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>he thinks 50 questions will make a differencekek you have no idea how many marshmallows jps send do you
>>86372302Remember when everyone thought all the menhera Ruffians would oshihen to her during that period after Justice debuted where FWMC didn't stream much?
28 fully EN questions sent, all varying lengths.Send those EN questions. Make them all medium length and oberly wordy so its hard "to translate" if they decide to spit on us and translate our questions. Lets see how much they actually appreciate their own fans. I'll be sure to mark every single question of mine they read and translate. We'll see how much they actually care about their fans
>>86372619>28Those are baby numbers.
>>86372469Well they specifically mentioned that they want ALL questions to be short because they're preparing for a deluge and want to quickly answer as many questions as possible.
easiest soul read of a jp schizo ever1 entire minute early
>>86372497>she's stealing all the paypigs!!!!! it's so over for FWMC!!!!
>>86372707True, but the number is growing and will grow throughout the day when I think of new questions to ask.I'm basically asking literally everything I can think of from. People overestimate just how many maros theyll be getting in a single day. Not many JPs follow them religiously enough to flood them
I don't have any questions that haven't already been answered, so hopefully other people can get some interesting ones in.
>>86372619>us
>>86372882BAU BAU
>>86372887You should send that as a maro, like when they ask people to send them something on twitter and people reply just to say "I'm sure some ruffian will help"
>>86372619I'll submit some short questions with prepackaged JP translations accompanying them for a smooth process, how does that suit you, JP Schizo?
>>86372848Justice as a whole lags behind advent quite abit when it comes to superchats.
I submitted all of my questions in Japanese
>>86373046Now there's an idea, might just do that kek
>>86373127You can do whatever you want and larp as much as you want, but the reality is you more than likely havent sent a single question.I have sent many and will continue to do so.
>>86373235I will laugh if none of yours get picked.
>>86373169baused
>>86373235I mean, the fact that I haven't sent any yet was implied in my post, JP Schizo-kun.
>>86373284Well yeah? I doubt any will, because.my fear is that FWMC put a priority on Japanese fans. I'm simply trying to show that this is not the case by making English unavoidable for them
>>86372619Baused schizoGOD. I can't even think of a single question, so hopefully you sent at least one that's worthwhile
I've maybe sent about five so far, two of them were maybe a little longer than I would have liked, but the other three were just short single sentences. None of mine need to be picked, I'm just hoping that ones that are picked lead to a cute story or two
>>86373581I was going to send one, but I feel like they'll just speed through it or god forbid translate it into Japanese, so I decided not to.I'll just wait for the next QnA or keep trying with FWMC Morning....
>>86373727>god forbid translate it into Japaneseare you dumb? it's a japanese stream.
>>86373727There's no harm in sending it, unless you're genuinely scared of it being translated and you aren't just shitposting
As a test, I'm going to send 2 JP questions mixed in. If they answer those two and none of my EN questions, then all of /our/ fears will be true.I'll probably post a list of every single question I asked after the stream
Wanna game next sunday?
Where is the erenschizo who said he will shit on all anti-JP comments? Please do your job.
>>86373727They never said they would translate EN questions, retard. They'll do what they did last time and answer it in the language it was asked. They just want SHORT questions so they don't have to spend a lot of time on them. Stop falling for threadreading shitposters
>>86373885I'm not shitposting, but if I ask a question I'd prefer to get an answer I can understand.
>>86373896I can also pretend questions picked were mine
>>86374092Wouldn't they reply in both eigo and JP?
>>86374103Well one will be generic enough that it might be yours and not mine. The other will be very specific. I dont really mind thi, take credit its cool.
>>86374127Yeah probably? I think they did that for their last couple QnA streams with a mix of questions. I'd rather not risk it and waste a question tho. God I wish I had money
>>86374092Pretty sure if they get an EN question they'll answer it in EN, and then may translate some things to JP. Erenschizo can feel free to grudgepost me if this isn't the case
Maros are very good for questions, it's not even the anonymous part, it's more that they get the question privately and can choose to ignore it without any kind of pressure whatsoever. helpFWMC is public and has other ruffians looking and giving likes/RTs of approval, superchats put them on the spot, maro they can think about it and wonder if they should answer or not and decide without any worry.
I kinda want a FUWAMOCO handcam cooking stream (other than the takoyaki one, since they had help and that wasn't really handcam anyways) so I can watch Fuwawa be a housewife. Even if in my heart I fully expect to be slapping my forehead and going MAMMA MIA no matter what she cooked.
Dont fucking flood them with EN questions you absolute retards. Sure they dont mind, and said eigo is finr too, but the whole point of this is to answer JP tourist questions so the brand new JP fans will get a chance to actually know them. They said eigo was fine in a stream with mostly their core base, who they always expect to engage in English, but theres a reason they only tweeted in JP and why they put the fucking frame in theor JP playlist. Just let them tey to actually KEEP these fans and potentially turn them from tourist to Ruffian. 90% of the questions will be some flavor of "TWINS?? MAJI KA???"And they answer "our" fucking questions every single day to the point you could make a spreadsheet about all the dumb little FWMC facts we know(surprised no one has done this). If you have a question SC it, submit it to FWMC Morning, or beg An*n or some other pig to throw you a bone(they will). Just let FWMC do their thing and stop being a dumb retard.
>>86375031Well said, Moco-chan.
>>86374332I mean yeah its how theyve literally always done it.If they dont want yo answer any English questions, theyll ignore them or choose any of the JP questions thay might be asking the exact same thing
I'm wondering if they'll pick my question about how they feel about their progress on being a bridge between EN and JP but I worry they might think it's a passive aggressive question. I think it would be an interesting topic to bring up for JP tourists too
>>86375031But what if I larp as a Tochigi farmer and pretend I'm Japanese to get read?(just kidding, please don't actually do this)
I was looking at GGN past videos, they did monthly marshmallow and zatsu streams.
ウォシュレットやトイレットペーパーを使用していますか?
>>86375358It's an interesting question, but I feel like its too much of a managerial question for a silly "getting to know FWMC for the first time" stream like this. This is the type of thing you'd ask in a mengen QnA or something.
>>86375031I don't think anyone's actually flooding their box with EN questions, it's mostly just another flavor of antiJP shitposting. Either way they can freely skip any EN questions they get when it's clear the point of this is to educate potential JP tourists that still think they're one person or something stupid like that. I sent in a couple EN questions since they said it was okay, but I don't really expect them to get read
How do you get your questions through mane-chan anyway?I'll never know who is their favorite Comics LO artist...
>>86375753I think the topic itself would be good for an introduction since it is a thing they want to do and it's relevant
>>86375876Need to wait for a collab maro stream on a holoJP's channel for that. If they're not the ones picking, the senpai would be curious too.
>>86375797>I don't think anyone's actually flooding their box with EN questionsJP or not, we're finally getting a marshmallow stream. So I completely expect some schizo autist to ruin it for everyone.I don't believe in happiness.
>>86376090I'd like to believe that with the potential volume of questions it'd be easy enough to filter out the autism, but I forgot how many ruffians are actually autistic so that might actually be kind of hard
>>86375876Dont ask a sexual, mean, rude, or uncomfortable question about them. Dont mention the Holostars, dont mention males, dont mention RMshit, dont vaguepost about dumb stuff, dont antipost or ask questions about topics we KNOW they dont want to talk about, dont imply shit about their personal lives, dont ask if they masturbate to porn(cause we all already know the answer), dont aks them their sexual interests, and dont traumadump.
>>86376090>we're finally getting a marshmallow streamI really dont see whats so different about this as opposed to the last bunch of twitter/mengen QnA's they did, except here they'll be answering pretty basic questions literally everyone already knows.
>>86376295Différence between this and twitter is that one is an anonymous askbox and the other is one of the worst website every created.
>>86372619Baused
>>86376090Anon, its very easy to flood them qith unique questions that look like they come from different people and wont get filtered. That isnt gonna "ruin" anything for anyone. Now, someone sending anti questions WOULD, but thats what mane-chan for. She's the bulwark against actual schizoshit
>>86376295Twitter fucking sucks and this is a site literally built to handle Q&As
Hello ruffians!Thanks to your encouragement I started with my Nihongo learning journey!Day 418: Today I've done my anki and immersion reps. No new cards for Anki, I'm just maintaining core 2.3k deck. For immersion I've watched one episode of an anime.FUWAMOCO love!BAU BAU!
>>86373046KEK
>>86376532>>86376585I still dont see the difference cause theyll still be picking and choosing questions, sonthe end result is the exact same. I feel like the mengen QnA had the most interesting questions with the most interesting answers, and I'm not really expecting that at all in a JP QnA, but I could be wrong.
