>flips>has a good night's sleep
Doomposting EditionDo not reply to bait, shitstirring, tribaltards, or dramafaggotry. Be it inside AND outside the thread - Hide, Report, and Move on.>Who is Filian?White haired kemonomutt girl(?). Hyperactive zoomerbloomer vtuber. Fruit snack goblin. She does her best to entertain her fans!>LinksTwitch: https://www.twitch.tv/filianYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@filianIsLostTwitter: https://twitter.com/filianIsLost>Notable ClipsFilian breaks containmenthttps://www.twitch.tv/filian/clip/EmpathicCautiousFiddleheadsHeyGirl-T0o3Tu3mMhdDwPlyFilian is bilingual?https://www.youtube.com/shorts/P8P0aeT-ZPwWhen $20 is $20https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9fK8xPLiqFMIf I Laugh, I Get Punished #3https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7I1pW05iR4>Featured StreamsThe VTuber Awards 2023, hosted by Filianhttps://www.twitch.tv/videos/2006839616Monopoly with Pippa, Dokibird and Lumihttps://www.twitch.tv/videos/2134804090Filian & Vedal vs Neurohttps://www.twitch.tv/videos/2100458497Filan & MariMari_EN Watch ONE Championship Fight Night 21https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2111797010Wrestletuber Day 2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pStlM6QCEbg>Fan music videosLove Tastehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAbCQYiJefwMy Vtuber Lifehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ablf1N0bB60>RentrysVod Archival Guidehttps://rentry.org/Vod_Archival_GuideStream Archiveshttps://rentry.org/Filipino_ArchiveThread baking instructionshttps://rentry.org/Flip_Baking_Pasta>Usual scheduleMon, Wed, Fri, Sat21:04 - 24:06 UTC>Recent StreamFilian x Kirsche x SmugAlana cringe videoshttps://www.twitch.tv/videos/2188445909>Friends>>>/vt//pcg/>>>/vt//lig/>>>/vt//haha/>>>/vt//999/>>>/vt//swarm/>Previous Thread>>79952721
You wake up in a cell.
>>79958948this will be interesting>will Camila snake out?>will the Kokonuts, Bao and Nerissa collabs happen?>how will Mythic handle it? Asmongold will surely have to comment on itFilian is retarded and there's no excuse for it but i will shit on anyone who turns out to be a backstabber
>>79959126Thieves deserve to be backstabbed
I doubt she will be sleeping this week
we all need out beauty sleep
>>79959126I feel like only the Nerissa thing is a potential sunk ship aside from Filian cancelling anything herself imo
>>79959111Oh hey, you added the line about dramafags, nice one OP
>>79959101Sucking on Filian's tongue after a good sloppy blowjob!
It's Joever
>>79959214well there were the suggestions so yknow
>>79959126I only care about the nerissa collab
>>79959222overstimming her
Nah I'd win
>>79959227
>>79959101This image is illegal.
>>79959346ur an illegal
>>79959346Posting pictures on the internet is permittedhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1WzWx-gw3I1KKIALZnIWY9dh6IDKSzK6l/view
Honestly, learning that Filian has been illegally profiting off of some random Japanese dudes intellectual property for years only makes me like her more.
>>79959453Based."Artists" are fucking losers.
>>79959453Okie dokie nigger.
>>79959453>>79959505hey man she paid her $40. pure greed to ask for more
>>79959453she's a react streamer it's in her blood
>>79959453Based, her original model will be made by AI instead, fuck artists
Filian's stinky rich. Why she hasn't bought the rights to the design or get a new design that she would own for so long is beyond me.
Honestly I've wanted Filian to have her own model for years now. Hopefully that is the good to come out of this whole situation.
>>79959227E is not referring to that, E is sharing the model itself on social media for the purpose of providing it to third parties. It's just a little Engrishy on that part, scroll further down for clarification on the terms of use.
>>79959126you are talking about the girl who got scammed by her manager and the guy who gave a lighter to his mother, maybe that should answer your questions, but i hope im wrong
Filian's stink is rich
what should her new model look like
filian's rich is stinky
>>79959660BIG sniff
>>79959662microbikini and a cameltoe
>>79959604woman brain, please understand
>>79959648E. Is referring to two things:- don't make it a public avatar/pedestal in vrchat; This is a thing where when you upload an avatar and set it as public where people can clone it off each other and pass it around, save it in their favorites etc- don't use it in a place like the steam workshop for gmod or whatever where anyone can subscribe and download it.
tourist hereeating popcorn while waiting to see if this bitch gets smacked with the rong jap arm of the raw>>79959570>AI 3D modellingMy friend there are mulltiple dimensions of complexity there that are beyond your comprehension in a literal and metophorical sense.AI can barely produce models of chairs and they all look like this topology-wise. Fully featured humanoid 3D models (that are optimized and rigged properly to boot) are decades away.
>>79959852ai feeds into itself and you can't really control it much anywaywhether for 2D or 3D, it's completely unoptimal for any real work, even compsci shit
Coming here to dab on the haters, dramafags and antis who think Filian will be cancelled or face any sort of responsibility.
>>79959983next thread should be called>flips>gets away with anything
She should commission the artist to make her a 2.0 design. The artist is really good. Not sure why this hasn't been sorted out yet. Stop spending all of your money on blow filian!
