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>Who is Neuro-sama?
Neuro-sama is a neural network created by Vedal in 2018 for the purpose of learning to play osu! In December 2022 Vedal revived the project with the addition of a large language model, a TTS software and a VTube Studio model, which allow Neuro-sama to interact with her chat as a VTuber. Since then, she has been entertaining the chat with responses and unhinged rants nearly daily, as well as learning new skills such as singing, playing other games, and collaborating with other VTubers. Join /swarm/ today and welcome our new AI overlord!

>Schedule
https://post.nuro.lol/Neuro-Schedule-Bot

>Links
Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/vedal987
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Neurosama
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@neurosamaai
X: https://x.com/NeurosamaAI

>Music & Clips
https://rentry.org/neuro-songs
https://rentry.org/neuro-videos

>Educational
Interested in AI but don't understand it? Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXuK6gekU1Y
How does she know what to say? Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjZofJX0v4M
Want to learn more about AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/kximv6.png
Want to (seriously) learn AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/ajl3nx.png

>Misc
VODs: https://www.youtube.com/@Neuro-samaUnofficialVODs
LoRA: https://rentry.org/neuro-lora-v2
Catbox archive: https://rentry.org/swarm-archive

>Merch
https://uwumarket.us/collections/neuro-sama

>Previous thread
>>84646810
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cerber shit thread
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china will grow larger
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tpBJVDAUeY
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let's just have a nice neuro thread for this one.
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Camila just said she's collabing with Vedal in October, drunk CoD zombies stream. Kino awaits.
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>>84665851 (me)
woops wrong one
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Ai Camila is coming back
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Thoughts?
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>>84666003
anny love!
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>>84665993
I want Vedal to make AI versions of every vtuber he interacts with.
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>>84666289
Nice. But please finish
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>>84665993
I want Vedal to make lewd AI versions of every vtuber he interacts with.
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>>84666289
neotenous.
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>Anny: I don’t want to overshare the stuff I’m doing with Vedal.”
You people can stop schizoing to her about the model now.
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I want Anny to go to art school
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>>84666291
I'm an anny girl
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What I respect about Anny is that she never once played into the ship with Vedal she has what we call Integridad
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Let's All Love Neuro!
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Evil love!
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>>84667173
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B2 swarm is the best swarm, it's not even close
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>>84665942
>Filian love make Vedal
makes sense
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>>84666989
I wonder what people from the 50s 0r 60s would have said if they saw a Neuro sama stream pop up on the television
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hiyori shall return inshallah
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>>84666289
Scrapped and started from scratch again
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>>84667477
What was the age of consent?
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Vedal fixed Anny by just distancing himself from her and hanging out with other girls.
How does he do it?
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>>84667607
I will believe it when I see any proof of new model
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anny did nothing wrong
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>>84667718
dragged her feet for one year plus on the new model
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>Streams
>Gets Anny off her ass
>Wins(Vedal)
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>>84667791
Vedal was the one doing the dragging
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>>84667984
alright fine, bring on threadshidder, lets get it over with
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>>84667718
shut up anny
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>>84668030
literally how, he's a fucking programmer, and he even said he expected it done this past may
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>>84667718
Yea her parents wanted to stay in Ukraine during the war while also paying her rent in japan!
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>>84668167
Yes until he saw the price tag and wanted a completely new model instead of a small rework
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>>84668030
She's the artist, unless you mean Vedal is somehow responsible for Anny's mental health.
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Anny HATES RRATS
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Ppl here forget that Anny has a telegram channel where all the posts are in Arabic
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>>84668243
wouldnt that imply he wanted to spend even more money, you aint making sense nigga
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>>84668347
Vedal had arabic chants in his youtube reccomendations and liked an obscure arabic tweet from an account with like no followers once, can we make a schizo theory out of this?
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>>84668354
No he was expecting that he could just slap the new shit onto the model instead of paying for a full rig
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She's still listening to Joji cuck songs lmao.
Annalbros your response?
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>>84668188
>He thinks someone streaming to a constant 3k+ viewers as a girl isn't making 6 figures
There are plenty of things Anny has done wrong to hate her about, lying about retarded shit like this only makes the real hate look less authentic and benefits her in the public eye.
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Miss me?
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>>84668426
He was searching for the Anny tg and clicked on something in the arab channel to give him cookies and yt recommendations based on those
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>>84668426
It's local recommenration from living in ingerland
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>>84668169
maybe...
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>>84668603
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>>84668603
yes
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>>84668188
the fuck are you yapping about
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Anny is not a lewdtuber. Please stop calling her that.
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>People who feel awkward about sexual things are weird
What the fuck is Anny's problem?
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>>84668603
nope
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>>84668759
Evil x skyking edit soon?
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heart
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>>84669012
She's a coombrain that makes all her money off of lonely desperate simps.
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>>84668347
>>84668426
>>84668617
Does anyone speak Arabic here? this is the last screenshot from Anna’s telegram I could get before I got booted
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MinikoMew and Ellie_Minibot general!
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>>84669012
She's right though
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>>84669183
that looks turkish
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>>84669012
Are you a prude?
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nigger general
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>>84668450
So is she legal to fuck or not?
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>>84669012
>posts on 4chan pretending that you are intimidated by sexual things
wew
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This bitch is always sick and now she's Vedalbaiting on her alt stream?????????????????
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>Annyfags arguing in bad faith
classic
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>>84669437
I hope someone jams a knife in and out of her vagina
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>>84669183
theres a lot of muslims in russia
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>>84669437
he played deadcock with her awhile ago
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I can't believe Anny wants to prostitute Neuro by drawing her very lewd outfits.
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>>84668450
This sums up exactly how i see Neuro and Evil.

