Ina is not graduatinghttps://x.com/hololive_En/status/1843958944399753300https://x.com/hololive_En/status/1843958944399753300
>>87083035Where the fuck is hlgg
>>87083035Wow I'm shocked. Almost as if faggots /here/ are still bunch of faggots after allWhat's next ? Another senzawa thread ? Or another dooby thread ?
>>87083035Then why all the damage control?
Japan hates Koreans. But can you really blame them.
full damage control
>>87083035Well worded Ina, always keep management on em toes.
Shame. Here's hoping those issues will be a compounding factor to their unhappiness, which eventually will make her tho.
>>87083035don't think of pink elephants
>>87083105>>87083113>>87083124blow your brains out, dramaniggers
>>87083035What kind of retard saw "sorry guys shit happened and I won't be able to tweet" as "I'M GRADUATING VIVA LA TWITCH"? Tell me, grudgepost them so I can laugh at them
>>87083035well duh, obviouslywhat is even the point of this thread?
>>87083174>>87079594
>>87083163
>unable to use her socials because of muh visa???? how does this make any sense?
>>87083216>deboonked within 10 postswowand they still managed to shitpost an entire thread out of itjust wow
>>87083255Her work Visa is to work with Cover while in Japan, her company accounts are Cover's.
>>87083105Cover fucked up her visa renewal and they don't want to hold them accountable because "muh jap corp who I oshi instead of the talent can't do nothing wrong"
>>87083223it's literally confirmed it's a visa issue, stop projecting
>>87083035damage control full on display. ina caught them off-guard. good on her,
>>87083292And what's stopping her from flying back to Canada to resume streaming operations?
>>87083346READ NIGGA, READ
>>87083346That's exactly what she's doing, but she probably has to unfuck the visa on her passport first or they won't let her leave from the airport.
>>87083301They wanna squish the rrat that she is graduating or shadow suspended when in reality it's just Cover fuckup with visaCover should be blamed for making her cancel her plans, but anons who make graduation baits are far worse retards who dramabait for the sake of dramabait
>>87083175previous bait thread reached bump limit
>>87083364Answer the question instead of deflecting like the retard you are.
>>87083105>>87083113>>87083124Get bent shitstains.https://x.com/ninomaeinanis/status/1843936739427328047
>>87083427>>87083389Learn to read
>>87083340If it was just visa issue, she could just say oh something came up and not rant on a long message implying how incompetent the logistics are. Or she can fly back to Canada and do everything from there until the issue is fixed. It's obvious it's not just the Visa issue here. The visa is just a symptom of something else much bigger.
>>87083389I see that's fuckin retarded in a way. Cover should put word to whoever handle all this shit so she can be allowed to fly back home then. I'm going to assume ina never looked at her visa expiration date since applying for a visa in Japan especially when she's Korean is going to be a total fucking drag
>>87083035>Cover doing Saudi-tier shithttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kafala_systemCover is even worse than Nijisanji
>>87083035was hoping she was, it's about time the vtuber bubble finally burst instead of just a few air holes
>>87083618Saar, you lost? /v/ is on the other door
Someone tried to stalk and rape Ina
>>87083580the oppressive system inspiration makes sense
It's fine. Ayame reported Ina and now she's getting deported.
company throwing her under the bus to save face, where have I seen it before
>>87083391Same thing that happened to Biboo? I remember she randomly went home for a few weeks during her JP 3D trip while the rest of Advent stayed in Japan.
>>87083651hololive needs to start suffering like the rest
>tried making posts calling out Cover twice>they got posted but are nowhere to be seenhuh
>>87083798maybe in 2 more weeks
>>87083707keep dreaming fish fucker
>>87083035Yet
>>87083096Banned, reduced to ashes.
>>87083813holotroons run this board like mafia
>>87083813Jannies just btfo your wanking session I see
>>87083035YetImagine how angry she is.
>>87083035What kind of "internal logistical issues" that would realistically prevent Ina from creating content?
>>87084108I wish they did so for other holoEN members.Instead we have to put up with constant "2 more weeks" shitposting even in our generals.
>>87084169black company's one
Holofags really are the Apple fanboy of vtubing
>>87084263Still enjoying stuff without paying $1k every year tho
>>87083618>Success breeds jealousyGood luck with all the shit out there.
>>87083035shark can just say its tummy hurts and be done with it
This is why I don't follow Hololive as much as I used to. You literally go from week to week expecting the next big termination or graduation. You can't enjoy it any more as you just dread every little announcement.
>itt: "people" blaming the victim instead of gubment bureaucracyjust kill yourselves already
>>87084169Visa issues. She's unironically stranded in Japan as we speak. She can't leave the airport or board a plane until it's resolved.However how did cover or ina let it come to this far that's the real question. A. Ina saw the expiration date on her visa informed cover months ago about a renewal and cover told her they will handle it but forgot.B. Both ina and cover forgot about the visa.And why she can't? Well for starter her visa expired if she works in Japan then cover will get in trouble with immigration because that's the equivalent of hiring undocumented worker over there. She could stream from home but not while she's physically in Japan without the visa and because she doesn't have one she can't buy a plane ticket home either. Until the situation is solved. Plus she's Korean she's going to go through at least 2 xenophobic immigration nips workers before she finds one who isn't a piece of shit.
>>87084425Can you at least prompt images with Vtuber references inset instead of slapping logos on generic images you talentless hacks?
>>87084263Worse they are the kpop fans of music
Reminds me of how NijiEN got fucked over by visa issues for their concert thing a couple of years ago
>>87083813>even in the archive, nowhere to be seenIt sure is a mystery.
