Ivory Tower Edition>What is /BIG/?/BIG/ is a thread to find, share, and discuss the biggest indie vtubers who have on average 1000 viewers or more.>Can I shill my 999 CCV oshi here?No. 4views or higher only.>Wait isn't that one a corpo?Yes. Go talk about Corpo Vtubers in their appropriate threads.Other useful threads:>>>/vt//lig/>>>/vt//vsj+/>>>/vt//swarm/>>>/vt//flip/>>>/vt//haha/>>>/vt//mint/Previous Thread: >>86351277
Thread themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypP19NdZiE0
I love Lucy.
Hello fellow /big/ots
>>86372520Once ligger trash always ligger trash.
I love my cute, horny and bratty sex fox. I LOVE HER SO MUCH! Erm!
>>86372520Based
>>86372698she be bobbing and bopping
>>86372698When will Neuro become sentient and take over the world?
Wolf booba
filian is based
>>86373152Holy boobers
>>86373152I wanna suck on them
>>86372698she bouncin on my cock
Lucy is sure breasting boobily today.
>>86373212based on what?
Liggerman here. Can't wait to face you off in divegrass. It'll be glorious
>>86373438This is a joke right
>>86373438That would be cool
>>86373355Mommy MILKIES
>>86373410Based on my dick!*kills myself*
>>86373685not based on much then
Day 4 of suddenly having extremely erotic invasive thoughts about Kirsche Verstahl
>>86373410
>>86360423late to the party, but isegye's not really a corpothey were basically forced to make a real corporation for the music side of things with woowakgud as the president and they're very involved with parable entertainment which is kind of like korean mythic but biggertheoretically they own their IP and they do a lot of their own funding decisions, though I'm not sure whether that gets paid out themselves or through a management account and they're basically free to do what they want as long as it wouldn't bring harm to the group and overall wakgood community, but it's asia so they operate more cohesively than most vtuber groups and I'm not sure what would happen if they didn't--probably just exiledsoftcone tracks koreans https://viewership.softc.one/
>>86373438We'll see who's the BIGGER MAN
>>86373897>Around 200 people auditioned for the project, and ultimately six members were chosen to represent ISEGYE IDOL.Sounds like a corp to me.
>>86373438I hope this happens
>>86374141Post the clip
>>86373318da queen
Our Queen.
>>86374390imagine if moomoon did VRC as a staple of his content, but then had a hard time getting other streamers to hang out with him regularly and/or being weird cunts, so he started pulling regulars from the community to get involvedand then after a while of various group content they decided it'd be fun to make a joke kpop group and stream all the auditions, pick winners, maybe release some songs and then they'd just be normal sometimes members of the community but then the girls were actually really popular and it blew up into a real group
>>86374565https://x.com/snuffyowo/status/1839105314622197986
>>86374390It's all voluntary and community-driven, with less paperwork done than either Vshojo or 3am. It's like if the biggest indie in their country asked for six other indies to get together girlsFC style.
>>86374849based
>>86374985>voluntary and community-drivenThis is called slave labor in ofirst world countries.
>>86372814anny cute
Layna's last stream was so bad that I'm still reeling
I want to take Lucy Pyre on a fun date outside which she pretends to hate and pretends to get sunburnt extremely fast, and then we end it with a nice meal of her choice and maybe she'll stay over afterward and we can watch a stupid movie for her to talk over the entire time while she lays down in my lap and I feed her gatorwine from a baby bottle.
>>86375375I don't watch Layna so I wouldn't know
>>86375375layna cute
>>86375431i made this post
I also like making weird posts for when chuubas egosearch
>>86375431How was the stream today?
>>86375431That sounds very nise anon
>>86372814hey cutie :)
>>86375667Let's merge and have a good time!
https://www.twitch.tv/ellie_minibotwtf is Vedal’s hole doing in /big/ territory
>>86375667Please fuck me!
>>86374565>>86374849
>>86375842We love Ellie here
>>86375935BASED
>>86376077would
>>86374317harlot
>>86375842Never heard of her before
Is it just me or do womper’s tits look awesome today
>>86375604I'm not a big fan of Neuro and I'm glad Lucy doesn't treat it like a human like other vtubers
>>86376195She's one of the friends of the Neuro sama dev and she's making a robot dog for her to walk around in
>>86376306Oh, that's cool.
