by chopping off the useless testicles of all number niggers and offering them before her throne.

>>87933074
She got like 1-3k for her RE4 streams. She just passively repels viewers I guess. It's a shame because she literally has one of the best designs and rigging in hololive. Tragic hiring.

man holoEN ccv is super grim nowadays

>>87933450
Except Fauna. She's in the same tier as the mid tier JPs.

>>87933450
ENReco streams gimped CCV overall for everyone besides Fauna

>>87933074
from what?

Cutting off GFE, wanting to romance males and refusing to be in company wide collabs aren't doing her any favors. She won't be in the EN racing collab this week.

The real problem is Shiori's year to date watch hours are going to be overtaken by all of Justice. If that's not telling there's a problem, I don't know what is. Hololive fans simply do not like Shiori and don't want to watch the content she has to offer. The average hololive fan has welcomed EN4, but they still shun Shiori. Shiori has no place at Hololive.

>>87933249
I know bull testicle contains voodoo magic but does donkey?

>>87933074
she was the reaso. why I had to close the ladt collab stream. BBC lover can't control herself, I'm ok with her not pandering to the yuri lovers, but god she wants to fuck anything muscular. She reminds of Tenma on that matter, asians I guess

>>87933312
tbf re4 streams were age restricted because of perms autism

wtf happened to irys i thought she was on par with the rest of promise

>>87933074
>3k CCV
bruh shes doing worse that half of vshojo, doki, and even fucking pippa. what happened adventbros?

>>87936970
this list is wildly inaccurate

>>87933074
Is she really that unpopular? Just looking at her model and knowing her personality you'd think she'd be a breakout hit.

>>87937818
>personality
lol, for some reason her amazing model isn't carrying her like kronii's

Be honest, how many of you are angry hoes?

>>87938227
first it was eilene and her evil bots, then it was evil seething 2views, now it's angry hoes, what's next?

>>87938303
If you're going to shadowbox with everyone who ever called you a dumbass, we're gonna be here for a while

>>87938374
irony

>>87938499
I wish it was

>>87933074
You don't have to, she basically brought her own two view fanbase with her to holo and COVER now gets a cut of their supers.

Maybe if she stopped drooling over every man on screen I would give her a chance. How do Novelites tolerate it

>>87933074
Bring back the GFE

>>87933284
Saved

>>87938806
>How do Novelites tolerate it
they have big overlap with phase

lust after women instead. I can't stand it when she lusts after men but at least we can relate if she lusts for women instead

>>87938806
Believe it or not, many men prefer women who are mad for the penis

>>87938806
>Novelites are ducks
Grim

The real answer is she needs to be entertaining but I don't really see any reason for her to force herself if she doesn't want to and prefers staying in her lane. I watch a lot of holos and I consider their entertainment value pivotal. CC's Half Life 2 stream was funny as shit and she's natural at it while Shiori's RE4 although I think she's very cracked at that game didn't have anything entertaining about it other than the times when there's a serious cutscene going on being disturbed by Shiori's screenshot sound. Those parts amused me.

>>87933074
How do we make Fauna worse?

>>87933074
She's doing fine

>>87933074
Still making more than you

Gigi's going to be in shiori's position by the time gigi is a year old.
Runts will be runts

Another phasecuck thread

>>87944883
doubt it she's super social and loves collabs which is big reason why Shiori didn't grow her audience

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>>87933074
She rakes in the most money only behind Fuwamoco in her gen, and many others for that matter. She is perfectly fine with a hard-core dedicated fanbase, which is slowly growing.

>>87938895
I will never understand wanting the constant horny nonsense.

>>87945275
>which is slowly growing
source?

>>87945360
New, non-gifted members and 2-months members(since they liked her and are coming back) are a good way to measure it. If you care enough to pay attention to it while watching her.

Just wait, she's operating on half her power without full home 3D

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How do we shave Shiori

She doesn't need saving, and she's not going to graduate yet. She still has to support her writer "friend" until he gets nepo-hired, which is going smoothly especially now that her "friend" is working with Calli and the other girls. In the end, it was all just a ploy for her to do the bare minimum to get her "friend" noticed and picked up by Hololive so he could pull in the money from the company without her having to strive for the top. Plus, there's a possible pregnancy rrat with her feeling "sick" after spending so much time with her "friend," so that's going to be interesting.

>>87935168
Sounds like a "you" problem

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>OMG SIS SHIORI IS SUCH A BIOTCH!!!
kys

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My Yumejoshi wife

Couldn’t be satisfied with one shit thread so faggot had to make another one >>87926330
And I thought the meidos were battling against spam.