>>87084619It made you mad, so it worked as intended :3
>>87083545I fucking doubt that lmao. Do you know how complicated this shit can get, especially for someone in her position? She'll be lucky if it only takes a week.
>>87083035phasesisters what now....
>>87083813>>87084734What a coincidence...
>>87083174Lol twitch living rent free in your head. Really hates dooby that much huh?
>>87083813assuming this isn't a shitpost because posts don't just randomly disappear withouteven getting deleted, lil bro actually got filtered by the sitewide "only 3 bad words allowed" filterhow did you miss that getting spammed everywhere?
>>87084613Or c) Jap bureaucracy just fucked her over, she slipped through the cracks somehow. It could be any number of reasons.
>>87083035we need the orange Bigmouth to tell us whats really going on
>>87083364>Billion dollar company>Can't get its contracted talent the right visa>Probably expecting her to lie about visiting for vacation insteadWhy are they so inept? Is this why kiara complains all the time?
I just came back to the board 5 min ago and there are threads about ina graduating, then ina not graduating, and both full of brownoids clamoring for the death of hololive and ina graduating.Is it just because holo is the biggest player? that leads to this vulture behaviour, wishing for them to fail?I was supposed to be mad at Cover for fucking up visa logistics but I can't even bring myself to do that now because of the absolute retards on here
>>87083292So talents that hasn't got a visa to Japan yet (most likely justice) just cease to use any of their accounts? This makes zero sense.
>>87084984This too
Nothing ever happens.
>>87085134No, they got their visas before they even debuted. Hence the group bonding trip they had in Japan.
>>87085074Smal company, fax machine broke, ples andstan onegai
>>87085089they want holo to fail so that their stupid loser 2view on twitch gets more clout or something. they see it as a culture war and seethe endlessly that cover is winning it effortlessly and are mad the industry isn't all veibae clones doing hottub fleshtuber streams.
>>87083035It's very obvious she's not graduatingShe's gonna get terminated
>make imaginary problem>fix imaginary problemWOW COVER ARE SO GOOD
>>87084169Good old Japanese bureaucracy and dragging it's feet if foreigners are involved. Happens all the time and is bullshit.
>>87085134whatever they told Ina was enough to convince “Ina” the seasoned professional artist, who has been to Japan countless times, to go out of her way and tweet 36 mins after the initial tweet to allude to the reason.
According to this board people need visas to tweet...
>>87085492you need a work visa to work in japan, and being inanis (working on projects, using her social media, streaming) is working
>>87085492So “Ina” is just flat out lying then?
>>87085089>Is it just because holo is the biggest player? that leads to this vulture behaviour, wishing for them to fail?Din Din DinBingo
>>87085523this is complete bs if she can't tweet without visa then how did she make this tweet to begin with?
>>87085523so how does literally any politician, other streamer or some company head/employee tweet when flying around the globe?
>>87085641idk maybe her visa expires within a few hours?
>>87085641she didn't make the tweet, retard, management did.
>>87085674She's having visa issues. You don't want to complicate things when you're being scrutinized.
>>87085641they're taking precautions starting now so that she doesn't get in trouble legally.as it stands at the moment she's technically being an illegal alien.It's why they can't just flat out say it's visa issues since she's been working all this time; also why she has to use her RM to wink wink nudge nudge
>>87083255I'm glad the government of Japan allowed her to make that one statement clarifying that, just one tweet everything else past that would equate to a death penalty.
>>87085674Do those people work for a JP company?
>>87085674nigga…Cover is based in Japan. Their channels and IP are based in Japan. If “Ina” is telling the truth, then talents need a work visa for Japan at all times. Not that fucking difficult. That being said, Cover USA intends to be fully operational next year and hopefully there won’t be any more gay shit like this.
>>87085733holy fucking christ you absolute dumbass niggers…maybe the visa expires in a couple days and they’re being cautious
>>87085492Yes because ina the character belongs to cover who's situated in Japan. Why do you think they announced that they will be skin walking her account until every thing it solved retard
>>87085692sure and in this tweet management blame...management
>>87085835There's no cover USA retard. Is just a warehouse for overseas merch. They still have to go to Japan to do the 3D stuff
>>87083391Why can't she use the social media or stream if it's just about visa though?
>>87085074>Billion yenFixed that for you
>>87085523when holo en travel to japan to they need a visa to tweet? this is mindboggling...
this cope is not quite on par with when gura made a strawpoll from sweden, but it's up there lmao
>>87086001>>87086002>>87086016holy ESLchamas….
>>87086002Because those are related to her job.
>>87086059but she doesn't have to do it from Japan?
>>87086059tweeting is not a job unless you're a glowie...
>>87086013Meanwhile the actual billion dollar company Nigisanji is a dumpster fire lol. The world works in mysterious ways
>>87083679Flare...
>>87086087>>87086096Yes, you can't work if you are not technically legally employed
>>87086042ok>87085444
>>87086087Agreed. She should go home.>>87086096She's an entertainer. I think it's probably a bit much, but if it becomes a legal issue it could affect Cover's ability to get visas for everyone.
>>87086177But she can't go home until visa issues are solved
>>87083035>Ina is not graduatingAIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WE WERE TOO QUICK ON THE TRIGGER DRAMASISSIES!! WE NEED TO GO BACK TO TWITTER NOW
>>87083035But why the fuck can't she use twitter on her phone?Why does the manager have to take control over her twitter? Something ain't right.
>>87085014Wait for a few more hours, Kiara will definitely get some juicy info from Ina and will try to tell us about it
>>87084613Jesus's, youre saying a lot of nothing.She's a freelance worker that can get a long stay VISA in Japan, she has the financials.
