>mogs practically every other corpo tuber>didn't even debut yet How does she do it?
>>86794487I heard this back in 2021 when kson fucked off and now she can't even mog Ollie.Be careful.
>>86794487I can't wait to watch her actually stream because she isn't busy learning to dance and sing for 35 hours a week
>>86794538yes anon I'm sure that's what got her on the neverending burnout cycle
>>86794538>I can't wait to watch her actually streamI have a feeling you'll still be waiting once she gets bored of this too.
>>86794532She never left! You did chud!Now give her money to fleshpost and cameo in nukuza slop
>>86794532There's never going to be an EN ex-corpo who falls off as hard as kson. Westerners just don't have corpo loyalty like that.
>>86794538lol, you think that it wasn't her own awful work ethic that prevented her from streaming. I'll love to hear your excuses as to why her streams slow down to a trickle after maybe a month.
Someone make a bingo card for what happens on her “debut”.
>>86794671let them have a dream.
>>86794487two weeks from now it turns out she's doing the same shit she did back in holo just lower effort and without people you like or cared about her. She would have a better chance between Tempiss debuts and Advent when tourists were bored and there was little else going to steal all the attention.
>>86794487Anon this is basically a stealth launch. Fucking nobody knows about this outside of /here/ and a few dedicated teammates. She's not advertising or anything, and everything is as vague as possible. She's gonna develop a smallish but dedicated following consisting of the more committed gators, probably 4view, but don't expect 5view status or anything unless she starts going as hard on the meta strats as Mouse.
>>86794663Based on her income it seems she only lost the freeloaders and kept the pay pigs
>>86794671she was first in Myth too burn out like few months in already first half of 2021 and never really recovered
>>86794671If it was just one person in EN that did this it would be believable but a good quarter of EN are "burnt out" to varying degrees.
>>86794809Sleeping on stream and collabing with Hasan kiker?
>>86794809>starts going as hard on the meta strats as Mouse.E-begging and sleeping?
>>86794889>Gura>Ame>Mumei And the last one is debatable.
>>86794532Fpbp
>>86794891Unironically yes. That and react content spam + massive collab spam with larger creators until you catch up. It's garbage and degenerate, but that's what the normies want for whatever reason.
>>86794855I feel like "first to burn out in Myth" kinda demonstrates a problem with Hololive's whole business model. Taking these live streamers and expecting them to do a bunch of idol shit and fly to Japan for this and that is literally incompatible with keeping up a legit streaming schedule. I feel like them shifting focus to more events and idol stuff really knocked some people who just wanted streams (like me) off the train.
>>86794487im only excited to see how different she is without Blue Dorito filtering her.
>>86794532
>>86794985Mori, Kiara and Ina can do it because they aren't lazy.
>>86794891>>86794970>ame/dooby caring about what’s “meta”lol
>>86794970Doing all of that to reach a 8/9k average barely is grim af when you can just archive that with 3 months of Holo.
>>86795102But you keep all of your income, play any games you want, and aren't expected to half ass concerts constantly.
>>86795102>archive Only Fauna has good ccv these days in EN
>>86795146Collabing with Hassan is worse than that.>>86795163Is she?
>>86794889Face it, she aint burnt out she is just fucking lazy.She barely takes part in big events and have about 0 big projects and songs going.Every time she attempted a sort of News-show she did 3-4 episodes until she gave up and memory-holed itWhat exactly is burning her out then??
>>86794985Anon the other 3 myth girls are doing fine, hell , Kiara and Ina do more events than Ame ever did and still streamed more than her, Gura and Her are just lazy
>>86795102Yeah, but you don't have perms and miles of paperwork draining your soul. You can actually play shit like mods or romhacks without worrying about your job. >>86795146I doubt she cared about the concerts, and she definitely won't earn as much as she did in holo.
>>86795102It's almost as though Ironmouse doesn't actually follow these meta strats that people think she's doing. The majority of her content is playing FOTM with her 3view friends.
