Friday Edition >What is /lig/?/lig/ is a thread for viewers to find, share, and discuss indie vtubers who have on average 500 viewers or more.>Why /lig/?Large indie vtubers have more net fans, but they are outnumbered by 2views by the thousands. This is a thread for the VIP, regardless of what language they stream on.>Can I shill my 499view oshi here?Considering averages fluctuate widely, all the way down to 100 is reasonable. The minimal requirement however is being Twitch partner or the YouTube equivalent in numbers.Numbers for 10/9:1: https://twitch.tv/filian (7,064)2: https://twitch.tv/vei (3,367)3: https://twitch.tv/SquChan (2,815) *Tie3: https://twitch.tv/OliviaMonroe (2,788) *Tie5: https://twitch.tv/CottontailVA (2,694)6: https://twitch.tv/daph (2,439)7: https://twitch.tv/HalO_Sweety (2,284)8: https://twitch.tv/chibidoki (2,055) *Tie9: https://twitch.tv/LaynaLazar (1,976)10: https://twitch.tv/LucyPyre (1,791) *Tie10: https://twitch.tv/KittyfluteVT (1,773) *TieNon-English:1: https://twitch.tv/akamikarubi (4,024) *Japanese2: https://twitch.tv/Kamito_JP (3,761) *Japanese3: https://twitch.tv/KSPKSP (3,492) *Chinese>Wait isn't that one a corpo?/lig/ is a thread for chuubas of a decent size who aren't defined by their corporate branding, either due to the small size of the corporation, lack of brand cohesion, or the independence and lack of oversight granted to the talents>/lig/ Numbershttps://lignumbers.neocities.org/>Twitch Clips Guidehttps://pastelink.net/34vd5>VOD Archival Guidehttps://rentry.org/Vod_Archival_Guide>/lig/ VOD Archivehttps://rentry.org/Indie_Vod_Archives_lig>Koikatsu cards (SEEEEEEEEEX)https://mega.nz/folder/JYtkXJwL#07gAQCQqI_9FsmX9oQJKSA>/lig/ Wheel of Nameshttps://wheelofnames.com/49w-z2x>Tiermakerhttps://tiermaker.com/create/-lig--16586688-3>/lig/ Chuuba Birthday Calendar (WIP)https://www.canva.com/design/DAE-XgWodVg/ofLz4QC1yPPQ4T6TTAE0fw/edit?utm_content=DAE-XgWodVg>Upcoming BirthdaysOctober 14th - MissPeggyOctober 18th - SquchanOctober 21st - GrapeOctober 24th - Batat & YUY_IX>OC material for the OPhttps://mega.nz/folder/IIVD1IaJ#cfsRhWdJvzneIoG8HZUPuw>Ducks(embed) https://www.twitch.tv/dashducks (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed) Other useful threads:>>>/vt//wvt/>>>/vt//corpo/>>>/vt//flip/>>>/vt//haha/>>>/vt//indie/>>>/vt//mint/>>>/vt//swarm/>>>/vt//vrt/>>>/vt//vsj+/Previous Thread: >>87219731
it's monday RETARTD
mmm
https://www.twitch.tv/silvervaleLove my wolf wifeShe's live yapping before playing some horror games!
I love my cute, horny and bratty sex fox. I LOVE HER SO MUCH! Erm!>>87229160nuh uh
https://x.com/ChongusDongus/status/1844541283219517889This is probably the worst one so far. Disappointing angle, really.
Saruei is retarded and has a midgets pussy
I love Lucy
shontoes
>>87229186It's Monday
Uuuu no Vesper
Good news! My door got fixed! Lumi is live!Bad news! The fat bumblebee ran headfirst into my open window somehow and flew away, completely missing the glass of squash I made for it!
>>87229196I don't have a Twitter so I will assume this is a picture of white girl ass
>>87229252>>87229284Autism
Schizo be like:
bro is gonna make "traitor" get the tabs treatment
>>87229215can you make her bigger
>>87229333I miss this model I hope lamia Juni is fluffy
I didn't know that Starship Troopers got a video game.
womp womp
>NOOOOOOOOO you can use threads I don't like! *shits and pisses himself*
>>87229395Helldivers? It went to shit for a while but I hear it's getting better
shut the fuck up anny
>87229012I would help him eat the "cancer" out of her. Even if she had none, but still just to be sure.
