Any ideas you'd like to see in the mod?
Why did dwarves spend 6,000 years fighting orcs only to lose at the end anyways meanwhile humans completely destroyed the Greentide in just 30 years? Are dwarves just retarded?
Dwarves are more "effeminate" tha humans.
>>1929806Humans had Satan on their side.
>>1929806dwarves were hikineets that refused to leave their hold more than once every hundred years so the orcs just killed them one-by-one. Humans actually touch grass so they could amass a large enough army to actually beat the orcs.
>>1929828They also spent a lot of time killing each other over millenia-long grudges.
TotalElfDeath
>>1927520The mission tree is old and short with bits of meaningless claims, meager devving bonuses, and a way to late (and also meager) colonizing modifiers typical of the ancient Cannorian mission trees. And you will spent most of the campaign playing as Beepeck anyway. The early game of juggling Lorent and Gawed with mercs for your clay is easily the most engaging part of it. Don't know if it got a rework in the newer updates though.
>>1929830t.battery
gonna give one of the new saar countries a try
>>1929804Can I get a qrd on this mod? How is it different (mechanically) from base eu4, aside from the new map obviously
>>1930007Magic, racial system including genocide and ethnic cleansing options, artificery, numerous mission trees with unique mechanics, etc etc
>>1930007It lets you play like 15 different dwarven tags.There's also some other content but I'm not sure I ever tried it.
>>1930007They added in a genocide feature
>>1930010>>1930012>>1930021Okay I'm sold
>grobpreubens kids when they hear the fantasy mod has genocide be like
>>1930026LE MINECHINNIVMS?????? DAE BIG GERMANY BAD
Why am I supposed to like Corin if I'm not a orc race mixing g fetishist, again? They keep acting like I'm supposed to and there should be a reason to support the "reformation"
>>1929804Less lore dumps and writing in general. More genocide flavor, not just racial but cultural and religious too. Also a better pop system solely for slavery. I think it would add a lot to roleplay.
>>1930117Agreed on slavery, I don't like that there's no distinction between free opressed minorities and slaves
>>1929804Reverse grombar. Crovis wins and finds out about troll-grip orc pussy. Heads further east to get more orc women. Nation continues being ruled by humans but with half orc military.
>one elector for the elves>one elector for the dwarves>one elector for the halflings>one elector for the mages (mostly elves)>one elector for the merchants (mostly dwarves and gnomes)>two electors for the nobles (mostly half-elves)We need an elector for the dovesworn gnolls to drive the point home that h*mans aren't welcome in Anbennar
>>1930123What about an elector for the Kobolds? Like the Winescale mod.
>>1930116You aren't supposed to. She is literally the reincarnation of Satan and tries to usurp the throne of Castellos after his (((death))).
>>1930123humans breed all of those thoexcept dwarves
>>1930123Gnolls are monsters and do not deserve an elector.
>>1929804I would like to see a jeet tag that isn't boring as fuck.
>>1930123>h*mans aren't welcome in Anbennarthen who will 300 year old elven sluts groom if not cute rich human shotas?
>>1930149gnoll is to a stuck up elf woman what dog is to a white woman
>>1930123I like the inclusion of the Dovesworn Gnolls as an example of Gnoll demonsterization that actually makes sense. Most Gnolls tags (Bar tluukt and that one scavenger tag without a mission tree) I doubt could ever demonsterize sensibly considering they're all about peddling drugs, slavery and mass human sacrifices to summon demons to this plane of existence to further global gnollisation.
Will Anbennar receive an EU5 version?
>>1930153The gnoll khet tag could easily demonsterize .
>>1930153cool it with the antisemitism
>>1930159True, forgot about those.>>1930160But I didn't mention the globogommo...?
>>1929846I think I saw on reddit the Kobold guy is reworking them next.
The (((international community))) isn't taking my very real demonsterization efforts seriously for some reason.
playing one of the nations with new missions and literally none of the green guys allies joined him when I attacked lol
I have a mod question. Is there any race Jaddar wouldn't fuck?
>>1930169Elves
>>1930169dwarves
>>1930169Harimari
>>1930164what's wrong with it? it's just cultural expression
>>1930178His uncle, on the other hand...
>>1930178>Chaddar wouldn't fuck a big fuzzy tiger girlThey'd be all over him too, since their men treat them like shit
>>1930178After what they did to his ancestors can you blame him?
>>1930169the robots from that island still in dev whose name i can't remember might be outside his monstergirl fetish
>>1930185Austria
Busilar winning over Eborthil is by far the biggest tragedy of the canon lore, Eborthil has so much more fun possible themes based on geography alone. Realistically the Isle of Tef is incapable of supporting the explosive population growth of the industrial era. I'd give the country themes and decissions around promoting emigration towards Eborthil's overseas terriroties (Busilar and Deshak) and its many island colonies. With the eventual endgoal of integrating and coring all these and forming a proper empire of the Islands. Maybe they'll build a bridge connecting the Isle of Tef with the Busilari mainland. Big Dishonored vibes all around.
>>1930190well now that would be interesting and so completely against what we're going for with Anbennar Vicky
>>1930192If i knew jackshit about modding i'd probably try my hand at a vic2 fan fork kinda deal. No way in hell am i ever touching vic3.
>>1929804Less femoids in my government.Rather...No femoids in my government or military.
>>1930194Pretty weird that the powerful mage trait comes built in with "can recruit female generals"
>>1930200I assume that's just so any ruler can be made into a War Wizard.The confusing thing for me is why a bunch of event text uses "them" to refer to the ruler when EU4 has a built-in function go get whether a character is "him" or "her." It feels very lazy.
>>1930200I assume it's because you wouldn't be able to warmage a Powerful Mage female ruler if that wasn't there?
>>1929812t.
>>1930222damnit for some reason the image didn't upload
>>1930224I wish I knew how to draw so i could make a kobold version of this meme.
>>1930244I made one for the previous thread (500 hours in MS paint)>>1928539
>>1930244I can't even imagine what a kobold spurdo would look like
>>1929804They should create an evil Harimari tag. Every other major race has one if not multiple except them.
>>1930290I'd be up for it. Would they have a gimmick? Some kind of evil raj?
>>1930292they eat other racesthrow some vampirism in with it maybe
>>1930292The way to go would be to exaggerate the worst traits of Harimari society, ie their extreme paternalism and hedonism. Make a nation where Harimari are not only at the top but where humans are seen as slaves and in some cases literal livestock, because they can't be trusted to take care of themselves.
>>1930224A half-orc corinite witch king and professor was teaching a class on Corin, known incarnation of Agrados."Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and worship Corin and accept she was the most blessed and strongest person the world has ever known, even stronger than Dookan!"At this moment, a brave, patriotic 29 year old strong chivalarous Adenican Knight who had served 5 years in the adenican army and understood the necessity of jousting and fully supported all military expenses made by the Adenic Kingdom stood up and held up a picture of Agrados, Corin's previous form."Is this Castellos' successor?"The arrogant professor smirked quite demonically and smugly replied:“Of course he is, you stupid inbred.""Wrong. If he (and therefore Corin) really are Castellos' heir, as you say... then why did Agrados create monsters?"The professor was visibly shaken, spat drops of crimson deluge (vile corinite beverage) and dropped his chalk and copy of Infernal Court Rituals, the real faith of all corinites. He stormed out of the room crying those monster tears.The students applauded and all swore their loyalty to the Adean that day and accepted Castellos' true heir as the most divine entity in the world. A beautiful horse galloped into the room and stood by the Adenic banner and shed a tear on the chalk. Oaths of Chivalry were recited several times, and the Silver Dragon himself showed up and blessed that year's crops across the country.The professor lost his tenure and was fired the next day. He died of infections from drinking blood and his corpse was tossed into hell to burn for all eternity. I tried but lore isn't well documented.
>>1930252In that case, here is an objectively superior version of your copypasta (fact checked by true dragon priests)
Technically orcs wouldn't be monsters since they aren't a byproduct of the rape of Halanna nor were any of those monsters used when Ducaniel created them.
do harimari have barbed cocks
Boring and low iq setting They just couldn’t resist doing Not!Europe and Not!Asia and Not!Africa and such could they? Would have required a bit too much brainpower lol
>>1930389>They just couldn’t resist doing Not!Europe and Not!Asia and Not!Africa and such could they? So literally every single fantasy setting to ever exist?