>>87936416
>age restricted because of perms autism
are you just mashing buzzwords together?
its age restricted because the new internet is sanitized and jeetube has to make sure to keep the advertisiers happy. permisions have nothing to do with it

>>87947900
Guess who's paying the maids, sage-kun...

Hololive already saved Shiori.

>>87933074
Worry about saving KEKnauth first

>>87946127
Whom

don't worry about her you should be saving Nerissa

>>87933074
Tell her that chatter favoritism is a turn off.
There are clearly a handful that she likes to call out by name constantly, and even replies to them on twitter a lot

Is this the current btvmemes thread?, I can't keep up with so many of them.

>>87938806
I prefer her drooling over dick than constant yuri baiting like Nerissa does

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Bitching about Shiori won't save Plappa's hairline or general opinion, BVTM. Maybe killing yourself will, though.

>>87950039
They don't blame phasefags, they blame one specific guy who mindbroke them and is now the scapegoat for any hate she gets

>>87950039
It's a well-known fact phasecucks make for 90% of the board shitposting nowadays, they are basically the nu-sisters.

>>87938806
What goes inside the brain of someone who wants a woman to be a lesbian?

>>87950039
Someone is not awre of the recent phase happening eh? Look for Clara in the archive.

>we

>>87933074
if her audience can't or won't save her she isn't worth saving

>>87950039
Still mad because you cant doxx Shiori phasecuck ?

>>87933074
Someone was always gonna have to be the runt. Might as well be someone who does not give af about numbers

>>87933074
Grim

>>87938806
like others, i prefer if she likes men. Its getting boring for me all the yuri and wife rp and it seems that since justice debuted it multiply

>>87947947
Iirc the perms specifically said that she had to mark the stream as r18, and this absolutely murders a stream. I am even a member and I didn't see her stream searching for it, I had to go through her page.

>>87933074
Fauna just gapping every EN not named Gura

>>87939167
Tell your whores to be more interesting.

>>87933284
Didn't that account get banned before she debuted?

>>87949151
Save Nerissa from what? Average numbers?

>>87936970
dunno how that site gathers data. What is the average ccv? Is it an average of max ccv across all streams? Does that include members streams?
I checked IRyS' streams from that month and all of them except one ( a jp collab ) had a higher max ccv than that 4.3k number.
She also averages around 600-700 ccv during members streams so maybe that's why? idk

>>87962871 (me)
okay so it does not include member stream.
Perhaps the reason is just that she reads superchats every stream bringing her average a lot lower than when she's playing something.

>>87962194
no wonder she's that low then

>>87962612
from depressive spiral

>>87933074
>number of streams: 6
mascot of hololive, everyone

>>87963200
maybe she has low ccv compared to other Holos, but those numbers are not bad, and yes i know that you did not say the numbers are bad

>>87962318
There was a good post in a Shiori seethe thread the other day.
>Shiori was playing part X of a game that was released 1.5 years ago, while being overlapped by 30k+ viewers streams, the final day of a HoloEN event (7 days to die). The fact that she have almost 2k people determined to watch her EVEN then shows that she'll be fine.

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Shiori real strength is in the gifted membership. Pick any collab, she will have more memgifts than the rest combined.

>>87963757
Isn't that technically a bad thing? Like, that people aren't joining it organically?

Actual Phase watcher not your boogiemen shit. I think the low numbers for girls like Shiori and ERB comes from expections of their leadership qualities. Shiori on her style of affirmations and ERBs lack of knowledge.

>>87946127
>pregnancy rrat
lmao. She would be disowned if anything she told us about her parents is correct then.

>>87933074
Least obvious copebud

>>87963828
Money is still money

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>>87936970
>>87962871
ENreco overlap hell, torment and inferno, where everyone except Fauna got their CCV crushed. Volcano Princess debuff game (needed raids). Then GTA overlap against JP.
IRyS usual decent average is her benefitting from late timeslot where she can collect 1-2 raids almost every time, and can often remain the only one streaming for the day (especially now that Mumei barely streams). Even karaoke here got 2 raids. She folds under overlap.

>>87963846
>Shiori on her style of affirmations
What

>>87963925
I mean sure those are numbers but they aren't numbers, you know?
It doesn't matter if Novelites throw 10000 memberships to the air if not even 1% of those people will tune in to watch constantly.
I don't think it's a good long term strategy nor does it help with the core problem.