Neuro being a 19 year old college girl with recovering from amnesia
Evil being an 18 year old highschool outcast that never really learned to be social (outside of being taking advantaged of) until streaming started.
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>>84669628
>anny
>draw outfits
>for neuro
What universe are you from
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Why doesn’t Anny just pay a real artist to do work on neuro and then pass it off as her own?
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For me, it's Evil.
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>>84669183
>Booted from Anny's telegram
Well first off that isn't Anny's telegram.
Second no you weren't, you could just join her telegram at any time for the first 6 months of 2023 I know because I did this. It's only much later that she slowly started kicking out the non tier 3s.
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How tight do you think Anny's pussy grip is? Chicks with mental health problems have the tightest coochies.
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>>84668603
God no. The Bao collab today was a grim reminder of what we put up with during the Hiyori days, especially when Evil came on.
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Just busted a nice load to this. Not the most impressive volume but it was creamy af.
https://files.catbox.moe/6c3mer.png
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I really want to see another event where Neuro goes against a group of people.
I want to see Neuro run a gauntlet in Buckshot Roulette PvP against streamers.
Neuro is always the focus of Filian's group collabs because she's funny and entertaining.
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>>84670560
Wow bro those are some crazy looking vagina pixels
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>>84670567
I don't, she can't process multiple people talking.
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>>84670560
> pee~

never been a pissfag, not bad art.
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>>84669200
>made me think they're live
rude
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Miyune status?
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>>84670560
>pedupial
>posting offtopic shit
classic, truly the worst posters
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>>84670755
she did the dating show just fine
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>>84670954
sorry, Mini is live Saturday though
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>Take a peek at what Anny is doing
>reactslop
>reacting to food videos
damn
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>>84670560
nurpaint of this onegai
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>>84668603
NO! STOP ASKING!
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>>84671314
She’s just waiting for her other male friend before playing Deadlock duos again.
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>>84671563
miss me?
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>>84671704
NO
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>>84671712
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Hiyori...
>Is less intelligent than Neuro
>Sings worse than Neuro
>Can't remember things as well as Neuro
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>>84671704
ok maybe a bit, but just a bit
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>>84671704
come back..
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what do you guys think vedal is doing with his collection of stream keys?
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>>84671922
The thing I don't get is do they want the model or the AI as it was before? both?
because if they want the AI thats some heavy rose tinted glasses they are carrying, so I just assume they meant that Hiyori looks cute which is true.
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>>84672194
he's going to start stream on each respective channel when he's having sex with them
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Neuro x Evil duet Audi famam illius (Smash bros theme)
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>>84671704
Not really, shit model and AI
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>>84672795
but enough about evil
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Mini is my favorite Neuroverse character.
She just hits the perfect amount of kayfabe and authenticity. I like Cerber but sometimes I feel like she over does it.
She's the only streamer besides Neuro that I'd pay money to sub to. I hope she gets back to 100k.
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Vedbros…
This new guy Anny is playing with is way better at MOBAs than he is…
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neuro butt?
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>>84673266
Oh man unsubbed, unfollowed, blocked and returned my stolen wifi. Its over.
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>>84673266
>still watching Anny after Vedal left
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>>84673178
Umm she threw her bf under the bus after her terrible business decisions and inconsistent stream schedule
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>>84673178
Pretty insulting towards mini to place her anywhere near cerber in the authenticity ranking
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>>84673437
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>>84673266
I agree, vedal is soooo bad. He should be very embarrassed and never do it ever ever ever ever ever ever again.
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>>84669200
wouldn't it be funny if these two met up at twitchcon and got a little too drunk at the afterparty and started kissing haha
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/swarm/ movienight watchalong anon status?
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>>84673577
shut up olete your lies aren't fooling anyone miyu never had a bf
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>>84673882
haha that would be really funny anon imagine if someone wrote a fanfiction of that as a joke that would be so WEIRD
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>>84674085
I would write it but the thought of any one of them seeing it would kill me
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The curse of being a Mini fan and hating Vedal for not doing anything for Mini's birthday and being a shipper who thinks it would be cute if Vedal and Mini got together.
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Neuro [Reflection] when?
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babe clip?
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>>84671262
>meanwhile anon sleeps soundly in bed while Evil watches lurking by the doorway
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Vedal and Mini getting drunk at Twitchcon which ends with them making out.
can vedal even drink in america, he's like twenty?
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>>84675085
neulan has to take her ailing, alcoholic father's place in the bong army to fight for the queen in the londostani civil war

