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>>86963228Oh yeah, I hoped for a justice (3/3) first MC main server collab with fauna because raora hinted it about that 2 weeks ago. But it was the 7dtd collab in the end.
>Mori telling the Cadians to go homeholy rude, this is a rushia 2.0
GREM
Fauna dicksucking ASMR for 900k
>feels threatened by rosemi and bibootwisty...
https://youtu.be/beBSmQdJU2g
Hour of chatting after the Faumeirissa watchalong was golden spawned plenty of clips
>>86963940Wouldn't it be more fair if she do her part as well and try to only do solo streams?
>>86963940Fuckin leech
https://youtu.be/P4QM5IewwwcMori please get autistic and tell the JP's about Space Marine 2 this kicks ass
>>86964005Yeah wtf. She's done actual male collabs.
Are vtuber fans really into this kind of stuff?
>>86964023the german and french version is better imho
>>86964023Wish vtubers were a thing when Space Marine 1 came out, so they could have saved Kingdom of Amalur
>>86963940What is this? Why naming biboo and fwmc.>On twitchWtf she can de buff herself even further?
>>86964045RAPE
>>86964045Yeah
>>86964045No I only like ENs
>>86963940Rosemi gets ten times her ccv any given day and Biboo can hit 100 times her ccv. There's no reason to even think about them. Especially Biboo.
>>86964072Wait for the CC playthroughhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhbpv_Ktz4c
>>86964045rape
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgnfPPb9JI3e9A4cXHnWbyg/community?lb=UgkxvUqSOaQzSwo9mJZLlqpxPag5mBjs3g6a>Shiori thought the server collabs were at a different time so she has to reschedule>Still will only play about half of the days.>Since it's Shiori we're talking about about she will will barely talk to anyone so she might as well not have joined.At this point I'm convinced she only accepted to cash in a couple 2K streams to debuff herself even more.
>>86964211It's fine
>>86963727I wonder if Azki knows how much people lust after her, and, if she does, what she thinks about it.
>>86964194https://youtu.be/3UJOz2zeqKM?t=382real Verdun vibes
>>86964211Ame went affiliate status because she could not compete with debuffvella
>>86964120I could have swore there was a time Rosemi was the runt of NijiEN. Now days it seems like she's one of their top streamers. Which honestly isn't saying much.
>>86964045AIslop? Not really
*FINAL EN COPE TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*>10/07 TALLY (1.000 - 4.999)3.177: Doppio (Nijisanji) | Announcement Stream2.980: Mint (Indie) | Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater2.166: Bettel (Holostars) | Escape the Backrooms w/ Bettel 21.851: Tenma (Phase-Connect) | Black Souls II1.800: Shiina (Phase-Connect) | Handcam Stream1.469: Fulgur (Nijisanji) | Silent Hill 21.183: Flayon (Holostars) | Silent Hill 21.148: Uki (Nijisanji) | Fields of Mistria1.146: Miori Celesta (Indie) | Karaoke Stream1.061: Kou (V4Mirai) | Rockin' Karaoke Relay 20241.051: Shinri (Holostars) | Inscryption1.041: Serina (V4Mirai) | Rockin' Karaoke Relay 2024Doppio becomes the EN Cope tally winner no. 60
>>86964287Midsemis always been in the middle of the pack. Petra was the first runt, then Reimu, then Aia, then Twisty.
>>86963940https://twitchtracker.com/twisty_amanozakoGRIM
>>86964348holy mother of 2 views
>>86964343>doppio beating mintlmao
>>86964344Also found this while looking for her numbers.
>>86964387AIEEEEEEEEE
>>86964385seggs
>>86964387Not So Slim Shady
>>86963940>Makes niji livers insecure
>>86964045Damn right
>>86964287rosemi and scarle have a fanbase disconnected from the rest of niji, rosemi didn't benefit from the malesanji incline but she also wasn't hit as hard compared to others when the selen yab happened
>>86964348
>>86964464Ames future
>>86963940>>86964120>>86964438I mean, considering probably like 97% of her fanbase most likely watches Biboo too, but only 0.05% of Biboo's fanbase watches her, that's not even insecurity, that's facts
>>86964278Going affliate is her way of competing with debuffvella, because how much bigger of a debuff can you get than straight up leaving hololive
>>86963940Twisty should just do a pee holding stream, if she's going to blatantly grift she needs to appeal to my tastes more, I will even send her a sticker if she pees herself which should make up for a third of her weekly income
>>86964503I wish because I want her to come back
>>86964387he only streamed for 5 days with progressively worse numbers then stopped again. He hasn't streamed in over a week now. That was a very short lived return.
>>86964560Must be killing his inner numberfag
>>86963940>Acting like this towards her fans>While still doing male collabs I don't get it
>>86964560Just move to bilibili
ID lives like this...?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fvKD3CgdIw
>>86964509I doubt it, there is no overlap between holofans and nijifans in 2024.
>>86964120
>>86964653that's called grifting
>>86964458Still isn't pretty.
>>86964671Check Rosemis chat overlap I bet she's still like 30% EN overlap
>>86964691>kills tsunderia>then kills nijiexcellent work agent rosemi.
>>86964691grim
Nerissa is on a mission to invite as many lesbians as possible in the holobox
>>86964607Probably. the point he stopped streaming would have put him at 3 view on the next stream. There's no way he wouldn't have a breakdown if that happened.
Is not doing male collabs really holding small corpos back when the market leader HoloEN is currently experiencing one of its strongest periods in years and have only done like 1 homo collab in the past year?
>>86964607Imagine being "top of the world" and the more time goes on the more you fuck up and the more your numbers suffer. And you have no one really to blame but yourself for being a flip flopping sack of shit who keeps changing your content while also simultaneously bitching at your fans only to rescind it like the spineless sissy you are. He knows he fucked up and doesn't want to face it. He may not have gotten the same numbers he used to, but if he didn't fumble LITERALLY EVERY BALL HANDED TO HIM he wouldn't be a sub 2k shitter. He wouldn't be HoloEN tier, but he sure as fuck wouldn't be in the position he's in now.
im watching hayama playing SH2
>>86964691My point still stands. She's in the upper portions of NijiEN streamers. That's just how bad they are now.
>>86964772Good I welcome the scissors sisters
>>86964806"Unfapped Market"
Day 7 is wedding btw
>>86964691I've seen much worse retention
>>86964838too bad the game itself is garbage it flopped in CN and pretty much DOA in global too
>>86964806you should just gosling maxx as a vtuber, learn to play a guitar and sing along and roll in money
>>86964890Yea we've all seen IRyS here
>>86964806The way I'm seeing this situation, they get invited to events with bigger male streamers. She declines, the males wanted her so they lose the invite.
>>86964836Ok, but he was never top of the world tho, EN wise her was always under Gura and never came near the actual JP first army
>>86964925Ennacuck....
>>86964931Anon there are quotation marks for a reason.
>>86964927>bigger male streamers.Those don't exist. Like being real, there's no males out there than can actually bring a significant boost to any of them, like what, the Ryoma dude from NijiEN who even goes 2view
>>86964931Dude has a million subs and made a million bucks, just because he's not Pewdiepie doesn't mean he wasn't hot shit for about 6 months in 2022.
>>86965069Mistake
>>86964927>the males wanted her so they lose the inviteI don't know about their ccv but she's not the most subbed member of V-dere so it would be weird if that was the case.
