This thread is NOT for bug reports, yes, there are a lot of issues with the DLC but if you want to discuss them please do so in one of the many dedicated threads to them.Previous: >2184254
How's the performance?
>>2189987>fucking up the previous>>2184254
>>2189991Good so far.
>>2189991
gm saars
>>2189991to shreds you say?and the gameplay?
> The Chinese get 32 new unique tribal innovations and 22 new feudal ones.Fucking hell. They introduced more innovations for one region than in all previous DLCs combined. Absolute bullshit.They're just licking the asses of Chinese players. I bet this is after their recent fuckup with hoi dlc, where they let India create the Silk Road and it pissed off the Chinese.What a cringe fucking disaster that they just don't give a shit about what people actually care about—CRUSADES, GODDAMN IT. The thing in the game's fucking title. The thing that sold your trash. The thing real players outside China give a damn about.My ass is on fire from this woke, soi-agenda company shitting all over the great legacy of CK2. Absolute fucking disgrace.
Well, China collapsed before I got here. I was going to worm my way to the top over a few generations but now I might just pick one of the big guys, join up with them as a vassal and warlord max on their behalf.
>>2190007>They're just licking the asses of Chinese playersBased.
>CK3 devs check player starts in a few months time>It's still British Isles majoritykek
>>2190007many of these innovations are kinda shitsinkworms gives -50% cost to changing the fashion of the royal court...
>>2190014Playing on islands is just so much better than continents. Same with Japan. There's no way for you to make ugly borders, and you have a natural path of progression.
>>2190007USAID lost
>if you play with the horselords DLC they blob like crazy>if you play with the chink dlc they blob like crazylmao so for the proper game experience you need to play without dlc?
Even the nivkh have five traditions now while the french have three!
God the content in this DLC is awful.At lest the map expansion is good.Guess I'm gonna play in Europe again.
>>2190044Sure if you like your china ruled feudally
>hinduist tibetan-assamese dynasty
BUGS EVERYWHERESTARSHIP TROOPERS
>>2190045mods will fix it
>>2190045Why do you care?They're all the way on the other side of the world.If you play on that specific side of the world with the French, you will never ever have to actually interact with the Chinese and "get obliterated" or whatever over them being more advantage than you are.Also, it's accurate to history since China was more advanced in a lot of things compares to Europe, so why complain and seethe like this?
>>2189987>both japan and china have interesting ways of climbing to power, but they're often too reliant on event spam and other boring shit>there's nothing fun to do once you reach the top in your respective sphere>mandala countries are ok enough, but it's more senseless buff spam>everything else is underdeveloped slop that doesn't matter to the game at all, but will hog your memoryThis is another "wide as ocean, deep as puddle" DLC. Genuinely, what in the actual fuck. How can Paradox keep messing these simple things up? Do they believe that EUV sales will save them?
>>2190054also thailand is zoroastrian for some reason
>>2190064its where Zarathustra has fled and got addicted to opium
>>2190059The siberian clans are more culturally developed than the French, LMAO your ass
>>2190064everytime I take a look I find some new retarded shit happening
>>2190071So? You're never actually going to interact with them at all if you play as the French.
Is AUH worth it?
>>2190077pirate it for the mods, it's not that interesting
>>2190073his wife a baddie though
>>2190076Same applies for the Khazars, what's your cope for this?
>>2190060>>there's nothing fun to do once you reach the top in your respective spherebabby's first paradox game
>>2190073indonesia is predominantly muslim tho, they did a lot of sailing and conversions
>>2190080who cares? they're jewish. you can just exterminate them at will.
>>2190083Who cares about anything at all? What are you a fucking emo?
>>2190085you're seething way too much about this
>>2190096I care cause I play the game, you don't give a shit about anything
>>2190064must be the "take in religious minorities" decision
>>2190085tabletki poprosze
>>2190105kys kurwa
>>2190105I don't speak Swahili
>>2190073Korea is simply 1000 years ahead of schedule on culturally enriching themselves
>>2190102there isthey fucked up conversion system, now you hurt your development and expel these people making them in to wondering gypsies that someone else might adopt for the sake of development points
I've been enjoying it a lot so far. Assuming every future expansion has that much care and content put into it as AUH or even better, we are looking at some great years.Probably isn't going to happen though.
>all under heaving is OUTWhere we dropin' @ lads?
>>2190115It's kinda like an avalanche, the longer they go on, the more powerful the DLCs get. I guess the problem then is remaking old content once in a while, cause being the first on the list of expansions is actually worse than being the last.
>>2190078there are mods for the latest DLC already? Any recommendations?
>>2190123Princes of Darkness is actually already updated, and i bet Game of Thrones will take a day or three to get back on track
>>2190123>Any recommendations? >>2188290
>>2190121ck2
is the landless gameplay fun? Should I try it for my first run in ages?
>>2189987And here it is, another shallow dlc but this time it's 100x times larger and ruins the entire vibe of the game by adding fucking east asia on the map in game about the old world
So when’s the dlc that adds good and complex mechanics and flavor to Europe?
>>2189987We must free Japan from the Yayoi yoke!
>>2190137east asia is part of the old world
>>2190136it is but it gets repetitive fast, and you should have the means to become landed by the time that happens
>OOOGGA BOOGG BIXXN NOOOD MOFFUAAAHHH>WHERE THE WHITE WOMEN AT???
New map looks fucking terrible.
>>2190172Haesteinn, as the King of Reddit, would provide them.
>>2190177haesteinn says trans rights!
>>2190179Sounds like him.
>>2190021> many of these innovations are kinda shitThey have +35% development just from these innovations. That's fucking insane
>>2190073Looks like Crusader Kings alright. My biggest gripe about this game has always been far away places randomly flipping religion and culture to something nonsensical and shattering the little immersion the game provided, the adventurer DLC made it 10x worse. Now that the whole world can interact with each other I can just imagine what things will end up looking like after you let the game run for a few decades.
>without the dlc all of east asia is feudalepicguess i better make them clan bismillah
>>2189987Update is gonna kill my gpu. I'm getting huge temp spikes going up to 97 degrees if I look around the map quick or zoom out which causes my fans to go to 100% for a few seconds.
>>2190260>97 degreesthe fuck
>>2190265That's the readings I'm getting. it only happens for a few seconds then drops to the average 60ish but the fans going into overdrive reacting to it every single time does my head in and probably won't do them any good by how often it would happen if I played long sessions.
hey wait a minuteI don't find asian women attractive
I wasn't paying to much attention to the dev diaries so I had no idea that the free update still included the expanded map but asia has the wrong governments, cultures, religions etc. Basically forcing you to buy the DLC if you want everything to be accurate. Should of been an option to keep the old map if you don't want to play china/japan
>>2190286The way CK2 did it was non-playable factions had all the mechanics you just couldn't play as them. This kept the balance the same.CK3 balance is already FUBAR though. If you're not playing as nomads it's best to turn the Khans of the Steppe DLC off unless you want all of Europe Mong'd every game.
>>2190260I'm dumb as fuck but just in case it helps any you might want to make sure you've updated driver in case that alleviates it whatsoever
why tf does convincing the EMPEROR OF JAPAN to support you in an election give the same +10 bonus as asking a random count?
>>2190289The kampaku or the real emperor? The emperor is just a figurehead so his say means nothing
>>2190277A temperature spike due to sudden load is nothing unusual, but a spike of that magnitude seems more than odd.If your problem was just your fans shifting into gear 11 every now and then, simply adjusting your fan curves would fix it.
>>2190291the kampaku yes
>>2190297If his GPU is ever at 97 degrees his fans should be spiking. If it stays like that for any length of time it'll start smoking.
>>2190281same, I hope at least the game has convincing looking hapas when you interbreed
dicking around with console, some old commands don't work anymore apparentlyincluding the one to set character faith as root/then using that root to convert all held counties to set faith
>>2190320Yeah, someone made Muhammed a satanist so they removed it.
is it not possible to own more than 1 county per person in japan? I made my son the top candidate for a county, killed the old ruler and now i can't promote him for any other roles.
The new DLC is a welcome addition but it’s still a bit empty content wise. I get that not everything can be packed into the DLC but playing for Korea felt barren. Sure, it’s still something if you compare it with other regions but not much. Japan is more unique but I didn’t even bother learning to play there. It feels too different from the others. Kinda like I never play Japan in EU4 because I’m not going to bother dragging myself through all the hooks and loops and restrictions imposed on the feudal lords. It feels like a game within a game but not in a good way.
game just started crashing randomly whenever I start the .exe, anyone had this happen to them too?
>>2190260>>2190288>>2190297For anyone else who might have the same problem I moved from Vulkan to dx11 and turned on adaptive framerate which has stopped it from spiking up when I'm panning the camera around the map. Don't have a clue why they worked but it's stopped it from hitting those ridiculous temps. I probably should update my drivers as well since I've been on this one for well over a year now.
>>2190351LOG OUT OF YOUR STEAM QUICKLY
>>2190351we told you not to try and crack the DLCs
Why is there so much ethnicity bloat now?
LOL
>>2190367the more the merrier, i want a lot of ethnicities, religions and languages
>>2190367what? are you racist?
We got Papuan nudists before trade, republics, or proper crusades.
>>2190367Play Emishi-Ainu and restore the Japans to their rightful owners.
>>2190385which one? the japanese speaking but ethnically ainu emishi or the actual ainu?
>>2190367>NOOOO YOU'RE GIVING ME TOO MANY CHOICES IN MY CHOICE-BASED GAMEwhy are chuds like this?
Ok i must be retarded and missed something. How do you do local examination? Im capped on Merit for 8th rank and it says i need to do that to advance, but it says i cant do it cause i haven't passed it?
>>2190367you sound triggered
why does everyone look like shane gillis
>>2190378I'm making those nudist Papuans emperors of China
I just got appointed to the Grand Chancellery which for some reason already has 6/6 scales of power against the huangdi. He has a strong hook on me so I can't coup him yet, but he's also sick so maybe soon. They just need to make the examination events more diverse and make being a civilian governor more active.>>2190396you have to go to a local exam hosted by someone else
>>2190417>you have to go to a local exam hosted by someone elseDo all the exams require someone who has already passed it to host it? What happens when everyone capable of hosting an exam of X rank and those above it die?
*sighs* time to play as HRE and beat the greeks again.
>>2190007Chinese century. Seethe, amerimutt.
>>2190430half decade max.Perhaps two decades on south east asia.
>>2190431>half decade max.>Perhaps two decades on south east asia.
This might be me just nitpicking but I immediately noticing that the effects they use for disasters, like for example, earthquake panel having debris falling inside the text box or stuff like smoke / dust in the character panel is basically just a transparent video file they got off of Footagecrate then they overlaid it on there.Not that I'm expecting them to have even those be hand made or original, but still, the fact I recognize the VFX library they got them off of is weird.
>>2190007trying to get on the good side of ching chong commies is "woke" now?
>>2190437what part of sucking foreign dick isn't woke?
>>2190437Always has been
What's the point of all these DLCs if the AI is braindead and the game has no challenge?
>>2190450>foreignerswhites are the foreigners, no the chinese.the chinese are minorities.
>>2190456indeed, what's the point of improving something if said something is not perfect, we should all just lay down and die
>>2190456the point is to get wacky funny screenshots that you can post on reddit for upvotes and positive karma
>>2190417>you have to go to a local exam hosted by someone elseI must be missing something cause ive gone to several and it still never unlocks.
what in the fuck is this shit?
>>2190461But entirely unironically.
They really need to add a way to give commands to allied armies because they're infuriatingly retardedI'm trying to besiege a castle but my army is a few men shy of being able to progress and my ally is just sitting there doing nothing
>>2190470https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVnscHsPfR4
>>2190470>During the reign of Emperor Xuanwu of the Northern Wei, Faqing (法庆), a monk from Jizhou, proclaimed himself the “New Buddha” (新佛), with Li Gueibe (李歸伯) as the “Tenth-Level Bodhisattva” (十住菩薩), claiming to attain Buddhahood through the Bodhisattva path thus calling himself the “Great Vehicle Buddha” (大乘佛) and founded the Mahayana sect (大乘教), also known as the Mahayana Maitreya sect (彌勒大乘教).[3][7][12] He quotes from Buddhist scriptures saying that Maitreya is the next Buddha and states that “Maitreya Buddha has descended to save the world replacing Sakyamuni Buddha”. Contrary to Buddhism, he created the doctrine of “killing people to create chaos” and believed that killing one person would become a Bodhisattva of first-stage, killing ten people would become a Bodhisattva of the tenth stage. He and his followers destroyed Buddhist temples, beheaded monks and nuns, and burned sutras and statues while proclaiming “The new Buddha has appeared who will eradicate the old demons.”[3] He also used illegal drugs and drove those who took them mad so that parents, children and siblings did not know each other, and would only kill and maim each other.“ This rebellion came to be known as the "Faqing Rebellion” (法慶之亂), which was later suppressed by Yuan Yao (元遙).[13] From then on, there were many rebellions with “Maitreya Buddha has descended to the world” as the main slogan. Rebellions also occurred in the Wuchengjun region of eastern Shanxi, where two sect leaders from the “mountain barbarians” attracted a large following characterized by dressing in white and using white umbrellas and banners. The teachings also involved wishing upon Maitreya.[14]
>>2190477Didn't CK2 just have the option to either tell them to attach to one of your specific army stacks or to go around focusing on siege alone or something like that?
>>2190484Satanic garbage orchestrated by actual demons into getting people to just massacre each other in droves even more aimlessly than before. Great.
>>2190484Decisive Tang victory.
>>2190470slaanesh buddha
>>2190463No idea, are you going with the "take exam" intent (or whatever it's called) instead of the one where you help administer the exam, and also actually passing the exam? You also need to pass the metropolitan and palace exams for the higher ranks, the local exam just gets you to 6th rank iirc
>>2190484Why do the Chinese wig out every century? Cultural revolution, Taiping rebellion, whatever the fuck this is, what's their deal?
>>2190497Nothing they've done has compared to European warfare and chimpouts.
>>2190484Oh..
>>2190499Except in terms of scale, brutality, and meaninglessness.
>>2190501Paradox and their wacky made-up religioh...
Paradox just needs to add the Americas now.
>>2190497Having large, docile population with centralized gov means relative stable period but with the down side of massive chimp out when shit finally hit the fanIt usually happened when agriculture output cant keep up with the huge population anymore and a chain of disasters (war, drought, flood etc) could easily cause mass starvation ==> rebellion ==> total collapse of social order
>>2190497If they didn't, we'd already have 20 billion of them by now.
>>2190507How? There's next to no history for them from so far back. Only more recently we became aware of the fact there were some kinds of people living there before the Indians that build some more advanced shit but beyond that, we have no records of anything happening there past the Indians.