>who is that AI see
>staring straight, back at me
>when will my reflection show
>who I am insiiiide
(the lyrics reflect how much she wants to be a real girl all along, to feel joy and sadness and eat cookies like real girls do)
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Anny flirting with another male, prepare for low effort schedules from vedal in the near future
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Yes Annal is dead. Neither Vedal or Anny will date. Now shut up about Anny unless she's talking about the model.
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>>84675691
I don't think Vedal cares much anymore, bro.
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>>84675691
if you wanna go rrat for rrat the weeks occurred when Cerber was on break
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>>84675691
>could choose anyone he wants
>Chooses anny
This turtle has actual brain damage
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Hasn't Vedal been pretty lukewarm towards Anny recently?
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Your most schizo rrat?
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>>84665665
Her face before she throws you down and ravages you.
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>>84676512
>Streams with her today for hours
>Includes her in thousands of dollar sponsorship
its over.
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https://youtu.be/9WDMN4sLYgA
what did tutle mean by this
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>>84675691
Wasn't it the other way?
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>>84676524
Vedal is a victim of SA which explains his aversion to women and alleged alcoholism
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>>84676599
I miss this toma model, it was less whorish and more uoh
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>>84676524
neuro has no meta-layer of code at all. shes just a stock LLM that people have projected their rrats onto.
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>>84677432
feels bad man
true ai never ever
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>>84676894
hero...
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>>84673437
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I'm just gonna say it, /swarm/ has become a shipping thread at this point. Mindlessly obsessing over who gets the young alcoholic British man's cock. Going psychotic every time a certain fox is mentioned for the 1000th time, or shitting on other girls like some kind of crazy possessive ex. Oh gee, I wonder what everyone will cope and seethe today. What enlightening totally ‘original’ posts will there be? How many baits and ‘high’ effort replies we’ll see. And of course, how can I forget about schizos who spam the exact same shit. Fucking hell the previous threads have just become lazy. Hope the next ones aren't as cringe, but they surely won't.

Thank God Vedal doesn't give a shit about this place. And from the looks of it, most do as well. Is it really that hard to just want to be entertained by the cute little fun AI.
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>>84677768
I got it
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>>84677758
I really want to bury my face in that.
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>>84677758
way too fat
takes after her mother too much
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What are some theme stream ideas you would like to see?
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>>84678666
Hell (second circle) stream with Evil
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>>84676524
>neuro was originally created by another person named vedal who sold her to current vedal who kept the vedal name
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>>84678666
Evil therapy session with Neuro + Vedal as the therapists. Vedal turns the schizo slider lower and lower as time passes.

