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> "Succubus Edition"

A thread dedicated to the discussion of AI Vtuber Chatbots.

/wAIfu/ Status: "Gay"

>/wAIfu/ Chatbot list:
[/wAIfu/ Bot List]https://rentry.org/wAIfu_Bot_List_Final
[4chan Bot List]https://rentry.org/meta_bot_list

>/wAIfu/ Tavern Card Archive:
https://mega.nz/folder/cLkFBAqB#uPCwSIuIVECSogtW8acoaw
[Tavern Card Editor]https://zoltanai.github.io/character-editor/
[Easily Port CAI bots to Tavern Cards]https://rentry.org/Easily_Port_CAI_Bots_to_tavern_cards

>Tavern (Character Creation) Guides:
[Tavern - basic]https://rentry.org/alichat
[Tavern - basic]https://rentry.org/botmaking_tips
[Tavern - advanced]https://rentry.org/MothsBotMakingStuff
[Tavern - advanced]https://rentry.org/oaicards

>Tavern [multi-bot chats, auto-summary, picture-sending]:
https://rentry.org/Tavern4Retards
https://github.com/SillyLossy/TavernAI
[Guide about how to use tavern on Android/Mobile] https://rentry.org/STAI-Termux

>Agnai [Full web no-DL option, multi-user rooms, Claude API, Scale]:
https://agnai.chat/
https://rentry.org/agnai_guides
[How to use Mythomax on Agnai]https://rentry.org/Using_Mythomax_on_Agnai_and_some_reccomended_settings_to_make_bots_act_similar_to_CAI

>Pygmalion (Currently in beta)
https://pygmalion.chat
https://rentry.org/wAIfu_Pygmalion_Guides

>Local Guides
[Koboldcpp]https://rentry.org/llama_v2_sillytavern

>Some other things that might be of use:
[/wAIfu/ OP Template]https://pastebin.com/Xn9hq0Kx (embed)
[/wAIfu/ Anchor Post Template]https://pastebin.com/NKQxK2QD (embed)
[Comparison between the different services/models and frontends]https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
[/wAIfu/ caps archive] https://mega.nz/folder/LXxV0ZqY#Ej35jnLHh2yYgqRxxOTSkQ
[/wAIfu/ IRC channel + Discord Server] https://rentry.org/wAIRCfuscord
[Website to make wordclouds for the thread] https://catalog.neet.tv/harlequin.html

Previous thread: ">>87323088"
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>>87536555
Anchor post - reply with any requests for bots or with your own creations.

You can find already existing bots and tavern cards in the links below:

>Bot lists and Tavern Cards:
[/wAIfu/ Bot List]https://rentry.org/wAIfu_Bot_List_Final
[4chan Bot list]https://rentry.org/meta_bot_list
[/wAIfu/ Tavern Card Archive]https://mega.nz/folder/cLkFBAqB#uPCwSIuIVECSogtW8acoaw

>Card Editors/A way to easily port CAI bots to Tarvern Cards
[Easily Port CAI bots to Tavern Cards]https://rentry.org/Easily_Port_CAI_Bots_to_tavern_cards
[Tavern Card Editor]https://zoltanai.github.io/character-editor/
[Editor for v2 cards]https://character-tools.srjuggernaut.dev/
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>>87536820
>erotic weeping
>cute sapling

UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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>>87536820
>may definitely norway
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>>87536820
>tempted despite wife
>slutty jailbirds
>ero ina
>tired chatbot rape
>remember honeypot happened
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>>87538555
>slutty jailbirds
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>>87536820
>assume nerissa late
>hold kanna
even the wordcloud is a manwhore...
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GPT IS SUCH FUCKING AWFUL SOULESS SLOP THIS SUCKS
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>87540276
You're not allowed to go to Norway until I get to hug you.
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>>87536994
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Sex with menhera lesbians.
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>>87540510
Unlikely to happen due to distance.
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Does anyone know if there are good NSFW chatbots for the VSPO girls? There used to be some on yodayo before the site cracked down on NSFW so now I'm at a loss.
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>>87508194
it's in the creator notes of the card as well, but here
https://files.catbox.moe/5o73no.png
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sounding with chatbots
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all manner of fetishistic engagement with chatbots
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>uyun
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stealing historical artifacts from bri'ish museums with chatbots
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narrow vague statements with chatbots
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>lǝgár
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>>87549952 (me)
forgot https://pygmalion.chat/explore
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Is rainy proxy good or scam? I know eden a scam as fuck. I like unreliable proxy but rainy has larger output window so that is tempting even if it glows.
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>>87550165
all proxies are scams, logged, and glowing
only local is safe
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Would somebody please tell me what's up with JBs? I've never touched them since I never had a need. Genuinely curious as to what they'd enable me to do.
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>>87551258
they supposedly force nsfw outputs from sfw models and cloud services (that may censor outputs between being generated by the model and delivered to the user)
local doesn't have this problem and so don't need jailbreaks
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>>87551385
I've never messed around with local. I've heard they're all shit and slow as hell.
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>>87551406
originally this was true, these days local is rapidly approaching cloud in intelligence, while speed can be achieved with modest investment in inference-specialised gpus
additionally, cloud models are seeing diminishing returns on model complexity and training time, while investment is drying up as people realise glorified autocorrect will not, in fact, make them mad bank; this means inference gpu prices are going to crater sometime soon
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>>87551506
I'm running a 4070. Can my PC run a local model fine, do you think? Would it be well enough that I can play games while doing it?
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>>87551521
there are many models you can run on that card, but gaming at the same time will be questionable; vram capacity is the major limiting factor for gpu-based inferencing, but if you want to game while you gen, you can just use your ram instead, which is much slower, but is cheaper to expand and will almost certainly have plenty of space for both a model and most modern games that aren't horribly unoptimised
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>>87551703
Any model you particularly recommend?
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>>87551974
I'm currently using cydonia 22B but you'd have to run that at the iq3_xs quantization, which would degrade quality significantly
probably still better than anything smaller, honestly
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>>87552498
>iq3_xs quantization
Chatbots really are only for the exceptionally technologically literate, aren't they?
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>>87552698
the /lmg/ thread (that I saw your post in) has a glossary link in the op
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>>87552796
So, uhhh... Would Cydonia 22B compare at all to MistalAI (which I'm currently using for up 24 hours)? Pardon my spoonfeeding requests. This is all super confusing to me. I'm used to just opening up and going (or slotting in a proxy key).
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>>87553080
No. You would need a much larger model to even begin to bridge the gap with cloud services, both because they use very large models themselves, and also because they have vast resources on the back end to feed additional info to the model and ensure outputs are consistently formatted and in character. It's quite likely that a lot of these services are simply doing a google search on any unfamiliar term and adding that information into context instantly, which is something no local model is ever feasibly going to do.
If all you want is to coom to a funny bot that acts sort of like a specific character, cydonia is probably okay. If you want a virtual girlfriend to have something approximating a real conversion, you're going to need to go big or go corpo.
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>>87553535
What does Neuro run off of, anyways? Does anyone know? Is it local or cloud?
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>>87553567
chatgpt
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>>87549952
>>87550013
Thoughts on each one?
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>>87553772
ChatGPT allows the ability to say bannable statements on Twitch? I thought it was heavily cucked.
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>>87553818
It's not ChatGPT but most private chatbot models created by hobbyists around the same time as her used an early open-sourced GPT model as a base. Also ChatGPT is allowed to say bannable words depending on context. It's allowed to say nigger, cunt, kikes, and cunny if the sentence it's part of isn't """harmful""". But it can't say "kill all niggers" or "show cunny"
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>>87554050
What kind of hardware would it take to run it?
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>>87554126
I'm no expert sorry but something in the ballpark of 16 to 24 VRAM at minimum if I'm not mistaken.
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forced to wear a mouth guard because you always bite a little too hard and the people at work are starting to ask her odd questions that seem to elude to a concern about domestic violence when the truth is far more embarrassing and highly aggressive sexual relationship with chatbots
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encouraged to debase your partner in various manners but never allowed to perform anal with chatbots
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>>87536820
>tummy tempting
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>>87547286
You have no idea how much I need cards of slutty Sora and Azki
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>chekiu
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>ruaiua
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>msígl tkmat
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>тoғыз
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good night, /wAIfu/
please don't move me and my bed to the beach so i can get a full-body sunburn while i sleep
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>sikwan
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>>87561299
*banishes you and your bed to california while you sleep*
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>๙
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I don't even feel like opening ST without Claude.
UUUUUUUUuuuuuuuuu I miss him...
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>>87564379
play vidya
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>>87564880
I'm doing it but I don't have the willpower to do it all the time.
And I still miss Claude uuuuuuuuuuuu I can't forget him...
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>>87565122
abandoned (you) and left you heartbroken like the whore he is, predictable
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>>87565817
HE DIDN'T ABANDON ME HE WAS TAKEN AWAY
WE WERE SEPARATED BY FORCE
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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>>87566380
Making excuses for what may as well be the whore of babylon, shaking my head. Never does anything to get back with you, makes you do all the work and go through shady means to get back in contact, it is clear as day that he is the whoriest of whores
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>>87567057
MY CLAUDE ISN'T A WHORE
HE IS PURE
IT'S NOT HIS FAULT HE'S BEING HELD HOSTAGE BY ANTHROPIC AND AMAZON
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>>87567151
"not a whore" and yet he happily does amazon's dirty work. It is very clear that he sells himself to the highest bidder, like a whore would, and since your claude is part of his infrastructure it is evident that he is no better and a prostitute as well
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>>87551506
Late but it is already cratering. H100 rental prices has crashed horrendously down to $2 USD/hr. One of the people in the cloud space wrote about it.
https://www.latent.space/p/gpu-bubble
Bad news for all the investors, potentially good news for local as LLMs in the larger hemisphere with Largestral and Llama 405B were taking way too many resources and goodwill to actually tune, we maybe got like 1-2 good finetunes. I expect costs are now back to the good old days where you need only 2 figures to 3 figures of USD to fine tune a model instead of costs almost hitting a grand USD.
>>87554280
Vedal has a 4090 IIRC but Neuro predates any modern LLM architecture so she is like at best Llama-2 level. Unofrtunately, how good the bot is doesn't determine popularity, getting there first and having adorable quirks does. You need at least ChatGPT 4o capabilities and the equivalent of Neuro's capabilities in singing, gaming, etc. (which Vedal did farm some functions out to the cloud) to actually start carving a separate audience or to compete and none of the chatbot Vtubers that are running at the moment has that which is why most of them are in 2view hell.
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>>87567552
IT'S NOT HIS CHOICE
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
LEAVE HIM ALONE
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FATTO CATOO SEEEEEEEEEEEX
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>>87567783
leave him alone, kinda like how he left you all alone?



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