>>87229469No there's an actual starship troopers game now or something
eel
Happy Monday lig I blub my oshi!
>>87229468It do be like that.
Filian is a wonderful person who is worthy of love and support
>>87229526>NOOOOOOOOOOO you can't steal images from here and post them in threads i don't like!
>>87229532I like Filian! I like her penis!
>>87229525What's on the schedule for today??
how does one steal an image?
big fan of chud rabbit
>>87229627Save it when no one is looking.
You guys getting enough vitamin D?
>>87229585There's a waiting room up for sh2
>>87229637Which one
>>87229637>bigHeh
>>87229627You know that meme with the stripping banana? You don't ask for permission when you save it.
>>87229674Man kind of hope she just speed runs it more because she's already technically played the game and I'm good on silent hill after like 15 hours of it
>>87229627This is a 1/1 original bat that I own and only I am allowed to post it, saving it or reposting is literally theft
>>87229761>posted my own image and I never post thereAlright you can just drop any pretense you're just a fag
>>87229196What's his problem?
>>87229850It looks like she has massive milker just off screen in this image
holding Kitanya’s hand and giving her a peck on the cheek!
I wonder if traitor schizo is the same guy that came into /BIG/ during the first day or two and kept swearing to destroy it. He left after I told him he was bumping the thread. Looks like he finally snapped.
>>87229736The franch one
>>87229943>imagine
>>87229869he has seen things
>>87229982No I mean "big" as a joke to what is happening here lol
>>87229970what if you had a post it note that said dum on it and when you put it on the forehead of a pinkcat poster their brains got actually dumber haha
>>87229869He can smell it
>>87230042too small
>>87229970Possibly
>>87229970That makes sense pink bro. I hope you have a nice cum.
frogfags should be killed at this point this isn't funny anymore
>>87230042Saru wishes she had tits this big
>>87230062I know I meant to reply to the other guy
>>87229970Pinkposter has betrayed us for bigger things, it's over
>>87230151why are such a little bitch? fuck off you obsessed little cuck
>>87230151What made you the kind of person to literally wish death upon others
vtubers for this feel?
>>87230151
>>87230229hoooly bubblegut!
>>87230229GOLEM GET YE GONE
you can time how long it takes him to reset his router kek
>>87229970It's very likely the same schizo spammer that has blessed all our related threads with compulsive behavior of all sorts for a long time now. He pretends to be on all sides of all issues. It's all bait.
>>87230361based eternal oneguy
>>87229485What's she whining about today?
>>87230229A rare untainted orc!
>>87229970I love you, pinkposter
Moooooooom
>reeeeeeeeeee!
>>87230229who likes piss and trannies? he was a FREAK
All this schizo does is get people to use the split to get away from them.
>chatter: I saw zen play it and it didn't look that good dhe even said she didn't like it>saru: zen finished a game? Why didn't she like it, was it not add enough
you know what? why not
>>87229970NYANKEK FAGGOT IS A TRAITOR
>>87230532I'm starting to think he might be a false flagger. There's no way someone gets this bent out of shape over something as trivial as switching tabs right?
>>87230407The size of my penis
>>87230582To be fair, we're on 4chan.
>>87230570You keep responding to that one post, it really is you isn't it?
>>87230568>Where do the rumors come fromHer fansly videos of her fucking her girlfriend with her cock
>>87230582I've seen enough autistic schizos in this thread to believe this one is genuine autist having meltdown.
>>87229970SPLITTARD FAGGOT KILL YOURSELF
>kuu ASMRFUCK YEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>87230582Nah it's real
>>87230568>Where do the rumors come fromYou can get a clear view of Katie's dick. Look up the name on coomer dot su.
nta but nyangger is bitch for doing that ngl
I love filters
>>87230704Don't do it, her cock is bigger than any lig posters.
>>87230582Nobody sane cares how many threads there are about vtubers, even indies. All the shitposting from both sides is annoying though.
>>87230634>>87230704Thank you, I have found more information. I'll be damned if she doesn't look like a woman. I always thought I would never fall for it but I was very very close to masturbating to her yesterday.Luckily I changed to Sinder at the last moment.