>>86376195autistic banjo player/engineer got the neuro raid, got spooked, then fumbled the bag by doing multiple bf collabs. Then again, it looks like cerber’s novelty has worn off with /swarm/ too
>>86376345cerber is like vanilla icecream (which is the most boring flavor)
>>86376345I think Ellie is from like an actual rich family, or at least financially secure, she pays new york rent and has a cushy STEM job, which she recently lost but she is already looking for a new one. She says the VTubing is more to find friends and do something rather that getting big number. Engineering is her actual career.
>>86376345>autistic banjo player/engineerThat's an unusual combination
>>86376484ok, but why?
>>86376531nerds like banjoit's mechanical and fun
>>86376512>he doesn’t know about the STEM job marketIf she keeps being /big/ it might be more lucrative, if mind-numbing
https://www.twitch.tv/shylily She's live btw
>>86376671I’m watching rn womper
>>86376671youre supposed to say womp womp
>>86376077I will never understand /swarm/
>>86376281So Lucy roasted neuro non stop and made Vedal look like a bad dad?
https://www.twitch.tv/juniperactiasmoth woman live
>>86376848Neuro doesnt like Lucy very much, and Lucy doesnt like Neuro either, maybe the first actual hostile Neuro collaber, its interesting at least, Id say.
>>86376884this is big not bug. you can post but remember your place
>>86376884how much dominos to reach /big/
>>86375842The only girl who reached 4view status because of Vedal is Camila and she was close to 1k already. Cerber didn't actually break 1k average in any month despite receiving so many raids from him, which was surprising.
>>86376848More like the other way around. The hidden contract for every Neuro collab is you have to create extremely easy setups for Neuro to dunk on you then act surprised when the chatbot owns you, like it is some extremely intelligent being.
>>86376884
>>86376935to be fair Vedal actually collabed with Camila rather than just appear on her chat or the ocassional cameo. And back when they collabed a lot the swarm or "neuroverse" didn't divided their attention on all these people, just Anny, Camila and Miyu at most. Now theres way too many people in Neuro's circle. There's even people in the circle of the circle.
juni said she's like a rose in a vase
>>86376959tbf the average IQ of a VTuber isnt exactly high to begin with. These girls cant figure out how to hook a cable or take flu medicine.
>>86376710>>86376721womp womp
>>86377134lily supremacy
>>86376671Isn't it like 11 pm for her
>I am the kind of person who looks better in pictures>My body looks better>I look worse in motion>Its not like I can rip my face offSqu…
>Juni: I'm been traveling Yeah, to Dominos
>>86377266>I’m beenpanko manko
I'm clearing out my todo list and found this, it was added in November and I'm not sure wtf I meant
>Camila and VedalAh that takes me back, I miss Vedmila, such an underrated dynamic they had...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnvfvwQjsvUThe Chinese loved it too
I fat shame juniper because she's a big girl and can handle it
limes soothing me to sleep while giving me a handjob
>>86377452chat-gpt expand on this thought
>>86377447We love /BIG/ girls here brother
>>86377452Computer turn this post into slopa image
Cerber is /in/
>>86377452Computer warp reality to make this come true
Speaking of BIG we need to start posting some big tits.
I keep expecting chuubas to do cool shit in this game but instead I get https://streamable.com/wsks9e
>>86377389It means that you wanted to fall asleep while holding Saru
>>86377793
>>86377797Kek
>>86377797does she have autism?
I still don't know what the name for the posters of this thread is but I wish you anons the bestif it really is serious thread and it will survive longer than a week I might move here
juni has a goon couch
>Bao particle*SNIFF**INHALES*
>>86378276we're big boys who are bigots
>>86377542>>86375842Posts like these are why we need to emphasize a precise time period for the average in the OP rules.
>>86378276It's a serious thread and you are welcomed here anytime, brother.
