRC.
What are some features or changes you would add in Black Souls 3 to improve on bs2?
>>3664184If you are about to be jumpscared, instead your favourite character quietly comes out of the screen and gives you a hug
>>3664184No more free actions, or just less ways to exploit combat using it. I'd also like for companions to come back in fights in some sort of way. Maybe only being able to summon one per fight. I also hope the domain gimmick comes back in a way. It made fights actually kinda hard and not just "muh stats". Oh yeah, no more H-scene toggle
>>3664184A happy ending with my wife.
>>3664184Add some grand strategy elements on top of regular combat.
>>3664184Make it a full-on CRPG
>>3663846PM got fucked by normalfags from Twitter latching onto it
>>3663475>foreveralona rpg
>>3664184Maymay get's more content and we go back to save Prickett and tco
>>3663846>PM got fucked by gachashit and retards defending itTHIS
>>3664278>spoilerWhat about Node?
>>3664184Get rid of all free actions. I really hated that about the BS2 combat system. Weapon swapping was cool and fun for a little while but it got tiresome. Items were the worst offender by far, however. Making any other sort of recovery irrelevant and being able to refresh cooldowns. Completely retarded and not fun
>>3664282What about her?She can join in the late game and in the harem ending of threeIf it doesn't end with grimm just taking over the idiots place as the dreamer
>>3664184Make stats relevant, dunno how he'll do that though with all the souls being perma upgrade. The domain gimmick was cool, keep that. Bring back companions also, but I'm afraid that'll make bs3 another generic rpgmaker rpg combat wise. Maybe a puzzle like elements in battle will be fun instead of spamming free actions everytime that makes extra turn rings mandatory.
>>3664282>Mabel has two right hands
Man, going back to 1 after 2 feels so....primitive. It's surreal how much he improved with only a single year between releases, this is a jump in quality I haven't seen since Warcraft 1 to 2, which was also somehow a year.
>>3664184Either take away weapon swapping in battle OR remove the whole "whichever weapon you end the turn on, all weapons get that attribute the next turn" shit. As others said, it started fun but just made the game fucking tedious by the end.Just fucking get rid of item use being a free action, it made it so the only way it was possible to die was if you got oneshot.
>>3664299>Make stats relevantThat would be easy to do, but at the same time it would just turn fights into "you simply don't win if you don't meet the stat threshold" as the only way to make stats matter would be to make it so the game is NOT beatable at lvl 1 if you use the right gear.
>>3664046Zoomer nihilism and atheism lol
>>3663565https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F4gG7rXw1s
>>3664348>Zoomer nihilismThis is a hopechad game>atheism Where did that come from?
>>3664348Idk about nihilism but nihility is pretty cute in this gameAlso you can't feel sadness without love>>3664417Sauce on that post
>>3664454I assumed it's an edit.
>>3664348My wife is a saint, though?
Alright bros just started learning how to draw, here's my first piece. How long you think until I can start making 6 figures as an indie game dev
I like Mabel!
>>3664615Instantly if you manage to appeal to autistic retards. Try to make your anime girls a bit cuter and have a vague setting
>>3664671>it's all a reference to an anime from the 80s>that's it, that's why he's a dog
>>3664671>>3664697Ok so 2 questions, the first of which I'm not gonna bother spoiling because Holmes is such a minor nothing character you see twice in the whole game.So what is his deal? Is Jack a split personality and he doesn't know the person he's tracking is actually himself, or is he just a killer deep down and the whole Detective thing is a mask to throw people off his trail?The other is, I know what Vernai is because he looks and sounds the same regardless of madness, I know what the NPCs are that become monsters when you're sane as it's a pic related thing, but what about the NPCs that still maintain their same form when you're not crazy, but they still speak complete gibberish?
>>3664714>Holmes>minor character>he doesn't knowGo rewatch the movies on the date with Prickett.
>>3664722Yeah I know, he had a thing for Edith, that's why he gets mad if you wear the ring to the fight.
>>3664046why weren't you smothered in your sleep?
>>3664184The number one change for combat should be removing/severely limiting the amount of items that are free actions. Healing items especially shouldn't be free actions, and buffing items likely shouldn't be either. The second change would probably be to change how stat changes are handled, as compounding multipliers get really fucking ridiculous really fucking quickly, though it'd fuck with SL1 runs in the process unless they can substitute some kind of super RotBG for the stats. The third change would be to make extra actions far more limited, or at least make it not nearly as easy to stack close to a dozen of them with virtually zero downside.Anyone bitching about weapon swapping is blaming the wrong thing, and neutering or outright removing it won't help to fix the combat at all.
>>3664714>Holmes is such a minor nothing character you see twice in the whole game.Holmes isn't a minor nothing character, someone like Chikerost would be a minor nothing character. Holmes has more relevance to the plot than I think you realize.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Leopold,_Duke_of_AlbanyAlso yes, the Holmes/Jack thing is a split personality type of issue, his case file in the Mental Ward and DLC 3 state as much.
>>3664776The number one change would be to eliminate combat altogether and make a VN instead.
>>3664779Being a reference to a real person connected to other characters who are references to real people, doesn't give someone narrative relevance. They don't really DO anything with his connection to Edith.
>>3664790>They don't really DO anything with his connection to Edith.They do plenty with his connection to Edith, he's just not a main character like Grimm or Node or so on.
>>3664784DRH in two more weeks, anon.
>>3664784>VNNo. BS 3 needs to be a CRPG like WotR.
>>3664184I would love it if Toro stopped copying more and more things from other media and focused on developing the already existing lore and characters (aside from Red Hood).
>>3664801>aside from Red HoodAHAHAHAHA NICE ONE ANON!
>>3664808Poor Mary
>>3664186Free actions but items are able to be used only once during a turnSo you can chug a mana AND health estus, but not either twiceEven clocks wouldnt be OPItems shouldnt be something you can just buy easily from vendors, maybe >>3664184Proper fleshed out covenanting mechanisms, not just "pay souls for cgs"Maybe only one covenant allowed at a timeSome covenants are hostile towards each other, etcIf BS3 is about "quick NG+" like BS2 then you might aswell lean on to it and add more exclusive per run shit
>>3664336You cant deny BS1 is way comfier
>>3664723Hes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Leopold,_Duke_of_Albany
>>3664790>They don't really DO anything with his connection to Edith.Its not verified or anything but its certainly because Edith was pretty much a cut character, only really showing up in the VNIt would have been cool as fuck if Jack refused to die, and he would chase after you through out the game, getting stronger each time, to avenge Ediths death, kinda like Lindamea chases you in BS1
>>3664832Cute
>>3664835>Items shouldnt be something you can just buy easily from vendors, maybeIt's not really the supply of items that's the issue, at best you're just encouraging NG+/Chaos Dungeon farming instead.
I gotta admit I never know you could buy clocks from Node until recently after I beat the whole game. I thought the "make me watch" option was to watch her fuck the bear or masturbate or something.
>>3664864>I thought the "make me watch" option was to watch her fuck the bear or masturbate or something.Your brain is rotten
>>3664855Strong items could be covenant based (just to give better rewards for certain covenants), and only stack to a certain level, to discourage stackingSo strong situational items would only be used where they fitItem spam in BS2 is really only a problem with clockI dont care if the player uses buff items, although it does make buff spells that take turns worthless, but that is easily fixed problem
>>3664887What? You think thats below Node? Haigha AND Mary are her daughters
>>3664910The difference is that Node only has sex with you. She's not a whore.
>>3664912>She's not a whore.
>>3664908>Strong items could be covenant basedYou'd have to completely shift the covenant system for that to really mean anything, otherwise you'll have BS2's system of instantly slamming enough souls down their gullets to hit the max rank.>and only stack to a certain level, to discourage stackingSo the Tales approach? I don't think that'd really fit well with the BS formula. Maybe a cap on what you can use per combat for each item but keeping the basic carry limit the same might be a better place to start, that way you're still limited on what you can use per fight but aren't forced to constantly backtrack to restock at a bonfire/shop.>Item spam in BS2 is really only a problem with clockI know gunclock gets memed about a lot, but it really does fall off by the end of DLC 2/by the time DLC 3 starts. Objectively speaking, the free action healing/buff stacking does a lot more to cheese the later fights in BS2 than gunclock ever would, and it's a million times faster as well. Knives are also technically broken, but the Speed stat is ignored by most people in most cases later on for good reasons, so I get why they're not brought up nearly as often.>I dont care if the player uses buff items, although it does make buff spells that take turns worthless, but that is easily fixed problemIt doesn't make all of the buff spells worthless, but those that aren't have some other effect tied to them (I.E. Crit up/separate stacking Attack multiplier) rather than just the basic core stat ups the items give. There really isn't an easy solution for keeping the basic ass Omnibless/Ambition style buffs relevant throughout the game though. Planned obsolescence might actually be the lesser evil here unless you really want to get restrictive and have half of the fights in the game say fuck items as part of their domains or something like that.
>>3664184it would be cool if covenants were questlines instead of just having to pump them full with souls
>>3664946>You'd have to completely shift the covenant system for that to really mean anything, otherwise you'll have BS2's system of instantly slamming enough souls down their gullets to hit the max rank.I already addressed this in a previous post, covenants should also be meaningful and you shouldnt be able to get every single one in a single playthrough>So the Tales approach?Dont know what Tales is, i just know that it would fix the issue, but obviously some retards mainly contrarians on /v/ would complainHow come it wouldnt fit? A videogame is a videogame, i dont think theres any reason you couldnt have such a system. I could have instead suggested an inventory weight limit, which would actually be way more frustrating than just an item cap per item.If you dont want people to spam items, make it painful for them to do so, its shifting the balancing of the fights off from the GAME to the PLAYERYou want to cheese every single fight? Or you just suck in general? Well too bad, youre going to have to backtrack and find items to beat the bosses, you cant blame the game for (You) sucking at it.>but it really does fall off by the end of DLC 2Yeah but figuring that one out early can trivialize literally EVERY bossfight, i know i cheesed God fish with it, but that was super late when i discovered itBut then again, Gunclock isnt even the broken one pre DLC3, its requiem+clockBuff spells are largely useless, because you can just by 999 screws + whatever buff items you want in the end game, use them at the start of combat to boost your stats etc, its also annoying shit to do for multiple attempts at a boss, i know iam not going to sacrifice a turn in a tough fight just to save on some items/not get pissed off at menuingBuffs should sacrifice a turn, and last longer, with obviously clear timers for when they end, then you can give different buff spells to the player as rewardsEach one can supplement any build, but Omnibless would be too strong to be a basic reward
I liked the soul feeding cgs. I hope they come back. We really missed out when upgrading covenants was simply a soul cost. I want her to work for it AND reward me afterwards
>>3664909Very nice
>>3664996Not mine. I can't draw for shit.