>>87086250I'd be mad about that. She seems to be unhappy about that.
>>87083113Your oshi will graduate tranny
>>87086177but holos don't get visas with cover's papers or did they change the story since I last watched them? I mean I get that the story can get muddled with all the pets/relatives dying and geriatric chronic rare health issues striking every month, but come on...
>>87086297Humiliation ritual
>>87083035Suuuuure
>>87086327Humiliation ritual
>>87086317If they're getting a work visa they'll need sponsorship from the company. I have no idea what they've said. I only know how work visas have affected me.
>>87086327Hazukashii nigger
>>87086270>long stay VISA in Japan,>freelance workerDo you even know what kind of visas Japan has? What specific visa are you talking about? And define long
>>87086271Especially in Japan where Korean are seen as the blacks of her heritage. Hopefully she lucks out and finds someone who'll be willing to work with her without the prejudice. Because if not it could take months.
>>87084613It's just bad bureaucracy, I had a contract where I worked 6 months in one country and 6 months in another once and my Visa was set to expire while I was back home. My employer told me they'd take care of it, assumed the renewal process was started, it expired, I got turned away at the airport, they felt dumb and I got to spend an extra 4 months at home while still getting paid and some intern probably got chewed out. It's a meeting of international law and corporate bureaucracy, I'm frankly impressed anyone can get a work Visa to begin with.
>>87083035Funny that this happened a few days after she finished playing Papers Please
>>87086637oh god…
>>87085299>the industry isn't all veibae clones doing hottub fleshtuber streamsNta but I feel like the perception of normal viewers outside vtubing just see vtubers as ethots due to the sheer amount of indies and their actions on twitch making the vtuber brand/tag feel trashed.
>>87083035What company logistical issues prevent you from twitterposting? I am legitimately curious.
>>87086637Ina is not like Jorji
>>87086752Holo twitter accounts are work accounts. She's technically currently not employed with cover so
>>87086637jorjina...
>>87083099>What's next ? Another senzawa thread ? Or another dooby thread ?This isn't reddit, I'm sorry your feelings are hurt but no one cares about your ideas on those vtubers.
>>87086854So she's negotiating her contract and hasn't reached an agreement yet.
Based holo managers focusing on important issues such as getting a collab with Doki and Holostars while choking on their dicks and not menial, irrelevant problems such as taking care of legal papers for the hololive talents <3
>>87086752It feels like it's just to avoid having their mistake be shown since it might not look good that she can post on twitter but can't stream for some 'unknown reason' beyond her control(which would subtly make people believe it's management fault), as evidenced by their twitter account immediately posting an official statement after Ina posted her grievances.
>>87086637I hope someone takes the time to mock up papers for her in the game's art style.
>>87086897Are you retarded?She's in a foreign country working for a foreign corpo without having a working Visa. That has nothing to do with her contract.
>>87086422>Do you even know what kind of visas Japan has?Yes. A long stay visa lasts 270 days and is required to hold employment in the country. You can see all the information on Japan's official government website
>>87086926Have the girls managers reach a director position or higher in management? If no then shut the fuck up
>>87086971For a non issue the other talents seems to be acting weird about it. I could have sworn other talents having a week break or even a month doesn't attract such an attention from them.https://x.com/hakosbaelz/status/1843943080191565885
https://x.com/hakosbaelz/status/1843943080191565885>https://x.com/hakosbaelz/status/1843943080191565885https://x.com/hakosbaelz/status/1843943080191565885>https://x.com/hakosbaelz/status/1843943080191565885
>>87087210Tbh bae is a retard who probably never watched the terminator so she probably doesn't get the gif
>>87083035>Logistical issuesWhat does this meanYou don't need to manage any supply chain for vtubers to stream?
>>87087059You didn't say what kind of visa lol. Also there's no 270 days visa kek
>>87086752It's like game perms, if Ina doesn't have the approval from cover to go through with her work account she might get sued by cover for blatant misuse of official company assets.
>>87087018you don't have to be in Japan to tweet
>>87087347A better question is why put backend work to talents who is supposed to be the frontfacing side of the company.
>>87087492>Holo twitter accounts are work accounts
>>87083301Literally everyone is blaming cover for fucking up her visa, what are you on about?
>>87087513could you rephrase this into english? maybe you should write it in your native language and use deepl.
>>87087347Cover fucked up on renewing Ina's work visa so she can't legally work in JP. Unfortunately Ina was in JP when the visa expired so now she's there illegally. Cover now has to unfuck her visa issue so she's not banned from the country for the next 5 to 10 years.
>>87087635What did she tried so hard and fought for? The wording seems passive aggressive and the immediate response from en management seems suspect.
PUT ME IN THE VIDEO SCHIZO PARROT
>>87087210>other talents>one single one who was off collabing
>visaHow do you guys know that?Why would being in a different country prevent her from streaming or tweeting?
>>87087788Who is also in japan and was close to what happened.
>>87087732>can we solve it before the devour collabno>at least before 7DTDno> :(She was involved with a shit ton of projects this week.
>>87087732Probably because she's pissed her visa renewal got passed off to some uncaring intern and now she's risking banishment from the weeb holy land.
>>87087839She'll get in trouble with Cover a japanese company.
>>87087900Since when does holoen have to be in Japan to do a normal stream?
When I worked overseas my Visa only had to be valid on entry, is that not the case in Japan? It had a maximum stay duration listed but as long as I was within it I could leave with an expired Visa just fine. I can buy that she's not allowed to work but I doubt she's actually stranded there. This is such a common occurrence when you travel.