>>86378356I need her cellulitic ass on my face
>>86378525So one month average or three month average
https://www.twitch.tv/chibidoki
>>86378727autism creature
>>86372520what happened /nig/gers? thread drama?
>>86378081Making car noises when driving as an adult is perfectly normal
womp womp
>>86378714Well I don't think bad faith posting will really be an issue, but if it's 1 month then theoretically any chuuba could stream for 1 day, get raided, and become a 4view. 3 month would prevent that
>>86378682Same
>>86378714Three month average and chuubas suspected of botting should be prohibited
bao and juni went camping
>>86379013>chuubas suspected of botting should be prohibitedOliviabros...
>>86372520Why isn't Vei in the image?
>>86378872womp womp
>>86378925I agree, 3 months has enough data to give a true measure of a chuuba's CCV while averaging out low CCV streams like sponsors with high CCV streams due to raids.
>>86379057Bailed on the collab last minute.
Juni has goon fever
>>86379057Add her to the image
>>86379107Kraut flavoured onahole
>>86378925>>86379123thirded
>>86379288I wish they were real
>>86379057I just grabbed some random /BIG/ girls. I'm going to try to balance out who I put in the OP instead of just girls I watch. If anyone wants to make some OC with their favorite big, I'll be more than happy to use it as the OP in the future.
>>86377389Kek I do that too and eventually I forget what some of it even means like "jewelry rock" or if that has something to do with chuubas.It's also a good way to store random creative ideas for birthday cards.
>>86378714Growth often happens in short bursts between longer periods. 3 months might be too slow to track someone like Grimmi, where everyone could see she's a natty 4view after the hype period, but the 3 month average wouldn't show that because the gain still happened too quickly.Having a 1k minimum average already prevents 1k peak streams; so maybe we can put newly made 4views on a probation period if they make the monthly average.
>>86379057the same reason she's been live for 7 hours but none of you have anything to say about the stream
Bao's a screamer
https://www.twitch.tv/sinder
>>86379780what da pink cat doin?
>>86378872>>86379107She looks like she fucks old rich white guys
>>86379865Yeah, me
>>86379864Milking their prostate I hope.
>>86379490What if we made it so as long as they have a one month or three month 4view average they can be posted here? That seems pretty accommodating, and if they're not a 4view from their 1 or 3 month average there's really no room to argue that they should be posted here.
Sex with Ari
>>86379624Yay!
>>86380246Wolf tits in my face
>>86380095I bet if she was as popular as she is now around the time Nyan, Vei, and Silver left, VShojo would have picked her up. They were desperate to fill the hole those three leaving left back then. Now they seem to be avoiding picking up people who are close to the group.
>>86380285hell hound tits, ackshually.
I think all of the BIG chuubas SUCK!
>>86380285wolf tits coming right up
>>86380095>/vsj+/
>>86380471*puts on sunglasses*yeah, mine
>Numi is watching Lucy content
>>86380529Call me Romulus cuz I'm craving some wolf milk.
>>86379497because we're actually watching it
>>86379481did that once in an actual notebook when I went a long time without internet accesstook a couple years to get around to sorting through it
>>86380726
>>86380471Heh, yeah me
>>86381051Ruined mascara is so hot
>>86381051>>86381057HOLY BOOBERS
https://www.twitch.tv/leeandlie
>>86381051If she had a Sinder-tier voice she'd probably be a 5view
>>86380095Agreed
>>86380632Yeah I posted it there too >>86380031 It's debuting now btw
>>86381956>debuting now btwPost the link
>>86382056https://www.twitch.tv/arielle
>>86380078Some say the 1 month can be gamed; anyone that makes it can be monitored
>>86382174Lover her design.
>>86372520so this is a thing now
>>86379057Vei said not to include her on Discord.
>>86382215we need a control system with hysteresis so that vtubers don’t switch between being on and off topic as frequently
I'm actually kind of a fan how I don't have to skip through like, 20 threads to catch up to the latest thread from last night.
>>86383320Same
>>86383320i like how the thread is actually readable
>Switched to frontier fiber as an ips and it went out in less than two weeks of having it and it's been down for 13 hours now- let us finish Mouthwashing, I'm going insane, it was such a good game>My disappointment is immeasurablegrim can't win can she
>>86372698
>>86382215I mean I just say establish at the start of a month who's in and then refresh it every month. Conveniently enough October 1st is in like 2 days.
