>>86440062
Indies
>Indie coalition 3am release a series of school-themed animatics to tease and then announce their 2 new members: Lyra Calyptra and Fang Guu.
>Lilybelle Air, Airline Mascot Vtuber, will go on indefinite hiatus as of 10/14. Her fan discord and Youtube channel will be closed and archived (respectively) at that time.
>Nibble, the chinchilla mascot of ID indie Noemi Hestia, hosts a debut stream on 9/26.
>Gabriel Abyssia of EVREN announces that their father, who is currently hospitalized, has been recovering, and has been moved to the general ward of the hospital.
>SmugAlana, frostfire fox, releases merch via Uwumarket.
>Hiiragi Emuri celebrates her 4-year anniversary.
>Strawb announces 2 new partnerships with Advance Energy.
>Felynne deRouge, sneak thief chuuba, announces that she will be launching her Youtube channel on 10/4.
>Akami Karubi, JP indie, signs to UMG and Crazy Raccoon's streamer group.
>Raimi Ricotta of FlaVR releases merch.

Other
>ANISAMA VKAMI 2024, a cross-company vtuber concert, will be held on 12/15.
>Emuuki, an EN vtuber, claims that her and at least one other guest were roofied at a VIP-Only Party of vtubers at Twitchcon, despite the presence of security at the party.
>An unreasonably large number of vtubers were subject to suspension on Twitch as a result of false positives from Twitch's automated security system of using stolen payment information to purchase Bits. Reportedly, many of the affected accounts have not ever purchased Bits. While the issue has been resolved, the suspended vtubers' subscriptions were cancelled, and as a result, a large loss of revenue is expected, on Subtember no less.
>The Vtuber ID Awards voting are now open.

Local
>CorpoCar 6 proceeds with Rounds 3, 4, 5, and 6. Rounds 7 & 8 will be streamed on 10/4.
>VGTC concludes Rounds 6 & 7, won by Kiri and Korone respectively. Next races will start the Continental Blooo
>Garbage FES 2: Garbage Dimensions concludes, with /morig/ becoming this League's King of Trash Mountain.
>/vt/ League 7 concludes, with /uuu/ defeating /mogu/ to claim the /vt/ League trophy.
>Lord of the Board's commissioner announces that there will be an announcement on 10/5.

Corrections
>Previous reporting mistakenly referred to Poko Rakun as "Poko Rakan".

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Divegrass, Formula, HFZ, Tournaments, birthday plans, cards, group projects, anything goes.

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>>86440062
>V-Square, a Korean platform for providing fans a surpernatural digital playground, will collaborate with Gen 0.
>supernatural
what

>>86440756
I'm not sure what smol ame meant either.
The place looks pretty neat sorry for sharing VTND: https://vtubernewsdrop.com/south-korea-vsquare-store-launch-july-31/

>>86441469
It was built on top of mass grave of Tokugawa's first korean campaign and it's haunted.

>>86440193
was previously mentioned >>81437134
check the replies for more details
they're going beyond just pop up shop and it's a more permanent space, but supernatural is kind of a stretch

Question, is PL info tied to a current corpo talent allowed? Or maybe only allowed in special occasions such as "X talent is graduating, and her PL known as Y is announcing a return"?

>>86441883
>>86440756
oh woops, missed a reply

>>86442523
Talking about a corpo talent going back indie (Selen/Doki, Pomu/Mint) or having an indie alt is OK.
If it's about their IRL self, don't. >>1

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>>86440062
>>86440065
thanks for the bake!
>>86440193

>>86442523
I would think that connecting a new incarnation is only valid if the other incarnation is dead dead. For example, Amelia Watson is not dead dead, so you should not connect her with any other existing persona on the internet.

>>86442523
It's inappropriate to explicitly mention it, but the traditional oblique references to a PL existing while mentioning a new indie's debut are fine.

>>86445708
>>86446199
Oh yeah, Ame is technically not a graduation or termination, but a spcial, 3rd thing. Regardless, that answers my question, thank you very much.

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>>86440062
The idea of vtubers getting roofied at a con even though the entire appeal was that you didn't have to be there in person is just hilarious to me.

>>86440062
I just realized there's no Shishi Cup season 2 announcement in the list.

>>86452509
retard trend hoppers pretending that being a vtuber is just being a streamer drags down the entire hobby

>>86452509
>>86453222
>if you are a vtuber you can't go to cons anymore

>>86456087
what does the v stand for in vtuber anon

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>>86440084
Looking extremely likely that Mouse is going to break the all time sub record. She's only a little over 5k away and averaging 1k every ~5 minutes. Currently at #2 after surpassing Ninja's all time last night, and Ludwig's all time an hour or so ago.

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>>86440756
>>86441469
I double-checked the source used just now, and I'm not sure why I typed that, either, honestly.
I was pretty tired while writing the round-up, so I may have deliriously typed a few extra bits. I know there's more typos than normal, as well.

>>86456498
Are they on-stream when they're hanging out at a con?

>>86457348
Yeah, for example, its stil Blooo instead of block/bloc

>>86457814
Yes I did see when you pointed it out before.

>>86457814
My bad, forgot to fix it in OP

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>>86456690
And she's done it. Ironmouse is the new #1 all time subscribed streamer on the entirety of Twitch, beating out KaiCenat's previous all-time record of 306,622.

>>86458504
victory!

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>>86456690
>>86458504
>>86459446
Meh

>>86461845
Who cares, this is /news/ not /#/.

>>86462114
Don't tell me, I didn't start it.

>>86461845
still a victory over fleshies.

>>86462363
Since when have we been at war against them?

>>86463263
Since the beginning of time.

>>86463263
ever since both big platforms have declared a war on them by selectively enforcing rules in a way that only fl*shies benefit.

>>86463263
ever since some vtubers migrated to Twitch.

>>86440084
Amelia Watsons final stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbsG-0_zA-s

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>>86440756
>install it
>demons begin to crawl out of my screen

>>86462114
It’s probably blatant astroturf in my opinion but it’s simply not worth printing without solid evidence behind it.

>>86461845
Congratulations anon you've learned what a subathon is

>>86466224
Does this mean I could potentially get my own Towa?

>>86440178
The Ironmouse story is pushed by Twitch so they can cover up the flagrant abuses their moderation has been enacting on smaller vtubers, in a "We can't be racist, we have black friends!" sort of way.
>We can't be discriminating against vtubers for minor offenses we let fleshtubers get away with in droves! Our best performer is a vtuber!

>>86470331
I believe this because it is too funny for it not to be true.

>>86470331
>is pushed by Twitch
Is it being pushed by them? I haven't seen anything in particular.

>>86440065
>Indie coalition 3am
what makes you think vshojo is a corpo and 3am is a "indie coalition" ?

>>86473828
does 3am receive venture capital funds?

>>86474023
if they did it wouldn't have to be made public

>>86474578
They don't have an LLC, don't pay for lawyers or much of anything else, don't take a cut, can't stop you from streaming or make you delete twitter posts. If 3am is a corpo, then so are the Bikini Bottoms. Suffice to say, not every group of friends is a corporation.