>>2190510Colonization mechanics >but it's too earlywho cares, vikings did it, plus it would add a lot of modding possibilities
>>2190502Both of our species' World Wars with unprecedented human death and suffering were the results of Europeans chimping out over retarded nonsense.
>>2190010>Well, China collapsed before I got here how does China collapse is it the retarded Dissolution faction?
>>2190486You know the actual orthodox Buddhist sect aka Theravada are pretty chill and don’t have this whole esoteric insanity going on. They just meditate, eat rice and work in the monastery.
>>2190523they're still idolaters that worship demons though, regardless of how "chill" they are.yes, every religion out there aside from Christianity worships either demons or fallen angels of some sorts, even though they're not aware of it.
>>2190527LMAO
>There's no Decision to reform the Shinto faith when you restore direct Imperial rule>There's no Decision about conquering Hokkaido>There's no Decision about conquering Ryukyu>There's no Decision to invade Korea>Once you restore direct Imperial rule the game is over, there are no further decisions or cool events.Ah well I guess I can just make my own fun but this is a bit underwhelming, hopefully China will be more fun.
>>2190531mods will fix it
>>2190527every christian denomination claims all the other ones worship demons, you're not a united front
>>2190535how does any of that contradict the fact Jesus literally said He is The Way, The Truth and The Life and that no one gets to The Father but through Him?Christianity remains the one true religion regardless of how much you try to twist and turn your way around on it, and the sooner you accept that and embrace it, the sooner you life will improve.
>>2190515Yes, WW2, which started in 1937, was Europe's fault.
>>2190535stop responding to bait
>>2190523*genocides rohingya*
>>2190539I miss when third worlders couldn't afford to use the internet
>>2190545>no argument
>>2190547>no please argue with me on the crusader kings thread I need attentionYou belong here>>>/int/>>>/his/>>>/trash/
>>2190549>still no argumenti accept your concession
Are there Jomons in the new update? I can't wait to conquer the world as a Jomonchad.
>>2190553There is no distinction between Yayoi and Jomon.
So there’s no Kirishitan Christianity?
>>2190563700 years too early
>>2190563You will convert them to Adamitism and you will be happy.
>>2190461No, what's the point of "impoving" something if it doesn't work? CK3 has brain dead AI and it's impossible to lose so why the fuck would you want CHINA or JAPAN or anything else while the game doesn't fucking work due to being unable to lose.
>>2190563>>2190565
>>2190568Can't tell if this is a glitch or a commentary on Taisho being a retard.
>>2190532worst phrase to ever exist desu
Is there any content for Chinese adventurers? I’ve aced all the exams but that seems to be pointless.
>>2190573no refunds
>>2190531why do you need decision to conquer stuff, is the bakufu system so strict the shogun can't declare external wars?
>>2190582not him but even kampaku can declare external wars/try for Chinese hegemony CBsthough IDK if it'd break something to take the EmperorOfChina decision while still technically subservient to the Emperor of Japan. I guess he'd just be your nothing-vassal?
>>2190582I managed to take over Japan as the Tenno and keep the Ritsuryo government but I kinda regret it, you don't get Samurai, you only get count vassals and you can only declare external wars by changing a policy that gives you some debuffs in return, I think my second playthrough will be as a shogun.
Does Japan have a treasury system because it seems like I could just force every governor to retire infinitely
>start as random nobody>manage to get a king-tier appointment literally days before China implodes>fight my way to the top>die of old age but my son finishes my work and he becomes emperor after defeating my main rivalEverything was kind of neat up until this point.>great projects reset on succession or bug out frequently>90% of my time is spent manually appointing people into positions, a task that's supposed to be semi-automated>get penalised on the era if I appoint people who don't have enough merit, get opinion penalties for having too many duchies if I don't appoint anyone>duchies and counties keep reverting back to me for some reason, penalising my opinions with my vassals constantly until I notice and fix it>get special peasant faction revolts that never go away and who get mad whenever I'm at war>get spammed constantly by eunuch and adultery events that I don't care aboutIf they fix the constant busy-work and the bugs, this might actually be alright.
Hope pandering to China works out for Paradox. A small percentage of a large number is still a large number, no?
>>2190600Chinese playerbase is huge. At the rate it's growing before long Paradox won't bother making any games for the RotW.
>>2190600The first step is adding China and Chinese content to their existing games, the next step is making a China-only game.
>>2190602Big profits = more devs = bigger teams for our games = me happyBut will it encourage Paradox to make a Cold War game? Probably not.>>2190603Sure, why not. I'd play that. It's not like Creative Assembly's Three Kingdoms game is working out.
How do I get my naked tribal papuan gigachads to europe?
>>2190607become adventurer and travel there
The year 867 is absolutely unplayable for administrative governments because the AI cannot adequately manage the treasury and avoids going into wild deficits, which leads to constant rebellions and collapse.They need a boost from the 1066 development and innovations to somehow avoid falling apart in the first 20 years.
Is administrative government Japan just playing whack a mole against the 5 samurai county governments that keep spawning every year despite you killing the last 5 who tried
>>2190615>the AI cannotThe AI cannot do SHIT and it's ruining the game
Is there literally any paradox game with AI that isn’t retarded
>>2190638No, but HoI4 has a mod that makes the AI competent. I would say it makes Hoi4 the only good modern Paradox game because you can install a mod that gives it an ok AI
>>2190638No and any AI improvements would fry the computers of half their playerbase who are third worlders playing with laptops from 2010
>>2190638You have to use mods, stuff like Xorme AI from EU4
>>2190642Why doesn't CK3 have something like this?
B A S E DASED
If converting faiths causes them to bounce to neighbors that are willing to accept refugees, wouldn't taking the proselytizing journey thing as a LAAMP destabilize the ever-loving fuck out of East Asia if you used some faith like Manicheasm with mendicant preachers?
>>2190651>h1bs>in swedenthe americanisation of games discussion is turning it in to poo
>>2190652Events causing faiths to change do not affect development. Only the convert councilor task specifically reduces development.Based on what I've seen so far at least.
I wonder what fantasy mods will do with god kings.
>>2190657It will be used for Sauron apparently.
I haven't played since CK3 releaseWhere on the map should i play first now?
>>2190655The seethe about video game companies catering to China still delicious, though. Capitalism's pursuit of profit isn't good anymore, when you're no longer #1, is it?
>>2190665Kamchatka
>>2190603Sure a China only game is on the tableBut what will it be like, a CK3 clone but East Asian only?
>>2190668CK3: Three Kingdoms edition, probably, if Paradox wants to spit in CA's eye.>Expand Dong memes>Starting situation: Hard
>>2190656right, and if the faith isn't accepted by the dudes who just had their county swapped by a wandering hobo, they'll convert it themselves trying to get rid of it at some point
It’s outrageous that the CK3 wiki guy doesn’t get early access. Also, what happens to the (Ceremonial) Emperor of Japan if you take over China and become the new Hegemon as the Shogun, does his title just vanish (you’d switch government types)?
>>2190645It would be pretty terrible. Xorme makes the AI minmax and be more aggressive and that's not the issue with CK3, it runs much deeper. You can already get a similar result with the conqueror mechanic.
Having played for 5 hours I have formed my opinionsEverything in East Asia feels really insular and playing there feels like it's a mod. Not in a bad way it just feels strange to play, administrative still makes sense to me but east Asian government types just don't feel core game. It's super easy just to dismember China as an adventurer. I conquered 2/5 of the dejure empires without being challenged once as Chinese vassals have 0 troops and you can even attack vassals under Chinese king tier vassals. Also once you defeat them you get their treasury for some reason so you literally never run out of money. If you decided to adventurer max you could literally conquer China using the claim mandate war as a stacked county because they only have like 5k troops and will melt against any player optimized army. I think the realm size for no top liege protection should be upped to like 200 instead. Also peasant rebellions in China actually make them move to the expansion phase faster than the turmoil phase as they will always win it and gain +50 to expansion.
>>2190367I'd say there are not enough.Tf do you mean Greeks and Armenians look the same?
>>2190667You tricked meKamchatka is not in the game
>>2190689>t. seething greek
>>2190691hehe rekted
>>2190689>Tf do you mean Greeks and Armenians look the same?You look the same.
Is An Lushan white in the game filles like in real life?
>>2190701If Sogdians are white.
observation game 867 startmost normal nomadic ai behavior
>>2190682>it would be pretty terrible if CK3 had good AI???
>>2190702They were, as well as Tocharians, but they became less white over time.
>>2190704Oh great, Khazars being even more batshit than in CK2.
>>2190704reala bugman could never
>>2190705Yes, are you stupidThe game is completely unbalanced. If the AI minmaxed like a player then every character would have 100 stats on everything and large realms would never ever split upLike I said, the problems runs much deeper. You need to balance all the powercreeped mechanics before even thinking about AI, or the game would be even worse.
>>2190704China really is exceptionally weak against outside threats. The Byzantines are also even weaker than before due to them being constantly thousands in the negative in their treasury.You'd think the Chinese having anti archer cav maa would make them resistant to things like this happening, but they never recruit them.On a side note, why are the new legacies so mediocre? The Japanese one is kinda okay, but the rest is almost never a better pick than just going for kin, considering how difficult it is to get renown in larger quantities.
>>2190711>If the game starts having good AI the game would be even worse???
>>2190704>Khazars taking over the entire mapWelcome back CK2
>>2190715Yes, that's what he said retardAre you going to respond to it?
>>2190715>I am braindamaged???
>>2190716Nomads in CK2 would regularly settle if they conquer settled territories the size of a kingdom.
and then in typical ai fashion, they could only hold it together for a whopping 29 years.>>2190712the byzantines get bullied by nomadic horsemen in basically every single game i play, even before the update, i foresee it only getting worse now. most of eastern europe and arabia become tributaries every time. i think its just a combo of nomadics being overtuned and their neighbors never investing in man at arms that counter cavalry, or man at arms in general.
>>2190711>large realms would never ever split upnta but that's nonsense. Factions, outside influences, epidemics, ai on ai schemes...Moot point anyway. Hell will freeze over before paradox makes competent and reactive AI.
Has the Silk Road stuff changed any other regions in any significant way? Is playing in the Khotan area any different?
>>2190704and still there is no mod that nerfs the nomads, game is unplayable with them just destroying everyone and everything
>>2190732it's the developers intent that jewish horsemen dominate the map.
Wait, they added indonesia too?What the fuck?
How much longer will they continue to support the game?
>>2190740I don't know, but hopefully they'll finish it soon.
Am I wrong, or aren’t the Taoist faiths supposed to have heads of faith?>>2190740Probably atleast another two years.
>>2190744Taoism has never had any real organization, just random taoists walking about maybe establishing a temple.
>>2190689Chinese, Mongols, and Japanese should all be one ethnicity too
>>2190747the zhengyi description even mentions them having a theocratic hierarchy with the celestial master as a headbefore AHU I just thought that the head of faith doesn't exist since he's off-map but now it doesn't really make any sense
>>2190751Oh yeah they did have some theocratic stuff in the 3 kingdoms period already but I don't think it was universal, just pertaining to that realm.
Religions are really undercooked. Sad thing is, if they ever get around to actually giving the regions people like (Europe) and not focus on Adventurers of Reddit screenshot bait they will have to share focus with Christianity and Eastern Faiths.
>>2190510>history>in ck3LMAO
>>2190737nomad dlc is completely retardedtheir economy doesnt make any fucking senseevery single nomad is genghis khan at his peak of power
>>2190362>>2190364??
>Han culture crossbow maa no longer counter archer cavThe hell.
>>2190769you have to wonder why europeans would establish a whole hierarchical system of feudalism to have an army of knights when nomads (by default, without any prior conquests) could provide 10 times more knight with better armor and weapons, according to paradox
>>2190749ethnicity is just culture sir amerimutt, and they all had a different culturethe term that you probably want to use is RACE, but you are not allowed to.
>>2190776>iron cavalry is culture tradition for nomad shits>but nomads shit out knights by defaultWhat did they mean by this?
Crown smithies or military academies?
>>2190395>>2190408chud boardmaybe >>>/v/ is more up to your speed
>>2190542Justified, they're Bangladeshis squatting on Burmese land
I never really engaged with byzantine admin so maybe I'm just experiencing admin raw for the first time as a vassal, but I like Ritsuryoujust a shame China's going to unfracture its butthole by the time I have the emperor by the balls
>>2190542Oh no, how ho->Muslim>Indian Nevermind
>>2190791Academies increase what you get, smithies just make infantry stronk.
>>2190777There should only be like 5 ethnicities in the game. White, Black, Asian, Arab, Indian.
>>2190801Yes but if I want to focus on heavy inf is it better to have them buffed up or have more and better knights?
>>2190803Probably knights because blacksmith buffs now only apply to the men at arms that are stationed there rather than it being a stacking bonus applied to all of them
>>2190484I didn't know the Infinity Franchise was real.
>>2190802Arabs and Indians should be rolled into one, they are basically the exact same anyway.
proper trade and merchant republics WHEN
>>2190812Next year probably
So is the DLC good or not?
>>2190510Those people were usually other Indians.Not the same Indians as now, but sometimes traceable to other people nearby.
>>2190823Dunno about GOOD but so far it is:1. not broken2. more features than other dlc so farSo for Paradox standards it's looking great.
>>2190812Do those exist in the regions modern day paradox actually cares about, or only in the Chud realms of Western (and Central) Europe?
>>2190833The only places where merchant republics could exist are coast areas. But Muslim lands were into piracy and sharia law while Indian lands were hindered by caste system. And Chinks just didn't care. No idea about SEA monkeys.
>>2190838Then they shouldn’t make such an exclusionary DLC.
You know, maybe ck2 wasn't so bad after all.
>>2190851your laptop is dying
>>2190852>your laptop is dyingProcessor Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 1007U @ 1.50GHz 1.50 GHzInstalled RAM 4.00 GB (3.89 GB usable)Storage 238 GB SSDGraphics Card Intel(R) HD Graphics (32 MB)System Type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processorIt runs, so, that's a win I guess.
>>2190802>color, color, region, language, country.what about jewish and buddhist ethnicities? might add dress and pants ethnicities aswell, for the total anthropological accuracy.
>>2189991Surprisingly decent?Remember how adding India pretty much killed CK2 performance?Nothing of similar scale with this one. It is slightly slower on the load, BUT it's better than the result of adding adventurers when that expansion came out. So given the amount of shit and the size of map added, not to mention PDX release standards, it's say it's pretty good.But I was expecting a 15 min load time, so there is that.
>>2190007Do yourself a favour and google The Grand Titration by NeedhamThe entire DLC is build on his works, and that's pretty much a primer to what's even going on.Also>The wide plethora of actual historical Chink inventions that the rest of the world advanced is now woke propaganda, because um... reasons!