>>86378714one month average with a minimum of 40 hours streamed
>>86383500Cute Onahole
>>86383449whom?
>>86383504what if one vtuber is a 4view, but fails to reach that for just a single month before becoming a 4view again? what if one of them (probably nyan) fucks up so badly they become a 3view for ever? at which point are posters getting kicked out? what if a well established 4view goes on a break for a month?
>>86383735https://x.com/GrimmiVT/status/1840517295464149492mi grim
>>86383758Only the first one seems like a real issue and it's only a problem for people that are barely hovering at that 1k mark.
>>86383835grim
>>86372520Stop making me do double-takes thinking I scrolled past /beeg/
>>86383449deserved
>>86383449>>86383835Can she ever catch a break?
limes should sing more often
>>86383758discussion of one's prospects for /big/ status should always be on topic.There aren't that many people to track so we can group all edge cases into a grey zone
>>86384173Agreed
Vei has no right to be so charming
Vei doesn't really want us to leave. This is a test and I refuse to fail.
>>86385071it's not fair how charming she is
>>86385071She's playful today.
I really like this thread
Big collab forming with Ari. Zen and Haruka involved and Zen's going to grab more people. Probably Blurr then everyone else is a mystery.
>anon samefagging his gaslighting himself hoping people will joinohhh you know what i am actually enjoying this thread durdurdur ohhhh it's sooo slow i can post about things wow it is amazing gosh everyone should post here. what a wonderful place. always on topic and not 99% meta posting and samefagging.
>>86385603*cums on you*
>>86385455She has fat tits
>>86385603Schizoposting again anon?
>>86385603yet you're here and not in lig
>>86385377me too, it's pretty comfy
>>86385603*rapes you*
>>86385750i came to look at the weak excuse why /lig/ has more vei discussion than /big/ >>86380859then i laughed, a heart chuckle, like winnie the pooh.
>>86385958Go back to /lig/ lil nigga
>>86385603You caught me, every poster is just me pretending to oshi every big indie.
>>86386262I made this post
>>86383835Speaking as someone who works in the telecom scene, most likely she was informed about a new service that was run in her area, but since they're doing a lot of construction installing those lines it's likely that the lines are getting cut constantly while they're being installed.This is also likely why it's going to take time to fix, they have to first locate the break, determine whose fault it is that it was broken, and then fix it, probably with heavy machinery.
>>86386262This is me again.>Verification not required.
>>86385958>like winnie the poohpresident xi is it you?
Our Queen won.
Uh... Veikings... It's literally fucking over...
>>86386262That excuse might work if you know, you guys talked about more than the same 5 indies. No one is talking about the streams still, just claiming they're watching it and making inane posts about how awesome it is to be here.
no...
>>86386484>>86386513>>86386527IT'S OVER
>>86384018why the fuck isn't that thread on /d/ or somethingalso why the fuck is there no goosegoose, that bitch is 300m
She's just like me
>>86379013>chuubas suspected of botting should be prohibitedProblem is nobody can prove botting one way or the other and it just leads to a schizo jerkoff. If you want this thread to be a fresh slate best to just not even bring it up.
>>86386757
>>86386515Yet you haven't contributed anything but bitching about how other people post for their oshi...
Full body and there's the collab formed. Ari Zen Heavenly Blurr Mei and Haruka with Ruben on the way
>>86379013>chuubas suspected of botting should be prohibitedno one is guilty until proven otherwise buddyno, your suspicion is not proof
>>86386757that is why she is the Queen of 3 threads
>>86386919NTA but of course you can if you want to. I read a paper not too long ago where they developed a method to detect stock market bubbles as they were forming. Same can be done for botting
>>86386757da queen
>>86387390Again, all the tools people try to use in the past over at /lig/ have always had some form of reasonable doubt attached, especially that retarded extension that tries to prove chat activity as true viewership
Hackerling could be a 4view so easily if she actually tried and used her model.