>>86965039>Dude has a million subs and made a million bucksDo you realize just how many holos fall under those two categories and they aren't even at the top of their own company
>>86965005I know that. When I say bigger male streamers I'm saying bigger than them and I'm not just limiting it to vtubers.
>>86965135Yeah but no male vtuber in the EN sphere will ever be close.
>>86965135And? I'm not comparing him to Holos. Get your brain out of console war for 2 seconds
>>86965127Is she the sexiest though? The reason a girl gets invited for this kind of stuff isn't generally her numbers.
>>86964892The first game survives on pennies, It'll be fine
Is this dude autistic or does he not get hyperbole
>>86964806People really will say anything to prop up random males. I don't like that people feel obligated to pump up male vtubers when the market is so much sink or swim.
>>86965185She had a coomer model, twitch style
>only 3.7k votes in latest Mumei member postany numbers for other promise/EN girls? I bet myth has at least double
>le retard de vox akumanigger was never "hot shit" he was just felated by worthless chink fujoshit and his decline started way before the Selen stuff
numbers
CC biboo collab in 2 h 30 min
>>86965185Model wise maybe but are male streamers really inviting girls because of how sexy their models look?
Me and my wife
>>86965268literally no one mentioned the selen shit but you
>>86965290CC showing the power of "just fucking ask", that is why she gets so many collabs
>>86965299That's a valid point retarded faggot, chinkjisanji was dying even before the implosion
>>86965246RIP Twitch
>>86965246Hopefully they all have a backup plan if twitch keeps hammering them
>>86964806incomprehensible that someone thinks not doing male collabs is holding back their all-girl vtubing group. Nobody really wants this content, the only still successful vtubing group in the EN market avoids it entirely. Do they think they have better data about what the market wants than Cover? Do they think Cover hasn't tried as hard as possible to make it work, and been rebuffed every single time?It has gotta be a "for the cause" thing, only explanation that makes sense to me. Some people unironically think of male vtubers as a discriminated against lower class and that not collabing with them is the same thing as turning black people away from your lunch counter in 1950.
>>86965283A song her style really works for
>>86965185I would sexpest Mozu if I had the chance
>>86965246>That motion made my dick twitchBanned forever
>>86965255There's a Nerissa poll from 5 months ago with 4.4k votes
>>86965330Yes, but point where ANYONE was talking about Selen. The only one who brough it up was you, despite everyone else already calling vox a failure
>>86963940wouldn't I give anything for someone to yab and show their discord again kek
>>86965330No one said otherwise bro, who the fuck are you even arguing with
>>86965329Yes? That was always the case. There is no competition for collabs, you just ask. Some people ask less before they don't want to collab that much.
https://youtu.be/_LJXTHaDhlMhttps://youtu.be/_LJXTHaDhlMhttps://youtu.be/_LJXTHaDhlM
>>86965371You sure that's not public?
>>86964385>flat mumeiEww
>>86965375Ok so? i don't get where the issue is here?>>86965399The retard pretending vox was ever "hot shit" when cuckxiem was botted trash, imagine getting baited like omegatranny roru
>>86965329>the german holos are the most extrovert
>>86965246I guess shondo is melting down.
>>86965329more like EN has recovered from the grim era and people are streaming now a days.
>>86964385just because this is the cunny thread and you can cunnify things doesn't mean you should
>>86964806>>86964806>HoloEN is currently experiencing one of its strongest periods in years and have only done like 1 homo collab in the past yearPlaying devil’s advocate, why would you try to compete with holoEN on their own turf in a strong period? It made sense to do CGDCT/GFE when HoloEN were busy owning the chuds, but now those chuds have plenty of hololive to watch and no reason to try small corpos. It would be better to try cultivating a different audience that wasn’t getting what they wanted out of hololive—like homo collabs.Or it would be if literally anyone at all wanted to watch that
>>86965246Rest in piss Shondo
>>86965473it is the french DNA, that is also why she calls her viewers stupid all the time
>>86965478Time to get anime tiddies
>>86965504I think going for Hololite still works far better. That's Mints whole career
>>86965504>. It would be better to try cultivating a different audience that wasn’t getting what they wanted out of hololive—like homo collabs.Nigga Nijien has been doing this shit and look how that turned out for them
>>86965330They started declining after Mysta's graduation
>>86965504>cultivating a different audience that wasn’t getting what they wanted out of hololive—like homo collabs.literally no such things, the audience for that shit does not care if it's the norme and there is no "chuds" to own around
>>86964806You don't understand, they will wither and DIE without cocks.>but I'm a male and i post in their chats all th-NO, IT HAS TO BE A VTUBING MALE'S COCK!IT HAS TO!IT JUST DOES, OKAY?
>>86965569Before that. Reimugate and Sonny's mom
>>86965453it's members only
>>86964806No, it’s obvious a lot of these girls were fans of nijien or the homos and were just hiding it. Some of it also has to do with brave pumping out mixed events they want to be part of.
>>86965246>Can't even make a "I'm 12 and what is this" jokeBruh
Lots of JP wedding art
>>86965504Because you don't stop selling a good product just because someone sells it better. You just find ways to make yours different enough to still draw in people. Perhaps a sports girl vtuber group that does sports casting and stats. Or a stand up comedy vtuber group where the girls are all comedy focused and have live stand up nights. There are a million different directions to try before putting a dick in your mouth as a female vtuber.
>>86965504There's no audience for male collabs. Homobeggars only beg because they want to take away the holos from the hands of "muh unichudcels" and the nijiniggers only care about their liver failures.
>>86965644It's the same here, ate a 30 day for a joke like that
>>86965644I've seen people try to meme about being underage in a twitch chat once and get absolutely deleted. No second chance what so ever.
>>86965255
>>86965255>>86965625>fucking nerissa has more members than mumeiah at least some drop off when you dont stream
>>86965246What a bunch of fags.
>>86965684>learn what true Rule 2 really meanthappens to the best of us anon
Isn't Biboo going overboard on the whole sexy thing?
>>86965776Nope
>>86965644They don't want to assume any liability even if it's a joke
>>86965504True male vtuber collabs have never been tried. It's fresh untested territory!Except for NijiEN, holostarsEN, and the vast majority of small corpos and indies... all of which are in the dumpster
>>86965675>comedy>sportsi'm sure someone has tried these and failed.
>>86965504The western vtuber market is small, you basically have hololive dominating cgdct, nijien has what’s left of the fujos, phase with the /pol/ crowd and vshojo for the ones who like fleshies.
>>86965776blame your fellow discord buddies for calling her unsexy.
>>86965776Worked for Fauna and her breast envy, why wouldn't it work for Biboo if she tried working on her sexy image?
>we have kronies ittdisgusting
>>86965504>a different audience that wasn’t getting what they wanted out of hololive—like homo collabs.Yeah but the audience that asks for homo collabs doesn't actually watch the homo collabs. No one does, why would you burn the audience that's the most willing to financially support you to do some collabs that won't actually bring in numbers, the Arya girl from VSPOEn had better numbes on her solo Apex streams than the male collabs and I'm pretty sure that goes for just about everyone else, male collabs are never a buff, they either underperform compared to their median or do about the same, at the cost of their paypig audience, male vtubers have never been a buff for girls, the only ones who get anything out of co ed collabs are the males themselves
>>86965246heh
>>86965749Found an IRyS game poll from 6 months back with 4.3k. Most of her game polls get about 3k but she usually decides a couple hours after posting them so there's no long term incentive to vote
>>86965733The same thing also happens on 4chan and nobody cares.A good way to get rid of retards too.
>>86965925>sexual harassment>exposing non-sexual body part??????????