>>86794985stfu dramatourist nobody was going to Japan in 2021 why do you think Ame decided to build her own studio to organize 3D debuts for Myth? Japan was closed for a long time and organizing tech projects like that was her way of fighting burnout I guess long before holo EN was properly involved in the idol side.
>>86795215You don't have to collab with anyone you don't want to as an indie, she can pick and choose.
>>86795215Hella botted
>>86795257Yeah, she will never hit big though which was my point. Then again if she wanted that she would remain a Holo.
>>86795257>she can pick and choose.until it becomes a means of survival to stay afloat
>>86795240>Yeah, but you don't have perms and miles of paperwork draining your soul.i think that is the manager job
>>86795295Making Hololive merch money without having to actually deal with Hololive's fans seems like a win win to me...
>>86795163Anon we are on day 3 of multiple natty 10k+ streams, Fauna streamed the other day and she didnt even crack the top 3
>>86794663She is a mainly JP streamer, dumbfuck
>>86794891>hasanThank god doob is a libertarian/centrist then, she will stay far away from that roach
>>86795347Reading comprehension reps.
Hasn't even debuted and you niggas are already crying about her content
>>86795326>NattyOkay bud. Graph shows the same shenanigans as always
>>86795320That works because of Gura and Mori. Myth group merch will carry her.
>>86795315You'd think that, but apparently they're constantly swamped with it themselves and have to constantly apply for their own perms weeks in advance.Here's an example from stars, who no matter what your feelings on them are, have roughly the same management as the girls.
>>86794532Wait Ollie inclined hard?Or did Kson become a 3 view?
>>86795347Kson defence force found their way into this thread I see
>>86795215those streams were botted. ina normally gets 7-8k at best.
>>86795102She only reaches that average because she’s the raid baby of twitch. If she wasn’t, she’d be more of a 4-5k streamer.
>>86795277hella cope.
>>86795453>>86795424Nigga you are desperate because you get laughed off /#/every time you try this shit.
>>86795453show graph.
I hope she's just a sproing rat, would be the funniest shit ever
>>86795443Jesus christ can Holo not get blanket perms that last for weeks/months for this shit?
>>86795443>have roughly the same management as the girls.havent it been confirmed that Stars and Kronii have like 0 pull from management and gets low prio kek?
>>86795424The only botted stream was Raora yesterday, for obvious reasons
>>86795567>for obvious reasonsqrd?
>>86795445Kson 3view
>>86795567>for obvious reasonsI don't think catalog tards know the ennacuck lore anon
>>86795549Having to get perms at all would make me wanna leave if I knew I could remain very successful on my own. I can't even imagine not being able to play with community fixes and mods for several of my favorite games.
>>86795590Guys who hates Irys and Fauna cant stand seeing them at the top of the EN rankings, so everytime one of them does he bots Biboo (and now Raora) to stop them from getting 1st place, pretty retarded stuff
>>86795163Alright, let's see what their numbers were this past week.Oh that's way more than ironlung.
>>86795443The Girls talked about it often and open. Mumei was pissed that Civ streams need for every stream a new perm and the slot couldn't be changed. It was too taxing on her.
>>86795590A retard from /#/ hates when Irys wins one of their autistic tallies. You can archive search their thread yesterday and see the retard literally announcing his target.
>>86795620I wish I didnt either desu
>>86795673>youtube numbers
>>86795215This was Ina 2 weeks ago. She averaged 5k in July and August. She does fine but I don't think she's a high CCV streamer.
>>86795549probably a promotion deal where they negotiated to get paid to stream on a specific date
>>86794532>JPNeed not apply.
>>86795707>multi pov streams with the entire fucking box>the only stream who is not that or a buff is a kusoge where she hit 8k which is pretty goodYou are so fucking retarded.
>>86795673>Oh that's way more than ironlung.Sure about that?
>>867957072 of those where events with massive overlap retardchama, the only one there thats a normal stream is the Tako Koko one
>>86795704>twitch numbers
>>86795781Now show her non E-beg subaothon month numbers.