>>86474944
3am does have an active LLC, but that doesn't mean a whole lot since indies make LLCs for their brand anyways for tax and personal safety reasons (shylily, nyanners and Saruei being examples). Now the biggest indicator that 3am isn't a corpo-corpo is the fact they seem to be funded mostly through a patreon that's fan supported. Pretty much no corpo funds itself through patreon.

>>86469947
Or you could get your very own mike cat.

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>>86473828
>>86474023
>>86474578
>>86475416
>>86474944
Since this is coming up here, /lig/ had a guy dig into the LLC back in march and come to the conclusion the LLC is probably owned by the girls themselves, which is what VICHIBAN does as well. As a side note this post was about a month or so before someone in /lig/ sniffed out MSM not having an active LLC and the owner's legal problems. I've always suspected it being the same dude.

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>>86473828
In all artistic media where corpos touch, the primary deciding factor between "Independent Artist" and "Corporate Artist" is "Who owns the rights".
If you own everything you create, then you're an indie. You could have a team on payroll that operates as a company, but if you can walk out on them with little to no risk to your own IP, so long as you settled obligations, you're indie.
If somebody else owns everything you do, and you're just a talent bringing the art to life, you're corpo.

Everyone in vshojo owns their own IP and could reasonably leave at any time. We've seen this happen multiple times. They were, and are, indies with a company as a support structure.
Yuri didn't walk out of Phase Connect with her IP, despite walking in with it. She was corpo.
>What about the ones leaving Idol? Don't they technically own their IP?
Talents like Rin are in a weird in-between state where they have a stake in their IP, but don't completely own it until November 2025. However, I believe this is an exception that helps to prove the rule: The thing in contention between the talent being fully independent, and the company having say over the talent, is the IP itself. Another interesting related piece of information is that there were legitimate concerns over whether GIN Penrose, the character played by Rin's IRL mother, was considered part and parcel with the Rin Penrose IP, or if Brave could pull a fast one. Idol clarified to Rin later that they considered the two bundled, but the fact that it was a question at all should help draw the lines a bit clearer.

>>86477059
a lot of words, but this is pure cope.
If you work for a corporation you are "corpo" and if you don't work for one you are "indie".
There is no debate, that is the irrefutable truth.

>>86477484
>Work for a company
>But they don't do anything
>You don't get anything
>In fact, you don't even work for them legally because they don't give you proper contracts
By this logic, NijiID, NijiEN, and MSM Talent aren't corpos, and all of those talents are indies.

>>86477765
I think you didn't understand me, my point is that if you work for a corporation you can't be an indie.

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>>86440084
>>86466166

>>86477484
I agree with your definition, but come to a different conclusion because a different understanding of the term "work for". For indies (like Bao &c.) who have an LLC, they're not "work[ing] for" the company; the company "work[s] for" them (by providing liability insurance and tax benefits). The same can be said of indie coalitions like 3am.

>>86477765
Well, 2 of those you mentioned are dead and one is on their way out, so you may be into something anon.

>>86478170
is it over? i've been in class for 2.5 hours so i haven't been able to watch the stream.....

>>86478730
It starts in 15 minutes as of this post.

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>>86466166
>>86478170
Update: it has been delayed for 40 minutes.

>>86478545
ok, good point.

>>86479409
KINO

>>86480822
I don't understand, why kino?

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>>86440084
https://www.billboard-japan.com/d_news/detail/142113
Suisei guerilla live in the streets of Shibuya where she unveiled her new song Moonlight

>>86440084
https://x.com/TBSCDTV/status/1840723273791016978
Suisei to appear in a terrestrial TV program CountDownTV Live! Live! aired by TBS Television on the 7th of October 1830 JST

>>86493682
>>86495199
anon, check the OP.

>>86496202
Oh I skimmed through the CDTV part, but the street live isn't there

>>86475416
Nyanners? She's still around? I only know her from her k1wifarms.

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>>86440084
o7

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>>86440084
https://x.com/watsonameliaEN/status/1840965917376684125
The ame aquarium is now available to the public

>>86474944
Vshojo can't stop you from streaming or make you delete twitter posts either, Geega was talking about that the other day.

>>86513065
Yeah, they would just "strongly advise" you to delete your tweet.

>>86510471
based

>>86513065
>Geega was talking about that the other day.
nta but I don't believe her

>>86514085
How can they possibly enforce any sort of control? That simply isn't how the company is structured.

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>>86513065
AND OTHER HILARIOUS JOKES VSHOKEKS ACTUALLY BELIEVE

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>>86440084
jp indie? (she was the pr/media person for V-TIPS & writer for vtuber style) news
ChumuNote signed management contract with Remedy & Company
https://x.com/remedy__JP/status/1840935553317159112
from >>86490468

big? corpo news
Brave Group's RIOT Music has new CEO and Directors (MTL attached)
https://riot-music.com/info/2024/10/01/45576/
of note, Genki Kubo used to be at Cover according to >>86506456
the name rings a bell to me but someone with linkedin account should check

>>86518017
more like a swap. when are they swapping the new cocoa in? it's almost a year now

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>>86440084
https://x.com/animefestasia/status/1840979958690173014?t=ne_qcUVPnBdTJp9oC9AIng&s=19
Holo meet at AFA

>>86517335
>so I did
I know English is hard but her saying this means that she had to option to not do it

>>86518270
Holy shit they got Kana-Boon

>>86518639
Yeah, just like how you have the option to take a shit on your boss's desk

>>86518017
/vsinger/ anon is extra retarded today. it's in the article

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>>86440129
Vladivostok Anon here, feeling better but let's focus on today's report!

ANYCOLOR STUMBLES
Despite Anycolor's best efforts, they fall short of the line as they close out at 2486 yen (-19) for their Tuesday price. Going by the minute, Anycolor recovered well to get back to barely in the green. but failed to hold on to their gains as they slowly slumped to just below the line shortly after lunch. They now look at a 72 yen loss for the week overall, but looking at the last 2 weeks I would not be surprised to see a rise.

COVER DOES NOTHING
Cover is on the fence in results today, as they manage to stay at 1800 (0) to close out the day. This comes after managing to stay in the green after lunch despite their rough start earlier today. Still, they're deeper in the red compared to their competitor as they still hold Monday's 82 yen loss for the week overall.

Furthermore, today is the first day of Cover's Q3 has Q2 has now ended.

OTHER
The NIKKEI manages to rebound slightly from yesterday's fall. Clocking in at a 1.93% gain for the day.
Trading Volumes to do detective work with.
Anycolor: 594k
Cover Corp: 1.46 Million

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>>86520402
And lastly here's Cover.

That's all for this Tuesday report, I'll see you tomorrow at the half way point. Stay safe.

>>86473828
Both of them are corpos by definition, they both call themselves a "talent agency" now.
Coqui once called 3AM an "indie coalition" so it got stuck and that's why I didn't even bother to change it in the OP. But since then, it grew from a coalition into an established group.