>>79959662Exposed anus.
>>79960071i thought she already commissioned a proper model
>>79960099pretty sure she has a proper live 2D modelNOT a proper 3D model
>>79960088I like how flippers are obsessed with her anusI have no idea how this became standard for us
*ting* *ting* *ting* *ting*Drama alertDrama alert
>>79960178one step closer to being a scatfag
>>79960132oh right
>>79959662Wet vag (constant) (dripping)
>>79960231scat sucks I just want to do her ass
>>79959852You're about 6 months behind AI 3d. Yeah you gotta retopo and texture but a vase is a vase. All the AI is doing is generating a point cloud from its training data of tons of 3d scanned stuff and then another bit of software is meshing the output as if it was a real scan. If you can work with a scan you can work with 3d AI sloppa and might even save you time.Today I wouldn't recommend anyone get into a career in 3d unless they're prepared to learn some AI too. In particular, players are likely to give way less of a shit if the mesh for that houseplant in the corner of that game's apartment is lovingly hand crafted or slop compared to how they feel about a drawing. We're not there yet for character models, but 5 years? Sure. The pace is the same as in 2d. It's coming fast.
>>79960329>scat sucksyeah, from her anus
Filian should shit herself on stream again to make her money back
>Asked to give legal statement>"Blelele"
>>79960441"Your honour:"
>>79960461>Your honor, I'm cute
>>79960494>I rest my case. Thanks for giving me the rights to MY model.
>>79960557>the judge is Neuro
>>79960461>very well>I sentence you to...>mating press
>>79960598dibs
>>79960579>Your sentence Mr. Jingo: 10 years of Bread.
>>79960461>Opposing lawyer: Objection!>Filian: Overruled!>Judge: Order! Objection sustained.>Filian: Frick! *breaks own neck*
>>79960598>I sentence you to life in a marriage with anon
Vid popped up in my recommendedDesigned specifically for Filian honestly
>>79960676
>>79960677i'm anon btw
>>79960212not now false, give it more time
Guys get this, what if Filian just ignores the artist?
>>79960852Dan Clancy personally corrects her
Huh, can the merch actually be copyrighted?>generic catgirl in sailor moon uniformIf it was THE 3d model put on merch then 100% agreed, copyrightable. Now the mint model, that's another issue in regards to the baby kart game, unless the devs were smart.
>>79960875specific design elements are used to prove copyrighted material afaik
>Twitter warriors try to do anything to Filian>She ignores it and keeps doing her own thingMany such instances.
>>79960852>artist sues Goodsmile because they're more easily reachable law-wise (japanese company)>Goodsmile cancels the nendo to limit further damages, or is forced to pay out a sizable sum>filian is borderline blacklisted from any future collabs with anything because companies don't wanna risk being on the hook for legal problems
>>79960972>the only company she can collab with is meiki
>>79960972>Filian fans find artists location and behead him
>>79961020Inshallah, the cascadian caliphate will invade japan over this!
>>79961014she'll have to be OTK and Phase Connect's bitch for life
>>79961080yes, my pippian ship...
>>79960918In regards to the nendoroid the only thing that resembles rindo is the eyes which seem copypasted. Everything else is>cat ear with bell earings>sailor moon outfit with leotardThe only other thing might be the hair.
>>79961020>Filian fansslop watchers have no balls
>>79961100filian can't even eat waterbug without wanting to throw up, the pipussy would kill her
Old Man Schizo Rambling Incoming:This whole thing with Booth and how it works reminds me of some old shit from back in the day. Anyone remember "closed species" thing on DeviantArt back in the day? Where these 12-22 year olds would convince each other to shell out $40-$100 for someone's furrybait OCs and there'd be all these rules and conditions attached and breaking the rules got you kicked out of the club. Most of those things didn't even last 2 years and dumbass kids still bought that shit.
>>79961131At the end of the day, it's clearly based on and using the model that she's using, so I don't know if "it's generic" would be any sort of defense if you can recognize that it is meant to be, you know, "Rindo" (Filian)
>>79961456yeah oc donut steel is a perennial problem. made messier that they sell them with piecemeal permissions
>>79959453>>79959505I always thought of artists as losers so it’s always a revelation to find someone seething over them getting bullied in high school by the art kids
>>79961020>I HAVE OVER 300 CONFIRMED KILLSMan shut up
MODS
>>79960382not enough training data and much higher dimensionality, second one isn't so much of a problem but the first one definitely is for transformers
>>79962471nice catgirl oc bro
>>79962471
>>79959101She's not going to sleep so well tonight bros
>>79959101> flips> gets into legal hot water
>>79961456there's a difference between an online store and some kids trading OCs
>>79959126Assmon famously doesn't give a shit about copyright especially in regards to arts and was always a few steps away from preaching for it's abolishment so Mythic won't be against her. A lot of vtubers are former Tumblr artists so they can start a stink about it.
This is gonna blow over, GSC's lawyers would've checked this shit.He probably only has a claim to the model, which doesn't extend to the character of filian.In fact him being left off the credits was probably intentional.
>>79963094only superficially >>79963177based assmon
>>79963201It's the same character except for hair and eye color.
>>79963306so not the same character, got it
>>79963306What are rindo's defining characteristics?
>>79963439True
>>79963306So, just the hairstyle and wearing a generic school uniform, then.
