does anyone else still play this or is it just me?
Just you
>>1866472lol he plays ck2 what a freak!!!
Every so often I'll set up a shattered world and play as a random count. Usually by the time I get a Kingdom or two I get bored and move on.
>>1866472I boot it up every now and then when getting the urge to reform religionIt's quickly fucking boring because it's always the same thing though
>>1866538what's a comfy place to play in a shattered world?>>1866548really? which start date? in 769 it's always a free for all for me
>>1866511What mod is that? Would like to check out something set in the early medieval period.
>>1866614The Winter King. Very neat, although a bit railroady Get the github version.
>>1866472I play once in a while, but as others say, it gets boring. I have 3k hours however, so my opinion is different from beginners. I do enjoy total conversion mods on occasion, but then I just get tired of the bugs and or shallow mechanics in the mod.
>discover that the earth revolves around the sun>get excommunicated
>>1866641really? it has so many choicesmaybe it's because i always play tall
>>1866472Used to play it quite a lot some years ago. Now not so much, still, it's the only pdox gsg that I liked.
>>1866600same thing as in it doesn't have any interesting events beyond a few playthroughsonly that many times i can do legendary warrior ten times each time lol
>>1866472>set up a ~3 kingdom imperial core to develop>do great wars for neigboring kingdoms>grant all lands to people of my culture and religion>release them>marry in>help quell rebelions and see them convertWhy is this so comfy?
>>1866472I moved on to HoI IV because it is the superior and more strategic game.
>crusade for asturias>i contribute the most, title is given to my nephew as my benefactor>he gains a bloodline>we are the same dynasty>i want to marry into it so we can merge bloodlines>nopolitical considerations is stupid
>>1866733even matrilineal won't work, it's fucking dumb
>>1866733>>1866735Retarded even. Although, I'm pretty sure you still can do it if you buy a favor and use it to arrange the marriage. But his child can't be an heir to any holdings
>>1866737he died and his daughter accepted
>>1866733Is there really no a mod for turning theses symbols into numbers? I'm getting eyesore trying to count red minuses.
>>1866764Isn't it basically always either "pay him 20 gold" or "you will never convince him" anyway?
>>1866627Oh, it's only Britannia, France and Denmark. That's a shame. I was hopping for bigger scope. Granted you would have to make up a lot of rulers and realms.
>>1866768Well, there is also around 1/3 of modern Germany and a chunk of Sweden and Norway, but yeah, the idea is that you play as one of the warlords during post-roman collapse. Ostrogoths and Byzantines are represented as unlanded off-map empires you can marry into.
>>1867128not him but is that era interesting
how do i do my retinues? i always struggle with thisi just made 4 breton knight retinues
>>1867142i hate that they dealt away with those beautiful paintings in favor for sims-esque characters posing. it gave the game and each event so much charm
>>1867190in ck3 i mean
>nomads are so weak sauce in HIP they always end up feudalized by the time Mongols arriveThanks.
>>1867178IDK it if applies anymore but pikemen and archers used to be the "meta" I thinkI just do a mix of everything desu
>>1866600Any strong county with lots of holdings. Constantinople is an obvious one, Middlesex, Barcelona, basically anywhere in Germany. Click around until you find a half decent character or make one. For your first character all you really need is enough martial to conquer a county in your duchy and you'll steamroll from there. Your biggest challenge will probably be religion. Catholicism has a very hard time getting going with so many tiny Catholic counts getting raided over and over again by heathens, it's worse than a traditional game with a pre 1066 start. You will have a lot of heretic revolts but usually after about 50 years or so it calms down. You could convert to whatever heresy is popular near you and holy war everyone after the consolidation CB wears off. The pope will call crusades on you but probably wont be able to launch them and if he does they'll be pathetic.
i got an invasion on england and then i destroyed the title because i was annoyed with all the claimants but i still get factions like this with no claim on brittany? is it because i have it as elective monarchy?
>>1867375>is it because i have it as elective monarchy?Yes
Will the zealots that spawn from having a bloodline get angry if i don't use them for war?
>>1867376oh, also why are they joining independence factions despite high opinion?
>>1867403Clearly not high enough.
>want to do ebin rome>remember byzantine elective monarchy>not want to do ebin rome
>>1867414>Medieval Rome be gay anyways.
>>1867446romans be shoppin
I wish ck3 never came out so pdx and most importantly modders kept developing this game
is there any historical record of vassals demanding gavelkind
>>1867459samethe coom factor of ck3 us too strong all modders choose it
>>1867483>gavelkindIt's kinda made up that it was a common thing across EuropeBut related systems were in place for a surprisingly long time
>>1867459>>1867484What are some good CK2 mods anyway? I played Elder Kings and WTWSMS and they were ooookay
>>1867486but did a noble ever demand it or have a war over it
>>1867133>King Arthur>Unification of Britons (if you are romano-briton you can reform Roman empire as the last decision)>Bloodthirsty Anglo invasion >Bloodthirsty franks invasion >Roman larp(you can even restore empire twice if you're autistic enough) in Britain and Gaul(if you unite both it becomes WRE and you get crown from ERE)>VikingsNah shit is boring
>>1867496didnt vikings come later
>>1867493not that i know ofbut it would've been hard when it didn't exist
>>1867509i thought it was a thing in the british isles
>>1867493In Polish history something like that happened, but it was more complicated.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boles%C5%82aw_III_Wrymouth>In view of his father's disapproval, and after discovering the plans of Sieciech and Duchess Judith-Sophia to take over the country Zbigniew gained an ally in the young duke Bolesław. Both brothers demanded that the reins of government be handed over to them. It is difficult to believe, however, that Bolesław was making independent decisions at this point as he was only 12 years of age. It is postulated that at this stage he was merely a pawn in service of the Baron's power struggle. Władysław I Herman, however, agreed to divide the realm between the brothers,[66] each to be granted his own province while the duke – Władysław I himself – kept control of Mazovia and its capital at Płock. Władysław also retained control of the most important cities, i.e., Wrocław, Kraków and Sandomierz.[67][68] Zbigniew's province encompassed Greater Poland including Gniezno, Kuyavia, Łęczyca Land and Sieradz Land. Bolesław's territory included Lesser Poland, Silesia and Lubusz Land.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mieszko_III_of_Poland>On 27 July 1144, the Dowager Duchess Salomea died and High Duke Władysław II incorporated the Łęczyca Land into the Seniorate Province as intended by his father's testament. This was again opposed by Bolesław IV and Mieszko III, who wished to give this land to their minor brother, Henry.>Once they had consolidated their rule over Poland, Bolesław IV and Mieszko III made new decisions. Bolesław, as the elder brother, succeeded Władysław as high duke and ruler over Silesia. Mieszko, on the other hand, retained his Duchy of Greater Poland and was satisfied with his role his brother's ally. Henry, the next-born, finally received his Duchy of Sandomierz. Only the youngest brother, Casimir II, remained without lands.
so what historically only the eldest got any land and the others got shafted?
>>1867546Generally? But it depends on the region and time. Partible inheritance it's called and it was relatively limited. Gavelkind is mostly Celtic parts of GB. PDX must've did it for the entire world for balance reasons.There's a reason there was a lot of brother to brother killing to prevent possible claimants.The feudal fragmentation in Poland was caused by a specific will not the standard.
>>1867562medieval inheritance is so weird, the story of william the conqueror confused the shit out of me
>>1867574FWIW half of it was "i have an army so i manufactured a link to an ancient dynasty or rome, yoink"But trying to make sense of a billion principalities before the printing press making up their rules is why they are examples for every inheritance system possible irl kek
>>1866472Yah it's a fun game
>>1867576william was more a he said she said basisoh the king promised me england when he was drunk
NOVA ANGLIA
>>1867660based
>made me pirate linux ck2 and download wtwsms againagh
let the trolling begin
>>1867681ck2 is free and you can get the dlc free by adding a few files
Is there anything in this game better than changing religion, revoking either until you achieve critical mass and nobody opposes your or until you bait your vassals into rebellion, revoking everything and creating an ultraroyal administration with your religious supporters? I'd normally revoke the cities too but there's way too many in this mod
>>1866472of course its amazing why should i not play it?
>>1867715Let him go free right now
>>1867779The Bishop of Rome has been expopriated, his lands redistributed to loyal HELLENIC priests, and banished from this land, never to return. So he has, indeed, been let go.
i just did a full playthrough with reforming paganism.was fun but my vassals kept expanding and expanding lol, ended up with basically all of ireland and eastern europe on top of skandinavia
>>1867773is this the wtwsms mod? is it up to date and stable?
>>1867826ye 3.3.3 and works for merenovatio imperii in progress
>>1867191Yes we know what you fucking mean. Jesus.
>>1867832did you get it from steam, moddb, github or somewhere else?
>>1867715Kino.
>>1866472I've kind of done all there is to do (until More Bloodlines gets updated)I still prefer it to CK3 though
is there a mod that stops faggots from demanding to be in the council even if the council is not empowered?
>>1867983Just disable Conclave dummy.