>>1930391All this tells me is that you haven’t read anything beyond generic mainstream stuff It’s not that hard to invent concepts that don’t line up perfectly with irl continents with a whole team at your disposable
>>1930392Of course, how could I forget "Settings that are solely one continent/culture or inspired by Tolkien"
>>1930394Have u tried not playing DnD
>>1930397Okay, give me an example of an original setting that could be transported to EU4 and still work
>>1930290>>1930305There's Rabaghekur into Vanrahar for the Harimari supremacist tag, but i don't think they go as hard on human oppresssion as that.
Just played the new Bhuvauri and Duwarkan, both are pretty good I had fun 8/10 nations and missions, would recommend, but now I'm a bit tired of the whole "accept everyone, redeem ourselves, we are so nice" thing and want something evil/progmatic neutral (aka evil). Any good nations you'd recommend that have mission trees from the last ~2 years?
>>1930505Masked Butcher
>>1930505Wyvernheart was fun enough.
wyvernheartblessed by the thane
>>1930123Honderaak is unironically the best tag in the mod for a comfy game of selling mercs and playing kingmaker. Gnoll unit pips + Cannor dev is a busted combo, but you're never so rich that you feel like you can relax>>1930153Various small gnoll tags without missions like Tziekal and
>>1930224Adeanites are the true chads of the setting tbqh
Are there Regent Court tags that go Cavalry besides Adenica and Great Ording? I was trying to think of examples and that's all that came to mind.
>>1930544I think Bennon/Havoral does but I don't remember how much of a bonus you get.
>>1930547Oh shit I forgot they're the home of (((Corin))) so you end up having to convert.
>>1930548Meh. There's Verne and Marrhold, but my understanding is they don't go full Cavalry but instead have a few Mythic Cavs to work with like Skewered Drake.
>mega Lorent>Gawed>Corvuria (Corinite)>giga EborthilThabks to these nations the regent court won the league war and now there are only 9 nations in the world eligible to be emperor lol
>>1930544Arbaran is heir to notScythians, but I think they are supposed to convert. Not 100% sure though
>>1929804Yeah how about the mod not running like complete shit, and reduce army sizes from their current ridiculous amount. Shit is beyond retarded.
>>1930591You probably could divide the numbers by 10 in both EU4 and Anbennar and they'd be way closer.
>>1930591>play in the EoA>average privince dev is 30>50 in the opms>get coalitioned if you take even 1 province>every single nation has atleast 15k troops with even the 3 province ones having 30k-50k>oh and everyone has 7 allies 2 of which are probably Lorent and some other nation with 100k troops
>>1930598What are you talking about the EoA is very easy to play in.Espionage first idea group + dissolution of EoA age bonus and go ham early, by the reformation you can eclipse any EoA nation and be close to Lorent and Gawed in army sizes even as an OPM.
>be me, Agrados>get jealous of my gigachad brother>try to usurp him, fail miserably and get banished to Hell for eternity>at least I raped Halanna hehehe>fast forward a few thousand years>things are not looking so well, worship of the Infernal Court is outlawed and there are almost no followers left>hmm what's this?>a priestess of mine had a child that was taken in as a squire by a knight?>lightbulb.jpg>wait until she inevitably dies due to stupid heroic antics>possess her corpse>"yeah umm Nerat totally said that I still have a job to do">start gathering a cult following>itshappening.gif>"die" in mutual combat against Korgus(I really could have 1shot him but it would make everyone too suspicious)>they actually proclaim Corin as Castellos' successor>mfw
>>1930631>they actually proclaim Corin as Castellos' successorYou're talking mad shit for someone in cavalry chargin' distance.
>>1930602unfortunately I suffer from a terminal condition known as "being stupid"
so I've heard Amldhirs mission tree is bad and I was wondering how would YOU (yes you reading this, I am talking about YOU) change it so that it becomes good?
Which tag forms Adenica, anyway?
>>1930717Any adventurer tag in Adenica's historical clay
>>1930717Any that owns Taranton/10 provinces in Western Escann can do it, so long as they haven't formed another tag, and are Regent Court, I believe.
I HATE NATIVE MECHANICSWTF DO YOU MEAN I CAN'T CORE IT NIGGA IT'S TRIBAL LAND SO I CAN'T CORE ANYWAYS AND EVEN IF I COULD I WOULD BE ABLE TO DO IT BECAUSE IT'S *DIRECTLY* CONNECTED WITH MY OTHER LAND AND MY CAPITALKILL NATIVESBEHEAD NATIVESGIVE NATIVES BLANKETS WITH SMALLPOX ON THEM
>>1929804I just recently started playing EU4 and my current run has fallen apart, sell me on this mod
>>1930735Also do I actually need all the DLC the steam page says I do or can you get away with ignoring a few and just missing out on a couple features
>>1930736Ah I just noticed it has a list of optionals as well so I guess that's a pretty good sign the things listed as mandatory are indeed mandatory
>>1930736dog what the fuck are you doingjust pirate that shit
>>1930398Not that guy, but Malazan Book of the Fallen? That's definitely not D&D based. Because it was his GURPS campaign.This said, the videogame for that already exists, and it's Dominions.
>>1930696it's not...bad, just flavorless since you are set in reforming Aul-Dwarov right off the bat
CASTELLOSISDEAD
>>1930765What proof do you have outside of an (((Elven))) mural?
bruh
>>1930853How did that happen?
>>1930862I have this mod installed https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3085697635&searchtext=libertyand I guess the event fired at the same time for all the vassals lol
>>1930853>The Command watching this occur in real time
it's so harimoverme and dhenijanraj have been stackwiped and now only Jadd can save us (he is 99% occupied)
>>1930165they tend to be easy as hell to kill as jadd or anyone because they inevitably get caught up in some shitfest war in their sarhal holdings that stops them from calling allies when I attack them
I am converting to the Jadd the moment I get the option
update: the collapse of the Raj event firedCommand and Jadd are gonna have a fun time this game
>>1930896what the shit is this UI
>>1930925Think it's GUIbennar.
>>1930896Why would you convert to the religion that explicitly bans slavery as the slave empire nation?
>>1930930you got a point there, I will convert the moment they add a clause that let's Harimari own slaves
kek
>Play as a gnoll >Your husband cucks you with someone named "Largest Sword" You can't make this shit up
did Asraport get approved yet?
>>1930967Sacrifice her and make Xhazob replace your Pseudo-penis with hers
>>1930967Reminds me of one time when i played as dwarves, i got a mushroom guy as an advisor, that then proceeded to fuck my wife.
>>1930986With a name like Bungus the Fungus, who wouldn't?
>>1930986She was so high on his hallucinogenic spores she thought he was you
What country do i play if I want all the races and to be a nice guy
>>1931121Azkare as long as you understand that Oni can't be classified as "people".
>>1931121the command, all races united for a singular purpose. some would claim jaddari fits, but they force people to worship satan at sabre point, and azkare genocide the oni so they're out.
>>1931121Isobelin, you basically fuck off to the new world and are basically fantasy new york complete with immigration and being a big melting pot
>>1931121I heard Stalbor's is a little like that, but I haven't given them a shot yet.
>>1931135does it also come with its gnomish secret tunnel, ruinborn migrant setting a random woman on fire, and orcish mysterymutt shoving people on to moving trains?
>>1931192no but they have gnoll (female) rape gangs which is why all the men walk funny
so what what mechanics in EU5 will be useful for the inevitable port?
>>1931283for me it's non-state orgs that are playable. I imagine some interesting things could be done here
>>1931283international organisations and situationsPOPs obviouslywhat >>1931287 saysworks of art will be useful for representing things like the dwarven supercrownwill eu5 anbennar start in 1444 or 1337?
>>1931287Adventurer bands acquiring a state a la escann or aelantir. dynamicallyAsra Bank to Asraport
>>1931283pops and economy by farthe mod already tried to simulate these better by hacking the systemSoPs will be very cool too
>>1931289having the greentide would be pretty fun
>>1931283they just showed off climate and terrain stuffhttps://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/tinto-talks-45-8th-of-january-2025.1725373/
>>1931303I think the greentide is what is ultimately gonna cuck the EU5 port.I can only imagine porting in a greentide would be a massive fucking pain, and would fuck with all the adventurer bands and greentide remnants.I suspect they will keep the start date at 1444 for the EU5 version.
the command is quivering in fear of my mighty 15k stack and had no choice but to acknowledge that I am a worthy rival
>>1931463You have vassals that bloat your dev on the great power rankings thoughever.
been thinking about Harimari lately and you know I can understand where the furries are coming from, big soft yet muscular tiger men are kinda hot when you think about it
The Taychend formable has such a boring mission tree. So many dev click missions and don't even get me started on the fully colonized requirements instead of just owning.