>>79963439>take sonic>paint him greenIt's my character now, SEGA can fuck off. brb releasing merch
>>79963566based and transformativepilled
>>79963201Dude fillian is based off his model. I can't color swap Bugs Bunny and call it Brian Rabbit and have a leg to stand on. The actual law doesn't give a shit about how you feel
>>79963498Aside from being an affront to God, this can't be argued to be either Sonic or Spongebob Squarepants.
>>79963566Based.
Why are her fans deathly afraid of her losing rights to the model?
>>79963566that's how it worked for Ken Penders
>>79963613>jingo has a monopoly on catgirlsfilian will bust this trust
>>79963613>actual law doesn't give a shit about how you feelbut that's not what mommy's always told me...
>>79959852You are wrong tech is already there once Blackwell becomes the standard it's going to be everywhere.
>>79963491Hairy butthole
Hopefully our Filian will take this opportunity to make a better model.We can shut this arrogant man out lmao
>>79892741Well Shit I guess I was wrong There is no way she didn't see this coming with something this big kek >>79963867and yes she should have gotten her own design a while back
>>79963658Then why did you bring up those two very distinct characters if they have nothing to do with that oc?
>>79963867Too late for that when she has been releasing other merch before. He only just found out about this one and seems to have been clueless on the past merch
>>79963908Okay sister, it's kind of like makeup dupes. Everybody knows what's up and why, but the law doesn't cover it because then megacorps will be able to stomp the market flat by arguing that some superficial similarity is infringing on their trademark or IP.
>>79963908it's easy to get confused about Sony and Nickelodeon's appropriation of Squaresock Nicpants, but Anon is a forgiving artist and won't press charges. All that is required is a naked dogeza from both ceos
>>79963725Cats girls with specific design elements placed in specific ways to make a specific character yes. Or do you think Disney own all mouse characters?
>>79964227Disney doesn't own shit anymore
Ok, how about Filian makes something for Jingo to use for profit and then they call it even?
>flips>gets sued by the owner of her model
anny
>>79963566Obviously derivative works aren't protected, however the concept of "rindo" as a character specifically is what matters here, and its way too much of a generic catgirl to have any kind of claim to it.When filian complains she can't stop mobile ads that use her likeness its the same thing, its not because jingo would need to do it, but because "white haired catgirl in a sailor suit" is too broad a concept to lay claim to.
>>79963867>this arrogant manBut he's not arrogant
>>79964227wowee a catgirl wearing bells and serafuku with pantsu, I've never seen that before. it's basically ai slop
>*flips*>...
>>79964310>idk why she won't get her own model and design wit hthe moeny she's makingshe just like me
>>79964280
>>79964280Are that jew stars?
God what a thing to wake up to. What the fuck was she thinking, I can't believe she didn't cover this shit. I can't believe Mythic didn't make sure she had covered this shit.
>>79964464Based goy.
>>79964352Ignorance and dismissal are a great strategy on an anonymous image board, but not sound legal advice when you violate contract law.Filian's model is a Rindo derivative-- the defense that Rindo is a 'generic catgirl' doesn't prevent it from being a specific, clearly evident and-- as it happens-- actually provable original model. Rindo has a license for what it can and can't be used for. Violations to that license are actionable.I suspect an amicable resolution will be made between all parties, either in the form of an agreement or a settlement to make the complaint disappear, but the violation is clear and no amount of 'it's just a random catgirl' cope will change that.
>>79964352>>79964317You'd be correct if she used a catgirl model that just happened to somewhat resemble Rindo.Except she used the exact same Rindo model from booth, just with the hair texture repainted white.She wasn't using a different model that made to look like Rindo, she WAS using Rindo.Like, are you niggas all 12?
Why do retards keep pretending that this will ever end in a court of law?That shit takes ages and the reputation damage is a much bigger incentive for her to settle and pay the artist
>*flips*>help me snackers I'm stuck
>>79964280>negev pfp>>>79964317Pretty much, now if she used a cutout of the 3d model then she would be in big trouble. At the end of the day this more likely will be settled peacefully in private, with the help of a lawyer and if Filian is smart she will shut up about this subject completely.
>wake up>check twitteroh no.....tell me she's gonna be alright lads
>>79964669She's dead bro.She seppuku'd out of shame.
>>79964669we are gonna have to shave the fillyBush...
>>79964549Jingo needs to claim and defend the design of "generic catgirl" to have literally any legal standing here. The filian character extends beyond rindo, and the vta model wasn't built off it at all.>>79964658Dude probably played dumb until now because GSC is a japanese company.
>>79964756Oh, I know, what a tragedy! Too bad Gilian is smooth down there!
>>79964330Yep. He's just retarded.After Filian stops using his Model, he will realize that he has lost millions bucks.
>>79964810i dont think gilian is gonna be able to sustain me in that case...
>>79964764Nah, Jingo need to defend "Rindo" and prove that Filian's design is a Rindo; which is such an incredibly easy layup this is just not going to court. There will be an agreement or the lawyers will arrange a payoff.
>>79964764Ok let me get this straight. If I get this character and recolor his hair and eyes the original owner can't get me? It's generic enough after all.
>>79964669Currently trending and I cant find a single tweet defending her
>>79964934>Currently trendingReally?