>>86513065
People really tend to think Geega is always right, and she likes to babble like she's the biggest pro in the "industry". But she gets quiet really fast and try to hide as much as possible about her failures and bad choices.
>>86517335
I don't like how management weighted in, but the fact she could even say it was a request from them just shows that she may have had a choice, and that they don't have full control on her.
VShojo JP talents might also have rules in their contracts regarding social media, due to the regular and generalized harassment ("slanders") Twitter users have there.

>>86520402
Glad you're doing better, thanks anon. Totally saw that.

>>86440143
The equivalent of playing the smallest violin during these trying times.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTAAFOElU1M

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>>86440084
3 Re.αLIVE talents have been terminated, no reason given
>Kirima Mieru https://www.youtube.com/@kirimamieru_
>Kanzaki Ouka https://www.youtube.com/@kanzakiouka_
>Tozaeru D. Grandma https://www.youtube.com/@tozadx

https://x.com/realivepro/status/1840949762503426332

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>>86521024
>Coqui once called 3AM an "indie coalition" so it got stuck
I didn't know that, actually.
I started calling them an "indie coalition" because I needed an abridged way to refer to them, and that's what they are: a coalition of indies.
Only reason vShojo doesn't get the same treatment in round-ups is because they have their own section.

its really silent in the NIji Side of news for some time now huh

>>86523618
the graduation queue is moving again. everyone is just waiting on who's next this month.

>>86523584
I don't think you can classify Vshojo in that category because they have staff and a CEO that is independent and have their own goals separate from what a collective would have and the recent news shows as much.

>>86522808
Huh, I looked at the two other talents not mentioned here, based on the list from their website that isn't updated since December 2023. 風鳴ウノハ (Unoha) already graduated in November 2023, and 天我テンカ (Tenka) hasn't been seen since January, with her last tweet on February 14th.
So the company is now gone, I presume.
>>86523584
I'm going to backtrack a bit, as I'm not sure that she used "coalition", but she did describe it as an indie group.

>>86522808
Re.alive, more like Un.alive, am I right?

>>86523618
JP's been getting sponsorships, but not much else is going on there that would make it here.
ID's strongest news has been collabs, which is pretty standard for ID as a region.
EN is...well, I think saying "NijiEN dies any day now" is probably one of the least schizo rrats on the board these days.

I'm sure there's SOME stuff going on that's worth reporting on, but nobody is reporting on it, and the Niji threads can be hellholes to navigate for information-gathering, due to /vt/'s general hostility towards the company.

>>86523703
Yep, seems like it's over for them. This year has been disastrous for the micro-corpo scene, a lot of them can't manage to even reach 5k subs per talent in years, so they just give up.

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>>86523618
Hey it's not my fault op forgot to include when this guy got doki'd in the op

>>86523868
>ID's strongest news has been collabs
Anon... NijiID... It....

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>>86440084
https://x.com/hololive_En/status/1841040454684438537
Promise holomini is out

>>86523868
>NijiID
Anon…
But also I literally don’t see the issue. The thread has worked 99% on the same principle, you post your news and quote the anchor, and it gets added.
If the Nijisis don’t report, I don’t see why people should dive in the threads to do it for them. It’s just that simple.

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>>86440084
Musube Yui, notable Japanese indie, will be taking an indefinite hiatus from November 2
https://x.com/musubimeyui/status/1841040665461080555
https://www.youtube.com/@musubimeyui

>>86440084
https://x.com/mintfantome/status/1840990500406386922
For Mint’s burthday, the Wisps surprised her with a billboard spot in Akiba, where she currently is.

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https://x.com/dmrvkv/status/1840615345075454382
The niji virgin shrinks and withers in the presence of a holochad

>>86523584
in fairness to you this has been something /lig/'s been arguing about for the better part of a year now with 3am and VICHIBAN so your assessment of how to categorize them is probably the best route to treat it since that's basically how /lig/ itself treats it

>>86520402
>today is the first day of Cover's Q3 has Q2 has now ended.
what did he mean by this?

>>86527680
I think it means Q2 ended with September. It’s so confusing, the fact every corpo has it’s own splitting of the year.

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>>86440104
>>86526280

>>86530066
kek

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>>86440084
Palette Project 3D debuts announced

https://x.com/PaletteProject_/status/1841089145416126957

>>86476944
I hope that /lig/ anon comes here sometimes, /news/ could absolutely use the help of someone like that.
>>86477059
I can get behind this definition. As an indie, making your own LLC just makes sense beyond a certain level, and it doesn't turn you into a corpo chuuba.

>>86513065
I'm sorry anon, but I won't consider the chuuba covering for both vshojo and msm talent to be a reliable source, I'm more inclined to believe the opposite of what she says.

>>86524242
Doubt you guys care, but here's an update on this. The stream has been reinstated and the chat log is still there which indicates that there's been no cuts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11i03cLl1BI
It seems that Nijisanji management may be fine with Doki being on stream as long as her voice or model isn't. I've also heard that Victoria was able to watch Doki's matches in the Sajam Slam which would corroborate my theory but I haven't seen the VOD myself.

>>86532446
She never covered for MSM talent, rrat peddler.
The only thing she was saying is that she was satisfied in what they offered for her.

>>86532626
What's the point of privating said vod in the first place then?
Knee jerk reaction?

>>86533230
It's likely that he thought it was against the rules and had to confirm with management, yes.

>>86532626
>Victoria was able to watch Doki's matches in the Sajam Slam
Not only that but when she watched the final at TwitchCon she laughed about Sykkuno wearing a Doki cosplay (she specifically said Doki's name) and called him a coward for not putting the wig on.

>>86533230
he's that scared of Doki

>>86533373
Yeah, I think it's more likely that nijien "management" saw people mocking their reaction towards anything Doki related and backtracked.

Maybe this isn't the place to ask but:
Has one of your kind ever charted the time between debut an retirement, and so doing come to an average lifespan?

>>86533570
eyeballing it most vtubers last between 3-5 years

>>86533570
Like for chuubas in general?
Because there are countless indie chuubas that debuted and graduated in the span of a single month

>>86518639
It doesn't imply that at all, actually. She was "told ... to" delete, and she "did" delete it. It does not imply either that she did or that she did not have a choice in the matter. The only thing it implies is that VShojo and/or VShojo JP management have enough power over talents to make kson delete that post--and this is what tipped me over the edge into believing that VShojo is more like a corpo than an indie coalition.

>>86533770
Keep in mind she used the word
>told
instead of
>advised

>>86440084
has anyone anchored the ame-final-stream-merch yet?

>>86534016
nope, go ahead

>>86533652
hmm, that may just be the average lifespan of any recognizable individual on the web, or at least their window of highest relevancy.
>>86533664
>Like for chuubas in general?
I guess the full deep-dive dataset would contain things like if they were indie or not too.
I only hear of vtubers whenever a big one stops, and the data scientists in me is curios just how often this happens and maybe some other stats.
it there a general database or wiki for vtubing? or is there to much faction warfare for that?