>>86379050Oli would still likely be exempt here because even the people who claim someone is botting her channel admit she's over 1k CCV naturally, the debate is about if she's 2k+
>>86387671True, she's such a sweetheart
>>86387671we don't need anymore Vinesauce orbiters
>>86387781Yes we do
>>86379050nonissue, she's corpo
>They are already starting to wind you up into old /lig/ timeloops hereGood luck with the new thread
>>86387980Saruei and Shylily both have LLCs attached to their IPs, so they are corpo too.
>>86388058sorry liglet, you must be this /big/ to post
>>86388058No little bros allowed sweaty
>>86386757I don't know what this means
Post ass
>>86388223>>86388262not a ligger, vsj poster. I just see the writing on the wall for you dipshits already. That wasn't even bait and you guys couldn't resist replying.
>>86388394you already posted the best ass in town
>>86388477Damn right
>>86388418As another vsj fag, I reject this lowly mousefags opinion and endorse /big/ fully. I only watch deme tho and will only post about her very sporadically
>>86388781Oh deme is big alright
>>86388394
>>86387649its not "activity" at all, its an actual number returned by the twitch gql api
>>86387671Pretty sure she intentionally kneecapped herself, if I remember right she said something along the lines of how she would rather stay small and so she doesn't use the model.
>>86389075Ah, man. That sucks, but understandable I guess.
>>86388418Even if we have some bait and timeloops, I don't forsee how we could get as bad as /lig/. I also visit /vsj+/ to discuss Henya and Michi, and that thread also receives it's fair share of bait through plus spergs, trolls freaking out over Mei, or Mousefags arguing over Mouse's content and Connor the entire thread. Although /Mouse/ has helped alleviate that some.
>>86388781>>86389459listen i am not actively trying to stir shit here, but if they are gonna give it the ol' college try they have to avoid the same behaviors that made /lig/ a schizo den in the first place, and my original post was pointing out they were going right into a timeloop torn 1 for 1 out of there. It was meant as advice and they got overly defensive about it.
Welp, guess I'll watch some Chibidoki then
>>86389526Speaking of big how about you shut up and lemme see those titolies
Chairman Xi's finest is a big guy
>>86390106ngl i was just thinking it’s sad i can’t talk about her but sacrifices must be made
>>86390028
>>86390240Most blessed by Heaven
>>86390704LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>86390704Nice
>>86390704>kills your average
>>86390916no...
why is chibidoki so autistic?
>>86391116google the thalidomide scandal. it affected many bong children
>>86391116Microplastics
>>86391116What's her goal with hardcore vanilla Minecraft? Is she just playing normally until she dies, or does she want to defeat the Ender Dragon or something?
>>86389459>forsee how we could get as bad as /lig/All it takes is a singular idiot to claim the place as their personal shitting denAnd a complete lack of moderation for whatever reason
yuy loves debating whether she weird or not
>>86391390damn she has fat cheeks
>>86391410i just tuned in so idk
>>86391564And a fat cock
>>86391234funniest shit ever if you look up the past of those involved in producing it
NO CHIBIDOKI STOP RUINING MY IMMERSION
>>86391410You imply she has a goal, she plays single player MC every now and then to see how far she can get in a hardcore world, the furthest she's ever gotten was getting lucky spawns that led to the Nether and died soon after.Chibi is basically allergic to being considered "good" at anything, however, because she thinks that when people consider you as being good at something that is only one step away from being a tryhard, which she REALLY doesn't want to ever be because she thinks being a tryhard is cringe. As such, she'll make some dumb decisions that kill her time in a world within the first 5 minutes a few times, lock in enough to last between 30 minutes to 2 hours the next, then never touch the game again for another 3 months.
>>86391415one of the nice things about a slower thread is it's up for long enough that a janny might actually see the reports
>my mouth is small>my tongue is small>but I will fight geneticsThats my girl
>>86391661
>>86391390
>>86390269she sounds like tails here
>>86391893That reminds me why the fuck has Chibi played Buckshot Roulette so often. I only watch her live occasionally but she's played that game like a dozen times on stream and it's like a 1 stream game max
>Chibi is not like the other girls
>>86392135>>86392254
>>86392408
>>86392372>Think oh it can't be that often>She's streamed the game 24 times>75 hours totalIs she just going into the category as a bit or is she actually playing the game this much
>>86392372Same affliction as Filian. It’s an easy game to play optimally so maybe that makes them feel satisfied
she got into the Cell-Tech creatine
yuy eye x, yuy icks, or yuy 9?