>>86795781>Using subathon numbers where she was getting a million raids per secondRoru, rumao
>>86795804youtube has raids too newfagchama
>>86795781Can't even beat the Kiara karaoke.Jesus that's grim.
>>86794532friendly reminder that the blue dorito is all the fandom cares about
>>86795804>>86795812>>86795854H-how can we cope this time holosisters
>>86795812They're also higher than Nerissa then.IDK what's so hard to grasp here. IM has med-high numbers compared to EN. Though they're on Twitch which counts people that wouldn't count on Youtube.
>>86795949Holy shit, I just remember the existence of Sara. I hope she's okay and still streaming.
>>86795558Kronii asks for her weird kroniicore indie games perms, and the devs don't check their emails or those emails go directly to the spam box, that's why her perms fail a lot, she has been getting a lot of indie dev contacts, so it seems that she's fixing that problem by herself. Some of them get a lot of perms by making their managers ask the big companies that will accept 99% of the time, for example IRyS got perms for mass effect, a lot of COD games, volcano princess, that backrooms multiplayer game. And stars I don't have idea
Ens numbers btw
>>86795949so? and charlie got bottet to 360k on Twitch. Sometimes the botter puts a zero too much in it.
>>86796143>Avarage ccv 107728Vshojo is finished. Yagoo I kneel.
I like how this thread just turned into /noombers/.All of you should nuke yourselves.
>>86796221/#/ can't help themselves when one willingly leaves the walled garden.
>>86796156speed got botted to a million
>>86796143You and ennacuck >>86795949 need to make your own thread and stop hijacking this bait thread, no one give a shit about your retarded ass problem.
>>86796286>Please stop derailing my shilling and bait thread!Nah
>>86795804hey since you track every raid that vtubers get can you tell me who raided this bijou stream? must have been someone really popular.
>>86796143>ENreco month>HoloGTA monthBig box views but low averages this is like saying Mouse subathon are her regu- nevermind you did that>>86796221The dude got bullied out of numbers. He does this shit sometimes.
>>86796286I'm just posting relevant numbers why are you getting upset?
>>86796325Sure.
>>86796313>>86796358Look at what you do now, fucking ennacuck gonna derailed this thread >>86796325
>>86796433i have never watched enna
>>86796507Yeah ennacuck don't watch enna that much nowadays because of shit numbers, gaslight himself into liking IronMouse.
>>86796507nobody does lmfao
>>86796433>People give more of a shit about number wars than AmeGrim
>>86796546>nowadaysdo you know what never means
>>86796578Nobody interested in Ame posts in the catalog anon.
>>86796433Then let him fucking do it, this thread's subject is so utter shit that it was derailed in little more than a minute. Did you know that this thread is supposed to be about Dooby? I never knew that.
>>86794532Dooby isn't naive to the indie scene and knows it will be a much harsher environment than Hololive. There will be a debuff from going indie along with another debuff from switching to Twitch. Unicorns are going to shitpost no matter what but a 4view is extremely good for an indie vtuber.
>>86796629Nobody gives a shit about dooby.
>numbercucks seething already>not even debuted yet
now even catalog fags know you are a pants-shitting retard
>>86796629>Did you know that this thread is supposed to be about Dooby?Yes, it's in the picture.You can always come to the real Dooby thread >>86729180
>>86796767Grim that thread flopped so fucking hard. Awat had 3 rebakes already...
>>86796796Awat is the real thread. Dooby is to catch catalog and the bad kind of ligniggers
>>86796838I hope you enjoy her future collabs with liggers.
>>86796433
>>86794487her situation is more a curiosity than anything really, people hyping her up as if she's gonna stream 24/7 and be a powerhouse don't fucking know who they're dealing with and are more of wanting to welcome her because they think it damages hololive than because of anything she actually does herself. they're going to be so disappointed.it's very easy to tell when she's bored of something and that naturally makes the stream boring/sad to watch. she's very low energy generally, was never much of a hype streamer and had seemed bored of most things in holo past the first couple months minus the special event/holiday streams etc. also has a tendency to get pissy and ragequit like a little bitch and/or cancel on streams all the time. there isn't a lot more she can do as an indie that she literally-couldn't as a holo, honestly. if she makes a buff doob or bee doob or whatever and does streams with it, whoop de doo. the reactions to things like buffson or armando were that it's amusing but it's not like a world-defining gimmick, it isn't gonna revitalize her career to have some gimmicks back.