>>86533770
Except that we have it straight from a talent's mouth that VShojo management can ONLY advise, not demand.

"Telling" someone to do something does not mean you have authority over them.
I can tell you to eat shit, does that mean you have to do it?

>>86530066
kek

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>>86534321
There is a vtuber wiki
https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Retired

And some database like
- https://www.vstats.jp/
- https://pvc.moe/creator

You should try asking in /#/ threads, some anons there usually have a lot of data

>>86534321
Stronny Cuttles did say once that she thought creators online had a lifespan of about that much time before they had to change things up to stay relevant.

>>86535400
generally they only have data regarding the big names, especially these days after the jp indie fans left and the nijiniggers got genocided

>>86534321
It's tough to map out the smaller talents, because most of the ones that die are literal 1~2 views that quit without anybody having known they existed, let alone having been recorded.
There's also stuff like Reincarnations to consider. While /vt/ is usually pretty good at tracking down talents' histories once they show up in a corpo, a small indie reincarnating as another small indie can be much harder to track look no further for proof of that than the ongoing saga of Mel Nekomata.

The data you want to see is very dirty and likely could never be properly cleaned.

>>86518639
>>86533770
>>86533846
Keep in mind that Kson is so multilingual that she frequently makes mistakes in both English and Japanese. Personally I think she was probably told by manager to delete the tweet - but it's also possible she doesn't fully understand the difference between "told" and "advised"

>>86537231
>it's also possible she doesn't fully understand the difference between "told" and "advised"
Anon, come the fuck on.

>>86534406
Are you my boss?
Does my livelihood depends on your whims?

>>86537289
Like I said I think she probably was told to delete the the tweet - but her knowledge of written English isn't amazing (unless it's improved in the few years since she left - I haven't watched her during that period). I'm just saying it's a possibility.

>>86537231
Plenty of indies have tard-wranglers that "tell" them to do things. Some of them just happen to get paid and are called "managers".

>>86537534
>her knowledge of written English isn't amazing
This is a pure conjecture on your part.

>>86537717
It's obviously not - watch her reddit review streams.

>>86537882
Beside the occasional typos, there's nothing to suggest she can't differentiate between an order and a suggestion.
Georgia is in the middle of the pack in term of US public education system, anon.

>>86440084
New Vshojo teaser
>>86526677

>>86538587
>no source
not news, rrat

>>86538587
Please don't anchor it to news without any verifiable source

>>86537965
I think you've misunderstood what I'm saying - I don't think she misunderstood what the manager said to her, I think her lack of knowledge about the English language resulted in her using the wrong word to covey her meaning across. I was talking about her ability to understand written English (which directly reflects how well someone can type in English) and she very frequently stumbles over her words in the old streams. She would also sometimes mistranslate the meaning of sentences.

>>86534406
>>86537231
I think there are two important things in her statement: that a "manager" did it, and that she was "told" to do it. The fact of the manager is very important. If VShojo was really just an indie coalition with some extra people hired on to deal with merch, sponsorships, events, &c., then there would be no need for middle-level managers. Presumably, the request came in from Froot since Froot wanted solely positive coverage of her ... poor choice in releasing that document. If VShojo was an indie coalition, Froot would have had to have told Kson that herself; but Froot took advantage of VShojo's real, corporate structure, and got a manager to tell Kson to delete the post. This manager-with-power-over-talents structure is a key feature of true corpos (Holo/Niji) and is a strong indicator here. The second thing is that she was "told" to act. Now, even assuming a poor grasp of the English language, the word "told" is broad enough to cover a range of power differentials. A subordinate can "tell" a boss that some work needs to be done, a co-worker can "tell" another what work has been done (and thus, by implication, what remains for the other), and of course a boss can "tell" (direct) a subordinate to act. There are, of course, other situations where one might "tell" another to do something--such as in an advising role--but there is no clear implication, either of the power to force action or of the lack of that power, from just the word "tell". The fact this manager was able to "tell" Kson to do something indicates that he had a role between an advisor and a superior--we can only speculate as to the details. But the presence of some non-VTuber with the power to "tell" a VTuber how to act is another tell of corpo structure, in contradistinction to an indie coalition. I think a number of anons are misled by the origins of VShojo (and statements made in the past); while it may have begun as a formal indie coalition with some light corporate structure, now the corpo-ness has grown such that the corpo has the power to influence the talents, and not the other way around. I don't think this will do much for the "talent freedom" brand, though,--even though they are rather more limited than that moniker would imply--as the VShojo girls who haven't left all think more or less along the same lines. There's a reason they've joined the company and not subsequently left it, after all.

>>86538767
>she very frequently stumbles over her words in the old streams
>the old streams
And how old is this post, anon?

>>86440178
Suisei is grooming a minor (15yo) girl
she said she wants to go to a karaoke with tuki the other day, now tuki tweets this https://x.com/tuki_music_/status/1841037946247659974

>>86534141
>>86534016
https://x.com/hololivetv/status/1840949770161983500
Ame releases a final line of merch, with the inoffensive title of "Immortalized as Marketable Plushies Together 4EVER".

>>86538934
I'm not sure what you're trying to imply in this reply - I've already said that it's been years since I watched her so maybe her English improved.

>>86539319
>her English improved
I still don't know if you're serious or just shitposting.

>>86539387
This isn't a catalog thread so can you stop being a faggot and just say what you mean?

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>>86440084
https://x.com/hololivetv/status/1841130965726531833
Korone releases a new song "Mad POPCORN World!" on her birthday, along with a new outfit
https://x.com/fuka_hire/status/1841085214606713252

>>86539516
>ad hominem
Nice.
Let me ask you this, what is Kson's native language?

>>86539642
>ad hominem
I was replying civilly to an anon who obviously fundamentally disagreed with me - but if some cunt is going to wade in with vague replies then yes I'm not going to be respectful towards them.
>Let me ask you this
Have you interacted with people who speak multiple languages nearly fluently? I have - and I can tell you that they begin to lose full understanding of their native language.

>>86539989
>they begin to lose full understanding of their native language
To the extent that she can't distinguish between told and advise?

>>86539989
I don't think Mori ever has this problem and I think both her and Kson have been in Japan for similar amount of time.

>>86540145
Yes, possibly. The funny thing is that you didn't read the full reply chain where I said that I thought the manager DID tell her (rather than advise her) to delete the tweet, I was just suggesting there might have been a misunderstanding. I stand by the fact Kson might have misunderstood the difference in meaning between "told" or "advised" or even "suggested"

>>86540489
But that was exactly my issue with your post because it's all based on conjectures.
Occam's razor says that Vshojo is no longer an indie coalition and Kson knows the difference between told as in ordered and advised.

>>86539013
"Say Suzy, I heard you like em young
Ye better ever not go to cell block 1"

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>>86440084
You guys remember Nexas, the battle royal microcorp that debuted like 50 chuubas over 3 months? Well they just had another special guest lecture, this time on how to stay out of drama. the lecturer? known dramatuber and shitstirrer, rima evenstar.
https://x.com/NEXAS_live/status/1841130953571516710

>>86440062
whos that gyaru?!