>>3664837I prefer the Library, even if it is a little lonely. Not as lonely as the outside but I wish someone else was there. Hein, Miranda forma muerte maybe even Victoria or the Chick would have been great had EMMM not decided to commit to that isolating atmosphere.
>>3664960>covenants should also be meaningful and you shouldnt be able to get every single one in a single playthroughEven BS1 still let you grab all of the covenants with some fuckery, artificially preventing players from joining covenants and forcing cycles for that would just be ass. I can't even remember any of the souls games pulling shit like that off the top of my head.>Dont know what Tales isTales of (Symphonia, Vesperia, etc.) has various carry limits on items on first playthroughs, but they're also ARPGs where avoiding and mitigating damage on the fly is a lot more reasonable to expect from the player (and in turn design systems around) than a ATB JRPG where you basically can't ever see what the enemy is about to do or react in real time to it outside of trying to interrupt specific charged moves.>A videogame is a videogame, i dont think theres any reason you couldnt have such a system.A videogame is a videogame, but some systems make a lot more sense in specific genres. Neither BS1 or BS2 are designed in such a way that such a system would make sense, and I can't imagine EMMM completely changing BS3's approach to the overall design and going full survival horror for it considering the series inspirations, though I get this is all hypotheticals. >I could have instead suggested an inventory weight limit, which would actually be way more frustrating than just an item cap per item.Both would be pointlessly tedious.>If you dont want people to spam items, make it painful for them to do so, its shifting the balancing of the fights off from the GAME to the PLAYERIf you want to hit items with the nerf bat, imposing limits on them being free actions would be the place to start. The issue with items isn't the raw supply, most of the problems caused by items would arise even if items weren't free actions and you used buffs instead by dint of how the stat multipliers work in the series, so you'd need to address that too.
>>3665032>Yeah but figuring that one out early can trivialize literally EVERY bossfightLike with knives, it cheeses most of the main game bosses and up through most of DLC 2, but after that the damage output really just stops being as worthwhile compared to what you could (and should) be doing. I'm sure you already know, but Hans is another early gamebreaker and unlike gunclock it literally never falls off if you know how to abuse it.>But then again, Gunclock isnt even the broken one pre DLC3, its requiem+clockRequiem's always been funny to me. As far as game design goes it's essentially a free win button pre-DLC 3, but you also don't need it at all if you know how to properly play the game. >Buff spells are largely uselessAgain, it depends on the spell. Buff spells that give nothing but the core stat ups that the items give end up largely being useless for obvious reasons. There's still other offensive buffs that come with useful effects in addition to their core stat ups like Crit up (I.E. King's Orders, Royal Tea), or provide effects that stack with those core buffs (I.E. Phalanx, Self-Mutilation) that make them very much worth using. You also still have several defensive/utility oriented buffs that items can't provide/provide effects that stack with existing effects like Soul Shield, Indignation, Absolute Precision, Knight's Pride and whatnot.>and last longer, with obviously clear timers for when they end, then you can give different buff spells to the player as rewardsBS needing a better combat UI aside, you'd still run into the general problem of Omnibless (or especially Ambition) just obsoleting most of the single stat spells once you do get it. You'd need for those single stat buffs to immediately max out their relevant stat to even stand a chance of being viable compared to the former buffs, the action efficiency is just too good.
>>3665032>artificially preventing players from joining covenants and forcing cycles for that would just be assEverything in a game is artificialIf EMMM had decided that covenants would be free, then added a soul cost to them in BS2, you would call that change "artificial"It is a pointless word to describe it with.The games already encourage you to play through them multiple times, to see events, to find out secrets etcLocking covenants based on events or quests you have completed and locking others, as the content really isnt at all required to beat the game even in BS2Not every covenant should be locked, some should, based on other covenantsFor example, Jubjub in BS2Shes an evil bitch, (atleast her role is)Theres a good excuse to lock her covenants, or add a quest for her covenant, where you have to kill the other girls to unlock it, just like the Kaki questDoing this would give MEANING to the covenants, the rewards could be made better tooRight now they are pointless, you pay a price, you get some CGs and you get a stat boost, thats it, boring as fuck>imposing limits on them being free actions would be the place to start.But then you couldnt have soft boosts from items, nobody wants to use a fairly shitty boost item if it took away their turnYou would have to make turns less important to balance some items, or make the items themselves super powerfulWith item limits, and or item use limits, you could have fairly weakish items, that can be used alongside your other spells and items, giving you greater control over what happens during the next turnStuff like single turn bursting with items become viable, something SL1 runs can utilizeBoss fights where you have a turn limit where you lose can become possibleItems that combo with other skills you use, become possible1/2
>>36650322/2Nobody wants to throw weakening items on a boss, have the boss fucking hit you for insane damage, and only THEN get to defend yourself or attack the boss backIn BS2 MOST items would be absolutely underpowered if they ended your turnWhats the point of using an Estus charge, if the boss is just going to fucking smack you again? It wouldnt work for most players.>>3665034>Again, it depends on the spellYes, MOST buff spells are useless, specifically, those that give you buffs that you CAN get from other itemsTheres literally no reason to use Omnibless other than convenience or being clueless
>>3665046Wouls you rape tenma if given the chance?(You are a musclar chad and she wants it so it's more of an cnc case than real rape)
>Use poison or any debuff a single time on a boss>Miss>I guess it doesnt work>Proceed to Ghostfire a boss from 100% down to 0, 5% at a time>>3664184Actually tell the player in a separate chat log what effects his spells just had, when shits immune to your abilities and when you just missed instead of showing a message for a microsecond for what happenedBS2 would be immediately much more approachable and actually probably EASY if you were just told what the fuck just happened
>>3664184Samefagging to say a day/night cycle with radiant AI would be cool
>>3665035>Everything in a game is artificialIn the most simplistic sense, yes, everything in a game is artificial due to it being made by the creator. Properly designed games are generally made in such a way where the creator's design decisions feel natural and intuitive enough to the player though. When the game design feels unnatural and unintuitive, that's when you tend to get bitching.>The games already encourage you to play through them multiple times, to see events, to find out secrets etcI feel like there's a pretty big difference in approach here between you and EMMM. If there's one thing I've learned from seeing how EMMM approaches shit in the series, it's that he generally tries to not limit player options as much as possible. Under your system, once you have that covenant, that's it for that cycle. For as long as that cycle might take you're effectively stuck with a dead slot regardless of whatever changes you might want to make/actually do make to your playstyle, and you're stuck seeing only that covenant's sub-plot for that cycle which pads the fuck out of the time needed to see the plotlines for all of them (BS2 has 17 fucking covenants, 17 potential cycles FYI).Even though the balancing and interactivity with the covenants leaves a lot to be desired, BS's multiple covenant approach is a much smarter method for letting the player pick and choose what they want their playstyle to be like, and it helps cut down on unnecessary repetition and tedium, especially in longer games like BS2 and what BS3 will probably be like as well. I think your approach here would work in short and linear games, but not BS, even with cycling in play.>Right now they are pointless, you pay a price, you get some CGs and you get a stat boost, thats it, boring as fuckThe covenants were never the focus of the plot, they have always been side characters at best. For what it's worth, I wish EMMM gave the player more to do with them, but plot priorities are what they are.
>>3665091>But then you couldnt have soft boosts from items, nobody wants to use a fairly shitty boost item if it took away their turnThere's some potential middle ground between having items not take an action and having items take an action, which you actually touch upon in your own post.>With item limits, and or item use limitsI already mentioned keeping the core item carry limit unchanged, and only limiting the amount of items that you can take into/use in combat earlier in the reply chain, but if you want to spitball you can. You could put a low hard cap on the number of different items you can carry into combat (with variable in-combat carry caps depending on the item), but have them all be free actions until you run out of stock for the fight. You could sort of steal a page out of the SMT playbook and riff off of the Press Turn system, having half action and full action increments depending on what you do in combat (I.E. basic items/buffs being half actions, attacking being a full action, potentially have moves that cost more than one full action etc.) though it'd probably need a much lower cap on bonus action stacking and individual fine-tuning regarding action consumption, though this could also open up the possibility for buffs that last for X actions rather than X turns if you want to keep going with the weaker item variant idea. You could tie what and how many items count as free actions per turn to your start of combat Speed stat and let's be honest, Speed needs some reason to exist after you hit 1k, with better items requiring more Speed to count as free actions and maybe taking up more of the "free" Speed that the other items could have used that turn. I can probably spitball other shitty ideas if I wanted to waste more time on it, but I think you get the point.>MOST buff spells are uselessI want to say there's more non-item buff spells than item ones, but I haven't checked.
>>3664338I think he acknowledged it was a bit too much considering God's Angels is basically designed to be so good you dont have to bother with weapon swapping anymore.
>>3664792>>3664840I guess I just expected more of Holmes, more like an Eileen the Crow thing. He's (assumedly) the first NPC you meet after Dinah in NG unless you meta that shit and intentionally die 10 times in the Rabbit Hole to get SEN to 0 with Black souls to meet Red. He warns you about Jack, he kills Mary at P4 (but you dont know that), and then....he just disappears until you go to Upper Lutwidge, reveals "aha, *I* was Jack the Ripper all along!", and then dies unceremoniously. I wasnt expecting Red or Dinah levels of interaction but for the person that introduces you to the first hub of the game, he just kinda comes and goes.
>>3665046Damnit Mii-chan, why do you always have to stream BS while I'm at work? Fucking Eastern Euro time zones.
I always found it wierd that Gacy is the only American serial killer in the game
pributt jumpscare
Is there a girl mod? I don't like the idea of playing as a guy.
>>3665169No, kill yourself
>>3665169There's an alice SKIN
>>3665169Play Red Hood's Woods which came out before and is a prequel, in that case
>>3665046
>>3665365Please marry me tenma
Is this just going to become the Tenma general?
>>3665427I hope not.
>>3665427I hope she cosplays mabel at some point
>>3665508Are those socks?
>>3664282Grimm is out doing fuck all so Node is forced back into the grandma's basement with Mabel
>>3665638I think the implication is just that she has rabbit feet
>>3665764OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONODESISTERS, OUR RESPONSE?!
>>3665778Use spoiler tags, faggot. That part is spelled out to you outright by the snowmen. Coming from BS1 you should already know about the trick from the Bandersnatch encounter.
>>3665764>>3665779HOT
>>3665781Nta, Oh yeah i forgot that
>>3665779Rabbit whore wasn't just some turn of phrase.
>>3665791>Rabbit wh-ACK!
>>3665781See I just fight Bandersnatch every time because it's 1m souls so it doesnt even cross my mind.
>>3665781>game spells it out to youI mean if you expect the player to "not pick a choice in literally every choice in the game until they stumble onto the one it's referring to", then sure.
>>3665822now this is a 2 int posttry playing the game before posting next time
>>3665800Node is a rabbit whore.But she's a whore for you only.