>first ASMR in JP>first Maid Cafe RP stream in JP>first Maro stream in JP
>>86375797I'm not larping this is the first chance for an marshmallow in ages and they said English was OK so I've sent 27 so far. better they have more questions than not having enough
>>86376979you are tiresome.
ASMRbros, we're watching the australian sheephttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piduTBSnMAA
>>86376992Stop pretending to be me. Ive sent more than 27 already, and have stopped counting
>>86376979They'll keep having unique and fun streams in JP from now on while ENfags get uninteresting scraps like horrorslop(capped at 2 hours!).FWMC unironically aren't for (you), so accept it and move on. There are plenty of girls who do interesting content for HoloEN fans, and FWMC are simply not ever going to be that.
>>86375486>they did monthly marshmallow and zatsu streamsWhy do they say that they are bad at zatsu then?
>>86377239Cause they are in big public settings. They already proved they can easily do zatsu streams in mengen and p*treon. They simply get nervous in big public streams cause they're scared of being judged. The smaller the audience, the easier it is for them
>>86377239if they were good at doing it they wouldn't have been fired
>>86376979Get used to it, erenschizo. It's been like this ever since they moved to Japan, so not sure why you're crying now
>>86377239They arent good at zatsu, they're good at rambling and yapping about specific topics they're passionate about, but they cant just go off dome like Shiori. They actually have to prep a lot. and they do, waaaay more than most here know
>>86377217>while ENfags get uninteresting scraps like horrorslopYou are getting GTA clips watchalong and FSN this week.
>>86376979Do your reps, accept it, or leave. Its the only real choice unless you want to waste time seething over nothing.All of their most interesting content post-move has been their JP content, so if you arent watching or learning JP you're missing out on everything. Makes.sense why some of you cry abouut how "bad" their content had become, because you're literally skipping and seething over their best stuff
Fuwawa will announce Sex 2 at The Game Awards this year.
>>86377669Sex 1 SUCKED
I've never used marshmallow, how do you usually write the questions there? Do you say hi to them and write some fluff about yourself and then the question, or just the question without anything else?
>>86377724Whatever you want, but they did ask to keep it short.
>I hate anime, manga, Japan, speaking Japanese, Japanese idols and Japanese culture, I like EN slop for ironic weebs, now lets see which vtuber should be my oshi
>>86377724Just think about a question and ask it.
>>86377724I expect question volume to be high, so skip the fluff and just ask what you want. They also said themselves to keep it short, so trim anything you don't think is important
(you)
>>86377724Just ask a simple question and keep it a bit short cause they want to answer as many as possible.
you guys are marks, marshmallow streams are always just questions written by the vtuber or their manager
>>86377887Kinda baused ngl
>>86377887Baused psychopath
>>86377887Baused grudgeGOD
>>86378000check out this marolet who never got his question picked
Will they skip my questions if I ask things about their period?
>>86378421No. Ask away, bloodhound.
>>86378475I'll larp as a teenage boy curious about female anatomy
>>86378421Make up a story saying that Shiori told us about their pubic hair and ask them to clarify what did she mean by "both are fuzzy"
>>86378000Wrong, Ame answered two of my marshmallows back in 2020.
>>86378601>larp
Hey timestamps boy, don't slack off for this. I'm not waking up that early for it, so I need to be able to quickly check which questions got answered.
Rep-doers, how do I say:"I want to stalk you and brutality rape you" in japanese?
>>86378663all mine
>>86378663Dont worry, the resident timestamper is pretty autistic(good thing), so every single question will be meticulously timestamped.
Woah wtf GGN posts are allowed now!!
If I ask something "inappropriate" will marshmallow ban my IP or does it only block the question from being sent?
Bandai where is my Sparking ZERO FWMC sponsorship...
>>86379294Its filtered by an AI so your question will be banned and your IP might be shadowbanned(basically you can still send questions, but theyll be instantly jettisoned the way regular spam is, and you'll never know).If it gets passed the AI, then mane-chan will personally throw it away but I'm pretty sure users dont have the option to IP ban someone from asking them questios
>>86379294Why do you want to even send something inappropriate in the first place? They wont see it cause nuSuzu will get rid of it. Unless you're trying to make mane-chan blush, of course...
>>86379643>Why do you want to even send something inappropriate in the first place?Because it's fun
FUWAMOCO should play kakarot dbz. I think they mentioned not knowing anything about Dragon Ball?
>>86379643>Unless you're trying to make mane-chan blush, of course...How did you know...
Why would they retweet an image like this if not to make Ruffians horny?
>>86379730Why is she like this?
>>86379817This is going to be awkward if mane-chan is a guy
>>86379890Well we've heard her voice, so we know she's a lady. Plus they say "she" so I elect to trust them.
>>86379842Never mind I'm not horny anymore I just noticed Fuwawa has only one giant boob in this.
>>86379890Good thing she's a woman then
>almost 51 hours until a stream that isn't FWMC morning
>>86379979Why did you have to point this out
>>86380036I feel like this is just how its gonna be from now on, based on what they said in mengen. As long as they at least stream for a decently long time each Saturday, I'll be happy. That seems to be one of the few days they have some felixibility.
>>86380222They did say they want to stream FSN for a long time
>>86380036euro truck is less than 12 hours from now
>>86380320until we like it
>>86380811?
>>86381007Are you just trying to shitpost, or?
>>86379889She is just very fluffy
>>86381007KEK baused
>>86381329idk what to tell you it isn't there
>>86381377Why does she move like that does she know what it does to a man?
>>86381007Baused. There is no JP stream tonight.
>>86381512She knows exactly what she is doing
>>86381443Alright d*de enjoy your angle I guess
>>86381588Correct, it's tomorrow.
>>86380811That isn't a real stream since its another pandering JP tourist QnA where they'll answer the same questions they did on debut.
>>86381559How does she do it? Is she the goddess of sex?
>>86381329>photoshoping in a fake streamWhat sort of mental illness is this?
>>86381329based superchat reading skipper
>>86381703How dare they answer questions for new fans, who do they think they are? Idols? They're supposed to be streaming for me and reading my chats
>>86381699Their next stream other than FWMC Morning, is their home 3D stream tho?
>>86381670uhhh okay
>>86381729Gotta be, how else would she be so effortlessly sexy
>>86381797I'm not saying they can't do that stuff, in fact they SHOULD absolutely answer newfag questions, its just not a real stream at all.
>>86381892Eurotruck in Japan sounds like absolute kino.
holos get thousands of maros (even the EN ones). i don't know why you think them not picking one of your 20 english questions means anything.
>>86381729No, its explicitly because she ISN'T a goddess of sex. She's a clumsy fluffy dummy. That's why she's so effortlessly sexy, because she doesnt know how to be without looking like a dorkAnd dorks are sexy.
>>86381926nta, but I agree.I'm also looking forward to getting to see their inability to multitask in real time again
>>86381892I'd agree with you if there wasn't also a game being played. Mococo fumbling to drive a semi is still going to be good
>>86381926Oh yeah it definitely does sound kino, but unfortunately they're wasting a potentially kino stream where they drive around Japan giving us a silly truck tour on generic JP tourist questions they've answered one million times.It'll be about as kino as the average Rawr n Response, unfortunately
>>86381926Eh not really. Sounds like itll be a waste of a potentially good stream. I'd rather they just drove and rambled off-cuff
>>86382138I think it's funny how a few EN Ruffians asked if they would play a chat and vibe game like euro truck or power wash simulator and they immediately turned it down saying they couldn't play games and chat. But somehow they can do it now for JP tourists no problem?
>>86382078It'll be a fine stream, but as forgettable as their normal JP-solo streams. Their JP streams are better when they either play something and banter normally(only happens in collabs), or if they have a silly idea like the takoyaki stream.I can't really imagine answering the same questions they've always answered will do anything but get in the way
>>86382328The Sasuke watchalong was pretty kino.
>>86382223Well that was early on, no? They basically did this during their Minecraft streams, and they did it a bit more when grinding for lives in Donkey Kong Country 2.
>>86382409It was asked this month too
The prefecture stream was really fun to me.
>>86382406Hope they do it again this year
>>86382223>I think it's funnyIt's more sad than funny, tbhdesu.
what stream would you prefer as JP? no answer? then you're just a schizo. you aren't more important that other ruffians
>>86382406It was really fun but watchalongs are inherently different since they dont have to use a crutch. They just sit there, watch, and occasionally comment on whats going on.Plus sasuke is just awesome as fuck regardless of language
>>86382532The only good JP stream is a collab
>>86382499They already said they don't know if they'll have time, but I almost think it's better if they don't, we can schedule a VOD watchalong instead and that makes the archive much easier to watch for whoever can't catch it live. To watch the current Sasuke archive, you need to manually pause your Sasuke VOD whenever they mention a commercial starting on their end, because the commercials aren't archived.