>>86541450
>how to stay out of drama
>assumption that you already fucked up enough to need to apologize on stream

>>86540737
>conjecture
But that's all our discussions about things behind the scenes. Ultimately there is no evidence that she was forced to delete the tweet - you and I both think she was - but there isn't any proof and Occam's Razor isn't proof - it's just probability.

>>86540354
I can't properly reply to you without getting a three day ban for breaking Rule 2. But I'd advise you to do your reps.

>>86541489
Her name's right under the picture, anon.

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>>86440161
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SO3SNqE4Ls
2:54:14
Enna rant about Nijisanji haters
>obviously there's a lot of things we can work on, just like any other company
>if people don't understand that, I think it's crazy
>I get so many opportunities
>I always adjust myself whenever I get hung up over things that might not make me so happy
>I'm really really happy to be here
2:57:02
>This year was filled with so many people, like, jumping on the wagon and shitting on us
>but I really really don't care
>I'd rather be like that then jumping on the bandwagon to be a part of, something that's not even that cool (shots at Hololive?)

>>86542052
I know about their pl anon.
Mori came to Japan in 2013-2014 for her JET programme and Kson enrolled in japanese uni back in 2014 I think?

>>86542735
I can taste the sour grapes already

>>86440193
>ESLs arguing with ESLs about English for 20+ posts

>>86542735
Dumb bitch

>>86542735
>>86440178
rrats from Watson's grad stream say the Ennabotter is Enna. Cannot confirm.

>>86542735
not news, rrat

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>>86440084
https://x.com/youtooz/status/1840466777157124347
Ame and Gura youtooz now available for pre-order

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>>86440084
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8JSv6WJsN4
This actually happened a few days ago but I don't think anyone reported it, Kobo got sponsored by Honda Indonesia for a scooter promotion

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>>86472040
>>86472422
>>86470331
It was discussed in /#/ but tldr;
>Most of her subs are GIFT subs
>There's a 100% public chart that shows streamer subs (twitchtracker)
>As of the writing of this post, Ironmouse's subs are nearly 92% gift subs, 92 fucking percent. That means...
>That means a really really rich 8% is propping up her numbers
>Math says that she only has 28865 actual subs
>30k people/orgs are inflating Mousey's numbers.
>Anons cannot believe a single group would be this cohesive so it must a decision from up to down
>Most likely Twitch itself
>And associates
>"Source???"
>Again, pic related. But there's also another image that shows that at one point, TWITCH ITSELF was the biggest subber to Mousey. Gifting thousands of subs.
>Anons theorize Twitch noticed that it looked like a really obvious "industry plant" situation so now they are using a proxy (an alt or several) to disguise themselves among her viewers and biggest subbers.
>This way Mousey's numbers get raised without looking that much obvious how unnatural those are.
>I don't know enough about Numbahs but apparently /#/ anons made the calculations and Gura still makes more money (they laffed at me when I asked if Mousey was really at the top), a really retarded amount, way more than Mousey, even taking into consideration all the cuts from COVER and taxes which is uh... Really interesting.
>Verdict: Twitch knows VTubers are going up and up so they are trying to create a Twitch-endorsed chuuba to curbstomp any criticism towards the platform, not just to Mousey, but to Twitch itself.
>You now remember than GunRun helped create Twitch, which makes this all the more obvious
>Which means VShojo is not a regular corpo, much less the paradise it seemingly is, GunRun, the girls, all those fleshies, it's real purpose, it is-

>>86440084
https://x.com/darlingstrawbie/status/1841167297815187875
Strawb plush (spooky)

>>86545754
>TWITCH ITSELF was the biggest subber to Mousey. Gifting thousands of subs.
This was because of the bonus subs thing Twitch was doing from the 26th to the 30th where they would give anybody extra subs from Twitch if someone gifts some.

>>86545754
>that at one point, TWITCH ITSELF was the biggest subber to Mousey. Gifting thousands of subs.
During September they run a promotion where they give away subs as a bonus on top of gifting and this bonus shows up as from twitch. Bits too. Just my 2c.

>>86545754
>there's also another image that shows that at one point, TWITCH ITSELF
Do you have this image?
Also, is there a public chart that shows who donated all of these subs?
>Gura still makes more money
I don't doubt this--so much of Twitch /#/ are fake--but do you have a >>? I would like to look over /#/ anons' work. Twitch sells itself as being better than YouTube, but it's not as pretty as it looks. Also, especially for Gura, merchandizing and events make up a much higher share.

>>86545754
I KNEW IT, it was money laundering all along.

>>86537503
VShojo is not their talents' boss.
A talent manager is not the same thing as a retail manager.

>>86538784
>Presumably, the request came in from Froot since Froot wanted solely positive coverage of her
Holy rrat
Shut the fuck up

>>86545754
>/#/
Anything /#/ says about VShojo should be immediately discarded. They both don't know what they're talking about AND intentionally twist it to be as bad as possible.

>TWITCH ITSELF was the biggest subber to Mousey. Gifting thousands of subs.
During the final stretch of Subtember (a site-wide event with various discounts and bonuses on subs), Twitch gave 1 additional sub for every 5 subs gifted, with a chance for a random amount added on top. Mouse is not the only streamer for whom Twitch made the top of the leaderboard in the last week.

/#/ doesn't know this, because none of them pay attention to Twitch unless it's to seethe about it.

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>>86546061
>>86546179
See
>>86545980
>>86545950
OP here (not this OP)>>86440062 but this one >>86545754
It discredits the Twitch subs part I mentioned, but it DOESN'T discredit the obvious proxies and the 92% worth of unnatural subs and numbers overall. 30k people, majority most likely not real users which means sub 30k-20k, are making Mousey look 11-15x times bigger than she is.
Point still stands, Mousey is NOT as big as she appears to be. And again... GunRun and Twitch... And VShojo... Something isn't right.
Look, Mousey doesn't look like a bad person so I still have a faint hope someone will sweep right in later and discredit all of my claims with some harder evidence, because if not, that means...
It also means she's willingly letting herself be the sacrificial lamb for something that is clearly not well intentioned in the end.
Some Autistic Dragoon come in and tell me Doki ain't doing this fuckery.
I'm thinking of cross-referencing numbers of other allegedly big chuubas, ther e might be MORE of these sub anomalies and no one has really bothered to point it out.
Also, Zentreya's subs are in a similar position:
6773 subs and 4327 are gifted subs so:
(4327 / 6773) * 100 ≈ 63.94%
Nearly 64% of Zen's subs are gifted, which means Zen's only has 2446 actual subs. Which means that yet again, there's an absurd level of "wealthy" there ramping up the numbers in less than 2.5k people.
I could do this math thing all day.
Someone correct my numbers and alleged rrat if it ain't right.

>>86546694
Have you never seen a subathon before? The other numbers you're seeing in that list are from people not currently doing subathons. This is how they work. The fans gifting a ton. Go be a schizo somewhere else.