>>3665824I got every ending just bruteforcing the game and doing the opposite of what I did the previous run, you dont have to think.
>>3665828>you dont have to think.>I mean if you expect the player to "not pick a choice in literally every choice in the game until they stumble onto the one it's referring to", then sure.No shit you didn't think, you didn't even read either.
>>3665831And yet I still did it. But I had a lot of time on my hands to go grug mode and bruteforce it.Also let's be real, the vast majority of people that beat the game just looked it up. That's just how gamers are now, especially considering this is a series heavily influenced by Dark Souls which is a franchise specifically built around the idea that the players are helping each other out and not leaving them to figure it out on their own.
>>3665781It is kind of insane from any dev to expect the player to see that message thoughLet alone connect it to the scene at the startLet alone actually having the prerequisites already unlocked before doing so
>>3665825Do you even know what that word means? "Whore for you only" sounds retarded.
>>3665833>It is kind of insane from any dev to expect the player to see that message thoughThis is the post of someone that doesn't check every pot or talk to every NPC in a RPG.
>>3665834Anon that's literally the foundation of the Madonna-Whore Complex, wanting a girl to be pure and virginal until she's in the bedroom with you.
>>3665837I dont know, its a pretty big game to be doing thatLet alone doing it twice with the sen mechanics
>>3665840>I dont know, its a pretty big game to be doing thatBS2 isn't even half as big as some basic bitch Dragon Quest games. >Let alone doing it twice with the sen mechanicsNow this is just laziness.
>>3665832>And yet I still did it. But I had a lot of time on my hands to go grug mode and bruteforce it.Congratulations, but if you paid attention to the text box literally immediately before that one, you could have cut down on the time spent brute forcing shit dramatically.
>>3665842Games arent supposed to be busywork
>>3665850RPGs aren't meant for those with poor attention spans.
>>3665839I repeat my question, do you know the meaning of the word "whore"?
>>3665858Forgive anon, porn has made him think you have to be a whore if you are sexual with your man in the bedroom
>>3665858Yes, a woman
>>3665781>Use spoiler tags, faggot Never. I will never use them, you being a backseat janny will never make me use them, and I will continue to push for us to not use them until talking about spoilers is normalized like in every community that has been around for years>inb4 but what about the newcomersSpoiling and thus potentially ruining the game will teach them to not show up to discuss a plot they haven't finished. It either gatekeeps new people who dont want to be spoiled and makes them finish the game first (which is good), or they will be people who just dont care if they're spoiled in the first place (who are irrelevant to the discussion)You dont like it? Too fucking bad, I wont stop.
>>3665893>and I will continue to push for us to not use them until talking about spoilers is normalized like in every community that has been around for yearsYou are a nigger and quite possibly a faggot too. Take Lorde's advice to heart.
>>3665893kys my man!
>>3665893The bird got to this one already, no saving him.
>>3665903>>3665904No. It's not a sekrit club, people who click on a game thread should already know what happens in its plot and if they get spoiled then they shouldn't have clicked. You guys are the only ones on 4chan that I know that act this way.
nah
>>3665990>You guys are the only ones on 4chan that I know that act this way.And thats a bad thing because?You are inconvenienced by them, because youre a phonefag?
>>3666022>You are inconvenienced by them, because youre a phonefag?No, I have spoilers activated by default in 4chanx. I just hate the thread culture as it's so counter to the rest of the site and want to destroy it.
>>3666032Sounds literally like a phonefag issue, otherwise you wouldnt care, because it literally isnt a problem
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the vtubers playing this and their fans are so fucking cringeworthy I can't fucking take it
>>3666054>vtubersI thought Tenma was the only one playing BS
>>3666056no, it's multiple I've seen posted and they're all screeching unfunny cunts
>>3666058Tenma is funny fuck offI don't know any other, name them and i will judge
>>3666110you're just a generic twitch simp for a screeching cunt, only difference is she has a pseudo loli fox PNG as avatar instead of a facecam with her tits almost out. You're just a parasocial faggot romanticising unfunny parasites
>>3666037It's not about the spoilers in the idea that it's keeping people from being spoiled because if you come here, that's on you and you deserve to be spoiled. No it's the entire faggoty secret club mindset that makes it feel like people are "sharing secret knowledge" when just talking about a fucking videogame that isn't that well-written to begin with. It's not that you're using them, it's WHY it looks like you're using them. You will never see this from Fatefags, they tell you to fuck off and read the VN before posting. Or they'll just tell you the lore answer because if you asked a question then expect to be spoiled. Same with D&Dfags, Falloutfags, Kotorfags, really any other group here. This is exclusively a Black Souls thing.
>>3666038
>>3665893What if they show up just to ask for a link, or have just a couple beginner questions and their post happens to end up sandwiched between a lorefag exchange so wether they like it or not they're bound to skim their posts, it's not their fault. You're being a cunt for no fucking reason, using spoilers is simply a matter of common decency.
>>3666164Sounds to me like everyone else doesn't want new players to have a good time discovering stuff on their own. I will chalk it up to spoiling faggots being secondary shitters that don't know how great it is to experience and piece together on their own, so they don't give a shit about spoiling. That includes (You).
>>3666184>using spoilers is simply a matter of common decencyToo bad that anon has no common decency.
>>3666196Nta but like the other person said, almost everyone just looks shit up in a guide, and it's not even a "these days" thing, it's been a thing since GameFAQs started back in the mid-90s. I swear I'll get around to updating the wiki eventually so it's not so barren but I've been so busy and I need to rip the equipment icons to fill out the BS2 item list.Speaking of which, when do you think is the amount of time that should pass for a game in the realm of "you should know by now what happens in it" before discussing it? In tv it's around 3-7 says but a tv show just requires watching something. Personally I like the Super Robots Wars unofficial 3 years rule which was never actually a thing but fans like it act like it was. Basically Banpresto seemed to have usually waited around 3 years after a show came out before it was added to SRW, and people thought of it in terms of you had 3 years to watch this series, so don't bitch when you play a game that gives the cliffnotes version of it and you might have knowledge gaps.
>>3666201>almost everyone just looks shit up in a guideMost people are also lazy, stupid faggots. Why should we cater to them? If they really get stuck, they have hints.txt they can read.>Speaking of which, when do you think is the amount of time that should pass for a game in the realm of "you should know by now what happens in it" before discussing it?Spoilers are still spoilers regardless of the length of time. I think the BS fanbase handles discussing them well enough, if you're still playing the games and hover over spoiler tags not addressed to you, you're doing so at your own risk.
>>3666196>Sounds to me like everyone else doesn't want new players to have a good time discovering stuff on their own.But WE didn't discover it on our own. Both here and in Japan everyone pieced it together as a community on release with everyone posting "oh, I found this thing!", it was one of the biggest community efforts to figure everything out in a small indie game since Yume Nikki. Which really is something we've done since we were kids on the playground, sharing neat things we found when everyone got a game.What I'm saying is, if you weren't there at the start, it's too late for you
>>3666209>Spoilers are still spoilers regardless of the length of time.Yeah but after a point, some things just become common knowledge, like the MC's name being Grimm despite the fact that that's supposed to be a giant twist in one of 1's endings. Pic related.
>>3666216>like the MC's name being Grimm despite the fact that that's supposed to be a giant twist in one of 1's endingsTo be fair, it's virtually impossible to talk about BS without having a universally agreed upon name for the protagonist to discuss with. From what I remember there were attempts early on at trying to keep his name a secret, but people couldn't agree on a name and Ko/v/ shit was basically the final nail in the coffin.
>>3664697>see this single screenshot>"huh, kinda looks like Ghibli...>look it up>made by TMS who were some of the best animators in the industry at the time with a bunch of the staff going on to found Ghibli the next year>it was even directed by MiyazakiHuh, neat. Is it any good?
>>3666220its cinema
>>3666220It's alright, but it's very clearly made for kids.
>>3665888Holmes....
>>3664779I'm gonna be honest, I hate that explanation about Jack because to me, it goes against what the Mental Ward video said about his character. He hated whores because they gave birth to miserable unwanted children, which is why he valued Edith, because she was a pure girl untouched by the filth of that rotten town. It makes a lot more sense that there is no Holmes, there's only Jack, and Holmes is just an alias he uses because you just met him and have no reason to suspect him. I mean, does anyone else at all mention Detective Holmes? Them being split personalities undercuts him to me when the game already gave a perfect good reason for him having been locked up in the past, because he was a sick man in a sick world who only knew how to save it with violence
I played and fully went through the entire series over the past 2 weeks, and it was honestly one of my favorite pieces of worldbuilding/plot I've seen in a while. I absolutely loved the story, but honestly I was really turned off by how much lolicon stuff was in the game along with how forced the h scenes felt sometimes (especially in bs1, in bs2 I think you can avoid nearly every one). Shit like Gerda jumpscare igloo scene and Hansel and Gretel in bs1I get that I'm a tourist or whatever, and I understand that aspects of it are important to the plot Lewis Carroll, but it just took me out of the game at times and basically makes it impossible to recommend to others despite how good I feel it is.
>>3666237>I hate that explanation about Jack because to me, it goes against what the Mental Ward video said about his character.Not really, the two things aren't mutually exclusive. Leopold remembers spending time in the white prison, where he presumably got mindfucked into his current role of Jack/Holmes, and then some time after that Jekyll took advantage of his state and somehow made some kind of drug from him.>I mean, does anyone else at all mention Detective Holmes?Yeah, it's not like he's some unknown figure in Lutwidge. There's a poster discussing both Jack and Holmes at the bar, and Mary (rabbit whore) talks about Holmes off the top of my head. I wish he had a bigger role to play in the plot though, but I guess the shit that happens to people like him and the Carpenter aren't really the focus of BS2.
>>3664779>>3664838Actual short hair tomboy wifeWtf
>>3666242>but it just took me out of the game at times and basically makes it impossible to recommend to others despite how good I feel it is.Creative works aren't always going to inspire pleasant feelings or reactions, and they're not always intended to be consumed or enjoyed by the average person either. Black Souls is a work targeted towards a very specific audience, and there's no harm or shame in that.
>>3666242Let's meet again next year when you will be going uohhh cunny erotic sexo
>>3666247That's fair, I am totally not in the target audience though desu, I was unironically there for the plot. I can usually stomach a lot of stuff but some of the the h scenes were especially bad and explicitly pandering rather than enhancing the experience. I do appreciate though that as the series progressed and Toro continued writing it feels like the focus shifted away from a lot of that. I only say all this because I want to be able to fully get into the black souls discussion etc but it's hard when half of it is cunny uoooh shit. >>3666249Honestly by like mid bs2 I was totally done with h-scenes, my H run I think had 0 scenes at all. I just got grossed out by those kinds of scenes desu, I only really liked Prickett, Mabel and Dinah.