>>1931839i've never been able to get past the first few missions solely because Taychend as a whole is a tag that asks you to conquer a shitload of land whilst giving you fuckall to do any of it. Imagine The Command asked you to conquer all of Rahen as their first mission while giving you no Brown Orcs, no Army Quality, no CCR in Ideas and no Godlost. It wouldn't be fun, just tedious as shit
Which nationalities you think would be stereotyped as being extremely racist (á la Argentinians and South Africans) in modern day Anbennar?
>>1931874Dwarves of any flavour, really.Sun elves and harimari literally make racial caste systems with them at the top.Gawedi ('ate elves and halflings)Gnomes would go on and on about iq statistics.Various escann states would hate orcs and goblins, while a lot of non-jadd bulwari would hate gnolls.
>>1930721Its really unintuitive, i think you can take more if you directly border them and the province you sit in is your tribal land - so no squatting in their tribal land, play around with it a bit to see what works, use console for testing.
>>1931283Not happening, chuddie johan will only have white phenotypes represent advisors/pops so wholesome chungus anbennar dev team wont touch it.
>>1931961But then who will I use the genocide button on when making my glorious grossgermaniums???
>>1931931>Gnomes would go on and on about iq statistics.No they would claim that all races are equal and that you're a racist if you have something against orcs living in your neighborhood
>>1932009Publically, of course. In their insular communities with wires encircling them for some reason, they will insist that Gnomes are the most intelligent race and they will state that's why they deserve such an outsized influence in your government. You shouldn't dig into their sources for that, because it all stems back to, through a chain of incestuously cited papers, 65 fifteen-year-old gnomish boys scoring well on a quick test in 1970 and 57 monolingual gnomish children in 1959 scoring well on a síl Adencóst-Galvin Test.
>>1932033>gnomes advocate for racial equality while The Hierarchy is permanently closed to outsiders due to "the gnommocaust perpetrated by kobolds"
when you think about it being conquered by Grombar must be so fucking weird like just imagine some 7ft tall mountain of grey muscle arrives in your village and DEMANDS you cum balls deep in his sister with no protection every night
>>1932046oh nohow horrible
Well why the fuck can't I? They're there. They're literally fuckin there, right besides them. What is this bullshit?
started a game as the order of the ashen rose so I could play Rosande and man half of Escann is just livestock provinces this game with the other half being Iron and Naval Goods
>>1932109it's got to do with the Ynn riveryou have to spread from the crossings
>>1932109Let me enlighten you because you've never played in the Ynn. Those rivers ensure the provinces aren't connected so you'll have to grab the dam first.
>>1932111>>1932112I literally upgraded the dam to the max level.Can I also say just how bullshit coalitions are?>Declare war on country with coalition, knowing full well i'm gonna have to fight an entire continent>"Ooops sorry, you can't count them as cobelligerents because it's a coalition. Enjoy paying 40 warscore for an 3 dev province lol"
>>1932114a coalition forming is basically a fail state in EU4 unless you're just declaring immediately while they are still forming to truce juggle
>>1932115Except I can beat them. I can beat the entire fucking coalition. I am literally doing it as of that screenshot. But nope. I'm not allowed to do *jackshit* even though I won becauuse MUH HECKIN WARSCORE!!! YOU HAVE TO WAIT 100 YEARS FOR THEM TO LEAVE THE COALITION SO YOU CAN DECLARE WAR, THEN WAIT ANOTHER 100 BECAUSE THEY'LL IMMEDIATELY JOIN ANOTHER!!!
>>1932117just console annex shit dude it's not that deep
>>1932114>>1932117why didn't you just juggle the truces then
I hate mages so fucking much no single person should be this fucking overpowered
>>1932125You should enslave mages with black damestear.
>>1932125They are potential witch-kings and thus must be purged
>AI declares on enemy>just stands on uncolonized land as it is sieged downnice AI you got there Paradox>inb4 it's scaredit has 3 mil techs and 5k more troops
>>1932180I think it's a known bug that requires reloading the save or tag switch to fix. I definitely heard about unmoving AI before, but it never happened to me
God playing in Escann is so fucking painful I hate these mechanics so much
>>1932185I've had a couple cases, and yeah, usually just closing the game and reloading gets the AI moving again.
>Emperor decides to conduct a great magic spell the burn all the oxygen in Bulwar's seas>All it does is piss off some sea monsters and they send endless hordes at ALL of your coastlines
>mission changed my only province with a good trade good into one that is complete ass
>>1932208utterly vile #notmyemperor
>>1932208fake newsEmperor Lothane sil Wex (pbuh) is a pure blooded Alenic chad
>>1932289That's not THE Lothane.It's his great grandson. Get it right baka
I've not played dwarf in a while. Did they increase how often learnings of an elder fires this patch or have I just had a lucky run?
>>1932324I feel like it was always fairly common event, but maybe that's just me
>>1932324When I played Ovdal Tungr it fired the same as usual for me.
>>1932328>>1932331Its 1489. Its fired about 10 times in 45 years. It did it again a few minutes after I posted. Only thing I can think is its the government type having less events in general just means it auto goes for that one. Anyway Sortition is the way to go for Odval Tungr it seems.
>>1932337I did the standard thing with long lived races and went for faster reelections until I had a 6/6/6 and then when to sortition for a longer lifespan.
>bro go conquer X>here's like two lines of mediocre text as to whyI read the demographic survey from 2024 and I genuinely do not understand how Jaddari seems to be at the top of the pile again and again. It was decent back in the day, but nowadays it's simplistic and not very interesting - it's just basic bitch hyperblob.Is it all just harpy waifu enjoyers or nostalgia?
>>1932370but..... muh wholesum every race accepted country???
>>1932370Bro your multiculturalismrino? Your monster girl sex lol xd?
>>1932370BD making the top 10 is enough for you to throw the whole thing away, even the mt devs think 90% of the survey responders are complete retards, that should tell you enough
>>1932370How dare you insult the prophet (pbuh)
>>1932370Almost all the tags on the top 10 list are blobbers.
>>1932370it's the best tag for WC and EU4 is a WC-pursuing game
>>1932370What are yours top 10 then?
>>1932400its not even the best WC pursuing tag in Bulwar
for me it's the anti-world conquest tag of Roadwarrior
>>1932370It's a pretty unique brew ripe for memery. A parody of Mohammed (already rare for obvious reasons) and the rise of Islam with the Mughal assimilation system and other WC centric features and monster girl sex added on top. It's no surprise it has remained popular, it appeals both mechanically and flavor wise. It's probably not the best, but it's got the widest appeal
>>1932391this, BD is ass cancer to play and I can't imagine a sane person ever saying "yes playing BD and manually managing your eight retards, state by state is a fun mechanic"
>>1932423Yes managing the disciples is pure shit but at least BD has cool flavor.
Are you supposed to play the redscales over the blue scales? Feels like every game I do as blue scales I can win all the opening wars and unite the kobold tribes but then I start dragging behind as Gawed and Lorent both scale far faster than I can.
>>1932443I think that's the intention, with Redscales being the one listed on the country recommendations, but you should be able to do either. I think Red has the advantage with their leader and position to immediately take the Pass, blue can defend in the caverns and all, but being aggressive early is probably the better play.
>>1932445Yeah I figured. The other big advantage I see in the red is their Center of Trade starts at level 2 despite being only 7 dev rather than being downgraded to 1 when you conquer it as bluescales. So their economy is likely better too. Plus their NIs seem a bit stronger for the position you're in
How different is cestimark from Isobelin? I just did a game as fantasy new york but I was told Cestimark deals with cryptids which intrigues me. But don't want to play the exact same game back to back with a different map color
>>1932452Cestirmark is allowed to blob without being cucked by government capacity and changes their name to the Trollsbay union. You also get the SCP site.
What's the deal with the Leechdens?is there a formable (or native nation I guess) in there with a cool MT
>>1932443You need to be aggressive in the early game as kobold because your enemies are blatantly better than you in every single way. When Gawed annexes Westmoors you're getting invaded next. You should, ideally, try to annex mainland Nimscodd as soon as possible. In my playthrough they went to war with Greenscale so I took their mainland while their armies were away.Once you have the mainland, you can do the Malliathalxa trap to obliterate their armies, just be sure to put traps there.
>>1932510There used to be a tag there but they deleted it. All that's left nearby is a shitty mushroom man one.