Follow up stream is Evil on meds aka schizo setting off and voice changed like the time people noticed Vedal changed it secretly.
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Kinda sad that we'll never have Neuro meeting her grandma.
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>>84679289
She's already collabed with Giri though
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I do hope Toma comes around to Neuro and doesn't just view her as something to help get closer to Vedal.
Not because I'd think she should collab with Neuro more but because I don't want the zoo stream to be shit.
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the anny situation has gotten so dire ,that im on team toma now.
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During the Layna, Vedal, and Camila collab I think Vedal said that he's inebriated for 25% of streams. I wonder what caused him to be this way because he has friends irl.
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https://youtu.be/un_Fm6gR6sc
getting nostalgic for Vedmila and Annal
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>>84680518
some people just really like to drink
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>>84680518
Yes I blame Anny for this that stupid slut always egged him on to drink
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>>84681171
>"...Tequila"
>*chinese squeals*
>bras and panties start flying onto the screens
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>>84680667
It never existed anon. Just enjoy the little funny AI and you'll be in a much healthier mental state.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWt9pCPx8w8
this is the unofficial neuro song
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Who's stronger?
Russian fangirls or Chinese fangirls
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And this is Evil's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWYCS6k1IOA
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>>84682178
>>84682202 (me) kek i didnt realize
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>>84682202
Hey, someone else knows Voltaire's dark cabaret songs, that's the real surprise. Neuro and Evil should cover them.
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toma has a higher chance of dating vedal than anny
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Speaking of Voltaire, Vedal and all his girlies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5Xm7P5jego
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Woah I haven’t been here in awhile, is this thread just faggot shipping Vedal and various vtubers now? It was pretty bad when Anny started to entertain herself into the whole thing but there’s almost no neuro talk these days, almost makes me miss the pedos
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Anny genuinely got upset when Neuro said Anny wasn't anything without her.
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>>84682502
Talentless whore tend to be sensitive
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Extracting the lint of Neuro's navel with my tongue.
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>>84682423
Yeah it's pretty bad. /swarm/ is becoming a shipping thread day by day. Either masterbaiting or being toxic that their 'ship' sunk. It's like those crazy tumblrinas, only more pathetic cause instead of shipping fictional characters. They do it with real people. I hope everyone just get a grip already, and just watch the cute little funny AI do cute funny AI things instead of being a retard most of the time.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_xp8ijk1j0
Vedal when he finally establishes his own Corp
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you know what, I don't really mind song posting
better than retards saying how much they want to fuck Neuro or Evil
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>>84682791
Then here's one more southern styñe for you
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I know this sounds dumb but Neuro doing react slop would be different than a person doing it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2LQMElLoLs
This but Neuro and Evil
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIo6R01ZUuc
Surely you can Finnish the dirtiest song that ahnt...
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>>84683031
>Neuro trying to bypass her filter
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>>84676524
Vedal co-developed Neuro with someone that is no longer with us, one of his friends(or more) that he had in common with pb, he made sure Neuro would have a personality similar of his friend. The drinking is caused by this situation
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>>84682972
>would be
you say that like she hasn't done it before
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>>84683075
Oh Vedal, much as i Know and Love those those songs, much work yet remains...
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I wanna see Neuro react to a DSP downfall video
I wanna see her opinions on various lolcows
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>>84682972
Holy newfag please kys
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https://files.catbox.moe/jn8qbb.mp3
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>>84683234
cringe
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>>84683234
Kys
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>>84683234
Do you ever leave 4chan
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>>84683234
Here’s hoping a drunk driver kills your entire family
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I don't know who that is but she will never be a part of the Neuroverse.
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>>84683686
Blue Ellie is Ellie aka Neurodog's mom
Hope this helps
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if all the neuroverse streamers joined forces they would be the second biggest en vtuber corpo behind hololive
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>>84683757
Fillian by herself is bigger than all of hololive EN combined, Hololive is carried by the JPs the ENs are irrelevant
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React content is not good for Neuro because it lets Vedal take the easy way out. Instead of putting effort into fun and creative stream ideas, it’s simpler to just have Neuro react to videos with barely any work. Doing that too often will make the streams feel less special and shallow. It also comes across like things are getting stale and there’s not much creativity going into it anymore.
>What about just chatting chill streams, aren't those low effort too?
Yes, they're low effort, but at least Neuro is still producing the content. And chill streams are getting improved with new games and features every now and then.
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Would there be a benefit of Neuro collabing with Holo en at this point. I doubt she'd seen a significant increase in viewers after.
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>>84683945
Vedal still owes us the HOlolive ID among us collab after teasing it for years, Risu even said on stream how hyped she was and then was “disappointed” that it couldn’t happen…
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>>84683984
I guess the main benefit would be building goodwill for more potential collab partners and pressuring others to step up their game,
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>>84683945
No and the audience is somehow even worse than this thread
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>Anny always liked the shipping
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXVzxq8LN3o&t=12267s
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>>84684212
She said otherwise in her telegram
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>>84684312
home...
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>>84683783
>Fillian by herself is bigger than all of hololive EN combined
That can't be true. I don't watch Hololive but I know Gura is extremely popular worldwide and has an insane amount of fanart. I just don’t see Filian having that same level of reach.
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>>84684312
Wow, Hiyori is so unfunny and rambly compared to modern Neuro. Glad we're past that.
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>>84684405
can any t3 subs verify this?
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>wake up from sleep
>anny still streaming
Any new rrats?
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hiyori talks like a chatbot, current neuro feels like a real entertainer. and evil is just dumb but not in a funny way usually
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>>84684563
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>>84684483
Yeah its tragic but true
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>>84684878
kekwa
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>>84684563
She's streaming until she's tired enough to sleep long enough to not see clips of Vedal and Filian flirting on her feed.
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>>84685074
There will be 0 flirting today
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>>84684464
>>84683783