>>87087839If anyone snitches on her the nippon equivalent of ICE will come for her ass.
>>87087868Didn't a similar issue pop up with Mori too? I mean it's simply game perms much simpler than visa but whoever handled it didn't even do anything even after Mori did her part.
so once again we wait for kiara to yap out what's actually happening
>>87086297their oshi is drama, so I sure hope so
>>87087986How does this make any sense. Even without traveling to japan or having a visa in the past they were able to stream just fine and tweet whenever they want.
>>87083035Cover is good and I will defend the company until my dying breath
>>87088121>Ina >Streamkek sounds like a bunch of excuses
>>87087986since she can't even leave right now she might have accidentally overstayed after being told by cover that it's fine. It's all just speculation outside of "visa issues" tho.
>>87087732maybe she still wanted to be able to tweet/interact even if it wasn't fully legal
>>87088002So when streamers go to nip for vacation but then also stream and collect supas that's illegal?
kumomane...
>>87088121That was before they were legally in Japan under a work visaIf you're inside the country with an expired work visa and they catch you doing work, you're not only gonna get deported and your future application will get auto rejected for a number of years, but your employer will also get into legal troubleFucking dumb of cover to not be on top of this, and now they're scrambling
>>87087839If she had a work Visa which expired, she's technically not allowed to be in Japan. Her streaming and tweeting would count as work. Thus, they have to lock her out until the Visa issues get resolved.
>>87087986I haven't dealt with Japan, but elsewhere you can apply for extensions. This was done by handing everything over to a third party who handled getting it done. If this was a similar case, Cover was already late, and then there were issues I can see how things would get fucked.
>>87088249She saw through the unnecessary bullshit and fought hard but failed. Manager san is Ina now
This is mumei and logan paul's fault
> days pass> no update from cover> the visa agent tells her they don’t care if she works from the airport as long as she doesn’t leave the grounds> at a loss, she sets up her streaming environment in a back room the airport staff let her use and gets back to her routine > months pass like this> she becomes known as the airport vtuber> cover inexplicably still hasn’t resolved the issue> some of the other girls come to the airport to do offcollabs > years pass> newspapers seek interviews with her> the movie rights are sold (cover takes its cut)> she’s the last member of myth still streaming> north korea finally agrees to take her in
>>87088121>>87087950>>87087492You fucking retards, she's in Japan *right now*, potentially illegally if Cover fucked up her visa renewal completely and it has already expired. If she manages to leave Japan until the issue is fully resolved, then she'll be able to stream/tweet again. She's angry because of Cover's incompetence/Japan's bureaucracy, the time and money she'll waste for this, and the fact she will miss planned streams/projects she has, especially since she was expecting to stay in Japan for another 3 months.
>>87088339What did Vegeta do to Florida?
>>87086752there arent anythey are lying like always
>>87088376Ina is now Viktor Navorski
>>87088389Vegeta tried and fought really hard but failed to beat Milton
>>87088323If they can ghost talents game perms they can ghost visa requests. From bottom to up their attitude shows.
>>87085014Based Wawa keeping us informed, she was always one of us
>>87088245i'm sure a lawyer could word that to be the case.then again, maybe streamelements/labs is a loophole
>>87083035Medizine is for goat
>>87088524kek
>>87088476must be nice for them, Anyways the longer this goes unaddressed within the company especially for their talents there's bound to be issues.
>>87088524Cookie is for goat, not tako, for goat
Lol logistical issues
>>87083035This is why Fauna hates japan
>>87086327Fuck you we love Shaka san here
>>87087732>The wording seems passive aggressiveThat is sus but she's also half canadian so who knows.
>>87088524>>87088382>>87088376At the very least some airports in Japan have privacy booths/rooms etc, although I doubt Ina would be comfortable streaming from one of those on a laptop or something. however Cover itself owns Ina as the IP and technically she is used to pilot Cover's property, so it's kind of hard to say she's not actually working in Japan when she's operating assets owned by a company on Japanese soil etc.
>>87088382This
>>87083035Aww man.
>>87083035>company account has to post nowWell she fucked up by posting this publicly. This is exactly what they were trying to avoid.
Eight after Ame left because of retarded management, kek
>>87088832That's not new, she even mentioned staff should help talents in her talk stream.
Sana saw this brewing and said nothing.
>Hey guys due to a visa related issue I will be absent for about a week while I travel. Sorry!this is what a normal human would write if they were actually having a visa problem.
>>87089011Weird where's the fighting hard part go?
>>87088823covercuck sucker
>>87089011Thank God you don't work for a public company.
>>87086368God Finana really fucked herself she use to get easily 1k+ every stream for her first year
>>87086096Tweeting can be a job (or part of your job responsibilities) if you’re a social media manager. You’d literally get paid for tweeting.If her contract says something about posting on the company-provided social media accounts, it could be legally treated as a job, so they might not want to allow it to stay on the safe side.But still, they could have just said it’s a visa issue so I don’t have to go to 4chan to find out.
>>87089296yea the shares would divebomb if everyone knew that a bitch had to take a couple days off for a plane ride rather than imply she's fighting the company and/or government over their fuckup
>>87089055that was honestly unnecessary in the original post. If she didn't want to mention the visa part she could have even just substituted it with "travel/accommodation related issues"
>>870893524chan: the best source of vtuber news
>>87089396>this girl is working illegally for us because we are retards and might have worked illegally for us for months!>we are breaking the law btwHave fun
>>87083113what does pekora have to do with this? absolutely rent free
>>87089407it was necessary because she's not allowed to say she's in contract negotiations. kiara talks about her visa all the time.>>87089442where did you get the working illegally for months thing from? did you see that in a dream?