>>1867895What did you do with your Papal States? It makes everyone I give it to Catholic and independent. Does it get disabled after you restore the real Pontiff?
>>1867984but it has good features like the educations
post capitals
>>1868012i dunno why my screencap did thisi really enjoy playing tall, i have an addiction
>>1868017CK2 is the one PDX game where playing tall is actually better than blobbery
>>1868017Brittany is like the one kingdom you can hold all yourself with a merchant republic on the side.
>>1868072beacuse of the vassals i guess ,but if you know how to manage them it's better to just blob for more leviesit takes a lot of gold to play talli only got the gold from crusade warchests>>1868082yeah
>>1868089You should spiral with income if you do a lot of building
Sometime you gotta wipe out a lineage to get a province for yourself :)
: - )
The mudswimmers have been subjugated
pfft
>>1868092i am, but it's because i built 4 city holdings in one county and had them all pay tax to mei wonder if i could get more money if i create a trade republic vassal
It's weird that Invasion CB will also transfer everything you occupy directly to you, but I made use of it to take the European part of the false Empire too.>>1868200Probably but trade republics are always sooo disloyal and therefore won't make you cash
i don't really like this whole pope crowning demands thinghe wants my entire fucking capital duchywhat the fuck is his problem?
>>1867491winter king is really good if you havent tried it yet
>>1868256i've never seen that huh
>finally download the ck3 asoiaf mod>all the starts are meme shit from the prequal books and short stories>not even a century of blood startwtf are these retards doing?
I know that rebellions every six seconds are peak Roman RP but I will rip my ballsack off and eat it if I have to put down another 184 peasant and religious rebels every month
>>1868280he is an absolute niggerhe will always demand jesus's foreskin, then if you dont have a tier 3 religious artifact he will keep bouncing between money or asking you to do something retarded like fight an excommunicated king that has 3 times your levy while you are bankrupt from the coronation or give a duchy like that
>>1868289I actually almost always get money or investitureBut then I don't play Catholics that often
>>1866472I switch between modded ck3 and ck2 alot. Ck3 has better total conversion other then the game of thrones mod. ck2 has deeper mechanics overall.
>>1868293ck3 feels too easy to game/fuck with due to the control the player has on the MAA
>>1866472I prefer it to CK3.The visuals just please my eyes better, especially with some mods.
i have a great walls in my capital and a grand palace in my second biggest countywhat do i put in my third one?
It is almost done.>>1868314You reminded me how to spend all the fuckin cash I have
>>1868320yeah great works are amazingmy guy has syphilis and now i am incapable foreverbased
>>1868295that's true I have to actively hold myself back playing ck3.
>>1868323i completely forgot about thembut i just put in one in every piece of my personal domain
i hope this works or i'm eating my nutshttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2524269291
the pope should only ask for money man, it's dumb that he would ask for anything elseis there even a record of the pope acting like this historically?
>>1867998I honestly don't remember, i need to launch game to check it. Also there some faiths who managed to reform and they spam endless crusades on my lands, even tho they have no armies and land, which is annoying.
>check dynasty>not bad but not a lot of branches>almost nobody is marriedfucking incels gotta arrange everything for them>>1868338 meI think it does work oh god yes>>1868350I can confirm that reforming the Pontiff doesn't delete itI've been keeping it in my domain for so long
>pope is my vassal>crusade for jerusalem>win>pope gets the title>i lose my pope vassal even though i am still higher rank than him as emperor????what
>>1868386even the victory text bugged
>>1868387cherry ontop
Seeing my Proconsuls slowly disenfranchise the non-Roman nobility under them is also comfy
>>1868387That happens when the beneficiary croaks and there is no replacement so the pope gets it.
>>1866472do millionaire courtiers still exist? you could just imprison their entire family and execute them one by one until they have no relatives left and you inherit all their money and items I once played a megacampaign and all the gold I amassed in ck2 lasted me until mid 1600s
>>1868399but why did i lose my pope vassal? had to war him again to get him back with another antipopehaving a pope as a vassal is so buggy
almost donei think i only need to take their caucasian province to usurp
>>1868414I believe it's because the crusade recipient must be independent so the pope gets his as result.
>>1868433oh wait it's not usurpablebruh
>the imperium romanum region required to reform isn't all provinces from the reconquest cb>a bunch of ugly single provinces outside the main duchies and kingdomssigh okay
>pay 2k for max quality sword>it's the same thing i have>get 20k gold backi had that happened like 4 times now
Almost 200 years to the T, it's done.
>>1868493Huh? I am sure i had to conquer Dutch and some other german lands when i was trying to reform it.Also i guess you playing without Threat, giving you basically speedrunned it.
>>1868552Maybe they changed the requirementsBut the latest version is years oldThere any other interesting nations in it?
>the guy who put romulus augustulus on the throne was a fucking hunic advisor to Attillawtf history is better than this game
>>1868575Garmantes follow ancient Egyptian religion with a lot of flavor, they get society, holy order and you can reform Pharaohs' EgyptThere are two Assyrian counts under Sassanians in the first two starts. Their religion isn't very fleshed out, but they can reform AssyriaGoths and Vandals are relatively challenging in that you play as religious and cultural minority, ruling over Romans and other natives, with their own religionsThere are some pretty unique religions like, Total Depravity, Sethism or Neoplatonism although they don't have unique content, or at least not much and you need to convert via Holy Site or heretic provinces to unlock them
>>1868592>Garmantes follow ancient Egyptian religion with a lot of flavor, they get society, holy order and you can reform Pharaohs' EgyptSounds like my kinda deal, you can get a Kemet flavor name in vanilla tooWhere are they? I don't see them. Only Nasamoni as independent Kemeti at the start.
>>1868597
>>1868600Oh yeah didn't think they'd be so far westNasamoni are closer to Egypt, bet they'd be bit easier?
>>1866627>The Winter King. Very neat, although a bit railroady Get the github version.What's new in it? I stopped playing when they said years ago that they'd be releasing a new version soon
>>1868434dumb
>>1868433how do you guys maintain all your vassals with empires this big?
>>1868493VGH
>>1868597not that anon but fun fact we barely know jackshit about the Garmantes i always find them to be a fascinating history
>>1868493Imagine.............................................................
>convert to judaism for shits and giggles to get the achievement >cant form israel cuz holy orders are thereSIGH
>>1868780anyways i was bored of that game anyways, now to play khazarsi have no clue what i am looking at
>>1868753These are all various viceroys, kingdom level.With the cash, retinue, and opinion boost from granting I had vassals rebel only when I wanted.
>hate the council mechanics especially as a nomad because glory hound niggers wont let me reform tengri because the target is too weak>turning off conclave removes a ton of other shit i like such as ambitions mercenary company forming and some laws i likei hate pdx so much its unreal
>>1868813You could appoint pragmatists or loyalists, you could buy a favor or two, you could request councilor support. And yet, you prefer to bitch here
>>1868821bitching is easiersuch as me bitching about the fact i can't upgrade my silk road trade post because i don't have trade practices 1 even though i do and i can't find anything about this online
>>1868826>i don't have trade practices 1 even though i doYou need to have it in the province where the trade post is, not in your capital.
>>1868826Is the silk road post in the same province that has the technology?>>1868828This, technology in CK2 is tied to provinces
Does anyone know how nomad tech spread works? I feel like every time China has golden age nomad capital tech goes sanic.
>>1868775ROMA AETERNA memes aside I do have to wonder how much of that stereotypical amalgamated Republican/Ceasaroaugustian Roman culture was even left at the time of Romulus Augustulus. Nobody talks about this.
>>1868837As far as I know, not much. It had been five hundred, the things were bound to change.
>>1868828>>1868829yeah the silk road province is my capitalhas trade practices 1
>>1868899>capital holdingNow hover over the actual province.
>>1868899>4-0-0 on the county tech panelclearly you dont have it yet, you're probably missing 0.001 tech points
>>1868899>Each Nomadic capital has its own off map technology counter!https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Nomadism#Nomads_and_technologyCheck the actual province as >>1868900suggested.
>>1868900>>1868911>>1868906oh you are correctthat is so confusing what the hellbut i guess because they are nomadic so their tech is whereever they go
lol my tengri holy order generated with a catholic leaderi had to kill him with a plot to remove him
>>1868575Idk, i play this mod only as romans. Also i hate that you can't force people to convert as hellenic, and can't really stop vassals from doing external wars, and making borders a bit ugly.