>>86796796Tourists have no passion.
>>86797036Sounds like they are pretty based. Have fun in your flop necro bumped thread.
>>86794985You know that Ame barely did any singing and dancing and going to Japan right? She's was just a lazy fuck who didn't want to stream
>>86797036>All fake fans. It's sad, really.Daily reminder that you're not entitled to views or fans their money and people WILL fuck off if you displease them.
>the gators in awat are super mentally ill>>86797084>proves itlol
>>86797130So explain why she suddenly wants to stream the moment she leaves hololive?
>>86797175>necro bumps a thread nobody wants to useSounds like you are the schizo bro
>>86796838I remember that cope when /doki/ split from /haha/ Don't worry. They'll rejoin soon.
>>86797178I remember when you fags said she wouldn't drop the news show.Even her own chat and Kiara knew she'd drop it. The only people that still have faith in her ability not to drop shit are the 5 ride or die simps squatting her general.
>>86797170nta but this, the chuubas seem to forget fans are there out of adoration and not obligation. if you become a not so adorable person, the audience just stops caring. the irony is so many vtubers want to be "real" or their "real" selves when the thing is, most people irl are tolerable, nice-enough, rational enough but this makes them... boring. the rational, carefully controlled, talking-to-public self tends to be boring. these girls don't wanna admit that the real you generally just kind of sucks and isn't that fucking interesting to listen to or talk with and it's more engaging to talk with some wacky flanderized online personality like haachama or pekora. obviously pekora doesn't just go around peko-peko'ing at random people outside and shouting at the clerk at the convenience store over nothing etc (.. or does she), she's probably very nondescript and polite like 99% of japanese are. but the thing is, we don't fucking WANT that vs the funny wacky pekora we know. this is also what kson doesn't fucking understand and I dunno if ame will understand either.
>>86797241You have no idea what you are talking about /awat/ is gonna change its name to /ame+dooby/ or some shit like that on the 20th already decided everything on the day after the announcement. The other thread is what I said.
>>86797208Not my thread buddy.Improve yourself.
>>86797410You are in 3 it might as well be :')
>>86796567Ennaschizo does.
>>86794743tech issues should be a free space
>>86797467>genuine schizophreniaNice.
>>86795549I imagine western publishers actually get pissed that Cover makes them do stupid shit like this and intentionally makes it hard on them with stipulations like "you must tell us exactly on which day and which hour and how long you're going to play our game at least 2 weeks ahead of time for each session" and that's when they do respond. One of the biggest reasons for no perms is that publisher doesn't bother responding to their emails.
>all of this doob seethe alreadyuhhhh i thought holobronies were better than nijisisters
>>86797696All the same complaints as when she was still under Ame, but I don’t see you calling them out.
>>86797696>becomes holo affiliate instead of full time member>instantly get shat on by all holoniggersWho would've guessed. Their interest is in the blue dorito and not on the girls. Truly pathetic behavior.
>>86797780You should read the post above you before sperging out, hope nothing but the best for Ame tho.
>>86797170That bitch lives rent free in your head
>>86797178grass is always greener syndromeshe doesn't have to be ame, doesn't have to follow hololive's rules
>>86797178It's classic Ame. She gets excited for something new for the first few times she does it and then gets bored and abandons the project.She'll go back to being a react streamer within a month.
>>86797974Improve. Yourself!
>>86797944I wonder if the affiliate thing is there in case she changes her mind and realizes how good she had it and gets tired of twitch vtuber meta shit, since at least one neuron in her head somewhere must be screaming it's a massive downgrade and she'll never ever ever ever have it that good again when she's out, not if she cares about streaming at least. with sana leaving it made sense that it's because she just didn't wanna stream at all period, but with ame, if she wants to be a vtuber she's already in the most coveted spot in the planet as one of the most coveted members. I wouldn't even call it grass is greener vs spoiled brat who forgot how hard things were before.