>>79964951
>caring about what twitter thinksfuck, i knew this general was full of hopeless newfags, but this is too muchyou are absolute fucking retards if you listen to twitter's "opinion" on anything in any situation ever
>>79964934
>>79964669>>79964934>>79964951when was the last time Twitter opinion mattered? Just ignore those insaneos.
>stealing is ok when we do itkinda niggerish ngl
This aged like milk
>>79964999Will her defense in court be "I dont care what you think"?
>>79965027Yeah, I was just curious.
>>79964502I'm gonna be honest Mythic probably don't know shit about vtubers
>>79964985The "Trending" tab is just an algorithm feed, newfag-chama! It shows what you are interested in.
>>79964934>search filian on twitter>90% pornI guess they know what I want
>>79964317she explicitly said "I can't stop them because I don't own this model", least in the short I saw
>>79964669She fucked up despite what retards here will say, she's in the wrong. It likely won't go further than her having to pay a licence for commercial merch use and perhaps part (or all) of the revenue from previous merch runs. She'll be fine but her rep will take a hit
>>79965138WrongShe said the model is public use and free (its not)
>>79965135based
Just a reminder: Gilian model allows for physical merch to be manufactured off it with no permission.All of this totally isn't a Gilian plot to take over once and for all!
>TwitchUnaffected>YoutubeUnaffected>DiscordWill be filtered of morons>/flip/Might have a few tourists with the % of a permanent seething autist>xitterIrrelevant.You can pinpoint the tourists(derogatory) in this thread.And for the love of god to anyone without a sheer degree of individual thought just ignore dumb statements like >>79959063 made either in bait or through a game of telephone.
>>79965164>despite what retards here will sayI mean most of us know that. There's like two retards rotating between "artist bad" and "generic enough" arguments which are kinda weak.
>>79965229nice cope
>>79964819>millionsShe already wasn't paying so where is this supposed money coming from that they'd be losing?
>>79964912The outfit is a bit unique here, but if you changed that too then yeah.
>>79963691>that's how it worked for Ken Pendersnah Ken Penders got the rights for his OC because sega was a retard for losing the contracts in a fire and not making backups of the contract
Oh dear goodness, you guys are still debating this? Stirring shitstorm over this won't change a thing. Filian will deal with it in one way or another and all we can do is hope it goes positively for her. Take a break, do something relaxing and maybe send her some words of support /here/, in twitter comments or in DMs on an odd chance she reads it. It will make it a bit less stressful for her if she sees that there is some support. Have a good day/night lads.
>>79965285How is a military outfit unique?
>>79965264Never mind I hope people keep shitting on her if this is the defense we are gonna get from twitter retards.
so why should Filian make hundreds of thousands of dollars off of another man's work and expect no repercussions? How can anyone possibly defend her? Not even an anti, just saiyan. Marimari underscore EN would never be this stupid desu
>>79965458
>>79965264Lol this is a squatters argument. I used this stolen thing for so long it's mine now
>>79965578and the squatter is right
>>79965317Military outfits as a concept aren't unique, but that specific design for one is unique to the setting right?I mean jocat is basically black haired felix.The rindo sailor suit is as generic a sailor suit as it gets.
What about this though?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P66qE5DMrTo
>>79965458>another man's worka 2-3 day hack job in blenderVERSUSmonths of physical performancewho will win
>>79965662A white military outfit is unique?
Is it over for filian?
>>79965578land ownership laws are diffrent as they needed to be when there were no constant up-to-date records
>>79965663>I was commissioned to rig this model by saint usagi. Thank you so much!What about it?
>>79965748She'll bounce back.
get in here filian chads>>79965288>>79965288>>79965288>>79965288
>>79965758She complained(in filian manner) on one of her streams that the artist shouldn't have leaked the 2d model.
>>79965748yesshe's done nowshe'll stream her vrchat suicide, shut down her twitch channel, go back to hololive and bang on their front door begging to let her in again
Damn, every indies, antis and small corpos are after her right now. What a shit show but here's my advice to her.>Hire a lawyer>Pay the artist>Remove all your merchandizes>Make a new avatar ip
>>79964559If this existed in a vacuum I might agree, but if she didn't have the merch rights figured out she might not have had anything figured out. If that's true the rights holder could go after her for basically all of her activities going back years and there's some likelihood that ends up in front of a judge just because of how complex it is even if they eventually settle. This is potentially, cataclysmic. She's actually batshit insane and pants-on-head retarded to have not negotiated usage rights. Like I'm actually fucking shocked.The crazy thing is I distinctly remember her bringing merch up on stream at one point and alluding to having negotiated something when someone in chat asked how she could sell merch. Fairly recently, like in the last couple months, but couldn't point to a date. If we're really lucky and she wasn't lying maybe there was a misunderstanding on someone's part about what was and was not allowed and this won't be too bad in scope and can end in a settlement. The fact that neither Filian nor Good Smile has taken the tweet advertising the nendroid down yet gives me a tiny bit of hope, because if they were just wholly and knowingly in the wrong they'd probably have pulled the plug instantly, but I guess we'll see what happens today. Suppose we're about to find out if Mythic is worth it after all.