>>86382409>Well that was early on, no?Nah, it was pretty recent, like 2 months ago.
>>86382532A horror batsu game. They play a horror game and are only allowed to speak Japanese, if either of them speak English then they both have to kiss eachother without muting the mic.
>>86381892Were people saying CCs Eurotruck Q&A wasn't a real stream or is this just a ruffian thing
>>86382479I actually forgot about it a week after it happened. Sort of like the Geoguesser collab with azki kekDoesnt really help that these JP streams are so one-off they never EVER bring them up when they're done.
>>86382674KEK#helpFWMC
>>86382532A collab with a JP holomember.
>>86382698They never brought up Frog game even once either, they don't bring up one off streams at all in general, no?
>>86382674THIS but they have to kiss in English.
Hello there Ruffians. Just dropping in for the Weekly Advent Wellness Check. I hope that even with everything thats been going on lately that everyone is doing ok both IRL and in your general. Take care Baubaus
>>86382675Don't know, cause I dont watch CC.It's a JP-solo stream, so its effectively filler content for tourists that will be forgotten in a week, so that's why they arent "real" streams." Their JP solo streams are never actually mentioned or remembered unless they're big event collabs like GTA. Seriously, the only time they're EVER mentioned is in conversations likenthis where people talk about how their JP solo streams arent interesting, which leads anons to say "well I enjoyed xxx-JP stream" without ever describing why, ad if they simply looked at their list of JP streams and simply picked one no one remembers.This is why I never understand ehy people go schizo about "missing out" when their JP-solo streams are streams that never result in memes, phrases, or any real memories they talk about or discuss
>>86382532If it is solo streams, I prefer they play games that does not have English support like suikawa lead. Because they can't play them during regular streams, and so is like a bonus.
QnA is better in Japanese than English.
ASMR endurance stream to 1 million subs! in JP
>>86382993Smug Nodoka posting was a good meme
>>86382927I appreciate the wellness checks. Thread health has been up and down, but overall I don't think things haven't been as bad this week as they have been in the past
>>86382993JP streams have their own memes. They referenced their joke from the first kanji de go this month.
>>86382532What streams would I prefer in JP? Preferably none of them, since I'll always enjoy their content more if its in English, because otherwise it effectively becomes "homework" that I have to study.I think collabs with girls who cannot speak any Eigo should be 100% in Japanese as to not break the flow. Those are more enjoyable if the girls can all enjoy themselves, otherwise I'd prefer english
>>86383018I disagree.
>>86383130>don't think haven't beenI apparently need more sleep though
>actually you don't really like japanese streams, only my opinion is real
>>86383171Baused and same.
I can understand why their manager quit. Do they know what riding the wave means? sure lets do a recap clipshow 2 weeks later. These hags have no concept of time.
>>86383405He's not saying that, he's saying that despite people liking them they never have anything special to say about them
>>86383405This unironically. I'm literally God, and you are not real, you are just a figment of my imagination.
>>86382993That's really only because most Ruffians are actually EOP, and the content of their JP solo streams is basically just "learning" streams. They're all JP learning, QnA's, or watchalongs of JP centered content. Its why the only one thats referenced or l memed about is sasuke with fundoshi and all that. Its hard to have memorable moments/memes/ or clippable moments in a silly classroom stream cause the most youll get are silly misunderstandings or misreadings.Compare this to GTA, which has memes/clips that will be spread around for years and Sasuke which was just a great watchalong in its own right, and its night and day, imo. If they did more gameplay streams in JP without using learning, collabs, or watchalongs as a "crutch" then yeah you'dsee WAAAAAAAY more and they would be discussed in these threads way more.
>>86383144Just need to look at chat whenever binoculars come up to see one being referenced by every JP viewer who was silent until then.https://youtu.be/Ugqx0D9hx7k?t=5132
>>86383355>>86383130Its ok you are doing great and so are all our girls
>>86383405Yes unironically. You can find them enjoyable, but no one unironically actually prefers them kek>i doNo. No you dont lol
>>86383546Am I supposed to talk to myself about them? Only thing people discuss about JP streams here is loops, you come to the thread and it's a dumpster fire every time. People barely discussed their singing/setlist in the latest RnR Party, from the time they brought up the japanese stream to now the only thing people have discussed was this. This thread rarely talks about streams in any depth.
>>86383489Not their fault ame is graduating...? Advent + her collabs took up 3 timeslots.
>>86383675>but no one unironically actually prefers them kekI prefer HoloGTA over ENReco.
>>86383675There's nothing to prefer, my oshi isn't a language.
>>86383144Yeah I know. Obviously they'll referenced probably the only actual meme that ever came out of their JP streams. Actually I' surprised they even rememered that. Overall theres not a single moment or silly meme that has ever spawned from their JP solo streams because they dont really do them to make memorable or interesting content imo. This QnA is just an example of that.
>>86383576I think a lot of people wouldn't like if they do normal gameplay streams in pure JP because there would be no reason to not do it in english instead with JP sprinkles
>>86383824Is there ANYONE who doesn't? I'd be genuinely shocked. I don't think even Erenschizo would say ENreco was better than HoloGTA.
>>86383824We arent talking about their collabs tho, illiterateffian. Please do keep up.>>86383829I agree.
>>86383576>If they did more gameplay streams in JP without using learning, collabs, or watchalongs as a "crutch" then yeah you'dsee WAAAAAAAY moreWell, I hope they don't. I'm okay with some occasional JP streams, but I don't like the idea of doing them more frequently. The JP streams gatekeep most of their fans, and it would be a bit shitty to do a lot of content that actively excludes their main audience.
>>86383860>ecause there would be no reason to not do it in englishThere are games that have no translation or subtitles that I really want to see them play.
>>86383675Retards on here actually trying to say ENReco was better than holoGTA
>>86383578Yeah that's my point though. They have JP jokes and memes. Thinking that their JP streams are all forgettable tourist traps just shows you didn't watch them or you're biased against them.The only reason they're rare is because they almost never stream in Japanese, despite what this thread would want you to think.
>>86383977and I think a lot of people would not like that
Thank god myth is keeping the tradition going and even making the final collab late.
>>86383979nta but it was better
>>86383860>>86383941Well I'm not saying they should imo. I definitely wouldnt like it at all, I'm simply saying there would be more discussion/memes coming from the JP side of the community if thry did more gameplay/zatsu streams in JP. If all their solo content are just various learning streams, then it makes sense they'd end up being a bit forgettable compared to something like GTA.
>>86383979I never said that, but its okay to purposfully misread my post if it makes you deel better.
>>86383941VNs and retro games gatekeep more ruffians than JP streams but I bet you want them to do those. Stop pretending like you care about "fans" when it's clearly just selfishness.
>>86384329Yeah, you're right. I just want more streams that I like and it makes me happy. Fuck off.
>>86384329Honestly, couldn't there be a balance? 1 VN stream, 1 retrogame stream, 1 JP game stream, 1 horror kusoge stream a week sounds fun.
>>86383977They were about to not play a game the other day specifically cause they didnt see any subtitles at first.They'll never do it. At most they'll play one-off games like chillaslop, but even then I highly doubt it. They seem to want 99% of their solo streams to be JP, and 99% of their collabs/event streams to be IN JP. So far, all of their actions scream that this is how they want their content to be
>>86384489this is unironically every complainfag on this thread, and why none of them deserve any of FWMC's attention
>>86383979>intentionally misrepresenting a point to try and make the argument nullLiterally no one said that
>>86384546They way YouTube works, if you have a video that does worse than usual it hurts in you in the algorithm. That's why big YouTubers start second channels when they want to try branching out
>>86384575>They seem to want 99% of their solo streams to be JP?
>>86384329They don't gatekeep anyone, if you are a EN ruffian and you want to watch a VN streams you can do it easily, hell, they even make recaps to make the stream easier to understand to newcomers. But JP streams are not like that, if you don't know japanese (and most Ruffians don't) you won't be able to enjoy the stream, it's that simple.
>another non-English tweetwtf
>>86384607I'm not gonna die if they don't play games I want to watch, I just won't watch lol
>>86384683Yeah but they have been playing retro games and VNs since debut.
>>86384075Yes, I was agreeing. The JP prefecture has a few good moments too. Especially if you enjoy seeing them interact with people who are general hololive fans and find out fun trivia about talents, but there are also some funny moments in its own right due to them turning their failure into content.The very first JP Q&A still has good information and cute banter that is fun to this day, like this moment here:https://youtu.be/sFtVsNvqFLQ?t=7979
>>86384546There could be balance like that, but they unironically dont want to do that. They prefer to do solo streams in eigo, and they're already starting to stream a bit less now. If anything, I expect their to be another massive JP-drought outside of collabs cause despite all the shitposting, they just arent that interested in doing consistent JP solo content. They use JP solo content as a way of "catching up" all the JP fans and they always have. When they refer to doing more JP streams, that always meant collabs, events, guest appearances, etc
>>863845461 JP stream per week is way too much. If they start doing that then we could start talking about the "slippery slope" argument again.