>>86965968I just thought it was funny watching the streamer joke about it, people try it out and then streamer panics calling them retards.
>>86965925Hard times to be a Twitch groomer.
>>86965246>The application of these rules relies solely on our wimps.
>>86965757using polls as a metric is super useless because the engagement depends on the type of poll, what the poll is asking, and many other things. There's no reliable metrics for membership
>>86966033That's why you do it on discord
Why is Biboo like this https://youtu.be/0k_KoWZL40o?t=4959
>>86965246Bae making jokes of being 12 will get her banned on Twitch
>>86965968I wish twitter would insta ban every minor
>>86966038> wimpsdunno if intentional, but hehe.
>>86966049Chat scrapers are the most reliable, as long as the person streams regularly
I don't know how but somehow I ended up getting married to my friend!?
>>86966027It's the equivalent of people making terrorism jokes at the airport and getting surprised they're being detained by the feds.
>>86965876We appear when you least expect it
>>86965776>Biboo going overboard on the whole sexyThat would require her to be at least a little sexy.With her body no matter what she does it won't be overly sexy
>>86963727The NTR bastard...
>>86965876
>>86966076They can't even get rid of bots.
>>86966164The bots don’t put their age on their profile unlike minors
>>86966150A rock cannot into sexy
>>86966117I want to read that light novel now.
>>86966109>Chat scrapers are the most reliableWe already know those are also not reliable, >>86965625 Chat scrapers estimated Nerissa to be under 3k members which is not the case. It's just one of those metrics that's not worth quantifying because it will never be even close to accurate
>>86966164That would kill their traffic
>>86965246That means Gura can't go and stream on Twitch...And that's a good thing
>>86966234The scraper doesn't need and can't get the absolute number what it can get is a relative number to other people. No method can get the absolute number
What did Iofi mean by drawing herself getting married
>>86966258when has Gura ever violated any of those rules?
>>86963940does she actually stalk her viewers to figure this out or is it brain worms?
>>86966309so it is worthless
https://youtu.be/HLnalLS97i4https://youtu.be/HLnalLS97i4https://youtu.be/HLnalLS97i4
>>86966321Do Muslims even wear that kind of wedding dress
>>86966321Her parents are marrying her off because sadly she had the bad luck of being born a woman in indonesia
>>86966321she's waiting for her perfect white man
>>86966375kinda random
>>86965548and be called a leech by the HoloCHADS. idk if that's a good decision.
>>86966361Every stream. Showing feet, even casually is sexual. Showing tail is sexual, making slightly lewd jokes is enough.
>>86966361By role playing Loli (or underage) characters
Azukichi's plans...
>>86966368It's good for comparing people to each other. Which is sort of the point of numberfagging?
>>86965246Making a whole new set of rule just to spite a person (Shondo) is crazy
>>86966416>two gaijin living in Japan collabing with the most gaijin-friendly JPNot really.
>>86966416Not really all things considered. Haachama loves the peppeloni and girls
Well Anins could you?
>>86966486It's not if it's not accurate there are plenty of data to go by this shit isn't useful at all
>>86966497She should get the clue that Twitch does not want her on their platform
>>86966375She really likes to surround herself with other ESLs huh
>>86966429I'm sure they really care about 4 shitposters on vt
>>86966587Well I disagree and appreciate the dude who puts together the membership scraper chart
Kiara delay to 2:15
>>86966402It’s me btw
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *Here it goes>85,290: Pekora (Hololive)>44,511: Miko (Hololive)>31,943: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>28,430: Botan (Hololive)>23,709: Shion (Hololive)>22,156: Fuwamoco (Hololive)>21,256: Kanade (Hololive)>20,501: Korone (Hololive)>18,250: Lunlun (Nijisanji)>18,131: Chloe (Hololive)>17,437: Lauren (Nijisanji)>15,875: Gaku (Nijisanji)>15,357: Mio (Hololive)>15,053: IRyS (Hololive)>14,554: Gigi (Hololive)>14,193: Salome (Nijisanji)>14,141: Bijou (Hololive)>13,632: Polka (Hololive)>12,751: Yashiro (Nijisanji)>12,638: Calliope (Hololive)>12,468: Tsuna (VSPO)>12,077: Flare (Hololive)>12,001: Koyori (Hololive)>11,363: NeruMero (Indie)>11,331: Nerissa (Hololive)>10,848: Cecilia (Hololive)>10,698: Iroha (Hololive)>10,640: Kanata (Hololive)>10,501: Ran (774 inc)Gold for Pekora with her love bed feat. Marine with Miko getting silver with TCG and Kuzuha, bronze
>>86966685does Zeta even count as ESL at this point? her English is perfect and sounds better than like a third of EN
I don't see anon with exact numbers posting, so just quick look at the top campaigns list:Fauna - need like 1/2 sales to 400Bae - 300-320Mumei - a bit under 300Kronii - ~220IRyS - ~210Honestly pretty grim, there are still 25 days but the sales already seem really slow day to day, and it's not gonna get any faster without some advertising, which the girls don't care about. Getting to 1000 might be a challenge even for Fauna here. It's funded so I'm getting mine, but kinda a bummer.
>>86966795Why did you give your local time?
>>86966903Because I'm American
>>86966942Cringe
>>86966942That doesn't narrow down the slightest, considering the multiple timezones in that country
>>86966894They have better merch available and the Anniversary is coming so it's not surprisingGIVE ME THE FREN WITH U BEANIS ALREADY
>>86966894They are kinda meh and Holo so much fucking merch right now
>>86966838>85,290: Pekora (Hololive)>44,511: Miko (Hololive)Unreal mogging, is this why the thread has been so quiet?
>>86966972Probably because he gave a SEA time
Thoughts?https://x.com/YukaYukaMiharu/status/1843276119707177116
>>86965246la+ ...
>>86966972I posted the timezone.....
>>86966375Who's house?
>>86966894Next time shitters here are asking why promise got skipped over for Advent for some random merch thing remember these grim numbers
every time I try to post from my phone I have to wait a full minute FUCK JANNIES
>>86966894I see shit like this and it's funny because there are times where shit actually doesn't get funded and here people are complaining that some shit that looks like knockoffs aren't getting more sales
>>86966321it means she's getting older
>>86966894Sales for these were mid even for Myth back in the day iircIMO the design is just kinda lame, I've bought 90% of gura merch but I skipped these for her and I'm gonna skip them for the Promise girls I like as well. Would rather save the shelf space and money for anniversary, bday, and concert-related merch
>>86967070LOL NIGGERby your logic the rest of Advent is even more irrelevant since they don't get those Nendos
>>86966838>yuribait after her homo declarations
>>86967048It is funny that EST and Manila time are exactly 12 hours apart
What's Kiara doin?
Would you marry this cat knowing she has no human rights?
>>86967051
>>86967070Remind me how long it took Nerissa to sell out her limited?
Mio is for old bald men wearing fox masks
I will never be a giant lizard with radioactive laser breath...
>>86967205Gladly
>>86965246...out of 10!
>>86967195Don't click that csem one. someone hacked that dudes deviant art account and started posting cp on it. Retards thought it would be a good idea to screen cap this and post it to twitter.
https://x.com/magowaffle/status/1843221657143685143
>>86967735glad this dude came out of hiatus just for Holoctober
>>86967735this Kronii is too fat
Fauna won't stream today despite saying she will last week. She'll leave a message saying she needs rest because of all the upcoming collabs because she's a lazy whore.