>try kobold>war wizard plus cannons easily clears fort with maxed trap
>>1932524Kobold pro tip: Don't fight against war wizards
>>1932532That was Gawed attacking me with some allies. I wish for total mage death
>>1932524Getting a good kobold start is still rng but far less than before
>>1932510the region has a cool concept, there are mutated leech-like elves there that worship a big leech in the bottom of the swamp, giving it sacrifices so it doesnt wake up and eat the worldthere used to be like 4 leechman tags, but they were removed by jay. a guy that was planning a mt for them ended up making it as a submod that re-adds the tags and gives them a big mt about sacrificing thousands to the big leechthere is also i think one colonial spawnable, chivalry themed adventurers
>>1932638>removes leechmen tags>proceeds to abandon the mod to the point half elf majorities and cultures are added in, something he said would never happenKWAB
Very proud of the MT devs for still trying even though the whole mod has peaked with The Command. Even with years of more devtime, they will still never make anything better, considering it still gets more updates than 95% of tags.Based and Halessgenocidepilled
>>1932639he doesnt give a fuck about the mod anymore, the only thing he cares about is his book, which is probably never releasing, and the only stuff he does for the mod is random lore blurbs supposedly relevant to the book
What CPU do you need to run this with ALL regions turned on?
>>1932668I hope the book comes out because it'll be cringekino.>derivative fantasy take on Euro history written by an ESL, with the totally not self insert character Camir Silmuna
>>1932710lemme check what I got... AMD ryzen 5 3600X is enough apparently with only slight slowdown in the late game (this is coming from a guy who has mostly played Stellaris btw so keep in mind my definition of slow might wildly differ from yours)
>>1932710I still try to play this shit on my potato laptop, takes half an hour to boot up the game
>>1931874Star Elves/Aelnar for obvious reasons.Most Harimari tags have a strong caste system in place.The not-confederate tag in the Trollsbay really love their plantations and slaves.Almost every tag in the Serpentspine (only exceptions being the Peridot Dwarves and the Cave Troll tag)All of the Sun Elf tags, for caste-related reasons.Dartax is a Bulwari-supremacist tag, though they can choose to tolerate the monstrous races native to Bulwar.Frozenmaw/Grombar are a literal apartheid state if they go the orc supremacy route.The full-mil Lake Fed tag used to get missions instructing them to kill every single centaur pop in the entire world, not sure if they still do.
>>1932720>The not-confederate tag in the Trollsbay really love their plantations and slaves.Is that the Verne spawn one?
this is the first time I've ever seen an AI sell a province
>>1932774I think it has to be the right combination of the country being broke and the leader having greedy trait or something
How many did you think it took to carry him away?
>>1932774why does your province ui look like that why would you do this
>>1932820the local harpies have been breeding with trolls for ages so one big one
>>1932820Imagine if harpy shagged a dragon
>>1932916at this point I'm used to it than the vanilla province UI
>>1932710The important thing is to disable the create states notification, for whatever reason it causes massive amounts of lag. After doing that late-game slowdown basically completely stopped for me with a Ryzen 7 3700x.
holy shit Company of Duran Blueshield actually won against Shattered Crown, this has to be the rarest occurence I've ever seen because I swear Shattered Crown just dominates every game in the Serpentspine
>yeah but doesn't getting kidnapped by harpies force you to be essentially their slave-
I swear if I get another "magical experiments gone wrong" event I will personally strangle every fucking mage in my country with their own intestines. God bless the Gnomes for inventing a way of getting rid of these parasites
Wex must rule!
>>1933016>Mages will be mages
>>1932991Shattered crown is weak if they get focused down before they can consolidate the holds and tech up. Normally the ai just bumbles around and by the time they fight shattered crown it's too late.
>>1933035elf cucks seethe at based Wexchads
Lothane was so merciful that he allowed the Silmunas to escape to Escann.
Anbenncóst wasn't sacked enough
>>1932720I wonder what happened to the Star Elves post-Aelnar's collapse. Did some of them went back to Cannor? Did they get massacred in retaliation by the humans and the ruinborns?
>>1933286Probably fled to Ibevar/Bulwar.
>>1933286probably died, better to die standing than live kneeling to animals
>>1933286IIRC, most of them died in Rianvisa, and they had ridiculously low numbers to begin with. Moon elves in Cannor number in low thousands and even their "majority" provinces are only inhabited by few hundred elves.
>>1933302>Moon elves in Cannor number in low thousands and even their "majority" provinces are only inhabited by few hundred elves.This is retarded, shit, Moonhaven can field just as large armies as the rest of Cannor, same thing for IbevarIs every single Elven society WOLLT IHR DEN TOTALEN KRIEG-level of total mobilization?Whose idea was this?
>>1933286Isn't there a rump state Aelnar still existing by Vicky 3's time? They're probably still there.
anyone happen to have a link to a hq version of the Hero's Gate loading screen without the borders?anyone go the original dwarven terrain images?
I hope I'll still be alive when the Black Castanor MT finally drops (~late 2040s)
>>1933311EU4 does not have a population system (DO NOT look up MEIOU&T) so it's kind of hard to do actual racial numbers>>1933016>God bless the Gnomes for inventing a way of getting rid of these parasitesyou do realize Artificery is just commodised magic?
>>1932391>BDBlack Demesne? I thought it was supposed to be the special Lich Lord tag, no? I was thinking of playing it since I wanted to go full Necromancer King at least once.
>>1933338just look at the game files
>>1933462half it's mechanics are antithetical to Lich rulers funnily enough, the flavor of the tag is good, but to do the mt you have to use the acolytes, which I can't recommend outside of meme shit like instant annexation Black Invasion. Generally speaking, you're just never gonna have a stable country because Acolytes fucking suck
>>1933487>half it's mechanics are antithetical to Lich rulers funnily enoughI suppose, but isn't that better than just becoming a lich on a random-ass nation that doesn't really have any flavors or missions for it just because you lucked out on a mage bastard heir event?
>>1933491For sure, and to be honest, I plain and simple don't recommend playing BD without a Lich ruler, you're just cucking yourself. Just be prepared to run headfirst into the absolute dogshit that is the Acolyte Management System
>>1933495As if most of EU4 isn't dealing with bullshit. At least as a lich, you don't have to give a rat's ass about diplomacy or trucebreaking or AE because literally everyone will already hate you anyway, right?
>>1933500I mean, yeah? I said I recommend playing as a Lich, BD succession system is fucking dogshit, literally 90% of the actual in-game content the tag has is abysmal dogshit, that's all i'm saying. No shit you shouldn't give a fuck about diplomacy or AE, you shouldn't as literally any wide tag.
>>1933502>you shouldn't as literally any wide tag.As much as I wish, coalition wars suck because even if you win them you can't annex shit due to warscore. And if you just trucebreak your stability gets fucked and you're hit with one bazillion rebels.
>>1933485I know about that but the gate image has borders and the terrain images are all small, I'm looking for the full size clean stuff
>>1933338You'll have to check the 'cord
>>1932166you censored the cock but not the balls?
trying gnomeshow does the 'reconquer kobolds in five years or lose respect' mechanic work? Do I just need to break truces and gobble up the kobolds in literally four years or gawed is going to unga bunga me?
>>1933710Bro kobolds have literally the worst fucking units in the game and barely even any dev, how can you *not* conquer them? I say this as a kobold fan.
>>1933710>reconquer kobolds in five years or lose respectI have never heard of this. And if you can't conquer the kobolds in a single war you're actually dogshit.
>>1933710Is it 'The Ticking Clock' event at the start? That's just there so Gawed doesn't day1dec you and stomp you. There's no mechanic past that initial truce. You either placate Gawed or you buddy up with Lorent, regardless of how much kobold land you take.
>>1933721thank>>1933711well you can't do it in one war unless there's some mechanic I don't know
>>1933731The newest update that reworked the kobolds adjusted some of the provinces in the Dragon Coast, so that might be why.
>>1933731Rush the greenscales before G*wed gobbles them up.I usually take them before i declare on the reds.
>>1932125
Total Elven Victory.
>>1933766The true elves remained in Aelantir instead of fleeing.
>>1933737thankthat was my first instinct too. Trying to leave north coast of reds for war two since that one doesn't impact my missions, I think.
>>1933770Those mutated batteries are not elves.
>>1933766Preferred Rianvisa path? For me it's Dahvar, "Every Star Elf is a God" religion beats "gay five year plan" religion every time
it looks like a dragonthemed???????