>>1868950No religious revoke is a bit of a bother but oh well>>1868948Did that actually help? These special titles tend to be religion locked annoyingly
>>1868956yeah the heir was tengri
>>1868957Oh that's goodDefinitely remember these unique titles to be religion locked sometimes
well that was boring, nomads are just way too easy
8 fucking attempts to kill her kekmy sides
>>1869024Fun fact if you do this as Venice your entire trade republic will be horses forever
>>1869033why?
having vassals "desire the duchy of x" is the dumbest thing ever
>>1869034Is electable and they fill their courts with horsiesI did it for the shits because I got it randomly and I had my entire merchant oligarchy filled with horses
>>1867836why'd you get so mad at that lol
what great work should i build in venice? thematically a great harbor would work and would also give lots of money but i am also seeing value in a great palace for retinue since republics with upgrades get 1200% more retinue
>that one AI with carousing focus that lives so long and befriends 3 generations or more of your rulerswholesome
>start as count of jerusalem under abbasblob>slowly control all of jerusalem>secretly convert to jewish>lead an independence war because the caliph is a child>win>found israel>one of my courtiers is jewish and has a claim on the arabian empire>push it and win on the weakened abbasids>there is now a jewish arab empirelaughing
>>1869539>win great holy war for iraq>get 82917348923894 titles>ask for help managing my titles>my chancellor creates an even bigger mess>quitsuch is life
Hi, anyone know how to get the UI to be bigger on a 2560 x 1440 monitor? It's so hard to play with the UI so small
>>1869632
>>1869627Just create five duchies and give them to your sons and generals
>>1869650the AI gave a ton of baronies to random duke tier vassals i have and made a mess so now i can't make a good looking realm anymore
i want to randomize a world then shatter it, how do i do that? it always just goes back to normal world if i shatter
>>1869737nvm i'm retarded
>>1869639Makes text super blurry, tried the bigger interface mod but it's still the same.
>>1869627>not creating vassals in the lesser holdings>not taking out a bunch of holy men for free to give them the lands>not giving them viceroyalties so you have permanently loyal vassalsngmi
>>1869758yeah im never using the "ask for help managing my titles" button again
raiding hosts are so cancer, what a shit mechanic
>>1869776I always enjoy Altaic raiders in Morocco.
>>1869632i just lower the resolution, also helps with performance cause my pc aint that good
>>1869776Maybe there's a mod to disable them like with peasant rebellionsI would not play without the latter again
>be me
Taking a break from AGOT multiplayer because it crashes on a specific day every time, wish someone would rewrite this mod without bugs
>>1870167Try using older autosave, I have that problem with HIP on occasion.
>>1869897why do you hate peasant rebellions so muchis it a blobbing thing
>>1870198I think it was a WTWSMS thingPeasant rebellions every tick :-)
bump
>>1866472No
>Seljuk and Sabuktigin succeed in their initial conquests>but because Sabu caught a province bordering Merv Seljuk tries to vassalize him>they're equally strong but Sabu wins>Seljuk tries to take Khorasan from Samanids but gets rekt>zoroastrian revolt takes Merv, kills Seljuk's sons and overthrows him, he dies a childless loser>Sabuktigin makes way to Sindh only to become Deccan tributary and flip RajputNever have I seen such magnificent implosion of the two with such speed without player intervention.
Blessed timeline
>>1866472All I need from this game is having slightly better pagan reform options (won't lie, CK3 spoiled me here about it) and it's perfect.
>>1866647... yes?The reason it doesn't make sense is that is happens in all starts, while it didn't become an official doctrine with geocentric model until 10th century, so it shouldn't do anything prior to 901 or so
>there's atenist heresy in wtwsmsHOLY B A S E D
Ostrogoths took over Odoacer, then Marcianus Villachus the Liberator declared independence as ItaliaHuh
Nobody is joining the Kemetic warrior lodge for some reasonI'm stuck at 30% progress
First parcels of Egyptian soil liberated from the perfidious "Romans".
>>1871906what do you mean?
>>187193930% progress to gathering since nobody is doing anythingBecause it's only me in the order kek
>>1871968Try recruiting your children. I think Societies need at least two characters to work properly
>>1871974I did have two, but yeah nobody elseProbably because it's there by game start and that breaks it or somethingI wonder if I could delete the thing via commands and have it be a decision to reform or something
>>1871978Okay I think it's because we're not tribal, so nobody but mission kids can join and I can't get missions because I'm aloneGotta leave and rejoin to spawn another member
>>1871981Feudal only makes it so you can't freely rec your kids. People should be joining the lodge unless it has some bullshit requirements.
Anyway, is there any way to get feudal from sub-roman government? I'm permalocked into shitty inheritance and a permanent relation malus because of it
I still play it. Just finished up an mp campaign with a friend in TWK where I formed the High Kingship of Ireland as a Pelagian King, while he took most of eastern Ireland and built a huge basilica. Now I am preparing a competitive game for me and 4, possibly 5 friends. The gist is as follows:>Be angle duke in continental Europe>Become landless through a slightly altered "Cipher's courtier expansion">Raise a mercenary army and fleet and invade in any of the coloured spots in image>have to form one of the six Angle Kingdoms coloured on the map, we are not allowed to change either culture or religionCompetition is to become the Bretwalda, which has two notable mechanics>Have to control at least 50% of all anglian-held lands either through vassalage or tributaries>Kingdom of Anglaland is forfeit upon death, unless one enforces their Kingdom's supremacySo basically we will play for however long, and since the title is bound to pass between players as we rise and fall throughout the game, the player whose dynasty holds the title the longest wins. If one of us manages to enforce our Kingdoms' supremacy, then that player wins. After that, idk, we might just play on.
>>1872004Apparently notI'll just cheat in the late administration reform ig
>>1871850Barbarian kings in WTWSMS are in deep crap, because all, or vast majority of their vassals and land are Roman and they don't get anything to compensate, no levies, no event troops, no opinion boosts, nothing.>>1872004When the World... or Winter King?
>>1872054WTWSMS but like I said, I just cheated the inheritance inShould I switch to Coptic for the Kemetist larp? Not entirely accurate but closer than Germandes
>got viceroyalties>quick mass revoke of what i can>others rebel and get put down>time to fill the realm with ultraloyal vassalsNever gets old!
>>1872056Why not. There is no other native Egyptian culture, is there?
>>1872063I don't see any. And I did it. Nice and clean.
>>1872061viceroyaltie should've been limited to byzantium
>450 courtiers>start sending them out>tens of thousands of bucks stay in the countryOligarchs...
Managed to reform the priesthoodTime for some roleplayy releases
>>1872123Granted them to my kids, released, and allied. They can fight the Africans back West while I focus on reclaiming Egyptian Levant. Will probably release Tripoli afterwards when I get it.
>revoking kingdom as empire makes me the kingdom and makes the empire titularErm, nigger?
>>1866472Not consistently, but every now and then.It's still bether than III, tho
>>1866472Get CK2 for free,Hmm, an incest simulator with gay KingsOkay, I will just do a WCOh, a crusade, better send an army I guess.Don't know what the fuck is going on, do fuck all.See zerg armies, friends and enemies, roving around everywhere like headless chickens. Looks more like WW1 for retards.Somehow get a huge payout from doing Crusade despite doing fuck all and losing most of my army. Money is no longer a problem and makes any attempt to build up the nation seem pointless.Pretty much have to disband the army every time a war is over, then go through the whole tedium of click and collect for each new war.Fuck doing a WC. Carpal Syndrome.Look at the incest simulator side of the game. Oh right, its min maxing traits with a hefty dose of rng. How fucking boring.Look at the political side of the game.Yup, its mechanic abuse 101 Into the trash bin it goes.
>>1872165kek whati've never had that happen
>>1872165What the hell? I don't think this was actually possible
>>1872316>>1872317I think it's a bug with republic kingdom titlesI had that before for sure
So after these two plays I'd say WTWSMS is pretty cool, but too pre-Holy Fury vanilla to be that replayable for meI had my CK2 fill for the year
>>1872347see you next year anonor month
Am I autistic if I restart the 769 start date everytime if the ai doesn't end up forming the HRE or Francia?
>>1873023it's normal, because in most cases catholics are fucked if the AI doesn't do it
What start date do anons usually play?
>>1873036i love 769the chaos it creates is amazing especially with the aztec invasion on
>>1873051I always turn it off cause the catholics are already weak enough to begun with
>>1873055well if i play as catholic and help HRE form then usually that's not the case
>>1873036769 because pagan reformations are the only interesting vanilla thing for me anymore
>>1873036iron century because they didn't have to populate it with random characters and self inserts
>>1873065What's wrong with 1066 then?
>>1873036I really like 1204 with the Latin Empire, otherwise 936
>>1873036The earliest date for Jerusalem is real fun too, something around 1190 iirc
>>1866511>oy begorrah
>>1866768>Granted you would have to make up a lot of rulers and realmsIIRC this mod is already based on some book series instead of historical documents in the first place, so I'd assume what is there is already made-up.
What are some essential eye-candy (or rather, anti-eye-sore) mods to have? The maps just look ugly and the UI text makes my eyes hurt.
>>1873065>>1873140What's so good about 936?
>>1873653It's a reasonably fair start date for most european nations. Italy is still independent, HRE blob isn't formed yet, England is united and most nordic countries are in a position to expand more.