>>87230568She said she was born intersex but called herself trans before accepting she just a woman that intersex
God I really want to cum inside Shyrei (Squchan)
That's a sad way to live
>>87230800Nobody gives a fuck who you jerk to you autist
FAT WERENEKO TITS
uhh the melty
>>87230853I care. That video of OBKatieKat plapoing her chubby girlfriend is pretty hot tbdes.
that was an actual flashbang
>>87230929Yeah, but it never ends with a creampie which is disappointing
>>87230982sassy bitchwhy's she been magenta lately
>>87230811intersex people tend to have fucked up reproductive systems as in ovaries inside them or a deformed cock. they're likely just mtf
>>87230993It's a metaphor for life
happy flat fuck friday liggermen https://x.com/chainsaw_alice/status/1367811336156119042
>>87230993There are a couple but there should be more
>>87231009she recolored her model live on stream and people loved it
>dya might be rigging katie next modelI hope she put a buldge on this model
>>87230925I might make a tuna melty
>>87231079Oh I haven't seen those then. BRB going to coomer
>>87231048I was hoping this was Alice's delicious flat chest and I guess it is but it isn't the focus I was hoping for.
>>87231117The good stuff is on bipsy or whoever's account
>>87231023See I don’t see that because unless katie had everything scrubbed off the internet; someone would have find a photo before she transitioned.
>>87229970
Prawndo
>>87231101>the schrodinger puffy vulva/benisInteresting.
>>87231101she needs to give Aethel his bulge physics too
>>87230982>>87231088Oh I genuinely had no idea who it was until I saw the mascot in the back
>>87230153like every woman
>>87231189Whoops wrong thread
>>87231327Huh?
Liggers for this feel?
>Katie can't even have orange juice without feeling sick What's wrong with her?
Most human conversations are the exchange of information or saying I like X and I do not like X, they are shit and boringt. Human
>>87231355White people to random strangers:
>>87231394Ironic.
>>87230900>>87230936When the CIA invades your goon cave
>>87231394I like you.
>>87231379>her
>>87231379It's all psychosomatic. Not surprising given Katie's mental state.
>>87231379A seriously unhealthy diet. I have a friend who threw up from eating an apple slice and he was not healthy at that time either
>>87231183those photos would be only for the doctor's and parent's eyes. they snip off unwanted bits when you're a baby or just leave it if it's not causing issues. they look perfectly normal down there so I doubt anything other than mtf
>>87231127
>>87231516stop jerking off in the thread arax
>>87231506What a useless invention
>>87231189Picture of mental health
>>87231183Who would bother trying to dig that up? If she was denying or hiding it some schizo would try and find them as proof, but she's really open about it so who cares enough to find her old pics?
>>87231549I'm watching doom videos on hitscanners but Squ's thighs are so fucking sex in that
>>87231559how is it useless? you can cut bananaseggsyou can circumsize yourself
>>87231394I like getting my dick sucked and I do not like not getting my dick sucked.
>>87231048I was born to kiss Alice's flat chest and cute feet
Is it gay to want to fuck femboys?
>>87231720obviously yes
>>87231636Is it a decino video?
>>87231720yeah but just don't be gay about itray counts
>>87231624I see your point
>>87231720Depends, who is your oshi?
>>87231720Only if your male
>>87231720If course not
>>87231720Yes, not that there's anything wrong with it.
>>87231665Same
>>87231720yes
>>87231740yehttps://youtu.be/1fcqYr1NevE
who was the walter white of lig
>>87231768
>>87231797BASED as fuck!
>>87231720Is it gay to want be fucked BY a femboy?
mmmmmfmphmmm mmm fphmmmm mmmmmmfmmfmmmfmmfmmphhhhhh mmmmp
Is it gay to just get your dick sucked by a femboy if you don't touch his penis at all
>>87231827Sorry typing with one hand as I jork it to femboys
Oh hey clauvio went live
>>87231817Mr. Slab seems like a solid contender
>>87231817Uwoslab
>>87231817I don't think we have any meth cooks in here
>>87231817Tob is Walter with the knowledge of making them and Numi is Jesse selling them to other liggers to get them drunk and high enough to rape
>>87231880The femboy jerking summoned her
Your oshi is Chinese.
>>87231849no unless you happen to take a glance at his scrote
>>87231797when is he playing this?