So what did Ina get suspended for?
>>87089481where did you see contract negotiations? did you see that in a dream?
>>87083105>Then why all the damage control?Ame had a graduation less than 2 weeks ago and now Ina is locked out of her Hololive accounts because of "logistical issues" and that she "really fought hard for it". That does seem extremely fishy and why even state that her work account is now under the control of her manager if this issue will get solved next week? Gura was refusing to shill her anniversary merch until Cover had to release it with a tweet so there is a lot of stuff that is going on behind the scenes. After those long health break suspensions in late 2022 where Ina and Gura went radio silent for months it does feel suspicious. I am sure that we are going to get an official story from management but I am taking everything with a grain of salt.
>>87089481Her Visa expired. Was it exactly today or maybe yesterday? We may never know!
>>87088823She should have stayed fucking silent, if there's an issue she can't solve with management it's not her fans duty to do anything about it. For fuck sake just being quiet would have avoided all this fucking shit mess.
>>87089518i inferred it based on the horrifically awkward wording of her tweet.>>87089537she could just say that if that were the case.
>>87089559>we broke the law lmaooo>look at this shareholders aren't we so cool!
>>87083035>company's interal logistical issueswtf does that even mean.
>>87089590nobody broke the law. what are you talking about?
>>87089590I mean if nijisanji can get away with drugging livers, hiding numbers and more to their shareholders, surely hololive can do the same for something less.
Legal mindset next grift
>>87087765go jerk off your talentless ecelebs on twitter you faggot
>>87089655Working in Japan for a Japanese company without a Visa is actually illegal.>>87089676You know maybe setting up a precedent for this stuff is not the smartest idea.
I love the Ina and I shall wait for her return.
>>87087765Unlikely there's been too many events in /vt/ that happened lately.
>>87089727ah i see you are retarded. when a person says >my visa is expiring so i gotta take a week off!that does not mean that it expired months ago and ther person was working illegally for months. a normal human without brain damage would read it and say "oh her visa is expiring soon" not "wow she worked illegally for months" like you are implying. that would simply be retarded and illogical.
>>87089687Imagine that, a legal youtuber making a video about an issue with working laws, who the fuck does he think he is?
>>87089834I'm sure he's googling right now so he can be a pretend expert.
>>87089791There would be less and less vr streams like this in the future without someone like ame who can fight for approval within management.
>>87089834>actual grifting mindset simpkekaroo
so many retards making wild speculation when she used her roommate's twitter to say it was a visa issue.
>>87089834Japanese laws isn't his specialty.
She was finally suspended for offending the fighting community 2 years ago. Finally justice!
>>87089882I'm pretty sure they can do VR chat streams whenever
>>87089915Very important fact to note. Simply mentioning the visa matter in the official account would have painted management badly and make them be labeled as incompetent in supporting their talents, especially with how fast they responded using the company account to Ina's tweet.
What an animal
>>87090089not sure if you're aware but visas are distributed by the government
>>87089535This.Don't get how Anons here make it out as nothingburger when they actually locked her out of her accounts.If it was Visa related then there would be no reason for them to do that, unless she gone full menhera and tried to do something stupid over it.
>>87089963Project permission, asset permission, sounds permission, 3D modeler and Designer procurement, vr chat permission etc... Sounds like alot of unnecessary requests to be made for simple vr streams.
>>87090241Ao did a basic VR chat stream today and didn't need half that shit
If she would marry a nice ojisan this wouldn't ever be a problem. Why Ina why...
>>87090285she's japanese
>>87086096lol imagine being a fucking SEA shitter
>>87090199>if it was Visa related then there would be no reason for them to do thatYes there is a reason. Doing anything as Ina is work > She is in japan without a work visa (anymore) > Doing any work while in japan would be illegal.I don't know what's so hard to understand.
>>87083035I don't know what is going on but this is really breaking my kayfabe immersion. What the fuck
>>87083035>something happens>holo antis pop up out of the woodworks spammingGura was right.
>>87090199we're making it out as a nothingburger because while you're spazzing about about not knowing the details we checked her roommate's account where she suddenly felt like tweeting about how much she loves her VISA credit card.
I never imagined Ina would be the one to break the law.Next time I see her she is going to have prison tattoos
>>87087018If her Visa isn't working can't she just switch to MasterCard or something?
>>87090294that ojisan? me
>>87090368>>87089011
>>87090199With all the lies that Cover threw out in the weeks before they fired Magni and Vesper I don't know why anyone believes anything Cover says when they lock a talent out of their work accounts. That doesn't mean that Ina will be terminated but there it's never a good sign when a talent is suddenly unable to use any of their work accounts.
>>87086265anon... you are simply retarded
>>87090437She's becoming such a bad girl...
>>87090451First, japanese company phrasingSecond, she said that as directly as she could, elsewhere
>>87090383What, to not stream?
>>87089011>oh no my anime girl didn't use words short and succent in a way that I wantholy shit you people are actually mentally ill. You genuinely can't fathom being anyone but yourself.
>>87090513kiara and other holos have talked about visa problems without awkward damage control before.
>>87083580this is basically how it works everywhere in the world. work visas isn't some new thing lol and if you lose your employment you have to go back because why the fuck would they give you unemployment benefits if you're not even a citizen or anything?
>>87090528Hello Ban vtuber memes. Still seething?
>>87090437Hot.