>>86794487>No more meetings>No more travelling>No more forced socializingshe's winning
>>86794970React content is so ridiculously effective it's crazy.I've seen dozens of nobody vtubers that started streaming like a month ago but that have already amassed an insane amount of followers just reacting to shit like ShoeOnHead's videos for example. This is like the laziest and sloppiest of slops kind of content but people absolutely love it.
>>86798242lazy whores. they should be doing hard work like playing a videogame.
>>86798242People love having their opinions reinforced, my feed started getting flooded with a ton of new girls reacting to her vids and other culture war shit ever since smugalana and kirsche took off.
>>86797974Rent free lol
>>86798895Hololive is healing
>>86797036Seethe ligger /awat/ is the real thread and your dead splinter thread will cease to exist on the 20th
>>86797178she's been holding in the "N" word for 4 years and is finally ready to drop it
>literal who fleshieOff topic much?
>>86798926https://warosu.org/vt/image/yBZ0ceWIIDD6E4FDn+0D0AImprove yourself unironically
>>86799070Seethe about about it. She was forgotten before she even left.
>>86799084The only one seething is you lol
>>86796682Omg not le evil unicorns!!
>>86799236>the only people shitting on her are now complaining when called outwhat do you call this mental illness?
>>86794487>bitch hasn't cared about her fans for the past 2 years>invents a new method for graduation to keep milking Holo merch money>for some retarded reason people are excited to see her go back to being indieI don't get it
>BIG>PROJECTS>SOON (TM) (R)
>>86794817>>86794663>the freeloadersThe cycle is always the same, indies like Filian are making more than corpos who stream full time like Ironmouse or Analsister or Fauna because the bulk of holofags are just underage cancer from third world countries and *eddit who immediately vanish when the blue dorito, yellow whore mark or other sign of the devil is gone.
>>86796156people were just really interested in nine sols on that specific day anon
>>86799743Filian's been very upfront about how she makes far less money than people think she does, and how it's certainly less than hololive.
>>86794487>31seconds
>>86799586>>for some retarded reason people are excited to see her go back to being indieThe doritofans are angry because she is not in doritoland.The "HER"fans are happy because they think it means this 2 streams a month bullshit will end and she'll go back to streaming 4-5 times a week.
>>86800089she’s sitting on a cool 15k subs while getting 5view streams regularly nownot gura money but she’s beating a lot of the holos
>>86799743>indies like Filian are making more than corpos who stream full time like Ironmouse or Analsister or FaunaIronmouse is similar to filian but just contracted to an agency with group branding, she owns her shit and takes 100% stream income. Fauna is a full corpo Vtuber owned by Cover who shares income with Cover.How new are you to think that Ironmouse and Fauna are the same and to think that Filian is the odd one out? Is the current /vt/ filled with 15yr olds now?
>>86794487I only care about hololive, no blue dorito = no watch
>>86800265Ask her about it then. She said herself that she doesn't make the same kind of money as corpos. She doesn't get the same kind of sponsorships or merch opportunities as they do, which is where the actual money comes in from. Filian in particular is in a dicey situation with merch because of the nendoroid thing.
>>86795443The perms are determined by the company they are asking for them from. If they don't ask for perms they will have vods removed because that's exactly what's happened several times now. Why do people think perms are the issue? Also they do not ask for perms themselves they have to go through a process. Initially they had to ask their manager for perms. Now it's a central system and online form where they put in their perms directly to the team who are requesting them. Fuck off back to phagget connect nigger.
>>86800433>If they don't ask for perms they will have vods removed because that's exactly what's happened several times now.Yes, but only if you're in a japanese corpo.Nobody gives a shit if you're a western independent.For example, Doki said that when she was at her previous job, she asked Humongous Entertainment for Freddi Fish perms, and they flat out denied her. And then she played it as an indie just fine, as it's transformative and falls under fair use laws of Canada/US. Shinri had to beg for weeks in advance to get perms for silent hill, and he got a grand total of three fucking days that could not be deviated from. Doki's probably gonna play it tomorrow.