>>87231957
clauviwho?
>>87231897He definitely can. I mean, he made laughing gas the other day. My chemistry friends say that at uni, they made meth or something like that because it's an easy and simple example of chirality or something
who is the Red Foreman of lig?
>>87231845>mmmmmfmphmmm mmm fphmmmm mmmmmmfmmfmmmfmmfmmphhhhhh mmmmp
Blue lust on a train
>>87231957Long ago, she was chinese
>>87231957hey anon, do you know how corn is in cantonese?
>>87232136is this some giri joke
why are there no nuristani liggers
>>87232254https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI4lXGgk8fM
>>87232120Me on the left
>>87231442>>87231555learn english
>>87232344They're a lost cause
https://www.twitch.tv/clauvio
>>87231989I don't know I just watch the technical videos
>>87232258neuro?
>>87232405eating sleepyheads for lunch
>>87232258Does Afghanistan even have Internet these days?
>>87232426If Neuro is supposed to be from a small tribe of largely blonde-haired and blue-eyed people from afghanistan, then sure
>>87232405WHAT
Need Saru to pop my cyst.
Need Saru to poop my cyst.
>>87232059Probably amphetamine(regular). Benzaldehyde is a pretty common lab prep project
>>87232405YESYES
Need Saru to poop
>>87232631wouldn't that cause an infection or something like that
QRD on Clauvio?
>>87232681canadian femboy
>>87229112pfpback on discord, talking in neuro chat. now an Anny OPhmm :sus:
>>87232681moved out and is now socializing apparentlymight join 3am by the end of the year at this pace
>>87232681Thick cock that's a little on the short side
>>87232405Sleepyheads our queen returns.
>some woman at a hotel bar is arguing about Christianity>says she's getting a degree in theology >someone asks her if she read the Old Testament >says "Oh no, I didn't really like it" Oh the joys of traveling
Clauvio and Ecto should have a one-on-one collab where they giggle the whole time
>>87232736Wow that is SOOOOOOO exciting, can't wait for the next wave of two return streams followed by yet another twitter closure, mental breakdown and silence
Need to FUCK Alice!
>>87232855why does she wear the choker
>>87232891Easy to break since she's kinda small
>>87232839So her regular schedule?
what if putin met anny
>>87232405Sleepyheads, it's our time at last
Snuggling with AliceThoughts?
>>87232998he would look at the ground and blushvery wholesome moment in russian history
>>87232835they should kiss and touch each other
>>87233047I have some 2x4s in my garage that would provide a similar experience
Nene Amano Fields of Mistriahttps://youtu.be/A4qy9n8h_mY
>>87232998Putin isn't real he's a wax puppet controlled by China. The real Putin died 15 years ago.
Day 2 of rikku melty hour
>>87232972She'll return to stream for 1 week, make rent, then back on haitus.
>>87233047Would enjoy that a lot but I don't think she does that with boys
>>87233199Art bitches. Not even once.
>>87232763that's the "evil" book how do you ignore it
>>87233199what a retard
>IMG
>>87233199>>87233301buy an ad tracing whoremaybe try buying an art course too while you're at it lmao
>>87233350is the cosplayer doki?
>>87233322you lost dya
>ctrl+f>"rape">3 hitsCome on lig.
>>87233237Jason is a boy
>>87233199damn you can track twitch username changes with external tools?
>>87232120I think Alice should greedily suck my dick until I can't get hard anymore
>>87233322>>87233397come on lads. not again
>>87233397seethe lmao
>>87233350I would rape anything vaguely feminine.
>>87233199>>87233431I want to know what site this is. (and if I'm logged on it)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4qy9n8h_mYnene live
>>87233457What about me
>>87233615you especially
>Taking about how you could die in your sleep if there's a leak in your gas line and it explodes>GigglesGod I missed Clauvio
>>87232681Adorable little micro penis
strong desire to fuck Silver in her slutty nurse outfit until she's a shaking mess
>>87233568site seems to be this https://twitch-tools.lolarchiver.com/username_changelog?name=cock but requires a subscription to use
I like the mous :)
>>87232752>ThickYou wish
>>87232835those two would make a cute couple
>>87233452close the tab dya
>>87232681>Very pleasant voice and good yaps>Plays mainly retro games>Schedule all over the fucking place but hopefully it'll be more regular now she's moved>New outfit out this month>Never approach a sleepyhead alone
>>87233728that's terrifying. I need to delete my account right now.