>>86546694
Interesting. Youtube and twitch numbers are hard to compare but I will put a pin in this simply because my oshi who is on paper much, much smaller than Zen or Mouse has had at one point 2K members on YT.

>>86546687
>/#/ doesn't know this, because none of them pay attention to Twitch unless it's to seethe about it.
reminder that /#/ knows so little about twitch operationally that /lig/ has their own numbers anon who tracks everything for the indies on a tracker site they themselves set up

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>>86545754
>>86546694
There's also clearly worse cases like Anny.
Seriously, look at this shit. 1k actual people are subs, the rest aren't there.
>>86546828
That just makes it worse, because it means the numbers have a large fucking margin of error when it comes to how many are real people. Which means the actual audience is even LOWER than what the tracker and the math point at.
This literally needs a new term, here it is:
>"Kayfabe Numbers".
>Or K-Numbers.
Lemme check Kson. brb.

>>86544922
it's not anchored to news, retardchama.

>>86546986
Again, subathons work by having fans give a lot of gift subs to non fans. Some non-fans do end up gifting too, but it's mostly just the fans. And in big subathons, you sew lopsided things like this. Add the Twitch sub bonus thing, and it adds up. What are you sperging out about?

>>86546986
I mean there's a reason why the only stat /lig/ tracks is live average CCV

>>86546694
>Nearly 64% of Zen's subs are gifted
This is not a rare occurrence. In fact it's very very common for a Twitch streamer to have more gifted subs than "natural" subs. That's just how Twitch is.

You don't see this on YouTube because membership gifting is like six months old or some shit, there's no culture around it.
Gifting subs is several years older than bits, which means for a long time it was the primary means to send additional support to your streamer on-site. This developed a culture around gifting that keeps it the primary method despite bits technically giving the streamer a higher payout.

>>86546986
Take your fucking meds and stop opening /#/

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>>86546986
>>86547077
Let's not...
Done for today.

>>86546418
You're just coping. VShojo has become a corpo now, with managers which can boss around talents. And if it wasn't Froot who wanted it gone, who was it?

>>86546694
Again, you mentioned Twitch gifted a lot of subs to Mouse, but where is a list of people who gifted to her? I think this information can help with getting a better idea of who props of Twitch VTubers.

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>>86547717
I don't know if there's a service that tracks the chat for the subs announcements and saves the names, but Ironmouse has enabled the native weekly leaderboard, so you have that.

>>86547499
Management told her to take it down because they knew--just as /vsj+/ did the moment it went up ( >>85757974 )--that people would read it the wrong way and kick up a shitstorm.

And guess what happened.
There's a reason no VSJ talent directly addresses rrats about them.
It was a bad idea so management tard wrangled, which is what they're paid to do.

>>86547050
its not anchored to rrat either, which it should be fool

>>86440062
>Takamiya Rion clarifies in a stream that she does not sign all of the signatures on her merch.
Is this a big deal? I feel like it should be but I'm not in the least shocked that vtubers don't do it.

>>86548374
read what the kuro anchor says, it implies rrat but it doesn't imply niji news. it shouldn't, every corpo is black, after all.

>>86548487
Auto-signers are a thing but VTubers usually sign things manually in many cases. Rion unfortunately said something really bad, she only signs like 4-5 things, meanwhile Aqua was literally still signing everything that had to be signed before she can actually just fully be truly out of Hololive. Which means that out of a thousand signed merch, only 5 are signed, and those most likely are for staff/upper management. Which means everyone else got fucked and at the same time got confirmation that holofans are lucky because COVER actually has talents sign up stuff.

>>86548487
What could be a bigger deal is her saying:
>We joked that you can't even tell who's actually signing them...
>And maybe get a part-timer to write it for her
>"Wait, are you seriously writing it yourself?"
She says, "we joked that...", but that's not a reassuring thing to say to your audience.
>>86548660
Do they use auto-signers or just that they sign once, then it's just scanned and photocopied?

>>86548876
Unclear, a caligraphy anon could probably tell due to how the signature looks and the material that was used for it. It's really easy to tell when a human didn't do it apparently. Something about muscle twitches.

>>86546694
>>86546986
I think you're legitimately trying, but I also think the other anons are right and that you're chasing a sheet left out on the laundry line and claiming there's a ghost.
What you're describing is normal Twitch behavior, and the source you're using to check is of dubious quality. Numbers-chasing is a dangerous art that /#/ fucks up all the time. I'd suggest at least getting a second (and preferably a third) independent source to corroborate your claims, because in context nothing is overly suspicious.

>>86548580
Redditor

>>86548988
Knowing this, it would be nice to try to collect a sample of NijiJP autographed merch to compare. Actually, for a photocopy vs. auto-signer you tell with just one copy and a loop, I just sat through a three-hour lecture last night (during Ame's grad stream...) about the fine technicalities of color and other printing. The cheaper they are about it, the easier it will be to tell.

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>Come into the /news/ thread expecting news
>Holo tribalfaggotry and /#/ schizo conspiracies and seethe

>>86553290
>Come into the /news/ thread expecting news
>vshojocucks ruin the thread by being monkey numbers

>>86487204
I was being sarcastic

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>>86545754
>As of the writing of this post, Ironmouse's subs are nearly 92% gift subs, 92 fucking percent.
lmao later the cucks tell you that she is the number one "vtuber"

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>>86440084
Reiki Nyobo of Anilive's Jumpstart program announces her graduation, effective today (Oct 1st).
https://x.com/NyoboReiki/status/1841122488882794565

>>86553290
just click hide.
99% of the conversation gone.

>>86548177
That doesn't sound like TALENT FREEDOM to me

>>86466166
>until we meet again
I feel bad for Teamates and this bitch giving them false hope

>>86555853
>99% of the conversation gone.
they still bump the thread way too fast.

>>86541450
>shitstirrer
Documenting stuff is stirring shit holodrone?

>>86556284
>>86555853
This is not your safe space, faggots.

oh, I know who this is. Not the first time he's done this.

>>86555933
>hire someone to be the brains for you
>they do exactly that
>b-b-b-b-but my FREEDOM!!!!
Do you enjoy being stupid?

>>86557924
Funny how they never "ADVISED" Vei about not talking shit about Holo, especially when you're scheduled to collab with one of their talent.
Or how they never "TOLD" Zen against stoking up the flamewar about the ol' Vshojo audition topic.

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>>86557384
>muh safe space
get bricked retard
>>86440193

>>86557600
literally rent free

>>86558411
Cringe

>>86558173
>they didn't stop them from doing things I personally dislike, therefore!
Meds

>>86558173
Yes, because that example you gave does not have a negative impact on the company.

>>86440084
Some /lig/ related news items:

>Dragon Vtuber Vienna posted that she was hospitalized while traveling in Germany due to a heart condition, she seems to be doing well enough that she will be coming home soon
https://x.com/viennavtuber/status/1841134524974920036
>3am member and Cavewoman Vtuber Meat informed everyone that she is without power due to the hurricane and may be out until friday. This marks the first time in two years she had to cancel her regularly scheduled streams
https://x.com/meatscave/status/1840814921589932508
>Kiki of /pyon/ fame has been hospitalized due to an eating related illness (lack of eating, it seems)
https://x.com/bunnyonvt/status/1841133162568827323

>>86558929
And Kson old tweet somehow does?
Or did you meant to say
>Froot
instead of company there?