>>79965837>AIslopnah im good thanks
>>79965748not really, the only thing this effects are her merch sales
I like this flippy fox floozy
>>79964310>do you know how rich people have so much money?>they act like cheapskates
>>79965684a 2-3 day hack job that Thiefian didn't do herselfhonestly, I'm not surprised that a vtuber doesn't understand how work works
Love me Filian, simple as, but time and again the subject of getting her own model has been brought up and she simply brushed it aside. I understand that she got attatched to the rindo model, but how could she never once think this could go bad considering she or her team never directly contacted the original artist before releasing any merch? Filian isn't evil, just stupid, but then again what's new about that?
>>79966091I'm not surprised artfags vastly overestimate their importance
All the drama has reminded me that noone on this board is a lawyer, and everyone is just pulling shit out of their ass depending on whether they like or dislike a vtuber.
I really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really wanna touch Filian's butt
>>79966213You sound like AIjeet.
>>79966250unfortunately that's how the legal system works in practice
>>79965839she's even more retarded than previously proven then.
i NEED to pound that dirty filussy and correct her naughty behaviour
>>79966295and racist too. enjoy your replacement
Gosh...who wishes this nendoroid shit never happened?We literally went from heaven to hell in few hours
>>79966342What a day...
>>79966266FIRMLY GRASP IT
>>79966342It triggered the antis
>>79966342defcon 5 to defcon 4
I want to bury my face in Filian's fluffy tail.
>>79966342Drama is fun, and filian's reluctance to get her own model was going to blow up on her sooner or later.
>>79966464drama is fun when it isn't happening to me>>79966448amen brother
>gets his model immortalized in nendoroid form>even gets credited on the page>seethes about it in a public space instead of being happysome artists are more menhera than vtubers is this really worth it for getting 30 cents in royalties from each nendoroid sold?
>>79966342It was bound to happen at any moment The nendo triggered it earlier since it's a big deal in Japan
>>79966508it kinda is. money do be powerful and shit
>>79966250True, but that's how law works as well.It's just a jew word game
>>79965526>went to japan with luca AGAINlmfao poor rosefags always getting cucked
>>79965229>Filian's credit ratingIn the shitter
>>79966250Everything my favorite vtuber does is a virtue.Everything my least favorite vtuber does is a sin.
>>79965837>AI slopJumping from one IP nightmare to the next
It's me Your friendBehind all of theseThere can only be one white fox
>>79965748She'll either have to make a new model and potentially suffer blow back when fans complaining that "it's not the same!" or face lawsuit after lawsuit from IP holders for the rest of her carrier.
>>79966508>just get paid in exposure bro
>>79966810no...
>>79966810FUBUKING
>>79966810That's a cat.
>>79966810>There can only be one white foxHello. I'm tenma.
>>79966810There is only one way this situation can be resolved.The Ultimate White Fox Showdown Collab!
Artist could have settled it privately. He even admitted to contacting both Goodsmile and Fil in his tweet. Him going into a public lynching space just shows that he is a malicious person.
>>79959101>flips your artwork on the market without a license
>both tweets are still up>no reaction from gsc or filianmy guess is that they’re working out something
>>79966810White cat.
>>79967009Jingo tried contacting them but got ghosted. It's their fault for not taking the message seriously, and now they will have to face public backlash.
>>79966508>sell thing to someone on the condition that they don't do X>they do X>"uhm akshually it doesn't count because i made it purple"30 iq brownskin post
I wonder how many people would continue to simp for Fillian once they realize Jingo is a cute Korean Woman too
>>79967171>but got ghostedma man it's been less than 24 hours
>>79967301Does she do flips tho
>>79967328She does on my dick with full body vrchat ERP.
I think the best solution is giving him a cut10% or 20%There's nothing money can't solve in this world
Filian is a shitty person desu
>>799672730 iq simp post>>79967301she could be a cute holo and this would still be detestable
>>79967467t. seething sister
Her hair and outfit arent even unique btw, its all a part of the same purchase lol. For the low low price of $45 you too can become Fillian
>>79967467yeah she shits on me everynight
>>79959101Scamming piece of shit
Looks like being a lazy retard zoomer finally catch up with her
https://youtu.be/bbmYkcsUTXg10 seconds in>I’m so glad that you like this model that I paid zero dollars for and am using for freeUh oh
>>79967593esl
>>79966508
>>79966508Do you see the copyright fillian on the lower left corner of the announcement page? I'd seethe too since fillian is slowly becoming the creator of Rindo rather than the artist herself. Circles are already calling Rindo Fillian and dont realize that its a generic prefab anyone could buy (or clone/pirate).
>>79967645if people don't know how to capitalize on exposure it's their own fault. Majority of small vtubers waste huge raids like that too.
Starting to see a bunch of pearl clutching trannies get mad over a nendo. I think they can work something out.
Well shit is fucked we better delete the general for now because things are going to get ugly
>>79966108I think this makes her management company look even fucking dumber than before. She's already complained that they don't get sponsors she wants and that they aren't all that helpful. Shouldn't they have seen this coming?
>>79967776I fucked your mom last night and paid her in exposure.What the fuck are these retarded takes? Holy shit.
>>79967886no
>>79967740Fillian *IS* Rindo
>>79967645Do you have the license for that picture?
Filian original model, hype!
guys... she's getting cooked
>>79968050It's over.