>>86794532kson didn't do too much after she left and neither will dooby since she has likely entered ultra coast mode.I expect she'll show off some assets once a month or so and end up having to beg people to collab with her to get anyone watching.
>>86800548Fair use has not been tested. Falling under fair use means nothing because a company can still take you to court for it. Nintendo regularly removes western CCs vods all the fucking time. So do a lot of other Japanese companies. I don't give a fuck about shinri and you need TO WASH YOUR STINKING PUSSY BITCH.
>>86800393she's specified JP and Gura in the clip and that was a year agoshe's grown twice the viewership since then and gets bombarded with subs
>>86800393It doesn't matter what she say, we know for fact she has over 10k subscriptions and that is a fuck ton of money for a single month even if Twitch take 30%. Then you add the donations and bits and shit and Filian is easily making $10k+ per month.
>>86800344>Is the current /vt/ filled with 15yr olds now?Blame cover and Fuwamoco
>>86794487>3 comments, 108 likesWhat do you mean mogs? Mogs in what exactly?>>86794538>learning singingDude, did you even watch last karaoke stream? That's not how someone who would learn singing for 35h a week for 4 years sounds like.
>>86799743I highly doubt anybody's making more money than Ironmouse. She currently has over 300k+ subs and Vshojo's cut is minimal compared to Niji's or Cover's. She's easily within the million dollars between September and October.
>>86800655What? No it was in the sayu collab like 6 months ago.
>>86794985Hololive talents aren't just streamers, that's why they called talents. If you want dedicated streamers go watch livers or so small corpo
>>86800780she's paid out over 100k this year to her clipperssaying she hasn't seen a million doesn't mean that she doesn't have that money sitting in stones
>>86800867Yeah, of course. I'm just saying that she likely makes less than Fauna or Ironmouse. She's clearly well off right now regardless. Just even hosting that vtubing awards show last year proves that.
>>86797170>pic idlit schizo living rent free in the catalog. this is sad at this point. you posted this more times than you parents hugged you
Holo-zealots want to her to fail because it would go against their sect beliefs. You will never see an ex holo being openly loved if they ever went back to vtubing. Textbook cult behavior.
>>86800955no one makes more money than ironmousemulti-millionaire for sure
>>86794532you realize people that makes these threads are same shitters who are going to post a screenshot of her page with "omg omg omg look at this lemao xd lol" months later right
>>86800617>company will take a random indie to court because they streamed their game, for no reason You're not very bright, are you? That stuff doesn't happen retard.
>>86794985you were never a fan to begin with, nijisis
>>86794487>"mogs practically every other corpo tuber">*Tweet only has 3K likes*>"didn't even debut yet">Impossible to mog any vtuber when you have literally zero content>How does she do it?This most be an actual question, because the slop you posted is nonsensical trash
>>86801460>retarded anon can't interpret a thread and also can't read a screenshotInternet's finest.
>>86801520>interpret a thread>cant read a screenshotOne, do you seriously think any sane person would read through this garbage thread? And two, what's there to read in the screenshot? She has slop in the works? Wew! Go fuck yourself dipshit
>>86794487I unironically think the cute jerboa avatar is a solid 60% of the reason people know about her new channel. I wouldn't have bothered to even look it up if I didn't see that goofy little guy everywhere, didn't even know it was her I just wanted to see who the jerboa vtuber was. I will watch her just to see what the model looks like
>>86794970>normies>He thinks normal people use Twitch Most of people there are giant losers, you aren't appealing to normalfags, you are appealing to dramafag third worlders
>>86802344...Anon? Third worlders don't even use twitch. It's nearly all north america and europe.
Will her new model be cute and will she have a skirt to look up?
>>86802222>Wew! Go fuck yourself dipshit!