I wish there were custom demonsterzation events. It's such an intriguing concept. Like for Kobildzan, they were literally cave dwelling stone chuckers living in stone age tier tribes. But then they're trying to turn into a proper civilization, advancing in tech, building an colonial empire, having proper cities and farms (an entire mission is about switching to fungus for food instead of relying on fish catching like a primitive)Like, can you just imagine a bunch of Kobolds trying to wear fancy early 16th-17th century clothing, trying to talk to other countries about how they're totally a real civilized people now? Them having to actually build a state instead of glorified tribes from nothing? I mean, how does the Trivu system end? It's a bit hard to have things like inheritance and property when your society works off collectivist tribes where everyone raises each other. And what about gnomes and humans? One of the missions literally requires you to have an accepted human culture, so obviously they must be part of this new Kobildzan too, but how does that work?All those interesting questions...but all i get is the same choice that nerfs my military repeating every five years.
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never demonsterized in my life, seems retarded anyway, both in a lore sense (why do I give a shit about what a different species considers to be "civilized",) and in a mechanical sense (I lose my cool cb)
>>1933968It only makes sense in slowass games where you aren't fuckoff strong enough to survive having no allies. Which is a pretty uncommon way to play for monstrous nations
>>1933959say that on the discord
>>1933972Having done a few Maghargma runs recently there's a mission that requires you to have 5 diplo rep to consolidate your vassals in the southern area of the valley, I've been demonsterizing there since you can only get up to 3 or 4 in a timely manner without getting an event or needing an advisor while still being monstrous, also since you just get claims on all of Haless, Cannor and Bulwar towards the end of their mission tree having the monster CB is rather pointless.
>>1933968reduces institution spread
>>1932423>>1932429I want a submod that cuts out the disciples so much.
>>1933968A lot of mission trees either outright list demonsterization as a requirement or require you to do specific diplomacy with some other nations which functionally demands demonsterization.
>>1933959It'd be nice if it got a bit of a touch-up, like artificery did. Being able to make more decisions and weigh the costs and benefits would make for something more interesting than just playing the event roulette. Hell, you could probably even steal the same setup for artificers: just have a submenu where you can apply different privileges to the monstrous tribes estate, representing things like becoming a patron of "civilized" artists or introducing foreign elements into your military.
>>1934053Does it matter? Most monsters are either very close to usual spawn sites or are going to conquer civilized lands very quickly. I only had institution problems twice: once when playing in the furthest corner of Aelantir (no monsters there) and second time with early game old Mire Maw (you can't demonsterize that early anyway).
how do you unlock anby in the game?
>>1934164by going back to /gsg/ or assimilating with the rest of /vst/
>Kobildzan has mission that requires you to own 50%+ trade power in Sella>COLONIES DON'T FUCKING COUNT TOWARDS THIS FOR SOME REASON>mfw I am stuck at 46% trade power and literally unable to get any morelol. lmao.
>>1934348You can get more though
>>1934362Not without my colony gobbling it up
Also, does anyone know how to get the 12th 'aspect'? It's just damn impossible. I have done just about every damn mission I could but there's no option. The festival doesn't *give you* an option to unlock another aspect - it says "This aspect must be upgraded through a mission", but yet mission-unlocked aspectys don't count for this
>>1934365dec on your colony and don't core the land
>>1934365Don't colonies have a "Give Trade Power" thing on the Subjects tab?
>>1934387Vassals do, but colonies should be giving 50% by default. I just threw a bunch of trade ships over to the needed spots for those missions.>>1934381Which ones do you have already? It should be the same as all the other basic ones: spend 50 to switch the dragon, then 100 to unlock a new one through the festival. Stuff like brown, brass, black, gold, all of those can be grabbed whenever. If it's talking about upgrading, then you'll need to change to a different dragon first.
>>1934348>>1934365spam the shit out of light ships and send them there
Oni and their devouring path are the good guys of Haless
Back in my day we used to call them lefthand paath
Having to rely heavily on ai in this game always reminds me of that "Why can't you just be normal!" meme. You cunts have the entirety of Northern Bulwar. How did you do this?
>>1934917Are you finding the boat dwarfs fun?
Boy, this is not gonna be pretty to see.
>>1934917I played them a couple weeks ago and it's because they're overextended. You're feed them so much land that they don't have the adm points left to state anything so they aren't getting tax/production income and you're eating all the trade. By the time I fed them Kheterata and Busilar they were 6 adm techs behind. Add in general ai shenanigans and it's no wonder they're in debt though mine never got to your extent so early.
>>1934929its pretty fun, you're meant to take very little land yourself and just dev sky high, but you get claims for the always loyal diplo vassal you get in the first few years across the Diven, you can also spread usury and copper diving suits around the place. Where it falls down is this >>1934942 your essentially overfeeding Crathanor to a ridiculous degree and it spazzes out.
>>1934917>>1934951Do you need to give everything to Crathanor? There are no other special vassals?
wait it's called devouring path now?
>>1934941Watching Lorent implode is always fun. One of my favorite runs had them get a Witch King on the throne, go nuts with expansion and AE, have all of Cannor rise up in a war against them, and the entire country wound up decimated and splitting into a dozen different pieces.
>>1934941AI command would've no diffed that desu
>>1934977Nope. You get a bonus to countries accepting trade protectorate but both countries are essentially treated as sister republics. If you complete an OT mission it generally also auto completes a Crathanor one and I assume vice versa. Its a bit like an updated version of the Seg-Aska relationship.
>>1935255yes and it's peak
>>1935255yes and instead of evil kino it's le justified
Currently have the option to form Hul-az-Krakazol, Gronstunad or Verkal Dromak - which one's a good campaign to do first? I've heard good things about all three.
>>1935449verkal dromak is a meme campaign
which tag is most suitable for a lana del rey stan?
>>1929804sww this thread, thought "i want this elf lady to use my face as her personal chair/footstool", got into anbennar, am now REALLY into anbennar.give recommended factions. heard good things about black demense and the command.
>>1935512BD is actually a pain in the ass, you get a bunch of the most annoying to manage vassal type in the game. I've been enjoying the new Masked Butcher tree, myself
>form esthil>waiting for lich events to fire off>varina dies
>>1935512The Command is misleadingly complex, if you do play it, try to not build anything outside of the Shamakhad region, and build a shitload of forts on it as well, have fun either way, its a really good mt
>>1935576don't listen to this guy you should absolutely improve and fortify your land outside Shamakhad
More AI slop
>>1935585why are you posting stuff from the submod channel and pretending it's from the main mod you fucking shit-stirring retard
>>1935588ChatGPT, generate me an inside-view of a dwarven intestine.
>>1935557Look at this dude
>>1935591I've always wanted to know what Sauron's ring looked like
NO MATTER WHAT I DO I CAN'T BEAT THE COMMANDIT'S IMPOSSIBLE NO MATTER WHATI'VE TRIED DIFFERENT NATIONSI'VE TRIED DIFFERENT IDEASIT'S USELESSIT'S ALL USELESS
>>1935615Did they get buffed in this update or something? I remember managing to beat them as Balrijin in the past. They were a pain in the ass, but they weren't invincible.
*blocks your path*
>>1935615I fucking love the command, ultimate filter
Can I see patchnotes anywhere? I'm curious what's been adjusted since I last played. I heard people saying the gay lgbt island they were adding was going to fuck up performance, what happened with that?
>>1935629The Fires of Conviction one is here:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OFRLvykfwL4G1rI-QqZSnxWSb0-CGW0DuYmymnR15o8/
>>1935631Thanks. I see there is new stuff for some of the deep forest tribes, my last game was as the Emerald Orcs so that's interesting. Also stuff with the Jade Dwarves sounds interesting, I had wanted to try and make that work back when it wasn't really feasible.How is Masked Butcher? They used to be in the best position to form the Bulwari Orcs, even though when I last played the whole tree seemed woefully out of date.
i haven't played much (aside from the masked butcher below) in the last update or two. what are some fun MTs made in the last year?>>1935636>How is Masked Butcher?they have a pretty cool narrative-based MT. i won't spoil much but tl;dr is you are the horror that lurks in the night
>>1935615do what another Anon suggested - play Dhugajir and stomp them beneath hoof, your cav bonuses get ridiculous
>>1935680elephants don't have hooves
>>1935692I had a brainfart
>bottom level of Hul-Jorkad, 8000BA
>>1935677I enjoyed the Maghargma rework but it's not finished yet due to no Insyaa. Gameplay wise you get lots of claims and your unique vassal type doesn't take a diplo slot, and the lore of uniting all the ogres is interesting. Only problem is you have to move fast to finish your missions and the Lake Fed can screw you if you make them vassals.
why isn't there an orc tag larping about how they're the heirs to the precursors
my favourite tag might be agubabagubafelt they jumped the shark when they revealed anby was secretly ruling everything from behind the scenes tho
>>1935789>the lore of uniting all the ogres is interestingHow? Oni and Shreks argue about superiority of sake over whisky?>>1935804They don't know it. It's also very, very ancient history they have little connection to. I think Shattered Crown touches that stuff anyway, but it isn't canon, or maybe it has been reworked
>>1935812Essentially. There's some events talking about the religious differences between the soulseekers and devouring path ogres compared to the fathides/mossmouths, there's an event about some ancient ogres transmuted into statues. It's not a reading heavy tag by any means but there was enough for me to enjoy at least.