>>87233834your account is cock?
>>87233199Stalking is bad no matter the reason
>>87233877>googling someones twitch account is stalkinglollmao even
just gobbed extremely hard to the geega sloppa from earlier. thank you so much good morning poster you're the best sloppa maker around
>>87233199>Dya is a doxxfagI lost all respect for her
>>87233732Sorry bud, you're not allowed to like things around here
BUTTSLUT
>>87233958nta but just because it's easy and accessible doesn't make it any less unhinged than it has always been throughout historythe information age is turning us into wild animals
>>87233732Clauvio and Ashley Mouse propose to you at the same time, who do you pick?
BUTTSLUT?
>>87234039seethe
imagine sharing a bed with werewolf buff. all that free insulation + knot in pooper
Go back to xitter
E FINITA
>>87234068>>87234083>deme and psp1g collabI'll pass
>>87234130>not knot in mouthloser
>>87234108Now that's more like it. Come on, call me a fag or a tranny
>>87234083at an unusual hour
>>87233728lmao did rikku really just buy a subscription on that thing just because of some art beef? what a retarded bitch
Dya should rape yukii until she learn her place in the pecking order
>>87234069pursuing information on your assailant isn't stalking
RAKASTAN LOOMIA JA HALUAN MENNÄ NAIMISIIN TÄMÄN DORKAN KANSSA, PERUSTAA PERHEEN TÄMÄN DORKAN KANSSA, JA KASVATTAA AINAKIN 43 LASTA TÄMÄN DORKAN KANSSA, LAPSIA JOTKA PERIVÄT PARHAAT PIIRTEEMME JA OMINAISUUTEMME, MUTTA JOTKA OVAT MYÖS YHTÄ AUTISTISIA SUOMALAISIA KUIN HEIDÄN KAUNIS DORKA ÄITI
>>87234156that's how you got hurt last time, bao.
>>87234189Whatever you say dya
>>87234189>Tracing art is assaultBro what???
>>87234156>Not knot in throat
>>87234191SLOOMI SEXXOOO
>>87234243Artists are mentally ill, more news at 7
wrapping my cock around filians sweaty training bra
>>87234243>>87234334your attempts to defend yourself here are pretty laughable
>>87234191you're a pillar of the community between knot discussions and art bitch gossip
What is it about this general that attracts so many schizos and retards?
>I want a knot that'll last all dayClauvio - 2024
>>87234150how did psp manage to score Deme
>>87234226if I was Dya I'd be jorking in the mirror right now and feeling up some titties. there's literally nothing wrong with finding out who is harassing you and sometimes you need to if you want to take action against them, not that she'd have a case
>>87234080Clauvio no question. Not a fan of Ashley.
>>87234371You are laughable Dya
>>87234080the sleepyheads
>>8723419169 with sloomi
I love my wife
>>87234371Your trashy models are overpriced
Dya will doxx somebody and send her army of fans to attack a person and she will still think she's the good one in this spat.
>>87234426This picture got a whole new meaning.
Where does your oshi fall on this chart? What would you do if your oshi ended up on the opposite end?
>>87234426hold on a minute...
>>87234413>>87234430seething lmao
I will now anti dya for shitting up /lig/
>>87234388I know what I'm genning when I get home
>>87234504BASED BASED BASED
>>87229970>>87230621KILL YOURSELF SPLITFAGGOT
>>87234392Deme is a fat flip
Buttslut? At this time of year? At this time of day? Localized entirely within my internets?
>>87234480Yes Dya, you are, we all can see
>>87234528Don't get excited her Lora is really bad, she basically doesn't have one
>>87234552I'm not the one replying multiple times to the same post to defend myself and larping as multiple people lmao
>>87234536lmao
>>87234540HOT
>>87234582See >>87234136
>>87234504I bet it's cute bats
>>87234601you lost
Do you think Dya still has some plates left or did she smashed them all in her fit of italian woman rage
so true
>>87234654She must have destroyed her entire house in a fit of schizo rage at this point
>>87234440DYEL and skelly
>>87234136what do they call tweeting now that it's x? xeeting?