>>87090368Tweeting isn't work though.I know Japanese Laws are batshit insane but I doubt that they are that insane that using Twitter which you can do from anywhere would cause Issues. But I understand that they might want to avoid worsening it.Anyway, then what she did was to spill the beans instead of posting "Oh no something came up and I will be gone for a week. Sorry" and got suspended for it. Could still end up in a graduation or termination.
INA IS AN ILLEGALI'M AN ILLEGAL WE ARE
What is happening to Myth? I'm scared
>>87090725GOING BACK
>>87085793As subtle as a brick kek
>>87088376Movie when
>>87090461Anons are in cope mode. The only time Cover took over a talent's accounts before were the two homos during contract negotiations. If her visa expired and they were unable to renew it they would just say she was having a legal issue, not "fighting hard" and "unable to talk about it" lol. There's absolutely no need for damage control over government bureaucracy that's out of their control. The damage control combined with account takeover means they stopped sponsoring her visa because of contract negotiations and they don't want people to know about it because that's messed up.
Abe should have mended Visa requirementsWe need to get Japanese women impregnated fast
fucking Gura should graduate already
>>87090768it's over, anon. Gura is next.
>>87090725GETTING DEPORTED
>>87090837But Ina is Canadian korean
>>87090898>>87090892You said that then Ame happened and now this with Ina. Just admit you have tunnel vision only for Gura. It will make you more happy.
>>87083035I can't believe Ayame sabotaged Ina so she would be terminated! Does her hatred toward Koreans know no end!?
>>87090830or you know, they maybe are very sensitive right now about any perceived vulnerabilities about a Myth coming up within about a week of losing one of their members and want to double-triple reassure everyone that it's not a planned or intended absence, the solution is being worked on and they're being extra-transparent about it. and yet all you want to do is cite that transparency for being something wrong. we've thought management has been posting on gura's account for years too and she's still there (even if technically). it's not the same as the homos thing, although that in of itself was a very very strange chain of events I highly doubt they'd give Ina the Vesper treatment. they specifically said they had problems with vesper vs management before and suspended him for it before.
Ina is not graduation in the same way that Ame didn't graduate.
I can't believe is suffering that incurable disease, ligma
>>87083035>Internal logistical issuesIt's basically saying that they are unable to provide ina with streaming equipment or any equipment which allows her to use her cover accounts while she's not on her home. She only got her personal phone. What does logistical problem mean to you retards?
This would have been such a nothingburger if Ina didn't weird post while still worked up. She should have taken a couple hours to rethink what she wanted to tweet.
>>87089535Ame didn't graduate
>>87091155ESL
>>87091305hahahahaha
>>87091296Nah, calling management a giant sack of shit ruining all her plans in public is the most based thing she could have done
>>87089676>drugging liversNiji didn't drug anyone>hiding numbers and moreThey don't. Hololive does though but deliberately hiding the profit of EN by merging EN into JP
>>87091063If they're sensitive why would they have her post a weird passive aggressive vaguepost instead of the very straightforward truth that there's a minor legal problem that requires her to take a short break for travel? Anyone with half a brain can see how bad that tweet looks compared to what could be a single concise sentence explaining the issue.
>>87091459This. Shit happens all the time and get mentioned in public. She was stoking the fire with that tweet.
>>87091063>I highly doubt they'd give Ina the Vesper treatmentThe Magni treatment then
>>87091459evidently ina is actually-mad, I never said she wasn't. but the company is trying to tell us it's not a big deal. however because it's so unusual for management to talk to the public directly it's also causing kind of a streisand effect because they usually never put up a "nothing to see here move along" tweet. but the thing is, even for huge problems in the company in the past, they never did try that either and a big [sad news] graduation would just plop onto our faces out of the blue. this communication from them existing doesn't actually trend with past graduations like, at all.
>>87090830Why do you think every issue in Hololive is because of contract negotiations? Negotiations would've been handled 2-3 months ago.
>>87086926what collab? I haven't seen any so far
>>87091583Because an account lockout literally only happened before due to contract negotiations.
>>87089011badmouthing the japanese immigration system isn't allowed
>>87090121But companies take care of their employees work-related visas usually. Employees provide information to the company lawyers and they do the rest of paperwork for you.
>>87090725Aliens
Mori's RM is having a meltdown!!!!
>>87083035Jesus Christ, my heart dropped.When Ina graduates, I'll kill myself
>"I fought real hard">Ina played Papers Please to throw shade at retarded Japanese ImmigrationBased
>>87083035Sounds like its money related, they are refusing to pay her due to some legal or employment issue and so she is refusing to do her job till they fix it.Shit like this happens now and then
>>87085793lmao
>>87086637>FunnyMore like her ongoing struggles with immigration was the reason why she suddenly played an old-ass game like that out of nowhere.
>>87083255Because doing those things are her J O B, this isn't her personal account.
>>87091963>Sounds likeNigger get your ears checked and stop spouting ridiculously stupid nonsense.
>>87091459>vaguepost instead of the very straightforward truthvtubers dont like telling the truth because that would be parasocialso they are vague or just straight up lie about basically everything
>>87083255How the actual fuck are you this retarded dude?
>>87083113>this is the physique of the average anon calling you a femcel for liking anime boys
>>87092072nigs like you too
>>87091566Is not a big deal to them cus all the money ina is wasting and will continue to waste won't be reimbursed to her
>>87092057Kiara had to leave Japan because of an expiring visa before and didn't get locked out of her accounts by management after having a weird meltdown.
>>87091838Freelancers are not employees of a company. They are called freelancers for a reason
Whoever is in the wrong on the visa falling through the cracks, Ina going to get a bit of a scolding for that tweet.