>>2190857im of a Virgo ethnicity personally, and im incompatible with a Sagittarius ethnicity
>>2190007>what people actually care about—CRUSADESExcept nobody cares about crusades since CK2 came out. That was 13 years ago, and chances are, you were in preschool back then, eating your snotsHell, even if you DO give a fuck about crusades, they are only fun when done ahistorically (like re-establishing Christian Egypt or the Arcbishopic of Africa - aka Tunisia - or simply turning reconquista into crusading). But going to the exact same piece of useless land between Damascus and Haifa time and again, for the exact same fucking results time and again? Why? What for? If you did it once, it's no different than doing it 50 times, and unless you are either starting with 1066 and luck the shit out of AI or outright the 1178 start to get a proper railroad, crusades in CK3 are just meh (not to mention the clusterfuck that was CK2 in any other date pre-1081). So you end up with a very narrow window when it's even worth to bother, and no start date makes it truly goodI'd argue both games should have a 1090 start date, just to have a proper pre-set for the first crusade: the right historical situation, all the important characters and then going with itAnd if you get involved as a human player, then there is just one crusade, ever, and unless you fuck up spectacularly, you end up ruling over the Holy Land in a single piece. Oh wow, what an exciting gameplay, you painted a useless piece of land your color! It's only good, if you are playing as a nobody upstart and this is your bid to get into power, but, again, no start date gives you fitting characters and you are always better off sticking to your own starting location anyway, as it at least shares your culture and religionHell, I'd argue CK3 makes crusades punishing to crusaders, unless they instantly go oriental via culture mixing. Cuz fuck you if you were playing previous 30 or 150 years in different location and properly developed your realm or its innovations, you now have to do with what AI was mis-managing
>>2190007>>2190876Also, consider this:Ever since adventurers were added to the game (which was a good thing, and anyone claiming otherwise is retarded), crusades lost their luster as the only way to wander around the map and play kingmaker scenarios. Now you have an entire set of mechanics that supports that and you can do that freely as any culture, any religion, rather than being Catholic on the pope's mercy. So even in the sheer "interesting stuff to do", you are now better off just playing a wandering noble with his retinue, fighting wars and medding into affairs of other people for your leisure and legacy, rather than doing once-per-gameplay mandated trip to the Holy Land or being stuck as a tribal raider.So yeah, nobody cares about crusaders for two games at this point, and for a whole lot of good reasons
>heir becomes a lustful faggot>had 2 male lovers before inheriting>only produces 4 daughters through 2 marriages>dies in a random event>game overFUCK
>>2190889Can’t you choose new destiny max and play one of your distant male relatives?
>>2190876>>2190881trvke
I won't bother until v1.18 with all dlc appears somewhere, too much hassle to find only the patch.
>>2190881>which was a good thing, and anyone claiming otherwise is retardedshit bait
>>2189987The time has finally come to Claim the Mandate of Heavenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ol_1hioedA
>PoD already has a dev buildOh yeah I’m Kuei Jinning it
>>2190638Unironically EU1 and EU2EU3 with HTTT has still capable AI (but it can't play with DW for shit)It always boggles me how they could have competent AI handled by about 20 lines of editable txt file, but even long before the DLC model, they somehow lost the ability to make AI capable of playing their own games.Victoria was probably the biggest shitshow: AI in the original couldn't play it, then it went full retard in Vicky 2 and as far as I'm concerned, Vicky 3 has the least incompetent (which doesn't mean good) AI, simply because the game can play itself and AI just sits in the corner while that happens.HoI was always a struggle for AI, since it's very easy to encircle it. Original didn't have this problem due to the sheer size of provinces, but ever since DH decreased province size, AI is getting completely overrun. They "countered" that in 4 by giving zoomers battle planer, which executes HORRIBLE plans and thus gives AI a fighting chance by training players to be incompetent (and the AI still loses if you have numerical/technological/both superiority)CK2 and 3 are interesting in regard that there is on one hand AI genuine incompetence AND the AI roleplaying as morons with the right set of traits. Taken together, this creates rather... special results.
>>2190909>Adventurers are... le bad!>Cuz... they are!You were saying something about bait, weren't you?
>>2190889If only the game had the option to switch characters...
Technology tied to culture is the worst idea paradox ever had, also fuck the "culture head" mechanic
>>2190931Adventurers are a meme and dare I say a cheat that don't mesh with the rest of CK3.They'd be perfect for a fantasy total conversion like Anbennar for obvious reasons, but in the base game it makes something that required actual work, like a Norse-to-India run, trivial. Plus, if you do literally anything secret, you're constantly at risk of being blackmailed by Fuckface McIlliterateLowborn and his merry band of like five people and some cows.
>>2190940>Technology tied to culture is the worst idea paradox ever hadWrong, it's fantastic and easily one of the better things that came with CK3, especially since it's a core mechanics right from the premiereYou just need to play mods, rather than vanilla to realise how fucking great it is>fuck the "culture head" mechanicTrue, and it also renders Learning completely useless if you aren't culture head of your culture. But then again, the game incentivises you to de-centralise and split cultures non-stop, the direct opposite of EU logic where you want large, uniform cultures
>>2190931Adventurers are bad because they essentially remove failure from the game, and totally disconnect the player from any concern with the political realities which shaped the way that people and countries operated in the feudal period.More fundamentally, though, they are the crystalisation of the shift in focus between crusader kings 2 and 3 from characters being a shared focus with politics and intrigue to the the politcs being set dressing for a role playing engine. Why is there an entire DLC focused on courts while merchant republics still aren't in the game 5 years after release - almost the entire length of CK2's supported development? How is it that nomads can somehow be even more bullshit than they were in CK2 and yet paradox has made 0 effort to fix them?The game in its current state only exists for youtubers and fetishists to wank off how dysgenic they can make their playable characters. In that sense there's barely even a game left, just le funny reddt posts.
>>2190942Agree to disagree.The actual solution to all problems with adventurers is very simple: in their current form, they should be a human-only feature.This way AI "adventurers" could be just characters showing one day at your court as guests, but you could play as one if you wanted to. This would allow to keep the mechanic fun, without the drag on CPU
>>2190947Counterpoint:All of your bitching only matters if your goal is kingdom- and empire-making.Otherwise, adventurers finally give an option to do something ELSE than map painting and still having fun. CK3 as a whole is geated toward huge-ass empire building, and it gets stale really fucking fast.>The game in its current state only exists for youtubers and fetishistsSo just like CK2? Gee, it's almost like this is a feature, not a bug
>>2190947>>2190949But I will give you one thing:At this point, PDX has ZERO excuse for not having republics and merchant city-states. All the pieces are there for 2 years now, and they are doing everything, but that.And adventurers would neatly glue with this, too.
>>2190948>the mechanic is retarded and the AI can't handle it but that's actually a good thing because something something gameplay variety
>>2190944It was always a stupid idea and now it's stupider given how common travelling and adventurers are, you can be a byzantine, travel east then settle somewhere and your land and nation will have 100% byzantine tech BECAUSE IT JUST DOES OKAY??? NO DOESNT MATTER IF YOU SETTLED IN JAPAN YOULL ALWAYS HAVE BYZ TECH OKAY??? and on top of that you'll still be a slave to the culture head. Shit system
>>2190952i dont know what they are thinking about, but muslim government needs a rework and i can see it taking priority over europe as per usual
>>2190956about as stupid as reforming your religion in to nudist cannibals, 3rd game has always been an ahistorical sandbox
>>2190949>All of your bitching only matters if your goal is kingdom- and empire-making.Yes, retard. That's the point of the gameIf you want to play a character focused game without map painting play the simsEven besides that, CK2 fucking still had a far richer way of engaging with the game than CK3 does. The holdings system of 2 is objectively superior to the fucking mess that is CK3. The vassal system is still, somehow, superior to CK3. The levies/retinues system is still, somehow, superior to CK3. The late stage empire management is still obviously superior to CK3.>So just like CK2?It almost never happened in CK2 because no one gave a shit about a little red heart with a -health modifier. CK2 barely got youtuber attention in the first place, and when it did people focused on either the actual game or fucking each others wives with seduction.Now CK3 is basically indistinguishable from VR chat in a way that makes the game less rich and less engaging. If you only ever give people exactly what they ask for you get slop
>Great Projects are back>They are behind a pay-wall and restricted to just Chink and Tibet features... progress?I guess at least modders now will have tools to make this shit FINALLY happen.Whoever had the grand idea of fixed, non-dynamic and impossible to develop on your own monuments, universities and all that shit should be hanged.
>>2190955>A perfectly fine mechanics should be human-only feature - and easily could be - to not bother AI from fucking shit up and slowing the gameHere, ftfyYou are literally hating the mechanic on the elements that I flag as something that should be changed, you dumb fuck. This should never be given to AI, and your main complain is that AI can't use it.
>>2190956>>2190961>t. faggot who forgot what sort of meme shit CK2 was, or maybe didn't even play it
>>2190972Oh, look, it's one of those "CK IS THE TRVE STRATEGY GAYM" faggots.Nigga, it's literally Princess Maker with male paper dolls to dress.ALWAYS have been.And map-painting is the most boring, underwhelming and tiresome thing to do in CK, both 1, 2 and 3. You can do a reliable world conquest in a span of 150-200 years, depending on your starting location. SOOOO exciting!
>>2190983>you could exploit extremely obscure mechanics to become a horse, therefore it's exactly as bad as the mechanics available to everyone that are complete memes
>>2190150Now? They have the whole world covered now.Dilate indians faggots.
>>2190983Yeah it's actually wild how much gaslighting there is with CK2. That game was memes incarnate and now people pretend it was somehow serious and gritty.
>>2190981My point is that the adventurer mechanic shouldn't exist in the fucking first place.
>>2190993Or at least it should be harder to become an adventurer.
>>2190987>>2190983What a stupid point, I regularly play CK2 WITH the absurd events and supernatural shit on and hardly see any of it, only if I'm playing nomads sometimes I'll see the horse event. This fact doesn't make the tech tied to culture any better btw, lick my balls
>>2190983you couldnt do even a 1/3 things in ck2 than you can in ck3
>>2190984>Oh, look, it's one of those "CK IS THE TRVE STRATEGY GAYM" faggots.Where did I say literally anything like that? CK2 as a strategy game is flawed compared to the other paradox titles, but as a bridge between strategy and roleplaying it's excellent. CK3 is literally just roleplaying with incredibly stripped down strategy mechanics and it makes both parts worse.>You can do a reliable world conquest in a span of 150-200 years, depending on your starting locationAll of which rely on you exploiting one of a handful of mechanics centred around combat and conquest in CK2 and for people who aren't deliberately trying to break the game there is actually mechanical challenge in trying to keep a country together and manage vassals.In CK3, the prerequisites for a WC are "exist". Vassal management is completely brainless, and player armies have such crushing advantage against the AI that war is totally pointless
people who VGH over how good CK2 is like to ignore that it's literally THE game that ruined Paradox and turned it into the shitheap it is now
Gonna extract this dodgy package, wish me luck.
>>2190986 (You)But paraslop is pozzed so very probably for the games end life.
>>2191009But enough about EU4
>>2191009but enough about MotE
The issue is, Paradox wanted to make a quirky RPG about fart battles, queer vikings, etc but used CK to do it and never expanded on the managing a feudal realm / dynasty mechanics. The scope of the game merely changed.
>>2191018nope, CK2 is the game where Paradox's business model changed from selling a finished game and then supporting it with a handful of expansions, to selling an unfinished game with an endless procession of DLC packs to plaster over the gaps
>>2191022ck2 was feature complete at launch
I miss how joining a monastic order had like an 80% chance to make you gay or depressed
>>2191033you can just pick the option that doesn't make you gay, you strawmanning nigger
>>2190532>>2190570Next DLC.
>>2191040that makes you depressed, dumbass
>>2190531It is chiner dlc not english teacher visa jeypan dlcNext year they will add new mechanics for indians and papuans and then next year new mechanics for siberian unga bungas and west african unga bungas and the next year new mechanics for tibet and korea and then next year new mechanics for east africans and non-han china and then next year new mechanics for sami and ainu and next year new mechanics for gays and lesbians and then next year new mechanics for hre (eastern europe doesn't get any dlcs because swedes still have sore anus over northern war and are nazis sp they don't differentiate people east of Elbe) and England France and Italy are probably good enough accirding to them
>>2190704>when the goyim didnt know
>>2190704This is the future that Sviatoslav prevented
>>2190704KUZARIM
is there a way to deal with the samurai governments always popping up as administrative japan or is it something you have to deal with for the whole game
>>2190367More ethnicites more racism!
>>2190367Someone should really do something about all these ethnicities
>>2190367I like that if you click randomise on whites you get goblins from Alabama while non-whites look fairly accurate
>>2191102Literally every single black person looks like a fat african american
>>2191103I don't play in the regions where I can't tell people apart (most southern point being northern Spain and most eastern point being parts of Rus not populated by fingollians)
Don't know what to call my Kingdom of the Philippines (I'm Spanish, I took it over as an Adventurer). I can't call it The Philippines because the dejure titles don't have "The" in their names when you have them like some titles do (i.e. the ruler of the Byzantine Empire has of "the Byzantine Empire" in his name, not just of Byzantine Empire)
>>2191110I thought the game had an option to have something at the start of a title?
>>2191110What's your character's name? Are you ambitious: name it after yourself, Tierra de AlfonsoIs he faithful? Name it after a Saint; Santiago is always popular Not sure? Name it after his home town/region, Nueva GaliciaSpain had one of largest colonial empires, there's plenty of examples to pick from
>AUH gets "Very Positive" on Steam with 600+ reviews巴萨多!
>>2190948>>2190942I'd say only thing they need done is to remove ability to hold men at arms from them, silly to have 1000 people move randomly and freely across the world, without any paythere are already mercs, no need for second mercenary mechanic
>>2190651One of the most interesting aspects of the middle ages are travel books from European adventurers going east and intellectual encounters between European medieval philosophy/science and Arabic/Persian thought(which I'm well aware owes big time to preserved greek books translated by Arab and Greek Christians living in the conquered Levant but still, it's interesting in its own right). East Asia if far removed from most of these, but one can make the case that a region can be included in the expanded medieval history if it was affected by one of the following events: the fall of Rome, the rise of Christianity, the rise of Islam, and the Mongol conquests.
>>2190007Never played Crusades. Always played in Asia so-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKFMF7iyDncI love me my China.My blood.My soulMy bone.
>>2191117Felipe. I just figured out if you form a confederation and then unite it, you get a "the" in your title.
>>2191128You don't get it in this dlcYou only have "combine X and Y cuisine" random event from adventuring dlc and that's it
>>2190564The same can be said for Waldensian and a bunch of the Christian sects
>Become the new Shogun>want to expand to Hokkaido>Need to pass Imperial Pacification to declare external wars>Realm needs to be at peace to Pass Imperial Pacification>Vassals never stop killing eachother despite having max realm lawSASUGA PARADOX!