>>1868256>>1868280In a recent game one of my vassals left my realm due to inheriting a kingdom, then they immediately gave the land away to the knights due to coronation demand, then the Pope immediately gave me a claim on the knight’s land and I took it backwhat a dick
>>1874830kekwhat's annoying is how as an emperor you need him to do it and every time he demands something dumbyou can never keep jesus's foreskin even if he has 500 copies of it
Best fantasy-themed CK2 mod? I've played a lot of AGOT and a bit of warhammer. The elder scrolls mod any good?>>1873036>>1873653I like 936 because you don't have to deal with the karling megablob (769 and 867 both suffer from this problem), and conversely the vikings are much fewer so you don't get total Catholic collapse from -30% MA from raiding. Germany usually survives but doesn't usually become the HRE megablobMuslim realms are strong but not 769 strong, and Crusades are usually fun when they unlock.Overall it has a good scattering of medium-sized realms, with no region especially likely to implode
>>1873573https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1578835612https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=734350648https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=735130352
>>1868326i did the same thing with ck2.These games aren't difficult, they are as difficult as you make them.In ck2 I had rules I played since it is way too easy if you are minmaxxing.I wouldn't just blob around as that would be too easy, and I would try to retain a small family and only use marriages for roleplay purposes as its stupid how easy it is for a count of nowhere to marry the english kings daughter or the french ones. I loved starting as count and actually roleplaying my decisions, if my ruler was a charitable slow character I'd go wild with sending gifts and throwing money at everything, if my character was a shrewd ambitious genius I would go for the minnmaxing blob route, I always kept the partiton on though as I really loved the reconquer if an empire or just revolt fights if a lower duke.
>>1875250>The elder scrolls mod any good?I remember liking it.
Always felt the portraits were mega ugly and the decisions too arbitrary>you cant reform your religion unless you own all 5 holy sites fuck you!!!
>>18753893*you need only 3 holy sites
>>1875250>The elder scrolls mod any good?Eh it's okay but it's a lot of bloat for little substance.>>1875378CK2 is arguably even easier. You can go from count to emperor in one character if you want.
>>1875637>CK2 is arguably even easieryeah but ck2 has soul and a better UI.The ck3 ui feels like a mobile game and just sucks. The graphic desiger who made it should be fired.I have a harder time getting into ck3 just because of the ui. I loved the ck2 one, only people complaining were people who played the game for an hour and never touched it again.
>>1866764It's kind of cryptic on purpose. Usually ---------- means that it's blocking and they will never say yes no matter what you do, although Political Concerns isn't actually one of themhttps://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Diplomatic_actions
Want to play CKII after a while, but can't get the DLC's I downloaded (for free) to work, and can't remember what I did before. Is there an updated Cream_api I need, or was it something to do with the DLC signature file?
stories?>playing as a duke in greece>get cancer>i know it's bad so i ask physician to try his best>makes me a fucking lunatic and fails treatment>off with his head>hire new physician>i am now a lunatic so my guy hires the horse as a physician >horse MD>ask him for help>choose the riskiest option again>fucking cures me of cancer>i an choking laughing>go and check my horse MD>"died horsing around" a day after curing mei thought that was it, i was going to die of laughter that dayfuck man the shit this game does
>>1877403>start as Oneill in 1204 with HIP>work on uniting Ireland>half of it belongs to England already>steady progress>look South>England blue>"Kingdom of Aquitane">check English king>it's a 7 year old girl>holds both England and Aquitane kingdom titles>got booted out of power soon after spiraling the English lands into years of rebellionAll that because a little girl liked blue more than red.
>>1877403For as much as I hear about the horses and other animal cultures I rarely ever see them, I think I saw a bear once and horses only when playing as a khan
>>1877620you need absurd events to be ticked on for the bear to happen, as for the horse you need absurd events on and the lunatic trait
>>1877620Yeah it's the lunatic stuffWhat an absolute annoyance that trait is, anyway
>>1877625i love it, you have to be soulless to hate it
>>1877628I wouldn't mind it if I didn't use to get it for every character because of injuries
>>1877629just don't ask for radical treatmentsi once did and got all 7 deadly sins kek
>>1877631Apparently it's from stress and depression tooAnd I happen to always get them
>>1877638kek
>>1877623I always play with absurd events on, I don't get lunatic often though
>>1873653It's literally the only playable date>No Karlings>No Seljuks>No HRE (yet)>Italy outside of it anyway>Reasonably sized Byzboob>Middle East is on a downward spiral, but can be fixed>No bullshit viking raids, but in the same time not defanged Scandis>Central and Eastern Europe is getting into shape, but isn't blobs yet>Balanced situation in Iberia>France is big on paper, but has to fix its shitEffectively, whenever you start, it's perfectly balanced and with no entrenched superpowers or massive blobs, while tech is advanced enough to not cock-block you after five years.The only bad thing is that the Tang dynasty is gone, but that's only important for Tibet and Central Asia
>>1876855>ck2>better UI.Can someone please explain me this meme?CK2 has one of the worst UIs of all PDX games. Only maybe the release one from Imperator was worse when it comes to post-2010 games, and in overall, CK2 is easily in the "top" 3 worst UIs of their games (the first spot being always there for original HoI)
>>1877711Any start other than viking age means the pagans get obliterated for me
>>1877778... and that contradicts any of my points... how?
>>1877801You said it's perfectly balanced
>>1877737>CK2 has one of the worst UIs of all PDX games.what is your reasoning when you say this how is the UI bad?Everything is there, it doesnt have too many buttons and its quite good looking and has a good art style relevant to the time period.
>>1877737i like ck2, prefer it over 3dunno where that meme started either, i agree 2 has the worst UI possible
>>1877711No massive blobs just means irreversible bordergore, how is that a good thing?
>>1877737It just works thoughSome of it could be cut because it's dice roll number wankery but it's not like they removed that in later games
>>1877806pagans are supposed to get obliterated
I have NEVER seen AI asturias survive much less perform a reconquista
>>1878727i have, but that's cuz ummablob collapsed due to decadence
>>1878744My last game had a successful Andalusian catholic liberation revolt shitting them. And after getting shat out from Spain they inherited Abbablob.
>>1878727I don't think I've ever paid attention to Iberia in CK2 desu
>>1877130You probably need the newest creamAPIthe bright side is that you won't need to update it ever again, since ck2 is never getting another patch
>>1877806It's perfectly balanced to do whatever you want to do. Including solving surviving pagan's issues and get them back on track.Work on your reading comprehension, son
>>1877903>what is your reasoning when you say this how is the UI bad?UnintuitiveVery bad color choices, making things poorly defined and often hard to read just on pure contrast levelToo many clicks to get to basic shit"Hidden" options that are marked even worse, so you can completely miss the fact there is a tab thereNot designed at all for managing huge realm with loads of vassals and courtiers, since apparently it never occurred to anyone this is going to be the natural state of the player's realmAbsolutely fucking disastrous way of informing you of crucial shit (sometimes not doing that at all)Standard DLC bloat since the UI wasn't designed to handle any "extras"... and that's just from the top of my headCompare it with, dunno, Vicky 2, which has ten times as many information to convey, and yet does it effectively. And that UI has its own issues, yet not on such basic level.
>>1878727And nothing of value was lost.
>>1879769creamapi auto updates now
>>1866472I still play it for Merchant Republikinoplus I like making mods for it
>want to do a memerun with a Hellenic Goth nomad and settle in Nepal>apparently there is zero graphics for Hellenic temple in Tibetan graphic provinceVery nice. All bases covered.
>>1880470So you get the black placeholder or what?
>>1880470there's a mod for that my niggerlook up "Hellenic Bödpa Temple Fix" on the workshop
I think I'm finally going to buy ck3 lads. It's too hard keeping absolute council authority when doing my WC in ck2, I've heard it's piss easy in ck3.
>>1882004have fun anon, personally think ck3 is not finished yet
How to stop AI byzzies from blobbing in Ukrainian steppes? It's always such an eyesore
just one more mil org investment and then I can start blobbing...
>>1882270are pikemen really still the best retinues
>>1882398they're the best generic one but some cultural retinues still have them beat
>>1882403i dont get what makes them so good? from my understanding of the combat system they suck at persue and are only good at defence
What mods are still getting updates?
>>1882007I couldn't do it, I went back to playing ck2, ck3 is dogshit.
>>1882415With right commanders and composition they'll shred anything. Especially Scots and Italians.
>>1882455FaerunNew Era Old WorldAvatar Four NationsWarhammer Geheimnisnacht Just After the EndAGOT submodsThe Winter KingLux Invicta and Lux Ultima, but it's mostly maintenance Deposed ATE >>1780072There was also Mexican Submod and Southern American spinoff. Out of all these mods I would say first two got most content in the last years. Warhammer also got few updates and JATE is less shit than it was when it came out, but it's still pretty rough.
>>1882731>geheimnisnachti hope performance is slightly better, it took ages to go through just one character last I played it
>>1882731>expelled jews modifier
It's a shame that CK2 never got original fantasy mods.
>>1883440>original fantasy mods.Those are all fucking garbage, godherja is an abortion
>spend 200 years upgrading your demense before blobbingis this really the optimal way to play feudal?