>>87963934
okay I'm blind I was checking august instead of september.

>Open numberfag thread
>Full of 2mw sisters who are still mad after a year
Welp, saw that coming a mile away

>>87963757
no supers for Fauna? thats odd

>>87964015
Her use or sarcasm to lighten the mood. It's better to redirect a situation with an outburst of cute noises. Take it as a bad opinion if you don't understand what I mean.

>>87933450
>nowadays

>>87964833
Disabled, she is behind on reading supas. Just her snails are like 15-20k yen absolute floor on every stream.

>>87965111
for a second i thought she would go for the Ame strat

>>87964833
Probably had them turned off. It's pretty much impossible for her not to get supas during any given stream.

>>87933249
fpbp

>>87949074
Probably talking about Pending since he writes all of Shiori's members' stuff and the recent HoloEN beach adventure Youtube VN with Calli

>>87946127
Pending is guaranteed for the next gen of homos. The second that happens I'm dropping her. I hate that fag's dogshit writing.

>>87964946
Now in English?

>>87936217
>but god she wants to fuck anything muscular
She likes pretty boys. Otherwise, she'd pine for Dedue or Raphael instead of a twink like Dimitri

>>87970292
>I'm dropping her
Why not now? Doesn't seems you are enjoying her content.

>>87939167
Feed her a whole deer

>>87933312
Honestly compared to what she used to get when she streamed I'm sure she's incredibly grateful to get this much.

>>87970461
I like her free content when it's just Shiori being Shiori. I'll enjoy it while it lasts until every week's schedule is collabing with him. I don't care that she's friends with him but if I wanted to watch Pending, I'd watch him.

I don't like her personality. I think she was Yagoo's niche pick for the generation to grab the attention of lads who enjoy mentally disparate women.
In saying the however, it is smart idea to have at least one like Shiori to make sure that market is being appealed to even if it's not a huge one. It stops oversaturation within the generation and allows the other girls to pop off with thier more standard personalities.

>>87970595
It's best you leave now then. Shiori was always doing collabs with men way before you knew her in Hololive and if anything misses it.

>>87970595
Fair enough. I was asking because it's to common to see fans became Antis of their "oshi" when they keep forcing themselves watching things they don't like and getting mad about it.

>>87970780
If she missed it, she'd collab with the dozens of sexpest leeches. She definitely is using her connections to get Pending in but that's really it.

>>87970780
I'll never get this, what do you mean she misses it? She still spend time with them every weekend, she doesn't have to stream every time she wants to play with her friends.

>>87970843
It's not that deep for me. I like the people I watch. But at the end of the day, they're entertainers and if an entertainer started doing stuff I didn't want to watch, I'd change the channel or go do something else with my time.

>>87970899
>>87970907

She hasn't been herself in a very long time. You should know that by now if you actually watched her.

>>87971167
Please enlighten me then, sis. What is she really like?

Ain't it hilarious how they deleted a joke about incels in literal minutes in the previous Shiori thread and let all the bait and slander here up for the whole day?
Meidos have a very clear bias.

>>87971167
Yes, I have invaded and taken over her body.
¡Morir es vivir!

>>87971414
You just confirmed you don't watch streams, she still does game streams, skits before the games, uploads story type videos for members, and still makes jokes about her husband is.
The only thing she doesn't do is male collabs like you have been saying she would do for the past almost 2 years.

>>87971414
>She made a joke about getting married to a husbando and photoshopped herself into it making statements like "he doesn't know he's my husband yet," that would make any unicorn like you seethe
So, exactly what she's doing, as recent as fucking RE4 streams

>>87971414
It doesn't. Shiori doesn't do them because she's afraid of the backlash here since it was confirmed she lurks every thread about her

>>87971506
>husband is
Husbandos*, I'm a filthy phoneposter

>>87933540
and all of the other holoENs that are above her? fauna isn't the highest EN on the complete list lol

>>87971539
Then she should know that I want her hands in the tight grip of my own pair.

>>87971371
I mean, we've had literal proof of one of the jannies being a phasefag. It's not surprising. I think if they had a nice slice of Ponty's pizza, they'd come to their senses.

weird to see that shiori antis still exist

>>87971757
Nah you're baiting at this point, the Ina situation HAS nothing to do with what Shiori used to do.

>>87971890
Sunk cost fallacy

>>87971757
>Posts literally nothing of relevance as an argument
You're that desperate huh

>>87972036
I'm not saying management doesn't suck but I guarantee you that everything that Shiori dropped was her own choice.