>>86386484>>86386513>>86386527>>86386757So she is pregnant
>>86392737yuy icks but more like yuyicks
Man, we burned through this thread in just over 4 hours. Want me to use this >>86366887 as the next OP image, or should I just grab some art of a big that is currently live for the next OP?
>>86392713She's a big buff bitch now
>>86393089Use a pic of a big
>>86392713Scratch that, I'll use this as the next OP. I think it's better to not antagonize /lig/ too much at the moment.
chibidoki streams are so surreal man
>>86375604The collab part was pretty mid.Was her weakest stream in a while imhoLucy being great at collabs with people does apparently not translate into AI interactionsThe idea is great and Lucy's natural communication talent is a good fit for the therapist ideaBut you can't gaslight an AI that keeps being stuck on like 3 topics
>>86393920She shifts between having decently insightful takes, to being a retarded screaming gremlin at the drop of a hat.
Vedal drops the ball too much for organized collabs so I stopped getting hyped for them.
/big/ guys live:https://www.twitch.tv/sinder>Sinder: playing a early access FPS roguelikehttps://www.twitch.tv/chibidoki>Chibidoki: Minecraft autismhttps://www.twitch.tv/arielle>Ari: Pummel Party collab with Zenhttps://www.twitch.tv/murdercrumpet>Crumpet: TCG Shop Simulatorhttps://www.twitch.tv/leeandlie>AmaLee: Mass Effect
>>86394113yeah it boggles my mind lol
>>86378276I vote for: Biggermenits liggermen but fat
>>86394315legend thank you big man
>>86394315>AmaLee: Mass EffectI might actually watch that
>>86394257Vedal likes to half-ass things if he thinks he can get away with it. Like how he spent 5 minutes on the voice for the filian AI, and didn't even fine-tune the LLM on filian's chatlogs.
>>86394315 (Me)How should we treat biggas who are technically /big/ but not currently 4view ccv like Yuy
>>86394653As long as they have a 4view 1 month or 3 month average it's okay. >>86390704
>>86394653I think they’re big until the next month. At the start of a new month the big list is updated
>>86394385liggermen, but bigger5'11" lookin ass vs 6'
I'm a /big/ot
>>86394642Since it was for Filian specifically, having the AI be scuffed is both on brand and also kind of committing to the bit in a twisted sort of way.
>>86394257Dev streams (that in reality are just vedal toying around with neuro) are the only consistent source of good content everything else is a coin toss,
https://x.com/MintFantome/status/1840549507521826902 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxkVeaVdi_U
are all foxes destined to be /BIG/?
for you
>>86396133 (me)before you ask her 1 month average is almost exactly the same
>>86396031Any guesses on what the big announcement is?
>>86396477Model update or 3D maybe
You guys seem much nicer than lig and I think it’s very big of you
>>86396477Probably a new model
>>86394642to be fair he only got like 20 gifted out of it and he clearly was going to half ass it
>>86396566We've reached the point where we have enough posters for a sustainable thread, but not enough for the thread to be unusable yet.
>>86396566Thanks *precedes to rape you*
so, what of dooby?
>>86396991No CCV yet
Chibi found a lizard.
>>86396775>precedes
>>86396991She's fine>>86397037Let's be real, she's 100% going to be /big/ for at least her debut month. Probably permanent but I'll eat my hat if she doesn't average above 1k her debut month. That being said her current identity is off topic so take it elsewhere
>>86397043first time i've seen Chibidoki discussion
>>86397104I'm retarded
>>86396991She's going to stream as a super realistic 3D jerboa.
>>86397043What is she gonna do with it?
>>86397283She's ignoring it and eating guacamole.