>>1883487cranky because cenware ended your run, aren’t you
>>1884034>ended your runnigger it's literally impossible to lose in ck3
>>1883998yeah or just blob and blob more with the blobbingi always play tall so i don't blob
>>1883998No, you want to become a kingdom asap, because their laws can be quite useful, and empires allow you to have enormous demesne and viceroyalties, as well as imperial administration later on. You can make a lot of money through blobbing and constant wars, if you are smart about it, and invest it in your lands Still, I like playing tall-ish. Being rich autocrat is fun
>>1875321Much better, thanks.
>>1883998it's the optimal way to play republics, but for feudal realms you really want to expand as quickly as possible (unless you're explicitly intent on just playing tall), especially if you're starting as a count or a duke.it's like a more autistic version of feeding frenzy. you want to eat all the other small fish to become a big fish before a bigger fish can eat you.
>>1883998anon I'm going to tell you some blobber secret words of power use them responsibly jewsmercs popeand put your dick in the princess
>>1884296once you reach empire tier, blobbing becomes hilariously easy>find male claimant to neighboring kingdom, invite him to court>plot to kill current ruler so he goes into hiding (if it's a woman, has a regency, or your claimant has a strong claim you can skip this step)>give claimant some shitty barony somewhere>press claimant's claim on kingdombonus points if the claimant is a foreign religion and you have religious title revocation because then you can just take his titles for yourself after you win
>>1884078>>1884090>>1884233>>1884296>>1884406But if you blob uncontrollably without upgrading to have a good demesne troop count you get fucked by vassal factions
>>1884657there's other methods of dealing with vassals than just troops
>>1884660Like?
>>1884661marriages. keeping them imprisoned all the time. pitting them against each other. that kind of thing.
>>1884657vassal factions are irrelevant with proper internal and de jure border managementif you do somehow get them pissed off enough for a civil war to fire off, worst case scenario you hire a few merc stacks and rush their capitaland then they can all stay eternally loyal in a prison cellhell I wish there was a "provoke revolt" option for factions similarly to EU4 so I could prune the most disloyal of niggas when need be
>>1884673there is, it's called revoke title
>>1884701that doesn't guarantee a revolt though, and when one doesn't happen all your other vassals get an opinion malice if you didn't have a revoke reason. then there's the fact that you may have to do it several times to properly clean house, which will turn even more happy vassals into angry vassals along the way.
>fat fuck wife refuses fun time>oh well, I already have a heir so no worries>a courtesan is interested>whatcouldpossiblegowrong.jpg>fun time with courtesan>bitch gets pregnant>bitch is married to my chaplain >best chaplain around, putting heresy out left and right>everyone finds out>I have to pay the husband to keep him quiet>fat fuck wife tries to kill me>courtesan bitch is clubfooted >bastard child is clubfooted>somehow befriend the chaplain and we are best friends foreverI have to admit it, this game has its moments
>>1882731what part of faerun is best to start in?
>>1884657... what?Nigger, if you somehow crawled to empire tier and still don't know how to placate vassals and how to handle de jure stuff, you deserve to get chewed by the game.Also, if you get to imperial title without having at least a kingdom-tier military, either you pulled some gimmick shit or just cheated.
>>1884902>Also, if you get to imperial title without having at least a kingdom-tier military, either you pulled some gimmick shit or just cheated.not really its incredibly easy to just plot claims and then press them with mercs, but afterwards you get fucked by factions once the mercs disband.
>>1869670Consider this a lesson. Having the AI manage your titles will always be a disaster. I don't know if they hand them out randomly or poorly on purpose just to fuck you.
>>1885342baronies were really a mess in ck2 honestly, they shouldn't have been a thing
>>1885343shitter opinion
>>1885353no really, the inheritance and the AI is what fucked thempeople controlling a barony in a foreign county shouldn't be a thing, it causes a huge messat the very least make it a setting in the game
>>1884902>never played as the ERE
>random unrelated countess under a fellow duke starts a revolt for my claim on her liege lord’s duchyThat was fun. Glad it allowed me to intervene on her behalf. Game should have notified me or something because I wouldn’t have noticed if I hadn’t been curious about all the troops suddenly moving around.
>>1885380>it causes a huge messworking as intended. use the claim barony cb if it becomes a problem
>>1885479funny when you have 50 baronies in your realm like that and for each baron you take you have to fight a full fledged war with thousands of casualties
>>1885482holy orders are such non-issues that you can just stomp them with easeif you’re somehow having people outside your realm inherit baronies inside your realm but not counties in vast numbers then you have bigger problems than baronies to worry about, probably mod conflicts or something
>>1885555>holy orders are such non-issues that you can just stomp them with easeor just convert to the same religion as them which lets you expel them by decision for 1k piety, and then convert back
how do you get bishop nominations done in ck2 under papal investiture? I got a dude with learning education, decent traits etc but the random opinion penalties make it look like I shouldn't be able to get the nomination even if I somehow managed to get 100 relations with the pope. Seems easier to just straight up build a temple and grant it to the dude. It doesn't make sense to me, the pope shouldn't be so hard to convince.
>>1885567build a temple and give it to the dude or switch to free investiture
>>1885555it's not even holy orders, it's just scuffed inheritance from AI controlit happens a lot
>>1884063>he doesn't know about the misery that is aversarian gaming
Lads I was going for the "Defender of Holy Sepulcher" achievement recently>make it all the way until the crusades start>manage to deploy early and get in all the big battles>fucking win the crusade and swap to kid who is now king>get every achievement BUT the one I wanted>wathappen.png>look into it>because the tiny, 3 county DUCHY of Jerusalem became independent, and because you can only crusade against one realm at a time (must be kingdom or larger), taking everything else in the KINGDOM of Jerusalem doesn't trigger the achievement>try reloading backups of ironman save>it plays out the same way every time: Turks take kingdom, duchy rebels, duchy gains independence, can't get achievement>fml.exeNo wonder it's the 3rd rarest achievement. Even if you do everything right, the fucking AI kneecaps you and you can't get it. Fuck that achievement.
I do from time to time.I'm having a problem a little problem though and that is the death sound effects not playing when a character dies or is executed.Death sounds are turned ON in the menu and the sound files are in the "sound" folder and I never messed with them.I don't know if it makes any difference but the deaths sound files are in wav format, the vanilla game music is in ogg format and all the DLC songs are in mp3 format. All in different folders of course.
>>1885471Been playing a long term multiplayer game and the various players have intermarried so many times that everyone has weak claims on everyone else’s titlesAny time you end up with a weak character every vassal tries to put some other player’s gigachad in chargeExtremely funny that there’s no option to say “no I don’t want it”
>>1885389>I picked Byzboob without learning how to handle empires firstYou have only yourself to blame
>>1885958Nta, but it's unironically a skill issue, rather than the problem with the game on any level
>>1888174ah yes, it's my skill issue that the AI fucks up every county forcing me to micro manage shit when i conquer and having to go to 50 wars to get back all the baronies in my counties no, it's a shitty systemconquering a county should take the barony with it
>>1888185maybe you should stop blobbing one county at a time? get whole duchies/kingdoms and you get free revoke plots from the border gore
>>1888195maybe you should just accept that the game is flawed and that's okay because games can be flawed and still greatyes i know it can be solved, but it's very tedious
>>1888185literally no one is having this problem on this scale but you; what mods are you using? it sounds like you have some kind of mod issues going on to cause this
>>1888185>>1888199>Has genuine skill issues>Doubles down on insisting this is game's faultThere is being bad at playing the game, and then there is being and acting retarded while being bad at it.As the other anon put it: you are the only person having this problem. Meaning YOU are doing something wrong.
>>1883998>don't spend any money on demesne buildings, save it all for mercs>pick theology focus>get showered with events that remove your sins, give you virtues and a bunch of piety>ask pope for claims >use mercs to press claims>rinse and repeatThat's probably the easiest and most consistent way of playing as a Catholic count or duke, once you start capping out your demesne limit then you can start upgrading your capital. Investing in a building that takes 100+ years to pay for itself is so much worse than spending the money to get more provinces.
>>1887484Aw, no one knows how to fix my sound issue here?
>>1867562>>1867546It’s why the Carolingian empire was split into like four pieces
>>1867681Fallen eagle mogs it and has cooler start dates.
>>1888468Try pulling the Effect and Ambient volume sliders a bit to the right and then apply it.You could also try>turn off death sound>apply>turn on death sound>applyOther than that you could try the steam game repair function. Just save your dlc + cracks beforehand if you use any.If all else fails, just install this:https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1889104357
>decide to start grabbing some easy achievements>Outside Bet>my 2k levies vs Harald & Bastard William’s 10k event troops (each)>merc up and land in London, quickly realize I’ll need some allies to win this>neat, the French will accept>suddenly no longer at war with William (his liege is my war ally)>his sieges are giving me warscore>Harold gives up and surrenders to me>at war with William again>call France in against Harald>William’s war cancelsthis might actually be the easiest 1066 contender, lmao
>>1888259>>1888224you are retarded apologists, instead of accepting that the game has flaws you want to defend it even when it does something retarded like thatand yes totally, i am the only one having AI barony border gore
>>1888751barons in my games don’t tend to have enough children to get wacky bordergore issuesit’s counts that cause me problems, but that’s wad
>>1888816it happens a lot with holy wars for whateever reason
>>1888576Who are you playing as?