>>86384839yeah and they probably took a big hit every time they did a VN
>>86384829im not talking about people like you, im talking about the people who are on this board 24/7 complaining that they aren't playing the games they want and how it will hurt their channel if they don't follow what the fag wants them to do to a tee.
>>86384575They said they considered playing Kanon over watching it even before it was localized. I do agree they don't want their gaming series to not be in english, but I don't think they're 100% against the idea of playing a game that is JP only with their EN audience if there's no other way. Just need to look at Touhou. Imagine if they skipped streaming Touhou just because it doesn't have english text for the story they're skipping anyway. It's not such a hard rule.
>>86384489>Me me me me meHave you considered becoming a KFP instead
>they plugged merch in the middle of a rock n' rawramazing
The fact that they don't even average 2 JP solos a month is a huge waste of their skills. Even Mori does that with her N3 Japanese.
>>86385185The way they plugged it was funny though.
>>86385177>Shitposter brings up a random holo not even being talked aboutHaha you're a faggot.
>>86385185I don't know why I get such a kick out of holos shilling their merch or themselves. Suisei is great at it and I love it.
>>86384075I never said they DON'T have memes, just that those memes are never referenced anywhere else and basically exist in a vacuum. Rheir JP solo content has so little bearing on their community, the memes that follow them, or any tfo their actual memories, that they may as well not even stream in JP in the first place.Hell, its like I said: "memorable moments" from their JP streams ARE NEVER EVER mentioned unless you explicitly say as much, then you end up with people desperately trying to construct some because there really arent any outside of collabs.
>>86384329Most ruffians like VN or retro game streams, and most ruffians don't understand JPHow does old games gatekeep more entire language switch? It's not even comparable
>>86384975the slippery slope thing is only ever brought up by shitposters or outright antisno holo is going to change branch
>>86385146Yes they also said they were literally going to live translate it too, which would have been brutal
>>86385483>Most ruffians like VN or retro game streamsthis is probably false
>>86384546That does sound pretty good to me. Don't even need one day for VN and one for retro, just a single "backlog day" a week where they will play one game they already started until completion and then move on to the next. A single day, a single two hours stream. This would be fantastic and would do so much good to their ongoing series. 2 hours a week is not THAT bad to finish games if you actually commit to it. I actually enjoy kusoge and FOTM stuff too, though, so it's not like I'm sacrificing the whole week for that one stream, so there's that.
>>86385492No sane person thinks they would change branches, but getting more and more JP streams is a possibility
>>86385483I love retro gamesI hate VNsI speak japanese
>>86385483>Most ruffians like VNNo? Outside of SC readings, VN streams are their weakest.
>>86385682>most people didn't like DKC or WAThat's bullshit
>>86385791Yeah, most casual fans who'll show up for meme game or fotm probably hate them.
>DKCYes, kino>VNsMostly snooze, sometimes OK
>>86385925most ruffians like their DKC streams, probably not the VN's though
>>86386107SWV is fun. Planeterium and aquarium was good cause they completed it in one seating and there were moments. White Album is too draggy.
>>86386236>DKC streamsEven that's debatable at this point with how those have been doing too. I think if they completed them more quickly and were working their way through games getting new ones every month or two, there would be more 'first/second stream' buff.
>>86385789>I speak japaneseThen you aren't a part of "most ruffians">>86385791>VN streams are their weakest>zoomers tourists didn't inflate CCV because they're allergic to readingYeah? Obviously. That doesn't mean that the ruffians didn't like it
>>86385448Again, am I supposed to talk to myself? Most of the thread is EOP and half of them throw a fit whenever the subject of japanese stream comes up, as you can see by this thread being about nothing else since the RnR Party. People straight up write fanfiction about what they say in japanese to start shit up, as you could see in the final GTA day supa reading. There's no environment to actually discuss japanese streams here. The four times I got to watch GTA live I skipped on the threads because it was just some schizo spamming about the percentage of english they were speaking. This isn't a place to discuss japanese streams.
I wish I could watch them play a tactics game, just one good one.
>>86386453But you already got SWV!
>>86385492I'm not saying that they'll change branches, but they said multiple times that they are going to start streaming less, and if they start doing weekly JP streams we'll end up with 25% of their content in JP. And once they start doing 1 weekly JP stream they'll get more JP fans and they'll feel bad for them, so the weekly stream will become 2 JP streams per week and then the JPs will ask for more and then(...)They wouldn't do it out of malice, but it would hurt the same.
>>86386453they are too stupid for that
>>86385492The branch switch thing has always been retarded, and the "one JP SOLO stream a week" thing is equally retarded.If they wanted to do weekly solo streams, theyd have started up a long time ago. Its clear that they've doubled their JP output, but that's basically all collabs which is expected.
>>86386420You can try talking about it regardless and plus he's not saying just on 4chan but in general.
>>86386420>The four times I got to watch GTA live I skipped on the threads because it was just some schizo spamming about the percentage of english they were speakingYou're bullshitting because this only happened during the first and last stream
Why aren't Advent collaborations scuffed?
>>86386832You saying that after they delayed the collab by 10 minutes last time
>>86386420>Again, am I supposed to talk to myselfNo. Go on twitter or bite the bullet and use the dicksword. You'll get the same response there cause no one reaally mbemebe's any of them cause they're ultimately forgettable.Also, actually never mind, you ARE supposed to talk to yourself. I've done it and basically forced this thread to talk about stuff before. Its actually what I'm doing now tbdesu
>>86386832They probably spend more time on prep
>>86386381Those "zoomer tourists" are just as much ruffians as you. Stop thinking you're superior
>>86386654bro, erenschizo was here complaining every fucking day. nigger better keep his word and shit on anti JP posts for the whole of October.
>>86386957>erenschizo was here complaining every fucking dayThen you're clearly bullshitting because he actually praised them on a couple days, most notably day 2 because they actually talk in English
>>86386832They are a little bit sometimes, but most of it is eliminated because of all the prepwork thats involved.Most of these women know they're tech illiterate, but FWMC actually try to mitigate this by putting in a shitload of prep to attempt to counteract this.
>>86386381It absolutely does in the way they define ruffians and always have. A higher percentage of their subscribers watching = more ruffians enjoying it. I'm not saying I personally don't prefer VN streams or want more of them, but don't try to fool yourself, you're asking for preferential treatment for a minority group of hyperengaged ruffians when you ask them to focus on it, no matter how nicely you word it.
>>86386957You saw a few posts and ignored everything else? lol
>>86387155>you're asking for preferential treatment for a minority group of hyperengaged ruffians when you ask them to focus on itJust like them focusing on JP stream!
>>86387125>some schizo spamming about the percentage of english they were speakingThis is just as retarded on the days he praised them.
>>86387125>he actually praised them on a couple daysHe didn't. He complained the ratio should be better than the initial 90-10 he wanted and came up with some retarded excuse of there being more EN chat users. He can do one and kill himself.
>>86387365That's day 4
>>86387266There are way more JOP ruffians than those willing to sit through a VN stream
>>86386957I'm one of the schizos and I skipped the streams. I only samefagged after they were finished cause I dont appreciate how they're willing to easily stream 7+ hours in JP while only able to do maybe 2 max in EN.
>>86387266That's more for tourist retention and sub padding from JP's.
>>86387266Yes, except that nobody asks for them to focus on JP streams while saying "this is just staying true to your real fans!"It would be the same if the argument was made, though, correct.
>>86387454>while only able to do maybe 2 max in EN.Bathhouse was 6 hours, retard.
>>86386945When we say "Ruffians" we are referring to their core fanbase, the 4000-3000 people that try to watch every stream live, comment, reply to Twitter... Every fan that doesn't do any of that is just a casual fan. Nothing bad about being a casual, but FWMC don't think about you when they mention "the Ruffians". Their mental image of the Ruffians is formed by the interactions they have with the regulars.
I just hope EN5 has a serious GFE member so all the attention whores who don't actually care about FWMC can flock to her instead
>>86387592>but FWMC don't think about you when they mention "the Ruffians"This is the biggest cope I ever seen.
>>86387454>I dont appreciate how they're willing to easily stream 7+ hours in JP while only able to do maybe 2 max in EN.Same, and I'm still salty about that.