>>86966109>Chat scrapers are the most reliable, as long as the person streams regularlyThat relies on too many assumptions. For one that everyone has the same percentage of members that chat regularly.We've seen it relies too heavily on how often someone streams. Consistancy of timeslots likely heavily effects that percentage to.It has some uses to get a rough idea of minimums but it comes with a huge asterisk
>>86967848
>>86965504To this day, not a single person in the industry has understood the appeal of Hololive completely.It's not just one, but SEVERAL things that Hololive's top talents excel in one after the other, in order to get the fuck-huge audience that they have right now. I'm going to list them in increasing order of importance.> 1. IdolshitObviously far more popular in Japan. And HoloEN have a solid hold on the niche in EN. Very hard to replicate without proper funds, and even with funds you can get an audience mismatch for this type of thing e.g. VShojo & Phase concerts. For some reason this is what most EN chuubas have latched on to as "success", despite the next points being a much bigger requirement that FEEDS INTO the concept of idols.> 2. CGDCT/BoxThis is obviously something no one other than Hololive have been able to replicate to full effect, because a group of women will ALWAYS devolve into infighting, shitflinging and catfights. For Holos, every new collab leads into new dynamics, new collab groups, and even some one and done lost groupings that don't work out, but they treat it as "it is what it is" and one failure doesn't stop most of them from trying new things. Somehow HoloEN have managed to keep inter-talent conflicts on the down-low for the most part.There was the CGDCT event from a few small corpos but I didn't follow it closely enough to check how good it was, but at least SOME of them seem to be attempting to build boxes of their own and embrace CGDCT.> 3. ComedyThis is where every other company completely and utterly fails to even READ the market.HoloJP's top talents have peak fucking comedy on their side. No matter WHAT they do, they do it in a way that ends up being hilarious. Whether it's Korone and her random-ass silly drawings, Subaru's tsukkomis and exaggerated reactions, Pekora and Miko's reactions and banter with their chat, and all the comedy oriented collab groups like SMOK, TowaMOS, Bakatare, Micomet etc. it's all various forms of comedy that have still not been replicated in the rest of the EN industry. HoloEN have SOME talents like Gura, Raora etc. who focus on comedic aspects, but they're still quite inconsistent about it, and there's no talent like Pekora or Miko in HoloEN who is strong enough at comedy to be KNOWN for their comedy more than anything else.And obviously the rest of the EN industry have absolutely NOTHING on Holos. I can only think of Tenma in the EN sphere who is actually known for her comedy before anything else, rest of the industry is completely fucking dry in that genre.> 4. StoryTop talents of HoloJP lead this by miles and miles, although HoloEN have slowly started catching up - but they still have a long way to go.Nothing can even be said about the rest of the EN industry, even people like Ironmouse haven't managed to create a story for themselves even though they were given some of the best starting points for an arc.> 5. Lack of DramaThis is something that's impossible for EN. HoloEN have each other, IDs and JPs to collab with, but asking the rest of the EN industry to collab with each other without creating drama is an impossible task.If two people interact, there will ALWAYS be some or the other drama that inevitably results from it. Professionalism is a lost art in the EN sphere, and people will air out every single detail of every minor gripe they have with someone else online just to get a few pats on their back.> 6. ConsistencyThere may be chuubas that are 2views, indies, small corpos and random groups who MAY have all of these factors combined, but they never seem to be able to put out the talents they have in a way that hooks people onto them. And even when they have little sparks of it, get clipped and get some eyes on them, they seem to just.. not be consistent about it. In a stream of 3 hours, you'd have maybe 2-3 moments that are cute or funny or make you chuckle, and there's often moments where you get the "ick" so to speak - unironically shitting on the fans, being bored of the game or whatever they're doing etc. Whereas in most top Holos' streams you'll consistently have a smile on your face because every few minutes they're saying or doing something cute or funny or otherwise interesting.> 7. MarketingSomeone who may have ALL these factors has never really bubbled up into the EN industry just yet, because they seem to have trouble properly conveying to the audience that they HAVE all these talents.Obviously not all Holos fill every single box depicted here. But there's ENOUGH who do, that it trickles down to the rest of the box. HoloEN is still shaky but even that patched-up box is MUCH better than ANYTHING that any EN VTuber group has managed to put forth.
>>86966375Cute group, still have a soft spot for Haachama so it's nice when ENs include her in things
>>86966975they're so fucking slow with the FWU line it's unavailable, they should be available at debut for the new units alongside the acrylic stands, a plushie of you oshi is the most basic oshikatsu item, and the fact that Advent still don't have them is criminal
CC...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3pjFfKBonI
>>86968079based schizo
>>86968192Ceci is not verified yet?
>>86967590>Still no proper one on one collab It's just sad, the reason people cling to this ship is because ERB doesn't have any interesting dynamics with any other numbers, the MOST she has with anyone (including her genmates) is that Enreco thing with Rissa (who also had another 5 love plots going on with other girls) and a 30 min chat in a zatsu. Hell even Raora who doesn't have a like a main ship or anything gets her share because of how strong her interactions are with the Chatiini
>>869681921 hour ago, most people don't look at comments anymore, what do you expect?
>>86966838
>>86967230Like 14 hours
>>86968192Shiori's parents will force her to graduate so they can send her to a conversion camp.
>The year is 2072>After 48 years in the waiting, she finally gets her closure >”FINALLY, MY HOLOLIVE APPLICATION GOT A RESPONSE!” she says >”Sorry”, the letter says, “previously accepted candidates aren’t eligible for new auditions”>The koyo-sheep girl sighs exasperated >”I should have asked which VR Ping Pong company”Executive producer: Larry DavidDirected by: M Night Shylamalan
>>86967060Hers, she is the only one with a permanent place in japan.
>>86968079What are you talkin about anon, EN chuubas have marketing in the bag, don't you see all these Twitch raids they do on each other? All these big and important fights they get in? They all get the word about them out into the internet, surely that's superior to any other marketing!You forgot networking
>>86968079>3. ComedyPredictions on FauMeiRissa?
>>86968254She should eat Kiara out if she wants to get into the box (as it were)
>>86967128Accurate, it’s not Advent that jumped the line, it’s FWMC
>>86968192CC commentwd on Nerissa's Sweetest Scarlet MV 2 days after it was released. She means well
>>86968427Fauna is unfunny trash with awful male twitch streamer humor
JP7Devis 2ID4EN5New BranchWhat comes next?
>>86968427> FaunaKnown for mommy/uuu/oneesan/gamer skills/ASMR etc.Also known as VTuber Northernlion but idk if that guy's more known for comedy or not> MumeiCute/schizo singing owl who draws weird stuff, don't think she's known for comedy.> NerissaKnown for her singing/family/fertility/egosa etc. not comedy.
>>86968556I appreciate your dedication to trying to keep squirmbeat's memory alive but it just isn't the same...
towi...
>>86968556Meant for>>86968079
>>86966838I actually prefer pekora's size
>>86968488Cute married couple
>>86968589>JP7It's never happening, like for real>Devis 2Later this year >ID4Never happening >EN52025>New BranchAfter how hard Regloss flopped at the start? No.
>>86968598I meant as a combination
wawa 5K
Doesn't Fuwawa know that incest is immoral?
>>86968598>but idk if that guy's more known for comedy or notNorthernlion is infamous for being the least funny person on the planet and having the personality of a loaf of white bread
>>86968556>she goes against every single one of your corpo slopshe literally is full on Hololive now
>>86968676Olly raid
>>86968670they will make a holoPro gent. itorchama
My dad came by. Left me a elk steak and elk sausage, some huge chunks like roast, and some beer. What do I do with the Elk? Do you cook it different from beef?