>artist for the other model, the one the plushie is based on came out and said Filian never spoke to them eitherFilian is actually so retarded she deserves to get sued.How the fuck did she ever think it was a good idea to make a whole brand and sell a shitton of merch using IPs she doesn’t own, didn’t even ask permission to use, and ignored the TOS for all of it? Genuinely so idiotic.
>>79967958Don't say I didn't warn you
>>79968096nobody stopped her, so why wouldnt she
>>79968096Doesn't she have a manager and a management company for this stuff? How did they not see this coming from a mile away? Why did they do nothing?
>flips>kills her career frick
>>79968050Uhhhh good luck Filly I got some uhhh stuff to do, see ya
>>79968050F
>>79968136no manager and management company is only one in name
>>79968050>flips>How do you say it's over in your language?
>>79968136see>>79965051
>>79968050snitches get stitches I hope the antis are happy
>>79968193Then what's the point of them if it isn't to notice things like this?
>>79968201they're never happy
>>79968050It's actually over this bitch is stupid she makes enough money for her own model why didn't she get one is she just lazy
>>79968223to set up brand deals. nothing more nothing less
Take a temporary hit, smooth out this mess, learn from it and be better.
>>79968096lol there's 0 chance she read anything on how she's supposed to use the model
>>79968245lazy and entitled. from everything i've watched of her it checks out
>>79968278Pretty much. Not like the trannies from twitter ever liked her in the first place, they just need something to seethe over.
>>79968223It’s gotten to the point where I have to assume that everyone else assumed that Filian wasn’t retarded enough to sell merch of something she didn’t own the rights to. I feel like everyone just figured that she had an agreement with the artists by now. Turns out that wasn’t the case and Filian is actually just extremely retarded.She 100% deserves to face backlash, even if just to hammer home how fucking stupid she is for this whole thing.
Neuro will break her out of jail
>>79968050>plushies>skins in a racing gameHMMMMMM, who could that possibly refer to?holy frick I love vtuber drama so much it's unreal
>>79966508As an artist myself I can see the point of this guy. Artist are getting fucked in the ass everywhere and be everyone, getting their art stole by AI and being sabotaged by social media algorithms. So the tiny work you produce is getting big exposure and you don't even get a small tip? No wonder they're going feral.
>>79968380imagine if this was all a stunt just to finally debut in an original model (that looks 99% like the rindo one but actually hers)
>>79967886>>79968133you are free to go back to bredditcoward
i don’t care that she abused copyrightwhat gets me mad is that this whole thing was entirely avoidableholy fuck she’s retarded
>>79968369Sure, someone's stupid, but people don't need to have terminal fucking meltdowns over this shit. People act like she walked into the artist's house and stabbed their dog to death but it's clear that they never really liked her in the first place. People stoking flames over nonsense that's easily resolved. >>79968411Vtubing's gotten way too popular and now you have the same slimeballs in this corner of the Internet that you do in others and it's really getting on my nerves.
>>79968050AWW FRICK
Don’t come back to /lig/ when your general dies out. We still don’t want you there.
>>79968463I think what makes this most irritating for people is that she's one of the biggest western vtubers and openly brags that she doesn't own the model, but will likely get away with selling merchandise of it.
>>79968533brutal
How would sex between Rindo and Mint mama with Filian pan out?
>>79968050Literal Who? This will have 0 effect on Fillian.
>>79968050Finally some good Filian content.Also what did this zoomer stockpile the money for?>Never payed royalties>Never paid for a custom modelIs it far fetched to think she's investing and not blowing all the money on gacha and coke?
>>79968604bdsm or oyakodon type sex?
>>79968533Not like it'd change the quality of that general by any noticeable amount.>>79968566Most people are fucking idiots that have and will continue to excuse anything and everything unless it happens to someone they don't like. Vtubing is just the latest stage for this circus.
>>79968623retard kun. that guy made this : https://booth.pm/ja/items/2258111
>>79968633well you gotta spend it on something... i would too tbdesu if i was filian
>>79968633She's low on the money because she bought a stake in Phase-Connect.
Is she gonna be smart enough to try and resolve this peacefully or is she gonna go full retard?
This thread is getting 3x more traffic than usual. You sisters are more addicted to drama than middle aged cat ladies.
>>79967306>less than 24 hoursSince the public knew about it. Jingo was trying to settle this quietly for much longer, but that wasn't working.
>>79968463>People stoking flames over nonsense that's easily resolved. We don’t know how it’s going to be resolved yet, could be easy or they could pursue serious legal action. No sense in downplaying it. Filian has very likely made more money selling merch of their IPs than they have selling their models and it’s no ones fault but Filian’s if they feel entitled to a large chunk of it.
>>79968498>>79968050>flips>steals your ip>lands in a lawsuit>rolls on the floor
>>79967556This has been well known for a long time.Just noone looked into the license agreement or connected the dots with the merch till recently.If she were a random 3-view it would've flown under the radar forever.
>>79968633>she's investinglol
>>79968800Well, since zoomers are all terrified of phone calls and emails, I'm guessing full retard.
>>79968633She has invested a bunch in her streaming; she's spent tens of thousands on all the hardware, she's had advertisements for the Awards show, she's commissioned art.She's actually paid a lot out to artists for art of her model, and some even for modifications of her model... Just none to the actual artist of her model
I do not respect intellectual property.