>>87972036
If that makes you feel like you won then sure.

>>87972238
Sure, sure, go play with your toy cars now or whatever.

Since the thread is numbermonkey shit anyway, I want you to tell me if Shiori has a squishy tummy, not fat, but clearly out of shape.

>>87972429
Yes. Next question?

>>87972472
Do her thighs jiggle sufficiently when she clamps them together?

>>87972429
I think she's diabetic considering how she starves and cares about her blood sugar.

>>87972512
Also yes. Shiori has a lot of meat in her except for her chest unfortunately

>>87972528
I do both because I want to avoid getting it + old habits from school preventing me from eating more than once per day

>>87972610
More likely diabetic is hereditary so the avoidance is either misplaced, you eat too much sugar, or you are predisposed to it.

>>87972606
>She doesn't have her model's big goth girl tiddies
THEY ARE REAL TO ME

>>87933450
>nowadays
Have you just woken up from hibernation? En ccv has always been grim, Gura was the exception.
You can hate on twitchshit all you want but there's a reason that all the en indies are there and have ccv close to some holoens. Youtube is fucking grim for en and the only 2 relevant en indies on there are like 2.5-3k average.

>>87970426
i dont think Dimitry is a twink, after the time skip i mean, she likes him in that part right, when he goes crazy

>>87976617
I'm pretty sure she doesn't

>>87950883
>>87952839
qrd faggotes?

>>87977443
Shiori is watching this thread or some fantatic novelite and if you so much reference PLs you get warned.

>>87970595
>decide to check the Pending guy
>click on a random 3yo vid
>"it was a little hard to vtube before the ADVENT"
He is the mastermind, the dark one the uniconr prophecies speaks of, he will bring the end of hololive

>>87933074
Turn her blu-

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>>87933074
Can someone explain why numberfag threads making fun of Mori pulling in 1k outside of collabs get deleted but threads about every other EN stay up?

>>87933074
lmao, Kiara and Mori working themselves into the grave for peanuts, then Gura just casually doing 3/4 as good with 1/10th the effort. You love to see it, based sharky. Kaela is an inhuman machine as always too, damn.

>>87937345
Doki is WELL under 3k most of the time these days, get with the times. She's barely above 2k.

>>87939167
killing yourself would be a good start, give it a try!

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>>87984289
>these days
>these streams happened literally today and yesterday

>>87933074
>we

>>87933074
She's hopeless

>>87933284
based

>>87937345
Doki and Pippa are 2k average retard, and the only Vshojos that do better are IM, Zen and Henya

>>87944883
If GG is getting Shiori numbers then ERB will probably be the first HoloEN 3view

>>87933074
Giving her a different personality and voice

>>87933074
Hololive hires for cunny rather than quality

>>87998256
>>87985730

>>87946127
Her "friend" is probably her Manager...

>>87933074
You can't, she's insufferable and a bad hire.

>>87933074
SHIT STINKY VELLA

>>87999014
>Retardo doesnt know what an average is

>>87933074
Fauna streams a lot less than Shiori and still has higher numbers

>>88000322
Ironic, considering pippa's would be brought down by the various 3view streams.

Noview Vella

>>87945275
If Cover keeps pouring money into her then it will increase really gradually, but it seems like a waste.

Shiori is good in clips but not full streams

>>87933074
She won't accept help, she said on Twitter she didn't need fixing so let her fail...

>>87933074
Why attack low-hanging fruit?

>>87945275
>She rakes in the most money only behind Fuwamoco in her gen
Your information is wildly outdated. Look at the last 3 months of Advent SC's and Shiori has been getting the least, 3rd being Nerissa, 2nd being Bibs.
Shiori's plushie is also in last place by a lot. 3rd being Nerissa and 2nd being Biboo.

>>88001096
Good because she isn't.

She just happens to be a normal girl in a job requires you to do lesbo baiting, because most fags who watch chuba know that they stand no chance, so they cope that their oshi will only be taken by another girl.

>>88003366
Holy checked

>>87933074
eh, she's harmless, let her do her thing. who cares.

>>87962564
I'm sure there's been many more after she's debuted as well

>>87933450
hasn't Kiara actually improved? I remember her being bellow everyone in Myth and everyone in Council except Bae. And now she is near the top.

>>87933074
She should just do what she did pre-holo and stream during EU hours.

>>87938806
examples?

>>88003341
lol

>>87933074
Fix her mic

>>87946127
Can't she get a better nepo-hire in? Bring in another OG....bring in YuikaiChan. You've seen her cosplay, right?