Others think of Rome.I think of China.That glorious Empire that has stood for 5000 years.
>>2191151HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>2191149UuhhhhhhJust take away the swords, kurojin-kunWorked irl o algo
What is with japanese culture not punishing adultery?I somehow doubt that nobles were just banging eachother wives without repercusions.
Herro evelywan I RUUUUUUV PALADOXNo I no chinee I jus ruv paladox an I rub this update
>>21911514000 out of those 5000 years it laid under the boot of a Turk, a Mongol or a Manchu. Pretty much like the rest of the continent, except for Europe, until gunpowder became a thing.
>>2191151i wanted to like it like rome but then i saw they got conquered and ruled by foreigners for hundreds of years and they were just chill with it.mongols and then the manchus
>>2191160I’m not a weeb unlike most of the degenerates on this site but weren’t geishas normalised for pretty much everyone to use, married or not?
>>2191160No, they were buggering each other up the bum untill Hiroshima and NagasakiBig chunk of Heian poetry is about sekkusu and historically japs did not put that much negative on prostitution (unlike koreans who were turboincelic about it)
>>2191162>>2191164They've been dealt with. Pretty much either assimilated or only exist because China let's them.>>2191155Fell, rose and rose again and kept expanding what it meant to be Chinese.
>5 years after release>still takes over 3 minutes to launch the game
>>2191166>>2191168Fucking prostitutes is different from fucking married noblewomen.Family and blood are a big deal in confucian influenced societies.
>>2191164the racist theory doesnt hold up right? many empires got conquered and then the conquerors got dissolved in the higher culture of what they conquered. Rome and the greeks for example. Germanic tribes and rome. Ottomans and byzantium, did you know that they called themselves the inheritors of the roman empire after?
>>2191177vikings and english/frenchalexander the great did convert to the persian culture because it was much more advanced at the time
>>2191180He hybridized Hellenic with Persian.
>>2191140Yeah, then it sucks balls. While we are at it, CK3 really needs DLCs focused on high culture, books, intellectual pursuits, learning, universities, piety and religious orders.
>Give Mandala a go>Choose aspect of creation since its "probably just about building stuff and making artifacts or something">Leveling up your aspect requires you to build things, and father many children>Almost every problem your subjects have gets solved with your penis>Not even the men are safe from the holy rod of problem solvingIt's mildly entertaining to say the least. Definitely more engaging than normal feudal gameplay.
>>2191200FreeeeeeeeeNelson mandala
>Women have a weird neck seam where it looks like they're head is separated from their bodyAnyone know how to fix this?
>>2190863>here's a book by a dead orientalist on why China numba wangOkay, but why did Paradox never give a similar treatment to Italy, considering that for a significant part of CK3's timeframe it housed 1/4 of Europe's population and was richer and more literate than China, India, and the Middle East?
>>2191216Unzip the seam
>convert all of japan to shinto>all my vassals and courtiers dress accordingly>legit cant tell the difference between the men and women, or even what age someone is just by looking at themepic
>watching tarkusarkusar's review>brings up the point that paradox has a policy where they never make dlcs that are dependent on other dlcs>wonders if this means there will never be a dlc to expand on any of the new regions they added for all under heaven
>>2191256Become the emperor
>>2191164Unlike the romen who got conquered by the Germans and ruled by the Greek while economicly depending on middle eastern
>>2191307This is why all the changes to the map itself were included for free and the dlc just added specific mechanics for certain regions, cultures within the new areaThey could easily make a new DLC for certain Asian areas that would not need you to own AUHFucking midwit comment. I haven’t even tried the new DLC and even I fucking know that
>Esoteric Power tradition improves artifact quality results based on level of devotion>High level Mandala rulers can just 3D print illustrious artifacts for 100g each thanks to that traditionNeat.
So All Undear Heaven is just dogshitbig fucking surprise
I think they need implemented a slavery system especially for the middle east Oh and bastard turning to something more prominent because out my hundred hour's in the game I don't remember ever dealing with them
vgh
>>2191412>I think they need implemented a slavery system especially for the middle eastcool it with the anti-semitic remarks
>>2191022lol at the seething dusty
Why is the wiki always months behind?
>>2191507It's not official, just some guy runs it
Also laugh at the historical revisionism of calling release absolute state HoI3 and yellow Prussia V2 "finished".
>>2191515Only one dude edits it?
>>2191530https://central.paradoxwikis.com/Central:About>Magne "Meneth" Skjæran was the creator and first administrator of the wikis. The task is currently handled by SolSys. He is assisted by numerous volunteers. This is a list of those given some level of moderation ability.Look it. Publicly edited, too.
Character I was playing got cucked in Japan, and the event text said he still had a responsibility to care for his wife and there was no opinion loss, rival, etc. Brutal. Is that Japanese culture or because of the Buddhist religion?
>>2191581it's the pragmatic culture thing
>>2191581There was something similar for a while in early medieval france or england (i cant remember which) where the nobles at the time defined love as a Christian ideal and worth pursing, even under the reality of their marriages existing in a political world. As a result they considered being with multiple people even while being married as something noble. That shit died it quickly though, or rather it died out as it being Christian since everyone still did it but had to pretend it wasn't happening, so I assume something similar took place in Japan for the nobility but for longer without the argument for adultery in the bible.
>>2190497Like the Romans didn't have this?
>>2191731romans did it every 12 years
>>2191581People always underestimate how loose the Japanese were (and kind of still are) with sex. The whole 'night-crawling' thing isn't just some hentai invention, it was an actual part of their culture.
>>2191755Japan is the weirdest country on Earth when it comes to sex. Half the time they're conservative Confucians about it and the other half they're like island savages.
>Watch Bavarian's video>less than 10 minutes in and his Anglo-Saxon becomes Japanese the moment he steps on the islandShouldn't there at least be a language requirement to convert cultures?It doesn't make any sense
>>2191844I hadn't watched it, but I have noticed while viking-ing around that if I married one of my varangians to a japanese lady, the dudes will wear japanese armor even if no one's culture converted yet
>>2191844Google Miura Anjin.
>>2191844i think switching cultures is as easy as converting as an adventurer in ck3 but i dont remember exactlyas a lord its quite expensive
>>2191160>>2191174>>2191581
Played with Mandala for about 100 years now.Holy shit can you stack insane amounts of development with those guys. On top of that, you can easily switch from their tribal version with an extremely basic decision. It's feudal, but not shit and actually somewhat fun.
wtf
>100 culture acceptance to hybridize japanese with chineselmfao
>>2191854he did learn Japanese didn't he?
>>2190014I'm one of those players >anglo-Saxon>adventurer>Wessex, 867
Why is it that Chinese player bases are usually heavily catered to? Also, how is the gameplay in India now? What did all under heaven change? I wanted to try starting in india at some point in CK3.
Crusader Kangs
>>2190014Is this true? I never realized it but apparently I am a minority of player that always starts somewhere in the Middle East. I have actually never played British Isles. Is it because I am actually black in real life? Strangely, I've never played in Africa either.
>>2191581>>2191619>>2191755Cuckold culture
>>2191914Isn't that more or less meant for emulating Heian court shenanigans
>>2191865auschwitz kings 3
>>2191902Big market. Same. Nothing of relevance, some roundabout ways to do shit you could already do much easier. For what purpose?
>>2191902same reason Americans were pandered to for the first 40 years of video game development: they're the biggest market
>>2190876> and chances are, you were in preschool back then, eating your snotsI'm 32> Except nobody cares about crusades since CK2 came out.Wrong. People bought game named CRUSADER KINGS because of crusades and kings, not because of khans and chinks> Hell, even if you DO give a fuck about crusades, they are only fun when done ahistoricallyPartially correct. But only in the context that players want to fix the mistakes of the Crusades after the first one and make them successful, rather than turn them into a clown show.
>>2191934Don't be silly
>>2191938nta but "bought"? Sure, lmao. That said I don't mind world expanding if it brings something good to the game. And every time they did so it really didn't.
>>2191914Between this and the Maitreya memery every tradition they've added is pure reddit.
>>2191914Fucking LMAO literally the NTR culture trait. Oh your precious big titty japanese woman you are betrothed to? She will get fucked to orgasm by an ugly bastard 60 year old courtier and you will just have to take it.Anti-NTR crusder playthrough to remove this trait from Japan by gaining enough prestige to reform it out when?
>>2191938I'm not going through the mating ritual reply chain y'all doin but I for one loved playing in Tibet by the end of CK2's lifespan. Persia too. I liked taking the Saka to India as well.Having said that it'd be nice if Crusades felt comparable to stuff from the end of CK2, but maybe a lil less busted lol
>>2191944Soulmates don't cheat!
>>2191944just make your spouses your lovers and use the anti-tomcast espionage policy broand don't forget:you can always fuck his wife/wives in revenge. Without repercussion. Unless you're Shugendo I guess, they can be arrested for it, though that might require a Shugendo Kampaku/Shogun.
>>2191820From what I've seen, the conservative side is purely appearances. It's like, by all means be a sex maniac if you want, just don't *appear* to be a sex maniac or everyone will judge you or be pressured into judging you.
>>2190881> and for a whole lot of good reasonsYes, and that reason is that the developers refuse to add interesting mechanics for Christian crusaders.Where are the papal elections and the college of cardinals? Where is an adequate combat system that would make the Crusades more engaging?In the latest DLC, they introduced SEVEN new types of governments with their own unique mechanics, events, systems, and so on, but they have NOT A SINGLE DLC for crusaders. In a GAME ABOUT CRUSADERS.The reason is simple - soi developers are afraid of and hate Christianity because of their soi woke minds. Typical behavior for modern liberals.Their behavior strongly reminds me of the balls hurt 3 developers, who also did EVERYTHING POSSIBLE except make an interesting game. Because of this, we have a bunch of onions agenda in a game that is supposedly a continuation of what was once a great series.
>>2191951I'll remind you that a major-ass performance hit in CK2 was from daily checks made by the pope on every single character on the map for eligibility to be a Cardinal
I get like 20 fps at the lowest zoom level when I was getting 100 before, thanks you fucking retard devs
>>2191914someone make a culture that combines this with the french one that gives you renown each time you fuck a woman
>>2191954So what? There was also a major hit for every Greek pondering daily whether they can castrate a nigga.
>>2191963based
>>2191964No, not based. Not everyone is into mangling their genitals like you are.
>>2191970I could have added the words "spaghetti code" but I forgor, gomenasorry
Did a reclaim Korea campaign as the Kudara (Koran exile house in Japan), which was fine and all but I don't have the decision to form Korea or whatever. Probably because I'm Feudal. I don't want to lose the ceremonial monarchical title, I can only do it by create Empire. Sucks.
>>2191980自分で応募してください !
just found out that a huge reason why the samurai nobility took over after the heian nobility is because the fujiawara and the bureaucrats were so incompetent that despite there being no wars they somehow managed to increase banditry into it became a widespread systemic problem and regressed from an economy based on money back into a barter system since they had no idea how to mange it
>>2191920https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_adult_adoption>98% of all Japanese adoptions are employers adopting the adult men on their staff, not childrenThat shit never went away.
>>2191995wait what the fuck they adopt adults over there?
>>2191998You didn't know?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukoyōshi>Generally in Japan, a woman takes her husband's name and is adopted into his family. When a family, especially one with a well established business, has no male heir but has an unwed daughter of a suitable age, she will marry the mukoyōshi, a man chosen especially for his ability to run the family business.It's a... more calm response to having no male heirs than what Europe did.
>>2192001>will never be adopted into some ojou-sama's familyfeels bad man
>>2191998Bro... They did that in the west too, hell, it was almost the norm in rome and well into feudal age as well.
>>2191865clothing mods
So much butthurt about the Celestial Empire. Good.
>>2191960its only romance and it takes forever
>>2192019I wish it wouldn't fold instantly to any nomad with more than 3 horses and a loaf of stale bread.
>>2191652for the males having a mistress has been normal for the entirety of human history before feminism.for a woman it was often punishable by death just because of how much was depended on the correct bloodlines. Have ever thought about the nature of public consummation in ck3? maybe not, because they arent really showing it, just vaguely mention something about it.
>>2191755maybe in japan or china having a correct heir isnt as important just because they all look fucking same.
>>2192013You were born European, son.>oh fuck, I failed to produce a male heir, do I?..>treat women equally, like an African?>no>have multiple wives to increase my chances, like a Muslim?>no>adhere to a faith with unrestricted divorce, like Jewish or Dualism?>no>just find a good lad and adopt them, like Japanese or ancient Romans?>no>have succession wars, inbreeding, and church splitting?>perfect, millions must die.Barbarism is relative.
>>2192026That would be highly unhistorical
If I change the value for forming Admin realms from realm size = small_empire_size to, say, 40 would that work?
>>2192026its more the issue of the nomads in this dlcevery and each one of them is genghis khan
>>2192033I don't know what's worse, you thinking anyone in africa treats women equally right now let alone ~600+ years ago or if adoption, especially bastards or second cousins wasn't a thing.
>>2192033Europe no diffed all those peoples. Guess the Monogamy Thunderdome works.
>>2192036>every and each one of them is genghis khanWhat do you mean by that? You think every fucking nomad is just a battle lord conqueror in waiting?!
>>2192037Well, Abrahamic bullshit certainly ruined it.
>>2192041they shouldnt have access to the troops they have or be able to afford them
>>2192040Where Constantinople, btw?
>>2192042ibn battuta wrote about malian sex slaves in 14th century
>>2192048Conquered by the Anglos and graciously given to the Turks in the interest of post World War 1 harmony. The Turks managed to get in after it was softened up in Inter-European conflict. It happens.
>>2192053The fuck are you talking about
>>2189987Holt fucking BLOAT. Bloat update. Bloat dlc holy fuck.
>unify espana>setup republic vassals across india japan and china>money counter broke six months agoAlright. Now either to wait for the mod to remove these areas or make one myself.
>>2189987Now that the stupid gyoza ramen dlc is done, can we go back to adding stuff to europeMerchant republics are STILL not playable.
>Merchant republics are STILL not playable.Good.
>>2192099Faiths/Theocracies need attention much more IMOGenoa>Venice btw
>>2192101>Genoa>Venice btwYou're alright, fella.
>>2192101>i want to molest choirboys
Just 1 son is all I ask for, I beg of you
So, does anything at all matter in China apart from farming merit?Even candidacy score seems worthless to worry about, I never touched that shit and I'm king tier already.
>To unite Korea you need 50 provinces>There are 48 provinces in Korea (including the part that is modern day Korea but not De Jure Korea in game)Amazing.
>>2192116How did someone this dumb manage to post past captcha?
>>2192123I know you can expand outside of Korea, it's just a pain and makes ugly borders.