>>79968833We don't know that, that wasn't said in the tweet.
>>79968925based
>>79968925we know, filian
>>79968925Die, commie
>>79968837Like I said, easily resolved. If the aritst wants a chunk, then they have an avenue for that and filian will have to realize that she needs her own model if she wants to freely dole it out for merchandise. I would like to know the original agreement between Filian and the artist but that's likely not coming out.>Filian has very likely made more money selling merch of their IPs than they have selling their models and it’s no ones fault but Filian’s if they feel entitled to a large chunk of it.Depends on the agreement though I doubt it included things like merch.
>>79968633>Also what did this zoomer stockpile the money for?A fuckload of hardware.
>>79968925You're saying that just because you never had neither intellect nor property. Laugh at this poor and unintelligent!
What DEFCON is this?
>Intellectual property is theftWhat did she mean by this?
>>79969008>I would like to know the original agreement between Filian and the artist but that's likely not coming out.There wasn’t one.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/crx9Xmvue6IThoughts?
>>79969084I'm sure she mentioned something about being allowed to use the model to stream in.
>>79969035>you never had neither intellectSEAsl
>>79969064>the last threadwew son you niggas are crazy
>>79969110the usual license for those models usually allows streaming but not merch
>>79969151>He doesn't have 2 intellects inside his head.Me and my head friend are laughing at you!
>>79969109If she knew she never owned the model but kept doing merch deals despite that, she deserves everything that's coming.
>>79969110Just like she told good smile company that she owns itPirated the model by the way lmao she couldnt even bother paying $45
>>79969109...
>>79969178In that case, she can work with the artist to get them paid then I'm sure she'll have options if she wants to have her own model for merch.
>>79969109>her signature modelZoomers are so fucking retarded, I swear
>>79969213
>>79965028Nothing was stolen you fucking idiot. It's like saying digital piracy is real theft. They have lost NOTHING but a POTENTIAL profit. If I try and sell you a lemonade but you decide to make one yourself. You've just stolen my potential profit. That's fucking ludicrous.
>>79969064Defcon fucking 1 if she survives this she is never gonna be canceled by twitter troons.
>>79969277She literally pirated it though >>79969233
>>79969277the problem is that she actually got a hold of your lemonade
>>79965028>Waifu cup released>Silence>Makeship plush released>Silence>Nendo announced>WAITU DISSU MODELLU ISSU MINU
>>79969064The last thread on that list really gives away who at least half of that traffic is coming from. Sisters are still mad huh.
>>79969233that's a yikes from me filly
>>79969277>pirate model>deletes it and downloads it 9 more times>artist loses 600 korean dollars
>>79969404He is a nip to be fair. They live on a tiny little island in the middle of the ocean.
>>79969233I'm surprised no one at Good Smile had second thoughts about the ownership of her model.
>>79968657you stand by and defend your oshi no matter what even if she is wrong or fucked up otherwise they are not your oshi.
>>79969404>not by a japanese corp, not worth legal trouble>not by a japanese corp, not worth legal trouble>by a japanese corp, lmao get fucked
>>79969431I don't like blaming the same group for everything, but... sisters are the only group here that unironically uses Twitter for anything more than fanart and porn. And this thread is full of retards thinking the sky is falling because Twitter told them so.
>>79969404Nobody in Japan knew of filians existence until last month
>>79968833Jingo said in that tweet they didn't know until today
>>79968989I respect physical property.
>>79969517They probably trusted Mythic
>>79969570Other than the artist I guess?
>>79969233Someone send this directly to ringo holyshit is there a vod and timestamp for this?
>>79969517How did Good Smile not know of the artist?
>>79969352Newfag>>79969499So based.
>>79969404He's been constantly trying to get in contact with her and all the shit merch companies she signs with, but sure silence.
>>79969357Retard. If she had the lemonade. The artist would no longer have access to their lemonade to sell.
>>79969517>>79969685That will teach glorious Nipponese companies not to deal with the westerners.
>>79969770>He's been constantly trying to get in contact with her and all the shit merch companies she signs with, but sure silenceSource? If that's true I might buy her as my wife since she's gonna have to pay the guy all of her shekels and more.
>>79969771retard. there's an infinite supply of lemonade
>>79968463>Vtubing's gotten way too popular and now you have the same slimeballs in this corner of the Internet that you do in others and it's really getting on my nerves.I'm sorry to tell you, but the entertainment industry is just that way. That you thought vtubing was immune was kinda of naive. There is too much economic inequality to think situations where large amounts of money changing hands and IP is brought into question wouldn't have people who take advantage or have scrutiny.
>>79969404>>Waifu cup releasedNiche weeb shit that very few people are aware of >>Makeship plush releasedNiche weeb shit that very few people are aware of >>Nendo announcedMainstream appealYou're overestimating how popular vtubing is. Especially /lig/ers.
Don't worry guys, I will singlehandedly save Filian. I have a personal lawyer character AI and a cash to cover all the expenses 10 bucks
>>79969871>Literally infinite supply >Bitching about how you lost an infinitesimally small irrelevant portion of your INFINITE supply. lol lmao even
>>79969993k
>>79969874Yeah, it's the same sort of rot that's settling in and I fucking hate it, it's ruining a lot of nice things.