>lower than Gura
HOW?????

>>87933450
CC, Fauna, Biboo, and the dogs are doing well(if they count as EN still). Plus obviously Gura whenever she has merch to sell. So you've got a good strong person in each generation. The best thing is that there's not a ton of overlap in the heavy hitters of EN. So it is a decent sized box. Especially for the market.

>>87933074
wonder what she's really up to at the weekend...

>>88005637
FWMC are super inconsistent. They can get 15k for an event followed by 3-4k gaming. They just have that mascot role now where they are popular, but their normal streams kinda suck. 8 hours of super chat reading after events also lowers the average.

>>87933074
By killing OP

>>87970316
Shiori as a leader sucks at the role. That's fine though groups don't need one they are all their own agent of chaos.

>>87933074
Absolute Nijideath

>>88008139
why would you wish death on shiori

>>87971558
Post the full list of HoloEN

>>88005878
Their numbers come from a pretty good chunk of JP casual fans. They show up for JP bait games and some of the bigger events. If there's any overlap at all with someone semi-popular or doing something slightly more interesting that just gaming, they usually get shit numbers.

>>88005100
look at the shard again. try to understand what the number in the first column means and why the top entry isn't a 1. love kiara tho. she and mori at least try.

>>87933284
Reminder that this image is being posted by bvtm himself to make it look like he's gone when he's actually not.

Man, Hajime is so cute what is she doing down there?

>>87933074
Everyone is getting mogged by Hololive official and DEV_IS.

>>88010124
ENreco and 7DTD didn't help their case since they were pretty bad at them both.

>>88005637
Biboo is only "doing well" thanks to Ennacuck. CC is just middle of the pack among EN when it comes to viewership so if she is "doing well", half of HoloEN would be considered "doing well", too (Gura, Ina, Mumei, Fauna, IRyS, Bae Biboo, FWMC all got better or roughly equal viewerships than her)

>>88015835
Bots boost the average, but Biboo is still doing well on her own. In big collabs she is usually second to Fauna, and she plays mostly big games that can get her to that 10k more often than not.

>>88015835
The only reason she gets bottled in the first place is because she typically has the second highest ccv after Fauna and streams frequently

>>88020537
What did she mean by this?

>>88005100
Kiara is almost always botted 1k nowadays. She also didn't participate in GTA which lowered everyone's averages

>>87933074
What's the name of this site?

>>87933074
Natsumi Moe was one of the vtubers who got me into watching vtubers in general. She was a nice girl but to be completely honest she wasn't very entertaining to watch live. Her ASMR was S tier and her 3d model was unique at the time and I think that's what got her some popularity.
Shiori has the exact same issues. She has one of the best vtuber designs ever conceived but her personality just cannot make the best of it. Shiori looks like and probably is already considered a poser girl for the menhera goth girl stereotype despite not being like that at all. Give that model to any actual menhera girl and watch the ccv roll in. Double that if that menhera does asmr.

>>88026483(me)
*poster girl not poser lmao

>>87933074
She has to save herself by streaming more.

>>87933074
Someone has to be last. Shiori has a dedicated fanbase, she doesn’t have a problem. And I personally enjoy her in whatever collab she joins. Her personality is unique among the girls and she has a talent for creating funny situations without being a whore or using retarded tik tok zoomer speak.

And her RE4 playthrough is kino.

>>87946127
Now that sounds plausible

>>87933284
spbp

>>88035227
kill yourself bvtm

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it's all tiresome

>>87933074
it's over....

>>87933074
She has to save herself

Still won't watch her

>>88013456
Ugly 3D model and rigging, Hajime deserves better.

>>88045854
I have no interest in Shiori.

>>88002488
Waste of a good design...

She led me on. I thought she would do homo collabs and she tricked me. She only talks in their chat instead. Why would I watch if she's false advertising?

>>87933074
sad!

>we

>>88064119
Literally who?

>>88064631
One of the pioneers of vtubing who created Natsumi Moe, then scouted and hired Shiori to play her. Moe underperformed and she did not put in the effort and eventually petered out. Eilene went on to hire new talents and sold a company and proceeded to get scammed and slandered by a shady businessman who paid off drama tubers to spread lies about her including that she is actually a man (she is not, the picture confirms it). Last I heard of Eilene she posted a cryptic suicide video then disappeared.

>casual dox
This will end well

>>88064119
All I heard about Eilene was that she was such an incompetent manager she made Moe depressed and had a breakdown