>>2192125Hey, you want to larp or avoid bodergore or whatever, I respect that. The game is significantly more fun and manageable if you don't blob anyway. But you said something else above.
Why am I not being given land to rule? I passed the exams but the emperor refuses to grant me land and it’s very slow farming merit with just an estate
>>2192123>simply physically uniting korea doesn't allow you to "unite korea"
>landcels
>>2192127Why, what else is in Korea that I'm missing? I have de jure Silla, Baekje, Goguryeo plus duchy of Woju.
>>2192135Take a real close look and you'll feel silly in a moment.
>>2192135not him but I'd check the de jure counties listed in each of the Korean kingdoms, it should list everything
>>2192130>he thinks you're guaranteed a job just because you've got a piece of paperSorry but the Emperor has exported your job to AI/India.
>>2192138>someone who knows how to playHoly shit. You're like a unicorn itt mate.
>>2192137>>2192138I have the two little islands if that's what you're referring to.
>>2192141almost 5k hours in 2 and 2.6k in 3 does that to youstill don't know all the nitty gritty of 2's unit compositions though. No need to know that outside highly specific memes.>>2192142check the kingdoms anyway, it might not just be the little islands you're thinking of
Wtf do I do as an Imperial Censor?Don't see any new decisions I can make or anything I can actually spend this gigantic treasury on.
>>2192142There's 44 counties in Samhan and 4 in Woju. making 48. I need 50 but hate Steppe scum so much.
There any way to swap off of meritocracy? Kind of getting annoyed by my house members losing land somehow to randoms. Better yet, is there a way to destroy houses that hold no land?
>>2192144Just embezzle it.
>>2192142I'm not but you wouldn't want me to spoil it for you, would you?
>>2192154Goodnight.
>>2192033>>have succession wars, inbreeding, and church splitting?>>perfect, millions must die.Europe was literally the most stable place in the world thanks to the monogamous primogeniture.Having lots of children with lots of different women sounds amazing until you realize they're spending every single moment of their lives trying to murder each other, and anybody being qualified to rule means the concept of legalism doesn't exist in your society.
>>2192156And a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you. Please tell me you figured it out, I did it as a wanderer for shits and giggles with no issues.
>>2192147estates are kind of fucking broken aren't they? Your entire wealth is coming from your domicile?
>>2192176I think the idea is that you have fertile soil and businesses like wine making or mining which are actually making the money, the estate just represents your private property across the kingdom
so you can just up and move a fully developed estate where ever you want like an adventurer? or what?
>>2192157>massacres pagans>massacres fellow christians>and some massacring of muslims as a treatI don't know what the fuck definition of "stable" you're using there, buddy.
>>2192204I'm not reading the entire image but crusades did help prop up some trade in the east, thirst for goods, whatever logistics went into pilgrimages and templars or whoever else the french burnedand it's worth noting that the greeks slaughtered catholics "in recent memory" prior to the 4th crusade. Not to excuse it, but there was preexisting animosity that warrants mention. Not an out of the blue "lets sack dis shit bois" thing.
>>2192208>let me about talk history>here's some history>I ain't reading all that shitSasuga, brainlet.
>>2192210yes
>giving away random cities to holy ordersDo they also take away my city taxes? Is this a trap?
>>2192204Don't forget about the Hussite Wars.Five crusades against the Protestants. FIVE, CHARLEMAGNE, FIVE!And all of them failed, by the way.
>>2191652>That shit died it quickly though, or rather it died out as it being Christian.Wasn't that because of the whole Romen tradition becoming religious doctrine and the tradition not having concrete rules made things vague?
>>2192196kek
>>2192203you cant move outside of the nation you started in. I dont know what happens if you get full conquered.
>>2192204as with many things it became shit in the sequel
>>2192216its not a trap, they still pay you, on top of them being free to hire. its really good.
>>2192216It can be. It's also really good if you leverage them. Also, give them castles instead.
I will become the cabbage King of China and none of you can stop me.
Starting as an adventurer in transoxiana fucking sucks
>>2192130you farm merit by attending and helping to administer every possible local exam. if you're in a big peaceful china (like 1066 song) the competition for any given title is too high, so generally you need to be higher than the minimum merit rank to get a particular tier of title. depending on the state of the dynastic cycle and the realm setup, usually one of the military or civilian career paths will be way less competitive (easier) than the other
>>2192293Makes me understand why mongols came and kicked their teeth in
Anyone know why the Divine Bhakti decision isn't showing up? Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong?Also, any recs for names/tenets for a custom hindu/buddhist faith based in Cambodia?
tfw when you coerce your 2 Ethiopian sister concubines to lez out with each other
>>2192365
>>2192367
>>2192292ok Timur
>keep getting recommended Japanese vtubers playing CK3>Auto-dubbedThat's not good.
>>2192399Do you even understand Japanese?
>>2192399you can turn it off at least but it'd be fucking swell if it stayed off by default
>>2192403Of course not. But I get AI voice auto-translation, I guess?
>>2192406wait til you get flashbanged by something you didn't realize was autodub that starts failing to keep up with song lyrics
>>2192351'Attentionwhores'
>>2190082>they did a lot of sailing and conversionsyeah thats true but funnily enough, it was Chinese muslims and some arab traders that converted them.Similar thing with the Central Asian turks. Most of them were only nominally muslim. It was the RUSSIANS of all people that converted them to islam specifically. Really interesting part of history.
>>2192109why do you need a son?
Alright Nestorianism or Manichaeism?
>>2192439Manichaeism for esoteric wuxia larp
>>2189987does Cream Api really work?I find it strange it hasn't been taken down from Github
>>2192434>Really interesting part of historyYeah but what you're saying sounds like a load of crap to me. Where'd you read this? afak Khwarazmians and then Mongols spread islam more than anyone in central asia, as for Indonesia I heard it came from Persia thru India ie spice traders well before Zhang He has his expedition.
The true power of nepotism...
Is China actually fun?
>>2192449I still really want to see what ethnic Africans or Papuans look like in the geisha makeup
>>2192447hm you might be right, i was just going off what I read a while ago and recalling it off the top of my head. As for the russian stuff this is what I found: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Kazakhstan#Russian_Imperial_Periodbut as you said most of them were already muslim its just that they still lived like nomads mostly and russia sent in a bunch of Volga Bulgars in to sort of organize them more i think. I don't know.I must have gotten the Zheng He bit from Reddit misinfo.
>>2191458How is this supposed to even work out?You're a whole giant body of water away from the main island. You can't properly rule over it.You'd likely end up needing like two shogun tier rulers in charge of both places while under the Emperor, but at that point it might as well just be two completely different countries still, and it would be easy for them to just break like that into independence.
>>2191914I know what I'm going to do first time I play this shit. Completely eradicate the Yamato culture and the whole of their Imperial family then reform the whole island, first in culture so it no longer has that shit, then in faith were male and female adultery is considered criminal so that whores can be hanged for it, but either concubinage or multiple spouses is allowed just so it can't give them any further reason as to claim they didn't have enough pussy to choose from.
>>2192204>plays a christian game>posts anti-christian propaganda
>>2192487>christian game
>>2192457Brother scroll up. There's almost a 1000 year gap between the first Caliphate and the Russian Empire. As for east asia I honestly don't know but I'd assume it spread from even by then ancient sea trade lanes that passed thru Egypt and the middle east in general which was dominated by muslims at that time. And this is the first time I heard china made an effort to spread a religion that wasn't and still isn't widely represented in their own county on those few expeditions they mounted and then said, screw it, we're staying home for good. All kind of weird ass religions and sects came out of India tho.
>>2192487
Why in the actual hell don't japs and chinks have concubines instead of polygamy?
>>2192521>"Yes, high-ranking men in historical Japan, particularly nobles and samurai, frequently had multiple wives and/or concubines, a practice known as polygyny, with the main wife having a higher status. This system was officially outlawed in the post-World War II era">"Official vs. unofficial partners: Historically, a man's principal wife, known as the seishitsu, was the most important. However, it was also common for men to have other partners, called sokushitsu or concubines, to ensure a male heir or for other reasons."Technically, you should be allowed to have both. Like, a main wife, then secondary wives, and concubines which which would be on the lowest of ranks and can just easily be dismissed whenever you please.Ck3, however, same as with Ck2, does not allow you to have both polygamy and concubinage combined together. You can either only have polygamy or concubinage. They went the route of giving Japs the OG thing they did where they would have a main wife then secondary ones similar to Muslims, then kept the "having up to 20 concubines at once" to the Chinese Emperor. mods will fix
>>2192525Bet your ass I'll fix it in my game. And now to go down the muslim cultures to remove "tolerance" and "gender equality".
>>2192537>I'll fix it in my gamepretty sure it's hard coded that you can't take any form or religious or cultural traditions that are both polyamorous or have concubines, only one of them can be chosen, and once you commit to it, you can't chose the other, but sure, you can try. maybe install the 5 faith tenets mod as well just for some extra shit you could add to it.
>>2192525Not him but oddly enough my family interface thing for a character SEEMED to be stretching itself to accommodate both polygamous wives and concubines. I forgot the conditions for it, but it was in vanilla after update landed. I was able to undo it but I forgot how, I should have seen if it was possible to have uh I think that'd be 4 wives and 3 concubines.
>>2192539Huh, then maybe they changed it somehow and restrictions were lifted or relaxed a bit. Dunno then. I just know you normally can't do both.
>>2192539I forgot to say since it might have context clues on recreation: I was slowly turning from a Norse adventurer into Japanese/Shugendo turboweeb, possibly into Kampaku, I'm not sure.>>2192540>I just know you normally can't do bothI can say the interface looked like it was bugging out, it looked like it was going to cause an issue at the time hence addressing it without thinking. Had console open so I was fucking around with something.
>>2192540They didn't and you can't. I'll just give them concubines instead,
>>2192537I love whenever I see libs say that Muslim empires were "tolerant" because they had the Jizya tax
Wait, what the fuck?Islam has a specific Reincarnation tenet called "Raj'a"... I didn't even realize that.Though it feels like a bit of a stretch when looking up what it means>"a doctrine in Shia Islam positing that some of the dead will return to life before the Resurrection to avenge their oppression."I mean, that is sort of what resurrection entails, but within the game's description of it, it refers to the idea of people having lived various lives before and that they will get to live more after the death of their current body, not specifically about coming back to life in the same body after death at some point.
>>2192525You can mod cultures/religions to have both polygamy and concubines but the UI bugs out and will only display wives.you can use Character UI Overhaul to fix ithttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2519175282
>>2191865I encountered one of these.
>>2192550I love that almost as much as I love seeing accepted cuckoldry and homosexuality across most of the world. In 1100s.Try fucking some desi thot and then slapping her moustached husband on the ass. See what happens next lmao.
How mad do you think the Asia Expansion Mod makers are?
Behold, one of the wonders of the world. Truly the divine, careful, meticulous, work of the creator Himself was at hand when he lovingly sculpted this square marvel of nature. The men of my company will surely never forget this sight for as long as they live on God's blessed earth.
>>2192576wtf that water is floating niggathere's dark magic shit going on there
Well? How's the new map update?
>>2192576Please understand, small indie dev.
What the fuck are the Forgiving and Compassionate traits even good for if it just makes it so so can't take any action whatsoever without incurring massive bouts of stress?
>>2192586You know you don't HAVE to play as a dick? Now shy? Yeah, fuck that shit.
>>2192588>diligent/shy/paranoidis there a bigger "just fuck my shit up" combo?
>>2192589Shy/trusting/chaste?Forgiving is great tho. Free no cooldown, no cost stress removal on demand? As if stress is a problem unless you lose 20 children in a month. Compassionate is a bit shit but larp a decent person for once, and if it's a virtue that's a nice general opinion boost.
I've never really paid attention to personality traits, what are the best ones?
Silly sod
>>2192613>pick Lazy>pick Shy>pick Paranoid>die
>>2192589At least diligent has uses.
>>2192634devlop capital intensifies
If you are chinese and have dilligent every single local exam is a big stress dump.
>"Hmmm, today I will go for the heavenly kingdom">Need a Christian holy site to declare myself head of faith of my diverged Christianity flavor>All holy sites are across the fucking ocean>Can't declare war because shifting eras takes agesThis is not as straightforward as I thought it would be.
>>2192659It’s easier to become the head of faith first. I think Nestorianism has a holy site in India. Wondering if the head of faith title supersedes the Hungdi title for the Emperor of China.
Is there a mod to remove central africa, india, and southeast asia yet? I dont give a single fuck about any of these regions.
>start in europe>travel to japan and pick up a good looking woman>return to europe with my hapa kids and play normal
>>2190704>>2190708>>2190709>>2190716>>2190732>play in 867>get retarded resultsDeserved for being a 0 iq moron
>>2190704You can counter all that trash with horse archers.
>>2192682>New unit type gets added with AUH>It counters heavy infantry only>Chinese crossbow units no longer counter archer cav>Archer cav counter remains sparse, with the only reliable counter to them early to mid game being other nomadsThanks Paradox, very cool.
>>2191938Take a shower you smell like shit poo boy
>be hostile or evil to other big religions>they crusade youWhat's the point?
>>2192664I found a somewhat painless way to do it. I still had a save from when I did the Haestein run, so I made a stop in India at that holy site, spammed pilgrimages for piety, made a diverged faith of Nestorianism, then continued to China and invaded.Still had to reload several times because random Muslims in the levant succeeded with their 20% murder schemes.I think I will tackle the Japanese achievements next. I have yet to play there.
>new posts in tech support subforum insisting that ck3 can still hard-freeze PCs after AUH dropped
>be me>diligent, just, and content steward in the Tang Empire>decide to focus purely on merit>spend 5 years studying for the exams like a nerd>finally pass the palace exam>get summoned by the emperor himself>ohshit.jpg>rewarded with my first appointment: a mountain county with 0 development and 0 control>tfw it’s literally a goat village>whatever, time to fix this dump>build it up, convert the locals, restore order>emperor notices again>“for your good deeds, I’m assigning you to a duchy hit by an earthquake”>ohboyherewegoagain.png>diligently rebuild duchy>notice I can build a special palace with massive buffs>build palace and exam hall, exams now cost 0 gold>duchy becomes richest in the empire>emperor starts getting jealous because I make more money than him>summons me again>“for your great service, I promote you to a kingdom”>finally.jpg>it’s Shandong>main victim of the earthquake, half the land in ruins>income immediately goes negative, forced to disband MAA>emperor dies the same year>empire collapses into warring states>I’m stuck ruling the weakest kingdom>my old duchy neighbor now the richest power in China>its now up to my twin sons - the first a quick, inteligent administrator and the other a litereal drooling retard who atleast has good martial - to reunify chinaI had to stop since i was already playing for 12h and will continue tommorow, but holy shit this is the most fun ive ever had
>>2192811Welcome to gaming on Win11.