>>79969233>I paid 0 dollars for it!This is the humble japanese man, living in his one room apartment with no air conditioning, chairs, or forks and spoons she stole from for 3 years.
>>79969233I assumed she atleast bought it but with this she has literally violated every single stipulation in the vn3 license for that model. Good fucking job filian youre the perfect example of why all japs artists think westerners are uncultured niggers.
>>79970239korean actually, anon. you cant be racist now, its 2024
>>79970239damn...
>>79970317my bad, should add single, living in a country that's going to be extinct in 100 years to that too.
>>79961456i have no fucking clue what "closed species" are but i've heard of "adoptables" which are basically what you described but not limited to furries, so anyone on dA can design an OC, complete with a bio, furry or not, and sell them off to a willing buyeranyways i know nothing about filian except for a few funny videos that popped up on my youtube recommendation about her, but whether or not she got her current model for free, she still has to talk with the original artist if she wants to do anything with it besides just using it for her videos/streams (e.g. making merch out of it). neuro is still safe because there's really no merch, and i've also heard talks of neuro finally getting an original model/design although it's been a few months since i heard that and i still only see the free l2d model on her.
>>79970239She actually did buy it by the way. I know I'm not supposed to spoonfeed tourists. But filian does these things called bits where she doesn't tell the truth for comedic effect.
Filian just announced she will be live in an hour addressing the allegations.
>>79970469so sad...
>>79970515*flips*joke please laugh*pirates the model for a joke*just a joke bro*monetizes and tries to ship merch of stolen model*still a joke bro I'm a comedian
>>79970526That's kinda dumb. She should just settle it in private before saying dumb shit that could be used against her in court.
>>79970526Source?
who bakin
>>79970526>Inb4 she doubles down.
>>79970526announced it where?
>>79970630Yeah, very funny!
>>79970649>>79970697>>79970753Sister made it up, please use your brains.
>>79970753lol
>>79970526anon, stop listening to the voices
>>79970778FUCK
>>79970778I'm sorry. I'm nervous.
>>79970753>>79970697i guess she is supposed to have a just chatting stream later today as per her schedule on twitchImagine she just ignores the whole thing and goes on as if nothing is happening
>>79969640it was literally posted in this thread retardchama>>79967628
>>79970869pretty based ngl
>>79970869That's the smart thing to do. Lawyers tell you to shut up about these things.
>>79970869Will be hard to ignore thousands of people asking her why she is a thief. Its only more fuel for the fire
>>79970869Her chat is going to be worse than usual if she does that
>>79970869There's 100% going to be people in her chat being incredibly rambunctious
>>79968450It would actually be really funny, but I'm not sure if multiple entities would lie about that. One hell of an advertisement.
>>79970999It's much easier when the vast majority of those people are weirdo trannies that don't even watch her.
>>79970999It won't. There aren't thousands of you in the first place sister.
>>79970999this is how i know youre a tourist sisturd. filian viewers wouldn't give a shit and would probably just make fun of her
>>79970869Filians zoomer brain is probably gonna make her say some joke about the situation and make things worse
>>79971047she just appears like normal but in the new model in the next stream
I am glad aside from vtweeters nobody that matters like 4view indies is ridiculing her at least
>>79969270haha small titty bitch
>>79971247A whole lot of predebut vtrannies love dogpiling this shit on that dumpster fire website.
>>79971247i have unfollowed filian and will unfollow anyone who sticks with her from this point on forwardTHIS is not a fuck up, this was deliberate and she hoped the japanese artist wouldn't find out
>>79971247Give it time anon, someone is gonna get pressured enough to throw her under the bus.
>>79971381You never followed her in the first place, sister. You don't even know the artist is Korean.
>>79971247about that...
>>79971247Big vtubers tend to avoid drama shit. The Niji drama was peculiar and it took them numerous fuck ups for the whole industry to hate them. That being said maybe a few dramafags will cover this like False or Rev.>>79971381Ok larper.
>>79971459>ridiculingyeah...
>>79971459Look at the date you retarded tranny
>>79971459You posted this in another thread and still didn't look at the date even after people mentioned it at least edit the dates you lazy fuck.
>>79971459Based sexfox
>>79971205I know we're memeing but it would be the greatest bit in history. Though I do wish for a new model debut like dokis
>>79971723one can only hope
>>79971459Nice guess this is over for Griftian over here
>>79971769>>79971717Samefagging this hard
>>79971459ANNY OPEN YOUR FUCKING LEGS UGHHHHHHHHHHH
Why is everyone assuming this isn't gonna be worse then the shit she got for joking about Fentanyl Floyd?
>>79971800chill out vedal
>>79971381i REFUSE to continue being a virgin filian fan after this and will NOT stop having sex until she makes things right
>>79971812>things only twitter cares about>well except where all the BLM money went
>>79971839godspeed smacker
>79971799
>>79971812Because money is involved. Not only just some, but the basis of her livelihood.
>default Rindolmao
>>79970869There is a 0% chance of Filian being unable to say something about an elephant in the room
>79971920I took this pic from your pc you lying frick
>>79964709A-at least she did a flip...
A new thread has appeared!>>79972221>>79972221>>79972221
>>79963613Jingo has a monopoly on it being the exact same mesh data you retarded simp
>>79968623Lil Fil is dead bro...
inshallah filian will fix the copyright system in all of asia