>>1935899My favourite part is when they turn the Sandmaws into fucking plates in order to honour their transformed corpses. Ogre unit models are in development as a side note.
One of Maghargma's missions gives you a new heir that supposed to be the daughter of your starting heir, but when I got it my starting heir was 12 and his daughter was 18
>>1935940troll models look goofier. and what's their content like regarding trolls?
Khugra has a bad mission tree that asks you to do too many things. And the colonization stuff on random islands and aelantir the tree asks you to do is kinda worthless since you get way more value out of conquering the halfling island instead.
>>1935953Yeah, the original leader invariably dies about five years into the game, because he starts as a general.
>>1935615>play the red raj>take your mission to vassalize khadiraspur>declare reconquest CB right at the start of the sir revolt>occupy all three warcamps asap>command is now dead within 10-15 years of gamestartgg
>>1936043the command also explodes if you take their capital in the first couple years
>>1935953A few times I've taken that one and she's died before Ziltagh who either dies in the first month or lives for thirty years, it sucks because if she's your ruler you get an event that gives you 2 free stability and some prestige.
Haven't subscribed to EU4 in about 6 months. Did they add any new countries to the Steam version?
>>1935619this was a really easy disaster. you just have to beat 2 waves and kill enough of them in the third wave and it's over.
>>1935615>>1935615Just like the Ottomans, either attack them early while they're still relatively weak or aim for a very specific midgame power spike where e.g. you dev up an institution and hit mil tech 12 while they're still at 10 with old institutions. If you wait long enough for them to reach midgame tech parity and blob over a third of Haless then it's way too late.
what's a lizardman country to try
>>1936125the one with a mission tree
>>1936093Cave Harimari and Cave Trolls now have their own tagsseveral nations got missions and a lot of them had their missions updated
>>1936127is there literally only one? I thought I saw a couple when clicking across them
>>1936130Yeah Khugra is the only one with a mission tree it even says so on the main menu screen
>When the tinyass minor you need to eat first before you can do anything else on your tree allies with your biggest immediate rival before the first month even ticks and you have to restartGoddamnit Hubao, why can't you just die quietly. Every restart takes me several minutes on this old piece of shit
>>1935811go back
Officially my favourite run ever
>>1936213>delving deeply and greedilysurely nothing can go wrong
>>1936223I don't think anything actually can go wrong if you're out of the Serpentspine can it?
>>1936228it can explode
Can anybody who plays on a shit pc confirm just how bad does the load time goes on the latest version of Anbennar? Last time i tried updating was the Sarhal release and it took 20+ minutes for the thing to load that i immediately rolled back to the previous version.
>>1936228Also got this event as the Nephrite Dwarves, you will run out of damestear eventually which absolutely sucked for me since I had that mission that requires you to have 8000 ducats and I had the diamond district buff already.
>>1932760No, that's the American military. The not-Confederates are Marlliande. There's also a submod that gives them all mission trees.
>>1932720> kill every single centaur pop in the entire worldIs there even a single centaur outside of the plains?
>>1936290Sometimes onea the OPMs fucks off into the serpentspine?
>>1936290In Akales, I believe. There might be another directly in the pass province
>>1935976The later models for trolls when they get some armour and a cannon actually look pretty sick.
Need a submod with a human nation whose mission tree revolves around muttifying the world's elves.
>>1936290Pops can migrate to other countries.
>>1936362fair elf maidens were constructed for BHCthis is canon
Which dev tranny do you guys think is the most rapeable? No real females allowed. I'm thinking Astera
>>1936441Maybe you should stick to discord you disgusting troon
>>1936456>playing a tranny mod>calling other people trannies for discussing the tranny mod tranny dev team
>>1936457Are you posting this just so your discord buddies can have a circlejerk sesh about le ebil 4chins thread?
>>1936459no, I just don't think it makes sense to call people troons for discussing the dev team, like evidently you are also aware of the dev team, that makes you a troon nigger too right
>>1936290There aren't really any centaurs majorities outside of the plains, but the minorities usually start fleeing to other countries once you begin purging them.
>>1936457go back to the TNO thread man
>>1936456They love bringing their discord wars here for some reason.
>>1936530they come to the thread after some retarded drama happens expecting to find the evil chuds agreeing with their enemies so they can post the screenshot and say "see the 4channers agree with you that means you are a nazi"when they see no one cares, they try to post bait so people start talking about it, but they are terrible at it
Okay, bros.. I just realized Fires of Conviction was released. Is this shit worth re-subscribing for like $6? Is there enough content in the new tags/reworks to last a month?
>>1936560Why aren't you just pirating the dlc?
>>1936240Yeah the loading times are ass i have a pretty good build too
>>1936565I have a strong moral compass?
>>1936560>>1936574Good goy.
>>1936565>>1936574The real question is why he didn't get the ultimate edition when it was just on sale for dirt cheap
>>1936565>>1936584Okay, I bought 3 months worth for $15 and loaded up Ovdal Tungr because le dorfs, and I checked the Mission Tree, and WHAT THE FUCK? It's small as shit.>But wait, it must expand, right?The last Mission requires 1000 ducat income... it's got to be the final Mission in the entire tree.Is Ovdal Tungr just a disappointment, or is the entire Fires of Conviction like this?
>>1929804now THIS is a girlboss I can get behind
>>1936550what part of a tranny rape meme agrees with any kind of discord drama
>>1929804Yes, Venail get's a mission tree option.CONQUER THE MAINLAND OR COLONIAL.
>>1935983I wanted to play this one as the first Lizards with an MT, but I agree, the mission tree looked really uninteresting.
>>1935983I gave up once I realised I had lengthy truces with all but one of the larger countries that hems you in, and the one country you don't already starts in a losing war against 2 other countries so you can't take much there anyway.
>>1936785>>1936764What's the best Fires of Conviction MT?
>>1936796Ovdal Tungr, Wyvernheart and Kobold rework are all fun. So is Ameion but that didn't change as much as the Kobold rework did. If I had to pick one, Ovdal Tungr is one of the more unique mission trees in the mod mechanically and having two mission trees to complete was a lot of fun.
>>1936799>So is Ameion but that didn't changeWhat's different now?
>>1936801The early-game mission tree was made nigh impossible after a rework of provinces and nations in the Taychend. The only way to get it done in any reasonable amount of time was declaring consecutive wars on the entirety of the region or you'd get smashed by a coalition. They fixed that. There was also a lot of janky shit relating to Larankar getting a bunch of free stuff and that is gone with Larankar now naturally conquering the rest of the Taychend. Overall improved, the flow isn't too different though. I believe additional stuff was added for the civil war tag but I think it's not done yet, I didn't check it out.
>Grombar is dead>Orcs almost completly wiped out in Escann>Blackbeard Cartel took over Ovdal Lodhum
>>1933968Try annexing a vassal with -100
>>1934917Because he cant core all that shit or he constantly has rebels pop so he raises autonomy every time, you gotta build a courthouse in every province of his if you want him to do anything.
>>1936823Dartax killed most goblins, nice>>1936830Bothersome, but perfectly doable. Diplo or Influence might be required. Real pain is trying to annex a vassal as a Witch King
>>1936830It's doable. I've done it with the ogres. It's a pain in the ass, but you can get +200 Improved Rep on vassals and you only need the 190+ to START annexing. You need to wait until the forced vassal and the aggressive expansion have worn off, but you can get rid of a bunch of that in the ten years before you can annex, and bump up your rep with them by feeding them their neighbours.
>dig_11:0 "Dig Level 11: Abyssal Hold">desc_dig_11:0 "This hold is the deepest one can possibly go. Strange rumours and occurrence happen at the deepest levels of the hold, for it is said that the line between the material plane and the infernal, also known as the abyss, is so very thin here."I've never dug this deep and this greedily before. I got to level 10 hold and its decided I can't go any further. But I thought there were 11 levels so is that a special one you can only get with the Obsidian legion or something?