>>2192816one of them was claiming to experience it under Linux, fuck knows what that means anymore
SEA is rich with plunder if you're playing a viking
>>2192883
>>2192884Langfanghalla... Home
Is this shit broken? my Soryo vassals(all of them) won't stop starting new wars between themselves.
>>2192613The worst ones have more effect on you than the best ones. Like people have been saying, shy compassionate and paranoid all either make doing actions normal in ruling harder to do or make life more difficult for you in general (paranoid and compassionate give you strsss from anything, shy doesn’t let you lower stress from easy to spam events ect)
>>2192896I saw that having this supposedly prevents your vassals from being able to convert themselves to the samurai type is that true or have they been still doing that? Wanna know before trying to make an administrative Japan or just not bother from the start and go for shogun
>>2192026867 tang and 1178 song are supposed to get shit on quickly anyway, and in my game so far 1066 song has survived with no issues up to mongols
>>2192909I didn't even bother fighting the conversion wave but if it's supposed to do that then I bet it's broken.
I wonder if Elder Kings will use the ceremonial monarch thing. I guess it could for the Mane in Elswyr, but even then that works differently because it’s a new Mane (potential unrelated to the previous) each time. Maybe form Tamriel, then switch to some nobody and slap the Emperor in the cuck chair and rule the Empire as the High Chancellor
>>2192913reddit tier mod, same as AtE
>>2192917Elder Kings is actually really high quality though unlike AtE which is more redditslop.
>>2192896Yes it's broken, making it impossible to establish peace in Japan.
>>2192926I'm willing to bet that Soryo and Ritsuryo actually aren't being considered either Feudal or Administrative so even editing the files will not work until they somehow flag those two as something.I tried editing the files and nothing worked.
Alright, brought my self-insert from a landless courtier to a minister of the celestial empire through merit alone, so I'm only one step below the emperor now. How do I actually become emperor from this point? AFAIK, the hegemony title is passed down to the emperor's family members.
>>2192933the current dynasty has to collapse and you have to reunite china
>>2192913Perhaps it could be used for Alinor, somehow. High King is supposed to be mostly ceremonial position, dealing with religion and court stuff. By the time of ESO, old king dies and princess Ayrenn does her own Meji Restoration. It seems Altmer later have more kings that don't do anything outside of the Summerset. There's no clear Shogun though.
Is it normal for the House Blocs in Japan just to stop existing with little warning?
They nerfed the nomads even further in this DLC, by the way.They've reduced the horse-to-horde conversion in almost all sources. Where it used to be 10-20%, now it's a modest 2-5%.
>>2192910> 867 tang and 1178 song are supposed to get shit on quickly anywayWhy so?Is it historically accurate that the Tang dynasty fell apart into dozens of states in those years or what?
What is the point of having land when being landless you can support tens of thousands of troops and still have thousands of gold and the second you get land all of a sudden your loyal soldiers refuse to stay with you unless you pay out the ass
>>2192917setting aside the kick-me signs that they firmly maintain on their back that may as well be a litmus test for their own devs and whoever joins their d*scord, I think it's safely well above r*ddit standards. Even the weird shit they did with lilmothiit sexuality is more in the vein of "mod's not so thinly veiled fetish" rather than "thank you kind stranger" horseshit
>>2192954the Tang Dynasty collapsed into one of the most disunited states China has ever been in 40 years after the 867 start
Japanese waifu secured!
>Zhengyi Dao has an uninterrupted lines of heads of faith / Celestial Masters going back to the 2nd century>No head of faith title at game start, had to be made by the player …? I thought they said they did tons of historic research for titles.
>if you go to character creature japanese girls are kinda cute>go in game and they become ugly as hell with a million pounds of makeup and clothing
>>2193029don't forget, next to none of them have big boobs
should I take my european chad to japan and colonize or bring japanese women to europe
>>2193040yes
>be adventurer>a few years after start>think of finding a cute wife>suddenly out of nowhere a cute norwegian girl appearsI don't know what are the odds for that.
>>2193029You're at the mercy of RNG
>>2193029Can you see the black teeth in game? That's court fashion lmao.
>>2192814idk man, i kind of lose interest when i'm just randomly switched between provinces like that.what's even the point in developing them at that point if you're not even meant to get attached to them or whatever. might as well not do any work then and just siphon treasure out into your personal savings.
>>2193029game put my character in drag when playing as japanese culture. absolutely digusting. had to go into settings and take the tranny makeup off their manly faces.
>>2193035yeah that's cause japanese women are generally thin and supple with smaller breasts, not fat cows with giant udders like american ones are.
>>2193071>might as well not do any work then and just siphon treasure out into your personal savings.Sounds oddly historical.
>>2192814>grips hands>mutter to myself>"this is reddit, this is reddit">see only redThere are so many things I want to say to you right now.
>>2193081It was a massive problem in China where big landowners refused to pay tax too but the tax had to be collected. So it was dumped on the rest of the district. Plus officials increased miscellaneous fee to enrich themselves. And since officials were all big landowners nothing ever got done about it.
Does the music actually help you immerse or do you just turn it off?I made a somewhat bad habit at some point of just turning it off and listening to other shit in the background like podcasts and it feels like that did end up kind of just taking away from the game.
LOL!!!!!!! XDDD
>>2193083why are u gay?
I got a free weekend notification on steam for crusader kings 3 should i play it
man what the fuck is this trannny shit???
>>2193106Grim
>>2193106LMAAAAOOOOOOOO
>>2193022Yeah, tons of research...
I. Can. Fix. Her.>>2193106They historically mocked that emperor for being "woman-like" in his character. Paradox jumped at the chance of having muh wymen in power.
>>2193106>actually you see, transgenderism and transgender surgeries go all the way back to roman times, so theyre as trad as your entire roman empire, chud ;)
I wonder when they're going to declare eunuchs to be trannies for their agenda? Zheng He the tranny.
>>2193116>new innovation discovered>gender transition surgery>let's you change your gender once in a lifetime at the price of gold, prestige and faith
>>2193120Mother of Chinese history everyone.
>>2193120>once
>>2193122bro, what the fuck.......
>>2193127how are you supposed to go back to being a man after you already chopped off your cock to try and be a woman?
>>2193106niggas in this thread actually defending the absolute degenerate helogabalus was
>>2193131Dunno. Ask tumblr to elaborate.
>>2193029Has anyone made an ethnic African or Papuan with Jap culture to see how they look with the makeup?I would have done it myself immediately but I’m 2,000 miles from my desk
>>2193122I read that they were still doing this in the Qing Empire as it fell and that Henry Puyi said they didn't really think about it because they were Chinks and he was a Manchu (obviously the Han did that to eachother).
>u gayer
are you still not allowed to shift holy sites?
Has anybody played in SEA yet? How is it?>>2193106For me its how they say "Oh """"she"""" wasn't as bad as the books say cause of biases!" but at the same time cheer that he was a tranny from the same source material.
>>2193114Explain why this isn't an improvement.
>>2193106Romans would be laughing their asses off if they saw this. They made up stories about him being a man-whore to slander him.
>>2193278>>2193114you're fucking racist
remove occident
>>2193281Among other things, yes. About the map tho?>>2193282Nah, I want to larp portugese. But Siberia and Amur are next on the chopping block.
>>2193283Leave Siberia and Amur but hard code it so Russia takes them.
>>2193284That kind of Russia doesn't enter the chat for some 600 years.
>>2193292He says he wants to larp as the Portuguese empire.
>>2193293He could've waited a week for that.
>>2193301Two weeks, actually, when you account for how long it will take to get to 1492 from 1337.
>>2193293That's me anon. Portuguese started expanding around 1400s, which is a strech, but I usually play in that region anyway and seems like a nice enough goal to strive for. Russia annexed Siberia between 1581 and 1778 and while it's very easy do make it de jure Hedge of Putinia I have zero interest in playing in that region.But seriously, what do you believe those subsaharan or siberian regions bring to the game other than bloat?
>>2193310>what do you believe those subsaharan or siberian regions bring to the game other than bloat?Land for me to take my Anglo adventurer to and form Rhodesia.
>>2193314That area is being added in the next dlc.
I unified China, now what?
>>2193365That's it. You've won. You're in the end game
>>2193365Invade Korean and Japan.Give them to your children to rule over.Watch what happens and how that whole thing goes.
>>2193365>shit dog dynasty
>>2193365It's ugly. Let it collapse, lose the mandate of heaven to some other family, then steal it back and unify it again with a better color.
>>2193365>unified China>>unified-5000 social credit
>>2193365why are you black?
How do I make sure the Empire collapses if I die as Greatest of Khans? Every time I've seen it happen, the Khaganate stays united for generations
>>2193423Why would you want your empire to collapse?
>>2193393That's racist
>>2193425To see what fills the cracks.
>>2193431Building Based Countries.
>>2193431bro u gay
Anyone tried turning China into a Matriarchy yet?
>>2193278If CK3 were a real game I would rather have Mali on the map than anything east of Persia
>>2193455Hey, you do you. I honestly can't see anything of value being lost with those regions. Now to see what I can do about tibet, siam and 'nam.
>>2193475Might as well remove Berber lands IMO. just Egypt is enough for Africa.
>>2193475It's still astounding to me that they insisted on adding India and I haven't seen anyone ever play there.At least with Africa you have>gold mines>fun tribal gameplay>religion to reform>bbc conquering europe playthroughIndia has nothing.
>>2193482india has jewish colonies that you can play and use to take over the country with, lol
>>2193479I like that coast honestly. Just want to get rid of what I'm considering uninteresting bloat anon, I'm not on a crusade here. That's what the actual game is for.>>2193482Yeah. Unless it's a viking empire of Bombay or some such shit. At least you get to conquer them with mongols and play as mughals or something.
>>2189987Holy mogged
Viking weeb campaign complete
Do I bother pirating the DLC now or is it really broken?
>>2193526>not supporting the devs
>>2193524>campaign completeyou forgot to take over hokkaido where the ainu are.
Should I continue this campaign? It feels too grindy and not challenging. I am Bavandid.
>>2193524>EmperorDid you just overrun them, or can you somehow become Emperor through the system?
>>2193542Swore fealty and immediately claimed throne
>>2193540wtf your character looks like matt walsh
>>2193479>Might as well remove Berber lands IMO.Europeans had more than enough interactions with North Africans in this time period to justify the region's presence in the game.
>>2193524>converting to Shinto and partially adopting their culture>not Christianising them>not even making your own hybrid Christian faith with you as head of faithYou failed, anon.
>>2193552This.
damn they saghttps://files.catbox.moe/o96a84.JPG
Is there any way to get Christianity to Japan without being an adventurer?
>>2193553>Chr*stcuckery>As a vikang adventurersee >>2192196
>>2193553Bro, he started as Jarl Haesteinn, he's a Redditor.
>>2193562Why is he associated with plebbit again?
>new expansion>new runhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RZ50TuPuXY&list=RD-GiFoOR9CeM&index=27
>>2193035>>2193079That was mostly the result of their traditional diet, which was very much lacking in meat and fat. After WWII, when they finally starting eating a lot of meat, fat and dairy, their udders grew very rapidly.
>Japan discussion>China discussion>no fucking Philippines discussionWhat the fuck? How are the Pilipinas?
>>2193016>Japanese waifu secured!Too much Yayoi; not enough Jomon. The ideal waifu should have a balanced mix of the two.
>>2193572Unironically who even gives a crap
If you split the Roman Hegemony, both West and East become Hegemonies. When you form Rome, HRE reverts to Germania and European Byzantium splits up into Ilyria and Macedon (Asian Byzantium becomes Anatolia)
>>2193583I do. I'm engaged in a LDR to a Filipina (Bisayan), and I'm interested in the histories of her people.
>>2193606Tough luck anon. But enjoy your rice and boiled rat dinner.
>want to play After the End for ck3>the sideways map gives me a huge ickwhat do
>>2190985I wish that was the peak worst thing CK2 did.Once secret societies were added and epidemics were re-worked, the game became meme fest. It wasn't until Iron Crown that they sorted shit out, but it was too little, too late, and big reason why corresponding in time PDX releases were meme fodder was due to CK2 reaching gonzo-tier and still being heavily played
>>2190998Yeah, like you couldn't actually have a dynastic play in a game about building dynasty, but you could be rising a literal antichrist via a coven of witches.CK2 was truly the most serious and considerate game ever made by PDX and people claiming otherwise are probably secretly zaratustrianism supporters
>>2193620>Want to play shitty meme mod>That never truly was adjusted for 3 in the first placeWhy?
>>2193620You can fuck with the camera controls in the settings to fix the map.
>>2193641i'm already playing a shitty meme game, why not go all the way?
>>2193666
>>2193559>Change Crusade Target: Nihon Seriously though assuming you want to convert as a Jap, you need to hope some rando exile gets into your diplo range, which you can filter for in the character search. Not sure how hard conquering with Japs is but taking some random SEA island might help get you in range, even if you have to island hop to the Maldives or something. Once you invite them you can either go down the theocratic focus that lets you convert more cheaply, hopefully be cynical, make them your wife and convert. Or if that isn’t feasible just have them educate your heir, CK3 puts you in complete control of what gets converted and you can just check a box to convert religion and not culture.Then you can Banzai to the Holy Land and make the Templars a Samurai Holy Order.
>>2193679Wouldn't every crusader die of attrition?
>>2193559Don't know about christianity but I got offered a chance to convert to judaism after a mental break.
>>2193572I really don't care.They're basically the Indians of East Asia.I treat them the exact same way, as in, forget they even exist at all and want to have nothing to do with them, usually not even raiding at all.
>ck3 wiki SPLIT every single entry for the faiths into different sites you can't access directly and have to manually look up instead of just having it condensed into the 'Faiths' site like before>have to specifically search "Pagan Faiths" , "Sinitic Faiths", "Abrahamic" faiths now before the "CK3" prefix to be directed to them.They'll probably fix it eventually and just have it link there properly from the main "Faiths" wiki site but this annoyed me a bit cause I couldn't find any more proper info until I figured this out.
>>2193696Paradox wikis have really gone down hill in the past couple of years. They used to have everything, perfectly up to date and in an easily readable format. Feels like the soul of Paradox games has gone now. Nobody cares about them, they're just vehicles for content creators to plug DLC for paradox.
>>2193680If I could make Xia work pre AUH I’m sure the AI could handle a coastal target.
Why am I unable to appoint myself in any succession for any county?
>>2193715Gay, dumb, illiterate... Could be any of those thoughbeit.
I wonder if you can go meritocratic without starting as it. I want to take a Han adventurer and bring civilisation to Africa as a meritocratic regime but that doesn't seem possible from my testing.
>>2193572Playing as majapahit, I literally just played tall, never declaring war, fucking people with my aspect of creation missions and before I know it, I already got pinoy as my vassal, not tributaries, but vassal.Is mandala the new tall/pacifist playstyle?