>>87091539>Idiot pretending he has all the answers is actually fucking retardedWhy is this so common? Why act with such authority when you don't even know the most basic shit?
>>87090699I know that retards like you would instantly post about it online if you just discovered that you are illegally in a country because your visa expired and then be surprised when officials would get involved before it can be sorted out silently, but not everyone is born stupid.
>>87092142Kiara is not a weirdo Korean bitch
>>87092175Sister, the shit they pull at Niji isn't normal, stop pretending it is.
>>87092175Yes, by me. I am the Scolding Officer
>>87092142Different era, this is the more restrictive Cover after what happened with Rushia and Mel.
>>87092142>You see, this square is the same shape as this sea urchinPC really isn't sending their best today.
>>87092288It's literally the same exact situation.
>>87092360>A visa expiring is the same as your work visa not being extendedWhy. Why would you go full retard? You know you're not supposed to do that, right?
>>87089613Japanese companies + Japanese government work very very slooooowLike months between submitting paperwork (no email) and getting what you want,
>>87092142Yes, difference is Kiara left japan. Ina is in Japan right now and is not allowed to work there. There wouldn't be an issue if she was at home.
>>87090491Absolutely built
>>87092409Do you not understand what "expiring" means?
Fubuki/Ina double graduation soon
>>87092489>Uhmm.. uhhh... Oh fuck I can't keep up?? Maybe he's misunderstanding the concept of expiring I don't know?!Anon. Stop. You're so far beyond full retard it's not even funny anymore. Stop fucking sperging out and just fucking google how visas work before you say another god damn thing on the topic, holy fuck.
>>87092543>A visa expiring is completely different from a visa expiringGreat bait worthy of another (You).
>>87087765kill yourself
>>87084613thanks. this makes the most sense to me
>>87092503What happened with Fubuki?
>>87089613Can mean a number of thing since it's basically just a standard notification that someone somewhere fucked something up without assigning specific blame. Some examples:>Misfiled paperwork>Made a mistake filling in paperwork>Forgot to file paperwork>Immigration is being much slower than usual in approving paperwork>The fax machine brokeAnd dozens more possibilities like it. Doesn't even have to be Cover's fault (I get the impression migration fucked up, which is why she played Papers Please last week, but that's just my impression)
Retards here think cover can simply hand out visa like presents. What happen was ina told cover about her visa cover filled all the paperwork but the Japanese government let it slip through the cracks because she's Korean.
>>87092619Who are you talking to anon? Did you read up on what visas are yet? You haven't, have you? Why are you still talking about something you've already proven to know nothing about instead of just looking it up? It takes like 10 fucking minutes to stop yourself from being an utter moron and you can't even manage that?
>>87092682Nothing, Fubuki is like the mining canary of Cover as a company, a lot of people believe that if Fubuki leaves it's all over for Cover, as Fubuki will leave if the company does something bad.
>>87084613>She can't leave the airport or board a plane until it's resolvedNani the fuck? How long could it take to resolve? Hope the airport has like hotels or something cause that is going to suuuuck. Hopefully this isn't like that situation from that one Tom Hanks movie
>>87092619nta but Kiara was not in the same situation as Ina is right now. Kiara didn't wanted to have her visa extended and planned to leave Japan, meanwhile Ina's visa for some reason was not extended on time despite her clearly having plans to stay in Japan
>>87092735I'm talking to a troll or an ESL with an insane ego. Not entirely sure.
gotta love overweight morons who dont know anything talking to other overweight morons who THINK they know things
>>87092198Thanks for explaining why Ina is indeed stupid
>>87092828In both cases the visa was ending and they legally had to leave the country. But only one was forcibly locked out of her accounts.
>>87092814That anon is full of shit, you do not need a visa to get a ticket out of the country. She can literally leave any time she wants especially if her visa expired. If anything Ina wants to delay her departure as much as possible in hopes that her visa gets sorted and she can go back to the things she was planning on doing in the first place, since flying back and forth is annoying and expensive.
Did /vt/ finally learn how to be subtle with their trolling or are there really this many retards here?
>>87092788I think she would rather end the company herself before it turns to the dark side
>>87092832>Tell someone to learn the basic facts of a topic>"U-ur le trolle">"U haev to heav insane ego to think ur smartr den me!!"Anon. Why are you so scared to find out more about the topic?
>>87092886The reason for that is that Ina still has work to do in Japan. She can't go home immediately like Kiara did after the fact and have access to her account again.
>>87092886I don't know for sure but sounds like Ina has a work visa through her company while Kiara's wasn't
>>87092489Look, anon, NTA but there is a big difference between Kiara and Ina's cases. In Kiara's case, her visa was expiring and she left Japan. She never worked in Japan without a valid work visa.In Ina's case, her visa already expired by now and yet she is and will still be stuck in Japan for another week for god know why reason. She is likely on tourist / visit pass right now and isn't allowed to work in Japan
>>87093019>In Ina's case, her visa already expired by nowSource?
>>87092908The latter.
>>87093053No source anon, she just stopped working because she really hates you specifically and three masked men will come to remove you permanently so she can get back to work.
shit-tier black company
>>87093146Actually she isn't working because she got locked out of her accounts and has to fly home.
What is the internal logistics issue? I'm so confused
>>87093053That's the speculation people have been going with. Do you have any better explanation / guess for why she is locked out of her work accounts just for the remaining duration of her stay in Japan, then? Why else will she be able to use them all again the day she is back home in Canada next week?