>>86386537
>>86387426Thats true, but a big thing FWMC have always loved to do is spread the things they love to people who have never experienced them.Why play a VN thats already popular in Japan, when you can play it with an audience who's discovering it for the first time? This is why something like Kanon was so great, cause they treated it like they were showing their boyfriend(me) their favorite anime for the first time.
>>86387592FWMC would rather have a million casuals than a couple thousand die hards, rightfully so
>>86387745>hey were showing their boyfriend(me)People like you are cancer.
>>86387592That's not what a Ruffian is. They explained it very clearly.
>>86387594Well you won't get that because the ones whonare here are here forever. If you dont like "gfe" or "attention whores" then you shouldn't have started watching two affectionate girls who love affection and love giving attention.I'll say the same thing to JP schizos who complain about JP shit, too btw. You shouldnt have chosen to watch girls who can actually speak JP
>>86387426There are way more EOP ruffians though
>>86387880You don't belong here
>>86387592You are deluded if you think they think that way. Why do you think they are so welcoming to grays when they play FOTMs?
>>86387880Nah, that would be ironic weebs who hate FWMC like you.
this myth anniv is boring as fuck because i can relate to exactly zero moment
>>86387592>but FWMC don't think about you when they mention "the Ruffians".This is a stupid thing to say>Their mental image of the Ruffians is formed by the interactions they have with the regularsThis is probably true but not as much as you think
>>86387880Well they called me "their first boyfriend." I was willing to accept that as silly larp or a dream until they explicitly said that was their "actual feelings"
>>86388107they just don't really have any chemistry together. actually, gen chemistry has improved in HoloEN with every subsequent gen I think
>>86388107Why are you watching if you don't care about Myth? So you can complain about it here?
>>86386957>better keep his word and shit on anti JP posts for the whole of OctoberI will, but you are getting ahead of yourself. I still need to see how they handle it, for all we know they could suddenly decide to do it in JP.Also, I didn't say that I would "shit" on the JP schizos, I'm pretty sure I said that I would "defend FWMC against the JP schizos", you can check the archive if you want. I WILL shit on the obvious shitposting sisters, but don't expect me to go full aggro on a reasonable antiJP post.
>>86388379because fomo
>>86388377>with every subsequent gen I thinkYou really think Justice is better than Advent?
>>86388434fomo of what?????
>>86388377I'm not sure if advent has the "best" chemistry, but they easily have my favorite chemistry of any gen imo
>>86388512of what everyone watching d'oh
>>86388453yes
>>86387745>they treated it like they were showing their boyfriend(me) their favorite anime for the first time.Baused, I wrote this.
>>86388004I thought I was literally the single regular poster who isn't either a gachikoischizo or a JPschizo...Completely agree. Too many ruffians hate what FWMC love, and hate the fact that they're engaging with what they love. Just pick someone better.>my oshi chose me!They made a shit choice, then, free them of this terrible burden, be the better man.
why the fuck did they teach me about fucking politics before direction in japanese
>>86387570>it was 6 hours No it wasnt you lying cretin. God I hate you people so much. It was LITERALLY 5 hours and 55 minutes, you lying schizophrenic faggot.
>>86387880Go back, tranny.
>>86388821to make sure you know to vote LDP if you ever move to Japan
>>86388650ERB is an outlier for them, the other three do well together even if Raora's heavy, heavy esl can make it a little tough for her sometimes.
>>86388631did you get fomo from literally everything
>>86386945>>86387155>just as much ruffians as you>the way they define ruffiansyeah, the "if you've ever so much as heard about FWMC through any source ever, you are a ruffian". That is both stupid and nonsense. By those terms the sister who was spamming that "pero" image for 2 hours or the guy ban evading are both ruffians, and they very much aren't. In those terms the homofags under the the official channel live stream seething about how they went quiet are just as ruffians as someone who enjoys most of what they do, and that just isn't true at all>A higher percentage of their subscribers watching = more ruffians enjoying itAgain with the CCV = better, just because it has more tourists watching it doesn't make it better. Why do you think they constantly shill themselves in those streams? They KNOW more then just ruffians are watching and it's to boost their subsWhat they WANT to do is relax with VNs and retro games, like they keep bringing up unprompted. It's not me "asking for preferential treatment" it's me wanting them to stream what they actually like and be able to properly unwind after doing non-stop homework day in and day out
>>86389062eh ERB is just the Shiori of the group. She is too autistic to integrate naturally but she means well and the rest of the girls make an effort to include her
>>86389064why do you think i follow all fwmc stream even the jp onejoking aside, but this is literally THE event right now
Advent is the best thing that ever happened to vtubing and the Catholic Church.
>>86389183i'm just catching up to the rock n' rawr vod instead
>>86388426>for all we know they could suddenly decide to do it in JP.Lol sure.
>>86389258how do you live with the fact that you missed the rnr live
>>86387745>This is why something like Kanon was so great, cause they treated it like they were showing their boyfriend(me) their favorite anime for the first time.Baused and correct. Also, I inscribed these runes
>>86386592That's why it'd be fun
>>86389170Shiori is better at engaging with the rest of Advent. Justice is WAY better about doing one-on-ones though. FWMC and Shiori being the way they are makes it tough, and Biboo and Nerissa just went outward to find consistent collab partners.
>>86389329i slept pretty good
>>86388818>I thought I was literally the single regular poster who isn't either a gachikoischizo or a JPschizo...I would say most are like this, so don't take anonymous shitposting as reality. The biggest complaint people have with moat Ruffians is that theyre "yesmen" and gachikoi are regularly called yesmen. >theyre all hiding their feelings!!this is what they always fall back to because antis are not just retarded, theyre also autistic. And autists are incapable of understanding a worldview that isnt their own.If you dont like sweet, hardworking, hyper-affectionate giga-weebs who adore their Ruffians, want to be idols, want to make music, and SOMETIMES speak in nihongo occasionally, then maybe just maybe FWMC ain't for (you). And that's okay, Hololive has a ton of girls you could try out.
>>86388011Is Fuwawa... you know...?
>>86389132>What they WANT to do is relax with VNs and retro gamesWhat they want is a sololive. Why do you think they work hard trying to get tourists to watch them or hit 1M subs or try to get BAUDOL to hit 1M views?
>>86389132Anon coasting and playing VNs to 2000 viewers day after day is the exact opposite of what they want to do. They're hungry dogs they want to be ENs Marine
>>86389190>Catholic ChurchHow
>>86389521They want it all, they're hungry puppies.
>>86389400We'll get our Shiori collab this year. Habeeb it.
>>86389615Too bad it's extremely retarded to want it all when one of the things they want inherently is on the complete opposite end of something else they REALLY want. That's why VN streams are so far and few between.
>>86389400>Shiori is better at engaging with the rest of Advent. I dunno about that. They are both bad at it but Shiori is like, reluctant bad and ERB is over-eager bad>Justice is WAY better about doing one-on-ones thoughwe still haven't even gotten one on one pairings out of everyone in Advent yet and it's been over a year...
>>86389590They have said multiple times recently that they want to do VN streams and each time Fuwawa is VERY excited about it
Will they ever be satiated? Will their ambitions ever stop? If they get a sololive. What comes next?
>>86389590EN's Marine in what ways? Making music, yes, but I feel like Marine does more "numbers for numbers' sake" while FWMC feels more like using numbers as a means to an end
>>86389825Official World tour?
>>86389615>they are hungry puppiesYeah, for my microscopic antediluvian penis which hasn't ever been seen by another human being
ame literally handpicked all those 3d modeler huh
>>86389825Pero sololive
>>86389521>What they want is a sololiveAnd? Do you have anything that actually goes against my opinion?Them wanting a sololive doesn't take away from the fact that they also want to relax with the ruffians
>>86389825Official VN like Aqua, multiple EPs and albums, concert tour.
>>86389785CC/GG is fucking unreal how much fun they are together. I watched their collab with Kaela today from Kaela's PoV. I was dying laughing watching Kaela look back and forth as the two of them bickered for fun with each other, sometimes pushing Kaela to join in (which she did in her very Kaela style).
>>86389825They'll have bouts of satiation which will be immediately followed by excitement for what's to come.
>>86389825Why would they only want one live? Second album, new and bigger live to perform it, the VN...This is pretty normal, no? You don't even need to be particularly ambitious, anyone who performs on stage would want to perform again after they perform the first time.
>>86389825Debut at Wrestlemania 41
>>86390012It's funny having watch Kiara for so long, the post-big event lows when you realize just how much more you'll need to get to the next goal is staggering. They'll never show or talk about it, but I'm sure it hits.
>>86389987if they do a narrative karaoke together it will be the greatest Hololive stream of all time
>>86389841I don't think is just about making music. Marine has actual impact on Japanese media. She was the first vtuber to be invited to FNS. Those are the kind of stuff they dream of.