>>3666262I see you have culture in youBut don't worry soon you will come to learn to love Lorina as qoh too
>>3666262>Honestly by like mid bs2 I was totally done with h-scenes, my H run I think had 0 scenes at all.>I only say all this because I want to be able to fully get into the black souls discussion etc but it's hard when half of it is cunny uoooh shit. You're gonna have a bad time trying to talk about some things then.
>>3666264Lorina was way too young looking imo which is weird considering she's the same age as her sisters but she was a good character. >>3666271I'll be honest that was one of the few characters I actually checked all the options on It made me wonder if BS3 is going to be focused on the king in yellow. My pet theory is that it's going to be based on Dante's Inferno with Lorde having a ton of similarities with Stolas.
>>3666277I used to have a theory that of the endings 3 would be grimm taking the place of the idiot as a more superior version of the dreamer since he is a writter, i can see KIY trying to do the sane thing since he(she?) also wrote a book(play)
>>3666285one of*same*
>>3666285I would agree that'd be interesting, but I just don't know how you could get enough characters out of the remaining Lovecraft Mythos without reusing a majority of the characters.
>>3666288I mean we know that mary is out there, maymay could come back and we still have to keep the promise we made to prickett(tco), so we running into them either way
>>3666289For sure some can come back, but most of the important cast were major Lovecraft mythos characters, I think they'd need to introduce a new pantheon or whatever unless I am totally underestimating the Lovecraft pantheon size.
>>3666290There are a TON, but i can't see them being used as simple cg npcs, t bh i have no idea what he will even use for bs3 npcs since the ending of 2 didn't end in a cliffhanger like 1 did
>>3666296I mean he is destined to have tragedy around him, I wouldn't be surprised if something in one of the spinoffs has something happen. Also real locations have been sucked into a garden like the crimean hospital, so it wouldn't be that crazy for him to get caught up.
>>3664184who says the will be a third one? the ending in the last dlc of bs2 felt pretty definitive
>>3666322>who says the will be a third one?EMMM does. There's gonna be two more game at least before BS3 comes out though.
Okay so was tco basically a waifu before leaf took grimm?. She and Grimm look pretty happy together and without any weird lovecraftian thing going on in the movie.
>>3666336The events of the Tea Party take place before BS1, and TCO was playing the role of Alice during the Tea Party.
>>3666337Yeah but it doesn't seem like she was just playing the role from the way prickett reacts to it. Do you think the whole tco would have turned into prickett had it continue?
>>3666343>Do you think the whole tco would have turned into prickett had it continue?Yeah, the general consensus is that TCO as a whole would have ended up like Prickett if it kept going.
>>3666350Mary really ruined everything
>>3666211Don't I fucking know it. This thing has a single stage where a single enemy has a single pixel worth of clue on him in a dozen variations. Solving it as a group was practically required. It was indeed great being in threads where most people are figuring stuff out and asking for help.But still all of this is much different to just looking up a guide for the whole game, those are who I think don't give a shit about spoiling.
I still don't really get how elemental buffs work. I get it = more damage and that Royal Tea is a fucking amazing spell in 2, but I can never figure out how much damage because I can't see resistances (that I know of) so it's basically just rolling the dice on how effective it'll be. Also that the Ice buff is bugged or something which is why it can't be dispelled.
>>3666484>I get it = more damageThat's all it ultimately really is, don't overthink it.
>>3666410Nice curves.
>>3666410Baby mama
>>3666410If she breeds, she's a thot.
>>3666510You just insulted your own mother.
>>3666592>node immediately despises any non-related females around grimmhuh
>>3666285I still believe this is what the story is leading up to. You said "used to" so how do you think it will end now?
>>3666510ALL WOMEN ARE QUEENSBut especially Node
>>3663425I am currently developing a black souls killer. I won't give away too many of the details, but lets just say covenants won't be just soul dumps, and there will be day/night cycles. Imagine bs2 but with like twice the complexity.
>>3666903How many CGs are you aiming for?
>>3666907Heh. Lets just say enough for the game to have its very own /vrpg/ thread.
>>3666264Nothing will ever beat playing strip cards with Lorina! So cute and funny!
What can BS3 even do with the obligatory Lindamea fight that we KNOW will be in the game, that 1 and 2 didn't already do?Personally I'm hoping the Black Trial redeems itself as an organization in 3
>>3666958A random chance with any boss in the game that he shows up, oneshots the boss, and you fight him instead. And if you savescum so that you fight him in the place of every other main story boss fight in the game, he joins you against the final boss. Then he turns to you and is the new final boss with both of you having your undeath removed so whoever wins finally dies for real.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYAPgPH9hsI
>>3666958He'll literally be the tutorial boss and go out saying he'll be backHe won't be back until the DLC as the player character for a section where you go around reuniting all of the Black Trial, who will all join Grimm for the final boss of 3
>>3666965She's so cute...
>>3666884Based
>>3666958Lindamea will remove his helmet and turn out to be a girl.
>>3666510>>3666884Now I need an edit of this with Grimm and Jackhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdyXKJ8NcNI
>>3666112She has called herself a cunt after she cunts out, that makes her better than 99% of streamers
There was a post that I can't find in the archive with a link to download a creepy czech Alice in Wonderland movie, any kind anon remembers or has it?
>>3667037Sorry anon i do not remember
>>3667008Please don't be like undertale... FOTM memes with things I like is getting old...
>>3667044I think this was the post >893333 but the mega link is deadOh well
>>3667037>>3667050Here it is for anyone wondering https://archive.org/details/alice-1988-jan-svankmajer
>>3666958>joins you on your niggermen crusade>fights by your side the entire time, you become brothers-in-arms>as soon as you beat the last niggerman>"you don't think I forgot you, did you, sinner Grimm?"
>>3667094Reminder retarder janny banned me for saying that word
Why did tea party for three make me sad
>>3667215you have a functioning sense of empathy
>>3667215>lust provoking eyes
>>3667220I wish i was grimm>>3667223Rank them from least to most
>>3667230>I wish i was grimmIf the goal was to have a non-functioning sense of empathy, then the mission failed.
>>3667265Best ring in the game.
>>3667282>Best ring in the game.>50% bonus action chance
Can anybody redpill me on this game? I have seen a couple of threads on /v/ but I almost never browse that board so I'm clueless to this series. It this a rpgmaker game like undertale (another game I never played before)?
>>3667335>redpill me
>>3667335Yes it's an rpgmaker one, no idea about what it has or has not common with undertale as i have never played it.Went for a quick fap after seeing some screenshots on /v/ but stayed for the storybut many more fappenings came afterwards holy fuck lingeriena makes me D diamonds
>>3667342>and stuffGreat writing there.
Yes it is me, Grimm Blacksouls
>>3667358I'd probably hate this more if it didn't vaguely look similar to me. Still cringe
>>3667335It's a game that starts like a bog-standard RPGMaker turn-based RPG that likes Dark Souls a little too much, but by the end of the first game you realize the only thing it took from DS is the mechanic of your experience points also being your currency, some obvious items, and some aesthetics.Just play the first game, it takes like 8 hours to 100% it with all endings unless you're completely lost, it's not a long game. If after getting all of 1's endings you don't want to move on to 2, then 2 probably isn't for you.
>>3667366Is your name Adachi?
>>3667243Would both.
Does the anti-fairy work automatically? I can't use it.
>>3663425Anons how are your kids going to be? I hope mine get more than 4 eyes.
>>3667335>gameplayNonlinear JRPG. BS1 is too easy, BS2 is decently challenging.>storySeemingly your standard JRPG adventure but edgy. Expect wild plot twists.
Do anons mind if I post my youtube review of BS 1 ITT? I'd like to get some feedback from fellow anons
>>3667414In my opinion?Sure anon, why not
>>3667428Greatly appreciated, my man. Here it is: https://youtu.be/c8JJ5T2a5D4Enjoy!I am desperate for some feedback, since it's only 5k views, but hey, it's better than nothing
>>3667414Yes, and fuck off shill.
My sis name is alice so i never found her sexy, but mabel and prickett are literally sex in human form
>>3667414>>3667431I dislike both your thumbnail design and title. The title's content is very likely untrue as it states a subjective impression as fact. It's disingenuous framing. A (presumably) honest title would've been "The darkest Japanese RPG I've ever played". Your thumbnail is just extremely basic and sucks. 5k views seems like a lot to me since you're not a million sub youtuber. I'd never click your video if the Youtube algorithm showed it to me. Neither am I watching it now. Finally, stop shilling your channel and fuck off, faggot
>>3667344>basic characterization bad
SOONhttps://www.youtube.com/live/PacCuoVE32E
>>3667446>low tier food bad!
>>3667456zoom zoom 'lil buddy
>>3667486fr fr bro
>>3667456Which girl is closer to tenma?
3667504
>>3667504Lorina
...Guess we are doing Tenma thread now.
>>3667504Dodo, obviously.
>>36672654 rabbit whore rings...
I remember when I was first fish'd...
>Streamer do this!>Streamer there's a thing!Why can't these people just let them play the game?
>>3667431It's an okay review, but I'll say a few thingsFor one, too many jokes. You could cut 2/3rds of the jokes and there would still be too many left over. It kills the pacing of the video and makes me wanna skip forward. The whole intro segment is 7 minutes long for no reason because you ramble too much. Overall the video is way too long. Considering you're only talking about BS1, there is no reason the video should be 35 minutes long if you're not going into specifics on each character and plot pointsYour review is structured poorly. For most of the video, you are criticizing the game or making sarcastic remarks which make the game seems worse, but by the end you hail it as a must play game. The only actual praise in your video comes from the segment where you spoil people and if I'm someone who skipped that part to avoid spoilers, then I'm gonna be like "why should I play this game that you just said plays like shit?" Obviously, the gameplay in BS1 is pretty ass, but cutting back on the plentiful snide remarks about tropey stuff would helpThe Premise, Combat, Mechanics, and Inspiration segments are pretty good. Everything else is not so great. The review overall just isn't too good, which is unfortunate since the other ones I've watched of yours are typically good with the LobCorp video being pretty fantastic. You probably should have just made a video on both BS1 and 2. Also, please do not tell people that they could play the games without H-scenes. Maybe you could get away with that in BS1 where there's only like 3 scenes that are much worse without them, but BS2 NEEDS to be played with them for the best experience. It also keeps away the faggots who think that H-scenes are inherently bad
>>3667601Tenma is clearly retarded. She doesn't even read the dialogs, she skips through them.
>>3667601She barely reads chat unless she wants lore on one of the serial killer spirits anyway since she hates being backseated.
Tenma will marry me, or i will nuke this whole world.>t.Kim
>>3667608Stop slacking off and make LC2 already.
hehe funny, ammirite?