>>87093199And why did that happen anon? Was it perhaps related to her work visa being expired? Nah, of course not, this all happened because she wore a funny hat and insulted the ghost of Shinzo Abe with her worst pun so now nobody in Japan can tolerate her presence and she had to be suspended :^)
>>87093275>SpeculationLol. Do your reps newfag.
>>87093288>>87092142
>>87093340>Kiara left before her visa expired>Ina did not>"Hurrrr durrr y are dese difurnt"Are you done clowning or was this just the warmup act?
>>87093402>>87093053
>>87083459kys phasecuck
>>87093437>>87093146I see, so you just wish to keep going full retard.
she should marry an American soldier so she can get on base and stream from there. All American bases are technically American soil so she wont have visa problems there. I volunteer to help her out and I will even consummate the marriage
>>87093465Sorry if you are confused, I just want to understand how you know that her visa expired. You are so confident to the point that you are insulting people for questioning how you know that so surely you can provide a source for your claim.
>>87093546>How do you know her visa expired>>87093334
>>87092098>vtubers dont like telling the truthHololive has a strict NDA and when Ina told viewers she didn't like revealing outfits she was given a 3 month health break suspension. It's obvious that she never wanted to be a lewd vtuber with a skimpy outfit and that is why Myth has so many issues with management.
>>87093572I'm asking how you know it already expired rather than is expiring soon, which would be the same situation that Kiara was in.
>>87089699You're just mad you're not in the video.
>>87093503How is Kadena these days?
I'm currently dealing with the Japanese visa system so I think that makes me an expert on the subject.Just wanted to say, even if Ina's visa expired, she's probably still fine to be in the country. She just can't work - something that wouldn't be verified by anyone but the typical Japanese mentality would be to never do something that could potentially turn into a bigger problem than it needs to be.I'm technically in Japan on a visa that's no longer valid but the government doesn't care because I'm applying for a new one. They don't care as long as I'm making an effort to get a new one, but in the meantime, it would technically be illegal to do any work.
>>87093606>Why is it different???>"Here's why it's different">HOW DO YOU KNOW IT'S THAT AND NOT.... I DUNNO WHAT ELSE ITS THE SAME IT MEANS SOMETHING BUT I DONT KNOW WHAT BUT ITS NOT THE THING IT OBVIOUSLY IS BECAUSE HOW DO YOU KNOOOOOOWWWWChrist anon, you got some serious issues.
>>87093340>>87093437>>87093546>Anon never learned how to use basic logic to connect points together despite having all the info and repeating them over and overIf this isn't bait, I'm really sorry for you anon
>>87093765A work visa expiring also doesn't ever lead to immediate deportation, you get time to appeal (can't work in that time) or request a new work visa (for example if you found different employment)
>>87093334I'm not going to bother with any ddoxshit if that's what you were implying. If she already explicitly said that there is visa issue on stream and I missed it then sure, even better now that we have confirmation from Ina.Ultimately, it's not like this is a big deal anyway - Cover fucked up, Ina was frustrated, but this kind of things will pass in a week.
It's because she is a blue check and Elon pays Hololive for using twitter
>>87093840>I want to know>But I don't want to actually knowCool story faggot, now fuck off.
>>87091884They look just like us...
Imagine working for a Japanese corpo lol
>>87093769I never asked "why is it different". I'm asking how you know that her visa has already expired rather than will soon expire. You are claiming that Ina somehow forgot her legal status and overstayed which is a pretty serious thing to come up with out of the blue. How do you know that happened?
>>87093840Cuck mentality, but when something happens at Niji you will rile and seetheFucking holodrones
>>87093882I'm not the guy who was saying he wanted to know, anon. I'm the one replied to him and whom he was replying to (>>87093019 (me)).
>>87093933Imagine believing non-Japanese corpos are any better. Corpos are corpos, nigger, you'd know if you worked a day in your life.
>>87093997American neets should shut the fuck upAll Niggers
>>87093970>I keep bringing up Kiaras situation but I'm not asking why it's different okay?!?>It's a pretty serious thing!!>I think???Lol. Still making shit up on the fly are you?
>>87093986Niji fucked their "livers" up, sister. This shouldn't cause any lasting issue. I will shit on cover if it does
>>87094033American corpos are second only to places like Qatar though, but yes neets should keep the fuck out of any conversation regarding employment.
>>87094042Temporary workers know how long they are allowed to stay in the country and base their whole living situation around it. You're claiming that she simply forgot how long she was allowed to stay there, then broke the law overstaying, which is a ridiculous thing to say without proof. I just want to know how you know that.
>>87094105>You're claiming that she simply forgot how long she was allowed to stay there>Look mom I'm lying again!Lol.
I thought Japan was supposed to be a utopia, did the weebs lie to me?
>>87094182So you think she deliberately overstayed? It's one or the other. And the other is at least plausible.
>>87094253>It's one or the other!!>S-surely!Lol.
>>87094302Yes. You said her visa already expired and she is still in Japan. That would mean either she forgot or she deliberately broke the law.The alternative would be that her visa did not expire yet, but will expire soon, which is why she has to leave. Which is what I claimed is the most likely situation. And also the same thing that happened to Kiara.
>>87094201It's great to visit.Living here has its positives but there's quite a bit I hate about it (or am just not used to yet?). Like anywhere in the world, there's pros and cons.
what a black company lol instead of being transparent they keep lying
>>87094528Japanese companies are never honest when doing that would damage their reputation. At least in that area Hololive and Nijisanji are exactly the same.
>>87088249anon, please fix your fonts, spare your eyes
>>87094396>Yes. You said her visa already expired and she is still in Japan. That would mean either she forgot or she deliberately broke the law.Lol. Hot damn imagine actually being this retarded.