>>86389590Marine is a very "right place, right time" kinda thing. Getting there on merit alone isn't something I think even Marine can do, even with the knowledge of how she got there in the first place
>>863898252nd sololive @ Budokan
>>86389597FUWAMOCO are Virgin Maries and Biboo is Jesus.
>>86390172>the post-big event lowsBD already hit them hard.
>>86390227I mean they directly referenced that and the Dodgers collab as things they really, really want to do, because they know if they're getting opportunities like that, the sololive isn't far behind.
>>86390299My cunny in Christ...
>>86390353Doesn't help that they ALSO released their first orisong right around that time too. We're in the grind-phase right now where there will be very little 'to show' for everything they're working on, at least in ways they really want.
>>86390238Marine is also very savvy. She was one of the first vtuber to exploit the tiktok meta for music. And she doesn't mind branching out to make more "popular" hits.
>>86390411>>86390227I don't get why if they're so into idols and solo lives as a goal they do barely any music stuff
>>86389727That should tell you their priorities. Yes they want comfy VN streams with the Ruffians but they want that sololive and more live performances in front of a crowd much, much more. That is what causes so much angst here
>>86390642What do you think they're always doing vocal and dance lessons for?
>>86390642It takes a long while to get things done. Mori I'm sure has a lot on stream talking about the process, same with Bae. But I know from watching Kiara that it took like 9-12 months for the full production of her album, and she only really started teasing it 2 months out.
>>86389825I cant see them ever being truly satisfied until ALL of their tangible goals on that list are completed. Even then, theyll just end up adding more goals/dreams. I'm not as much of a doomsayer as everyone else, so I know theyll have times where they're so busy they can barely stream and I also know they'll have times where they CAN stream a decent amount. We'll have barren times followed by an extreme amount of content which will all be the result of their nonstop hard work and autistic dedication. Cause yes, they work so hard because of the Ruffians and those who came before. They arent just working hard for the sake of it, they're doijg it for those cheers, those calls at BD, the praise and dedication they see in the comments, etc, etc. They do it all to make the dumbfucks who adore sitting there and watching them play super mario world for 12 hours proud, happy, inspired, emotional, and so much more.tldr, they do it cause theyre IDOLs in the truest sense.
We aren't stopping until the Dome sololive
>>86390714It was ripping me apart for a little while, honestly. I think a switch just flipped in the last week or two and now I'll just consume their content much more casually. It's not that I don't want them to do well or anything, it's just less for me than something like 70% streamer 30% idol. They feel more like a 70% idol 30% streamer.
>>86390642>they do barely any music stuffThese things take time. They are actually on a good track. Bae's output only increased in her second year. And Marine didn't put out much until her 3rd year.
>>86390642They do quite a bit of music stuff.https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLf4O_VcbYo24EjtizbTZt_tTgwXaaK8N-Everything here took meetings, practice, recordings... even if it's not all solo original songs that will go into an album. But that's just how it goes, check Marine's trajectoy, since the thread is talking about her:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKo9UD3uKyyFUSwUDM5hCTB4fEvZqYs0P
>>86390816I like this guy! Keep on shining, you awesome ruffian!
>>86390535I am wondering what is the thing they are teasing about during member streams. They said they expected it to fail. I wonder is it a new orisong?
>>86390940Well if it makes you feel any better, they do find the time they spend with us special. They literally cried numerous times about it in a very genuine way, especially the times they were forced to cut it short.Sure they could just... not be ambitious... in fact they even mentioned that they sometimes WISH they weren't like this so they could just be cozy and autistic with their equally autistic fanbase, but dreams and aspirations are NOTHING if you dont actively work towards them.For me, I'll be here for the big moments and I'll treasure every cozy stream.
>>86390849Dimmsdale Dimmadome?
>>86391177Not only time, but also MONEY. They literallt also mentioned having to even spend money on all those intrumentals for their RnR parties, cause Cover is autistic about perms so you HAVE to use shitty comissioned backing tracks, and a ton of the songs they've sung havent been sung before
>>86389897>microscopic antediluvian penisKEK
>>86390816One thing I like is them being honest about it with us? Like they are pretty open about wanting to go viral, or telling ruffians that numberfagging is important and matters.
>>86390642They (used to) do biweekly karaoke
>>86390940>They feel more like a 70% idol 30% streamer.Isn't this unfair when they streamed more compared to half of their branch?
>>86391660Recency bias
I'm crying
>>86390562No she's not. She generally has no idea what she's doing and just got lucky a few times because she also has several songs with tiktok dances that no one cares about.
>>86391292I hope it's a hardcore metal orisong>>86391551When they talked about the shilling in holoGTA maybe being a bit embarrassing, they were talking to Ruffians like me. Turns out shilling works (especially if it's funny like the wedding VP)
>>86390940>They feel more like a 70% idol 30% streamer.Hololive girls are not "streamers" they are idols who stream. Yes even the girls who arent very "idol-like" are still a part of a literal idol organization with a lot of idol requirements.Streaming IS important to modern idols because its a great way of engaging with the community and winding down, but it is not the primary thing. You shouldn't watch a hololive girl if you arent also at least partially into seeing your girl on stage
>>86391312There's no doubt that they do genuinely enjoy streaming for us, I won't ever content that. I just know what I like and want from them, and I'll be there for it.>>86391660It comes down to content. There might be some fun moments in those trash JP games, but a majority of them just aren't fun to me. It's kinda the same way I feel about someone like Kiara, She's got some cool streams, and I really like her, but there's just no way in hell I'm watching 60 hours of Fire Emblem, even if there's cute stories I want to hear buried in there.
>>86391177>19 vs 50You know, considering this is their first year compared to Marine's 5 years, that's actually really amazing
>>86391510Yep, a lot goes into it. They're grinding like HECK. And I'm here for it, I'm having a great time following their journey. The one type of schizo I don't think I can help being is a concernfag, I just want them to sleep at least 5 to 6 hours a day. But I learned to shut the fuck up about it at least, I keep it to myself.Just because time with the ruffians is their time to relax and have fun between all of the grind, last thing they need is someone else saying what manechan and mama puppy have been saying already. I'll just be there to listen to them complain about how rough it's been while we have fun with something silly.Just like I tune in to their stream and tune out all of the bullshit in my life, and they welcome me home to a good place, I want to do the same.
>>86391855Honestly the graffiti spam was useless and all the shilling that actually worked was from their interactions with other members (FBK stuff, dangerous driving, etc...) and the BAUDOL siren. Medic was a great job for them to grow because they were forced to talk with just about everyone
>>86388650No fucking away
>>86391912>Don't watch Hololive if you don't like stage performanceWhy does everyone twist liking streams into hating the idol side? I don't hate the idol side, it's just less important to me personally. Doesn't stop me from trying to make it out to US based cons that will have the World Tour stuff going on or trying to score a ticket to BD.
>>86391961>It comes down to content.What do you want?
why is myth more awkward than advent when they have been together for way longer
>>86392404It's a bittersweet collab
>>86392284>Why does everyone twist liking streams into hating the idol side?I didnt mean to imply this gomen. I meant to just say that Hololive girls are idols who stream, not Streamers with a capital "s"You cant have expectations that all these girls will go about the majority of their content as Streamers, because streaming is simply a part of what they do. An important part, sure, but not the only thing they do.I want them to stream to and I love watching their VN streams.
>>86392390The stuff that beats the piss out of their CCV, because I like it. So I've finally come to temper my expectations because I know they have to constantly battle between pumping their numbers for their personal goals, and playing games I (and they) really like.
>>86392284I don't think it's about hating, and there wouldn't be a problem if you hated it either, as long as you understood it's the main part and were satisfied with the streams you did get. You don't have to care, just understand. It's when people complain about the work that goes into the main part that it shows that maybe they shouldn't be so invested in Hololive.If you're content with what you get, then there's zero issues. Or if you're not content, but you only argue within the confines of streams, so for example, you want more X type of stream in exchange for Y type of stream, that's perfectly reasonable. Just wanting more streams in exchange for homework? That starts going into "wrong company" territory.
>>86392404They're autistic in far more divegent ways than Advent, and they didn't have an idol-bootcamp to make sure their autism gelled together like Advent's does
>>86392611You are getting your long FSN stream this weekend.
>>86391961>There's no doubt that they do genuinely enjoy streaming for us, I won't ever content that. I just know what I like and want from them, and I'll be there for it.Amd I like what I like, which is Donkey Kong and Zelda. Ultimately understanding them and understanding what their career is, is an extremely important thing to do as an idol fan so you can reasonably set expectations.
>>86392606Some are more willing to care less about goals that FWMC have, and therefore are willing to do shit like play games they like to tank their numbers. There's always going to be the month-long breaks for JP travel, and some girls make streams work in-between anyways. I know, have expected it, and have experienced it plenty.>>86392703You're right, and I'll be there live for it as long as I don't end up having any plans, or I'll watch the VoD and be happy with the stream.