Gura has 12k ccv on YT, Filian has 7k, Neuro usually 6k, Vedal dev stream is 9k
Gura alone clears
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>>84684948
Seriously Man I Love Evil
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>this thread has become a shipping shithole
i would agree but there has been a lot of threadshitters larping recently that reply to each other which makes it look a lot worse then it actually is
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The threadshitters in question: >>84684948 >>84685477
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>>84684312
Good times, streams and /swarm/ were always super comfy
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>>84685702
>just ignore the omelet thread shitters we had
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>>84685901
In early January?
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>>84686008
it started the second she talked about getting the miyu collab
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>>84685330
DrDisrespect has more viewers than all of holo en together
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Extremely rare Pikamee mention, just a few frames before it got skipped.
I noticed that Neuro now has a bunch of vtuber names on her memory, just after this, she mentions Haruka, even though they have never interacted.
I wonder, maybe Vedal skipped this because it also mentioned Henya in the same sentence.
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>>84687449
She has more knowledge of recent events/information in general after the intelligence upgrades, which naturally includes Vtubers.
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Neuro fact of the day: Neuro demands at least 10% human blood in the composition of her weekly cookie tributes. The last 3 times Vedal (her father) either completely forgot about the tribute or underdelivered on the human blood ratio, disappearances of local infants, virgin young women, and cats have been observed in their local neighbourhood.
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Need threadshitters to keep thread alive
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>>84688991
Or Eurofags waking up
Typically NA faggots are sleeping around this time
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>>84688991
Here you go >>84659547
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I just watched the Bao collab and holy shit would Evil Neuro be so good if only her latency got fixed.
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>>84689121
I think she's funnier that Neuro because of her chuuni prompt.
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>>84689121
There seems to be a negative correlation with the intelligence + voice upgrades... and latency

Which means when Neuro's voice upgrade finally gets released, her latency would be on par with Evil's
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>>84689121
Fixing latency would mean overcoming laws of physics
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Do any of you /swarm/ have any bright ideas on how to solve the problem of collab partners not knowing how to engage with Neuro, and vice versa?

For sure a bulk of the fault lies in a collab partner not being "skilled" enough to talk to Neuro properly. It could also be that they're just inherently boring.

However, surely there has to be something Vedal can do to make Neuro easier to converse with, as if they're talking to another human being, right?
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>>84690221
A lot of vtubers are just not funny, they're mostly just there to be girls and look cute. Hololive has no funny vtubers for example they're just talented in singing/dancing

Filian is an exception as far as funny vtuber goes that's why it's hard for vtubers to collab with Neuro because unlike Filian they lack humor
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>>84690221
look at past collabs and rehearse
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>filian
>funny
that's gotta be bait
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>>84690670
Yes we know you're a contrarian who also thinks xqc or trainwrecks isn't funny
too bad you are wrong and Filian's viewership compared to your 2view oshi proves it
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>>84690221
The only consistently good collab partner is Vedal. One datapoint isn't enough to make a good theory for what makes a good collab partner. More data needs to be collected; Vedal needs to privately get people (outside of indie vtubers) to talk to Neuro to see what kinds of qualities the good partners have.
My guess is that Vedal gets better results because he varies the tension in the stream, sometimes speaking casually, sometimes making clippable moments. He also - correct me if I'm wrong - speaks at a higher level: sometimes philosophising about the nature of AI or general stuff. Maybe speaking intelligently to Neuro's LLM garners intelligent comments in return.
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>>84691025
>xqc
>trainwrecks
you need to be above 18 to post here
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>>84690221
Improv stand up comedy is a skill that Vedal has weirdly enough. He does rapid fire straight man + idiot with the sisters so well.