>>3667625
fixed spoilers>>3667431In your lore reveal section, you could have mentioned the way you are expected to "guess the suspect" at the end, instead opting to just say its Leaf immediately, i know most people that watch that section are expected to have played the game, but many, many people will just see the sudden reveal instead of being told how the game reveals it, its probably the biggest "gotcha" moments the game throws at you and for probably the most people, also the most memorable.You could have mentioned that the game uses royalty free music and what you thought about it, in the atmosphere section of your video, if it was jarring to you or if you liked it or if it was a mixed bag.You mentioned the game has some mechanic to punish you if you just rely on your companions only and dont level yourself (as you did) but didnt tie it in with the fact that the game expects you to eventually kill all your companionsIf you REALLY loved BS1 as much as you said you did, youre in for a treat for BS2 for sure.But do yourself a favor and keep the h-scenes ON during the entire game, its not at all a waste of time, even if it first would seem.
Just downloaded the game because of this thread. Of course I have VX Ace installed but the music is stuttering and google only gives me tons of other shit when I try to look it up. How do I fix it?
>>3667678where did you download it?
>>3667681I tried the sukebei and F95 version.
>>3667678How are you running it? Win10? 11? Give some info
>>3667684Win 11.
>>3667684>>3667681Nvm, I didn't change anything but now it works. Weird.
>>3667686Hold shift to runYou have four fingersIts not a cutsceneDont go to the subterranean world before getting ending cyada yada etc etc
Ok but, WHY is the final boss theme of 1 a christmas song?
>>3667699I don't know how Toro could possibly have known this but it's a Ukranian song and Ukranian Christmas tradition involves goats.
>>3667699The series is implied to take place at or around Christmas. Also probably because of the HP Lovecraft Society's Carol of the Old Ones.
>>3667703>Ukranian>Christmas>traditionLMAO
>>3667710????What do you think they celebrate, odin's day or rurik'?
>>3667713They celebrate the New Year. Christmas is not such a major holiday in eastern slavlands.
How to gain sen irl?
>>3667722Have sex
>>3667720I'm from ex soviet slav(kinda not really) land, we have almost 0 christian and we still celebrate it, but yeah both new years are way nore popular
>>3667722eat corpses
>>3667723But my lord that's impossible>>3667728Does self eating count?
>>3667736it only counts if you eat the whole thing
>I'm bored>it's been a while since I visited the Black Souls tvtropes page>I wonder if it got better>*go look at it*>YMMV>"Hey it's actually cool to see, it's not retar-">Unintentionally Unsympathetic: Lewis Carroll. He's supposed to be a tragic individual who lost the love of his life to time. The problem is that Alice loved him back, but told him to wait until she came of age. Years later they see each other again and he's disgusted because her childish youth is gone. While his villainy is entirely driven by his obsession with Alice's youth and his own loneliness, it's hard to feel much for him given his downright Ephebophile tendencies and creepy grooming of Lorina and Edith.Which one of you fuck up wrote that shit? I swear to fucking Allah, how do you mess up one thing that is so fucking simple?
>>3667699Easterners tend to associate bells in particular with holiness and lots of chirstmas songs have those. There were many korean MMORPGs and such shit with flat out instrumental royalty free christmas songs as BGM for "holy" places.
>>3667762I suppose it's somewhat accurate to the ACTUAL Charles Dodgson. SOMETHING happened that drove a wedge between him and the Liddell family.
>>3667762I only read that garbage site
>>3667766It's not what happend in the game.I expected to get butthurt, but man, imagine going this far into the game without reading comprehension.
So if The KIY is on game 3 will she be a hag or a cunny ir dare i say a willy?
>>3667762How is it wrong?
Oh God even the character page does it. Fuck you.>>3667773Just for that, I'm going to ignore you. Play the game.Unless in some strange universe, being old is actually just above 18, meme aside.
>they still didn't get that "Baphomet" isn't Baphomet
>>3667790leonard....
>>3666958Why 3? It's Red's game that's supposed to double as the Black Trial game.
>>3667783NtaIve only played 1 can i hear your opinion as to why?kymkw
>>3667797I wonder which kind of nastiness it's gonna have. There was a Poro system to prevent unpleasant CG scenes right? I bet it's gonna be disabled during a horrible moment in main plot after you're used to it.
>>3667797lol nice picture. Saved
>>3667800Node's already known to have saved Red at some point between BS1 and BS2, which is when DRH should take place.
>>3667799NTA tooBesides just the way it is written> but told him to wait until she came of age.That line is something they pulled out of their ass. That last part too but I guess they either got confused about the VN segment or they're talking about irl.
>>3667766No, it didn't happen to the actual Dodgson either. That paragraph is just straight up wrong.
>>3667762>EphebophileWhat? I can understand pulling out that term to differentiate from pedophilia, but objectively Carroll is a pedophile. Are they just reluctant to outright say it?
>>3667807>No, it didn't happen to the actual Dodgson either.We don't know what happened, there's nothing definitive that tells us why him and the Liddells drifted apart when they were seemingly so close before.
>>3667722rummage through corpses
>>3667773The whole game is based on real life shit, so read about the real life shit
>>3667872The most prevalent theories are:>he was in love with Alice (unrequited)>he was in love with Prickett (unrequited)>Lorina was in love with him (unrequited)Even if the Alice theory were correct, and even if the love were mutual, the grooming part would still be straight up wrong.
>>3667812cute
>>3667877No I didn't mean grooming, I mean he like inappropriately touched one of them and THAT'S what drove them apart.
>>3667862I love Maymay!
>>3667862I love Node!
>>3667906You dropped the ns
>>3665893
>>3665893>like in every community that has been around for yearsBe better.
>>3667862maymay gonna get that green top
>>3667862Can we see what Jabberwock would do in minecraft too?
>>3668081she puts in factory mods so she can create as many things as possible
>>3668202Hmm, Alice is whiter than I remember.
Does anyone know who Harry Liddell (Alice's older brother) might be in the game? I've been trying to figure it out but got nothing
>>3667875>>3667856>>3667875Yeah, you guys are the kind of people that should be ignored.>>3667795It's baffling how they didn't got this with all this time, but still has time t spout bullshits.>>3667799First off, play 2, you are doing yourself a disservice by not playing it. Just be sure you have the Power of READING, COMPREHENSION first unlike some retards. If you really wat spoilersIt's basic bitch ass logic, they drifted apart, Alice's dad didn't want Alice and Lewis to be married, (thought there's one 0 SEN evidence that it really was just the pressure of society getting to him) so Alice married a guy closer to "her station", Lewis stayed as a bachelor writer prof. Years, and I mean a LOT of years after, he got invited by Alice, and basically ran away with PTSD upon seeing her so old and that so much time passed. Alice wasn't much better.Or in basic retardfree language, they are both very OLD, and that, with the realization of what there is now, what could have been, what should have been, broke them.Like I said it's basic bitch ass logic, it's in the TEXT, and the fact that people didn't got it is mindblowing, and they pretty much pulled it that shit from their asses at best, like >>3667806 pointed out. At the very best, they don't know how to read or confused it with real life (that we don't know much about) or the VN. And the VN is a replica of Lewis' White Prison that was made specifically to catter AND break him. So they fail even more as thinking beings.God I'm mad. How can people play Black Souls and not understand the fucking text layed in front them.
>>3668202I'm going to Node.
>>3668397ns*
I can't wait for tenma to finish bs2 so i can finally kill myself
>>3668448Please don't>t.Tenma
>>3668459Unis in a bunny suit and a black eye doing a peace symbol and looking extremely pissed off !!
>>3668448Save that later for BS3
>>3668526>Save that later for BS3I'm so excited for 2040 bro's
>>3668381Are you saying that the main character of the game isn't a pedophile? You can't tell people that they don't understand the game if you deny basic realities like that
>>3668528Yeah... Good enough time that we probably live our lives to the fullest by then (and I can happily hang myself too)
>>3668349Why do people think cheshire cat is dinah when dinah is literally in the game and named dinah
>>3668670>Why do people think cheshire cat is dinahBecause the Cheshire Cat we spend 99% of the game interacting with is Alice's cat Dinah? Cheshire herself says this a few times throughout the game.
>>3668554What's she cooking?
>>36686702 pieces/sides of the same entity. Same thing happening with Henry Liddell/Dean, Leaf, TCO and Prickett, etc. Outer gods are just weird like that
>>3668554I love my niggerman rabbit wife.
>>3668803nodens...
>>3668081>House isn't even a house, it's a hole in the ground she covers up with dirt at the end of the day>Next to a big tree she has fond memories of>Surrounded by her failed attempts at making snowmen>Has a special bed for Grimm right next to hers
>>3668509My FUCKING hero!
>>3668692Man, she looks a bit depressed here, not like her usual.
>>3664908cute Dodders
There's so many little things in 1 that feel like they weren't super well thought-out. Like Rotten Burg and Elixir were seemingly somewhat normal towns with normal people living in them until relatively recently when they got fucked over, and no I don't think that's just memory alteration like how Jeanne remembers Orleans despite France not existing in this world. Or the whole Undead Purge thing, how did they accomplish that? The Undead are unkillable in-universe unless you take their immortality away, and we know that's not just Grimm being special because Lindamaea possesses the same trait because they're undead.And yes I know in-universe it was hastily thrown together without a lot of thought but that feels like a halfassed justification.
>>3668961I think those areas are "written" to be towns in chaos. A lot of the setting seems to exist to follow a storyline. I imagine the Undead Purge is similar to Dark Souls, i.e. you round up all of them and torture them in some remote location forever.
>>3668966Yeah obviously the Undead Purge is just a DS1 reference, but it also raises questions
>>3668961>There's so many little things in 1 that feel like they weren't super well thought-out.
>>3668235You came on her.
>>3668961>Like Rotten Burg and Elixir were seemingly somewhat normal towns with normal people living in them until relatively recently when they got fucked over, and no I don't think that's just memory alterationI think people gloss over the idea that the events of BS1 don't just magically start when we start the game. For example, Glinda's summoning of Shub-Niggurath takes place before the start of the game. While it's hard to suss out what was just purely Mary poorly making shit up (I.E. Dorothy having no idea what Toto looked like) or not, the basic idea that there was shit happening before BS1 officially starts shouldn't be in question at least. More than likely, Elixir and Rotten Burg were actually relatively normal towns before we started the game.>Or the whole Undead Purge thing, how did they accomplish that?You could rationalize it with something similar to what happened to the Ghouls in 2, but there's really no evidence one way or the other ingame that I can recall for what exactly happened.
So which ina did he bang?
>>3669165the black haired one allegedly?