>>87232312Why don't we have any nick mullen's in liggerman blue?
>>87234579aight betdamn I didn't realize giru drew clauvio so much
You've really been insufferable lately, /lig/, and I'm not even talking about the obvious schizospam.
>>87234579no... I just wanted to see her getting orally knotted...
>>87234683Did she actually do it?
Why does saru dress like this if she doesn't want us to sexualize her
Shondo playing more Until Dawnhttps://www.twitch.tv/fallenshadow
>>87234720>loli/petite>dorky voice>weird interests>bare feetAbsolute Girutea bait
Gee /lig/! How come your mom lets you have two schizos melting at once?
>>87234780She's actually wants us to sexualize her and is just hiding it
>>87234720Giru actually has a better lora than Clauvio does
>>87234815I like when Giru draws big women too though he should draw Margo more often
>>87234440This reminds me of those times Grimmi did some based as fuck streams while being on roid meds.
>>87234720Someone post the art of the sleepyhead on a surfboard, I like that one
>>87234840>no means yest. rapist
>>87234738I think Hackerling should get over her model anxiety and use it more often, because she's cute
>>87234815giru draws weird feet
>>87234874
>>87234780Same reason as all women. She wants to be sexualized, just not by (you)
>>87234911But I love you
>>87234882Saru herself said no sometimes means yes
wait a second isn't this just the meicha schizo
>>87234874haven't seen it yet but this one is really stinkin cute>>87234845I like the way he drew Poya, nice proportions
>>87229970>>87230621TRAITOR SPLIT FAGGOT TARD
>>87234882How did you know?
>>87234904What hath god wrought
Rikku lost
>>87234904What the FUCK
Morning Yorohttps://www.twitch.tv/yoroyoyo
https://x.com/sososoulys/status/1844768827545891054
>>87234759do what?
kek
>>87234956His m.o. is also pretty similar to the para schizo. Curious, no?
is meat still gonna be that 24 hour stream
>>87235058Animal abuse
>>87235093To my cock, yes
I fucking love nino's flat chest
>>87235136I'm being serious. If any girl is found to have done that, she will be dropped instantly and forever.
>>87234440
>>87235140yeah
Ok I'm going to masturbate and go to bed, goodnight
>>87235086And the anti-loli schizo, and the pro-loli schizo, and the anti-gosling schizo, and the trannyschizo, and the anti-trannyschizo, and the anti-phaseschizo
>>87235021>Night of the Living Dead watchalongBased
>>87235005and I found whatever she lost
>>87235192she was also part of some suicide cult
sex with nina?
>>87235199Is this loss?
I love my wife! It's almost time for our big date!
How can one pink cat post cause so much seethe?
>>87235257Yet she is still alive, how curious.
>>87235304Don't forget to get them to clip your nails
>>87234912This
>>87235304post the other figure image
>>87235317no, she persuaded others to kys
https://www.twitch.tv/yuriafriday panda
>>87234912Yeah by (You) who is (You), not (You) who is me
Why does shondo sound so erotic today
>>87235307Mental illnesses. I'd cuddle with that pinkposter.
If I get a gf will I lose interest in vtubers?
>>87235405That's everyday
>>87235354Stupid breast inflation fetishists
>>87235354Uuuu she hates us!
>>87235354Ghost blowjob incoming!
>>87235358I didn't know that.
>>87235236>masturBATe
>>87235415Yes
>>87235495I will not.
>>87235350
>>87235230I want to be sandwiched in between both of them
>>87235415If you spend enough time with her and really enjoy being together, there's a good chance of that.
>>87235540I mean the other oneyou know which one I mean
What should I do tonight?
>>87235415You can watch them together
>>87235354need to suck her ghost cock
>>87235562Perhaps not a question of what, but of whom?
>>87229786check out my bat. Authentic, organic and GMO free! Plz, don't steal
>>87235686>>87235686>>87235686
>>87235415Yep. you don't need GFE vtubers when you have real GF
>>87235547You want to be squished by a hydraulic press?
>>87235415You might but maybe not totally, can still use them as good background noise.
>>87235092Yes, she'll be going live her usual start time and stream 24 hours
bump
>>87236562Anon we're past the bump limit.
>>87236562
*rapes you*
>>87234175You can check that for free on betterbanned lol