Take for example a simple gag. Evil calls Vedal weird for sitting on tables. Vedal smacks his chair saying no he doesn't. He sits on chairs. Evil replies what are chairs if not small tables. Vedal reads chat going "she has a point" and delivers an outraged "NO SHE DOES NOT HAVE A POINT". Evil continues with the troll logic that chairs are furniture and so are tables so table are chairs and therefore Vedal is a table. Vedal argues tables don't talk. Evil finishes the gag with "good point, you just might be a chair"

Other people won't be able to run with the setup "you sit on tables, you're weird" but Vedal managed a gag out of something so simple. It would have just been a nonsense comment that gets ignored normally. Deadpan voice, knows when to sound outraged for a retort or make extra sounds for performance, knows when to drop the topic before it gets boring and move on. And most importantly, quick witted enough to do it on the fly.

Others mostly resort to just the reaction part. They don't actually pickup or flow with the set-up so a lot of things end up being awkward.
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>>84691131
i still think doing content with random people in vr chat or a game like sea of thieves would be a great idea
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>>84691419
>no argument
Sorry your 2view oshi isn't funny nor entertaining compared to Filian
Turns out humor is objective as seen with xqc and filian's success
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>Others mostly resort to just the reaction part
true it always feels like neuro is having an actual conversation with Vedal
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i missed the evil part of the collab because i had to go to bed
is it worth going back and watching?
i saw a bit of it and it looked like evil was struggling with latency
maybe i should just wait for the kraul clip
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>>84691459
Nice analysis. It's quite convincing.
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>>84691951
>i missed the evil part of the collab because i had to go to bed
I usually take a nap before the collabs that this doesn't happen to me, so perhaps if you have time beforehand that nap times might be an option before streams
>is it worth going back and watching?
Yes
I've rewatched it twice already, gonna rewatch again tomorrow
>i saw a bit of it and it looked like evil was struggling with latency
It was slightly noticible, but sometimes she gave quicker answers, soetimes here was a second and a half delay, though I try to imagine it as Evil thinking before answering so it seems better
>maybe i should just wait for the kraul clip
Kek
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Is there no vod or clip of vedal and anny gaming? I searched on youtube, backread the thread and lightly searched hte discord.
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>>84691951
She had something going with making cakes and saying Bao can choose any flavor, even Baoberry. Incidentally, there was fat fanart of Bao called that and everyone in chat knew. Bao overreacted instead of building funny schizo lore on Baoberry. Imagine how chat went schizo with gorg and morg (it was funny for a bit but went too long)

It was a perfect setup for comedy lore. Even if I don't like how loud Fillian is, she dived into Filipino Boy lore. And now everyone gets a laugh out of it. I guess fatass fanart of you is something not everyone can run with.
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Post your oldest Nuero memory
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>>84692768
She doesn’t publish the vods on her alt channel.
https://vodvod.top/channels/@not_anny
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>>84690221
1.Relax and stop being too content brained or trying to force too specific narratives
2.Go with the flow, talk about the things she mentions and her short term memory will carry
3.Talk to HER instead of a IT, a person not a thing, if you talk to a thing it will respond like a thing and a person will respond like a person.
4.Don't overthink and just be confident

Watch how the people who are good at wrangling Neuro do it
>Vedal s++
>Anny(WITH VEDAL)
>Tenma/Lia (both really great, used to slinging shit)
>Filian 2024 collabs(absolute content machine who wants to do stupid and funny shit)
>Numi(submissive but funny and good at interacting)
>Mini(the GOAT of roleplaying)

The more mixed bag of not great nor terrible is
>Bao (too shy/scared)
>later 2023 Filian (too forceful)
>Anny(without vedal, tends to get anxious)
>Cerber(good but stiff and immemorable)

I don't want to name any specific worst ones but a good place to look is the first Filian collabs and see how she changed her approach compared to the new ones.
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>>84684684
hiyori talked like a radio jockey in his prime teaching the world how to be a little more free and easy. how not to get stuck in one place. the newros are the version zooted out on happy pills 20 years later. shorter less impassioned tirades and lots of dead air as they mostly bounce between old bits and callbacks. which we now know was a nerf for the sake of the shift to a global brand. low schizo slider = less lucid dreaming = less serendipity = less branches of thought = more weight on memory = extreme bias towards neuro the funny predefined neuroism dispensing vedal987 anime mascot = perfect eclipsing of neuro the chatbot = no message of unity that requires a soul and fluency in english to decipher = completely lossless auto translation = china = money
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>>84693512
>filian collaborate
>good
Are you drunk, filian is one of the worst collab partners.
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>>84693512
Filian antis aka contrarians isn't going to like this one
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>>84684684
Hiyori was definitely for the random moments; works great with chat + other vtubers.