>>3665781Having played BS2 blind, It took me about 8 loops to figure this one, and I explored through every nook and corner, the first loop everyone died because of Jubjub so I decided to go up and down through the whole map and lay it out, went through every single area I could get through until upon backtracking I saw the shitty bird flying by the bridge of dead soldiers then it clicked on me, I had NOT explored it all, which then I found the asylum and everything else just started to flow naturally.First loop I had already died to the Cat so I reset to try and beat it, this time I had a good idea of what to do and saved Alice.The following loops had a lot of experimenting, from messing with SEN to trying different character interactions to finding about Shisha and Dodo, even Jubjub and the chick, Vernai's mission, etcI suppose I took my sweet time but DLC3 was still a long way it took me a while till I started interacting with objects, in retrospective what Wonderland teaches you in the first game is exactly all you will apply in the second
>>3667766Having read his biography, he was still good friends with the Liddell and was invited to be Alice's photographer for her wedding ceremony, so I wouldn't say so.
>>3665174>male protag in a game with cast mostly filled with girls >but you actually play as the said protag, you fight as him, navigate, etc.>and isn't sidelined in the story, has a noticeable major part in it as wellBS did it right
So are my daughters eldritch abominations or no? In Winterbell they always look human no matter the SEN level
>>3669251>So are my daughters eldritch abominations or no?Yes. Did you not get B?
Is there any class that is particularly good? Also can you switch out your appearance like in BS1?
>>3669338the good hunter just fucking works out of the gatealso yes, but not until a lot later
>>3669340Ok I'll try out that class, one other thig, does this impact anything?
>>3669338Just pick the one with the coolest appearance, the difference between them blurs in like an hour of gameplay.>>3669342Let your dick guide you.
>>3669346Alright, time to see how this game changes compared to BS1
>>3669351Based motherfucker
wip, I'd like to try something
Whats the best place to level up in the very early game of bs2?
>>3669351Based
>>3669338I always go with Knight just because it's the more "canon" Grimm, but at low level when you have shit all to work with, I would say Hunter is easily the best of them.
>>3669367I'm assuming you mean BESIDES the Chaos Dungeon which is by far the best place but will also utterly obliterate the game's pacing because you bypassed the natural flow of how strong you should be for a given area.
>>3669391I'm at the very start of the game and never have played the game before
>>3669393Well the Chaos Dungeon is an optional grinding dungeon you access from the prison area in your home base. It basically exists so that you're strong enough stat-wise for DLC3 because you get real strong real fast in there.
>>3669394I see, this girl is cute
>>3669397Mabel is cute.But ignore the chaos dungeon for now, you'll get strong too fast then wonder "why are these bosses so easy" because the base game was NOT designed around you being high-level.
>>3669398I figured, I found a decent spot for souls so I'll just put off the dungeon for now
>>3669397Iām sure I canāt be Mabel, for I know all sorts of things, and she, oh! she knows such a very little! Besides, sheās she, and Iām I, andāoh dear, how puzzling it all is! Iāll try if I know all the things I used to know. Let me see: four times five is twelve, and four times six is thirteen, and four times seven isāoh dear! I shall never get to twenty at that rate! However, the Multiplication Table doesnāt signify: letās try Geography. London is the capital of Paris, and Paris is the capital of Rome, and Romeāno, thatās all wrong, Iām certain! I must have been changed for Mabel! Iāll try and say āHow doth the littleāāā and she crossed her hands on her lap as if she were saying lessons, and began to repeat it, but her voice sounded hoarse and strange, and the words did not come the same as they used to do:āāHow doth the little crocodileImprove his shining tail,And pour the waters of the NileOn every golden scale!āHow cheerfully he seems to grin,How neatly spread his claws,And welcome little fishes inWith gently smiling jaws!āāIām sure those are not the right words,ā said poor Alice, and her eyes filled with tears again as she went on, āI must be Mabel after all, and I shall have to go and live in that poky little house, and have next to no toys to play with, and oh! ever so many lessons to learn!
>>3669406Cute!
>>3669406Remember, no matter what happens, no matter how scary or fucked up or duplicitious the world seems, you can always trust Node.Yes always, don't greentext me you fucks
>>3669397Mabel is best girl or at very least top 3
>>3669411>but she's a chronic liar
>>3669411Holy based
Should I save these or is it fine to use them?
>>3669359Hmm very nice Prickett art, planning to do something with lighting effects?
>>3669429She's doing it for your sake, trust maintained.
>>3669458There's somewhere you can turn them in for items.
Two more weeks
>>3669505Victoria, why did you dye your hair white?
>>3669464I hate lies... Even if it's was a 'white' lie
>>3669525Really? You hate your parents telling you the lie about Santa Claus so that it both encourages behaving but also because it gives them that childlike joy?
>>3669558>Santa>a lieYou're talking crazy anon. Santa is real, why else would NORAD track him every year? WHERE DO THE PRESENTS COME FROM THEN?!
What the fuck is this cat talking about
>>3669567Someone you're about to meet and is hard to forget.
>>3669167It makes Lorina canonically the best girl in the series
DRH needs to hurry up already>all this speculation about real-world sources or superimpositions of characters>so little about current and future of the settingUggug/beast of distraction is a direct reference to Sylvie and Bruno, so where are the other characters? Mein Herr and the Warden are the most enigmatic and it feels strange if they aren't represented. The Warden could be the King in Yellow if anyone, but I think there's a good case with Mary Sue too. There's the Slave Emperor/Slave Empress who are clearly Sibimet and Tabikat set right before her encounter, and in the story the Warden "plays along" with their games of intrigue. She fits that role, due to her seemingly vindictive and merciless placement past them, and "powerlessness" if you decide to fuck her/fuck her up. Add to this that the Warden is the king of Fae and no one has bothered to strip Mary Sue of her fairy identity...if it turns out that she has yet been playing all others for a fool all along, you can probably fill out a roster of the people taking a roll from the story. Grimm actually being a Bruno/Historian expy would explain so much about his enretardation.Node is literally and metaphorically an Outlander and her watch theme has a dual purpose of pretending to be the "white rabbit" while actually featuring the literal power set of the Outlandish Watch. Pretending to be the white rabbit because while her role in the play has zero features in common with the rabbit's own, it has many in common with the Professor. The Professor, after all, awaits you in the library. Superimposing features of the white rabbit with her natural features and the role of the Professor makes a tasteful sleight-of-hand playing on player expectations to insert a character who "should not be there" while filling the narrative gaps left behind by the accursed Black Rabbit(s). This also works with the previous interpretation as the Professor does not directly suffer the crushing of the Emperor/Empress but instead
Do you need to do a lot of grinding in black souls 2?
>>3669667No, The entire game is beatable at lvl 1 and no colored soul stats boost.
>>3669505>>3669689rabid sex with the rabbit wife
>>3669677Yes, if you have hyper-autistically mastered every aspect of the game to speedrunner levels. Just because the game is balanced such that you CAN do that, doesn't mean you SHOULD.
I still think battle music in this game peaked with the generic boss theme in 1 against fairy tale opponents. No, I don't think the remix in 2 for the serial killers is as good.
>>3669990It's a good songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN-d9UNTz7Y
>>3669982That's SL1 difficulty 9. SL1 is quite easily doable for anyone who knows basic game mechanics.
>>3670006Son or daughter?
>>3670008Son probably
>>3670030>Grimm's daughters are sexpots>Grimm's sons are haunting shell of a person
>>3669982SL1 is basically just>basic knowledge of early game item locations and how combat works>Rings of the Black Goat
>>3669460Yep, I wanted to try my lighting practice into motion.Also PC got knocked out, currently in repairs. Hereās a different wip that I have done on traditional while I wait for Prickett.
>>3670097Cute Miranda.
>>3670008Both.
Grimm is canonically a manlet
>>3670191I don't believe Dodo is that tall.
>>3670194>
I kinda feel bad for this bear, having to listen to me plow Node every day
>>3670298
Is it fine to use these or should I save them?
>>3670194Dodo's 6 feet tall I believe.
>>3670194she's a big bird
>>3670315you'll get to max level either way but the """""EFFECIENT""""" way to do it is sell them at low levels and use them at high levels
>>3670325what is considered "high level" in this BS2?
>>3670326as soon as you get less levels by selling it instead of using it
>>3670194Dodo has lots of meat.Delicious, delicious meat.
>>3670085>>3669982Which no one would know how to do on the first playthrough and thus is pointless advice to give to someone asking where is a good place to grind.
>>3670191Where are these numbers from?
>>3663425>japanese chrischan tier art talent>still manages to craft great eroge scenesHow does toro do it bros
What are the Chaos Dungeon only spell books?
>>3670339He's a book autist. I don't have the chart but someone found out some of the most obscure shit in the game was from a bunch of Sherlock Holmes books that you would need to have read to understand the references in the game. That's not even bringing up weird stuff like the theories about alice liddell/prince leopold
>>3670331>do you NEED to grind a lot in BS2 >no, you can even do it at SL1 stats>woooooow pointless informationAll that really matters for a normal playthrough is understanding how gearing and buffing works. If you need to grind in BS2, it's completely a skill issue on your part and not understanding how to use what you have. Those anons posts weren't trying to shill an SL1 run as that anon's first run, I don't know why you even decided to bitch about that.
>>3670361>If you need to grind in BS2, it's completely a skill issue on your part and not understanding how to use what you have.Or maybe I don't feel like putting in the effort, same reason I don't put the difficulty past 0.
>>3670375skill issue confirmed
with a few spoilers as possible, can anyone tell me how SEN related to Insight? is zero zero, and high sen....high insight? but then, whats negative?I understood insight from playing the everloving 100% platinum trophy without cloud save scumming out of bloodborne, but I still don't understand SEN even after watching streams.in bloodborne, zero = reality...and is where you should be before finally choosing the REAL ending which is accepting ghermans offeris it mania and uh the other one? like oblivion shivering isles? that would make the most sense to me
>>3670483SEN =/= BB insightdon't overthink it
>>3670483The short version, it isn't 1-to-1 with Insight and there's a few things going on with it in BS2 that make it hard to explain without some spoilers, including a very endgame one.
>>3670484i'm trying not to, and I think I get it to some extent, but again, bloodborne doesn't have negative.
I need this shit to go mainstream so I can get traductions for the mods>but..We are never gonna get Black Souls 3. Who cares?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjXq3r14Hyo
>>3670377No I just get no actual joy from completing challenges from videogames and instead like grinding my opponents into paste. More importantly I have an addiction to big numbers and higher stats give me the biggest numbers possible.
>>3670525same, but so I can see black souls in the actual dark souls/ring engine. that would be cash
>>3670375>>3670526How is how you personally play games relevant at all to the original question that was asked? Unless you're the same anon that asked if you need to grind a lot, your own personal opinions on making number go up or what you think about SL1 runs are completely irrelevant. Factually, you do not need to grind in BS2, it's an open and shut question. If you really want fat stats, spend 30 seconds gearing up before the fight and another 30 menuing at the start of the fight and steamroll everything that way, you'll save yourself hours of mindless grinding.
Bros i might never post again...My country is going down the abyss
>>3670592>My country is going down the abyssUkraine?