>>86802520>Le redditOP seething. Enjoy your "new" 3view indie shitter
>>86795354maybe she can join Destiny on Anything Else
>>86802647If you seriously think OP watched Ame and isn't just an anti, I got a bridge to sell ya.
Will Aqua be the only one to do this properly? With actual finality? She's like the only one, so I wish it happened more.
>>86800433>it's a central system and online form where they put in their perms directly to the team who are requesting them.And like any system with no direct human contact/supervision, it's shit. If I had a penny every time girls mentioned how they requested something, no perms, then she asked again, no perms, checked couple months later, no perms, then she asked the devs/company directly and wow, perms instantly! It was so easy! If only she did that 7 months ago, when she put in the request.
>>86802942>so I wish it happened more.And by this, I mean graduations should mean something. If it has to happen make it final.
>>86802960Isn't this the reason why managers hated Selen in Niji?She ended up being directly in contact with EA and the Apex developers because Niji management was too slow when it came to giving perms
>>86803027i think it is more like the manager didn't like that she was planning so many events, you know, giving them too much work to do as a manager, plus if I remember their manager was a new hire or something.
>>86800673No one is saying that she's not raking in cash tho?
>>86794487WHOOO?????
>>86794487Why is this lazy whore getting threads? She was afk for half of her "graduation" stream because she couldn't be bothered to prepare properly.
Still don't get what she gonna do now.Part of her charisma was the moegap of being a cunt and making these autistic sounds with one of the cutest models on Hololive.Now she is a literal mouse and her old green color scheme is ugly.I don't know, maybe she has a hidden super cute anime girl model. But i suspect she is gonna be like doki tomato, but without the anime girl, and in 3d.
>>86794891>kiker the roach can burn but you are the opposite of clever if you think that name makes sense
>>86795354I don't think she is I think she was just too much of a coward/woman to vote for the 2 big options in 2016
>>86794532Basically this.Why the fuck would Cover continue botting their numbers after they left the corpo?
>>86796682let´s see if she even can manage to be a 4viewher numbers except for after she announced her leave were shit already for a holoshe would need to retain at least 1/10th of her old viewerbase
>>86806825The sad thing is that the Sunny girl who left Niji had far more engagement on twitter after she left compared to Dooby who's been trying to shill hard ever since she announced graduation
>>86806675"Kson fell off because cover botted coco" is a level of cope I didn't even think was possible.
>>86806825depends on how the indies will interact with her
>>86794809You are underestimating how normie 4chan is now, the entire nijishitshow was on complete display 4chan simply got it a little early or cooked up schizorrats like the skinwalk accounts
>>86806825>she would need to retain at least 1/10th of her old viewerbaseKek she never got 10k after "improve yourself" unless she got raided or did a collab on her channel.She avaraged 3k before until she stopped streaming and got a small buff every time she returned after not streaming for weeks.
>>86796016she is still streaming. yakuza 0 atm i thinkshe also hit 25k
they are polar opposites>join Niji>low numbers no money>go indie>high numbers big money>join Holo>high numbers big money>go indie>low numbers no money
It's honestly hard for me to not feel a little resentful towards Holos who leave when I see how sad it makes all the other members I care about, I know it's schizo for me to feel this way but I can't help it
>>86807762dyrbi?
>>86808123It's natural human emotions. She made things worse for people you care about. She might have her reasons and they might be good reasons but that doesn't change your feelings which are just as real.
>>86807762>leave niji>big numbers more moneyAnon, quinn is a fucking shitter. And soon to be 2view kyrio cifer Hex haywire will join him too.
>>86806079Fine,she’s a centrist thenStill not a gommie
>>86810309k
>>86807762This only applies to women, btw. Even the ex-NijiID girls mogs her boyfriends on Twitch nowadays.
>>86794663Kson at least has recognition with Yakuza to cling to. Mikeneko on the other hand... reincarnating as a 2view is one hell of a fall.