How would FWMC react to the One Winged Angel leitmotif during FFVII Remake?
>>86392834But that's kinda what I meant by the 'switch flipped' thing. I've just started to view my consumption of Holo's a bit differently, and they were one of two who I consumed most of their content. I'm just chilling out with it a bit and expanding out. It's not like I'm anti-ing them or never watching again, I'll just show up for what I like.
>>86393203Fair enough yeah. I get it cause I've had to go through the exact same thing with them, and slowly realize what it actually means being an Idol. They arent my first vtubers, but they are my first Holos and absolutely my first real experience with Idol vtubers
EDF bros you here?
>>86391978Baused!I still mention concernfaggy things to them, but I try to keep it light. Maybe I should hold off on even that?
>>86390299Fuwawa, Mococo, and FUWAMOCO are the Holy Trinity
>>86394417What about Pero?
>>86394485Lucifer
gross there's cum everywhere now
>>86394092I'm here, just finished with some stuff so now it's just killing time until the hour
>>86391978Yeah I can't help concernfagging, but I understand their thought process and choose to trust them rather than let myself fall victim to nonstop worry.I'll be supportive of their journey because the fruits of their hard-ass labour have always been incredible. They've proved themselves tike and time again
>>86394363There's nothing wrong with doing that, I think, just knowing when to do it is key. We don't need another homework loop on stream every time they mention in passing that they're tired.More yoshi yoshi, less I told you.
>>86392632The bootcamp is there to speed up the process that should've happened in the years Myth has been together
>>86394363They're women at the end of the day, they just want to vent sometimes and not be told solutions. Keeping it light and letting them know you care is fine IMO
>>86394674I gave up worrying because it's a lot of energy spent on something that no one can ever change. I'd rather just use it to do art and post support for them. They probably are writing a check they can't pay when it comes due but for now they're managing so no point worrying
looking at my notifications. did they even sleep? are they sleeping now?
>>86395007>are they sleeping now?And not watch Myth's collab?
>>86394883Exactly, best we can do is provide them with a place for soothing, that they'll leave at the end of the stream before the next grinding session thinking "I'm glad we streamed today. I needed this."They shouldn't leave a stream more stressed than they were before.
>>86395007I say they got around 4 hours of sleep (just like me)
>>86395007Why would you post a blank gif?
>>86394363I think theres a difference between being supportive and being a concernfag.Like if the complain about never sleeping, and you say " FWMC its okay to sleep, please get some rest" that isnt concernfagging, thats simply being supportive. Concernfagging is basically trying to guilt them into taking time off for whatever reason.I feel like just telling them that its okay to rest and that we all approve of them "treating themselves" is enough. Be supportive and let them make their own choices. Half the time they mention not sleeping, it feels more like they're simply asking us for approval to take it easy sometimes. They're emotional girls who need a supportive bedrock, so treat them thst way. They're actual princesses, dont forget.
>>86394931>F: B-BURNOUT!>M: It's not burnout! >F: We see a lot of Ruffians worried about that thing!>M: But really...>M: We can't continue it...>F: Yeah, we're not burnt out>F: FWMC, we've had times like that before>M: Uhn>F: So we know when we're feeling like that, it's not that it's burning up ehehehe>M: We can't, we can't, we can't continue forever>F: Yeah pushing ourselves, pushing ourselves you know?>M: We've pushed ourselves so hard so hard>F: Yeah you're just gonna injur yourself you know?>F: So, I think we can tell the signs when things aren't great.>F: So, you know sometimes you know, maybe Ruffians if we're 'ohhhh'>F: If there's little few streams than usual, or maybe suddenly there's little changes>M: Yeah we have to change it because, right now, what we have to do is rather than not have a stream, we just want to spend time!>F: We just want to spend time with you, we wanna see you even if it's less...>M: We're trying to push wherever we can in even if it's just a couple hours>F: Yeah>M: So rather than be like "ahh it was too short" we'd rather you just be happy that it happened. Ok?>F: And please understand if there's ever any sudden changes>M: We don't want to do it>F: WE DID NOT WANT THAT we are very ver- more way upset>F: If we go and continue it, it might be harder in the future>M: Ok?>F: Yeah, but there's lots of exciting things, you're just gonna have to wait.They basically said that they're really getting to the point where they'll get hit back finally for doing all the shit they're doing.
>>86395164open it
>>86394769It's smarter to have one than just hope things happen naturally, that way you establish a strong foundation and things only get better over time. Myth are a really disparate bunh of girls on top of that.
>>86394883I dont think thats entirely the case, I think its because they simply want positive reassurance/support which includes the fans they do this for tellijg them that yeah its okay to take it easy. Will they take it easy? Not entirely, but theyve been thinking about it more and more and they know they have our approval and support.
Showering my princesses in genuine praise and support, telling them they're doing amazing and wishing them good luck with the rest of their day with homework after having fun for a couple of hours never gets old. Honestly living the dream.
>>86393203The key to being a mentally well vtuber enjoyer is to watch a lot of them so you don't have a single point of emotional failure. If I don't like FWMC's schedule for a week I can just watch someone else instead of raging about it here for hours.
>>86394883Also, get the FUCK off my stove Fuwawa
>>86395633imagine if all of them graduate in quick succession thothat would be funny rightnever happened to menope
You should screencap your EDF session and post on twitter, show them you're having fun with ruffians every homework day and they'll feel better about taking those.
>>86395886is it even a homework "day"
>>86395813Pomudachibro...
>>86395813my condolences
>>86395971If there's at least 24 hours between streams then yeah
>>86395886I might be too shy for that
>>86395813who?
>>86395886I would feel weird doing that desu
>>86395886I'll post our jong sessions instead
jong is shit
>>86394092I'll be up for it in a bit
>>86394883Yeah, I only say stuff like "taking care of yourselves comes first" and "I hope you get some good rest".
>>86395458Right, I'm just saying that it's less "to make sure" like you said (which sounds to me like they won't hire whoever doesn't mesh) and more accelerating the meshing process
What do I need to do to make this real next unarchived RnR Party?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVTXPUF4Oz4
>>86397063>What do I need to do to make this real next unarchived RnR Party?You'd have to make it an off-collab with sioli
>>86395638Why do you have a keyboard, monitor, and mouse on your stove?
>>86397161Full Advent I Want It That Way...
56709 when
ok the main issues I see timelooped>homework vs stream vs health balance>EN JP balancesthe favoritism loop seems addressed already by FWMCAre there other chuubas that have gone through this and came out of it all the better? what did they do?are there are any teachings from the chuuba archives for things NOT to do whether fan or chuuba?surely history is repeating somewhere
Thank you again for the best summer of my life, #FUWAMOCO Like all seasons it had its brilliant and cloudy times, but that path we walked together made beautiful, once-in-a-lifetime memories that I'll keep close in my heart beside you I love you Sweet dreamsbau bauGood morning #FUWAMOCO It's the first offici𝘢l day of autumn, and with a fresh cup of coffee in hand, I'm ready to get a lot of things done. Good luck on homework today! I'll be holding your paws close through this season too Don't work too hard, okay?
>>86395813production kawaii...
>>86396743it does, but sometimes it's also sex
>>86397161I want them to sing Faint together...Shiori would love that (if I remember her favorite LP songs correctly)
>>86397348I feel quite a few have, and still are to this day. Time/experience is the great healer
>>86395231I like transcripts like this that capture the cadence of how they talk. Just makes me smile a little more since it's almost like hearing them speak
>>86397355I thought the point of AI was that it learned and improved over time. This thing just seems to get more and more schizo and unintelligible
>>86397606I miss that one greentextschizo
>>86397045I wonder if Hololives hiring process is actually legal. "Vibes based" hiring usually runs afoul of discrimination laws
>>86397731I don't see how it'd be illegal. Vibes based is fine as long as it's not window dressing on discriminating against a protected class
休憩タイムだ!I got a break today! wHope your day has started off well FUWAMOCO! Hmm.. you know speaking of waiting for you two at the next concert.. I wonder where your next one will be? The easiest guess would be FES, and I’ve already started saving for it but aside from that for now I can’t see where the next venue could be. Oh well, let’s just take it one day at a time! I have a habit of overthinking/over predicting the future, and it usually doesn’t go as expected like 70% of the time (I mean relative foresight is great for investing but not really for anything else haha)Alright then, hope you two get to learn lots more today and get plenty of cool things done!And by all means I hope you can get some rest whenever you can too!You’ve got this today FUWAMOCO! You can do it!! フワモコちゃんの頑張ってる姿が大好き!頑張ってね!ﾊﾞｳﾊﾞｳ〜
>>86397650AI deterioting over time due to learning from either bad source or incestual AI-generated source is a real problem in real life actually
Ok im ready to play whenever
>>86397469Why did God make me so weak to breasts
>>86395231>F: B-BURNOUT!>M: It's not burnout!>F: We see a lot of Ruffians worried about that thing!>M: But really...>M: We can't continue it...>F: Yeah, we're not burnt out>F: FWMC, we've had times like that before>M: Uhn>F: So we know when we're feeling like that, it's not that it's burning up ehehehe>M: We can't, we can't, we can't continue forever>F: Yeah pushing ourselves, pushing ourselves you know?>M: We've pushed ourselves so hard so hardWeren't they contradicting themselves here? Fuwawa started talking about how they are not feeling burnout, but Mococo was saying the opposite.