>>3670592Quick, post your waifu top 3 and that way we shall keep your memory alive for the generations to come.
>>3670610MabelPrickettNode
>>3670610DodoMabelLeaf
>>3670610JabberwockMother AliceBlackwell
>>3670610NodensWhite Rabbit NodeWhite Queen
>>3670592are you Korean?
realize I never heard the match girl fairytale before, going to listen to an audiobook of it on my walk laterdoes anyone have the infographic of the required reading for this series? I'm not sure if I saved it or not.
>>3670638Is she streaming BS 2 again?
>>3670623Yeah, and holy shit i'm hearing gun shotsI might be going to alice faster than i thought
>>3670639no its her birthday. i'd have had a notification if it was bs2 strim.sorry gatekeepers who don't enjoy virtual tubers.
>>3670643wow that was fast, I don't even know why they declared martial law yet.I cast hidden body on this anon. (stay safe out there pal)
>>3670648Thank you, i hope it calms downEither way no going out, its time like this you could lose your life over nothing
>>3670633
>>3670648False alarm, complete wet fart
>>3670680Its missing changeling: the lost
>>3670194EMMM said she's 2 meters tall, IIRC.Jabber is also pretty short.
>>3670610>Having more than one waifu
Figured this'd be the best place to ask - has anyone here managed to find a copy of Sylvie and Bruno that isn't Createspace Independent Publishing Platform garbage?
>>3670740W-where are his legs
>>3670735I chalk it up to being EMMM's poor anatomy and scaling skills in drawing, but that may be cope since I think I would lose a good deal of respect for the character if he's a manlet
>>3670758Grimm is ~1.75 m if we compare him to Dodo, which is about average male height.
>>3670760It's unfortunate, but average isn't good enough. I'm not gonna buy it until we get actual confirmed heights though. My headcanon is that he scales to the height of the actual authors themselves. Lewis Carroll was 5'11, Anderson was 6'1, and I can't find the brothers Grimm heights, but considering they were Germanic, they are most likely in that range. 180 cm minimum or bust
>>3670765Both of them were raised in fairly severe poverty from what I can find, which is known to stunt growth if it's bad enough. Also>Jacob, a scholarly type, was small and slender with sharply cut features, while Wilhelm was taller, had a softer face, and was sociable and fond of all the arts.is the best I can find on their sizes at the moment.
>>3670811So they were San Andreas side mission duo.
>>3670694How can anyone ever doubt the teachings of Chuddha?
What enemy packs did EMMM used for Black Souls 2?
>>3671022I think most of them come from some guy named Mazeran Pickman or something like that.
>>3670765>Anderson was 6'1That's funny, I always pictured him as an insecure manlet.
>>3671023>>3671022Yeah that artist does some very neat shin megami style designs for the touhou girls
>>3670680>play: drakenguard/nierplease tell me that parts a joke lolthanksI finally heard the tale of match girl (real) of course she freezes to death I don't know what I was expecting.
>>3671066>please tell me that parts a joke lolDrakenier was an obvious inspiration for the game. Just look at the alphabetical endings and the style of those short stories from fairy tale books and the chaos dungeon bosses. Besides, EMMM himself mentioned it during an interview, alongside Bravely Default, Soul Sacrifice and Yomawari (and Fromsoft of course)
Is EMMM one guy or a team?
>>3671123One guy
>>3671123One man.
>>3671023https://darksect.booth.pm/Damn, I really like this guy's stuff. I'm tempted to buy some of them.
>>3670755Duchess ate them
>>3670755Charles Dodgson was crippled during the first world war, how could you not know about this?
>>3671066My senses detected someone talking shit about Drakengard and I appeared. You know you can get ending E in like twenty hours? By modern standards the Dragoon does not Drag On at all. You don't need to level up any weapons, you can ride the dragon whenever you want, you don't have to replay the game to get the other endings, it's actually just new content after the credits and it's really cool. Drakengard is a game that youtube essayist force themselves to play just to make a video and come back saying they didn't like it, but anyone who actually plays it for the game it is has a lot of fun.Nier might be the best written game, and the presentation is amazing. It's actually a lot better than automata but I'd suggest the old Gestalt version rather than the remake.The english version of both is god tier.
What are you suppose to do about the purple charge ups? Just defend?
>>3671251Pretty much, or evade.Maybe try magic reflect if you have it, see if it works.
>>3671123Good games are only made by one person
>>3671173This, the faggots bitching about Drakengard 1 are severy overexaggerating the grind to E. It only takes like 3 hours to collect the weapons, even less if you simply use a guide to know what or where the bonus objectives are on your first run so you can get some of them early.
>>3671066>>3671077>>3671173>>3671279What a coincidence. Look what just dropped.https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/announce/=/product_id/RJ01105630.html
>>3671355The trailer looks pretty coolWhere is Quixote Souls you Spanish hack
>>3671355>female protagonist>submissive manI'm good, thanks
>>3671363And? What of it?
>>3671365Tell me about Zero. Why does she wear the flower?
>>3671355Nice hips
>>3671373Nice ears
>>3663425Hot take: the sen mechanic was not implemented well and isn't fun. If I were toro I would have made it have less of an impact and instead of creating essentially two games for no reason, I would have put more effort into covenants and the characters already in the game. More stuff like strip poker or the prickett date
>>3671365I don't wanna play as a female. I don't wanna be raped. I wanna play as a cool dude who has sex with lots of sexy ladies
>>3671400I disagree, SEN is what brought me to it in the first place. The whole idea of having a "sanity meter" that has real effects on the overworld was something I wanted to experience.
>>3671410>I don't wanna be raped.>implyingYou'll still be the rapist.
>>3671349>Drakengard 1 are severy overexaggerating the grind to E>It only takes like 3 hours to collect the weaponsAnd during this time you have to suffer through absolutely horrendous combatIt felt genuinely painful to play through the game, actually getting a bit angry when i went through each time, noting that basically nothing about the game had changed, with the only reward being at the end, a fucking minute worth of cutscene and ANOTHER cliffhanger and "haha, play through the same shit again to see the real, REAL ending!!"People put up this insane cope just to pretend the game was perfect and better than the subsequent more popular onesThe playthroughs absolutely fucking tarnish what a great final boss and build up the whole thing was.
>>3671400Why not do both? They arent mutually exclusive features. Sen adds to the mystery of the story.
>>3671419>with the only reward being at the end, a fucking minute worth of cutscene and ANOTHER cliffhangerYou also get a bonus level where you fight ace combat planes and you can ride a jet yourself.
I want to kick Bill in the groin.
What names rhymes with Alice for a guy?
>>3671482EllisAlso does anymore have more clear images of Lindmea? I wanna do some work with him but Toro went crazy on the sketchiness
>>3671400>Hot takeWhy is this always code for an awful opinion?
>>3671499
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>>3671579>>3671580>>3671581Haha wouldn't it be funny if one of the souls were a female writer and we could fuck him, wouldn't it hahaha?
>>3671588>if one of the souls were a female writerYour faggotry aside, who would even make good a great addition to the Grimmteon? Outside of maybe Emily Bronte.I should really read more female writers, the only ones I've ever read are Emily, George Eliot and Clarice Lispector.
>>3671567You're right, having to go repeatedly kill/rape node or open menu to use gear over and over is great design. Just like iron boots toggle spam in the water temple!
>>3671609Just do a cycle at high SEN and one at low SEN if it really bothers you that much.
>>3671609Go play a dating sim, it sounds more your speed. Changing your SEN from the menu takes less than five seconds. Even fucking the rabbit whore doesn't take that long as long as you're smart enough to skip the dialogue, and it takes almost no time at all if you temporarily disable the H-scenes.
How long does it take to finish a cycle for the first time? How many to get all the ending?
>>3671482Darius kinda
>>3671645>How long does it take to finish a cycle for the first time?It'll probably take you about 5-8 hours for your first cycle in BS1, full game completion is ~10+ hours. For BS2 it depends on how much you explore after a certain event, I'd probably place it at 5-10 hours, and full game completion will probably take you around 30-40 hours.
>>3671588If you aren't rare femanon kys>>3671592Don't forget mary shelley
>>3671422Fucking spoiler tags my dude.>>3671419I just checked a speedrun and it took him 2 hours despite not doing anything special.On the off chance you actually played it I think you got confused about the chapter select -when you reach content you've played before you can just quit and select the next hidden chapter you unlocked, if you actually replayed the game you're dumb.>People put up this insane cope just to pretend the game was perfect and better than the subsequent more popular onesAre you a fucking bot? I like Taro's other games but everyone knows Drak1 was the big one. No one would use the word "perfect" to describe anything Taro makes. That's not the point. I get a real strong feeling this is the compulsive regurgitation of some streamer you watched.Anyone following this, please just play the game instead of getting spoiled. Square actually put a lot of money into Drak1 for its era, it's a pretty cool experience.
>>3671173I wasn't talking shit about it I said please be a joke because I don't want to play 5 freaking games in prep for lore for an rpg maker game, I was hoping it would just be read obscure fairytales I haven't heard before. I already watched longplays for drakengard since its a ballache to emulate on a phone (controls don't work great on touchscreen, require "pad") as for neir replicant and automata, i'm playing elden ring I don't have time yet.
>>3671367She's a big girl
>>3671685Drakengard serves as an inspiration for Black Souls, but it doesn't affect the lore in any way.If you want something obscure that affects the game's lore in a big way, then you should read:>Sylvie and Bruno>Phantasmagoria>Throne of Bones
Sorry if this is a noob question. I was told to be smart about the Hansel and Gretal, so when I saw I picked up a bread crumb I reloaded figuring that might be bad. They can't find their way back, right?But I don't think it did anything. Am I safe to pick them up?But leaving the house I found this guy. His name is Sinner, is he bad? I haven't killed anyone with the "kill" option yet. Should I kill him or is he a good guy?Thanks
>>3671737He seems to want me to go buy medicine...?
>>3671365
>>3671748This
>>3671738Just go get his medicine and you will be rewarded with hot shota and/or loli cg's afterwards.
>>3671768Perfect, thanks. As long as that doesn't get them killed or something.
>Blind playthrough>Go back to Shisha for my hourly kiss>She is dying>That whore bird is slowly killing all my covenants>Rush to the oxford university after looking it up>Already finished the mental ward but don't have the ring/keyI beat the boss but I don't have it. Is it somewhere else?
>>3671816>ShishaewwwI ignored that freakapiller from the moment I met her>ugly bug>drug addict>not a loli>not moewhat the fuck, the only worse girls are the furbait ones cuz I ain't into fucking animals
>>3671816>Already finished the mental ward but don't have the ring/keyIf the boss didn't drop the ring itself it surely left its soul. Bring it to the Jack-in-the-box.
>>3671877>>3671816Nvm, it gives you a different ring. So you must have it somewhere in your equipment or you're misremembering beating it or it wasn't a boss.