Wait, WTM plushie has horns THIS big!?
>>86968589A new NEW branch that hasn't been done before!
>>86968713What's your point she goes against every single one of your points and is still successful
>>86968742It's like gameier deer. Cook it really well in case it has parasites but otherwise treat it like beef I guess
>>86968760see >>86968736
>>86968771She literally doesn't go against anything and hasn't been for months
>>86968406Sorry, I meant raora's house.
>>86968760HoloAI's? All Neuro-sama and AIKoyori in one branch and they also do Idol stuff like Vocaloids
>>86965292most of them are sexpests
>>86968795yea, i'm going to use the fire pit outside to cook it. I got a dead tree I can use.
>>86968254ERB also retweeted some art of her and Rissa so she is definitely giving fuel to the fire
>>86968800Out of those 7 points Mori has consistency and that's it, everything else she goes against
Kiara
>>86968760I was certain for a time that they were working up to HoloKR with all the Korean events and surging popularity, and the rise of Korean vtuber competition. But then Korea banned twitch and all the big Korean vtubers magically disappeared into complete irrelevance overnight and now it feels like it'll never happen. I literally don't even remember the name of that one Korean vtuber Kiara was flirting with for a few months, but at the time it felt like they were going to become major players. Gosegu? Kosegu?
>JWU (Don't judge me, I work weird hours as a burger atm)>16k bot injection on FWMC morninglol lmao, called it
>>86968598I would say Fauna and Gura are the funniest vtubers I know, BUT, not sure if they are focusing on actually creating comedy - they just have the wit to... be funny. We can argue if it's the same or not. And as far as "being known for" - yeah, for Fauna it will definitely be more about comfy vibes first.
>>86968079>> 3. ComedyHoloEN has its moments with comedy.. Obviously there's nobody on miko or pekora's level when comedic timing is just following them as if they are loved by comedy gods or something. But there are a lot of comedy types in EN. Like Ina with her puns, IRyS and being yabai, Mumei with her more edgy and darker humor, Kroni with her very dry one, Justice has CC and GG and their amazing dynamic... Like when I think about it a lot of them are pretty good and very different.Also I think almost total lack of drama is very important part of hololive that makes it almost untouchable. Retarded homobeggars and other type of beggars do not get that and why girls-only highschool dynamic is so important for hololive. And what brining outsiders would do to that. Thank god hololive understands that that's how we got holoGTA instead of nonsenseGTA
>>86968909
>>86968760Holojunkies>all crack addicts>no salaries or revenue cuts, just paid in crack>specialize in multi 24 hour streams fueled entirely by crack
Did Kanauru make the red carpet section? The lighting and render looks much more pleasant to be him
>>86968896then why does she do idolshit?then why is she organizing a CGDCT event?she got the story since she clearly improved herself and her behaviourshe hasn't gotten into drama is like 2 yearsshe got the consistencyshe got the marketingtl dr you're retarded
>>86968896You don't think Mori is funny? Or has a good story? Really?
>>86964868so who's gonna be the 'Director Fubuki" this time?
Would you help this poor and exhausted wizard bunny get back to her room back in the town?
>>86968925yeah you told us earlier on, ennacuck. now kys
>>86968947my wife
>>86968888It doesnt work though. Jailbirds dont like ERB generally aside from a small group of euros that were Rissa's vod gang and became Lizbeans who push it really hard
>>86968991>head cannon>head cannon>head cannon>head cannonDon't you get sick of your Stockholm syndrome
>TCGcard slop spamMeanwhile queen of vtubers leading the fotm
>>8696897024 hour streams no sleep? innovative indeed
>>86965504What is the benefit of going for homo collabs for anyone?
>>86968920Gosegu, and yea the fact that they've all been hidden on their own KR platform means KR vtubers are going to forever stay as a KR-only thing. Also, as I'm sure many other have said before, but the Korean landscape regarding female entertainers is....warped, to say the least. I'm going to say that Cover probably has looked into it and figured the risk of unleashing the craziness on top of the usual risks of expansions isn't worth it for a whole branch, and that instead sticking to hiring a Korean talent into other branches is safer.
Is Shion going to hold 19k people hostage until the morning again ?
>>86969063Never again. Thanks Ame.
>>86969056fuck you mean headcanon you retarded fag she literally organized the 7d2d box event for this week and wrote that full HoloEN songare you well in the head nigger
>>86968970I keep saying that a female bossmanjack with a vtuber avatar would be huge
>>86969083They're free to leave any time.
>>86969016Oh come on now, I get that ennacuck is an unseemly falseflagging retard, but I just found it funny how hilariously predictable they are.
>>86968618ew what are those veins on her boobs...
>>86969001Subjective just as much as I hate egg shell walkers you won't find her funny.
>>86969146where are her ankles? what a fatty
Why is IRyS black
>>86969146Kek
>>86969112She can do all that doesn't mean she's any of that shit that was listed dumbass
>>86969146>isrealI may dislike her a bit less now.
>>86968556>>86968771>>86968896>>86969056Mori stop shitposting and go to bed
>>86969219THATS PART OF THE LIST NIGGER FAGGOT
>>86969014Would immediately carry her back!
>>86969167baby fat, she is a child
>>86969146Doesn't twitch ban people for offsite behavior?
The more I hear about Cover staff the more I'm convinced that they're just as retarded as the girls.
>>86969265Sometimes, if they feel like it
>>86969162So you don't find her funny?Because she's seriously funny to me, a holofag. Did you see her whole bit with that musician who died a few years back? That shit had me in tears
>>86969080>The boys are sooooo funny >haha dicks cum gay, this is the best because I’m a white or Asian female in my 20s>if I (a female vtuber) join then I’ll be part of the funny jokes and then it will be clipped and everyone will notice me>and maybe the most popular one will approach me behind the scenes and ask me to be his gf?>wait my fans are upset what the hell they were supposed to support me unconditionally, damn you incels, this is why we can’t have nice things
>>86969146>Twitch actively wants her banned and gone to the point of rewriting its rules to get rid of her>refuses to move to YouTubeI JUST DON'T FUCKING GET IT
>>86969219oh yeah then why would the 7d2d shit is girls only? she could have made one with homopro girls and fags, yet she goes for girls only how curious
>>86969146Her shitposting kind of loses it's punch when you realize she'll be glazing twitch's nuts next stream.
>>86968947Did they made her butt bigger?
>>86968942>Also I think almost total lack of drama is very important part of hololive that makes it almost untouchable. >Retarded homobeggars and other type of beggars do not get that and why girls-only highschool dynamic is so important for hololive. This is one of the underrated factor and the very reason the beggar audience and the holo audience are fundamentally incompatible. The beggar audience wants conflict, streamer A “mindbreaking” streamer B, their favorite channel getting in trouble with management because he wants to “keep things real” and ignore the rules. Meanwhile the Holo audience “only want one thing and it’s disgusting”>TE-TECute girls getting along, playing together with zero drama and zero conflict.
>>86968990holoEN and holoJP are not competing over anything though, the audience is mostly shared besides the ones who stay on their side of the language barrier
>>86969362Tail doko?
>>86966894Fauna: 396Bae: 324Mumei: 298Kronii: 216IRyS: 213
I wish there were good multiplayer wizard games out there outside of Magicka
>>86969133then my bad amigo. but knowing xhe camps here, the message is still the same.