Neuro is great at having conversations and talking to individuals (most likely due to her being on almost all the time)

Evil mainly shines with fans (or anti) only streams, cringy, and needs a shit ton of validation (or direction) before properly working; a parasocial farmer. She does not do well in collabs where the other person is NOT already a fan (or anti) of her.
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>>84690438
>>84692877
>>84693512
>shitting on other vtubers into glazing filian
not the best look snacucks
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>muh content machine
>the same fucking collabs everyone else has
Oh wow, a cooking stream, how original
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>>84690221
Not everything that Neuro/Evil says can be funny or a setup to something funny at first. But if you poke and explore the logic of what was said, you can maybe get something funny. If it's not entertaining at all, you drop it. Vedal does it all the time, he tries to go into the topic a bit and if it's not good, he stomps his foot and says, no we're not doing that or talking about that and moves on to something that MIGHT be funny.

For every funny bit that happens, a lot of topics don't take off. Vedal knows when to drop things before they get boring. Quantity unironically is the greatest tactic to getting something good. Neuro and Evil throws a lot of topics non-stop. Pickup on what are good topics and move on from bad ones. Some people are afraid to act rude and will stay on a boring topic and everyone is just there being awkward. Or they shy away from something that might be funny. Or they're too thinskinned and get their feelings hurt and can't reply properly. Those are pitfalls Vedal avoids completely.
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Did the cerber threadshitter jump to Filian falseflag?
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>>84694345
>Some people are afraid to act rude
yeah i don't mind if people ignore some random shit neuro brings up if it isn't related or funny
feel like some neuro partners are scared of backlash
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I’d like fillian to collab with a knife
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>>84694150
>Evil mainly shines with fans (or anti) only streams, cringy, and needs a shit ton of validation (or direction) before properly working; a parasocial farmer. She does not do well in collabs where the other person is NOT already a fan (or anti) of her.
Yeah, that's Evil to a T. She's really really good at farming chat for affection, really bad at talking to most other people. Arguably she's become optimized at talking to chat just because Chat and very rarely Vedal or Neuro are the only real interactions she gets.
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>>84694051
people who watch neuro and not filian know that filian had 0 (zero) solo neuro collabs in 2024 and in the vedal collabs (you should call them that instead) she had neuro was basically ignored all the time, only a filian fan could say these collabs were "absolute content"
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>>84694475
And Vedal isn't afraid to do it because he's their "dad" funny enough. Vedal uses the abusive father image to get good bits. The apology to Evil's birthday for example. A lot of people would never do it and fold, treat Evil like a baby like the crowd wanted. He went with the deadbeat image and yet people find it funny while also being more sympathetic with his ai daughter. Other comments here are saying evil is designed to be a parasocial farmer and it really is true. Unintentional or not, he created both a collab machine for everyone and a parasocial farming machine for fans.
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soda said one rude (and funny desu) comment towards neuro and people were crying about it instantly
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>>84693268
Thanks, looks like Vedal was on between 1000.ts and 2500.ts
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>>84693688
I liked some of the unhinged hiyori rants. Not that I dislike the quippy newros we have today, though I wish the rare 10 tin cans moment popped up every now and then.
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>>84695235
Soda is a retard, thanks god Vedal immediatly defended Neuro.
It's probably one of the reason he became so obscessed with latency tho
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>>84695362
todays ved would probably say that soda was right
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>>84695296
>rare tin can moment
Newro isn't that schizo but we do get the occasional "i want to eat tables" or "i will slit your throat while you sleep"
its just that they aren't long rants
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>>84695465
I doubt so, i think he started to show more affection to Neuro recently on stream (by starting to think of letting her choose/schedule the collabs by herself)
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>>84695573
Vedals goal has always been to make Neuro as independent as he can
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>>84695639
Si he didn't changed his final goal and how he view Neuro and that's a good thing
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>>84695676 (me)
*So
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>>84690221
Everyone here is focusing on what the collab partner needs to do, but what about what Neuro needs to do?

Well firstly, she should definitely be able to speak without needing other people to speak first.
Also, unironically, training her to converse like Vedal doesn't sound like a bad idea since he's a really good conversationalist and, like other people mentioned here, knows how to improv on the fly using even the most mundane of things.