>>86559095
yes to both questions

>>86558173
The Vei thing happened before she joined VShojo
The Zen tweet was later deleted lmao

>>86559029
This is because we need corporations, someone has to stop these women from killing themselves with their stupidity.

>>86561111
Sure, but doubling down on it when you're scheduled to collab with Kiara in 5 days?

>>86562753
sorry wrong thread

>>86561445
She didn't? You've been looking at way too many catalog rrats anon. People dug up the clip and spread it around when she was going to collab with Kiara. It was an old clip in a model that like 3 models before the one she debuted in VShojo under. She didn't talk about it at all in the leadup before canceling.

>>86564033
>She didn't talk about it at all in the leadup before canceling
Vshojo anon, your reps...

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>>86564085
I was here anon. If you're going to make stuff up you're going to have to provide some proof. The model she was using at the time was the pink sweater, which was her original 3D model. She later debuted the demon schoolgirl, and then the catgirl maid. When she joined VShojo it was with her first 2D model, the succubus maid.

>>86564233
I'm not talking about the impetus, I'm talking about how Vei doubled down on it when some people vt trolls mostly were forwarding that clip to Kiara and Cover.
She literally said to get over it and how she's not sorry at all about it.

This thread really is just an extension of /#/

>>86564501
>zero homo mention so far
What are you talking about, as far as I'm concerned /news/ and /#/ are as diametrically opposed as possible.

>>86564644
Same retarded rrats

>>86564644
Did you miss the incredible spergout over Mouse's subathon straight out of # earlier

>>86564501
We know what the problem is since it started, which is people coming in left and right posting and not merely commenting on the news but wanting to spin, rewrite and non-neutrally push a position on the news via posting here. I wish the thread etiquette in the OP was more respected but at this point, without an intervention from the mods, the only thing holding up the quality are the people who created and running the general are still here in the first place.

>>86548374
It's not really a rrat, given it has a link to her actually saying it, though it's not really news worthy either. It is kuro though, so it's linked appropriately IMO.

>>86542735
I wanna give Enna and the rest of the girls the benefit of the doubt, and say they are simply in denial that their company tried to cover up a suicide and then repeatedly attacked the victim. I also realize the brainwashing in this sort of cultish organization is strong, but part of me can't help but wonder if they fully realize it, and simply don't care.

As a Mating Press editorial once pointed out, evil is hot for a lot of folk, so maybe that very thought is what's keeping the remainder hanging on.

>>86564501
Rent free

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>>86565021
>Rent free

>>86564870
>>86564800
Anontachi, your sarcasm detector...

probably coordinated imo ; we almost never get mentions of /#/ here (despite having a lot of numbers, not a lot of /#/). Probably VShojo fans upset over the whole Froot situation. should be gone by next thread

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I don't care which side any of you are on, if you refuse to abide by the customs of /news/ then GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE.

>>86566316
># deflecting
Classic

>>86569999
You're not fooling anyone, vshojocuck.

>>86548580
Despite what the kuro anchor says, all niji related issues goes into kuro

>>86564358
And the collab never happened.

>>86564501
Always has been

>>86564911
>intervention from the mods
Heh, good fuckin' luck

>>86564911
If it hurts you that much you're always free to start a discord or something where you can ban whoever you don't like

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>>86440084
Kuro redebuted today, effectively killing off his old model and swapping it for a new, pirate-themed one. He describes it as a "soft reboot" which also includes completely reorganizing his YT presence into six separate, categorized channels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsG53AIcizM

Mouse just debuted her new witch model
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2264882533?t=12h07m33s

>>86573310
>six different yt channels
sounds like a terrible idea

>>86573310
I only see 4? And the 4 make sense though they're a bit granular. Main, VODs, Clips, and an IRL.

>>86573679
It is

>>86573679
Supposedly it should be better if done right, but at the same time managing multiple channels is never not a headache.

>>86573881
He also has Kuro+ for non-horror games (horror games is now the focus of the main channel) and one dedicated to Pokémon content. Linked in his about section.

>>86574097
It's only really better if you put out enough content to consistently put up content on all six channels that are distinctly different from each other. If your content is just slightly different or you aren't that productive it doesn't work out very well

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>>86440084
Grimmi debuts a new outfit
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2265470326

>>86440084
update to >>86518017
Brave Group has english article on their management restructure and video interview with the directors
https://bravegroup.co.jp/en/news/7749/
https://youtu.be/ZKl8AMZlL4A

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>>86580515
Went to check it myself, and the file's URL now directs to picrel.

>>86581785
You can look up the address in the archives if you want to know the contents, there are like multiple transcripts of it

>>86580515
Why is this deleted?

>>86553290
That's basically every thread at this point.

>>86582280
Doxfags

>>86582280
We have a vshojo mod on the board who uses "dox" as an excuse to delete stuff he doesn't like

>>86582919
sir could you read >>1 for me please

>>86583116
Posting about vshojo sending out legal takedowns on behalf of ironmouse is not real life

>>86583176
and what did the picture you posted have?

>>86583267
A legal notice from vshojo

>>86583306
stop being obtuse, you know what was in that picture

>>86440084
This is definitely VTuber-related news: A rights-management company, directed by VShojo, on behalf of Ironmouse, sent a DMCA notification to Catbox in relation to a video (formally) hosted on that Web-site: https://catbox.moe/transparency/dmca/MUSO%20TNT/2024-07-11-DMCA-Takedown-Notice-on-behalf-of-VShojo.txt

>>86577548
>>86580515
I typed up a protracted and articulate reply to politely tell that mod to fuck himself before noticing you left the twitter comment from some mouthbreather in the crop.
Yeah, no shit mods are on your ass.

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>>86583574
>>86583574
>>86440084
Oh right. Sure, fine, let's see how long this will last.
Ironmouse copystrikes catbox over a certain clip

>>86440084
FWMC show off home 3D; Ollie announces concert, new 3D outfit; Kiara announces 4th ann. live. (first two announcements were on steam, last was twitter:

>>86583397
Goodness. Anyone have another copy?

Given the breadcrumb trail and the historical pattern of previous streamer cliques of similar size and influence, there's a huge chance ironmouse and the vshojo clique really are huge sacks of shit with a ton of skeletons in their closets. Like I wouldn't bet my life on it, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if it turned out that way, either.

However because the only people calling it out are schizo holotribals and /#/ pagpags that discredit themselves the second they open their mouths, there is zero chance anybody is ever going to actually pay attention to it, nevermind bring it to light with investigative journalism. Nice going, retards.

>>86583930
By the way, Catbox, if you’re reading this (you’re not), this isn’t a valid DMCA notice. Under 17 U.S.C. 512(c)(3)(A)(ii), a DMCA notification must include “Identification of the copyrighted work claimed to have been infringed,” which this notification does not include.