>>1888910Not that anon but he's playing Svend II of Denmark since he's the "The Outside Bet" challenge.>>1888530>Try pulling the Effect and Ambient volume sliders a bit to the right and then apply it.I'm gonna try this.>turn off death sound>apply>turn on death sound>applyAlready did and it didn't work.>Other than that you could try the steam game repair function. Just save your dlc + cracks beforehand if you use any.Oh, the problem is I'm not playing with steam. I have a pirated copy of the game + DLC. I was gonna buy it but dozens of anons told me to not give Paradox a single cent.
>>1889077anon, CK2 has been free on steam for a couple years nowif anything, just get a legit copy of the base game and run it with pirated DLC using CreamAPI
>>1889096>anon, CK2 has been free on steam for a couple years nowYeah, I meant buying the DLC, sorry.
>>1889077>I was gonna buy it but dozens of anons told me to not give Paradox a single cent.It's a shame because CK2 has some really good DLC. All the major expansions actually EXPANDED the game instead of adding dumb role-play and flavor events exclusively. You should 100% pirate it nowadays but back then I was fine with paying for it.
>>1889104>It's a shame because CK2 has some really good DLCYeah. I considered deleting my files and buying everything legit now just because I liked the game so much.What do you guys think about HIP? Is it good?
>>1889135yes it's good always been the best non fantasy mod imoif you're used to vanilla blobbing is not as fast and easy so don't forget to play the marriage game
>>1889145>if you're used to vanilla blobbing is not as fast and easy It kinda still is
Nothing worked. I'll try converting the death scream sounds to mp3, if it doesn't work I'll just give up and accept I'll play without one of the best things in the game.
>>1889174it takes way longer for conquered counties to give normal taxes and levies again, and the ez blob CB like holy war have cooldowns or harsher costs, you can't just steamroll across Europe as a muslim in a couple decades
>>1889188Maybe it’s just the way I play. I don’t min-max or do gamey shit like conquering all of Europe in 50 years, but I find that my expansion isn’t hindered in hip anymore then it is in the basegame. I’m not doing more then 1 holy war within 5 years anyways, and once I own the land it’s never leaving and vassals are never winning a revolt.
>>1888851kinda sounds like their succession isn't updating after the holy war for some reason and it's trying to go back to the previous owner of the county or something like that
Why do I have expel decisions for everyone except the fucks I actually want to get rid of (Knights of Malta)?They have a barony in Jerusalem that's preventing me from mending the Great Schism
>>1889135>Yeah. I considered deleting my files and buying everything legit now just because I liked the game so much.If you pay for it now you're supporting modern paradox, that money will just go to make more event DLC for CK3. EU5/Project Caesar looks promising but you never know.
>>1889263you can only expel holy orders if they're the same religion as you. Knights of Malta are Catholic and it sounds like you're Orthodox.
I want to play some interesting, lesser known historical people and found that Theoderic Merohingi, the last merohingian, exists in the game as a landless courtier somewhere in France at the earliest start date. That's pretty cool.
>>1889748He actually has a pretty powerful bloodline which attracts Great Warriors (generated courtiers with high martial, sometimes 30+) like the Carolingians, but for Germanic pagans instead of CatholicsHis bloodline is really good for Germanic dynasties, but because he’s a monk (historically he was confined to a monastery when his father was deposed) so he never marries and his bloodline dies out.As an extra challenge in a 769 Viking game, you can try to free him from the monastery, recruit him to Reformed Germanic (to remove the Monk trait) and get him married all before he dies. You get about 2 decades after the start, usually before the Viking Age event happens.
>>1866472Of course I do, CK2 will always be fun to play for me personally. Unfortunately, CK3 is irredeemable trash due to the developers' terrible core design decisions in regards to quite a few things. The most important being the crappy warfare system with worthless levies that constantly bankrupt the AI kings and destroys the quality of their armies. The AI can't handle its own game mechanics.It's impossible to lose even when you cripple yourself with handicaps. >>1872266>click and collectDo you not know what the rally sub tab is in the military tab? It saves you from the tedium of clicking. And if you really don't want to raise vassal levies at all then you can always just set up the immersive Call to Arms modification to call your vassals to war like tribals do. The mod makes taking on Kingdoms and Empires an actual threat now that their powerful vassals won't just sit around and watch their be invaded by foreigners.
>>1890057>picHow many times it crashed?
>>1867142.
>>1867142
>>1890066>>1890068is this modded? i've never seen this beforeso your courier saw the reaper before he did anythingi swear to god i see them join my court before the event happens, i wonder if there is a way to arrest them or something
>>1867178Study this https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Combat_tactics#Normal_TacticsPersonally, I often go 70% Pikemen and 30% Heavy Infantry (Two Pike regiments for every one Heavy Infantry.) for their great Charge, Force Back and Stand fast tactics.
>>1867414You can tyrannically force your candidate by relieving all your commanders and council members. They can't shit about it.>>1867403Those outside your dejure titles will join the Independence faction. They need 80+ opinion to quit all factions. Just marry your daughters (or marry their daughters) for a non aggression pact.
>>1890064Zero. Why do you think I crashed?>>1890072It's part of the Reapers Due supernatural content. There was two events that came before this. The first announced the 'Stranger' that somehow snuck into my secluded keep during the Black Plague. The second gave me a choice regarding what to do with 'it'. I choose violence over diplomacy unlike the other guy.
>>1867983Are you talking about the opinion penalty? Just modify the -40 to -4 or 0. Pretty easy.
>>1889187Verify the game files on steam to fix the issue.
>>1890072If you meant the map, then yes, it is modded. Calradian Kings (Mount and Blade Warband Era) to be exact.
>>1890085I played Calradian Kings before and it kept crashing
>>1890102Really? What did you do to crash it?
>>1890103I don't remember, it's been a while. But I mostly played as Swadian Imperial Duke and Nordic Jarl next to Zendar. It might have had something to do with Catholic/Calardian Church religion and Crusades, but again, I don't really remember.
>>1890111I just finished that campaign recently and there was no problem with the Calradics waging Crusades. You either had an issue with mod compatibility or forgot to place Calradian Kings in a dependency bracket in one of your .mod files like this; dependencies = {"Avatar - Four Nations Restored"} (the name of the mod is inside the mod's .mod file.)I put this dependency inside the Dark World Reborn .mod file. Without the dependency, the game would've crashed for sure.
>evens Merovingian Revival run in 769>odds Khazar coin cointer Republic in Israel in 936>>1867178Your best bet is usually your cultural retinue, since they tend to have synergy with your cultural building and your cultural tactics. Breton knights are some of the best available because they have good composition (Heavy cav), and access to a cultural building that boosts those heavy cav, and the absolutely insane Couched Lance Charge tactic for +420% heavy cav offenseCultures with a focus on weaker units like Light Infantry or Archers are usually better off building pure Defensive retinues (Pikes and Archers) since Pikes are quite strong. Depending on where you are, you can sometimes recruit commanders of a culture with better cultural Tactics, since those are chosen based on the commander's rather than the ruler's culture. Scots and Italians tend to make the best Pike commanders. You can also move your capital to a region with a better cultural Building, since it's based on the county's culture. Just try not to culture convert it by mistake.>>1867414>>1890076Just spend one or two generations on Seduction focus and you'll have enough dynasty members to fill every council spot and commander with your own men. Doesn't matter who wins since you'll play as them regardless.
>>1890126>Just spend one or two generations on Seduction focus and you'll have enough dynasty members to fill every council spot and commander with your own men. Doesn't matter who wins since you'll play as them regardlessyou don't even have to do all that, just keep your commander slots unfilled when you're not at war and buy favors from your 2-4 cheapest councillors to force them into supporting your candidate>>1867414of course, you could always do a republican Rome instead
Retinues are not really meant to be used as your main military force instead of levies, right?You need to have a very large realm in order to have a sizeable retinue army and the buildings that boost retinue size. Retinues will always by a small % of your levies.
>>1890301Yes but they can beat far larger levy forces.
>>1890303I heard pikemen are absolute monsters when defending that can beat armies multiple times larger including cavalry and if they get good tactics with a high skill general then you just pray for a pyrric victory at best even if you vastly outnumber them.I remember my first shocking defeat when I was playing the game for the first time. I was playing the tutorial scenario that you start with Alfonso VI de Léon, managed to expand into a large realm, thinking battles were too easy and the army that was slightly bigger would always win. I was at war with England, landed a 5k army in their shores, waited for the morale to recover, then moved in against a 1,8k army sitting on a hill and my army was obliterated.I don't remember the army composition of England but mine was a generic mixed levy stack with no generals on any flank since I thought it wasn't necessary and they had generals.It's really fucking cool when terrain, generals and tactics change the outcome of a lost battle even if it doesn't happen as often as it should.