>>2193620Mod sucks dick, anon. You're not missing out. The only good ones I've found so far are Godherja, ASOIAF, and Fallen Eagle.
>>2193100that's his opinion about you
Time to play my second favorite Shogun TW clan
>>2193761actually fuck it, we're christianizing japan
>>2193758yea but why?
>>2193753>Fallen EagleSpeaking of that.... Now that China and all that other shit was added, how are they going to be dealing with that mod?Are they actually going to expand into those zones as well and research the culture as far back as then to add flavor or like... just not use it at all?
shit is unplayable, each day ive started a new campaign and quickly ran into a new bug that just ruins my motivation to play.today I played japan, force retirement doesn't pass the province to next candidate, instead it gives the province to the regent and adds a bunch of new candidates which 5x the inheritance cost. then the retarded regent just gives the province to one of the two duchy titles in the north regardless of where the province is located. Did this three times with myself as #1 candidate, only to get fucked every time. succession only function through death, murder or natural. Also diplo is OP, I'm not even diplo I only took the befriend perk, befriend the regent and accepts all my force retirements. If only the mechanic actually worked.
Why haven't they included naval battles yet and being able to own your own flag ship that you can dump gold into and upgrade like how camps are with various shit to either make it more effective in combat, or increase it's naval speed, or make it so the disembark penalty time is cut shorter or just negated altogether?
>>2193806Probably not even use it at all. There's no history that dates back to 500AD in the Far East, and places like the Philippines didn't even have any semblance of government or tribe back then.
Japan only plays like 3 songs I think
>>2193475Link to the mod that removes central africa? Also is there one that removes India and southeast asia?
>Can't get Samurai if you restore direct imperial ruleseems like the only way of getting the bushido culture is just wait that the AI establishes a shogunate, or just doing it yourself then switching to the emperor, deposing the shogun is really easy thankfully no need to do a big war.Also the only way of getting your vassals of constantly being at war with eachother is by having everyone in your block, and I do mean everyone.
Is humility aspiration and piety in general useless for japs? Every decision I've seen uses money or prestige and none of the religions have a leader
>>2193838Don't remove the Philippines.
>>2193864I'm doing it.
Is Ryukyu too far to become a tributary to China? I have the option to click it but it doesn't seem to do anything.
>>2193843Can you explain this to someone that won’t have access for another week? Is Samurai a cultural innovation that needs the Shogunate to exist to unlock?
come on dude, the pope is in my dungeons already. just let me take the tiara off of him.
okay further testing in japan, the entire system is broken, for some reason the regent begins with 1/1 province cap like every other admin gov on the island, then over time it increases (so far ive seen 3 but prob goes higher), then he starts inheriting counties, some through conquering and others i think via retirement not death, then he (1) sometimes hands out via ennoblement, (2) he creates a soryo then later within a few years declares war on them and appoints a random ritsuyo. (3) creates a soryo then grants the title to one of the 2 dukes in the north for no apparent reason then someone (sometimes regent) declares war and forces ritsuyo.so it could have been inherited via candidacy but instead it goes through the regent who does some random bullshit with it, just so it can end up with a random ennobled ritsuyo down the line, what is even the point of the candidates? did they even test this?
>>2193885why can't you stop thinking about this bullshit and just have fun? jfc
>>2193888who says im not having fun you fucking retard, im sorry for trying to use the systems in the game only to be fed completely undercooked garbage making all decisions inconsequential.
>>2193888not him but it's not very enjoyable for a system to be steaming pile for reasons more related to how the game runs in practice than to some plausible historic basis. I've seen the kampaku grant shit at the two northern duchies as well that shouldn't be in there. Hell I'll be taking a norse to peaceably set up a Soryo in northern Japan to park my ass down and read poetry and compete with other fornicators to see who can knock up a particular count's wives the most and I fully expect it to be bugged to hell in a way that hampers my not autism.
Kino
>>2193761Is that even the Shimazu clan? There is no Satsuma clan in Shogun 2. Fall of the Samurai has the Shimazu clan ruling the Satsuma DOMAIN. I don't think the Shimazu clan even existed during 1066. Or any of the start dates.
>>2193950FotS is a Shogun 2 expac
>>2193955Yes, but in FotS you are not playing as the "Satsuma clan". You are playing as Satsuma Domain ruled by the Shimazu clan.
>>2193950Wikipedia says the shimazu were founded in 1196.
>>2193962Wonder if they can appear as a generated cadet branch of the Minamoto.
>>2193965best you'll get is izumi-minamoto
am I retarded or is there no way to lock japan to ritsuryou? kind of annoying having eternal whack-a-mole with souryou
what a horrible trio of kings
>>2190014No surpriseWho the fuck cares about ching chong, ting ling or Muhammad Muhammad?
>>2190047I play on the old version so I have no china at all
>>2193947Oh that’s interesting. Is he locked to county only vassals, too?
>>2193788Because you're a nomad?This is a standard debuff for all nomadic governments.
>>2193788because nomads shouldn't be negotiating with settleoids, you should be killing them
>>2192589Diligent is incredibly good thoughShy is terrible though
>>2192589paranoid + kind means multiple events are literally guaranteed to give you stress
>>2193994Kino. Makes for a good story.
classic byzantium moment
>>2190484>Actually exitsing killpeopleismSo since I am le poor (and won't pirate) decided to do a frenchoid House GoodGuys run. Game ended when my entire family died after getting kicked out of France into Corsica. i decided to have my last chick kill herself and end the run there, though there were cadet branches in Valencia, Languedoc (bastards) and Badajoz. Also burn Paris to the ground.I'm going to get RtP and Royal Court and then wait for RICE to update for a Christian adventurer from Yurop into Emperor of India by way of Sokotra.In the meantime, probably going to play Byzzies.
>>2194300Sadly Christians can’t unite India you have to have a Dharmic faith.
>>2194350I mean, the decision get's you an Empire title that's De jure over all of Inida, but can't you just form an Empire title the old fashioned way?
I gave all 3 regions a go now.China still has a ton of bugs, otherwise a more fun Byzantine empire to play in, which is very neat.Japan was probably the most interesting to play in initially with the whole house bloc mechanic, but there is literally nothing else to do once you establish the shogunate.South East Asia with mandala governments has absurd levels of development growth for some reason. We are talking 50 dev by 920 in the middle of the fucking jungle out of nothing. I do however like the way they upgrade their temple complex as you have to fulfill specific challenges tied to your chosen aspect, which uses the same challenges to upgrade as well.It really depends how fast Paradox can fix those issues and improve how it interacts with the other expansions. Once they get on top of that, AUH is the best expansion CK3 has ever gotten.
>>2193880Time for CreamAPI
>go the merit route and be a cuck goy for 50 years (spent the whole day on this) >finally get rank 1 with the highest appointment score, become the most powerful family >become the regent but i cant overthrow the hegemon cuz the scale of power can never get to level 6 i dont get it, whats the point of the coup mechanic if the AI will constantly cuck mei wasted a dynastic cycle just so that i could try to become a hegemon through peaceful means, but it appears i should have been a total war chad and i shoulda allowed the realm to fall apart
>>2194421Only way to reliably overthrow as a regent is to kidnap your liege to prevent him from swinging the scales. That, or get lucky with that one event which makes you give your liege brain damage.
>>2194380>more fun Byzantine empire to play inDo elaborate. Administrative is by far the worst and the most tedious gov in the game and the celestial empire is a reskin of that but with even more pointless hoops to jump thru and a builtin struggle for good measure.
>>2193880The Fragile Peace cultural innovation morphs into Bushido when the Shogunate is formed by decision.
>>2193788cause you're supposed to be kidnapping and raping women then forcing them into concubinage of giving them away to your sons/
>>2194494Not him but there's more to do.Typical admin gov>build up estate>boost/undermine other families>wait for appointmentCelestial gov>build up estate>boost/undermine others>take exams>join movements to help boost yourself>choose whether you want to be a basic bitch civilian or a military man>sway emperor>jump from governorship to governorship>get access to some of the levers of power as a vassal>have an influence on whether the country's era moves towards stability or collapse>try to seize power when everything does collapseThat might still be tedious to some, but to me there's at least more going on under the hood.
>>2194373There’s a new decision that gives you a Hegemony instead
>>2194709I'm saying administrative on its own is already crap. As a ruler ironically worse vassal management and ERE in particular you're being punished if you go reforming Rome since you straight up lose titles and title armies if you do. It's also peak retardation that the appointed governors can disband the theme armies you paid for or how they failed to fix them declaring wars or fucking up internal borders despite supposedly doing that several times already. The taxes and levies you get are straight up worse and further compounded being tied to governor competence that requires nurturing but AI characters die like flies and you realistically stop caring about that when you're an empire ruler. The co-ruler and eunuchs were changed from amazing to alright, your best friend exward cowitch son will scheme to overthrow you the instant he's able regardless of everything else since positive caps at +200 while negative can go up to -2000. Having to deal with several additional mana currencies to do shit you can do for free with anyone else doesn't improve the deal either. As a vassal you get the estate, which is cute but your hands are tied and best you get is to scheme to change your theme to naval so you can blob for blobbing sake. I personally enjoy being a vassal of HRE much more if that's what I plan on doing.>celestialSure, you grind activities to reach rank 1 and when you're a minister you still don't get to do shit. And couple of things you do get to do is usually softlocked by a long ass cooldown, influence mana AND a permanent struggle tied to the title because who doesn't enjoy those. You just get to do it all over again with the next character. And that's for china. The rest are just watered down versions of that. All of the new asia regions either have zero unique content or at best one local grind and then you're done. You made a shogunate? Cool, now you're playing a generic conqueror. You unified Korea? Cool, content over. It's just so barren.
>>2194776Oh, and also Admin rulers don't get to do grand tour which is one of the most busted/fun activities in the game. Need to double check if they changed that but kind tier admin rulers, independent or vassals, don't have throne room either.
My path to Emperor was thus:>landless student start>merit-maxxed and refused appointments until I had enough merit to secure a kingdom title>get appointed to Shaanga or whatever it is (1st rank prominence kingdom in the hegemony)>lock my governorship there>revoke the temple holding with a mining settlement for myself and plant my estate there>spend some time amassing wealth and status>marry into the celestial dynasty>make some babies and amass more wealth and status>wait for emperor to die>push my wife's claim for the throne and use my insane influence to force everyone to fight the war for me>wife is now empress and my dynasty is set to take over>allow appointments again until wife assigns me as censure (intrigue minister)>use position to 1) kill wife and get my player heir & dynasty member as emperor 2) expose secrets of rival families to pave way for my dynasty's rise 3) take money from vassals so I can immediately send it to the emperor (who can't help but raise their entire army every time a peasant rebellion pops, sending them into the negative and thus increasing tension unless subsidized)That last bit is so annoying. I have to babysit my son so he doesn't drive the hegemony into the ground before my first character finally kicks the bucket.
>>2194390Nah, I’m across the country getting trained to be an ICE Officer
look at these fucking units
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It will probably take like 5 months for Culture Expanded to get updated.
so what can ministers do exactly?
>>2195162For themselves? Very little.
The whole dlc can be summarized as event spam in asia
>>2193947>>2194014Fun Fact: Several Japanese Catholics actually did settle in Spain during a diplomatic mission to Europe in the early 17th century.
why does shinto have 0 content
>>2195196>settleNo dumbass, they didn't settle. They were sent as boys to europe on behalf of one minor daymo, toured since pope wanted to pretend he's more important than reformists and protestants he was warring with at the moment and then eventually all returned to japan and converted back to shinto since the political situation changed and the original person that sent them was long dead and christianity went out of vogue by that point. You also had two separate known expeditions you'd might want to look into. One was across the mexico and andes since they were spanish at that point and the other documented an embassy of sorts established from shipwrecked sailors in the early US since they couldn't legally return to Edo Japan.
>>2195213>Two years later, after their trip around Europe, the mission left Seville for New Spain (Mexico) in June 1616. Certain registration documents indicate that some Japanese could have stayed in Spain, which is possible given that they made their last stop in villages near Seville (Espartinas and Coria del Río). In modern Spain, there are families with "Japón" as a surname.
It is also possible that you are capable of reading comprehension, well adjusted and are in fact not a shit for brains retard that fails at navigating even wikipedia but I highly doubt it since there's zero evidence to support it. Dumbass.
Always fun when the AI manages to get the Karling HRE reformation. Also Alfred actually managed to reform England in short order. It feels like 8 times out of 10 he dies before he hits 40.
>>2193843How do you keep your block cohesion high as the emperor when the Yamato dynasty can’t have any branch houses so that one new perk that boosts cohesion based on dynasty is useless
>>2193885Domain limit for everyone in Japan is tired to their house manor level regardless of which government they belong to or their position
>>2195287yeah i figured that out, I thought the inheritance of retired admins was tied to top lieges domain size, but it turns out it doesn't matter, he will inherit the county regardless. just sucks that my good boy loyal influence farming character whos goal was to force retirement of weak admins to replace with strong admins (regardless of house) in order to strengthen the ritsuryo system does nothing but funnel power to the soryo's in the north.
>>2195297I just think the force retirement button itself is broken and automatically gives it to the regent while regular death gives it to the top candidate normallyIf you’re regent you can just break the game by force retiring the entire country since it’s literally free (it says it costs treasury but you don’t have treasurary lmao) and it gives it to you automatically
Where else do you think could reasonably have a Ceremonial Monarch?
>>2195395Jerusalem? Caliphate? HRE? Literally any place that loses scales to regent?
>>2195406I could see Jerusalem maybe, the HRE wasn't that kind of Empire though and the Caliphate was always in dispute by other parties.
>>2195429You're probably right on HRE. While definitely a figurehead no one really payed any respect or cared for the emprah after Barbarossa and before Hapsburgs.
Has anyone else experienced that Japan's Imperial family (Yamato dynasty) almost never marries and creates more heirs? Almost ruined my slow game because my mother (my father abducted one of their princesses for his wife) inherited the emperorship because literally all of her brothers died unwed and childless. Had to use the console to make a cousin inherit but their royal house by then only had like 15 alive members and all were still unmarried. The ceremonial monarch and his family have extra negative modifiers to marriage acceptance but it seems to be at a point were they just don't find anyone suitable and just never marry or have kids
>>2189987Anybody have a working mod to just remove East Asia yet? I’ve been playing on 1.17.1 with the DLC turned off for a bit now
>>2190860I’ve noticed that the game takes longer to load in, and for a second when I actually load in my character and pan out to see the map. After that it is smoother than the game was before.I had issues where the game would crash if I clicked on characters too quickly and they had different cultural clothing. Hasn’t happened yet despite me pushing it.Whatever they did for performance seems really good.