>>86397838how many non-white non-asian Holos have been hired?
stop looking at men and look at my wives instead
>>86397967Because they are experiencing burn out but they are dogs and dogs lie to hide their pain so they don't appear weak because they just want to be loved
>>86397348What do you want? A breakdown?>EN JP balanceKiara and Irys>Homework vs Stream vs HealthMori, Kiara, Bae, Irys>FavoritismNo clue, because that shit only shows up /here/ and the only real frames of reference I have are Kiara and Reine. Reine had one schizo who would scream in her threads regularly (and still does) that everyone seems to think is a guy who's been around for a long long time and is a big donator. Kiara had very little of it, to the point where she has a few goofy jokes using regular chatters names and no one bats an eye. There was some blowup way back when she was going heavy on pandering to Koreans because she saw a spike in Korean viewers for a little while.
>>86397967They're saying they're not burnt out, they have the drive their bodies are just reaching the limit
>>86397909I used to only like flat-chested tomboys and then Fuwawa came into my life
>>86397967No, there is no contradiction unless you're an ESL. They're saying they've experienced it before and they know they'll EVENTUALLY reach that point if they continue on like this
>>86397348>the favoritism loop seems addressed already by FWMCSeems just as addressed as the other things. Being addressed doesn't stop loops
>>86394092>>86397869Dunno who hosted last time
>>86397045That's fair, I didn't intend my post to come off that way. I think it's a smart bit of management, it's better to give them a good chance to bond together as a generation than to just throw the girls out there. Especially as EN grows so the pool of girls to possibly collab with grows.
>>86397967What they said is very clear. There's literally no contradiction here at all.
>>86398039Burn out is when you don't have the motivation to keep going because it's become too burdensome. Thats not their problem
>>86397909It's not a weakness, lad, embrace it and love breastslove them like your life depends on iti am too
>>86397967They're saying they don't feel (emotionally) burned out, but it can't go on because they are burned out (physically)It's not that hard to understand
>>86398086But burnout is something physical too, it's not only psychological. They'll obviously feel burnout if they eat like shit and don't sleep.
>>86398187Yeah, putting Advent and Justice through bootcamps to meet each other was a genius idea
>>86398270It's not even burned out YET, just that they can feel themselves hitting a limit and might have to make changes in the future to make things work.
>>86398186it was the other ranger, if they are not here then I can host
>>86398304They're saying the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak
>>86398027How are they so cuteThey put so much work into this
>>86398364The issue is they couldn't do it with Myth, outside of Mori and Kiara who lived in Japan at the time. And lo and behold, the two of them were the closest at debut and had some written stuff into their lore/debut with the TakaMori stuff. 2020 and 2021 were still heavily locked down years. so they (Myth and Council) couldn't meet in person, which matters a lot.
>>86398304See, that's the thingThey don't feel (motivationally) burned out
>>86398562If you're destroying your body because you're so focused and motivated to reach your goal thats the opposite of burn out. It might lead to burn out eventually but if you're waking up every day wanting to work more, and not avoid it then you haven't reached the point yet
>>86398510They're incredible on stage. And the fact that they tend to pick things that mean something to them just enhances everything tenfold. That kimi ga tame was amazing, but the story that came in the afterparty about their audition, Jesus, man. Legendary 3D Debut.
>>86397967They know what it feels like when they're close to burning out and they keep themselves just on the edge of burning out
realistically they have already earned enough money to comfortably retire, the only real issue is their visa
>>86398482 (me)I'll create a room at the 20
an asmr stream would probably give them 1 million within a weekjust sayin
>>86398807How does that work anyways? They have the ability to stay in Japan as long as they have a job?
>>86398084Kronii?
>>86398815Same name/pass as before?
>>86398890yeah sure, its wuffians pass bau bau if the new anon is here
>>86398883I've never set foot in infinity, but I'd believe you if the occasional leaking I saw out of there was anything to go by.Her health issues are due solely to her own personal choices, nothing related to streaming or homework.
>>86398882yes, basically. but they can apply for citizenship after they're there long enough for work, or if they marry a citizen. I am wealthy enough to not work anymore but was interviewing for JP jobs just to get a visa a while back before I took something else
>>86398882That's how visas work generally, yes
>>86399076personal choices like what
>>86399096Does Japan not have a green card equivalent for permanent residence for non-citizens?
>>86398882Yeah if its a work visa, which is what they have. To be full citizens they eithernhave to live/work there for while, buy a citizenship through some fucking program, or get married to a JP citizen.
>>86399161Surgery for personal reasons. It wasn't due to streaming or homework, it was just because she either wanted (or needed) whatever the surgery was for.
>>86398807>realistically they have already earned enough money to comfortably retireNot even close. It's almost impossible to get enough money to retire in a single yearRetiring requires a lot more money than you'd expect, and the amount they earn is also much less than it seems after splits and taxesNot to mention they'll probably reinvest a lot of their earnings into projects, in the end they'll probably have to keep working for a long while yet
>>86399225>The most important requirement of permanent residency is that you will need to have lived in Japan for 10 consecutive years. You’ll need to have had a work visa (就労ビザ, shuro biza) for at least five of those years.Jeasa
>>86399464Yeah they aren't getting that. No wonder they're trying to find a Japanese man to marry
>>86399225nta, I believe they do, but you have to jump through hoops, and you have to have lived there for 10 years, though
>>86399464Well they are in it for the long-haul, so it makes why they say theyll be in holo for a long long time
>>86398890Room is up
>>86399508Kek theybwould have done that a long long time ago if they wanted to marry their way in, anon.
>>86399597basically what I get from it is hololive has them completely at their mercy so there's no way they'll say no to anything because they're scared of upsetting management because it's the only thing keeping them in Japan. They don't want a repeat of the past which is why they are killing themselves working nonstop with no sign of slowing down
Gura is definitely graduating soon too isn't she?
>>86399973Yeah, in 2 weeks last I heard
>>86399508They’re waiting to get permanent residency so that they can marry me and then I can move to Japan, silly
bwos, I want to draw something but can't think of anything pther than lewds
>>86399225The two most realistic is the pay to win one of a business manager visahttps://residencies.io/residency/japan/temporary-residency/jp1Or a skilled professional visahttps://visaguide.world/asia/japan-visa/highly-skilled-professional/With the latter you can get permanent residency in just a year if you accumulate enough pointshttps://japanprcalculator.com/
>>86400407agri will happily buy them enough points
>>86400401Please draw Kronii and Fuwawa giving me a paizuri!
isn't it easier to be an English teacher? that's what mori did right?
>>86400401Man, lucky youAll I can think of are dynamic action pose that's way too much out of my skill league
>>86399760I'm sure their past experiences with things not working out are influencing things a lot, but I think fear of management is only a small part. Really, they're just ambitious and Hololive is a golden ticket for them and the last chance they have to achieve their dreams. And I think they've proven themselves enough so far to pull a Gura/Shion/Ayame/Haachama if they need to.
>>86400630>agriCome on man, at least use a piggie who's actually selflessly helped them with shit likenAndy. Agri is the worst pig to cuckpost with
>>86400897like analonel?
>>86400897I'm only saying it because he has a shitload of money. He's flying to Japan for the aquasoft celebration last minute just because he probably thinks they'll be there despite not knowing any japanese
>>86401079>despite not knowing any japaneseThat's all you needed to say.
>>86401078Nah, anal has done more unironically
jesus kiara is such an attention whore no wonder KFP are insufferable
Todd
>>86400407>70 points>80 if I pass N2Surprising. The yen being in the shitter definitely helps.
>>86401416Ruffians and KFP are friends. We love Kiara here, and thats a fact brother.
>>86401416Kill yourself FAGGOT
>>86401079That guy is a genuine otaku. He is flying to events within the states too. I wish I have the money to do so.
>>86400407jesus I almost qualify and I barely have done any japanese reps. If I did them for a year I could probably get a full residence