>>86969341And i'm sorry Mori isn't the anti corpo anti holo messiah you were hoping for niggeryou lost deal with it kek
>>86968942Sure, but Ina is more known for being "comfy", IRyS I agree but I feel like her brand leans more towards lewdness and PON than full-on comedy. I can give you Kronii and Autofister, I just haven't watched enough Justice to make calls on them.I loathe to link to this idiot but there's simply no one in HoloEN who produces this type of reaction in an audience (https://youtu.be/_1K2DnCcqpI).
>>86969345She's already stated that she's tried dealing with YT before, but that as an independent creator of insufficient-to-move-youtube-to-action size, she basically got nowhere, and that incident must've bothered her enough that she doesn't want to go back. She's fucked though, since TWITCH doesn't want her now.
>>86969362
>>86969146AIEEEEEEEEE
>>86969119There's only one thing that made me leave and is CC biboo collab.
>>86969146why is she antagonizing her primary streaming platform... is she retarded?
>>86969462No one wants a loli larper on their platform
>>86969319this is unironically how the female mind thinks
>>86969146I don't get why Twitch doesn't just permaban her. Their normalfag audience doesn't care about her and her few thousand fans will be terribly upset, but that's a drop in the bucket.They clearly hate her. So why the waffling around?
This is my wife, feel free to look at her knowing that she's mine and not yours
>>86969083no sleep for the ojisans.
>>86968589Devis 2 probably this year, most likely the next debutEN5 best guess would be 11 months frrm Justice, that seems to be the patternID4 uness they've scouted people specifically it isn't happening until they reopen auditions. The ID4 auditions closed too long ago, they're not keeping people waiting for almost 2 years at this point. No other debuts are likely
>>86969336She must leech every single thing off Nerissa possible
>>86968135chuchuchu
>>86969319Every girl who starts to feel financially secure starts letting the mask slip and then are dumbfounded when they get backlash or lose fans/money.
>>86966389She's not Muslim.
>>86969395Yes, but that was a while ago
>>86969538Because she makes real money for them and they can't afford to ban a moderately popular streamer forever because that would deprive them of at least one whole worker's salary worth of revenue
>>86969446Where the actual fuck do people like you come from?
>>86969538They want to make an example of her by making everyone else’s life hell as a result of her refusing to leave.
>>86969462>but that as an independent creator of insufficient-to-move-youtube-to-action size, she basically got nowhereIsn't she a solid 3view? Yeah it's in Twitch numbers but still more than enough to survive and grow on youtube as long as her fans aren't the type to chase away any new people
>>86969365CGDCT isn't something you do part time. It's all about the consistency
>>86969549Sorry, buddy, but that's Pekora's wife you're ooglin'.
>>86969345>>86969523>>86969538shondo is betting that this is all performative waffling from twitch, daring them to be so lefty that they would cut even more profit from their already hemorrhaging platform
>>86969579You have to admit, Nerissa did really play into it by dedicating a whole song to her.
Why is GG so averse to gachikoi?
>>86969672idk about that, Raden seems to play pretty loosely with it and she's the most popular Regloss
Full confirmation from Kiara that the 3D model is an MV special thing and she can't import into the Holo 3D app.But it's fine like this.
>>86969728>averse>literally shows a picture of her not being averse at all??
>>86969672Good fuck your egg shell walkers Mori is as happy as ever and I don't need you cucks invading her space. It's already been absolute cancer with tourists over the last few weeks. I hate holofags so much
>>86969772>he's admitting that Mori is getting more popular with CGDCT HolofagsTsun-tsun...
>>86969763
>>86969763I'm surprised they didn't make her a limited-banner character.
Is meowthcuck being jealous of squirmbeat again?
Why is Kanata like this
Man, squirm really is gone huh. All we get now is ESL copycats.
>>86968888She does, and I think judging by that, ERB probably wants to have normal holo things like a ship and playful yuri and stuff. She's just a bit too autistic to know how to really do it.
I don't believe a schizo is genuine until he doxxes himself
>>86969824Nah, the hours don't match, this is just one of our usual larpers I'm pretty sure.
>>86966838One of the top duos in Holo.
>>86969809Streaming is for her actual fans and not egg shell walkers like you
>>86969446I can't believe you're trying to pontificate on comedy and humorous content when you've apparently watched that video before, holy shit "3 Hololive Simps Try Not To Laugh" anon are you fucking serious
Hololive will never truly hit the big time in the West without embracing and institutionalizing Sneedposting into their branch culture.
>>86969905
>>86969712>you have to admitShe did the complete opposite>made a tweet about it>"I wrote the song before Justice was even in production">explicitly said it's not about ERB on stream like 4 or 5 times.>"if you wanna make it a interpretation that it is about someone it doesnt have to be ERB. It could also be Senchou or Kiara or Shiori or Biboo">the Sweetest Scarlet part, was part of the sampleThe only time she leaned into it was during the fire dungeon in ENReCo, which was all RP in the first place, and that itself was a horrible because ERB kept making wear sounds whilest Rissa was carrying everybody in the dungeon and Raora was just laughing
>>86969917I don’t know anon…
>>86969956
>>86966881You don’t stop being ESL just because you’re fluent. She’s an “assimilated SEA immigrant” style ESL, where you don’t hear an accent, but cadence and word choice don’t sound native.t. has flip immigrant relatives who speak the same way
>>86969960Liz said that Nerissa dedicated it to her. Why would she lie?
>>86969770that's not a comment conducive to gachi-ing her
>>86970038
>>86970026Hololive tends to fly in the face of silly polshit
>>86970070you're retarded
>>86970070Now you changed it from "averse" to "not conducive" which can apply to practically everything.
>>86969916nigga I don't like the guy, I'm simply using him as an example to show the impressions that people have of certain holo talents e.g Miko.Miko's whole brand is comedy first and foremost, and there's simply no one in EN who has comedy as their primary brand. It's there in bits and pieces for some holos as demonstrated by the anon I was replying to, but "comedy" is never the first thing you think of when an EN holo's name is brought up.
>>86969417Fauna pulling ahead a bit, Mumei maybe catching Bae a little?They really could do with someone that shills merch even a bit, just having ads on the loading/ending screens, or during zatsu/sc reading parts
Great retention
>>86970151This is just thinly veiled en v jp
>>86965329I'd say that Justice and Advent are much more extroverted than Myth and Promise in general
>>86970201Who raided her?
>>86969446...That's the level of comedy we are talking here?
>>86970251nta but i heard her say Ollie
>>86968618Source?
>>86970151Anon, your evidence of Miko being funny is three brown retards calling themselves "simps" and reacting to her.Might as well just post Koefficient or something.You're being a total dumbass.Lots of ENs are funny in different ways, as has been mentioned to you, but you admittedly don't even watch most of them. If I wanted to find Filipino people reacting to Gura clip compilations or whatever I'm sure I could, but it wouldn't even occur to me to watch that stuff because I don't need to see drooling idiots react to stuff I like to validate my enjoyment of it.
>>86970201>botted againIs there a single kiara stream in the last 4 months that's not been botted
>>86970311Changing gears already?
>>86968831These are some nice MumeisI love her boobs
>>86970251Ollie, checking the progress chart, ollie ended right around the jump and the numbers line up.
>>86969855This stuff gives me hope that she wants to be part of everything. She keeps trying to make friends and she knows how it’s supposed to work in hololive but it isn’t quite sticking. If she can find a group she clicks with I think she’ll be great. It would be nice if one of her senpais would adopt her so she isn’t so conspicuously separate; the current situation actually kind of makes me sad.