>>1890301For feudal states, pretty much. They're your ace in the hole that can punch well above their weight and also get in position before the war is declared.For nomads your entire army is "retinues" and for merchant republics you get several bonuses to retinue cap and usually have way more money than levies. In that case your retinues usually are the core of your army, especially for the Italian republics that can field absurd amounts of pikes>>1890324Having those one or two extra points of martial really go a long way in close battles. I still try to bait the AI into river crossings and bad terrain even if I'm favored, out of habitYou don't often have to autistically make sure your flank-boosted commanders are on the flanks for every battle, but you sure appreciate it when you do
>>1890301>Retinues are not really meant to be used as your main military force instead of levies, rightthey are if you're playing a republicyou can easily get a 15k+ retinue as a single county duke in less than two centuriesblobbing as a republican superduke is also hilariously easy>all duchy titles bound together to single election, so realm will never shatter on succession as long as your dynasty keeps winning >vassals can't be mad at your title hoarding if you have no vassals (other than the other patricians who can't do shit)>trade post income makes demesne tax penalties irrelevant >get so much prestige from having so many titles and direct holdings that you can usually truce break as soon as the previous war is over>relying on retinues (and mercs sometimes) means you can always position your armies for an immediate assault right before declaring warI've gotten over 1000 direct demesne before, after 500 or so the game starts to get unstable and can crash somewhat frequently, especially when you finally start giving titles away (can take several minutes to give one duchy to one guy, that was when I was on an HDD though maybe SSD handles it a lot better)anyway everyone should try it sometime imo, you can carve out some pretty wacky title/religion/combinations by converting through your vast array of provinces.
Over a thousand hours and just now realized this button exists.
>>1890450So you never revoked a temple or city from an infidel within your demesne in 1000 hours? I find this hard to believe.
>>1890560I have plenty of times, I always gave it to a courtier manually afterwards like you do with Counties.
>>1890126>Merovingian Revival run in 769This has turned out to be a bit harder than I anticipated. This is my third attempt, the first one I bit off more than I could chew trying to subjugate the swedes, and in the second one I got into the viking death spiral of no ruler living for more than a few months before dying in a duelThis time around I've been lucky. The random counts all agreed to be peacefully vassalized, Wartooth's son hasn't died early, and most importantly Theuderic, the last Merovingian, wasn't part of his liege's councilI'm guessing because the Count of Eu has a pretty small court, Theuderic seems likely to end up on his council, preventing him from being recruited with a favor. You can still capture him while raiding and recruit him, but it's much harder.I also realized in this run after favor-inviting him that you don't need to reform the religion to continue his bloodline: once he's in your court he's tribal and can be given concubines. I gave him a few nice Finnish ladies we captured on raids and am hoping to marry him into the family soonThe downside I've discovered is that Merovingian blood deactivates for Reformed Germanic. I'm not sure why that is, and I'm wondering whether its worth continuing on as an unreformed pagan. Will certainly make this run interesting. Could always mod it in but I was hoping to pick up an achievement or two this go around
I still play from time to time. Issue is every time I play I start to think about how stale or useless some events or mechanics are, and how I should fix it with a homebrew mod. In the end I do nothing and just endure the pain until I end the game and do not play for another 4 months straight.
>Play vanilla multiplayer>Randomly starts crashing a few years in>Switch to GoT multiplayer>Randomly starts crashing a few years inCK2 remake on a new engine when
>>1890736sounds like a skill issueplay mp every week and we're currently 250 years in, no crashes and rarely desyncs
>>1890609>The random counts all agreed to be peacefully vassalizedI could never successfully vassalize anyone. Perhaps because I usually play somewhere in Europe in the 1066 start when there's not a single independent count or even duke around.I've tried to vassalize kings as emperor but they always refused no matter what then I found on the wiki page that kings never accept peaceful vassalization.
>>1890816Well 250 years is not much
>>1890825Multiplayer games usually don't last all that long
saars... I have redeemed the britisher empire...
>>1891128needful done
>>1890816>>1890825My bad, it's 1286 and we started in Iron Century, so it's 350 years. only 135 to go>>1890821Yeah, it's pretty rare that you can get a diplomatic vassalization unless you did something like press a claim for someone. I've only ever been able to get same-religion, same-culture rulers who like me and are two ranks lower to accept diplo vasslization.It's a quirk of 769 Scandinavia that the place is full of Norse Germanic counts that can be instantly united by the first Viking to get a kingdom title. The fastest way to do that is usually to subjugate Saxony on Day 1
>>1891128Indo-Aryans? Based
Recommend me some lesser known interesting characters/realms to try for something new. Using HIP btw
>>1891128>all the scots were deported to polanda fate worse than death
>>1891481Play the Circassians and genocide Russia
>its another episode of my best son being a flaming homo
what the fuck
>>1891743Dao finds the wayPraise the Eternal Heaven
>>1891481one of my favorite runs was starting as Giacapo Orsini (Count of Orvieto) in 1066. My goal was to go from being a vassal of the Pope to vassalizing the Pope. I got my independence from him in a war, swore fealty to the HRE, got elected Emperor, set up an anti-pope, and pressed his claim on the Papacy. eventually I even restored the Roman Empire, though that required a mod to do it as the HRE.
>>1891743what does the tibet region look like
I get really angry when an unmarried young daughter gets pregnant or is being targeted by seduction.What do you guys do when this happens?
>>1891997I pay zero attention to female dynasty members most of the time
>>1891855Tibet stronk
>>1892095This is one of the big problems with CK2. Empires essentially never collapse if they're not Muslim. Only if there's multiple empire titles but that only happens in India.
>>1891997kill the offender's entire male line and rape all of his daughters/take as concubines if applicable
>>1891997Either cloister her in the monastery or marry her down, to some old count or a loyal courtier
>No special event for the creation of the Empire of Alexander
>>1892124>kill the offender's entire male line and rape all of his daughters/take as concubines if applicableWhat if the offender is your liege or a powerful rival lord?
>>1892684Then it will just take you a lot longer>>1892599Probably because Alexander's empire lasted for ten years before he died, had been gone for over 1000 years by the earliest start date of CK2, and the Hellenistic influence of the successor kingdoms is long gone?
>>1891793>ask Pope for title>he gives me Orbetello>independence revolt while he's busy crusading in Egypt, easy win because I only need to besiege Roma>immediately swear fealty to HRE instead>fabricate and press claim on Worms so I can get elector seat>buy favors from 3 other electors, call in succession support>murder the Kaiser while I'm the expected successor>set up some random chucklefuck as anti-pope and press his claim>the shoe is now on the other footwell that was easy
Why are nomad khans such galactic assholes? They never vote for what I want, always plot to kill me and my family, and never join my wars, even when I give them shitloads of land, have 100 opinion, and are blood brothersI'm starting to think paradox is trying to say something about t*rks
>>1893162isn't nomadic like the easiest government in the game?just keep purging the other clans until they stop being annoying.
>>1893477Nork Nomad is the easiest shit imaginable. 8 clans with one county each and you invade everything else so only baronies under you. If any clans fuck off on succession just make new ones and reconquer them.
lets see where this goes...
a daring synthesis
>>1893528Help your wife Baldo
There is no war in Ba Sing Se.>>1892101That's not a problem, it's a bonus instead. Much better than the total collapse of all civilization in CK3 into tiny counties and duchies. Slap the Call To Arms mod on (In CK2) and you'll have even more fun and some immersion with attention to vassal relationships and distance. That weak Emperor with strong Kings and Dukes under him won't be so easy to push over then.
>>1891997>SeductionDisable the ability for the AI to take that focus.>the random event for unmarried daughterI almost never encounter this as I always marry betroth my daughters when they are young. Why do you have unmarried adult daughters in your court?
>>1893531Baldy's dead and the sooner mom croaks, the sooner I can unite the empires
>>1893560Why don't you just assassinate her? Speed up the process.
>>1891660tell him to close his eyes and think of england
Well, I can't say I didn't want something like this to happen. I just thought he'd target me instead of his niece.
>>1893562uh, because she's my MOM you sick fuckgives me time to go after all the little fish first, then when that's done, yeah probably I'll just kill her if she's still kickingalso, fucking holy orders and their independent baronies...
Rebels crushed. Pure Fire Bender Retinue Army is OP.>>1893576>holy orders baronyThat's why it's good to be an infidel, no more protection. Or you can just vassalize them. You're an Emperor, you should be able to do it.
>>1893560Why no kingdom titles?
>>1893593He's probably doesn't want the -25 opinion from his duke vassals.
>>1893598Lame as fuck
>>1893593Princely Elective makes every held kingdom title in de jure HRE give a stacking -15 opinion malus to vassals.because they are considered "Elector" titles
>>1893068wtf is that government type
>>1893647https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3025240877
has anyone in the history of CK2 ever used this feature? and if so, to what end?
>>1894031No I have the rule set to off.
>>1894031I use it to revoke women's rights in case I acquire a new title and the previous holder was a lunatic and granted them any.
accurate depiction of modern day france
>>1894085>Don't restrict diplomatic range bro. What could possibly go wrong?
>>1894089Vikang lunacy immediately tones down.