>>86522808
This statement doesn't seem to actually declare the talents terminated.
It just says that their contracts are up in March of 2025...which is honestly a baffling thing to just post out of the blue, but sure.

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>>86440084
Shondo does an interview with bounding comics exposing on twitch's unfair and biased moderation system
https://x.com/BoundingComics/status/1841315003397505487

>>86583930
was it some doxshit?

>>86587770
Yes. VShojo antis keep spamming the board with it and then getting mad when posts about it get deleted

>>86587896
I thought it was a joke not meant to be taken seriously, but if the mods are deleting it, I guess it must be real. Who knew.

>>86587961
Why would you ever assume anyone on /vt/ is operating on good faith when the subject is VShojo.

>>86587770
No it's a clip from a stream of hers back in 2017 that the mods retroactively declared to be doxshit because it makes her look bad

>>86588057
No, it's doxshit, now stop seething and shitting up /news/

>>86588222
>things ironmouse says on stream is doxshit
Lol
Lmao

>>86588249
Digging up information that is specifically and intentionally hidden to protect her privacy is doxshit, yes.

>>86588291
If she said it on stream as ironmouse it's not doxshit, anymore than talking about nerissa's brother is

>>86588338
You need to stop

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Here's the round-up for today.

HoloPro
>Amelia Watson hosts her last stream for the forseeable future. While she states that she will appear in a couple of projects in October, little is known about her future involvement with Hololive.
>As part of her departure, Amelia Watson releases a merch set titled "Immortalized as Marketable Plushies Together 4EVER".
>The Holo Aquarium, the VR Chat world where Ame held one of her final streams, is now available for the public.
>HoloMEET will appear at Anime Festival Asia.
>Promise is added to the HoloMini lineup.
>Inugami Korone celebrates her birthday with a new outfit, as well as a new song, "Mad POPCORN World!".
>The Amelia Watson and Gawr Gura youtooz figures are now available for pre-order.
>Honda Indonesia collaborates with Kobo Kanaeru to promote a special verssion of the BeAT Deluxe Smart Key scooter.
>Kureiji Ollie announces a 3D Concert with guests, as well as a new 3D Outfit that will debut during the concert.
>FuwaMoco debut their Home 3D.
>Takanashi Kiara announces her 4th Anniversary Live.

VShojo
>As part of a subathon explicitly engineered to do so, Ironmouse reaches over 307k subscribers on Twitch, beating out the previous all-time subscriber record of 306k.
>K9Kuro redebuts with a "soft reboot" of his vtuber persona, adopting a pirate-themed persona. As part of this redebut, he reorganizes his Youtube content into 6 different channels.
>Ironmouse debuts a new witch model.
>MUSO TNT Ltd, a content control firm acting on behalf of VShojo, issues a DMCA takedown notice against a clip of Ironmouse posted on Catbox. At time of writing, the clip has been blocked, with Catbox redirecting the URL to a notice of the clip's DMCA takedown request. Readers are advised to exercise caution when discussing the contents of the clip.

Other Corpos
>RIOT Music of Brave Group announces a new CEO and Directors. As part of this, Brave Group issues a statement in both English and Japanese detailing the restructuring of management.
>Re.aLIVE issues a statement stating that the management contracts for 3 of their talents will expire in March 2025: Kirima Mieru, Kanzaki Ouka, and Tozaeru D. Grandma.
>Palette Project announces a 3D Debut Showcase of the core 7 members, starting on 10/16.
>NEXAS issues a statement thanking Rima Evenstar, vtuber best known for her coverage of industry drama, for the "insightful lecture" she gave to NEXAS talents on "How to Stay Out of Drama". Readers are advised that this story is not fabricated in any way.
>Reiki Nyobo of the AniLive Jumpstart program announces her graduation, effective 10/1.

Indies
>Musube Yui, a JP indie of note, announces she will be on indefinite hiatus as of 11/2.
>As part of her birthday celebration, Wisps surprise Mint Fantôme with a billboard advertisement in Akiba.
>Strawb announces a makeship campaign for a Halloween-themed plush.
>Vienna, dragon girl, announces that she was hospitalized while on a trip to Germany. She is recovering and expected to return home soon.
>Meat of 3am announces that she is without power due to Hurricane Helene, and will likely not be able to stream until 10/4, marking the first time in two years she has cancelled a routine stream.
>Kiki Pyon, local retro rabbit, is hospitalized due to an illness related to her recent medical difficulty eating. She will continue to update on social media and upload videos to her channel while undergoing treatment, but will not stream until at least 10/5.
>Grimmi, spooky girl with a silly zone, debuts a new outfit.
>FallenShadow, better known as "Shondo", is interviewed by Bounding Into Comics regarding Twitch's selective and inconsistent moderation, and moderation bias against vtubers on the platform.

Other
>ChumuNote, a vtuber and writer for vtuber style in Japan, signs a management contract with Remedy & Company, a JP firm dedicated to health tech.

Corrections
>Previous reporting mistakenly referred to services provided by V-Square as "a supernatural digital playground". It is, unfortunately, a digital playground well-grounded in reality.
>Previous reporting mistakenly referred to the VGTC Continential Block as the "Continental Blooo". The editor apologizes for editing while half-asleep, and promises that if it happens again, it will be much funnier.

>>86588377
Oh I'm sorry am I making you uncomfortable?

>>86588515
No, you're shitting up the thread.

If you need to seethe this much, take it to the catalog.

>>86588667
Yeah you'd like that wouldn't you cuckmouse

>>86588466
Is this really what you're going with

>>86588466
Thank you smol Amelia o7

>>86588667
>shitting up a general for shit no one cares about

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>>86440084
>>86440129
Ah, damn, I missed the roundup. Oh well.
News from /warkop/
>>86436329
>>86589010
>>86589252
And these are for the Economics Anchor
>>86589048
>>86589184

>>86588466
>>86589396
*thumbs up* good job.

>>86440084
>>86589396
A last minute addition from /warkop/
>>86590145

>>86440062
>>Octavio, Hakka, and Rio will appear at Anime Impulse BA.
fucking who? there are no hololive members with those names

I should be available to bake a new thread.

>>86589396
>>86590341
Thanks, I'm adding those to the OP.

>>86590473
They're from holostars.

>>86590639
Much appreciated baker anon, I guess i'll post my Wednesday stock report when it's up.

>>86590639
Thank you, baker Anon

>>86590639
why post anything about holostars that isn't a celebratory obituary?

>>86591015
Because this is /news/, and your personal hang-ups don't matter

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>>86440084
Mori announces a new myth cover coming out this month

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>>86440084
>>86592262
And also a new HoloEN group song

>>86440084
>>86592293
And a 7 days to die server opening during the middle of the week

>>86440084
Park Dona of LUVDia, a KR corpo, announces that her contract with the company will be terminated on 10/10. She will continue on as an indie.
https://x.com/parkdonakr/status/1841358777116983433