>>86969484Boobs are way too big
>>86970251
>>86970347Keep wasting money on bots it won't save her career
>>86970301> Anon, your evidence of Miko being funny is three brown retards calling themselves "simps" and reacting to her.No you fucking idiot, READ.Miko is a holo who, when you see her, induces a small chuckle or a laugh, because her BRAND is comedy first and foremost.My point is that there's simply no one in the EN sphere who has that as their primary brand.
Anyone think Nerissa unironically is parasocial to Jailbirds? She's been skulking around random fans and jumpscare responding to them lately.
>>86969446>Enshart guy watches "try not to laugh" clip reaction content from random fleshstreamerskek
>>86970423>Mask off instantly after the smallest of nudgesJesus christ shitposters are so weak these days
>>86970417I really like this graph, one day hololive might have a 24 hour "stair"
>>86970472I wish Fauna would stalk me
>>86970401She could team up with mori or bae. I don't want her spamming my oshi's chat
>>86970472She has always been addicted to twitter but she has grown sweeter to her fanbase over time.
>>86970423She just had her most successful 3D event to date, I think her career is doing fine.
Kiara's raid retention is sexy as fuck
So is this gonna be the last time ever that we see these two collab?
>>86970472>latelyShe's been doing that since debut.
>>86970506This is his MO, he just shitposts until he gets the slightest excuse to go apeshit.
>>869705091 more Gen = 23 people. 24 hour karaoke relay 1 hour sets with 30 minute intro and outro.
Hololive isn't "funny", 99.9% of women aren't. they might be somewhat amusing but hololive's main appeal is cute girls being cute. If I wanted actual wit and comedy there are thousands of fleshstreamers or comedians that are much better. I enjoy watching fauna whine as her pikmin are slaughtered not because it's some comedic masterpiece but because it's fauna being cute.
>>86970311Ollie raided her, but please tell me when the bots appeared. A timestamp would be nice.
>>86970452Miko is botted. Shion's True CCV is higher than Miko's.
>>86970472Nerissa likes feeling supported and nurtured. Look how gentle and kind she is with Kiara. That’s how she wants to be treated.
>>86970417Looks like a 100% raid went through.
>>86970401>She keeps trying to make friendsDoes she really? She's currently isolated because of her lack of effort.
>>86970452Oh my god, I clicked on that video and it literally WAS koefficient. I didn't even realize. Jesus Christ, anon. You watch Koefficient. Your opinion on this subject is worthless.also I now need to go scrub the taint out of my youtube history because it autoplayed
>>86970401>It would be nice if one of her senpais would adopt her so she isn’t so conspicuously separateShe made it a point to highlight “all of them” means Hololive and the Holostars. It makes it a losing proposition for anyone not willing to sacrifice themselves to cater to that audience to make any profound investment in relating to her. Very few people are willing to be in a threeway ship along with ERB and whatever homo she decides to prop up this week
>>86970643Probably the people who have been sleeping since IRyS raided Iofi and Iofi raided Ollie
Kiara was in Irys ass
>>86970676She’s in chat more than anyone else in the company. She hangs out and watches whole streams and cheers for karaoke and she’s always trying to connect with the fans. She’s doing her best! Just in the wrong way…
>>86970702Weirdly enough even homobeggars have barely shipped her with them. A tiny bit with jurad and flaygon mostly just because red color
>>86970677
>>86969916
>>86970791They have actually been really ungrateful in regards to ERB, the most i see them do is wishing back the older collabs instead of cheering her on whenever she shills the homos.
>>86970787Homo chats?
>>86970401I'm honestly surprised Mori hasn't reached out to her, especially since ERB is mirroring early Mori and has singing ambitions.I hope her initial homo push didn't poison Mori's opinion of her...
It's not the same since their spambot broke
>>86970401>It would be nice if one of her senpais would adopt her so she isn’t so conspicuously separate>someone needs to allow her to leechNot only is the issue that she choose her path choosing to be a homocollaber thus isolating herself, it is alsonthat her schedual is the same every week. >no stream 2×>Game>Karaoke>Rebroadcast>SC reading/chat>member streamThe one who "adopts" ERB has to be willing to also homocollab which reduces the potential "hosts", since she wants to carry them along. Best case scenario she gets adopted by Ollie
>>86970791It's the incel mentality at work again anon.Once she "puts out" she's a slut, and they'll keep searching for other targets to "corrupt".These fags don't even watch these collabs they just post on twitter about them all day.
>>86970791>just because red colorBut that’s the exact problem and think about it from, for instance, Bae’s perspective: any deeper relationship with ERB automatically places her straight into that “Holopro reds” beggar delusion. ERB made associating with her a losing proposition EVEN if she never acknowledges the homos anymore
>>86970787Whose chat? Because definitely not in Holos chat.
>>86970677In a perfect world, you'd wake up and check the news and headlines would read "Koefficient and his family slain by ballistic missile launched by Hummus."
>>86970915Because the only thing that'll satisfy them is all the girls collabing with homos. They wanted ERB to open the door but once it became obvious that she wasn't going to pressure the others into it they largely dropped her. Hell, ERB herself barely homocollabs despite the chat spam and everything.
>>86970989She doesn't even homocollab, she has done it ONCE and she doesn't bring them up when she's streaming with other girls, she can pair up with any other girl without issue. CCGG collab more with each other any week than ERB ever has with the homos
>>86970791Homobeggars want to corrupt girls.They don't care if girl is willing
>>86970622I'm still lost at "comedy" vs "being funny" here.
>>86970928Mori days of reaching out are over she content with her place in hololive with her deadbeats and advent children.
>>86970915erb being a homofag doesn't injure anybody, so they don't care about itthey want to see fauna's or mumei's or ccgg's fans hurt like kronii's were
>>86970622Nah they have hilarious moment you're just a normalfaggot retard
>>86970571Why would it be the last? Did I miss something?
>>86971022Kronii wearing wedding dresses is my fetish.
>>86971153>she has done it ONCE and she doesn't bring them up when she's streaming with other girlsThat is correct but then she has to alienate the whole homobeggar audience because eventually they will start harassing Holomem, like they did with Bae last December with the Barbie watchalong
>>86971225Yeah about "hurting fans", they have made it really obvious these last years that they more than anything just want to fuck with the fanbases above everything else.
>>86970791ERB has negative charisma and chemistry with the Homos. Kronii+Vampfag got their rocks off due to them having a classic straight man with "unhinged" person dynamic which is why they're the default pairing beggars keep referencing. Beggars legit want relationships to happen and ERB is too much of a charisma vacuum for them to work with.
>>86971267She has already gotten a taste of that side of the homobeggars when they went after fuwamoco in HER CHAT
Hows the kawaii ccv with their serious announcement frame up?
>>86971150>ERB herself barely homocollabsLiterally only ever did it once. Not even of whiff of it happening again any time soon. Bizarre, you ask me.
>>86971301That’s one of the most amusing things: they’re at the same time “fans of the fanbase”, trying their hardest to blend in to the audience of something they’re completely alien and, on the other side, they’re “haters of the fanbase”, trying their hardest to get the girls to alienate and push out a segment of the audience that, in their view, is undesirable
>>86971443Maybe it makes sense from their perspective since they are primarily fans of the fanbase and thus wants it to be just like they want it.
>>86971419Homosexpests and Homobeggars aren't interested in runt collabs with old hags.