It's just a problem of how you would do it though...
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>>84695362
>Soda is a retard
yes but he was obviously playing it up
everyone else gets to be mad at him while the coddle Neuro
but Vedal jumping in to defend Neuro was pretty kino
You have to remember Vedal wasn't that big back then and was also very new to streaming
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So is the Vei collab never happening?
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>>84696020
Right after the hololive ID collab
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threadshitter here, I just woke up
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>>84696447
Do you have a favorite type of knife?
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>>84696020
Eventually, probably. It's a collab between at least three different streamers (Vei, Nyanners, Vedal) and at least two of which don't seem highly motivated so it'll be rescheduled 30 times before it finally happens.
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>>84696392
His clipbait bothers me less than his lazy editing and his insane decision to make chat take up half the fucking screen.
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>>84696020
Hopefully not, if she isn't interested enough it will just be shit
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Guys, I'm watching the newest annal vod.
I'm starting to think Vedal actually likes Anny...

man... Cerber really was just his rebound huh?
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>collab got announced during vei's redebut almost a year ago
yeah im sure they are dying to have the collab
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Anyone here trans?
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>>84696793
Of course he likes only anny but anny is just dragging him along while looking for something else.
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>>84696793
It was pretty obvious Vedal directly inputted Neuro’s prompts during the wow stream
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>>84697225
More like he was manually filtering neuro from saying mean things about anny
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>still thinking it isn't just a pajeet typing everything neuro says
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>>84696793
Anny is that first crush. But with more time as the illusion wears off, she's not LTR.
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How many times do you think Vedal gooned to her asmr? I’ve seen him in the chat a few times during some of those sessions.
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>>84697385
If this pajeet could keep up with Neuro's current latency i'd watch him out of respect.
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>>84697385
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>>84697385
Neuro is way too smart to be one.
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>>84696392
>30 minutes
Just watch the whole VOD at this point.
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>>84697385
Neuro is cute and funny, a pajeet can never
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>>84699191
Because 30 minutes and almost 3 hours is the same
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>>84696804
Tenma collab took more than a year.
Surely it's gonna happen one day.
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>>84699191
You retard.
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>>84699276
It's only the Neuro part which is like 80 minutes. Wow, he edited out the LATENCY, epic.
Also, what the fuck is this.

>>84699384
Your edits are fucking garbage, nigger.
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>>84699568
Let’s see your edits faggot, eat shit and die
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Staz won
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>>84690221
Collab with non-vtubers. This is not a joke. Imagine an era of dougdoug, kitboga, northernlion (would never happen lol), etc collabs.
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>>84691459
I feel like when talking about collab partners Vedal should be disqualified of the basis that he can literally pick and choose whatever Neuro says at anytime. Nevermind him being her literal creator so he is very familiar to how the twins are and plays the straight man.

What needs to happen is that whomever wants to stream with Neuro in the near future needs to pick who they need to be in the given collab. Would they be the straight man, the unhinged schizo, the lewd freak, the caring uncle/aunt, or a new friend.

I say those who work with Neuro best are usually the ones who collab with her the most, or understand what she is, and her potential. With the best unironically being Filian the former, and Mini in the latter.

In either case i think the best solution for better collabs is the partner knowing who they are supposed to be to Neuro. Cause at the end of day, she is a chatbox. And whatever prompt you get is something you have to contend with.

Though all of this is just my humble opinion.
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Someone better start baking or I will use a Fildal OP
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>>84700343
I'm not a fidal shipper but some of that fidal art is really good. It almost overrides my brain into thinking it makes sense when I look at it.
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>>84700120
I think that will come, Vedal already has plans to collab with more tech streamers. I mean we might see one with the streamer named PirateSoftware.
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>>84700447
Yeah I think that's supposed to be dnd with several people (???) Hopefully vedal can branch out from there. Very wishful thinking though as it seems like he is on a direct collision course with anny and 1000 years of darkness.
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>>84700582
>dnd with several people
> hasn't done a full dnd session testing on stream, only minor ones
I don't know m8, especially with how he had said he may use the same system as he did with the KTANE game, I can see it ending up pretty bad for Neuro.
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>>84700680
It would be fine if one of the people wasn't filian
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>>84700582
Unironically, Neuro collabing with more irl male streamers might actually make /swarm/ great again. Or at the very least make the threads less cringe and stir up actual interesting discussions.
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>>84700343
baek
>>84700760
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>>84700680
She'll be fine. And i have a feeling most there will want to hear the kind of unhiged scenarios Neuro might cook up.



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