>>1936977I remember getting a level 11 hold with some dwarven tags, but i can't remember which.You can only get it for your capital, from what i recall.
>>1936977minecraft momentI discovered creepers earlier today
>>1936984>dwarven tags, but i can't remember whichiirc you can reach 11 in amhildr and maybe gronstunnad
>>1935585>>1935591Stop being a retarded nigger.>before ai we relied on random art poached without context for our mods so you would have a random hodge-podge of artwork from popular media to some guys deviant art page>now we can use ai to generate a consistent style so long as a code monkey is willing to put in the timeOf course normal art would be better but I'll take ai generation of what we had before. With that said, do we even know if it's fucking ai and if it's hard to tell and not obvious who fucking cares. This is a mod not a developer published game that we pay money for.
>>1937107>SAAAAAR do not besmirch the artificials intelligences SAAARRwhen you guys try getting into my country on H1B visas to work bullshit jobs for 30k a year and molest women I will go to each and every one of your workplaces and shoot you
Rahen superpower 2020
Random thing but what are your ideas for random tags in general? No matter how schizo can they beI can think about a Drow-esque tag by that hold orcs came (inbred Ducaniel followers or some shit like that)Also some sunrise elf adventurers on fucking ardmya wanting their own ethnostate too (like they pop up if Azkare got fucked by that initial rebelion then are eaten by other tag later on)
Why is the kobold mission go out an conquer loads of stuff? The kobold ideas and trap system seem to implying culturally they're all about digging in, just feels super at odds with what they actually get up to
>>1937180orcs larping about how they wuz precursors n shiet
>>1937182I think they idea is that they go through a big shift, starting out as the "Tucker's kobolds" type with a heavy emphasis on defense, but as they get further into artificery and their colonial ventures grow, they move into more of a global empire. They don't have to huddle in caverns for defense anymore. The traps change to reflect that from one mission, changing from fort defense to trade bonuses.
>>1937180I need a Thought tag that actually tries to Harmonize shit. In base game, though difficult, you can harmonize every religion group as long as you nab the jews and zoro, and besides those two, nothing is even really out of your way. You just get them as you go. Here the Gnomes are grabbing like four tops with the natural progression of their tree, any more and you're doing random no CB shit into obscure parts of the world to grab 20 dev's worth of provinces. If that's going to be how it is, there should be a tag specifically for that case. Make a new The Thought spawnable that gets claims on a little bit of everywhere, hell, let them spawn in shit like black doctrine just to harmonize
Lorent worth a play?
>>1937368I think most minors around them are more interesting. But you can get cool elven crown as Lorent
>>1937393Lencori minors can form Lorent too, so more MT that way.
>107>responds with low quality memesApe
"Going into the jungle!"
There should be monkey people in anbennar desu>inb4 sarhali already exist
>>1937558monkey people are noble chinks, not vile sarhali
Which tag is the biggest WE WUZ?
>>1937601Toranen (?). Chessboard flag in the marches of Anbennar, obsessed with proving they are true Rolisardi knights
>>1937601Technically, all of the dwarven reclamation adventurers (except the Asra) are just a bunch of cultureless diaspora settling on abandoned cities and then starts larping as a caricature of the people that used to live there thousands of years ago.
>>1937601kumarkand has a pretty neat start where you have to prepare a rebellion against varamhar and after a while you need to find a further cause to rally all of the humans living in your area. As a result, they search for whatever fits and decide to "revive" an ancient empire because we wuz kangz n shiet
>>1937646How's Asra different?
>>1937655Khugdihr as a hold fell farily recently, so a lot of the original inhabitants are still around to settle it by the start date.
>>1937558Humans are already in the setting.
>>1937206pretty sure the guy who did kobildzan wants to rework the hierarchy tree to do basically this
>>1937604Everyone knows Toarnen is true heir to Roilsard legacy.How many halflings YOUR ancestors were tall?
>>1937670Right, and Asra bank originates from that place. Makes sense
>>1937601aelnar
on the one hand i want a celmaldor mission treeon the other hand it'll probably be some faggot shit and i enjoy playing celmaldor without one
>>1937673Alright, I gotta play this tag. Has that Hul-az-Krakazol energy.
>>1937180An orc tag that burrows fuck deep into hul-jorkad and discovers the truth about their kind
>>1937712>discover they were created by the elves>start we wuzzing that they were elves that were twisted by dookan into orcs>mission tree becomes about taking over Aelantir and strategically breeding orcs and elves until their descendants have become proper elves again
>>1937180dorfs that aren't racist
hey anons im new to the mod, what do you do when a province gets the "adventurers wanted" modifier? how to i "send" adventurers in?
>>1937758You just wait. The adventurers will show up sooner or later to deal with it. You can make them show up sooner by using estate privileges. Think "generous quest rewards" makes them faster for all types, and there's privileges focused on certain problems, like undead or bandits.
>>1937761ah i see thanks
>>1937758You just ignore it since it'll solve itself.
>>1937672That would be nice, Hierarchy's current tree is one of the most generic and uninspired in the mod. But it's been there so long that I worry a rework would just halfass it to not upset the skeleton it already has set. I guess we'll see, but I hope it turns out well
>>1937180>You take the dwarf tag that cuts down the magical forest>You place their subsidiary on southern aelantir>Nuke that stupid fucking jungle that constantly spawns rebels, eats colonial nations and blobs out of control.
>>1937189Huh interesting I dunno i feel like it would have gone with giving them some sort of hyper dev bonus to their cave area and making it sorta a scientific and religious haven lore wise. But I suppose the empire already has tons of small strong tags
>>1937855The old mission tree was probably even more conquest-heavy, if you can believe it, especially the dragon path. The colony, Zurzumexia (and the Triarchy) are a bit closer to being a free scientific haven, I think. Not sure if they have much or any content, however.
>>1937180Forgot to put it before, but I would also like a fucking Pieds-Noir's esque tag on Akasik about a band of Lencori Republicans that are tired of the fucking Lorentish Crown so they pull an "Kaiserreich SandFrance" oppressing/assimilating the Akan/Gnolls fuckersI don't know, was thinking about them pop'ing up after Wineport falls to Lorent and as long as you have a decently big enough navy they spawn down there
tips for naleni? What ideas are good on them, never really played with piracy and coastal raiding before. Also is there some way to tell whether someone will be trapped on the other side of the gulf of rahen or walk all the way around it to reach my territory?
>>1937180I want more kobolds, kobolds everywhere... I feel like a race of dragon worshipping weak but very numerous lizards is ripe for all sorts of interesting stories.
Castellos alive. Castellos alive in Bulwar making the fast rap.
>>1937115Taychend superpower by 1836 AA
New Race Ideas - The Dark Elf>Dark skin, not light skin>Cave and underground dwellers, not surface dwellers>Matriarchy, not patriarchy>Hedonistic, sadistic, not pure and noble>Long term goal: emerge from the underground and seize the surface realms, through subterfuge
>>1937970You get a temporary colonist by missions since you need a couple islands but exploration doesn't hurt, other than that just maritime and naval is fine because their sailor gain is absolutely trash if you're not constantly raiding and there's no need to really siege the mainlands of powers you fight when you can just blockade people to death and steal all their ships. Be warned though that the tree isn't finished properly since it needs Insyaa to beat a couple missions and I had a bug with one of their raiding missions where despite it taking into account a province having coastal defenses it still didn't count it so I had to war Bhuvauri to beat it.>tipsIyarhashar will anti-monstrous you almost immediately basically every time that I've seen, take their land in Sarhal and then their island province (you need it for a later mission anyway), then wait for them to naval invade it back and attack their Raheni mainland provinces. Ideally you take one of them as well since you need four provinces on the Rahen coast for a mission. Only other thing is watch out for the Jaddari, in my games they have a habit of invading right next to those provinces and warring you with anti-monstrous unless you have a large enough army to make the AI think twice, then you just wait the clock until they fight the Raj.>trappedYou need provinces on both sides of the gulf, but with all the raiding you need to do (your economy is shit basically the entire time unless you raid) your enemies will probably just get access because everyone will be hostile for a long while and you have to fight the only other tag that you could feasibly ally in Pinghoi as pirates can only ally other pirates.
Moonhaven has some truly terrible ideas.
both EU4 and the CK3 mod take place almost immediately after what can best be described as a D&D campaign, does the Vic3 one have an equivalent?