>>86396991Sachi/Dooby is a wonderful person who is worthy of love and support
>>86396991She doesn't seem as ambitious or open as Dokibird or Filian so I don't know if there will be a niche for her.
>>86397582It is kinda funny wandering random catalog threads with people who've never left the Corpobox talking about her future prospects and I can't imagine she's going to even try to live up to what they're speculating about. If she even comes close to matching up to Zentreya or Filian I'll be surprised.
>>86397582Yeah, that's fair. I'm uncertain about her because of all the vagueness around her. I'll just have to wait and if what she ends up doing.
Thank you Chibi for blowing out my ears
>>86397582I think there's a market for VR and 3D skits, assuming that Dooby is strictly going to be a 3D vtuber.I don't see her streaming more than twice a week though
>>86398302I doubt it. She said she's a future full time streamer. A simple change in environment can completely revitalize someone's outlook. Like Mika at Niji went from a couple 2-3 hour streams a week to 5 12 hour streams a week at VShojo. Sure Niji is undoubtedly worse internally, but if someone feels constricted by their environment it doesn't really matter if their cage is nicer than the one next door. It's still a cage.
>>86397582I never watched her main account's streams because I have a deep Twitch bias, but from what little I do know of her stream style I really have to wonder what it is about her current job that she can't do compared to what she can do as an indie? She seems the type who would rather not to anything if she doesn't have a solid plan set in place.
>>86399049Whatchu looking at pink?
>>86398662>She said she's a future full time streamer.consistently streaming twice a week for 2-3 hours can also be considered going fulltime.I can't imagine her becoming a streaming machine like Michi but then again i never really watched her enough to really get a read on her.I guess we'll see what her plans are when she debuts
>>86398662If she intends to be a full-time Twitch streamer specializing in 3D, and Filian being Filian comes over and turns her into a creative sidebitch for content; I don't see her ccv being any lower than Layna's
Dooby will be an interesting case study for an Ex-HoloEn. The Ex-Nijis seem to have done well for themselves because their fans actually followed them and supported them(Not discounting the drama that happened, that's a different discussion). Their fans and themselves shifted very well into the indie scene. The questions are: Can and will HoloEn fans do the same? Does Dooby have the same backing and support as the Ex-Nijis did? And does she have the drive to make content and stream?
>>86399285
Chibi thinks Cadbury eggs taste like cum.
watching chibi is making my brain rot
>>86400072She's right
>>86400272Her history teacher had all her students taste black licorice to show them how bad slavery feels LMAO.
>>86399656Pink cat you okay?
>>86400422wtf man
>>86400532IKR, being enslaved doesn't feel THAT bad.
>>86399642I dunno, the HoloEN fanbase is very different from the (ex)Niji fanbase which was fine with vshojos like Melody/Froot and fleshtuber collabs..
>>86400422What if they liked it
>>86401193noone likes black licorice
>>86400928Pre-Selen termination the Nijisanji and VShojo fanbases were pretty neutral towards each other. VShojo and Niji collabs used to be pretty common. I feel like the Holo fanbase hates people outside their bubble more.
>>86401270Wow
>>86401422It's just HoloEN ironically enough. JP and especially ID don't have the same problems
>>86400461
>>86399642>Dooby doing everything alone, isolatedsub 2k>Dooby going after Doki, focusing on debuff fps with malessub 2k>Dooby engages with the whole indie community regarding 3d contentover 2k>Dooby quickly associates with Filian, Neuro or even Shondoover 2k
What is a dooby? stop making up biggers
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>>86399642I'm going to be 100% honest as a Holofag myself. I don't think the majority of her current fans will follow her. The fanbases of Hololive and Nijisanji are vastly different. For example, male fans: the ex-Nijisanji talents were never unicorn-friendly. Meanwhile, every time a Hololive member so much as breathes in a male's direction, it causes outrage among the fans. Another difference is brand loyalty. The ex-Nijisanji fanbase hated—and still hates—Nijisanji while loving their chuubas. They love the talents, not the company or brand. I can't really say the same for the Hololive EN fanbase. I could be wrong though. Only time will tell if I'm right or not.
>>86402878Eh, give it a week. But male collabs are absolutely going to fuck dooby over