>>2195466Lore accurate
Anyone have all the Silk Road traditions
Can you completely eradicate the Yamato family and replace it with your own and make yourself the Emperor at all or would it be a waste of time for me to even attempt to do something like that?
>>2195562In theory it's enough that the primary heir of the current emperor/empress is of your house through marriage, but the whole ceremonial monarch inheritance thing is buggy, so good luck with that.
>>2193947>Ritsuryo outside of japanHow? Did you just conquer pieces all the way to spain while staying in japan?Adventurer always gets feudal government.
>>2190484god I love chinese historythe wonders of the orient
>>2192814is there a mechanic to have some latent legitimacy in appointments you ruled well?like you run a kingdom super well, then the emp gets mad and sends you off to the mongol marches or whatever and the realm collapses but you can walk into that kingdom and the garrison opens the gates for you
>>2195562the yamato family just kill themselves because they never marry anyone and so don't get any children. >>2195466but yes you can inherit the ceremonial monarch position if you marry into their family. if there are no male heirs then women can inherit. it happened to me by accident
Why is there no "Ship Burial / Burial at Sea" funerary tradition for Vikings?Sky Burials are already a unique thing in-game that Mongols and others have access to, but the Vikings have no unique thing like that going for them.
>There's a decision to form a Islamic caliphate hegemony now>Prevents any Muslim from revolting against you and gives your entire house free subjugation cb's against any independent Muslim So everyone in Arabia has cool flavour now except for actual crusaders. What was this game called again?
>>2195674The Sims: Medieval
>>2195674>Prevents any Muslim from revolting against you>and gives your entire house free subjugation cb's against any independent Muslim you get some restored-roman-empire-eternal-plagues tier detriment once everything's all under your umbrella, right?
>>2195674Custom Historical Dynasty Simulator
I wish a cup of tea would give me a soul-blowing orgasm with an afterglow that lasted five years
>>2195683Just pretend the way this goes is that you basically start a routine or habit of drinking that shit on either the daily or at least regularly for the next 5 years or so, and the next time it's available for you to do, you just renew your stocks or whatever, you just decide to keep up with it.The alternative would be spamming that decision over and over again like every in-game month or so, or just every year.
>>2195671please understand, they already did a longshipnigger DLC before they cared about funerals so they couldn't double dip on adding content for them
>>2195690just release as free content in one of the updates lol
>>2195683Start drinking higher quality tea then instead of shitty tea bags.
>>2195683have you tried brewing it yourself?
>>2195694hahahaha
>>2194772And that's locked behind Dharmic faith, right?Well I am not buying AuH for that run anyway so probably doesn't matter.
>>2195709>DharmicIf only, zoroastrian is considered dharmic now, so that would be cool.It's still just hindu, buddhist or jain.
>>2195256Lol keep seething tranny
>>2195694They never do that. They're shekelgrabbers. Even "free patches" are offset by higher dlc prices so the buycucks are paying for the "free patches".
>Hegemons have higher concubine capIs the children cap also increased?
>>2195811>higher concubine capOnly the Chinese emperor. I've seen one with 28 children, so there seems to be some cap increase here.
>>2195811there is a children cap?
>>2195821the empire/king tiers under hegemon also get an increase from 3 to 4 concubines
>>2195823there's like a 15 children cap for when it comes to natural conception, after that, game makes it so you can't really have children through normal means anymore, i don't think, even if you have lots of good fertility modifiers.said cap, however, doesn't apply to getting women pregnant through events or seduction schemes and whatnot. so technically, you can still bypass it by just shitting out bastards. or you can just mod the limit out by increasing it to like 99 children.
>>2195709I don't think the Hegemony Title itself is DLC locked, just the China mechanics. India doesn't get Meritocracy anyway, it just inherits whatever government you have, like the Roman Empire. You could just mod it, I guess. It wouldn't be hard. Cheevos still work with mods. Just add where it saysOR = {religion = religion:hinduism_religionreligion = religion:buddhism_religionreligion = religion:jainism_religionTo the listreligion = religion:christianity_religionreligion = religion:zoroastrianism_religionOr whatever you want.
>>2195831I can't imagine Indian having Imperial Exams, lmao. They'd just shit all across the entire exam courtyard then have it all cancelled due to illness risks.
>>2195823>>2195830you can find all this stuff in the defines text filefor a hegemon you have a base of 8 children + 2 for being a ruler + 2 for every concubine and a 50% chance to reduce the total by 1. So an AI hegemon should max out at 17-18 children. Players get another +2 to their max child count and don't think they are affected by the 50% chance, so 20 kids for players. you can also just directly edit this text file if you want to play games where your unlanded courtiers can actually have multiple kids. or play a game where you can have as many kids as you want. never actually ran into issues of having too many characters it tanks performance. but i chalk that up to CK3 being so easy you achieve your goals so quickly playthroughs don't usually last that many generations
>>2195811Yes. The current emperor in my games has 31 children.
>>2195861NTA but I always remove the fertility maluses and use the Better Population Control mod.
Does the Chinese royal family have reduced stress for close family dying so if you have lots of children one dying doesn’t set off a stress blackhole of everyone dying from stress which increases stress which makes everyone die of stress even more
imagine being european and visiting japan and seeing its rulers look like this
last time i played ck3 was on release, how do I relearn the game and is ireland 1066 still fucked because viking gymbros will come rolling with their doomstacks all over europe?
>>2196028Vikings are no longer around in 1066. Being a HRE vassal is probably one of the easier ways to learn the basics as you can fuck around without having to worry about getting your shit kicked in from the outside too much.
cant tell why these people got usurped by a warrior class
>>2195866>Emperor of china>9k troopsLmao
>>2196051It's lead powder isn't it?
>>2195994>>2196051So are the japanese just forced to always look goofy? No way to have the shogun tell them this is retarded?
>>2196063arsenic
>>2196072there is no shogun if theyre dressed like thatif the family belongs to the bureaucratic type they all dress like that (heian era clothing/makeup) but if they belong to the samurai government they dress completely differently/basically how you imagine shogun era japan dressed
>Form Vietnam / Dai Viet>Convert to Mandala>Forced to break up realm because it's too bigOh.
>>2196028Play as an adventurer, no-one can actually wipe you out playing as one, it gives you the basic gameplay loop and when you're ready to pick a region to play in you'll have a little bonus of some good troops and cash and prestige.
I don't like how Mandalas can't blob but I find their gameplay with becoming god far better than all the merocratic stuff.
retarded question, if I conquer land in SEA as european adventurer what goverment do I get? can I somehow get mandala and such like that?
>>2196129You get Tribal/Feudal but you can change to Mandala if you change to one of the local cultures / religions. You can't do it as a Christian unless you reform your faith because Monotheism prevents Mandalas. If you conquer all of SEA, though, going to Mandala tanks your vassal limit (because you're supposed to have a ton of tributaries instead) so you'll end up having to split your realm.
>>2196096> you'll have a little bonus of some good troops and cash and prestige.You cant really keep the troops though, since adventurers pay pretty much nothing in upkeep. The moment you become landed your income will deep in the negative because you have to start paying normal upkeep.
>>2196157You can if you've got the cash, it should be enough to get you established.
Playing in Japan and the same thing others said happened to them with the Ten'oh's title eventually falling into their family's hands also happened to me. They (Yamato family) just don't get married or split off too much
so basically the way to play china is to ignore governance until you can get a kingdom?
>>2195831Is hegemony just a super-Empire title?
>>2196330i was the guy who brought it up. there are a ton of negative modifiers like: -75 for being a soryo administration, -50 for anyone in the ceremonial house marrying someone who isn't the head of a noble house, -150 when you dynasty does not have the same level of splendor (they start at level 8 btw). no one can send them a marriage request because they would never accept, but when i tag over to the emperor all the people in the find spouse lookup would accept without an issue. no idea why the emperor doesn't send out requests on his own. must be a bug
>>2189987I'm trying CK3's free weekend and I feel like I've been kicked into the ocean. WHAT THE FUCK am I supposed to do?>Play the tutorial dipshit!I've played both and then started the game. I have like 50 vassels to manage, one foriegner that isn't in my nation (starting Japan) to the north of me and the game whining for me to arrange marriages for me, my kid(s), the fucking higher vassels want me to fire the court I already have or they'll bitch and lose face with me.WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?! How the FUCK do people play this?
>>2196561>playing as a major country>complains about shit being too complicatedliterally retarded
>>2196669>Play Japan in Civ>Straightforward: You explore, you defend yourself/attack others, you politic>CK3>You play Japan>You have 50+ notifications at the start bitching at you to make decisionsSasuga, Paradox-san.
>>2196678you literally start the same as everyone in civ
love these creatures
>>2196561Japan in particular is an unholy mess, and that's coming from someone with 2k+ hours.I'd say avoid east/southeast asia in general as someone brand spanking new
My glorious royal 23 year old Yamato Empress...rightly ruling Japan directly..vvgh...
>>2196691jap niggas really thought they looked good wearing this
>>2196129Depends on the CB used. If you used invasion/adv invasion you take the previous form no matter what it is.
Havent played since they added the Byzantine DLC, what mods are essential
>>2196950one that lets you end a feud
Playing this on the free weekend. Why is asia just you getting spammed with events?
>>2196961You need a mod for that? Seriously?
Does anyone else like the content creator packs? I like them and hope we get more.
retard
Start as a random count and go from there, this way you'll have less shit to manage and can familiarize with the characters in your court
>>2197100meant for >>2196561
>>2196561Take your meds, chill the fuck out and enjoy the ride. Vast majority of the buttons and options is just pointless crap to get in your way. It's also one of the very few paradox games where you are encouraged to not blob and just have fun.
Is it possible to create a Price-Bishopric vassal like the HRE ones at will?
>>2197148Yes. Takes a little more effort to make them elector like they're in HRE but I had imam "electors" in persia before.
>>2197151How do you go about doing it? Does it only work with Lay Clergy as Clerical Tradition?
>>2197148You can but it's probably one of the messiest things in the game. If you have temporal revocable clergy it's easy, just fire your archbishop then switch the capital of the county to the temple then give it to someone and they'll become a theocracy. If you don't have that you'll have to pause the game on a day when the temple isn't owned by your archbishop for some reason, which can be tricky. Or you can temporarily switch to a religion with lay clergy, revoke and switch the capital, then convert back. This probably only works with feudal and tribal, since theocracies only exist since they were imported from CK2 and the dev team probably doesn't even remember they're in the game anymore. The DLC governments are designed to be played in certain ways separate from the rest of the game, and the more you mix government types the screwier things get.
>>2197172Completely irrelevant of religion. You want a duchy+ theocratic vassal and the appropriate succession rule attached to your primary title.
VGH
>>2190484what was his Faqing problem?
>>2197218Cringe
>>2197218>poor>cheater>race mixer>troonImpressive. Have you considered killing yourself?
>>2197239>>2197259cringe>cheaterhow
I spent my whole life so I could form this map and it was kinda boring.
>>2197261>dev mode on>dead culture at that date across the world>h-how am i cheatingEat shit and die. Dumb bitch.
>>2197273devmode is not on. i have formed papuan-norse and it's spreading well. you mad javanese fag?
>>2197268yeah the achievements suck
I just voted for my favorite guy to become Holy Roman Emperor
>>2197285>i-it's not on>clearly onEat shit and die. Dumb bitch.
>>2197296
Playing a woman with the jap culture where you can fuck any guy you want without repercussion is awesome btw
>>2197310
>>2197292they elected me as Emperor instead, idk, guess they dont want a Slav as Emperor
I hadn't checked if Tibetans default to Meritocratic or Administrative if they swap out of Feudal but I honestly don't like either for themhoping paradox focuses on theocracies soon since it may incidentally get them something special but it seems unlikely given silk road already being present
hoping paradox doesn't "focuses" on dumb bitches asking for dumb bitch shit lmao
So is All Under Heaven worth it? I don't have any of Chapter 4 yet, so was thinking of getting the whole Chapter. I am a WMAF connoisseur, so I feel like AUH would appease my tastes.
Idk if this works with the other “primogeniture” governments but when you merge the emperor and regent role as Japan it says it switches to primogeniture but in reality you can still pick any of your children as heir and all your titles go to them
if you haven't killed every other character on the map you haven't won the game
>>2197352It takes like 2 minutes for you to download the dlc and add it's line to your creamapi.
>Mongols conquer all of Asia>Wait until they explode and go full Fire Nation on KoreaSovlful playthrough
>>2197372>cannot answer the questionStop being a gamma male faggot.
>>2197378>cannot accept helpStop being a beta gay troon
>>2197381>beta>2025Die boomer
>>2197383Kiss my ass zoomie
looks like someone developed the Irritable trait kekkles
>>2196750Marry her to an indian
Reminder
I wish there was an advanced torture saved for people that do really bad things to you. Just had one of my guards kill my asian wife in that serial killer like event and i was disappointed i could only torture or cut his head off. Need to give you more torture options to let you do all the injuries to a guy before killing them if they survive.
>stole 1253 gold from a single heist contract 8 years into a china runAt this rate in a couple years adventurers will have legal access to the debug console.
hello should i play now or wait for patch
>>2197633it's playable as is but they do intend to patch it so I wouldn't plan for a 1453 game
>Great wall extension requirements are all wrong, also affects the wrong baronies>Great barrack building doesn't replace an existing duchy building, despite claiming it does so it just deletes your resources for free>Great campaign requirements are inverted, can only target tributaries, fires immediately and doesn't even fucking annex the shit you conqueredDid they even playtest this shit?
Thanks PDX, very cool
Conquering China from the outside is straightforward. Be in the de jure lands, have China in the tension phase, and you get a single cb to conquer it all in one go.How are you supposed to do it as an vassal though? The idea seems to be to intentionally shift the situation towards division, but that takes ages to do.The other, somewhat faster way is to repeatedly assassinate the Chinese emperor until an heir gets it with less than 3 legitimacy, instantly shattering the hegemony and switching the situation to division.There has to be a better way to do it, but how?
There needs to be more internal shit to do once you reach the top as an East Asian country because in Europe you still interact with a billion neighboring countries while doing normal ck3 things while in East Asian you have no neighbors so you’re forced to go through the ck3 loop with no point
>>2198233>>2198233New thread
>>2193475Remove papua and the Philippines too they straight up dont matter in this time period
>>2193636Secret societies are way overhated.The main problem is for the handful of religions which only have satanist societies
>>2197259>>2197273Why are you so asspained by someone having fun? Go fuck yourself. If I want to go into devmode in GoT mod and give Ned Stark a dragon and free the north with it, and post about it, I'm going to.
>>2199439To be fair this game is so easy you don't even need to cheat
>>2195151Any word on that mod which gives titles a different name depending on cultural holder? It shouldn’t take too long since there were already versions of it for several different paradox games, they should just have to plot the relevant info in
>>2190013I like the taste of flied lice.