>>3671880I didn't see it when I checked infront of the gate but it appeared when I checked storage. Might have missclicked some time earlier. My bad.>>3671831I have a weakness for green girls.
>>3671609>RapeJust make her covenant 3 and fuck her with the h-scene turn off. Takes under ten seconds to reach 100. And stop changing sen every room just pick one with meds and photos on standby.
>>3671581I had seen the others but this one is so hopeful! Thank you!
>>3671909anon you retard you know what that does right
>>3671932There's no need for rape when you can have lovey dovey sex.
>Lose the covenants>Lose interest in the gameWell, this sucks.
How do I deal with the Old King's Gravity spell?
>>3672031I don't remember if it was possible to tank it, your best bet is to get him to phase 2 before he can cast it. Stack bleed, burn and poisons if you don't have the raw dmg. If you can't just skip the fight, continue on and try to find the chaos dungeon only spells, especially chaos blast.
>>3672031Einfield Gravity? I think you need to dodge it, to avoid the instant kill that comes after or something like that.
>>3663475Thanks for the recommend list!
>>3672032Found the solution. The Deep Sea Knight's shield really do prevent all debuffs.
>>3666237Funnily enough, that's actually how the original jekyl/hyde is supposed to work. There never was a hyde, just a chemical that let jekyl disguise himself as someone else so he could do whatever he wanted with no consequences.
>>3666237Both Jack and Holmes are roles Leopold, really the only real personality split he can have is between them and himself and yeah Holmes seems more like just a facade>I mean, does anyone else at all mention Detective Holmes?I think someone at the bar, or maybe it was some announcement plastered on a wall>>3672046Did we read the same book? From what I remember Jekyl's reasons for creating that potion weren't exactly pure but once his good and evil parts were separated for good, the distinction between Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde became pretty, well... distinct.
>>3663475This kek
>>3672027Surprisingly people actually got filtered by this. Like bro, who cares they're not Alice.
>>3672065The original short story is indead how anon says it, there wasn't a good or evil sides just a respected doctor been giving the power of anonymity for the first time in his life, with the end being him being unable to recreate the portion due to an element having randomly been addited without his knowloadge and being stuck as hyde, or so we think since the whole short is from the view of the detective trying to solve the crime
I wish ******** was real...
>>3672475Could you repeat? I didn't hear you.
>>3672484I wish ******** was real so i could hug, kiss and make love to her
>Thought about buying Mazeran Pickman's works>60 gigsHow big could RPG maker sprites be?
>>3663425New player.>rape whore>feel nothing>reload and pay for her service>don't have 10k>go on my adventure and save up>return and find her transformed into a blood vampire popping out demon fetises>kill her while piano music plays>reload, rape her so she teleports to my dungeon>no option to release; sex is lame>abort new save and return to my progressI stopped caring because she rejected my offer to join me in the Holy Forest because she didn't want to abandon her story/ town of origin despite it going down in flames.
>>3672604Yeah, it's a stupid move on her part but you can't really help her.
>>3672604Raping her is pretty much the best you can do for her, it saves her life.
>>3672604Leaving her in the dungeon was the best you could for her
Anyone able to archive the custom black souls custom cursors?
>>3664184Do you think the next game will take another great reference for the next garden or will be original?
>>3672752Your Eden bro?
>>3672752Niggermen are canonically talentless hacks, they're incapable of creating anything original
>>3670097>>3670098Thanks, hereās the finished one I cleared on 3AM yeah, Iām getting used to doing digital and going traditional is a nice feel after like 2 years of me not touching a pencil
>>3672773Well done anon you made it look good even when colored.I always ruin it by coloring it
It's been too long without a new game or even an update.
>>3672817Canine dicks are hard to draw, please understand.
Great News.The Alice Site has reached 10k Visitors! https://beyondtherabbithole.neocities.org/That's 10.000 individuals who visited this site and read my schizophrenic ramblings and antisemitic slanders... I don't know if i should feel ashamed or not.I need something for the Christmas Thread. I've already done the Koistream for halloween, and would rather not do another stream considering the Jannies hated it. it needs to be something i can realistically put together within a two week time span, and Vaguely on topic enough for them to turn a blind eye. Got any Ideas?
SNIFF
Why cant I fuck it
>>3673021>WhyIt's a spoiler.
>>3673021owl would get mad
Should I follow this advice?
>>3673044Yes
>>3673044>>3673045So I just got one tapped by the fucking cat and got ending C, should I just reload and get better or go onto a new cycle? First playthrough of the game
>>3673048just keep going, surely that cat can't keep one tapping you forever. you'll make it.Alice believes in you, anon.
>>3673048You can start a new cycle or you can go explore the world before that. Your choice.
>>3673048Don't worry about it too much, cycling takes a lot less time than your first run did.
>>3673048Accept your losses, Alice is dead and there's nothing you can do now.Take your time exploring Wonderland, and when the time is right, turn back the clock.
>>3672955Making christmas decorations for the Alice tree
>>3673053I Suppose that can work. Decorating an Alice tree with Alices. and Alices atop the Alices within the Aliced Alice tree. and some Alices atop the Alices atop the Alices within the Aliced Alice tree. and some more Alice after that.If there isn't any other suggestions, I suppose it shall do.Though a shambling husk of its former self, I'm surprised this place has yet to perish.When did i Write so fancy? I should probably write some fairytales using my dreams as a basis.
>>3673129Meant 4 >>3673121I till need better means of dreaming
We will see her again?
>>3673157WHOOOoooooo...!
>>3673158Her
>bs1: summonable party members>bs2: no party members>bs3: ???
>>3673181No game
>>3673181party membersBS3's gonna be a 4 niggas in a row game, no summoning required.
>>3673181regiments of daughters, at least 40 plus perTotal War : Black Souls soon.
>>3673157I hope we can meet prickett once more in bs3
>>3673219Ok but who in the party? Grimm, red hood, miranda, leaf?
Are there even any news on BS3? Like did they say they were making it?
>>3673291>Like did they say they were making it?Yeah, after DRH and the Princesses games.
EMMM hereAsk me anything
>>3673311cocaŠ»?
>>3673311if red hood inawood and bs1 was dark souls, 2 is bloodborne will 3 be elden sekiro?
>>3672773Nice work anon.
>BEGONE, THOOT!!Why carnacki is such reliable bro?
CHRISTMAS!
>>3673520Soul
Black Souls 1 = Dark SoulsBlack Souls 2 = BloodborneIf EMMM is based Black Souls 3 would be Armored Core
>>3673621How would the mech's dick fit?
>>3673626Grimm would just have sex in the mech's cockpit.
>>3673621Mecha Helkaiser
I wish programming didn't make me ill, it be cool to mod the games to let you play as a monster or boss and see if you can still complete the game with only their skills
>>3673717I would like to see thatWhat tutorials did you watch btw?
I'm not gay but...
>>36738900I bought this book for C++ exercises for fun and my brain hated itmaybe its just C I hate, dunno
Mabel please give me Chaos Blast.
Anyone have any suggestions for dealing with Lorde in front of Grand Guignol on an SL1? Can't seem to survive his attack without relying on RNG. I'm sure there's an ideal way, right?
>>3674199If you can't land counter stun because of your Luck, your best bet is probably just trying to make yourself as tanky as possible and relying on the auto revives.
>>3674203What's the best gear for counter stun without making my stats too low? And thank you for the suggestion.
>>3674207Anchor+Counter Ring is your best bet, more than likely.
>>3674209Is that what it's called? Where do I find it?
>>3674210>Is that what it's called?Yes. It gives +100% Counter rate.>Where do I find it?I can't tell you where, but it's lumped in with the DLC 3 additions so it's probably somewhere related to that shit. One of my save files has 4 of them, so maybe you can find them in the Chaos Dungeon though I don't know for sure.
>>3674213How high does my luck have to be?
>>3674216I can't give the exact numbers but I first beat DLC 3 at Difficulty 0 with about 5k base stats on a normal run. 3 RotBGs get you 2,164 base, and a 4th puts you up at 4,174 but you'll miss out on the 100% counter. There are other ways of getting your Counter rate up if you absolutely need to, the Porcupine Shield has a 30% Counter rate and Bander's covenant has a 30% Counter rate and a 1.5x Attack mod. Running either/both of these means missing out on the respective bonus actions (Two-Faced Buckler/Duchess's covenant) that each slot can give however. You could also run Victoria's covenant and double your Luck but I'd save trying to use her for a last resort.
>>3674222I only have so many Girl's Scents left. Are all options so RNG heavy? Is there any loot to justify the effort?
>>3674226No loot if you fight him there, and if you really didn't want to fight him you can just run past him. I wouldn't say the options are super RNG heavy, but you're going to be stuck flipping a few coins more than likely. Once you deal with his initial barrage you should be able to nuke him down, just make sure you don't let him fire it off a second time at low health.
>>3674228Ok. You said "No loot if you fight him there." Does that mean he drops loot somewhere else? I think I recall hearing that fighting him at the first area prevents him from showing up elsewhere. Is that where I need to fight him to get something, or somewhere else?
>>3674232If you fight him at the jail, he drops his hood as a prize. The fight's basically the same as the one in front of GG, though you do get different dialogue for both fights.
>>3674233Is it good, and is either the dialog important? I know the gist of the story, and Lorde's role in it, but I still want to understand more if there's anything to learn.
>>3674235>Is it goodYes, but it's not better than the Mystery. At the start of combat it gives you a 1 turn buff that doubles your Attack/Magic, and gives +100% Crit/Accuracy.>and is either the dialog important?Important enough to see both I'd say, though you're probably not going to get any immediate plot revelations from them.
>>3674236Ok, that sounds like something I could focus on at a later date, then. If need be, I have a save from one of my earlier runs that can probably sweep him for the dialog, so that should be fine. Thank you very much for the help, though. Btw, is the early fight really the same as the last, and does it prevent him from spawning elsewhere afterwards? If so, I should have more opportunity to beat him next loop.
>>3674239>Btw, is the early fight really the same as the lastI think there's a few minor differences but for all intents and purposes it's basically the same fight. Yes, beating him at the jail prevents him from invading just before GG, or at his other invasion points in the DLC.
>>3674240Is it harder? I want the satisfaction of knowing I beat him at his full strength, ideally.
>>3674241>Is it harder?>for all intents and purposes it's basically the same fight.
>>3674242Ok, I get it. Ty.
>>3674148C and modern C++ are pretty much nothing alike.Also, they're both (relatively) low level languages where you have to deal with memory management and types. Try something like Python instead.
>>3674249Would you say C# is better? I've only done C++.
>>3674251 (Me)Also, NTA.
Lorde is so cool.
Is it a mask or his head?
>>3674148Study C instead.
Ain't no party like a wonderland party.>>3674392This but HolyC.
FINALLY AFTER 500 ROOMS