>>86794532>>86801460>>86794487Ame doesn't care about "mogging" anyone. Never has. She left because she just wants to try doing her own thing. She's never given a shit about how many people are watching her. The irony is that it seems to be the first thing on everybody's minds here, but probably the last on hers.
>>86795257Only if you don't care about numbers.
>>86794663>westerners don't have corpo loyaltyyou gotta be real fucking retarded to believe this
>>86794487If she starts streaming regularly after leaving I might switch from supporter to hard anti, she leaves the company that made her big and tries to keep all the money for herself, she'll probably stream on the purple platform too.No one is loyal anymore, we live in sad times.
>>86801388If by court you mean YouTube yes. And they do take people to court all the time if they don't comply with cease and desist.
>>86817367>tries to keep all the money for herselfWhat an odd complaint. She would've kept the money for herself even if she had stayed.
>>86812534To be fair, she had pretty good viewership at firstm usually lower 4 view going up to the mids. But it kept falling with each incident and had a massive dip after the lawsuit.
>>86822378I'm talking about her current small corpo reincarnation. Streaming to sub 100 people from the height of Hololive's Rushia is a massive fall for her, the only reason she could do it is to try and escape the baggage tied to her name.
>>86794487I liked Ame and appreciate everything she did in Hololive and Im happy she has an opening to keep working with Cover from time to time. Some times you just feel stuck and need to change your environment and do new things, I hope she can find a new spark in this new project of hers and finds her own success (not just monetary but personal fulfillment), I will try to catch he streams, I hate twitch but it seems like she will multicast on YT
>>86794487No blue dorito brand no watch
>>86794532that's because kson does more e-girl irl streams than actual vtuber streamscompletely different
>>86795443>HD CollectionWhoever said homos get special treatment above the EN girls, what's the excuse this time?
>>86796143Fauna got that Pikmin boost where everybody needs to watch her so they can complain and get angry every time she wipes her "elite squad" to basic enemies.
>>86794487who?
>>86800393>sponsorships or merch opportunities as they do, which is where the actual money comes ino rly?
>>86794532This, she will be a 3view
>>86802389>Third worlders don't even use twitch.Tell that to all the brazilians and spics that are there.
>>86795071>>86795231Ina barely streams.This is the problem.Only Kiara and Mori seem to be able to keep up the pace.Mori becoming CEO is going to drive the company to be more Idol with a focus on concerts.
>>86807214Thats how it always it with nijisanji talents though? Just like Quinn Benet and his 50K like posts but sub 300 ccv?
>>86838294anon Ina is a professional illustrator, she has an excuse that everyone accepts, honestly hololive IS her side job (that she likes) . Her other one is what will keep her eating to retirement. That's why she's one of the least likely to graduate.
>>86794487>moglol
>>86802819i don't thibk she is going to touch politics with a 10 foot pole desu
>>86838294>Kiara and MoriKiara is former idol and is used to/likes that kind of thingMori is a performing artist and is used to/likes that kind of thingOut of all of Myth these two are the ones most suited to the idol shit
>>86795295What is there left for Ame to even hit? Subscriber count and 3D seems to be what she wants. Its not like she's interested in singing.
>>86795549Sadly you can blame Capcom for that.
>>86795707...Motherfucker?
>>86794487if by mog you mean kneel to, then yes
>>86795443Reminder that Kronii wanted to stream Elden Ring a bit after it had come out and before SotE. However since she had to get perms for weeks in advance and the guy was flatout ignoring her, she played it off stream instead.
>>86794532Kson went on too many breaks.
>>86794487what the fuck is your definition of mog? she's DOA by the looks of it
>>86861552I think the word has lost all meaning on 4chan.
>>86861892certainly seems that way, so many retards
>>86797664Watch streams dumbass. Only Japanese publishers and devs like from, atlus and konami require this. It's the publisher doing it, not them.
>>86794487How did she mog them anon
>>86838294>Mori becoming CEODon't curse us with this bad end you faggot
>>86799706look forward to it
>>86801079There's literally a counterexample to that in Rica, everybody still likes her
>>86868988silly anon thinking liggers actually watch jp vtubers