>>1894094I had to disable raiding after my last playthrough. It's zero fun having to raise levies constantly to deal with raiding parties. It's not a challenge because most of the time the raiding stacks are between 1~3k. They come from very far, constantly, they can walk freely around your realm and you can't do anything unless they actually start the raid. If your realm is large, you'll want to stop playing the game.I don't know if disabling raids is a significant handicap on raiding religions/cultures, but for me there's no other option. There should be a cooldown for it as in a realm that has been raided cannot be raided by anyone again for some time.The way it works in ck2 makes the game nearly unplayable for me.
>>1894176If you beat their raiders they can't raid you for like 5 years. not sure how it's a problem if you're kingdom tier honestly usually your dukes can just handle it by themselves
>>1894184>If you beat their raiders they can't raid you for like 5 yearsIF you can get to the party raiding your realm and beat them before they can flee, which is not always possible since they usually move much faster and are quick to flee, that raiding party in particular cannot raid you again for 5 years, but every single other ruler of count-rank and up that has raiding available, whether through culture or religion, can still raid you during that time.It's a problem because it's annoying, it's a nuisance, it happens nonstop and vassals do not always handle it by themselves.
>>1894200>settle an adventurer to deal with raiders>10 years even if the guy lives 50Gods this is the reason I never play in Transoxiana. Every 10 years you have to land some rando walking in.
>>1894216>GodsYWNBAW
>>1894031sometimes i click on it if anyone in my council has a favour on me and i dont want them to change some other law i have and theres no other law i want to change
>>1894031I always raise it until I can get a loyal lover spymaster
>>1893477>>1893483Don't massive rebel armies spawn constantly if the clans don't have most of the land in the realm?
>>1872011>Cipher's courtier expansion>Raise a mercenary army and fleet and invadeDid you lower the amount of gold you'd to pay for the mercs (both upfront cost and maintenance)? It's quite costly to do this without waiting for awhile.
>>1894596Only happens if there's less than 9 clans in the realm.
Just found out you can't grant a king or emperor-tier title to a vassal of a different government type.I wanted to set-up an emperor-tier antipope just for the fuck with the church and see what happens.
>>1894031i tick it whenever it's available for the shit of it
So, you can't grant vassals of different government types kingdom-tier titles but can they still create the title themselves if given control of the necessary land?I wonder if I can set-up an independent king-tier antipope this way.
>>1894957Theocracies might be banned from creating kingdom-tier titles. Holy Orders certainly are
>>1894957Theocracies are heavily restricted when it comes to titles. You could easily give some random republic empire title.
>>1894993>>1894958Apparently there are king and emperor-rank titles for theocracies and all other unplayable government types in the game, according to paradoxwikis. Even holy orders!How to arrange for vassals or independent rulers to create these titles though, might be too complicated.
>>1894957>>1894993theocracies can't create kingdoms, but you can get a king-bishop vassal by landing a claimant to some independent kingdom with a temple and then pressing the claim. interestingly enough, they're not forbidden from creating empires like Holy Orders are, only kingdoms. so it's theoretically possible, if an independent king-bishop has enough land, for him to create an empire out of it.>>1895034those exist mostly for the purposes of faction revolts. for example if a faction was led by a holy order and instigated a revolt against an Emperor, the holy order would temporarily become empire tier so they can have the other faction members as vassals for the duration of the revolt.
something else fairly interesting is that the various Empire only titles in the game also have unused portrait borders for lower ranks. >>1895056come to think of it, you could probably use the same method to create an independent theocratic/republic empire as well. though I tried it once by turning the ERE into a republic, and from what I remember it went back to feudal on succession. could just be because of buggy MR mechanics though. I'll have to try it again one day.
>>1894797crackedI basically never nork because the fun of the game is tard rangling, but I appreciate the tip
>>1894176Why does it matter to you if your border states get raided? If your vassal is strong enough, he can deal with the raiders on his own or you can just convert the pagan raiders fucking with your people. Just plop your court Chaplin/Iman onto their capital and voila! The raiders will disappear.>It's not a challengeIt's not meant to be a challenge, but a nuisance that any prosperous civilized realm has to deal with for a short time. You can always settle them too like the Roi of West Francia did. Don't allow your ego to get in the way of immersion and fun storytelling.
>>1895056You can get a claim on a temple, right-click to change county capital to that temple and then give the county away followed by the kingdom
>>1895394You cannot directly grant kingdom or empire titles to a character that has a different government type. This is exactly why the topic is being discussed, we are trying to find ways to sidestep this restriction.
>>1895413I must be remembering of being a nomad government then
well, it took a lot longer than I thought it would (my ERE claimant got assassinated despite every vassal, family member, and councilor having a positive opinion of him) but the Orsini dynasty has finally restored the Roman Empire after inbreeding their way to another Byzantine claim.Think I'll do a cheeky Hellenic conversion now
>>1895979Government type?
>>1896047see >>1893681
i'll probably give this game another go. i usually get bored starting as a count and playing the game of waiting for resources to amass to expand while simultaneously spending every inching moment looking for an opportunity. it's as though i need to speed things up but also slow them down.
>playing Britain - Barons, Hundreds, Wards and Wapentakes>choose random ruler button, get a somewhat weak petty King in Pictland with similarly weak and some strong neighbors next to me>Immediately subjugate the weak neighbors with mercenaries and expel the small hats to build a castle town in my backwater capital >the self-proclaimed 'King' of Cait (Northern-most parts of Pictland) who once had 4k troops thanks to his tribal vassals (Northern-most parts of Pictland) gets into a civil war with said vassals>declare war to subjugate his rebelling vassals, and then him too a year laterEasy. Now to subjugate the other false King and then I'll be able to properly declare myself King of the Picts.
>>1896627>>1896630why is CK2 AI so bad at managing money? what do they spend it all on?
>>18966711) AI builds random shit whenever it can afford2) AI is affected by character traits3) AI is incompetent in generalSo even if AI would have half-decent domain with favourable character traits, it would still struggle mightly. And most of AI characters are having shitty personality that makes them act even dumber.
>>1896671It's not the AI that's the issue - its the intentionally underdeveloped provinces in this mod that's the "problem". There are no buildings that are built in Pictland at all in this start date. The dev of the mod also lowered the levies of all buildings and holdings. That's why despite owning alot of baronies (counties), no one is making a lot of money nor possess a lot of troops.Look at Mercia - not at all nations are doing terrible with their finances. And I recall that the King of Srath waged a long war against Northumbria with a few others, that's why he's in debt.
I hate how you need 4 holy sites to reform pagan religion in HIP. Would consider going reformed slavic with Wends but that mean going all up there to Novograd or down to Alps.
>>1896723Can you show how holdings look in this mod? Can you build baronies in baronies? Are buildings normal? What about cities, like York or London?
>>1897185just change it to 3, the moral authority is usually the hard part anyway
>>1897223Can you do that when you already started game?
>>1897236Or you could just console command usurpation of one of the holy sites.
>>1897194All titles are downgraded in rank from vanilla (including icons). Emperors are Kings, Kings are Dukes, Earls, Lords or Counts, Counts are Barons or Thanes, and Barons are just barons, Lairds (pictish) or Pegns in Old English. Unfortunately the mod never got finished so there are no special buildings and there's only one wonder (which is an old pagan Stonehenge that has no bonuses) in England.>What about cities, like York or London They're in the mod of course, but like I said above, there are no specials buildings.
>>1897236Yeah shouldn't be a problem, it's in the defines somewhere iirc
Long live the King of Pictland! Just kidding, I'm about to die from dysentery. Oh well, at least I obtained the White Knight bloodline and formed the kingdom before my death.
>>1897501 (me)>By the end of the 7th century Fortriu had established a dominant position over most or all of the Picts, one of the most significant developments in the history of early medieval Pictland, described by historians as the Verturian Hegemony. The status of Fortriu as a powerful over-kingdom can be seen from the reign of Bridei son of Beli, who was the first king to be explicitly described as "King of Fortriu" in contemporary chronicles, and whose victory over Ecgfrith of Northumbria at the Battle of Dun Nechtain in 685 extended Fortriu's power southward, replacing Northumbrian rule north of the Forth>A series of campaigns between 731 and 741 saw this power extended further with the invasion and conquest of the Gaelic kingdom of Dál Riata, located in the area of modern-day Argyll. Onuist became the first Pictish king known to have invaded Northumbria and Strathclyde and may even have invaded Ireland, establishing a domination over northern Britain unmatched by any preceding king, that would not be rivalled again for another 150 years.Oh shit, I accidentally reenacted history (I started as Fortriu before forming Moray).
since generals are now allowed on /vst/, should we make this a general?if so we need a pastebin and such
best start for unifying Russia?
>>1899050Probably 936. It has strong, pagan Kievian Rus. Otherwise, 1066 has orthodox kingdom ruled by Izaslav, with most rus princess as tributaries. Meanwhile, 867 has Vikings and it's pretty easy to get the ball rolling as Dyre or Rurik.Or, if you really want to play as the historical unifier, pick the Mongols in the Mongols bookmark
"I would like to dive back into a run after a long break, but I can't stop thinking about all the flaws in the gameplay mechanics. Could someone give me a list of mods that would fix some of these issues?"
>>1899378who are you quoting