>>1938128Like what? I played them a year ago and I don't remember anything outrageous, just typical trade, naval and diplo bonuses
>>1937995Elikhander has the wisdom of the falcon
>>1938144There's Blackpowder Rebellion, antimagic French Revolution in Anbennar. I think it spirals into Napoleonic wars and results in all neighbours taking a bite of Anbennar and eventually reinstating the Silmuna Emperor. This entire thing is either unfinished or hidden in the discord chats, so I can't give you any names or great deeds.
tags for this kind of feel?
>>1938278Centaurs, Tugund-Darakh, Obrtrol, quite a few Taychend tags for a few
>>1938297Obrtrol civilizes towards the end of their mission tree pretty hard. Gnolls are a safe bet though.
>>1938297taychend gets btfo by greek philosophers thoughever
Is there a way to get rid of the majority/minority event spam? Gets rather tiring after a short while.
>>1938278isn't Black Doctrine basically built on the idea that the universe is a powerlevel nightmare and that the only thing that matters is your (magical) strenght
>>1938332you have to click... le genocide button... billions must die so Cannor can rise
people will look at Grombar forcing human men into marriage with orc women so their wifes can abuse and rape them into submission and be like "hell yeah I wish that was me!"
Thinking of giving Ravelian a shot. Any good nations for a Ravelian run?
>>1938341>replace spam with spam
>>1938328>taychend gets btfo by greek philosophe-ACK
>>1938343Yes.
>>1938347yeah but eventually you won't get spammed anymore
>>1937180A Kukatodic tag in Yyl Moitsa (the north-west of the forbidden plains).>starts as a migratory tribe>ruled by elderly women, as according to the lore their faith believes that wise crones are the mediums between the material and spirit world>mission tree relatively bog-standard at first (grow bigger, build an army, colonize some stuff, develop a few provinces, etc)>eventually though, your crones start coming into contact with hags (either green hags or bheur hags, either works)>hags decide to work with you, in the sense that you'll do what they want in exchange for them helping protect you from the ogres & centaurs>turn into a "republic" with mechanics to represent this co-operation >your crone leaders are now all witches, having been given magical powers by the hags>the hags give you "agendas" that you have to complete, usually involving bringing suffering to please them (razing provinces, having large amounts of dev occupied during a war, vassalizing nations, taking great projects to destroy them, etc)>completing them gives you strong benefits, but failing them does the opposite and hurts your country considerably>end goals involve taking over the forbidden plains & lake fed so that your people can finally be safe, while also spreading influence into the surrounding regions so the hags still have targets for their schemes>you also completely purge the ogres and the centaurs from the plains, because the ogres enslave and eat you (the Kukatodics are the first target Skurkokli gets), and the centaurs are the reason the forbidden plains has zero spirit presence according to the lore>also have them get involved in the rending of realms somewhat since they still worship the spiritsFor all the presence hags are given in the lore, there's literally only two tags that involve them currently - the swamp trolls, and the count's league (who only mention them in one mission). Might as well have another tag that actually involves them.
>black doctrine is the most correct metaphysical view of the world >it is also the most comically evil, its representative nation immediately declaring everyone who isn't a mage to be a slave in service to the SKULL THRONEWhat did they mean by this?
>>1938347>don't commit genocide>spam>commit genocide>spamthe illusion of free choice
>>1938487Truth shall suffer no lie
>>1938487bro it's okay because they like will eventually free us from the Demiurge bro just trust me bro the skeleton armies and world-wide oppression will surely help me beat Surael bro I won't get burnt to a crisp by his divine light
>>1938498A lot of the things the Black Demesne does are unforced errors.There is no reason to do a halfling holocaust or blow up Anbenncóst, or to put dwarves in concentration camps.
>>1938487Black Doctrine is a tool of the malevolent dark though and Surakel will destroy it and save Halann.
>>1938503>There is no reason to do a halfling holocaust or blow up Anbenncóst, or to put dwarves in concentration camps.It's funny
>>1938509reverse image search shows this is from reddit
>>1938509Why is he purple
>>1938510of course it does that is where I found it
>>1938511Purple is the Wex color
>>1938504There is no God but SuraelAnd Jaddar is His prophetHis truth is The JaddWhich shall shine on all Halann forevermoreAnd guide every soul toward His workPraise the Sun!
You know, Northern Wind (the centaur tribe with only one province so they migrate around) ends up staying in Dur Vazhatun so often that they should just get their own mission tree about settling it. Become centaur-astrologers. They could be like Marrhold and unlock mitigation for the hold maluses
>>1938546>a centaur holdI want to see art of this
>>1938543>SuraelYou disgusting elf. The children of Bulwar will no longer follow you and your elven lies.
>saw that they changed Dartax's mission tree>decide to give it a try>takes away the event that let you become a god-king >makes sense given how OP it was relative to how easy it was to get>"don't worry though bro, you get this cool new formable">literally just "I cant believe it's not the Black Demense" for Bulwar>the formable has no mission tree>Dartax's mission tree also prevents you from forming Surakes (meaning you can't take the formable that actually has content)>also the formable's bugged and gives you default Bahari ideas when you form it for some reasonWhy add this shit to the main build if it clearly isn't finished?
>>1938598I wondered why it was listed in the patch notes as "partial rework." That's disappointing.
Are there any paths for Escann where we can avenge the Greentide as humanity
>>1938602there's quite a few that deal with the Orcs in a not-so-kind way, yeah, but since the Orcs don't have a homeland, so to speak, and you intend to live on Escann after reconquering it, no tags really go scorched earth like the Orcs did as far as I'm aware
>>1938608>the Orcs don't have a homelandWhere's the Escanni tag that takes no chances and takes the fight all the way to Hul-Jorkad
>>1938610I mean, Hul-Jorkad is a homeland, I guess, but literally every escanni, except maybe marrhold, is too busy trying to rebuild a broken continent and fighting over religion to really care about shit in the spine that the dwarves are already reconquering on their own
>>1938598I don't know if it's broken or something but I had access to the formable on tags other than Dartax
I feel like i'm going crazy with Naleni, how the heck do i pillage a capital in a peace deal? it's not an option with either monstrous or conquest wars.
>>1938624Do you have Leviathan? It's locked behind that DLC.
>>1938627fug
>>1938628pirate it, just look at cs . rin . ru
Hey the wiki isn't up to date, can anyone give me a qrd on the different new orc cultures and their main nation/way to form them if they don't exist at start? I know the Blooded Orcs look to be centered on the Masked Butchers. The Dwarf Capital ones are now Highhold instead of regular Black Orcs. There are also Cavelurkers, Drakeclaws, Manhunters, Moltenbrands, and Skull Orcs which caught my eye.
>>1938694The orc cultures corrospond to tags.
>>1938034>You need provinces on both sides of the gulf, but with all the raiding you need to do (your economy is shit basically the entire time unless you raid) your enemies will probably just get access because everyone will be hostile for a long while and you have to fight the only other tag that you could feasibly ally in Pinghoi as pirates can only ally other pirates.That's what's happening. Thank you, harpy-sama. The amount of money and cultural conversion the mission tree requires is maddening though.
>>1938695Okay, what tag corresponds to Cave Lurkers or Moltenbrands? Because I can't find them. Don't know who forms the Tarakari, Karakharbari, Redtusk, or Rugan orcs either.
>>1938705Some don't have tags.Tarakari are from the pan-blorc formable, karakharbari are the non-fey green orc formable in the deepwoods, redtusk are created from the corintar mission tree (basically they're green orcs that are converted to corinitism and put into reservations) and rugan orcs are khozrugan, the west castanor formable.
>>1938707Thanks. Do you know if that Bulwari orc formable was ever updated or is it still out of date? Seems like they don't even have a tag nearby to form it anymore now that the Masked Butchers aren't black orcs.
>>1938707Those are all tags. Can you name the non tag ones?
>>1938710Looks like Cave Lurkers and Moltenbrands don't have an associated tag yet, just a few uncolonized provinces in the Serpentspine
>>1938712>cave lurkers>when all the serpentspine orcs already lurk in caves
Is the Masked Butcher a good, lengthy MT?
>>1938721I'm not sure, this is what they start with and they're all pretty ominous and vague. I assume something else opens up after these
>>1938729yeah it opens up and then you start blobbing
>>1938731I've never played the undermountain orcs before, how does this whole pillage camp thing work? Should I move my capital to this hold as is required in the later mission, or do I just want to sack it to nothing and then migrate east to kill those other factions I need to purge?
>>1938738you need to go on some expeditions. Open up the trade map and itll show you provinces with expedition targets.