>>86970928>spoilerfuck me if this is true mori really has come around, I always believed that if mori debut with the knowledge and experience she had now she would have never even collab with TT or the homo's.
>>86971225I don't think ERBfag even watch the homos, despite her being a hardore homosis, there's no overlap
>>86971237well something like this happened before...
>>86971419ERB doesn't play games half the time
>>86971543Don't they all scatter like absolute fuck whenever she raids them?
>>86971537Yeah instead she plays VCR Rust with male 2views instead.
>>86971543By definition they must not, even with ERB being a lower-tier EN for the most part, she still has about as many active fans as all of HolostarsEN combined. her karaoke box (which she does literally ever single week) rivals their entire ultra-buff once a year event box.
Bets on how hard Twitch enforce this?https://x.com/zachbussey/status/1843337794154049801https://x.com/zachbussey/status/1843337256691741114
>>86971383She didn't ban them. So she silently agree with them. Stop trying to cleanse her image, cucksarians.
>>86970071
>>86971593>>86971543There's no overlap in the fanbases, no matter how hard cover tries to force it, the "Holopro" fans are not an statistically significant group
Cover is hiding a floor from the talents
>>86971552That's why it won't happen again, everyone knows what happened the first time
>>86971705
>>86971701I don't desire to deal with you today. Falseflag another day.
Good schizosNice thread
>>86971719https://youtu.be/0xeGE_5kSI0?t=2
>>86971674Not even in the slightest. They never do except for like two girls, and then they immediately lift the ban after a day or two.
>>86971765>>86971674They're already excessively enforcing it.
>>86971674I hope they do, I need that site to die already
>>86971593ERB's primary audience are people who want to listen to her singing and lesbians like Maddie. Yes the unironic lesbian audience outnumbers the homobeggars.
>>86971827
>>86971552my beloveds... comeback when?
>>86971873
>>86971847I wonder what the smallest subset of fans who follow the holos will outnumber them
>>86971674Only if your oshi is western and not woke enough
>>86971928
>>86971847>Yes the unironic lesbian audience outnumbers the homobeggars.We have know that for a while, Marine's 20% female audience is bigger than the entire homobox (JP+EN)
>>86971988I don't even think most of Marine's female fans are dykes, they just think she's cool and sexy
>>86970928Mori is currently pretty busy so I doubt she has the time look out for another person. If ERB reach out first then Mori probably would help her but ERB is seem ok with how things are going.
>>86971988It's not just lesbians, I think a lot of women like holos for the friend/"successful onee-san I look up to" vibe too.But yeah either way, the point stands.
>>86971978
>>86963727Reminds me of that NTR doujin
>>86972103
>>86972126>sees a cute girl>immediately thinks of getting cuckedBrainrotted
>>86972064It's funny how hololive can appeal to both the kind of girls that want to look up to successful women while still giving a male audience what they want, something that over the last years appears to be a mystery for most.
>>86972126The only way this sentence could be more SEA is if it was written in Tagalog
>>86972168>>86972126Anon, you say that about everyone.
>>86964464grim
>>86972126faggot
>>86972191It's genetic
>>86972227
Fatgur is still my prediction for next graduation
>>86972287didn't they just removed him from some voice pack stuff recently
>>86972283
So whats the verdict on Biboos song
>>86972287What happened to JP Homo?
>>86972340>>86972287There's nothing else he'd want to do.
>>869668386-20 win for nijisanji, hololive is dead
>>86972227It's a well-known doujin
>>86972325Didn't remove him, they just don't tell the members who gets in the final cut.So some of them record extra stuff for nothing.
>>86972445Is that Netokano or am I being dumb?
>>86972450>they just don't tell the members who gets in the final cut.jesus fucking christ
>>86965246It's amazing to me how a lot people don't know how Twitch does not apply any of these rules to the streamers they do like on their platform, usually big titty sluts that the admins personally jerk off to. The opposite of this is them making a ruleset specifically targeted against someone they dislike, in this case it's Shondo and other vtuber women that use a loli model. Like, people unironically don't know that Twitch admins are VERY public about their rule bending and preferential treatment of certain streamers.
>>86972450I'm past being surprised by niji fuckery but sometimes i just get reminders that they are solely there to make everyone else look competent.
>>86972428sexwa
>>86972566They're basically evil villain corpo, it's fun to watch (from afar)
>>86972490yea, satou kuuki's ahegao faces are pretty great
>>86972506and people are still on twitch because?
CC and BB are live!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LJXTHaDhlM
CC Biboo collab NOW- Lies of PCC put a link to biboo new orisong!https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_LJXTHaDhlMhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_LJXTHaDhlMhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_LJXTHaDhlM
CC's intro skits with her collab partners are very endearing
>>86972678She didn't do it with Fauna because Fauna is a joyless lazy unfunny loser
>>86972678>Biboo T-posing to assert dominanceNice.
>>86969319>and maybe the most popular one will approach me behind the scenes and ask me to be his gf?Answer honestly. If you were a popular male vtuber, would you not use your clout to sleep with a cute girl in secret?
CCBB collab already off to a strong start
>>86972450they asked him if he wanted to be in the voice pack and he said yes, then he recorded the pack, they advertise him as part of the voice pack, but then right before release management wakes up and tells him that he actually wasn't supposed to be part of it in the first place and they remove him
>>86972450Jees, I went to find the tweet to see exactly what he said, but the fucker posts 30+ times a day.Not worth it.
>>86972678just like magni-senpai's high effort introscollab when
>CC played insect glaiveshe truly is french
>>86972783Ok, that's worse.In some ways not as bad for the whole group, but worse for him.
>Biboo: who's the baby?
>>86972783One of his fans was in here the other day talking about how he's also had his novel turned down for publication and some VN idea shot down as well after he commissioned a bunch of stuff for it.Dude is definitely a decent guess for next "high profile" graduation from NijiEN
>>86972625Institutional inertia and the extreme costs of even attempting to start a competitor. Also, despite the facade of rules, Twitch streamers get away with a LOT, to the point where YouTube is kind-of a hostile platform in comparison. Then there's Kick, but the problem there is that discoverability is a dumpster fire due to a lack of population, which kinda sets off its own death spiral effect.
>>86972833go back to /mans/
>>86972402
>>86972833Anon... I hate to be the one to let you know... But he graduated... I know this may come as a shock, I'm sure he was your kami-oshi and you probably really enjoyed his unhinged clips...
>>86966361https://youtu.be/hHagevnlmtc?si=IZhH0970qAYniO6V
They like the Baby Doll name.
>>86971245sally...
I don't even think Fauna is going to stream today. It was supposed to be Minecraft Monday but every single person who could be a guest is streaming before, on top, or after her. This fucking sucks.
>>86972783There really shouldn't be any issues releasing it though, planned or not you now have extra sellable merchandise. Hell you can even be open about this mistake and use the fuckup as a selling point. Fuck they are so incompetent.
>>86972963clips are for tryhards, I'm a thumbnail reader
>>86972933
>>86971719wasn't she gone already?
>>86973033
>breakfast is when you BREAK your FASTwoah...
>>86972896>>86972783Come to think of it, yeah, sounds like he's got a dedicated enough fanbase already, and I remember he's a bookworm.If his next step in life is to get published and Niji doesn't want to do it, then he might bite the bullet and leave his remaining friends there for it.
>>86973098
>>86973083Nah this aint it. This is 100× better
>>86973366
>>86973403lollmao
>>86973425
Niggers anyone wanna play some holo tcg here? https://holoduel.net/
